How To Build Real World Skills With Your Dog

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You may know Fresh Patch from Shark Tank, Oprah, or the Today Show.
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This is the Fresh Patch Podcast, where good pets get it.
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Sit back, put your paws up, and enjoy the show.
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Welcome everybody to the Fresh Patch Podcast.
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I'm your host, Drew, with my amazing co-host, Mr.
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Gabe, on my right.
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And we have a very lovely guest today and a furry friend as well.
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So if you wouldn't mind introducing yourself to the viewers.
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Hi, I'm Nicole Ellis, and this is Rossi.
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Hey, Nicole Rossi.
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Rossi is so adorable.
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Oh my gosh.
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So well behaved.
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So well behaved.
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Look at that.
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Oh yeah.
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I love it.
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That's so cute.
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That's so great.
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Well, thanks for joining us on the Fresh Patch Podcast.
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We're really really excited to get to know you, hear about you, maybe a little bit of Rossi too.
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And yeah, just dive into some questions and yeah, just have a fun episode.
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So uh before we really get started, though, I want to let everyone know that is listening or watching.
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It is Tails with Nicole, Tail Like a Dog Tail, T-A-I-L-S with Nicole N-I-C-O-L-E.
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So give her a follow, engage, like, comment on her stuff as well, and let's get into it.
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Um, I'm gonna start us off with some questions and Perfect.
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We'll we'll get to it.
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So, for those of you who don't know you, tell us about yourself and the work you do.
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Um, absolutely.
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So I'm Nicole.
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I'm a celebrity dog trainer and pet lifestyle expert in Los Angeles, California.
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And I work with everyone from everyday dog pet parents to high-profile clients, the celebrities, music artists, etc.
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And my goal is really to help them better understand their dogs and build real life practical skills.
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So my focus is all positive reinforcement training.
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So making sure dogs can thrive, not just at home, but in our world and our lives.
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So whether that's going to be on set with us, hiking at a cafe, navigating daily life where our pets can be included in that.
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I also have a book on working dogs coffee table book called Working Like a Dog, and have a few others in progress at the moment.
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And then I also do online training videos and stuff like that on my blog and social media, just so everybody can get an opportunity to work with their dog.
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No matter where you live, my goal is let's do more with our pets.
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Amazing.
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Yeah, that's wow.
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You got your hands full.
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You're doing a lot.
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Oh man, author, trainer.
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Wow, that's awesome.
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That's really cool.
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And it kind of like fits into like what we do here at Fresh Patch, you know, like trying to help people um spend more time with their dogs and you know, give their dogs an opportunity to use the use the bathroom and when they when they leave the house.
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It's really hand in hand.
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Um, I also do train animals for movie production work.
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So Ross C here does photo shoots, commercials, nice, um, videos, and I have some other animals as well, but he's the one joining us right now.
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Nice, that's cool.
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We might have to hire uh one day.
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Uh we always need dog models around here and he has a pretend pee on cue, so he can actually pretend to pee.
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Nothing comes out, but perfect graph.
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Gosh, that's all we need.
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Yeah, seriously.
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He does love to pee outdoors.
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He actually wears like a little thing on his harness that says I love peeing outdoors.
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So the graph patch is never a problem.
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That's that's awesome.
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Amazing.
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Yeah, we're gonna need that.
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Uh might need it on a regular basis, but that's so great.
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I mean, even at the beginning, the little little wave.
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He's very well trained.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's a very good boy.
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That's awesome.
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Awesome, cool.
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So, how did you first get into dog training?
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Like, was this always the plan for you, or did life just kind of like take you there?
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So, no, not at all.
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Like a lot of people, I just love dogs.
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I love animals, and I always have as a kid.
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I was an only child, and the dogs were my family.
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So I wanted to rank by animals.
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And that curiosity is I was got my own dog.
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She's walking around somewhere now.
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She's 18.
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Um, I adopted her from a shelter and gone into training with her.
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And um, she became from like a scared shelter dog that wasn't sure of the world to a dog that ended up doing tons of production work.
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She did service dog work.
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We traveled the US together.
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And so that curiosity turned into learning, practicing, and then before I knew it, helping others.
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And it became a career.
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And I was like, oh my gosh, if I could have this much fun with my dog, imagine if I can help other people achieve this, also.
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And it was such a difference of like, oh, I have a dog and I take him for a walk and he's my pet dog, to like, this is my family member.
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And I can't wait to take her on vacation, and I can't wait to do these things that became really core memories for me.
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And other friends of mine were like, oh my god, I want to do that with my dog.
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And I was like, this is incredible.
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If we can help other people create that bond, which I mean, animals are amazing, and they also do so much for us mentally as well.
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So I think it's a really amazing partnership.
