Dr. Jonathan Reed May 23rd 2026 with Co-Host Dr. J From Dr. J Radio Live.

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Good evening, night travelers, and welcome back to midnight frequency
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radio with the signals cut through the noise and the
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unknown is never off limits. I'm your host, Carl Richardson,
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coming to you from the Ozark Foothills in northeast Arkansas,
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a place where the night feels just a little deeper
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in the silence, sometimes feels like it's listening back now,
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before we begin tonight's program, there's a story developing that's
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been sending shock waves to the UFO research community. Over
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the past several days. Newly released disclosure files and government
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documents have once again reignited questions about what officials may
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have known for decades regarding unidentified aerial phenomenon, recovered materials,
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and encounters the public was never meant to fully understand.
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Researchers are pouring over the documents tonight. Some claim the
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files contained overlooked references to non human intelligence, unusual biological descriptions,
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and reports from military witnesses whose testimonies were buried for
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years behind classifications and redactions. And while skeptics continue to
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demand harder proof, others are asking very different questions. If
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even a fraction of these reports are true, then how
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long has the truth really been sitting just beneath the surface.
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Because tonight's guest represents one of the most controversial and
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unsettling cases ever to emerge from the shadows of UFO history.
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The case involving an encounter in the wilderness, a creature
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not of this world, an event captured at least in
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part on video. Our guest, doctor Jonathan Reed, has a
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story that doesn't just challenge what we think we know,
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it tears right through it. But that's only the beginning,
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because what followed may be even more disturbing. Found artifacts,
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strange technologies, and a body of an extraterrestrial being that
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may not have vanished into myth at all. Tonight we
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ask the questions others won't We examine the evidence. We
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confront the gaps, the contradictions, and the possibilities. So dim
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the lights, turn up your volume, and keep your eyes
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on the shadows, because once you step into this story,
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you may never look at the woods the same again.
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I get so last.
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From the Ozark Foothills of northeast Arkansas. Here is Carl
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Richardson on Midnight Frequency Radio.
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Here, I am, indeed, and I have with me guests
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Doctor Jonathan Reid and doctor J from Doctor J Radio.
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Good evening, Hello and thank you for having us.
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Welcome.
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Thank you, Thank you both, Thank you both for inviting.
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Me with you.
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I guess we'll get right to the questions. Since some
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of the listeners may not be familiar with the case.
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Doctor Reid, can you take us back to the day
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that the incident happened? Where were you and what led
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you into the woods?
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Sure, I'll briefly give you a recap. In October fifteenth
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of nineteen ninety six, I lived in Seattle, Washington worked
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at basically a large facility, a large medical facility adjacent
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to the University of Washington called University Washington Medical Center.
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I was a developmental psychiatric position, working exclusively with kids,
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and a job that I loved. I had gone to
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several different universities, graduating with several different degrees, and I'm
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essentially in nineteen ninety six having worked for over fifteen years.
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I loved my job. I had the American dream as
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far as I was concerned, and everything seemed to be
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good in my life. Well, on this day, I took
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my dog, Susie, a Golden Retriever who was literally my
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companion night and day. She loved to interact with other people.
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I took her to work with me. She loved patience.
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On this day, we got in my jeep in mid
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morning and headed to the mountains where we had been before,
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where there was a logging trail, an old woods logging
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trail that had overgrown but provided a great place to
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let your dog off the leash and run and have fun.
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And being that this was early October. It was still
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warm in the sunshine, and the leaves were turning to golden,
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and so we were out walking in a place that
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we had been to many times before, seeing deer and
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raccoons and squirrels and wildlife that saturated this area. This
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was in the upper part of the Cascade Mountains near
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Snowqualmie Pass, so it was frequented by many people, but
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at this time of the year less less people, so
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it may have been one of the last times we
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could go before the snow in this area. Snow is
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between eight to ten feet each year, which makes this
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unaccessible for about three to four months. So we enjoyed
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being there. We enjoyed running off the leaf, letting Susie
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be in the natural state. Being just a crazy dog
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as she was. She'd love to run and bark and
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play and run back and very obedient, very gentle animal,
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well trained, and just just a delight to have. Anyway,
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on this day we were we parked, my jeep, got out,
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started walking and walked for about an hour to the
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location where she took off running, which wasn't uncommon, and
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started barking and chasing something. I didn't know what I
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couldn't see her. There's a lot of underbrush, a lot
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of hills and valleys, but this wasn't unusual, and she'd
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come running back happily after treeing whatever she was running after,
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whatever it could be. But on this occasion, her barking
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started to change. And if you know your dog's voice
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and your accustomed to them, you understand the difference between
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playful barking and aggressive sounding barking. And this started to
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sound aggressive, like she was in a conflict, possibly with
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a wildcat or a small beer, which frequent this area
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all the time. So I quickly tried to locate her,
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called her name several times she didn't come, which was
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very unusual. I set my daypack down on the ground
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and picked up a broken tree branch which was about
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five feet long and about the size of a large
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baseball bat. And I did that because I thought I
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might have to untangle her if she was in amongst
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some other wild creature, just to separate her from this situation.
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But again I still couldn't see her yet because the underbrush,
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and I kept calling her name and hearing her barking,
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which at this point became very very aware that she
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was in some kind of trouble, which was unusual because
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she normally wouldn't be aggressive at all. But I could
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hear her starting to yelp, as if she was caught
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in a situation she couldn't get out of. So I
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ran for the sound. I ran toward the sound, trying
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to figure out where she was. And I ran up
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this hill and I jumped down through the underbrush. And
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as I did this, I landed within I would say
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four to five feet confronted with this creature, this small.
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It was dark because of the overhead canopy, and this
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was mid afternoon. I couldn't clearly see what it was
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because it was moving so fast. It was a blur.
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It was moving like a paint shaker, shaking back and forth.
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And then I realized what I was looking at is
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this creature was throwing my dog over its head, back
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and forth, back and forth, numerous times, so fast that
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I could not clearly see it other than this blur.
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I ran forward. As I ran forward, this thing started
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to kill my dog, tearing at her throat in her head,
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literally ripping it apart. It was a terrible, terrible thing
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to see. I went into a rage. I grabbed the
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branch that I had in my hands, and I swung
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it as hard as I could, trying to stop this action,
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and I hit the creature in the head, in the back,
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the side of its head, splitting its head open, knocking
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it to the ground. Instantly, the scene totally came to
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a stop. There was no sound, There was no sound
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of the air or any of the things that happened
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in the forest normally. And I fell to the ground
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two not three feet next to this creature that was
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bleeding profusely on the ground. I was sick. I was
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violently sick at this moment, as if something had hit
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me at the same exact moment, but I was I
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had no bowel control, I had no bladder control. I
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was throwing up. I was gasping for air, and I
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couldn't understand why this was happening. I could barely move
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off the ground. I was on my stomach on the ground,
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unable to get up. My muscle tone was gone, and
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I didn't know what was happening. I was afraid. I
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was afraid that I was going to die because of
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this feeling. So this is how it first started. This
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is how this event first started. And in the reality
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of it. I sat there for a long time before
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I could even get up, and I thought something had
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impacted me as well, because it felt like almost like
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radiation sickness if anybody knows what that is, but profoundly
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nauseated and uncontrolling of any muscle control, or the reality
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of being just out of sorts to an extreme. That's
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what I initially went through.
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So the physical effects were caused by an external force more.
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Or less well, and at the time, Carl, I didn't
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know what that was because this happened so quickly. I
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mean from the time that I saw first saw my
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dog in conflict with this creature until it was on
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the ground, what I assume did was within ten to
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twelve seconds, so it all happened extremely fast. And then
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when this wave came over me that knocked me down too. Again,
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I had no idea what was happening. My reality was gone,
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and at this moment I was just in peril, thinking
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that I wasn't going to survive.
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When you finally gained your composure, and I'm sure that
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took a while from if I witness one of my
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pets experience a death like that and then encountered the being,
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I would just i'd probably be in a sheer panic.
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Well, I'm sure that that's what happened. I'm sure I
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somewhat went into shock, and the only thing I could
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think of was stopping the action. Now, I didn't this
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was not premeditated. I didn't think, oh, I'm going to
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knock something apart or kill something. I'm basically not a
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violent person. But this action that I witnessed made me
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feel like I had to try to do something, so
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I in some respects people say, oh, well, how could
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you do this thinking it was a sentient being. Well,
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I didn't think it was a sentient being at the moment.
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I thought it was an animal. I thought it was
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a terribly crazed animal that just ripped my dog apart,
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and my dog fell to the ground, not as a
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normal solid but as an ash, as a white powdery ash,
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like something out of your fireplace. I mean, all of
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this made no sense to me. It had thrown my life,
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my paradigm out the window, none of what I pre conceived.
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And doctor j you can add in here the reality
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was gone. My reality was totally gone. So I didn't
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know what to think, Doctor Day.
