TRUTHS & STEREOTYPES

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Welcome to Sunset Conversations, a BullfrogEntertainment
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Mark Florkowski. On the 15th and 30th of each
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info at BullfrogEntertainment .com Hey, Mark.
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Before we start this episode, I do believe this
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is our fifth episode. Yay! How about it, huh?
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And I think we should thank all of our listeners
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that have stuck with us through the first four.
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I hope that they've seen some improvement in
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our abilities and have enjoyed listening. I really
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appreciate their love. And absolutely. And we
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want to welcome any new listeners to again, this
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being our fifth episode of Sunset Conversations.
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Welcome, welcome. And let's get started. Yes,
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let's. Mustard? Really? Mustard? I ordered pancakes
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and you bring me mustard? 20 plus days in the
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hospital. And the only meal I ate from the hospital
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kitchen was breakfast. And yes, I did get packs
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of mustard as opposed to pancake syrup. I believe
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that. With my pancakes. I believe it. And if
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it was a clear pack, it probably looked brown,
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like maple syrup. It was hard to believe, but
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it was just a culmination of the 22 days of breakfast.
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Guess what? I don't think I got more than, I
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don't know, a few orders even correct. And it
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was simple breakfast. For example, I had to reduce
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it down. Every day I had a hard -boiled egg.
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Those were safe. Scrambled egg? No, no way. It
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was impossible. Absolutely impossible to eat.
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So scrambled eggs lived up to their name. So
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they were fried egg? No, that's not even close
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to edible. Toast sometimes was never toasted.
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Cereal that I ordered was not even the same cereal.
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Fruit was crunchy crunchy for crunchy fruit.
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I mean, it's just watermelon that looked like
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it been sitting out from the day before Bananas
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that even the nurses said I wouldn't eat that
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You should return that and get another one I
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go what we're gonna get medical advice That was
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medical advice coffee that you know, and I can
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drink some pretty bad coffee. This was some pretty
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bad coffee Top it off. I would order turkey sausage
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sometimes with my hard -boiled egg Which again
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I quit doing that because the turkey sausage
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was exactly like an air hockey disc Why can't
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I as hard as an air hockey? Why can't I imagine
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that? I got a picture in my mind's eye a hard
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talk turkey sausage this and this was very unbelievable
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yet expected because Hospital food is stereotypically
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and in some truths Not very good The bright side
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which I always got to look at the bright side
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at everything is I became a door -dasher for
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lunches and dinners a door -dasher for the first
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time ever and it was in a really nice neighborhood
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with this hospital and so I had some phenomenal
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food and my wife would go down every day at the
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Entrance of the hospital and meet the door -dasher
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and bring up food that the nurses were always,
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what did you get today? Oh my gosh, look at this.
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I can't believe you're eating this. I can't believe
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you're eating that. So that was the bonus part.
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And yet, interesting enough, the menu for the
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hospital showed a picture of a chef on the front
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of it and promoted the food as something being
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like special, like even gourmet. And I would
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joke and go. who is this chef has he eaten any
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of the things that are in this menu because this
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is nowhere near gourmet so anyhow welcome again
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to this latest episode of sunset conversations
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this should be a very lively conversation because
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everyone should have an opinion on this topic
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absolutely i mean stereotypes are again there's
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truths to them but you you know we'll get into
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it So for example, all hospital food is inedible.
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We learned it isn't. Thank goodness it isn't.
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You guys got to find the right hospital. All
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southerners are rednecks and is only known for
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southern hospitality. Again, stereotypical. Jewish
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people never eat pork. Interesting. Pig roasts
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have been a huge thing in my family. And so I
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wonder about that one as well. For example, New
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Yorkers are all rude. Not really. They actually
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do love to help the tourists that are in the
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city. Can you meet a rude New Yorker? You can
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meet a rude anybody, no matter where you're at.
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I agree with your observation that they do love
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tourists. Yeah, they do. I mean, that's because
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that's their biggest economic benefit there.
