Summer State of Mind

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I'm Christine.
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And I'm Christina.
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In 2024, I moved to Texas from LA.
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And to keep in touch, Christine and I started a weekly game where we each pick a song that fits a chosen theme.
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This game deepened our understanding of each other and the songs that shape us, inspiring the podcast you're listening to now.
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Each week we share our pics, swap stories, and dig into tracks you might love and a lot of the time have never heard of.
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Welcome to Stereothematica, your favorite atypical music podcast.
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Christina, do you think we are late to the game sharing our summer songs or our summer state of mind songs?
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It's still 1,000 degrees where I live.
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So summer is not going away anytime soon.
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Yep.
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But when does this episode come out?
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Coming out September 1st.
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Oh.
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So technically before Labor Day, we're within summertime, right?
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Yeah.
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And like your Janet Jackson pick from last week, summer can go on and on, but hopefully not the heat.
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Speak for yourself.
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Oh God.
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Summer's just I think I've told you just to hurt my feelings.
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Yeah.
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I like to look at the LA weather to see how it is.
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But I looked and it was very hot recently.
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For me, summer is like warm.
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Like you could it could be October 15th and be, you know, 87 degrees outside.
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And I'm like, it's still summer.
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Put away your jack-o'-lanterns.
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Although I will still put out a jack-o'-lantern.
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Oh, you will, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, they melt, they rot, you know.
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But still, summer is a state of mind.
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Yes, it is.
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So we're good.
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Okay, good.
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No, I I agree with that.
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And yeah, the the weather is horrible.
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I do like that summer state of mind where things are just a little calmer, a little quieter, work-wise, a little bit.
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I don't want to jinx anything there.
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But yeah, last year, I'm sure you remember we shared our summer songs at the beginning of summer.
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Right.
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And I think this timing is better.
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Yeah.
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Because, like, this is the song I think that represents our vibe during the summer.
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And maybe even like what we'd like to carry on for the next couple of months.
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So are you agreeable to this overall?
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You know, I'm going to agree with the first part.
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I think it's nice that we've had the opportunity to take an assessment of our summer and say, here's my summer song.
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I don't know if I'm going to keep my summer mood moving into the next couple of months.
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Maybe I I hope not.
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Okay.
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And you'll you'll understand why as soon as I talk about my pick.
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I think I have an idea, but yeah, we'll we'll get to that.
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And um, okay, well, in in last year's summer songs episode, we got into the complicated nature of the summer song, like if it's even a thing anymore, if it's something to celebrate.
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I picked Sophie Tucker's Energia, and yours was, can you remind us?
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Oh, yes, it was 360 by Charlie XCX.
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Yes, a very brat summer for you last year.
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I still stand by my choice.
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What about you?
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Well, I we have to full disclosure, those were our picks from summer 2024.
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Oh, that's right.
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That's right.
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Because that's when you picked the theme.
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So even though I had a callback last summer to Brad Summer, it wasn't Brat Summer last summer.
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I was still rocking 360.
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Okay.
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I think yours is probably timeless.
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No, I think so.
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Mine is for sure.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But I can still really enjoy listening to the Brat album.
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It's just not Brat Summer anymore.
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Yeah, I hear you.
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Well, yours, I guess, technically was somewhat of a hit summer song.
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Mine less so, although I would argue that it's very summery.
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Just not summer song in the typical like, this is the song of the summer.
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Song of the summer, sure.
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But we are not going to do that this year either.
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Like the big hit songs.
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Uh-huh.
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That's what you think.
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I don't know.
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Maybe.
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No, I'm not sure.
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I don't know.
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But but um, I was curious what the big summer songs are.
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So I Googled 2026 summer songs, and I got pitchforks 20 contenders for 2026.
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And I I shared this article with you a couple weeks ago because I thought it'd be fun to discuss before getting into our actual picks.
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Did you listen to them all?
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I did listen to them all.
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And wow, do you know when you feel like there's this like joke going on and you're not in on it?