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When you actually touched Freddy with the log or or
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the branch. I'm assuming that probably some of the physical
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effects that you felt, the nausea and all that stuff,
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was probably telepathic communication. Would you agree with that.
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Well, that's a possibility. I mean, that's something that years later,
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you know, I've had a chance to think through with
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other people, and that is a possibility. But it's also
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a possibility that there was another factor going on in
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this arena, in this area, And after I had some
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time to come to some sense of where I could
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sit up, where I could slow my breathing down, I
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realized there was something else in this area making a sound,
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making a low harmonic tone throughout the forest, and it's
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the only other sound I could hear. And I stood
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up and would fall down, and I would crawl along
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the ground seeing if I could see something, hoping that
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it was another hiker, hoping that somebody else was there
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who could help me. And there was no one else.
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But what I saw through the underbrush, through the trees
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was this black object, which I call the obelisk. It
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was a black wedge shape about twelve feet long, three
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feet wide and two feet high. And the thing about it,
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it was making this harmonic tone, and it was so
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loud that it felt like it was almost inside of you,
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like it was almost touching your backbone.
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It was so the detail, of course, that it wasn't
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touching the ground either. This thing was a couple feet
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off the ground correct.
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That's right. When I finally was able to walk toward it,
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I slipped my footing and kind of fell part way
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against it, and then I realized that it was in
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fact three feet off the ground. It wasn't floating, it
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wasn't moving, but it was definitely suspended off of the
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ground landing year no wheels, no pods, no, no nothing.
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It was just anchored to the air. It was making
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this noise, this tone, and when I touched it, the
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tone changed from this kind of a dark sound to
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a lighter tone like it it was responsive to me,
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and I almost felt like it absorbed me for a
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second and then threw me back out that I don't
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know if it really happened or not, but that's what
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I felt like. But again, I was still sick. I
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was sick for days because of what this did to me.
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All I can say is it was traumatic. Was extremely traumatic,
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not only because none of this made any sense to
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me in reality, but also the trauma that was inflicted
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on me seeing my dog killed like curl suggest that
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this is like a member of your family being torn
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apart in front of you, and not just that.
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For everybody listening to this podcast right now, remember this
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is all on video. You can actually hear doctor Reed.
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I mean struggling for air clearly, and distress and suffering,
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and it's all there. You could see Freddie on the ground.
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You could see the craft off the ground. So I
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just want to throw that out there if anyone's trying
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to visualize in their in their head, after this interview
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is over, you'll have a chance to see it.
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Yeah, there's video video available on YouTube. Still, so let
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me in the.
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Video start us. I start playing all the video. But yeah,
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it is available all over the internet.
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People people ask me, They said, well, how did you
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come to the reality of being calm enough to take
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pictures or take a video. Well, it was a matter
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of circumstance. I was laying on the ground. I needed
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to get some water to try to drink, to try
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to calm down. The water was in my daypack, my backpack,
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so I crawled back to where I had taken that
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off ten or twelve feet beyond where I was laying
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on the ground, opened the pack, took out my cameras
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to get to my water, drank the water. Sat there
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for twenty or thirty minutes, trying to calm down, trying
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to console my mind in what all had happened, which,
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like I said, there was no reality to it. I
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couldn't find anything that made any sense, and my mind
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was just spinning. And as I started to calm down,
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I realized, oh, my cameras, because I had just reached
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in taken them out to get to the water, and
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I had my camera in my hand, and I thought, well,
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I can take a picture of this body on the ground.
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I could take a picture of this because and my
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mind started to spin out of control, thinking well, maybe
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it's not even here, maybe none of this is real,
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so I'll take a picture and maybe nothing will come out.
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I don't know. Now, this was in the day prior
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to digital photography. This was film photography. I had a
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thirty five millimeter film camera with negative film and positive film.
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I had a small one of the very first small
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camcorders that was non digital, and I thought, well, I
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can take a picture of this, and in seeing this
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black floating shape again, which defied everything I knew about
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reality and circumstance, I thought, okay, well I'll try to
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take a picture of this, and chances are it won't
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be there, because maybe my mind is just out of control,
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maybe none of this is real. So I took my
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camcorder out. I took some film of it, of the
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body land on the ground of the forest, of this
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black shape actually covering three feet off the ground, and
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there was distortion in the video. The closer I would
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get to this black shape, the more the camcorder would distort.
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So I moved back further so there was less distortion.
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This camcorder had a viewfinder about a quarter of an
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inch square in black and white. So I was literally
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holding the camera pointing it in the right direction, hoping
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I would get it. Because again I was so sick,
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I was throwing up, I was gasping for breath. I
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didn't know what was going on. I would fall over.
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This was not a gentle circumstance, and I was hoping
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that something would come out, and later I found out
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that it did. It did come out. This is the
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video that I took, which is available for people to see.
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It's out there. I've never charged anything for this. I've
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never tried to, you know, make it commercial. I think
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it's something everybody needs to know. Everybody needs to see
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that this kind of thing really does happen, that it
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wasn't an illusion. And I know there's a lot of
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people out there that have made statements about my case,
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about my circumstances, who have tried to say, oh, it's
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all folks, that this man isn't a doctor, that they
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never went to medical school, that all of the circumstances
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were lies and fabrications. Well, let me tell you before this,
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before any of this happened, there was no negativity about
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my life, about what I had done, about graduating from
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San Diego State, UCLA and the University of Washington. I
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had good scholastic merits. I had graduated with basically a
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three point eight average, and people had gone to my
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graduation ceremony. I have interviewed counselors and professors who taught
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me at these different schools. I have that information and
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that documentation. Because people started to denounce my life, they
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started to spread these rumors, and the only reason I
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could figure that out. Was because when I first came
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out and went public, I showed everybody what I had.
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I posted it everywhere I could, and I mean, this
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is hard physical evidence, forth clear photographs, not dark, not fuzzy,
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not lights in the sky. This is the body in
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front of you.
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Well, these these photographs and stuff have also been analyzed
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by Kodak that they haven't been altered in any way.
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You said the case also, Yeah.
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Thank you for bringing that up, Carl. I was going
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to jump that in. So yeah, I'll let you guys
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talk about that because that's such an important point. While
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you're on the thirty five millimeters. Well and the video
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as well.
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That's six.
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And when I first went public, I didn't know what
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to do how to do it, and I had a
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guy who was an author and a writer helped me
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document this case, how to put it together, how to
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actually tell people about this story because it was so
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complex and I was not a writer, so I needed help.
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So this man, Robert Raith, came up from California and
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got an apartment and lived in Seattle where I was
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able to come back and live with him, and he
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could extract this information from me. The book that we
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ended up writing called Link and Extraterrestrial Odyssey is still
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available on Amazon Kindle people can still get it. It's
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a step by step walk through my shoes and what
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I experienced in the order that I experienced in it,
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in some ways is the best example of how stressed
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and how distracted I was, and how people tried to
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say none of this was real and that none of
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it actually happened. Well, there was an active force of
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government agents trying to destroy my life, my credibility, actually
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destroyed my career to the point where I can't get licensed,
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I can't get refacilitated in a hospital. They've destroyed my
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credibility and my ability to work. I mean, they couldn't
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destroy the evidence, but they could destroy my credibility, and
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that's all they could do.
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The government's operandi seems to follow that anyway. Look at
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Bob Bazaar and Betty and Barney Heel absolutely.
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I mean, this is this is nothing new, but the
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extreme that they went to. If people try to find
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my name out there in the Internet, the first thing
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that comes up is all this negative bs.
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Something about that. Obviously there's some that is concerned effort
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to debunk you, but there's also people that just don't
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pay attention to the evidence. I'll give you an example.
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The first time I heard about this case was the
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UFO magazine in the late nineties, and even they had
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it wrong. They mentioned that the alien was shot and killed. Okay,
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people don't look at the evidence, and they just assume
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that they know about the case, and because they read
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that it's you know, crap, that's what they jump on.
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But they don't. This is the probably the most overlooked
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case that has the most amount of evidence than any
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other case that as a lawyer, I'm gonna trained lawyer
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that I would take to a court any day over
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any other case.
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Well, as you know, John, and you've done a substantial
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amount of research into me and my background and the case.
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I tried to do everything that I could do to
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show people exactly what happened and what I went through.
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If people choose not to believe it, if they choose
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to believe that it's only a hoax, that's up to them.
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But if you open your mind a little bit further
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and see what actually has been has yielded from all
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of the evidence, it's an amazing amount of evidence. I
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even took two lie detectors, two polygraph examinations which I
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passed both of at law enforcement people who administered the test.
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This was things that were done above and beyond my
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own personality, my own circumstances. The area was tested, the
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forest area was tested for bark and dirt and samples
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from the arena where this took place. They found exclusive
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amounts of a radiation that is never there naturally, a
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certain kind of radiation that was permeated into this area.
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These tests were done by forensic examination where I didn't
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have any control of the outcome. After going on art
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Bell several times art Bell Radio and giving interviews about
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what had happened and what substantiated, finally there was the
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availability of graphics on the Internet where I could post
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a lot of my photographs, a lot of the video,
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so I got it out as far as I could.