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I mean, they all love entertaining us. They absolutely
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do. I mean, here's a good one. Asian Americans
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are all naturally. That's the big word, naturally
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smart. Well, come on. Those who are high performers
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and put in the time and the effort that's required.
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Yes, yes. High performers. So these are just
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a few of the stereotypes that many believe to
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be absolutely true. And there, I believe, lies
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the problem. What are your beliefs, I wonder,
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to our listeners? Are you true believers that
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stereotypes are 100 % true? Or are you able to
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believe that stereotypes have truth to them,
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but it is not the sole and only fact of groups
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of people or actions or any of this. Are they
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based on truths? Are they based on stereotypes?
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Today, Mark and I will explore some of these
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and other stereotypes and truths. And by the
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way, no, Alaska is not only a wintery wilderness.
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Wow. Do you want to define winter in the Caribbean?
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Yes. I'll take that Caribbean winter over Chicago's
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anytime. Ring the bell. Ding ding. Ding ding.
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All right. So as we mentioned in the introduction,
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hospital food is one of the stereotypes. and
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let's take a look at some of the things that
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it's known for. Not the good things. Then I will,
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of course, bring up some of the actually pretty
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good things about it. Some hospital food. Well,
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for some of our people who might not believe
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what a stereotype is, why don't we give them
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our definition of stereotype? I don't have one.
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It's almost like a myth. Well, people believe
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it, but it's not really. a fact or a truth. That's
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why we're comparing stereotypes to truths. Right,
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but stereotypes have truths in them. Of course.
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So we're pulling the truths and we're separating
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the truths and the stereotypes. Some of the truths
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which again make the stereotype. So for example,
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hospital food has a blandness to it, which is
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very true in hospitals. So I've heard. sometimes
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as exciting as you might say strained peas, which
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I've had like strained peas and they're definitely
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not exciting. You're really making me feel good
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that somehow I've had a blessed life here. I
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haven't had strained peas yet. Let me tell you,
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sometimes it's mystery food. You don't even know
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what it is. Now you have my attention because
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I've heard of mystery food. I kind of look at
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it I grew up with TV dinners, which definitely
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is not a gourmet food, but it was pretty tasty
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growing up with TV dinners. Lots of salt, lots
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of MSG. I see hospital food also as being really
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bad TV dinners. Okay, now I am very interested
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in the context of bad TV dinners. That takes
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us to the lowest of... of levels. Yeah, we don't
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want to go lower than that, please. And part
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of the reasoning behind some of this in the initial
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stages of hospital food is because you have clientele
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that might not be able to eat lots of salts or
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different seasonings, and so the blandness and
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that they're looking at as a health issue. It's
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so funny you're referring to patients as clientele.
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They also though ironically give you unhealthy
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options. Now, that's exactly what I want to hear
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us talk about. Sugary snacks. How a hospital
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could be in the business of trying to heal people,
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but they're feeding them shitty food. Very unhealthy
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type foods. They have ice creams, the ones in
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the little paper cardboard cup. Right. They don't
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even give you good ice cream. Fried items, sugary
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snacks. You can always get jello. Have you ever
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seen fried chicken on the menu? Fried chicken
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at a hospital? I think I did see fried chicken.
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Oh my goodness. All right. Yeah, I think I have
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had some form of a fried chicken. Oh, they do
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have the baked chicken. But again, it's not cooked
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properly. It's just it's like cardboard. They
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have a very cardboard type attitude. Aren't they
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just trying to get you out of the hospital? Maybe.
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Which which really seems, you know, weird to
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me because. They get paid more money if they
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keep you in the hospital. Yeah, today it's three
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and out usually. OK. It's an interesting thing.
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I don't know if it's still totally true everywhere,
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but contrary to probably a lot of popular beliefs,
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hospitals are not required to meet the national
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nutritional standards for inpatient meals. I
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didn't know that. And so they're right on right
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there is is a way of making it very easy to make
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a very non -nutritional meal for the patients.
