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[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, and welcome to the C3 Podcast Code Conscious Conversations.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm Dr. Lisa Piper, here with Wendy Cona's Born We Are The Founders of Code Health.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Today, on the C3 Code Conscious Conversations, we are honored to welcome Bear and Anana Thomas Perez.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Co-founders and executive publishers of awakened souls media and awakened souls magazine, a global consciousness, wellness, and human potential platform reaching readers,
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[SPEAKER_03]: in over 60 countries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As husband and wife, they've built an integrated media ecosystem devoted to whole human well-being, conscious storytelling, and embodied growth, bridging science, spirituality, creativity, and culture.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Both bring powerful, lived experience to this work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bears journey spans professional rugby, corporate IT and cyber security, deep spiritual awakening, surviving strokes and rebuilding identity through presence and purpose.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ananas Path includes early loss, resilience, global business leadership, motherhood of four, and a lifelong vow to
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[SPEAKER_03]: through empathy and conscious connection.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Together, they've created more than a magazine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They built a movement grounded in truth, healing, and human dignity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Code Health is currently collaborating with a Waken Souls magazine, making this crossover episode, something that takes both of our audiences to the next level.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We are so excited to have you both on today's podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for having been.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a real blessing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an honor for us to be here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, John.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, today we're going to talk about emotional frequency and whether it's healing your body or blocking you and how to shift it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But before we get started, there's a special question we always like to ask our guests.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When you hear the word consciousness, what does it mean to you and what is one daily habit that helps you stay more conscious in your life, health, or work?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Sri Ansar, individually, I can say for me consciousness is an awareness of your inner state while moving through the world and it's basically recognizing that your thoughts,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that's shown the experience or life in real time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, habit, did you say one habit?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So one habit would be to breathe before I start the day, before I do anything else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just basically doing it in a breath work, and make sure that you're connected and fully focused on what's going on ahead.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And for me, control of that is it being present, I mean that's so important that we're aware of our emotions and everything, our health, our emotions and just being awake and alert of our consciousness as well because if so much going on at the moment, everything's fast pace, if we sometimes lose contact with them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: being conscious about.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And what do I do?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I reflect when I wake up, I reflect on how I'm feeling in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So what am I feeling?
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[SPEAKER_06]: What's my motion's being this today?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I just have some time out before the kids in anything, you know, life wakes up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I just take that moment just a little bit of a moment just to need to just feel, what, what, what are my feeling?
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[SPEAKER_06]: What's my motions?
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[SPEAKER_06]: How am I feeling today?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's what I do as a daily habit as well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Those are great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we love to hear the background story of our guests and how everything that they experience brought them to where they are today, you together as a couple are doing something and really shifting the world and how people look at things and see things in a different way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Say, my story is
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take it back, but I'll be as detailed about brief, I can say, from childhood, the childhood was one that was very hostile, and one that was very abusive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Many things happened through that process, so left home at 15.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Always knowing that there was something far more than what was actually being presented, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: through the abuse, the beatings, it kind of opened like a portal if you like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have known that then, but actually looking back now, it kind of connected me to spirit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, I was able to connect the spirit and that I found that as a comfort, like a comfort blanket,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of took up combat as in a dumb martial arts, I played professional rugby, and it's kind of like a sounds quite brutal to hear those things, but actually, it was my way of understanding and releasing a trauma that I'd enjoyed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was many, many understands that I was growing, that something wasn't right, I feel different to what I should be feeling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it only took until 2009 when my best friend took his life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it started another form of a wakland.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know what the wakland case was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But 2009 was a very profound year for me on my wakland, like I've explained to Wendy in the past as like a layer of an onion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you release layers of the onion, it brings tears and pain because you're addressing things that you didn't think that you needed to address.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and that was the part of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I basically was using my trauma as a child all right through to that moment to actually use that to help humanity in the best way that I could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether it be lessons or things that happen to me, to be able to be guidance and like a beacon, like a light, to be able to hold people's hands and take them on their journey to help them through the darkness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where
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[SPEAKER_00]: interestingly, I fought my awakening and it happened and then I suffered a stroke and ironically I was admitted to a ward called the Phoenix Ward which as you may know Phoenix rise in 3D ashes, it was another layer of the awakening and everything that I had learned historically after that point was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: screwing a piece of paper from Fren in the bin and starting again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that brought us to where we are with the magazine because when I was combless and recovering at a left side of paralysis wasn't able to learn to walk and learn to talk and everything along those lines.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was channeled that I needed to write the book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's basically the strike was spirit slowing me down to free up
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[SPEAKER_00]: and when conversing, I had a vision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A vision was, you meant to share words of love was in the truth of humanity and that's where the magazine came into play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a real blessing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It really, really is a blessing and sometimes when you go for a situation or a trauma but you go in with your eyes wide open, you're able to see that there's a lesson that is
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[SPEAKER_00]: falling victim to the situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You should be saying, what's this show in me in this moment?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you see that and understand that, you're able to use it as a power tool to be able to help humanity in that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we discussed the magazine and we've processed the word, but push forward with the magazine and it's been a real journey of beautiful blessed efforts.