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Yeah, totally.
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Yeah, no, that's that's awesome.
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I mean, um, having a dog that's like, you know, well trained and everything is like so important.
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It can really like enhance the bond that you have with your animal.
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So it's uh absolutely and at that time I was like living by myself, and instead of sitting in my apartment by myself, I had this best friend.
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And I mean, I'm now married, and like my dogs are still very, very much involved in my life.
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And like, I think as a kid, my dogs had a different relationship with me, but they still were family members, and I think that's so important and really shaped me.
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And I mean, I wanted to hang out with my dogs more than anyone else, so here we are.
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Right?
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That's awesome.
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That's cool.
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Yeah, it's always great.
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I mean, I most people do consider their dog family, which is the correct approach, you know what I mean?
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They're not just the a toy or you know, just something, you know, just something that's gonna be there, like you know, they're they're loving, they're caring, we gotta give them the same support.
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Yeah, so you take care of them, and they take care of you, exactly.
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Yep, exactly.
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Cool.
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So I feel like you might have answered this a little bit in that, but what was your first experience working with the dog where you thought this is what I want to do?
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Um, so yeah, touching that briefly, I'd say it was seeing a real behavior change click.
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So when my dog Maggie went from like misunderstood, not confident, to a successful dog that was shooting national television commercials, and I was like, I grew up modeling and acting in Los Angeles, and I was like full circle moment for me.
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I'm on set, but I'm now behind the scenes.
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And I was like seeing that transformation was just so inspiring to me.
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And then as I helped others, I could see that not only in the dog, but the owners as well, because I think it really can show how powerful training can be and it affects everybody.
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And that's when I was like, this is what I want to do.
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I want to spend my days doing this and living my five-year-old dream out, which graduating college, I did not even like go to school for dog training at the time.
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And I was like, had this different career path, but thank God for adopting my shelter dog who kind of made things work out as they should be.
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But I think seeing that massive change and knowing I could potentially help others get that, like, and if we can do that with a shelter dog, imagine how many shelter dogs are just misunderstood or need help, and we can help them find their right place in a home is incredible.
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Yeah, definitely.
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That's that's amazing.
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I feel like you I'm looking down at my questions, you're just going right into our next question and stuff.
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But that is so perfect.
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But yeah, no, thanks for that.
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That's that's good to know.
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And so, yeah, that kind of like Drew said, kind of leads into our next question.
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But like, do you did you ever have any sort of formal training or are you mostly like self-taught from the beginning?
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So this is a great question, and I think it's not often the dog training industry is often misunderstood as well.
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So I started learning as much as I could, hands-on.
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Um, and then from there I pursued formal education and certifications to deepen my knowledge.
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My senior dog's like somewhere behind me, actually.
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Um, best appearance, maybe I guess.
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Oh no, she's like, well, like she's she's 18 now.
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So crazy.
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What kind of dog is it?
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Um, she's a shelter dog.
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Here she comes.
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Oh wow, there she is.
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She's like making a flight appearance.
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She's like, what's going on here?
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She's like, just here for the cookies.
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So um that combination, I think, of real world experience and then structured education really has helped me on how I train today.
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So I am certified through the certification CPDT, which is certification of professional dog trainers.
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I'm also trained through KPA, which is the Karen Pryor Association.
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I'm trained through Fear Free, I have fear-free certification, which if you don't know Fear Free, that's a whole different conversation.
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It's amazing for people to know about.
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But that's a lot of practical stuff.
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And then some of those organizations do a little bit of hands-on as well.
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So it's a mixture.
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But through that and just learning hands-on, I think it's a nice combination.
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Now there are dog trainers out there with no certifications.
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So I'm not gonna say you need one with certifications because I think somebody's work stands for them.
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Like if you are looking to learn agility and there's an agility pro out there, yeah, do they need to be a certified dog trainer?
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Probably not.
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Like their skills speak for themselves.
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Um, so but for me, I do have a combination of that, like formal education, certifications.
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And then what's great about those is that we have CEUs that we have to keep up.
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So we have to have continued education throughout the year.
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Yeah.
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So our education to keep those titles and all these fancy letters after my name that no one understands basically means that I have to keep learning, which is great because I am always learning and I want to always learn.
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I think I have a lot to learn still.
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Yeah.
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So I think that's kind of a fun thing about learning the certification stuff.
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Definitely, yeah.
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And it's so interesting too, because like I feel like dog training has changed so much over the last, let's say, 20 years.
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Like it's it's like a completely brand new thing.
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So um, yeah, it's it's really cool that you like, you know, that you're uh you're required to kind of like keep learning in order to like um continue using the certification.
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Yeah, which is awesome.
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I think that's great.
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And I mean, studies are always changing, I'm always learning.
