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Speaker 1: Twenty eight to ten. Let's have a chat about Mount Barker murray Bridge commuting on a daily basis down the Southeastern Freeway, because something has to give, does it not? And this is following a chat on early breakfast this morning with Sam and Ned if you caught that between five and six am, if you were up that early, and I heard the last half of it. But interesting call is suggesting solutions to what needs to happen, and something does need to happen. Congested two lanes, it goes slow. You can't drive it one hundred and ten in peak hour. Usually a collision somewhere along the way that slows it down. Happens all too often anyway, and people will say, well get the train running, you need something now. The train on the existing line is a no goer in my view, and you only have to look at old timetables. A train from Bridgewater when they ran to Bridgewater, which isn't that long ago, an hour an hour into the city from Bridgewater from Mount Barker it was ninety minutes, so it's forty six now from Belair into the city on the train. So it ain't going to fly. It just isn't going to fly catching a train from the city, and you think about the train leaving the city. It goes northwest for about a kilometer before it switches to the south, completely the wrong direction. So the train on that track, maybe some other alignment. We've got the tunnel boring machines, maybe we should put them to use through the hills and create a straight line that would work and under the city. Frankly, so trains forget about it. You need something more direct. Love to get your point of view. David Leech is the Mount Barker District Council mayor. He is on the line, David, good morning.
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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, Matthew.
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Speaker 1: Well, what's it going to take? Is it a third lane all the way from Mount Barker to Stirling and down the freeway?
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Speaker 2: Matthew, there are many solutions that can be put towards the southeast through. Having that third lane would certainly be a big advantage. You could have a northern freight bypass where you'd take the heavy vehicles off of the freeway so that they can go up through the top of the Barossa and meet up again north of Adelaide, and by doing that you would get a lot of those heavy vehicles off of that freeway. We're the only major city that has b doubles and trucks running through the virtually the center of the town.
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Speaker 1: You know very well how congested it is at the moment, if you're traveling during peak hour, and whether you're on a bus, in a car, whatever at all, it's a croll. It is a croll it.
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Speaker 2: Is, and the amount of traffic's only going to increase on the Southeastern Freeway as my good neighbors in murray Bridge expand and Mount Barker itself expands. So the time to start planning to do something is right now. This Northern freight bypass will take seventy percent of the heavy, really head vehicles off of the freeway, and that is one solution to the congestion on the freeway. Another one, as you said, is that the third lane to go all the way through to Mount Barker, and then other methods that can be used to make the traffic work a little bit better.
00:03:18
Speaker 1: Okay, if you had unlimited budget, David, what would you do? Is it a direct train line? Would that help out?
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Speaker 2: I mean, that would be absolutely absolutely if I was If you said I had an unlimited budget, I'd put a Northern rail and freight by pass from just this side of murray Bridge around the top of the Brassa. So put the heavy freight and the heavy rail around the top, and that would free up that corridor for the train line, because you're quite right, you can't mix the rail and the passenger on the train line very well, and they would free up that passenger line into the city. Mount Barker is soon going to be the second biggest city in South Australia. And have a rail line that could come to Mount Barker and then on to murray Bridge would be a very good solution to the congestion on the freeway.
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Speaker 1: It does need a train line, I think Mount Barker, but I just can't see that existing alignment where it veers over to Balhannah and then around Eden Hills and Blackwood and it just completely the wrong direction of where people want to go. It might work for somebody going Mount Barker to Bridgewater or Belair or whatever, but coming into the city from Mount Barker on a ninety minute trip, no one's going to do that now they not.
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Speaker 2: But if you were to construct a monorail, you could make that rail line not go through the tunnels. You could speed it up a fair bit on a monorail, make it lean into the curves a bit like they do in many overseas countries. It's very achievable to have a fifty to fifty five minute train from Mount Barker to Adelaide, stopping its stations along the way. It's doable.
