Paranormal Hodgepodge

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You're listening to Everything out There with your host Steve Stockton.
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Hello friends, Hello, hello everybody, and welcome back everything out there.
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I'm your host Steve Stockton here on the Clyde Lewis
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Ground zero Radio Network. Joining me tonight have a couple
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of paranormalists. Frequent visitor Cisco Murdoch and coming back for
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the second time or no accident. This is I think
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her third time.
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Lynn one day? Lynn, is this your your Is this
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your second or third time here?
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I forget third time, maybe even fourth time. I think
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it is the third time.
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Yeah, but I'm telling you it's been a few and
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Cisco has been here like half a dozen. So anyway,
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I thought i'd have these ladies in tonight. They're both paranormalists,
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and we'll just have a paranormal potpourri and talk about
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whatever's strange things are on our mind. It's uh, we're
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into August now, so spooky season is coming up. Nicoll
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already got the house decorated here. What's going on in
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your world's paranormal wives of Ladies?
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Yeah, you go, oh, I was going to have you
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go for Cisco. I just came back from the bash.
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Actually this was my first time to Pennsylvania. It was
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my first time to the Gettysburg Bash, and it was
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really a great time. Between the two hotels everything they
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had everything connected and there were all kinds of things
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in both lobbies. So if ever you do get to go,
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make sure that you go into both hotels because they
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have different things going on in both, as well as
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the conference room and all that area back around there.
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But definitely don't miss out on a bus tour. I
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meant to take one. I'm going to take one next
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year when I go. But it was wonderful meeting so
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many people of like mind and Pam did an amazing
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job with the Gettysburg Bash. I was fortunate enough to
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get to stay in an airbnb with two other couples
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that were friends, and so it was nice, you know,
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having we we all went to dinner together and stuff
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like that, and you know, so it was it was nice.
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We actually had dinner with the new paranormal group it's
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called Para at Para a Normal. They're just filming now
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their first season, so we we got pictures and stuff
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taken with them. And of course that Batman was there
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and that that Michael guy with the white thing, but
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it was it was a great time and I really
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enjoyed it. So that's that's one of the things that
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I did. I do have some things coming up. I
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did here to hit a deer on the way home
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and kind of messed up my car. I've got plans
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to go to Virginia for a for two paranormal events
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within the are weekends apart and to do both of
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those as well as I'm gonna be on some shows
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coming up, some podcasts coming up, and my Guya show
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is out with George Nori on Beyond Belief. It was
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released a couple of months ago, so it's just been.
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A real bit a lot of stuff going on there.
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What about you, Cisco, did you get to go to
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the brus this year?
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I haven't done a damn thing. Steve, she was moving.
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I'm just yeah. I mean, we do this every day,
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you know. It's it's it's amazing to be in this.
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There's always something we talk about it when you know,
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we all get together on the show. Steve's been on
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my show, I've been on Lynn show. Lyn's been on
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my shows. Lynn, Steve and I have all been on
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each other. It's just it's a comfortable situation because we
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don't have to do any preliminaries ahead of time. We
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all know with each other about where each other are in,
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if you can call it an understanding your comfortable spot.
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I think you know where we sit in the paranormal
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and every once in a while we'll bump into somebody
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that comes way out of left field and you know,
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tells you, you know, ghost are all made out of green,
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yellow or something, and you got to like, okay, because
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that's where they are. You know, there's no I don't
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think there's any wrong place to be in this, but
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there is definitely a comfort would be able to sit
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with people who just are open minded about you know,
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they don't argue about somebody's experience. You know, they don't
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you know, are you sure you know it had red eyes?
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Are you sure they weren't blue? Because mine had blue
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and yours can't have read because you know, that makes
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it all of that stuff is just gone. And I
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think that that's one of the things that happens too
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when you go to a paranormal convention or anything like that.
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UFO Bigfoot. You know, there's thousands of different names you
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could combinations, but that's the thing. I think what we
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also need to do is maybe at these conferences, just
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set out everybody in a big, you know, room where
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everybody can talk, nobody's more important than anybody else, and
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you know, stand up and say, hey, what's the most
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amazing thing that you've ever you know, experienced? Was it?
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You know it might not have been an experience for yourself,
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but did you read a true account of an experience
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that just really set you know, you in a different
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spot and what was it? And why? You know? Because
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everybody is always running around those things, and everybody at
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the different tables, each team or person or experiencer or
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whatever it may be, they have that one piece or
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that you know, a couple of pieces of information and
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it's and it really seems to be we just can't
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melt together somehow and get okay, this is where we
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are now. Steve and I try to do this all
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the time on Mondays, where we'll go back to like
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the sixties and say, well, they had the same they're
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talking the same conversation then as we're having now, and
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what have we done with fifty years? You know what
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I mean? But it's it doesn't really matter that we're
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not falling on any specific concrete answers. It's more of
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comfort zones, I think. And it's really nice to be
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in a comfort zone, a paranormal zone, I guess, comfort
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zone with people where you can just talk about it
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and they understand what you're saying and you're not worried
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about oh gosh, you know, the last time I told
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this story, forgot to mention the green sweater, And because
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I didn't mention the green sweater this time, they're going
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to think I made it up. You know, it shouldn't
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be like that.
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We all know what we saw and what we experienced
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and what we heard, and we all know that each
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other knows that, so we don't have anything to prove
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to one another. Yeah, because none of us are skeptics.
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We're all the believers. And I've had our own experiences
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where experiences and paranormalists, and it's just it's nice to
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just chat would like mind to people.
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Yeah, ye, it absolutely is. And you know the thing
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is too is you know, for people that are going
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to be listening in, this is not the one on
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one class. This is the advanced class. So and it's
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nice to have that because we can talk openly about
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these things. Something I did want to mention as a
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side note tonight is the lions Gate. It is the
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opening for manifestation and it is a Lion's Gate on
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steroids because it's mixed in with a new moon, so
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anybody out there, and it does kind of overshadow for
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a few days I think until August tenth or something
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like that, but like today is the biggest day. So
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please people, if you are not familiar with the Lionsgate,
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google it, find out how to manifest your dreams and
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definitely do that today and put it out there. So
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I just wanted to share that with everybody.
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Yeah, I appreciate that. I've been reading up on that
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a little bit.
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A lot of people are talking about it, and I've
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been watching the moon signs because of the coming baby.
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Now he's four weeks and five days I think from today,
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but I think he's going to be here a little earlier.
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You got that blue moone the Sturgeon moon coming on
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the nineteenth. Wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't show up
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in that week but remains to be seen.
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I got goosebumps on that.
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Yeah, yeah, cool, little man's coming.
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How only four weeks. Where did the time go?
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It was, like I'm telling you, we found out New
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Year's Day that we were expecting and just we were thinking, wow,
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for forty weeks, that's a long time. But here it
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is like four and in a couple of days, and
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it's just it's it's flown by.
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Tell you what a good A lot faster after they
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get here too.
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That that is so true. So is Nicole wearing your shoes? Steve?
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Is she what is she wearing your shoes with her
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pregnancy feet? You know, your feet get really but I
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used to have to wear my my husband's.
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She probably didn't want to wear my shoes, but she
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had to get some different, more comfortable shoes and socks too.
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She likes those little, uh, the low profile socks, but
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she she did have to borrow some of my socks.
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There you go, that's standard. But yeah, you know, you
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guys are so to me. I'm in all both of you.
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You're very you're amazing, your you're good people, and you've
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had so much even more experience, much longer than even
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I have had in the field. And I I just
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I'm you know, I just love hearing you know some
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of your stories and things like that that you share
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and you know, it's just going.
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I figured out that between the both of us, we've
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got over one hundred years experience in this and that's
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no bullshit. That's that's the true experiencing when I was
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in the single digits and Cisco did too. I'll be
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sixty one this year, so there you go. That's probably
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closer to what one hundred and fifty or no, not
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that much, one hundred and ten years or something.
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Like that, but a little closer. Yeah, that's true.
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True.
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People always get It's not that I'm sorry, honey, I
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just want to say this too. People always try to
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get us all the times. How the hell can you
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remember something from when you're two or three? And I'm like, look,
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I bet you you remember flashes too. Now if you
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have closed moments like that finding moment, it's profound, like
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you remember when you know mine, I think I remembered
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the most because there was so many teenage girls screaming
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around me, you know, and my mom because the whole
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house was filled with you know, my sisters were all
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teens at the time, and there's just a lot of emotion.
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And of course it's not a sometimes I remember, not complete,
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like a flowing, complete video playing out from beginning to end.
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like almost like watching an old uh, an old v
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VHS tape or something that's got a couple of glitches
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in it, you know. And I Steve and I talked
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about this when we first got together, trying to tell
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these stories without filling in the gaps, because you try
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to fight yourself when you're okay, well, you know, how
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did I get from the bedroom to the living room.
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You know, I'm just making that part up, but you know,
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so you assume it and and and you know, well
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somebody I must walk or somebody carried me or whatever,
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and you fill that gap in it. After a while,
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I think that that can start manifesting as it really happened. So,
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you know, that's the main thing. Is Like when I
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was telling Steve the first time about my story, I'm like,
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I don't remember exactly what happened here, but I remember
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at that time I was up higher and I was
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looking over my you know, my sister's shoulder or whatever,
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and I saw my sister sitting on the couch and
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said this, you know, but you know, when you tell
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a story like that, you try very hard to be
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honest and say, you know, I don't remember how I
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got from there to there. I just wound up there
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and then this was what happened. But when you're being
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honest like that, people are like, well, I don't know,
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so you can't win either way.
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Tell then, I have, especially, like we said, with those
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defining moments, I have almost total recall. I have a
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near photographic memory and have ever since childhood. I can
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tell you every single thing about it the way I
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remember it. I've had people saying, oh, you've got to
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be lying, because nobody remembers that much detail I was there.
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You know, because we're you know, speaking of people always say, well,
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you're just trying to sell your book. Let me tell
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you people, you know, we h one of us has
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great books out there. You know, uh Lynn has several,
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and Steve has a bunch, and I've got one with Steve.
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And it's you're you're not doing it for that. I
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mean the amount of time when you're writing a book
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and you're putting down your experiences that really happened to you.
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You're trying to be like I said, very careful, and
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you're wording and you're trying to be expressive and you're
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trying to be descriptive so the reader can be there,
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you know, but more so, more over than that, you're
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you know, you're also going through the emotion of it
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all and you're trying to be clear and without Sometimes
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people what you think you saw it, Well, I'll give
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you all the things I thought. You know, you pick
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because I don't know, this is what I saw and
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as I think it's very interesting too when you have
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an experience like that at a young age and you
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talk to somebody decades later about it and then see
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it all new through their eyes and get new ideas.
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Steve and I have done that a lot of times,
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and I think that's where most of our learning, me is.
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When there was somebody there with me and they don't
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remember much of.
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All about it. I've had that happen, like with my nephew.
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He was granted four years younger than me, but we
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had some experiences and I remember it in great detail,
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and I'll tell it and tell it, tell it and
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he's like, I don't remember that, but I mean I
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obviously do. I'm not just making shit up.
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You know that.
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I mean, it's aggravating that that people don't have the
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same brain and memory that you do when you especially
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when you're telling the story.
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of it, not any They.
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as important to them as it was to me, obviously,
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That's I went to.
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High school with people for four years and run into
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them later in life and like, nah, I don't remember. Yeah,
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we were in the same class together. We were in
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Miss Bradford's English class. I said on the I don't
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remember you did, but oh well I was kind of anyway, So.
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I mean, it's a known fact. I'm sure that you
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know we blocked trauma. You know, it may very well be.
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This is sounds silly as all get out, but you
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know how dogs will have They have like I don't
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know how many smells, like four hundred and something. You know,
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I'm sure I got that wrong, but just put that
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there as a placeholder, and they can only hold the
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memory of that amount of sense and once a new
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income and one's got to go. So I'm wondering if
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people are like that, they have so much ram in
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their head, so they get rid of the memories. They
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don't really want to keep hold on of the ones
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they do. And I think that that that doesn't make
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any medical or scientific sense the way I said it,
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but I think it makes a human sense.
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I think it does.
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you know, by the time they swam around that they
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forgot everything they saw and then it's all new again.
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attention span.
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Well, you know, and speaking of the years of experience
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in this room right now, we have one hundred and
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sixty years of experience because I remember vivid stories when
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I was five and remembered seeing because we lived three
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short blocks behind a hospital, seeing people spirits and patient
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gowns walking through, and it was it was commonplace for us.
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I mean, it was like there's the toaster, there's the door,
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there's a ghost, you know, and so we didn't learn
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to be afraid of them. A lot of people too,
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I think, like what you both were saying as well,
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sometimes people it's kind of a selective thing and they
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tunes of it out because in the generations that we
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grew up in, you learn to keep your mouth shut
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because you didn't want to be the weirdo or the
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one that the white coats came and took away. You know,
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you didn't the Joneses. Everything was about the Joneses. I
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don't know where somebody came up with that name and
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what it looked like, and everything was, you know, what
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face value. So you didn't dare And then when you
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throw traditional religion in with it too, then you've got
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a missmash of you know, you have to hide it,
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and now you even start to doubt yourself, you know.
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So anyway, it's nice to be here with you guys,
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because I don't have to do that here.
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That's so true, and you know there's a great point
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and not to jump in here, Steve, but you know,
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I never understood how people could keep saying religions and
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I don't and I don't mean to to bash any
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because it's across the board. In most cases, it's all
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about love. Yet everybody comes at people with hate like
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you can't do that because bar blah blah, And I'm like,
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wait a minute, Like Steve and I were talking about
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the Boorley Mansion, a very famous, very haunted at it's
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no longer there. The rectory, the Boorly Rectory, and of
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course in the UK, right outside of Lancashire, I believe anyhow,
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the whole point of the haunting there was a monk
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and an of course legend, and Peter Underwood said his legend.
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So I'll go ahead and quote Peter you know, uh,
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because if you can't believe him, you know what forty
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years as the president of the ghost Hunters Society or
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whatever in the UK, I mean, just a wonderful man,
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and said that the legend there was a nun and
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a monk fell in love and met in secret. They
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got caught. So the religions, both of the that was
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in charge of both of them, which is supposed to
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be based out of love, decided they were going to
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hang the monk and wall them none up alive, uh,
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in the rectory itself, and bricker in. And that's supposed
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to be your expression of love, you know, why not? Okay, hey,
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you crazy kids, maybe you made a bad choice, you know,
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and pick this, you know, and you said it was
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for life, but you know you fell in love. God
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had another plan so go ahead, We'll let you out
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of this and you go be happy. And you know,
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and what I don't get it that would make more sense.
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It's not like you know, the mafia or a gang
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or something where it's blood in, blood out. You know,
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it's just you should be able to turn and walk
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away if God had other plans. I think you called
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it right on the nail there.
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I agree.
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I agree also, you know a lot of times too.
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And again we're not none of us are bashing traditional religion.
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I do believe that there is a purpose for it.
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I do believe in God, so you know, just to
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make that clearer, you know, to anybody that's listening, I believe.
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In all of that.
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The preachers come on, they've been on here several times
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and everybody knows that listens how I feel about that.
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I believe in God.
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Yeah, I do think it gets a bad name. I
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think it gets a bad name because the representative slices
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that are out there are showing me more of hate
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than love. And I don't understand that. And it's the
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same with ghosts. It is the same with ghosts. Why
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are people yelling at me telling me that ghosts are
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made out of green jello when I'm trying to tell
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them that love is eternal, and love continues on and
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your essence continues on. You know that energy can't be destroyed,
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it just gets changed, and you know where does it go?
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And hey, here we have about a bazillion gazillion stories
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here are they all fake?
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You know?
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And my ghosts aren't made out of green jello? You know.
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LEEGI and I were talking about that last night. And
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when we've reverenced it before, I from beyond, which is
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my UFO, UAP and relative channel. If just one story
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is real, just one UFO encounter, just one ghost, just
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one bigfoot, just one of any of that stuff is true,
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then there you go. That's all it takes for one
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of them to be true. And I think there's a
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lot of them that are.
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Yep, me too, I agree, I agree. I just wanted
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to say that about that because here's the thing. When
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you're standing up there, you know, maybe given a seminar
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or lecture whatever, and again anywhere, paranormal convention, whatever, similar,
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and people are just arguing about this, you know, why
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can't we all start with what we're all have in common,
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what we all have in common is our zest for knowledge,
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our our want or our need for people pictures to
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understand what's going on. You know, everybody's got a different reason.
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You know, nobody wants to be lied to or hoodwinked,
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or you know, they saw something and they're just trying
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to prove that something's out there so they can validate
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what they saw. Whatever their reason is. You know, we
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have something in common. And that's the question, you know,
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And now, okay, what did you go gather? What do
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you have? What did you see? Really? Okay, you know,
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and I think you know, Steve and I over the
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years have really kind of peeled apart the fact that,
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of course just because you're you know, your ghosts showed
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up in a you know, a tinkerbell ball of glittery
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light and then decided to manifest. Is whatever it did,
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you know, or however it did and acted the way
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it did, it doesn't mean that your ghost story that
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was completely different didn't happen. It's different types of ghosts,
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different people experience in it. It's everything in the room.
