S02 EP19: Tom Parry

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Hello, I'm Josh Whitacombe.
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And I'm Rob Beckett.
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Welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell. The show in which Rob
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and I discuss what it's like to be a parent
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during lockdown, which I would say can be a little tricky.
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Yeah! Yeah!
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So, in an effort to make some kind of sense
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of the current situation... And to.
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Make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills.
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Each episode we'll be chatting to a famous parent about
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how well they're coping.
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Or hopefully not.
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And we will be hearing from you, the listener, with
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your tales of lockdown parenting woe.
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Because, let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing. Hello,
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you are listening to Lockdown Parenting Hell with... Zoom Rob.
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Beckett.
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And Josh. There you go. That is Stanley.
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Stanley.
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His parents, you may remember Rob, friends of the show,
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were the parents who failed to clean their munchkin 360. Oh, yeah.
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Any new listeners, check that munchkin out.
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Check your munchkin out. You can clean them. Stanley's now
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one and a half. And Rob, you'll be distraught to
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know that that is a video and he's wearing a
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Barcelona kit.
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Oh, I'm jealous.
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So jealous. There's two kits upstairs.
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Oh, two unused kits.
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I carried them around on a pub crawl.
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Did you?
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Yeah, because I got them on the pub crawls. I
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thought I won't go back past that shop. You know,
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like when you're pissed and you have to remember something
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and you really cradle it because you know that you
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will just forget it. I reckon I've lost every umbrella
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I've ever taken out.
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Oh, an umbrella is a complete write-off. Give it up.
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It's just not possible.
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Just launch it. As soon as it stops raining, pick
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it up and just launch it into the road.
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Yeah, not a hope.
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What's your week been like, Josh?
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Yeah, fine, fine. Enjoyed filling in my census.
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Oh, look, Lou did that for me. I didn't even
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do mine. God knows what she put.
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Yeah, well, it was interesting, Rob, because it asked me
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to describe my job and I wrote the word podcasting.
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At one point.
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And I thought, boy, in a hundred years, they'll be
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looking at that going, what the hell was that?
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Well, do you know what's funny? I was tempted just
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to completely lie in the census so that when they
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do like, who do you think you are in a
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hundred years time? And if someone I'm related to becomes famous,
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they'll be like, this wacky chap lived on his own.
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And he did that. But I didn't. Lou did it
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because she's sensible.
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I've got big news from nursery, Rob.
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Oh, yeah.
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Go on.
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Can we get some sexy music.
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Underneath, please?
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You can't have sexy music for the nursery, mate.
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You can, because it's news about Saran.
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Oh, thank God.
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Saran, the absolutely hot nursery worker.
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Yeah, the hot French guy.
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Do you think he could get any hotter? Well, dear parents,
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this was the email I received on Wednesday. I'm writing
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to let you know that, very sadly, our lovely Saran
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is going to be spreading his wings and flying the
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nest soon.
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Ooh.
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Saran, this is unbelievable, has been headhunted by an independent
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skate school and offered a position as a freelance skateboarding
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teacher working with young children in Hackney.
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Oh, my God. I mean, that's a dream job for Saran,
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isn't it? Isn't it? So he's a skateboarding teacher.
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He's been headhunted. He's now a skateboarding teacher to children
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in Hackney.
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Wow.
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He's the dream man, Rob.
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What is the demand for a skateboarding teacher in Hackney?
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Well, enough for that he's quit this job.
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Wow, good luck to him. Good luck to him. He'll
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be the next Tony Hawk.
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I watched a documentary on Tony Hawk on Saturday night.
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Yeah, everything okay? You all right? What happened to the
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blur one? Where at the tape?
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No, we wanted to watch the documentary.
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Wait, you watched it on the roast? Yeah.
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She used to work in a skate shop when she
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was younger, so she had a vested interest.
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Did you like Jackass? Did you ever watch Jackass together?
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Yeah. I love Jackass.
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She used to go out with Steve-O, actually.
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No, who did? Stacey Sullivan. What? Stacey Sullivan met Steve-O
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on the jump, and they dated for about a year.
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And then she got off with Joe Swash. What a double.
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Wow.
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Wow. Steve-O is going to make absolute mincemeat of our cupboards.
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All assorted cupboards. Steve-O's not going to stand for that.
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Imagine Steve-O seeing a bag of crisps on a peg.
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He'd call them potato chips anyway, but he wouldn't suffer that.
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I once watched one where he was in a buggy
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going across a bumpy desert or field or whatever, having
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a tattoo.
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That's not the kind of guy that's going to respect
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a jar with spaghetti written on it. He'll put penne
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in there.
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He'll put penne in there. I watched a documentary on
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Tony Hawk. Anyway, I had nothing on it, Rob. It
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just came out. You said Tony Hawk. I thought, well,
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that's a coincidence.
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Yeah, I used to play the computer game.
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He kept using the word rad and he's in his 50s.
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I thought that was unacceptable.
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Yeah, I mean, I think he might be the new
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Tim Westwood. I've got one story from this week, which
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is quite sweet and sad at the same time. My
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daughter keeps coming back from school. They get lunch at school,
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but they have a snack box thing. And we put
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in it like an innocent smoothie and like a little
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pack of like biscuity things that aren't proper biscuits, but
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like healthy biscuits. Anyway, she keeps coming back and she's
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not eating them. And then like a yogurt as well.
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I was like, you're not hungry, don't you want it?
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And then she came back about four days in a row,
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not eating it. We didn't think anything of it. And
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then on the fourth day, I said, don't you like
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eating that? You're not hungry at break time. She went,
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I am, but I just can't open it. And she's
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not been able to open it. the food or and
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she's not allowed to ask her friends to help because
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of covid and all the teachers.
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Oh my god oh that is heartbreaking.
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I know oh bless her but um yeah so i'm
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sure she'll be fine be one of those things where
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the kid goes oh yeah i can open it and
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doesn't doesn't think about it ever again but as a
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parent you're like weeping inside and start thinking about how
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can i break in so i can put that straw
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in a.
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Smoothie oh that's heartbreaking rob i know better um Do
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you want some emails?
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Yeah, but.
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How to help Josh with his naming dilemma. Firstly, excellent
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job with the podcast. I count down the days for
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each new show. As a new dad of a seven-month-old twins,
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it's keeping me just about sane.
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Oh, my God. Jesus Christ, mate. Also, you know, every episode,
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the kids will be a week older.
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Do you know what I mean?
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So it's like you're just getting through it. But I
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don't think you should get through it. I've looked at
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a photo of my daughter when she was about four
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months old. I literally had no recollection of that day whatsoever.
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I look like I've been kidnapped. It's PTSD.
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With a kid on the horizon, Rob, I keep thinking
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back to like, so what was it? And I have
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no memory of that first period. I remember the colic.
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I remember the screaming and listening to Mellow Magic, the
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late night magic radio station, while trying to get her
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to stop screaming, which might have been the problem in
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the first place.
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The problem is you won't have this podcast to listen to.
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I won't have this podcast to listen to.
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Because other people can listen to this rather than magic.
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I am.
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And hear about it all going wrong for other people,
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but you're just constantly going wrong for you and you
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talk about it going wrong and you never get the payoff, Josh.
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In a way, Rob, I'm quite excited about what this
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podcast is going to be like over the summer.
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I cannot fucking wait.
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You know, like when a band's released one good album
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and then you hear that the second album is actually better.
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That's the summer we're heading into. We've released, this podcast
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has done its one good year But I get the feeling,
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touch wood, that it is about to enter absolute carnage
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for me, which will be entertaining.
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And I am praying for the hottest summer on record,
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coupled with replacement parts for air conditioning units to be
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stuck in a customs nightmare at Calais.
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I've decided I'm going to record lots of voice notes
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as it's going on, because I'm not.
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Sure I'm going to remember it all.
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So each... Each Tuesday and Friday, I'll just play you
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some voice notes to try and rebuild my week in
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front of you. Yes.
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And then we can work through it and see how
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we can help.
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Yeah.
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So go on. What's the name situation? This is Guy
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with Twins.
