00:00:00Misconceptions and Cardi B in LGBTQ+
00:06:04Consent and Boundaries in Performance
00:11:56Misconceptions and Stereotypes in LGBTQ+ Community
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Buckle up as we delve into boundary-crossing behaviors at concerts with our seasoned performer guest, Dr. Beverly Boyarsky aka Silver Foxx. Listen to her captivating stories of audacious audience antics, offering a unique perspective on the recent Cardi B concert debacle. Together, we dissect the ill-effects of entitled behavior at performances and underline the non-negotiable importance of respect and consent.
Delving deeper, we also dissect the LGBT+ community's misconceptions and stereotypes, with a laser focus on our lesbian sisters. Hear as we dismantle harmful assumptions like all lesbians are 'U-Haul' lesbians and lesbians don't like men. Our conversation with Dr. Beverly Boyarsky extends to discuss the internal division within the LGBTQ+ community, particularly the dismissal of lesbians by gay men. Engage with us as we challenge these assumptions and strive towards a more understanding and inclusive community.
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Speaker 1:
0:00
Do you want to be a man? So that's one that comes up to me a lot or who's the man in your relationship? A lot of them is that I hate men or that I've had a bad relationship with my father and all of a sudden somebody threw money right in my face.
Speaker 2:
0:19
Let me tell you I had to woo-sah because my mom went to a different dimension. This is Common Courtesy a conversation on modern society from an LGBTQ plus perspective. A talk show for working LGBTQ plus individuals and allies who are active in their own communities and who also wish to stay woke about what's happening in today's world With your host, jean Nicholas. If he's creating a separate night for trans performers, is that not inclusive? Or, nikki Prue, the positive, good vibes coming off of you and this whole topic. It makes me very happy, angelique Young, that everybody was kind of in a good spirit and then they heard that the honor was coming and the alignment went differently.
Speaker 3:
1:21
I had a crush on my best friend in school. I flirted with him. Allegedly From the stories that I heard.
Speaker 2:
1:30
The weak ass joke. Hold on, hold on, hold on. So let's start the conversation. This is an opinion-based show, not a news outlet. The views and opinions of the guests on Common Curious TV solely reflect their opinion and or experience, and not of Common Curious TV or any of its affiliates or hosts. Hello everyone and welcome back to Common Curious TV. A conversation on modern society from an LGBTQ plus perspective. A talk show, if you will, for the working LGBTQ plus person and our allies who are already involved in our communities and they want to stay woke about what's happening in our modern day society and they want to hear from a gay perspective. I am your host, jean Nicholas. I am an actor. I am a sobriety advocate. This is our season finale. We are talking a little bit about Cardi B and the Mike toss. Everybody's talking about that. We're going to get into that a little bit. We're also talking about misconceptions that society has about lesbians and we have a special guest I want to welcome to our panel. We have someone who's been in our community and in the community in New Jersey and New York for a very long time. I'm pleased to have Dr Beverly Boyarski, aka Silver Fox. Welcome to our panel.
Speaker 1:
3:13
Thank you, sean, it's really great to be here.
Speaker 2:
3:17
Thank you, I'm glad to have you here as well. I've met you a couple of times out there under your guys, silver Fox. If I hadn't met you before, dr Bev, can you give us a little bit of a background?
Speaker 1:
3:31
Well, I'm originally from Northern New Jersey and I moved to Long Island, New York, for 30 years and over those years I did public relations, was a spokesperson not only for the companies I worked for, but also for the LGBTQ community. For many decades I've been a musician. I've done just about everything. I got my doctorate degree in 2010 in medical science, became a hypnotherapist. But when I moved to Florida three years ago, I brought back my drag career and I know it's been a long time, but I started my drag career in 1989 and just started it up. So I'm a little bit older than most of the drag kings out here.
Speaker 2:
4:15
So tell me a little about that Metaphysician. What does that entail? Just a little bit You're a hypnotherapist as well.
Speaker 1:
4:24
Okay, it's a branch of philosophy I have my PhD where you look into things that are not seen, and it's a form of religion, even though it is a science, and, again, it's things that are not apparent to you, so it's very spiritual and I look at my clients to diagnose them with issues that maybe other doctors can't find, because it's something in the subconscious mind and a hypnotherapist. That was something that just so happened to me after getting my PhD and I've been doing that also since 2010 and loving every minute of it.
