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Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
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Well, it was quite a weekend here at One leg
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of Ballex Media at Fanatics Best, but we're going to
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put that aside for the moment because now a bigger
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cause is happening. It's the Americans with Disabilities Act Anniversary Week,
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which is Sunday, July twenty six, twenty twenty six, and
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I thought addressing mental health is one of the perfect
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ways to start it. And I have with me the
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and I'm very honored to having me. By the way,
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the executive director of the American Psychiatric Association Foundation, Raoul
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Andrews Junior, esquire to talk about some interesting pilot programs
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going on in the city right now to address mental health. Firstly, Raoul,
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thanks for joining me at the One League of Alex
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Media podcast today.
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A thank you for having us. It's a privilege to
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be here.
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So tell me about this pilot program because I'm very intrigued.
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You know, I've seen homeless outreach teams do their best
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to try and make the homeless more comfortable, and I'm
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sure this goes beyond homeless, but I want to start there.
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But they don't really say yes to the outreach programs
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how will this program help those mental health is use
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on our streets. I want to start there totally.
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So one of the things that the APA Foundation does
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as the affiliated charity of the American Psychiatric Association is
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try to link psychiatry, science and community together so that
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we can get better outcomes. And so our Health and
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Healing Collaborative, which is funded by the Mother Cabrini Health
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Foundation right there in New York, paired us with Elevate
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Health so that we have a three pronged or three
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legged approach to doing something different that's been tried before.
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First of all, we have a bilingual outreach program, and
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so we're coming to audience's since and family caregivers in
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English and in Spanish. Second, instead of just saying we're
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going to meet people where they are, we actually are
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hosting or co hosting community events, mostly in houses of worship.
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And third, and most significantly, we have badged some of
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our psychiatry residents. These are young early physicians studying training
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to be psychiatrists. Were they going to actually be deployed
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across the Bronx in this pilot program to add capacity
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to work with faith leaders and peer navigators so that
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we're bringing all of the resources we have to bear
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on this very serious problem.
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Oh, it is serious, and you know, you look at
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the news today. There was a firearm, there was a
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smoke bomb with the FBI. I mean, there's a lot
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going on there and you look at that could be
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a mental health thing. So do you think your program
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could reduce crime?
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When we talk about serious mental illness, things that typically
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come up. You have overrun or over crowded emergency rooms.
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You have housing issues, particularly homelessness, and things like that
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that are attached to serious mental illness. And then in
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some instances we see justice involved. And while we're careful
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working with the APA not to automatically assume that every
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crime is a mental health thing behind it. As a
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matter of fact, we're working very hard to say, don't
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automatically criminalize somebody with serious mental illness because that helps
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feed and perpetuate stigma. But we do believe working with
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these faith leaders in the churches and other houses of
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worship that we've selected, that they're already talking to folks
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who are at life's edge, are losing hope. And we
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think by going to those trusted leaders and those trusted communities,
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we have a better chance to bridge those who want
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to help with those who need them.
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All right, well, I like that bridge. And obviously, you
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know some people are not wanting to help anymore because
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you go to someone and you offer some food or
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something like that and they say no. I mean, how
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do you feel this program is going to really get people?
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You know, I don't want going to say off the streets,
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but how do you get how do you get them
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going in the right direction. I guess what I want
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to say is some people do say no to programs
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like this.
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Well they do. And before we came to New York
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with the Health and Healing Collaborative, we already had some
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background experience with some testing we had done in Flint, Michigan,
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some testing we had done in Alexandria, Virginia, and some
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testing we had done in Memphis, Tennessee. And what we
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saw was faith leaders who were either privately or publicly
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begging for help from the medical community because they were
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taken on increasingly complex mental health concerns and they did
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not feel like they were equipped to do it. So
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the first thing we did alex we took a faith
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guide that we had before the pandemic and we updated
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it and made it bilingual, so we published a faith
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guide for faith leaders in English and in Spanish. Then
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the other thing we did was to get these trainees,
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these vanguard residents who are in our fellowship program, and said,
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we got a unique opportunity where you can actually give
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back while you're studying to be a psychiatrist, and if
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you would deploy with us, then what happens is they're
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working with faith leaders who the congregants already know, or
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the parishioners already know, or community members who may be
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around these communities but not truly a member of the house.
