Making a Difference in Human Trafficking: Karen Moore of Sanctum House의 전체 녹취록

work that we do and the realities of what's going on with human trafficking. 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:43.280 So, as a founder of a nonprofit, Karen, what do you think is your superpower? 00:02:43.759 --> 00:03:06.159 Well, my if it is a superpower, my goal with leading an organization is to provide the opportunities for everyone in the organization to be successful, whether it be, you know, education or knowledge or skills, you know, challenges that meet, you know, what their intent is. 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:24.479 Because when people feel they're valued and can reach, you know, strive for their personal potentials, it could be because they're a therapist or they're good at um doing scheduling or like Jen being out in the market and you know, you know, telling people about us. 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:27.520 Everyone has a gift and everyone has a skill. 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:36.960 And it's enabling providing an environment for them to, you know, excel as much as possible on what they each have to offer. 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:39.039 Because we all have something to offer. 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:44.240 And um when we're all doing our best, we're all better for it. 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:46.639 I think that's a beautiful superpower. 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:56.719 So going back to the beginning, you have a lot of executive experience, first with Ford, then with Ladywood High School. 00:03:56.719 --> 00:04:07.520 What inspired you in the middle of all that leadership to say, hey, I think I'll create a place for victims of trafficking to find their strength and work towards recovery? 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:12.960 Well, I was very fortunate, very blessed to grow up in a very healthy family. 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.520 I was, you know, I had a good life. 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:17.279 I had a very good education. 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.079 I came from, you know, a loving family. 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:28.959 One of the things that they always instilled, my parents instilled in me is those that are given are those that need to give back. 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:31.279 And, you know, I had a good education. 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:35.519 I went to great, very good schools and I did well at Ford Motor Company. 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:48.720 I was a global executive, but there was always something that was lingering in me that I have more to give, and that is a part of who I am that I wasn't fulfilling. 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:55.439 So when I took my early retirement, I decided this is this is my time. 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.079 This is going to be my chapter to give back. 00:04:58.079 --> 00:04:59.600 It was not planned. 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:08.560 I never planned to go into academia, but long story short, I was asked to be uh the president and CEO of Ladywood High School. 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:15.439 And I welcomed it because life, you know, the challenges you take, and you know, that you know, pick it up. 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:16.399 And I loved it. 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:23.199 And it was my first step into nonprofits and the nonprofit world, which is very different from the corporate world. 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:24.879 So I learned a lot. 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:30.399 And I was, you know, I did private schools for my education. 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:38.160 I have great value for the education given in the private schools for those that are able to, you know, to go. 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:43.680 And while I was there, I started hearing, you know, about human trafficking. 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:47.360 And Ladywood is an all-girl, private school, college prep. 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:52.720 And I looked at all these girls and I thought, oh my gosh, you know, it just really hit my heart. 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:58.079 And um, coincidentally, I had a friend that said, I know someone. 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:02.399 Now, this goes back to probably 20 uh 10 or 2012. 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:15.600 I know someone that um has a vision to open a program to help victims of human trafficking, and I had only learned a little bit about it, and I said, Oh my gosh, I'm all in. 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.959 He said, She has a vision, but she doesn't know how. 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:25.600 And I've run very large organizations, and so that was then, and here we are now. 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:27.360 We've been open almost nine years. 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:32.959 We've served over 400 women, and we're now we have state funding, federal funding. 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:41.519 We have a strong presence at the state and at the federal level, and we're we have um funds to expand in the light of everything that's going on. 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:48.959 So, but it wasn't me that did it, it was putting the team together and and the right people came at the right time. 00:06:48.959 --> 00:07:07.600 And um we're I'm proud to say, the leadership team, um, we've been together since the beginning, and here we are, and we're doing really good things, and and the thing that we is always the top priority is the focus on those that we serve. 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:09.439 I had a good life. 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:15.600 There's no reason that the women that we serve didn't have the opportunities that I have. 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:17.920 It's uh I just believe it's not fair. 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:33.920 So it's personally for me, it's it's my goal to build a team and to build the relationships in the community with the government to provide the same opportunities I had afforded to me to those that are underserved. 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:39.680 You have a lot of programs and services at Sanctum House. 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.639 I was peeking at your website, I had kind of forgotten. 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.920 And I think it's amazing what you've put together. 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:48.079 And it goes to what you're saying right now. 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:52.079 You want to give these women the same opportunities that

