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Welcome to finding emo, our podcast
where we discuss our favorite albums from the
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early adds and thereabouts. I'm Blake
Fisher and I'm joined by Chris Banyane Kyle
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Simmons, and thanks for joining us. We appreciate you and we almost got
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this one out technically in time,
so we're getting back on that schedule.
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Thanks for hanging out with us.
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Then you get everything you want and
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just five star reviews. That's that's
all I asked for. Yeah, today
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on the podcast we are doing because
it just turned twenty years old. Dashboard
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professionals, two thousand and one EP
twice. Yeah, so I think will
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ep. It's twenty years old this
week. Next years beer with it.
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Yeah, so we just thought it
would be a great shorter episode. Since
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it only has four songs on it. We should manage to keep this under
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an hour and a half. I
think we can do that, guys.
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I think so. By the way, guys, Happy National Emo Day on
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Sunday. I didn't text you,
but high I know right, it's got
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it on Hashtag now. I didn't
even know it. How To national holiday?
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Yeah, I'll celebrate that one.
I should have done something. I
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mean, I didn't because I didn't
know about it, but nasty, the
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Sunday, last Sunday. Yeah,
I'm late. Does anyone know why that
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date that? They just pick a
random date, or I is there's some
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importance to hmm, that album,
I mean for that for that day.
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I didn't know if it was like
Fug Azi came out with their first RUC
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something's yeah, why? December nineteen? That's an interesting question. Yeah,
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I don't know. Well, we'll
probably no way out. One out,
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probably no, there's no. The
Internet will not probably help us, just
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like it didn't help us a lot
with finding anything about this album. Actually,
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Chris and I both kind of jumped
into it and I was like wow,
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there's literally, you know, it's
barely listed on the wikipedia page because
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it's not an album, quote unquote, or what they call a studio release.
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Like I think this is technically recorded
in a studio and then released,
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so I don't understand why it does
not count. But it's an EPE,
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so they, I guess, just
didn't like to put a lot of information
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at obviously we've recapped this on the
furthest things forever and the places you come
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to fear the most episodes. But
two thousand and one was a heck of
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a year for big US Carrava.
Okay, I don't have the exact day
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to get in front of me,
but I'm pretty sure the order of operations
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was that in March the DASHBOOR professional
record came out of two thousand and one,
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and places you come to fear the
most, in April, I think,
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the further seams forever album came out, and then this is December of
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two thousand and one and by I
think, June of two thousand and two,
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the summer's Kiss Epe came out,
or the summer's kiss might have came
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out before this, but either way
all of those are within like a less
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than eighteen month period. Of Time. So and he had quit. He
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had quit further before that record came
out. Right, he actually was out
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of the band when he recorded the
vocals for the moon is down, and
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that the moons down came out a
month after the places you've come for the
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most and it'Swiss Army Romance only came
out one hour before. Well, I
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mean one year before that. So
felt like he's a busy guy from two
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thousand to two thousand and two.
And I love this little gym. And
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Blake, don't forget, he's help
run in the family. Rest the run.
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They bring it in that big bread
stick money and that he also do.
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They have frids drip, but bread
sticks that Corralas I know. That's
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a thing there. They must.
I gotta meet the ball right, of
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course. I forgot to mention my
meet run in the restaurant. Somebody just
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put like so many people just hit
stopped, like I can't do this.
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Joking, guys, don't. You
can't go down run it. It's to
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the freaking ground. It's too much
nny. Really. That's some more.
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Is that going to be Chris Pratt's
Mario Voice? Oh my God, they
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upcoming and the Internet would feature film
about that now. They were not.
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Chris. Did you find anything else
about this album? I know Chris Graba
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played on it. I know who's
The guy's name from? Yes, Dan
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Horner, we believe, saying some
background vocals of according to an article fame,
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I mean, and he's sunny,
he's emo royalty. Yeah, yeah,
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for sure. Yeah, I to
get and I thought he played.
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I thought he played guitar with Chris, at least didn't in he the one
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that played on the the unplugged so
I was thinking maybe that was the case.
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Yeah, because he did unplugged a
few months after this. Right,
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yeah, that's also two thousand and
that's early two thousand and two, I'm
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pretty sure. Right, right,
because it's before a mark mission, a
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brandon scark comes out, right you? Oh, yeah, for sure.
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Okay, that doesn't come out till
two thousand and four or something. Anyway,
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we can look that up, I
guess too. Yeah, there's just
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not a lot of information out about
it, but that's that's about it.
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Yeah, that's what we know.
It's on vagrant records. It comes out
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December eighteen, two thousand and one. Chris Kraba is definitely on it.
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We don't know who else is that. I do not believe that that gentleman
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for Sunday real estate played with him
unplugged, though. Okay, HMM,
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yeah, sorry, that's okay.
I just I literally don't know. I
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couldn't remember do either. You guys. I should know this. Blake,
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you spotify, Chris, use apple
music, right and true. I use
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both right now because I'm on a
trial of apple music. I'm seeing if
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they can convince me the sound quality
spotify. That's that's why I use it.
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So, Chris, have you noticed
that they've done the new like animated
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album covers, and this one had
its fun. Did you notice? Oh,
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it is, yeah, the the
the guy in the Gal or like
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moving around and like, you know. Like. So I have itunes match,
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which so sometimes I'm listening to like
the uploader version of my album from
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one I like. Oh, I
see burnt the CD. Yeah, if
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you open apple music and and go
to the artwork on this, they're like
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interacting. Cool, want walt that's
up all. Actually, I do have
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it, it's just I don't have
my phone. Oh, yeah, she's
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playing with her hair. Yeah,
is that thing that they have a record?
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Yeah, I think it's a record
is a record. Yeah, see,
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we made it work. We talked
about the album a little. Hey,
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look at bad there's some information.
There is some information. This is
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the blue one. Otherwise, but
there's the blue one and then there's the
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orange one, which was summer's kiss. And so anyways, I mean we
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can basically get right into kind of
our opening stuff. So we obviously already
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know about Chris Grob at this point. We've done two of his albums on
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this podcast. So we are aware
of dashboard professionals. So our first impressions
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are not really so much first impressions
of the band, but maybe of the
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album. Kyle, let's good.
You first. What your first impressions?
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It's it kicks Butt and and also
we talked about softly, super softly kicks.
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But yeah, it's super softly kicks. But well, I mean track
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for kicks, but through, true, true, but so I think I
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don't know what it is because even
in my memories, like Dashboard still has
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this punk rock spirit to me,
like I know that this is softer,
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I know, I know that it's
like not, but it it has this
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punk rock vibe and it always takes
me back like this was for me for
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all of you youngsters out there.
In two thousand and one, some of
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US crazy cats would put a put
a CD on and hit the old repeat
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button and go to sleep. And
Dashboard was that for me. For sure.
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Yeah, that is a good one
for that. And also, you
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know, maybe, I, maybe, I try to smooch your girl while
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I listen to it. Oh yeah, for sure, without a doubt.
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Just get some sugar. I don't
know. That definitely happened, Chris.
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Your additional impressions I vaguely remember.
I mean I think you know I was
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really into places you have come for
the most and so it's just kind of
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exciting when this came out because,
you know, we we're just all kind
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of excited to have some new music
from him, because all of us had,
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everyone I knew had been listening at
something that album all summer and it
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was just a nice little, nice
little like how do you do for the
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fans? You know, very,
very simple, quick record, but all
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the songs were really decent on I
think I played it, you know,
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played it a lot. Feel Samilli
or to played it a lot. Plus,
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you know CD players. So Yep, I had you all, had
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six in my call. You're driving. I mean you, yeah, four
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song EP throw in all sudden you're
like, well, this is either on
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repeat or right highway. I can't
change it out right now exactly. There's
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a yeah, there's a lot of
limitations there. I've had to I tried
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to explain this to my kids and
they don't I've just I feel like such
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an old man. I'm like no, we used to maybe have twelve albums
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we could listen to in the car. or Oh yeah, those really big
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binders, but didn't have a friend
in the car. You couldn't go digging
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through that now. That was right, you know, stuffing gas station or
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something right. Yeah, I mean
I obviously was pretty high on dashboard at
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this point and love them and I
didn't notice, though, up front that
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this was a single story like that. Did Not I really liked it,
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but I because I guess paid attention
less to lyrics than some people would.
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I just didn't catch the once I
caught that, I really liked it because
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so many concept albums that are like
they throw like two ideas and they kind
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of pepper them throughout, but really
they didn't write a cohesive story. It's
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really like cohed did it? For
sure but like even my chemical romance didn't
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really like tell US story from track
one all the way through a record,
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like they kind of had a vibe
going on. I put it wasn't enter
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more themed. Yeah, themes,
that's probably right. And so this was
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like a kind of themed record,
concept kind of thing, but actually told
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a complete story from beginning by end, Song by Song, and I thought
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that was really cool, especially because
you got to do it lyrically and musically,
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and I think that he did that
really well, ending with hands down.
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You know, if that was tracked
to that, that would be terrible.
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You know, like just move the
lyrics around or want to get move.
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He would not be a good move. And so to have it kind
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of move like a musical piece and
lyrically, I thought was a really cool
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thing. And and then, of
course, you know, we also sort
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of told this story, but we're
pretty sure that this is about someone we
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know the and I mean we would
assume the entire EP is if we know
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a song was because Chris and I
open four dashboard back in whatever, like
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two thousand and eight and Yelp,
we knew he dated this girl we went
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to high school with and chatted about
it and stuff. And so then on
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stage he was like camera, which
song was? Do you know which one
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was? I think it was remembered
to breathe. I'm pretty sure I can't
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remember, but either way he was
everyone right. Yeah, yeah, an,
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that sounds familiar. Yeah, I'm
pretty sure it was that at that
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show. Is kind of the the
whole experience, kind of scroll, yeah,
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troll, pick it up details,
but yeah, absolutely. Yeah,
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I'm pretty sure it was rememored a
breathe. And so he played. He
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like mention it looks like, Hey, you know, this one's about a
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girl that the other guys went to
high school with, but I win because
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I gotta make out with her and
so and then play this song. So
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I assume if you write this thing, if this is a whole story and
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we know one songs about this girl, we'd assume the whole thing was.
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So that makes it kind of fun
too. Yes, and I think we
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kind of suspected that at the time. It came out to yeah, we.
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Yeah, we suspect made an extra
fun yeah, but confirmed, but
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confirmed, yes, and this is
the most sourcing we've ever had direct using
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with on anything we ever said on
this podcast. Everything else was like a
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weak like yes, you guys are
right, it's about her, but confirmed,
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like, you know, like a
wink. I just went to the
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guys. I forgot. You can
use you can't see the wink. I
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pointed at my Will Ferrell. And
just this week Chris Grabo posted onstagram like
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a quote where he said what's amazing
to me is I wrote that song thinking
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talking about hands down, thinking I
was sharing it with one other person,
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only to find out I would be
sharing that song with thousands of people every
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night, maybe for the rest of
my life, and that feels pretty good.
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So, and you know, that's
that's kind of crazy. He just
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really wrote this for, I assume, that girl. But yeah, obviously
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turned into a pretty big thing,
especially because the the later hands down full
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band electric version from the following record. It does is a good big thing
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for for that band, really launches
them significantly higher than the previous record did.
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So that's kind of my first impression. And then I just like side
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note that, because I could just
say it for all of these, is
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that I think the unplug performances are
from that MTV unplugged or actually pretty cool
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of these tracks too. And I
also really liked those versions, even though
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we're not going to play those versions
on this show. But y'all, any
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other thoughts on kind of first impressions? No, Den, we did.
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We officially say happy birthday to this. We did. Yeah, okay,
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all twenty years, twenty when we
go years. Yeah, that's kind of
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crazy, which we probably have a
lot in this next year that are twenty
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years. We should probably actually just
plan that out instead of waiting for the
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instagram post from some artists. Were
like, Oh, we should do that
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this week. This is this is
how we decide what we're doing for a
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podcast. That's how we decided that
we're doing this podcast. Yeah, we
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literally solid thing that. Twenty years. Yeah, we should do it this
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week. We go, okay,
only the two thousand and five. Yeah,
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let's do it there. We go
okay, so a track one is
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for you to knows the but we
just slightly longer clips because I just figured
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we're only doing four songs, so
seems reasonable. Kyle, thoughts on track
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one for you to notice, I
freaking love the harmony on the for you
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to notice me at the end of
that clip, like it's just awesome.
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I think we talked about this on
the last dashboard episode, but he does.
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He does kind of an interesting formula
for like the layout of his songs,
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you know, like I guess that's
the chorus, that's at the yeah,
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that I'm not sure, but like, you know, I don't feel
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like I'm missing anything. I love
man two thousand and one. That was
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that was a that was a good
time for me as well, and so,
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like, I love listening to the
opening of this. I'm starting to
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fashion an idea in my head where
I can impress you with every single word
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I said, like the confidence of
youth man, you know, like,
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yeah, like, I'll have more
to say about about that over the next
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you know, four tracks here.
But like I love this song and it's
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in it's you know, maybe it's
nostalgia, but like I still think it's
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good and I still love when he
goes for it at the end of that
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the notice. I do too.
It's just awesome. I love the yeah,
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the harmonies are awesome, the guitar
parts are great on this, like
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it's really good and it was kind
of like I felt like the other thing
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that this album did a good job
of is there were all these people at
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the time that, you know,
because idiots do this. Every time this
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happens to an artist, they're like, well, I like them better on
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Swiss army romance when it was just
him and not clean production and a full
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band or whatever. You know how
people basically just a band gets popular and
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they start being like, well,
I liked him before and so I don't
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like the new thing. This was
kind of at least a way to go
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like okay, it's kind of that
Swiss Army Romance, just acoustic and him
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and going back to that. So
it's kind of not I like that.
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I feel like that was kind of
not not fan service, but it was
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going back to that. I believe
you're talking. I believe they call that
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haters like like haters. Yeah,
but it's not really haters. It's people
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that go I like the old thing
that you don't know exists because I was
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cool or before you were I didn't
even like that's the part that bothers me.
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Yeah, if someone just didn't like
Dashburgnfessional, not a problem. It's
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when you're like, Oh, I
only like clarity if you're Jimmy Rol fan,
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or Oh, I only like Swiss
Army Romance, or I only would
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just like pick any band and do
their first record versus the second one that's
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more successful, and when people do
that it just kind of it drives me
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nuts. It's fine if you just
don't like something, that's okay, but
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I don't think there was a big
enough departure from what he was doing between
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those three things. Like Swiss army
places you've come to for the most no
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way, and this there's not like
leaps, there's not like a huge amount
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of daylight between them where you would
not recognize it or something. So always
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thought that was going to silly.
Chris, what are your thoughts on on
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the track dig the song? That
intro kind of swell, I like when
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I first listen to it again after
when we decide. Yeah, this,
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man, that gave me the feels, Dude. I was like yeah,
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back in my car, I don't
know, man, it just that I'm
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I'm saying that because I want to
stay unequivocally that there are plenty of albums
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from this era that don't take me
right back. Like I feel like I
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could smell the air the December are
two thousand and one. When I hear
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this, it's the windows are down. Yeah, for sure. What the
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Doing? The tornado with the heater
on if it's December. Yeah, but,
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yeah, and kind of interesting thinking
about how. Yeah, I was
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also remember myself being in positions like
this where you are like it, you
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know, because like the concept of
you and go into a party. Now
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it's just like so baffling to me. So that's like thinking about. I
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remember you would show up, you
kind of like try to find like the
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air, you know, like find
some people you know, and then you
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might see someone you've never seen from
across the room. I don't know,
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man, it's a it's a it's
a good song. It puts you put
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you right in that put you right
back in that spot. The injured did
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the exact same thing with me,
Chris. I mean, yeah, I
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can remember. I don't remember where
I was when I first heard it,
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but I just remember the general places
I was hanging out when I was just
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playing this album all the time at
that point. So yeah, that that
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little intro thing. I'm with you. There's a lot we talked about a
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lot of albums that were nostalgic for
and but this is definitely one of them
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that I can remember specifics about.
So, yeah, that sound also took
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me right back. So okay,
let's go to track to so impossible.
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I was hoping to love a few
things like so we look. Well,
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Christ is good. You first thoughts
on so impossible track to to man just
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frighten the fields. That that what
is that? That kind of arrangement?