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I think we all should be.
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And if there's a day where we don't want to learn anymore, maybe we shouldn't we should be done.
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We're checked out at that point.
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So I love learning more.
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I love learning from other people in my field, and I think how lucky to be surrounded by people that love animals.
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Totally.
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Definitely, definitely.
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And then I wanted to go back on what you said actually.
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Here she goes.
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There she goes.
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Yeah, she's 18.
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Oh, uses her fresh patch more than any other dog in our household, probably.
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That's right.
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You hear that, viewers?
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Get yourself a fresh patch.
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You got an 18-year-old dog, fresh patch.com.
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We got you covered.
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Oh, yeah.
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Sweet.
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I I wanted to go back to what you said, and we were we're familiar with those two, um, Karen Pryor and then the other one.
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But the what was the third one you said?
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So the third one's called Fear Free, and it was started by Marty Becker, and they're saying is they're taking the pet out of petrified.
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And so there's fear-free trainers, there's fear-free groomers, there's fear-free veterinarians.
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And I go to myself to a fear-free veterinarian, and I think it's changing the way we care for our animals.
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And so a lot of it is not forcing our animals really, they're like teaching them to get used to things, consent to things.
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Like my dog, I can do injections and he stays still and he knows he's getting an injection.
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I don't have to pin him down.
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We're not causing fear.
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And when an animal is stressed, it affects their blood work, it affects so many things that can affect their overall health, especially when we're trying to diagnose something.
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So, for example, a fear-free vet usually has treats.
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They have toys because play should be initiated in these situations.
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It shouldn't just be a scary thing.
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Um, my veterinarian doesn't even have um exam tables.
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All our exams are done on the floor.
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So dogs often don't like being at pie.
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It's scary.
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Well, how often are they ever put on a table besides at the vet?
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So um, shout out to my vet, Dr.
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Dewey at Treehouse.
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But like she comes in room and she sits on the floor and it's fun.
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My dog's running around playing with toys and treats, and it's a better experience for everyone.
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It's less stressful on the people working in that profession, which is already a very stressful profession.
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Yeah.
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Um and if they do have exam tables, I know there's another one in Sherman Oaks, they have yoga mats on there.
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So the dog's not slipping, they're not creating enough scary sounds.
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There's no fluorescent lights, so they don't have that buzzing sound.
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Often you get a bandana with pheromones on it, or there's pheromones in the room, which can help calm and relax animals.
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So there's certifications for trainers, for veterinarians, and for groomers.
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And sometimes these visits are often longer.
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We spend a lot of time setting our pets up for success.
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But I love that we can make the overall experience, maybe a little bit more work in the beginning, better overall for them.
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And I think that's huge.
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Like at our event, when our dogs get vaccinations, they're leaking a leaky mat of peanut butter.
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Like awesome.
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They have that positive association.
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And that's positive world, is what I try to do in all my dog training.
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So I love learning about it and seeing how we can do things.
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So, like, I my dog has things like a chin rest where I can like do behaviors like checking his hair, his eyes, his ears without moving, and we can do things without restraint and less bites, less stressed out animals.
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Yeah, I think it's a win-win for everybody.
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So if you don't know it, go on fear free, and you can look it up either by facility or just by people, and you can find some people, some dog, some veterinarians like register themselves and not their facility.
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So I say to look for both.
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But and same with dog trainers, I think there's just it's a wealth of people out there.
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So it's great.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Wow.
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Thank you for that insight.
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Yeah, I've never heard of that, or I feel like I've maybe vaguely, but um, you know, fear-free just in general.
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That is a very good approach.
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Yeah, especially on the veterinarian side, like everything you just explained is it makes so much sense, you know.
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So yeah, uh, but we've yeah, it's like it's finally changing.
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We've done vet practices the same way for so many years, and how incredible that we're now uh changing that and we can do better.
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Exactly.
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Most definitely.
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Yeah, what were you gonna say?
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Yeah, I was just gonna say, like, it's it's uh such a bummer, you know, to see how taking the dog to the vet or doing like some of these things that you have to do can cause them such stress.
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So the fact that we're um there's this fear-free thing that's like helping mitigate that kind of stuff, like is is a really, really cool thing.
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Yeah, so cool.
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Yeah, so any viewers, listeners, if you're listening and you have those issues, you know, and you've been looking for a solution, there are options.
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There are options.
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So thank you, thank you for that.
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That's that's really cool.
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Learning something new every day.
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That's what we get on these podcasts.
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We're always learning something new.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:07.279
So what was the moment your career really started to take off with all of this?
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Um it's a funny question because I'm I wouldn't say there's an exact moment.
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Um obviously, once I dog started working with TV and film, like that helped do more TV and film stuff.
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They had the experience.