Speaker 2:
5:05
All right. So I wanted to talk about something with you, dr Bev, because we've been seeing this all summer, and most recently we saw what happened at Cardi B's Las Vegas concert, which first she appeared to be asking people to throw water on her because it was hot and then, while she was performing, Bo Dic Gallo, a concert goer, then threw water on her. So let's take a look at that clip. So that's what ensued a couple of weeks ago. All right, but this is also a thing, that's a phenomenon, that's happening with celebrities, like you've seen it through Skittles at Harry Styles, they threw chicken nuggets at his ass. They also threw a phone at BV Rexha and she had to get stitches. So I'm a former dragon form and I've been acting for a very long, for a long time since I was a kid. I want to ask you, silver Fox, and even as your earlier personas, has this ever happened to you?
Speaker 1:
6:19
I haven't had anything thrown at me, but I've had people be inappropriate or just cross the line. I remember performing on stage and I was a lead singer in bands for many decades and somebody just walked on stage and grabbed the microphone out of my mouth and it's just like entitlement. But as a drag king now I have people that cross the line. You know, at the beginning of every drag show we say it's about being respectful and you don't touch me. And if I go to touch you and you don't want me to, you say no, please don't.
Speaker 2:
7:01
There's consent. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:
7:03
Consent Consentral Recently at a show locally. I was in the middle of my performance and all of a sudden I get this woman and she throws herself at me Plants went on my lips, grabs me and totally disrupts me my train of thought. I mean, I carried on but her wife was watching and I'm like are you kidding? And another time, another person, another woman, came over to me and actually ripped my shirt open to throw money down.
Speaker 2:
7:36
I mean thank you, but no.
Speaker 1:
7:38
Right, no, so it's this like, I think, with the concerts people feel well, I paid all this money, I could do what I want, You're mine for that two hours that I'm at a concert and I feel the same way here. You know they're paying me, they're giving me dollars or five dollars, whatever they're giving me, and you're mine, so I can do as I wish. And that's not the case. I've gotten very angry. I mean, I try, especially during drag, I try to play it cool and usually if there's security or something, somebody will pull them off of me. But I don't. I don't think it's okay at all. I mean, it makes me nervous at times.
Speaker 2:
8:19
Absolutely not, because, especially you know, because some I've heard different talking heads out there saying reasons why, as to why people are throwing fucking cell phones at people. Let me tell you something, barton as well If you throw a drink at me, you're getting your ass kicked. Okay, we're doing this shit, I don't care, I will lose this job, beating that ass. There's no reason unless, like there's one thing with Cardi right, they can say that you know, oh, she was asking for it. That's like when, that's like how consent goes right. If a girl, whenever a girl says no, anything that happens after that is considered right. So it's almost like the same thing with Cardi. And she was asking, she like, yeah, throw this shit on my ass a little bit. Yeah, she was asking for it. And, just like you said, when that person ran up to you and kissed you and dragged, it, threw you off. So when that person threw that water, that drink, at Cardi, it threw her ass off too, and it would make me fucking bad too, because it's hard to remember these lyrics. Okay, you know, and you throw in fucking water at my ass, you know. And Cardi, real quick, she kind of like went to hood really fast.
Speaker 3:
9:30
She threw that damn mic.
Speaker 2:
9:32
So if it had like a little boomerang or it came back at him, it would have came back to him like, ah, you know, but I think that her Italian like that was absolutely called for because I think they were investigating her for a battery. But I think that because it wasn't the person that she hit that threw the drink, and somebody that it was somebody that, yeah, it ricocheted the microphone, ricocheted it to her, but I'm like that still it doesn't really have any intent. She didn't try to hit you, you know, but any.
Speaker 1:
10:01
And the person that got the microphone is selling it. It's up to like a hundred thousand dollars right now, which is ironic Right now.
