Inside Eights: Summer 2024 w/ Nate Day & Mat Landry | Cloud Machine Ep. 83

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It's just going to happen. I think I noticed myself getting discouraged early on when certain things didn't come through and then
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Not even a week later something else opens up
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Welcome to the cloud machine podcast your all-access paths to the music industry
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I'm your host Matt Landry and every week we immerse you in the music world and covering industry insights offering expert guidance and exploring the stories
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That influence the industry cloud machine podcast is brought to you by eights the innovative creative agency behind some of your favorite live concerts and tours
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I want to take your music to the next level join a vibrant community on the eights network discord and with that
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Let's get started with today's episode. Hey everybody. Welcome back to the cloud machine podcast
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My name is Matt Landry and today I am joined by none other than Nate Day the co-founder of eights creative
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We've been on quite a journey together building eights from the ground up and working on incredible projects along the way
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and I thought that
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It's been three months since we had a podcast together and it would be fun to do another podcast in on this late
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summer early fall situation almost a back to school, so it's almost getting each other back in order here
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In this episode will dive deep into where eight stands today
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How Nate is feeling about our progress and the challenges and victories we've faced together
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This is more of a candid conversation a little bit of fun in the end
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We're gonna you know do a little fun questions stuff like that
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So hope you have fun. Hey, Nate. How are you? I'm great, man. How are you doing? I am fantastic
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I just drove in from Ottawa today
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because shout out
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My brother who was on the podcast a few weeks ago. He had a play. Well, he's been doing a play
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and
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For those in Ottawa, you got to go check out the play
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It's at the Ottawa Little Theatre
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This week until Saturday. So go check it out
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The play is called and I'm a bad
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It's all good it is
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The curious incident of the dog in the nighttime
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And so it's it's it's to my defense. It's not the type of title that you'd sort of remember off the cuff
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You know, I know that there's a dog. There's an incident in the nighttime
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but again for those
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Wondering it's happening until this Saturday
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It's called the curious incident of the dog in the nighttime
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It's at the Ottawa Little Theatre in downtown Ottawa. I saw it last night. It was fantastic
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But I'm back home now in Toronto and I'm glad to be here with you, man
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Cheers. You too, man
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How you doing?
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I'm doing all right
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I'm good
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We'll get into it. But yeah excited to chat about what's been going on. Oh, yeah
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I got my head down a lot. I'm sure you have too
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It's nice to kind of take a second and reflect on what's going on. So, oh, yes
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Fantastic. I wanted to start off by asking you how you feel about the current state of eight
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And and that is it?
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Exactly
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But
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How you feeling about where eight stands today, but not necessarily on all the details more about is it in line with the
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Original vision when we started two years ago
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Yeah, I mean
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Yes, and no
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I think
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Yeah, it's definitely like
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Like we're getting to do what we love and I feel like I'm getting to do what I love and
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I also think like what I love is maybe changed over time too
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And I found like excitement in some areas that I didn't think I would
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You know like working on equipment stuff
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Actually find a lot of fulfillment in it and I didn't think I would really like that
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Not that I didn't think I would like it. I just didn't see myself
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Taking as much of a role on that. Right? I
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also look back and like
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I remember we had a season where we like wanted to include like being like tour managers and maybe like
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On the road and like doing more the logistics side and we did that for a bit and it was like not what
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We loved and it wasn't
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and
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I love all the TMS we've gotten to work with and I think they're amazing at their roles. I think I just realized oh
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I'm
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Maybe not as cut out for it as I thought
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I would be and that's fine. But I remember when we started out that was like an aspect that we wanted to include. So
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Yeah, I think it is in line
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But I'm also very curious to see like I feel like we've said every time we like make a change or like an update on something
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it's like
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Probably a year later two years later
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We'll be making another change or another adjustment and that's just the nature of
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One hour of change and then we'll be making another change
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So I think that's just the nature of one our industry and two being a startup. So
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Yeah, how about you though like how
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Has it stayed the same like in terms of your vision for it?
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Not necessarily, you know, I think you mentioned
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You mentioned sort of the TMing
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Sort of era that eights was in for a little bit which was last summer
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Yeah
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because now thinking about it at the very very beginning when we had the thoughts about eights, uh in 2022
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um, we wanted
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We basically we basically saw how the industry was going and basically told ourselves that in 15
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Whatever years that we wouldn't necessarily want to be on the road
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Um, it's and it's funny that last summer we were like, oh tming
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you know
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Uh, what about that as like one of our main like offerings one of my our our main services
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But it's funny now that you know, we're we're we're a little bit away from that
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But at the start we didn't necessarily want to do that. So it's like we tried it out. We knew that we we didn't like it
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Um, and it's it's fantastic now that we're sort of back into the original thought that we had which was not tming
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Um, so I think that's interesting. Um, and
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Um, you bring that up, which is great. Um for me. Yeah at the beginning. I thought we were gonna
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You know be a little bit
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More on stage than what we are now
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Um, that's what's one big sort of point
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But also like you're like you're saying as well. It's like it's like finding out
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uh some other roles that we we we like and and um
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And being
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Satisfied with that as well. Um, and you know
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You just mentioned like the tech side and the the equipment side of things
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Which is which is a new sort of
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thing for yourself for me, it's been mostly like the non
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Off like the non stage stuff that's been surprising, you know the playback and and the whole you know creative
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Of on the outside of the stage things like that which have been sort of eye-opening on my end
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um, and it's great to sort of do more of that while still having a little bit of a
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Uh of a yearning to get back on on the drums a little bit
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Yeah, yeah i'm curious i've been curious about how much that is is
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Maybe you know what? No
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I'm gonna write that question for the end. Okay, you gotta watch till the very end to see what I just thought about
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Yeah
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So we've been chatting today about about this episode and nate's been uh, we've been crafting a few fun questions for the end
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Uh, and uh just to ask ourselves, uh, but um, stay tuned till the end for that. Um
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Nate I want to ask you about um, some some maybe some unexpected lessons
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Uh, you know, we've learned along the way through, you know our recent projects and maybe through a recent year
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Um with eights, what have you what have you learned?
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Um, that was something new
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Yeah, um
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I mean we're learning all the time and like constantly tapping I think a very practical one that comes to mind is
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Just like how much lead time
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We need to give things and I think
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And it's a tough balance because the music industry a lot of creative industries they operate so last minute like it's like, you know
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Every stage of the creative process kind of takes as much time as possible and people want to change things last minute or ideas
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Come up that we want to integrate and that's just a normal creativity
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um
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But there's also the side of things that we do
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where
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i'm like, you know
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that's like when we did that work for the beaches earlier this year like doing their pedal boards like
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There were some changes on the way that you know took place, but it was like a you know
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Six to eight week process of like yes
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nine to like consulting to order like there was like, you know,
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and um, that's changed a lot of how I like set expectations with clients too
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and with vendors
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That's kind of I had a couple really tight turnarounds that almost didn't happen
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And those were kind of taught me like, okay
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I need to start setting expectations a little bit better for myself
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For the client and then for also the people I work with on this
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um
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And also assume that things are going to take longer than they do and just budget for that and just be like, all right like
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How long do I think it's going to take me and then add another
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20% to that
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Yeah, somebody else it was like hey, when can you get this to me?