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It's all the end energy combined. It's the energy of
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the land, is the energy of the building, the structure
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of the place. It's the energy of the person that
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walked into that energy. It's the energy of the ghost
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that was If the ghost was there, the ghost might
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have followed you. You might have might have said, hey,
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where are you going, you know, and followed them in.
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You know, we just have all these questions still, but
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I think we have some answers. I think we have
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some answers. I do believe it has to do with
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the individual who became the ghost, and I think it
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has to do with the individual who is seeing the
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ghost and there's an energy connection there for whatever reason.
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In some cases, not all cases, you know, in some cases,
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you just walk up into a ghost and Yo, there
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we are, you know, and it doesn't have any big
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meaning behind it. The ghost isn't there because it's going
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through the same thing you're going through. And recognize your energy.
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You just walked up in a ghost and there you
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both were. You know that happens too, Yes, no, well all.
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No, And that's true. And you know, I think that
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people are also people. They're born with gifts, they're born
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with this innate understanding. However, it's changed with nature versus nurture,
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and they're taught to be afraid of it. So a
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lot of times people they're trying to prove it to
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themselves or they're afraid to prove it to themselves because
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they have this inner knowing. So even if somebody says, oh,
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there's no such thing as ghosts, now, they have an
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inner knowing. They're just creeped out that you're talking about it,
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and anybody that comes forward. You know, I've noticed a
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few things even on television recently, where they're constantly trying
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to debunk it. You know, they're constantly I mean, there's
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all of these miraculous things that are facts that have occurred,
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but they focus on this one little piece that was
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a little bit off and that diminishes the whole thing.
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And you know, all of us have had experiences and
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to me, I have never ever had anybody come and
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criticize me or say that what I was saying wasn't true.
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Then again, maybe because I don't give a flip. If
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somebody were to, I'd be like, oh, well, I have
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a nice day, you know type thing. But we know,
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we know what we've seen. There is no doubt, and
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we know you know that we've seen it more than once.
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or all of us have been in situations where we
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have seen it at the same time with other people.
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So there's that validation too, you know. And but people,
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some people just aren't quite ready for it.
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Absolutely, absolutely true. If I could jump in here real quick,
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I think that's a very important point, and I try
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to I try to say it on my show, you know,
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we get together and stuff, because I think it's so important.
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You're only going to understand what your consciousness at the
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this point in your life is ready to understand. You
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might be getting held back from certain information or you know,
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if you ever tried to think of something when you
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were a kid and then you know, here you are
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forty and you're just wandering around the grocery store or whatever,
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and all of a sudden it pops into your head
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and you get it, and you're like, why didn't I
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get that earlier? Are you kidding me? I'm just now
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figuring it out, you know. But it's like that in
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the Paranormal, I believe, and Steve was the one who
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just having conversations with him and then you know, Steve,
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00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:33.359
what do you think about that? Was it? Mind? You have?
480
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.119
And that's how we wrote the book too. We are
481
00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:38.200
all children in the wilderness to day afterlife, because I
482
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:40.599
wanted it that way, because this is how we learn,
483
00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.920
you know. I just think that's an amazing thing to
484
00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.799
still be able to do after fifty years, forty years,
485
00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.359
sixty years, you know where you're like, Wow, I'm working.
486
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.880
I'm running around a thing in my head now that
487
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:58.960
has a lot to do with one of my first
488
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:03.079
well not for not even close, but my first time
489
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:06.200
I saw my mom. Because you remember, Steve, I was
490
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.039
telling you about where like she would, I'd wake up,
491
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:09.920
she'd just be in different parts of my room like
492
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.759
just and and she seemed to always be surprised when
493
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.240
she saw me. At the same time, she'd just blink out.
494
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:19.480
You know, that's a short version, but take my word
495
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:24.720
for it. Now, there's something in Lynn. Don't say a word. Uh.
496
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:28.839
There's something uh that's been going on with people I
497
00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:32.960
know and some other people I know, and a couple
498
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.440
of people that I've heard recently. So I figured, what's
499
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:40.000
happening right at this moment is I'm getting I'm getting
500
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:43.319
something else. My consciousness is starting to understand this, and
501
00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:48.160
it snaps into the ghost stories that you hear about,
502
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:51.519
let's say, on the Kim Russo level, if you if
503
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:53.519
you kind of understand what I mean by that, like
504
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.000
where she would go a haunting of and she'd go
505
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.599
back with the celebrity and take them back to the
506
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.440
place it happened, and then she'd go through it. She'd
507
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:04.599
read the house, she go, oh, well, that ghost was
508
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:06.599
here because of this, It's usually winds up being a
509
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:10.480
totally different reason than the person actually thought, you know,
510
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.440
or maybe they were scared of this ghost and the
511
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:15.039
ghost was trying to prevent them from falling down a
512
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.839
broken step or something, you know, just whatever you want
513
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:21.519
to say, but it was a different reason. And what
514
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:28.240
I'm thinking of now is that kind of if you
515
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:31.799
can imagine what it must be for a ghost, that's
516
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:34.759
just kind of I don't want to say, stuck in
517
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:38.279
any kind of purgatory or crossing over place or whatever.
518
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.240
We all know those things exist because it's your consciousness.
519
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.799
Are you ready to move up? Think the high vibrational things.
520
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:45.960
You'll move up. We know that from the little girl
521
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.319
who was getting tickled, and every time she laughed she
522
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.160
moved over. She felt like she moved into a different
523
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.960
plane of an existence in her nde and she was
524
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.519
just a three year old girl, and the only way
525
00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:58.839
she could describe it was they would make her laugh,
526
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.839
and when she laughed, she felt like her body would
527
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:04.160
shift her it would shoot in another direction. And when
528
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:07.960
she got through whatever clouds or whatever it was that
529
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.039
she described, everything would be brighter and the music would
530
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.400
be louder, and things would be just gorgeous. And it
531
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:16.880
was all because she was giggling. And I thought, Okay,
532
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:20.119
she's giggling. That's raising her vibration. She's shooting up a vibe.
533
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:25.720
You know. So what if, like my mom, she passes,
534
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:29.599
she passes in a hospital in Virginia. I'm in way
535
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.519
far away. I'm in New Jersey, right, I went to
536
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:35.400
stay with family when she was in the hospital. Sick
537
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:40.240
at the end makes sense, Okay, So I wake up,
538
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.799
I start seeing her. I'm thinking I'm scaring her as
539
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.480
a kid. As I grow up and go through adulthood
540
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.759
and things like that, start studying this more and understanding more,
541
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.839
I'm starting to think, Wait a minute, what if while
542
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.440
I'm sleeping, I love and miss her so much my
543
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:01.960
energy is connecting into hers and that's drawing her Yeah,
544
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:03.880
or you're you know how you think of a loved
545
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:08.599
one and they're there kind of thing. What if it's
546
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:12.119
she's doing it? What if she passes in such a
547
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.440
state pretty much, you know, alone, other than the people
548
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.240
that were there at the hospital unfortunately are horrible. You know,
549
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.400
this is back in seventy six, just the way things went,
550
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:27.440
you know, and uh, she's worried about me so much
551
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:31.039
so it tethers her to the earth plane because we
552
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:37.920
know this is also true. Worry, fear, regret, pain, suffering, grief,
553
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:42.039
all those things can tether. And she's connecting in with
554
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.880
my energy when it's loose and I'm asleep. She's in
555
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:49.039
a state of kind of sleep and lingering because she's
556
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.039
stuck here, and somehow our energies are matching up just
557
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.000
enough for us to briefly see each other for a
558
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.160
moment in time. That that kind of love, that kind
559
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:03.599
of deep mother child next. I think that's possible because
560
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.519
I think it happens with the living as well, and
561
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:11.039
for a brief moment they show up. Doesn't make any
562
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:12.400
sense to anybody, it.
563
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:15.960
Does make total sense. And I and I agree with
564
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:19.960
you because I've kind of spoken with people about things
565
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:22.240
kind of like that. I've kind of had some experiences
566
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.000
that way myself, so yeah, that makes perfect sense. I
567
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.880
mean I know that even myself, with a recent issue
568
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:36.200
at my sister's house, I mistakenly thought that this elemental
569
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:40.880
in the house was holding spirits prisoner, and it turned
570
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:43.680
out that his reason for being there and holding them
571
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.480
was to protect them. So it is easy to misunderstand,
572
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:50.079
you know, somebody being there, and plus you know so
573
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:52.039
many people it's said that they've been taught to be
574
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afraid of spirits even if they're if they're familiar. I
575
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.079
know the episode that I went through with a religious
576
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:01.680
choice to my mother, made after we had been Presbyterian
577
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.960
for very, very long, and I mean they scared me
578
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.720
so bad that even when I started to see things,
579
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:09.240
I would run out of the room just as fast
580
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:12.359
as anybody else because of what I was taught. Even
581
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.359
if they were beautiful things like my grandmother or my
582
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.079
aunt or somebody that would pop into visit, and you know,
583
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:21.559
and then I would feel them close, you know too,
584
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:24.799
and like like you said, they would be connected because
585
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:28.400
they loved me and not just because you know, I
586
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:31.880
was calling on them or you know, thinking of them
587
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.200
or whatever. But that they were also you know, keyed
588
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:34.880
in that way.
589
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:40.279
So I agree absolutely because the thought can be so powerful.
590
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:45.680
Think about that, Steve, you know, an unwilling like just
591
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.640
to love just a you know, because we we can
592
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:50.799
all think of something right now that we love that much,
593
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:57.359
you know that, and you're asleep therein semi. I guess
594
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.200
you could say almost like a sleep, like a know
595
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.119
with twilight sleep. I guess I don't know making who knows,
596
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.160
but there's just that connection. It's not a will, not
597
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:13.839
really a conscious will on either human being. It's just
598
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:20.200
a underlying current of that eternal love that in sleep
599
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.480
or in a let go conscious state. I'm sure people
600
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.680
could do this in meditation as well, connects like that
601
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.480
and just surprises each other. I just think that's an
602
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.720
amazing way to think about it, because listen, in life,
603
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.279
you could do it astro projecting, you can do it
604
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.640
through meditation, you can do it through other things elucid
605
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.640
dreaming and things like that. And then you get all
606
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.039
the accounts too, of those goodbye show ups, you guys
607
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:49.920
know what I mean, Like somebody's passed and four people
608
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.960
in the family got to see him before he you know,
609
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.119
he just stopped for a minute just to smile and
610
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:59.039
move on. And you find out that right after the
611
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.559
person passed and when visited four people that night.
612
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.440
You know, yes, yeah, what a beautiful way that you
613
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.440
put it to Cisco. You laid it out in such
614
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.440
a way that it was very beautiful.
615
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.519
Thank you. I just think that that is a beautiful
616
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:18.319
thing though. It is so you could I think that
617
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:23.880
somebody who just was had just so much love for
618
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.519
a person too, they could do that. I'm wondering how
619
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:30.680
many stories we've missed, you know, or throw out and
620
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.160
put in another category because it was something like that,
621
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:36.680
Like say a soldier and you know, in a in
622
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.640
in a foreign land by themselves and their the fox
623
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:41.839
hold their tent and they're they're asleep and they're just
624
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:46.680
thinking a home and somebody in that home, a child,
625
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.400
a wife, a husband, whatever, just for a moment sees
626
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:56.920
that person standing there, you know, just briefly and almost
627
00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:59.319
would you'd almost think it was a ghost, you know,
628
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.240
or how how many times had it happened? We don't
629
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.559
even see it? Wow, that's just crazy. It's just it's
630
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.719
just amazing to me to think that why not, why
631
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:10.519
wouldn't it Steve, doesn't it make sense?
632
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:15.320
Yeah, yeah, I agree with you too, you know, and
633
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.159
on that same line as well, it's like even with
634
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:21.440
like the thought and the connectedness in that way, that's
635
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:25.239
that's beyond the physical body. It's like one day you
636
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:27.119
might be sitting and just out of the blue, you
637
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.800
start thinking about somebody that you haven't thought about in years,
638
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:34.159
and all of a sudden, the next day you get
639
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.039
a phone call or you run into it at the
640
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.239
grocery store. You know. I mean, this is this kind
641
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:41.840
of thing that happens, and it's kind of along the
642
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:43.760
same line, and it's all energetic.
643
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:47.000
Yeah, it's like the energy is coming, you know what
644
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.199
I mean, it's like their energy is coming. Same thing
645
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.039
like phone calls. Like you said, somebodys do a knock
646
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.519
on the door. I do it all the time with
647
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:57.079
phone calls, especially with you know, loved ones and stuff
648
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.159
like that. And I surely didn't meet anything where I
649
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:02.519
said line don't say it, but I didn't she her,
650
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.920
And I know somebody that might be experiencing something like that,
651
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.400
because when I read it, I get innocence on both sides,
652
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.800
and I think that that's what do you understand? What
653
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.880
I'm saying, yes, I get innocence on both sides where
654
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:19.920
both are surprised by it. And when I when I
655
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.480
got that, that's what made me think of my mom.
656
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:26.960
And for years, I mean, this happened when I was
657
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:31.000
like eleven twelve, you know, and for years I thought,
658
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:33.199
oh my gosh, I'm doing it wrong. I'm scaring her.
659
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:35.519
And you know, I told her i'd be I didn't
660
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.480
want to see ghosts and be scared, and she's I'm
661
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.679
scaring her away and she won't stay and talk to her.
662
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:41.800
I mean, when you're a kid, you beat yourself up
663
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:46.480
inside and out sideways. You know, I'm doing something wrong here,
664
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.159
you know? Why? Why can't I get my mom to
665
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:50.960
stick around just so I can see if she's okay?
666
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:55.800
You know? But and then just totally misunderstanding. I think
667
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.119
she was just as surprised. She didn't, you know, because
668
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:02.320
we always assume that ghosts have the whole book too,
669
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.239
like they have the whole here's all the rules. This
670
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:07.320
is what you kenn of can't do, This is what
671
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:08.960
you ken of can't tell them, this is what you
672
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.480
kend of can't say. And I'm sure that there's somebody
673
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.480
over there and the send a being or whatever going.
674
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:15.599
We don't want to We don't want to give it all,
675
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:16.880
you know. We don't want to give it all the
676
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.000
way to him because I'd be cheating. They have to
677
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.519
find it out on their own, you know, kind of
678
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.239
like adults with a three year old, you know, just
679
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:26.079
keep trying to catch them be where they hit the ground.
680
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.679
But once they hit the h fall on their butts
681
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:30.920
a couple of times, they learn to hang on or
682
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:33.960
walk careful or you know what I mean. It's almost
683
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.519
like that's how I look at it with ascended beings
684
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.440
and whoever's running this show, you know, and whoever has
685
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.559
the rule books, you know, because we assume that the
686
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.800
ghost can do that. And I keep going back to
687
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.280
that movie Ghost when Patrick Swaye's character was just trying
688
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.559
to move the damn penny or kick a can and
689
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.800
he could. He was trying with human boundaries, I think,
690
00:36:56.639 --> 00:37:01.239
you know, and and letting those human earth flea connections
691
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.159
kind of go like that, those boundaries, those color you know,
692
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:06.880
color in the lines, and it's all the other goes
693
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.760
to go. Dude, there's no lines anymore, you know, and
694
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.239
you just have to think it. So if it's if
695
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.039
it's simple like that, a process of thought and thinking
696
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:18.599
it imagine the things that we can do that they've
697
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:21.400
told us we can't anymore. Absolutely.
698
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.639
I mean there's a whole hemisphere of the brain that
699
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:27.119
they don't even we're not even using. And I believe
700
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:32.199
that that's the spiritual side that connects us with you know,
701
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:35.199
and our gifts are spiritual gifts that come through that
702
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:38.920
we're all born with. So yeah, I mean, you know,
703
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.559
I'm on the same page with you what you're talking about, that.
704
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:43.159
Is for sure.
705
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:45.519
Yeah, and I'm right there too.
706
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:50.119
Yeah, I just think that's an amazing you know. To me,
707
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.199
it's almost like an epiphany because that one thing. And
708
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:56.480
I always smile when I think about my mom because
709
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.480
what she has taught me. I thought she taught me
710
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:01.480
everything she had to teach me in the first twelve
711
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:03.599
years before I lost her, you know, and I was
712
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.760
that's just you know, where my mindset was. But now,
713
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.199
you know, on the other side of this, I'm going,
714
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:12.480
my gosh, she taught me so much after she passed
715
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:16.800
as well, Yes, especially in this and didn't probably didn't
716
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.320
even realize what she was doing it first, and that's
717
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.159
what got me to get it because I'm looking at
718
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.320
this and I'm going, you know, how would she know
719
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.239
to do that? And I thought, well, maybe she's just
720
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:28.280
thinking of me, and I'm just thinking of her, and
721
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:33.639
we just boom somehow we caught that flash moment, you know,
722
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.760
like Steve, you and I talk about that where time
723
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:40.880
like the pages in a book. Do you remember that
724
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.440
that analogy. You've got a book and the pages, and
725
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:47.760
the pages just get a little wet, drop some water
726
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.239
on it, right, and you drop some water in a
727
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.679
pretty soon you'll start to see the words from the
728
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.320
other side bleed over under that page a little bit,
729
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.400
and those pages coming through. And I think time is
730
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.840
like that in ways, like sometimes they come into ours,
731
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:07.360
sometimes we go into theirs. You know, they could be
732
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:08.400
something that simple.