Speaker 2:
10:08
Yeah, but I think that you bring up an interesting topic because I've seen I've used to do Dragon's in Pittsburgh and it's almost like that you're a seed level celebrity and people want to get close to you because you're performing on stage and whether it's money or whatnot, for me it's all about level consent. Here's one thing that, almost like Cardi, I was bartending, I was working at a strip club, right, and one of the stripper girls I kept telling her she's drinking too much, right. I told her that and she's like I'm going to try to cheer Shana, so I'm making like a margarita, you know, pour some drinks, real, you know, normal like. And all of a sudden somebody threw money right in my mother's fucking face. Let me tell you I almost I had the woosa because my mind went to a different dimension, because I felt like Cardi, because, like you saw her face, she was like bitch, hold on. I'm like what are you thinking? So people feel like they have this access to you. There's a problem going on in St Peter's and everywhere you know I want to ask you know, should we, should we start putting people through like Sacky vows, you know, before they go into? You know what I mean, Before they go to a concert, you know. Or they go into a gay establishment, like what do you think?
Speaker 1:
11:26
I think it's a funny question but it's crazy because I know I'm from New York, so I go on New York. On people, I mean recently somebody came up to me and I'm like don't you dare. You know, even as a singer, you know I'd come off the stage and guys would grab my ass, Like you wouldn't do that normally. Like what is that about? So I mean, I think, with clubs, Well, I know, I know for most concerts and a lot of clubs, you know they make you go through metal detectors. Well, people have these phones and they have different things and skittles, I don't know. Yes it'll. I don't know. I just think it's just wrong. It's just our gen? I know it's the new generation, or if it's just, I think it's all about entitlement. I've been saying that for years that the newer generation, the younger generation, are very entitled and they get what they want and they do what they want. So that's an issue. And does it start from the home? Probably it's what they see.
Speaker 2:
12:26
I'm talking to talk.
Speaker 1:
12:27
They see it on tiktok, on social media. You know all these crazy things. They have these crazy shows. So you begin to wonder about that. You know, I think it's there's something very wrong in society.
Speaker 2:
12:39
Yeah, okay what? I'm sure you plug and you throw money at me. You make it rain. Okay, you about that. Okay you dance a little bit more. You dance a little bit oh the baby. But when you're not asking for that attention and people cross that line and they feel like it's okay, I think that sometimes it has a lot to do with Drugs and alcohol. You know, because that girl with Cardi, she they there's a video of her Apologize it because she almost got that ass beat. So I'm sorry, you know, but I think that plays into it as well. But I think that needs to be something that we're all Talking about and having a safe space to do so, because there's one thing you make a mistake. You know some people. I think our community deals a lot with mental health- or me. Do with the concert thing, though I think that is something going on. It's a phenomenon needs to stop. I think it'd be. It could be very dangerous, because if they're not stopping people from throwing Cell phones because baby likes to have the it stitches, you know, can I stop you to do that? I'm afraid to see what someone's going to do next. Well, we ran out of time for our first part of our episode. We're gonna hear from Tampa Bay, gay and Dave Borman about what's happening in our Bay area this week. We'll see you guys in just a moment, hey.
Speaker 3:
14:07
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Speaker 2:
15:31
There's a topic that you brought up and that I think is very interesting misconceptions of the society has about Lesbians, so let's get into it. What are some misconceptions that have been brought forth to you?
Speaker 1:
15:47
one of them is Do you want to be a man?
Speaker 3:
15:52
No.
Speaker 1:
15:53
I am a woman, but I love women, and no, I don't want to be men, so that's one that comes up to me a lot. Or who's the man in your relationship? Oh yeah, that's a big one. It's like really no, it's crazy. And a lot of them is that I hate men or that I've had a bad relationship with my father, or I know this is true, though for some. A lot of women have been sexually abused by men in their lives. So, but I was born this way, it didn't just happen. I wouldn't have chosen this life. So. But I've been gay since I remember I was five years old. I've known. So it's just some people, they just don't understand it. I think being a lesbian is all about sex and it's not that at all. It's part of who I am, just like someone is heterosexual and gay, and it's crazy. Are you a U-Haul lesbian? All lesbians are U-Haul lesbians.
Speaker 2:
17:04
That's the one I was going to bring up. I was, I mean because it's like, the first meeting after that date is the U-Haul. I wanted to ask you a little bit about these misconceptions. So when someone comes to you with that because I can relate as a gay man when someone comes to you with one of those, let's say, who is the man in a relationship or do you want to be a man? How does that make you feel on the inside?