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Is it? Maybe just he does
this a lot on place you come up
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fear the most. Is An organ
in the background, or just I think
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it's just like a synth, kind
of just a sipid drink. It's like
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a sea. Yeah, it's a
string emulator, but it's not like a
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light one. No, yeah,
right, but that's what makes it good
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for this song. I don't know, it just makes it perfect. It's
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not, I don't know. It's
almost like the the dashboard sound at this
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point. You know, it's like
a little pad kind of thing. Yeah,
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I pick it up a little bit. Yeah, I mean that line
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dishing dirt on the whole class.
We're talking the big smack always, always
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bugg me a little just at it
was a little hit. Hits, it
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hits you a little weird. But
I love this song absolutely, huge fan.
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Yeah, I like. I mean
it's just it's a good I really
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mean. Yeah, you're again.
I forgot that we had toms. Talked
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about that on the last episode we
talked about him. But you're right,
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those formats of these songs, yeah, are you're it's like, is that
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the chorus, is it not?
I don't know, the pre chorus?
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I like a weird yeah, because
I mean it's because it kind of flows
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right into one thing and it's a
good he's pretty good at the storytelling kind
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of thing and so it works pretty
well. Cow, what your thoughts on
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so impossible. So I agree with
my birthday buddy. I hate that line
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and I love I never bothered.
Oh my gosh, I hate it so
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much and I love this song yet
and I hate that line. And other
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than that, I want to talk
momentarily, since is only four songs.
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You know, we can get off
on a side tangent if you guys want.
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Yeah, that's fine, I will. I want to talk about what
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this song makes me, used to
make me feel, and how it makes
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me feel now. And it's like, I I think often how grateful I
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am that I am not dating today
all the time, having today look like
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I think all the time. Thank
you God, that I'm not having to
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to be in the dating pool and
and like this song makes me remember how,
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like different things were back then,
in two thousand and one because now,
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like with social media and everything,
it's like we present ourselves as who
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we want to be seen as.
This is who I am, this is
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what I think, blah, blah, blah, Blah Blah. But back
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then, like dating someone was an
invitation to be curious, like who are
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you? What do you lie?
Like we, you know what I mean.
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Like in this song captures that feeling
that I that I, that I
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I don't know. I believe maybe
gone from dating. Now, I can't
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only say because I'm not a part
of it, but, like, what
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terrifies me about dating is I feel
like this is no longer part of it.
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You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Is that
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weird? No, I don't think
it's weird. I've never thought about that.
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I mean, I've thought about what
a nightmare it would be to date
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again just because I wouldn't know how
to do it, but I hadn't thought
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about the fact that, like it's
not only it's changed in that way.
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I never I guess there would probably
be so many people. I only know
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because right before we start recording this
Chris and I were talking about how twitter's
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a nightmare. Yeah, it is, and the Internet start fire. What
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happens is I get on something like
I used to love twitter, and then
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what was slowly happening to me is, I mean, I'm in the politics,
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for sure, and so I'm I
follow a lot of like that kind
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of stuff, and I generally like
talking about it and, you know,
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having a little arguments, but I
was like losing respect for people that I
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knew and liked because of the things
that they were saying online about other human
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beings. Right, and I was
just like what I was in relation to
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dating, though, I would imagine
I would be eliminating people from the possibilities
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based on that kind of stuff on
social media. Does that make sense?
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And it might not be fair because
that might be just as fake or old,
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you know, yeah, exactly represented. And and so, yeah,
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that would probably weird, because there
was no it was like, am I
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attracted to you? was like step
one, number one. Yes, really,
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that was in person. What kind
of food do you like? Right,
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and like Oh, yeah, and
then we had to figure everything else
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out and like this is right,
my you know, two thousand when is
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my space? Have that's like a
couple years after this, two thousand and
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four, two thousand and five,
probably two thousand. Probably my space is
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kind of height. I can't remember
when they got sold, but two thousand
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and one there was not anything social
media wise. I couldn't even have a
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fun that could text right. So
I've never thought about that car with.
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That's really genius, like that's yeah, that's it really so true. I
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can't imagine it would be the same. Maybe it's a good insight. Maybe
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dating is the same, but I
get the vibe that it's not. You
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know what I mean? Like,
no, I know, I don't think
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it is. Now. Well,
and even even if it isn't, like
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we can have nostalage it for what
it was. And I don't, Dude.
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I was just thinking back to like
all the rush, like you.
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That's how you would discover restaurants or
music, like sometimes when you were dating
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somebody like you would like see the
world through there. I like this.
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Yeah, I cool, cool,
I do or I do not like this.
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Thank you very much, Dude.
They say that upside. What's that
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was it? Maybe an upside is, though, that you you at least
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get to like eliminate like maybe some
of that elimination is good. You know
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what I mean? We're like you
don't have to date as many people because
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you can go. Well, they're
they're not even worth taking out. Because
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I know this is going to be
a problem because, you know, in
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my might be something non superficial.
I mean it might be, you know,
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like forget about, like if they
you think they're a bad person on
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twitter. But even just like,
oh, they don't want to have kids,
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and I do like. So eliminated
are you know, maybe that's an
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easy thing. If that's if they
talk about that in their social media or
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something. But so, maybe there's
some I'm sure there's some upsides, no
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doubt, but like with everything.
But I also would regret not not mentioning
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there is another line in the song
that I hate, but not because no,
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tell us no, not fine,
not because it's bad, but because
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at the end of the song he
says and guys that just don't quite fit
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in. Yeah, do you like
them? And every time it brings me
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out of the song and I think
of green eggs in ham every freaking time.
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See, I think that's your own
problem. Maybe that is, but's
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a kyle problem. This is saying
something more about kyle the yeah, but
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it like that Ab I think.
But it's now my problem and you're problem.
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Like yeah, everyone's listenings problem,
because that's all we're ever going to
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hear. Yet it every time it
like it's like jarring, like what the
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heck is this? Sam I am
singing the song. Can you have blake
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draw like Chris Krava in the style
of Dr Seus? Yeah, sure,
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I'm sure. Seems like this is
a no brainer. Whip that up like
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other blake that did our podcast are
way because I act I'm not a good
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artist, but blake barons is.
I'd okay. So can I even out
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with a line? I really do
like. Yeah, that okay. Yeah,
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since you guys. Hey, I
love the song. Yeah, hate
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a couple lines in it. That's
okay, I love the like and maybe
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my friend and your friend'll hit it
off or maybe. Oh yeah, yeah,
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that's such a great that is absolutely
a line I would have tried to
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use, like hey, I'm trying
to we're trying to get our friends together,
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but really, I maybe rink go
in, but maybe we could.
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You know, that's absolutely something I
would have tried. I'm sure. I'm
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sure everybody has a story. I'm
just I can't remember an ex specific but
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when you when you try to make
that work and it didn't work, like
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you and somebody would hit it off. Oh Yeah, you try your friends
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together and they would just be like
oil of water. Whoo yeah, Nice.
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Yeah, try to make it through
a movie or something like that.
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00:28:52.430 --> 00:28:56.420
Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm
not. I was never very good at
409
00:28:56.500 --> 00:29:00.819
playing cupid with people. I don't
think I probably ever successfully did so.
410
00:29:02.180 --> 00:29:04.140
At least. Likes to take credit
for a lots of our friends relationships,
411
00:29:04.220 --> 00:29:07.819
though, so I don't know if
it that really matters or not. But
412
00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:14.130
Oh, you know that we talked
about. So impossible a surprising amount.
413
00:29:14.569 --> 00:30:03.220
Let's go to remember to breathe.
PUNIC. I love this song. I
414
00:30:03.460 --> 00:30:10.250
think it's just got a great droning
four chord kind of thing going on without
415
00:30:10.450 --> 00:30:15.089
being boring. I mean it's pretty
short, but it's great song. I
416
00:30:15.250 --> 00:30:21.089
love it. Very few lyrics,
kind of all drawn out a kind of
417
00:30:21.210 --> 00:30:23.759
it does such a good job of
building the anticipation for the next song.
418
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.960
That's really what this song's purposes is, just like building that. It's literally
419
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.720
like the whole thing is a build. Kind of into hands down, and
420
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.750
I think it's genius, and that's
why it's like a crime almost to not
421
00:30:37.869 --> 00:30:41.509
listen to these four songs back to
back to back. Yeah, they are
422
00:30:41.549 --> 00:30:45.630
all really good songs and I do
like listening to them, but I really
423
00:30:45.630 --> 00:30:49.099
want to hear them in this order
because it really does I don't know,
424
00:30:49.259 --> 00:30:53.819
it just it works really well.
Kyle Ward thoughts, man, I completely
425
00:30:53.859 --> 00:31:00.579
agree. Like this song makes hands
down a better song. Yeah, the
426
00:31:00.859 --> 00:31:06.049
fact the the line remember to breathe
him just going on such a then love
427
00:31:06.210 --> 00:31:10.809
first line of hands down, breathe
in. Yep, like it's so good,
428
00:31:10.890 --> 00:31:15.609
like I freaking love that. Yeah, also, very emo, oh
429
00:31:15.849 --> 00:31:19.599
for sure. Sorry, we had
not mentioned that on this on this podcast
430
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:26.359
tonight. Yeah, it's very emo. And then also I get this vibe
431
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.720
on this song where which which is
not easy to pull off, we're like
432
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.990
maybe this dude is, maybe Chris. This dude like I don't know who
433
00:31:33.990 --> 00:31:40.390
he is. Maybe Chris Graba,
I missed to cut up. Is is
434
00:31:40.589 --> 00:31:45.470
hurt? He never hears this.
Maybe he's like it's possible that he's just
435
00:31:45.670 --> 00:31:48.900
riffing in the studio on this.
You know what I mean? Oh,
436
00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:51.660
like vocally, yes, like,
Oh, I think. I think that's
437
00:31:51.700 --> 00:31:53.819
a strong possible. He just he
just went for it. But but it
438
00:31:55.460 --> 00:32:00.809
works because you feel it, you
know, like he's being genuine. Yes,
439
00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:06.089
love it and I love the he's
really good at the long note hold
440
00:32:07.089 --> 00:32:09.970
with emotions and I don't know how
you could do more than like a couple
441
00:32:10.130 --> 00:32:15.049
takes like that. Yeah, we're
that would give that. You'RE gonna have
442
00:32:15.089 --> 00:32:20.359
keep those quick at least. Yeah, and I definitely, you know,
443
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:25.279
between him and Steven Tyler, was
majorly influenced into doing that kind of crap.
444
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.309
And because you know, everyone likes
that that when you do that live
445
00:32:30.430 --> 00:32:35.829
nut, it's like if you can
hit a note and hold it for more
446
00:32:35.950 --> 00:32:38.710
than one bar, people are like, oh my goodness, this is like
447
00:32:38.829 --> 00:32:44.339
I just have lung compasiony, just
clapping for lung capacity essentially. But yeah,
448
00:32:44.500 --> 00:32:46.299
but I like it. Yeah,
and some of my favorite you know,
449
00:32:46.339 --> 00:32:52.579
we talked about how I have a
gives me chills playlist. Most of
450
00:32:52.660 --> 00:32:55.380
them are songs were someone's holding a
really long note, you know. It's
451
00:32:55.420 --> 00:33:00.569
like that Muse Song where he holds
that note for forever or county crows,
452
00:33:00.650 --> 00:33:04.730
dude a. But I just love
it. And so this one definitely is
453
00:33:04.849 --> 00:33:12.049
in that list of great long note
holding performances that create song, where he
454
00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:19.519
just holds out that note. Is
that about? That he did? Why?
455
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:24.400
Why? We can't even get through
a four song episode without someone mentioning
456
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:30.869
a terrible late, these early two
thousand butt rock band. I mean is
457
00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:32.990
you were talking about, like,
not me. I was not talking about
458
00:33:34.029 --> 00:33:36.750
creed. I was talking about specifically
men should create. What you mean?
459
00:33:36.789 --> 00:33:39.190
You were in a roundabout way,
like you, you're so about. You
460
00:33:39.269 --> 00:33:43.660
were egging him on. It was
obviously you were setting me up. Picture
461
00:33:43.779 --> 00:33:45.500
that. That was done with a
computer, though. Someone took a little
462
00:33:45.500 --> 00:33:50.900
chunk and just want I'm just seeing
some of the mouse, just like nick
463
00:33:51.019 --> 00:33:53.740
dragging it out, and it's a
night. Yeah, I think he got
464
00:33:53.859 --> 00:33:58.769
some help on that one. I
think Chris Kraba did this live one hundred
465
00:33:58.769 --> 00:34:00.650
and ten a too. Yeah,
and a closet through his head, through
466
00:34:00.769 --> 00:34:05.809
his headphones down and was like I'm
done. It's a masterpiece. Yeah,
467
00:34:07.450 --> 00:34:09.480
that's the story that I tell myself
in my head. Chris, you have
468
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.440
not talked about remember to breathe yet. Ride we got off on a tangent.
469
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.400
What are your thoughts on river to
breathe? I love this song and
470
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:21.280
I'll tell you why. It's because
here's a guy who's like straddling the line
471
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:25.789
at this very moment between being well
known in many circles but probably not recognized
472
00:34:25.829 --> 00:34:30.710
if he walks through like a,
you know, an airport by a lot
473
00:34:30.750 --> 00:34:36.110
of people, to being famous,
like straight up famous, famous, famous,
474
00:34:36.469 --> 00:34:39.659
and I think he probably at least
has been told this by somebody at
475
00:34:39.699 --> 00:34:43.579
this point, like maybe his manager, Rich Richie, again, some you
476
00:34:43.659 --> 00:34:45.420
people, like he's getting a lot
of money through in his way and he's
477
00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:52.449
still adorably vapping biker. Very shortly
after this buys half are sorry, not
478
00:34:52.489 --> 00:34:58.250
vagrant. Interscope buys forty nine percent
of vagrant right after this or around this
479
00:34:58.409 --> 00:35:00.809
time, and I think homeboy had
something to do with that. Yeah,
480
00:35:00.889 --> 00:35:04.610
so, but for him to it's
kind of endearing to meet it, for
481
00:35:04.690 --> 00:35:07.559
somebody who's like basically on top of
the world, you know, trying to
482
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:12.239
tell himself to remember to breathe on
a date with a pretty girl, I
483
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:15.800
don't know, it's that part of
that part of me makes it extra sweet.
484
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.519
So I always say it was a
shame. It is a sweet song.
485
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:22.949
It is. It's very sweet and
he knows what's paying the bills.
486
00:35:23.630 --> 00:35:27.230
He knows what kind of songs are
paying the bills. Dude. I found
487
00:35:27.309 --> 00:35:34.510
this old forum when this song came
out and everybody like talking about it,
488
00:35:34.670 --> 00:35:37.940
like they're like he is the most
brilliant songwriter of our generation, about this
489
00:35:37.059 --> 00:35:40.780
song, like people in two thousand
and one are crazy, and I was
490
00:35:40.820 --> 00:35:45.380
laughing myself, like you people are
all like a countants and like yeah,
491
00:35:45.500 --> 00:35:49.739
he's like running the world, and
they were like he is literally better than
492
00:35:49.780 --> 00:35:53.210
John Lennon, no doubt, full
stop. That's the old statement. I
493
00:35:53.289 --> 00:35:58.409
think he's great too, and I
do think he defined if you were like
494
00:35:58.570 --> 00:36:04.360
a sophomore to junior in high school
or Sophomore to senior in high school in
495
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.960
two thousand and one too. Well, I mean called a five year range,
496
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:12.559
if you were at the time,
you know, in that little age
497
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:16.239
range. That would be everyone for
and for every I promise you, for
498
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:21.789
every CD he sold, there were
there were ten that were burned. Like
499
00:36:22.030 --> 00:36:25.469
yeah, I mean that ratio has
to be at least that, because we
500
00:36:25.590 --> 00:36:29.590
looked at the numbers for like the
places you have come to fear the note
501
00:36:29.710 --> 00:36:31.900
most and it didn't even go gold. Yeah, I don't think right.
502
00:36:32.179 --> 00:36:37.300
And like everyone I knew had that
record. I mean yeah, and if
503
00:36:37.380 --> 00:36:39.619
they had, we talked about that. Did we did. It went platinum
504
00:36:39.659 --> 00:36:43.739
by burn. And this one the
same thing. This one's the same thing.