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Again, there's, you know - Well, they're in the
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business of healing, not feeding. You know, so
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it's, yeah, I mean, it's, you know, there's,
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you know, and again, they have the ice cream
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in a cardboard cup. They're not gonna give you
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fine, you know, ice cream necessarily. But there's
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also today a culinary revolution. Okay, but if
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I could just for a moment throw in a plug for
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a Disneyland like hospital scenario where they
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just Try to make everything delightful And your
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way to recovery The Disney magic hospital well,
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there are several hospitals in the United States
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This one is rather hard to pronounce, but I'll
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bring it up. Give it a shot, Mark. It's Faquire
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Hospital. Faquire, huh? Just remember, it's in
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Warrenton, Virginia. OK. And they have what's
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called the Bistro on the Hill. And it's pretty
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interesting. They have fresh organic ingredients,
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many of which they grow right on site. Their
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meals are made to order, emphasizing patients
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centered care and healthy. healthier eating choices
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so okay well they sound like they're trying to
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cover all the bases for people who have a dislike
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for traditional hospital again you know you're
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sick you should eat right you should eat healthier
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foods in your mind at least you believe that
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you know there's a new york presbyterian hospital
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it's new york they have known for what they call
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the amenities unit so here you get gourmet meals,
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you get mushroom risotto, and patients, this
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is pretty crazy, can upgrade to penthouse suites
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with butler service while in that hospital. Sounds
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like what I would imagine a stereotype for New
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York would be. That's like just, you know, what
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an enhancing opportunity for hospital food. Right,
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I want to get sick and go to New York right now.
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You know, they have, there's another Mount Sinai
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Medical Center in New York City. Again, in this
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place, patients can request special dishes like
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Colorado rack of lamb, lobster, although lobster
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tail I did have when our first son was born.
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They're not going to offer that any longer at
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the hospital, but I did get the opportunity to
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have that. And they emphasize that this hospital,
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the true dining experience. So, you know, initially
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it sounds like if you're going to get sick and
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want to go, you have to go to a hospital. New
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York is the place you want to be, you know, like
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New York, for example. Now we know they have
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some phenomenal hospitals with food or phenomenal
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food in some hospitals, I should say. Stereotype.
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They're all fast talking people. Aggressive.
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They're always on a hurry. They're always aggressive.
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In truth. Yeah, they are faster than country
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folk. I mean, it's a different environment. It's
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a 24 -hour city. Not everything's 20 minutes
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away. Yes, it's a vibrant city. A lot of competition.
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I mean, how many sports teams do they have in
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that little island? Exactly. And yet, I've been
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to New York. The people are incredibly friendly.
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Yes. They're not rustling, hustling past you.
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being rude to tourists. No, they love tourists.
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They love to help you out. They're rich with
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diversity again. And, you know, they're beautiful,
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warm neighborhoods. And I've been to bakeries
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that are family owned, that are just awesome.
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And I don't look at it and go, wow, these are
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roughneck New Yorkers. It was a great time there.
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So again, stereotype that doesn't necessarily
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hold true, you know, as a truth only. I wonder
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if it's just human nature to feel more entertained,
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believing in the stereotype. That's about easier,
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huh? Some people take the easy way and go, eh,
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that's how they all are, rather than doing the
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research or visiting or something like that.
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When reality is they're really just nice human
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beings. Yes, yes. Sometimes the stereotype gets
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in the way of us giving them a chance. Yeah,
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that's 100 % true. California, for example. You
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know a lot of people believe they're all health
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obsessed and you know yoga practicing and and
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You know, well, I thought they all served eating
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toasts avocado toast only Isn't that true? And
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in reality, let's get to the truth Yeah, there's
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a strong wellness culture. Mm -hmm. Well, they
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have you know Awesome weather in a lot of the
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state They're outdoor people. So yes, wellness
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makes sense. Here we can't ride a bike in the
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winter so easily. We can, but not like in parts
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of California. There's tech innovations there.
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They have huge technology centers. Their culture
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is really substantial. They have influences that
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trek throughout the country because they're so
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large with so many people. So if something's
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in California, it tends to cross country. Right.