Speaker 1:
17:33
I've kind of become numb to it. I mean, I'm at an age now where things don't bother me anymore. I think I've heard everything. So it's just someone that's not educated that's asking me a question, or maybe it's somebody who just wants to know something. So educate them. I tell them the facts, and usually they're good with it.
Speaker 2:
17:55
I mean, I know this is not true. I think it's just a stereotype and it's a silly joke, but I'm going to ask anyways. But is it true that some lesbians the next day they're just moving in together as an impulsive relationship?
Speaker 1:
18:10
Well, yes, I know a few that have done that. I'm not one of those people, but I've heard of the first date lasting for a week and next thing you know they're moving in together. It was just one of those things. Does it always work? No, I'm also a minister, so when marriage equality first passed, I started marrying a lot of same-sex couples. And because marriage was legal back then, a lot of young lesbian couples came to me and said they wanted to get married and I said, well, how long have you been together? Oh, three months. And I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:
18:48
Slow down a little bit.
Speaker 1:
18:50
This is like marriage it's legal. It's not so easy to get divorced. So you know that you call lesbian myth, which isn't so much a myth. But I think the majority of lesbians don't do that. But you know you're always going to have those few. But how many straight couples might do the same thing? You?
Speaker 2:
19:07
know, it's just something that's come.
Speaker 1:
19:08
It's something that's said about lesbians all the time.
Speaker 2:
19:11
Yeah, and I think that the one thing, one of some reasons why is we don't have a lot of lesbian voices in our community and the law in the community, you know, and especially not so much in this one as well, you know, we don't get a chance to hear so much from that part of our community. So I wanted to ask you know this is the one thing I really wanted to get into that lesbians don't like men, and this is this is one that I wrote down that gay men don't like lesbians. Let's talk about that Like for you, you know. Do you know some lesbians that perhaps aren't that fond of men, or gay men in general, or have you run into that type of thing?
Speaker 1:
19:56
I have met a few. I also have some lesbian friends that don't want straight friends. Doesn't matter gay, straight, they just don't want men in their life. But for myself, I've personally come across issues with gay men. I've had some very close gay men in my life but I have to tell you I seem to be the outcast. I had the honor of working for the Gay Games Forum 1994 in New York City and I was one of two women in the whole office with like 60 gay men, and it took a while for them to accept me. It didn't matter that I was gay or I was working with them, but that I was a woman. And the funny story is that the reason they accepted me it was the middle of the summer and I was bodybuilding at the time and I was wearing a suit like we're supposed to do at work and I remember taking my jacket off and I had muscles and, as all the guys oh my God, girl, I didn't know you looked like that under there. Well then, I was their best friend. They invited me to fire out all the parties and I was having the best summer of my life. But it's interesting, you know, again, I have a few gay men friends. I want more and, being in the drag community, I have a lot more now and I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2:
21:15
Yeah, I think that sometimes we there's some gay men who are like that, that don't wanna bring lesbian to the part of the conversation, and I think that mm. I don't know where that comes from, but then I heard from the other side as well, like, cause some girls out there feel like we hear too much from that. I think that's something that I've seen a lot in our community here in New York City sorry, in New York City and here in Tampa Bay. I want where do you think that disconnect, like you know you don't wanna invite these people to the party like why do you think that within our own community we have that type of like low thing? We just gotta admit it.
Speaker 1:
22:00
I really don't know. I mean again, I have friends that just don't want anything to do with gay men and I'll invite gay men to come to different things. I mean again, you're my friend, man, woman, straight, gay, it doesn't matter. But I don't know if there's a competition there or whatever. I mean I know it's straight men. I'm like their wingman sometimes it's funny. But I don't know, I really don't. Personally, I don't get it. I don't know what the answer is.
Speaker 2:
22:32
Yeah, and I wanna know how we can find a resolution. Like you know, I think that like an open conversation, more open conversation as to why there's this disconnect in all the intricacies of our community, cause it's sorry, it is the LGBTQ plus community, but not everybody gets along with each other. Like you know, and I think that's something we have to talk about, there's a diagnoses in our own community and I don't think we should be afraid to bring them up. We ran out of time for this topic and this episode. I want to thank everybody for taking the listen. I wanna thank Dave Bormans, our sponsor, for our commercial. I want to thank our very special guest, dr Beverly Boyarsky, aka Silver Fox, and you can catch Silver Fox in our Bay Area LGBTQ plus spaces. You can find Silver. I don't know where you're performing Next. Silver, tell us where you're, we can find you next.