505
00:36:43.940 --> 00:36:50.050
Everyone knew hands down before it was
on Mark Commission brain of scar everyone
506
00:36:50.090 --> 00:36:52.690
had heard this version that I knew. And now keep in mind we,
507
00:36:52.809 --> 00:36:54.849
I. We obviously ran around people
that were in bands and went to shows
508
00:36:54.889 --> 00:36:59.769
and so that they were very much
I was in a bubble, for sure,
509
00:37:00.530 --> 00:37:02.960
but like I was also in high
school at the time hanging out with
510
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.480
a lot of people that weren't in
that scene and they also liked this.
511
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:10.079
So yeah, yeah, he was
pretty popular at the time and and yeah,
512
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.440
it's a great song and I don't
think you know, maybe a little
513
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:19.989
overhype to say, John Lennon,
but still definitely in the s there weren't
514
00:37:19.989 --> 00:37:25.590
a lot of people competing very strongly
with that kind of well, I mean
515
00:37:25.670 --> 00:37:29.469
no, you know, it's great. was great as the old forums.
516
00:37:29.510 --> 00:37:31.340
They didn't have threaded comments, so
like if somebody disagreed with you, they'd
517
00:37:31.340 --> 00:37:35.099
be like nine comments down, like
hey, about five up, oh,
518
00:37:36.219 --> 00:37:38.340
but kick her fifty eight. I
disagree. And let me tell you why?
519
00:37:38.659 --> 00:37:43.300
My point is you couldn't. Yeah, there was not thready comments in
520
00:37:43.420 --> 00:37:46.969
case. I think that you're wrong. Kyl. You mentioned creed and that's
521
00:37:47.849 --> 00:37:52.730
in they are not maybe the best
example, but a lot of what was
522
00:37:52.809 --> 00:37:59.639
going on was not. There was
not a lot of honesty in in popular
523
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:04.320
music. In two thousand and one. It was all the boy bands kind
524
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:08.480
of starting to that that pop thing, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, backstreet
525
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.429
boys in sync, and then the
other side of the coin was like creed
526
00:38:13.670 --> 00:38:15.989
and freaking limp biscuit and that kind
of stuff. Like there was not.
527
00:38:16.590 --> 00:38:22.469
It was a lot of performative nonsense
in two thousand and one and and and
528
00:38:22.590 --> 00:38:27.699
dashboard felt like a like a kind
of like an honest thing and it was
529
00:38:27.739 --> 00:38:31.460
enough between the punk rock kind of
thing and and somehow he threaded a needle
530
00:38:31.579 --> 00:38:36.699
where like, like guys and girls
both liked dashboard professional for some reason,
531
00:38:37.420 --> 00:38:40.610
and it and really what. In
a lot of the other things that were
532
00:38:40.650 --> 00:38:44.409
going on, that didn't seem to
be the case, except for hip hop.
533
00:38:44.610 --> 00:38:45.769
That was the thing that I felt
like everyone kind of liked, like
534
00:38:45.889 --> 00:38:51.409
RN being hiphop and stuff in early
s. But Anyway, be fair to
535
00:38:51.449 --> 00:38:53.170
all of us tread and looking that, I mean boys two men, was
536
00:38:54.010 --> 00:38:58.239
fire back then. Oh, absolutely, of course boys men's a little before
537
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:02.800
that where they're murdering. But no, I love boys men. I'm not
538
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:06.800
dogging on that at all. I'm
just saying that. But boys demand had
539
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.150
way more female fans than male fans. That is true. We felt.
540
00:39:10.230 --> 00:39:13.630
Yeah, yeah, I went to
their concert. I felt a little weird.
541
00:39:13.630 --> 00:39:16.389
Yeah, it's might not. I
was call I would go with my
542
00:39:16.510 --> 00:39:22.510
wife, but I wouldn't go with
you. Does that makes sense? Like
543
00:39:22.630 --> 00:39:27.900
this is weird with Chris. I
think we should go with their vegas,
544
00:39:28.019 --> 00:39:30.739
their veggest show, and then go
backstage and meet them together. Just I
545
00:39:30.780 --> 00:39:32.300
would do it. I would love
to see boys two men. Just for
546
00:39:32.420 --> 00:39:37.539
the record, I think they're the
original and the best boy band since.
547
00:39:37.650 --> 00:39:42.489
I mean I think ever. I
think they're I grew best. Okay,
548
00:39:43.409 --> 00:39:45.730
and if you haven't watched that,
oh yeah, I was thinking the same
549
00:39:45.809 --> 00:39:51.610
thing. Netflix show about based in
your recommendation. It's a wonderful it's not.
550
00:39:51.769 --> 00:39:53.559
You do. If you if you
thought you hated just Justin Timber,
551
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:58.199
like you're really a yeah, I'll
just hate them. You'll hate him so
552
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:02.239
much. Well, and and well
in specifically, like realize the genius of
553
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:07.150
what they did in the early s
to be like the wet like, you
554
00:40:07.230 --> 00:40:10.389
know, we're people are like,
you know, old white ladies were like
555
00:40:10.590 --> 00:40:15.309
scared of hiphop and that kind of
stuff going on. They're like no,
556
00:40:15.389 --> 00:40:16.670
we're going to come out here,
we're going to dress it and be in
557
00:40:16.789 --> 00:40:21.739
matching suits and we're going to have
seventy year old fans and we're going to
558
00:40:21.820 --> 00:40:25.099
yeah, ten year old fans,
like and they nailed it. They did
559
00:40:25.179 --> 00:40:30.940
an amazing job of having it like
one of the widest fan bases in the
560
00:40:30.980 --> 00:40:32.820
world. Anyway, watch that episode
on Netflix. It's awesome. All right.
561
00:40:34.139 --> 00:41:01.639
Last track is the aforementioned hands down
to break up the first day down
562
00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:23.659
straight. But, Chris Money,
we're going to you first because you were
563
00:41:23.699 --> 00:41:28.539
are drumming somehow, even though they
weren't any drums, you were doing them.
564
00:41:28.860 --> 00:41:36.010
The drums come later. Yeah,
the next album, guys, that
565
00:41:36.250 --> 00:41:38.449
that piece of that song that you
played might be one of my favorite pieces
566
00:41:38.570 --> 00:41:43.130
of any it's all good. Yeah, and I have to say this version
567
00:41:43.250 --> 00:41:50.880
is especially special for me that there's
something so amazing about the lyrics he singing
568
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.679
and how it's just so uplifting and
it makes you feel like you're right there
569
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:57.559
and that feeling when you're young and
you're on a date and things are going
570
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.909
well, it's it's great. Yeah, I mean I think you're absolutely right.
571
00:42:00.989 --> 00:42:06.590
It basically you mentioned a couple songs
ago on so impossible kind of catching
572
00:42:06.630 --> 00:42:12.230
a feeling one even just kind of
the whole thing, but this one definitely
573
00:42:12.269 --> 00:42:17.659
has a feeling to it. It
does remind me of those early dates,
574
00:42:21.179 --> 00:42:22.300
you know, some of which didn't
really go anywhere, but you hung out
575
00:42:22.340 --> 00:42:27.780
with someone kind of all night or
whatever, and and and you figured out
576
00:42:27.820 --> 00:42:30.010
if it was worth going forward or
not. And Right, and sometimes it
577
00:42:30.090 --> 00:42:34.650
was and sometimes it was it.
And this is all kind of those kind
578
00:42:34.650 --> 00:42:37.730
of things you do. We didn't
have money, see, right, got
579
00:42:37.809 --> 00:42:39.969
a run around town. You know, it's like it was going well.
580
00:42:40.010 --> 00:42:43.449
You would just like keep it going. Go to where we go next?
581
00:42:43.570 --> 00:42:45.280
Yeah, we go to waffle house
or something like. However you had to
582
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:49.559
do to just not to let it
not stop. Yeah, yeah, and
583
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.760
he just nailed it. Just really
captured that feeling, like he put it
584
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.119
in a bottle, but he put
it in this, in the song.
585
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.670
So, Kyle, what are your
thoughts on hands down, man, I
586
00:43:00.789 --> 00:43:04.469
completely agree with you guys, and
I'm just thinking, like I'm in that
587
00:43:04.630 --> 00:43:08.309
place and the time on the clock
when we realize it's too are, it's
588
00:43:08.389 --> 00:43:14.019
so late. Like yeah, you, I am immediately in a place of
589
00:43:14.059 --> 00:43:16.820
my mind and, like you,
didn't want those times to end because they
590
00:43:16.860 --> 00:43:23.699
were real, they were authentic,
like it was just so awesome to be
591
00:43:23.820 --> 00:43:28.809
having, I don't know, an
authentic moment with with someone else. And
592
00:43:30.130 --> 00:43:36.289
and Dude, the this whole outro
where he's just going off is just nailing
593
00:43:36.329 --> 00:43:40.210
it. It gives me goosebumps every
time, and I think Chris, you
594
00:43:40.329 --> 00:43:45.800
mentioned it this time and the last
time, like it's like I can smell
595
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:51.360
the air, like I am.
It's this is a freaking time machine for
596
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:57.349
me, man, like listening to
it, it's so weird how how much
597
00:43:57.349 --> 00:44:00.309
I like it. Makes me feel
young when I listened to it, in
598
00:44:00.909 --> 00:44:04.550
a wonderful way, not in like
a yeah, not in like a you
599
00:44:04.630 --> 00:44:13.739
know, not not not like in
sync. Makes you feel young, you
600
00:44:13.820 --> 00:44:17.179
know what I mean, like like
yeah, it's not like, oh,
601
00:44:17.300 --> 00:44:20.860
that just happened a long time a
go. Yeah, makes you feel like
602
00:44:20.980 --> 00:44:24.329
you felt when you listened it doesn't
not, it doesn't it doesn't feel juvenile.
603
00:44:24.530 --> 00:44:30.329
It feels it makes you feel,
it makes you feel invigorated. You
604
00:44:30.409 --> 00:44:34.570
know. Yeah, but you know
you mentioned the you mentioned the dating thing
605
00:44:34.730 --> 00:44:38.760
earlier and and I maybe how social
media's change that. I mean I think
606
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:44.440
this is another good example of I've
mentioned this, I think on the podcast
607
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:47.159
before. My wife has younger siblings
and so, you know, they're like
608
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.840
nineteen, tod and twenty three or
whatever, and then I've got younger cousins,
609
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:52.989
you know, my cousins that have
their kids that are, you know,
610
00:44:53.030 --> 00:44:55.349
dating, getting married and that kind
of age range and stuff, and
611
00:44:55.429 --> 00:44:59.630
it seems like a lot of them
don't like they don't get their license when
612
00:44:59.670 --> 00:45:02.510
they turn sixteen. They don't seem
to hang out, and I was trying
613
00:45:02.510 --> 00:45:07.340
to like discuss this with them,
my wife's siblings, because I was just
614
00:45:07.380 --> 00:45:12.659
like what is is that you guys
hang out on your phones like and feel
615
00:45:12.699 --> 00:45:16.219
like you get that social interaction because, like we couldn't like wait to get
616
00:45:16.219 --> 00:45:20.139
out of the house because I didn't
have a FI. I could I could
617
00:45:20.139 --> 00:45:22.690
do Alans to messenger, which is
definitely something I did late at night all
618
00:45:22.730 --> 00:45:28.090
the time with my buddies and girls
and stuff like that, but it didn't
619
00:45:28.090 --> 00:45:30.610
replace hanging out with people in person. And this is just like a song
620
00:45:30.690 --> 00:45:36.239
about hang out with someone in person
for hours, not like a single person.
621
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:38.440
And maybe I don't maybe that is
still going on. I'm sure it
622
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.719
does, but it does. It
seems like the group stuff happens less a
623
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:45.559
lot of times, with the generation
just kind of right below us. And
624
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:51.389
but I wonder about that. I'm
never going to sound more old than yeah,
625
00:45:51.469 --> 00:45:55.469
no, we sound like sound a
drinky but but anneals, I and
626
00:45:55.590 --> 00:45:59.789
I'll never find this article, but
I read something while back that was talking
627
00:45:59.869 --> 00:46:05.460
about for all of us included,
not just young people, but phones are
628
00:46:05.780 --> 00:46:09.260
boredom passifiers, like we don't know
how to be bored anymore or to go
629
00:46:09.300 --> 00:46:14.900
out on an adventure, because these
things are pacifying us at all times,
630
00:46:15.059 --> 00:46:20.809
and and and like. That's that's
definitely what I remember. Is Like,
631
00:46:20.889 --> 00:46:22.369
man, I'm gonna go get into
some trouble, and I didn't even mean
632
00:46:22.489 --> 00:46:24.889
trouble, you know, like I'm
gonna go find something to do back then
633
00:46:25.010 --> 00:46:29.090
and right. Yeah, and you
did it with your friends or you would
634
00:46:29.090 --> 00:46:32.880
go. You maybe meet up with
a GAL and go on a date.
635
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.880
It was awesome. A Gal and
yeah, meet up to yeah, Damn,
636
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:43.679
I was stacked up a day.
Yeah, because, like on a
637
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:45.639
Friday night, wouldn't we just like, wouldn't you just like start calling people?
638
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:47.949
Yeah, totally. Yeah, I
think that's how worked, right,
639
00:46:47.949 --> 00:46:50.789
like I would just called Blake,
hey, you have to anything tonight?
640
00:46:50.829 --> 00:46:53.190
You're out. Which Chili's we were
going to? If, and like if,
641
00:46:53.230 --> 00:46:55.429
I meant if art, if we
all one time we'd end up at
642
00:46:55.429 --> 00:46:59.829
Jenna's house, like we all played
a show, like we we'd eat.
643
00:46:59.909 --> 00:47:00.820
You know, that was just yeah, it was like, yeah, we're
644
00:47:00.820 --> 00:47:07.099
going. I hoped. I hops
the this is getting worse. I hop
645
00:47:07.179 --> 00:47:12.059
that with a Gal. How's that? PANCAKES or beverly's? You membory?
646
00:47:12.820 --> 00:47:15.730
Beverly's? Yeah, I was a
staple. All those places have food that
647
00:47:15.849 --> 00:47:19.690
was just good enough that everyone was
like, okay, yeah, I'll pay
648
00:47:19.769 --> 00:47:22.050
for it. You know, that's
fine. We all agree. That's fine.
649
00:47:22.090 --> 00:47:24.050
They've got a big menu. That's
like why. It's like Chili's was
650
00:47:24.130 --> 00:47:27.690
just the most agreeable place we could
all find a go. Yeah, and
651
00:47:27.809 --> 00:47:30.880
I'm wee sorry to the waiters and
waitresses. I'm sure I did not tip
652
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.199
you guys enough. I think I
did fine, I did my best.
653
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:37.400
I had to pay to I had
gave him what I could. YEA,
654
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:39.239
to make up for it. Now, I'm sorry, guys. Yeah,
655
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:42.639
we were young and for I think. I think we treated them. Okay,
656
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.670
I don't think. Yeah, I
mean how much you tip on eating?
657
00:47:45.750 --> 00:47:47.429
Now? That's what all you can
eat chips and salsa for five hours.
658
00:47:47.750 --> 00:47:51.030
That's exactly what I'm getting out.
I'm not saying that I didn't tip
659
00:47:51.150 --> 00:47:52.989
like the twenty percent. I'm saying
that you know, you're there for order
660
00:47:53.110 --> 00:47:59.699
like six Margaritas and you know not
choke ladder. It was like so,
661
00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:01.179
I'm not twelve, but can I
order off the kids menues? Okay,
662
00:48:01.260 --> 00:48:06.579
yeah, I just picture you doing
the endless chips and salsa for a dollar
663
00:48:06.659 --> 00:48:09.300
ninety nine back then and like,
you know what, this is a thirty
664
00:48:09.380 --> 00:48:14.010
percent tip. Yeah, yeah,
I'm beat, Kendrick. I don't know
665
00:48:14.050 --> 00:48:17.730
if Matt Kinderg ever paid for a
meal at Chili's, because not like you
666
00:48:17.889 --> 00:48:21.409
skipped the tab, like he just
sat there and waited for other people to
667
00:48:21.449 --> 00:48:24.210
finish their meal and then just ate
off their plate. Look, I don't
668
00:48:24.210 --> 00:48:30.239
know that he ever actually paid for
a dinner there when we were that age.
