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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this week's episode of Hanging Out with David Pasqualone and Friends.
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Today we have a follow-up episode with Dr. Darren Schmidt.
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Darren, welcome to the show.
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Yeah, thanks for having me.
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I appreciate it.
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Oh, man, we're looking forward to it.
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As many of our listeners around the world listened to your episode, which I'll put a link in the show notes on the Remarkable People Podcast, we discussed what you do in having the test results, the blood drawn, and what you can glean from these reports.
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So ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna do a live good, bad or ugly.
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Darren's gonna talk about what my lab results show and what we can do to improve my health so you know what to expect in your visit.
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So Darren, take it away, my friend.
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Okay, so just as a reminder, this test is called MVX Plus.
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It stands for Metabolic Vulnerability Index, and it measures cellular health.
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This is available nationwide through LabCorp, and it's relatively new.
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It came out January 2025, and it does several things.
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It predicts five-year longevity, and it measures cellular health, as I mentioned.
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It also gives you a score one to 100, and you want your score to be low.
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That's your overall health score.
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So I can just share the screen and we can go over this result.
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So your blood draw for this was September 23rd, 2026, and they reported it two days later.
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So your overall score is 45, and you want that just to be lower.
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And so I've had people whose scores are in the 20s, which is really good, but still within the context of the other numbers, I can see that they have some room for improvement.
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Okay.
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So just interrupt me at any time if you have any questions.
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So there's that overall score, Metabolic Vulnerability Index.
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And then the reference interval from the lab is less than 63, but that doesn't give us much data.
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There's rules that they have to follow, like 75% of the population has to be, quote-unquote, "within normal limits." So that number there is way too high to be, like, the reference interval at 63 or higher.
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So again, yours is at 45.
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Now, the next one is called the Inflammation Vulnerability Index, and that score is a combination of the next two items, which is the first one is Glycation, and then the next one's called Smallest Particle Number.
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So Glycation is infection and/or inflammation, and you want it to be 300 or less, and you're at 419.
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So of all your scores, that's the one that needs the most amount of work, and we can dive into all the details about that.
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And then the other part of the inflammation vulnerability index is small LDL particle number.
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So it's the number of small HDL particles, and those are like the guardian angels of the arteries.
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And your score is fifteen point eight, and you want that score to be like eighteen, nineteen, twenty.
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Twenty-one point six is the high end on that.
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So that is representative of toxicity, loosely related to toxicity.
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It can also drop down due to infection.
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And so those two combined give us your IVX, inflammation vulnerability index, which is forty-four.
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And I've seen that like in the twenties I've seen that even in the teens or even as low as nine.
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So the lowest inflammation you get, you can get down to, the better off you are.
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So you have work to do there.
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Okay, now the next index.
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So there's three indices.
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We already went through two of them, the MVX and IVX.
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The next one's called MMX, metabolic malnutrition index.
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And you want that in the forties.
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So yours is at forty-nine, so that's really good.
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And again, the lower the better.
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So if it was forty-two, that'd be better, but forty-nine is pretty good.
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And so that's a combination of the last four items.
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So you have citrate, valine, leucine, and isoleucine.
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Okay, so here's what they represent.
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Citrate represents mitochondrial function, and you want that score to be one point six to one point nine.
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So you're at one point seven two, so that's really good.
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And then the valine, leucine, and isoleucine, those are called the branched-chain amino acids, and they represent digestion ability, B1 status, protein intake, and can you digest your protein.
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And and these can go haywire from colon problems like ulcerative colitis, for example, chronic diarrhea.
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They can also go haywire if somebody exercises like the day before the blood draw, so you don't want to exercise for one or two days before.
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So let's go over these one by one.
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So the valine and the leucine, they're more related to glycolysis, which is burning sugar.
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And then the leucine is related to a low-carb diet.
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So the leucine will be a bit low on a low-carb diet, which is fine.
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But anyway, so the va-- your valine score is at two fourteen, which is pretty good, and it'd be better if it was like two thirty, but I'm not complaining about your valine at two fourteen at all.
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The leucine could also be a little bit higher, like one forty, one fifty.
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One-- I'll say one thirty to one fifty, and you're at one eleven So you could maybe digest protein better.
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I don't know if you eat a lot of protein or not.
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Now, the isoleucine is a little bit high.
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It should be 55, yours is at 62.
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So can I ask you q- questions about your health and your diet and stuff?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Okay, good.
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So do you eat a lot of protein?
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Yes.
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Okay, good.
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Do you digest it that you know of, or do you have heartburn or stomach pain or bloating or anything like that?
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I notice if I have steak, I'm fine, but if I have steak two or three days in a row, I have a hard time digesting.
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And then if I have certain foods I don't have heartburn like I used to have, but if I do eat late and go to bed on a full stomach and had a bunch of protein, it is harder for me to digest because I feel it when I sleep.
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Yeah, so what do you feel at that moment when you're trying to sleep but your stomach's full?
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What do you feel?
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It just feels Like sluggish and full and even sometimes hard to breathe.
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Yeah, that.
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So that's the hard to breathe feeling is like the pressure coming up.
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Yeah the upper stomach problems.
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But then if you had steak three days in a row, then you'd have constipation maybe?
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Yeah, I don't think it's constipation, but it'll- Yeah… I might not go a day 'cause it's digesting, and then the next day I'll go, more.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Got it.
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So there's a little bit- So I think that's what happens, like if when I say that if I have a problem or if I eat too much steak or if I eat too much food of something I'm not constipated, I just skip a day, and then the next day I'll go two or three times instead of just once or whatever, yeah.
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I think that's fine.
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Yeah, I think that's fine.
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But it sounds like you have a little bit of something going on with your digestion.
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You should be able to not have that pressure feeling- Yeah … like if you eat or something.
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Anyway, so the main supplement to fix a lot of digestive problems like that would be vitamin B1, high dose synthetic B1, especially benfotiamine.
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So again, that's how that, the valine, leucine, and isoleucine can be corrected or improved upon by adding in the B1.
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But the, but with your scores, like your MMX being at 49, pretty good.
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Not a big deal at all, but it's the Glycation A. That's a problem.
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So- Now, let me ask you a question just for our listeners and for you.
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I did, I fasted for this blood test, but I ate almost at midnight, and I had the
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00 AM.
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Was there supposed to be a longer fast, or is that, was that eight hours enough?
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It should be like 10 to 12 hours, but- Okay, so I kind of- … if you waited-… screwed that up for everybody.
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Sorry- No, you're- … ladies and gentlemen… not really.
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Not really.
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Okay.
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'Cause if you waited two more hours, your Glycation A would still be really high.
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Okay, and the Glycation A is inflammation?
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And/or infection and/or trauma Okay, yeah, I got a lot of that going on.
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I've been having a lot of problems with, I have something going on, whether it's my teeth or gums.
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Yeah.
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I got something going on with my lower back, and my allergies are off the chart.
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For my listeners, they can hear me, the difference in other episodes.
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So this whole season has been pretty rough.
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Do you think that's what's causing that to be elevated or something else?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So the the allergies for sure, and then what's going on with your teeth and gums?
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I- we don't know.
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I've been to two dentists, an oral surgeon.
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I got another periodontal.
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When I was 18, when I was 19, I had radiation therapy, so they don't think it's connected, but we're trying to, look at all the options and see what's going on.
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But I just have this pain when you touch my gums behind my tooth, and it's… I don't know what caused it.
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It just started in mid-July, and it's got thankfully better than it was, but it's still there, and sometimes it gets really bad, and sometimes it's just annoying and there if I think about it.
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But that's one issue.
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And then my lower back's been going off.
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So I just got some weird things happening.
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So to see that up, I don't question it at all.
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But my next question to you as a doctor is what do I do to treat it?
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What do I do to make myself as healthy as possible?
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Yeah, so you have to g- get into the details of the conditions you're talking about.
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Have you had a cone beam of your jaw?
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That's a 3D X-ray of your- Yeah … of your jaw.
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Yeah, I had all that done.
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They're seeing- And there- There was like a- And there's no infection?
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Huh?
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No, that's what's weird.
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They even shoved granules in, antibiotic granules in.
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I did a mouthwash antibiotics.
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I did oral antibiotics.
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I did steroids.
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Okay, so wait, they found a pocket?
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You, do you have an infection in your teeth or in your jaw?
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No, they found a little… Oh, man, I don't know how to explain it.
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They found like a little… They said maybe there was some bone loss, like a, a little like tu- like tube or granule, but they don't know what caused… i'm like rambling In behind where my gums are, they found like a little, like area that has some bone loss.
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Yeah.
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So to be safe, they shoved granules up there, if- Okay… that makes sense.
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But there was no sign of infection.
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Okay, so- But when I touch my tooth, it doesn't necessarily hurt, but when I touch the gums behind it, it's like lights me up.
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And this all came out of nowhere mid-July.
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Okay.
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Like even right now talking to you, it hurts.
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Okay.
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And you've been using an antibiotic mouthwash you said?
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I, yeah, I did that for, I'm not continuously, but I did that for two weeks.
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Yeah.
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Didn't do anything.
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Did steroids, didn't do anything.
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Maybe it did a little.
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And then the, what's happening that helps is I've been rubbing clove and frankincense essential oils on it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I do that every day, like twice a day.
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Yeah.
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And it k- just numbs it up, but there's definitely an issue.
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So I was getting ready to pull the tooth, and right before that the oral surgeon's like, "Wait, we need to get your old records from the radiation to make sure, you'll heal and recover from it." And then this, which, thank God I will, but then there's also, he's like let's see a par-," I think it's periodontist to check the gums.
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Yeah.
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So maybe it's not even the tooth, but what we think is there's like a crack in the tooth, and it's just radiating pain.
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Oh, okay.
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So the main causes of chronic illness are infection, toxin, and malnutrition.
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So if there's, if it's just a crack in the tooth, that'd be like a malnutrition thing.
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That's how I would see it.
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Like the need for bone minerals and protein, and there's supplements that, where people make recipes for a supplement to heal teeth.
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You've heard of that before?
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Wait, repeat that last part.
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There's supplements that are designed to heal teeth.
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I didn't know that.
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If you got them- Yeah … I'll, let's take them.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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There's one, there's a company called Standard Process.
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They make a product called Bio-Dent.
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And there's another company called Ortho Molecular.
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They make a product called OsteoPrev to build bones, right?
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And teeth are like fancy bones.
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So if you, if it's only a crack, then you just take in the nutrients to heal that.
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If there's an infection I use, Of course, I'm a big fan of going to the right dentist, and if you've already tried antibiotics or antibiotic mouthwash those antimicrobial herbs that you mentioned right there on the gum would be very powerful.
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They should absorb in.
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And if it's a toxin, like radiation therapy, like that's pretty toxic, so there's like detox products for that.
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There's a product called Virad Chem Binder from CellCore to detox radiation.
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Yeah, it's been 30 years, but I had 4,000 rads roughly.
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Yeah.
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And that's why… He was just being extra safe to make sure, which I thank him for.
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Yeah.
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But, Yeah… yeah like I said, I'm open.
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And ladies and gentlemen, like I said, I do have a complex medical history, so Dr. Schmidt, I'm not trying to make your life more complicated on camera.
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But the other thing is you mentioned syn- synthetic vitamins.
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Yeah.
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I can't do synthetic vitamins because I have that MHTRF, whatever it's called.
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MTHFR.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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B1's different.
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Vitamin B1's a different subject.
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Yeah, I just know that when I got tested- Yeah … there's something with my blood brain barrier, and it said- Yeah … like I know certain things I can't do.