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Or hey, when will this be ready for pickup and just assume it's going to be
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Later than what you tell what they tell you not because you don't trust them or anything like that
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Um, because there's so many other things that change in the process
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And the thing with that is as well is that you can always
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Sort of deliver beforehand, you know
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It's tough to be like hey, this will be done in two weeks and then it's done in three weeks
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Rather than oh saying it's done in three weeks, but you actually deliver it in two weeks
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Like that's a whole different. That's a whole different thing
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Yeah, and and one other lesson i'll just toss in um is
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I think it's like it makes sense
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But it's kind of like don't put all your eggs in one basket in the sense that I feel like
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a lot of um
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It probably applies to other industries as well. But
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For every like five things you quote on 10 things you could quote on
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Only a couple are going to be like green lit and that's not that could be for such a variety of reasons
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Um, but not kind of like gripping on too tightly to things or getting too discouraged if something doesn't come through
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because um
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That's just gonna happen. I think I noticed myself getting discouraged early on when certain things didn't come through and then
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Not even a week later something else opens up. Yes
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not letting your high your highs get too high when you're like early on in our project or get your lows too low because
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Yeah, I think i've decided to learn in terms of managing my own expectations of things
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Really handful of projects a couple aren't going to work out and a couple are and for the ones that don't work out
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So something else is going to come up and you just have to
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Assume that um, yeah, it's fantastic
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How about yourself? Yeah for me, it's it's very very very similar. Um, you know, I echo those lessons for sure
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um specifically the uh, the
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The last one that you just that you just mentioned um for me it's one to add is also um
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um, just learning that we're also sort of the
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the heroes of our own journey
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In regards to
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Uh things won't happen
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Unless you like put the the things in place
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You know in regards to like you sort of have to make um, make the moves
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To ensure that that you that you're sort of taken care of, you know
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It's like it's an industry that if you don't put those pieces in place that it won't happen
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Now there's another lesson to that where it's also
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Okay, but don't push too much
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You know, it's like it's like okay. Yes, like
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Yes, like you know, we you should put your stuff
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In place and put your ducks in a row, but don't try to push those those ducks
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in the farm kind of thing and
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there's a weird analogy, but
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Um in regards to like not necessarily knocking at the door too hard of the artist or the manager or whoever
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Yeah, and be like, okay. Well, what's next? What can I do more? What can what?
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What's the next step? What can I do?
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For you to make the project better
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uh, sometimes it's it's just
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I think for me it's I i've learned when not to push too much and I think i'm still i'm still learning that
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Uh, even in the past a few weeks here, so that's not very important. It's um
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The other analogy that or the phrase that comes to mind is that like you can lead a horse to water
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You can't make a blanket like you can send things but you can't force
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People to buy your stuff like you get it. Yeah, exactly
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Yeah, and I like forcing or pushing too hard to push boy. That's interesting
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Yeah, I I love how you've had you have actual analogies that are said and i've just said something about ducks and houses
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Oh, you know, I like that one better. It's like, you know, because maybe ducks don't want to live in a farm. They want
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I don't even I'd
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Capture them what's the
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It's been a long weekend, bro. It's been a long weekend that being said
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Yeah, I don't know where the ducks came in and the house I was doing chickens first
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And then I was gonna say coop and I was gonna say coop but ducks don't necessarily go in a coop. I think I don't know
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Well, we'll see if josh will be pardon
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Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, he'll probably leave the pardon. We'll have to consult with marina about this duck situation
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How has your creative?
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Direction and sort of
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Creativity evolved since we've started and where do you see it heading next?
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Hmm
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You mean us like together or like my personal?
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Yeah, maybe just like wait, maybe maybe it's a question of references
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Where were you at maybe two years ago and where are you at now in regards to?
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Even looking at the creative process within eights and with our clients
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Yeah
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I think i've become more comfortable
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With the importance of like um
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I don't have to say this like taking initiative and
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Like leading the charge a bit. I think I come from a very collaborative philosophy
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Yes, and I would still vouch for a lot of
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importance and
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Sticking with being collaborative, but i've also seen a lot of scenarios where
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too much collaboration
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Like people need leadership and like there'll be people like
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Yeah, no in and setting for the band leader like the band leader
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Like the band wants direction a lot of the time
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And i've seen that where like and we've seen that where people are struggling being like, I don't I don't have enough direction. It's like oh
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you know, um
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That's
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It's a balancing act it's like a balancing act between like
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Bringing in new ideas and knowing when to bring in new ideas and knowing when to just make a decision
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Execute it and like hey, this is what we're doing and we've been brought in or i've been or you've been or someone else has been brought in
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To make that decision and that makes everybody's life easier sometimes so
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Yes, yes profit like I I feel like I wasn't very comfortable with that and only recently started to think about that more and be like, okay
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I'm like i'm really good at coming up with as many options as possible and then be like, well, here's all the options
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But more recently i've been like, okay, I think I just need to say
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This is what we're doing or yeah, let me make a pitch and be like this is how it's gonna or limit the options whatever
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Yes, you know that person. I think i've been like working on um
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Just quickly on the musical front, I feel like i've been very interested in like
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Like i'd say over the last two years, I really love the rmb
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Arrangements and like the shot i'd be like band there's been a part of me that's really been interested in like
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Like seeing a lot of like more folk influence come into
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live bands like I saw lizzie mcalpine band
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Um, like lizzie mcalpine recently and her band was very like like a lot of layering a lot of um
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Like um looping and stuff that I think doesn't
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I don't know. I don't know if I see it on like major major stages
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Right now. Yeah, I don't know. I've been interested in like where's musical direction and like
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live arrangements kind of start going on a
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Like on the a list and b list artists what what that looks like
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Okay, yeah, um yourself
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Yeah, I mean I
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Again, I we we have a similar takes on this
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And sort of that's what I was saying with the with duck analogy earlier, which is like
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It's like a lot of people hire us
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As to to let's say to direct
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Yeah, but sometimes and sometimes we have to make those decisions
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And you know, it's it's it's a it's an experience thing where it's like, okay at the beginning and I you know
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I see it. I see it now looking back, but it's like
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Okay, like this is possible. This is possible. This is whatever and sometimes the the reality of it is and like you said
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it's that um
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They they're hiring you because they don't have time to make to do the work
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Yeah, um
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And that's just like a reality
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Now sometimes and we've come across this as well
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Um, so like
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Sometimes and we've come across this as well. Um, sometimes they don't understand that they're hiring you for that
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That's also true, uh in regards to
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You know and and I feel and this is general just generally in the in in
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The music industry but I see it in other industries as well for for creative directors
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Is that a lot of people in in in that hire you don't necessarily know what that means?
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um, and and but it's also important to to to emphasize
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the
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Responsibilities, um, and that's that's coming from both camps as well
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Uh, you know, I see a big lesson and creative lesson to tie both questions in
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uh, is that is that we need to
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Set our expectations and our responsibilities quite earlier with the with the people that we work with
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But that's uh, maybe something on the on the internal side
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That uh that we'll chat about um, so yeah, no, that's that's that's great. Um
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on that um
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What excites you most about our potential expansion into new markets and services?
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Yeah, um
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What excites you most
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I think there's a a couple things. I think i'm really excited to see
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like for people listening right now who might
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Um, I don't even know when we did our last update
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Uh, but three months ago, so it's it's a long time ago. Yeah
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Um, honestly, dude, it feels like march in my head right now like I did
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Yeah, like i've been spending a lot more time than I thought on the equipment side and on the like technical side
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Yeah
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And so I think that has been for me like something i've been excited to like
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expand but like see
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Where things pick up and how we can grow that into like a function of the business?
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Um because it's a very different model than
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Our direction performance
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Stuff we do. Yeah
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Operation standpoint, um, it's different accounting. It's different
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Clothing method is different. We got inventory all this stuff. Yeah
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And I feel like there's been traction we're starting to see some more movement on that side
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um, so i'm very excited to see where how that can kind of
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um develop and maybe
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Systematize things a little bit more get a space at some point
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Yeah, like move like start to make that a little bit more official and then also for myself
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As a co-owner of business with you
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move like
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keep my hands in both
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Like pieces of what we do because I feel like I do miss some of the creative and musical stuff
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Yeah, as well. Um
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um, and uh
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I mean, I love all of it. But yeah, I think that's one area i'm excited for expansion and um, obviously too just getting the
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the prospects of um
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I don't know working on artists that excite us like I think there's been a couple coming up that i'm very excited about
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um
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I won't say the names yet, but i'm excited about uh some stuff in the chats and um
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You know, we're also working on
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uh
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Getting some us work permits for yourself
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For us. Hell. Yeah, brother
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Are you gonna say like we shouldn't have said that and cut that out of the pot? No, no, no, no, no
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No, it's it's great to say it. We're eights is going international here folks
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uh
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global eights global
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um
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Big vibes. We are currently getting our o1 visas
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Our permits to work in the united states folks. Uh, you know, I wish I still had my
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From the early episodes, but uh, oh, yeah, i'm excited about the potential of um
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Just getting to work with clients internationally, too. Yeah
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I think there's a lot of potential there
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and um
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I don't know. I mean the most exciting part of any
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Any like any what we do or the exciting step in the process is
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Those initial like listening to the artist songs that they want to do live and like that dreaming stage. Yeah
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That's like a life-giving
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kind of
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Situation or like moment when you get to like talk with an artist and they like send you like here's what i'm thinking of doing
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And you get to like
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Hear it. I love hearing new songs and new material and new ideas. So
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um
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Just like continuing to do that and like maybe you know
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Expand our roster and our ability to work with additional artists as we build more connections. So yeah. Yeah
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Fantastic. Yeah, but i'm excited about
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Yeah for for myself. It's it's very much um
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the potential of of of stepping outside of the of the city of the of the country
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As well, um as people know if you're listening to this podcast, you definitely know, um that there are bigger
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Markets than the canadian market
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um
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In the music industry and we're excited about that. We are also very excited to
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empower individuals that we work with to work in these
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International regions as well. So um, so yeah, I know i'm excited for that potential
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um in regards to sort of markets, um for services though
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Um, i'm excited to see where the builds goes. Well, um in in that regard and to see
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What more we can do?
