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We're all going to get older, so why does our culture treat aging like one of the worst things that can happen to us and our desire?
In this episode of Do As We Say, Not As They Did, Harris O'Malley and Dr. Liz Powell are joined by Wendy Strgar, founder of Good Clean Love, women's health pioneer, author, and educator, for an unfiltered conversation about menopause, changing bodies, mismatched desire, and intimacy in long-term relationships.
Through stories from r/Menopause and r/MenopauseShedForMen, they hear from folks who are struggling to experience pleasure, others who have given up completely, and what happens when one partner believes they should get a say in how the other handles their needs.
Highlights of the episode:
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Women do belong in the kitchen (IF they're starting Good Clean Love 😉)
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When physical affection starts feeling like pressure for more
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The astounding (but not surprising) lack of research into women's health
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Why desire doesn't always show up on its own
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How we can substitute connection with arguing
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Why curiosity might be the secret to staying connected
Wisdom may come with age, but becoming a pro at relationships and intimacy certainly doesn't. Tune in to learn the importance of staying curious even as your body changes and always communicating honestly with your partner.
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About Wendy Strgar
Wendy Strgar is an award-winning serial entrepreneur and founder of three women's health companies: Omnichannel consumer brand Good Clean Love, biotechnology women's health pioneer in vaginal biome science, and telemedicine platform Good Clean Clinical Care.
Under her leadership, Good Clean Love was distinguished by PETA as working for regulatory change. Her lubricants have been named in a National Institutes of Health study as among the safest in the market, and they are now the number one selling natural organic brand in the United States, with products on more than 40,000 store shelves.
She is a self-proclaimed lovologist, sexual health educator, and author of three books: Love That Works, Sex That Works, and the upcoming Life Bewildered. She was named in the 2025 Forbes 50 Over 50 list and named a visionary leader in multiple awards.
You can find her and her companies at:
Good Clean Love: https://goodcleanlove.com/
Substack: https://substack.com/@wendystrgar
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wendy.strgar/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wendystrgar
Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Wendy-Strgar/author/B005CD92ZE
Time Stamps
00:00 – Welcome to Do As We Say, Not As They Did
01:00 – Meet today's guest: Wendy Strgar, founder of Good Clean Love
03:00 – How personal experiences inspired Good Clean Love
05:00 – The concerning ingredients in some lubricants
08:00 – How Wendy started the company in her kitchen
10:00 – How the body changes after menopause
14:00 – Mismatched desire in long-term relationships
18:00 – Using arguments as a substitute for connection
20:00 – Spontaneous vs responsive desire
30:00 – Everybody deserves pleasure
35:00 – Reddit Story #1: "I need a jackhammer"
44:00 – Aging and grieving as your body changes
50:00 – Reddit Story #2: "If I never had intimacy again, I would be content"
52:00 – Problems in the bedroom rarely start there
01:04:00 – Reddit Story #3: "Wife wants me to lower my libido"
01:08:00 – When you need to renegotiate a relationship
01:13:00 – Different ways to enjoy intimacy
01:20:00 – Supporting a menopausal partner without erasing your own needs
01:23:00 – How to navigate different desires in a relationship
01:29:00 – Where to find Wendy, Harris, and Liz
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