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I just now I have a document that says it, but, no, but the benfotiamine B1 is totally fine for you to take, even if you're MTHFR.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Yeah, the MTHFR doesn't apply to B1 Okay All right.
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So allergies, have you had allergies for years?
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Yeah, my whole life.
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Environmental allergies.
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I'm allergic to shellfish, and I'm allergic to one antibiotic that I know of, clindamycin.
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Yeah.
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It's like an oral… A dentist gave it to me.
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Okay.
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So what about seasonal allergies, like spring and fall?
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Yep, 100%.
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I'm really bad- Is it all year or just spring and fall?
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If I touch trees or grass, it's year-round, but it flares up in August, September every year.
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So right now, we just had a hurricane, so I think it stirred more stuff up.
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So right now I've been… It's been extra fun.
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Okay.
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You've had this seasonal allergies even when you were, like, 10 years old?
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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So I'm gonna say something that a lot of people would debate, but I… When I think of season- And I've treated tens of thousands of patients.
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I reverse complex chronic illness using only diet and supplements.
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Here's my assessment on seasonal allergies.
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Number one, it's organisms, plural, hiding out in the sinuses, and it could be bacteria, virus, candida, mold, or parasites.
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And I'm always going after parasites first because parasites harbor candida, mold, virus, bacteria, and metals, and chemicals.
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And I've had a lot of patients blow parasites out of their nose, including myself.
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I've had three come out of my nose.
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I use a product called Para 3 from CellCore Biosciences.
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It is absolutely fantastic.
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And and then after that you might need some antimicrobial clove or oregano or, combination herbal products that are antimicrobial And s- and then as opposed to just taking Benadryl all the time like an antihistamine.
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So if you really wanna clean these sinuses out and make the seasonal allergies go away forever, you gotta really clean all that garbage out.
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And I used to have seasonal allergies, and I haven't had them now for, what, 10 or 12 years, 'cause I fixed them up 100%.
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So there's that.
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So you- That would be a dream come true.
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Yeah, so when you have infections, whether it's teeth, sinuses, or in the ears saliva can be infected, and you… That leaves the, excuse me, it leaves here, the head, it goes down the throat into the body, causing systemic disease.
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So it can leave via the arteries, blood, lymphatic system down the ears, Eustachian tubes, down the throat, down the neck, and then just swallowing.
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So those are the four ways that these infections here go down in the body causing… I've seen chronic ear infections cause chronic UTIs, and I have people fix up their ears using peppermint, like a super strong peppermint oil, essential oil.
00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:06.232
Also that Pera 3 supplement that I mentioned, it's a liquid.
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I have people put that on their finger and put it in their ear like that and behind their ear, and that clears up bloating in the stomach because… And I had… One time I had a woman, she was on the double lung transplant list at University of Michigan Hospital.
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She had the nastiest cough.
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And I d- I do this biofeedback muscle testing procedure, and I found that her ears were a problem.
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And I said to her, "Do you have a c- a postnasal drip going down the back of your throat?" She goes, "Yeah, all the time." So I said, "Your problem is your ears." So she treated her ears, and over the course of six or more months it cleaned up her lungs, and she got off that double lung transplant list.
00:17:47.940 --> 00:17:55.846
So I'm saying this because there might be a relationship with the s- the stomach problems, and maybe even low back pain.
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So the… If these problems don't go away on their own, like taking B1 or doing other therapies, maybe you got a little bit of the sinus issues here dripping down into your body.
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah.
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No, I… Absolutely.
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And For me, if I… I just had a bunch of medical tests run.
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As- according to, mainstream science, I'm perfectly healthy aside from my blood pressure, and my blood pressure got high, so I actually got on blood pressure medicine, which I freaking hate the fact I'm on medicine, but it was just getting to a dangerous place, so now I'm on this till I can figure it out.
00:18:35.768 --> 00:18:39.925
Would whatever's going on in my sinuses cause blood pressure increase?
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Yes.
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When your glyc A is 300, the blood pressure will be normal I had a, I had high blood pressure when I had mold in 2016, and then I had blood pressure again when I had a t- a gas leak at my house in 2024.
00:18:58.746 --> 00:19:01.586
So toxins and infections cause high blood pressure.
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Toxins and infections cause, you name it, heart disease, cancer, autoimmune disease, aging, fatigue.
00:19:11.433 --> 00:19:19.967
It's infections, toxins, malnutrition, and that's what this test measures, infections, toxins, malnutrition, and then mitochondrial dysfunction.
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Yeah.
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So to me, as a patient, I'm thinking my sinuses, my allergies, my ears, all that stuff, I know I got an issue there.
00:19:28.300 --> 00:19:28.729
Yeah.
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My stomach has been really good and my digestion overall- Yeah … and then my blood pressure.
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Like those… So it would be like my sinuses and my blood pressure.
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Yeah.
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So if I was coming to you, that's what I'd wanna work on, unless you say something else.
00:19:42.217 --> 00:19:45.146
Yeah, the thing is, what's causing your blood pressure?
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Yeah.
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I've had people reduce their blood pressure by just going on the keto diet.
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I've had people reduce their blood pressure by getting rid of all the mold out of their body.
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Other people have gotten rid of their blood pressure by getting rid of, infections in their gut.
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Their bloating went away, their digestion works better.
00:20:03.986 --> 00:20:08.044
Their… You j- you wanna improve your health, and then symptoms go away.
00:20:08.551 --> 00:20:13.715
So in allopathic medicine, which is what we have, we're trained, we have symptoms.
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We want the symptoms to go away, so the doctors treat your symptom to make you happy, to make the symptom go away.
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Yeah.
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And in my perspective with the way that I, address healthcare, it's a different perspective.
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The perspective is increase your health by detoxing, organisms and toxins, and then nourish, and we watch and we see what symptoms go away, and it can take six months to a year and a half, two years.
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So if somebody has metabolic syndrome, which, they're eating junk food and now they're overweight, now they have fatty liver, now they have high blood pressure, like, all that is a low… you want a low-carb keto style diet.
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That's… Th- so there's I call it the seven-step blueprint to optimal health.
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So there's seven steps to get your health back.
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So step one is diet.
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Step two is drainage.
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That means you're not constipated.
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It means your kidneys are working well, lymphatic system, liver, even sinuses, drainage.
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And then step, the next step is, Wait, I… Back up.
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So s- step one is diet.
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Step two is mitochondrial function, which is citrate, and that's B1 primarily.
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And then step three is drainage.
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Step four is cleaning out the intestines, and that'd be related to glycae.
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Step five is cleaning out all kinds of organisms from head to toe.
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And so like that means toenail fungus, skin rash.
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That could be any kind of organisms hiding out in the sinuses.
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Bloating, that's candida.
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People carry five or six different infections in their body and they get Benadryl, they get Gas-X, they get… They're treating their symptoms, right?
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But you gotta eliminate those organisms.
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And then after step five, there's step six, which is detox, and that's related to the small cell particle number.
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And then step seven is intracellular cleansing, which is like Lyme disease.
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So then that's healing the body.
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Do you see what I'm saying?
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As opposed to treating the symptoms with medications, you get the difference there?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Getting to the root cause is always the key, not just treating the symptoms.
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Yeah.
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So that's why it's like, whether it's me or one of our listeners, where do we start in this process based on these results?
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It's the seven steps.
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So step one is diet.
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But looking at yours, you're, you said you're eating a low carb diet, right?
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You're not eating sugar, right?
00:22:29.173 --> 00:22:30.457
Oh, no, I eat trash.
00:22:30.510 --> 00:22:36.721
I eat, not trash, but I'll eat good food- Yeah … and then I'll grab a cupcake or, or I'll have a sweet tea.
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So- So I am eating sugar How often?
00:22:41.598 --> 00:22:42.555
Oh, probably every day.
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Okay.
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So that's step one, the diet.
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So you gotta cut that out.
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Yeah.
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I know when I switched to a low- and that alone- … low sodium What's that?
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Low sodium, I never watched sodium my whole life.
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Yeah.
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And when I started watching sodium, I, without trying, in a week I lost 12 pounds and my blood pressure went down.
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When was that?
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Just a couple months ago.
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Wow.
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That's awesome.
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Yeah.
00:23:07.523 --> 00:23:10.669
So sodium I think is a big deal for my body for some reason.
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Like more so than others, yeah, so- Like 12 pounds in a week without trying, that was a lot of weight.
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Yeah.
00:23:16.068 --> 00:23:17.457
So here's the deal though with your diet.
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When you're eating sugar and carbs, that makes your body, the insulin goes up, and then you start retaining water and salt.
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Therefore, water and salt.
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When you go on a keto diet, the insulin drops, that makes your body lose water and salt.
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So that's why you're sup- you might have a genetic issue there, but you're probably super sensitive to salt because of the high carb diet So that's like a known thing like in the low carb community.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So now the sugar and the carbs will make the glyc A go up.
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And then having, just like extra fat, I don't know like what your weight is, but- Yeah, I'm probably 30 pounds overweight.
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I should be walking around at 185, and I'm about 215.
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Okay.
00:24:11.211 --> 00:24:17.471
So just having fat cells in your body like the white fat, it's metabolically detrimental.
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It's inflammatory.
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Just having extra… like the bigger white fat cells, that's contributing to high glyc A. So the… it's a picture of like here's the things that you do.
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You clean up your diet of the carbs and sugar, and then you clean out your sinuses of any kind of organisms hanging out, and clean up whatever ha- is happening with your tooth, fix that.
00:24:40.332 --> 00:24:45.229
And then regarding your low back, have you had low back pain like chronically or is that a new thing?
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:50.467
No, it flares up and down since I was in my 20s.
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Yeah.
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But the, Recently it just flared, right around the same time my tooth flared up in July, I had my back and my lower left side of my back and my tooth hurting at the same time.
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So I was just in a lot of pain and discomfort.
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Yeah.
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So you might be surprised when you cut out all the sugar how your pain reduces and your body starts to heal,'cause sugar's very inflammatory.
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Yeah, no I believe it.
00:25:16.510 --> 00:25:16.906
Yeah.
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All right.
00:25:17.596 --> 00:25:22.423
So basically clean up my diet, and then see how that goes.
00:25:23.056 --> 00:25:26.589
And then when you say treat the sinuses, how do you do that?
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Is it like a nose douche or, swish something up there, or what do you do with that?
00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:31.672
Yeah.
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Yep.
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I'm a big fan of that.
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So the, you can buy a neti pot really cheap where you put water in there and you have to tilt your head over.
00:25:40.836 --> 00:25:43.800
But I'm a big fan of Navage, and that's a mechanical neti pot.
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So it has a little water pump and it puts water up one nostril and sucks it out the other.
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So in that water there's some salt just to make it soft on your mucosal membranes.
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And then I use this Para 3 liquid.
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I put about five drops in there.
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Yeah, and then it cleans out those sinuses really well.
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And so when I did it a few years ago, I did it about 30 times.
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I did it about twice a week.
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I did a, a total of 30 times, and man, the first couple times I did it I had tremendous amounts of stuff coming out, and it was phenomenal.
00:26:17.224 --> 00:26:19.776
And then I haven't done it in probably two years or whatever.
00:26:19.776 --> 00:26:23.865
I don't even know, but it's been a long time just 'cause my sinuses are in really good shape.
00:26:24.980 --> 00:26:38.037
Yeah, I had surgery about- I have blue ProHealth out of my nose… I had surgery about five years ago the surgeries I had when I was 19, everything was reconstructed from the tumor that s- they removed.
00:26:38.681 --> 00:26:42.238
And then, but I basically went my whole life not being able to breathe through my nose properly.