733
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:13.039
It's totally laynear. It's an abstract exactly.
734
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:13.960
I love that.
735
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:17.519
Yeah, yeah, I love that kind of also like the
736
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:21.400
veils between dimensions that you kind of write go and
737
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:25.079
as when my mom passed away, also my father had
738
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:27.440
a near death experience, and he talked about the fact
739
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.400
that they're able to be in six places at one
740
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:33.400
time simultaneously, which I found to be interesting because they
741
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.639
could be sitting with your brother at the morning table,
742
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:38.599
and while they're in the car writing with you to work.
743
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:43.079
But speaking of the sensory thing, they do crossover. They
744
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.559
do have all of their senses. And people argue the
745
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.480
smell thing, and it's like, look, they don't have an
746
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:50.920
old factory nerve, so it's not like walking up and
747
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.599
sniffing a flower. But it is a memory recall. They
748
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:59.760
because they think and they travel. My mother pops in
749
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:01.760
a ca asually and I asked her about the eating
750
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.920
thing with potato salad. Doesn't she miss it? And of
751
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:06.480
course she came in and she said, well, we do
752
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.679
everything by thought. If we want to be with someone,
753
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.039
we think of them and we're instantly right there with them.
754
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:16.679
And if we want to go somewhere, we think of
755
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.480
it and we instantly are there. I mean, there's not
756
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:23.519
even a point of traveling. You're just in a split second,
757
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:27.840
you're there. And when you want to you know, taste
758
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:31.639
of food or something that you enjoyed in some lifetime
759
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.480
and some galaxy or on Earth, your most recent lifetime,
760
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.119
you just think of it and the sensation comes to
761
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.760
you as if you're eating it instantaneously, So you know
762
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.800
that That's also very interesting too, with the fact that
763
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:48.679
they can be so many places and they do feel
764
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:52.400
they keep all of their senses, whether they passed over
765
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.360
or not. They have all of their senses, but when
766
00:40:54.360 --> 00:41:00.159
they pass over, they have additional senses that they didn't
767
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.880
while they were earth bound, and some of the negative
768
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:04.880
and a lot of the negative stuff has shed and
769
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.119
left behind, so they're not they're not held back by
770
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:09.880
that anymore.
771
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:11.480
That's ing stuff.
772
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:17.079
It's good, right, I think that's the best thing. Uh. Again,
773
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.360
I'll use my mom when she was showing up, like
774
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.079
I said, where it was, I call them popins, you know,
775
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.639
because again they always ended with me going and her going,
776
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:31.519
you know, that kind of look, you know, and that
777
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.599
kind of like why am I scaring her? You know,
778
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.800
It's like when I finally got my stuff together, you know,
779
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:39.880
and you're just not expecting it and it's never gonna
780
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:41.199
happen again, and then all of a sudden, bam, there
781
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:43.000
it is again. You're never ready for it, you know,
782
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:47.880
not when it's like that. Yeah, But then after there
783
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.559
was a time, you know, I went through a lot
784
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.280
of stuff and a lot of other things happened to me,
785
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.440
and I'm pretty sure my spirit guid's had a hold
786
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:56.840
of me, because that's you know, when stuff was happening
787
00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:00.000
to me, like but I got stuck in the undertoe
788
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.800
it out on the beach, you know, and I was
789
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:04.440
out of my body and the time almost walked in
790
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.360
front of the bus and somebody just grabbed me by
791
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.960
the back of the both shoulders, back of the top
792
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.519
back of my shoulders and lifted me off the ground
793
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:16.199
and put me on my butt on the sidewalk as
794
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.400
the bus went boom, and I turned around to say
795
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.920
thank you. There's nobody there. So different things like that
796
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.639
were happening to be I believed that my spirit guys
797
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:28.840
were really trying to get me through boot camp or something,
798
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.159
you know what I mean. I was a teenager. You know,
799
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:35.280
It's like I was always at the crossroads. You know
800
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.960
which or do I take right? You know which right
801
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.400
I go? So, you know, I think there was a
802
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:43.320
lot of that going on a sheet. And it was
803
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:47.440
a while. And then right before the night before I
804
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.039
went into the Army, right before I left for boot camp,
805
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.960
that's when she showed up again, but totally different, totally
806
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:53.559
different way.
807
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.119
I love your version of that. If you would tell
808
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:57.239
that whole story there.
809
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.760
Sure right, Well, so you know, again, I'm not nervous.
810
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.800
I'm digging this. At the time, I was so gun ho.
811
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.519
I was like John Wayne Junior, I really was. I
812
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:11.119
was just so into army. I was fit. I was
813
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:14.119
you know, I was running, I was running with leg weights.
814
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:17.199
I was just gunno nuts, and I wanted to so
815
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:19.000
over cheat. I knew I was going to have to
816
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:24.559
shoot so far, you know, to land halfway. Because again
817
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:26.760
I was like in the first one of the very
818
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:31.920
first all female boot camps at Fort Dix, this is back.
819
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:33.880
You know, we're breaking ceilings out and glass all over
820
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:35.400
the place. They didn't know what to do with us.
821
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:37.519
So I knew I had to train hard. So I
822
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.800
was excited. It wasn't nervous or anxiety or anything like that.
823
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.559
I'm stayed at my sister's house. I'm on her couch
824
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:50.119
and the door. Now, she's got three daughters, my nieces,
825
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.239
and they were all teenagers at the time, and they
826
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.239
had a curfew. And it's a little late, it's about
827
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.440
ten thirty somewhere around in there, and in the room
828
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.920
I'm in there is a back door. My sister is
829
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:07.559
extremely historically nautical colonial go figure, but it works for her.
830
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:11.159
And on this back door, it's a glass window, a
831
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:14.639
wooden door with a glass window half and on that
832
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:18.519
glass window instead of a curtain is a fishing net
833
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.679
filled with these shells. And see what do you call it?
834
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:27.480
A starfish? You know, nice, really pretty, very well done,
835
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.880
and these big beautiful glass they are called Japanese floating
836
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.000
glass balls or something nautical. So you know, so when
837
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:39.239
you open this door, it has a distinctive sound when
838
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:42.039
it opens and when it closes, and everybody in that
839
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.559
house knows that sound because of the way that those
840
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.239
glass balls and that net and shells hits the glass
841
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:52.599
on the door. So I hear it open, and I'm thinking,
842
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.880
oh man, somebody's coming in late curfew, you know. So
843
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:58.000
I started like ribbon. I didn't know which needs it
844
00:44:58.079 --> 00:44:59.800
was because I didn't know who was out of the house.
845
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.079
And I said something. I heard the door close, and
846
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:06.199
nobody said anything back, and I wanted to catch who
847
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.039
it was. So I sat up from where I was
848
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:09.760
on the couch so I could look over the couch
849
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:15.079
to see and nobody's there. Nobody had a chance to
850
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.760
get up the stairs and out of the room, and
851
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:21.920
I noticed by the door, which I heard distinctly open
852
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:26.400
and close, this little sparkle of light and it's almost
853
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:32.400
like just a little pinch of glitter in mid air, moving,
854
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:36.920
you know, kind of like going together, going to part.
855
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.599
And then it's getting a little bit bigger, and it's
856
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:45.280
kind of moving through the living room about halfway and
857
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.559
it's like right in front of me. I could almost
858
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:49.440
reach out and touch it. If I had lunged at it,
859
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:51.800
I could have touched it, but I didn't move, and
860
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.480
I'm watching this thing move. And then it gets brighter
861
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:57.280
and it gets lighter, and it gets bigger and more
862
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:01.199
glittery and kind of misty, and it's it's going so
863
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.199
fast yet so slow. I don't know how to describe that.
864
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:09.480
And it just eventually starts making a larger In the
865
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:14.519
midst of this lighting glittery light, was a figure. And
866
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.880
then all of a sudden it just became clear and
867
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:21.599
it was my mom. And now she's no longer in
868
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:24.719
the hospital gown and had the white thing, you know,
869
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:29.559
the white hospital band on her wrist. She wasn't hunched over,
870
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:34.280
I didn't feel her pain. I felt nothing but warmth
871
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:38.079
and love and light. And it just washed over me
872
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:41.920
like somebody just opened like a pizza oven. And I'm
873
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.159
just standing there probably like a goofball with my face
874
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.199
hanging out, and I just I remember just mouthing Mom
875
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.760
because she looked so good. She looked like she was going,
876
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:57.800
you know, out out to dinner on a Saturday night,
877
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.239
you know, at the Essex and Sussex Jersey Shore. I mean,
878
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.760
she looked good, her hair was done, she had, you know,
879
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:09.000
like it just this casual, you know, dressy outfit. You know,
880
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:12.039
she looked great, this big old smile on her face,
881
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:15.360
rosy cheeks or makeup's done. She's looking good. Mom is
882
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:18.960
looking good and she's not hunched over. She's stand up straight.
883
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.119
And I, like I said, I did not feel the pain.
884
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.480
And I can tell you before when she showed up,
885
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:28.880
I promise you people, it was almost like feeling the
886
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.800
pain energy when she showed up, I think is what
887
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:34.480
woke me up. I don't know how to express that,
888
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.280
but I think I felt her pain and her suffering
889
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:42.920
and her depression before I ever saw her. If that
890
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.679
makes sense. Now I'm getting this blast of and purticure
891
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:48.239
of hey girl, how you doing? You know, it is amazing.
892
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.639
So there she is and I hear her talking to me,
893
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.000
and I'm looking at her and she's just smiling and
894
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:57.239
I'm not even blinking twice that she's not moving her mouth.
895
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.880
And I could totally hear Steve. I could smell her Lynn,
896
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:05.679
you know what I mean. I could smell her familiar,
897
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.559
just her shampoo. I can smell, you know, the way
898
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.000
she smelled when she came inside on a cold day
899
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.239
and gave me a hug. I could smell it. And
900
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:19.880
through telepathically she told me just a bunch of stuff,
901
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:24.320
the short end being just short things, but very profound.
902
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:26.119
You know, you're doing great and very proud of you,
903
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:28.000
Like am I doing the right thing? I can remember
904
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:29.719
at one point I busted out, you know, might do
905
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:31.559
it because I was going in the army. Am I
906
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:33.360
doing the right thing? Is this the right thing? She said,
907
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:36.000
I can't tell you that, you know. And then at
908
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.719
the end she said, you won't see me for a while,
909
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:42.719
but I'll be around and I love you very much.
910
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:47.239
And as soon as she said that, she didn't twinkle out.
911
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:50.440
She just kind of almost like she like you would
912
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:54.000
see in Charles Dickens where they kind of start floating
913
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.960
backwards kind of thing and then just gone twinkled out,
914
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:00.519
and darn if I didn't hear that dag door open
915
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:04.440
and shut again. Never it never moved, it never moved,
916
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:05.800
but I heard it.
917
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.360
What a great Yeah, I'd love to hear you tell
918
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:10.559
that now.
919
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:13.079
I've never heard that story, Sisco. I'm so thrilled that
920
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.679
you share it. That that's that is amazing, and.
921
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.880
It's it's a really nice one. But you know, you
922
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:20.480
kind of stand there and you're just like, what what
923
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.800
just happened? And you know, I have to say that
924
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:27.400
for every story that anybody's ever heard where they say, well,
925
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:29.719
it happened and I just went to sleep, you know,
926
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:33.159
And I can never understand that when you see it,
927
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.519
but you know it happens because I just I was
928
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.800
so relaxed. It's almost like it drained you a little bit,
929
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:40.880
like they're pulling energy from you too. So maybe that's it,
930
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:44.440
Steve that, maybe that's why people just fall asleep because
931
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:45.800
I think it drained your energy to.
932
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.840
Because I think it just wipes you out and they're
933
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:50.119
just like, Okay, I've done all I can do for now,
934
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.800
I got to recharge my batteries, you know, the same
935
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:56.599
with electronics and things. How the batteries are depleted in
936
00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:59.760
the presence of something like that, I think our psychic batteries,
937
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.280
if you will, getting plated that easily.
938
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:04.440
Yes, I agree.
939
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:08.199
And there's an affirmation story right there, my very own
940
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:13.039
experience of how if they if they're stay connected to
941
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.480
the earth, if they're earth, if they're bound to the
942
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:19.679
Earth by their own feelings and their own vibrations are
943
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:25.000
low vibrational stuff connected for whatever. You know, the chains
944
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:28.920
that you know morally form through life, you know however
945
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.599
you want to say it, but just being lonely and
946
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:35.199
hurt and confused and you know, can can hold you
947
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.639
a little bit. And like I said, the best knowledge
948
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:39.840
that we could ever give out on one of these shows,
949
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:45.800
Think Positive, Think Positive Things. It's it's almost like clapping
950
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:48.440
to get Tinkerbell to fly, believe in you know what
951
00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:53.239
I mean. It's just it's so intent, it's so it's look,
952
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:55.119
you can you can feel it when you do it
953
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:58.320
now and you're alive. You can feel the difference between
954
00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:00.639
being said. Turning on the radio and one of your
955
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:02.760
favorite songs come on and by the time you get
956
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:05.039
about ten to twelve beats and you're starting to feel it.
957
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.400
Your foot starts tapping. You feel better, and you're singing
958
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:10.320
in the car at the red light and you just
959
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:12.639
don't even care. You're dancing in the kitchen, singing into
960
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.000
your wooden spoon, whatever's going on. You've just raised your vibration.
961
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:18.599
So if we could just get ghosts to do that,
962
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:23.119
there they go, you know, there they go, floating off
963
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:25.960
into the light. It's wonderful. And I don't know why
964
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:27.800
we make its so difficult, and I don't know why
965
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.239
we get involved in all this. You know, I think
966
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:33.239
it's arrogant to tell ghosts that they have to leave
967
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:35.320
and they have to cross over. No, no, it's not.
968
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.760
It's not arrogant. It's you're not telling them they have
969
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:42.039
to you're telling them like a bartender. Look, honey, you
970
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:44.000
don't have to go home, but you can't stay here
971
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.840
because the living have a choice too. So if you're
972
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:50.400
not going to be cool, you gotta go. You don't
973
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.199
have to go home. You want to go sort it,
974
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:53.679
you want to go talk about it, you want to
975
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:56.559
talk about crossing over. What's your beef? You know you
976
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:59.519
can do that. But the main thing is, I think
977
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:03.760
it's a responsibility of any human being to help another
978
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:06.920
human being and say, look, you don't have to do
979
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:09.119
any of this. But here's the gist. It took me
980
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.920
sixty years to get to this. If you want the
981
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:15.960
information here it is. If not, go haunt somebody's dark cellar.
982
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:19.360
But don't say I didn't try. That's what it is
983
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:23.880
for me. You know, free will, free will, You have it.
984
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:27.320
I have it, thank god, you know. But so do they.
985
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.639
I just think it's sad that people treat them like
986
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:35.000
pets and say, oh, well they're good. No, honey, they're
987
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:38.119
not supposed to be here, you know, if they're working
988
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:41.880
through some part of their journey. Okay, fine, but that's
989
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:46.119
look they have to be if you cannot leave them
990
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:52.000
in that stuck, dingy, depressed, sad, angry, tied up and
991
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:56.119
not stay. That's arrogant to think that you don't have
992
00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:58.239
the time to stop for a minute. Those are the
993
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.760
same people who walk past the scripple this person on
994
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:06.119
the corner because it's it's it's uh, it's it's hard,
995
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:09.079
you know what I mean. It's not pleasant. Well it's
996
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:12.320
not pleasant going down in a deep basement either, and
997
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:17.480
taking a ship ton of chances because you know, you
998
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:19.320
played with a weed board and thought you were going
999
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:23.159
to solve stuff and did whatever else, went on and
1000
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:26.920
did some ritual on the roof and planning your husband's
1001
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.199
underwear in the front yard to keep it from cheating
1002
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.519
on you. Whatever you did, you open some stuff and
1003
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:34.039
now we got to come and we gotta close it.
1004
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:35.840
We got to sort things out. Don't tell me how
1005
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:37.880
to do it, because if you knew how to do it,
1006
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:38.920
you wouldn't be calling me.
1007
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:40.320
Right.
1008
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:44.119
Just people get crazy, Steve, you know what's true.
1009
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.599
Yeah, absolutely, that's so true.
1010
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.199
We'll get somebody and they're on and I'm like, honey,
1011
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:57.800
if you need help, please dm me, email me. I
1012
00:53:57.800 --> 00:53:59.559
don't need to hear the whole Please don't tell me
1013
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.320
the whole thing, because it's sitting right behind you gain
1014
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:06.440
an energy listening to you talking about it, and then
1015
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.360
it's going to go attack your kids because it knows
1016
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:12.800
that's how it gets to you. And I'm trying to
1017
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:17.039
stop you from doing that, and you're doubling down. You know.
1018
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:20.000
It's like they just gotta say it, you know, And
1019
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:22.000
I'm like, look, do you want help, We're gonna start here.