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Yes.
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That's what this playlist felt like to me.
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It's it's so I don't want to say it's so bad, but there's so much I just didn't know.
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Or understand.
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Or understand where I feel.
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I feel like Methuselah.
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I'm like, I'm older than everyone who's ever listened to any of these songs.
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No, and and did it surprise you too that this was actually a pitchfork article.
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Yes.
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Like I'm like, maybe I don't know, Kiss FM, maybe, but pitchfork?
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Yeah, I I actually so you remember when I talked about pitchfork a while back when I was talking about how they've really changed.
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Yep.
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It's not the same publication that it used to be.
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And I do kind of feel like there's a lot of I don't know, it's just so different.
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Maybe it it stayed the same and I've changed.
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Possibly, you know, but it I don't actually think that's it.
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Cause like, okay, let's talk about the list.
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Okay, yeah, please.
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Okay.
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So, well, first of all, can are there any on there that you actually liked?
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And can you guess which ones I actually liked?
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I did like a few of them.
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Okay.
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And I know what you think.
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And let me just address the because listener, go ahead and open up the you we've got it in the show notes.
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Go ahead and open it.
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You might as well follow along with us because I don't think we'll name every single one of the songs.
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There is a Charlie XCX song on this list.
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I don't like it.
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Oh, interesting.
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Do you?
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I mean, I kind of like if I had to narrow down to five, it would be in five, but that doesn't say much.
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Interesting.
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So it's not that I dislike it, I just thought it was boring.
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I was like, yawn, and you know, I listened to it, but I was like, there's nothing that makes me want to come back to this song.
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Yeah.
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It's called Wink Wink Listener.
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And it's very over the top in a way, in a way.
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Like the videos.
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I used to be a bad girl or not suitable for work, if you would.
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Oh, I didn't even watch the video.
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I should have watched it.
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Oh, yes.
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I did like this is what surprised me.
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I liked the Olivia Rodrigo song.
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Oh, dude.
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Did you think I I also love that one?
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I thought you might like it too, because it's very 80s.
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It's very 80s, it's very tongue-in-cheek and fun.
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Yes.
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Apropos of nothing, my friend Joe texted me this week and he said he's shared an Olivia Rodrigo song with me.
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Not this one, but he said, I'm having an Olivia Rodrigo summer.
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He was like, This is kind of my song of the summer.
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I mean, he didn't even know.
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I was like, little do you know.
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We'll be talking about her.
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No, that is kind of crazy because of all those songs, I would say that was the one I liked the most.
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It was good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's funny.
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It's very upbeat.
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It's something that I can find myself being like, I will listen to that again.
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And I don't know if I will continue to listen to it.
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If it comes on.
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If it comes on, I definitely will.
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And it's fun.
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I listened to it again today.
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I want to say a couple of times, maybe since I listened to it when I was just like looking through the playlist.
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But yeah, of all those songs, that's the only one I would actually listen to again.
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Okay.
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You know what I liked but didn't feel like listening to again?
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Coconut water.
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No, I did not like that.
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I kind of liked it.
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Really?
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It was ridiculous.
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It was ridiculous.
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And that's by Trim.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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I don't like the name, but I like the song, sort of.
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Here's the one I thought you would like.
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Oh.
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Miss Kitoko.
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Yeah, that's in Madonna.
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Because it's in French.
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Yep, top five.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I figured.
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Okay.
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I liked the Madonna song.
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It's good.
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It was fun.
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Yeah.
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It's very auto-tuned, don't you think?
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Yeah, which I don't like that part of it.
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And I feel like Danceteria on this new album.
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Oh, I haven't listened to it.
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Probably a better summer song, but no, I liked it.
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I liked it too.
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And then, okay, one last one.
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It this is actually, I think, okay, I have Olivia Rodrigo, I have the Madonna, I have Trims Coconut Water.
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Let's see, Charlie XCX, Theodora.