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Oh, yeah.
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The reason I'm writing is to help Josh with naming
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his new baby. Myself and my wife had the same
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arguments before the arrival of mine. We haven't had any arguments,
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thank you very much. My wife discovered an app called Kinder,
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which is basically Tinder for baby names.
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Well, that's spelt like the egg.
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Yeah, spelt like the egg.
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Okay. Okay.
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We downloaded it each and linked our profiles. It creates
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a list of names from all of your mash likes.
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Oh, that's good.
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That's nice, isn't it?
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Yeah. And then it's not a discussion. It's just totally
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separate thinking.
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Because what I worry about the modern world, Rob, is
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that there's too much chatting and not enough time spent
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on phones. So it's great to take this beautiful moment
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away from personal chat.
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Yeah, forget talking together, just communicate online.
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Yeah, and then why don't we bring, if there's an
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app which we could bring the baby up with, that
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would be ideal as well.
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Yeah, if there's an app that could take my wife
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to dinner, that'd be great. But let's clarify, it isn't
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Tinder for kids.
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It's not Tinder for kids.
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It's Tinder for kids' names. I just want to make
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clear that you're not expected to slide into the DMs
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of children to hook up for a walk. That is
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not what we're going for. We just want to get
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their names nailed down, isn't it, Josh?
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Yes, that is 100%.
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Just make that very clear.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Hi, Josh and Rob. Love the podcast. I thought
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I'd let you know we picked our baby names. During
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lockdown one, we found out we're expecting babies. Yes, babies. Twins. Identical. Oh,
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my God. We often struggle to agree on names. Almost
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all of mine got thrown out early doors using the
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veto rule. Milo and Casper. As did his girl's suggestions.
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Chelsea after his football team.
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No way. No, no, no. Not at all. No, thank you.
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Milo and Kasper sounds a bit like, you know, when
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the World Cup or the Olympics has mascots and they're
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like weird little cartoon characters. Milo and Kasper. It sounds
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like they're one's a running spike and one's the track
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and then he lays down and the other Milo runs
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over Casper.
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My husband is so certain that the babies are going
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to be boys that he doubles down I get to
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choose the girls names he gets to choose the boys names.
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Wow that is a high risk game.
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I don't think I think you've got to have something
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you're both happy with I don't think you can be
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gambling Scan day comes. I ask the scan technician to
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write down the genders because lockdown means I'm alone. We
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open the envelope at home. It's two girls. Obviously, my
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husband then wanted to open a second round of negotiations.
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Of course he did. Article 50's drop, mate. Gutted. Theresa
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May crying, handing in her resignation. I fucked it.
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I had already ordered personalised hats with their names on.
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Just in case they were girls.
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Oh, so what did they go for?
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Very nice names. Poppy and Violet were the names.
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Poppy and Violet's much nicer. Milo and Casper sound like
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a pair of annoying YouTuber twats. Hey, Milo and Casper here.
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So I've got this great new drone and let's see
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how far we can fly it before it crashes into
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the sea. Shut up, Milo. I've got a question.
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Here as well.
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When we picked our names, we picked them before the
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child was born. Are you doing that or are you
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going to wait to see the baby, Josh?
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We are going to do that. That doesn't imply that
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we've moved any closer to it in recent weeks.
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I want to know, has anyone decided the baby's name
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once the baby's been born and then regretted it? Because
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at that moment, the woman's obviously exhausted and isn't thinking, right?
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She's flooded with pain and hormones and sometimes anxiety. gas
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and air or epidurals and you know that that is
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not great like if you're making a decision on something
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if you took away the fact a child is being
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born and you felt like you did after giving birth
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and someone said what do you want for dinner tonight
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you go oh leave it i can't think now But
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for some reason, you pick the most important decision of
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your life in that moment. So people must have regretted
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the names they gave their kid. And then did they
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keep it with regret? Or did they change the name
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like a week later after deciding when the baby was born?
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Because you're not thinking straight, surely, Josh?
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No, I agree. I think I want to get it done, Rob.
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I'm a doer.
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You're an efficiency guy.
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Get it ticked off.
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Because the baby doesn't look like a thing when they're born.
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It doesn't matter. Like, I want to know... I'd love
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to get emails in. Longest you know people who've gone
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without the name. I know people that have gone two weeks.
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Two weeks? That's a long old time. Yeah, I just
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want to get on with it then. No, just name it.
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Let's go. Let's keep this moving. Josh, it's time for
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our guest. It's the one and only Tom Parody.
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We recorded this one a while ago, Rob, but we
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had some technical problems with my record, which we finally fixed.
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Yes.
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So this... Which is, it's been like gutting because it's
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genuinely been, it was one of the best interviews we've
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ever done. It's absolutely brilliant.
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I'd say it's my favourite because it's a real moment
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in time interview where Tom's child's very, very young. And
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this is Tom Parry. And he's brilliant and so energetic
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and funny anyway, Tom, but also brilliant. they are so
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deep in the early stages of a new first child
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where they're doing mad things through the night. And you'll
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hear his schedule in a minute, but I loved it
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because it really, and he thinks his life's normal, but
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it will look back and realize how insane his schedule is.
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But it's so refreshing hearing someone think what they're doing
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is fine.
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We've got a lot of people that I want to
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rebook to see how it's getting on.
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Yes.
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And Tom would be right at the top of this.
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I wonder whether when we, When do we turn a
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year old? Maybe we should do a few anniversary recaps.
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Yes, because I think we need to speak to Daisy
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Mae Cooper again, because she has two children now, which
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would be great, especially for you, with your second on
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the way.
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Oh, yeah. And I think we need to speak to
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Alice and Izzy.
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Yeah. If there's anyone else you think we should check
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in on, let us know. But this is a great
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Tom Perry episode, and we've got some other great ones
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in the can. So, yeah, we've got some excellent ones
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coming up. But, yeah, this is a cracker. And, yeah,
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it's one of my faves. Hello, Tom Parry.
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Hey, dudes. How you doing? Good.
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How are you?
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Well, am I the newest parent you've had on? I'm
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six weeks into being a parent.
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Oh, yes, you are.
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Yeah, so here I am. Yeah, so I haven't listened
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to the podcast because I have just become a parent,
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so it didn't apply to me until now. So, yeah,
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I've just come off my– I'm on a night shift
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at the moment, so I've got a six-week-old daughter. I
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had her until five. And then I woke up about
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half an hour ago, so it feels like it's 8
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o'clock in the morning for me. Right. Right now.
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So what are you doing in the early hours of
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the morning for those night films?
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I did the Tom Hanks Da Vinci Code trilogy. Absolutely
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scraping the bow. The first, I don't know... I don't
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know if you guys are the same, but when my
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daughter's called Gloria, when she first came along, I was like,
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I'm going to watch all the best films with you.
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I'm going to talk you through all the best films.
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It's going to be like rediscovering cinema. So I sat
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for the first week watching my favourite films. But by now,
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I've just run out of films to show her. So
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it's just any old shit. We'll stick any old shit on.
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So what's Gloria doing when you're watching these films?
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She sleeps. She sleeps really well on someone at the moment.
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And it's like... And it's like, we can put her
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in this, we've got this beside me cot and we
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can put her in that, but we get less, like
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Jane gets less sleep because she's, you know, she's up
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and down. So instead, I get three hours kip in
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the evening, and then I kind of get into this
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night shift. And then every three or four hours, I
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take her up for a feed and come back down.
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But I am absolutely loving it. I feel like a
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student again, because it's like I'm staying up all night.
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You can eat whatever you like. It's like 4 o'clock
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in the morning, and you're like, I'm going to bang
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on a Kevin Costner film. You just think, oh, I
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haven't done this since university. LAUGHTER Oh, absolutely loving it.
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Right, let's be clear. What hours are you keeping? I
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want to know your shift pattern.
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Like about half ten, eleven till five. That's kind of
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the shift on. So I get three hours before that.
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I go to bed at about seven, get as much
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sleep as I can in the evening. Then I get
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up at about ten, then I'm on the night shift.