00:26:42.596 --> 00:26:49.968
So I just had that redone, but before the surgery I couldn't, I could put stuff in but it wouldn't come out.
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It wouldn't drain.
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So now maybe that, the N- Navage or neti pot would work a lot better for me because it can come out.
00:26:57.415 --> 00:27:04.651
Before it would just go in and make my head full Yeah, that's important to be able to make that come out Yeah.
00:27:05.422 --> 00:27:05.692
Yeah.
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All right.
00:27:06.191 --> 00:27:09.295
And you said the Navage is the blow and suck machine?
00:27:10.758 --> 00:27:11.195
Yep.
00:27:11.458 --> 00:27:13.664
Yeah, it's, like it's at Walmart and stuff.
00:27:13.871 --> 00:27:16.093
It's 100 bu- it's just north of 100 bucks.
00:27:17.088 --> 00:27:17.538
Okay.
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All right.
00:27:18.838 --> 00:27:19.027
Yeah.
00:27:19.311 --> 00:27:23.224
So step one is clean up the diet, lose my fat, 'cause I'm way overweight.
00:27:23.473 --> 00:27:27.012
Two, get the neti pot or Navage going.
00:27:27.384 --> 00:27:31.513
And then did you say there's a supplement to put in with it besides a salt solution?
00:27:32.336 --> 00:27:34.959
Yeah, it's called Para 3 from CellCore.
00:27:34.980 --> 00:27:36.817
It's a very strong herbal product.
00:27:37.587 --> 00:27:40.077
And I can get that through your website, or where do I get that?
00:27:41.172 --> 00:27:46.343
Yeah, right now mother natures shop dot com is where you get that from.
00:27:47.242 --> 00:27:47.693
Okay.
00:27:48.441 --> 00:27:51.391
So I do those two things, and what's the next step you'd recommend?
00:27:52.767 --> 00:27:54.739
I want to back up a little bit on the diet.
00:27:55.057 --> 00:28:02.272
So I'm a fan of a low carb diet, but when people are trying to lose weight, also do low fat.
00:28:02.538 --> 00:28:06.515
So it's like a high protein and lower carb and lower fat diet.
00:28:06.962 --> 00:28:12.028
So the more protein you eat, the more satisfied you are, and you end up eating less fat and carbs.
00:28:12.855 --> 00:28:12.886
Okay.
00:28:12.886 --> 00:28:29.535
So it's not just about being… 'Cause I was lo- I've been low carb my whole, since 1999, and in 2018, 2019 I was very carnivore, so super low carb for a whole year, but yet I gained 10 pounds'cause I was eating super fatty meat.
00:28:30.251 --> 00:28:34.310
So some people say that they eat s- really fatty meat and they don't gain weight.
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That's good for them.
00:28:35.835 --> 00:28:36.741
Everybody's different.
00:28:37.434 --> 00:28:39.596
And, and I was happy to gain the 10 pounds.
00:28:40.497 --> 00:28:45.469
But I'm, it's just a proof that just because you're eating low carb doesn't mean it works for you to lose weight.
00:28:45.912 --> 00:28:50.984
So that's why I say low carb and low fat while eating high protein, so it's gonna be lean meat.
00:28:51.674 --> 00:28:52.028
Yeah.
00:28:52.076 --> 00:28:58.784
And I want to lose fat and gain muscle, so I'm not- Yeah … hung up about how much I weigh on the scale, I just want to be good weight, right?
00:28:59.143 --> 00:28:59.663
Yeah.
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What about- Yeah.
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Oh, go ahead.
00:29:01.888 --> 00:29:02.442
No, go ahead.
00:29:02.814 --> 00:29:07.584
No, I was gonna say almost every time I eat, it, this might be just a psychological programming, right?
00:29:08.402 --> 00:29:10.344
Or is it something physiological?
00:29:10.398 --> 00:29:19.951
Every time I eat, afterwards I want chocolate or coffee or chocolate and/or coffee, and that's something that's been going on the last few years.
00:29:20.338 --> 00:29:35.691
So if I eat a meal, I instantly want chocolate and coffee, and I've had several, like one of my best friends They were telling me that's something that my body's probably craving'cause it's deficient, or is it just'cause I'm a fatty and I'm craving it'cause I want the lust of the flesh?
00:29:38.561 --> 00:29:42.653
There's something deficient, and- No, I'm wondering… Oh, there is something deficient.
00:29:43.105 --> 00:29:43.692
Yeah.
00:29:44.601 --> 00:29:45.121
Yeah.
00:29:45.141 --> 00:29:51.741
So one thing about c- chocolate is that- And I always have dark chocolate, just so you know.
00:29:51.741 --> 00:29:52.776
It's always dark chocolate.
00:29:53.193 --> 00:29:53.660
Yeah.
00:29:53.925 --> 00:29:57.055
So chocolate ha- okay, chocolate has cannabinoids in it.
00:29:57.778 --> 00:30:02.057
So you've heard marijuana's got whatever th- there's one cannabinoid people talk about.
00:30:02.546 --> 00:30:06.375
But they- we've, we know that there's over 125 different types of cannabinoids.
00:30:07.067 --> 00:30:14.392
Cannabinoids are nutrients that are found in marijuana first, and then second is chocolate.
00:30:15.122 --> 00:30:20.311
And it helps the limbic system, which is related to your body's ability to function.
00:30:20.907 --> 00:30:22.766
And chocolate can be considered a health food.
00:30:22.776 --> 00:30:24.644
Dark chocolate, I'm totally fine with that.
00:30:24.991 --> 00:30:26.954
100% fine with you eating dark chocolate.
00:30:27.631 --> 00:30:32.105
But we, if you don't have cravings if you, if your cravings are gone, that means you're healthier.
00:30:32.578 --> 00:30:34.373
And then the same thing with ca- coffee.
00:30:34.374 --> 00:30:41.741
I don't know if you're craving caffeine or the flavor or what kind of effect you get when you consume that coffee.
00:30:42.307 --> 00:30:46.692
So I don't ever, I've never, I don't get energy from coffee.
00:30:46.700 --> 00:30:48.555
Actually, sometimes it actually makes me sleepier.
00:30:48.904 --> 00:30:59.517
It's just- Yeah… I crave it, and then it's just But I'm not one of the people like,"I need it to think or to stay awake." I just kind of- … like it.
00:30:59.538 --> 00:31:08.142
But I have noticed, like after a meal, I'll want to have a, a, a cup of coffee and a cigar or, and chocolate, like all the time.
00:31:08.326 --> 00:31:14.009
So I'm thinking- Yeah … did I just build this up in my head and it's like conditioned response, or is it actually- No.
00:31:14.009 --> 00:31:15.127
No, it's physiological.
00:31:15.567 --> 00:31:16.915
So here's my answer to that.
00:31:17.384 --> 00:31:24.695
So I've been a fan of the carnivore diet since 2018, and the more meat people eat, the less cravings people have.
00:31:25.307 --> 00:31:27.930
That includes all kinds of cravings and addictions.
00:31:28.525 --> 00:31:30.172
So food is just one of them.
00:31:30.172 --> 00:31:33.244
Food and drink, and cigarettes, and gambling, and all these things.
00:31:33.865 --> 00:31:38.269
Those are, Those addictions are mitigated on a carnivore diet.
00:31:38.827 --> 00:31:46.683
So if you, when you cut out sugar and high, and grains, you end up with meat, vegetables, and some fruit.
00:31:47.496 --> 00:31:49.298
You'll see these cravings go away.
00:31:49.715 --> 00:31:50.796
That's my answer to that.
00:31:51.546 --> 00:31:53.846
The more carnivore you are, the faster it'll happen.
00:31:54.970 --> 00:31:55.280
Huh.
00:31:55.567 --> 00:31:55.805
All right.
00:31:55.805 --> 00:32:00.882
And is there a carnivore diet you recommend, or is it just like you said, vegetables, a few fruits, and meat?
00:32:02.491 --> 00:32:03.657
Yeah, it's just that simple.
00:32:03.695 --> 00:32:04.948
It's not complicated at all.
00:32:05.198 --> 00:32:13.156
Just eat a… For my first year of being carnivore, 2019, I had one rule, and that was eat as much meat as I possibly can every day.
00:32:14.330 --> 00:32:23.691
I did that for a year, and then after that I changed the rule: eat as much meat as I need for the day So it ended up being a little bit less.
00:32:24.698 --> 00:32:29.032
And then I have- No, I've heard people say that if you eat too much meat, it actually causes inflammation.
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Is that a lie, or is that truth, or is that just depends on the person?
00:32:31.789 --> 00:32:36.364
It's, no, it's not… it can, I can see that being true for some people who can't digest it.
00:32:37.260 --> 00:32:53.193
But the, there's a study done on the keto diet, this is back in 2018 or earlier, and they found that it was the the least, or I'm sorry, the most anti-inflammatory diet compared to any other diet.
00:32:53.928 --> 00:32:55.713
So it's super healing.
00:32:56.798 --> 00:33:06.285
And there's another study that, there's amazing studies that have come out just this year talking about ultra-processed food, which is refined sugar, refined oils, refined flour.
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And they kept the calories the same, and these people had… And the micronutrients were the same.
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The fat, protein, and carbs, and calories were all the same in these two groups.
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But one group had whole foods, the other group had ultra-processed food.
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And the people that had ultra-processed food, they didn't lose the weight, even though all the macros were the same.
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And then there's another study showing how regardless of LDL cholesterol, people on ultra-processed food had more heart disease, even though everything else would be, like, the same.
00:33:41.348 --> 00:33:49.352
So it's just the pure ultra-processed food that causes inflammation and high LDL, like heart disease and chronic disease.
00:33:50.165 --> 00:33:55.346
So All right You with me on that?
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Yeah.
00:33:56.508 --> 00:33:57.855
So where do we go from here?
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What is… If people are listening, they're going through the same experience with you or one of your team members, what's the next step from here?
00:34:06.256 --> 00:34:11.317
So after the diet, after the sinuses are cleaned up, then find out what's happening with your back.
00:34:11.318 --> 00:34:15.164
So it's gone up and down over the course of many years.
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To me, that sounds like you have some kind of a nutri- nutritional problem.
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Infection, toxicity, malnutrition.
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Something, one of those three affecting your back.
00:34:26.097 --> 00:34:28.543
And otherwise you would be healed, right?
00:34:29.353 --> 00:34:37.715
So that could be… Once you clean up your diet and fix up your sinuses, your back could be really good again.
00:34:38.737 --> 00:34:55.536
And if it's not, then we do the biofeedback muscle testing technique to find out what's going on with your back and f- and discover are you deficient in, nutrient, building block nutrients like glucosamine sulfate, chondroitin sulfate, or do you have some toxin hiding out there?
00:34:56.527 --> 00:34:56.952
Yeah.
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So that's to be discovered.
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Okay.
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All right.
00:35:03.989 --> 00:35:06.632
And you've been through physical therapy for that or chiropractic?
00:35:06.635 --> 00:35:07.998
You've done some body work for that?
00:35:08.592 --> 00:35:09.855
Yeah, I've done everything.
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Ice, stretching, deep tissue massage.
00:35:12.869 --> 00:35:14.659
That all helps for sure.
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Yeah.
00:35:15.423 --> 00:35:21.498
And at one point, they said I had a couple ruptured discs, but it just comes and goes.
00:35:21.498 --> 00:35:24.961
And obviously when I'm working out, it's less of an issue.
00:35:25.402 --> 00:35:27.733
It's when I don't work out, it becomes more of an issue.