Speaker 1:
23:37
I'll be over at Zippers in two weeks on a Sunday to do a benefit show, and I'm actually just getting now ready to do my first pageant. So wait and see what I'll be doing.
Speaker 2:
23:51
Okay, all right, all right, all right, I'll be supporting you and I hope to see you soon again. Guys, we'll see you guys next time and until then, always try to have a little bit more common courtesy. Have a good week.
0:00
Do you want to be a man? So that's one that comes up to me a lot or who's the man in your relationship? A lot of them is that I hate men or that I've had a bad relationship with my father and all of a sudden somebody threw money right in my face.
Speaker 2:
0:19
Let me tell you I had to woo-sah because my mom went to a different dimension. This is Common Courtesy a conversation on modern society from an LGBTQ plus perspective. A talk show for working LGBTQ plus individuals and allies who are active in their own communities and who also wish to stay woke about what's happening in today's world With your host, jean Nicholas. If he's creating a separate night for trans performers, is that not inclusive? Or, nikki Prue, the positive, good vibes coming off of you and this whole topic. It makes me very happy, angelique Young, that everybody was kind of in a good spirit and then they heard that the honor was coming and the alignment went differently.
Speaker 3:
1:21
I had a crush on my best friend in school. I flirted with him. Allegedly From the stories that I heard.
Speaker 2:
1:30
The weak ass joke. Hold on, hold on, hold on. So let's start the conversation. This is an opinion-based show, not a news outlet. The views and opinions of the guests on Common Curious TV solely reflect their opinion and or experience, and not of Common Curious TV or any of its affiliates or hosts. Hello everyone and welcome back to Common Curious TV. A conversation on modern society from an LGBTQ plus perspective. A talk show, if you will, for the working LGBTQ plus person and our allies who are already involved in our communities and they want to stay woke about what's happening in our modern day society and they want to hear from a gay perspective. I am your host, jean Nicholas. I am an actor. I am a sobriety advocate. This is our season finale. We are talking a little bit about Cardi B and the Mike toss. Everybody's talking about that. We're going to get into that a little bit. We're also talking about misconceptions that society has about lesbians and we have a special guest I want to welcome to our panel. We have someone who's been in our community and in the community in New Jersey and New York for a very long time. I'm pleased to have Dr Beverly Boyarski, aka Silver Fox. Welcome to our panel.
Speaker 1:
3:13
Thank you, sean, it's really great to be here.
Speaker 2:
3:17
Thank you, I'm glad to have you here as well. I've met you a couple of times out there under your guys, silver Fox. If I hadn't met you before, dr Bev, can you give us a little bit of a background?
Speaker 1:
3:31
Well, I'm originally from Northern New Jersey and I moved to Long Island, New York, for 30 years and over those years I did public relations, was a spokesperson not only for the companies I worked for, but also for the LGBTQ community. For many decades I've been a musician. I've done just about everything. I got my doctorate degree in 2010 in medical science, became a hypnotherapist. But when I moved to Florida three years ago, I brought back my drag career and I know it's been a long time, but I started my drag career in 1989 and just started it up. So I'm a little bit older than most of the drag kings out here.
Speaker 2:
4:15
So tell me a little about that Metaphysician. What does that entail? Just a little bit You're a hypnotherapist as well.
Speaker 1:
4:24
Okay, it's a branch of philosophy I have my PhD where you look into things that are not seen, and it's a form of religion, even though it is a science, and, again, it's things that are not apparent to you, so it's very spiritual and I look at my clients to diagnose them with issues that maybe other doctors can't find, because it's something in the subconscious mind and a hypnotherapist. That was something that just so happened to me after getting my PhD and I've been doing that also since 2010 and loving every minute of it.
Speaker 2:
5:05
All right. So I wanted to talk about something with you, dr Bev, because we've been seeing this all summer, and most recently we saw what happened at Cardi B's Las Vegas concert, which first she appeared to be asking people to throw water on her because it was hot and then, while she was performing, Bo Dic Gallo, a concert goer, then threw water on her. So let's take a look at that clip. So that's what ensued a couple of weeks ago. All right, but this is also a thing, that's a phenomenon, that's happening with celebrities, like you've seen it through Skittles at Harry Styles, they threw chicken nuggets at his ass. They also threw a phone at BV Rexha and she had to get stitches. So I'm a former dragon form and I've been acting for a very long, for a long time since I was a kid. I want to ask you, silver Fox, and even as your earlier personas, has this ever happened to you?