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On that end of things, you know for the past few years. We've been sort of specializing in um
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Uh in more portable gear
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Um, and I think that's fantastic
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um
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Because there's such a need for it, uh, but as we you know expand our services in our reach
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Seeing where you know where we can go? Um
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With our with our rigs and you know systems and rentals sort of division
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Uh, as they say, um, so i'm excited about that. Um
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In regards to more of the creative
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Direction musical direction side of things, um offering more than just the music is really interesting to me. Um
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Seeing um, you know where where we can go with um, you know vocal code
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You can go with um, you know vocal coaching performance coaching things like that while it not necessarily being
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us
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At the forefront of those services, um sort of channeling it through eights is quite interesting to me. Um, and really comes to
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To speak to the to the to the real
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360 needs of an artist when it comes to getting them more confident on on the stage
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So, um, i'm looking forward to that as well. So that's great
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Um
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But
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No, I was gonna I was gonna say maybe i'll ask you the next question. Oh, there you go. There you go
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Yeah, welcome to cloud machine podcast
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Um
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Uh
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want to know
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What milestone do you think best represents our journey so far or is the big
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highlight
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Um the experience one immediately comes to mind for me, but I want to know
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Yeah
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Well, this is funny and I didn't even think about this before you asked me this question
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But the the and it's funny because it just happened
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um
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It is the butterweiser stage
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Um show with the beaches that just happened, uh last week
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Um or a few weeks ago now two weeks ago as this podcast comes out. Um
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It was such a fantastic evening not necessarily only for eights, but uh for the musical community of toronto
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To see three home grown talents
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Take on bud stage. Um
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First we had the opportunity of of being part of both the beaches and the valley camp. Um
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Um both sort of two separate
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I was more on the beaches side. You were more on the valley side, which i'd love to talk about as well
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um, but that evening, um, just sort of
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Stamping our our our name on that. Um
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Was really fantastic and just just to see us two sort of working for two different artists
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Um, but at the same time the same sort of building and venues
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It's fun. It's a funny thing where it's like with aids. We haven't necessarily done a lot of days
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Is sort of together in the past like i'd say six months
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But it was great great to do to do that together
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And I think that just for me there's a milestone a recent milestone that that will probably think about or look at for years to come
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um
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There's there's a few other ones as well
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Um getting a few clients maybe that we that we necessarily can't talk about right now
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But getting those a few clients recently our big milestone, especially when it comes to
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Getting clients from word of mouth
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um, yeah, that's not necessarily a testament to us but it's a testament to
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Um, these are the people in our community
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Uh, and and their trust
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um
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In us, I guess, um to to refer to that and just being grateful for them
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Um, so just a milestone in regards to our network as well
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Um, which has been fantastic
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Um, what about yourself?
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What are your milestones?
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Yeah, yeah, I know the Budweiser show the other week was definitely highlight. Um, I just felt very special part of um,
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you know and even personally like working with valley like
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You know, i've known some of those guys since we were in high school, you know, yeah
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people to like see people like that many people sing their songs and
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you know
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just run out and like
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Change rob the guitar for him. I was like man like
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I saw you the hallway like high school, you know when we were
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I'm running out here like 16 000 people making sure your guitar is you know, yeah
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That was just like special like personally like from like as their friends really awesome
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um
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And yeah and just see like, you know
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Basic like basic stuff like the girls use the pedal boards that
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Like I made here like at this desk i'm sitting at right now. Yeah. Yeah
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Yeah, like holy crap like that patch that we programmed with
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James in the freaking rehearsal space like
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for hours
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Um, they were just sitting there like playing the guitar being like does that sound good? Does that sound good?
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And then you see them ripping those patches in front of 16 000 people is like, whoa, like yeah, it's real. Like it's real
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um
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so that was yeah, I think that was just a special moment to be part of and um,
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um, I think recently like, you know, we I won't say too much yet because we haven't announced yet, but um
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Just did like on the rig building side our first like inventory import
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um, yeah, like
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um, and so that was like just from like a like
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Business owner like small business owner like doing our first commercial import like properly I think but that was just like a cool moment
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of like oh this feels uh
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Big like, you know, I mean, that's like a big step
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Um, yeah
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What I was doing, um six months ago, so
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No, it's fantastic and we always we always like thought of it, you know
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Be like, okay, how do we how do we do this for from an operational side?
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But also from a financial side because you know
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Just a very general business practice, uh, and i'm not necessarily, you know, reinventing the wheel here
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But if you get more inventory
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It costs less because you get it in bulk
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and
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Basically allowing ourselves to do that now
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um
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00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,840
with the help of the bdc which
472
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,640
More on that later, uh, and they are not sponsoring the podcast, but we love the bdc
473
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,280
Uh and futurepreneur shout out to them as well. Uh, well maybe a little tag or something
474
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:14,160
You know, uh, but uh, anyway, uh, just being able to do that is is a big uh is a big
475
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,240
milestone
476
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,240
Yeah, I wanted to speak to
477
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:25,040
Uh personal growth as well. Um in what ways does your role in eights influence your personal?