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They're working with peer navigators who actually are members of
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these congregations or pair uh. And then we're saying, again,
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we're not diagnosing on the spot, but we are trying
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to bring you some greater awareness of what the problems are.
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We're trying to increase your literacy around mental health issues.
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So it's not just some scary topic that we don't
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want to talk about or we don't talk about correctly.
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But more importantly, what are the culturally appropriate, geographic, accessible
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and affordable sometimes no costs tools, tips and resources that
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can help somebody or a family caregiver when crisis strikes.
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What we hope that's going to look like, Alex is
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start moving us out of the crisis management business and
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being in the everyday whole health business.
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Well, this is this is very intriguing. Now, the the
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the all these different community out you know, members and
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all that, and especially the psychiatrists. What's their approach like,
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how do they approach it? I feel like they're not
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the tough guy, they're the more softer, gentler approach. And
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does that work almost all the time? Do you find.
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Well, there's no one size fits off for any health situation,
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and mental health is no different. And so I have
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been on the ground in the Bronx in Flint, in Alexandria,
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in Memphis and actually seeing how our doctors working with
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faith leaders actually take that trust and start translating it
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into some meaningful help. Now, mental health issues are a spectrum,
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Alex and your audience should appreciate that. So you're gonna
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have some good days, you're gonna have some bad days,
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and you're gonna have a lot of blow days. And
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how do we navigate the yellow, the red, and the green.
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The way we do it is to try to break
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it down into our Notice Talk Act framework. This is
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a clinician supported but non clinician implemented framework that I
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call the stop, drop and Roll of mental health. So
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you don't have to become an expert in mental health
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in order to notice signs and symptoms of distress. In
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another you don't have to be a doctor to understand
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how to be a better active listener. So you can
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talk about a mental health concern that creates an invitation
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to take the first step to that bridge. And then
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most again, most importantly, a lot of times cost and
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awareness of where the locations of help are. We've already
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done a heat map already in the Bronx through our
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partners with Elevate Health there, and I would hazard to
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guess based on the last time I was in the Bronx,
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we probably rode by a walk by four or five
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clinics on the way to Manner of Life, on the
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way to Bronx Bethany, on the way to uc JC
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United Church of Jesus Christ, we probably walked by some
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of these very same facilities that can provide help, but
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people don't know what the building is or they're afraid
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to go in either because of their concern about mental
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health or because they're concerned about cost and they don't
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think they can afford it. We try to explain these
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things in a better way in English and in Spanish.
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When you're at those super sites in.
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The role, I want to ask you, I want to
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ask you the realest the difference between what we see
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and perceive is mental health issues, like someone randomly screaming
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a pensation or whatever. Like that 's the invisible mental
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health issues. I mean, there's a real difference there. And
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how do you how do you work with both? And
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what should we and what should the public look out for? Like,
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you know, we see the outside, but what warning signs
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should we say, Hey, this person might have a mental
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health thing, we should get them help, Like how can
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we find that if it's not right in front of
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our face?
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So the the easiest way to do that is to
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try to get those folks to one of our supersites. Again,
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that's Manner of Life Ministries Bethany or the UCJC community.
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But if you go to our website, Alex again, we're
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trying to demystify and destigmatize some of these issues. There's
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a lot of learning at APAF dot org. Slash faith,
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and I think if you go to the website on
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or off your handheld device, you can do it if
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a person really looks like they're in crisis. However, the
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easiest thing to do, particularly if you don't want to
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personally intervene, is to just call it text nine eight eight.
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The nine eight eight National Crisis Helpline actually connects you
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to a real person who's in community. So if you
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call nine eight eight right now about a situation, the
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person who you're going to be connected with is actually
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going to be a New Yorker.
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I want to ask you about the APA and the
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APA Foundation and how it helps, you know, suicide rates reduce.
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I don't know that that's part of this, but I
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feel like it can help the intervention. The work you
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guys are doing are helping people save lives.
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Really right, transform and save lives is absolutely correct. We
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are working with, among others, the American Foundation for Suicide
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Prevention in these programs, and so as a convener, we're
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trying to bring the resources to bear under the House
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of Worship so people don't have to have the scattershot approach.