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We had met friends, we met people to refer us.
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Um, once I started combining training with media and education online, that obviously opens the door to larger audiences, more opportunities there.
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And then I think a lot of it's just like word of mouth, and that kind of helps grow everybody.
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And we're in Los Angeles and we all kind of sort of know each other.
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Yeah.
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So um, I wouldn't say there's one exact moment, and I think I I'm not in one straight line in my career.
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I've like kind of dabble in five different things, and I think each of those has different turning points.
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Um, for example, I did an Amazon TV show called The Pack, where we trained animals to do all sorts dogs, not animals, but dogs to do all sorts of fun, crazy adventures with their own nurse.
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And I'd say that opened up different opportunities, but different opportunities than I'm getting with my day-to-day clients, for example.
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Gotcha.
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Awesome, awesome, cool.
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Yeah, that's really interesting.
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So, how how did you go from like training dogs to working more with like high profile clients and becoming like a well-known trainer?
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Um, so I'd say a lot of it came down to results.
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We like what we see with our dogs, their training, and relationships.
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When you help one person and their dog succeed, it really can be life-changing and they tell others.
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And over time that builds trust.
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And in Los Angeles, especially, word travels fast and people know each other.
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And just like we might ask someone what their favorite restaurant is, we trust our friends' opinions.
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And so when someone sees their dog is well trained and they can go to a cafe now with their dog and their dogs, not lunging at other dogs, they're like, okay, I think I could use that help too.
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Who did you use?
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Because I want similar results, or I want XYZ.
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Could they help with this?
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So I think just having that circle of people is amazing.
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And I'm think dealing with and working with families that are in that high-caliber acting, um, singers, etc., is a bit different in dog training.
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We are training them to work with a household that has a very large staff, usually.
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We're teaching dogs to get potty trained in a very, very large house.
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So it's different than someone with me who has a normal size house, for example, or in an apartment building.
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So there are a little bit differences and nuances.
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And once we I think I kind of carved a niche in that, in that I understand that world.
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I understand from working with them now.
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Like, how can we make this work?
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How can we help the Chihuahua find his way to actually use the restroom in this like mega mansion?
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And there's definitely ways, and I think everybody has their little niche.
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There's things that is not my specialty, and I don't take those on.
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And I'll laugh, happily refer those out to people that do excel at that.
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So I think that's been a big help is the understanding and having results.
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And then people people gratefully are very happy.
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So yeah, it seems to be.
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That's really cool.
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I mean, I feel like anything in life, connections is is so are so important, you know.
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Um you never know.
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And it's like not always even like the celebrity or the artists themselves, but it could be like the house manager or the chef that refers that, or somebody needs a dog rumor.
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I know a dog rumor I can refer that caters to that clientele and knows how to communicate and work with those schedules and that house staff.
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So you can make your own community, and I think that's really special, especially in a big city like LA, where it's kind of actually hard to make friends and meet people.
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So finding people you trust is really important.
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What a like a unique kind of like snapshot into like how you know high profile people like have pets and like have specific needs.
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Like you doesn't, these are things that like you know, at least I had never really thought about before, but it's really and like a big part of my training is setting up the dog to succeed in that family.
00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:11.519
So, for example, I have horses, my dogs need to get used to horses.
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The average person's dog does not need to get used to horses.
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So how can we set those dogs up for success?
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So, for example, like some of my puppies, I'll bring them to my friend Sarah, who's a dog photographer in Los Angeles, she's amazing, and we'll do a photo shoot and I'll get them used to flashes, I'll get them used to lights because most likely they're gonna be on a set, they're gonna be on a set with flashes, and while the dog's probably not gonna be the one taking getting the photos taken, it's gonna be their pet parent.
00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:46.559
It's a nice way to get that early desensitization to these experiences, and that's kind of like how can I set them up for this life that they're gonna lead?
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Totally.
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Yeah, that's awesome.
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That's so cool.
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Yeah, and what you said about like the mansions too.
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Like, I've never even thought of it like a tiny chihuahua in a giant house.
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Like, what that dog gonna do?
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Like, could have a fight.
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And then they come to my house and they're like, Where's the other wing?
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Yeah, right, exactly.
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There's no other wing.
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I'm sorry.
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Oh, that's funny.
00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:07.680
That's so good.
00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:08.640
Cool.
00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:16.319
Um, was there a specific opportunity or dog that changed everything for you uh when it comes to all your training and endeavors?
00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:16.799
Yeah.
00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:20.480
Um, I'd say there's different dogs that have changed different things for me.
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Obviously, my childhood dogs kind of got me obsessed and like loving animals.
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Maggie that you met, she and I did therapy work for a long time.
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I traveled across the US basically volunteering, and we volunteered in Vanderbilt in Nashville.
