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Welcome to Daddy's Podcast. This is the Redefining
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Plastics Podcast. Welcome to the Redefining Plastics
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Podcast. My name is Justin Riney, and it's been
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a while. So, happy to be back. It's been a busy
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year. I want to talk a little bit about what
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I've been up to and why I've not been putting
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these together recently. But the primary thing
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I wanted to talk about is next week. I'm going
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to be at the National Plastics Conference held
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by the Plastics Industry Association. I will
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be on a panel. Then I'm also going to be recording
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podcasts live in a studio at the site. Not going
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to be on film, so all of those episodes are going
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to be audio only. I've got some exciting guests.
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We're going to have Pure Cycle. Going to have
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folks from the... Plastics Industry Association.
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I'm going to have some folks representing NAPCOR.
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And I also wanted to put it out there for anybody
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who's going to be at the show that has things
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that they want to talk about. Come find me. And
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I've got the ability to book some additional
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time in the studio while we're there either Wednesday
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or I believe Thursday morning as well. So if
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you see me, you see me wandering around the show,
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come talk to me. But it's next week. the 14th
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through the 17th. It's in Houston, Texas. If
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you're not going to NPC, you should be. It's
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going to be bringing all different parts of the
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industry together, a whole supply chain. So you've
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got purchasing folks, you've got sales folks,
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you've got companies that are involved in producing
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plastics or polymers. You've got people that
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are converting polymers into packaging. You've
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got machine manufacturers. It's a very diverse
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membership there, and I'm very excited to go.
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and check out the show and see what's there.
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It's been a while since I've been able to go
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to a conference, so it'll be nice to see people
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again. I've been pretty much stuck at home for
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most of the year, so it'll be nice to be out
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and about and to talk to people. But if you see
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me, do not hesitate. Please come out, talk to
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me, and I'm really looking forward to it. So,
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yeah, the podcast thing. I'm going to try to
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redouble my efforts into doing more redefining
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plastics this coming fourth quarter. I think
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the main issue I've had is I've been doing two
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jobs, really four jobs, if you look into all
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the different details. But I have been the chair
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of the Polystyrene Recycling Alliance, which
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I'm very proud of. I'm very proud of that organization,
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the people, what they're doing. And what we've
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been able to accomplish, there have been a lot
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of real big wins for the plastics industry and
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specifically for the polystyrene industry. And
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that's all supported by plastics, Plastics Industry
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Association. We roll up underneath them. And
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the biggest news we have recently is that the
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U .S. Plastics Pack has announced that they are
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removing, for the first time ever, removing a
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material from... the elimination list. Everybody
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thought it was impossible to do. But the efforts
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of the entire value chain of the polystyrene
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industry through the polystyrene recycling lines
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had been able to accomplish that. And there are
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a lot of people to thank and a lot of people
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to bring to the front here, but the membership...
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Of the Polystyrene Recycling Alliance, Ineostyrolution
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and EFP were both activators and are still activators
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on the U .S. Plastics Pact. And I will say that
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for the first year I was a representative for
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the company at the U .S. Plastics Pact, I was
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very frustrated. There was not a whole lot of
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communication. There wasn't a lot of outreach.
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We felt like our voices weren't being heard.
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That all changed with Jonathan Quinn first. Jonathan
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was a huge help in changing the way the U .S.
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Plastics Pact operates for the better. And I've
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been very pleased to see the direction that it's
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going. So big thanks to Jonathan Quinn, who's
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now out doing his own consulting thing now, and
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I'm sure he's doing great. But to the most recent...
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Executive Director of the U .S. Plastics Pack
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is Crystal Bayless, and she has been phenomenal
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to work with. I have been very pleased with the
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amount of transparency and collaboration between
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industry and that group. Our organization, PSRA,
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was able to put together business cases for EPS
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transport packaging and for rigid polystyrene
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packaging. Transport packaging had a case that
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just could not be denied. It's recycled at above
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30 % nationally. And that, in and of itself,
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removes something from the elimination list because
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there are very few polymers and applications
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that reach the 30 % threshold. And so there's
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still work to do there. We still need to work
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to get rigid polystyrene off that list. But I'm
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very confident. that our fact -based case is
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going to be heard by the U .S. Plastics Pact.
