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John Amaechi OBE didn’t pick up a basketball until he was 17. Within a few years, he was playing at the highest level of the sport in the NBA.
But John doesn’t see his story as proof of natural talent. Instead, he credits the people and environments that allowed him to discover what he was capable of, and believes far too many people never get that opportunity.
Founder of APS Intelligence, organisational psychologist and author, John has spent his second career studying what enables people and leaders to perform at their best.
In this conversation with Georgie Ainslie, he challenges the idea of the “natural leader” and explains why extraordinary leadership is built through behaviours that can be observed, practised and learned.
They discuss why potential is so often overlooked, how class and stereotypes influence who we see as talented, why leaders need to become better at difficult feedback, and the difference between genuine vulnerability and simply admitting defeat.
John also reflects on the extraordinary journey that took him from a small basketball gym in Manchester to the NBA, why he never actually fell in love with basketball, and why retiring from the sport ultimately felt like freedom.
His latest book, It’s Not Magic, argues that great leadership isn’t mysterious. The skills can be understood, developed and repeated.
This is a conversation about leadership, human potential, identity, feedback and the people who help us become capable of more than we imagined.
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Who is John Amaechi?John Amaechi OBE is a psychologist, author, speaker and former NBA basketball player. After retiring from professional sport, he moved into psychology, leadership and organisational consultancy.
How old was John Amaechi when he started playing basketball?John says he first picked up a basketball at 17, before eventually moving to the United States and reaching the NBA.
Does John Amaechi believe great leaders are born or made?He is unequivocal: great leaders are built. He argues that the behaviours associated with effective leadership can be identified, practised and learned.
Why does John Amaechi think potential is often missed?John argues that people make assumptions based on labels, background, class, accent, race, gender or occupation, which can prevent them from recognising someone's underlying ability.
What does John Amaechi say about giving feedback?He believes giving useful feedback is a basic leadership skill that too many managers avoid because it feels uncomfortable. Withholding important feedback, he argues, can ultimately harm the person receiving it.
What does John Amaechi mean by vulnerability in leadership?For John, vulnerability isn't about collapse or helplessness. It's about knowing and clearly communicating the specific areas where you lack knowledge or expertise, allowing others to contribute.
What is John Amaechi's book It's Not Magic about?The book explores the behaviours and skills behind extraordinary leadership, challenging the idea that great leaders possess some mysterious innate quality.
Did John Amaechi enjoy playing basketball?Interestingly, he says he never truly fell in love with basketball itself. He loved many of the people and experiences around it, but describes feeling a great sense of freedom when his NBA career ended.
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