1020
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:25.800
Stop talking about it. Do these things, do these things
1021
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:28.800
in this you know what I mean? And I'll get
1022
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.480
you somebody. I'll get your pro. I'll get your pro
1023
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:34.480
that's been vetted, you know, twenty thirty years through me,
1024
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:37.320
known them this long, you know. But you're gonna have
1025
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.960
to do what they say too, because if you're gonna
1026
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:42.519
do it, you're you've done it your way and now
1027
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.639
you're a mess. You know. I don't know. Does that
1028
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.039
sound arrogant or adamant?
1029
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:49.880
No, I think it's adamant.
1030
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:52.440
Yeah, yeah, I think this sounds adamant too. And the
1031
00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:55.920
thing is also is sometimes people, after they've worked themselves
1032
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.360
into that sort of a situation, then they want help
1033
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:01.079
to get out of But the thing is is do
1034
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.119
they really want the help to get out of it?
1035
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:05.559
Because there are certain work that they also have to
1036
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.920
apply themselves to do in order to meet that goal.
1037
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:13.199
And a lot of times, because of the dysfunctional coping
1038
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:17.559
skills that they've created in order to accommodate whatever they have,
1039
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.719
you know, the spirit in their house or whatever, or
1040
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:24.360
the depression or the attachments or whatever it is, they're
1041
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:30.320
so used to having that maladaption that they are not
1042
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.000
comfortable letting it go once you once they're free of
1043
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.079
that or once they have a better understanding, they want
1044
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:38.559
to dip back down into some of the negative stuff
1045
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.159
and you know, kind of get the ball rolling.
1046
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:45.559
But even I call that paranormal munch housings. Don't we
1047
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:51.679
see there? You go, Yeah, that's exactly what it is,
1048
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:55.239
and it's it's and not only that, but look, I've
1049
00:55:55.239 --> 00:56:00.760
known cases where I mean at great, I mean again,
1050
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:05.320
you know, people have to realize what mediums or people
1051
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:08.400
that go through or you know, people that chaos magic.
1052
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:11.199
Anybody that's going into help I don't care if it's
1053
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.239
a press of pastor aback, it doesn't matter. Anybody that
1054
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:17.360
goes in to help somebody else in this situation is
1055
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:21.519
putting themselves at not only at risk or you know whatever.
1056
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.519
There's a fight going on here, and you may not
1057
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:27.559
see the blows, you may not see the wounds, you
1058
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.159
may not see the torment that that person goes through.
1059
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:32.199
I know one that goes home almost wounds up in
1060
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:37.880
the hospital. Helping people that are extremely flippant, it's very critical.
1061
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:40.840
They think they can do it better. They're not going
1062
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:42.400
to you know, they're not going to do what this
1063
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:46.760
person says you know, stop and think about this, folks.
1064
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:51.079
We've kind of lost our We've got a little dehumanized here,
1065
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:53.960
you know. And that goes for ghosts too, because just
1066
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:57.480
like Consultzer said, you know, I'm not afraid of ghosts.
1067
00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.920
Are just people who need to help. Okay, So they're
1068
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:03.280
people in need of help. It could be you could
1069
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:06.159
be a relative, it could be an ancestor, you know,
1070
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:09.519
at any time. So if you think of it's not
1071
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:13.719
a game, you know, it's more. Look, if we're gonna
1072
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.920
go in here, we're gonna try to communicate, find out
1073
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:19.239
why this person is here. We went, I'll tell a
1074
00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:21.039
quick story that kind of tells a little bit. It
1075
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.000
puts it all in perspective. If that's cool. Going down
1076
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:28.840
to the cellar in Gettysburg and both listen, anybody who's
1077
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:30.960
listened to the radio show tonight, both of them just went,
1078
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:37.199
could we stop you? No? So we're going down to
1079
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:40.960
this damn cellar, right, and this is good. People have
1080
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:43.360
this house. They just acquired this house. It happens to
1081
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:45.480
be on the edge of the battlefield and write smack
1082
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:48.079
dab in the middle of a lot of skirmishes. So
1083
00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:51.840
there are quite a few ghosts camp out in the
1084
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:55.199
cellar downstairs. Why don't ask me why ghosts like dark
1085
00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:57.840
cellars and addicts and quiet corners and things like that.
1086
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:01.239
Time is different to them, things look different. I couldn't
1087
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:04.159
begin to tell you it's different with each one, but
1088
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:08.719
it seems to be a thing. And they tend to
1089
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:12.280
gather with other spirits. And then you've got other spirits
1090
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:14.079
that are there in the same place. They don't even
1091
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:17.199
know the other ones exist, so go figure. So we
1092
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:20.039
go down in the cellar, and in there was a
1093
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:23.880
mixture of this. There was a mom. She had two,
1094
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:26.760
possibly three kids. I'm not one hundred percent sure on
1095
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:30.000
that with her, and I'm not even sure they were
1096
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.360
all hers. I think she had gathered one, and I
1097
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:34.679
think that's why I was getting that off Coump, But
1098
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:38.280
that's just a thought. Then there was another one that
1099
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:42.239
kind of a very more male, stronger energy that kind
1100
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:45.639
of was in charge of the weaker ones, not in
1101
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:48.320
a bad way, but in a protective way, like who
1102
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:50.320
are you and what are you doing here? Kind of thing.
1103
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:57.760
And then there were several Civil War era soldiers there.
1104
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:02.039
Never bothered ask on what side, they didn't say, They
1105
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:07.519
responded to both music. We played neutral music, so we
1106
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:10.760
didn't ask because you know, we just don't do that.
1107
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:14.519
I don't anyway. I tell them either way, you're my brother.
1108
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:18.280
So there was another one that kind of felt off.
1109
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:22.639
Now within this we had some that were willing to
1110
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:24.480
listen to us. We had to go in. I went
1111
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:28.880
in with the other ex soldiers. The soldiers responded well
1112
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:33.199
to everything we were doing. At the very end, we
1113
00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:35.360
did our thing where we kind of connect them into
1114
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:37.760
the love, energy and everything else. And it was lovely
1115
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:45.239
because the ghost, the mom that was there, you could
1116
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:48.360
almost hear her talking to the kids, you know. When
1117
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:49.679
we were saying do you see the light? Do you
1118
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:52.159
see the light? Everything really lightened up. You could feel
1119
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.400
it happening in the room. Ask anybody that was there.
1120
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:57.800
There was like eleven living humans down there and at
1121
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:04.360
least twelve to fourteen ghosts, maybe more so. Anyway, they
1122
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.159
all kind of bunched up in these little sectioned off groups.
1123
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:08.719
It was kind of wild the way you felt it.
1124
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:11.239
But you could almost hear her talking to the kids.
1125
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:13.159
And at the very end, I said, do you see
1126
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:15.199
that light, honey? Do you feel it? Do you feel it?
1127
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:17.800
You know? And she and I said, there it is.
1128
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:20.760
The love's right in there, Go get it. And she
1129
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:24.760
stopped for a minute and you could feel something changed
1130
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:26.760
in her voice. You could hear it come over, that
1131
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:32.320
ovulous thing I think it was, and she said that's simple,
1132
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.679
and I'm like, yeah, baby, that's simple, Go get it.
1133
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:40.039
And it was so cool. Pretty much cleared out the room.
1134
01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:43.960
There was one there that we needed to go get
1135
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:47.599
somebody else, and that's okay. In the paranormal, folks, you
1136
01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:49.880
got to learn when to step back to because there
1137
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:52.599
might be somebody else there that these ghosts want to
1138
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.039
connect with. And it's got nothing to do with you.
1139
01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:58.360
It's got nothing to do with the ability or promena,
1140
01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:02.000
you know, ego. All that shit's got to go because
1141
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.719
this is all about energy and connection. So at that
1142
01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:07.400
point in time, I stepped back, and my friend, who
1143
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.400
was in the Navy, he stepped back, and we were
1144
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:14.039
both getting that this guy was totally different time period,
1145
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:18.000
totally different change. He was there for somebody else and
1146
01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:20.840
had a wholly different agenda, not a bad one, but
1147
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:24.519
more of a protective We got finished business to finish here,
1148
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:28.960
and we had to go get somebody else that could
1149
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:34.760
come and speak with this entity and see what it
1150
01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:37.039
was he wanted and how we could help him. And
1151
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:38.960
then we had to go on the other end to
1152
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.440
the person he wanted to connect with and help on
1153
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.000
that end with the living. So there was a place
1154
01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:46.880
for everybody to write tool for the job, you know,
1155
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:50.960
and a lot of good paranormal investigators they know that,
1156
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.519
and the groups they've become fantastic over the past twenty
1157
01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:57.159
something years. They really have, you know, I know, so
1158
01:01:57.239 --> 01:01:59.920
many good ones that are really deep into it, like this,
1159
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:03.960
get it, you know, So that one we just sorted
1160
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:07.519
it and like I said earlier, sometimes you just got
1161
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:09.840
to give them the information. These things are possible. You
1162
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:12.440
can do these things. You can you can work this out,
1163
01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:15.519
you can you know whatever, and we're willing to help
1164
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:18.320
you do that, you know. And it took another two
1165
01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:21.000
years and then that ghost finally crossed because he was
1166
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.440
done with the living person that they had to deal with.
1167
01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:25.760
He was there to help that living person as well.
1168
01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:28.639
So there's so much to this. You can't just go
1169
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:32.840
in there with a big stick of sage and you know,
1170
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:36.199
whatever else you want to toss at it and just
1171
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:38.119
you know, get on at you know, do you know
1172
01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:40.280
whatever if you could sit down and talk to them,
1173
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:44.559
that's fantastic in that situation. But please, please, please don't
1174
01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:47.320
treat them like pets, or treat them mean, or go
1175
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:50.360
in there provoking things, because you'll meet some bad ones too,
1176
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:54.719
and we all have those stories. So I hope that
1177
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:57.079
gives you an idea. That's one spot with a lot
1178
01:02:57.079 --> 01:02:59.440
of different situations. Every goes different.
1179
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:04.679
Yeah, yeah, very well used to illustrate that several points there.
1180
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.039
Very Well said I agree absolutely.
1181
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:11.239
So like I said, I don't think it has to
1182
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:14.079
do with you know, I tend to come off really
1183
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:18.039
you know. Look, I'm too old to screw around, you know,
1184
01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:22.440
and I just look, I will give everybody a chance
1185
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.159
to give me because there's always something to learn. There's
1186
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:28.320
always something to learn. But please don't tell me that,
1187
01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:30.960
you know, ghost are made out of green yellow and
1188
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.960
you know there's nothing on the other side. It's just
1189
01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:38.239
and you know what, in this world, here's another question,
1190
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:41.000
And I'd love to hear both think in this world,
1191
01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:43.400
maybe that's how their world is going to be. Maybe
1192
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:47.119
they're manifesting that, do you see what I mean? Maybe
1193
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:50.280
that's what they're manifesting. Maybe for them there will be nothing.
1194
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:51.400
What do you think.
1195
01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:53.960
Yeah, I never thought about it that way, but yeah,
1196
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:57.519
it's a possibility. I mean, I don't rule anything out
1197
01:03:57.599 --> 01:03:58.440
at this juncture.
1198
01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:01.400
No, you know, I've never thought about that either. I mean,
1199
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:05.320
most of with my the ability that I have with
1200
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:08.039
the second side in dealing with people that are crossing over,
1201
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:12.599
I've never seen a situation like that. But I'm sure
1202
01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.119
you know, there are certain religions that believe that you
1203
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:16.840
don't go to either place, that you're going to be
1204
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:20.280
reawakened at a time when there's armageddon comes and there's
1205
01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:22.760
going to be one hundred and forty four thousand people
1206
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:25.039
that are going to inhabit the earth and things like that,
1207
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:28.239
So maybe their reality will be.
1208
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:31.440
That maybe more than one thing happens, Maybe more than
1209
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:34.440
one thing happens. Yep, that's right. I don't know.
1210
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:36.639
Yeah, I don't know either. None of us are going
1211
01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:37.760
to know until we get Yeah.
1212
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:40.119
We don't know. I was I couldn't sleep last night.
1213
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.039
I was hitting something and I needed something I hadn't
1214
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.519
heard before that we kept catching my interest where I
1215
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:48.280
can just because I have to click in the part
1216
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:52.480
of my brain that does deductive reasoning or or my
1217
01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:55.840
mind just plays on tomorrow and today, and you know,
1218
01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:58.559
like you know, your mind racist. So I do that
1219
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:00.840
kind of stuff to keep me occupied, so I'll go
1220
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.159
to sleep. It's weird, so I put on I can't
1221
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:07.920
remember what it was. It was just a real good,
1222
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:12.360
mellow sounding story. And it was a guy with a
1223
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.239
British accent. He was He was talking about the things
1224
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:17.599
that happened Skidwalker Ranch. And it was a two parter,
1225
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:20.199
so it's quite a few things. And it was the
1226
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:22.559
early stuff from the very beginning, went all the way back,
1227
01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:25.079
not the show that's on now or anything like that,
1228
01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:27.760
way back to the beginning when you had what was
1229
01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:30.480
his name, nass or whatever the I like him too,
1230
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:35.840
from Coast to coast what's his name, Art Bell or no,
1231
01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:38.719
not Art Bell, Artfell liked him.
1232
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:41.159
I know George George Dory is on there now.
1233
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:43.440
But right he's the other one, the one out of
1234
01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:45.280
l A. I can't remember.
1235
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:47.280
Oh oh yeah, I can't think of his name.
1236
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.119
Back John b well Not not John b Wells. I
1237
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:52.079
actually got to speak to John a couple of times,
1238
01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:58.239
but no, yeah, but he did. He deserves to be
1239
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:00.440
mentioned because he did so much early work on the
1240
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:03.480
skinwalker ranch is who I mean. You know, people are
1241
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:05.559
probably screaming at the thing. Tell me his name. I'll
1242
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:09.800
think of it in a minute. But anyway, they went back, Man,
1243
01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:13.639
this stuff that happened there, you know, this thing that
1244
01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:16.280
comes crawling out of the portal and just runs up
1245
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:19.199
the side of the mountain. But the way they told
1246
01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:22.320
this story was amazing because they brought in all of
1247
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:26.199
the aspects around it, you know, all of the details
1248
01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:30.039
of the smell like a musk. They would smell this
1249
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:34.199
musk first, you know, you know, these different kind of things,
1250
01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:36.719
and I'm like, man, this is just I love it
1251
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:38.440
when they go back to the old stuff because I
1252
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:43.199
believe something happened there. But this I don't know even
1253
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:45.719
what to say about the show. You know, I haven't
1254
01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:49.239
seen the last season or whatever, but I heard enough
1255
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.360
from the first and saw enough from the first to go, yeah,
1256
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.960
I'm not watching this because it felt like o G
1257
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.480
Island to me. It's like, you took a great story
1258
01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:01.360
and for eleven years y'all been Diginga's damn hall and
1259
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:03.840
you know it's it's just the next thing. It's the
1260
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:05.920
next thing. It's like that stake and rock that they
1261
01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:09.559
were carrying around Steve that rock from rod Oak with
1262
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:15.880
the riding guards. Looks like al righting is right in
1263
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.519
that rock, isn't it. Yeah, well, there's some pieces of
1264
01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:22.639
stand down here in this land is only found on
1265
01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:27.440
the shores. The Oh, there's a kitten.
1266
01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:32.119
I'm sorry. I I thought I had anything. Baby, I've got,
1267
01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:37.159
I've got. I've got a herd of six five week
1268
01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:42.800
old barrel kittens that were by the mama. Oh no,
1269
01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:47.119
So they're here with me learning how to potty train
1270
01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:51.840
and I'm feeding them. I found a mother to adopt
1271
01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:54.400
them that had kind of only had one kitten left,
1272
01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:58.840
so she is kind of tubbing them. But I found
1273
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:01.159
a place that's an okill facility. I'm trying to give
1274
01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:03.360
them away, but if I can't, they're going to be
1275
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:06.119
going to a place that adopts them out and we'll
1276
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:07.280
make sure that they get good home.
1277
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:07.920
That's how I.
1278
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:11.159
Got my baby. That's how I got my babies. Oh god,
1279
01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:12.199
that's wonderful.
1280
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.360
That's how I got my dog too. And I mean
1281
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:19.239
we've got cats too, but we can't have ten animals,
1282
01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:23.560
so you know, it's just but they're adorable. There's so
1283
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:25.479
many cute things I'm enjoying them so much.
1284
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:29.720
Oh gosh, it's wonderful. Oh kittens, Oh my god, that's
1285
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:31.880
just that I get my glory with them. I love
1286
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:34.640
nature so much and just my whole life, you know,
1287
01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:37.960
with with with animals has been great and I highly recommend.
1288
01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:39.920
I think those little souls have been put here just
1289
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:43.199
to show us what unconditional love is. And they're so
1290
01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:50.319
they're they're so supernatural animals. Yeah, there's supernat Yeah, I'm sorry.
1291
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:52.880
I thought I keep turning my microphone off because they
1292
01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:58.039
had been sleeping and now they and they are all
1293
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:03.279
over the place. We've got a freeway going through the
1294
01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:05.239
litter box here because like four of them will crawl
1295
01:09:05.319 --> 01:09:08.640
in it at once. As the bathroom. Well, they're so tiny,
1296
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:11.199
but so it's kind of funny because they're just learning.
1297
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:13.680
So it's like monkey, It's like it's like.
1298
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:18.640
Honey out there, I've raised I've raised more uh more babies.