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Because of that, I was invited by several other people,
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including a journalist in Mexico, Jimi Massan, who basically wanted
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to interview me on television and brought me to Mexico
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and put me and my teams on television. Did an
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interview that was international that aired initially eleven times in
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twenty six countries. It was both in English and in Spanish.
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They took the evidence that they could, extracted it and
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verified it that it was legitimate, that nothing had been
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misplaced or mishandled or misrepresented. You can only say that
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so many times where people either want to understand what
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I went through or they choose not to listen, and
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that's totally up to each individual. I always say one thing,
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if I had not have personally witnessed and experienced what
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I did with this creature and what took place in
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the aftermath, I wouldn't believe it either, because it's so bizarre,
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it's so unbelievable. I understand when people have difficulty believing it,
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because for a long time I didn't want to believe
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it either. I actually kept telling myself this just could
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not have happened this way. But it did, and what
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happened afterwards was ongoing. What I haven't said is after
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what I thought killing this creature, and I say, his
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head was split open with a two inch hole all
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the way down to his brain where it broke the skin,
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the sinew, and the bone, exposing his inner cranial material.
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I thought he was dead, and I took that body,
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wrapped it up and was going to hide it somewhere
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where I could later bring back somebody else, someone and
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other people to help me to deal with to understand it.
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But I couldn't find a place to put it, so
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I just wrapped it up in a thermal blanket that
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I had an emergency thermal blanket because I didn't want
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to touch it. It was a mess, it was covered
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in blood. I just didn't want to touch it. So
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I put the thermal blanket around it and wrapped it
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up like you would roll up a sleeping bag, tied
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my straps from my pack around it, and started to
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carry it back toward where my jeep was parked.
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What one minor detail you forgot about, John, You grabbed
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something that was with the body that you brought and
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I'm assuming was in your backpack on the way to
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the car. Right, Can you talk about that?
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Laying laying next to the body was a silver cuff
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like about the size of a big Coca Cola can,
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and it looked bent was it had an angle to it.
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It was silver, And when I saw it the under
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the brush right next to the body, I actually first
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thought that it was I know in some respects it
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doesn't make sense. But my mind said, oh, it's silver,
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it's bent, and it reminded me of a Coca Cola can.
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But I picked it up and it wasn't. It was
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some other piece of metal that had symbols on it.
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There were some black raised symbols across it, and that
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that made no sense to me. But I just put
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it in with the body. As I rolled it up,
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and I thought, okay, I'll bring that back. I'll bring
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that back to where it can be stored. And I
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kept looking for a place to put this bundle.
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I have a picture of the I believe you call
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it a link device.
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Yes, I have a link artifact.
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Artifact.
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I have a picture of that up on a live
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stream so viewers can be it all.
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And for people. I mean, this story is ongoing. After
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I came home, after I drove up into my car port,
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I realized my dog was not there where she always
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said was sitting next to me, and in the rearview
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mirror I could see the thermal blanket where I had
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lifted this thing into the back of the sheet and
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closed the door. And now I was home and I
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was thinking, what am I going to do with this body.
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It's dead, it's going to start decomposing. And I thought,
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I don't I don't want to bury it. I don't
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want it in my house. I don't, you know. I thought, Okay,
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I opened my garage. I opened the garage and there
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was my freezer, a small chest freezer, and I thought, okay,
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it's dead meat. If I freeze it, it'll stop decomposing.
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So what I did is I lifted the basket that
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had some frozen food in it, lifted that out, and
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just set the entire wrapped body into the freezer and
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closed the door and went in the house. I didn't
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want to deal with it. I didn't want to think
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about it. It was insanity to me. And I was
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so sick and so messed up at the time. I
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just wanted to go. And I stood in the shower
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with all my clothes on because I was a mess.
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I was just covered in sickness, and so I stood
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in the shower for I don't know how long, and
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just peeled off the layer to my clothes and cleaned
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up the best I could. And nobody was there. I
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was alone. I made some phone calls. I called my girlfriend.
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She wasn't home. I called my best friend Gary. I
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said he wasn't home either. This was in the day
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and age of answering machines, this was prior to cell
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phones books nineteen ninety six. So I left messages. I said,
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call me my dog Susie is dead. I made your help.
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Come over, please help me. I'm really sick. And that's
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how it started. That's how this all started. My friend
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Gary came over. We talked. Of course, he didn't believe
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the story, but I had the videotape and I took
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it out of the camera and played it into my
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television and there it was clear as day. The black craft,
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the woods, the body laying on the ground with blood,
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it was. It was all there to see. Unbelievable as
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it was there it was, and he still felt I
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was spinning out of control. My mind was just going crazy.
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And I finally said, come with me, Come with me
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to my garage, and I said, you'll see, and he
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walked behind me to my garage. I opened the freezer,
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took out the body, laid it on the floor of
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the garage at that time, and showed him what this was.
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And he was just uncontrollably dazed, as if he'd seen
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a ghost. His attitude changed. He kept saying, oh my god,
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Oh my god, what is this? What have you done?
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What have you found? And I said, this is what happened.
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This is all I can say. I don't know what
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it is. I don't know what happened. And he started
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to say he thought he knew what this was. And
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I said, I don't want to think about that. I
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don't want to I don't want it closer to me
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in my mind. And he said, well, this has got
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to be some kind of alien, you know. And I
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said I don't want to think about that. I don't
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want to know that. But he was sure, and he
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said he'd read about these kind of things. And for
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the next few days that's what we did. We talked
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about what do we do, who do we talk to,
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who do we confide in? Who can we take this
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body too? I mean I thought about taking it to
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the university in the biology department and letting them dissect it.
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I thought of all of these things, and within the
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next seventy two hours, we started the process of finding
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out who to talk to and who we could confide in,
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and who would understand these circumstances, and it was a
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living nightmare to try to deal with this.
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At some point, the creature you found out wasn't actually deceased.
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I had been taking the body out of the freezer,
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unwrapping it and showing it to colleagues, to my family members.
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I had done this many, many times, and on the
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third day I had made arrangements to have another professor
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come and look at what I had found. Somebody I
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knew well, somebody who had known me for years in
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the hospital, somebody I trusted. Because I needed help. I
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didn't understand any of this, and I wanted other people's opinion.
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I figured out if I could bring other people into this,
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they could help me find some reality to this nightmare.
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So he had called earlier, said he'd be over at
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a certain time. I went out to the garage and
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set up a table, a portable table to lay the
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body on, with a big light over it, and all
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of a sudden he called and canceled. He said, Jonathan,
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I cannot be there. I don't know that you should
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be doing this. Maybe this is going to, you know,
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disrupt your life, but I don't want it to disrupt mine.
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He was angry, on the phone, and this made no
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sense to me. Why would he be doing this, This
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was not like him to do this. So after the
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phone call, I went out to the garage put away
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the table and the light, and as I was doing that,
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I heard this sound in the garage, this scratching or
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rubbing sound, and I thought, could rats have gotten in
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my garage? This was an older freezer. Was the compressor
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going out on the freezer? I didn't know. So the
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only way I could identify that is I thought, well,
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there's a thermometer right inside the door as you open
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the top of the freezer, and if the temperature is rising,
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then I know the compressor is going out. That's probably
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a sound I'm hearing. So I raised the lid, and
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as I raised the lid, this thing, this creature sat
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up out of the middle of the thermo blanket with
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his head right in front of me, screaming so loud
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that it pushed me back. It actually physically forced me
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back in the garage to the wall, and this terrible,
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terrible dynamic scream and self defense. Yes I'm sure, anger,
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Yes I'm sure. And the only thing I thought of
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is it's going to kill me. Next that'll be the
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next thing it's going to attack, jump out of here
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and attack me. So I ran into my house. My
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garage was separated by a yard. I ran through the yard,
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ran into my house, slammed the door, and just panting,
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just being scared to death that this thing was going
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to come and kill me because I tried to kill it.
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I thought it was dead, and now it's not dead.
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Now it's just angry and screaming. This was insanity to me.
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I called my friend Gary, I said, we have a
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bigger problem, and he came over and I took him out,
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and I went into the garage timidly because thinking hoping
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that maybe this thing had run away, and no, it
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was in the freezer. The lid was closed, and I
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opened the freezer with a broom handle, and as I did,
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it sat up and started screaming at both of us, again,
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pinning us almost physically to the wall inside the garage.
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We ran out of there. We didn't close the freezer,
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I didn't close the door to the garage, ran in
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the house, slammed the door, and sat there in my
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kitchen for a long time without saying anything, looking each
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other like both of us were out of our minds.
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But nevertheless, this really happened. This happened exactly like that.
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And so we sat, go ahead, Carl, I have.
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A copy of the recording.
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Well you do.
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I need to go into a break and as soon
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as we come back, I will play that and you
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can give your thoughts.