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And then as a bonus, Twisted Teens, Florida water blues.
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You know what?
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When I heard that song, I was like, they love Bruce Springsteen.
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Oh, really?
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I don't even like Blue.
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I don't like Bruce Springsteen.
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To me, I was like, this is Bruce Bruce Springsteen from Florida.
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I mean, I don't know if that's actually where they're from, but um, you know, same East Coast, whatever.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Okay, here's what I liked.
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Drake.
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No.
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I I mean, I didn't dislike it.
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I'm not gonna say I disliked it, but it is it's like classic Drake, you know.
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Yeah.
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And it felt very like I used to love Drake when it was more okay to like him.
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Okay.
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Okay, I love that song, Spend That, by young Miami.
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Okay, I kind of remember not liking that one at all.
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Spend that shit.
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Spend that shit.
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Oh my god, it's funny.
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Yeah, and also, did you see I Love Boosters, the movie?
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No, uh Bootsy comedy.
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Yeah, I heard that was good.
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Yeah, it was good, and it's like that's a very funny movie.
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And I feel like they do feature that song.
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And okay, you're gonna hate me.
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Oh, there's more.
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How could I not like choose in Texas by Ella Langley?
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So when you it's a horrible, that's the worst one on the list, I gotta say.
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No, horrible.
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Are you not kidding?
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Like, is are you just doing this because of the Texas connection?
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I mean, I like it and I'm not sorry.
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Okay.
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No, that's fine.
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It's like so funny because it's I feel like that song has gone triple, quadruple, quintuple platinum.
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Like people went so crazy for this song this year.
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Really?
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Yeah, there's like I have to wait, let me go to the artist page and just see really quickly.
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Okay, this song on Spotify alone has been streamed 636,900.
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Wait, 636,970,000 times.
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By whom?
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Like how freaks.
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Listen, you're I'm not listening to it.
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I'm not I've heard it all over the place.
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Like it's playing on the radio, it's playing on the Instagram songs, it's it's out there.
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It's fun.
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Okay, she's from Texas.
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I can tell by the way, she's two-stepping around her.
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Come on, that's good.
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I like it.
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She probably has horrible politics, so let's just say that.
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I don't know.
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I I'm not gonna investigate.
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Yeah, okay, and then I will say, disappointed in the Phoebe Bridgers song.
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Okay, that's another one I was gonna guess that you might have liked, but yeah, I wasn't feeling that at all.
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I've never gotten into Phoebe Bridgers, and then when I knew the song was coming out because there was a lot of hype around it, and I'm like, wow, wow, wow, is it gonna be good?
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I listened to it for the first time today, and I was like, that's it.
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Yeah.
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Snooze.
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Good.
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I don't know.
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I felt like so many, like, yeah, we're talking about like how many songs that we kind of like between us, maybe eight or ten, maybe.
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Yeah.
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So I guess that's not too bad, but but the rest just are snoozes or just bad.
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A lot, a lot of stuff where I'm like, this is a a C grade Beyoncé song.
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Yes.
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This is a you know, I would give the X a C plus or a B minus.
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You know, like some of these other ones I'm just like, what ups?
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No, there I was actually there's this Adam Killer.
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He I don't I didn't even know he was a musician.
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I know him from Instagram where he acts extremely goofy, like his videos are really funny, but I don't know.
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Like I said, a lot of the stuff I'm like, this is a secret I'm not in on.
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Yeah, and I'm okay with that.
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Okay, but wait, what was your top song?
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I mean, truly it was the expectations.
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Okay, and I had zero expectations.
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I think that was maybe the first Olivia Rodrigo song I actually listened to, and well, listened to, period, but then listened to and was like, oh, huh.
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Yeah, maybe I need to listen to more.
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You know, she's like kind of really cool.
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Yeah, that's what I'm gathering.
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Yeah, I love that.
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I love that she's like very pro-woman, very pro-abortion, all the things.
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Like she's she's a young badass.