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I try and get through till five. LAUGHTER i'm so
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sleep deprived i feel like i'm on drugs i feel
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like i feel like it's the final day of glastonbury
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it's just like every day every day it's got like
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this gentle hum to it where i feel like i'm
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like slightly buzzing off my face because i just haven't
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had any sleep it's amazing and And then the other
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thing I do is I watch BT Sports. I really
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want to work on a show that's like New Dad
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Sport Report because I end up watching... The other day
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I cried at an Australian Rules football game.
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I didn't know who was playing.
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LAUGHTER I didn't know who was playing, but it was
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just like, I don't know the rules of the game.
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It was like, there was like a last minute win
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and it was just like, oh wow, the magic of
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sport glow. Florian, this is what live sport's all about.
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But it's just like, I didn't have a fucking clue
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what was going on. It's amazing. When she sleeps, she's
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just fast asleep and I just talk to her. I
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don't know if you remember the early days. How old
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are yours now?
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Five and three.
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She's three.
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You're through this bit, aren't you?
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Tom, this isn't a normal thing that all parents go through.
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We're not all sat up watching Fast and Furious till 5am.
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LAUGHTER Yeah, there's a critical phase where I've got one
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of those donut pillows. Well, Jane has. It's one of
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Jane's donut pillows. There's been several occasions now where Gloria,
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because like I've got like, I've put on a lot.
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I mean, I'm always a bit overweight, but I've put
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on a lot of weight in lockdown, right? I haven't
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weighed it, but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you
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this how much, right? I had to do a day's
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filming the other day and it was supposed to be
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filming in February. And I'd given my costume measurements and
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I went in and they said, so you said you
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were 36 waist? And I said, yeah, but I think
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I'm probably 38 now. So they gave me 38 and
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I didn't fit 38. I've been proper daddy. So.
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So upon wait, and now glory out, there's nothing worse
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than when your baby daughter stirs on you and like,
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I've got enough breasts for her to think that there's
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milk in there. So the other night, she properly started
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trying to have a go at my nipple because she
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figured there might be some milk in there. Was there
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any milk in there?
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Did she strike gold?
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Well, skin on skin is very important, Josh. They preach that.
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They preach it. I don't know if it was that
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back in your day, but skin on skin is essential
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for bonding, not just for the mother, but also for
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the father. That's what they say. Yeah, that's what they say.
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There's got to be a cut-off date. There's got to
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be a cut-off date, though, isn't there?
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Yeah, I don't know when. I'm not going to pick
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her up from school, topless.
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I'll drive you home because you're waiting to do your
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driving lesson.
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He's at the house. When she graduates, when she graduates,
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I'll have the old top around the head.
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Exactly.
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You need it just to get your head in the
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game for A-levels. You know, it's good for your development.
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Piggybacking it to school, skin on skin. But yeah, so
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like I'm holding her. I hold her in like a
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cradle type setup. But then there's a critical stage where,
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I get her, I let go of her and put
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her onto the donut pillow that's around me so that
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I can have both hands free. Yeah. And that's like,
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that's like the pivotal. Cause if she doesn't wait when
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I do that, then I know I'm in for a
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good three hours.
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A good three hours, just yourself at night on your
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own in a way. It, I'm starting to get slightly
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jealous of your routine.
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Oh, I've got like a routine. That's the thing you crave.
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As long as you've got some kind of system. then
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you can kind of get through, you know, it doesn't
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feel like chaos. So like I have two flasks. I
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have one from, I have a flask for my right
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hand and a flask for my left, just in case.
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You sound like one of them, like 50 stone men.
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They've got that around them.
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Yeah, that's how I feel. I have a flask for
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the left hand, flask for the right, in case, it
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depends on what side I've got.
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So what's in the flask?
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That's water. And then I've got a thermos pint mug
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of coffee. Thermos pipe mug of coffee. That stays warm
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for a good hour and a half. That's in front
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of me. Two satsumas and a biscuit. Right? Two satsumas
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and a biscuit, and that's me then, set up.
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Carrot, partner milk.
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I can get till five o'clock on that. It's only
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when I know she's entered into deep sleep, like when
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both of her hands have come up by the side
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of her head. When she gets into deep sleep, both
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her arms come up like she's celebrating. That's when you
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know she's deep sleeping. That's when I can go for
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the crinkly wrapper.
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Yeah, okay. You could be a bit more adventurous.
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Yeah, because I've done that a bit too early back
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in the day. No, that's no good. Too early for
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the crinkly wrapper.
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00:21:28.730 --> 00:21:31.029
There was a stage where when mine was so small
492
00:21:31.069 --> 00:21:33.210
that I could cradle her in my arm still and
493
00:21:33.490 --> 00:21:36.880
play FIFA. I could get the controller in my hand
494
00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:39.220
while still holding her. And that was a great moment.
495
00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:40.400
But then when she got a bit too big for that,
496
00:21:40.420 --> 00:21:42.880
it was terrible. But that was a great couple of weeks.
497
00:21:43.259 --> 00:21:45.299
And you have to temper your celebrations, I bet. Yeah.
498
00:21:48.809 --> 00:21:51.490
I had to turn the vibration off the controller, just like,
499
00:21:51.509 --> 00:21:53.670
you know, you start getting shot at, and your arm's going.
500
00:21:53.690 --> 00:21:56.650
So you go to bed at 7pm, and then what
501
00:21:56.690 --> 00:21:57.630
happens at 10pm?
502
00:21:57.869 --> 00:22:00.910
Jane comes up, Jane comes and gets me, because sometimes
503
00:22:00.970 --> 00:22:02.480
she'll go a bit later, she'll be able to get
504
00:22:02.500 --> 00:22:04.680
to half ten, but she comes and gets me.
505
00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:06.980
So there's this point where you're both up together, and
506
00:22:07.019 --> 00:22:09.720
she's passing the baton, like a kind of baby relay race.
507
00:22:10.019 --> 00:22:14.160
Yeah, that's the transition period, yeah. So Jane sits with Gloria...
508
00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.039
And then I get myself set up. The flasks go
509
00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:20.660
in first, the satsumas. Then while the coffee's on the go,
510
00:22:20.779 --> 00:22:23.119
then I finish the coffee, come in. Sometimes I'll have
511
00:22:23.140 --> 00:22:25.059
a hot meal then. So like I'll either have a
512
00:22:25.099 --> 00:22:27.680
Pizza Express pizza, which is half price at the moment,
513
00:22:27.700 --> 00:22:31.660
which is absolute jackpot for me. Pizza Express pizza's half
514
00:22:31.700 --> 00:22:34.950
price at this stage in my baby's life is absolute jackpot.
515
00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:38.289
That's an easy thing to eat quick as well.
516
00:22:38.529 --> 00:22:40.269
Yeah, and I've got cockies. I started putting a fried
517
00:22:40.309 --> 00:22:44.150
egg on the Florentina. They've done a Florentina, right? Again,
518
00:22:44.230 --> 00:22:47.819
perfect timing. So sometimes I'll fry an egg and bang
519
00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:49.380
it on top of the Florentina, treat myself.
520
00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:52.240
That's nice. And what are you watching the films on?
521
00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:54.420
Is it headphones? Or are you having it loud in
522
00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:56.279
the room when they're deep asleep?
523
00:22:56.500 --> 00:22:59.920
So depending on the film, I'll use subtitles because if it's...
524
00:22:59.940 --> 00:23:01.990
So you're watching in silence? If it's got a bit
525
00:23:02.009 --> 00:23:04.569
of action. No, no, just like small amount of volume.
526
00:23:04.630 --> 00:23:06.630
But like, for example, the Da Vinci Code, there's a
527
00:23:06.650 --> 00:23:10.890
lot of exposition. I needed subtitles. But like, it depends.
528
00:23:10.930 --> 00:23:12.890
Like I'm picking my films kind of to do with like,
529
00:23:13.089 --> 00:23:15.450
if there's too many gunshots and stuff, then I won't
530
00:23:15.470 --> 00:23:17.940
watch it. So like, you know, I've been doing quite
531
00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:21.089
a bit of like, Some sports films are good. You
532
00:23:21.109 --> 00:23:23.009
think about, I've been choosing, I think there's a reason
533
00:23:23.029 --> 00:23:25.250
I've been watching Tom Hanks films and Kevin Costner films.