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That's fine, that's fine. Like I said, it was a
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nightmare from hell.
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It was definitely that. And I'd be like you, I'd
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just be totally sick. We'll take the break in, We'll
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be right back.
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This is Dark Matter News. I'm Joshua Stark. Scientists say
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cocaine pollution in rivers and lakes may be altering the
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behavior of wild salmon. A new study published in the
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journal Current Biology found that young Atlantic salmon exposed to
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trace amounts of cocaine and its chemical byproducts become far
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more active and traveled much greater distances than normal fish.
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Researchers from Sweden and Australia tracked more than one hundred
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salmon in Sweden's Lake Vitern over a an eight week period.
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Some fish were exposed to environmentally realistic levels of cocaine,
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while others were exposed to benzogonine, the primary chemical left
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behind after the human body metabolizes cocaine. The findings surprise scientists.
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Salmon exposed to the substances swam nearly twice as far
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each week compared to unaffected fish. Fish exposed to the
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cocaine byproduct, traveled the farthest, dispersing more than thirty kilometers
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from where they were released. Scientists say wastewater treatment plants
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are not equipped to completely remove many pharmaceutical and illegal
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drug compounds from sewage. As a result, traces of these
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chemicals are entering rivers, lakes, and coastal waters around the world.
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Researchers warned that changes in examin behavior could have serious
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ecological consequences. Increased roaming may affect migration patterns, feeding habits,
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predator avoidance, and reproduction, potentially disrupting fragile aquatic ecosystems. Catch
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up with us at darkmatternews dot com.
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The Bible describes men's thoughts in the last days as
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deeply corrupted, selfish, and rebellious against God, marked by perilous times.
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In reverse speech, the fulfillment of Prophecy, David John Oates
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goes beyond psychology and linguistics to ask a deeper question,
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did scripture anticipate a time when hidden words would be revealed?
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Drawing from the Bible, the Gospels, revelation, and ancient spiritual traditions,
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this book examines recurring themes long overlooked, the voice of
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the heart, words that testify against us, US secrets proclaimed
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from the housetops, sealed books opened at the appointed time,
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and the two edged sword that proceeds from the mouth.
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David Oates argues that these are not merely poetic metaphors,
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but descriptions of a revelatory process now made visible through
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modern technology. Reverse Speech Fulfillment of Prophecy now available at
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Amazon dot com Get your copy today.
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NASA is preparing for one of the biggest shakeups in
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the agency's modern history. Officials have unveiled a sweeping reorganization
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plan aimed at streamlining operations, cutting costs, and reshaping how
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NASA handles space missions, human spaceflight, and future exploration programs.
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The restructuring comes as the agency faces new mounting budget
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pressure and growing concern over rising mission costs. Under the
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new plan, several divisions are expected to be consolidated and
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management layers reduced and some long running programs reevaluated or
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scaled back. NASA leaders say the changes are designed to
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make the agency more efficient and better positioned for future
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missions to the Moon and Mars. This is Dark Matter News.
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NASA's Artemis two astronauts are being praised for keeping their
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composure after a confrontation with a moon landing conspiracy theorist
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on Capitol Hill. During the encounter of Man shouted accusations
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that the crew never went to space and claimed the
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mission was fake. Instead of reacting angrily, the astronauts calmly
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walked away, with pilot Victor Glover offering a polite wave
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and simply saying take care. The moment immediately drew comparisons
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to a famous incident involving Apollo eleven asternaut Buzz Aldrin.
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Back in two thousand and two, Aldron was confronted by
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conspiracy theorist Bart Sebral, who aggressively accused him of lying
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about walking on the Moon. After repeated harassment and insults,
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the then seventy two year old astronaut punched Sebral in
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the face. No charges wherever filed. The Artemis two mission
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marked humanity's first crew journey beyond Earth. Orbit since Apollo
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seventeen in nineteen seventy two. The mission's flight around the
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Moon was live streamed and heavily documented, but conspiracy theories
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surrounding space travel continue to spread online despite decades of
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scientific evidence supporting both the Apollo and Artemis programs. NASA
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supporters say the astronaut's calm response shows how the agency
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is handling public scrutiny differently in a new era of
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lunar exploration. With future Artemist missions expected to land astronauts
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on the Moon later this decade, aid NASA hopes to
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keep public focus on science exploration and the long term
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goal of sending humans to Mark. Catch up with Dark
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Matter News on Facebook and Darkmatternews dot com From Memphis, Tennessee.
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I'm Joshua s.
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Dark coming to you at the speed of light in
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the darkness. This is Midnight Frequency Radio with Carl Richardson.
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Now here's Carl.
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Welcome back to the show.
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Thank you for having.
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Us, and yes, of course for having me too.
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Like I was saying, I have a copy of the
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recording and I'd like to play it for the listeners
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and hope it plays right, because you know how this
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stuff goes. It works in rehearsal, but never on the
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real show. So let me try it out here once again.
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I will hold on. Okay, here it comes.
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O, my god, awf art.
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All right, I hope that played.
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I've got it did, but the volume was like zero.
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Well for us probably, it's probably louder for them.
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Okay, yeah, I didn't have it run to the studio
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monitor for feedback reasons.
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So anyway, it's extremely unnerving the sound that it made.
722
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:27.840
Now finally quit making the sound.
723
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:31.519
But and like Art said on his show, God that's awful.
724
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:35.360
Yeah, yeah.
725
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:40.039
Did you do any DNA analysis on the alien or
726
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:40.719
at any point?
727
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:44.800
Yes, Well, while I assumed he was dead and I
728
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.960
was taking him in and out of the freezer to
729
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:55.360
shore colleagues and friends and family members, I decided that
730
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:58.400
I would go ahead, since there was a gaping wound
731
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:02.760
in his head, that I I would extract some tissue
732
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:06.599
and some blood samples and go ahead and take it
733
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:11.599
and have it analyzed. And I had access to one
734
00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:17.159
of the best pathologists in the country, who was somebody
735
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:19.800
I had had lunch with several times who worked in
736
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:23.320
the same building that I did at the University Medical Center.
737
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.360
So I made a phone call to him and I said,
738
00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:30.280
I have some tissue and blood samples that I would
739
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:33.199
like to have you analyze. Would that be possible? She
740
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:36.719
said sure. He said it'll take about a week. Now,
741
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:41.079
you have to remember this was in nineteen ninety six.
742
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:46.239
This was before they had chrome zone testing in computers,
743
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:48.360
so all of this had to be done by hand.
744
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.400
So they took the samples. I took them to him.
745
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:57.559
I had stored them in a freezer, keeping them the
746
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:05.199
sterile and a content as possible without disturbing the properties
747
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:09.239
of the science. I took them to him. He took
748
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:13.079
them to his lab and again it took about a week,
749
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:17.880
and he called me up and he said, Jonathan, would
750
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:21.159
you come into my office please? We need to talk
751
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:27.000
talk And I said sure, and so I went in
752
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:31.800
and tired. He said, what is this? Where did you
753
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:37.400
get this material? And I said, well, I got it
754
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.880
in the woods, in the forest. And I didn't tell
755
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:44.119
him that I had the body. I didn't tell him
756
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:47.719
what it was or what I thought it was. I
757
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:52.159
wanted him to tell me what his analysis would come
758
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:55.760
up with. And he said, look, I'm going to tell
759
00:57:55.800 --> 00:58:00.960
you something. None of this makes sense to me, He says,
760
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:07.000
because we did a chromosome study on it and it
761
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:11.880
came up with forty six chromosomes exactly like humans have,
762
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:17.960
but nine of the pair were different, were absolutely not human.
763
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:21.840
And he said, the closest reference we could come up
764
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:25.360
with in looking at all of the database that we
765
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:30.440
have in the United States, the closest reference was sea
766
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:35.000
tortoise and dolphin that were part of these nine pair.
767
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:39.800
He said, some of the blood analysis was so different.
768
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:47.320
There was no it was nucleated blood cells and the
769
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:51.079
white cells were extremely different. There was a high concentration
770
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:56.920
of copper in the blood, which is not characteristic of
771
00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:01.440
any other creature that we could find. And he said,
772
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:07.519
it's a totally different structure, different matrix structure. He had
773
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:12.679
done the analysis, he kicked out all of the well,
774
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:16.760
let's just say the statistics on paper of their analysis,
775
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:19.840
and they're only finding things that they could come up
776
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:25.280
with that it was a completely new specie that they'd
777
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:29.159
never seen before, that there was no reference to ever before.
778
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:33.000
And he said, Johnathan, he said, I'm going to publish
779
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:37.199
this because it's an important find. But he said, again,
780
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:40.119
I'm going to ask you, where did you come up
781
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:45.000
with these samples because it's like no other that he'd
782
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:48.840
ever seen. And he said, you can't manufacture this. You
783
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:53.119
can't mix the blood or mix the tissue samples to
784
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:57.679
assume you're going to create something new. It doesn't work
785
00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:01.320
like that. And in those days, we didn't have crisper
786
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:06.320
or we didn't have any of the scientific ability to
787
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:10.920
get into the DNA and into the chromosoone structure. We
788
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:16.519
didn't have that in nineteen ninety six. And I said, well,
789
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:19.639
I found this in the forest. It was part of
790
01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:27.079
a part of the creature that I had come across.