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I flew to Vegas to volunteer with her.
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And I'd say that really opened my eyes to the difference dogs can make for people outside their home.
00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:47.519
Um, and what a difference and like touching of people and showing what's possible.
00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:54.880
And then obviously training my own dogs has shown me what's possible, and training is done thoughtfully and consistency, consistently, sorry.
00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:57.440
And like when you're consistent, it makes a big difference.
00:20:57.519 --> 00:20:59.680
And everybody's like, you must train your dog for hours a day.
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And I'm like, no, I do like five minutes, like three times a week, but I'm consistent throughout the day.
00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:07.920
Yeah, my dogs eat like they know where to sit down and eat, they can't jump on me.
00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:10.799
Like, and that consistency, that's not my training time.
00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:11.519
Thank you.
00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:15.359
It's like someone's getting bored.
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Like, when do I get a cookie?
00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:25.759
So um, I think it's been various dogs that opened my eyes to various things and then seeing various things.
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Like when I was shooting my book, Working Like a Dog, I got the experience to work with police dogs, shit dogs, cancer detecting dogs, like bed bug detection dogs.
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So we photographed this wide range of dogs.
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It's just photos of these dogs, but it's showing you that like not every working dog is a Labrador, and seeing their powerful noses, and really like I got to see blood donor dogs that you see, Davis, that are donating blood.
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That's things we don't even think about.
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And I think seeing those dogs opened my eyes up even more to like how big this pet industry is and what a difference.
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Dogs can make just besides being a family pet, like actually doing cool, incredible things out there.
00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:08.240
Not that you're not doing cool things, Rossi.
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Yeah, that's so cool.
00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:12.559
Yeah, consistency is key, of course.
00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:17.440
You know, I we hear that from a lot of other trainers and just you know, pet parents in general.
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They're like, How did you train someone?
00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:21.519
Like, how'd you train your dog so well?
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And you must have taken hours.
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It's like, no, I just keep keep a program pretty much.
00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:28.319
Yeah, consistency, and you're gonna be able to do that.
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Consistency, and like I think a big part of my training is too is I'll do a lot of training outside the home too.
00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:35.279
So, like I asked for sit everywhere.
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Like, you should be able to sit in a supermarket.
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I don't take a supermarket, but like, you know, anywhere you go, you should be able to do it.
00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:49.119
Um, a fun story is my lost my phone in a hike in Joshua Tree's is totally off topic.
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Um, this is like god, like 10 years ago.
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And my Maggie, who's a service dog at the time, she was sent trained to my odor.
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And we I couldn't find my phone, lost it on a hike, good times.
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I went back the next day and I asked her to find my odor, and we just walked and walked in a mile in, she found my phone for me based on my odor.
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And I never trained it for a real life scenario, I trained it to do AKC competitions, which to be honest, we weren't very good at.
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So but she proved herself there.
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But she proved herself there, and it was kind of this real world scenario where I was like, this was never expected how I meant to use this, but like we've practiced it all over the place.
00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:32.400
So yeah, here we are actually executing it in a way I never imagined.
00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:33.279
That's so cool.
00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:36.640
I mean, it's almost cooler than just doing the the events like that, right?
00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:38.559
Yeah, we didn't need any ribbons after that.
00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:39.119
Yeah, right.
00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:45.119
It's like well, I know that I am constantly losing stuff, so maybe I should like uh have you train my dog for that.
00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:46.480
That'd probably be a huge help for me.
00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:47.200
Very helpful.
00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.400
You don't have to get too into it, but like oh that just is so fascinating.
00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:52.480
Before we go to the next question, it's fascinating.
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Like odor, like, how do you you just give them kind of everything of yours to sniff all the time?
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I gotta get to get how that'll work, you know what I mean?
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.359
Like, here's my here's my phone, here's my purse.
00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:03.920
I don't know, yeah.
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:16.400
Yeah, um, so he she was trained on like birch, annie, some clove first, and then I trained her on like handler odor, which is my odor, which was like basically a sock or some small item, a cotton ball, even that smelled like me.
00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:21.759
And then I would take her through our like sense exercises of like sniffing random boxes.
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:25.519
And when she sniffed that one, I like clicked, remarked, rewarded it.
00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.400
Yeah, and she learned when I find this, good things happen.
00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:38.400
I get delicious treats, and from there we expanded it, expanded it, and then I was able to narrow it down to like smaller amounts of smell, and their noses are so powerful, it puts us to shame.
00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:42.319
So yeah, no, it definitely puts us to shame.
00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:43.920
That is fascinating.
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:53.680
Um, so um, kind of a funny random thing that happened, but um, we heard that you actually ran into our founders at the Global Pet Expo um recently.