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[SPEAKER_06]: growth and learning challenges, but every challenge of things and I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a beautiful lesson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's in brief my life story to date.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sounds familiar.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's all I got to say about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking the same thing, Lisa.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's about your story and so often, even just so many people that we speak to and even knowing Lisa's story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You just hear that same theme throughout people that overcome something so tragic, but they take it and that's their lesson to learn and what they need to do to bring their life journey to the next level and make something positive out of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So thank you so much for sharing that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Anana, can you share your story with us?
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[SPEAKER_06]: we love to.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So my story from a very young age, my father was murdered.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that was a really hard experience because when my father passed away, I wasn't allowed to more the death of my father.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was told you cannot cry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You've got to suck it in and just bet it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I never ever had the opportunity to mourn my father's death.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was really traumatic experience going through that for many, many years.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So for me, when my father died, everything went downhill for me, for my mum as well, she had two nervous, severe nervous breakdown.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I was 11 years old when she had her first one.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, her second one.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I remember that I
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was, I was, I knelt down, and I said, you know, if there is a God, there is something out there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm asking to please help my mum, please, if there is, if you truly do exist, help my mum, and if you heal her, I promise you I will completely serve, serve you, whoever's out there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And a few days past and my mum slowly started coming round.
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[SPEAKER_06]: come around that's another chapter to go into regarding that experience.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And from then I had a passion when I saw that I had a passion to serve a passion.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was from the church and was Sunday school teacher.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was the youth group seeing, you know, young youths going through drugs, stroke, and
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[SPEAKER_06]: tribulations and going for really a tough, tough upbringing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I had that passion of always helping.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Even though I was going through problems myself, but I felt a bit of relief, a bit of comfort when I was helping others.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It gave me an enjoy in a healing, in a way.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So the years went by, I was in corporate and for me I had that connection.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it's a full awakening because we're always there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We're always connected to source.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We're always connected, but it's just sometimes we sort of take a step back and sort of drift off.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But then it's just remembering because it is all about remembering who we are, reconnected from the moment we are conceived, we're already connected to source.
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[SPEAKER_06]: In a traumatic experience, I fell down with my younger son and was pregnant, so that traumatic experience just made me to have a step back and say, reflect on my life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What do I want to do with me?
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[SPEAKER_06]: What I need to connect more, need to have some time for me, for my personal growth, instead of focusing on everyone else.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let me take a step back and reflect on.
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[SPEAKER_06]: what do I need to do?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And the moment I'd done that the more everything shifted, it was things were just opening up and I just the connection, the more interconnection, the more peacefulness that I felt that I never felt in any other place.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that the moment I was connected to
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[SPEAKER_06]: And no, we didn't see it, I'd find them again, and it was actually there, I was in Bali.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We were both in completely different countries.