1299
01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:24.079
I just can't even tell you. But yeah, it's like anyway,
1300
01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:27.880
it's skin walk a ranch. There's a lot of stuff
1301
01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:30.279
going on there, and I believe there's places like that,
1302
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.920
you know, I mean, gosh, all these I'm here lately
1303
01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:37.640
out of nowhere, Steve out of nowhere. I'm not looking
1304
01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:40.479
for it. It's in like the natural news.
1305
01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:41.239
You know.
1306
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:44.800
Well, I'm sure my algorithm or something has something to
1307
01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:47.760
do with the news they show me. You know, believe
1308
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:49.680
they show me plenty. I don't want to see.
1309
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:50.439
So I don't know if.
1310
01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:54.159
I believe that or not. But I'm here in portals.
1311
01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:56.079
People are talking about portals, open it up in the
1312
01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:57.000
pine barrens.
1313
01:09:57.199 --> 01:10:00.439
I've got you were messing that to me earlier. Can
1314
01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:04.439
you delve into that a little different now?
1315
01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:07.319
I don't want to delve into no portals, into pine barons.
1316
01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:09.119
I don't want to go in there and not come back.
1317
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:13.880
I paler but creepy. I live right, I'm in the
1318
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.880
pine barrens. I'm not in the thicket of it, let's
1319
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:19.560
put it that way. But the pine barrens are so
1320
01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:25.279
there's something about them. They're just it's creepy, you know,
1321
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:27.439
when you start getting into the thickness of it, the
1322
01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:30.039
pine trees, and then you've got these scrub trees that
1323
01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:32.600
are real low and it's like a thicket. It's almost
1324
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:35.880
like walking through Oh gosh, I don't know if you
1325
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:39.479
know what creep and juniper is it's that groundcover that's
1326
01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:44.159
really sticky. It's like an evergreen tree, but it's those
1327
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:47.439
briars and just all this other stuff. But there's a
1328
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:51.439
whole creepy feeling about this. And it's all like I
1329
01:10:51.479 --> 01:10:55.159
want to say, lower Mid Jersey down all on the
1330
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:57.199
east coast, so it goes all the way down to
1331
01:10:57.239 --> 01:10:59.680
the South Jersey. And this is, of course where they
1332
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:04.479
filmed thirteen what do you call it Friday at thirteen
1333
01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:09.920
Crank Camp, Crystal Lake and that all that's here, yeah, yeah,
1334
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:12.760
well not the camp, but you know camp similar to it,
1335
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:17.399
and it's just creepy. And I've been here in the
1336
01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:19.399
past couple of weeks. All of a sudden, I see
1337
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:22.399
these little news articles and they're weird the way they
1338
01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:23.920
pop up, because it's you know, like when you open
1339
01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:26.439
your computer you got Bing or you got Microsoft or whatever,
1340
01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:29.600
they'll show you news and it's all these ads and
1341
01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:31.720
things when you first open it up. Of course most
1342
01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:34.119
of them have it right, so it's in one of that,
1343
01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:35.640
and I'm like, what do you mean? Portals and the
1344
01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:38.479
pine barrens, And then all of a sudden, something else
1345
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:41.159
on another device somewhere else, or I'm over hearing a
1346
01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:44.399
conversation about the Jersey Devil. All of these things about
1347
01:11:44.439 --> 01:11:46.880
the Pine barrens the past three weeks have been finding
1348
01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:49.800
my ears or my eyes and I'm not looking for it.
1349
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:53.840
And I just think that's so weird. And I've not
1350
01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:56.479
heard anybody talk about I've heard people talk about portals
1351
01:11:56.479 --> 01:12:00.479
in the forest, but nothing specific to Pine barrens. Now me.
1352
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:03.880
I'm not a big Jersey Devil person. It was one
1353
01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:07.079
of those. When I first heard it, I was like, no,
1354
01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:09.319
I'm not, you know, it was just one of those
1355
01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:13.520
and I rarely do that, you know. I mean I
1356
01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:15.359
always put it on the shelf and always be like
1357
01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:18.840
a possibility. But let's admit it, summer on. You know,
1358
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:21.520
that dusty, dark shelf that you probably never going to read.
1359
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.000
You know, it's like we're He's like, okay, I'm not
1360
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:27.840
going to quite mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, just
1361
01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:29.600
it's there just in case you aon need to knock
1362
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:33.199
the dust off it, because that's happened. That's right. But
1363
01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:37.520
thirteen kids and the last one was cursed, And you know,
1364
01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:41.119
I think there's probably some truth somewhere in there. There's
1365
01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:44.039
a nugget of truth. There was probably a lady that lived,
1366
01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:47.720
you know, in a really whirl cabin way in the
1367
01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:51.039
back and had a bunch of kids, you know, something
1368
01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:55.479
along those lines. Because most of these stories and stuff like,
1369
01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:58.720
there's one famous one, I won't say the name. There's
1370
01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:01.000
mostly had something to do with it. Witch. No, there
1371
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:03.600
was no witch. There was no witch. It wasn't hunged,
1372
01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:06.359
wasn't you know? She was probably the lady that made
1373
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:09.520
some merble tea. You know, she actually lived. There was
1374
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:12.039
a person that had that name. But none of the
1375
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:14.600
other stuff is true. Everything else is built off of it.
1376
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.880
And then you've got these wonderful stories with so much
1377
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:22.039
fact and so many witnesses and so much that you
1378
01:13:22.079 --> 01:13:25.039
can prove, and people don't believe them. I don't understand it.
1379
01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:29.640
But to me, that's that's the one with Jersey Devil.
1380
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:32.680
If there's something out there, what the hell will be
1381
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:37.399
living that long that looks like that that supposedly flies,
1382
01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:41.560
you know, Is it possible? Sure, it's possible. Do I
1383
01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:46.039
think it was a cursed child that the mom said,
1384
01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:48.640
you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna give this one to
1385
01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:51.039
the devil, and it shot out of her and went
1386
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:53.279
up the fireplace and lived out in the pine barrens
1387
01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:55.840
by itself a baby, I don't care if it's a
1388
01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:58.479
faro baby with fangs and hooks and all kinds of
1389
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:01.640
it's not going to survive the pine barons without some help.
1390
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:05.439
You know. It had to have been supernatural crazy before
1391
01:14:05.439 --> 01:14:07.720
it got here. It just doesn't make any sense to me,
1392
01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:10.640
you know, big, But I got no problem with dog men,
1393
01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:13.199
no problem. You know. If you told me the government
1394
01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:16.840
made flying babies that flew up fireplace, I probably believe that.
1395
01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:20.680
But I just don't think that. I don't know. It
1396
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:23.159
sounds a little crazy. That's saying something.
1397
01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:28.640
I don't know what you guys in the pine barons
1398
01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:31.039
and what's happening and are people walking through them or
1399
01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:32.079
people disappearing?
1400
01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:35.199
I don't know. I couldn't get any I couldn't get
1401
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:38.520
any It's like it's just like these little there's not
1402
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:39.399
even really.
1403
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:42.560
With the traffic report.
1404
01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:46.800
People talking about it and then oh.
1405
01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:48.880
Yeah, there's portals opening in the pine barns, So be
1406
01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:52.239
careful on your way to work, everybody.
1407
01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:54.560
I think we lost Cisco. She'll be back.
1408
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:59.439
Sorry. I was just preparing a kitty formula to do.
1409
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:01.840
Get ready to do my nightly feeding here.
1410
01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:05.159
So but anyway, yeah, just so, must have hit the
1411
01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:08.239
wrong button and she'll be back with us in a moment.
1412
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:11.880
Good good, I mean, this has been such an interesting conversation.
1413
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:16.760
I love hearing her experiences and yours too, and so
1414
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:18.279
I'm just happy to be here.
1415
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:20.720
Yeah, so I'm so good time.
1416
01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:23.720
Well, we're waiting on her. What's coming up new for you,
1417
01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:25.640
ste besides besides a baby?
1418
01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:26.079
Boy?
1419
01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:30.159
Yeah, the baby's occupying everything right now. I've always got
1420
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:34.079
new videos coming on missing persons and mysteries and on tails,
1421
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:38.359
I'm told. And then this show is weekly, and I've
1422
01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:40.439
got another book I'm working on. This will be my
1423
01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:43.920
twenty first one. And there she is. She's back.
1424
01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:50.920
Okay, there she is. He's wrong. Fell through a portal.
1425
01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:54.479
There she is. I touched my phone and I went
1426
01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:57.800
to a portal. Here I am again. Yeah, I don't
1427
01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:00.720
know the stories. They really don't have a lot of
1428
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:06.439
information in them. And there was a couple places I
1429
01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:08.560
can look and dig up and get some more I
1430
01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:11.479
need to find out. But I started I dig in,
1431
01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:14.159
and what happened was I started finding missing people in
1432
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:17.119
the pine barrens. And that's when I found that story
1433
01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:19.479
and those two people that went missing on their RV
1434
01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:23.159
and they were found. I wish I could remember their
1435
01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:25.279
names and stuff like that, Steve, but I just found
1436
01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:27.079
it this morning. I think I sent it over to you.
1437
01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:32.640
It's a very strange story, apparently, very well like couple,
1438
01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:35.479
nothing strange. They weren't, you know, cooking meth in the
1439
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:39.359
parlor or nothing, and apparently and they weren't doing any
1440
01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:43.680
other kind of weird chicanery shady stuff. And they were
1441
01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:47.439
just a nice talk over the fence neighbors and lived
1442
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:51.840
out there part of the Pine Barons anyway, enough to
1443
01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:55.000
have RVs to go out into. And that was one
1444
01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:56.279
of the things they did when it go out for
1445
01:16:56.359 --> 01:16:59.119
a ride around. I don't know what they were going
1446
01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:01.800
to see, but they did it often. And they went
1447
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:03.960
out this one night and that was it. They weren't
1448
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:07.319
seen again, and I think that they I think I
1449
01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:11.560
recall in the story that they had not told anybody
1450
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:15.239
exactly where they were going. So it was about four
1451
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:17.960
days after they didn't come back where people just started,
1452
01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:18.640
you know, wonder what.
1453
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:21.319
Happens in a lot of these disappearances. People don't leave
1454
01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:26.000
their itinerary. Anybody just suddenly go somewhere. That's that's literally
1455
01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:28.119
like looking for Nila and a haysack if you don't
1456
01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:30.319
even know where to start looking for somebody.
1457
01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:33.920
Goodness, I know, I mean it just and people think
1458
01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:36.640
you're being mean, especially if there's kid, if they're kids,
1459
01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:39.359
Oh mom, you know you don't just slap a GPS
1460
01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:41.439
on the son of a gun on, you know, just
1461
01:17:41.479 --> 01:17:46.560
to be Look, do you know how many stories missing kids, toddlers,
1462
01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:54.359
old people, Alzheimer's, you know, mountain climbers, hikers, blunkers, just
1463
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:57.920
people going off missing all the time. It doesn't matter rich,
1464
01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:01.720
poor otherwise, especially.
1465
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:04.359
In this dan age, especially in this dan age, you
1466
01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:06.880
need to have a buddy system where you at least
1467
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:09.560
reach out to somebody and let them know where you're
1468
01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:10.720
going and who you're with.
1469
01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:14.520
Right, Well, this was they had done it all the time.
1470
01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:18.600
Supposedly they're out there in their own yard. I believe
1471
01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:21.520
they said that they were found. Was it two hundred
1472
01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:22.520
yards from their.
1473
01:18:22.359 --> 01:18:24.119
Home something like that.
1474
01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:25.960
It was fairly close and it was an area of
1475
01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:27.479
previously searched that happens.
1476
01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:31.000
Yes, that's why I had to send it to you.
1477
01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:33.359
I'm like, here we go again, and now it's happening
1478
01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:35.159
out here. I'm sure people have.
1479
01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:38.439
Been going belong to people and then bring them back.
1480
01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:41.640
It's like taunting those search and rescue people like, ha ha,
1481
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:43.279
here they are where you've already looked.
1482
01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:48.319
Yeah, yeah, and they've gotten so with I'm going to
1483
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:51.000
be honest people, I'm telling you, we've gotten so used
1484
01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:53.720
to this. We've been conditioned to believe that if it's happening,
1485
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:55.399
we're going to hear it on the news. If it's happened,
1486
01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:57.279
and we're going to hear it, read it the paper,
1487
01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:01.079
if it's you know whatever, and that doesn't necessarily happen,
1488
01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:06.159
and I'll give you an instant movie that will tell
1489
01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:10.960
you exactly how it goes down Jaws. Because anything that
1490
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:15.560
happens in a coastal town and tourism depends on it,
1491
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:17.640
you're not gonna hear about it. I don't care how
1492
01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:21.560
many people get robbed or pickpocketed on the boardwalk or
1493
01:19:22.399 --> 01:19:27.640
something happens or shark, you know whatever. I've seen all
1494
01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:30.119
kinds of stuff go down and have anything on the
1495
01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:30.760
news about it.
1496
01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:37.359
So or feral people or UFOs or a cult or
1497
01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:39.560
whatever taking people out of the National Park.
1498
01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:40.800
You're not going to hear about it.
1499
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:41.680
You're not gonna hear about it.
1500
01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:47.319
Pigeon Forge, all those places would be a ghost out Kevin.
1501
01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:50.399
Lake, I mean, yeah, so many, so many.
1502
01:19:51.560 --> 01:19:54.039
That's true, That is so true. I mean, there's there's
1503
01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:56.479
so much that's not being shared. But it's because they
1504
01:19:56.520 --> 01:19:59.640
want to keep people going and the herd mentality and
1505
01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:03.359
want to it's all manipulation and control. You know what,
1506
01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:06.319
if what epps were e supposed to be truly what
1507
01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:09.279
they are, that they're not just what IPPs, then they
1508
01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:11.760
wouldn't have the control that they are.
1509
01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:15.439
Trying to keep yep. And granted some people know it
1510
01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:17.600
and do it anyway. Like I mean, if you don't
1511
01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:19.399
know sharks are in the water, I don't know what
1512
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:21.560
tell you. But they're not.
1513
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:25.600
Telling where the guy took his kayak and went up
1514
01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:29.479
that creek where the stuff that happened that inspired the
1515
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:30.840
book Jaws happened.
1516
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:31.960
I sent your video.
1517
01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:35.119
Yeah you did, yeah that nineteen sixteen. Yeah it happened
1518
01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:38.399
right out here in front of us, right here, and.
1519
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:40.079
That was creepy man.
1520
01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:45.119
Yeah, tunnel bridge things and stuff and thinking, you know, yeah,
1521
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:47.319
if there was a shark that swam up in there
1522
01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:49.720
at some point what would keep on from swimming up there?
1523
01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:49.960
Again?
1524
01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:53.199
Do they have a net or no sharks allowed sign?
1525
01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:55.600
How did they prevent that from happening these days?
1526
01:20:55.640 --> 01:20:57.520
It's exactly what they did. As soon as they put
1527
01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:02.399
up the no sharks allowed signs, everything stopped. They know
1528
01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:05.960
how to read. Uh. I actually heard a lady. We
1529
01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:08.520
had a lady that called in and everybody's going to
1530
01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:11.520
think it's fake, what it really wasn't. And she called
1531
01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:14.920
in and she was one of these radio shows out here,
1532
01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:19.119
you know, in the morning show, morning whatever, and they
1533
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:22.840
she called up and she was mad because I'm sorry, Lynn,
1534
01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:25.399
but she had hit a deer and she was angry
1535
01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:27.199
about it. And she said, we need to put the
1536
01:21:27.239 --> 01:21:33.479
deer cross inside in a much better place because the
1537
01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:35.880
deer shouldn't be able to cross here where so many
1538
01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:39.520
cars go. Why can't we put the deer deer crossed
1539
01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:42.840
and signs of it. This was slower traffic area, but
1540
01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:46.239
she was serious. And the morning, Yeah, it was really
1541
01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:48.039
funny because it went, it went all the way to
1542
01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:50.399
Borrow up to New York and stuff like that. Because
1543
01:21:50.439 --> 01:21:53.239
when you're in Jersey, New York, you know, everything kind
1544
01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:55.319
of bleeds into each other. When it comes to New
1545
01:21:55.399 --> 01:21:58.319
York stations and things like that, rock and roll stations
1546
01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:03.000
and stuff. So they yeah, And they at first thought
1547
01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:05.600
she was kiddened it was satire or parody or something,
1548
01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:08.359
but she was dead serious. And she didn't even understand
1549
01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:11.760
that unless they were really punk. She didn't even understand
1550
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:13.840
what they were why they were asking her so many
1551
01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:17.359
questions about it. She's like, I just think that they should.
1552
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:19.159
I mean, don't our tax dollars pay for that? Who
1553
01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:20.720
do we get hold of? Do we get hold of
1554
01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:26.119
the you know, the city? Or I'm tired of these deer?
1555
01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:30.399
That movie's signs, Oh, it was funny, don't well.
1556
01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:33.119
Let me tell you what I I'm used to South
1557
01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:35.920
Carob speaking of deer, I'm used to South Carolina deer.
1558
01:22:36.439 --> 01:22:39.199
I have never seen deer like the kind they had
1559
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:41.800
in Virginia. I thought it was a horse laying in
1560
01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:43.640
the road. The thing was so thick it was a
1561
01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:48.439
it was a stag. So yeah, yeah, did they need
1562
01:22:48.479 --> 01:22:50.680
to put monster like they.