669
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:36.159
But yeah, I mean this song's
great and I back to back to
670
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:38.159
what we were actually going about.
You about here bringing it back whole sir,
671
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:44.590
I do remember specifically think about this
song a it was awesome. Everyone
672
00:48:44.670 --> 00:48:47.550
loved it. It was really exciting. And then I go see him and
673
00:48:47.710 --> 00:48:53.789
Weezer play on my my birthday in
two thousand and two and so I guess
674
00:48:53.829 --> 00:49:00.059
that's my nineteen birthday, and he
plays this full band electric and this is
675
00:49:00.219 --> 00:49:05.099
obviously pre markommission. Brandon scar coming
out doesn't come out for a year or
676
00:49:05.099 --> 00:49:10.050
two or something. And I mean
it was this sounds ironic or cheesy.
677
00:49:10.050 --> 00:49:15.650
It was like electrifying. It really
was. It was like special and and
678
00:49:15.849 --> 00:49:19.610
lesser. It sounds like some of
the people, you know, Kyle,
679
00:49:19.610 --> 00:49:23.599
would have said it was like they're
dylan moment going electric or something. I'm
680
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.559
not going to go that far,
but it was really cool, especially because
681
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.559
I think this song, as good
as it is on this Epi do really
682
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.320
like it. I really do like
the full band version. I think it
683
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.030
has even more power to it and
stuff. It is also freaking punk rock.
684
00:49:38.110 --> 00:49:40.750
I don't know that I mentioned that. Holy Crap. The freaking guitar
685
00:49:40.909 --> 00:49:46.269
part in the Intros just awesome.
It's really cool and I just I really
686
00:49:46.349 --> 00:49:51.469
like that it. They ramped it
up. Sometimes it's hard to do the
687
00:49:51.630 --> 00:49:53.579
like. You know, places you've
come to fear the most. Had A
688
00:49:53.619 --> 00:49:58.340
couple songs that were on Swiss Army
Romance and they had to kind of do
689
00:49:58.460 --> 00:50:02.139
the full band thing and they they
kind of ramped them up. They changed
690
00:50:02.179 --> 00:50:07.170
him, but but not a ton
really. On. Yeah, on.
691
00:50:07.409 --> 00:50:09.610
What's the other what's the song?
I mean screaming in fidelities. Obviously drums,
692
00:50:09.650 --> 00:50:15.250
but whatever. The other song was
supposed I'm just totally drew blank on
693
00:50:15.329 --> 00:50:19.010
it. But they changed about but
this one they really changed it up.
694
00:50:19.010 --> 00:50:22.079
Oh Yeah, and I'm sure that
was interscope going like you have to put
695
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:24.400
this song on the next full length
record. I mean that's why we're buying
696
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:29.440
forty nine percent of vagrant. Is
interscope going like we want? We you
697
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.199
know, which is funny because back
then when I was talking to labels,
698
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:36.630
I talked to someone interscope and they
were like he like was really down on
699
00:50:36.789 --> 00:50:39.510
dashboard and I was like your label
just bought half a vagrant to get him
700
00:50:40.110 --> 00:50:44.190
like you're the only person at your
label that's not at least you don't to
701
00:50:44.269 --> 00:50:49.829
like his music, but like someone's
excited to sell some records, for sure.
702
00:50:50.019 --> 00:50:53.980
But yeah, it's a great song
and and I like both versions of
703
00:50:54.099 --> 00:50:58.500
it. And normally when someone does
some sort of thing like this, I
704
00:50:58.539 --> 00:51:00.900
end up liking one way more than
the other, but it is kind of
705
00:51:00.980 --> 00:51:05.329
they're both really good. I'd feel
the same way it. There's not one
706
00:51:05.369 --> 00:51:07.010
I like more than the other.
I mean it's almost I don't know.
707
00:51:07.650 --> 00:51:10.969
Yeah, I'm I agree to you
hundred percent of that. I'll just like
708
00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:15.130
both versions. YEA, and this
one makes me more nostalgic. Yeah,
709
00:51:15.369 --> 00:51:17.530
he did a guitar throw at the
end of it too. It was pretty
710
00:51:17.530 --> 00:51:22.159
Boler Nice. So yeah, anyway. And then I think just was a
711
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:31.199
good little ramp up to this song, becomes the probably the bigger introduction for
712
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.829
most of his fans going forward.
Yep, anythink like absolutely, because he's
713
00:51:36.829 --> 00:51:38.429
getting pretty big at the time.
But this is right. He ends this
714
00:51:38.550 --> 00:51:42.269
part of his career with the song
and then begins the next chapter with the
715
00:51:42.309 --> 00:51:45.309
same song. Yeah, with full
band. Yeah, no, it's kind
716
00:51:45.309 --> 00:51:46.900
of I don't know, it was
it was poetic. I don't know if
717
00:51:46.940 --> 00:51:51.139
it was all planned out, but
it was brilliant and I also wonder if
718
00:51:51.139 --> 00:51:53.860
it was a thing like that he
resisted. You know, a lot of
719
00:51:53.940 --> 00:51:58.900
times when you're an artist cranking out
that much music, you probably kind to
720
00:51:58.940 --> 00:52:00.980
go like I already had to do
that on my last album, or I
721
00:52:00.019 --> 00:52:05.010
had to include a song from a
previous thing. But there's no way he
722
00:52:05.050 --> 00:52:07.289
didn't know that this wasn't something's bad, like, this is something special.
723
00:52:07.329 --> 00:52:10.929
You should really we really need a
full band version on the next record to
724
00:52:12.010 --> 00:52:14.730
kick it off, and I think
it was a wise choice, because it
725
00:52:14.849 --> 00:52:17.519
the other versions really great too.
Okay, lasting impressions, I think we
726
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.840
obviously think it holds up right,
guys. I mean it takes going back
727
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.760
to that spot, but it's still
also really good. Yep. It's unfair
728
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.320
to do it. Is this their
best album, because it's hard to compare
729
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.829
an EP. It's a lot easier
to write four songs that are good then
730
00:52:31.869 --> 00:52:36.349
it is to right ten to twelve. So I don't think it's even fair.
731
00:52:36.429 --> 00:52:38.670
But it's definitely his best EP.
It's that fair? Oh, completely
732
00:52:38.710 --> 00:52:45.460
agree. His his best short,
Short version rock opera. Yeah, by
733
00:52:45.579 --> 00:52:50.820
far. Yeah, for sure.
Here's where it's tricky. Is it their
734
00:52:50.860 --> 00:52:52.579
most important album? The reason this
is a fun question is because of the
735
00:52:52.619 --> 00:52:57.099
conversation we just had about like this
song is technically really important for him,
736
00:52:57.099 --> 00:53:00.530
but it's not necessarily this version of
the song. But I don't know,
737
00:53:00.650 --> 00:53:05.329
I think that without writing this,
obviously you wonder what happens with the next
738
00:53:05.329 --> 00:53:07.449
record because hands down was the biggest
single from it. Right, there was
739
00:53:08.210 --> 00:53:12.449
no doubt. Yeah, I mean
until the indicated came out on which was
740
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:16.199
they now lump in with Mark Mission
Brain of scar. But it was Oh,
741
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:19.360
do the on the spider man sound? Yeah, like I've got the
742
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:21.920
final and it's on the vinyl.
Okay, but yeah, but it was
743
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:23.440
technically a one off at the time. Yeah, it was just on the
744
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:27.869
spider man too soundtrack, but that
becomes a pretty big hit for him too.
745
00:53:28.150 --> 00:53:32.510
But or was that in between?
Now I'm getting that timeline mixed up.
746
00:53:32.630 --> 00:53:37.630
No, that would have been spidermans
who came out before mark mission brain
747
00:53:37.710 --> 00:53:43.460
of scar. I think. Yeah, I've got time for yeah, Oh,
748
00:53:43.539 --> 00:53:47.059
it was it. Did Mark Mission
Brain Scar come out? We should
749
00:53:47.059 --> 00:53:50.699
have done this research before we recorded
the pocket two thousand and two. I
750
00:53:50.820 --> 00:53:52.619
think two thousand and two, I
think. Oh, spider man two did
751
00:53:53.099 --> 00:53:55.409
no, Spiderman two came out two
thousand and four. Yeah, Mark,
752
00:53:55.489 --> 00:53:59.730
Missi brainscard definitely didn't come out in
two thousand and two. Oh, it
753
00:53:59.809 --> 00:54:01.250
was later, eight thousand and three. Yeah, I think two thousand and
754
00:54:01.250 --> 00:54:04.929
three. That's how that's pretty sure
the timeline I think it came out on.
755
00:54:05.050 --> 00:54:07.409
So we're probably wrong, mission brand, anyone could just look this thousand
756
00:54:07.449 --> 00:54:10.400
and three. Yeah, okay,
so I was right about that order.
757
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:14.440
So those are two pretty big singles. So I don't know, it's definitely
758
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:17.000
not his best selling or probably most
people don't know it exists. That knew
759
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:20.840
the next thing existed. So it's
probably not this most important either. What
760
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:24.269
you were what you were saying,
like it's on the dusk and summer.
761
00:54:25.190 --> 00:54:29.469
Oh, you're right, it is
dusk and summer, not mark mission.
762
00:54:29.710 --> 00:54:31.989
Yeah, that's weird. Yeah,
okay, that's that I was trying to
763
00:54:32.030 --> 00:54:36.710
get, because it was in between
the two. Okay, and so then
764
00:54:36.710 --> 00:54:39.500
the next release they just put it
on. That's one where the covery he's
765
00:54:39.539 --> 00:54:42.940
like on the beach. Yep,
you're right. Okay, I had that
766
00:54:42.980 --> 00:54:45.900
backwards. That's why I was confused. Well, it was in between.
767
00:54:45.980 --> 00:54:51.579
Yeah, we're not going to really
do desert island songs the way we normally
768
00:54:51.619 --> 00:54:53.530
do, because obviously, if you
picked two or three, also quispe,
769
00:54:53.809 --> 00:54:57.889
you get to pick one, pick
one song that you keep with you.
770
00:54:58.010 --> 00:55:02.969
Kyle. I mean it's got to
be hands down. Chris, I'm going
771
00:55:04.050 --> 00:55:09.800
so impossible. Gosh. I think
I don't do hands down, because I
772
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:15.280
think I'd actually then just take the
mark commission brand of scars, one of
773
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:19.199
my three from that record. It's
that's not place. I think he's okay,
774
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:21.869
that's not the spirit. Now,
that's not on the spirit of the
775
00:55:21.949 --> 00:55:30.389
exercide. Okay, I think you're
probably right. I think it's really hard
776
00:55:30.510 --> 00:55:32.030
on this one. If I really
have to ways like one, I think
777
00:55:32.070 --> 00:55:36.980
it might be remembered to breathe for
me. I just really like that son.
778
00:55:37.099 --> 00:55:38.059
I can't. I know it in
this song of the Moss. Here's
779
00:55:38.059 --> 00:55:43.820
hands down, though I know I
was less sounds like. HMM, yeah,
780
00:55:44.059 --> 00:55:46.659
yeah, you're right. I mean
I couldn't. I mean this is
781
00:55:46.699 --> 00:55:50.929
your list, like so I know
it's mine. I've got a really pick
782
00:55:51.010 --> 00:55:53.730
it as we really went out.
No, you, no, that's not
783
00:55:53.929 --> 00:56:01.050
yours. You can't do that.
That's not your opinion. How about nobody's
784
00:56:01.090 --> 00:56:05.719
perfect. Is there is their worst
song and this four track ep no,
785
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:09.320
never, me. No, since
it's such a concert solidated amount of time.
786
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:13.199
Can Give me a com in Kyle
to say there's a worse line and
787
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.760
we okay, that's fair. Yeah, because we basically third, I'll cut
788
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:21.510
that line out. Yeah, there
we go. That's that's what you okay.
789
00:56:22.190 --> 00:56:24.510
What about growing out of show?
Or is there something you didn't maybe
790
00:56:24.750 --> 00:56:28.949
like at first? I mean wasn't
for me, but I like that was
791
00:56:28.989 --> 00:56:32.260
saying. Yeah, all in okay. Well, that's good to know.
792
00:56:32.340 --> 00:56:36.420
That's our opinion. We still manage
to go almost an hour on this guy.
793
00:56:37.659 --> 00:56:42.019
We we are long winded, if
nothing else. No one would ever
794
00:56:42.059 --> 00:56:46.329
accuse us of being succinct. Is
that the right word for short? I
795
00:56:46.369 --> 00:56:51.610
don't think it might not be.
I think it works okay. Anyway,
796
00:56:51.650 --> 00:56:54.369
thanks for listening, all of you, and if you're listening to this this
797
00:56:54.690 --> 00:56:58.449
week when it came out, Mary
Christmas, Happy New Year, all that
798
00:56:58.489 --> 00:57:02.599
fun stuff. We're excited to come
out with some more episodes as we enter
799
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:08.599
our almost will be to our second
birthday in April. So just few episodes
800
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:14.920
till we get to another. What
was gonna say? What is is it?
801
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.789
You Futures, futures in April.
So you got that to look forward
802
00:57:17.789 --> 00:57:21.150
to. Hey, should we tell
him, since we know what record we're
803
00:57:21.190 --> 00:57:23.190
doing, what to listen to?
We can. Yeah, if you the
804
00:57:23.269 --> 00:57:28.510
next the next episode, we did, and then we kept forgetting to pick
805
00:57:28.630 --> 00:57:31.980
a record before we recorded them.
We're going to do stray light runs first
806
00:57:32.019 --> 00:57:35.940
record. What's it called? I
forget the name of it. Actually,
807
00:57:36.219 --> 00:57:38.139
I think it's self titled. I
think you're right. Yeah, that's why
808
00:57:38.139 --> 00:57:42.300
I forgot. So we're doing that
next. If you want to take a
809
00:57:42.420 --> 00:57:45.610
listen, that's a little bit more
of an obscure one, with John from
810
00:57:45.769 --> 00:57:50.809
taking back Sunday, post all the
drama that we've talked about. You can
811
00:57:50.809 --> 00:57:55.210
go back and listen to the taking
back Sunday episode to be a pre prefix,
812
00:57:55.409 --> 00:57:59.800
and the brand news they want to
mmm Oh, yeah, you can
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listen to the both. You can
listen to brain. No, no,
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because the brand new beef was already
happening, the taking back Sunday beef that
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happened to this was that? No, I'm listening. Your brand new episode
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would tie into the taking back that's
true. Yes, so you could have
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a little back cataloging over your Christmas
break. You can listen to the taking
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back Sunday and the brand new episodes
to prepare for stray light run and other
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than that will oh sorry, I
forgot. We got to do this part.
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You got to send US comments,
disagreements. Yeah, fact checks.
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You can get the dates right before
we can on this dash timeline. That'd
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be great. Suggestions in that stuff
at Info, finding him podcom or you
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can hit us up at twitter.
Even though we bashed on it, we
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still, I do, get the
alerts, so you can tweet us at
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finding Emil pod. You can use
that finding Emi pod for Instagram, facebook,
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all that kind of stuff too.
We like hearing from y'all. We
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love hearing your disagreements. We had
a really great one this week. Actually.
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Our buddies, my buddy Danny,
that our lead singer, Danny that
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was in the band with me and
Chris, did a Jimmy world cover tribute
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band this past weekend and while they're
a buddy of ours, came up and
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had an interesting theory about one of
the deathcap songs we talked about last time.
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And now Kyle and I his mines
are blown. So yeah, well,
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maybe talk about that on the next
death cab. Yeah, thanks,
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Matt. You guys. Oh,
Kyle. Oh, yeah, Chris isn't
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in the loop. You didn't hear
this whole thing. No, we later.
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Okay, you just have to share
it after but yeah, that's great.