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Love that for her, even though she's like, you know, a pop star.
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Like you we all contain multitudes.
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Exactly.
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I mean, she had um David Byrne, remember we talked about that on Aaron Robert show.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And that freak from Smashing Pumpkins, yeah, Philly Corgan.
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Oh, yeah, he's he's a bit of a freak.
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Oh, by the way, speaking of David Byrne, I'm going to his concert.
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When?
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Where?
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Saturday at the Hollywood Bowl.
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Frick! Yes.
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I'm jealous.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, just had to throw that out.
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So, so yeah, these songs, I don't know.
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To me, no summer vibes at all.
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Even even expectations, not necessarily a summer song.
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I feel like that could be a fall song.
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I don't know.
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She mentions New Year's Eve.
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Okay, yeah.
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In the song.
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So I don't know.
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Yeah, to me, that might be.
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Probably.
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I mean, that's a good point.
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Most of these did not feel like summer songs.
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There was there were actually several songs that I had to skip within like 30 seconds.
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Oh, yeah.
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It hurt my ears.
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Yeah.
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I wasn't listening to all of them.
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I'm looking at you, Kim Petris.
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Do you better?
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But yeah, summer, summer song is it's a vibe.
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And I don't know that we I don't know that we should work for them.
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We can fix their eyes.
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I think so.
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Pitchwork, reach out.
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Yeah.
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In the meantime, let's let's get to our picks.
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Okay.
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So I did have one constraint for us, which was the song didn't have to be released in the summer of 2026, but you had to discover it in the summer of 2026.
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So with that in mind, this is a 2025 release that I learned about at the beginning of this summer, and it immediately set the tone for the months ahead.
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The song is Yildees by Pekki Momey.
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At least for me.
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And I know you were feeling it too when I shared it.
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And then I immediately shared the original.
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And you liked that even more.
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Yes.
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And I I hate to be that person because I don't want to be a fighter, but like I listened to your pick and I loved it.
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And then I listened to the original and I super loved it.
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But what did I like the most?
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The album art.
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Oh, yes.
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What's that guy's name?
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Marcus Valley.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Just please, everyone, go look at the it's so good.
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And the video is even better.
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But the album cover is him with some fruit and tropical drinks.
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Bunch of drinks.
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Yeah, he's holding up a blue drink, I think it is.
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He's wearing like a pink t-shirt Venus, he's clearly dying his hair blonde.
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Yes.
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I mean, he was like a bitch boy.
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Oh, very well.
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So but Yildis, which is Turkish four-star, is the cover of this 1983 hit, Estrela, and that's Portuguese for star.
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And this is from, of course, the legendary Brazilian singer, songwriter, producer Marcos Valley.
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And even if you haven't heard this name or know the song Estrilar, you've probably heard his song Samber Samba.
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How does that go?
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Perfect.
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Sorry.
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I love that.
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That was really good.
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And it's also known as So Nice.
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So anyway, it's been covered a thousand times.
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So he's he's been writing and performing since the 60s and helped shape Bossa Nova samba and and just general, like popular Brazilian music.
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But I didn't actually know this was a Marcus Valley song.
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The first time I heard it was from another Brazilian band, Os Fleepers, who did a cover of the song the same year Valley's version came out.
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And I just heard it a few years ago on the Mr.
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Bongo Record Club Volume 3, which has a ton of Afro-Brazilian, like very like summer vibing funk songs.
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And we will share that.
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But the funny thing is, I feel like I didn't give you a chance to like digest Yeldi's the song that I picked for my summer song.
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I just immediately like shared the Volley version and then the O Slippers version version.
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And it didn't, I didn't give you a chance to fully appreciate the Peck Pecky Momos version.
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I you know.
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Do you feel short-changed?
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No, I don't feel shortchanged.
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And I listened to that one probably more times than I probab um okay.
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Sorry, I probably listened to the how do you say it, Pecky?
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Pecky.
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Pecky is great.