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Yeah. It started there and migrate its way east.
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Yes. You know, it might be adjusted, of course,
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because people are different. And, you know,
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not everyone in California are surfing and doing
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yoga and going to the beach every day. Oh, yeah.
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That's because they're playing golf, pickleball
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and going hiking. Yeah. I mean, there's other
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stuff to do. Yeah. Wonderful state of Florida.
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Stereotype. You know old people old people only
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and there's always the man the Florida man Did
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this or the Florida man did that? Which is kind
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of a weird thing that guy I know that he's like
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on every other episode of date What is it? Reality
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TV show right so many of them who can remember
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anymore, you know, but the truth is dateline
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Yeah, 48 hours. It's always the Florida guy.
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Yeah, the Florida guy. We get to have beautiful
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beaches, vibrant cities, again, cultural history
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that's throughout the state. It's not quite what
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you would stereotype. It's not just oranges and
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Everglades and Disney World. Ironically, Cowboys
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started in Florida. Right, and ironically, they
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weren't from Texas. No, they weren't. Or Montana,
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or Wyoming. And the Indian nation of Florida
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is the only, if I get this right, and the audience
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can correct me, but I believe it's correct, are
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the only Indian nation that never surrendered.
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And that's because they lived in the swamps of
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Florida, and I'm sure they were razed, but they
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never surrendered. Believe which is awesome.
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I believe a lot of stories about the Indians
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and their culture and their heritage and their
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history are not giving enough time to Deserve
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the respect that they do the reserve 100 % 100
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% Hey, here we go Midwesterners now that that
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puts us right into the bucket. Okay? The stereotype
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Midwesterners are polite. Well, thank you very
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much. But dull, dull. Oh, well, I can be dull
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at times, but I don't know. That's because of
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a midwesterner. And, you know, we were obsessed
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with cornfields and town life. Town life sounds
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like somebody from Iowa. You know, is the Midwesterners
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only like country folk only? Well, I don't think
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so. You know, we're actually very friendly. You
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know we live in urban areas like Chicago Okay,
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there's no cornfields anymore in Chicago Minneapolis
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ain't no cornfields in Minneapolis anymore. And
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again, we have diverse Scenes to go to we have
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great culinary Restaurants Chicago's like absolutely
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right up on par with New York or anywhere else
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in the country or world for that matter And it's
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you know vibrant nightlife very Midwestern stereotypical
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if you want to you know take a close look at
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it Texas for one more of these Texas they're
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all gun toting cowboys in Texas. They sure are.
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They all live on ranches. They do. Do some. They
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do. They got a lot of land in Texas. Sure do.
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Of course. But I've been to Texas as well. And
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they're not all cowboys there. There is a strong
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cowboy culture. There was many years of cowboys
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that were throughout the state of Texas. But
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go to Houston, go to Austin, the music capital,
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and you'll see a whole different world. Bring
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it on. What's our next state? Living tents? Um,
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you know, Portland, yeah, you know, there's quirky
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vibes, of course. And there's food trucks. They're
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awesome. Um, and there's a coffee, coffee. Can't
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say the word for some reason. I need coffee.
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Coffee culture. Um, yes. Starbucks, I guess you
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all know about the coffee culture of Oregon.
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Um, there's, you know, natural landscapes. There's
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urban scenes. There's beaches, there's mountains,
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of course, and there's actually high desert,
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which is really pretty awesome. So, I mean, I
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see nothing wrong with the state of Oregon or
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the Oregonians. I think Oregon is pretty cool
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because it's hometown of home state. Pardon me,
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Nike. You know, it's yeah. So again, visit Oregon
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and learn about the Oregonians and state of Oregon
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if you think the stereotypes are all only true.
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To me, it's like California only better. Yeah.
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You know, and finally, as mentioned in my intro,
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the stereotype for Alaska is all wilderness and
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everyone lives in igloos with global warming
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coming about, there won't be no more igloos.