you had. 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:57.199 Can you tell our audience a little bit about the services and programs that you have available? 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:05.920 Well, we provide, and all these services are at no cost to any of the women that come through our program full physical health care. 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:10.399 And that was through developing a partnership with Trinity Healthcare. 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:14.160 Since we opened, they provide all health care to our women. 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:28.399 It could be a cold shot, a flu shot, COVID shot, or it could be a back surgery or going through an unknown when they arrived at our program, they did not know they were pregnant and wanted to carry the baby through. 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:33.120 Trinity has been there right from the start and continues to be. 00:08:33.120 --> 00:10:03.120 There's so many uh, you know, professional opportunities or even educational opportunities that you know you can't qualify for. 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:15.039 So we we treat it as the whole person, you know, um, mentally, physically, you know, legally, whatever their needs are, uh, the everyone's journey is individual. 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:17.440 We have a great case management team. 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:23.919 Every new resident, a participant when they arrive, develops a plan that they participate in developing. 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:25.039 Do they want to go to school? 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:29.840 Do they want to get their high school diploma that they never had the opportunity for? 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:37.039 Or we've had very educated women, lawyers, doctors, medical doctors, social workers. 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:38.320 What do they want to do? 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:42.399 What what were those goals that were robbed from them? 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:44.159 And we help them achieve them. 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:44.960 I love that. 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:47.360 And it's a two-year voluntary program, right? 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:49.120 Yes, it's voluntary. 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:54.080 They choose to come, um, and they also can choose to leave if it's not the right fit. 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:55.679 And sometimes it's not the right fit. 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:59.360 Sometimes, you know, um, they're not ready because it's hard work. 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:06.399 You know, we provide the tools, we provide the opportunities for education, for therapy, for physical health. 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:08.799 Sometimes they're not ready, and that's okay. 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:12.559 And then we get them to someplace else that hopefully is safe. 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:18.320 And then if another another day comes, they're ready as long as we have available space. 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:21.440 Um, we welcome them back, which has happened many times. 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.159 How many, how many women can you house? 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:31.360 Currently 12, and we are at capacity, and um, we have the

federal funds to expand. 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.759 So I just signed the purchase agreement a little over a week ago. 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:46.799 So by the end of the year, we'll uh we'll have a three and a half acre campus, a healing campus, and we're gonna do some rehab on the houses, and by the end of next year, we'll almost triple our capacity. 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:48.879 Wow, that's amazing. 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:50.000 So good team. 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:55.360 And this isn't uh this isn't me doing this, this is everybody together doing it. 00:11:55.360 --> 00:12:00.720 So, and our partners in the community and our partners at the state and federal level. 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:01.519 So, yeah. 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:10.240 That goes back to your superpower of helping people bring out their gifts and succeed in their strengths. 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:21.039 And when I think when you're doing that for people, it energizes them and helps your mission in addition to helping all these women, and it just is a perpetual circle. 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:23.840 Yeah, you know, we all have different gifts. 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:29.679 My goal, my role is to help them find it and let and help them excel. 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:36.799 You know, it's very hard work, it's very dark work, but we find the kindest and the best people to partner with us. 