534
00:23:25.289 --> 00:23:27.900
It's kind of like, their voices are kind of quite,
535
00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:30.339
I think they're quite healthy voices for GLOW to be
536
00:23:30.380 --> 00:23:32.000
hearing at this stage in their development. Do you know
537
00:23:32.019 --> 00:23:32.299
what I mean?
538
00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:32.400
Yeah.
539
00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:38.700
Well, we were at this stage early on where she
540
00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:41.240
just wouldn't go to sleep without being near one of
541
00:23:41.339 --> 00:23:43.250
us like this. So we was doing shifts. And I
542
00:23:43.250 --> 00:23:46.910
remember once, when we had our first, I was recording
543
00:23:46.970 --> 00:23:49.650
Taskmaster and I was on a tour that I was
544
00:23:49.710 --> 00:23:53.250
driving myself to and from. So I remember once I
545
00:23:53.269 --> 00:23:55.880
drove to Cardiff, did a show, drove back from Cardiff,
546
00:23:55.910 --> 00:23:57.130
got home at one in the morning. And as I
547
00:23:57.150 --> 00:23:59.799
walked through the door, Lou just gave me the baby.
548
00:23:59.819 --> 00:24:01.680
And when I'm going to sleep, I'll take her back
549
00:24:01.740 --> 00:24:05.400
at 6am. I was just holding this baby.
550
00:24:05.420 --> 00:24:11.579
This is going to be bad. Absolutely brutal. Yeah, I know.
551
00:24:11.670 --> 00:24:13.640
And I was just like, you know, I'd had her
552
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:15.240
all day and I was like, I've just driven to
553
00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:17.440
and back from Cardiff and I've got to get up
554
00:24:17.460 --> 00:24:19.539
in the morning and try and get to a microwave
555
00:24:19.859 --> 00:24:27.500
without walking because Alex Thorne thinks it'll be funny. It
556
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.579
was that PTSD where I just can't even remember that
557
00:24:29.619 --> 00:24:30.559
period of my life.
558
00:24:30.779 --> 00:24:33.640
Yeah, it's a blur, isn't it? I mean, I think
559
00:24:33.660 --> 00:24:36.380
the key to why I'm enjoying it so much is like,
560
00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:38.710
I know lockdown has been tough for a lot of people,
561
00:24:38.730 --> 00:24:42.410
but it's been an absolute perfect time to have a baby.
562
00:24:42.630 --> 00:24:45.829
We didn't plan getting pregnant. It was like a surprise.
563
00:24:45.890 --> 00:24:47.769
I'm not going to use the word accident. It was
564
00:24:47.809 --> 00:24:48.329
a surprise.
565
00:24:48.349 --> 00:24:57.119
You've only known her nine months, haven't you? Yeah.
566
00:24:57.160 --> 00:24:58.740
So we found out at the end of January that
567
00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:01.609
we were pregnant. And then obviously lockdown and everything went mental.
568
00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:01.740
Yeah.
569
00:25:02.259 --> 00:25:04.059
And it was a perfect time for Jane to be
570
00:25:04.099 --> 00:25:06.380
pregnant because she was like furloughed and not having to
571
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:09.480
leave the house. And then lockdown lifted a little bit
572
00:25:09.509 --> 00:25:11.150
when she was in her third trimester. And then baby
573
00:25:11.170 --> 00:25:12.869
came along and we got into second lockdown. And it's
574
00:25:12.910 --> 00:25:15.309
pretty amazing because I don't have to, I literally, you know,
575
00:25:15.349 --> 00:25:17.349
we can't go anywhere. So we would have been in
576
00:25:17.390 --> 00:25:20.410
this lockdown stage anyway. And crucially, I tell you, one
577
00:25:20.490 --> 00:25:22.589
of the big things is people can't come round and
578
00:25:22.630 --> 00:25:25.069
visit us, which from like a few of my friends
579
00:25:25.089 --> 00:25:26.710
who've had babies before have said like, that's the real
580
00:25:26.730 --> 00:25:30.240
ball ache is when... you've barely slept and people turn
581
00:25:30.380 --> 00:25:33.259
up and be like, let's see the babies. Yeah, but
582
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:35.960
we're like on lockdown. So you just kind of go, oh,
583
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:36.500
it's fine.
584
00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:39.099
Drop stuff at the front door and fuck off.
585
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.240
I want dinners. I want movies.
586
00:25:42.349 --> 00:25:45.069
I want presents and a kid, but I don't want you.
587
00:25:45.089 --> 00:25:46.470
Get out of my house.
588
00:25:46.990 --> 00:25:47.930
You can't say that, can you?
589
00:25:48.269 --> 00:25:50.309
You've got these people coming around and they've had a
590
00:25:50.390 --> 00:25:52.809
full night's sleep and we're meant to stay up. We're
591
00:25:52.829 --> 00:25:54.930
meant to make them tea. It's unbelievable.
592
00:25:54.950 --> 00:25:59.099
Absolutely. That's right. But yeah, that's it. Like the naps,
593
00:25:59.619 --> 00:26:01.640
if anyone messes with your nap, then it's kind of critical.
594
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:03.759
So it's like that. Yeah. So it's been sweet being
595
00:26:03.779 --> 00:26:04.460
on lockdown, really.
596
00:26:04.539 --> 00:26:06.240
So what work are you doing? Are you managing to
597
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:08.180
do much work in a day, Tom? Or is it
598
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:10.349
just odd bits of filming here and there?
599
00:26:10.569 --> 00:26:12.430
Well, yeah, because I, so like, obviously I get to
600
00:26:12.450 --> 00:26:14.849
bed at five. I'll do, yeah, I'll do three hours.
601
00:26:14.869 --> 00:26:18.109
Then I'll get to bed five o'clock and sleep till nine. Like,
602
00:26:18.130 --> 00:26:19.490
you know, or half eight.
603
00:26:19.509 --> 00:26:20.630
Do you fall asleep okay?
604
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:24.559
Oh yeah, absolutely, mate. Like a light sleep. And I'm
605
00:26:24.579 --> 00:26:26.799
next to the changing table as well. So like, so
606
00:26:26.819 --> 00:26:29.410
like the setup in our bedroom is like beside me
607
00:26:29.470 --> 00:26:32.970
cut on Jane's side and changing table on my side.
608
00:26:33.029 --> 00:26:34.930
Cause that was like, we were kind of planning out
609
00:26:35.009 --> 00:26:36.690
and we were like, I'll probably be doing the nappy
610
00:26:36.730 --> 00:26:38.900
changing and you'll be doing the feeding. So let's have
611
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:40.339
the side be cut on your side and the nappy
612
00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:41.839
on my side. But like the problem with that now
613
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:43.339
is I get to bed at five and I get
614
00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:46.039
into bed and then Jane's got glow and she's a
615
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.789
bit more stirry at that time in the morning. And
616
00:26:48.849 --> 00:26:52.130
so I have a lot of changing action going on
617
00:26:52.289 --> 00:26:54.440
next to me when I'm having my sleep. That's the
618
00:26:54.500 --> 00:26:55.839
only bit where it's a bit tough.
619
00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:56.619
That's the drawback.
620
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:58.500
That's a lot of stuff in one room.
621
00:26:59.500 --> 00:27:02.930
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, we moved. We're not in
622
00:27:02.970 --> 00:27:04.490
our own house at the moment, basically.
623
00:27:04.829 --> 00:27:06.529
Where are you? What's the setup?
624
00:27:06.549 --> 00:27:11.009
We moved in with my mother-in-law in February to get through, like,
625
00:27:11.089 --> 00:27:14.109
lockdown this year. So I'm in Exit Time. Oh, my God.
626
00:27:14.450 --> 00:27:15.380
In my mother-in-law's house.
627
00:27:15.430 --> 00:27:20.740
How are you so happy? How's it been, all right? Like,
628
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:21.980
you know, cut the shit, talk to me.