478
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,840
and professional growth
479
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,160
Yeah, I mean I think i'm still wrestling with that now
480
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,480
Yeah
481
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,480
Will be probably for
482
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,400
Like, you know, I mean, of course we're always learning
483
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,560
Um, yeah, and that relationship between work and personal life is so
484
00:32:51,660 --> 00:32:52,960
interesting
485
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,480
especially
486
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,240
starting a business
487
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Um as i'm learning now and I think you know
488
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,480
um
489
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:09,440
Yeah, I think it's like i'm just noticing it it pushed me in a way that I don't think i've felt since
490
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000
I started university really
491
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,360
um, yeah, well there's maybe one job I had
492
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,920
Um between university and now um
493
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,680
That I feel like right now. It's like this is you know, really pushing
494
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,880
Like
495
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,440
Me figuring out how to handle this capacity
496
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,880
And this amount of moving pieces that are so different from each other. Yeah
497
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,600
I don't think
498
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,360
Like I think this is another step up from whatever, you know ever had to manage
499
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,880
Um, and there's a lot of excitement behind that because
500
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,720
We're you know, it means things are moving and growing
501
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,920
um, but i've definitely noticed like it's forced me to wrestle in my personal life with like
502
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,000
You know take a really hard look at like time management and
503
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,600
um task management and just like
504
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,760
priorities
505
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,800
Priorities and just being more rooted with um
506
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,760
You know how I go about things
507
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,760
Yeah
508
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,800
Not that I was a disaster before but I think it's just like a more responsibility you have the more like
509
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,920
um
510
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,120
Efficient you've got to be like in other personal areas
511
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,000
even um
512
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,640
bringing some stuff to the surface like personally that like
513
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,280
um, i've been maybe wrestling with for a long time but never really
514
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,320
got a handle on and especially like working with a really helpful like counselor and
515
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,040
Uh, like my doctor is really really great like from a personal standpoint
516
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,800
um
517
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,520
It's kind of like pushed me I think in a helpful way to kind of
518
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:54,800
Attack some of those things head on rather than just live with them because I think that was
519
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,560
Um impacting work, you know, I mean it was like it was getting the point where I go impacting
520
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,200
Um what I was able to pull off
521
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,120
um
522
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,160
With you and with like the business and like just mental space
523
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,920
um
524
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,520
And so I think that
525
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,920
In a good way the growth has meant like okay. I've had to take a hard look at some other areas of life. Okay
526
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,000
how do I
527
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000
manage this more
528
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,200
um
529
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,040
Just more diligently, you know
530
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,960
And I felt like those improvements like those have made improvements in my life and i'm very grateful for that. So
531
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,960
um
532
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,320
Never. Yeah, I don't know. Those are those are the things that you don't think about when like
533
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,800
Yeah, like we should like incorporate and like make this a business. It's like
534
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,120
All i'm thinking about is like playing guitar. I was like, yeah
535
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,640
I'm thinking about like those things and then there's a lot of other elements to it. So
536
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,320
And I didn't give us a lot of detail there, but no, but yeah, thanks for thanks for sharing still
537
00:35:54,720 --> 00:36:00,160
Um on that. Yeah. Yeah, and you mentioned what is one thing the incorporating thing
538
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,160
Uh, which we did in in february
539
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:04,720
um of this year
540
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:08,720
Uh, I feel like there's a there's a major shift there
541
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,600
major shift, um
542
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:14,560
Which I wasn't necessarily expecting
543
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,960
um
544
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,840
Well, I was expecting it, you know, we had talked about it for a while
545
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,560
Um, but I wasn't expecting at what point it would actually like change things
546
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:33,120
Um, and you know for the freelancers that are maybe listening to the podcast, um for me haven't been a freelancer for a very long time
547
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,680
um in the music industry
548
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,680
Uh, it really changed the way
549
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,560
I did things at home and just the way I way
550
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,280
the the way I sort of
551
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,320
Excuse me did things. Um
552
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,760
Because now i'm working i'm working for the business
553
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,400
I'm not necessarily working for myself
554
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,040
Um, so it changes things like financially
555
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,680
Um, it changes things
556
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,880
Um from a priorities perspective as in like, you know, sometimes the business has to come first
557
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,560
um
558
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,160
And uh and but these are all parts of growing with eights
559
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:12,880
And growing myself, you know, I asked about the personal and the professional growth side of things
560
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,800
um
561
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,240
professionally
562
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,920
Um, it's a it's allowing us to grow this other entity than ourselves
563
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,560
You know, it's it's it's like our it's like our child really
564
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,200
um quite literally
565
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,480
We're sort of married now nate. I don't know if you noticed that but um
566
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,160
Yeah, wait a second. I gotta go make a phone call
567
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:43,760
Um, but professionally it's changed a lot of things. Um, personally as well, like you said, um
568
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,560
Uh, it just it just uh prioritizing different things and
569
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,240
Recognizing your responsibilities, you know, definitely
570
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,360
Um, it means that I can't uh
571
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,800
Play as much as many video games as I was doing before
572
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,880
Uh, or like, you know, um things like that, but also
573
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,360
It's like recognizing that there are more important parts while still
574
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,880
Being able to reset or reset
575
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,160
It's just different. It's just different now, you know, it's like spending I'm as i'm arguably spending
576
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,600
Even more time with you know, my my my partner my family
577
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:28,720
But it's because i'm prior to prioritizing this eights and my and them
578
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,120
It's not like eights and all these other things and also them
579
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:36,640
It's not necessarily that i'm sacrificing
580
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:42,400
The personal life it's just i'm i'm sacrificing all these other hobbies or activities that I was doing
581
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,360
Um, and i'm and i'm sort of grateful for that
582
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,800
I was gonna ask if there was any difficulty in
583
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,320
That like was there was there a point that any or was there any point where it was like
584
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,560
You've been feeling the weight of that or do you feel like there's been relief
585
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,480
In that
586
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,240
Uh, definitely the weight of it
587
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:08,640
For sure. Um, I would say maybe a year and a half ago. It was harder than it is right now
588
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,280
But for different reasons
589
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,760
Um a year and a half ago is hard because
590
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,520
Uh, we weren't necessarily sure we were at
591
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,680
Uh, we weren't getting as many clients as we were hoping to
592
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,640
Maybe not as much as activity for the business
593
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,640
Uh, but I think it was a little bit of a relief
594
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,640
We were fine. Um,
595
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,880
Because they would come from different backgrounds so like
596
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,740
Um, I guess
597
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,800
Either from all selling stuff and all those different cycle pieces
598
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000
The part that the problem is, is that
599
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,200
When people sort of
600
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,000
Are asked
601
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,340
It's like on business and then on adult.
602
00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:10,160
Even if the business is so busy, there's still dishes to make.
603
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,760
Dishes to do, rather.
604
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,760
To clean.
605
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:21,160
Meals to make, dishes to do, dogs to walk, cats to feed, all these things.
606
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,920
I haven't even gotten to the wedding planning.
607
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,200
You know what I'm saying?
608
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,040
So that's another thing for another time.
609
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:35,720
I don't want to go too much, but have you found, if it's not too personal to ask, or
610
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:36,720
relationship?
611
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:45,160
Because there's a lot to do outside of work, and there's a lot to do at work right now.
612
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,480
Have you found adjustments?
613
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,040
There were difficult adjustments to make.
614
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:58,200
Do you feel like it's been easier because y'all are living in the same place?
615
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:04,040
What's happened during these last six months?
616
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,560
During the last six months, we've had a lot of different things happen as well.
617
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,720
My partner also got a new job, so that's a whole thing.
618
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:16,840
It's like sometimes she's out of the house for 12 hours a day because of this job, so
619
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,360
there's a whole other thing.
620
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:30,080
The busyness of Aids, let's say, the responsibilities of being co-owners, but also her job and her
621
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:35,120
responsibilities as well, have just allowed us to also prioritize our time together as
622
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,440
well.
623
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:49,000
It's not necessarily that it's easier said than done, but it's easier when we live together.
624
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,400
I recognize in your situation it's maybe a little bit different.
625
00:41:53,400 --> 00:42:05,480
To get back to your questions, yes, there's been some difficulty, of course, but I'm very
626
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,600
grateful that my partner understands where I am right now and where we are headed as
627
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,600
a company.
628
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:18,760
I think it's important for partners, especially in entrepreneurial settings, or necessarily
629
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:24,880
being a partner with an entrepreneurial person, I think it's important for that partner to
630
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:33,660
also understand where the partner is in his business, but also where they also want it
631
00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:35,160
to go.
632
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,760
I think that's been great for us.
633
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:43,240
That's sort of my answer.
634
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:46,880
Definitely the deepest I've ever gotten on this podcast, so thank you, Nate.
635
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,640
That's what I'm here for.
636
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,640
There you go.
637
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,640
Thanks, Nate.
638
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,640
I appreciate you sharing that.
639
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,080
I feel like I can speak to this too.
640
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,760
She's a huge supporter.
641
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,280
I feel like she's a huge champion of what we do in your role, and I'm very grateful
642
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,640
for that too.
643
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:17,640
I can have your back on the work front, but I have a certain assurance and gratitude as
644
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,800
well that I know on the home front, you've got family who's very, very supportive, and
645
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,960
I know I have family too, who's supportive of what we do.
646
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,280
That's encouraging for me to see as well, because I know, okay, we both have people
647
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:38,280
in our corner, aside from me, who are encouraging us and supporting us.
648
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,040
I'm very grateful for that too.
649
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,040
Fantastic.
650
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,440
It's reciprocal, of course.
651
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,480
On to the next question here, folks.
652
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,520
Keep it moving.
653
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,520
Sorry?
654
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,520
Keep it moving.
655
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,200
Yeah, yeah, all good.
656
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,600
A few too quick questions to wrap up.
657
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,720
In-depth questions, as we've titled it here.
658
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:08,200
What are some of the strategic goals for the next 12 months with AIDS, and how do we
659
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:15,280
plan to achieve them without maybe not getting into the weeds here from a strategic perspective?
660
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:21,280
Yeah, the work permits are a huge one.
661
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:30,200
That's a huge goal, and then strategizing how we divide time, how we reach out to people,
662
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,680
how we build those bridges are going to be huge.
663
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:43,400
I have a lot of discussion about that over the next year.
664
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,720
Getting back to being in a physical space, I feel like, is one of those goals that we've
665
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:52,600
talked about for a while now, since last winter.
666
00:44:52,600 --> 00:45:00,720
Whether that's this coming 12 months, I don't know, but I think that's coming more and more
667
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:03,240
to the top of my head, personally.
668
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:08,120
I think they're going for us.
669
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,960
In terms of achieving anything right now, I'm hesitant to say I know, because I just
670
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:26,880
feel like every day just feels like a new, fresh start in a way.