791
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:32.199
And he said, well, he said, it's like nothing that
792
01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:35.599
I've ever seen before. And he said, you have to
793
01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:39.519
let me publish this, and so I said, yes, absolutely,
794
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:44.559
you may publish this. And he was an accredited pathologist,
795
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:50.239
I mean actually world famous doctor, Roger Hagett was his name.
796
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:56.360
And three days after, actually two days after he had
797
01:00:56.400 --> 01:01:00.679
shown me this material, I got a call from his
798
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:07.639
secretary who informed me that somebody had come into their office,
799
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:12.519
where Roger's office was on a different floor from where
800
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:20.199
I worked, same building, come in and killed Roger, shot
801
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:22.519
him in the head and then killed himself.
802
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:26.599
Oh my god, then, and that's not the only person,
803
01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:30.280
as you'll get to later, that were affected by this case. Unfortunately.
804
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:34.920
Well, and then the secretary said, and then within ten
805
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:38.840
minutes of after this event had happened, he said, all
806
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:47.480
these all these military like police came in and confiscated
807
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:53.360
his computer, all his files, his physical paper files, and
808
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:56.800
everything he had. In fact, they had even gone to
809
01:01:56.920 --> 01:02:01.840
his house and confiscated things of his and his wife's,
810
01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:10.280
taking all evidence there was that he ever had these samples. Now,
811
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:16.599
there were other people involved, and other people were also murdered,
812
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:23.320
and I'm using the term murdered to restrict the ability
813
01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:31.280
to have knowledge to expose this information. Other technicians.
814
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:33.960
My listener said that that audio didn't come through. I'm
815
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:35.639
going to replay it. I've set it up in a
816
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:36.519
different format.
817
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:44.159
Okay, But anyway, this was a perfect example of how government,
818
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:50.239
and I use that term loosely, how dark agents tried
819
01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:56.639
to cover all of this up immediately by even murdering suspects.
820
01:02:57.119 --> 01:03:00.960
And this is not an illusion, this is not a hoax.
821
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:05.360
You can look these people up, you know, in records,
822
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:10.239
and see that doctor Roger Hagett was killed in his office.
823
01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:14.000
The government knows no bounds on what they'll do.
824
01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:17.840
I don't, don't, And for thirty years I've been dealing
825
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:21.960
with this, with all of the negativity, all of the propaganda,
826
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:26.360
the saturation of negative information.
827
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:30.679
This your own assassination attempts. Don't forget that.
828
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:33.800
That's a huge one, right, I mean even you know,
829
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:36.760
a couple of weeks ago, I was shot at again
830
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:41.880
while we were getting out of a car where I
831
01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:47.719
happened to be staying. And I mean, this is reality,
832
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:50.760
this is my reality. Do I think they want to
833
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:54.280
kill me. I can't believe that, because that would make
834
01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:57.599
me a martyr. I think they want to silence me.
835
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:01.639
I think they want to scare me, which is the
836
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:09.400
constant process of doing everything they can do to manufacture
837
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:15.719
events and circumstances to get me to stop talking. Look,
838
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:20.119
I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. I'm trying
839
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:25.000
to tell you what happened to me, trying to explain
840
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:30.679
the circumstances and the events that happened around my life
841
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:40.920
and my situation with this creature who later on revived,
842
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:47.119
came back, and I have since created a relationship with it.
843
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:52.159
I know, as strange as that sounds, it was presented
844
01:04:52.199 --> 01:04:55.960
to me. It was an opportunity, and I felt like
845
01:04:56.280 --> 01:05:02.599
it was necessary to understand what was going on with
846
01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:08.840
this creature and with our lives. Why are we being visited?
847
01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:16.000
Why is this a negative? Why does government restrict information
848
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:21.119
from us? It just doesn't make sense to me. It's science,
849
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:26.679
if nothing else, And I've tried my best to give
850
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:32.719
away all the evidence to show what's happened, what continues
851
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:36.400
to happen, and that I've been in communication for thirty
852
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:41.519
years and have developed a database of information of the
853
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:48.880
life of this being that I call Freddie, and I
854
01:05:49.079 --> 01:05:52.760
believe there's a lot to be learned here. I believe
855
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:56.679
that humans have made a lot of mistakes that we
856
01:05:56.800 --> 01:06:01.679
can correct, that we can actually gain from this experience.
857
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:08.639
They are probably a million years advanced from us. He
858
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:16.039
is a hybrid human. He is basically a biological created
859
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:22.559
being that was born in our atmosphere on planet Earth
860
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:29.039
to work within our atmosphere and our environment so that
861
01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:35.440
he could survive the biology and the resistance. I mean,
862
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:41.320
We've spent millions of years growing through this learning to
863
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:45.360
survive all of the bacteria that lives and breathes in
864
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:49.280
our atmosphere. They haven't. So the only way they could
865
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:54.360
do that was to have one a hybred that it
866
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:59.280
was designed to live and work in this environment. And
867
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:00.840
that's what he is.
868
01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:04.239
All right, let me replay this audio and then there's
869
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:07.400
some other items we need to go into. Hold on,
870
01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:07.960
just say.
871
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:14.119
Sure once again, I will hold on. Okay, here it comes.
872
01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:32.960
Oh my god, awful.
873
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:36.719
Okay, it came through that time. I'm pretty sure.
874
01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:42.800
Okay, but I could hear art Yeah.
875
01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:45.679
Yeah, the earlier time it was more muscled, but I
876
01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:47.400
knew I could still hear it lower though.
877
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:49.800
Yeah.
878
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:54.639
All the original radio interviews that I did that were
879
01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:59.840
initially art Bell are still available. You can still hear them,
880
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:05.719
and you can tell you know that my life was
881
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:09.719
in turmoil, turmoil at this time. I mean, doctor j
882
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:11.320
you understand that.
883
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:15.719
Yeah, if I uh, since I was there to help
884
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:17.600
you when the filmmakers came.
885
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:21.319
There's an incident that took place when we were filming
886
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:26.399
contact in the woods and where I had been staying.
887
01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:29.640
You had come to visit me, and when you left
888
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:32.239
a few hours later, there happened to be plotters in
889
01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:35.479
your car, almost as if someone was either cutting the
890
01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:38.359
brakes or letting us know that you are being followed,
891
01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:41.479
not to mention you were followed on the way to
892
01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:42.279
see me one day.
893
01:08:43.399 --> 01:08:48.760
Yeah, this is a it's a it's a continual process
894
01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:54.760
of caression and I believe that's it's intimidation, and that's
895
01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:57.439
what's all I wanted to do the most. But I
896
01:08:57.520 --> 01:09:02.279
have to say, and this is the truth. In thirty years,
897
01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:08.159
there's been fourteen people who I consider teammates and family
898
01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:13.279
members who in one way or another, their life was
899
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:19.039
ended because of these circumstances. Some of them directly murdered,
900
01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:22.520
some of them run off the road, some of them shot.
901
01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:28.199
I mean, there's no other conclusion. It's on the record.
902
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:34.600
These people were alive well and gave a great part
903
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:38.840
of their life to help me, just to help me survive.
904
01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:45.680
And this can't be you know, covered over. It's a reality.
905
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:48.359
It's a reality I have to live with every day
906
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:50.119
of my life since it's happened.
907
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:56.039
Speaking of the people who are killed on your team,
908
01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:58.359
I think now would be a good time, Jonathan to mention,
909
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:02.199
because this is really important, who else was on the
910
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:06.199
team that Because there was a crap group of people
911
01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:09.880
that were on this team, I mean within ufology, it
912
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:12.640
had every legend you can imagine, so I think we
913
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:13.479
should talk about that.
914
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:17.159
Well. When I first came out and went public, I
915
01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:24.840
was invited to go to Laughlin, Nevada for the International
916
01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:29.760
UFO Congress, where I was introduced to some of the
917
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:34.920
greatest researchers and people in the world in the community,
918
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:38.199
people I had never known prior to this, but who
919
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:42.399
I got to know very well during this time. They
920
01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:48.159
all said as a group that they wanted research done
921
01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:52.800
on my case, called textbook research, where they could document
922
01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:56.439
all of these issues and all the items that happened.