629
00:27:22.259 --> 00:27:22.740
It's been.
630
00:27:23.349 --> 00:27:24.730
I'm just trying to think who's going to listen to this.
631
00:27:24.970 --> 00:27:27.829
It's been intense, but it's been all right. That's what
632
00:27:27.849 --> 00:27:28.569
I'd say.
633
00:27:28.589 --> 00:27:30.490
That's fair, though, because even if you've got the best
634
00:27:30.509 --> 00:27:34.200
relationship ever, is that a difference of opinions? It's like anything,
635
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:36.539
isn't it? Everyone's got the same goal of, like, keep
636
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.799
the baby happy and healthy and sleeping and stuff, but
637
00:27:39.299 --> 00:27:41.519
everyone does stuff in different ways, don't they?
638
00:27:41.579 --> 00:27:42.740
Exactly. And it's frustrating.
639
00:27:43.539 --> 00:27:44.319
Have you tried?
640
00:27:44.339 --> 00:27:47.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think? Do you think?
641
00:27:48.980 --> 00:27:50.119
at the moment i'm going.
642
00:27:49.980 --> 00:27:52.289
To bed at seven for three hours and i'll stay
643
00:27:52.309 --> 00:27:54.049
up till five and i'll go to bed again so
644
00:27:54.210 --> 00:27:55.890
do you think i might have thought this may not
645
00:27:55.930 --> 00:27:58.890
be the ideal scenario do you think i'm doing this
646
00:27:58.970 --> 00:28:00.910
because it's the second best option.
647
00:28:03.859 --> 00:28:07.119
Mommy but it must be good though having that support
648
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:09.240
network there for you and jane right yeah because rose's
649
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:11.490
mom helped out with our daughter and it makes a
650
00:28:11.589 --> 00:28:12.450
huge difference.
651
00:28:12.789 --> 00:28:14.569
You know, like when they say that TV chefs don't
652
00:28:14.609 --> 00:28:16.859
really do their own cooking, they've got like, they've got
653
00:28:16.900 --> 00:28:19.059
like a home economist who does it all for them,
654
00:28:19.180 --> 00:28:21.019
really for the cameras. That's how I, that's, that's how
655
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.980
I feel. Like me and Jane are like having like
656
00:28:24.059 --> 00:28:27.150
the kind of on camera kind of parenting experience where
657
00:28:27.430 --> 00:28:29.480
we're spending all the time we go, but like, Thelma's
658
00:28:29.509 --> 00:28:31.609
just been she does all she's been cooking the meals
659
00:28:31.670 --> 00:28:34.349
she's been doing the laundry and it's like that I
660
00:28:34.369 --> 00:28:37.150
mean like fuck it the muslins the amount of muslins
661
00:28:37.230 --> 00:28:40.029
we've been getting through where we were expecting like everyone
662
00:28:40.049 --> 00:28:41.750
kept buying us muslins and we were kind of like
663
00:28:41.769 --> 00:28:43.349
we get it okay thanks yeah we've got quite a
664
00:28:43.349 --> 00:28:45.190
lot of muslins now and then people kept buying us
665
00:28:45.210 --> 00:28:47.829
muslins and like it was like okay yeah muslins but
666
00:28:47.910 --> 00:28:52.150
fuck me you need those muslins and like no I
667
00:28:52.190 --> 00:28:54.430
don't know how I've ever lived my life without muslins
668
00:28:55.369 --> 00:28:57.170
why do people just wait until babies come along to
669
00:28:57.230 --> 00:29:01.009
use muslins they're fucking amazing don't you spill something bag
670
00:29:01.049 --> 00:29:03.809
of muslin on there you just like fucking dribbling want
671
00:29:03.829 --> 00:29:06.009
to wipe your hands get a fucking muslin chuck it
672
00:29:06.049 --> 00:29:08.819
away they're fucking incredible shit i don't know i haven't
673
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.599
had it all my life it's like it's like but
674
00:29:11.619 --> 00:29:14.460
like there's a constant stream of muslin washing going on
675
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:17.599
so like and yeah thalma's been so it doesn't.
676
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:18.980
Help doesn't it all that stuff then you could just
677
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:20.319
focus on the baby and stuff.
678
00:29:20.180 --> 00:29:22.759
Yeah exactly but we are operating based so look because
679
00:29:22.779 --> 00:29:25.539
we didn't want to intrude on on thalma's house too
680
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:27.930
much like obviously we've got our bedroom and then There
681
00:29:27.970 --> 00:29:31.539
was like a downstairs room that Thalma wasn't using. So
682
00:29:31.539 --> 00:29:34.740
we've turned that into like our little den. So that's
683
00:29:34.740 --> 00:29:38.019
where that's where I do like, you know, moving marathons.
684
00:29:38.460 --> 00:29:38.759
All right.
685
00:29:38.779 --> 00:29:39.839
So you go down to that room.
686
00:29:39.859 --> 00:29:41.779
So space is a bit of a preview. Like we're
687
00:29:41.819 --> 00:29:43.259
operating out of two rooms really.
688
00:29:43.940 --> 00:29:46.039
Oh, so what's the plan then Perry? When are you
689
00:29:46.059 --> 00:29:46.640
going to move out?
690
00:29:46.900 --> 00:29:51.029
Oh my God. You sound like my dad. The plan. Oh,
691
00:29:52.089 --> 00:29:53.869
bloody hell. I wasn't expecting this from you, Josh.
692
00:29:53.910 --> 00:29:57.930
Um, Because you're buying a house. I mean, having a
693
00:29:57.990 --> 00:30:01.869
baby and buying a house in lockdown, that must be stressful.
694
00:30:01.950 --> 00:30:06.490
Oh, yeah. Yeah, we had the offer accepted two days
695
00:30:06.529 --> 00:30:11.490
before Jane went into labour. And we were trying to
696
00:30:11.529 --> 00:30:16.329
resist Jane being induced. Jane wanted as natural birth as possible.
697
00:30:16.609 --> 00:30:20.950
And it was a mad time because they kind of
698
00:30:20.970 --> 00:30:22.690
put this thing on you where they say, monitor the
699
00:30:22.750 --> 00:30:27.059
movements of the baby. And if they change, then tell us.
700
00:30:27.220 --> 00:30:29.839
And so like Jane said, oh, the movements have changed.
701
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.740
They've softened, but there's still a lot of movements. And
702
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.000
they were like, right, we're going to induce you now.
703
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.259
And Jane was like, well, no, I'm not due yet.
704
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:39.039
And I want to wait. And they were like, we're
705
00:30:39.059 --> 00:30:42.019
going to induce you. And like everything we read said like, look,
706
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.220
they're super keen to induce you. You don't have to
707
00:30:44.259 --> 00:30:47.109
do that if you don't want to. So Jane said
708
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:48.769
to the doctor, I don't want to be induced. I'm
709
00:30:48.789 --> 00:30:52.779
going to wait. And they effectively said, well, on your
710
00:30:52.819 --> 00:30:55.839
head be it kind of thing. And we were– so
711
00:30:56.099 --> 00:30:59.609
obviously we were freaking out because Jane knew she was
712
00:30:59.619 --> 00:31:01.309
doing the right thing because she could tell the baby
713
00:31:01.349 --> 00:31:04.230
was healthy and she didn't want to induce. But, like,
714
00:31:04.289 --> 00:31:06.990
the doctors were really– it was a weird amount of pressure.
715
00:31:07.369 --> 00:31:09.890
So we had this week where Jane had said no
716
00:31:09.910 --> 00:31:15.390
to a deduction and I was supporting that decision, but.
717
00:31:15.430 --> 00:31:19.839
Like– It's tough to not support your wife's decision when
718
00:31:19.859 --> 00:31:20.599
you live with her mum.
719
00:31:20.859 --> 00:31:22.180
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
720
00:31:22.220 --> 00:31:24.779
Guys, I know we're discussing stuff. I know it's your house, Selma.
721
00:31:24.980 --> 00:31:27.000
I've got a few ideas. Let's sit down and talk.