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:55.200
So uh run us through that.
00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:56.640
How did how did that happen?
00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:01.039
Um, yeah, kind of random, funny story, but this is like the small world stuff.
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:01.359
Yeah.
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:10.319
Um, so I was at Global Pet Expo, for those of you that don't know, it is a marketplace basically, or it's a conference trade show of everything in the pet product world.
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:16.480
So it's where our pet co, our Chewy's, or even our small boutique stores are shopping for what they're gonna sell in their store.
00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:23.519
And it's everything from the lighting and fish tanks basically to the toys your cat's gonna play with and dog food galore.
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:28.960
And so there's a Florida one, and there's a one in Vegas for West Coast called Superzoo.
00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:37.279
And I was there with my friend's company, um Blue Nine Pet Products that makes a dog training platform I love, my favorite harness, amazing company.
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.680
And I was joking with them that like when I go to Super Zoo, I bring a grass patch.
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.039
And um he was like, Oh, who is it?
00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:46.640
And I was like, Oh, it's Fresh Patch.
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:47.920
And he's like, Oh, I know those people.
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And I was like, Oh, funny, small world.
00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:50.720
We're out in Florida.
00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:51.039
Okay.
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:55.200
So then, like, two days later, we're at this conference, and these two people stopped.
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:56.640
I was just happened to be at their booth.
00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:59.519
I wasn't there the whole conference, just happened to stop by.
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And these two people stopped by and they asked to see the owner.
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:05.519
And they're like, Oh, he's not here, he'll be back soon.
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:11.519
And then I saw, like, I think I saw their badge or something, and I was like, Hold on, are you the two from Fresh Patch?
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:14.559
And they're like, Yeah, and I was like, I have all these photos in my grass patch.
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:16.079
That's great.
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:18.880
But I was, I'm sure, absolutely crazy.
00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:22.880
So then owner Dave came back, and all of a sudden he's like, Oh, you guys met.
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:25.759
And I was like, Oh my god, I'm telling them how much I love their grass patch.
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:35.440
Random conversation, but I was very excited because it is something I've used for a very long time, and I was like, I want to hear all about it and how you guys started.
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:51.039
And I thought they were from Los Angeles, they were not, so then I learned all about that, and they were absolutely lovely, and I had such a great time connecting with them, but it was so random because we were just at the right place meeting the right people at the right time.
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:52.319
Yeah, that's crazy.
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:53.920
So, and such a big event, too.
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:55.839
Like, yeah, such a oh, it's huge.
00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:00.480
Oh my gosh, that's uh I think Super Zoo's even bigger, but it's so much walking.
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:06.720
He was like, I have to bring him a stroller because he's like passed out by day two, like sniffing and playing with everybody's toys.
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.680
Yeah, that's yeah, I've heard Super Zoo is a lot bigger.
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.640
We're trying to trying to get involved there this year, too.
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:15.119
So I don't know if you're if you're gonna be there as well this year.
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:16.000
We'll be there.
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:17.359
We'll see you there, hopefully.
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:18.079
But I'd love it.
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:20.480
Right behind me here is the the Shark Tank pictures.
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:24.799
I don't know if he checked all about that and stuff, but yeah, that's so cool that you met them.
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:28.640
Like, you know, he just filmed for Shark Tank for um Swift Paws.
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:32.000
That's a fast hat system where they chase a loom around.
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:32.240
Yeah.
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.480
Oh, is that the the um yeah on the rope, right?
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:37.839
The one that kind of goes in a square.
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:38.559
Yeah, you got it.
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:39.440
Yeah, that one's cool.
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:39.920
That one's cool.
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:40.799
Shark Tank family.
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.759
I mean, I'm not like involved at all with that, but he just loves the toy.
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:44.480
Yeah.
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:45.839
I love it.
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:46.400
I love it.
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:46.799
Cool.
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:47.759
Well that's awesome.
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.000
Yeah, so glad you got to meet them and stuff.
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:55.359
And I know we're have other conversations outside of the filming, but um we'll get to that later.
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:56.319
So fun.
00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.839
Um, so it goes right into our next question.
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:00.559
Lovely.
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.200
We know you're a longtime customer of Fresh Patch.
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.960
Tell us the benefits it's been for you as a dog mom and a trader.
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:12.880
Um, so I was super excited to do this because it's like actually not a product I've used for like a day.
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:18.640
It's something I've used for actually years, and it's been a game changer in so many situations.
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.599
I probably use it in more situations than the average person.
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:27.039
Um, so we used to have a house in Altadena, and from there we had decomposed granite.
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We didn't have grass.
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:35.039
So that's when I first started ordering it, is I had puppies over and I was like, I need to teach these dogs to go on grass because I don't have a grassyard.