923
01:10:57.159 --> 01:11:03.680
So they set out these people, them Wendell Stevens, Colonel
924
01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:11.960
Wendell Stevens, Donald Ware, Bob Dean, Robert Dean, Robert o'dean,
925
01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:20.760
and Dan mclvoy senior and Jimi Masson all jointly said
926
01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:26.279
that they would create a textbook case of my that
927
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:29.560
they could study, that they could find the evidence, that
928
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:33.640
they could talk to people who were involved, and after
929
01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:37.760
finding out that all of my records were destroyed, all
930
01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:42.720
of my credentials were destroyed, saying that I never went
931
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:46.680
to any university, that I never graduated, that I never
932
01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:51.680
was taught and was part of this medical school University
933
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:55.560
of Washington Medical School and the medical facility. All of
934
01:11:55.600 --> 01:12:00.640
that was erased as if I never existed, and these
935
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:07.239
people set forward, set out to prove that I did exist,
936
01:12:07.319 --> 01:12:11.000
that I did go to these colleges, these universities and
937
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:14.920
find people who knew me and realized and recognized that
938
01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:19.479
I was there going to school, working in this facility,
939
01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:24.359
and that I was a physician actively working at the time.
940
01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:30.960
And it took two years for Dan McAvoy Senior to
941
01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:34.920
walk in my shoes literally behind me everywhere I went
942
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:42.239
the United States, South America, Mexico, Japan, where I had
943
01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:48.680
the link artifact analyzed by metallurgists who basically said that
944
01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:56.319
it is a physical biological interface between biology and mechanics,
945
01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:01.840
That it was some kind of an active device, was interpowered,
946
01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:07.119
that had a pulse of radiation every seven seconds that
947
01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:12.079
they couldn't identify, That it's made of multiple layers of
948
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:18.880
metal and fiber like a plant leaf fiber that literally
949
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:24.159
had veins of active memory inside of itself. That it
950
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:29.600
is some kind of a controller and or a communication device.
951
01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:33.159
And later we found out that it has other properties,
952
01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:39.239
that it's literally a telet transport device that is workable
953
01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:46.079
that is active where I actually produced a video on
954
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:51.560
camera in a television studio with other people, with other
955
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:57.239
people witnessing it, two hundred people with witnessing what happened.
956
01:13:57.880 --> 01:14:05.079
And of course all this has been denounced and stated
957
01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:09.439
that it was faith. And I challenge anybody, Okay, if
958
01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:13.319
it's faith, make one do it. Make it. Make a
959
01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:19.920
film that has this ability where you use no special
960
01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:21.439
effects none.
961
01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:23.319
Can I say something about that real quick?
962
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:25.520
Jonathan, Yeah, everybody.
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01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:29.199
About the analysis of the film, I found the best
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01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:31.159
one to be if people are a fan of the
965
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:33.920
Wi fi is one of the biggest channels on UFOs
966
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:36.760
right now. The guy's a big skeptic and how he
967
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:39.239
ends up a lot of times on cases even I
968
01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:41.880
believe is either in the middle or he doesn't believe it.
969
01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:44.520
But when he covered Jonathan's case, which was.
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01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:47.560
Titled Alien in the Freezer and it was one of
971
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:52.279
the three segments of Arts Campfire Stories, he said, this
972
01:14:52.439 --> 01:14:55.800
case happened and without a shadow of a doubt, and
973
01:14:55.880 --> 01:15:01.079
most importantly, a doctor in nineteen ninety six, without the
974
01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:06.680
resources of a major Hollywood studios like Universal Warner Brothers
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01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:11.159
would have had to make such a dolt to look alive,
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01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:14.359
the way it was glistening, and its eyes, the way
977
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:19.119
it was breathing asymmetrically. I highly suggest anyone check that
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01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:22.239
out when this is over, because what Jonathan is saying,
979
01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:24.800
without special effects, it's beyond that.
980
01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:28.119
Even a Hollywood studio in that era would have a
981
01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:32.239
hard time making a doll to breathe in such a way,
982
01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:35.000
even if they put a motor in there, it just
983
01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:36.039
wouldn't be symetric.
984
01:15:36.399 --> 01:15:39.880
Even in a video, you can see its eyes blink, that's.
985
01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:44.720
Right, and its faithful muscles contort. Yes, people have to
986
01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:49.560
realize that this is a process, an ongoing process that
987
01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:52.800
I had to go through. This wasn't all done overnight.
988
01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:56.319
This was done over a period of years. But even
989
01:15:56.439 --> 01:15:59.600
the years that it was done over, there was not
990
01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:05.239
an availability of computer special effects at that time. The
991
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:11.800
only one doing computer special effects was Spielberg and George Lucas.
992
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.800
And I didn't know any of those people. I didn't
993
01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:19.800
know anybody from Hollywood or anything. And I was lucky
994
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:22.560
to be able to do my own email at the time.
995
01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:27.920
You know, I'm so computer illiterate. But the facts remain
996
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:34.720
is there's so many there's some much evidence that goes
997
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:38.239
along with this. In other words, if it didn't happen,
998
01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:43.279
how did I get the video? If the video is fake,
999
01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:47.159
how did I get the DNA and the chromosome study?
1000
01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:52.319
If that wasn't enough, Do you think I killed the
1001
01:16:52.399 --> 01:16:55.680
guy who did the chromosome study the guy that died,
1002
01:16:56.520 --> 01:16:59.319
I mean, is on and on and on, and I
1003
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:05.159
have that I wasn't even anywhere near this place when
1004
01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:08.279
this doctor was killed and these other people.
1005
01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:12.880
And if this was fake, would you have an extraterrestrial
1006
01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:17.760
artifact where the metal has been analyzed and shows metals
1007
01:17:18.119 --> 01:17:21.960
not from this Earth, unidentifiable and the ones that are
1008
01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:25.000
cannot even be made in the combinations they are, or
1009
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:30.239
the purities they are in Earth, or even on gravity exactly.
1010
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:37.840
I mean, there is an abundance of physical evidence. And
1011
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:42.000
people say, oh, well, the photographs aren't physical evidence. Yes
1012
01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:45.399
they are. They were made on filmed they were not
1013
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:49.640
made out of digital technology, and so it is physical
1014
01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:54.560
as and they've been analyzed by true professionals that I
1015
01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:59.600
have no control over what they say. himI Mason, who
1016
01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:03.520
took me to Mexico, who did this television interview with me,
1017
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:07.680
which is the first place ever in history to show
1018
01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:12.920
an artifact that was made off of this earth, not
1019
01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:18.039
of human beings. I mean, there's all kinds of information
1020
01:18:18.479 --> 01:18:23.000
behind the scenes that happened where people tried to hurt us,
1021
01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:28.079
feel us. He hired the presidential guard to take care
1022
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:32.399
of my team that went to Mexico City. We had
1023
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:37.560
the entire top floor of the Fiesta Americano hotel sanctioned
1024
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:41.880
off for us, with the guards who literally were in
1025
01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:46.319
all the rooms next to us, who protected us. We
1026
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:50.439
went after we did this program, we went out into
1027
01:18:50.479 --> 01:18:56.399
the public where they celebrated that we were there, that
1028
01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:59.920
we did this, that we exposed this information and gave
1029
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:04.439
it to the people of the world by showing them
1030
01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:08.920
everything we had. I mean, this had never been done
1031
01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:15.079
before ever, and this was in two thousand and No
1032
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:20.119
interview had ever been done like this. Jimi's team, Jimi's
1033
01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:24.159
son from Mexico, the journalist, flew to Seattle with a
1034
01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:28.319
team of experts. I took them to the exact site
1035
01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:32.600
in the forest where they took samples of the trees
1036
01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:35.880
and the dirt and the ground and the foliage and
1037
01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:40.560
all took it back and did forensic examination showing that
1038
01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:44.239
something had happened in this site in the three hundred
1039
01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:46.840
foot circle, and.
1040
01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:49.239
I add something in that happened at the site when
1041
01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:53.920
you were filming your documentary, and your partner showed me
1042
01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:58.159
where this incident happened. After of course you pointed it out,
1043
01:19:58.600 --> 01:20:02.560
and I brought a compass the the exact location where
1044
01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:07.039
the obelisk was floating or off anchored into the air,
1045
01:20:07.199 --> 01:20:11.079
and where the body of Freddy was. The compass was
1046
01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:16.920
going crazy yep, right.
1047
01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:20.760
Well, the area that this is in, you know, and
1048
01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:24.880
all this I've learned after the fact by people who
1049
01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:30.239
are geologists, and basically Freddy was a geologist. The alien
1050
01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:37.319
this area is in huge amounts of granite and and
1051
01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:42.239
fairide from the mountain the mountains. This is in the mountains.
1052
01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:45.319
This isn't in a valley you know, down below. This
1053
01:20:45.399 --> 01:20:48.479
is actually up into the mountains at you know, four
1054
01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:54.880
thousand feet above sea level. And all of this iron,
1055
01:20:55.039 --> 01:21:00.640
fair eye and granite and and has huge amounts of
1056
01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:06.239
crystal in it and causes a huge amount of magnetic distortion.