722
00:31:27.380 --> 00:31:29.920
It's your house, it's your body, but I want to talk,
723
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.630
all right? LAUGHTER It's your house, it's your body, but
724
00:31:33.650 --> 00:31:41.400
it's my opinion, all right? LAUGHTER so like Jane had
725
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:43.460
a phone call from the hospital saying from a midwife
726
00:31:43.500 --> 00:31:44.819
who said look we really think you should come in
727
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.420
for this induction Jane said stood her ground and said
728
00:31:47.500 --> 00:31:50.559
no and then put the phone down and burst into
729
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:53.200
tears and was like literally like the emotion was like,
730
00:31:53.220 --> 00:31:56.400
what if I'm killing our baby by doing this? And then,
731
00:31:56.700 --> 00:31:59.299
and then my phone went and I answered it. And
732
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.849
the estate, it sounds like I'm exaggerating. Jamie's on the
733
00:32:01.890 --> 00:32:03.569
bed in tears. My phone went, I answered it. My
734
00:32:03.589 --> 00:32:08.670
estate agent went, great news. I said, I said, what?
735
00:32:09.380 --> 00:32:11.200
The offer's been accepted on your house. And I was like,
736
00:32:11.220 --> 00:32:14.099
I'm like, I mean like it's, It's a lean, put
737
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:16.220
it this way, it's a lean year anyway. So like this,
738
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.039
trying to get this offer on this house is like
739
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.400
by hook or by crook anyway. And on some mornings
740
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.019
I'm like, am I going to be able to afford this?
741
00:32:22.059 --> 00:32:24.180
It's like, that's already a source of stress.
742
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.299
You have great news, you've got the house.
743
00:32:26.380 --> 00:32:30.700
And I was just like, oh, okay. Oh God, okay.
744
00:32:30.740 --> 00:32:36.410
Can I call you back? So then like two days later,
745
00:32:36.430 --> 00:32:39.490
Jamie went into labour and then we had glow. It
746
00:32:39.509 --> 00:32:42.619
was only about five days after that. And then someone
747
00:32:42.660 --> 00:32:44.740
emailed me saying, we need some papers from you that
748
00:32:45.029 --> 00:32:48.650
I kind of realised we bought a house. I'm like, oh, yeah,
749
00:32:48.690 --> 00:32:52.109
we bought a fucking house, didn't we? It's just like, oh, God.
750
00:32:52.690 --> 00:32:56.029
It feels like everyone bought a house in Exeter during lockdown,
751
00:32:56.069 --> 00:33:00.529
so an Exeter can't cope. Exeter's just like, the people
752
00:33:00.549 --> 00:33:01.769
in Exeter are like, oh, my God, we need at
753
00:33:01.789 --> 00:33:05.049
least three months to process all of this. It seems
754
00:33:05.089 --> 00:33:08.589
like that was the immediate reaction of like 40% of
755
00:33:08.650 --> 00:33:11.309
London was like, I'm going to go and live in Exeter.
756
00:33:12.789 --> 00:33:16.569
I've never felt more like I'm having a breakdown. Like, literally.
757
00:33:16.849 --> 00:33:19.609
And this is from a guy who sits.
758
00:33:19.490 --> 00:33:24.430
Awake with two flasks and two satsumas next to him. But, like,
759
00:33:24.450 --> 00:33:26.250
we got back. We went on honeymoon and spent all
760
00:33:26.329 --> 00:33:28.809
our money. In January, we spent all our money on honeymoon.
761
00:33:29.329 --> 00:33:31.470
I'm thinking, that's great. I've got some work coming up
762
00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:32.730
and everything will be fine. So we got back to
763
00:33:32.779 --> 00:33:34.819
London absolutely broke. But on the last day of honeymoon,
764
00:33:34.859 --> 00:33:38.720
we found out we were pregnant. I was like, ah. Oh, okay. Yeah,
765
00:33:38.740 --> 00:33:41.039
that's okay. We have just spent all our money, but
766
00:33:41.059 --> 00:33:44.440
that's okay. And then the pandemic happened and we'd just
767
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.319
moved flat. So we'd moved into a new flat in
768
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.160
Crystal Palace. We'd been there two months. And then the
769
00:33:48.180 --> 00:33:53.029
pandemic happened and all my live work just disappeared. And
770
00:33:53.089 --> 00:33:57.970
Jane's job went, they sacked her. So Jane had just
771
00:33:58.029 --> 00:34:01.309
told them that she was pregnant and then the pandemic
772
00:34:01.329 --> 00:34:03.390
happened and then they were like, you're still on probation
773
00:34:04.109 --> 00:34:06.450
and this has happened. So Jane lost her job. All
774
00:34:06.470 --> 00:34:09.090
my work disappeared. And we were pregnant. And it was
775
00:34:09.110 --> 00:34:13.329
just like, what do we do? We thought lockdown was coming.
776
00:34:13.449 --> 00:34:15.849
It was like that time when no one really knew
777
00:34:15.869 --> 00:34:18.050
what lockdown was going to be. There was talk. Genuinely,
778
00:34:18.070 --> 00:34:21.079
Jane was getting texts from her lawyer friend saying, there's
779
00:34:21.099 --> 00:34:23.900
going to be tanks on the street or shit like this.
780
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:26.900
We were like, what the fuck? So we went to
781
00:34:26.940 --> 00:34:30.519
visit Jane's mom in Exeter for one final kind of
782
00:34:30.900 --> 00:34:33.599
just to see her. Lockdown was about a week away,
783
00:34:33.619 --> 00:34:36.230
they said. And we went to visit Jane's mom for
784
00:34:36.289 --> 00:34:39.429
one final time. And like on the drive back from Exeter,
785
00:34:39.989 --> 00:34:43.070
we got in the car and I said, here's the thing, right? Hypothetically,
786
00:34:43.250 --> 00:34:45.889
there is a world where we could move to your
787
00:34:45.929 --> 00:34:49.269
mom's house for like this year. And like, it started
788
00:34:49.289 --> 00:34:50.610
out as an idea. By the time we got out
789
00:34:50.659 --> 00:34:53.869
the car- we called our landlord and said like, we
790
00:34:53.929 --> 00:34:56.429
want to get out of the flat. And like, it just,
791
00:34:56.730 --> 00:34:58.750
it was like this kind of like immediate spur of
792
00:34:58.769 --> 00:35:01.030
the moment decision that I didn't really stop thinking about.
793
00:35:01.050 --> 00:35:04.400
Then within two days, I'd driven Jane back to Exeter
794
00:35:04.460 --> 00:35:06.639
because I didn't, again, it was like this thing of
795
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:10.340
her being newly pregnant in London when the pandemic was
796
00:35:10.380 --> 00:35:12.780
starting and it was like, what, what is this? I
797
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.570
was like, and so I did feel like I was,
798
00:35:15.710 --> 00:35:19.010
I've driven to Exeter. I drove to Exeter back like
799
00:35:19.110 --> 00:35:21.710
four times in five days, I think, or six days,
800
00:35:21.750 --> 00:35:23.929
something like that. And like the final time it was
801
00:35:23.949 --> 00:35:26.619
with a van and I just loaded all our stuff
802
00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:29.690
into the van. And it was the day, and it
803
00:35:29.710 --> 00:35:32.050
was the day they announced lockdown. So I announced lockdown
804
00:35:32.090 --> 00:35:35.739
and I was leaving London and I've never felt more like, well,
805
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.219
like I was in a fucking like disaster movie or something.
806
00:35:40.579 --> 00:35:43.079
So like I was mental. And then I arrived and
807
00:35:43.099 --> 00:35:44.780
it was like, we have this period of like, are
808
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.440
we going to fit in? You know, like, you know,
809
00:35:47.500 --> 00:35:50.000
Jane's mom, it's not like she lives in a country estate.