00:04:58
Speaker 1: Mona rail always reminds me of the Simpsons, I must say, and Shelby Ville pitt Well.
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Speaker 2: Life does imitatea.
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Speaker 1: It does, David indeed, all right, Okay, So that's it's the Council working with the governor. The government's big on buses and more buses, and that is the solution at the moment for mass transit in and out of Mount Barker. See only thing going. So are you working with the government on that to make that as achievable and free flowing as possible.
00:05:25
Speaker 2: We sure do. And I had talks with Premier Alaanaskis and the former Transport Minister Tom kits and tanas a couple of years ago on behalf of council and one of the solutions at the time was to bring in fast fifteen minute bus timetable from Mount Barker, so you can confidently go to any of the bus stations in the Mount Barker area and know that a bus will only be at the most fifteen minutes away throughout all of the day and the peak times down to seven minute in the bills. So there's been a massive uptake on people catching the bus into Adelaide from the Mount Barker region because they know that it's a frequency of travel. The buses are getting better. They put hybrid diesel buses on which are cleaner, more efficient and better to use. People are taking up the public transport option, especially with fuel going now back to over two three dollars a letter.
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Speaker 1: How far is Mount Barker going to expand David, do you have a Is there a council restriction on it at all? Is it a state government thing? Because you make.
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Speaker 2: Goment state government restriction. The boundaries have already been set in twenty ten and it's in the MDPA areas, which is a very clearly delineated shaft line around to the south and southeast of Mount Barker. And once you once you get to those boundaries, there is no more development a lab past those areas, So the area is already defined. We're going to be going from in the town itself from twenty five thousand to fifty thousand people pretty quickly, which takes us from the old sleepy town we were to the second largest city in the state.
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Speaker 1: That's unreal. You drive through now if you're heading, for instance, to Wisto down that whatever that road is past the back of the woolies there and you look down into that valley and the houses are just so tight, tightly packed in there. You think, is there a room for more for goodness sake?
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Speaker 2: But obviously, well, Matthew you we're only thirty percent.
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Speaker 1: Of the way through, are you really goodness.
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Speaker 2: So there's more than three times as many houses come and give you if you think there's a lot of people there on the outskirts of Mount bark and now wait untill there's three more times more people moving in there. And that's why we're campaigning very strongly and advocating with the South Australian government to provide the services with it need, not just for the freeway but for the town itself. There is a lot more to be done here and we're really keen to make this a Liverpool part of South Australia because it's pretty good living up here. That's why people are coming here.
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Speaker 1: MA think, yeah, well that's right obviously, that's right. Good on your David, appreciate at your time.
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Speaker 2: Thank you any time.
00:08:02
Speaker 1: By David Leach. Mount Barker District Council Mayor. Charles Mountain is the ARIA Senior Manager Road Safety. We're talking about transport infrastructure to keep the hills moving, particularly as you heard Mount Barker to get you know, only one third through in terms of new housing, two thirds to come. It's unreal. And Mount down the road murray Bridge rather is expanding at a rate of knots as well. Charles Mountain, good morning. What do we need to do to help people commute these distances?