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:42.720 We have great volunteers, we have great partners in the community, the the churches, as you mentioned. 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:48.720 Um uh we're there speaking um, I think last year, was it, or earlier this year? 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:55.519 Um, but we um the universities we work with the University of Michigan, Wayne State University. 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:58.879 Um, we're just um very active in the community. 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:02.799 We do a lot of work with law enforcement, with the attorney general's office. 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:05.679 Um Jen has opened an opportunity. 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:15.519 We're gonna be speaking with law enforcement and downriver this coming week on you know, um appropriate interaction with who's the victim. 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.879 Who's the who's the criminal and who's the victim when you pull people over? 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:24.159 Just because it's a woman that's you know might be having an overdose doesn't mean she's the criminal. 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:38.480 So this the we're having some really important conversations that you know can change people's lives and change how the community thinks of those women that we serve. 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:43.120 So you mentioned you've served so far about 400 women. 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:46.720 Do you ever have a moment where you think this is why I do this? 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:48.080 Oh, so often. 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:55.679 I mean, we have a woman that um is going to be transitioning out next week and we're having a party for her. 00:13:55.679 --> 00:14:08.639 And she

came in to see me today because I work with them on one of the things I love doing with the women because my role is a lot in the community and keeping it funded and interaction and partnerships. 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:28.320 But one of the things I really like to do with the women is help them develop good financial habits and saving rather than, you know, you get money spend, spend, you know, so that um when they do get ready to transition and move on, that they have, you know, you know, a good, you know, have a bank account. 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:34.559 And one of the women, she came in to see me today and she said, you know, Karen, and and this is so cool. 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:46.799 She had a child while she was being trafficked, and um her parents had have guardianship of her son, and she never thought that she would be able to parent him. 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:52.559 She's been with us over a little over two years, and she is moving out next week. 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:59.679 She's getting an apartment near her parents, and she is going to be the parent to her four-year-old son. 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:00.080 Oh. 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.919 And she will eventually have full guardianship. 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:20.639 And I mean, you know, in their story, one after another, it's one person at a time who, when she came in, she, you know, um, she struggled with her addictions and with with everything, but she's she's done the hard work and and through it all. 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:30.320 She had a you know, a good job was saving her money, and she came in to see me today and she says, Karen, um, I'm ready to take uh my money with me. 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:35.519 And it just uh so you know, I know it's beautiful. 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:43.279 And then there's the little ones, like you know, um woman that is so talented, she's an artist, but nobody ever cared. 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.480 She's young, she's probably 22, 23. 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:52.960 And um now because she's in a safe place, she's she's doing her artwork. 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:59.679 And uh Zach, who was on the call earlier, um, he's gonna exhibit it at Wings of Courage. 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:15.120 Um so they're finding their, you know, who they are, and the it's the little moments that are so rewarding, and just even when the tough days are, you know, it's you you just look at them and you just you just feel good. 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.720 Do they uh develop relationships among themselves? 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:25.919 Oh, they're sisters for life because they've walked a walk that you know, fortunately many of us haven't. 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:30.720 And it's yeah, it's a lifelong relationship, and they still take stay in touch. 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.919 Those that have come and gone in gone over the years. 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:38.399 Many of them come back and work with us, work, you know, work at Sanctum House. 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:47.360 We have