1057
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:10.479
So that's one of the reasons that the compass just
1058
01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:15.119
basically spins out of control. But I didn't know any
1059
01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:18.319
of that prior to this. I mean, who does, who
1060
01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:22.560
knows that kind of thing, who understands, And why would
1061
01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:27.520
they be studying this geology. Well, the Earth is a
1062
01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:33.119
ongoing living thing. It is changing all the time, and
1063
01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:38.199
they are concerned about the geology of the planet and
1064
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:41.720
this is one of the duties. And why he was
1065
01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:49.000
in the mountains the black thing that I call the obelisk.
1066
01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:52.760
Some people say, oh, it was a ship, and I've
1067
01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:56.840
never professed that it was a ship. I always said, well,
1068
01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:00.600
maybe it's a toolbox, maybe it's somebody else. Well, maybe
1069
01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:05.840
it's a doorway between different dimensions. Maybe that gave them
1070
01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:09.479
access because it didn't move the entire time I was there.
1071
01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:13.159
It couldn't be moved. I mean, I'm two hundred plus
1072
01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:15.680
founds and I got on top of it and you
1073
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:19.199
couldn't move it a fraction of an inch. It was
1074
01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:25.520
like it was glued anchored to the air. And physicists
1075
01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:28.319
say that if we had the ability to go from
1076
01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:31.800
one dimension to another, there would be a portal, there
1077
01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:36.079
would be an access point that you would enter to
1078
01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:40.880
change dimensions. Some people believe that's what this is. It
1079
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:47.479
was a representation of a doorway from one dimension to another. Now,
1080
01:22:47.960 --> 01:22:50.920
all I know it was there. It felt like it
1081
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:55.199
realized I was there, And at one point I felt
1082
01:22:55.199 --> 01:23:01.680
that that low, ebbing harmonic tone was looking for the alien,
1083
01:23:02.039 --> 01:23:06.119
who at the time was unconscious I thought dead, but
1084
01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:10.279
it was unconscious and it couldn't find him, and so
1085
01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:14.840
it found me moving around, and for a second and
1086
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:19.520
maybe half a second, it may have actually absorbed me
1087
01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:23.159
and then thrown me back out, realizing that I wasn't
1088
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:26.960
the alien that he was supposed to be taking care of.
1089
01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:28.560
I don't know.
1090
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:32.199
Well the people that are interested in this story. I
1091
01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:36.319
would like to go into the documentary Contact in the Woods,
1092
01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:38.399
the doctor Jonathan Reid's story.
1093
01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:45.399
It's a brand new it's a brand new documentary. People
1094
01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:49.199
had been after me for three or four years trying
1095
01:23:49.239 --> 01:23:54.439
to say this should be done, This should be understood
1096
01:23:54.479 --> 01:24:02.640
and investigated, that my life should be understood better, and
1097
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:07.119
they decided how to do this. This was not my design.
1098
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:12.399
I didn't come up with the concept. People from the
1099
01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:18.239
film industry, from documentary industry had come to me and said,
1100
01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:22.560
we want to do this, will you will you allow
1101
01:24:22.680 --> 01:24:27.319
us to do this? And I finally, after turning them
1102
01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:31.960
down for years, I finally agreed to it as long
1103
01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:38.560
as they would be respective toward my friends, my family
1104
01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:43.479
and the circumstances in which I have to exist, and
1105
01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:49.159
they agreed to that. So this, this documentary should be
1106
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:56.439
coming out about in June. At some time. There may
1107
01:24:56.479 --> 01:25:01.680
be a trailer that is presented ahead of time about
1108
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:06.439
this documentary. It's called Contact in the Woods, the Doctor
1109
01:25:06.520 --> 01:25:13.880
Jonathan Reid's Story. It's well done. All I told them
1110
01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:17.000
after I saw it that the only thing they needed
1111
01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:22.439
was better talent. But that's the you know, I'm the
1112
01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:27.239
talent that they chose. But it's a it's very different.
1113
01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:33.359
It's it's not a normal documentary. I consider it to
1114
01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:36.319
be part one because I think there will be additional
1115
01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:42.279
additional parts to it where we will, you know, show
1116
01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:45.960
more of the evidence, talk more about the other people involved.
1117
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:53.199
But this was this was a design to basically show
1118
01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:57.359
people that I was still alive. How this had affected me.
1119
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:07.239
You know, I'm not a young man anymore, and it has,
1120
01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:11.520
you know, after thirty years of dealing with this, the
1121
01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:18.600
negative propaganda, the issue of dealing with an extraterrestrial that
1122
01:26:18.920 --> 01:26:24.079
visits me unannounced a lot of times. It has left
1123
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:30.760
its mark on my life, on my personality, and I
1124
01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:37.560
have to apologize that in some ways it crippled me
1125
01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:43.800
because I wish I could be more forthright, more outgoing.
1126
01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:48.239
But all I can do is tell the story of
1127
01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:52.640
what has happened to me, the truth about what it
1128
01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:55.600
has done, and how it has affected me in my
1129
01:26:55.720 --> 01:27:02.880
life in some ways. I hope that it helps other
1130
01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:08.960
people that have dealt with similar circumstances. Because it's traumatics,
1131
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:15.800
it's mind blowing. I understand why some people can't handle
1132
01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:21.680
it at all and have chosen, you know, other avenues
1133
01:27:21.720 --> 01:27:28.039
to not deal with it. I must say that I've
1134
01:27:28.119 --> 01:27:31.680
learned a great deal and I hope that it has
1135
01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:34.880
helped other people too. I hope that it will by
1136
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:42.720
exposing myself in this way. Look, I didn't choose to
1137
01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:47.000
do this in my life. I was real happy before
1138
01:27:47.039 --> 01:27:50.359
any of this happened to me. I loved my dog
1139
01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:55.079
and I miss her terribly. She was like a child
1140
01:27:55.159 --> 01:27:58.079
to me, and to see her killed in front of
1141
01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:03.920
my eyes was the most terrible thing I could ever imagine.
1142
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:07.920
But I must say what I can only imagine is
1143
01:28:07.960 --> 01:28:14.439
that is that Robert, my co author of the book
1144
01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:19.119
that I that we wrote that is still available, he
1145
01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:25.119
told me something once and it made an impression. Right
1146
01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:29.600
after we gave a lecture in Laughlin, Nevada at the
1147
01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:33.920
International UFO Congress. It was where we were supposed to
1148
01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:42.079
speak for about forty five minutes to an hour. I
1149
01:28:42.199 --> 01:28:47.359
ended up speaking for three hours NonStop, showing all the photographs,
1150
01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:51.640
showing the videos both in the woods and at home,
1151
01:28:52.479 --> 01:28:55.800
what I call an analysis video of where I unwrapped
1152
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:59.119
the body at home, where people can see that he
1153
01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:06.119
was moving and blinking at the time that I didn't realize.
1154
01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:11.880
I showed all of that and people were captivated. People
1155
01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:15.760
were glued to their seats and didn't want to leave.
1156
01:29:16.359 --> 01:29:20.239
Normally it's a four hundred people audience. We had eight
1157
01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:25.279
hundred and ninety people standing in the aisles and watching this.
1158
01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:31.800
They had never had a bigger lecture of attendance ever
1159
01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:40.600
a woman. Afterwards, we left the auditorium, my team and
1160
01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:44.520
I and security. We left there and we went to
1161
01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:49.520
get something to eat in the hotel. And as we
1162
01:29:49.520 --> 01:29:54.199
were going and we went in and sat down, the
1163
01:29:54.279 --> 01:29:57.399
matre d came back and talked to Robert and asked
1164
01:29:57.479 --> 01:30:00.840
him if he would come out because he had an issue.
1165
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:06.359
Robert left, Robert came back and said, Jonathan, there's a
1166
01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:12.399
woman here waiting to talk to you with her daughter.