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Speaker 3: Well, certainly I think the work that's already been commenced will go substantially a long way towards it. As the mayor was saying, there's been a big uptake and use of public transport and numbers reflect this. There's been a there's going to be a big investment in the bus fleet itself. So it's transitioning across to full battery electric operation in many cases or a high bridge as well. So the fleet itself is having a big upgrade and that's being reflected the numbers of passengers uptake for use as well. The other important thing, of course is the MetroCard scheme has been expanded to now include Barry Bridge. That makes that use of public transport much more cost effective for people beyond the parkle as well. So I think there is a lot happening and it's certainly paying dividends in terms of the uptake we're seeing. The freeway itself has technically it has a lot moren additional capacity, but it certainly has its challenges and people who use that cold or regularly will know what they are. So I think, for example, it's around thirty five thousand vehicles a day use the busier sections up from the toll gate to Stirling, So obviously at certain times the road is very very busy. The road itself, because because it goes through the Adelaid Hills, is quite susceptible to variable weather conditions such as I'm thinking this time of year we have low cloud range, sleek, slippery conditions, et cetera. So regular road users really do need to ensure that they drive to the conditions, use their lights, they slow down, and they most importantly, they keep the critical distance between themselves and the vehicle in front of them, so to avoid the sort of crash as we often see on the freeway, lots of tailgates and things like that. So I think overall the freeway has capacity. The work that's about to commence in terms of the managed motorway section I think will make a big difference as well, because that includes a lot of intelligent transport systems, so there'll be real time information available to motors about breakdowns, restrictions, et cetera. And also, of course there will be that opportunity to move lanes for longer term disruptions as well to keep the traffic flowing. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you'd be able to use the other side of the road in a sort of two way arrangement, which obviously would have speed restrictions imposed on it too, though, wouldn't it, which might keep it moving but right slowly.
00:10:51
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, those sort of that scheme we we expect will only be activated when there is a long term delay to warrant the the work that's required to implement that scheme. But the short answer is, lots of this is happening that work is scheduled to start later this year and the major works commencing in twenty twenty seven, so drivers will see the benefits of that. But overall, I think the freeway it sort of performs generally very well. We tend to forget that many, as I said, many thousands of people go up and down that freeway every single day without incidents, so providing everyone does the correct thing. The other important thing, of course, there's been a lot of work done to make the descent of heavy vehicles from that section of the lower section of the freeway much safer as well, so that certainly paid dividends in the reduction in the number of incidents we've seen on their corridor as well. Yeah.
00:11:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, Suggestions of trains, a lot of people texting in saying we need rail and if not that an obarn up to Mount Barker. Is that feasible do you think? And the cost would be enormous for both I imagine into the billions.
00:11:57
Speaker 3: Well, this is right now. Lots of schemes have been looked at to implement a passenger rail system to Ournt Barker, and I think most of the thinking is if it was going to be effective it would have to go much further than Mount Barker. So I guess once we see what happens with Murray Bridge, that might swing the dial if you like, to make it potentially a more viable system. But I think at the end of the day, for the foreseeable future of the bus system will be providing the bulk of public transport needs, and as I said, there are opportunities to make that more efficient. So certain things, as you said about PRAP giving buses priority some of the key intersections as well. But generally speaking, as I said, once they clear the toll gate and all things being equal, their runners generally can't inhibited. It's really just managing, to be honest, it's the final stretch from the toll gate coming down HS and Row. As I've known that very well because that's my regular bus route. You know pretty well where all the pinch points are. So generally speaking that provides a very good service. And I think, as to the Mayor's point, the frequency of bus services on that corridor makes it very very easy for people to simply jop on a bus and get to where they need to.
00:13:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people making the point, including Judas buses use the same roads equally affected by accidents. I mean, they can't get around a crash any more than a car can.
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Speaker 3: Well, no, this is right, and so that's why the real time information about incidents is so important and provides an opportunity for the public transport operators, for example, to reschedule reroute services which would potentially be impacted by the breakdowns or crashes, to sure level of service can still be maintained while that incident is addressed. So I think overall that will make a difference once it's fully implemented. Yes, I mean the train would be nice to have, but I think that the reality is providing a corridor where it can go because everyone's acknowledged that the existing rail corridor for a passenger service is just not feasible. It won't provide the level of service to people expecting this day and age. And if you look back in history, that was one of the reasons that the train, the passenger rail system up there progressively with it and died because it was so uncompetitive with the time it took for people to just simply pop in their car and drive down what was the early stage of the freeway. Even then, so it's simply why I cut it in terms of people with expectations today and as you say, creating a new corridor simply can't be justified in this day and age. We need public transport investment, to be honest, more to the north and south of Adelaide to meet the incredibly rapid growth that's happening.