00:35:28.088 --> 00:35:43.204
But this flare- Yeah … up was just, quote, unquote, "out of the blue", but so was the teeth pain, so I started thinking, "Is it connected?" So and then my sinuses, obviously the more pressure in the sinus, my… Like right now, my head's congested, my sinus is congested, my ears hurt a little, my tooth hurts a little.
00:35:43.204 --> 00:35:49.974
It's all connected, so I just wanna find the cause- Yeah … the root cause and find healing Right.
00:35:50.777 --> 00:35:53.032
Yeah, you got some work to do cleaning here.
00:35:53.454 --> 00:35:54.315
But let me tell you a story.
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So one of my practitioners, her husband is a tennis pro, so he teaches tennis, and he had tennis elbow, right?
00:36:03.362 --> 00:36:16.157
His elbow hurt, and he tried all kinds of body work and acupuncture and supplements and… So what happened was her father passed away, and they live out of the country.
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So right before this, right before she got this news, she had purchased three pounds of liver, and so she cooked it.
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Like sh- she's getting ready to leave to fly out, and she had this three, fresh liver.
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She cooked it, gave it to her husband and two sons, and was like, "Here, eat this." She was gone for a week, and he said within three days his elbow pain was completely gone.
00:36:45.152 --> 00:36:55.635
So I had another patient who, he was in a car accident in 1990, broke his back, and he was paralyzed for about three months, but then he recovered.
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And he owns a tool and die shop with his brother, and he had pain going from his feet up to his back every day.
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He stood at the… he wasn't doing executive work.
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He was doing the labor.
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And so every… He worked seven days a week, and for 25 years, he had nine out of 10 pain going from his feet up to his back.
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I told him this story about the liver.
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And and he was eating a carnivore diet.
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He was eating one steak a day for dinner, and that was it for a year and a half.
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It didn't touch his pain.
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So I said, "Instead of eating one steak a day, I want you to eat a pound of liver for dinner, and that's it." And by the end of the week, his pain was gone.
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And over the course of six months- Wow … he would be able to… It's wild.
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This is the wildest story.
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Yeah.
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After a few weeks, he stopped the liver consumption, and the pain came back in a day and a half, two days.
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But then four months later, he stopped the liver, and the pain came back four or five days later.
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Then six months later, he stopped it for a week, and then the pain would come back.
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So the liver not only got rid of all the pain, but it was actually healing his nervous system and his skelet- the musculoskeletal system.
00:38:11.268 --> 00:38:15.483
So having said that, liver is the most important food for human beings.
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It's always been a sacred food amongst traditional tribes going back centuries.
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And then red meat is next, and then white meat is after that.
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So- You know what?
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Yeah.
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I'm being totally serious.
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But- I don't know if I've ever in my life ate liver I'm not saying it's bad, but I've had pain my whole life and medical issues my whole life, 'cause I remember my mom, she refused to make it or cook it.
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Yeah.
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And then in my adult life, I don't think I've ever had it.
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So I think I'm gonna go to Publix or the grocery store- Yeah … and get some liver, see what happens.
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Yeah.
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So you gotta know how to cook it.
00:38:56.833 --> 00:38:57.650
How do you cook it?
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It's high heat, and you have, When I do it, I put onions down first, and the onions caramelize, right?
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They turn brown and sweet.
00:39:08.253 --> 00:39:11.532
So you put the li- and the liver, like beef liver is a thin strip.
00:39:12.547 --> 00:39:15.686
So you throw it down on top of that for what, like a minute?
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And then you flip it over.
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May- maybe one to three minutes I'll say per side.
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But you don't wanna make it too rubbery, right?
00:39:24.673 --> 00:39:26.251
So you're just getting it a little bit brown.
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And then I use gravy.
00:39:29.170 --> 00:39:39.295
But to make your life easy… And it's super fast, but to make your life easy, I always go to a Ger- there's a German restaurant up the road, and I get chicken liver or I get beef liver.
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Every time I go there I… not every time, but a lot of times I get liver there I'm gonna try it.
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It is- I'm gonna see what happens.
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Yeah.
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That'd be great if that's all, if that was a big helper.
00:39:50.262 --> 00:39:53.523
Oh, it's definitely a big- And the more you eat, the better off you are, for sure.
00:39:54.362 --> 00:39:54.570
Huh.
00:39:54.583 --> 00:39:57.922
Yeah, and livers, and liver supplements, like liver glandulars, they don't cut it.
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It's not good enough.
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Yeah, I can see that.
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Yeah.
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You gotta get the pounds of liver.
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All right.
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It's been super informative, and now I got some definite action steps to take.
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Anything else before we wrap this up?
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Would be in a normal session, and then also we're gonna transition to how can our listeners get ahold of you and your team?
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So like in a normal session?
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No, I think we covered all that.
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We covered everything related to your MVX score.
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Okay.
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And then when it comes to our listeners and getting ahold of you so they can run their own tests and follow up with you, what's the best way to reach you, Doc?
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The website is the nutritionalhealingcenter.com.
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And then from there you can actually order MVX Plus without even talking to us.
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There's a button on the upper right corner of the website called MVX Test.
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You can call the office, and everybody at my office is super friendly, and have them help you out.
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And then w- And then the, th- then you get the score, and n- now you have a game.
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The game is make your score better, and it'll guide you down the right path, and then you can track progress.
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So I have my patients run it every two months so we know it's working.
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So I know that my therapies are working, and I know that the patient's lifestyle choices are working, and it's like this is the greatest blood test for humanity.
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So it measures, guides, and tracks your health improvement.
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And then as you get healthier, symptoms go away, right?
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And you get younger, and you can actually physically see in your blood that you're younger because they've tracked the five-year mortality rate depending on that overall score.
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And then you can also see if you're malnourished in your blood.
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And the test is cheap I charge $49 for it.
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That's it So for the listeners, they're gonna go to your website, book the test, and then once they get the results, they can book a c- consulting call with you or your team, and then from there you put together a plan.
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Is that correct?
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Yeah.
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So we have like a… It's… We don't go visit by visit like if you go see a medical doctor.
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We have a plan that's, It starts three, with a three to six-month membership, and then after that it goes to a per visit fee, right?
00:42:23.268 --> 00:42:27.172
So like we're in we're reversing complex chronic illness.
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And like I said at the beginning, it's six months to two years.
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And so if somebody says I wanna just get one reading," like we… I think we have that opportunity, like you can just get one visit.
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We're… Our job is to guide people to actually get results, you know what I'm saying?
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We have that responsibility to get results.
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So if I come to you and I say, "Doc, I want my blood pressure healthy and normal.
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I wanna see that nice 120 over 75 or whatever it is, and then I wanna get my allergies under control.
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That would be a dream come true to not have allergies anymore, and then to not have this pressure in my face, storms come by and I start getting a headache." How, where would that start in your plan?
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That would be a six-month subscription?
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Pr- yeah, me- six-month membership.
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So I have seven other practitioners in my office, and their fees are less than mine 'cause I'm the guy like on social media, so people call and they ask for me.
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I only see patients two days a week, but my other providers are three and four days a week.
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So their fees are one third to two, two thirds less than mine.
00:43:32.166 --> 00:43:40.996
So anyways, yeah, there's a wide variety of membership options and pricing, and we match you up with the right person, right?
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We try to match you up as best we can personality wise and what your goals are.
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So her name is… My person that does that is Priscilla.
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We also have Liz, but yeah, so just call the office and see if you see what we can do for you.
00:43:55.492 --> 00:43:57.510
So for me it would be Priscilla or Liz.
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But Priscilla you said?
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Yeah, to talk to, to find out like if you would work best with me or one of my other pr- practitioners.
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Gotcha.
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If you want to- Yeah yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like clearly I'm not going through menopause, so you don't… There's an expert for that.
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I'm don't need that.
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But you're saying for sinuses and allergies and what I'm dealing with, that would be the expert for me.
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Yeah, we all improve health, and we all have… Like diet is easy and sinuses are easy and back pain is easy.
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But if s- if a woman comes in- That's great to hear,' cause I've been struggling But if we have a menopausal woman calling Liz or s- or Priscilla, and they're like… And Priscilla would say maybe not see Dr. Schmidt, maybe see one of the other practitioners," 'cause they're all female, so Yeah, but we all get rid of parasites, we all get rid… we all talk about teeth and mouth.
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We all talk about all the things that are important for improving health.
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We all run MVX Plus.
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Yeah, and like- And you can be- … I know you, you've been on the show twice, so I feel comfortable with you, but you can only see so many people.
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There's only so many hours in the day, so- … yeah.
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Yeah.
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Awesome.
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Awesome.
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Before we wrap up this episode, anything else you want to add to the conversation or share with our listeners, Darren?
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No, not really.
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I think we're all set.
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All right.
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Thank you for being here.
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And ladies and gentlemen, like our slogan says, Listen.
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Do.
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Repeat.
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For Life! Don't just listen to the great information Darren shared with you, do it, repeat it each day, form those good habits, so you can have a great life in this world and eternity to come.
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So I'm David Pasqualone.
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I'm gonna go buy some liver.
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This is our good friend, Dr. Darren Schmidt.
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Darren, thank you for being here.
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You're welcome.
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Thanks for having me.
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Awesome.
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And ladies and gentlemen, we love you, God bless, and we'll see you in the next episode.
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Ciao!
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this week's episode of Hanging Out with David Pasqualone and Friends.
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Today we have a follow-up episode with Dr. Darren Schmidt.
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Darren, welcome to the show.
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Yeah, thanks for having me.
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I appreciate it.
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Oh, man, we're looking forward to it.
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As many of our listeners around the world listened to your episode, which I'll put a link in the show notes on the Remarkable People Podcast, we discussed what you do in having the test results, the blood drawn, and what you can glean from these reports.
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So ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna do a live good, bad or ugly.
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Darren's gonna talk about what my lab results show and what we can do to improve my health so you know what to expect in your visit.
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So Darren, take it away, my friend.
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Okay, so just as a reminder, this test is called MVX Plus.
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It stands for Metabolic Vulnerability Index, and it measures cellular health.
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This is available nationwide through LabCorp, and it's relatively new.
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It came out January 2025, and it does several things.
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It predicts five-year longevity, and it measures cellular health, as I mentioned.
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It also gives you a score one to 100, and you want your score to be low.
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That's your overall health score.
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So I can just share the screen and we can go over this result.
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So your blood draw for this was September 23rd, 2026, and they reported it two days later.
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So your overall score is 45, and you want that just to be lower.
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And so I've had people whose scores are in the 20s, which is really good, but still within the context of the other numbers, I can see that they have some room for improvement.
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Okay.
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So just interrupt me at any time if you have any questions.
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So there's that overall score, Metabolic Vulnerability Index.
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And then the reference interval from the lab is less than 63, but that doesn't give us much data.
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There's rules that they have to follow, like 75% of the population has to be, quote-unquote, "within normal limits." So that number there is way too high to be, like, the reference interval at 63 or higher.
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So again, yours is at 45.
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Now, the next one is called the Inflammation Vulnerability Index, and that score is a combination of the next two items, which is the first one is Glycation, and then the next one's called Smallest Particle Number.
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So Glycation is infection and/or inflammation, and you want it to be 300 or less, and you're at 419.
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So of all your scores, that's the one that needs the most amount of work, and we can dive into all the details about that.
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And then the other part of the inflammation vulnerability index is small LDL particle number.
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So it's the number of small HDL particles, and those are like the guardian angels of the arteries.
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And your score is fifteen point eight, and you want that score to be like eighteen, nineteen, twenty.
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Twenty-one point six is the high end on that.
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So that is representative of toxicity, loosely related to toxicity.
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It can also drop down due to infection.
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And so those two combined give us your IVX, inflammation vulnerability index, which is forty-four.