1563
01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:54.039
Yeah, exactly, you need to move on.
1564
01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:55.199
Who knew?
1565
01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:58.079
Yeah, that's sad. I mean, you know it's sad for
1566
01:22:58.159 --> 01:22:59.840
them too. You think that they can put something on
1567
01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:03.840
the cars or some some kind of an echo I
1568
01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:07.279
don't know, vibe or frequency that goes out that, you know.
1569
01:23:07.319 --> 01:23:10.039
I mean, you can get that those little noise makers
1570
01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:12.039
that supposedly frightened animals away.
1571
01:23:12.119 --> 01:23:13.119
But I don't know.
1572
01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:15.640
Sometimes I think the animals will come to see what
1573
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:16.560
all the racket is.
1574
01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:19.760
I agree, maybe so, or maybe it was just a
1575
01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:24.079
deer that just you know, had enough, you know. I
1576
01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:28.039
mean it's got to be rough, you know. I don't know.
1577
01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:30.960
I just think it's sad. I always feel so bad
1578
01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:33.399
for animals who have had to adjust their lives so
1579
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:40.199
much around our you know, our encroachment. Yeah, I was, yeah,
1580
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:44.319
I was gonna say, O, our grotesque, you know, materialistic bullshit.
1581
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:48.239
But you know, I've got eagles right to my left,
1582
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:50.960
right now where I'm sitting, I've got eagles to my left,
1583
01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:54.039
probably about a block away in a cell tower. They
1584
01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:57.439
got a nest in a cell tower, Okay, which is
1585
01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:03.640
so sad. And I've watch the raccoons, you know, they've
1586
01:24:04.119 --> 01:24:06.439
they've got become amazing. They've learned how to do so
1587
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:08.279
much stuff. I mean, people have to put locks on
1588
01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:10.479
the garbage cans, and they figure the locks out, you know,
1589
01:24:10.479 --> 01:24:13.319
the open gates you know, they'll come here and unhook
1590
01:24:13.399 --> 01:24:15.279
my bird feeders and just hand it down to the
1591
01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:18.039
next raccoon and just opened it up and need it all.
1592
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:19.319
And that's why.
1593
01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:23.119
Yeah, the next day it looks like I candy bars
1594
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:25.239
going all the way up down my driveway because they
1595
01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:28.960
ate so much bird seed. The their poop looks like
1596
01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:34.600
the snick of zagnut bars or something. I mean bird seeds, really,
1597
01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:37.600
you know, and it's going up, so you can't. I've
1598
01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:40.079
done all kinds of things. I've hooked them, I've wired them,
1599
01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:43.560
and they sit there, they figure it out. They're gonna
1600
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:45.319
get it. You can't put a sue out here. They'll
1601
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:48.399
take the sewet feeder. One night they just broke the
1602
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:49.960
branch off the tree. Took the whole day of thing.
1603
01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:58.159
I mean, it wasn't I was like five stars, five stars.
1604
01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:01.359
I gave them five stars view. I mean that was
1605
01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:03.840
just okay, I got a hand it to you. You know,
1606
01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:06.319
that's I'm not buying any more suit. But I got
1607
01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:08.560
a hand it to you. That was a good one. Yeah.
1608
01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:11.239
I wired it so good that they couldn't figure how
1609
01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:12.680
to get it off. So they just broke off the
1610
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:15.279
branch and I was like, power to you man.
1611
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:18.960
You know the Braccoon's part.
1612
01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:22.039
I'm just telling that's you know, but look, they've had
1613
01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:23.239
to you.
1614
01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:26.079
Know, yeah, yeah, you know. I mean you drive down
1615
01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:28.760
the road and you might see a deer, you know,
1616
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:31.039
watch for deer sign. And they're literally standing on the
1617
01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:35.279
side of the interstate with their babies eating. You know,
1618
01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:37.720
they're not afraid of the lights anymore. They're not even
1619
01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:40.680
afraid of a tooting horn. And then eventually they decided
1620
01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:41.720
to walk in the road.
1621
01:25:42.119 --> 01:25:44.800
I hate to see it. Love in my yard. I
1622
01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:46.239
get him in my yard once in a while. I
1623
01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:49.960
see him going around and I watched him eat one
1624
01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:53.359
of my trees and I didn't even care. I was
1625
01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:56.399
just so glad. I'm an idiot that's going around the
1626
01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:58.079
next day going we're going to get an apple block,
1627
01:25:58.159 --> 01:26:00.640
you know, to put it out there. But yeah, I
1628
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:03.439
just we got to take care of it, you know,
1629
01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:05.880
we got to take care of nature. And I think
1630
01:26:07.520 --> 01:26:09.680
I think all this stuff we're talking about is just
1631
01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:13.000
as natural. And that's what gets me to be I
1632
01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:15.920
watch people get so upset about all because you don't
1633
01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:18.680
People are upset and scared of what they don't understand.
1634
01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:21.520
I get that, totally get it. And there's such a
1635
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:25.840
realm in this paranormal I mean, you could go everything
1636
01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:29.479
from the Jersey Devil and again, just because I don't
1637
01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:36.399
believe the the origin story of the Jersey Devil, you know,
1638
01:26:37.079 --> 01:26:39.119
that doesn't mean I don't believe in curses. It doesn't
1639
01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:41.680
mean I don't believe that something like that, you know,
1640
01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:45.199
anything like that could be out in the woods. Look,
1641
01:26:45.239 --> 01:26:47.039
there's all kinds of shit out there. I don't know,
1642
01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:49.199
you know, there's some stuff.
1643
01:26:50.279 --> 01:26:56.399
All kinds of there's all kinds of any idea about
1644
01:26:58.399 --> 01:27:02.399
there's probably another half does and that people haven't run
1645
01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:03.239
into yet.
1646
01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:07.720
A thousand times more than the you know, the devil,
1647
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.199
whatever this thing is. I mean, I don't even know
1648
01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:12.159
how old. That story is supposed to go way back
1649
01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:17.560
with like what fifteen sixteen hundred or something, So I mean,
1650
01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:23.479
in what in what world? You know? Now, that's what
1651
01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:26.199
I'm saying. That does doesn't make sense to me. There'd
1652
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:29.079
be one creature for all that amount of time, and
1653
01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:32.960
wouldn't it just get Look, I take my words for it, folks,
1654
01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:36.399
it'd get tired of Jersey the first century. You know,
1655
01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:38.439
it'd be gone, you know, it would be out there
1656
01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:40.479
doing something else. You be out in Hawaii having a
1657
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:42.840
good time. I don't know. I'm just saying, why there?
1658
01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:46.680
You know, now, is there something there? A creature of
1659
01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:49.720
some sort, is probably dog men out there, bigfoots.
1660
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:51.680
There's all kinds of stuff, Like you said, there's all
1661
01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:54.000
kinds of shit in the pine bears. I've heard stories
1662
01:27:54.039 --> 01:27:59.600
out there. The guy that found a pizza in a
1663
01:27:59.640 --> 01:28:02.279
box out there, and that was the same guy that
1664
01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:05.920
observed somebody wearing only a cloud mask and tube sox
1665
01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:08.399
picking his way through the brier patch. But he said
1666
01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:10.479
that was the story for another time, so I never
1667
01:28:10.520 --> 01:28:11.760
did get to hear that one.
1668
01:28:12.199 --> 01:28:16.520
That's crazy. Also one of my favor that's just my
1669
01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:19.479
absolute favorite story, that the guy in the tube sox
1670
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:22.760
and the climb picking his way very very gingerly through
1671
01:28:22.760 --> 01:28:27.239
the brier patch. Bety was, Betty Was, because I'll tell
1672
01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:30.760
you that stuff's about waste tie. You know that it's
1673
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:34.640
it's a thick. It's really strange. It it's almost like
1674
01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:39.039
a like if you said, if I said the word
1675
01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:43.720
scrub pine to you, that gives you a visual of
1676
01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:49.840
just some really gnarly, short, little bushy kind of that's
1677
01:28:49.880 --> 01:28:52.119
what it's like. Mixed in with briers.
1678
01:28:53.439 --> 01:28:56.239
Is not something I'd want to run barrassed. That's just
1679
01:28:56.319 --> 01:28:56.800
what I mean.
1680
01:28:57.079 --> 01:28:59.680
And this couple one that we talked about that went
1681
01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:03.960
miss and was found side by side, okay, and if
1682
01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:07.800
I recall correctly, not far from their RV, that hadn't
1683
01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:11.159
to my knowledge, anything wrong with it, out of gas
1684
01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:14.880
or otherwise. I didn't hear, you know, the RV. And
1685
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:17.680
they're laying there side by side, like you said, Steve,
1686
01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:20.840
in a place that had been searched before several times.
1687
01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:24.119
Yeah, just doesn't make any sense, but yet it happens,
1688
01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:25.439
and that happens often.
1689
01:29:26.079 --> 01:29:29.079
And this was I think twenty Do you recall the date, Steve.
1690
01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:30.760
It was twenty two, wasn't it.
1691
01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:32.079
I think so?
1692
01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:34.680
Yeah, I think so. I think it's the least maybe
1693
01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:38.000
a year, maybe twenty one, somewhe around two years maybe, i'go.
1694
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:40.439
And I never heard a word about it, Never heard
1695
01:29:40.439 --> 01:29:44.720
a word about here. I'm sitting right here, my you know,
1696
01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:48.439
my county, my police, my search and rescue, all of
1697
01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:52.159
that right here. Never heard a word about it. Just
1698
01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:53.680
this is what I'm saying.
1699
01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:55.800
You think they'd come around and say, folks, there's all
1700
01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:57.680
kinds of shit out there. Be careful if you're going
1701
01:29:57.720 --> 01:30:00.399
into the woods, let somebody know where you going, when
1702
01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:03.000
you're going to be back, take something with you and
1703
01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:04.119
be careful.
1704
01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:06.640
But I'm not going to do it. And how many people?
1705
01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:09.800
Until dozens of people? And then maybe we should check
1706
01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:12.319
into that. Maybe we should warn the people here.
1707
01:30:12.920 --> 01:30:15.800
Yeah, and to have them check in with somebody like
1708
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:19.239
every forty five minutes er hour, just to make sure,
1709
01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:22.600
you know, so at least they have a time frame
1710
01:30:22.720 --> 01:30:25.279
of where their last you know, if they're hiking in
1711
01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:28.680
the woods, what marker or what you know, type thing
1712
01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:31.399
that they maybe near, so that if they do disappear,
1713
01:30:31.479 --> 01:30:33.960
they have a you know, a closer starting point to
1714
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:35.439
where the incident occurred.
1715
01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:39.159
Well, that would make too much damn sense, because look
1716
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:45.560
how many shows of Steve done on missing persons, and
1717
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:48.560
one after the other after and some of them shows
1718
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:52.000
got five, ten, fifteen people in them, Steve them all.
1719
01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:57.600
Right, yeah, yeah, compilations there's ten or twelve.
1720
01:30:58.039 --> 01:31:00.399
We can't just go by the amount of video. And
1721
01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:02.760
this man's been doing it for a long time and
1722
01:31:03.159 --> 01:31:06.239
you're not the only one so and and y'all might
1723
01:31:06.279 --> 01:31:09.920
not match up on every case either. So imagine the
1724
01:31:09.960 --> 01:31:13.640
amount of this type of thing happening and nobody is
1725
01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:16.039
telling you. And I'm sitting here telling you as a
1726
01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:20.319
coastal town. You know, Jaws, they're not gonna tell you that.
1727
01:31:20.359 --> 01:31:23.279
Sharks and dagon they're gonna open the beaches and you're
1728
01:31:23.560 --> 01:31:26.239
I'm telling you it's gonna happen. It's seen to happen.
1729
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:29.680
I've seen gone through hurricanes where they said, you know, oh,
1730
01:31:31.039 --> 01:31:33.439
didn't lose anybody, We only lost one hundred people. And
1731
01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:36.319
you know, daggone, well you saw five six hundred, you
1732
01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:40.520
know your very own eyes, time after time after time
1733
01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:42.920
after time, and not just here. So when you hear
1734
01:31:42.960 --> 01:31:46.000
it happen somewhere else, you're more likely to go mm hmm. Yeah,
1735
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:48.920
I've seen it happen here. So when somebody like Elijah
1736
01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:52.399
Steve and I had I remember little Elijah, uh Steve,
1737
01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:57.239
it comes on after from a long uh long beat.
1738
01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:00.359
What's it called again? Land between the Lakes? Right, Land
1739
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:02.800
between the Lakes, which is there right.
1740
01:32:02.600 --> 01:32:06.399
Aft sister Gamby.
1741
01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:12.199
Yeah, I'm sorry, yes, Tennessee. Yeah, So it's Kentucky Tennessee
1742
01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:17.880
border pretty much right there. And I mean just one
1743
01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:21.800
after the other after the other dog men, bigfoot sightings,
1744
01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:27.600
okay from reputable people, you know, retired police officers couldn't
1745
01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:30.680
tell it until they were out, you know. Just the
1746
01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:33.720
list goes on and on. Stephen can back me on that.
1747
01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:38.239
So all these people are having all these experiences and
1748
01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:42.680
the park covering it up, you know, name name when
1749
01:32:42.760 --> 01:32:45.720
it isn't. I mean, how many people go missing at
1750
01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:48.239
a you know, some of these other bigger parks, you know,
1751
01:32:48.359 --> 01:32:49.479
in it's.
1752
01:32:49.399 --> 01:32:53.279
A smaller park than the Great Smoky sees only about
1753
01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:56.279
half the visitors the Great Smoky's, but it's got like
1754
01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:59.039
three times the number of missing people. So there's something
1755
01:32:59.119 --> 01:33:01.720
going on. And you'll send me there's a major cluster there.
1756
01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:03.239
Yep, yep.
1757
01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:03.680
Yeah.
1758
01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:07.159
And then I think the only place they don't have
1759
01:33:07.199 --> 01:33:10.119
them is straight up the middle right stick and they
1760
01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:13.640
probably have them, but not as much, or not the
1761
01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:16.640
same type of clusters or whatever. I don't know, but
1762
01:33:16.960 --> 01:33:21.119
you know, again, I understand the people that go like
1763
01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:23.199
that young man who was that actor that just went
1764
01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:27.319
up the mountain? I think he went on my January fourteenth.
1765
01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:28.960
On my birthday, Julian sayds.
1766
01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:32.680
Yeah, you know, I don't find anything nefarious about that.
1767
01:33:32.720 --> 01:33:34.439
I think the man just went up there and got
1768
01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:38.119
in deeper and he thought something happened, you know, equipment malfunction,
1769
01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:39.159
he malfunctioned.
1770
01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:42.039
Yeah, that was up on Mount Baldy. But I will
1771
01:33:42.079 --> 01:33:45.279
tell you that's a weird place. There's a full pipe
1772
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:47.840
up there for use for irrigation purposes. But I've been
1773
01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:51.359
up there back in the seventies skateboarding in it, and
1774
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:54.000
we spent the night up there. We got caught up
1775
01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:57.479
there and couldn't get a hitchhike back down. And there's
1776
01:33:57.520 --> 01:34:00.520
all We heard all kinds of stuff up there, talking
1777
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:02.600
and laughing and stuff. And as far as I know,
1778
01:34:02.680 --> 01:34:05.479
we were the only ones up there. So there's there's
1779
01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:07.039
a storage that's on Mountain Baldy.
1780
01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:10.680
Yep. You know, I think just about anywhere pick spot
1781
01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:13.319
that isn't you know? Here I am. I've got this
1782
01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:19.239
woman babies flying up fireplaces and stuff. Again, there is
1783
01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:22.880
a legend everywhere. I don't get it. While you got
1784
01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:24.640
to make stuff up when there's so much other shit
1785
01:34:24.720 --> 01:34:29.079
going on, it's you know, And again there could very
1786
01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:31.199
well be a creature out there and got himself a
1787
01:34:31.199 --> 01:34:34.479
cabin we've never bumped into. You know that could be,
1788
01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:38.000
could be invisible. I don't know, you know, but what's
1789
01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:40.960
it doing out there since you know fifteen hundred and whatever?
1790
01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:44.039
You know, is it breeding with it? And if it is,
1791
01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:46.159
was it breeding with the Chihuahwa next noise?
1792
01:34:46.239 --> 01:34:49.920
I think it's time and waiting for its next unsuspecting victim?
1793
01:34:50.439 --> 01:34:57.079
Is that what's happening? The clown mask was accompliced. The guy,
1794
01:34:57.479 --> 01:35:00.079
the naked guy in the cloud masking tube, SOX is like,
1795
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:05.560
you know, it's his, his renfield. Now there's a leaden
1796
01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:08.680
rock there. A little bit more work we can make
1797
01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:09.039
that one.
1798
01:35:09.640 --> 01:35:11.920
You can't even make stuff like that up. I mean,
1799
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:14.479
you hear some of the weirdest stories about places like that.
1800
01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:20.239
You don't have to make anything the stuff that normal
1801
01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:21.720
people tell you.