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Unfortunately, there's a truth and yet the truth
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about Alaska. There's one place I have not been
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yet, but it's got really diverse. Climates I'm
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glad you're more there than Chicago in the winter.
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Yeah, okay in Anchorage But Alaska should be
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on everybody's bucket list. It's yeah, I mean,
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it's got temperate rainforest You know again
00:24:06.890 --> 00:24:08.950
outdoor stuff. Well, of course, it's not like,
00:24:08.950 --> 00:24:11.210
you know, not like going to Chicago necessarily
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You know, it's got tundra. It's got all types
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of modern homes though true and all kinds of
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activities that are year -round even though people
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think it's always winter in Alaska and always
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filled with mosquitoes. Yes, you can find winter.
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Okay. Yes, you can find mosquitoes. You are absolutely
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helping me to have a clear idea of what a stereotype
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is by using Alaska. Thank you very much. Let
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me see here as they prepare us for the next segment.
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For not the faint of heart But for the rest of
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us, we're going to continue go ahead mark Yes,
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you know, so we've looked at some of the states
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and the stereotypes and the truths about them
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And you know just American culture, you know,
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well, it felt good You know kind of like beating
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our chest about you know, how great America is
00:25:11.210 --> 00:25:14.190
and the United States Yes, you know 100 % you
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know, we're we're sometimes looked at as you
00:25:16.349 --> 00:25:21.859
know being in informal in many ways I like that
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about ourselves if people that I don't think
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it's a stereotype I think it's our reality yeah
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I mean that's you know again for businesses and
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you would know maybe more that I've been retired
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a long time you're still out there pounding the
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bricks you know Americans when we talk about
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the informality in many countries I guess I guess
00:25:42.579 --> 00:25:45.660
people call their bosses by their last name and
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here in America we don't we call our bosses by
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their first names and right is perceived as an
00:25:52.819 --> 00:25:55.880
you know informalness that i think that that's
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very true but you know how how would i really
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know but i'm sure in cultures uh asian cultures
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and latin america what is the difference you
00:26:05.579 --> 00:26:09.059
know there's a lot of different heritage that
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comes in gets involved in totally totally i've
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been told i'm really an american and you know
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before I went to Italy I looked and did some
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research and found that they forewarn you as
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an American that the tone of an Italian's voice
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potentially I guess whether it's spoken in Italian
00:26:31.569 --> 00:26:36.170
or they're trying to speak English our American
00:26:36.170 --> 00:26:41.569
ear can pick that up as being rude true and in
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reality they're absolutely 100 They're passionate
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they're expressing themselves I could come back
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and have it become a stereotypical Because again
00:27:07.390 --> 00:27:10.670
stereotypes can sometimes hold, you know some
00:27:10.670 --> 00:27:15.349
kernels of truth They often, you know, they overlook
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the rich diversity, the complexity of American
00:27:20.910 --> 00:27:25.430
culture, European cultures, all different types
00:27:25.430 --> 00:27:27.930
of cultures. There's, you know, some truths about
00:27:27.930 --> 00:27:31.990
American society and its various cultured landscape
00:27:31.990 --> 00:27:35.289
and there's a lot of untruths about it, you know,
00:27:35.309 --> 00:27:38.930
as well. You know, Americans are actually very
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generous. Americans are very optimistic in reality
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Boy, aren't we ever I mean very creative. Look
00:27:47.259 --> 00:27:49.359
at how many cubs fans there are. That's right
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:57.000
And we're certainly, you know creative and innovative
00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:02.019
in and what we do We're not again stereotypically.