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:41.200
So I ordered a fresh patch for that because the houses I go to, it's real grass and there are yards, it's not astroturf.
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:46.640
And I was like, perfect, easy to toss it out when it's dead and gone and not clean anymore.
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.000
And I love that.
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.720
So I started getting it for puppies, and then my own dogs started using it, and they're like, This is awesome.
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:54.160
I was like, okay.
00:28:54.480 --> 00:29:01.519
So I kept getting it because my dogs seem to like to go on it, and I was like, Great, less dog urine smell in my yard.
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:02.240
Love it.
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:02.960
Classic.
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:05.759
Um, and then we moved after the wildfire.
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:06.720
So thank you so much.
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:10.240
That was amazing.
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:15.759
Um, and we're at a rental house, and like a weekend the dogs are killing the yard and the grass.
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.319
And of course, I'm like, we don't own this house.
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:19.519
Like, this is awful.
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:25.680
So got a grass patch and I put it straight outside the door, and it's great because this one doesn't like to go in the rain.
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:27.839
So when it's raining, he can go right there and pee.
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:29.839
He's not walking through the grass.
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:31.440
We're not killing our grass now.
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:31.759
Yep.
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:33.839
Um, all the clients' dogs love it.
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:36.559
And for my senior dog, she doesn't have to walk far.
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:44.640
Um, and then I'd say when traveling, I bring it to hotels, which I think I thought at first was a little bit crazy, but after I did it, I was like, oh, this is a game changer.
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:44.960
Yep.
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.000
So um it's done multiple Vegas trips for me.
00:29:48.640 --> 00:30:01.200
Um, it's done other road trips with me, and I'd say Vegas is the biggest one I really bring it to because those are massive hotels, and it's not easy to like rush your dog downstairs, which I did do for many years, and then instead I just got this.
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:05.440
And so if I don't have a balcony, I literally just put it in the shower or like in the bathroom.
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:05.839
Oh, yeah.
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:09.759
And in the morning, he goes right there in peace, and it's great.
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.720
I still take him for a walk, he's very, very well taken care of.
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:14.960
But like it is so nice.
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:19.839
And if someone has too many treats at Super Zoo and has an upset stomach, I'm like, grass patch is right here.
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:20.400
Yep.
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:26.079
I also think it's extremely useful for like apartment living, extreme weather days.
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.240
I'm in California, so we do not get snow here.
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:34.640
But like I've seen everybody's photos on the East Coast, and I'm always like, just get grass patch, like solve the problem right now.
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:35.920
Exactly, yeah, 100%.
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:36.960
And the opposite, too.
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:43.839
Like you're saying in Vegas in the summer, oh yeah, 100 110 plus out there, you know, you're not taking your dogs out on on the pavement and stuff.
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:44.240
Yeah.
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.880
You know, mid-afternoon, you're you got the patch right for yourself, you know, right in the in the bathroom.
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:50.720
And it's easy to travel with.
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:51.200
Yeah.
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:58.079
So and I think from a training standpoint, it gives dogs a clear, consistent place to go, which that makes everything easier.
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:01.680
And it's easy to transition from that to a yard or anywhere else.
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:03.359
That's like no training on my part.
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.200
I was like, put outside, and the dogs went pee on it.
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:08.400
It's like, yeah, awesome, easy peasy for the average pet owner as well.
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.039
It's like, might have to sit there and like work on this forever.
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:12.640
Like they want to go on it.
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:19.519
Um, a funny story is one year I brought one that wasn't grass, it was like wood chips or something, and I was like kind of excited to give this a try.
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.960
And I put it in the bathroom and my dogs went to sleep on it, they wouldn't be on it.
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:25.759
There you go.
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:27.440
I learned my lessons.
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.759
So they were like, We we've never this is nice and coffee.
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.839
I was like, okay, we're not gonna use that anymore.
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:42.400
Yeah, um, but yeah, I think it's such a game changer, and especially for apartment living, especially puppies, puppies need to go pee a lot.
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:48.880
So I have a few clients that use it directly on their patios now, and it's like, or dogs that excited pee when someone comes over.
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.799
I'm like, we can go right out there immediately and pee out there.
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:56.000
So I think it's not a one use case scenario.
00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:02.640
So, especially in my case, I've used it for so many different reasons and game changer, and I just shows up at my house.
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:03.759
So nice.
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.559
But I've had so many people are like, You have a yard, why do you have this?
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:10.240
And I'm like, well, my yard's not dying now, it's not my yard.
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:11.359
Yeah, exactly.
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:14.240
Yeah, we're not ruining the actual grass, you know.
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.880
Dog's still happy, knows where to go, like it's perfect.