Speaker 1:
6:19
I haven't had anything thrown at me, but I've had people be inappropriate or just cross the line. I remember performing on stage and I was a lead singer in bands for many decades and somebody just walked on stage and grabbed the microphone out of my mouth and it's just like entitlement. But as a drag king now I have people that cross the line. You know, at the beginning of every drag show we say it's about being respectful and you don't touch me. And if I go to touch you and you don't want me to, you say no, please don't.
Speaker 2:
7:01
There's consent. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:
7:03
Consent Consentral Recently at a show locally. I was in the middle of my performance and all of a sudden I get this woman and she throws herself at me Plants went on my lips, grabs me and totally disrupts me my train of thought. I mean, I carried on but her wife was watching and I'm like are you kidding? And another time, another person, another woman, came over to me and actually ripped my shirt open to throw money down.
Speaker 2:
7:36
I mean thank you, but no.
Speaker 1:
7:38
Right, no, so it's this like, I think, with the concerts people feel well, I paid all this money, I could do what I want, You're mine for that two hours that I'm at a concert and I feel the same way here. You know they're paying me, they're giving me dollars or five dollars, whatever they're giving me, and you're mine, so I can do as I wish. And that's not the case. I've gotten very angry. I mean, I try, especially during drag, I try to play it cool and usually if there's security or something, somebody will pull them off of me. But I don't. I don't think it's okay at all. I mean, it makes me nervous at times.
Speaker 2:
8:19
Absolutely not, because, especially you know, because some I've heard different talking heads out there saying reasons why, as to why people are throwing fucking cell phones at people. Let me tell you something, barton as well If you throw a drink at me, you're getting your ass kicked. Okay, we're doing this shit, I don't care, I will lose this job, beating that ass. There's no reason unless, like there's one thing with Cardi right, they can say that you know, oh, she was asking for it. That's like when, that's like how consent goes right. If a girl, whenever a girl says no, anything that happens after that is considered right. So it's almost like the same thing with Cardi. And she was asking, she like, yeah, throw this shit on my ass a little bit. Yeah, she was asking for it. And, just like you said, when that person ran up to you and kissed you and dragged, it, threw you off. So when that person threw that water, that drink, at Cardi, it threw her ass off too, and it would make me fucking bad too, because it's hard to remember these lyrics. Okay, you know, and you throw in fucking water at my ass, you know. And Cardi, real quick, she kind of like went to hood really fast.
Speaker 3:
9:30
She threw that damn mic.
Speaker 2:
9:32
So if it had like a little boomerang or it came back at him, it would have came back to him like, ah, you know, but I think that her Italian like that was absolutely called for because I think they were investigating her for a battery. But I think that because it wasn't the person that she hit that threw the drink, and somebody that it was somebody that, yeah, it ricocheted the microphone, ricocheted it to her, but I'm like that still it doesn't really have any intent. She didn't try to hit you, you know, but any.
Speaker 1:
10:01
And the person that got the microphone is selling it. It's up to like a hundred thousand dollars right now, which is ironic Right now.
Speaker 2:
10:08
Yeah, but I think that you bring up an interesting topic because I've seen I've used to do Dragon's in Pittsburgh and it's almost like that you're a seed level celebrity and people want to get close to you because you're performing on stage and whether it's money or whatnot, for me it's all about level consent. Here's one thing that, almost like Cardi, I was bartending, I was working at a strip club, right, and one of the stripper girls I kept telling her she's drinking too much, right. I told her that and she's like I'm going to try to cheer Shana, so I'm making like a margarita, you know, pour some drinks, real, you know, normal like. And all of a sudden somebody threw money right in my mother's fucking face. Let me tell you I almost I had the woosa because my mind went to a different dimension, because I felt like Cardi, because, like you saw her face, she was like bitch, hold on. I'm like what are you thinking? So people feel like they have this access to you. There's a problem going on in St Peter's and everywhere you know I want to ask you know, should we, should we start putting people through like Sacky vows, you know, before they go into? You know what I mean, Before they go to a concert, you know. Or they go into a gay establishment, like what do you think?