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And while we don't have numbers on persons who've been saved.
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I am aware of at least one real time story
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last week where a person came to one of our
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super sites and they mentioned that they had been thinking
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about self harm, and over about a sixteen hour period,
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we were able to get that person some help. If
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we had not been there, I don't know whether or
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not they would have thought there was a safe place
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to reach out to bear their soul and try to
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get that help. So thank god we were there, but
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more importantly, thank god that the mother could any health
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foundation made it possible for us to be here, and
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that Elevate Health and our supersite partner were on the
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spot to provide the resources in real time.
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I really like that you're in the underserved communities because
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obviously those communities also may not be able to afford healthcare.
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So do you guys coming up with a free approach,
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a least expensive approach, because obviously the healthcare world is
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challenging as is, how do you guys differentiate it and
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make sure these people and people around the city get
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the help they need.
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The Health and Healing Collaborative that the APA Foundation run
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is a free resource. It comes to patients and family
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caregivers at no cost. And that is because the Mother
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Cabrini Health Foundation, which is based in New York, has
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provided the funding for us to provide these services. More
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importantly than that, though, because of the heat map that
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our team has put together, they actually can tell you
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if you come to one of those intakes scenarios, whether
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that's at a super site or one of our healing circles,
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where is the heat map? Tell you resources are that
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are free, where are the resources that are low cost?
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And if you have more resources, where can I go
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and get immediate help? And cost is no object. So
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all of that information is available because again not one
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size fits all approach, but it is like stop, drop
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and roll. The more we know, the more we're going
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to be able to get a better tomorrow.
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This foundation is very interesting because obviously psychiatrists and those
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of the medical fields face burnout. So how do you
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guys help support the psychiatrists that are going into the
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battlefields if you will, and helping all these people.
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One of the programs that the foundation run is called
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the Center for Workplace Mental Health, and we have a
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program called Frontline and Connect that directly addresses clinician burnout.
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Particularly since the pandemic. Again, our framework around burnout, like
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everything else, comes under the umbrella of our Notice Talk
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Act framework. Obviously, the steps to employ for clinician burnout
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are different than they might be for somebody who's struggling
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with a mental health concern outside the profession. But we
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are the reason why we have our Vanguard training program
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is because where we see the most need, particularly on
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the burnout spectrum, seems to be medical students and early
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career psychiatrists. They've gotten in, they know that they want
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to help save lives, but they didn't realize how burdensome
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sometimes the practice of medicine would be, and so we
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Act resources that are appropriate for a doctor. Amen to that?
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put the video away and help people, right. I mean,
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let me get you the right resource.
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you described, and it would be easier to call or
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text nine eight eight in those situations than to make
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sometimes people are in crisis, we have no idea why,
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and taking a video or a screenshot of them isn't
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getting them any closer to care. Nine eight eight. It
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took years to put nine eight eight together. It would
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be a shame to have that opportunity and not use
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nine eight eight to pilot in the Bronx with plans
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to expand beyond the rocks. But the reality of it is,
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if people don't use the resource, as you mentioned at
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first step to the bridge to a better tomorrow.
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Donnie and he's very big on mental health. Do you
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find support from the inmittration. Are you looking for support
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for the inmitistration on this or are you privately mainasure
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there's a private entity here.
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with the Mayor's Office of Public Engagement and the New
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York State Division of Human Rights and the New York
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State Office of Mental Health on this. So while it
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is a private enterprise through a nonprofit to bring the
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Health and Healing Collaborative to New York, we are bringing
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all of the resources that are available. And one of
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the things we learned since we started this pilot about
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six seven months ago, eighty percent of the patients that
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are being cared for by the New York Office and
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Mental Health suffer from a serious mental illness. So we're
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already talking about the same communities. And what we're trying
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you think, and you might be true, that we're not
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because we haven't acknowledged that we built silos. We haven't
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acknowledged that sometimes those silos are operating at the highest level,
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but then when they reach a fork in the road
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a soft pass or a warm handoff to another program
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or affiliate. We're trying to be that hub through the
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that you need that helps a patient or a family caregiver,
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we can provide that honor offline in English and in Spanish.