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We'll share it. Jim. By
the way, the band name is
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the Jim at kids diet, which
is, you know, which Chris coined
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for his my yeah, Chris Coin
for his Jim Atkins playlist on itunes back
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in the disc for his best assure. Yeah, so I'll promise. It
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was really great. Actually, it
made me very exciting. They played firefight
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and it was awesome. Oh Man, I'm nailed it. They did nailed
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it. It was awesome and I
serius. It was like, I want
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to get my car, might be
able to catch the last song. It
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was fun. Yeah, so,
if you're in OK see and you hear
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of Jim Atkins Diet playing again,
check it out for sure. Or if
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you're not, no case, drive
here and we'll hang out and tweet us
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and let us know so we can
see it. All right, that's it
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for us. Will catch you next
time. You'll have a good rest of
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your two thousand and twenty one.
All right,
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Welcome to finding emo, our podcast
where we discuss our favorite albums from the
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early adds and thereabouts. I'm Blake
Fisher and I'm joined by Chris Banyane Kyle
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Simmons, and thanks for joining us. We appreciate you and we almost got
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this one out technically in time,
so we're getting back on that schedule.
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Thanks for hanging out with us.
Well, if you're not already, you
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review, get everything you want for
Christmas. Yeah, for sure, Nice.
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It's nice. It's really good investment, you know, technological investment for
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actual return of goods and services.
Yeah, because that's really five stars.
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Then you get everything you want and
we get what we want, which is
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just five star reviews. That's that's
all I asked for. Yeah, today
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on the podcast we are doing because
it just turned twenty years old. Dashboard
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professionals, two thousand and one EP
twice. Yeah, so I think will
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ep. It's twenty years old this
week. Next years beer with it.
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Yeah, so we just thought it
would be a great shorter episode. Since
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it only has four songs on it. We should manage to keep this under
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an hour and a half. I
think we can do that, guys.
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I think so. By the way, guys, Happy National Emo Day on
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Sunday. I didn't text you,
but high I know right, it's got
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it on Hashtag now. I didn't
even know it. How To national holiday?
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Yeah, I'll celebrate that one.
I should have done something. I
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mean, I didn't because I didn't
know about it, but nasty, the
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Sunday, last Sunday. Yeah,
I'm late. Does anyone know why that
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date that? They just pick a
random date, or I is there's some
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importance to hmm, that album,
I mean for that for that day.
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I didn't know if it was like
Fug Azi came out with their first RUC
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something's yeah, why? December nineteen? That's an interesting question. Yeah,
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I don't know. Well, we'll
probably no way out. One out,
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probably no, there's no. The
Internet will not probably help us, just
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like it didn't help us a lot
with finding anything about this album. Actually,
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Chris and I both kind of jumped
into it and I was like wow,
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there's literally, you know, it's
barely listed on the wikipedia page because
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it's not an album, quote unquote, or what they call a studio release.
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Like I think this is technically recorded
in a studio and then released,
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so I don't understand why it does
not count. But it's an EPE,
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so they, I guess, just
didn't like to put a lot of information
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at obviously we've recapped this on the
furthest things forever and the places you come
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to fear the most episodes. But
two thousand and one was a heck of
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a year for big US Carrava.
Okay, I don't have the exact day
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to get in front of me,
but I'm pretty sure the order of operations
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was that in March the DASHBOOR professional
record came out of two thousand and one,
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and places you come to fear the
most, in April, I think,
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the further seams forever album came out, and then this is December of
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two thousand and one and by I
think, June of two thousand and two,
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the summer's Kiss Epe came out,
or the summer's kiss might have came
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out before this, but either way
all of those are within like a less
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than eighteen month period. Of Time. So and he had quit. He
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had quit further before that record came
out. Right, he actually was out
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of the band when he recorded the
vocals for the moon is down, and
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that the moons down came out a
month after the places you've come for the
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most and it'Swiss Army Romance only came
out one hour before. Well, I
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mean one year before that. So
felt like he's a busy guy from two
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thousand to two thousand and two.
And I love this little gym. And
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Blake, don't forget, he's help
run in the family. Rest the run.
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They bring it in that big bread
stick money and that he also do.
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They have frids drip, but bread
sticks that Corralas I know. That's
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a thing there. They must.
I gotta meet the ball right, of
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course. I forgot to mention my
meet run in the restaurant. Somebody just
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put like so many people just hit
stopped, like I can't do this.
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Joking, guys, don't. You
can't go down run it. It's to
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the freaking ground. It's too much
nny. Really. That's some more.
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Is that going to be Chris Pratt's
Mario Voice? Oh my God, they
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upcoming and the Internet would feature film
about that now. They were not.
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Chris. Did you find anything else
about this album? I know Chris Graba
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played on it. I know who's
The guy's name from? Yes, Dan
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Horner, we believe, saying some
background vocals of according to an article fame,
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I mean, and he's sunny,
he's emo royalty. Yeah, yeah,
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for sure. Yeah, I to
get and I thought he played.
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I thought he played guitar with Chris, at least didn't in he the one
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that played on the the unplugged so
I was thinking maybe that was the case.
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Yeah, because he did unplugged a
few months after this. Right,
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yeah, that's also two thousand and
that's early two thousand and two, I'm
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pretty sure. Right, right,
because it's before a mark mission, a
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brandon scark comes out, right you? Oh, yeah, for sure.
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Okay, that doesn't come out till
two thousand and four or something. Anyway,
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we can look that up, I
guess too. Yeah, there's just
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not a lot of information out about
it, but that's that's about it.
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Yeah, that's what we know.
It's on vagrant records. It comes out
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December eighteen, two thousand and one. Chris Kraba is definitely on it.
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We don't know who else is that. I do not believe that that gentleman
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for Sunday real estate played with him
unplugged, though. Okay, HMM,
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yeah, sorry, that's okay.
I just I literally don't know. I
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couldn't remember do either. You guys. I should know this. Blake,
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you spotify, Chris, use apple
music, right and true. I use
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both right now because I'm on a
trial of apple music. I'm seeing if
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they can convince me the sound quality
spotify. That's that's why I use it.
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So, Chris, have you noticed
that they've done the new like animated
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album covers, and this one had
its fun. Did you notice? Oh,
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it is, yeah, the the
the guy in the Gal or like
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moving around and like, you know. Like. So I have itunes match,
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which so sometimes I'm listening to like
the uploader version of my album from
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one I like. Oh, I
see burnt the CD. Yeah, if
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you open apple music and and go
to the artwork on this, they're like
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interacting. Cool, want walt that's
up all. Actually, I do have
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it, it's just I don't have
my phone. Oh, yeah, she's
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playing with her hair. Yeah,
is that thing that they have a record?
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Yeah, I think it's a record
is a record. Yeah, see,
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we made it work. We talked
about the album a little. Hey,
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look at bad there's some information.
There is some information. This is
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the blue one. Otherwise, but
there's the blue one and then there's the
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orange one, which was summer's kiss. And so anyways, I mean we
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can basically get right into kind of
our opening stuff. So we obviously already
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know about Chris Grob at this point. We've done two of his albums on
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this podcast. So we are aware
of dashboard professionals. So our first impressions
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are not really so much first impressions
of the band, but maybe of the
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album. Kyle, let's good.
You first. What your first impressions?
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It's it kicks Butt and and also
we talked about softly, super softly kicks.
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But yeah, it's super softly kicks. But well, I mean track
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for kicks, but through, true, true, but so I think I
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don't know what it is because even
in my memories, like Dashboard still has
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this punk rock spirit to me,
like I know that this is softer,
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I know, I know that it's
like not, but it it has this
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punk rock vibe and it always takes
me back like this was for me for
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all of you youngsters out there.
In two thousand and one, some of
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US crazy cats would put a put
a CD on and hit the old repeat
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button and go to sleep. And
Dashboard was that for me. For sure.
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Yeah, that is a good one
for that. And also, you
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know, maybe, I, maybe, I try to smooch your girl while
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I listen to it. Oh yeah, for sure, without a doubt.
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Just get some sugar. I don't
know. That definitely happened, Chris.
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Your additional impressions I vaguely remember.
I mean I think you know I was
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really into places you have come for
the most and so it's just kind of
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exciting when this came out because,
you know, we we're just all kind
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of excited to have some new music
from him, because all of us had,
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everyone I knew had been listening at
something that album all summer and it
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was just a nice little, nice
little like how do you do for the
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fans? You know, very,
very simple, quick record, but all
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the songs were really decent on I
think I played it, you know,
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played it a lot. Feel Samilli
or to played it a lot. Plus,
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you know CD players. So Yep, I had you all, had
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six in my call. You're driving. I mean you, yeah, four
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song EP throw in all sudden you're
like, well, this is either on
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repeat or right highway. I can't
change it out right now exactly. There's
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a yeah, there's a lot of
limitations there. I've had to I tried
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to explain this to my kids and
they don't I've just I feel like such
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an old man. I'm like no, we used to maybe have twelve albums
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we could listen to in the car. or Oh yeah, those really big
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binders, but didn't have a friend
in the car. You couldn't go digging
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through that now. That was right, you know, stuffing gas station or
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something right. Yeah, I mean
I obviously was pretty high on dashboard at
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this point and love them and I
didn't notice, though, up front that
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this was a single story like that. Did Not I really liked it,
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but I because I guess paid attention
less to lyrics than some people would.
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I just didn't catch the once I
caught that, I really liked it because
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so many concept albums that are like
they throw like two ideas and they kind
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of pepper them throughout, but really
they didn't write a cohesive story. It's
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really like cohed did it? For
sure but like even my chemical romance didn't
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really like tell US story from track
one all the way through a record,
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like they kind of had a vibe
going on. I put it wasn't enter
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more themed. Yeah, themes,
that's probably right. And so this was
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like a kind of themed record,
concept kind of thing, but actually told
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a complete story from beginning by end, Song by Song, and I thought
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that was really cool, especially because
you got to do it lyrically and musically,
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and I think that he did that
really well, ending with hands down.
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You know, if that was tracked
to that, that would be terrible.
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You know, like just move the
lyrics around or want to get move.
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He would not be a good move. And so to have it kind
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of move like a musical piece and
lyrically, I thought was a really cool
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thing. And and then, of
course, you know, we also sort
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of told this story, but we're
pretty sure that this is about someone we
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know the and I mean we would
assume the entire EP is if we know
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a song was because Chris and I
open four dashboard back in whatever, like
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two thousand and eight and Yelp,
we knew he dated this girl we went
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to high school with and chatted about
it and stuff. And so then on
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stage he was like camera, which
song was? Do you know which one
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was? I think it was remembered
to breathe. I'm pretty sure I can't
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remember, but either way he was
everyone right. Yeah, yeah, an,
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that sounds familiar. Yeah, I'm
pretty sure it was that at that
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show. Is kind of the the
whole experience, kind of scroll, yeah,
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troll, pick it up details,
but yeah, absolutely. Yeah,
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I'm pretty sure it was rememored a
breathe. And so he played. He
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like mention it looks like, Hey, you know, this one's about a
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girl that the other guys went to
high school with, but I win because
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I gotta make out with her and
so and then play this song. So
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I assume if you write this thing, if this is a whole story and
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we know one songs about this girl, we'd assume the whole thing was.
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kind of suspected that at the time. It came out to yeah, we.
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fun yeah, but confirmed, but
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confirmed, yes, and this is
the most sourcing we've ever had direct using
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with on anything we ever said on
this podcast. Everything else was like a
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weak like yes, you guys are
right, it's about her, but confirmed,
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like, you know, like a
wink. I just went to the
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guys. I forgot. You can
use you can't see the wink. I
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pointed at my Will Ferrell. And
just this week Chris Grabo posted onstagram like
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a quote where he said what's amazing
to me is I wrote that song thinking
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talking about hands down, thinking I
was sharing it with one other person,
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only to find out I would be
sharing that song with thousands of people every
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night, maybe for the rest of
my life, and that feels pretty good.
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So, and you know, that's
that's kind of crazy. He just
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really wrote this for, I assume, that girl. But yeah, obviously
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turned into a pretty big thing,
especially because the the later hands down full
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band electric version from the following record. It does is a good big thing
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for for that band, really launches
them significantly higher than the previous record did.
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So that's kind of my first impression. And then I just like side
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note that, because I could just
say it for all of these, is
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that I think the unplug performances are
from that MTV unplugged or actually pretty cool
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of these tracks too. And I
also really liked those versions, even though
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we're not going to play those versions
on this show. But y'all, any
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other thoughts on kind of first impressions? No, Den, we did.
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We officially say happy birthday to this. We did. Yeah, okay,
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all twenty years, twenty when we
go years. Yeah, that's kind of
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crazy, which we probably have a
lot in this next year that are twenty
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years. We should probably actually just
plan that out instead of waiting for the
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instagram post from some artists. Were
like, Oh, we should do that
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this week. This is this is
how we decide what we're doing for a
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podcast. That's how we decided that
we're doing this podcast. Yeah, we
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literally solid thing that. Twenty years. Yeah, we should do it this
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week. We go, okay,
only the two thousand and five. Yeah,
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let's do it there. We go
okay, so a track one is
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for you to knows the but we
just slightly longer clips because I just figured
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we're only doing four songs, so
seems reasonable. Kyle, thoughts on track
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one for you to notice, I
freaking love the harmony on the for you
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to notice me at the end of
that clip, like it's just awesome.
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I think we talked about this on
the last dashboard episode, but he does.
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He does kind of an interesting formula
for like the layout of his songs,
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you know, like I guess that's
the chorus, that's at the yeah,
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that I'm not sure, but like, you know, I don't feel
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like I'm missing anything. I love
man two thousand and one. That was
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that was a that was a good
time for me as well, and so,
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like, I love listening to the
opening of this. I'm starting to
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fashion an idea in my head where
I can impress you with every single word
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I said, like the confidence of
youth man, you know, like,
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yeah, like, I'll have more
to say about about that over the next
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you know, four tracks here.
But like I love this song and it's
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in it's you know, maybe it's
nostalgia, but like I still think it's
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good and I still love when he
goes for it at the end of that
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the notice. I do too.
It's just awesome. I love the yeah,
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the harmonies are awesome, the guitar
parts are great on this, like
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it's really good and it was kind
of like I felt like the other thing
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that this album did a good job
of is there were all these people at
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the time that, you know,
because idiots do this. Every time this
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happens to an artist, they're like, well, I like them better on
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Swiss army romance when it was just
him and not clean production and a full
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band or whatever. You know how
people basically just a band gets popular and
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they start being like, well,
I liked him before and so I don't
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like the new thing. This was
kind of at least a way to go
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like okay, it's kind of that
Swiss Army Romance, just acoustic and him
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and going back to that. So
it's kind of not I like that.
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I feel like that was kind of
not not fan service, but it was
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going back to that. I believe
you're talking. I believe they call that
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haters like like haters. Yeah,
but it's not really haters. It's people
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that go I like the old thing
that you don't know exists because I was
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cool or before you were I didn't
even like that's the part that bothers me.
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Yeah, if someone just didn't like
Dashburgnfessional, not a problem. It's
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when you're like, Oh, I
only like clarity if you're Jimmy Rol fan,
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or Oh, I only like Swiss
Army Romance, or I only would
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just like pick any band and do
their first record versus the second one that's
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more successful, and when people do
that it just kind of it drives me
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nuts. It's fine if you just
don't like something, that's okay, but
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I don't think there was a big
enough departure from what he was doing between
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those three things. Like Swiss army
places you've come to for the most no
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way, and this there's not like
leaps, there's not like a huge amount
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of daylight between them where you would
not recognize it or something. So always
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thought that was going to silly.
Chris, what are your thoughts on on
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the track dig the song? That
intro kind of swell, I like when
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I first listen to it again after
when we decide. Yeah, this,
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man, that gave me the feels, Dude. I was like yeah,
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back in my car, I don't
know, man, it just that I'm
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I'm saying that because I want to
stay unequivocally that there are plenty of albums
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from this era that don't take me
right back. Like I feel like I
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could smell the air the December are
two thousand and one. When I hear
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this, it's the windows are down. Yeah, for sure. What the
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Doing? The tornado with the heater
on if it's December. Yeah, but,
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yeah, and kind of interesting thinking
about how. Yeah, I was
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also remember myself being in positions like
this where you are like it, you
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know, because like the concept of
you and go into a party. Now
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it's just like so baffling to me. So that's like thinking about. I
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remember you would show up, you
kind of like try to find like the
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air, you know, like find
some people you know, and then you
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might see someone you've never seen from
across the room. I don't know,
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man, it's a it's a it's
a good song. It puts you put
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you right in that put you right
back in that spot. The injured did
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the exact same thing with me,
Chris. I mean, yeah, I
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can remember. I don't remember where
I was when I first heard it,
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but I just remember the general places
I was hanging out when I was just
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playing this album all the time at
that point. So yeah, that that
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little intro thing. I'm with you. There's a lot we talked about a
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lot of albums that were nostalgic for
and but this is definitely one of them
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that I can remember specifics about.