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And I've seen that like in the twenties I've seen that even in the teens or even as low as nine.
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So the lowest inflammation you get, you can get down to, the better off you are.
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So you have work to do there.
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Okay, now the next index.
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So there's three indices.
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We already went through two of them, the MVX and IVX.
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The next one's called MMX, metabolic malnutrition index.
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And you want that in the forties.
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So yours is at forty-nine, so that's really good.
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And again, the lower the better.
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So if it was forty-two, that'd be better, but forty-nine is pretty good.
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And so that's a combination of the last four items.
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So you have citrate, valine, leucine, and isoleucine.
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Okay, so here's what they represent.
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Citrate represents mitochondrial function, and you want that score to be one point six to one point nine.
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So you're at one point seven two, so that's really good.
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And then the valine, leucine, and isoleucine, those are called the branched-chain amino acids, and they represent digestion ability, B1 status, protein intake, and can you digest your protein.
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And and these can go haywire from colon problems like ulcerative colitis, for example, chronic diarrhea.
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They can also go haywire if somebody exercises like the day before the blood draw, so you don't want to exercise for one or two days before.
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So let's go over these one by one.
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So the valine and the leucine, they're more related to glycolysis, which is burning sugar.
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And then the leucine is related to a low-carb diet.
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So the leucine will be a bit low on a low-carb diet, which is fine.
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But anyway, so the va-- your valine score is at two fourteen, which is pretty good, and it'd be better if it was like two thirty, but I'm not complaining about your valine at two fourteen at all.
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The leucine could also be a little bit higher, like one forty, one fifty.
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One-- I'll say one thirty to one fifty, and you're at one eleven So you could maybe digest protein better.
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I don't know if you eat a lot of protein or not.
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Now, the isoleucine is a little bit high.
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It should be 55, yours is at 62.
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So can I ask you q- questions about your health and your diet and stuff?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Okay, good.
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So do you eat a lot of protein?
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Yes.
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Okay, good.
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Do you digest it that you know of, or do you have heartburn or stomach pain or bloating or anything like that?
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I notice if I have steak, I'm fine, but if I have steak two or three days in a row, I have a hard time digesting.
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And then if I have certain foods I don't have heartburn like I used to have, but if I do eat late and go to bed on a full stomach and had a bunch of protein, it is harder for me to digest because I feel it when I sleep.
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Yeah, so what do you feel at that moment when you're trying to sleep but your stomach's full?
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What do you feel?
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It just feels Like sluggish and full and even sometimes hard to breathe.
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Yeah, that.
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So that's the hard to breathe feeling is like the pressure coming up.
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Yeah the upper stomach problems.
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But then if you had steak three days in a row, then you'd have constipation maybe?
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Yeah, I don't think it's constipation, but it'll- Yeah… I might not go a day 'cause it's digesting, and then the next day I'll go, more.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Got it.
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So there's a little bit- So I think that's what happens, like if when I say that if I have a problem or if I eat too much steak or if I eat too much food of something I'm not constipated, I just skip a day, and then the next day I'll go two or three times instead of just once or whatever, yeah.
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I think that's fine.
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Yeah, I think that's fine.
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But it sounds like you have a little bit of something going on with your digestion.
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You should be able to not have that pressure feeling- Yeah … like if you eat or something.
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Anyway, so the main supplement to fix a lot of digestive problems like that would be vitamin B1, high dose synthetic B1, especially benfotiamine.
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So again, that's how that, the valine, leucine, and isoleucine can be corrected or improved upon by adding in the B1.
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But the, but with your scores, like your MMX being at 49, pretty good.
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Not a big deal at all, but it's the Glycation A. That's a problem.
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So- Now, let me ask you a question just for our listeners and for you.
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I did, I fasted for this blood test, but I ate almost at midnight, and I had the
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00 AM.
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Was there supposed to be a longer fast, or is that, was that eight hours enough?
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It should be like 10 to 12 hours, but- Okay, so I kind of- … if you waited-… screwed that up for everybody.
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Sorry- No, you're- … ladies and gentlemen… not really.
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Not really.
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Okay.
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'Cause if you waited two more hours, your Glycation A would still be really high.
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Okay, and the Glycation A is inflammation?
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And/or infection and/or trauma Okay, yeah, I got a lot of that going on.
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I've been having a lot of problems with, I have something going on, whether it's my teeth or gums.
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Yeah.
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I got something going on with my lower back, and my allergies are off the chart.
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For my listeners, they can hear me, the difference in other episodes.
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So this whole season has been pretty rough.
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Do you think that's what's causing that to be elevated or something else?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So the the allergies for sure, and then what's going on with your teeth and gums?
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I- we don't know.
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I've been to two dentists, an oral surgeon.
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I got another periodontal.
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When I was 18, when I was 19, I had radiation therapy, so they don't think it's connected, but we're trying to, look at all the options and see what's going on.
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But I just have this pain when you touch my gums behind my tooth, and it's… I don't know what caused it.
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It just started in mid-July, and it's got thankfully better than it was, but it's still there, and sometimes it gets really bad, and sometimes it's just annoying and there if I think about it.
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But that's one issue.
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And then my lower back's been going off.
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So I just got some weird things happening.
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So to see that up, I don't question it at all.
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But my next question to you as a doctor is what do I do to treat it?
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What do I do to make myself as healthy as possible?
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Yeah, so you have to g- get into the details of the conditions you're talking about.
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Have you had a cone beam of your jaw?
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That's a 3D X-ray of your- Yeah … of your jaw.
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Yeah, I had all that done.
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They're seeing- And there- There was like a- And there's no infection?
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Huh?
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No, that's what's weird.
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They even shoved granules in, antibiotic granules in.
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I did a mouthwash antibiotics.
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I did oral antibiotics.
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I did steroids.
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Okay, so wait, they found a pocket?
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You, do you have an infection in your teeth or in your jaw?
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No, they found a little… Oh, man, I don't know how to explain it.
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They found like a little… They said maybe there was some bone loss, like a, a little like tu- like tube or granule, but they don't know what caused… i'm like rambling In behind where my gums are, they found like a little, like area that has some bone loss.
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Yeah.
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So to be safe, they shoved granules up there, if- Okay… that makes sense.
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But there was no sign of infection.
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Okay, so- But when I touch my tooth, it doesn't necessarily hurt, but when I touch the gums behind it, it's like lights me up.
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And this all came out of nowhere mid-July.
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Okay.
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Like even right now talking to you, it hurts.
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Okay.
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And you've been using an antibiotic mouthwash you said?
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I, yeah, I did that for, I'm not continuously, but I did that for two weeks.
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Yeah.
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Didn't do anything.
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Did steroids, didn't do anything.
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Maybe it did a little.
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And then the, what's happening that helps is I've been rubbing clove and frankincense essential oils on it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I do that every day, like twice a day.
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Yeah.
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And it k- just numbs it up, but there's definitely an issue.
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So I was getting ready to pull the tooth, and right before that the oral surgeon's like, "Wait, we need to get your old records from the radiation to make sure, you'll heal and recover from it." And then this, which, thank God I will, but then there's also, he's like let's see a par-," I think it's periodontist to check the gums.
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Yeah.
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So maybe it's not even the tooth, but what we think is there's like a crack in the tooth, and it's just radiating pain.
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Oh, okay.
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So the main causes of chronic illness are infection, toxin, and malnutrition.
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So if there's, if it's just a crack in the tooth, that'd be like a malnutrition thing.
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That's how I would see it.
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Like the need for bone minerals and protein, and there's supplements that, where people make recipes for a supplement to heal teeth.
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You've heard of that before?
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Wait, repeat that last part.
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There's supplements that are designed to heal teeth.
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I didn't know that.
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If you got them- Yeah … I'll, let's take them.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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There's one, there's a company called Standard Process.
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They make a product called Bio-Dent.
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And there's another company called Ortho Molecular.
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They make a product called OsteoPrev to build bones, right?
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And teeth are like fancy bones.
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So if you, if it's only a crack, then you just take in the nutrients to heal that.
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If there's an infection I use, Of course, I'm a big fan of going to the right dentist, and if you've already tried antibiotics or antibiotic mouthwash those antimicrobial herbs that you mentioned right there on the gum would be very powerful.
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They should absorb in.
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And if it's a toxin, like radiation therapy, like that's pretty toxic, so there's like detox products for that.
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There's a product called Virad Chem Binder from CellCore to detox radiation.
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Yeah, it's been 30 years, but I had 4,000 rads roughly.
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Yeah.
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And that's why… He was just being extra safe to make sure, which I thank him for.
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Yeah.
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But, Yeah… yeah like I said, I'm open.
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And ladies and gentlemen, like I said, I do have a complex medical history, so Dr. Schmidt, I'm not trying to make your life more complicated on camera.
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But the other thing is you mentioned syn- synthetic vitamins.
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Yeah.
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I can't do synthetic vitamins because I have that MHTRF, whatever it's called.
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MTHFR.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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B1's different.
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Vitamin B1's a different subject.
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Yeah, I just know that when I got tested- Yeah … there's something with my blood brain barrier, and it said- Yeah … like I know certain things I can't do.
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I just now I have a document that says it, but, no, but the benfotiamine B1 is totally fine for you to take, even if you're MTHFR.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Yeah, the MTHFR doesn't apply to B1 Okay All right.
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So allergies, have you had allergies for years?
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Yeah, my whole life.
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Environmental allergies.
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I'm allergic to shellfish, and I'm allergic to one antibiotic that I know of, clindamycin.
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Yeah.
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It's like an oral… A dentist gave it to me.
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Okay.
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So what about seasonal allergies, like spring and fall?
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Yep, 100%.
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I'm really bad- Is it all year or just spring and fall?
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If I touch trees or grass, it's year-round, but it flares up in August, September every year.
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So right now, we just had a hurricane, so I think it stirred more stuff up.
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So right now I've been… It's been extra fun.
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Okay.
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You've had this seasonal allergies even when you were, like, 10 years old?
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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So I'm gonna say something that a lot of people would debate, but I… When I think of season- And I've treated tens of thousands of patients.
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I reverse complex chronic illness using only diet and supplements.
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Here's my assessment on seasonal allergies.
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Number one, it's organisms, plural, hiding out in the sinuses, and it could be bacteria, virus, candida, mold, or parasites.
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And I'm always going after parasites first because parasites harbor candida, mold, virus, bacteria, and metals, and chemicals.
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And I've had a lot of patients blow parasites out of their nose, including myself.
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I've had three come out of my nose.
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I use a product called Para 3 from CellCore Biosciences.
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It is absolutely fantastic.
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And and then after that you might need some antimicrobial clove or oregano or, combination herbal products that are antimicrobial And s- and then as opposed to just taking Benadryl all the time like an antihistamine.
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So if you really wanna clean these sinuses out and make the seasonal allergies go away forever, you gotta really clean all that garbage out.
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And I used to have seasonal allergies, and I haven't had them now for, what, 10 or 12 years, 'cause I fixed them up 100%.
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So there's that.
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So you- That would be a dream come true.
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Yeah, so when you have infections, whether it's teeth, sinuses, or in the ears saliva can be infected, and you… That leaves the, excuse me, it leaves here, the head, it goes down the throat into the body, causing systemic disease.
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So it can leave via the arteries, blood, lymphatic system down the ears, Eustachian tubes, down the throat, down the neck, and then just swallowing.
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So those are the four ways that these infections here go down in the body causing… I've seen chronic ear infections cause chronic UTIs, and I have people fix up their ears using peppermint, like a super strong peppermint oil, essential oil.
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Also that Pera 3 supplement that I mentioned, it's a liquid.