00:14:41
Speaker 1: In those areas Concordia and down at ol Dinger for instance.
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Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, so we've already got an a rail corridor through there, So extending those corridors further and perhaps using buses to feed into that a rail spine to provide a good, reliable public transport service probably going to suit those developments more effectively.
00:15:03
Speaker 1: Child's fascinating. Thank you for your time, appreciate its. Charles Mountain from the RAA senior manager Road Safety looking at some of the options for the freeway for Mount Barker murray Bridge beyond. It's a great drive once you get past Mount Barker by if you go to murray Bridge or anywhere further southeast on that freeway, once you past Mount Barker about the only car it's great. It's just getting to Mount Barker that's a problem depending on the time of day. Heavy vehicle bypass via truro says Bill will take trucks off the freeway. Surely that will help. Signage. Warnings of delays on freeway need to be on roads leading up to it so people can take all turn routes and not get stuck again and again, says Andrea Higher. Quarter train last Friday from Sale in Victoria at a Spencer Street railway station in Melbourne two hundred and twenty kilometer trip three hours, says Peter. At Edwardstown, leone says two and from the hill satellite. Has anyone suggested multiple cable cars would it be feasible?
00:16:10
Speaker 2: I don't know.
00:16:10
Speaker 1: Leone kind of do like the idea of the Simpson's Mono rail that would be a better idea. I think that anyway, Why not have cable cars be good? Fund would they stop? Well, just kind of like the chairlift at the show you just had to hop on when it's still moving.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
00:16:33
Speaker 1: Anyway. We'll get to some of your calls more texts as well. Right after these words.
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Speaker 1: Twenty eight to ten. Let's have a chat about Mount Barker murray Bridge commuting on a daily basis down the Southeastern Freeway, because something has to give, does it not? And this is following a chat on early breakfast this morning with Sam and Ned if you caught that between five and six am, if you were up that early, and I heard the last half of it. But interesting call is suggesting solutions to what needs to happen, and something does need to happen. Congested two lanes, it goes slow. You can't drive it one hundred and ten in peak hour. Usually a collision somewhere along the way that slows it down. Happens all too often anyway, and people will say, well get the train running, you need something now. The train on the existing line is a no goer in my view, and you only have to look at old timetables. A train from Bridgewater when they ran to Bridgewater, which isn't that long ago, an hour an hour into the city from Bridgewater from Mount Barker it was ninety minutes, so it's forty six now from Belair into the city on the train. So it ain't going to fly. It just isn't going to fly catching a train from the city, and you think about the train leaving the city. It goes northwest for about a kilometer before it switches to the south, completely the wrong direction. So the train on that track, maybe some other alignment. We've got the tunnel boring machines, maybe we should put them to use through the hills and create a straight line that would work and under the city. Frankly, so trains forget about it. You need something more direct. Love to get your point of view. David Leech is the Mount Barker District Council mayor. He is on the line, David, good morning.
00:01:49
Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, Matthew.
00:01:50
Speaker 1: Well, what's it going to take? Is it a third lane all the way from Mount Barker to Stirling and down the freeway?
00:01:56
Speaker 2: Matthew, there are many solutions that can be put towards the southeast through. Having that third lane would certainly be a big advantage. You could have a northern freight bypass where you'd take the heavy vehicles off of the freeway so that they can go up through the top of the Barossa and meet up again north of Adelaide, and by doing that you would get a lot of those heavy vehicles off of that freeway. We're the only major city that has b doubles and trucks running through the virtually the center of the town.
00:02:29
Speaker 1: You know very well how congested it is at the moment, if you're traveling during peak hour, and whether you're on a bus, in a car, whatever at all, it's a croll. It is a croll it.