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[SPEAKER_06]: However, when connection is meant to be, it just connects.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I was in Bali and I was like, what they need in Bali is just a magazine to people when they come to Bali that they're able to connect because Bali is a place where you do in a healing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You go there for treatments, you go there to so much work, spiritually.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I said, but no one knows where to go, where can we trust?
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I've got a need to do a magazine.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I left it and you pursue it, so I carried on working and then obviously we connected and
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, oh, that's great.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's amazing what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then I was helping have been in the bathroom.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, what about this?
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[SPEAKER_06]: What about that?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then I was like, why don't you just join me?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's how I can paint for God, that's when things are meant to be.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They just puzzle in in the most beautiful way.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we've seen the growth, we've seen the emails and messages.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I've read this article and it's just changed my life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So for us, that passion grew and the magazine has grown from day one.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And from what it is now, it's grown.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we have grown for it as well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So it's not just helping humanities also helped us grow and see things completely different.
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[SPEAKER_06]: and struggles.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we have gone for struggles.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, my gosh, we have gone for so much.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we sit back when we reflect and we're just like, you're one that happened to you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But everything leads the right direction.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So even the tribulation and even the hardship is always teaching us something.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So now we see things, not as a negative we see things.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, where is this going?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Where
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, that's my journey.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's so incredible, you know, that it's this, it's this theme of people that have the ability to turn their pain into their greatest purpose.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I say it all the time, it is like peeling away at the onion and the onion makes you cry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not a pleasant situation at all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And some days you question your faith.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Some days you have doubt, you know, because faith and doubt are two ends of the same spectrum.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So if you're stuck in doubt, then how do you change the angle you're looking at it so that you can restore faith.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the step that you take each day to get through whatever that pain and whatever that suffering is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you both have mentioned how you take time to meditate and go inside of yourself because that's where everything is, is inside of yourself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the way that I was taught was that contemplation is, you know, there's so many words that describe the same thing, you know, and that contemplation is really for me observing my thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What thoughts am I having because thoughts are repetitive?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So what thoughts are constantly repeating in my head and when I can become aware of that, then I can decide, am I gonna shift my thought?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Is this thought serving me?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Is it not serving me?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Is this thought better for everyone or not?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then you have to go from there and it's all about having a proper intention.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've got to get through this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's no other option.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've got to change the angle that I'm looking at the problem.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've got to see a solution and you put one foot in front of the other.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I can't even imagine being as creative as you are bear to have had a stroke affecting the left side of your body, which is your feminine side and the house of your creativity.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so how was that for you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Did it affect?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the first and when I was admitted to the hospital, go up long in prison missions in the neighborhood.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was a tough one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I remember because I'm quite, I can be quite a tough cookie, but I'm soft, but I actually'm quite a tough cookie, but when everybody went to sleep in the hospital, I waited, I waited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted, they're my pride.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was tough, it was because I knew what the limitations were.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I knew, hey, I'm going to be okay, but actually in this moment, it's really rocks my world, you know, like the rug's been caught among the Nephi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you have, I have those moments of, that's it, you know, I'm not going to get through this, I'm not going to get through this, I've gone through too much, I can't get through this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you have come on Snapchat, but it's Snapchat, it's Snapchat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the creative side is I wasn't necessarily creative in first of all, it's more the well power and the determination to not be defeated by it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I couldn't do nothing for the first week or so, but I was, ah, I was calling for the nurses to get me crutches to try and get out of bed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When everybody was sleeping, so I held my eyes on me, I was just me in my little space, where they would do maybe 10 minutes on the rehabilitation bars, the parallel bars, I'd be there for half an hour, 14 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, I think, having a positive mind can change the whole outlook on your life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes we say, you know, do something upon the impulse because the mind can take five seconds to talk about it very often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's true, it's true, but it's the only time I would say I would not let the mind control me in that way that I used my mind because my body wouldn't physically function, but I manipulated my mind to make my body work and that was literally it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, I'm not going to allow this to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, obviously my left side of family was weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: where it goes, you come to the end of the day, but yeah, creativity was, I wouldn't say it was so hard later, but in that moment you're trying to, I guess it's like a dolphin sleeping on one side on a wake on the other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty much, pretty much like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One side was fully functioning and the other side was like, for the sleep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: once you've got over that and the wheel power, I think it was mainly wheel power and mindset.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was going to say that the wheel power and I saw one bear with perhaps in really challenging self and he just didn't expect, no, this is not going to take over my body or I have the wheel power and it's all about mind.