1802
01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:25.319
That's what I like that. And on top of that,
1803
01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:27.520
you know they say that that's that's the number, like
1804
01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:30.439
we always used to joke to because I was raised
1805
01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:32.920
that family. I told you where I went to stay with,
1806
01:35:33.239 --> 01:35:37.800
very Italian, very Jersey Italian, and that world was opened
1807
01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:40.199
up to me. So that that dinner table talk was
1808
01:35:40.239 --> 01:35:43.680
interesting because you have both sides of it. And I'm
1809
01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:45.560
out here in high school and I was in it
1810
01:35:46.199 --> 01:35:49.319
let me tell you something. Rocky came out, good lord,
1811
01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:54.880
I mean just all kinds of you know, and it
1812
01:35:55.000 --> 01:35:58.680
was all this underlying you know, the you know what,
1813
01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:00.960
the pine bears, that's where they up all the bodies,
1814
01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:04.960
you know, and the meadowlands and that's where they double
1815
01:36:04.960 --> 01:36:07.319
all every Listen, there's got to be a lot of
1816
01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:10.920
bodies because they probably were buried everywhere, you know, band
1817
01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:14.119
dunes and you know, you got if any if anybody
1818
01:36:14.119 --> 01:36:17.960
ever saw Boardwalk Empire, which is a great series by
1819
01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:21.319
the way, just a fantastically done series, but it had
1820
01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:24.119
Steve Bessemian and the whole thing is he was playing
1821
01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:29.760
uh oh, what's his name? Uh Nutley, Natsi, Nutsy, Oh, Nukie,
1822
01:36:29.840 --> 01:36:34.640
Nucky Nuckie, what's his face? From Atlantic City Back in
1823
01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:38.079
the day when it was just coming up. You know,
1824
01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:42.319
it was nothing but sand, you know, and they put
1825
01:36:42.319 --> 01:36:46.600
in the first hotels and stuff. Listen, the hotels in
1826
01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:49.439
the gambling places like that. All that happened before the
1827
01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:53.800
boardwalk because right around before, right before he got involved,
1828
01:36:54.479 --> 01:36:57.960
there was no boardwalk. The boardwalk was put in there
1829
01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.760
because people kept dragging the sand and of the hotels.
1830
01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:04.760
So somebody came up with the idea. I think it
1831
01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:07.560
was there. It was either I know it wasn't Asbury.
1832
01:37:07.840 --> 01:37:10.399
I'm pretty sure it was Atlantic City. Somebody can correct
1833
01:37:10.439 --> 01:37:13.159
me on it. But they came up with the idea
1834
01:37:13.239 --> 01:37:17.319
putting boards out with the spacemen between them so the
1835
01:37:17.399 --> 01:37:19.960
sand would fall down, and they went the other way,
1836
01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:23.239
like from the beach into the hotel. And then eventually
1837
01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:25.720
somebody decided to turn sideways and make it walk in
1838
01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:27.920
front of all of them. So that was kind of cool,
1839
01:37:28.479 --> 01:37:30.159
and that's how you got your boardwalk.
1840
01:37:30.359 --> 01:37:32.840
I didn't know the origin story the boardwalk there, but
1841
01:37:32.920 --> 01:37:34.439
that's fascinating and it makes sense.
1842
01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:38.039
Yeah, it's simple, just something simple, and eventually it got
1843
01:37:38.079 --> 01:37:41.439
lifted up because you know, the they were learning the
1844
01:37:41.479 --> 01:37:44.520
tides and the tables, and you know, things sorted itself
1845
01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:47.239
out by the time you got to where Nukie and
1846
01:37:47.319 --> 01:37:49.359
all them were, you know, really starting to kick in
1847
01:37:49.399 --> 01:37:52.720
with the you know, all of that politics and gambling
1848
01:37:52.840 --> 01:37:56.680
and blackmailing and chicanery and you know, organized crime and stuff.
1849
01:37:57.680 --> 01:38:00.960
You know, it's wild to think of it as nothing
1850
01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:04.960
but some sand dunes and a lot of wild grass
1851
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:08.720
and waves and stuff like that. And where I'm at too,
1852
01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.199
you know, every single beach here has got its origin,
1853
01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:14.319
you know how it came out. But the biggest ones,
1854
01:38:14.479 --> 01:38:16.960
you know, Asbury Park has got a good one too.
1855
01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:20.119
And it was Asbury Park, everybody's heard of because of
1856
01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:24.000
Springsteen and things like that and Stone Pony. But next
1857
01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:27.720
to that is also Bradley Beach. And Asbury got its
1858
01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:31.159
start because these big wings would come in from New
1859
01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:34.640
York and they go out there and they'd start walking along,
1860
01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:36.920
you know, the ocean and get the ocean air. And
1861
01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:38.479
it was a big deal. That's where they were top
1862
01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:40.920
hats to the beach and women wore at least like
1863
01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:44.560
six skirts and big hats and umbrellas and stuff. But
1864
01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:47.720
he went and he got this idea, and his last
1865
01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:50.960
name was Bradley, and he got the idea that laying
1866
01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:56.439
out with his in quotations in his biography, it actually says,
1867
01:38:56.560 --> 01:39:01.359
man servant, so you know, your milin may vary. And
1868
01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:06.800
they would lay out on the beach naked and taken
1869
01:39:07.039 --> 01:39:10.159
the healing salt air, very much like Ben Franklin would
1870
01:39:10.199 --> 01:39:13.359
take air baths. And he thought it would be a
1871
01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:16.159
wonderful healthy thing. And he said, you know what, when
1872
01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:19.319
we get back into the city, I'm going to buy
1873
01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:21.600
a hotel. I'm going to build a hotel here, and
1874
01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:24.840
we're going to run a like a health spot. And
1875
01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:27.920
that's how it started out. Was all done by you know,
1876
01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:30.880
that kind of thing for the very rich, and of
1877
01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:33.520
course they brought their servants with them and the people
1878
01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:35.439
that worked for them, and that's when all the little
1879
01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:40.640
bungalow houses started around the beach, and that's how all
1880
01:39:40.680 --> 01:39:43.279
of this stuff grew up. And then somehow it got
1881
01:39:43.279 --> 01:39:48.239
turned into the you know, like all touristy and big
1882
01:39:48.279 --> 01:39:52.720
places like these big theme parks and big national parks
1883
01:39:52.760 --> 01:39:56.199
apparently that don't want to tell you that, you know,
1884
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you should bring protection and there's actually stuff in there
1885
01:39:59.079 --> 01:40:01.960
you should work you about, you know. But at this
1886
01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:05.399
point you're going into the woods without telling somebody where
1887
01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:08.239
you are, and you don't have any protection whatsoever, and
1888
01:40:08.239 --> 01:40:10.840
you're not aware or where you're going, you probably didn't go.
1889
01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:16.439
Also, also stories I've heard of like an animal park
1890
01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:18.600
or something up there where they let the animals go,
1891
01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:22.119
and that in the pine barrens too, where there's supposedly
1892
01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:25.600
jungle land or something like that, they close down and
1893
01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:28.439
then they just left all the animals. So there's maybe
1894
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:31.680
wild animals remnants up there running around eating people.
1895
01:40:31.840 --> 01:40:32.039
You know.
1896
01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:34.439
I recall hearing something similar to that, But I'd be
1897
01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:37.840
lying if I said I knew the story. There's been
1898
01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:41.720
so many stories around here. There's just I think what
1899
01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:44.239
it is, Steve, is there's, like I said, there's a
1900
01:40:44.239 --> 01:40:47.439
creepy place that actually feels creepy, not because you've been
1901
01:40:47.520 --> 01:40:50.720
told it's creepy or that something creepy's gone on there.
1902
01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:54.000
You just feel it. You know, these places we walk into,
1903
01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:56.640
we've all done it, and you know, you might be
1904
01:40:56.720 --> 01:40:58.920
riding on the road and feel it. You know, you
1905
01:40:59.039 --> 01:41:01.079
feel it when you're going into Gettysburg, you feel it
1906
01:41:01.119 --> 01:41:04.239
when you're you know all that. So I think there's
1907
01:41:04.279 --> 01:41:07.640
places already feel like that. And then people, you know,
1908
01:41:07.680 --> 01:41:09.800
of course you and I've talked about this too, about
1909
01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:13.079
you know, parents make up stuff. Every culture has got
1910
01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:17.479
him all around the world, the Boogeyman, the the you know,
1911
01:41:17.600 --> 01:41:21.239
name him off. You know, it could be anything, the
1912
01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:24.039
Baba Duke and all these other things. There's all the
1913
01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:29.680
different you know, crampus, and they make up stuff to
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01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:32.600
keep kids in line, you know. And I think some
1915
01:41:32.600 --> 01:41:37.119
some old adults are just mean too. They Yeah, like
1916
01:41:37.159 --> 01:41:40.000
you have your old grandfather just you know, you know, hey,
1917
01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:42.079
hey go take the garbage out, you know, don't let
1918
01:41:42.119 --> 01:41:44.760
the you know, bloody bill get you. You know, you
1919
01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:45.640
know that grandpa.
1920
01:41:46.159 --> 01:41:49.199
You know that grandpa, right, buddy bones.
1921
01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:53.079
That's it? Yeah, yeah, I forget. Didn't we talk about
1922
01:41:53.119 --> 01:41:53.840
that not long ago?
1923
01:41:56.920 --> 01:41:58.920
The green eyed woman. I don't know what that was.
1924
01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:01.920
But when I was a kid, don't you go out
1925
01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:03.960
there in the garage and mess around because there's a
1926
01:42:03.960 --> 01:42:04.920
green eyed woman.
1927
01:42:04.760 --> 01:42:06.800
Out there that will get you. And that's really not
1928
01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:07.920
even anything frightening.
1929
01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:14.920
But got a teenage boy, he'd run out there. Yeah, say,
1930
01:42:14.960 --> 01:42:17.399
we got a green issue of Redhead hit me running.
1931
01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:19.560
You know, that would only work till you got out
1932
01:42:19.600 --> 01:42:23.119
of childhood. I think after was something different. That's funny.
1933
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:26.399
But get scared me when you said it, just the
1934
01:42:26.439 --> 01:42:28.319
way you said it kind of scared me, didn't it
1935
01:42:28.359 --> 01:42:32.279
scare you a little? It's like what green eyed woman?
1936
01:42:32.319 --> 01:42:33.079
I don't want to do?
1937
01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:40.479
Yeah, but yeah, it was waste any time in the garage. Course,
1938
01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:43.720
you know, there was chemicals and gasoline and stuff out
1939
01:42:43.760 --> 01:42:45.439
there that I wasn't supposed to be messing with.
1940
01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:49.479
But that was just a good story. I didn't ask
1941
01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:51.479
her to elaborate. I didn't want to know. That was enough.
1942
01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:53.800
There was a green eyed woman out there, that's it.
1943
01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:58.000
You'd have a garage, I did.
1944
01:42:58.640 --> 01:43:01.479
It's funny. I'm just thinking about the old mean grandfather,
1945
01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:04.760
the grandpa's stuff. You know, that glad to rattle the
1946
01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:07.560
gas cans to make you jump and just laugh. You
1947
01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:11.199
know that kind of guy. You know, that's funny. I'm
1948
01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:12.079
sorry I didn't go ahead.
1949
01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:15.119
No, no, no, it's okay. I was just thinking of
1950
01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:17.319
what you were saying. You know about that again, you know,
1951
01:43:17.359 --> 01:43:19.840
the manipulation and the fear. But you know, thinking about
1952
01:43:19.840 --> 01:43:21.159
some of these things, and I don't know a lot
1953
01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:24.159
about the area that you were talking about, but even
1954
01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:26.039
in general, with some of the parks and things like
1955
01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:29.479
that where people disappear, I mean, some of these things,
1956
01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:34.159
like even Bigfoot, they manipulate the dimensions and the veils,
1957
01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:38.800
and they use portals sometimes where they exit from here
1958
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.159
and then turn to somewhere else, and they can grab
1959
01:43:41.199 --> 01:43:44.159
people and take them through the portals with them, you know,
1960
01:43:44.279 --> 01:43:46.600
and could be a reason why, you know, all of
1961
01:43:46.640 --> 01:43:48.640
a sudden, they've searched this area and now all of
1962
01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:51.199
a sudden, these bodies show up because they threw them
1963
01:43:51.279 --> 01:43:53.960
back out of the portals, back into this dimension.
1964
01:43:54.039 --> 01:43:56.960
And I believe it. I believe it. I believe it.
1965
01:43:57.319 --> 01:43:59.399
I believe they take them up, they take them through,
1966
01:43:59.439 --> 01:44:03.039
they take them down and take him in out sideways.
1967
01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:06.399
I mean, is it not true, Steve? I mean, we've
1968
01:44:06.439 --> 01:44:11.800
got we've got accounts of people being taken up. You
1969
01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:15.720
can hear the wind as their cell phone falls away
1970
01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:18.640
and breaks or whatever. You know, you know what I'm
1971
01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:21.560
talking about, Steve, Where they say it was such a
1972
01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:24.560
wind and you can almost hear this like they were
1973
01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:27.840
talking on the phone or it recorded when it was doing.
1974
01:44:28.640 --> 01:44:31.439
You know, he's talking to a voicemail so recorded on
1975
01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:35.079
their side and they can hear it. It's just there's
1976
01:44:35.359 --> 01:44:39.680
and this something else that intrigues me too, is this
1977
01:44:40.359 --> 01:44:47.119
sound of the metal trap closing. Yeah, you know you
1978
01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:48.119
know what I mean, Steve.
1979
01:44:48.920 --> 01:44:51.880
Yeah, I've heard stories of that. I've heard more than one.
1980
01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:54.680
Fund in the woods. Myself, I had some some missing
1981
01:44:54.720 --> 01:44:56.760
time that went along with that as a teenager. But
1982
01:44:57.680 --> 01:44:58.760
there's something out there.
1983
01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:03.039
There is There was recently some people that were doing
1984
01:45:03.079 --> 01:45:07.520
investigations out and I think it was a Skinwalker Ranch area,
1985
01:45:07.680 --> 01:45:12.319
and they were taking a picture of something and somehow
1986
01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:14.600
or he was taking a picture of a person or
1987
01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:17.800
a selfie of himself or something, and there was nothing
1988
01:45:17.840 --> 01:45:19.920
around him, but he could feel that there was something
1989
01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:21.880
around him. And then all of a sudden, when they
1990
01:45:21.880 --> 01:45:24.439
went back and they looked at the picture, this guy
1991
01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:27.880
had on these navigator type sunglasses with the moss on them,
1992
01:45:28.039 --> 01:45:30.640
and you could see the face of Bigfoot in the
1993
01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:34.720
in the lens of his glasses. So yeah, but yet
1994
01:45:34.840 --> 01:45:37.760
there was nothing there. But actually there was something there
1995
01:45:37.760 --> 01:45:41.439
because they were manipulating the veils through the portals. They
1996
01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:44.560
were standing right there. And yeah, I saw that.
1997
01:45:44.760 --> 01:45:48.119
I agree, I saw it. I agree. And again it's
1998
01:45:48.159 --> 01:45:52.079
it's almost like you're thinking of it's just the formula,
1999
01:45:52.960 --> 01:45:57.279
you know, it's the reflection back and you know what
2000
01:45:57.279 --> 01:46:01.359
I mean, it's like almost three times. Yeah, and I
2001
01:46:01.399 --> 01:46:05.199
mean like you're catching in between the dimensions there or something.
2002
01:46:05.560 --> 01:46:09.319
It's it's very intriguing. Yeah, they're right there in a
2003
01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:11.199
lot of cases. Yes, I believe that.
2004
01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:13.760
Like you said, I mean, there's so much more to
2005
01:46:13.920 --> 01:46:16.680
it that we just don't know, and we won't know
2006
01:46:16.840 --> 01:46:20.560
probably until you know, we we cross over or the
2007
01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:23.880
things are finally exposed or acknowledged and more people come together.
2008
01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:27.520
And you know, with this dimensional shift that we're going
2009
01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:30.560
through right now, that's elevating the energies to the fifth
2010
01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:33.520
versus the third, a lot of these portals and these
2011
01:46:33.640 --> 01:46:35.840
these ways that they travel are going to start to
2012
01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:36.560
be exposed.
2013
01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:40.880
Yep, yep. And I hope the uh, Steve, and I've
2014
01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:43.720
always hoped that they never catch them, never get caught.
2015
01:46:43.800 --> 01:46:48.600
Never there's something, there's a there's something in place that's
2016
01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:51.600
just not going to allow it in some way or another,
2017
01:46:52.039 --> 01:46:55.039
at least not yet for whatever reason. And I hope not.