00:02:39
Speaker 2: Is, and the amount of traffic's only going to increase on the Southeastern Freeway as my good neighbors in murray Bridge expand and Mount Barker itself expands. So the time to start planning to do something is right now. This Northern freight bypass will take seventy percent of the heavy, really head vehicles off of the freeway, and that is one solution to the congestion on the freeway. Another one, as you said, is that the third lane to go all the way through to Mount Barker, and then other methods that can be used to make the traffic work a little bit better.
00:03:18
Speaker 1: Okay, if you had unlimited budget, David, what would you do? Is it a direct train line? Would that help out?
00:03:23
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be absolutely absolutely if I was If you said I had an unlimited budget, I'd put a Northern rail and freight by pass from just this side of murray Bridge around the top of the Brassa. So put the heavy freight and the heavy rail around the top, and that would free up that corridor for the train line, because you're quite right, you can't mix the rail and the passenger on the train line very well, and they would free up that passenger line into the city. Mount Barker is soon going to be the second biggest city in South Australia. And have a rail line that could come to Mount Barker and then on to murray Bridge would be a very good solution to the congestion on the freeway.
00:04:08
Speaker 1: It does need a train line, I think Mount Barker, but I just can't see that existing alignment where it veers over to Balhannah and then around Eden Hills and Blackwood and it just completely the wrong direction of where people want to go. It might work for somebody going Mount Barker to Bridgewater or Belair or whatever, but coming into the city from Mount Barker on a ninety minute trip, no one's going to do that now they not.
00:04:30
Speaker 2: But if you were to construct a monorail, you could make that rail line not go through the tunnels. You could speed it up a fair bit on a monorail, make it lean into the curves a bit like they do in many overseas countries. It's very achievable to have a fifty to fifty five minute train from Mount Barker to Adelaide, stopping its stations along the way. It's doable.
00:04:58
Speaker 1: Mona rail always reminds me of the Simpsons, I must say, and Shelby Ville pitt Well.
00:05:03
Speaker 2: Life does imitatea.
00:05:05
Speaker 1: It does, David indeed, all right, Okay, So that's it's the Council working with the governor. The government's big on buses and more buses, and that is the solution at the moment for mass transit in and out of Mount Barker. See only thing going. So are you working with the government on that to make that as achievable and free flowing as possible.
00:05:25
Speaker 2: We sure do. And I had talks with Premier Alaanaskis and the former Transport Minister Tom kits and tanas a couple of years ago on behalf of council and one of the solutions at the time was to bring in fast fifteen minute bus timetable from Mount Barker, so you can confidently go to any of the bus stations in the Mount Barker area and know that a bus will only be at the most fifteen minutes away throughout all of the day and the peak times down to seven minute in the bills. So there's been a massive uptake on people catching the bus into Adelaide from the Mount Barker region because they know that it's a frequency of travel. The buses are getting better. They put hybrid diesel buses on which are cleaner, more efficient and better to use. People are taking up the public transport option, especially with fuel going now back to over two three dollars a letter.
00:06:21
Speaker 1: How far is Mount Barker going to expand David, do you have a Is there a council restriction on it at all? Is it a state government thing? Because you make.
00:06:29
Speaker 2: Goment state government restriction. The boundaries have already been set in twenty ten and it's in the MDPA areas, which is a very clearly delineated shaft line around to the south and southeast of Mount Barker. And once you once you get to those boundaries, there is no more development a lab past those areas, So the area is already defined. We're going to be going from in the town itself from twenty five thousand to fifty thousand people pretty quickly, which takes us from the old sleepy town we were to the second largest city in the state.
00:07:05
Speaker 1: That's unreal. You drive through now if you're heading, for instance, to Wisto down that whatever that road is past the back of the woolies there and you look down into that valley and the houses are just so tight, tightly packed in there. You think, is there a room for more for goodness sake?
00:07:21
Speaker 2: But obviously, well, Matthew you we're only thirty percent.
00:07:23
Speaker 1: Of the way through, are you really goodness.