Speaker 1:
11:26
I think it's a funny question but it's crazy because I know I'm from New York, so I go on New York. On people, I mean recently somebody came up to me and I'm like don't you dare. You know, even as a singer, you know I'd come off the stage and guys would grab my ass, Like you wouldn't do that normally. Like what is that about? So I mean, I think, with clubs, Well, I know, I know for most concerts and a lot of clubs, you know they make you go through metal detectors. Well, people have these phones and they have different things and skittles, I don't know. Yes it'll. I don't know. I just think it's just wrong. It's just our gen? I know it's the new generation, or if it's just, I think it's all about entitlement. I've been saying that for years that the newer generation, the younger generation, are very entitled and they get what they want and they do what they want. So that's an issue. And does it start from the home? Probably it's what they see.
Speaker 2:
12:26
I'm talking to talk.
Speaker 1:
12:27
They see it on tiktok, on social media. You know all these crazy things. They have these crazy shows. So you begin to wonder about that. You know, I think it's there's something very wrong in society.
Speaker 2:
12:39
Yeah, okay what? I'm sure you plug and you throw money at me. You make it rain. Okay, you about that. Okay you dance a little bit more. You dance a little bit oh the baby. But when you're not asking for that attention and people cross that line and they feel like it's okay, I think that sometimes it has a lot to do with Drugs and alcohol. You know, because that girl with Cardi, she they there's a video of her Apologize it because she almost got that ass beat. So I'm sorry, you know, but I think that plays into it as well. But I think that needs to be something that we're all Talking about and having a safe space to do so, because there's one thing you make a mistake. You know some people. I think our community deals a lot with mental health- or me. Do with the concert thing, though I think that is something going on. It's a phenomenon needs to stop. I think it'd be. It could be very dangerous, because if they're not stopping people from throwing Cell phones because baby likes to have the it stitches, you know, can I stop you to do that? I'm afraid to see what someone's going to do next. Well, we ran out of time for our first part of our episode. We're gonna hear from Tampa Bay, gay and Dave Borman about what's happening in our Bay area this week. We'll see you guys in just a moment, hey.
Speaker 3:
14:07
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Speaker 2:
15:31
There's a topic that you brought up and that I think is very interesting misconceptions of the society has about Lesbians, so let's get into it. What are some misconceptions that have been brought forth to you?
Speaker 1:
15:47
one of them is Do you want to be a man?
Speaker 3:
15:52
No.
Speaker 1:
15:53
I am a woman, but I love women, and no, I don't want to be men, so that's one that comes up to me a lot. Or who's the man in your relationship? Oh yeah, that's a big one. It's like really no, it's crazy. And a lot of them is that I hate men or that I've had a bad relationship with my father, or I know this is true, though for some. A lot of women have been sexually abused by men in their lives. So, but I was born this way, it didn't just happen. I wouldn't have chosen this life. So. But I've been gay since I remember I was five years old. I've known. So it's just some people, they just don't understand it. I think being a lesbian is all about sex and it's not that at all. It's part of who I am, just like someone is heterosexual and gay, and it's crazy. Are you a U-Haul lesbian? All lesbians are U-Haul lesbians.
Speaker 2:
17:04
That's the one I was going to bring up. I was, I mean because it's like, the first meeting after that date is the U-Haul. I wanted to ask you a little bit about these misconceptions. So when someone comes to you with that because I can relate as a gay man when someone comes to you with one of those, let's say, who is the man in a relationship or do you want to be a man? How does that make you feel on the inside?
Speaker 1:
17:33
I've kind of become numb to it. I mean, I'm at an age now where things don't bother me anymore. I think I've heard everything. So it's just someone that's not educated that's asking me a question, or maybe it's somebody who just wants to know something. So educate them. I tell them the facts, and usually they're good with it.
Speaker 2:
17:55
I mean, I know this is not true. I think it's just a stereotype and it's a silly joke, but I'm going to ask anyways. But is it true that some lesbians the next day they're just moving in together as an impulsive relationship?