1167
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:19.159
And I said okay, and so I took security and
1168
01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:25.039
there she was standing in the entrance of this this restaurant,
1169
01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:30.119
and I introduced myself and I said hello, and she
1170
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:33.680
said hello, and introduce me to her little daughter, who
1171
01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:38.840
was like seven, And she said, I'm sorry to bother you,
1172
01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:41.760
but I want you to know something. She said, I
1173
01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:46.039
want you to know that we came here today specifically
1174
01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:49.359
to hear you. We had heard you on the radio
1175
01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:52.800
with Art Bell. We had listened to every word you
1176
01:30:52.840 --> 01:30:57.680
ever said. And she said, I came here today because
1177
01:30:57.720 --> 01:31:01.760
I didn't believe it was real. She said, I really
1178
01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:05.840
didn't believe that what you had experienced was real, or
1179
01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:10.199
that you were even real. And she says, because we planned,
1180
01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:14.560
I plan to go home and kill myself, my daughter,
1181
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:21.199
because we can't deal with this insanity, because it's happened
1182
01:31:21.239 --> 01:31:26.000
to us too, that they had been visited by extraterrestrials
1183
01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:29.680
several times, and that I'd driven her literally out of
1184
01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:34.039
her mind. And she said, after listening to you, after
1185
01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:39.479
seeing what you brought forth, and listening to your testimony,
1186
01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:45.720
she said, you made me believe that it's important enough
1187
01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:49.800
to be able to tell other people that this happened,
1188
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:54.399
that we weren't crazy, that I'm not out of my
1189
01:31:54.600 --> 01:31:59.199
mind insane, and that I should live for my daughter's
1190
01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:04.800
sake and be able to tell the story. And she said,
1191
01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:10.159
thank you for giving us this hope, this ability to
1192
01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:17.319
rationalize something that has been so irrational that it obviously
1193
01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:22.239
had changed everybody's life who was part of this the
1194
01:32:22.359 --> 01:32:25.760
witnessing of it. But she said, thank you, You've saved
1195
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:31.600
our life. That woman and her daughter contacts me every
1196
01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:35.760
year just before Christmas, and I always get a card
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from them. And the little girl at the time was
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like seven years old, and now thirty years later, you know,
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she's an adult, but she still contacts me. She still
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tells me how important it was that her and her
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mother got to see me in person and listen to
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this testimony, which she said made them understand that life
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is important and that these issues need to be realized
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and understood. And she said, you saved our lives. So
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when people say why did you do this, that's the
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best example I can give you of why this is
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important that I tell people that are willing to listen
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to what happened to me. That's the best example I
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can give you that says why I continue to do
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this and what else can I do. They took away
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my ability work. They took a way am I licensing
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to be able to work as a physician. I can't
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get it back. I've tried for years to get retested
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in other states and even in other countries, but this
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is the fact of the dark government suppression that carries
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on even to this day. So I say to everybody
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who has an experience, be careful how you deal with it,
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be careful who you trust afterwards, and I'm here for
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you to contact. You can always contact me. There's always sources.
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I'm on Facebook, you know, as old as it is.
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I'm available and I have continued to be available for
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people who needed to talk because I understand that. I
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understand that it's necessary to be able to confide in
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someone else that maybe has a similar understanding of what
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they're going through. So that's what I've dedicated my life
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to because I have had no other opportunity to do
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anything else. So that's what I continue to do.
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Well, Doctor Reid, I appreciate you relating your experience with
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us and and I, for one believe it. I have
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no reason to doubt it. And doctor j did you
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have anything you'd like to add?
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No, The only thing I could say is, you know,
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you can basically get the overview of this case in
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an hour and a half or two, or even compress
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it to an hour, but it takes. Remember this case
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was investigated for years.
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I have three interviews spanning about nine hours with Jonathan,
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and we're still going to do more because it's fun enough.
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And there's also dozens, if not hundreds of hours over
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the years I still talked about this case, so there's
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going to be more to come. But there's a lot
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already out there that I suggest people check out the
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three that I did, because I also play all the
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content there, the videos, pictures, some pictures that couldn't show,
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for instance, of Jonathan being shot. He has been shot
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when he said assassination attempts.
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Literally in the car, his driver was killed and he
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was hit himself. I mean graphic enough where I couldn't
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even show him on YouTube.
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He wasn't playing I think three times. Three times. I've
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been shot physically and run off the road numerous times,
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and things I haven't talked about. I was taken, beat up,
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thrown in a van, and basically kidnapped for three days
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and tortured in ways that I can't identify because it's
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too graphic. But if people think that this is just
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that I'm just some guy on the weekends creating a
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little story, they're wrong. They're wrong. I mean, this is
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my life. This is the only thing I have to
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live with. And four it's ongoing. It's not just something
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that happened in nineteen ninety six. It continues to happen
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all the time. I mean, Freddy was here four days ago.
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He morphed into my house where other people have seen him,
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the house that I was staying in. Uh, He's followed
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me around the world, and like we've said, there's been
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numerous other people who have witnessed this and where Freddy
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has shown up in front of them in their house
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or their business, thousands of miles away from me. So
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it isn't me projecting something out of my you know,
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caller or sleeve. It's a reality that we can't escape.
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But people have to understand. The audience needs to understand
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this could happen to any one of you, and you
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would be left with the same feelings that I have
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of what do I do, who do I talk to?
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Who can I trust? You know, do I speak to
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anybody about this? Because it's unnerving. It's even unnerving to
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me after thirty years. It's not natural to have some
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little gray, blue creature or alien morph into your life
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and talk to you with telepathy for forty five minutes
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and then morph out of your reality. It's just not normal,
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but it is part of my life. Doctor Reda.
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I'd really like to have you back, because there's more
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to this story. There's when you're your house was invaded.
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In ransacked, yes and no, Well, I would love I
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would love to tell more, and I would love to
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tell your audience how much I appreciate them listening and
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trying to understand, trying to put their their self in
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my position to better understand what this has been like
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for me and for other people. It's an ongoing story.
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You know, it's not just about me, but it's about
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all of us making changes in our lives. I mean,
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even if you look at the local news nowadays, you're
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getting saturated with what they're calling, you know, disclosure. I
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call it drip drip, drip, because it's so controlled, they're
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not showing what I can show you. I mean, I
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can show you the living being itself, both on video
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and in photographs. They're showing lights in the sky and
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you know, a light ball flying over the water, and
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those are all important things, don't get me wrong. Those
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are all things we can identify, and possibly we've seen
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several many of them have seen lights in the sky.
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But I know what the public wants to know is
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who's driving these these ships, what's inside of them? Where
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are they come from? And I know a lot of
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that detail. I mean, after thirty years of having communication,
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I've asked all those questions, where are you from, why
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are you here, what are you doing? How is this
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going to affect humanity? I have asked all those questions,
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and we can go through that another on another presentation.
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But I just want to say, Carl and doctor j
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thank you so much for this opportunity and for letting
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me share my life with you and your audience. All
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I can say is God bless us all, and please
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take care of each other, because in this day and age,
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that's all we have left is each other.
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Thank you, well, thank you. It's been an honor having
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you and Doctor J. It's been an honor having you
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on the show. Thank you, and we look forward to
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doing this more in the future. Like to say, it's
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this more to the story. And I know you were
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limited a certain amount of time tonight. I'm sure it's
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late where you're at, and so we'll have you back,
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that's for sure.
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It's been an honor for me. Thank you so much everyone.
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Thank you you all. Have a good evening.
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I was hoping they're playing my channel. Go ahead, Oh okay, Well,
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I hope everyone checks out on YouTube Doctor J Radio Live,
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DRJ Radio Life. Not just the Jonathan Reid interviews.
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There's about six hundred interviews of any upologists you can imagine.
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And then so all right, Doctor Reid has lost a
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new website, and I have the link on my Midnight
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Frequency dot net page. That's all one word. You can
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go there and click it. It's still work and progress.
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There's a lot of photos that have to be added
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and some more information and video links and everything else.
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So feel free to go to Midnight Frequency dot Net,
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click on the link, and the site. Like I say,
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over the next few days, I'll get more thanks posts
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into it.
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And June nineteenth, Contact in the Woods and you'll be
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able to see the trailer soon on the website that
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Carl made.
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And not to mention, there'll be a link to the
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movie itself on June nineteenth as well on the website.
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And I got to pre screen the movie, and let
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me tell you something, it's a must watch. It covers
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all this and has the video footage of the link,
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dimensional shift and alien footage that was recorded. I know
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some of it's been cleaned up with AI, but it
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hasn't been altered. So good night, everybody, and we'll see
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you next week. On Midnight Frequency.
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Radio, join host Carl Richardson as he interviews top guests
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in various fields of study, now airing live every Saturday
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night from nine to eleven Central Time and ten pm
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to midnight Eastern.
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As the hour grows late and the signal begins to
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fade into the static, we're left with more than just
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a story tonight, or left with questions about what walks
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in the spaces just beyond our understanding, about what may
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be watching, waiting, or even interacting with us in ways
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we barely comprehend. Doctor Jonathan Read's account sits at the
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crossroads of belief and understanding, where evidence and mystery collide.
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Was it real, was it misinterpreted? Or does it represent
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something far stranger than either explanation allows. Out Here in
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the quiet places, in the forest, the deserts, even in
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spaces between our own thoughts, there are things we don't
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fully understand, and maybe we're not meant to, but that
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won't stop us from asking. Next time, on midnight frequency Radio,
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we shift from beings of flesh to entities of shadows.
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Our guests will be Robert Chelseky, researcher and author, joining
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us to explore one of the most chilling and widely
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01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:13.399
reported paranormal phenomenon of modern times. Shadow people, dark figure
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seen out of the corner of your eye, standing at
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the foot of your bed, watching from doorways, or moving
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just beyond the reach of light. Are they hallucinations? Interdimensional visitors,
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something tied to consciousness itself? Are something else? Entirely. We'll
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dig into eyewitness accounts, theories, and the unsettling patterns that
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connect them. Until next time. Keep your mind open, keep
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your eyes sharp, and remember not everything in the dark
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is hiding. Some of it is watching. For the late
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Art Bell Joshua Stark, Josh cheers, and Lady Rosemary. I'm
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Carl Richardson and this has been Midnight Frequency Radio. We're
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reminding you to continue to explore the unknown.
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