671
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,960
Strategicals-wise, what comes to your mind besides those two things?
672
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,240
Obviously, there's a lot, but-
673
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:36,040
Yeah, there's definitely a lot.
674
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:42,000
I think from a market perspective, I definitely think the O1 is the biggest one for us right
675
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:51,160
around now, because it's definitely a key to another universe, a key to a door, and
676
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:56,240
not a house like my dock analogy earlier.
677
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:03,880
I think from a goals strategic, whether operational or strategic, I think in the next 12 months
678
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:19,720
it'd be great to do a little bit more on the creative side as well.
679
00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:27,240
Maybe bigger shows, not necessarily bigger shows, but maybe more shows and lengthier
680
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:33,680
shows maybe, and touring shows, which would be fantastic.
681
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,560
Not that we haven't done them, but just adding would be fantastic.
682
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:45,200
Just getting as well different perspectives where it's like we've been doing a lot of
683
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:50,400
rock and pop, it'd be great to diversify even just for ourselves in regards to challenging
684
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:55,120
ourselves in different genres and different ways to think about a show would be fantastic,
685
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,600
just from a strategic point of view.
686
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:05,720
I say strategic because it is a strategic outset that we would have to have if we would
687
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:10,920
want to change that, because a lot of creative directors, a lot of musical directors put
688
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:16,360
themselves in a niche a lot of times, and a lot of clients know them for a specific
689
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,360
genre.
690
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:25,560
It'd be great for us to look at other things, not necessarily from a networking side, but
691
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,920
just from a challenging ourselves on the creative side.
692
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:35,720
What do these people like and need versus these other people in this other genre, I
693
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:39,240
think would be very interesting, just from a strategic point of view.
694
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:42,040
While we're still early on in our process at 8s.
695
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,520
Yeah, I agree.
696
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,280
I'd be very curious to dabble in some other genres.
697
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:53,480
I'm going to think about that too.
698
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Fantastic.
699
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,440
All right, Nate, it's time for the fun questions.
700
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,440
Oh, finally.
701
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,440
I know.
702
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,440
Would you like to start?
703
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,440
Yeah.
704
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,440
All right.
705
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,440
Yeah, let's do this.
706
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,440
Yeah, all right.
707
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,520
Yeah, let's power through some fun questions.
708
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,520
Let's do it.
709
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,200
Quick, quick answers here.
710
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,000
Gosh, insert transition here.
711
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Boom, boom, boom.
712
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,000
Josh is my brother.
713
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,000
He's been editing the podcast.
714
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:27,000
I don't know if that's ever been mentioned, but yeah, he's our like Jamie.
715
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,000
I'm kidding.
716
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Sorry.
717
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,000
You can cut that out.
718
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:42,600
Why was your earliest, as you can remember, favorite band?
719
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,280
Oh, the Beatles.
720
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,280
That's an easy one.
721
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,280
Oh, really?
722
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,280
Yeah.
723
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,880
Like earliest band, you're like, that's my favorite band is Beatles.
724
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,880
Yeah.
725
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:51,880
Yeah.
726
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,160
It was a high chair vibes for me.
727
00:48:54,160 --> 00:49:02,520
Especially the Beatles album with the Beatles was a high chair sort of spoon feeding mat
728
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,760
and the dinner table album vibe.
729
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,320
So that was very, very early on.
730
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,120
The Beatles have been a part of my family forever.
731
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:17,600
Still one of my most listened to sort of groups of all time.
732
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,080
I listened to The Revolver today.
733
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,640
Still yeah, definitely the Beatles.
734
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:33,560
Now on my, in my sort of adult life and maybe my adolescence and whatever, it's been Radiohead
735
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:40,360
for the longest time, as you probably know, as people that listen to this podcast also
736
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,840
probably know.
737
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:48,360
If you follow me on Instagram, you know it's Radiohead.
738
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,280
But yeah, yourself.
739
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,480
I know we said that we weren't going to do that yourself for the fun questions, but I
740
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,480
want to know.
741
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,080
You know, I didn't, it's funny.
742
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,600
I didn't listen to a lot of like bands.
743
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,600
Yeah.
744
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,520
Like my dad and I would make a lot of like mixtapes.
745
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:10,120
It's like I was still like, I'm really dating myself here.
746
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,280
Okay Nate, we're in our 20s.
747
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,280
Maybe you would kill me for saying that.
748
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:24,080
But like we make a lot of cassettes or like CDs and like put a bunch of them together.
749
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,360
And then like when we were like driving around, like go play basketball or like go to like
750
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,640
my grandparents' house, we'd like play these tapes.
751
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,120
And, but it was a lot of like 70s and like 80s music, obviously.
752
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,120
Right.
753
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:46,640
Like a lot like Chic, KC and the band, or like the cars, like a lot of stuff like that
754
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,440
that my dad grew up on.
755
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,440
Yeah.
756
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,720
There was like one band, but it was like a lot of those like 70s funk, like cool and
757
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:53,720
the gang.
758
00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:54,720
There you go.
759
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:55,720
Hey, all right.
760
00:50:55,720 --> 00:51:02,000
So my dad would play a lot of those like funk kind of fun music.
761
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,400
So yeah, I don't know if I could pick one, but maybe like probably the earliest earliest
762
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,320
would be like some of those like Chic or like cool and the gang.
763
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,320
That's crazy.
764
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,320
That's great.
765
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:18,200
And on that sort of note, my first question to you as a fun question is if eights were
766
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,800
a band, what genre would it be?
767
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,800
Oh, what genre?
768
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,800
I thought it was going to be what band.
769
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,800
What band would it be?
770
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,800
It would be Tears for Fears for sure.
771
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,800
Okay.
772
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:35,160
I thought you were going to say like a duo of some sort.
773
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,960
No, they're a duo.
774
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,960
Okay.
775
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:38,960
Sorry.
776
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,960
A Wham.
777
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,800
Simon and Garfunkel.
778
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:49,600
What genre would it be?
779
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:50,600
Yeah.
780
00:51:50,600 --> 00:52:01,720
I mean, that's a tough one.
781
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:04,400
Probably thrash metal.
782
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,520
Yeah, big thrash metal guys.
783
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:12,960
I don't think we are like our first bond like conversation ever we had, we like bonded over
784
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:21,480
to like R&B like D'Angelo and like MJ and like a lot of that R&B.
785
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:27,360
They had always more pop leaning, but like, you know, that vibe.
786
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,760
No, I feel like somewhere in there.
787
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,760
Like, yeah.
788
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,760
Yeah.
789
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,040
And you know, I don't know if that's our demographic.
790
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,720
You know what I'm saying?
791
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:42,200
You can probably cut that.
792
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:47,480
I don't know what you're talking about with that one.
793
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,480
Or John Mayer.
794
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,080
I was like, anything that's kind of in that wheelhouse of like pocket.
795
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,080
Yes.
796
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:58,720
Like that's, I feel like when we first like met, we like talked a lot like, you know,
797
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:22,680
you're like talking to
798
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,320
What are we doing here?
799
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,440
Oh yeah, Pocho pizza is crazy.
800
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,560
I was thinking it's like A&W or something, bro.
801
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,800
Oh yeah, A&W does smash.
802
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,840
I feel like we do a lot of shmorm.
803
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,420
Oh, a little shmorm, yeah.
804
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:37,840
Yeah.
805
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,160
Okay, no pizzas, yeah, that's very valid.
806
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,920
Pizza is my favorite food just generally,
807
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,000
but yeah, please go ahead.
808
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,200
What were you gonna say?
809
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,280
Yeah, no, I was gonna ask your favorite pizza places
810
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,360
in Toronto for those who don't know.
811
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,200
This is an off-chart. For those who don't know,
812
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,240
Batty Alley,
813
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,720
Argyle Street, fantastic.
814
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:03,720
That is your number one in Toronto, yeah.
815
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:05,920
That's my number one in Toronto, yeah.
816
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,960
Batty Alley, there's so many more,
817
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,280
like literally so many more.
818
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,720
Toronto's so great. And I did my Batty Alley
819
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:14,200
for the first time with you.
820
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,680
You did?
821
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,440
And Earth to Emily, shout out.
822
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,240
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, Earth to Emily is probably
823
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:24,320
yeah, easily one of the best pizza pizza I've ever had
824
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,160
in my life.