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[SPEAKER_06]: the mind is so awful.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, there's people that we've heard stories of recover from so many illnesses where the power, you know, we're all energy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's all done to energy as well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I saw the remarkable change in the war power and this termination knew and that was so inspiring
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[SPEAKER_06]: really controlling.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to go for it and I'm going to challenge myself when we have you've had people saying to you, oh, I've been paralyzed and I haven't recovered ever again.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But bad didn't hear that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He was like, no, this is my body.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And this is I'm in control of my body.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I have responsibility.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to go for it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to challenge myself.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He runs now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No one with Benghis had a previous stroke.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's so well physically and it's all about the mind and what he tells yourself.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Mind is such a powerful healing in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it came his back as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to one of the things I can reflect back as a child.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in that moment you just live that life, but it's either defines you or it refines you and you get given to choices in life and get what you're given or you change it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you can only change it by having the right mindset in the first place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wouldn't say that having a stroke or two strokes being diagnosed with lesions on my brain which are happened diagnosed with or somebody who lives in the cat is anything unless traumatic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We define trauma in our own right was more traumatic to us and nobody should define them differently in any way shape or form.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can let it define you and you can sit there and that victim or I can't do anything in my life anymore or you change it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's physically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's that's in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all within that system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for sharing everything that you're saying is so first of all, well said because you either let something define you or change you right and you make the change and we all have our own story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and everyone has their own journey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the other thing that you said is, you know, what is really the definition of trauma?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, trauma is relative to what that individual person is enduring.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, just thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for sharing that as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's important for people to hear that and it's also important for people to hear what other people go through and how they come out on the other side and what gets them through to the other side.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because there is always someone
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[SPEAKER_03]: you know worse than you and then there's always someone that's going to have a little less call it, you know worse.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My grandmother used to say, Wendy, there's always going to be someone that's going to be prettier than you and not as pretty as you and there's always going to be someone that's going to be richer than you and not as rich as you and it doesn't matter what anyone else is,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's your connection to source.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not about, I believe, that I am this and I am that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just your definition, your connection to source and what your journey is, you know?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yes, but that is that's presence.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And just like I know said, it's, it's, it's presence.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And with the mind, always wanting to keep you suffering in this loop of toxic thoughts that repeat themselves.
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[SPEAKER_04]: you have to find stillness through your breath, like you said, that's that's your moment of stillness, your presence because it's shown scientifically when you focus on breathing deeply, you're slowing down the mind.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the other thing that you said that's powerful is that you do it at a time when the rest of the world is asleep, whether it's in the middle of the night or first thing in the
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[SPEAKER_04]: and it allows you to tune in and tap into that even easier.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then once your present, now you're connected.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now you can receive the greater insights from the divine through the intention or through the prayer of whatever it is that you're asking for.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And one of the things that I loved about what you said earlier was, you know, I lost my train of thought,
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[SPEAKER_04]: your intention.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I lost my train of thought.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was good to, it really was come back to yeah, it'll come back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It'll come up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's hormones.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's hormones trying so hard to keep them balanced, but I don't think that's I tell you about the hormones.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We get this turn into a hot pot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We just need a podcast on hormones.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's real.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And sometimes the decision to make you be based on your hormones, but literally your hormones could be up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Is that the right time to make the decision?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because sometimes it's the influence of your hormones can reach you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, when we talk about being alone in our own mind, having our own mindset,
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[SPEAKER_03]: it's very important.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think there's another like Lisa Oes says side to the coin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's the idea of shared frequency and community and the important just of what that does to you sharing that frequency with others.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's talk about that because the waken souls in it
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[SPEAKER_03]: and I think the vibration as you grow and grow becomes stronger and stronger.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So how do you feel about unity and vibration?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Community vibration to me is so important.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm into ancestral, very much about ancestral how I and sisters used to have community.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It would be your grandmother, your grandfather.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We always have that sort of