00:07:25
Speaker 2: So there's more than three times as many houses come and give you if you think there's a lot of people there on the outskirts of Mount bark and now wait untill there's three more times more people moving in there. And that's why we're campaigning very strongly and advocating with the South Australian government to provide the services with it need, not just for the freeway but for the town itself. There is a lot more to be done here and we're really keen to make this a Liverpool part of South Australia because it's pretty good living up here. That's why people are coming here.
00:07:56
Speaker 1: MA think, yeah, well that's right obviously, that's right. Good on your David, appreciate at your time.
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Speaker 2: Thank you any time.
00:08:02
Speaker 1: By David Leach. Mount Barker District Council Mayor. Charles Mountain is the ARIA Senior Manager Road Safety. We're talking about transport infrastructure to keep the hills moving, particularly as you heard Mount Barker to get you know, only one third through in terms of new housing, two thirds to come. It's unreal. And Mount down the road murray Bridge rather is expanding at a rate of knots as well. Charles Mountain, good morning. What do we need to do to help people commute these distances?
00:08:33
Speaker 3: Well, certainly I think the work that's already been commenced will go substantially a long way towards it. As the mayor was saying, there's been a big uptake and use of public transport and numbers reflect this. There's been a there's going to be a big investment in the bus fleet itself. So it's transitioning across to full battery electric operation in many cases or a high bridge as well. So the fleet itself is having a big upgrade and that's being reflected the numbers of passengers uptake for use as well. The other important thing, of course is the MetroCard scheme has been expanded to now include Barry Bridge. That makes that use of public transport much more cost effective for people beyond the parkle as well. So I think there is a lot happening and it's certainly paying dividends in terms of the uptake we're seeing. The freeway itself has technically it has a lot moren additional capacity, but it certainly has its challenges and people who use that cold or regularly will know what they are. So I think, for example, it's around thirty five thousand vehicles a day use the busier sections up from the toll gate to Stirling, So obviously at certain times the road is very very busy. The road itself, because because it goes through the Adelaid Hills, is quite susceptible to variable weather conditions such as I'm thinking this time of year we have low cloud range, sleek, slippery conditions, et cetera. So regular road users really do need to ensure that they drive to the conditions, use their lights, they slow down, and they most importantly, they keep the critical distance between themselves and the vehicle in front of them, so to avoid the sort of crash as we often see on the freeway, lots of tailgates and things like that. So I think overall the freeway has capacity. The work that's about to commence in terms of the managed motorway section I think will make a big difference as well, because that includes a lot of intelligent transport systems, so there'll be real time information available to motors about breakdowns, restrictions, et cetera. And also, of course there will be that opportunity to move lanes for longer term disruptions as well to keep the traffic flowing. Yeah.
00:10:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you'd be able to use the other side of the road in a sort of two way arrangement, which obviously would have speed restrictions imposed on it too, though, wouldn't it, which might keep it moving but right slowly.
00:10:51
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, those sort of that scheme we we expect will only be activated when there is a long term delay to warrant the the work that's required to implement that scheme. But the short answer is, lots of this is happening that work is scheduled to start later this year and the major works commencing in twenty twenty seven, so drivers will see the benefits of that. But overall, I think the freeway it sort of performs generally very well. We tend to forget that many, as I said, many thousands of people go up and down that freeway every single day without incidents, so providing everyone does the correct thing. The other important thing, of course, there's been a lot of work done to make the descent of heavy vehicles from that section of the lower section of the freeway much safer as well, so that certainly paid dividends in the reduction in the number of incidents we've seen on their corridor as well. Yeah.
00:11:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, Suggestions of trains, a lot of people texting in saying we need rail and if not that an obarn up to Mount Barker. Is that feasible do you think? And the cost would be enormous for both I imagine into the billions.