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I have people put that on their finger and put it in their ear like that and behind their ear, and that clears up bloating in the stomach because… And I had… One time I had a woman, she was on the double lung transplant list at University of Michigan Hospital.
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She had the nastiest cough.
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And I d- I do this biofeedback muscle testing procedure, and I found that her ears were a problem.
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And I said to her, "Do you have a c- a postnasal drip going down the back of your throat?" She goes, "Yeah, all the time." So I said, "Your problem is your ears." So she treated her ears, and over the course of six or more months it cleaned up her lungs, and she got off that double lung transplant list.
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So I'm saying this because there might be a relationship with the s- the stomach problems, and maybe even low back pain.
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So the… If these problems don't go away on their own, like taking B1 or doing other therapies, maybe you got a little bit of the sinus issues here dripping down into your body.
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah.
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No, I… Absolutely.
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And For me, if I… I just had a bunch of medical tests run.
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As- according to, mainstream science, I'm perfectly healthy aside from my blood pressure, and my blood pressure got high, so I actually got on blood pressure medicine, which I freaking hate the fact I'm on medicine, but it was just getting to a dangerous place, so now I'm on this till I can figure it out.
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Would whatever's going on in my sinuses cause blood pressure increase?
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Yes.
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When your glyc A is 300, the blood pressure will be normal I had a, I had high blood pressure when I had mold in 2016, and then I had blood pressure again when I had a t- a gas leak at my house in 2024.
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So toxins and infections cause high blood pressure.
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Toxins and infections cause, you name it, heart disease, cancer, autoimmune disease, aging, fatigue.
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It's infections, toxins, malnutrition, and that's what this test measures, infections, toxins, malnutrition, and then mitochondrial dysfunction.
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Yeah.
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So to me, as a patient, I'm thinking my sinuses, my allergies, my ears, all that stuff, I know I got an issue there.
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Yeah.
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My stomach has been really good and my digestion overall- Yeah … and then my blood pressure.
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Like those… So it would be like my sinuses and my blood pressure.
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Yeah.
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So if I was coming to you, that's what I'd wanna work on, unless you say something else.
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Yeah, the thing is, what's causing your blood pressure?
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Yeah.
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I've had people reduce their blood pressure by just going on the keto diet.
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I've had people reduce their blood pressure by getting rid of all the mold out of their body.
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Other people have gotten rid of their blood pressure by getting rid of, infections in their gut.
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Their bloating went away, their digestion works better.
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Their… You j- you wanna improve your health, and then symptoms go away.
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So in allopathic medicine, which is what we have, we're trained, we have symptoms.
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We want the symptoms to go away, so the doctors treat your symptom to make you happy, to make the symptom go away.
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Yeah.
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And in my perspective with the way that I, address healthcare, it's a different perspective.
00:20:27.087 --> 00:20:40.757
The perspective is increase your health by detoxing, organisms and toxins, and then nourish, and we watch and we see what symptoms go away, and it can take six months to a year and a half, two years.
00:20:41.574 --> 00:20:54.086
So if somebody has metabolic syndrome, which, they're eating junk food and now they're overweight, now they have fatty liver, now they have high blood pressure, like, all that is a low… you want a low-carb keto style diet.
00:20:54.873 --> 00:20:58.336
That's… Th- so there's I call it the seven-step blueprint to optimal health.
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So there's seven steps to get your health back.
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So step one is diet.
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Step two is drainage.
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That means you're not constipated.
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It means your kidneys are working well, lymphatic system, liver, even sinuses, drainage.
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And then step, the next step is, Wait, I… Back up.
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So s- step one is diet.
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Step two is mitochondrial function, which is citrate, and that's B1 primarily.
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And then step three is drainage.
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Step four is cleaning out the intestines, and that'd be related to glycae.
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Step five is cleaning out all kinds of organisms from head to toe.
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And so like that means toenail fungus, skin rash.
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That could be any kind of organisms hiding out in the sinuses.
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Bloating, that's candida.
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People carry five or six different infections in their body and they get Benadryl, they get Gas-X, they get… They're treating their symptoms, right?
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But you gotta eliminate those organisms.
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And then after step five, there's step six, which is detox, and that's related to the small cell particle number.
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And then step seven is intracellular cleansing, which is like Lyme disease.
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So then that's healing the body.
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Do you see what I'm saying?
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As opposed to treating the symptoms with medications, you get the difference there?
00:22:09.691 --> 00:22:10.607
Yeah, absolutely.
00:22:10.609 --> 00:22:13.914
Getting to the root cause is always the key, not just treating the symptoms.
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Yeah.
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So that's why it's like, whether it's me or one of our listeners, where do we start in this process based on these results?
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It's the seven steps.
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So step one is diet.
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But looking at yours, you're, you said you're eating a low carb diet, right?
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You're not eating sugar, right?
00:22:29.173 --> 00:22:30.457
Oh, no, I eat trash.
00:22:30.510 --> 00:22:36.721
I eat, not trash, but I'll eat good food- Yeah … and then I'll grab a cupcake or, or I'll have a sweet tea.
00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:40.539
So- So I am eating sugar How often?
00:22:41.598 --> 00:22:42.555
Oh, probably every day.
00:22:43.189 --> 00:22:43.507
Okay.
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So that's step one, the diet.
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So you gotta cut that out.
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Yeah.
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I know when I switched to a low- and that alone- … low sodium What's that?
00:22:50.693 --> 00:22:54.356
Low sodium, I never watched sodium my whole life.
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Yeah.
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And when I started watching sodium, I, without trying, in a week I lost 12 pounds and my blood pressure went down.
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When was that?
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Just a couple months ago.
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Wow.
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That's awesome.
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Yeah.
00:23:07.523 --> 00:23:10.669
So sodium I think is a big deal for my body for some reason.
00:23:11.122 --> 00:23:14.971
Like more so than others, yeah, so- Like 12 pounds in a week without trying, that was a lot of weight.
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Yeah.
00:23:16.068 --> 00:23:17.457
So here's the deal though with your diet.
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When you're eating sugar and carbs, that makes your body, the insulin goes up, and then you start retaining water and salt.
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Therefore, water and salt.
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When you go on a keto diet, the insulin drops, that makes your body lose water and salt.
00:23:36.826 --> 00:23:51.467
So that's why you're sup- you might have a genetic issue there, but you're probably super sensitive to salt because of the high carb diet So that's like a known thing like in the low carb community.
00:23:52.442 --> 00:23:52.858
Okay.
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Yeah.
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So now the sugar and the carbs will make the glyc A go up.
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And then having, just like extra fat, I don't know like what your weight is, but- Yeah, I'm probably 30 pounds overweight.
00:24:06.700 --> 00:24:09.903
I should be walking around at 185, and I'm about 215.
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Okay.
00:24:11.211 --> 00:24:17.471
So just having fat cells in your body like the white fat, it's metabolically detrimental.
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It's inflammatory.
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Just having extra… like the bigger white fat cells, that's contributing to high glyc A. So the… it's a picture of like here's the things that you do.
00:24:29.404 --> 00:24:39.689
You clean up your diet of the carbs and sugar, and then you clean out your sinuses of any kind of organisms hanging out, and clean up whatever ha- is happening with your tooth, fix that.
00:24:40.332 --> 00:24:45.229
And then regarding your low back, have you had low back pain like chronically or is that a new thing?
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:50.467
No, it flares up and down since I was in my 20s.
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Yeah.
00:24:51.186 --> 00:25:00.977
But the, Recently it just flared, right around the same time my tooth flared up in July, I had my back and my lower left side of my back and my tooth hurting at the same time.
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So I was just in a lot of pain and discomfort.
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Yeah.
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So you might be surprised when you cut out all the sugar how your pain reduces and your body starts to heal,'cause sugar's very inflammatory.
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:15.732
Yeah, no I believe it.
00:25:16.510 --> 00:25:16.906
Yeah.
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All right.
00:25:17.596 --> 00:25:22.423
So basically clean up my diet, and then see how that goes.
00:25:23.056 --> 00:25:26.589
And then when you say treat the sinuses, how do you do that?
00:25:26.602 --> 00:25:30.734
Is it like a nose douche or, swish something up there, or what do you do with that?
00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:31.672
Yeah.
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Yep.
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I'm a big fan of that.
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So the, you can buy a neti pot really cheap where you put water in there and you have to tilt your head over.
00:25:40.836 --> 00:25:43.800
But I'm a big fan of Navage, and that's a mechanical neti pot.
00:25:44.277 --> 00:25:49.090
So it has a little water pump and it puts water up one nostril and sucks it out the other.
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So in that water there's some salt just to make it soft on your mucosal membranes.
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And then I use this Para 3 liquid.
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I put about five drops in there.
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Yeah, and then it cleans out those sinuses really well.
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And so when I did it a few years ago, I did it about 30 times.
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I did it about twice a week.
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I did a, a total of 30 times, and man, the first couple times I did it I had tremendous amounts of stuff coming out, and it was phenomenal.
00:26:17.224 --> 00:26:19.776
And then I haven't done it in probably two years or whatever.
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I don't even know, but it's been a long time just 'cause my sinuses are in really good shape.
00:26:24.980 --> 00:26:38.037
Yeah, I had surgery about- I have blue ProHealth out of my nose… I had surgery about five years ago the surgeries I had when I was 19, everything was reconstructed from the tumor that s- they removed.
00:26:38.681 --> 00:26:42.238
And then, but I basically went my whole life not being able to breathe through my nose properly.
00:26:42.596 --> 00:26:49.968
So I just had that redone, but before the surgery I couldn't, I could put stuff in but it wouldn't come out.
00:26:50.022 --> 00:26:50.923
It wouldn't drain.
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So now maybe that, the N- Navage or neti pot would work a lot better for me because it can come out.
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Before it would just go in and make my head full Yeah, that's important to be able to make that come out Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
00:27:06.191 --> 00:27:09.295
And you said the Navage is the blow and suck machine?
00:27:10.758 --> 00:27:11.195
Yep.
00:27:11.458 --> 00:27:13.664
Yeah, it's, like it's at Walmart and stuff.
00:27:13.871 --> 00:27:16.093
It's 100 bu- it's just north of 100 bucks.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Yeah.
00:27:19.311 --> 00:27:23.224
So step one is clean up the diet, lose my fat, 'cause I'm way overweight.
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Two, get the neti pot or Navage going.
00:27:27.384 --> 00:27:31.513
And then did you say there's a supplement to put in with it besides a salt solution?
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Yeah, it's called Para 3 from CellCore.
00:27:34.980 --> 00:27:36.817
It's a very strong herbal product.
00:27:37.587 --> 00:27:40.077
And I can get that through your website, or where do I get that?
00:27:41.172 --> 00:27:46.343
Yeah, right now mother natures shop dot com is where you get that from.
00:27:47.242 --> 00:27:47.693
Okay.
00:27:48.441 --> 00:27:51.391
So I do those two things, and what's the next step you'd recommend?
00:27:52.767 --> 00:27:54.739
I want to back up a little bit on the diet.
00:27:55.057 --> 00:28:02.272
So I'm a fan of a low carb diet, but when people are trying to lose weight, also do low fat.
00:28:02.538 --> 00:28:06.515
So it's like a high protein and lower carb and lower fat diet.
00:28:06.962 --> 00:28:12.028
So the more protein you eat, the more satisfied you are, and you end up eating less fat and carbs.
00:28:12.855 --> 00:28:12.886
Okay.
00:28:12.886 --> 00:28:29.535
So it's not just about being… 'Cause I was lo- I've been low carb my whole, since 1999, and in 2018, 2019 I was very carnivore, so super low carb for a whole year, but yet I gained 10 pounds'cause I was eating super fatty meat.