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[SPEAKER_06]: support network and because of mainstream at the moment people have lost that content that community that just connected and to me to really help your emotional your connection it's important to have that support.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So for us and we wanted to build a community to be able to bring people together you know bring people to go back they don't feel alone it's so helpful for your
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[SPEAKER_00]: exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think as well what we found because obviously we're always learning, we're not an expert in any field, we're kind of always learning and taking on board.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So comments that we've received from people that we've so say helped not intent just because we do what we do and that with the
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[SPEAKER_00]: people, we have people in this country, this country, this country, this country, and they're all seeking the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But just because they're in different countries, why should they not be connected as one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we can unite through diversity, and this is the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Going back when we were in the UK a few years back, we've done a talk on unity through diversity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: in a time where we breathed the magazine as the place called glass and bury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Dr. Lisa, do you know glass and bury or have you heard of it or Wendy?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've heard of what I do because you talked to me about it, but I think it's very, it's really important for the audience to learn about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So glass and bury is
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[SPEAKER_00]: A very small town has one main road, they call it a high street, but basically it's got about 60 shops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's small, very quirky shops, none of the chain shops, nothing like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all local produced this, jewelers, how made, crafted, all this concept.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in that one street, there's 87 belief systems in one street, which I would say I wouldn't like to create it, but statistically must be one of the most diverse streets in the whole of the world because there's so much going on in a small community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they get millions of, millions of tourists come from all over the world, strategically is because King Arthur was born there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Abbey, the custom very Abbey is basically rocking off of his born.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have pilgrimages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because it's also the place where if you go back to the Bible and you've got Joseph of Aaron of Fair, who went on a mission with Larry Magdalene and all his stuff, he was so say planted the sacred
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[SPEAKER_00]: The sacred form in glass library, which is still there to the state and it's the place of pilgrimage It's the place that so many people come to connect to the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They all come from all over the world Now our magazine acted as a portal for that to happen in the early influences stages when we went digital it made it
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[SPEAKER_00]: far more accessible and everybody's able to communicate, able to connect as one community regardless of race, religion, country, belief system, there shouldn't be a divide on the belief system where you're religion, there should be just one humanity and that's what that is and that's what the magazine is about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's so beautiful, really, it is
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's turn this amazing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You need to get a signal in your mind.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We need to get a signal in your mind.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But that's how, yeah, we, we just have to go teach Toby's.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We want to do it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: to reach as many people as possible.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There shouldn't be no restriction or anything.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's brought so many people together.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Our writers as well, connect with each other.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And when we get messages and have pushed us to do this community, and which we have, we've done this school community, that we have launched and we're still building.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And it's great innovation and what we're doing to bring everyone together as well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: All of us together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The school community is a great place, you know, where people can come together and have conversation, learn about things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a great platform.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's fantastic that you are part of that as well.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you do also work with children, since I know that you have four children, do you do a work with children as well?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I need you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I've been told to set up something to help.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So with our four kids, for me since moment that they were little, I felt like I had a responsibility to guide them to be decent human beings because it was my responsibility the moment that they go out, they're going to have an impact on other people's lives in a positive way.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I've always bought our voice being very knowledgeable.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We have the morning sessions where we sit down.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And sometimes they might be like, oh gosh, here we go again.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But it's different.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We tell them, no, yeah, about this, about life experience, just knowledge, the way it used to be.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We used to sit in a table.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Everyone used to sell stories about something life experiences.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We've done that so much of the kids.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We've had my friends son over from Bali and it was here for two weeks But it's extended for six weeks.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's been one of the six weeks.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I guess I love this table meeting that you guys have and you teach new we love it and that's what we do
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[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like it's a responsibility.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think parenting, it's a responsibility for us to really teach our kids.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And if we do teach them, guide them, the world will be just a little bit better as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to be doing more parents, like more conscious parenting and stuff, through the school community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: our four children are very conscious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They meditate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's the children of the day are the adults of tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if we can educate and make more conscious parents, we have more conscious children moving forward and we break this pre-programming that's helping for generations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we set here for hours daily talking and it's such a value, I mean, I remember growing up, I used to be sat in a very small kitchen, not allowed to talk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we can have a lunch and be talking for two hours after.