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All right, one more thing, because he's gotten a lot
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of heat about this encampment, whether to stop it or not.
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I mean, are guys involved, but being sure those ten cities,
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if you will, can come down that those people can
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get the right help. Are you being asked to help
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in those regards.
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We have not been asked to help, so I won't
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speak to it. Obviously, we're aware of it. But New
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York made Housing First a model for the nation, and
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we know that the Office of Mental Health and many
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others were behind that movement. So we pray and hope
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that there'll be a equitable resolution to that situation. But no,
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the APA and the APA Foundation have not been asked
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to help.
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Well, I'm so appreciative this update because we do want
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to help the mental health in the city. And you
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know we always have these awareness months. This is the
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AD month, but there is mental health Awareness Month I
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believe in March, but it never ends. The awareness cannot end.
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the conversation twelve months of the year, not just one
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month of the year.
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Every time we see here or tell a story about
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the human condition, we're talking about a mental health journey.
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will allow us to fully appreciate there is no health
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without mental health and if we need help, there's no
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harm and there's no sin and asking for it.
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Well, we appreciate you taking the time here at one
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look at alex Media to kick off ADA week to
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discuss this program. And I really want to see how
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this grows. And I love that back on six months
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from now and say hey, how is the program going.
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I love to get an update from you.
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We would love to give you an annual report and
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then talk to you a little bit about how year
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two is going to shake out. But I know that
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we wouldn't have the ability to get this word out
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without folks like you Alex. So We just want to
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thank you for making the time and the space so
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that we could get some more people from help.
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And you know what yared about smashing stigmas, I'm about
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that here at the podcast. So thank you for highlighting
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that you guys are trying to smash stigmas right alongside
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all of us here in the adaptive community.
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Thank you, sir.
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That was Rol Andrews Junior, the executive director of the
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American Psychiatric Association Foundation, here at one leg of alex
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Media to kick off eighty eight thirty six week Thanks
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so much, sir for joining us today. ROO.
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Thank you. God bless you, brother, God bless you
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Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
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Well, it was quite a weekend here at One leg
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of Ballex Media at Fanatics Best, but we're going to
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cause is happening. It's the Americans with Disabilities Act Anniversary Week,
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I thought addressing mental health is one of the perfect
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and I'm very honored to having me. By the way,
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the executive director of the American Psychiatric Association Foundation, Raoul
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Andrews Junior, esquire to talk about some interesting pilot programs
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going on in the city right now to address mental health. Firstly, Raoul,
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A thank you for having us. It's a privilege to
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So tell me about this pilot program because I'm very intrigued.
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sure this goes beyond homeless, but I want to start there.
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how will this program help those mental health is use
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on our streets. I want to start there totally.
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as the affiliated charity of the American Psychiatric Association is
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Healing Collaborative, which is funded by the Mother Cabrini Health
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hosting or co hosting community events, mostly in houses of worship.
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to be psychiatrists. Were they going to actually be deployed
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across the Bronx in this pilot program to add capacity
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to work with faith leaders and peer navigators so that
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we're bringing all of the resources we have to bear
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smoke bomb with the FBI. I mean, there's a lot
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some instances we see justice involved. And while we're careful
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crime is a mental health thing behind it. As a
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matter of fact, we're working very hard to say, don't
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automatically criminalize somebody with serious mental illness because that helps
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worship that we've selected, that they're already talking to folks
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who are at life's edge, are losing hope. And we
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these vanguard residents who are in our fellowship program, and said,
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the parishioners already know, or community members who may be
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the all these different community out you know, members and
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all that, and especially the psychiatrists. What's their approach like,
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how do they approach it? I feel like they're not
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the tough guy, they're the more softer, gentler approach. And
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into some meaningful help. Now, mental health issues are a spectrum,
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have some good days, you're gonna have some bad days,
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how do we navigate the yellow, the red, and the green.