825
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,800
Right, and it rivals New York, and that's saying a lot.
826
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah, compared to like the best,
827
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,240
the best pizza I've had in New York is like,
828
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:34,040
that's like right beside it.
829
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,680
Fantastic. What's a dream project you'd love for eight
830
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,800
to take on no matter how wild?
831
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:46,560
Okay.
832
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,160
Maybe not necessarily now, but like, you know,
833
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,680
in like, you know, like just like dream it up, brother.
834
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,560
Yeah, I wanna do, I wanna do something like more multimedia
835
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:00,920
at some point.
836
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:01,760
Okay, yeah.
837
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,480
I don't know what that is, but like,
838
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,400
if we could ever work with a team that includes like,
839
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,840
like a full video crew and like dance crew,
840
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,680
like I've always wanted to like,
841
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,200
Yeah, yeah.
842
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,320
produce a project where it's like, I get, you know,
843
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,280
or like I, you, whatever the roles are,
844
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,800
I get to like communicate with like a visual director
845
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,080
and like a choreo team.
846
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:24,920
Yeah.
847
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,600
I don't know if that's for a music video or for like,
848
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,160
or like I've always wanted to do like a full album
849
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,920
recording live, you know what I mean?
850
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:33,760
Right, yes.
851
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,600
Like a full album and like see like, you know,
852
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,360
like create like a movie out or something.
853
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,600
That's maybe a bit more like a personal thing,
854
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,160
but I'm just like, there's a couple albums
855
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,000
that I've like listened to,
856
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,240
and I'm like, oh, I would love to do this as like a whole
857
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:50,880
visual thing, you know?
858
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,680
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
859
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,040
So, and I feel like we would be very,
860
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,000
like that would be a very exciting project for us
861
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,280
because we both have experience outside of just music.
862
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,120
Yeah.
863
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,360
So I would love to see us get to do something.
864
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,880
I don't know what that is, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
865
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,880
Probably define a project, but it's something that
866
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,120
incorporates more than just, just music, you know?
867
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,720
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
868
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:15,920
I agree.
869
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,120
No, VR.
870
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:17,960
No, I'm kidding.
871
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
872
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,640
I'm curious to know your answer to that,
873
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,640
even though I know it's everyone do that.
874
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,120
Yeah, yeah, very similar.
875
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,400
I think for me, one of my big references of all time
876
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,840
for just, you know, just a creative project
877
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,000
is Radiohead's From the Basement Sessions,
878
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,120
both from a musical standpoint,
879
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,920
from a video standpoint.
880
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,760
I love live from the studio recordings,
881
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,200
sort of a live off the floor vibe for that.
882
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,680
And just, and it's the performances,
883
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,720
but it's also like the B-roll stuff, you know?
884
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:03,520
Like the cheeky, like getting into the studio,
885
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,080
you know, it's a, what does the outside sort of look like?
886
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,240
What does the inside look like when they're setting up,
887
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:10,840
when they're talking in between takes?
888
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,040
Like I love that stuff.
889
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,360
That stuff is really juicy.
890
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,800
There you go.
891
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,800
Great, I agree.
892
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,760
So live off the floor stuff or the Super Bowl.
893
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,760
So there you go.
894
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:23,960
Oh, okay.
895
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,440
Yeah, yeah.
896
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,000
Adam Blackfield, if you're listening.
897
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,760
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
898
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,960
Cool, okay, cool.
899
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:34,360
That was your question.
900
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,280
So my turn, right?
901
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,800
To ask a question. Yes, yeah.
902
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,800
What's your biggest, oh, bleep moment on stage
903
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,920
that you can remember and to just keep it like PG
904
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,480
and like, you know, we didn't know what moment that is.
905
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,400
And what did you do?
906
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,120
That's a great question.
907
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:04,120
My question back is as a drummer
908
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,600
or as a non-drummer?
909
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,720
It could be either.
910
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,800
Whatever is more like in like just either recent memory
911
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,240
or like comes to mind.
912
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,240
Yeah, well, the big recent memory is the Shub Arena tour
913
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:30,240
where our playback rig shut down mid sort of show.
914
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:39,120
And we need to really, you know, think about some options.
915
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,240
And long story short,
916
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,720
the show still went on for a while.
917
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:53,720
The show still went on and we saved the show,
918
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,240
but there were some big chats afterwards.
919
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,880
To keep it long story short as well,
920
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,480
the next show was fantastic.
921
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,480
Very briefly, what did you do in the moment?
922
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:18,480
I panicked, I almost had a, literally had a panic attack.
923
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,760
It was one of my first times that it had happened
924
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,280
in that role for sure.
925
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,760
It wasn't a pleasant moment.
926
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,000
Like if I'm being like completely honest.
927
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,320
So it was from a playback perspective
928
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,760
and it was from a interface perspective
929
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,280
it was interface interacting with both laptops,
930
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,080
redundant laptops.
931
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,920
And in the moment, I basically shut off the redundancy
932
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,800
and made the session much, much, much, much leaner
933
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,960
so that the laptop would run much, much smoother
934
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:04,800
and without any sort of redundant aspects to it.
935
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,560
So I know it's big, how do you say that?
936
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:13,560
It's, how do I say that?
937
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,880
It's a lot of details there for those
938
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,120
not in the playback world,
939
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:22,400
but basically just paring down the system
940
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,760
to just the essentials to finish the show.
941
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,760
And at a certain point, the auto-tune wasn't working.
942
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,120
So I had to change all the auto-tune settings
943
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,360
for about 30 minutes of a show, of a rap show,
944
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,880
which is crazy.
945
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,720
I had one laptop, somebody else's laptop,
946
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,160
our production manager's laptop in one hand,
947
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,280
and I had the details of each song, the auto-tune songs
948
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,960
and when they were changing in the song.
949
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,840
And I was literally manually doing it on the UA plugin.
950
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,200
Yeah, that's crazy.
951
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,160
So that was that night.
952
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,640
Yeah, so that's definitely one of the biggest
953
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,600
oblique moments, as you said.
954
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:07,440
Yeah.
955
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,320
That's from a playback perspective.
956
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,000
From a drummer's perspective,
957
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,320
there hasn't been much.
958
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,000
There's been a few times, oh, well, actually very,
959
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:23,640
very early on in my career, in my high school,
960
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,560
let's say my high school playing days,
961
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:31,560
I was at a festival and I was hitting the bass drum
962
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:36,560
a little too hard and I broke the skin of the batter head
963
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,720
and the festival being a high school festival
964
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,600
didn't have any replacements.
965
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:49,600
So lucky enough, we were like the last band
966
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,760
or the last song, so we just ended there
967
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,600
and finished the song.
968
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,480
But yeah, that was one of the, I'm just remembering now,
969
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,920
I haven't even thought of that moment in many, many,
970
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,960
many years, but I've been lucky enough
971
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,880
from a drummer's perspective or from an onstage perspective
972
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,240
to not have had too many too like crazy things.
973
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,080
That's good.
974
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,440
And just to speak to that one moment in Australia too,
975
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,720
like I know, I remember getting texts from you
976
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:20,560
at like four in the morning,
977
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,680
cause it was like a time change was crazy.
978
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,280
16 hours, I think.
979
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,240
Yeah, but the team, I remember hearing it was very proud
980
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,600
of how you handled all that,
981
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,280
even though I know it was a hyper stressful
982
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,920
and we never wanna have you in that situation again.
983
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,360
Very proud of how you handled it.
984
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,560
And I'm proud of you for how you handled it.
985
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,000
And I'm glad we're over it though, but.
986
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:43,840
Thanks man.
987
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,520
Yeah.
988
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,240
Yeah, of course.
989
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,200
What is your go-to guilty pleasure song?
990
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,040
Yeah, that's a really tough one.
991
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:58,720
Cause I think it changes a lot.
992
01:02:58,720 --> 01:02:59,880
I feel like it changes.
993
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:02,880
Yeah.
994
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:03,720
I'm trying to,
995
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:06,680
so I'm trying to think of like
996
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,720
how much I wanna embarrass myself right now.
997
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:09,560
It's,
998
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,000
oh, I know what it is.
999
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,400
Bro, you know what it is?
1000
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,800
It's Simple Plans version of the Scooby Doo theme song.
1001
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,560
That song goes so unnecessarily hard.