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[SPEAKER_00]: we can have dinner and be talking for two hours after, but it's not just mundane conversations, we can have topics, things that we maybe one of them may not be feeling so good and we talk about it and we were sharing them how to express emotions in the right way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm from stuff as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just a workshop and it's not a vision, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a lot of laughter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we got so many friends.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'm really teaching as well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I have one thing that you said about the layers of the onions.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It sometimes makes you cry and I always tell the kids it's okay to cry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How does plants grow?
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[SPEAKER_06]: They need water to grow.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So sometimes it's important to cry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: right, okay, make sure you fill.
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[SPEAKER_06]: When you have a good cry, you fill it amazing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You really I do.
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[SPEAKER_06]: When I have a good cry, oh my gosh, I'll relieve.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So we explain to them that it's okay to go through emotions, it's okay to be aware of different emotions because that's what sometimes you're not meant to cry, you're not meant to express your emotions.
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[SPEAKER_06]: or you just have to keep it yourself.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So they all have different personalities.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So we work with every individual personality as well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And they're great, they're just really, I've been blessed with really good kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They are good kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We will be doing some conscious parenting workshops on school and relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And workshops as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that will be a great one in the short period of time that I've gotten to know the two of you and really grown to truly love you and appreciate who are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: as a couple, especially, and as parents, the world is just a better place, really having the two of you here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really mean it because you are doing those things away.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to love my part right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In the tissue, no, but really it's an honor and a privilege.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Lisa and I
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're just at the beginning of our journey with the two of you, and we are so excited to be able to be part of what you are doing for the world, for society, and to just bring back all of those important things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that make us human, that make us, not just human, but our souls, what they are here for.
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[SPEAKER_06]: First of all, men are very important.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is important?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So thank you so much and thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for watching, your words are touching.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But we are also honored to be working with you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We're so humbled and so touched, both of you are absolutely amazing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You can sense it as well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: heard your voice message and was heard my voice message.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It just, you know, when your song goes, oh, it's a connection.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There is, there's a reason why we're connected.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's what we do.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We do things with love, with humbarners, to make just even a little bit of a change, can really have that, what is it, the ripple effect?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, the ripple effect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what I say is a small act of kindness can leave
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The best way to just I think we should end on that, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: 228 on number.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, the purpose of all happiness can leave just such
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[SPEAKER_03]: a ripple effect of everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You just, you pay it forward, just with a little less.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what Lisa and I always say is, one drop at a time, and that one drop does the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So thank you again for your time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We look forward.
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[SPEAKER_03]: many, many more code-conscious conversations with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Lovely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If people want to find you, what is your, do you have a website?
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[SPEAKER_04]: How do they reach you or social media?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we have the website, which is www.awakensows.org.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the Instagram, which is Awakened Under Scrolls Souls, Under Scrolls Magazine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have Awakened Souls Magazine on Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And last and last school, the rest important.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, away from those global community at school.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And when you see school, it's SK, oh, oh, oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That school is a platform.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new platform.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So we're still building and it's going to be amazing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's going to be awesome.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because I'm waiting to have you guys in it as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So thank you for being so much.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The little minds that create
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[SPEAKER_01]: Conventionly dare to explore, breaking barriers open indoors With every step they light the way I am near
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[SPEAKER_01]: One mission, lighting away, transforming the future with love every day With science and spirit that journey unfolds Restoring balance as the future unfolds