00:11:57
Speaker 3: Well, this is right now. Lots of schemes have been looked at to implement a passenger rail system to Ournt Barker, and I think most of the thinking is if it was going to be effective it would have to go much further than Mount Barker. So I guess once we see what happens with Murray Bridge, that might swing the dial if you like, to make it potentially a more viable system. But I think at the end of the day, for the foreseeable future of the bus system will be providing the bulk of public transport needs, and as I said, there are opportunities to make that more efficient. So certain things, as you said about PRAP giving buses priority some of the key intersections as well. But generally speaking, as I said, once they clear the toll gate and all things being equal, their runners generally can't inhibited. It's really just managing, to be honest, it's the final stretch from the toll gate coming down HS and Row. As I've known that very well because that's my regular bus route. You know pretty well where all the pinch points are. So generally speaking that provides a very good service. And I think, as to the Mayor's point, the frequency of bus services on that corridor makes it very very easy for people to simply jop on a bus and get to where they need to.
00:13:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people making the point, including Judas buses use the same roads equally affected by accidents. I mean, they can't get around a crash any more than a car can.
00:13:18
Speaker 3: Well, no, this is right, and so that's why the real time information about incidents is so important and provides an opportunity for the public transport operators, for example, to reschedule reroute services which would potentially be impacted by the breakdowns or crashes, to sure level of service can still be maintained while that incident is addressed. So I think overall that will make a difference once it's fully implemented. Yes, I mean the train would be nice to have, but I think that the reality is providing a corridor where it can go because everyone's acknowledged that the existing rail corridor for a passenger service is just not feasible. It won't provide the level of service to people expecting this day and age. And if you look back in history, that was one of the reasons that the train, the passenger rail system up there progressively with it and died because it was so uncompetitive with the time it took for people to just simply pop in their car and drive down what was the early stage of the freeway. Even then, so it's simply why I cut it in terms of people with expectations today and as you say, creating a new corridor simply can't be justified in this day and age. We need public transport investment, to be honest, more to the north and south of Adelaide to meet the incredibly rapid growth that's happening.
00:14:41
Speaker 1: In those areas Concordia and down at ol Dinger for instance.
00:14:45
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, so we've already got an a rail corridor through there, So extending those corridors further and perhaps using buses to feed into that a rail spine to provide a good, reliable public transport service probably going to suit those developments more effectively.
00:15:03
Speaker 1: Child's fascinating. Thank you for your time, appreciate its. Charles Mountain from the RAA senior manager Road Safety looking at some of the options for the freeway for Mount Barker murray Bridge beyond. It's a great drive once you get past Mount Barker by if you go to murray Bridge or anywhere further southeast on that freeway, once you past Mount Barker about the only car it's great. It's just getting to Mount Barker that's a problem depending on the time of day. Heavy vehicle bypass via truro says Bill will take trucks off the freeway. Surely that will help. Signage. Warnings of delays on freeway need to be on roads leading up to it so people can take all turn routes and not get stuck again and again, says Andrea Higher. Quarter train last Friday from Sale in Victoria at a Spencer Street railway station in Melbourne two hundred and twenty kilometer trip three hours, says Peter. At Edwardstown, leone says two and from the hill satellite. Has anyone suggested multiple cable cars would it be feasible?
00:16:10
Speaker 2: I don't know.
00:16:10
Speaker 1: Leone kind of do like the idea of the Simpson's Mono rail that would be a better idea. I think that anyway, Why not have cable cars be good? Fund would they stop? Well, just kind of like the chairlift at the show you just had to hop on when it's still moving.
00:16:32
Speaker 2: I don't know.
00:16:33
Speaker 1: Anyway. We'll get to some of your calls more texts as well. Right after these words.
00:16:37
Speaker 4: Get out of bed with Ned and Sam. That's five Double a Early Breakfast Live from five with Ned McHenry and San Daddo. Thanks to pepperses A developed truck strength cleaning products, keeping your logistics fleet clean. Search Peppers Truck Strength