1002
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:27,400
That's so funny.
1003
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:31,160
And it's melodically, like just the rhythm of it.
1004
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,640
Like, and I'm not saying I haven't listened to a lot,
1005
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,720
but the amount of times that song will just come up
1006
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,000
in my head,
1007
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,000
now like notice it like stuck in my head.
1008
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,000
I don't know why.
1009
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,760
I think it's cause I grew up with that version of Scooby Doo.
1010
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,240
That or.
1011
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,240
And can I touch on that very quickly?
1012
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:52,880
The beaches were just opening up for them
1013
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,360
at a festival in Europe.
1014
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,520
They play that live.
1015
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,720
And they play it live.
1016
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,080
Yeah, Scooby Doo song.
1017
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,200
Yeah, it's crazy.
1018
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,040
Yeah.
1019
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:03,040
That or I'm like,
1020
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,400
well, I literally have Spotify open right now.
1021
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:09,000
You'll see, I know,
1022
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,080
I probably some like rock song,
1023
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:11,920
like you know what I mean?
1024
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:12,760
Like.
1025
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:13,600
Oh, I know what you mean.
1026
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,000
Like Cypress or Cross or something.
1027
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:15,840
I mean, like.
1028
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,240
And I'm like, listen, I have no way to work.
1029
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,080
Like.
1030
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,000
Da da da da.
1031
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,280
Fantastic.
1032
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:24,120
Yeah.
1033
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,440
Simple Plans song, absolutely rips.
1034
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,520
And it's not you.
1035
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:29,360
What about you?
1036
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,960
Oh, I thought we were going to do that.
1037
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:32,800
No, I know.
1038
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,760
But again, I know the people got to know they're asking.
1039
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,640
I don't.
1040
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,200
Vogue by Madonna.
1041
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,200
Well, that's a great song.
1042
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,760
But the thing is, is that like.
1043
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,080
Not to like cheapen out my answer here,
1044
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,920
but I feel like I'm not necessarily very
1045
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,040
ashamed of what I listen to, I guess.
1046
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,520
Not that you're not, you're ashamed.
1047
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,720
I guess maybe, maybe for myself
1048
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,880
and I'm cheapening the question here,
1049
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,040
maybe it's like, what, what sort of music
1050
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,200
would people not expect you to listen to?
1051
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,040
Oh yeah.
1052
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:15,880
Okay.
1053
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:16,720
I don't know.
1054
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:17,680
I listened to a lot of like jazz,
1055
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,040
a lot of classical type of music.
1056
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,000
Classical type stuff.
1057
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,480
I do love a Christmas song though.
1058
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,920
A Christmas song, maybe to go to the guilty pleasure.
1059
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,400
I love a Christmas type song,
1060
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,360
holiday song in the summertime.
1061
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,000
Like, like just Christmas songs in general.
1062
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,600
Just Christmas songs in the summertime.
1063
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:44,080
I often find myself singing holiday songs
1064
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,600
in the kitchen in like July.
1065
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,400
So yeah, it's like, you know,
1066
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,320
I'm just looking forward to the winter time.
1067
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:54,160
That's so interesting.
1068
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,400
I have a very strict like tradition with myself
1069
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,920
that I don't allow myself to listen to Christmas music
1070
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:02,640
until like after American Thanksgiving,
1071
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,160
at least if not December 1st.
1072
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,000
Yeah.
1073
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:08,520
Yeah.
1074
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:10,600
Yeah.
1075
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:11,480
It just naturally comes up,
1076
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,040
which is probably the guilty pleasure part of my answer.
1077
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:15,880
Yeah.
1078
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,320
Like we're talking like simply having
1079
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:20,320
a wonderful Christmas time.
1080
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:21,320
Literally that one.
1081
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:22,880
Yes. I have it in my head right now.
1082
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:23,720
Yeah.
1083
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,000
I love that song.
1084
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:26,840
The Paul McCartney version.
1085
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,560
That song, I don't know what it is.
1086
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,280
I think because it's like, yeah.
1087
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,120
Poor guy.
1088
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:32,960
The sun is up.
1089
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,040
You know what I'm saying?
1090
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:34,880
Yeah.
1091
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:35,720
The sky is blue.
1092
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:37,480
Fantastic.
1093
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,880
They're all like, yeah, yeah.
1094
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:40,720
All right.
1095
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,680
Nate, let's do one more question each here.
1096
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:48,680
Okay.
1097
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:50,640
Okay.
1098
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,160
I'm gonna ask this one because this is the one
1099
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,080
that I postponed earlier in our chat.
1100
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:54,920
Okay.
1101
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,720
I kind of reframed it just a little bit mentally,
1102
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,080
but I was gonna ask you about
1103
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,080
not playing the drums very much anymore.
1104
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:01,960
Yeah.
1105
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,040
As I feel like I haven't seen you play the drums a whole lot.
1106
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,880
I think the Emily, Earth's Emily show we did,
1107
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:08,800
you played on that.
1108
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:09,640
And there'd been a couple of-
1109
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,400
The Jade one recently.
1110
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,480
Yeah. Yeah. Jade one.
1111
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,240
But it hasn't taken up as much time
1112
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,360
as it had in previous years.
1113
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:20,200
Yeah.
1114
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,400
You know, I think it's an obvious answer
1115
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,160
if I ask like, do you miss it?
1116
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,720
But how do you stay fulfilled creatively right now
1117
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:29,960
with everything going on?
1118
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:32,760
That's a great question.
1119
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,760
And just to be fairly frank,
1120
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,760
I am not creatively fulfilled right now.
1121
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:42,160
What?
1122
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,840
I'm not able to.
1123
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,720
Yeah. You know, I think,
1124
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,680
well, to get to the first part of your question,
1125
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:48,720
I think the drums,
1126
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,520
I haven't been playing a lot of drums lately
1127
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,960
because of space.
1128
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,200
So if you remember maybe a few AIDS updates ago,
1129
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,640
we were chatting about not having a physical space anymore.
1130
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:04,560
And that ended in January of this year, 2024.
1131
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,360
So that alone is a very, very big barrier,
1132
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,560
especially in Toronto for drummers
1133
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,160
to not necessarily have a space.
1134
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:14,640
So that's been a very big part
1135
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:19,520
of not necessarily being creatively fulfilled
1136
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,640
and not necessarily having the playing time
1137
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,160
that I'd love to have.
1138
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:30,600
In regards to the creative fulfillment,
1139
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,920
I guess it's been heavily balanced
1140
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,840
on the business side of the scale recently
1141
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,280
where it's been a lot of creative,
1142
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,800
like creative development on the business side,
1143
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,400
but also a lot of just operationally,
1144
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:48,840
thinking about that,
1145
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:53,760
being a little bit more on the side stage of things
1146
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,520
in regards to our clients and our contracts,
1147
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,240
being more on the creative direction,
1148
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,400
musical direction and playback side of things,
1149
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,360
which have been very professionally fulfilling,
1150
01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:10,120
but maybe from a creative side, it's a little less
1151
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,360
because I'd say a lot of our contracts,
1152
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:19,240
as of right now, which is, I wanna emphasize as of right now,
1153
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:25,440
is maybe, maybe I'd say 10% on the creative side,
1154
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:26,720
but once we get to rehearsals,
1155
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,360
it's like all about like the refinement of the idea.
1156
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,400
So from that perspective,
1157
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,440
that 10% is not necessarily fulfilling me creatively
1158
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:40,440
all the time, I haven't necessarily been chatting
1159
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,800
a lot about this on the pod or publicly or anything
1160
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,360
like that, but I'm taking some steps towards
1161
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:53,360
maybe a few different solo project ideas,
1162
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,000
so that's interesting, more on that probably
1163
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:02,000
at another time, but also through this creative fulfillment,
1164
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:07,000
I've been taking the time to develop my creative references
1165
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,680
and listening a lot more than chatting,
1166
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,280
or maybe not chatting because I do a lot of chatting
1167
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:22,280
on the podcast, but listening more than expressing,
1168
01:10:25,480 --> 01:10:27,480
I think is the right way to say it,
1169
01:10:27,480 --> 01:10:30,680
where I'm gathering a lot of information right now
1170
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,080
from other people in the podcast,
1171
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,080
from other people in my network,
1172
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,840
from the clients that we have a lot,
1173
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,240
but not necessarily expressing, which I am missing,
1174
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,520
but I'm also recognizing that taking it in
1175
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,040
is also sometimes more important than expressing,
1176
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:54,360
and just seeing that, and I'm very, very happy with that.