So, yeah, that sound also took
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me right back. So okay,
let's go to track to so impossible.
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I was hoping to love a few
things like so we look. Well,
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Christ is good. You first thoughts
on so impossible track to to man just
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frighten the fields. That that what
is that? That kind of arrangement?
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Is it? Maybe just he does
this a lot on place you come up
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fear the most. Is An organ
in the background, or just I think
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it's just like a synth, kind
of just a sipid drink. It's like
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a sea. Yeah, it's a
string emulator, but it's not like a
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light one. No, yeah,
right, but that's what makes it good
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for this song. I don't know, it just makes it perfect. It's
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not, I don't know. It's
almost like the the dashboard sound at this
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point. You know, it's like
a little pad kind of thing. Yeah,
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I pick it up a little bit. Yeah, I mean that line
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dishing dirt on the whole class.
We're talking the big smack always, always
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bugg me a little just at it
was a little hit. Hits, it
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hits you a little weird. But
I love this song absolutely, huge fan.
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Yeah, I like. I mean
it's just it's a good I really
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mean. Yeah, you're again.
I forgot that we had toms. Talked
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about that on the last episode we
talked about him. But you're right,
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those formats of these songs, yeah, are you're it's like, is that
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the chorus, is it not?
I don't know, the pre chorus?
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I like a weird yeah, because
I mean it's because it kind of flows
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right into one thing and it's a
good he's pretty good at the storytelling kind
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of thing and so it works pretty
well. Cow, what your thoughts on
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so impossible. So I agree with
my birthday buddy. I hate that line
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and I love I never bothered.
Oh my gosh, I hate it so
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much and I love this song yet
and I hate that line. And other
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than that, I want to talk
momentarily, since is only four songs.
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You know, we can get off
on a side tangent if you guys want.
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Yeah, that's fine, I will. I want to talk about what
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this song makes me, used to
make me feel, and how it makes
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me feel now. And it's like, I I think often how grateful I
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am that I am not dating today
all the time, having today look like
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I think all the time. Thank
you God, that I'm not having to
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to be in the dating pool and
and like this song makes me remember how,
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like different things were back then,
in two thousand and one because now,
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like with social media and everything,
it's like we present ourselves as who
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we want to be seen as.
This is who I am, this is
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what I think, blah, blah, blah, Blah Blah. But back
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then, like dating someone was an
invitation to be curious, like who are
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you? What do you lie?
Like we, you know what I mean.
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Like in this song captures that feeling
that I that I, that I
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I don't know. I believe maybe
gone from dating. Now, I can't
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only say because I'm not a part
of it, but, like, what
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terrifies me about dating is I feel
like this is no longer part of it.
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You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Is that
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weird? No, I don't think
it's weird. I've never thought about that.
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I mean, I've thought about what
a nightmare it would be to date
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again just because I wouldn't know how
to do it, but I hadn't thought
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about the fact that, like it's
not only it's changed in that way.
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I never I guess there would probably
be so many people. I only know
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because right before we start recording this
Chris and I were talking about how twitter's
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a nightmare. Yeah, it is, and the Internet start fire. What
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happens is I get on something like
I used to love twitter, and then
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what was slowly happening to me is, I mean, I'm in the politics,
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for sure, and so I'm I
follow a lot of like that kind
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of stuff, and I generally like
talking about it and, you know,
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having a little arguments, but I
was like losing respect for people that I
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knew and liked because of the things
that they were saying online about other human
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beings. Right, and I was
just like what I was in relation to
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dating, though, I would imagine
I would be eliminating people from the possibilities
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based on that kind of stuff on
social media. Does that make sense?
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And it might not be fair because
that might be just as fake or old,
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you know, yeah, exactly represented. And and so, yeah,
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that would probably weird, because there
was no it was like, am I
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attracted to you? was like step
one, number one. Yes, really,
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that was in person. What kind
of food do you like? Right,
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and like Oh, yeah, and
then we had to figure everything else
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out and like this is right,
my you know, two thousand when is
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my space? Have that's like a
couple years after this, two thousand and
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four, two thousand and five,
probably two thousand. Probably my space is
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kind of height. I can't remember
when they got sold, but two thousand
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and one there was not anything social
media wise. I couldn't even have a
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fun that could text right. So
I've never thought about that car with.
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That's really genius, like that's yeah, that's it really so true. I
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can't imagine it would be the same. Maybe it's a good insight. Maybe
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dating is the same, but I
get the vibe that it's not. You
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know what I mean? Like,
no, I know, I don't think
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it is. Now. Well,
and even even if it isn't, like
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we can have nostalage it for what
it was. And I don't, Dude.
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I was just thinking back to like
all the rush, like you.
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That's how you would discover restaurants or
music, like sometimes when you were dating
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somebody like you would like see the
world through there. I like this.
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Yeah, I cool, cool,
I do or I do not like this.
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Thank you very much, Dude.
They say that upside. What's that
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was it? Maybe an upside is, though, that you you at least
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get to like eliminate like maybe some
of that elimination is good. You know
370
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what I mean? We're like you
don't have to date as many people because
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you can go. Well, they're
they're not even worth taking out. Because
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I know this is going to be
a problem because, you know, in
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my might be something non superficial.
I mean it might be, you know,
374
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like forget about, like if they
you think they're a bad person on
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twitter. But even just like,
oh, they don't want to have kids,
376
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and I do like. So eliminated
are you know, maybe that's an
377
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easy thing. If that's if they
talk about that in their social media or
378
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something. But so, maybe there's
some I'm sure there's some upsides, no
379
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doubt, but like with everything.
But I also would regret not not mentioning
380
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there is another line in the song
that I hate, but not because no,
381
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tell us no, not fine,
not because it's bad, but because
382
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at the end of the song he
says and guys that just don't quite fit
383
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in. Yeah, do you like
them? And every time it brings me
384
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out of the song and I think
of green eggs in ham every freaking time.
385
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.920
See, I think that's your own
problem. Maybe that is, but's
386
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a kyle problem. This is saying
something more about kyle the yeah, but
387
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it like that Ab I think.
But it's now my problem and you're problem.
388
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:45.750
Like yeah, everyone's listenings problem,
because that's all we're ever going to
389
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hear. Yet it every time it
like it's like jarring, like what the
390
00:27:48.150 --> 00:27:53.230
heck is this? Sam I am
singing the song. Can you have blake
391
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draw like Chris Krava in the style
of Dr Seus? Yeah, sure,
392
00:27:57.190 --> 00:28:00.140
I'm sure. Seems like this is
a no brainer. Whip that up like
393
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other blake that did our podcast are
way because I act I'm not a good
394
00:28:04.140 --> 00:28:08.500
artist, but blake barons is.
I'd okay. So can I even out
395
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with a line? I really do
like. Yeah, that okay. Yeah,
396
00:28:11.619 --> 00:28:14.450
since you guys. Hey, I
love the song. Yeah, hate
397
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a couple lines in it. That's
okay, I love the like and maybe
398
00:28:18.009 --> 00:28:19.730
my friend and your friend'll hit it
off or maybe. Oh yeah, yeah,
399
00:28:19.849 --> 00:28:25.369
that's such a great that is absolutely
a line I would have tried to
400
00:28:25.410 --> 00:28:27.240
use, like hey, I'm trying
to we're trying to get our friends together,
401
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:30.759
but really, I maybe rink go
in, but maybe we could.
402
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.680
You know, that's absolutely something I
would have tried. I'm sure. I'm
403
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.359
sure everybody has a story. I'm
just I can't remember an ex specific but
404
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:41.710
when you when you try to make
that work and it didn't work, like
405
00:28:41.789 --> 00:28:44.710
you and somebody would hit it off. Oh Yeah, you try your friends
406
00:28:44.710 --> 00:28:48.309
together and they would just be like
oil of water. Whoo yeah, Nice.
407
00:28:48.789 --> 00:28:52.269
Yeah, try to make it through
a movie or something like that.
408
00:28:52.430 --> 00:28:56.420
Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm
not. I was never very good at
409
00:28:56.500 --> 00:29:00.819
playing cupid with people. I don't
think I probably ever successfully did so.
410
00:29:02.180 --> 00:29:04.140
At least. Likes to take credit
for a lots of our friends relationships,
411
00:29:04.220 --> 00:29:07.819
though, so I don't know if
it that really matters or not. But
412
00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:14.130
Oh, you know that we talked
about. So impossible a surprising amount.
413
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Let's go to remember to breathe.
PUNIC. I love this song. I
414
00:30:03.460 --> 00:30:10.250
think it's just got a great droning
four chord kind of thing going on without
415
00:30:10.450 --> 00:30:15.089
being boring. I mean it's pretty
short, but it's great song. I
416
00:30:15.250 --> 00:30:21.089
love it. Very few lyrics,
kind of all drawn out a kind of
417
00:30:21.210 --> 00:30:23.759
it does such a good job of
building the anticipation for the next song.
418
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.960
That's really what this song's purposes is, just like building that. It's literally
419
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.720
like the whole thing is a build. Kind of into hands down, and
420
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.750
I think it's genius, and that's
why it's like a crime almost to not
421
00:30:37.869 --> 00:30:41.509
listen to these four songs back to
back to back. Yeah, they are
422
00:30:41.549 --> 00:30:45.630
all really good songs and I do
like listening to them, but I really
423
00:30:45.630 --> 00:30:49.099
want to hear them in this order
because it really does I don't know,
424
00:30:49.259 --> 00:30:53.819
it just it works really well.
Kyle Ward thoughts, man, I completely
425
00:30:53.859 --> 00:31:00.579
agree. Like this song makes hands
down a better song. Yeah, the
426
00:31:00.859 --> 00:31:06.049
fact the the line remember to breathe
him just going on such a then love
427
00:31:06.210 --> 00:31:10.809
first line of hands down, breathe
in. Yep, like it's so good,
428
00:31:10.890 --> 00:31:15.609
like I freaking love that. Yeah, also, very emo, oh
429
00:31:15.849 --> 00:31:19.599
for sure. Sorry, we had
not mentioned that on this on this podcast
430
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:26.359
tonight. Yeah, it's very emo. And then also I get this vibe
431
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.720
on this song where which which is
not easy to pull off, we're like
432
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.990
maybe this dude is, maybe Chris. This dude like I don't know who
433
00:31:33.990 --> 00:31:40.390
he is. Maybe Chris Graba,
I missed to cut up. Is is
434
00:31:40.589 --> 00:31:45.470
hurt? He never hears this.
Maybe he's like it's possible that he's just
435
00:31:45.670 --> 00:31:48.900
riffing in the studio on this.
You know what I mean? Oh,
436
00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:51.660
like vocally, yes, like,
Oh, I think. I think that's
437
00:31:51.700 --> 00:31:53.819
a strong possible. He just he
just went for it. But but it
438
00:31:55.460 --> 00:32:00.809
works because you feel it, you
know, like he's being genuine. Yes,
439
00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:06.089
love it and I love the he's
really good at the long note hold
440
00:32:07.089 --> 00:32:09.970
with emotions and I don't know how
you could do more than like a couple
441
00:32:10.130 --> 00:32:15.049
takes like that. Yeah, we're
that would give that. You'RE gonna have
442
00:32:15.089 --> 00:32:20.359
keep those quick at least. Yeah, and I definitely, you know,
443
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:25.279
between him and Steven Tyler, was
majorly influenced into doing that kind of crap.
444
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.309
And because you know, everyone likes
that that when you do that live
445
00:32:30.430 --> 00:32:35.829
nut, it's like if you can
hit a note and hold it for more
446
00:32:35.950 --> 00:32:38.710
than one bar, people are like, oh my goodness, this is like
447
00:32:38.829 --> 00:32:44.339
I just have lung compasiony, just
clapping for lung capacity essentially. But yeah,
448
00:32:44.500 --> 00:32:46.299
but I like it. Yeah,
and some of my favorite you know,
449
00:32:46.339 --> 00:32:52.579
we talked about how I have a
gives me chills playlist. Most of
450
00:32:52.660 --> 00:32:55.380
them are songs were someone's holding a
really long note, you know. It's
451
00:32:55.420 --> 00:33:00.569
like that Muse Song where he holds
that note for forever or county crows,
452
00:33:00.650 --> 00:33:04.730
dude a. But I just love
it. And so this one definitely is
453
00:33:04.849 --> 00:33:12.049
in that list of great long note
holding performances that create song, where he
454
00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:19.519
just holds out that note. Is
that about? That he did? Why?
455
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:24.400
Why? We can't even get through
a four song episode without someone mentioning
456
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:30.869
a terrible late, these early two
thousand butt rock band. I mean is
457
00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:32.990
you were talking about, like,
not me. I was not talking about
458
00:33:34.029 --> 00:33:36.750
creed. I was talking about specifically
men should create. What you mean?
459
00:33:36.789 --> 00:33:39.190
You were in a roundabout way,
like you, you're so about. You
460
00:33:39.269 --> 00:33:43.660
were egging him on. It was
obviously you were setting me up. Picture
461
00:33:43.779 --> 00:33:45.500
that. That was done with a
computer, though. Someone took a little
462
00:33:45.500 --> 00:33:50.900
chunk and just want I'm just seeing
some of the mouse, just like nick
463
00:33:51.019 --> 00:33:53.740
dragging it out, and it's a
night. Yeah, I think he got
464
00:33:53.859 --> 00:33:58.769
some help on that one. I
think Chris Kraba did this live one hundred
465
00:33:58.769 --> 00:34:00.650
and ten a too. Yeah,
and a closet through his head, through
466
00:34:00.769 --> 00:34:05.809
his headphones down and was like I'm
done. It's a masterpiece. Yeah,
467
00:34:07.450 --> 00:34:09.480
that's the story that I tell myself
in my head. Chris, you have
468
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.440
not talked about remember to breathe yet. Ride we got off on a tangent.
469
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.400
What are your thoughts on river to
breathe? I love this song and
470
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:21.280
I'll tell you why. It's because
here's a guy who's like straddling the line
471
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:25.789
at this very moment between being well
known in many circles but probably not recognized
472
00:34:25.829 --> 00:34:30.710
if he walks through like a,
you know, an airport by a lot
473
00:34:30.750 --> 00:34:36.110
of people, to being famous,
like straight up famous, famous, famous,
474
00:34:36.469 --> 00:34:39.659
and I think he probably at least
has been told this by somebody at
475
00:34:39.699 --> 00:34:43.579
this point, like maybe his manager, Rich Richie, again, some you
476
00:34:43.659 --> 00:34:45.420
people, like he's getting a lot
of money through in his way and he's
477
00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:52.449
still adorably vapping biker. Very shortly
after this buys half are sorry, not
478
00:34:52.489 --> 00:34:58.250
vagrant. Interscope buys forty nine percent
of vagrant right after this or around this
479
00:34:58.409 --> 00:35:00.809
time, and I think homeboy had
something to do with that. Yeah,
480
00:35:00.889 --> 00:35:04.610
so, but for him to it's
kind of endearing to meet it, for
481
00:35:04.690 --> 00:35:07.559
somebody who's like basically on top of
the world, you know, trying to
482
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:12.239
tell himself to remember to breathe on
a date with a pretty girl, I
483
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:15.800
don't know, it's that part of
that part of me makes it extra sweet.
484
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.519
So I always say it was a
shame. It is a sweet song.
485
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:22.949
It is. It's very sweet and
he knows what's paying the bills.