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I listened to that version as many times as I listened to the Valley version.
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Yeah.
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They're both really good in their own way.
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But I didn't see Valley's video.
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I did see the Pecky version.
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Oh, okay.
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And the Pecky version is very cute.
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Now you have to check out the Vali version.
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Okay.
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So it's basically people working out on the beach while Vali is driving this vintage red convertible, and he's looking like directly into the camera from time to time.
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And then they're all at the beach at night, and it's set up like a living room, and they're watching a TV of the earlier beach footage.
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And they're like digging it big time.
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Oh my God, I love that.
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Remember when the sun was out, you guys?
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It's it's so insane.
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The beach like they have like a whole living room set up on the beach.
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That's amazing.
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Okay.
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I regret not watching it.
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Yeah, and and the original is all about working out.
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It's it's about getting into shape for the summer.
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And it's basically about becoming a star brighter than the sun.
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And by all that working out, you will you will shine more than the sun.
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That's yeah, I know it's crazy.
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The the Mr.
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Bongo Records website has a nice write-up noting that the Valley song is about so much more than working out, though.
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It's about Valley's irrepressible enthusiasm that captured the mood of a country emerging from two decades of a military dictatorship.
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Damn.
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But yeah, I chose the Turkish cover because of its languidness, and it's kind of been my vibe all summer.
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So let's talk a little bit about that.
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Okay.
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Pekki Momet is a Turkish artist living in Germany.
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And according to her Bandcamp page, she only started recording music by accident in 2023.
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And it's weird because a bunch of places say by accident, 2023.
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I eventually found an interview where she shares a bit more about her origin story as a singer.
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It sounds like she lived in the same flat as some musicians, and they randomly asked her like if she would sing a couple of lines on an album they were making.
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And then they realized she can sing and fast forward a couple of years to her debut single, Gudge Smith See Me.
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Easy for you to say.
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So that made a splash last fall, and it got played on Iggy Pop's BBC show.
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Her sound has been described as dirty disco, Anatolian grooves, library music, and city pop.
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And the self-titled album, which this song that I shared, Yildies is not on the album.
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It's a single right now, but the self-titled album is so smooth and dreamy.
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It's more chill by the pool than get up and dance.
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But like again, summer vibes all around.
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And her bandcamp page says her cover of Estrela is about drawing energy from the bright stars, dreaming of meeting the stars up in the sky alongside the sun and the moon.
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And I think that's what you kind of get a little glimpse of in the video.
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It does have this more airy, nonchalant feel that's so summary and defiant to life's demands, including exercise.
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It's like the total anti-exercise song.
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And there's not a lot out there about Pecky, which isn't even her real name.
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Though in one interview with Durham Records, she talked.
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About one of my favorite things to hear from an artist, and that's the songs that inspired her when working on her debut album.
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And she mentioned how Japanese city pop was a huge influence, especially Akiko Yano.
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She also shared 10 songs, including my favorite from L.
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Michael's affair, Unati.
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And we'll share that playlist too.
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It's all like such great music to keep you in that summer mindset throughout the year, not just into October, November, but like, why not?
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Just summer mindset all year long.
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Yes.
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Now I'm very curious, Christina, how your pick got to be your summer state of mind song.
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Please take it away.
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Oh, I will.
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And I'm I am, I'm not worried.
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I just I think you are aware that I've been having like a little bit of a bummer summer.
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It's not my first one I've ever had, so I'm not a stranger to the bummer summer, but it's just been like a hot, weird, depressing summer.
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Which is why I gravitated toward a weirdly dark song for my summer jam.
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So let's take a quick listen to Shotzi by Otis featuring Steph Chura.
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I do what I believe.
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I don't remember.
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I think you liked it, but what was your kind of reaction when I shared this with you as my summer song?
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Were you worried?
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It didn't have the summer vibe feel that I was expecting.
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Sure.
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But if Olivia Rodrigo has taught us anything, better not to have expectation.
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Good call.