staff 24 or 7 or the and they mentor those that come behind them, and you know, they can understand it better than any of us can. 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:47.840 Yeah. 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:57.600 So you mentioned you were at Lady Wood School and you're just looking around at these girls, and you had just started learning about trafficking. 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:10.720 To give our audience perspective, if we're sitting around a group of women, a group of young girls, what are the statistics on how many people in that group might end up in trafficking? 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:24.799 Well, there's really no accurate statistics on trafficking because traffickers don't call into a hotline and say, I've got 15 or 25 in my stable and I lost three last month to overdose. 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:29.039 So it's under-reported and it's very well hidden. 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:40.880 And so the only in accurate information is those that um victims or knowledgeable people or people that suspect something call into the national hotline. 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:45.359 And that's what we always recommend or contact, you know, local law enforcement. 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:49.920 But it's, you know, $150 billion business a year. 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:52.480 You can drug dealers get out of selling drugs. 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:56.960 If you've got, you know, some crack or heroin or fentanyl, whatever, you can sell it once. 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:58.480 And if you get caught, you're caught. 00:17:58.480 --> 00:17:59.599 There's not much you can say. 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:05.599 If you've got a curt, cute girl or boy or woman or man, it doesn't matter. 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:07.119 It's a human being. 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:08.960 You've got a renewable commodity. 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:17.519 So then use them five, six times a night, night after night, week after week, year after year, and they're just pulling in the cash. 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:23.920 So, I mean, it's going on in Birmingham, women from you know, Ann Arbor, West Bloomfield High School. 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:27.839 A lot of people think it's in, you know, poverty areas. 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:36.799 I mean, it is, but it's everywhere else too, because yeah, just think the the cuter, the more polished they are, the more money you can charge for them. 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:40.240 I mean, I speak at Bloomfield Hills High School every year. 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:46.480 And just a couple years ago, um, one of the girls there, she's a senior. 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:57.680 I she was in the talk that I did and when she was a junior, she said, um, last year, you know, I was listening to, you know, you say, you know, look for something different. 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:02.319 You know, there's nothing magic to say this is what you look for, it's behavioral. 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:19.680 You know, if you're high school or middle school um student, if one of your lifelong friends is all of a sudden doing something different, or maybe not hanging around with the same crowd, or maybe all of a sudden you got an iPad or you got an iPhone, or you know, something's different. 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:23.119 Just be aware, you know, talk to a counselor, talk to a parent. 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:28.240 And, you know, we do as much work at the schools as they're willing to listen. 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:31.839 You know, not all schools are open to having the conversation. 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:37.599 But, you know, I was there Bloomfield Hills High School, you know, and I talked to the girls about it. 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:48.960 And the next year when I came back, one girl said, you know, I when I went home, my mom and I were talking, and we noticed that lives right in the heart of Bloomfield Hills, right down the street from where they live. 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:58.799 There was like abnormal activity at a house, like during the day, you know, it's a neighborhood, and there was a lot of people coming and going. 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:04.880 And she said, So my mom said, you know, called um the hotline. 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:09.039 And anyways, it was a trafficking house in the heart of Bluefield Hills. 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:11.279 So I mean, it's supply and demand. 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:13.519 If the demand is there, the supply will appear. 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:15.920 So it's all about money and greed. 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:24.240 So that's why, you know, this is a great uh community um opportunity that you're offering us for education. 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:28.559 It's not, you know, and you know, people say, Oh, it's in Detroit or Pontiac. 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:31.839 Well, yeah, it is, but it's also everywhere else, you know. 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:38.160 So do you network with other similar safe houses around the country? 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:59.359 Yes, we have a because there's so few services, we have a very strong network within the state and across the country because we often get calls from all over the country because there's so few services, especially long-term, because you can imagine the mental and physical abuse that these you know victims go through. 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:06.640 And three months isn't gonna, you know, make a dent in it or give them the confidence to live a productive life. 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:12.799 So um we get calls and we're we're one of the referrals on the national hotline. 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:19.599 So the few services in the country we we're all you know connected and we do mutual referrals. 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.160 We get a lot of women coming from across the country. 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.480 We have one coming in um next week, I think from Tennessee. 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:32.000 We we have them from Charleston, Texas, Georgia, Oregon, because there's so few services. 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:37.359 And sometimes they need to get away from their geographical location for safety.