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And I'm very hopeful for the future in working
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with that organization. And so I think the big
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thing I wanted to talk about is just EPS transport
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packaging in and of itself. For anybody that
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doesn't know what EPS transport packaging is,
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whenever a washing machine, refrigerator, what
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have you, is shipped from the manufacturer to
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the distribution center for home depot lowe's
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what have you best buy that material is collected
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at the distribution center once the washing machine
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is removed or the dryer or whatever it is is
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removed from the packaging it is densified which
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means it's put into a machine it's pressed to
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where it's 40 to 1. So now it isn't a brick that
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is heavy enough to ship anywhere nationally.
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And that industry, the EPS industry as a whole,
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has done a lot of work of building a truly circular
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economy. They built the entire reverse distribution
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chain where they dropped in densifiers in key
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locations. That material is collected, and it
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gets back into EPS transport packaging and other
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polystyrene packaging. And it's a huge undertaking
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on the part of folks like the EPSIA, so EPS Industry
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Alliance, which is a huge organization. It's
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not a huge organization. It's a small organization.
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But they do a ton of really good work. And I've
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been very, very happy to work with them over
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the last several years as well. But EPS transport
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packaging is very important. It reduces weight
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in shipping. It actually reduces damage in shipping.
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There are studies out there that show if you
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go from EPS transport packaging to molded fiber,
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not to bash on molded fiber, but that's typically
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what you see as the next logical step. that material
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does not protect as well. And if you have one
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damaged washing machine, I don't care what packaging
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you use, that's going to be a much worse outcome
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for the environment than anything else. So EPS
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is a material that cannot easily be replaced,
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and it should not be replaced, and it's being
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recycled, and it will continue to be recycled.
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And the effort of the industry is to continue
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to expand that. And that's what we need to be
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doing. And that's what I want to focus on the
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rest of this year. In all of the discussions
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that I have, we're going to get back to our basics
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here, back to the roots of we're going to talk
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about recycling and how we make it work. Because
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so many people in the world today don't believe
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that it works. They think that it's a scam, specifically
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young people, because they've been told their
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entire lives it's a scam. And I'm here to tell
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you it's not. And with the right partnerships,
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with the right people. and the right assets and
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capital, we can make this work. And I think we
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can make it work nationwide, not just for EPS
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transport packaging. We're talking polystyrene
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rigids. We're talking polypropylene rigids, polyethylene.
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Whatever material is not what's considered highly
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recycled today can be with the right investments.
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And that's what I'm all about. That's what I
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want to do. Because I don't think a world in
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which we replace plastics with other materials
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is a better world. I think it's actually going
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to be there's going to be more environmental
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degradation from that. And we need to solve our
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problems. And our problems are mostly a public
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relations problem. Not to say that there aren't
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things that we need to solve, but most people
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hear things and then they assume that our material
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is bad. And we need to change that. And that's
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what I'm here to do. That's what I want to do.
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So there's going to be a real short, quick episode.
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I really just wanted to highlight the fact that
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I'm going to be at the National Plastics Conference.
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I'm going to be recording probably four or five
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episodes there. And then when I get back, I'm
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going to start putting out weekly again. So I'm
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really excited to get back into the swing of
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things. I'm able to get back to doing some of
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this stuff that I love to do. I love to interview
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people. I love meeting new people through this
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medium and just talking about how we make our
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world a better place. And that's what I'm going
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to continue to do. So if anybody has anything
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that they want to talk about or they feel like
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there's a topic that I'm not covering that I
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should be, reach out. Leave a comment in the
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YouTube video or send me an email through my
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website, TheRedefiningPlastics .com. I would
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love to hear from the audience. What do you want
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to hear about? What do you want to learn? Who
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do you want to talk to? I know what I find interesting,
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and I know the people that I want to talk to,
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but I want to know who you want to hear from.
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So let me know that. If you're at MPC this next
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week, come up to me. Let's talk. Let's talk recycling.
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I learn a lot from every interaction that I have,
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and I'm always wanting to learn more about this
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stuff. With all that said, very short episode
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today. Just kind of a quick update on what's
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happening, what we're doing. PSRA is a huge success.
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Very pleased with that. We've got a lot more
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work to do. And so if you're in the polystyrene
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industry and you're not involved, please help
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us with the RIDGID. Help us with all of the other
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efforts that we need to continue to expand polystyrene
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recycling in North America. And then NPC. I'm
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really excited about that. And so I'll be seeing
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more of you, and hopefully you all will be tuning
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in here over the next couple weeks. With all
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that said, my name's Justin Riney for the Redefining
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Plastics podcast. We'll see you next time. If
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you want to learn more about the plastics industry,
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recycling, check out these other videos. Please
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