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another you don't have to be a doctor to understand
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how to be a better active listener. So you can
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talk about a mental health concern that creates an invitation
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awareness of where the locations of help are. We've already
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partners with Elevate Health there, and I would hazard to
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clinics on the way to Manner of Life, on the
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United Church of Jesus Christ, we probably walked by some
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of these very same facilities that can provide help, but
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people don't know what the building is or they're afraid
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think they can afford it. We try to explain these
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ask you the realest the difference between what we see
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and perceive is mental health issues, like someone randomly screaming
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a pensation or whatever. Like that 's the invisible mental
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health issues. I mean, there's a real difference there. And
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how do you how do you work with both? And
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what should we and what should the public look out for? Like,
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you know, we see the outside, but what warning signs
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should we say, Hey, this person might have a mental
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health thing, we should get them help, Like how can
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we find that if it's not right in front of
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try to get those folks to one of our supersites. Again,
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that's Manner of Life Ministries Bethany or the UCJC community.
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trying to demystify and destigmatize some of these issues. There's
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a lot of learning at APAF dot org. Slash faith,
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and I think if you go to the website on
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or off your handheld device, you can do it if
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a person really looks like they're in crisis. However, the
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easiest thing to do, particularly if you don't want to
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personally intervene, is to just call it text nine eight eight.
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to a real person who's in community. So if you
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call nine eight eight right now about a situation, the
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person who you're going to be connected with is actually
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I want to ask you about the APA and the
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APA Foundation and how it helps, you know, suicide rates reduce.
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feel like it can help the intervention. The work you
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guys are doing are helping people save lives.
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Really right, transform and save lives is absolutely correct. We
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are working with, among others, the American Foundation for Suicide
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Prevention in these programs, and so as a convener, we're
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trying to bring the resources to bear under the House
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of Worship so people don't have to have the scattershot approach.
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And while we don't have numbers on persons who've been saved.
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I am aware of at least one real time story
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last week where a person came to one of our
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super sites and they mentioned that they had been thinking
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about self harm, and over about a sixteen hour period,
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we were able to get that person some help. If
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we had not been there, I don't know whether or
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not they would have thought there was a safe place
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to reach out to bear their soul and try to
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get that help. So thank god we were there, but
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more importantly, thank god that the mother could any health
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foundation made it possible for us to be here, and
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that Elevate Health and our supersite partner were on the
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spot to provide the resources in real time.
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I really like that you're in the underserved communities because
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obviously those communities also may not be able to afford healthcare.
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a least expensive approach, because obviously the healthcare world is
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challenging as is, how do you guys differentiate it and
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make sure these people and people around the city get
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the help they need.
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The Health and Healing Collaborative that the APA Foundation run
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is a free resource. It comes to patients and family
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caregivers at no cost. And that is because the Mother
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Cabrini Health Foundation, which is based in New York, has
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provided the funding for us to provide these services. More
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importantly than that, though, because of the heat map that
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our team has put together, they actually can tell you
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if you come to one of those intakes scenarios, whether
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that's at a super site or one of our healing circles,
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where is the heat map? Tell you resources are that
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are free, where are the resources that are low cost?
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and get immediate help? And cost is no object. So
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all of that information is available because again not one
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size fits all approach, but it is like stop, drop
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and roll. The more we know, the more we're going
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to be able to get a better tomorrow.
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This foundation is very interesting because obviously psychiatrists and those
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of the medical fields face burnout. So how do you
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guys help support the psychiatrists that are going into the
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battlefields if you will, and helping all these people.
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the Center for Workplace Mental Health, and we have a
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program called Frontline and Connect that directly addresses clinician burnout.
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Particularly since the pandemic. Again, our framework around burnout, like
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everything else, comes under the umbrella of our Notice Talk
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Act framework. Obviously, the steps to employ for clinician burnout
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are different than they might be for somebody who's struggling
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with a mental health concern outside the profession. But we
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are the reason why we have our Vanguard training program
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is because where we see the most need, particularly on
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the burnout spectrum, seems to be medical students and early
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career psychiatrists. They've gotten in, they know that they want
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to help save lives, but they didn't realize how burdensome
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sometimes the practice of medicine would be, and so we
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are providing them through our Frontline connect platform, Notice Talk
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Act resources that are appropriate for a doctor. Amen to that?
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All right, I'm sure you're going to agree with this.
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There are some where people just want to video someone
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out there who looks troubled, and I'm sure you're like,
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put the video away and help people, right. I mean,
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I feel like we got to stare away from like
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videoing all these people and just saying, hey, you need help,
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let me get you the right resource.