00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:46.559 And then sometimes women that contact us from you know, Michigan feel that it's better for them to leave the state to really be safe. 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:51.119 So yeah, we have partners, you know, within the state and across the country. 00:21:51.359 --> 00:22:02.720 So, Karen, when you tell me that trafficking is a $150 billion industry, and you are Helping disrupt that industry. 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:06.960 I imagine that there are a lot of people that are not happy with you. 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:13.759 How do you keep yourself and the safe house and your women safe? 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:16.640 Well, safety is our number one priority. 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:19.039 So we have very good safety protocols. 00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:27.279 We don't disclose the location of the house, the mailing off the mailing address where mail comes and goes is at a in a different city. 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:28.000 It's in Novi. 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:31.599 And it just it's a um place where I can pick up the mail. 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:34.480 It's an American near where I live. 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:37.440 And we have cameras around the house. 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:39.759 And you know, we're just very cautious. 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:46.799 And they, you know, the women there um are protective of each other and uh they take care of each other. 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:49.359 So knock on wood, almost nine years. 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:50.559 We've never been breached. 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:51.359 That is amazing. 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:59.200 For all the women that have not continued on the program, they might have come for a week or two and felt, you know, they weren't ready for this. 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:00.640 It's hard work, you know. 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.359 Um, they leave, but we've never been approached. 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:08.240 And we have a great um relationship with a local law enforcement, county law enforcement. 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:10.319 So we've got panic buttons. 00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:15.200 Um, so um we're it's just uh top priority for safety of the women. 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:22.160 Well, that is a wonderful thing to hear that you've never been breached, and I hope it stays that way for everyone concerned. 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:39.359 And it sounds like your experience as an executive and a leader at Ford, and then your first nonprofit, all of all of these skills that you learned along the way have really served you well for Sanctum House. 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:47.839 I'll tell you uh so many times, and in this uh the challenging, especially the challenging business we're environment we're in right now. 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:53.839 I'm just so grateful for Ford Motor Company for you know the executive and leadership training I had. 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:55.200 I learned how to run a business. 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:57.599 I got had great education, I had great parents. 00:23:57.599 -->

00:24:21.039 I mean, I'm I'm one of the fortunate ones, you know, which is uh great, but now I feel smaller because it's those, you know, it's it's my mission in life now to take those opportunities, all the education, the skills I've learned to help others, and every single woman that walks through those doors is, you know, a blessing, you know. 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:31.119 Now I kind of feel like my little podcast, we could talk for hours about this, and yet most people don't want to listen to hours on a podcast. 00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:42.319 So, what are some ways that people listening can get to know more about Sanctum House, about the trafficking world, and ways they can help? 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:44.640 Well, we have an annual gala first. 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:53.200 Uh first of all, uh this ongoing community education is absolutely critical because you reach little pockets, big pockets. 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:58.319 You're reaching the people that you know might know or see something. 00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:07.440 Uh, but one of the really important parts of our outreach to the community is our annual gala, which is Wings of Courage. 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:13.920 And we're really fortunate to be able to have it at the Detroit Zoo this year. 00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:15.920 They're a partner of ours. 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:21.680 Um, they actually do a private event for all our residents once a year. 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:23.680 Um, private tour of the zoo. 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:27.279 Once it's closed, our residents, our staff, our volunteers. 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:35.200 Um, now they've opened up their hall right outside the butterfly exhibit where we're able to host our annual gala. 00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:47.200 And the beauty of it is the symbolism of the butterfly, starting as a caterpillar and growing and spreading your wings and flying off. 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:53.119 So, um, and that was, you know, many years ago when we named it Wings of Courage. 00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:58.880 And with the partnership with the Detroit Zoo, um, it's just it's a beautiful thing. 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:03.680 And it's October 22nd for anyone that may be interested. 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:06.160 It's going to be a wonderful evening. 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:12.160 It's a Thursday, and all the information is on our website, sanctumhouse.org. 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:18.240 And come and it's going to be fun, but it's also going to be educational. 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:32.559 Many of our former residents will come and talk about their journey, what Sanctum House has meant to them, and for all those others, you know, um, people that we will serve in the upcoming years. 