810
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.119
It's so funny. The amount of people from London where
811
00:35:52.179 --> 00:35:54.199
you go, we've moved to Exeter and they say, God,
812
00:35:55.190 --> 00:35:57.550
Must be so nice to be in the country. So
813
00:35:57.590 --> 00:35:59.510
nice to be in the country. It's like Jane's mum
814
00:35:59.530 --> 00:36:04.619
lives in a council estate in Whipton. It's like... I
815
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.699
don't correct people because, like, they... For some reason, you
816
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:09.380
say to anyone in London, you go, oh, we moved
817
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:11.219
to Exeter for lockdown. They're like, oh, man, that must
818
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:14.920
be so great. Countryside, the coast. I'm looking out the
819
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:24.920
window thinking, fucking hell, it's not that, mate. LAUGHTER It
820
00:36:24.940 --> 00:36:27.440
would have been mental trying to do it in London,
821
00:36:27.460 --> 00:36:29.559
the position we were in. So you just think, well,
822
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:29.980
why not?
823
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:31.940
Yeah, it's nice to have the help as well with
824
00:36:31.969 --> 00:36:34.340
the baby. It's like you say, the first baby and
825
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.550
in the middle of lockdown, you have that support network
826
00:36:37.650 --> 00:36:38.150
for Jane.
827
00:36:38.809 --> 00:36:41.570
Yeah, well, that's it. Because my family are all in
828
00:36:41.590 --> 00:36:45.610
Wolverhampton and then Jane's mum's in Exeter. And so we
829
00:36:45.650 --> 00:36:47.730
would have been, we would have been like properly isolated
830
00:36:47.750 --> 00:36:49.070
really in South East London. Like we've got mates.
831
00:36:49.710 --> 00:36:51.989
So is Jane doing a breastfeeding? Did you say Tom?
832
00:36:52.309 --> 00:36:53.030
Yeah.
833
00:36:53.389 --> 00:36:55.889
So what do you do when she's hungry on your
834
00:36:55.949 --> 00:36:58.440
shift and you take her up for a breastfeed? What
835
00:36:58.460 --> 00:37:00.360
do you do in that time? Do you stay, sit
836
00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:01.519
with her or do you get asleep?
837
00:37:01.539 --> 00:37:02.019
Do you eat?
838
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.320
Is that a big moment in your shift?
839
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.179
Yeah. It's quite critical really because you can't sleep because
840
00:37:07.219 --> 00:37:09.750
if you doze off while the breastfeeding is going on,
841
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:12.480
then it's very hard to get back into the zone afterwards. Yeah.
842
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:14.889
Do you know what I mean? So like, I want
843
00:37:14.909 --> 00:37:16.940
to preface this by saying this was before the Queen's
844
00:37:16.980 --> 00:37:19.860
Gambit came along, which makes me sound like a real mob.
845
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:22.139
But at the start of lockdown in February, I got
846
00:37:22.179 --> 00:37:24.780
really into online chess. Me and my old uni mate
847
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.280
used to play online chess. So we were like, let's
848
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.730
get back into that. So I've been playing chess all year.
849
00:37:30.110 --> 00:37:32.150
So when I'm starting to feel really tired on the
850
00:37:32.190 --> 00:37:34.690
night shift, I go on chess.com and you can have
851
00:37:34.710 --> 00:37:38.780
these kind of like intense... speed games with strangers. So
852
00:37:38.909 --> 00:37:42.889
sometimes I'll do that. So last night, I was playing
853
00:37:42.909 --> 00:37:47.409
this guy from Argentina and he's cropped up a few times.
854
00:37:47.449 --> 00:37:49.010
I think me and him are online at the same time.
855
00:37:49.070 --> 00:37:51.289
That's because it's daytime there.
856
00:37:53.010 --> 00:37:59.110
He keeps beating me, that's probably why. so like if
857
00:37:59.190 --> 00:38:01.030
I'm feeling like when I give when I give Gloria
858
00:38:01.070 --> 00:38:03.010
to Jane and she's having the feed I'll probably start
859
00:38:03.030 --> 00:38:04.650
a game of speed chess to kind of just keep
860
00:38:04.670 --> 00:38:07.150
me sharp until I get her back so last night
861
00:38:07.170 --> 00:38:09.449
I was at this pivotal moment and my clock was
862
00:38:09.489 --> 00:38:11.530
really running down I was like into my final four
863
00:38:11.550 --> 00:38:14.469
minutes and Gloria woke up and i looked at it
864
00:38:14.489 --> 00:38:17.570
i was like oh no not now like not now
865
00:38:17.610 --> 00:38:21.860
mate and like you know like like obviously she wakes
866
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.139
up and then you have this kind of grace period
867
00:38:24.179 --> 00:38:26.159
of like three or four minutes where she's just looking
868
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:28.480
around and it's really nice but it's once the tongue
869
00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:30.880
starts once the tongue starts coming out that's the sign
870
00:38:30.900 --> 00:38:33.159
that she needs food and it's like once that happens
871
00:38:33.179 --> 00:38:35.079
you're on a ticking clock because it's like once the
872
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:36.820
tongue comes out if you don't get to the boob
873
00:38:37.179 --> 00:38:39.579
within like four minutes or so, then there's going to
874
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.590
be screaming abdabs. So the tongue started coming out and
875
00:38:42.610 --> 00:38:44.869
I was just like, oh God. And I did it again.
876
00:38:45.130 --> 00:38:47.309
Like the clock was ticking down on this chess game.
877
00:38:47.750 --> 00:38:51.989
The tongue was coming out and she needed a nappy change.
878
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:59.190
I was just like, oh my fucking God. LAUGHTER Because, again,
879
00:38:59.210 --> 00:39:01.690
that's the system. You get her up, you change her,
880
00:39:01.829 --> 00:39:03.829
then you give her to Jane. We've been operating... Did
881
00:39:03.849 --> 00:39:06.349
you have a red light? We read somewhere, NCT told us,
882
00:39:06.610 --> 00:39:08.969
if you have a red light in the room, then
883
00:39:09.030 --> 00:39:12.960
it feels like the womb, so she stays calm. So
884
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:14.099
we bought this red lamp.
885
00:39:14.340 --> 00:39:16.039
So that anyone looking at the house from outside thinks
886
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:16.599
it's a brothel.
887
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:17.659
Yeah.
888
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:19.780
Also, Tom, I think you should start looking at things
889
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.420
that might make you feel calmer. Because at the moment,
890
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.449
this red aquarium you're in, playing chess.
891
00:39:25.789 --> 00:39:27.670
I feel like I'm in a David Fincher movie. Yeah.
892
00:39:28.250 --> 00:39:29.869
I think it's good to put your kid first. But,
893
00:39:29.889 --> 00:39:32.130
you know, self-care is important.
894
00:39:31.630 --> 00:39:37.739
As well, Tom. That's good advice, Matt. That's good advice.
895
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:38.179
I'm OK.
896
00:39:38.300 --> 00:39:40.280
I've got my flask and my satsuma.
897
00:39:40.460 --> 00:39:42.260
I've had a thermos point of coffee.
898
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:43.539
You're like an evacuee.
899
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:44.219
Send me out.
900
00:39:44.179 --> 00:39:47.000
To the country side and get these.
901
00:39:48.769 --> 00:39:52.070
Bed at seven. Get out.
902
00:39:53.849 --> 00:39:54.110
Yeah.
903
00:39:54.469 --> 00:39:54.949
I mean, that's it.
904
00:39:54.949 --> 00:39:56.900
I'm slightly, I'm slightly with like, at the moment, it
905
00:39:56.949 --> 00:39:59.219
all feels like we've done exactly the right thing. But
906
00:39:59.420 --> 00:40:02.880
I think once, in fact, the vaccine, when they announced
907
00:40:02.900 --> 00:40:05.440
the vaccine, I was like, oh God, that's going to
908
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.260
be the end of it. Because like, yeah, I'm quite
909
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:10.860
nervous when things go back to normal. And I'm in Exeter.
910
00:40:12.699 --> 00:40:14.199
I'm like, oh God, what have I done?