00:28:30.251 --> 00:28:34.310
So some people say that they eat s- really fatty meat and they don't gain weight.
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That's good for them.
00:28:35.835 --> 00:28:36.741
Everybody's different.
00:28:37.434 --> 00:28:39.596
And, and I was happy to gain the 10 pounds.
00:28:40.497 --> 00:28:45.469
But I'm, it's just a proof that just because you're eating low carb doesn't mean it works for you to lose weight.
00:28:45.912 --> 00:28:50.984
So that's why I say low carb and low fat while eating high protein, so it's gonna be lean meat.
00:28:51.674 --> 00:28:52.028
Yeah.
00:28:52.076 --> 00:28:58.784
And I want to lose fat and gain muscle, so I'm not- Yeah … hung up about how much I weigh on the scale, I just want to be good weight, right?
00:28:59.143 --> 00:28:59.663
Yeah.
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What about- Yeah.
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Oh, go ahead.
00:29:01.888 --> 00:29:02.442
No, go ahead.
00:29:02.814 --> 00:29:07.584
No, I was gonna say almost every time I eat, it, this might be just a psychological programming, right?
00:29:08.402 --> 00:29:10.344
Or is it something physiological?
00:29:10.398 --> 00:29:19.951
Every time I eat, afterwards I want chocolate or coffee or chocolate and/or coffee, and that's something that's been going on the last few years.
00:29:20.338 --> 00:29:35.691
So if I eat a meal, I instantly want chocolate and coffee, and I've had several, like one of my best friends They were telling me that's something that my body's probably craving'cause it's deficient, or is it just'cause I'm a fatty and I'm craving it'cause I want the lust of the flesh?
00:29:38.561 --> 00:29:42.653
There's something deficient, and- No, I'm wondering… Oh, there is something deficient.
00:29:43.105 --> 00:29:43.692
Yeah.
00:29:44.601 --> 00:29:45.121
Yeah.
00:29:45.141 --> 00:29:51.741
So one thing about c- chocolate is that- And I always have dark chocolate, just so you know.
00:29:51.741 --> 00:29:52.776
It's always dark chocolate.
00:29:53.193 --> 00:29:53.660
Yeah.
00:29:53.925 --> 00:29:57.055
So chocolate ha- okay, chocolate has cannabinoids in it.
00:29:57.778 --> 00:30:02.057
So you've heard marijuana's got whatever th- there's one cannabinoid people talk about.
00:30:02.546 --> 00:30:06.375
But they- we've, we know that there's over 125 different types of cannabinoids.
00:30:07.067 --> 00:30:14.392
Cannabinoids are nutrients that are found in marijuana first, and then second is chocolate.
00:30:15.122 --> 00:30:20.311
And it helps the limbic system, which is related to your body's ability to function.
00:30:20.907 --> 00:30:22.766
And chocolate can be considered a health food.
00:30:22.776 --> 00:30:24.644
Dark chocolate, I'm totally fine with that.
00:30:24.991 --> 00:30:26.954
100% fine with you eating dark chocolate.
00:30:27.631 --> 00:30:32.105
But we, if you don't have cravings if you, if your cravings are gone, that means you're healthier.
00:30:32.578 --> 00:30:34.373
And then the same thing with ca- coffee.
00:30:34.374 --> 00:30:41.741
I don't know if you're craving caffeine or the flavor or what kind of effect you get when you consume that coffee.
00:30:42.307 --> 00:30:46.692
So I don't ever, I've never, I don't get energy from coffee.
00:30:46.700 --> 00:30:48.555
Actually, sometimes it actually makes me sleepier.
00:30:48.904 --> 00:30:59.517
It's just- Yeah… I crave it, and then it's just But I'm not one of the people like,"I need it to think or to stay awake." I just kind of- … like it.
00:30:59.538 --> 00:31:08.142
But I have noticed, like after a meal, I'll want to have a, a, a cup of coffee and a cigar or, and chocolate, like all the time.
00:31:08.326 --> 00:31:14.009
So I'm thinking- Yeah … did I just build this up in my head and it's like conditioned response, or is it actually- No.
00:31:14.009 --> 00:31:15.127
No, it's physiological.
00:31:15.567 --> 00:31:16.915
So here's my answer to that.
00:31:17.384 --> 00:31:24.695
So I've been a fan of the carnivore diet since 2018, and the more meat people eat, the less cravings people have.
00:31:25.307 --> 00:31:27.930
That includes all kinds of cravings and addictions.
00:31:28.525 --> 00:31:30.172
So food is just one of them.
00:31:30.172 --> 00:31:33.244
Food and drink, and cigarettes, and gambling, and all these things.
00:31:33.865 --> 00:31:38.269
Those are, Those addictions are mitigated on a carnivore diet.
00:31:38.827 --> 00:31:46.683
So if you, when you cut out sugar and high, and grains, you end up with meat, vegetables, and some fruit.
00:31:47.496 --> 00:31:49.298
You'll see these cravings go away.
00:31:49.715 --> 00:31:50.796
That's my answer to that.
00:31:51.546 --> 00:31:53.846
The more carnivore you are, the faster it'll happen.
00:31:54.970 --> 00:31:55.280
Huh.
00:31:55.567 --> 00:31:55.805
All right.
00:31:55.805 --> 00:32:00.882
And is there a carnivore diet you recommend, or is it just like you said, vegetables, a few fruits, and meat?
00:32:02.491 --> 00:32:03.657
Yeah, it's just that simple.
00:32:03.695 --> 00:32:04.948
It's not complicated at all.
00:32:05.198 --> 00:32:13.156
Just eat a… For my first year of being carnivore, 2019, I had one rule, and that was eat as much meat as I possibly can every day.
00:32:14.330 --> 00:32:23.691
I did that for a year, and then after that I changed the rule: eat as much meat as I need for the day So it ended up being a little bit less.
00:32:24.698 --> 00:32:29.032
And then I have- No, I've heard people say that if you eat too much meat, it actually causes inflammation.
00:32:29.038 --> 00:32:31.789
Is that a lie, or is that truth, or is that just depends on the person?
00:32:31.789 --> 00:32:36.364
It's, no, it's not… it can, I can see that being true for some people who can't digest it.
00:32:37.260 --> 00:32:53.193
But the, there's a study done on the keto diet, this is back in 2018 or earlier, and they found that it was the the least, or I'm sorry, the most anti-inflammatory diet compared to any other diet.
00:32:53.928 --> 00:32:55.713
So it's super healing.
00:32:56.798 --> 00:33:06.285
And there's another study that, there's amazing studies that have come out just this year talking about ultra-processed food, which is refined sugar, refined oils, refined flour.
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:12.655
And they kept the calories the same, and these people had… And the micronutrients were the same.
00:33:12.655 --> 00:33:17.281
The fat, protein, and carbs, and calories were all the same in these two groups.
00:33:17.282 --> 00:33:20.421
But one group had whole foods, the other group had ultra-processed food.
00:33:21.426 --> 00:33:29.339
And the people that had ultra-processed food, they didn't lose the weight, even though all the macros were the same.
00:33:30.070 --> 00:33:40.907
And then there's another study showing how regardless of LDL cholesterol, people on ultra-processed food had more heart disease, even though everything else would be, like, the same.
00:33:41.348 --> 00:33:49.352
So it's just the pure ultra-processed food that causes inflammation and high LDL, like heart disease and chronic disease.
00:33:50.165 --> 00:33:55.346
So All right You with me on that?
00:33:56.136 --> 00:33:56.505
Yeah.
00:33:56.508 --> 00:33:57.855
So where do we go from here?
00:33:57.857 --> 00:34:04.219
What is… If people are listening, they're going through the same experience with you or one of your team members, what's the next step from here?
00:34:06.256 --> 00:34:11.317
So after the diet, after the sinuses are cleaned up, then find out what's happening with your back.
00:34:11.318 --> 00:34:15.164
So it's gone up and down over the course of many years.
00:34:15.610 --> 00:34:19.264
To me, that sounds like you have some kind of a nutri- nutritional problem.
00:34:19.565 --> 00:34:22.235
Infection, toxicity, malnutrition.
00:34:22.244 --> 00:34:25.297
Something, one of those three affecting your back.
00:34:26.097 --> 00:34:28.543
And otherwise you would be healed, right?
00:34:29.353 --> 00:34:37.715
So that could be… Once you clean up your diet and fix up your sinuses, your back could be really good again.
00:34:38.737 --> 00:34:55.536
And if it's not, then we do the biofeedback muscle testing technique to find out what's going on with your back and f- and discover are you deficient in, nutrient, building block nutrients like glucosamine sulfate, chondroitin sulfate, or do you have some toxin hiding out there?
00:34:56.527 --> 00:34:56.952
Yeah.
00:34:58.157 --> 00:34:59.653
So that's to be discovered.
00:35:01.047 --> 00:35:01.518
Okay.
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:02.349
All right.
00:35:03.989 --> 00:35:06.632
And you've been through physical therapy for that or chiropractic?
00:35:06.635 --> 00:35:07.998
You've done some body work for that?
00:35:08.592 --> 00:35:09.855
Yeah, I've done everything.
00:35:09.963 --> 00:35:12.835
Ice, stretching, deep tissue massage.
00:35:12.869 --> 00:35:14.659
That all helps for sure.
00:35:14.693 --> 00:35:15.153
Yeah.
00:35:15.423 --> 00:35:21.498
And at one point, they said I had a couple ruptured discs, but it just comes and goes.
00:35:21.498 --> 00:35:24.961
And obviously when I'm working out, it's less of an issue.
00:35:25.402 --> 00:35:27.733
It's when I don't work out, it becomes more of an issue.
00:35:28.088 --> 00:35:43.204
But this flare- Yeah … up was just, quote, unquote, "out of the blue", but so was the teeth pain, so I started thinking, "Is it connected?" So and then my sinuses, obviously the more pressure in the sinus, my… Like right now, my head's congested, my sinus is congested, my ears hurt a little, my tooth hurts a little.
00:35:43.204 --> 00:35:49.974
It's all connected, so I just wanna find the cause- Yeah … the root cause and find healing Right.
00:35:50.777 --> 00:35:53.032
Yeah, you got some work to do cleaning here.
00:35:53.454 --> 00:35:54.315
But let me tell you a story.
00:35:54.318 --> 00:36:03.360
So one of my practitioners, her husband is a tennis pro, so he teaches tennis, and he had tennis elbow, right?
00:36:03.362 --> 00:36:16.157
His elbow hurt, and he tried all kinds of body work and acupuncture and supplements and… So what happened was her father passed away, and they live out of the country.
00:36:16.942 --> 00:36:25.771
So right before this, right before she got this news, she had purchased three pounds of liver, and so she cooked it.
00:36:26.081 --> 00:36:32.315
Like sh- she's getting ready to leave to fly out, and she had this three, fresh liver.
00:36:32.318 --> 00:36:44.282
She cooked it, gave it to her husband and two sons, and was like, "Here, eat this." She was gone for a week, and he said within three days his elbow pain was completely gone.
00:36:45.152 --> 00:36:55.635
So I had another patient who, he was in a car accident in 1990, broke his back, and he was paralyzed for about three months, but then he recovered.
00:36:57.186 --> 00:37:05.650
And he owns a tool and die shop with his brother, and he had pain going from his feet up to his back every day.
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He stood at the… he wasn't doing executive work.
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He was doing the labor.
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And so every… He worked seven days a week, and for 25 years, he had nine out of 10 pain going from his feet up to his back.