2018
01:46:55.399 --> 01:46:57.880
And I'm one hundred percent convinced and have most of
2019
01:46:57.880 --> 01:47:02.520
my life been convinced through more of the Native American
2020
01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:07.319
kind of belief and not just like from one place,
2021
01:47:07.439 --> 01:47:10.439
but you know, it started with my grandmother, little bits
2022
01:47:10.439 --> 01:47:12.560
here and there, but picking it up and then that
2023
01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:14.840
intriguing my inswers, so of course I'm going to pick
2024
01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:18.079
them up in other places too. About I absolutely believe
2025
01:47:18.119 --> 01:47:21.560
there's more than one kind when you're talking about and
2026
01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:25.479
I think the difference between the two types, if not
2027
01:47:25.640 --> 01:47:28.600
more at the very least two types, would be the
2028
01:47:28.640 --> 01:47:33.520
difference between a wolf and a German shepherd. Oh yeah,
2029
01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:40.439
definitely can catch my dress. Yes, more domestic, more, more acclimated, more,
2030
01:47:40.800 --> 01:47:43.319
you know, probably could if they wanted to go, you
2031
01:47:43.319 --> 01:47:46.800
know whatever. And I think the others are can be
2032
01:47:46.920 --> 01:47:51.119
protectors and also predators, you know, so again you've got
2033
01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:54.720
split groups in those just like us, just like what
2034
01:47:55.640 --> 01:47:57.760
you know. Doesn't that make sense, Steve? I mean just
2035
01:47:57.840 --> 01:48:02.079
like why you know? And I think that causes all
2036
01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:06.640
of the you know, the tension into you know, people
2037
01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:09.840
trying to sort it too, because you know, if we
2038
01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:12.399
can't just accept the fact that we don't have all
2039
01:48:12.399 --> 01:48:16.920
the answers, and if we widen that that space, it's
2040
01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:20.199
like when you move up to your your your forty
2041
01:48:20.279 --> 01:48:23.159
thousand foot view, you can get a much better view.
2042
01:48:23.239 --> 01:48:25.479
And then if you can do that around people that
2043
01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:28.960
can actually talk about stuff and not worry so much
2044
01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:31.520
about you know, my story is bigger than your story,
2045
01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:34.840
or I know, my ability is more. Okay, Look, it
2046
01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:37.439
takes a village, you know. Do you want to leave
2047
01:48:37.479 --> 01:48:39.399
here with a little bit more answers and maybe have
2048
01:48:39.479 --> 01:48:41.359
it a little easier on the other side, or get
2049
01:48:41.399 --> 01:48:43.800
to the other side, or maybe not getting here stuck
2050
01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:46.640
or maybe not, or maybe being able to help a
2051
01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:49.600
situation that you're in or some a loved one is in,
2052
01:48:49.720 --> 01:48:54.319
or whatever, just just to expand your thinking, you know,
2053
01:48:54.760 --> 01:48:57.119
maybe not be so close book about it. You know,
2054
01:48:57.520 --> 01:48:59.960
Steve and I have had guests and stuff. We've just
2055
01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:04.359
you know, God bless them. But because you're being polite
2056
01:49:04.359 --> 01:49:07.680
and you've invite them to your house, so you and
2057
01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:11.279
they are absolutely free for any way they want to
2058
01:49:11.279 --> 01:49:13.600
think upside down on the other but they're on the
2059
01:49:13.640 --> 01:49:17.319
other side and they're a whole hog on something completely
2060
01:49:17.720 --> 01:49:20.640
that you sorted twenty five years ago. But you have
2061
01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:23.039
to let them do it, not only because it's the
2062
01:49:23.119 --> 01:49:24.840
right thing to do, because they have every right to
2063
01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:27.680
feel and say how they want to feel. But they're
2064
01:49:27.680 --> 01:49:31.039
not going to convince you, you know. Like I said,
2065
01:49:31.119 --> 01:49:33.479
I started this whole thing with, like, please don't tell
2066
01:49:33.479 --> 01:49:35.880
me ghost to made of green jello, because I know better.
2067
01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:40.680
You know, you're welcome to your green jellal chocolate pudding,
2068
01:49:40.720 --> 01:49:43.800
vanilla sprinkles. I don't care what you're doing over there,
2069
01:49:44.399 --> 01:49:47.479
you know, but if you're coming over here, you know,
2070
01:49:47.560 --> 01:49:50.680
everybody here is in a different part of consciousness and
2071
01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:53.720
we're all just trying to gather data, put it on
2072
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:56.479
our shelves, and we can sort it as we need
2073
01:49:56.479 --> 01:49:57.159
to be later on.
2074
01:49:57.319 --> 01:49:59.880
There's so many different things. Back in college, I took
2075
01:49:59.920 --> 01:50:04.159
it class and critical thinking, and the professor was like,
2076
01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:07.079
how can we prove the pigs don't fly? And somebody
2077
01:50:07.159 --> 01:50:08.720
was like, well, you take them up on a cliff
2078
01:50:09.239 --> 01:50:11.000
and you throw them off, And he said, you didn't
2079
01:50:11.119 --> 01:50:13.960
didn't prove that they couldn't fly. You just proved that
2080
01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.520
they didn't fly. Maybe they can fly and they chose
2081
01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:19.279
not to fly. So you know with those kind of
2082
01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:23.159
arguencies that you can't prove any of this stuff those
2083
01:50:24.279 --> 01:50:26.079
and even at the end it was like, well all
2084
01:50:26.119 --> 01:50:29.199
you prove was that particular pig chose not to fly.
2085
01:50:29.359 --> 01:50:32.439
You still hadn't didn't prove that he couldn't fly. So again,
2086
01:50:32.520 --> 01:50:34.720
it's just it's the same with his ghosts. It's not
2087
01:50:34.760 --> 01:50:37.800
a one size fits all, And yes, your mileage will
2088
01:50:37.880 --> 01:50:39.560
vary considerably.
2089
01:50:39.399 --> 01:50:44.199
Yeah, absolutely, and it's all. And I think it's even deeper,
2090
01:50:44.720 --> 01:50:48.880
because why not. I think it's more complex than we
2091
01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:53.560
could ever know and more simplistic than we could ever understand.
2092
01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:57.000
And if we can find a happy medium between there
2093
01:50:57.119 --> 01:51:01.399
and just let it be and just instead of fighting
2094
01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:04.720
against it kind of you know, wow, that was cool.
2095
01:51:04.920 --> 01:51:07.520
You know, maybe that butterfly was Uncle Frank. I'm going
2096
01:51:07.560 --> 01:51:10.680
to say it was why not whistle along? You know,
2097
01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:13.760
my merry way? Who did I hurt? You know? And
2098
01:51:13.840 --> 01:51:17.079
maybe I thought of Uncle Frank and he smiled wherever
2099
01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:20.720
he may be. You know, my thinking is different than
2100
01:51:20.760 --> 01:51:23.479
some other people's because I think that's possible. And not
2101
01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:25.960
only do I think it's possible, I think it's probable.
2102
01:51:26.640 --> 01:51:29.680
You know, yep, totally totally agree.
2103
01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:32.680
I mean my I've made mention too, you know, with
2104
01:51:33.359 --> 01:51:36.920
people making packed with their loved ones even after they've
2105
01:51:36.960 --> 01:51:40.279
passed because they can hear you, and you know, and
2106
01:51:40.399 --> 01:51:44.079
showing up. My sister leaves feathers and she shows up
2107
01:51:44.119 --> 01:51:47.319
as dragonflies, so you're bringing up the dragonflies and sometimes
2108
01:51:47.319 --> 01:51:50.359
she flies with my sister. She's one's blue eyed, one's
2109
01:51:50.439 --> 01:51:52.319
green eyed, and they always show up, one green one,
2110
01:51:52.399 --> 01:51:55.560
one blue one. My mother leaves hair, So you know,
2111
01:51:55.920 --> 01:51:57.119
all of that is possible.
2112
01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:01.720
Yeah, it's his individual as they are and as we are,
2113
01:52:01.840 --> 01:52:04.960
because I do believe that that energy that we were
2114
01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:10.279
talking about before about think about that, folks. You know,
2115
01:52:10.399 --> 01:52:15.359
I've got friends, dear friends and acquaintances throughout my life
2116
01:52:15.399 --> 01:52:18.239
that were remote viewers, and I used to sit and
2117
01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:23.760
and something. I want to say the natives that I've
2118
01:52:24.119 --> 01:52:26.960
had the chance to talk to about this in my lifetime.
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01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:30.000
I don't want to single out anyone probe because at
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this point everybody's kind of mixed anyway when it comes
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01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:35.439
to thoughts, and you know, there are some that are
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01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:37.720
only held by Navajo and some that are only you know,
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01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:42.439
more traditional to this tribe or that. But with these people,
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01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:46.439
it was all it's how. It's not so much you're
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01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:50.520
manifesting it yourself, because there are going to be things
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01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:52.560
that are what they are no matter what you think
2127
01:52:52.640 --> 01:52:58.960
or feel. But how your journey is your choice. We
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01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:01.279
all go about it a little different because we all
2129
01:53:01.279 --> 01:53:03.680
go about life a little different, even though we all
2130
01:53:03.720 --> 01:53:05.960
pretty much want the same thing, and we all go
2131
01:53:06.039 --> 01:53:08.920
about fighting through it, you know, in a lot of ways,
2132
01:53:09.039 --> 01:53:11.600
for a lot of different reasons. You know, culture and
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01:53:11.880 --> 01:53:16.159
time and you know just so much going on around you.
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01:53:16.720 --> 01:53:19.479
What were you born into? You just think about you
2135
01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:23.399
ever thought about how different your life could be if
2136
01:53:23.399 --> 01:53:25.760
you're just born in another zip code or in another
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01:53:25.800 --> 01:53:31.520
country or another I mean, wow, wow, I mean I
2138
01:53:31.560 --> 01:53:37.159
think about or another way. Yeah yeah, And how quickly
2139
01:53:37.199 --> 01:53:39.479
you can change it too, and by doing this the opposite,
2140
01:53:39.560 --> 01:53:41.760
say you're in a bad situation or you know, people
2141
01:53:41.840 --> 01:53:44.720
don't often think about that where it was always so
2142
01:53:44.840 --> 01:53:47.039
easy for me because my mom moved around a lot
2143
01:53:47.039 --> 01:53:48.720
when I was a kid. So got in my blood,
2144
01:53:48.800 --> 01:53:52.359
you know, very nobody kind of gypsy kind of you know,
2145
01:53:52.960 --> 01:53:56.159
it's like no problem, pick up, go and bloom where
2146
01:53:56.159 --> 01:53:58.560
you're planting, you know, just the way they used to
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01:53:58.600 --> 01:54:02.079
do it, you know. And then some people you talk
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01:54:02.119 --> 01:54:04.319
to him, lived you're all my life. I heard a
2149
01:54:04.359 --> 01:54:06.239
guy express it the other day. I love the way
2150
01:54:06.239 --> 01:54:08.520
he said, he goes, lived here all my life, boy,
2151
01:54:08.520 --> 01:54:14.039
And man, I loved it. You know. But how different,
2152
01:54:14.399 --> 01:54:18.079
how different the world looks, not better, not not not better,
2153
01:54:18.199 --> 01:54:22.960
not worse, not just different. And it's all about where
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01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:25.000
you are and how you perceive where you.
2155
01:54:25.119 --> 01:54:28.560
Are, about the journey and how you adapt to it
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01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:32.079
and how you you make of it. Well, was all
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01:54:32.119 --> 01:54:34.920
that said. We're almost out of time here, ladies. This
2158
01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:39.319
has been just amazing amount of fun tonight and closing,
2159
01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:42.920
let everybody know what y'all individually have going on and
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01:54:42.960 --> 01:54:44.840
where people can find you, and I'll put it in
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01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:45.520
the show notes.
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01:54:46.039 --> 01:54:48.479
Go ahead, go ahead, Lynn, Well you can find you
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01:54:48.560 --> 01:54:49.760
with Cisco on Sundays.
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01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:53.159
So as we're doing a series right now, the last
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01:54:53.159 --> 01:54:55.319
Sunday of every month. I hope to be on with
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01:54:55.359 --> 01:54:56.479
Steve again soon.
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01:54:56.720 --> 01:54:59.279
So much fun. It's called tell him what It's called. Lynn.
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01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:04.399
We're doing a summer event and it's called come on
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01:55:04.479 --> 01:55:07.359
the Show. It's a Sunday nights, eight pm Eastern Time,
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01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:10.279
and Lynn and I are doing something all summer we
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01:55:10.319 --> 01:55:15.079
did we started. It's called Liberty, Liberty, Revolutionary Wind and
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01:55:15.119 --> 01:55:17.119
we're going all the way back to the beginning. And
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01:55:17.159 --> 01:55:20.199
we had a wonderful documentary from nineteen ninety seven that
2174
01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:22.920
we were watching. We're watching it live with our chat,
2175
01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:26.159
having a blast in the chat and just everybody throwing
2176
01:55:26.199 --> 01:55:28.640
their ideas and what they thought the stories were, like,
2177
01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:31.880
was George Washington the Cherry Tree true? Or you know
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01:55:32.039 --> 01:55:34.600
was that legend? And just all the little things too,
2179
01:55:34.640 --> 01:55:37.359
and about you know, so many interesting things, so many
2180
01:55:37.680 --> 01:55:40.800
beautiful minds and wonderful words that you know, really kind
2181
01:55:40.800 --> 01:55:44.479
of profound today and having a blast, and then we're
2182
01:55:44.479 --> 01:55:48.279
going through Sons of Liberty, and we're going to talk
2183
01:55:48.279 --> 01:55:53.680
about the difference between reality and what actually happened in
2184
01:55:53.720 --> 01:55:56.720
that series and fun with it because it's just such
2185
01:55:56.760 --> 01:55:59.680
a fun, wonderful history series, even though a lot of
2186
01:55:59.720 --> 01:56:04.039
it did happen. And then we're going into what really
2187
01:56:04.079 --> 01:56:08.880
happened in turn with the cop perspiring and all of
2188
01:56:08.920 --> 01:56:15.039
the fantastic spies that General Washington had and how that
2189
01:56:15.199 --> 01:56:17.800
had to do with the birth of this country. So
2190
01:56:17.800 --> 01:56:20.119
we're having a blast with that. We are.
2191
01:56:20.159 --> 01:56:23.600
And also Cisco's always she's amazing and she always puts
2192
01:56:23.680 --> 01:56:27.319
her the twist on it with the little you know,
2193
01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:32.199
some different you know, tapings of different scenarios and things
2194
01:56:32.239 --> 01:56:34.479
that have occurred that she adds in there so that
2195
01:56:34.520 --> 01:56:36.640
people can really get the point and they can really
2196
01:56:36.640 --> 01:56:39.760
really understand it. So I'm having a blast with this.
2197
01:56:39.840 --> 01:56:42.560
I'm so I feel so fortunate that Cisco has invited.
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01:56:42.680 --> 01:56:44.399
Oh, it's been so much fun. We're gonna have fun.
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01:56:44.439 --> 01:56:46.600
It's been a nice thing to go through the number.
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01:56:46.680 --> 01:56:49.439
It doesn't only remind us of history, but we're also
2201
01:56:49.600 --> 01:56:52.399
doing it because we both believe in a lot of
2202
01:56:52.399 --> 01:56:55.079
this isn't getting taught in school. And you know, when
2203
01:56:55.119 --> 01:56:57.680
you go back to the you know, the PBS in
2204
01:56:57.680 --> 01:56:59.760
in the nineties they were kind of still telling the
2205
01:56:59.760 --> 01:57:03.119
truth and we're mucking it up so much. And it's
2206
01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:05.439
good to sit down with the grandkids or some maybe
2207
01:57:05.439 --> 01:57:08.239
watch it or or maybe you or you know, uh,
2208
01:57:08.840 --> 01:57:11.159
you know, you want to look at how the Declaration
2209
01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:14.159
of Independence and you know it's not even called that,
2210
01:57:14.399 --> 01:57:16.359
you know, so go in there and look at that
2211
01:57:16.439 --> 01:57:19.319
and see what's different on that that we've been you know,
2212
01:57:19.720 --> 01:57:22.239
we're used to saying. But go back to that, you
2213
01:57:22.279 --> 01:57:25.319
know that Ben Franklin and what happened there, what did
2214
01:57:25.359 --> 01:57:28.960
he actually do, you know, And how how cool George
2215
01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:32.319
Washington was and how he worked with what he had
2216
01:57:32.359 --> 01:57:36.399
to work with. He adapted and overcame and it really
2217
01:57:36.439 --> 01:57:40.079
had nothing to do with Milton. It had more with endurance,
2218
01:57:40.359 --> 01:57:45.079
belief and an idea that he just would not allow
2219
01:57:45.560 --> 01:57:49.079
to be killed and he you know, and it's amazing
2220
01:57:49.159 --> 01:57:51.079
to see what human beings can do. And I think
2221
01:57:51.119 --> 01:57:54.439
it's very hopeful. So that's what we're doing all summer.
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01:57:54.479 --> 01:57:56.560
We're having a blast with it. Come and come and
2223
01:57:56.560 --> 01:57:58.520
do it with us. A Journey through the Gate on
2224
01:57:58.600 --> 01:58:01.880
YouTube Sunday nights and Mondays with Steve. That's what I've
2225
01:58:01.880 --> 01:58:02.319
been doing.
2226
01:58:03.439 --> 01:58:07.039
I'm links in the notes here. Well on behalf of
2227
01:58:07.359 --> 01:58:10.279
Cisco and Lynn and myself. We'll see you a little
2228
01:58:10.359 --> 01:58:14.119
further on down the paranormal trail. Tell your animals way said.
2229
01:58:14.159 --> 01:58:15.920
Hi. Good night, everybody, good night.
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01:58:16.119 --> 01:58:24.720
I'm good humans.
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