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So I wasn't worried.
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I was curious though.
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And yeah, I had never heard of Otis, the song.
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I was a little curious about the use of Shotzi.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I had never heard of this band either.
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It was one of these songs that came up on like a Discover weekly playlist for me on Spotify.
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And I heard it and it just kind of hooked me in because it was dark and weird.
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And also I was like, what is Schatzi?
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So they do talk about it a little bit in interviews.
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Schatzi means like dear or darling in German, I think.
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And I think there was a play on words with Katsy.
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I think one of the band members had a friend had a cat name.
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Either Katzi or Schatzi, I need to go confirm.
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But it kind of doesn't mean anything.
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And that is also intriguing to me.
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Because what you're listening to, like when you're hearing that, is Otis's vocalist Sam Swinson, who's essentially playing a caricature of a shitty guy, and then Steph Chura, the female vocalist, who's essentially playing the put upon girlfriend.
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And the male character here is the quote character analysis of the selfish antisocial male, end quote.
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At least that's how Swinson described this song in an article I read on Music Blog When the Horn Blows.
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And this single is not new.
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It came out in 2021.
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So it is new to me, but it's been out for a while.
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And it kind of made me think about what was going on during that time period.
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So think back to 2021.
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Um we were coming out of the pandemic, at least some of us.
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I know in Texas there was a lot of ignoring mask mandates and stay home advisories.
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And I'm guessing it wasn't just Texas.
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There were plenty of people out there ignoring these warnings and doing what they please, as our singer triumphantly says.
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Did you happen to watch the video?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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It's a good video.
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It's so good.
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Yeah.
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And like I encourage our listeners to check it out too.
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It's funny because it feels so 2021.
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I wish I would have seen this because it's essentially someone doing a meditation, a guided meditation on their phone, and they keep getting like all these alerts.
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I the first time I saw it stressed me out because it was my text message noise.
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I thought so too, yeah.
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And then there's a couple funny Easter eggs in there.
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So one, the guy, you're assuming it's it's a conversation between the man and woman in the song.
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Yeah.
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The guy writes, Oh, I don't have a mask to get into this vape shop and they won't let me in.
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Uh-huh.
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So he's like trying to go buy a vape and doesn't have a mask.
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He is talking about something called Rich Dork, which rhymes with pitchfork.
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Oh.
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And I'm thinking they were talking about using rich dork as a euphemism for pitchfork because they were like saying that in terms of reviews and stuff.
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There's another funny Easter egg.
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Uh-huh.
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The guy texts, Do you like Ariel Pink?
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Do you remember when we talked about Ariel Pink?
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Yes, you did mention him before.
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Yeah.
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And that was like a little funny aside because he famously got canceled and was kind of a shitty dude.
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Yep.
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And just love it.
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So go go check it out.
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But for the record, I don't identify with either character in this song.
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I'm not a put upon girlfriend.
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I'm not a selfish antisocial male.
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But there was this weirdly hypnotic element about the way Swinson is singing in the song, and then the raw exasperation of Chura and her very explicit reaction to the shit boyfriend, if that's who he is.
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But with the almost upbeat delivery of both characters, let's listen.
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I've listened to this song so many times since I discovered it this summer, just because I have to wait until the end to get that.
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And it's like, I love it because it hooks me in.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I can see that.
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And I'm I'm worried because it's almost crossed over into earworm territory for me.
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For sure.
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But I did want to learn more about this band since they flew under my radar.
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Since you know, the song is five years old now.
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So Otis is a trio from normal Illinois, and their debut album is called Curve of the Earth, which was released in 2019.
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So the band actually formed in 2004 and did a self-released album in 2008, but Swinson had to go to rehab, and the band went on a very long hiatus.
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And he talks about his experience getting sober.
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And actually, I'm pretty sure Curve of the Earth is about recovery and you know getting over addiction, dealing with things like that.
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I've listened to some of their music, which has been labeled as dark country, and it is pretty dark.