00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:38.960 And because it's at the zoo, we have a um maximum amount that we'll be able to invite. 00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:43.759 So we encourage people to, you know, make their reservations and come. 00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:46.480 And also the opportunity to sponsor. 00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:55.839 We have companies and corporations that want to sponsor to see their name up there to, you know, to show that they are supporting the fight against human trafficking. 00:26:55.839 --> 00:27:11.759 So there's opportunities for sponsorship and opportunities to come and learn, and the whole team, our team will be there to meet everyone and welcome them, and also, you know, um share the stories and education of what we do. 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:16.079 And then I think you have some local events as well. 00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:18.720 Yes, and you can always check our website. 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:24.960 Uh, we do one of the uh it's a fun thing is craft nights um at different local churches. 00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:31.519 Um, you know, we have crafters that, you know, people come together and it's $40. 00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:35.680 So it's, you know, it's doable for uh within a budget. 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:39.119 We have some of our existing residents come and talk. 00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:42.000 Every cent helps them, you know, with their journey. 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:45.599 And it's fun and make a craft and you get to keep your craft. 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:47.680 We provide, you know, refreshments. 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:55.759 And that's on our website too, or Jen Moscow, who's on here, our marketing ambassador. 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.720 She is the lead on organizing those. 00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:06.319 We have one scheduled in September, I think 23rd, and then one in uh November and some next year. 00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:16.720 But if there's any church or organization that would like to host one, uh we come well prepared with the crafter and all the, you know, the supplies, and uh they're a lot of fun. 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:18.240 We have a a big following. 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:23.119 We start when we started, they were like eight or 10 at a time. 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:24.799 Now we're up to 50. 00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:38.000 You know, we have to sometimes cap them off, but you know, they're fun and they get to meet our team and meet some of the women that come, you know, that are actually going through their program and they say, you know, thank you. 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:40.319 This is helps us, you know. 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:43.519 Um, the education helps those that come behind us. 00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:44.799 So absolutely. 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:50.400 So it's time for our lightning round, and this is just a chance for people to get to know you a little bit. 00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.240 Are you a coffee or a tea drinker? 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:52.960 Coffee. 00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:55.519 All right, early bird or night owl. 00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:57.920 Neither I like my sleep. 00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:00.559 All right, I like that answer. 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:04.000 Do you have a tool or an app that helps you run your nonprofit? 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.759 No, just our souls and their their compassion. 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:08.319 Okay. 00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:11.519 Do you have a favorite way to unwind after a busy day? 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:13.839 Physical exercise every single day. 00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:19.759 And do you have another female founded nonprofit that you would like to give a shout out to? 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:23.119 Oh, um, well, we have so many partners. 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:48.160 Um, that some of our key partners of Trinity Health, that's a large organization, but also Open Arms, which is a uh subset of Henry Ford and Ascension um program that um supports outreach onto the streets, Avalon Healing Services in downtown Detroit that does outreach onto the streets, common ground in Oakland County that does outreach onto the streets. 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.559 This is uh this is um a crime that we can't do it alone. 00:29:52.559 --> 00:30:02.799 So we do the long-term residential, wrong, long-term recovery part, but we don't do the street outreach and the emergency pickup, but we have a partners that do it. 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.640 That's you know, open arms, it's you know, Avalon Healing Services. 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:08.960 We all collaborate together. 00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:17.440 Well, audience, remember you can follow Karen and Sanctum House on Facebook and Instagram, and of course their website, sanctumhouse.org. 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:23.440 We are actually going to turn this into a two-part episode because there's just so much information. 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:30.640 So make sure you come back tomorrow and you can hear the rest of our conversation as Karen and I wrap things up. 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:39.279 I'll be sure to put everything in the show notes and we'll also put some resources there as well in case you know anyone that needs some help. 00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:41.599 Karen, thank you so much for joining us today. 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.720 I really appreciate your time and your conversation in your heart. 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:45.359 Thank you. 00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:46.240 Thank you, Jenny. 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.000 Audience, thank you for listening today. 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:54.559 If you'd like to know what we discuss in part two, come on back tomorrow and it'll be on the podcast page.