911
00:40:17.659 --> 00:40:19.630
What I would say, though, is you're better off being
912
00:40:19.650 --> 00:40:21.969
in Exeter with someone that could do the childcare so
913
00:40:22.010 --> 00:40:23.630
that you can go out and have days out with
914
00:40:23.650 --> 00:40:26.420
Jade when we're allowed to than being in London with
915
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.039
no one where you're so near to the fun, but
916
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:30.940
you can't enjoy it. But Exeter is a great place
917
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:31.320
to go out.
918
00:40:31.340 --> 00:40:34.460
I love Exeter. yeah it's it's i mean it feels
919
00:40:34.500 --> 00:40:37.219
amazing and like you know when when the week before
920
00:40:37.260 --> 00:40:38.960
when when we were waiting for the baby to come
921
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.820
like we were we'd get in the car drive 20
922
00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:45.210
minutes and we'd be on on the beach we'd walk
923
00:40:45.250 --> 00:40:47.650
along the beach pop back home we'd go to dartmoor
924
00:40:47.670 --> 00:40:49.550
and stuff and it's like i just think i mean
925
00:40:49.769 --> 00:40:51.809
you think about a childhood and i just think we'd
926
00:40:51.829 --> 00:40:54.230
glow i just think every weekend it'll be like we
927
00:40:54.269 --> 00:40:55.880
can go to the beach we can go to the
928
00:40:56.389 --> 00:41:00.000
boards we can be like It's an absolutely beautiful place.
929
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:03.010
I must admit, I'm really excited. I never saw it coming.
930
00:41:03.230 --> 00:41:06.309
I've been completely blindsided by this whole year.
931
00:41:06.429 --> 00:41:09.090
It'd be a bit weird if you did see this
932
00:41:09.130 --> 00:41:09.650
year coming.
933
00:41:11.650 --> 00:41:16.900
He's just sunk all his money into Pfizer in the
934
00:41:16.980 --> 00:41:21.280
stock exchange. He's just bought a PPE company. What's PPE?
935
00:41:21.300 --> 00:41:26.840
LAUGHTER Well, what we'll do is when we do a
936
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:29.139
live tour of Lockdown Parenting Hell, we'll do a show
937
00:41:29.179 --> 00:41:31.019
in Exeter and you can be our guest, Tom, and
938
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:32.579
then you can take us out on the night out
939
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:34.219
and show us your new land.
940
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:35.440
Yeah, I'd love that.
941
00:41:35.500 --> 00:41:37.510
So since you're the newest parent we've spoken to, Parry,
942
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:39.619
Have you got any tips for anyone that's had a
943
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:40.420
baby in lockdown?
944
00:41:40.539 --> 00:41:42.239
Yeah, I mean, I think it's really interesting, isn't it,
945
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.960
parenting tips? Because ultimately, I don't want to sound like
946
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.659
a blokey bloke here, but I am really taking my
947
00:41:49.699 --> 00:41:53.500
lead off Jane, because if Jane's happy, Gloria's happy. And
948
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:54.719
so it's really interesting because.
949
00:41:54.739 --> 00:41:57.010
You're crying at Aussie rules football. You know, you're fine,
950
00:41:57.090 --> 00:41:58.539
aren't you?
951
00:42:01.730 --> 00:42:04.409
It's like, you know, that's all that matters really. So
952
00:42:04.449 --> 00:42:06.300
it's interesting when your, when your mates come through and
953
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:08.000
say like, Oh, have you tried this or this or this?
954
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.579
You kind of, you kind of feed, I feed that
955
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:13.039
back to Jane and be like, Oh, have we tried like, um,
956
00:42:13.380 --> 00:42:17.849
what's the swaddling for example? Like Crosby's, Crosby's big on swaddling. Yeah,
957
00:42:17.869 --> 00:42:22.349
he bought me a swaddle before Gloria arrived and was like, ah, swaddling, mate,
958
00:42:22.389 --> 00:42:25.340
swaddling's the way forward. So I was like, oh, Jane,
959
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.199
this is exciting. We can do some swaddling. And Jane
960
00:42:27.219 --> 00:42:31.119
was like, I'm not sure about swaddling. So I'm like, oh, yeah,
961
00:42:31.139 --> 00:42:32.860
so it kind of ends there, really. And then the
962
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:35.780
other day, I talked to Crosby about my night routine
963
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:37.510
and stuff, and he was like, have you tried that swaddling?
964
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And I was like, yeah, yeah, I might get swaddling again.
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But I don't want to get into a bun fight
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about swaddling.
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You know what I mean? LAUGHTER I would say, though,
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you and Matt Crosby are very different people, so I
969
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imagine the children you breed will be very different too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's it. I think, like, parenting advice and relationship advice
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are the two things that just don't really translate. You just, like,
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you know, like, you can't... You can see them, like, oh, well,
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I did this, and you're like, oh, well, that's good
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for you, mate. You can... Yeah, good to know.
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Shut up.
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Yeah, that's it. Exactly. Like, my brother's about to have
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a baby, and I'm trying to stop myself... from giving
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too much because like, you know, you do feel like,
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You do feel like you're in a position to give it,
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but like, you don't. Yeah.
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When do you feel like that? When you're holding your
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both flasks in the red glow with your biscuits, satsuma
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and a fried egg on a pizza.
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Is that the thing? I think I'm absolutely nailing this.
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To be fair though, I think the key thing is
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if you're all enjoying it and the baby's happy and healthy,
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then you are nailing it. And you sound a lot
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different to a lot of my friends that have got
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a six week old baby. So I think you're doing
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it right.
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Thanks for that.
992
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Now, Rob always likes to ask the same question at
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the end of each interview.
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Rob?
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Well, yeah, it was more to, you know, is there
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anything that Jane does, parenting-wise, that frustrates you and annoys
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you a little bit? But... Because it's all a bit tense,
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you can't really bring it up without there being a row.
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But if you were to mention it on the show
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and she heard and then changed what she did, I'm
1001
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sure she's got things that you do. Then is there
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anything you want to get off your chest at the moment?
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Oh, my God, this is a great idea for a feature.
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This is, you know, it's just a little thing that
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you just think, oh, I wish you didn't do that.
1006
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But you can't say or it'll kick off.
1007
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Yeah so basically so jane jane loves dogs right and
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uh i'm you know i'm not i'm not really a
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dog person she loves dog she stops and talks to
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dogs in the street all the time and i i
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end up talking to the dog's owner because like she'll
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be down there talking to the dog me and the
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dog owner are just kind of like how old she
1014
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was yeah i'm like oh literally that's why i go
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oh how long you had the dog and i go
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yeah however long and i go that's great no but
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When Jane is petting a female dog, she'll often use
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this voice and this intonation. She'll say, good girl, good girl,
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like that. Good girl, good girl. And she uses that
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with Gloria sometimes. So when Gloria burps, she'll say, good girl,
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good girl. And in my head, I'm like, she's not
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a dog. LAUGHTER You don't like the pressure cooker. Like,
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I'll know when I've snapped, it'll be when I actually
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say those words. She's not a dog. Because I've heard
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that phrase and that tone with so many dogs, like,
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good girl, good girl. And so, yeah, Gloria will latch
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on and start feeding. And Jenna will say, good girl,
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good girl. And that's all. That's it. Don't talk to
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our daughter like she's a dog. That's the voice.
1030
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It's so funny. Whenever we ask people that, everyone goes, oh, God,
1031
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I don't know. I can't think. And then immediately you
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have one.
1033
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1034
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Have you mentioned it to her? No.
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But I do think she's going to listen to this, though.
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Good girl.
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Good boy.
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I mean, good girl. Good girl.
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Did she ever say good boy to you?
1040
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Good boy. No. It's getting a bit too personal now, Rob. Sorry, Tom.
1041
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Wait till you move out the mother-in-law's. We might have
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to get Jane on just to see the other side
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of this. The interview could start with, yeah, I'm a
1044
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bit worried about him.
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LAUGHTER Is this an intervention?
1046
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LAUGHTER Thanks so much, Tom. That was brilliant. So fun.
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Oh, cheers, gents. What a pleasure. Cheers, mate.
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Thanks, mate.
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Bye. Thank you, everyone, for listening. See you next time.
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See you on Tuesday.
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Bye-bye.
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Cheers.
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Bye.