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I told him this story about the liver.
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And and he was eating a carnivore diet.
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He was eating one steak a day for dinner, and that was it for a year and a half.
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It didn't touch his pain.
00:37:29.775 --> 00:37:39.184
So I said, "Instead of eating one steak a day, I want you to eat a pound of liver for dinner, and that's it." And by the end of the week, his pain was gone.
00:37:40.577 --> 00:37:45.382
And over the course of six months- Wow … he would be able to… It's wild.
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This is the wildest story.
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Yeah.
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After a few weeks, he stopped the liver consumption, and the pain came back in a day and a half, two days.
00:37:53.373 --> 00:37:58.204
But then four months later, he stopped the liver, and the pain came back four or five days later.
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Then six months later, he stopped it for a week, and then the pain would come back.
00:38:03.010 --> 00:38:10.425
So the liver not only got rid of all the pain, but it was actually healing his nervous system and his skelet- the musculoskeletal system.
00:38:11.268 --> 00:38:15.483
So having said that, liver is the most important food for human beings.
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It's always been a sacred food amongst traditional tribes going back centuries.
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And then red meat is next, and then white meat is after that.
00:38:25.905 --> 00:38:26.768
So- You know what?
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Yeah.
00:38:27.632 --> 00:38:29.286
I'm being totally serious.
00:38:29.289 --> 00:38:43.650
But- I don't know if I've ever in my life ate liver I'm not saying it's bad, but I've had pain my whole life and medical issues my whole life, 'cause I remember my mom, she refused to make it or cook it.
00:38:43.650 --> 00:38:43.661
Yeah.
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And then in my adult life, I don't think I've ever had it.
00:38:48.259 --> 00:38:53.329
So I think I'm gonna go to Publix or the grocery store- Yeah … and get some liver, see what happens.
00:38:54.179 --> 00:38:54.652
Yeah.
00:38:54.923 --> 00:38:56.128
So you gotta know how to cook it.
00:38:56.833 --> 00:38:57.650
How do you cook it?
00:38:58.788 --> 00:39:06.396
It's high heat, and you have, When I do it, I put onions down first, and the onions caramelize, right?
00:39:06.398 --> 00:39:07.708
They turn brown and sweet.
00:39:08.253 --> 00:39:11.532
So you put the li- and the liver, like beef liver is a thin strip.
00:39:12.547 --> 00:39:15.686
So you throw it down on top of that for what, like a minute?
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And then you flip it over.
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May- maybe one to three minutes I'll say per side.
00:39:21.413 --> 00:39:24.661
But you don't wanna make it too rubbery, right?
00:39:24.673 --> 00:39:26.251
So you're just getting it a little bit brown.
00:39:27.170 --> 00:39:28.559
And then I use gravy.
00:39:29.170 --> 00:39:39.295
But to make your life easy… And it's super fast, but to make your life easy, I always go to a Ger- there's a German restaurant up the road, and I get chicken liver or I get beef liver.
00:39:39.302 --> 00:39:45.628
Every time I go there I… not every time, but a lot of times I get liver there I'm gonna try it.
00:39:45.628 --> 00:39:46.646
It is- I'm gonna see what happens.
00:39:46.646 --> 00:39:46.675
Yeah.
00:39:46.682 --> 00:39:49.268
That'd be great if that's all, if that was a big helper.
00:39:50.262 --> 00:39:53.523
Oh, it's definitely a big- And the more you eat, the better off you are, for sure.
00:39:54.362 --> 00:39:54.570
Huh.
00:39:54.583 --> 00:39:57.922
Yeah, and livers, and liver supplements, like liver glandulars, they don't cut it.
00:39:58.545 --> 00:39:59.268
It's not good enough.
00:40:00.380 --> 00:40:01.454
Yeah, I can see that.
00:40:02.126 --> 00:40:02.510
Yeah.
00:40:02.583 --> 00:40:04.036
You gotta get the pounds of liver.
00:40:05.579 --> 00:40:06.146
All right.
00:40:06.237 --> 00:40:10.990
It's been super informative, and now I got some definite action steps to take.
00:40:11.007 --> 00:40:13.295
Anything else before we wrap this up?
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Would be in a normal session, and then also we're gonna transition to how can our listeners get ahold of you and your team?
00:40:20.240 --> 00:40:21.742
So like in a normal session?
00:40:22.213 --> 00:40:23.985
No, I think we covered all that.
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We covered everything related to your MVX score.
00:40:28.168 --> 00:40:28.635
Okay.
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And then when it comes to our listeners and getting ahold of you so they can run their own tests and follow up with you, what's the best way to reach you, Doc?
00:40:38.697 --> 00:40:41.708
The website is the nutritionalhealingcenter.com.
00:40:42.692 --> 00:40:47.594
And then from there you can actually order MVX Plus without even talking to us.
00:40:48.353 --> 00:40:52.126
There's a button on the upper right corner of the website called MVX Test.
00:40:53.190 --> 00:40:58.523
You can call the office, and everybody at my office is super friendly, and have them help you out.
00:40:59.255 --> 00:41:02.777
And then w- And then the, th- then you get the score, and n- now you have a game.
00:41:02.786 --> 00:41:10.320
The game is make your score better, and it'll guide you down the right path, and then you can track progress.
00:41:10.324 --> 00:41:14.434
So I have my patients run it every two months so we know it's working.
00:41:14.436 --> 00:41:24.847
So I know that my therapies are working, and I know that the patient's lifestyle choices are working, and it's like this is the greatest blood test for humanity.
00:41:25.664 --> 00:41:28.331
So it measures, guides, and tracks your health improvement.
00:41:28.902 --> 00:41:32.510
And then as you get healthier, symptoms go away, right?
00:41:32.510 --> 00:41:42.547
And you get younger, and you can actually physically see in your blood that you're younger because they've tracked the five-year mortality rate depending on that overall score.
00:41:43.351 --> 00:41:46.378
And then you can also see if you're malnourished in your blood.
00:41:47.025 --> 00:41:49.797
And the test is cheap I charge $49 for it.
00:41:50.692 --> 00:42:07.231
That's it So for the listeners, they're gonna go to your website, book the test, and then once they get the results, they can book a c- consulting call with you or your team, and then from there you put together a plan.
00:42:07.385 --> 00:42:08.146
Is that correct?
00:42:08.545 --> 00:42:08.797
Yeah.
00:42:08.797 --> 00:42:14.036
So we have like a… It's… We don't go visit by visit like if you go see a medical doctor.
00:42:14.085 --> 00:42:23.257
We have a plan that's, It starts three, with a three to six-month membership, and then after that it goes to a per visit fee, right?
00:42:23.268 --> 00:42:27.172
So like we're in we're reversing complex chronic illness.
00:42:27.775 --> 00:42:30.543
And like I said at the beginning, it's six months to two years.
00:42:31.592 --> 00:42:38.248
And so if somebody says I wanna just get one reading," like we… I think we have that opportunity, like you can just get one visit.
00:42:39.014 --> 00:42:42.192
We're… Our job is to guide people to actually get results, you know what I'm saying?
00:42:42.195 --> 00:42:44.373
We have that responsibility to get results.
00:42:45.150 --> 00:42:49.838
So if I come to you and I say, "Doc, I want my blood pressure healthy and normal.
00:42:49.889 --> 00:42:57.355
I wanna see that nice 120 over 75 or whatever it is, and then I wanna get my allergies under control.
00:42:57.355 --> 00:43:08.139
That would be a dream come true to not have allergies anymore, and then to not have this pressure in my face, storms come by and I start getting a headache." How, where would that start in your plan?
00:43:08.152 --> 00:43:10.048
That would be a six-month subscription?
00:43:10.826 --> 00:43:12.422
Pr- yeah, me- six-month membership.
00:43:12.717 --> 00:43:21.161
So I have seven other practitioners in my office, and their fees are less than mine 'cause I'm the guy like on social media, so people call and they ask for me.
00:43:21.630 --> 00:43:26.481
I only see patients two days a week, but my other providers are three and four days a week.
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:31.244
So their fees are one third to two, two thirds less than mine.
00:43:32.166 --> 00:43:40.996
So anyways, yeah, there's a wide variety of membership options and pricing, and we match you up with the right person, right?
00:43:40.998 --> 00:43:45.193
We try to match you up as best we can personality wise and what your goals are.
00:43:45.925 --> 00:43:49.036
So her name is… My person that does that is Priscilla.
00:43:49.456 --> 00:43:54.934
We also have Liz, but yeah, so just call the office and see if you see what we can do for you.
00:43:55.492 --> 00:43:57.510
So for me it would be Priscilla or Liz.
00:43:57.612 --> 00:43:58.650
But Priscilla you said?
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:04.795
Yeah, to talk to, to find out like if you would work best with me or one of my other pr- practitioners.
00:44:05.672 --> 00:44:05.969
Gotcha.
00:44:05.969 --> 00:44:06.826
If you want to- Yeah yeah.
00:44:07.023 --> 00:44:07.331
Yeah.
00:44:07.965 --> 00:44:11.420
Like clearly I'm not going through menopause, so you don't… There's an expert for that.
00:44:11.456 --> 00:44:12.244
I'm don't need that.
00:44:12.454 --> 00:44:18.469
But you're saying for sinuses and allergies and what I'm dealing with, that would be the expert for me.
00:44:19.414 --> 00:44:28.039
Yeah, we all improve health, and we all have… Like diet is easy and sinuses are easy and back pain is easy.
00:44:28.784 --> 00:44:51.829
But if s- if a woman comes in- That's great to hear,' cause I've been struggling But if we have a menopausal woman calling Liz or s- or Priscilla, and they're like… And Priscilla would say maybe not see Dr. Schmidt, maybe see one of the other practitioners," 'cause they're all female, so Yeah, but we all get rid of parasites, we all get rid… we all talk about teeth and mouth.
00:44:52.496 --> 00:44:56.315
We all talk about all the things that are important for improving health.
00:44:56.335 --> 00:44:57.672
We all run MVX Plus.
00:44:58.353 --> 00:45:03.766
Yeah, and like- And you can be- … I know you, you've been on the show twice, so I feel comfortable with you, but you can only see so many people.
00:45:03.802 --> 00:45:05.750
There's only so many hours in the day, so- … yeah.
00:45:06.023 --> 00:45:06.396
Yeah.
00:45:06.940 --> 00:45:07.465
Awesome.
00:45:07.731 --> 00:45:08.210
Awesome.
00:45:08.260 --> 00:45:13.911
Before we wrap up this episode, anything else you want to add to the conversation or share with our listeners, Darren?
00:45:15.554 --> 00:45:17.041
No, not really.
00:45:17.436 --> 00:45:18.614
I think we're all set.
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All right.
00:45:19.896 --> 00:45:20.992
Thank you for being here.
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And ladies and gentlemen, like our slogan says, Listen.
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Do.
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Repeat.
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For Life! Don't just listen to the great information Darren shared with you, do it, repeat it each day, form those good habits, so you can have a great life in this world and eternity to come.
00:45:34.989 --> 00:45:36.701
So I'm David Pasqualone.
00:45:36.791 --> 00:45:38.025
I'm gonna go buy some liver.
00:45:38.563 --> 00:45:40.679
This is our good friend, Dr. Darren Schmidt.
00:45:40.898 --> 00:45:42.326
Darren, thank you for being here.
00:45:42.938 --> 00:45:43.639
You're welcome.
00:45:43.664 --> 00:45:44.494
Thanks for having me.
00:45:44.900 --> 00:45:45.423
Awesome.
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And ladies and gentlemen, we love you, God bless, and we'll see you in the next episode.
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Ciao!