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:27.119
It's easy, and like I get like the medium size, I think, but even like I have big dogs that will stand outside of it and pee and make it on that, and like I've had it's perfect, yeah.
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:28.640
They can't, yeah.
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:29.599
They know how to aim, you know.
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:31.440
The good ones know how to aim, you know, right?
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:32.720
They that's so cool.
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:38.799
I love all the scenarios you have experienced it with, you know, not just recommending that it could be good for these scenarios.
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:44.000
Oh no, it's like I'm going many years solid of like consistent every two weeks.
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:45.119
I think I get one now.
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.680
So that's a staple in our house.
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:52.559
And that that's a huge one we've been trying to, you know, because everyone's all like, oh, I don't have a puppy or not, have a balcony.
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.279
And it's like it's okay, like there's so many different scenarios.
00:32:55.440 --> 00:33:01.759
You travel, get it in the car, pit stops in the hotel, wherever you need it, you know, rain, whatever it is.
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:06.880
So um yeah, when I do the traveling, I don't do the one that gets shipped on my like routine schedule.
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:13.920
Kind of I leave for the house, and then the one that traveling, I order it to arrive like two days before I leave, just in case it's late or something.
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:18.480
And then I just keep the lid on it, off we go, and like get there and open up, and it's perfect.
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:23.039
And it's just funny checking into the hotel, and I have like this big thing of grass on my suitcase.
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:24.559
I know anything.
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:32.559
We're working to get some more hotel sponsorships, you know, to partner with us and uh the first time I was like, you know, what is room service gonna think of this?
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.000
Like, this is just so crazy.
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:39.359
And then I got back and they like left me some dog poop bags, and I was like, Oh, they didn't think it was that crazy.
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:41.039
So nice, that's so cool.
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:42.160
Yeah, yeah.
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:52.480
Maybe like you were saying, like Vegas hotels, because it is like by the time you get outside of those hotels, it's like a normal walk, like with your dogs, and like half the year, it's like a million degrees, let's be honest.
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:53.680
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.160
Seems like there would be some alignment there, yeah, definitely.
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:58.799
And how did you first originally hear about Fresh Patch?
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.039
Did you just was it just like a Google search or did it?
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:02.079
I honestly don't know.
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:02.960
It's been so many years.
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:04.079
Yeah, yeah.
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:08.320
I know you guys are all over LA, like at Pet Events now and all sorts of stuff.
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:11.119
So, like if it was nowadays, I could have like easily given you an answer.
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:12.960
I feel like I must have just Googled it.
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:17.519
Yeah, and in the past, I before that I used the fake Ashoturf one.
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:21.840
Yeah, but then it's like you have to host it off, and it was like it was nasty, but so gross.
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:22.960
Oh, yeah, and so gross.
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.960
That's not a best case scenario for a lot of the dogs I'm working with.
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.559
Like, yeah, I don't have grass, I need grass to go on, so let's figure this out.
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:32.800
Like my dogs, if they didn't go on grass, it wouldn't be fine.
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.079
But then they were like, Oh, this is great.
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.800
I was like, Okay, I guess I'm gonna keep a trigger for this, and here we are, years later.
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:39.920
Yeah, exactly.
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:44.480
And like what you said before, too, like you tried the wood chips and stuff, and we know who that is.
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:45.840
Great idea, yeah.
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:47.280
Like, no hate at all.
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:48.800
Yeah, it just wouldn't go off.
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.360
Yeah, it's just they'd rather lay on it and sleep on it.
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:53.039
But real grass, they're gonna potty.
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:54.639
Oh by the real grass, right?
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:55.679
Come on, it's amazing.
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:58.559
And it's so easy, so um I love it.
00:34:58.800 --> 00:34:59.119
Awesome.
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:01.199
That is oh, there you go.
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:02.400
He approves two.
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:03.119
He approves two.
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:05.519
He approves, you approve, yeah.
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:06.079
Thank you.
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:09.119
Big dog is yeah.
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:10.400
Sweet.
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:12.800
Well, those are all our questions for you today.
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:13.679
Amazing.
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:15.039
It's super fun, you guys.
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:20.079
Yeah, you are so knowledgeable and really, like I said, we always learn something new on these podcasts.
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:26.800
Definitely learn something new today that hopefully the viewers, you learn something new as well to take into your lives and stuff.
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.440
But thank you so much for taking the time.
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.639
And hopefully inspire some more people to do a little bit more with their dogs, right?
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:32.960
Absolutely.
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:35.039
Awesome.
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:45.360
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Like, hit her up if you need some training, if you have any more questions, and um, I'm sure she'll be happy to help.
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:05.360
And yeah, well, thank you again, Nicole.
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Thank you guys so much.
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Yeah, and everybody else, we will see you on the next episode of the Fresh Patch Podcast.
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