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I'm not judging anybody, but I'm aware of the scenario
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you described, and it would be easier to call or
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text nine eight eight in those situations than to make
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light of those situations by thinking that a picture or
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a video alone is going to provide some help. Because
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sometimes people are in crisis, we have no idea why,
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and taking a video or a screenshot of them isn't
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getting them any closer to care. Nine eight eight. It
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took years to put nine eight eight together. It would
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be a shame to have that opportunity and not use
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it again. Because of the Mother Cabrini Health Foundation, we've
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been able to bring these additional resources on top of
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nine eight eight to pilot in the Bronx with plans
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to expand beyond the rocks. But the reality of it is,
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if people don't use the resource, as you mentioned at
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the outset, it becomes harder to get the help they need.
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dot org, slash faith and it puts you on the
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first step to the bridge to a better tomorrow.
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might need some kind of help from that side. So
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and you know everything out I might disroom him on
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Donnie and he's very big on mental health. Do you
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find support from the inmittration. Are you looking for support
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for the inmitistration on this or are you privately mainasure
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there's a private entity here.
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with the Mayor's Office of Public Engagement and the New
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York State Division of Human Rights and the New York
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State Office of Mental Health on this. So while it
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is a private enterprise through a nonprofit to bring the
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Health and Healing Collaborative to New York, we are bringing
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all of the resources that are available. And one of
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the things we learned since we started this pilot about
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six seven months ago, eighty percent of the patients that
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are being cared for by the New York Office and
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Mental Health suffer from a serious mental illness. So we're
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already talking about the same communities. And what we're trying
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to do is bring together alex what we refer to
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as silos of excellence because one of the reasons why
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you think, and you might be true, that we're not
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as effective when we try these programs in the past,
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because we haven't acknowledged that we built silos. We haven't
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acknowledged that sometimes those silos are operating at the highest level,
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but then when they reach a fork in the road
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a soft pass or a warm handoff to another program
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or affiliate. We're trying to be that hub through the
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Health and Healing Collaborative, so that if it's a resource
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that you need that helps a patient or a family caregiver,
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we can provide that honor offline in English and in Spanish.
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All right, one more thing, because he's gotten a lot
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of heat about this encampment, whether to stop it or not.
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I mean, are guys involved, but being sure those ten cities,
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if you will, can come down that those people can
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get the right help. Are you being asked to help
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in those regards.
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We have not been asked to help, so I won't
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speak to it. Obviously, we're aware of it. But New
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York made Housing First a model for the nation, and
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we know that the Office of Mental Health and many
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others were behind that movement. So we pray and hope
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that there'll be a equitable resolution to that situation. But no,
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the APA and the APA Foundation have not been asked
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to help.
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Well, I'm so appreciative this update because we do want
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to help the mental health in the city. And you
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know we always have these awareness months. This is the
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AD month, but there is mental health Awareness Month I
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believe in March, but it never ends. The awareness cannot end.
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the conversation twelve months of the year, not just one
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month of the year.
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Every time we see here or tell a story about
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the human condition, we're talking about a mental health journey.
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will allow us to fully appreciate there is no health
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without mental health and if we need help, there's no
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harm and there's no sin and asking for it.
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Well, we appreciate you taking the time here at one
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look at alex Media to kick off ADA week to
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discuss this program. And I really want to see how
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this grows. And I love that back on six months
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from now and say hey, how is the program going.
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I love to get an update from you.
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We would love to give you an annual report and
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then talk to you a little bit about how year
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two is going to shake out. But I know that
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we wouldn't have the ability to get this word out
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without folks like you Alex. So We just want to
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thank you for making the time and the space so
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that we could get some more people from help.
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And you know what yared about smashing stigmas, I'm about
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that here at the podcast. So thank you for highlighting
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that you guys are trying to smash stigmas right alongside
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all of us here in the adaptive community.
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Thank you, sir.
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That was Rol Andrews Junior, the executive director of the
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American Psychiatric Association Foundation, here at one leg of alex
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Media to kick off eighty eight thirty six week Thanks
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so much, sir for joining us today. ROO.
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Thank you. God bless you, brother, God bless you