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So there's no surprise that this song, too, is kind of veering into that territory.
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So if you're having a bummer summer and you want something to listen to, maybe check it out.
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And if you're in the mood for a cry, which I was not when I watched this, but I have to recommend the video for Run In, which features an incredibly adorable pit bull, and it literally made me sob.
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You didn't watch it, did you?
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I did.
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Oh my god.
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I know it was hard.
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It was hard.
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I oh man.
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I really cry for like a few minutes after it finished.
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I'm getting upset this year.
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I know, I know.
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I I don't want to get into it.
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Yeah.
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We'll we'll link to it in the show notes.
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Yeah, it was it was sad.
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It was like I got excited because I saw the the still from the video, and I'm like, that dog is so cute.
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Yeah.
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Pretty early on.
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You can tell something bad.
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It's not good.
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I mean, in the end, no spoilers.
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So Steph Chura is not in the band.
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She's an indie musician from Detroit who's currently touring with an opening for Dinosaur Jr., if anyone wants to see her this summer.
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She's also got an album coming out in October called Dancing Alone on the Concrete.
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And she reminds me a little bit of Iris Dement.
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Do you know who that is?
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Okay, like an American folk country singer.
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Okay.
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But it's a really interesting combo, these two voices, the characters they're playing, just kind of the overall darkness and the humor that comes along with it.
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And I do just want to close with this thought that not every summer can be a brat summer.
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And that's okay.
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I'd really love it if any other listeners who might be having a bummer summer can share some tunes with me because I don't necessarily need cheering.
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I might wallow for just a little bit longer.
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Yeah, I welcome the wallow.
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I love a wallow.
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Yeah.
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We need one every now and again.
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But I I appreciate letting me be a little bit self-indulgent in my bummer summer song.
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No, I appreciate learning more about Otis.
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Still, I think that's such a weird name.
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:20.480
It is pretty weird.
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Yeah.
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Especially how they spell it.
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And then, okay, I wanted to ask you about the cover of this album.
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What's the story with the face?
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Because the face is is that it looks like Jesus with Baby Stardust.
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I know.
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I know.
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I don't know either.
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And there was one other song on, it was like an EP, I think.
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It was this song and the other one.
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And the other one was like so bad I couldn't listen to it all the way through.
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I don't know if you listened to it, but like, ooh, I was like, yo, good thing Shotzi was a good Shotzi.
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:49.759
Yeah.
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:51.920
Well, thank you, Christina.
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:53.119
Thank you, Christine.
00:31:53.519 --> 00:32:01.759
And I think I'd like to get into today's unsolicited advice, but it's really more for me than anyone else.
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:02.160
Oh.
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Be open to things you don't like or that you think you don't like.
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I saw that one song recently re-released an episode of Ariana Grande's Seven Rings, and I was gonna skip it, but then I remembered karaoke back in early summer and how you were all singing a song that was fun, and I was surprised to learn it was Ariana Grande.
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And then I realized I don't think I knew a single Ariana Grande song.
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Was that Seven Rings you were all singing?
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It was, and it was Alice, I believe, who was killing it at covering Seven Rings at Karaoke.
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.960
But I'm most of us in the room were singing a lot of things.
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I think so.
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I think you all enjoyed it.
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And I'm like, what is this?
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But I kind of like it.
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Well, I'm still not a fan of Ariana Grande's music in general, but I learned about the song, the writing process with the many other writers, and the various lawsuits associated with it due to copyright infringement.
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And because it's one song, I got to hear the stems, which is always fun.
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And I'm not a better person for listening to the episode, but I know what a Scottish nap is, which is the name for the syncopated musical rhythm where a short accented note is followed by a longer one.
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I did not know that, but now I do.
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My point is, you never know what you'll learn from something you don't think you like, and you might end up actually liking it, even if I didn't, in this case.
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Advice over.
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Christina, any hints for next week?
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Next week we're gonna listen to the sounds of our hometowns.
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