Speaker 1:
18:10
Well, yes, I know a few that have done that. I'm not one of those people, but I've heard of the first date lasting for a week and next thing you know they're moving in together. It was just one of those things. Does it always work? No, I'm also a minister, so when marriage equality first passed, I started marrying a lot of same-sex couples. And because marriage was legal back then, a lot of young lesbian couples came to me and said they wanted to get married and I said, well, how long have you been together? Oh, three months. And I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:
18:48
Slow down a little bit.
Speaker 1:
18:50
This is like marriage it's legal. It's not so easy to get divorced. So you know that you call lesbian myth, which isn't so much a myth. But I think the majority of lesbians don't do that. But you know you're always going to have those few. But how many straight couples might do the same thing? You?
Speaker 2:
19:07
know, it's just something that's come.
Speaker 1:
19:08
It's something that's said about lesbians all the time.
Speaker 2:
19:11
Yeah, and I think that the one thing, one of some reasons why is we don't have a lot of lesbian voices in our community and the law in the community, you know, and especially not so much in this one as well, you know, we don't get a chance to hear so much from that part of our community. So I wanted to ask you know this is the one thing I really wanted to get into that lesbians don't like men, and this is this is one that I wrote down that gay men don't like lesbians. Let's talk about that Like for you, you know. Do you know some lesbians that perhaps aren't that fond of men, or gay men in general, or have you run into that type of thing?
Speaker 1:
19:56
I have met a few. I also have some lesbian friends that don't want straight friends. Doesn't matter gay, straight, they just don't want men in their life. But for myself, I've personally come across issues with gay men. I've had some very close gay men in my life but I have to tell you I seem to be the outcast. I had the honor of working for the Gay Games Forum 1994 in New York City and I was one of two women in the whole office with like 60 gay men, and it took a while for them to accept me. It didn't matter that I was gay or I was working with them, but that I was a woman. And the funny story is that the reason they accepted me it was the middle of the summer and I was bodybuilding at the time and I was wearing a suit like we're supposed to do at work and I remember taking my jacket off and I had muscles and, as all the guys oh my God, girl, I didn't know you looked like that under there. Well then, I was their best friend. They invited me to fire out all the parties and I was having the best summer of my life. But it's interesting, you know, again, I have a few gay men friends. I want more and, being in the drag community, I have a lot more now and I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2:
21:15
Yeah, I think that sometimes we there's some gay men who are like that, that don't wanna bring lesbian to the part of the conversation, and I think that mm. I don't know where that comes from, but then I heard from the other side as well, like, cause some girls out there feel like we hear too much from that. I think that's something that I've seen a lot in our community here in New York City sorry, in New York City and here in Tampa Bay. I want where do you think that disconnect, like you know you don't wanna invite these people to the party like why do you think that within our own community we have that type of like low thing? We just gotta admit it.
Speaker 1:
22:00
I really don't know. I mean again, I have friends that just don't want anything to do with gay men and I'll invite gay men to come to different things. I mean again, you're my friend, man, woman, straight, gay, it doesn't matter. But I don't know if there's a competition there or whatever. I mean I know it's straight men. I'm like their wingman sometimes it's funny. But I don't know, I really don't. Personally, I don't get it. I don't know what the answer is.
Speaker 2:
22:32
Yeah, and I wanna know how we can find a resolution. Like you know, I think that like an open conversation, more open conversation as to why there's this disconnect in all the intricacies of our community, cause it's sorry, it is the LGBTQ plus community, but not everybody gets along with each other. Like you know, and I think that's something we have to talk about, there's a diagnoses in our own community and I don't think we should be afraid to bring them up. We ran out of time for this topic and this episode. I want to thank everybody for taking the listen. I wanna thank Dave Bormans, our sponsor, for our commercial. I want to thank our very special guest, dr Beverly Boyarsky, aka Silver Fox, and you can catch Silver Fox in our Bay Area LGBTQ plus spaces. You can find Silver. I don't know where you're performing Next. Silver, tell us where you're, we can find you next.
Speaker 1:
23:37
I'll be over at Zippers in two weeks on a Sunday to do a benefit show, and I'm actually just getting now ready to do my first pageant. So wait and see what I'll be doing.
Speaker 2:
23:51
Okay, all right, all right, all right, I'll be supporting you and I hope to see you soon again. Guys, we'll see you guys next time and until then, always try to have a little bit more common courtesy. Have a good week.
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