00:28:02.019 --> 00:28:05.240
Are there some of course materialistic? We're
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:10.480
not culturally ignorant. We're not arrogant Having
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.359
a feeling of entitlement, which again is oh those
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:21.400
people are just jealous of us mark Because again
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.140
we're on the later side of things right, you
00:28:24.140 --> 00:28:27.319
know But these are important points to make up
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:29.720
because you know as I'm learning about our talk
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:34.259
about stereotypes and truths Stereotypes have
00:28:34.259 --> 00:28:38.329
some good points to them And it also has a bad
00:28:38.329 --> 00:28:40.650
side to it. Terrible. You know, again, there's
00:28:40.650 --> 00:28:44.549
things that we've done, you know, that are beginning
00:28:44.549 --> 00:28:46.670
to change. And some people have difficulty with
00:28:46.670 --> 00:28:51.190
this. Stereotypes that we've had like in the
00:28:51.190 --> 00:28:53.890
film industry where, you know, Asians all played
00:28:53.890 --> 00:28:57.269
a certain type of character. Yeah. People that
00:28:57.269 --> 00:28:59.089
are African -American would play a certain type
00:28:59.089 --> 00:29:02.089
of character. Spanish would play a certain type
00:29:02.089 --> 00:29:03.970
of character. Right, and you know, it's really
00:29:03.970 --> 00:29:06.509
amazing since we're talking about this, Mark.
00:29:07.170 --> 00:29:09.450
Just think about this for a moment. When we go
00:29:09.450 --> 00:29:14.410
back to when we were kids in the 70s, if we watch
00:29:14.410 --> 00:29:19.829
some of those movies again today, how about Saturday
00:29:19.829 --> 00:29:22.970
Night Fever? Right. Some of the things that are
00:29:22.970 --> 00:29:26.009
done there would not be found acceptable today
00:29:26.009 --> 00:29:29.109
because of the stereotypes. How about Blazing
00:29:29.109 --> 00:29:33.009
Saddles? Some of the gags that were done in that
00:29:33.009 --> 00:29:37.309
movie would be totally Frowned upon today 100
00:29:37.309 --> 00:29:40.009
% even watching some of the serendipity live
00:29:40.009 --> 00:29:43.630
50 year anniversary Some of those were a little
00:29:43.630 --> 00:29:46.130
uncomfortable. Yeah, because they were from 50
00:29:46.130 --> 00:29:48.029
years ago 50 years ago. Yes, you know and again
00:29:48.029 --> 00:29:51.390
those things Developed we thought they were stereotypes.
00:29:51.589 --> 00:29:54.089
We thought they were truths. I should say they
00:29:54.089 --> 00:29:57.980
were really all stereotypes today we're breaking
00:29:57.980 --> 00:30:00.339
those right and people that have trouble with
00:30:00.339 --> 00:30:03.819
the truth let's say have trouble seeing that
00:30:03.819 --> 00:30:07.940
sometimes and figuring out or understanding why
00:30:07.940 --> 00:30:10.640
you know we're we're doing that why you know
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:13.799
why there are individual differences that actually
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:20.180
you know enrich us rather than alienate us so
00:30:20.180 --> 00:30:22.940
there's an american stereotypes that are both
00:30:22.940 --> 00:30:27.529
positive negative Today need to be looked at
00:30:27.529 --> 00:30:31.910
in a different light in order so we might advance
00:30:31.910 --> 00:30:42.430
true Well, so once again we we come to the part
00:30:42.430 --> 00:30:46.089
of our podcast which is the conclusion this time
00:30:46.089 --> 00:30:49.910
being the conclusion of truths and stereotypes
00:30:49.910 --> 00:30:52.250
at least for this evening and you know mark I
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:54.359
want to tell you that I really learned a lot
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:56.240
you know we started with I don't know what a
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.740
stereotype is and as we marched through the last
00:30:59.740 --> 00:31:03.740
20 -25 minutes I've learned a lot about what
00:31:03.740 --> 00:31:06.559
are stereotypes what are good about stereotypes
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:09.579
and there's some things that aren't so good about
00:31:09.579 --> 00:31:13.319
stereotypes so I'm looking forward to how you
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:15.720
wrap it up you know and before I get into the
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.019
final conclusion I want to again invite our listeners
00:31:19.019 --> 00:31:23.279
any stereotypes that you've lived through experienced
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.839