486
00:35:23.630 --> 00:35:27.230
He knows what kind of songs are
paying the bills. Dude. I found
487
00:35:27.309 --> 00:35:34.510
this old forum when this song came
out and everybody like talking about it,
488
00:35:34.670 --> 00:35:37.940
like they're like he is the most
brilliant songwriter of our generation, about this
489
00:35:37.059 --> 00:35:40.780
song, like people in two thousand
and one are crazy, and I was
490
00:35:40.820 --> 00:35:45.380
laughing myself, like you people are
all like a countants and like yeah,
491
00:35:45.500 --> 00:35:49.739
he's like running the world, and
they were like he is literally better than
492
00:35:49.780 --> 00:35:53.210
John Lennon, no doubt, full
stop. That's the old statement. I
493
00:35:53.289 --> 00:35:58.409
think he's great too, and I
do think he defined if you were like
494
00:35:58.570 --> 00:36:04.360
a sophomore to junior in high school
or Sophomore to senior in high school in
495
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.960
two thousand and one too. Well, I mean called a five year range,
496
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:12.559
if you were at the time,
you know, in that little age
497
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:16.239
range. That would be everyone for
and for every I promise you, for
498
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:21.789
every CD he sold, there were
there were ten that were burned. Like
499
00:36:22.030 --> 00:36:25.469
yeah, I mean that ratio has
to be at least that, because we
500
00:36:25.590 --> 00:36:29.590
looked at the numbers for like the
places you have come to fear the note
501
00:36:29.710 --> 00:36:31.900
most and it didn't even go gold. Yeah, I don't think right.
502
00:36:32.179 --> 00:36:37.300
And like everyone I knew had that
record. I mean yeah, and if
503
00:36:37.380 --> 00:36:39.619
they had, we talked about that. Did we did. It went platinum
504
00:36:39.659 --> 00:36:43.739
by burn. And this one the
same thing. This one's the same thing.
505
00:36:43.940 --> 00:36:50.050
Everyone knew hands down before it was
on Mark Commission brain of scar everyone
506
00:36:50.090 --> 00:36:52.690
had heard this version that I knew. And now keep in mind we,
507
00:36:52.809 --> 00:36:54.849
I. We obviously ran around people
that were in bands and went to shows
508
00:36:54.889 --> 00:36:59.769
and so that they were very much
I was in a bubble, for sure,
509
00:37:00.530 --> 00:37:02.960
but like I was also in high
school at the time hanging out with
510
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.480
a lot of people that weren't in
that scene and they also liked this.
511
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:10.079
So yeah, yeah, he was
pretty popular at the time and and yeah,
512
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.440
it's a great song and I don't
think you know, maybe a little
513
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:19.989
overhype to say, John Lennon,
but still definitely in the s there weren't
514
00:37:19.989 --> 00:37:25.590
a lot of people competing very strongly
with that kind of well, I mean
515
00:37:25.670 --> 00:37:29.469
no, you know, it's great. was great as the old forums.
516
00:37:29.510 --> 00:37:31.340
They didn't have threaded comments, so
like if somebody disagreed with you, they'd
517
00:37:31.340 --> 00:37:35.099
be like nine comments down, like
hey, about five up, oh,
518
00:37:36.219 --> 00:37:38.340
but kick her fifty eight. I
disagree. And let me tell you why?
519
00:37:38.659 --> 00:37:43.300
My point is you couldn't. Yeah, there was not thready comments in
520
00:37:43.420 --> 00:37:46.969
case. I think that you're wrong. Kyl. You mentioned creed and that's
521
00:37:47.849 --> 00:37:52.730
in they are not maybe the best
example, but a lot of what was
522
00:37:52.809 --> 00:37:59.639
going on was not. There was
not a lot of honesty in in popular
523
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:04.320
music. In two thousand and one. It was all the boy bands kind
524
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:08.480
of starting to that that pop thing, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, backstreet
525
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.429
boys in sync, and then the
other side of the coin was like creed
526
00:38:13.670 --> 00:38:15.989
and freaking limp biscuit and that kind
of stuff. Like there was not.
527
00:38:16.590 --> 00:38:22.469
It was a lot of performative nonsense
in two thousand and one and and and
528
00:38:22.590 --> 00:38:27.699
dashboard felt like a like a kind
of like an honest thing and it was
529
00:38:27.739 --> 00:38:31.460
enough between the punk rock kind of
thing and and somehow he threaded a needle
530
00:38:31.579 --> 00:38:36.699
where like, like guys and girls
both liked dashboard professional for some reason,
531
00:38:37.420 --> 00:38:40.610
and it and really what. In
a lot of the other things that were
532
00:38:40.650 --> 00:38:44.409
going on, that didn't seem to
be the case, except for hip hop.
533
00:38:44.610 --> 00:38:45.769
That was the thing that I felt
like everyone kind of liked, like
534
00:38:45.889 --> 00:38:51.409
RN being hiphop and stuff in early
s. But Anyway, be fair to
535
00:38:51.449 --> 00:38:53.170
all of us tread and looking that, I mean boys two men, was
536
00:38:54.010 --> 00:38:58.239
fire back then. Oh, absolutely, of course boys men's a little before
537
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:02.800
that where they're murdering. But no, I love boys men. I'm not
538
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:06.800
dogging on that at all. I'm
just saying that. But boys demand had
539
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.150
way more female fans than male fans. That is true. We felt.
540
00:39:10.230 --> 00:39:13.630
Yeah, yeah, I went to
their concert. I felt a little weird.
541
00:39:13.630 --> 00:39:16.389
Yeah, it's might not. I
was call I would go with my
542
00:39:16.510 --> 00:39:22.510
wife, but I wouldn't go with
you. Does that makes sense? Like
543
00:39:22.630 --> 00:39:27.900
this is weird with Chris. I
think we should go with their vegas,
544
00:39:28.019 --> 00:39:30.739
their veggest show, and then go
backstage and meet them together. Just I
545
00:39:30.780 --> 00:39:32.300
would do it. I would love
to see boys two men. Just for
546
00:39:32.420 --> 00:39:37.539
the record, I think they're the
original and the best boy band since.
547
00:39:37.650 --> 00:39:42.489
I mean I think ever. I
think they're I grew best. Okay,
548
00:39:43.409 --> 00:39:45.730
and if you haven't watched that,
oh yeah, I was thinking the same
549
00:39:45.809 --> 00:39:51.610
thing. Netflix show about based in
your recommendation. It's a wonderful it's not.
550
00:39:51.769 --> 00:39:53.559
You do. If you if you
thought you hated just Justin Timber,
551
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:58.199
like you're really a yeah, I'll
just hate them. You'll hate him so
552
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:02.239
much. Well, and and well
in specifically, like realize the genius of
553
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:07.150
what they did in the early s
to be like the wet like, you
554
00:40:07.230 --> 00:40:10.389
know, we're people are like,
you know, old white ladies were like
555
00:40:10.590 --> 00:40:15.309
scared of hiphop and that kind of
stuff going on. They're like no,
556
00:40:15.389 --> 00:40:16.670
we're going to come out here,
we're going to dress it and be in
557
00:40:16.789 --> 00:40:21.739
matching suits and we're going to have
seventy year old fans and we're going to
558
00:40:21.820 --> 00:40:25.099
yeah, ten year old fans,
like and they nailed it. They did
559
00:40:25.179 --> 00:40:30.940
an amazing job of having it like
one of the widest fan bases in the
560
00:40:30.980 --> 00:40:32.820
world. Anyway, watch that episode
on Netflix. It's awesome. All right.
561
00:40:34.139 --> 00:41:01.639
Last track is the aforementioned hands down
to break up the first day down
562
00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:23.659
straight. But, Chris Money,
we're going to you first because you were
563
00:41:23.699 --> 00:41:28.539
are drumming somehow, even though they
weren't any drums, you were doing them.
564
00:41:28.860 --> 00:41:36.010
The drums come later. Yeah,
the next album, guys, that
565
00:41:36.250 --> 00:41:38.449
that piece of that song that you
played might be one of my favorite pieces
566
00:41:38.570 --> 00:41:43.130
of any it's all good. Yeah, and I have to say this version
567
00:41:43.250 --> 00:41:50.880
is especially special for me that there's
something so amazing about the lyrics he singing
568
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.679
and how it's just so uplifting and
it makes you feel like you're right there
569
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:57.559
and that feeling when you're young and
you're on a date and things are going
570
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.909
well, it's it's great. Yeah, I mean I think you're absolutely right.
571
00:42:00.989 --> 00:42:06.590
It basically you mentioned a couple songs
ago on so impossible kind of catching
572
00:42:06.630 --> 00:42:12.230
a feeling one even just kind of
the whole thing, but this one definitely
573
00:42:12.269 --> 00:42:17.659
has a feeling to it. It
does remind me of those early dates,
574
00:42:21.179 --> 00:42:22.300
you know, some of which didn't
really go anywhere, but you hung out
575
00:42:22.340 --> 00:42:27.780
with someone kind of all night or
whatever, and and and you figured out
576
00:42:27.820 --> 00:42:30.010
if it was worth going forward or
not. And Right, and sometimes it
577
00:42:30.090 --> 00:42:34.650
was and sometimes it was it.
And this is all kind of those kind
578
00:42:34.650 --> 00:42:37.730
of things you do. We didn't
have money, see, right, got
579
00:42:37.809 --> 00:42:39.969
a run around town. You know, it's like it was going well.
580
00:42:40.010 --> 00:42:43.449
You would just like keep it going. Go to where we go next?
581
00:42:43.570 --> 00:42:45.280
Yeah, we go to waffle house
or something like. However you had to
582
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:49.559
do to just not to let it
not stop. Yeah, yeah, and
583
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.760
he just nailed it. Just really
captured that feeling, like he put it
584
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.119
in a bottle, but he put
it in this, in the song.
585
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.670
So, Kyle, what are your
thoughts on hands down, man, I
586
00:43:00.789 --> 00:43:04.469
completely agree with you guys, and
I'm just thinking, like I'm in that
587
00:43:04.630 --> 00:43:08.309
place and the time on the clock
when we realize it's too are, it's
588
00:43:08.389 --> 00:43:14.019
so late. Like yeah, you, I am immediately in a place of
589
00:43:14.059 --> 00:43:16.820
my mind and, like you,
didn't want those times to end because they
590
00:43:16.860 --> 00:43:23.699
were real, they were authentic,
like it was just so awesome to be
591
00:43:23.820 --> 00:43:28.809
having, I don't know, an
authentic moment with with someone else. And
592
00:43:30.130 --> 00:43:36.289
and Dude, the this whole outro
where he's just going off is just nailing
593
00:43:36.329 --> 00:43:40.210
it. It gives me goosebumps every
time, and I think Chris, you
594
00:43:40.329 --> 00:43:45.800
mentioned it this time and the last
time, like it's like I can smell
595
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:51.360
the air, like I am.
It's this is a freaking time machine for
596
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:57.349
me, man, like listening to
it, it's so weird how how much
597
00:43:57.349 --> 00:44:00.309
I like it. Makes me feel
young when I listened to it, in
598
00:44:00.909 --> 00:44:04.550
a wonderful way, not in like
a yeah, not in like a you
599
00:44:04.630 --> 00:44:13.739
know, not not not like in
sync. Makes you feel young, you
600
00:44:13.820 --> 00:44:17.179
know what I mean, like like
yeah, it's not like, oh,
601
00:44:17.300 --> 00:44:20.860
that just happened a long time a
go. Yeah, makes you feel like
602
00:44:20.980 --> 00:44:24.329
you felt when you listened it doesn't
not, it doesn't it doesn't feel juvenile.
603
00:44:24.530 --> 00:44:30.329
It feels it makes you feel,
it makes you feel invigorated. You
604
00:44:30.409 --> 00:44:34.570
know. Yeah, but you know
you mentioned the you mentioned the dating thing
605
00:44:34.730 --> 00:44:38.760
earlier and and I maybe how social
media's change that. I mean I think
606
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:44.440
this is another good example of I've
mentioned this, I think on the podcast
607
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:47.159
before. My wife has younger siblings
and so, you know, they're like
608
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.840
nineteen, tod and twenty three or
whatever, and then I've got younger cousins,
609
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:52.989
you know, my cousins that have
their kids that are, you know,
610
00:44:53.030 --> 00:44:55.349
dating, getting married and that kind
of age range and stuff, and
611
00:44:55.429 --> 00:44:59.630
it seems like a lot of them
don't like they don't get their license when
612
00:44:59.670 --> 00:45:02.510
they turn sixteen. They don't seem
to hang out, and I was trying
613
00:45:02.510 --> 00:45:07.340
to like discuss this with them,
my wife's siblings, because I was just
614
00:45:07.380 --> 00:45:12.659
like what is is that you guys
hang out on your phones like and feel
615
00:45:12.699 --> 00:45:16.219
like you get that social interaction because, like we couldn't like wait to get
616
00:45:16.219 --> 00:45:20.139
out of the house because I didn't
have a FI. I could I could
617
00:45:20.139 --> 00:45:22.690
do Alans to messenger, which is
definitely something I did late at night all
618
00:45:22.730 --> 00:45:28.090
the time with my buddies and girls
and stuff like that, but it didn't
619
00:45:28.090 --> 00:45:30.610
replace hanging out with people in person. And this is just like a song
620
00:45:30.690 --> 00:45:36.239
about hang out with someone in person
for hours, not like a single person.
621
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:38.440
And maybe I don't maybe that is
still going on. I'm sure it
622
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.719
does, but it does. It
seems like the group stuff happens less a
623
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:45.559
lot of times, with the generation
just kind of right below us. And
624
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:51.389
but I wonder about that. I'm
never going to sound more old than yeah,
625
00:45:51.469 --> 00:45:55.469
no, we sound like sound a
drinky but but anneals, I and
626
00:45:55.590 --> 00:45:59.789
I'll never find this article, but
I read something while back that was talking
627
00:45:59.869 --> 00:46:05.460
about for all of us included,
not just young people, but phones are
628
00:46:05.780 --> 00:46:09.260
boredom passifiers, like we don't know
how to be bored anymore or to go
629
00:46:09.300 --> 00:46:14.900
out on an adventure, because these
things are pacifying us at all times,
630
00:46:15.059 --> 00:46:20.809
and and and like. That's that's
definitely what I remember. Is Like,
631
00:46:20.889 --> 00:46:22.369
man, I'm gonna go get into
some trouble, and I didn't even mean
632
00:46:22.489 --> 00:46:24.889
trouble, you know, like I'm
gonna go find something to do back then
633
00:46:25.010 --> 00:46:29.090
and right. Yeah, and you
did it with your friends or you would
634
00:46:29.090 --> 00:46:32.880
go. You maybe meet up with
a GAL and go on a date.
635
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.880
It was awesome. A Gal and
yeah, meet up to yeah, Damn,
636
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:43.679
I was stacked up a day.
Yeah, because, like on a
637
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:45.639
Friday night, wouldn't we just like, wouldn't you just like start calling people?
638
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:47.949
Yeah, totally. Yeah, I
think that's how worked, right,
639
00:46:47.949 --> 00:46:50.789
like I would just called Blake,
hey, you have to anything tonight?
640
00:46:50.829 --> 00:46:53.190
You're out. Which Chili's we were
going to? If, and like if,
641
00:46:53.230 --> 00:46:55.429
I meant if art, if we
all one time we'd end up at
642
00:46:55.429 --> 00:46:59.829
Jenna's house, like we all played
a show, like we we'd eat.
643
00:46:59.909 --> 00:47:00.820
You know, that was just yeah, it was like, yeah, we're
644
00:47:00.820 --> 00:47:07.099
going. I hoped. I hops
the this is getting worse. I hop
645
00:47:07.179 --> 00:47:12.059
that with a Gal. How's that? PANCAKES or beverly's? You membory?
646
00:47:12.820 --> 00:47:15.730
Beverly's? Yeah, I was a
staple. All those places have food that
647
00:47:15.849 --> 00:47:19.690
was just good enough that everyone was
like, okay, yeah, I'll pay
648
00:47:19.769 --> 00:47:22.050
for it. You know, that's
fine. We all agree. That's fine.
649
00:47:22.090 --> 00:47:24.050
They've got a big menu. That's
like why. It's like Chili's was
650
00:47:24.130 --> 00:47:27.690
just the most agreeable place we could
all find a go. Yeah, and
651
00:47:27.809 --> 00:47:30.880
I'm wee sorry to the waiters and
waitresses. I'm sure I did not tip
652
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.199
you guys enough. I think I
did fine, I did my best.
653
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:37.400
I had to pay to I had
gave him what I could. YEA,
654
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:39.239
to make up for it. Now, I'm sorry, guys. Yeah,
655
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:42.639
we were young and for I think. I think we treated them. Okay,
656
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.670
I don't think. Yeah, I
mean how much you tip on eating?