if you want to share them with us we'd love to
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:27.880
hear from you yeah absolutely please share those
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:29.539
with us some of them on the air at some point
00:31:29.539 --> 00:31:33.039
as we move along here and you know thank you
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.700
again for for sticking with us uh so you know
00:31:36.700 --> 00:31:39.460
will i one day as i started in my introduction
00:31:39.460 --> 00:31:43.420
will i one day be given mustard for my pancakes
00:31:43.420 --> 00:31:48.410
i hope so yes Even in a rhetorical sense, there's
00:31:48.410 --> 00:31:50.869
a big word. Oh, I really want to see you get
00:31:50.869 --> 00:31:53.490
more mustard on your pancakes because you're
00:31:53.490 --> 00:31:55.930
my friend. I got to see it. This is the type
00:31:55.930 --> 00:32:00.190
of stuff that produces stereotypes of places,
00:32:01.049 --> 00:32:05.990
cultures, foods, demographics or anything else
00:32:05.990 --> 00:32:10.450
as we journey through our life experiences. Can
00:32:10.450 --> 00:32:13.730
you allow yourselves to see some experiences
00:32:13.730 --> 00:32:21.619
as exceptions and not the rule or truths if we
00:32:21.619 --> 00:32:26.559
ask or do a little research we can expand our
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:32.960
understanding of mustard pancake syrup prior
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:37.519
to visiting Italy as I mentioned earlier I did
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:41.460
learn that the rough -and -gruff tone of Italians
00:32:41.460 --> 00:32:47.559
can be perceived as It's rough and tough to Americans.
00:32:48.299 --> 00:32:51.579
And as I mentioned, no, they are not. They are
00:32:51.579 --> 00:32:55.359
wonderful people. Should I have not gone to Italy
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.420
because I would be worried about the attitude
00:32:57.420 --> 00:33:00.059
of Italians, I would have been eliminating a
00:33:00.059 --> 00:33:03.720
potential opportunity to see the truth and believing
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:09.220
in the stereotype. Stereotypes are oversimplified,
00:33:09.460 --> 00:33:13.460
generalized beliefs. They can be both positive
00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:16.869
and negative. They often serve to categorize
00:33:16.869 --> 00:33:20.349
individuals based on perceived traits, you might
00:33:20.349 --> 00:33:26.910
say. It's brought me great joys inviting doctors,
00:33:27.589 --> 00:33:33.289
lawyers, accountants, Jews, Muslims, and nationalities
00:33:33.289 --> 00:33:38.569
from around the world to enjoy pig roasts together.
00:33:40.370 --> 00:33:42.809
And hey, I do actually eat pig's tail if you
00:33:42.809 --> 00:33:45.549
want to get into stereotype of cultural weird
00:33:45.549 --> 00:33:47.970
foods I thought we were saying that for another
00:33:47.970 --> 00:33:52.630
episode. There's lots of material there And when
00:33:52.630 --> 00:33:55.049
we have our pig roast or have had our pig roast
00:33:55.049 --> 00:33:58.549
all these groups of diverse people that could
00:33:58.549 --> 00:34:01.029
all be looked at stereotypically and go oh my
00:34:01.029 --> 00:34:03.930
goodness how could you get along doctors lawyers
00:34:03.930 --> 00:34:05.990
and how can you talk and accountants accountants
00:34:05.990 --> 00:34:08.389
are all accountants are boring do they talk you
00:34:08.389 --> 00:34:11.989
know that's right you know we laugh about and
00:34:11.989 --> 00:34:15.050
learn about our differences and the stereotypes
00:34:15.050 --> 00:34:18.690
that surround us constantly surrounding us constantly
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what a joy that we are not all the same you know
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mark and i thank you for joining us Now, pass
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me the maple syrup, please. Yeah, hold on. I'm
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not done with it, OK? And I think this is really
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great. And listeners, if you have comments about
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So. Thanks. This is our fifth episode. We're
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looking to an awesome sixth and have a great
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day make it a great day Thank you pass the maple
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syrup. All right Mark and I really appreciate
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and thank you for tuning in to our podcast Sunset
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