657
00:47:45.750 --> 00:47:47.429
Now? That's what all you can
eat chips and salsa for five hours.
658
00:47:47.750 --> 00:47:51.030
That's exactly what I'm getting out.
I'm not saying that I didn't tip
659
00:47:51.150 --> 00:47:52.989
like the twenty percent. I'm saying
that you know, you're there for order
660
00:47:53.110 --> 00:47:59.699
like six Margaritas and you know not
choke ladder. It was like so,
661
00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:01.179
I'm not twelve, but can I
order off the kids menues? Okay,
662
00:48:01.260 --> 00:48:06.579
yeah, I just picture you doing
the endless chips and salsa for a dollar
663
00:48:06.659 --> 00:48:09.300
ninety nine back then and like,
you know what, this is a thirty
664
00:48:09.380 --> 00:48:14.010
percent tip. Yeah, yeah,
I'm beat, Kendrick. I don't know
665
00:48:14.050 --> 00:48:17.730
if Matt Kinderg ever paid for a
meal at Chili's, because not like you
666
00:48:17.889 --> 00:48:21.409
skipped the tab, like he just
sat there and waited for other people to
667
00:48:21.449 --> 00:48:24.210
finish their meal and then just ate
off their plate. Look, I don't
668
00:48:24.210 --> 00:48:30.239
know that he ever actually paid for
a dinner there when we were that age.
669
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:36.159
But yeah, I mean this song's
great and I back to back to
670
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:38.159
what we were actually going about.
You about here bringing it back whole sir,
671
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:44.590
I do remember specifically think about this
song a it was awesome. Everyone
672
00:48:44.670 --> 00:48:47.550
loved it. It was really exciting. And then I go see him and
673
00:48:47.710 --> 00:48:53.789
Weezer play on my my birthday in
two thousand and two and so I guess
674
00:48:53.829 --> 00:49:00.059
that's my nineteen birthday, and he
plays this full band electric and this is
675
00:49:00.219 --> 00:49:05.099
obviously pre markommission. Brandon scar coming
out doesn't come out for a year or
676
00:49:05.099 --> 00:49:10.050
two or something. And I mean
it was this sounds ironic or cheesy.
677
00:49:10.050 --> 00:49:15.650
It was like electrifying. It really
was. It was like special and and
678
00:49:15.849 --> 00:49:19.610
lesser. It sounds like some of
the people, you know, Kyle,
679
00:49:19.610 --> 00:49:23.599
would have said it was like they're
dylan moment going electric or something. I'm
680
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.559
not going to go that far,
but it was really cool, especially because
681
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.559
I think this song, as good
as it is on this Epi do really
682
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.320
like it. I really do like
the full band version. I think it
683
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.030
has even more power to it and
stuff. It is also freaking punk rock.
684
00:49:38.110 --> 00:49:40.750
I don't know that I mentioned that. Holy Crap. The freaking guitar
685
00:49:40.909 --> 00:49:46.269
part in the Intros just awesome.
It's really cool and I just I really
686
00:49:46.349 --> 00:49:51.469
like that it. They ramped it
up. Sometimes it's hard to do the
687
00:49:51.630 --> 00:49:53.579
like. You know, places you've
come to fear the most. Had A
688
00:49:53.619 --> 00:49:58.340
couple songs that were on Swiss Army
Romance and they had to kind of do
689
00:49:58.460 --> 00:50:02.139
the full band thing and they they
kind of ramped them up. They changed
690
00:50:02.179 --> 00:50:07.170
him, but but not a ton
really. On. Yeah, on.
691
00:50:07.409 --> 00:50:09.610
What's the other what's the song?
I mean screaming in fidelities. Obviously drums,
692
00:50:09.650 --> 00:50:15.250
but whatever. The other song was
supposed I'm just totally drew blank on
693
00:50:15.329 --> 00:50:19.010
it. But they changed about but
this one they really changed it up.
694
00:50:19.010 --> 00:50:22.079
Oh Yeah, and I'm sure that
was interscope going like you have to put
695
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:24.400
this song on the next full length
record. I mean that's why we're buying
696
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:29.440
forty nine percent of vagrant. Is
interscope going like we want? We you
697
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.199
know, which is funny because back
then when I was talking to labels,
698
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:36.630
I talked to someone interscope and they
were like he like was really down on
699
00:50:36.789 --> 00:50:39.510
dashboard and I was like your label
just bought half a vagrant to get him
700
00:50:40.110 --> 00:50:44.190
like you're the only person at your
label that's not at least you don't to
701
00:50:44.269 --> 00:50:49.829
like his music, but like someone's
excited to sell some records, for sure.
702
00:50:50.019 --> 00:50:53.980
But yeah, it's a great song
and and I like both versions of
703
00:50:54.099 --> 00:50:58.500
it. And normally when someone does
some sort of thing like this, I
704
00:50:58.539 --> 00:51:00.900
end up liking one way more than
the other, but it is kind of
705
00:51:00.980 --> 00:51:05.329
they're both really good. I'd feel
the same way it. There's not one
706
00:51:05.369 --> 00:51:07.010
I like more than the other.
I mean it's almost I don't know.
707
00:51:07.650 --> 00:51:10.969
Yeah, I'm I agree to you
hundred percent of that. I'll just like
708
00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:15.130
both versions. YEA, and this
one makes me more nostalgic. Yeah,
709
00:51:15.369 --> 00:51:17.530
he did a guitar throw at the
end of it too. It was pretty
710
00:51:17.530 --> 00:51:22.159
Boler Nice. So yeah, anyway. And then I think just was a
711
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:31.199
good little ramp up to this song, becomes the probably the bigger introduction for
712
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.829
most of his fans going forward.
Yep, anythink like absolutely, because he's
713
00:51:36.829 --> 00:51:38.429
getting pretty big at the time.
But this is right. He ends this
714
00:51:38.550 --> 00:51:42.269
part of his career with the song
and then begins the next chapter with the
715
00:51:42.309 --> 00:51:45.309
same song. Yeah, with full
band. Yeah, no, it's kind
716
00:51:45.309 --> 00:51:46.900
of I don't know, it was
it was poetic. I don't know if
717
00:51:46.940 --> 00:51:51.139
it was all planned out, but
it was brilliant and I also wonder if
718
00:51:51.139 --> 00:51:53.860
it was a thing like that he
resisted. You know, a lot of
719
00:51:53.940 --> 00:51:58.900
times when you're an artist cranking out
that much music, you probably kind to
720
00:51:58.940 --> 00:52:00.980
go like I already had to do
that on my last album, or I
721
00:52:00.019 --> 00:52:05.010
had to include a song from a
previous thing. But there's no way he
722
00:52:05.050 --> 00:52:07.289
didn't know that this wasn't something's bad, like, this is something special.
723
00:52:07.329 --> 00:52:10.929
You should really we really need a
full band version on the next record to
724
00:52:12.010 --> 00:52:14.730
kick it off, and I think
it was a wise choice, because it
725
00:52:14.849 --> 00:52:17.519
the other versions really great too.
Okay, lasting impressions, I think we
726
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.840
obviously think it holds up right,
guys. I mean it takes going back
727
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.760
to that spot, but it's still
also really good. Yep. It's unfair
728
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.320
to do it. Is this their
best album, because it's hard to compare
729
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.829
an EP. It's a lot easier
to write four songs that are good then
730
00:52:31.869 --> 00:52:36.349
it is to right ten to twelve. So I don't think it's even fair.
731
00:52:36.429 --> 00:52:38.670
But it's definitely his best EP.
It's that fair? Oh, completely
732
00:52:38.710 --> 00:52:45.460
agree. His his best short,
Short version rock opera. Yeah, by
733
00:52:45.579 --> 00:52:50.820
far. Yeah, for sure.
Here's where it's tricky. Is it their
734
00:52:50.860 --> 00:52:52.579
most important album? The reason this
is a fun question is because of the
735
00:52:52.619 --> 00:52:57.099
conversation we just had about like this
song is technically really important for him,
736
00:52:57.099 --> 00:53:00.530
but it's not necessarily this version of
the song. But I don't know,
737
00:53:00.650 --> 00:53:05.329
I think that without writing this,
obviously you wonder what happens with the next
738
00:53:05.329 --> 00:53:07.449
record because hands down was the biggest
single from it. Right, there was
739
00:53:08.210 --> 00:53:12.449
no doubt. Yeah, I mean
until the indicated came out on which was
740
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:16.199
they now lump in with Mark Mission
Brain of scar. But it was Oh,
741
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:19.360
do the on the spider man sound? Yeah, like I've got the
742
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:21.920
final and it's on the vinyl.
Okay, but yeah, but it was
743
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:23.440
technically a one off at the time. Yeah, it was just on the
744
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:27.869
spider man too soundtrack, but that
becomes a pretty big hit for him too.
745
00:53:28.150 --> 00:53:32.510
But or was that in between?
Now I'm getting that timeline mixed up.
746
00:53:32.630 --> 00:53:37.630
No, that would have been spidermans
who came out before mark mission brain
747
00:53:37.710 --> 00:53:43.460
of scar. I think. Yeah, I've got time for yeah, Oh,
748
00:53:43.539 --> 00:53:47.059
it was it. Did Mark Mission
Brain Scar come out? We should
749
00:53:47.059 --> 00:53:50.699
have done this research before we recorded
the pocket two thousand and two. I
750
00:53:50.820 --> 00:53:52.619
think two thousand and two, I
think. Oh, spider man two did
751
00:53:53.099 --> 00:53:55.409
no, Spiderman two came out two
thousand and four. Yeah, Mark,
752
00:53:55.489 --> 00:53:59.730
Missi brainscard definitely didn't come out in
two thousand and two. Oh, it
753
00:53:59.809 --> 00:54:01.250
was later, eight thousand and three. Yeah, I think two thousand and
754
00:54:01.250 --> 00:54:04.929
three. That's how that's pretty sure
the timeline I think it came out on.
755
00:54:05.050 --> 00:54:07.409
So we're probably wrong, mission brand, anyone could just look this thousand
756
00:54:07.449 --> 00:54:10.400
and three. Yeah, okay,
so I was right about that order.
757
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:14.440
So those are two pretty big singles. So I don't know, it's definitely
758
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:17.000
not his best selling or probably most
people don't know it exists. That knew
759
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:20.840
the next thing existed. So it's
probably not this most important either. What
760
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:24.269
you were what you were saying,
like it's on the dusk and summer.
761
00:54:25.190 --> 00:54:29.469
Oh, you're right, it is
dusk and summer, not mark mission.
762
00:54:29.710 --> 00:54:31.989
Yeah, that's weird. Yeah,
okay, that's that I was trying to
763
00:54:32.030 --> 00:54:36.710
get, because it was in between
the two. Okay, and so then
764
00:54:36.710 --> 00:54:39.500
the next release they just put it
on. That's one where the covery he's
765
00:54:39.539 --> 00:54:42.940
like on the beach. Yep,
you're right. Okay, I had that
766
00:54:42.980 --> 00:54:45.900
backwards. That's why I was confused. Well, it was in between.
767
00:54:45.980 --> 00:54:51.579
Yeah, we're not going to really
do desert island songs the way we normally
768
00:54:51.619 --> 00:54:53.530
do, because obviously, if you
picked two or three, also quispe,
769
00:54:53.809 --> 00:54:57.889
you get to pick one, pick
one song that you keep with you.
770
00:54:58.010 --> 00:55:02.969
Kyle. I mean it's got to
be hands down. Chris, I'm going
771
00:55:04.050 --> 00:55:09.800
so impossible. Gosh. I think
I don't do hands down, because I
772
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:15.280
think I'd actually then just take the
mark commission brand of scars, one of
773
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:19.199
my three from that record. It's
that's not place. I think he's okay,
774
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that's not the spirit. Now,
that's not on the spirit of the
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exercide. Okay, I think you're
probably right. I think it's really hard
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on this one. If I really
have to ways like one, I think
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it might be remembered to breathe for
me. I just really like that son.
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I can't. I know it in
this song of the Moss. Here's
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hands down, though I know I
was less sounds like. HMM, yeah,
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yeah, you're right. I mean
I couldn't. I mean this is
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your list, like so I know
it's mine. I've got a really pick
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it as we really went out.
No, you, no, that's not
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yours. You can't do that.
That's not your opinion. How about nobody's
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perfect. Is there is their worst
song and this four track ep no,
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never, me. No, since
it's such a concert solidated amount of time.
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Can Give me a com in Kyle
to say there's a worse line and
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we okay, that's fair. Yeah, because we basically third, I'll cut
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that line out. Yeah, there
we go. That's that's what you okay.
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What about growing out of show?
Or is there something you didn't maybe
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like at first? I mean wasn't
for me, but I like that was
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saying. Yeah, all in okay. Well, that's good to know.
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That's our opinion. We still manage
to go almost an hour on this guy.
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We we are long winded, if
nothing else. No one would ever
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accuse us of being succinct. Is
that the right word for short? I
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don't think it might not be.
I think it works okay. Anyway,
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thanks for listening, all of you, and if you're listening to this this
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week when it came out, Mary
Christmas, Happy New Year, all that
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fun stuff. We're excited to come
out with some more episodes as we enter
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our almost will be to our second
birthday in April. So just few episodes
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till we get to another. What
was gonna say? What is is it?
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You Futures, futures in April.
So you got that to look forward
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to. Hey, should we tell
him, since we know what record we're
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doing, what to listen to?
We can. Yeah, if you the
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next the next episode, we did, and then we kept forgetting to pick
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a record before we recorded them.
We're going to do stray light runs first
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record. What's it called? I
forget the name of it. Actually,
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I think it's self titled. I
think you're right. Yeah, that's why
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I forgot. So we're doing that
next. If you want to take a
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listen, that's a little bit more
of an obscure one, with John from
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taking back Sunday, post all the
drama that we've talked about. You can
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go back and listen to the taking
back Sunday episode to be a pre prefix,
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and the brand news they want to
mmm Oh, yeah, you can
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listen to the both. You can
listen to brain. No, no,
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because the brand new beef was already
happening, the taking back Sunday beef that
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happened to this was that? No, I'm listening. Your brand new episode
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would tie into the taking back that's
true. Yes, so you could have
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a little back cataloging over your Christmas
break. You can listen to the taking
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back Sunday and the brand new episodes
to prepare for stray light run and other
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than that will oh sorry, I
forgot. We got to do this part.
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You got to send US comments,
disagreements. Yeah, fact checks.
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You can get the dates right before
we can on this dash timeline. That'd
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be great. Suggestions in that stuff
at Info, finding him podcom or you
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can hit us up at twitter.
Even though we bashed on it, we
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still, I do, get the
alerts, so you can tweet us at
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finding Emil pod. You can use
that finding Emi pod for Instagram, facebook,
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all that kind of stuff too.
We like hearing from y'all. We
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love hearing your disagreements. We had
a really great one this week. Actually.
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Our buddies, my buddy Danny,
that our lead singer, Danny that
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was in the band with me and
Chris, did a Jimmy world cover tribute
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band this past weekend and while they're
a buddy of ours, came up and
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had an interesting theory about one of
the deathcap songs we talked about last time.
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And now Kyle and I his mines
are blown. So yeah, well,
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maybe talk about that on the next
death cab. Yeah, thanks,
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Matt. You guys. Oh,
Kyle. Oh, yeah, Chris isn't
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in the loop. You didn't hear
this whole thing. No, we later.
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Okay, you just have to share
it after but yeah, that's great.
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We'll share it. Jim. By
the way, the band name is
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the Jim at kids diet, which
is, you know, which Chris coined
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for his my yeah, Chris Coin
for his Jim Atkins playlist on itunes back
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in the disc for his best assure. Yeah, so I'll promise. It
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was really great. Actually, it
made me very exciting. They played firefight
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and it was awesome. Oh Man, I'm nailed it. They did nailed
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it. It was awesome and I
serius. It was like, I want
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to get my car, might be
able to catch the last song. It
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was fun. Yeah, so,
if you're in OK see and you hear
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of Jim Atkins Diet playing again,
check it out for sure. Or if
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you're not, no case, drive
here and we'll hang out and tweet us
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01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:07.989
and let us know so we can
see it. All right, that's it
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for us. Will catch you next
time. You'll have a good rest of
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your two thousand and twenty one.
All right,