1177
01:10:54,440 --> 01:10:56,880
So to answer your question very broadly,
1178
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,560
maybe not necessarily creatively fulfilled
1179
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,360
at the very moment, but I'm still very happy.
1180
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:08,360
So that's great, but hopefully moving more
1181
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,880
in that direction shortly.
1182
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:17,080
That being said, there's still a lot of work to do
1183
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,120
on AITS and I recognize that as well.
1184
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,560
So I wanna balance my time because of my answer earlier
1185
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,680
that I was saying, the responsibilities
1186
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,640
that we're taking with AITS as business owners,
1187
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,000
but also the responsibilities at home as a human,
1188
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,240
it's taking up, I'd say like 110% of my time.
1189
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,920
So trying to get some time for that,
1190
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,600
creative fulfillment is taking the back burner right now,
1191
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,120
but it is what it is.
1192
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,640
I'm sorry, and it's important though,
1193
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,240
because it recharges you,
1194
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,480
and that's something I've been keeping in mind too,
1195
01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:55,040
is like for both of us,
1196
01:11:55,040 --> 01:12:00,040
is it possible to have some of that carved out
1197
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,120
in some way, shape or form?
1198
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,520
What does that look like?
1199
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,040
Really hard in the first year.
1200
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:07,720
Yes.
1201
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,120
But like, what can we do on that front?
1202
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,360
Yes, I get that, man, I get that,
1203
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,000
but I appreciate you sharing that.
1204
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:15,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1205
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:18,640
Thank you for the question.
1206
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,720
I wanna ask you a lighter question,
1207
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,320
maybe a little bit on that side.
1208
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,080
What is your perfect day off?
1209
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,080
Talking about responsibilities and things like that,
1210
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,840
what if we had a day off, which is crazy,
1211
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,480
because I don't think we've had an eighth day off
1212
01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:40,000
really ever, where we've said,
1213
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,600
okay, let's not talk today.
1214
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,920
If you had an entire day off with no responsibilities,
1215
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,480
how would you spend it?
1216
01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:51,480
I would, well, that's a great question.
1217
01:12:53,480 --> 01:12:58,480
Like I would get up in the morning, sleep in a little bit.
1218
01:12:58,760 --> 01:12:59,600
Yeah.
1219
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,640
Have my coffee, and maybe read a little bit.
1220
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:06,480
Okay.
1221
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:13,720
And then I would fit in some basketball with my friends
1222
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:18,720
and I would fit in some basketball with my dad.
1223
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:22,000
We played basketball a lot, so I'd fit that in.
1224
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,840
I would then go for a little coffee and walk,
1225
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,240
because it'd be summer, because obviously
1226
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,760
it's gonna be summer, because I don't like
1227
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:31,960
the winter very much.
1228
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:32,800
Yeah.
1229
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:34,760
And it's gonna be-
1230
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,680
More coffee, I just have to say more coffee there.
1231
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,440
Yeah, maybe a second coffee, maybe it's decaf,
1232
01:13:39,440 --> 01:13:41,280
maybe it's more of a specialty coffee at that time.
1233
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,280
Okay.
1234
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:46,080
And then a little walk, maybe lunch date kind of thing.
1235
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,480
And then have a little barbecue in the evening,
1236
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,320
outside, and then go hang out with some friends at night.
1237
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:56,920
Very active day.
1238
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,320
That sounds fantastic.
1239
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,080
That's like, if I could just like pick what I try
1240
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:07,080
to carve out, that would be a great day.
1241
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,760
And honestly, not that crazy, Nate.
1242
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,840
And I think we should, as a lesson to ourselves today,
1243
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,800
as a lesson to ourselves today, that should be doable.
1244
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:21,720
Didn't think about that.
1245
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,120
I was not thinking grand, I was thinking,
1246
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,600
what would I like to do tomorrow?
1247
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1248
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:28,920
Labor day.
1249
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,680
That's true, perfect day.
1250
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:31,520
No, you know what?
1251
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,360
No, no, no, no, no.
1252
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,960
I'd go to my grandparents' farm, I think.
1253
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,280
What I'm actually saying about this is that
1254
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,960
if that's the perfect day, as you see it,
1255
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,360
I think as a lesson to ourselves,
1256
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,880
that should be something that we should be
1257
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,880
empowering ourselves to do.
1258
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:48,720
You know what I'm saying?
1259
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,040
I think we'll rebook next Saturday to do that.
1260
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:51,880
Yes, yes.
1261
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,080
No, yeah, okay.
1262
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:57,480
More grand would be like going,
1263
01:14:57,480 --> 01:14:59,800
I would love to go to Canada's Wonderland right now.
1264
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,000
I haven't been in years.
1265
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:05,920
And again, that's not crazy.
1266
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,360
You know what I'm saying?
1267
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,920
Okay, I wanna go to the Himalayan Mountain, bro.
1268
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,240
I wanna like...
1269
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,360
No, no, but what I'm saying is that
1270
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,440
this is even a better answer and question
1271
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:16,680
than I thought it was gonna be
1272
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,440
because it just speaks to the fact that we can do this
1273
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:22,440
and just, I wanna be that guy
1274
01:15:22,440 --> 01:15:24,880
and allow ourselves to do that.
1275
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,960
And it's a great way to finish this podcast
1276
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,760
because it really speaks to...
1277
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:29,920
You don't have to answer it.
1278
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:30,760
Sorry?
1279
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,040
You don't have to answer this, too.
1280
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,080
No, I know, I know, but what I'm saying is that
1281
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,120
it's a great AIDS update
1282
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,880
because it's also us realizing that we can also do that
1283
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,800
and empowering also our listeners to do that as well.
1284
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:45,640
That's true.
1285
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:52,800
My perfect day off is no coffee
1286
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,440
because I'm not a coffee drinker.
1287
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,560
Maybe no reading as well.
1288
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:00,960
I love a book.
1289
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,200
I do love reading.
1290
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,480
I do read a lot, but in a perfect day,
1291
01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:09,480
I'm probably not reading.
1292
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:10,360
Man.
1293
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,160
I don't know.
1294
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:19,160
A perfect day off at home is Marina also having a day off
1295
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,000
so that we can spend it together.
1296
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,400
A little brunch, probably.
1297
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,120
Brunch time.
1298
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:35,120
I love a big brunch sitch, probably later afternoon,
1299
01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:41,320
probably just to sit around, maybe a little movie.
1300
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,000
I love an afternoon movie
1301
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,880
because you get to finish a movie.
1302
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:46,560
Right.
1303
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,240
Because I'm a big sleeper at night when I do movies
1304
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:52,720
or shows or anything like that.
1305
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:57,000
So I love a good afternoon movie.
1306
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:02,000
And then probably a hangout with some friends.
1307
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,200
At some point during the day, I love a good friend hang,
1308
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,120
but I also love cooking.
1309
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:11,760
And I know you know this about me.
1310
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,040
I would do a little bit of an elaborate dinner.
1311
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,800
So probably not a lunch.
1312
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,560
I would do a brunch, no lunch, big dinner.
1313
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:22,400
Ooh.
1314
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,880
Those days are banging, man.
1315
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,600
I love those.
1316
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,840
With a little snack with the afternoon movie though.
1317
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:33,800
You know what I'm saying?
1318
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:34,920
So that's a great day.
1319
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,320
What do you do on a Saturday, bro?
1320
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:37,520
What was that?
1321
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:38,600
What are you doing next Saturday?
1322
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,000
Yeah, yeah.
1323
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,760
Wanna do basketball, lunch, brunch, barbecue,
1324
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,160
an elaborate dinner, hang out with the bros?
1325
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,760
Staff day, staff family day.
1326
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:51,720
Staff family day.
1327
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,240
We should chat about that.
1328
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,320
But that's how we end the episode today, folks.
1329
01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:59,760
I hope you enjoyed it.
1330
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,280
Nate, thank you so much for the chat today.
1331
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,160
It was very great to chat with you.
1332
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:06,640
We asked about the company,
1333
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:11,640
but also about this friendship, I guess, in a way.
1334
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,920
We've been getting caught up in a lot of business stuff.
1335
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:21,000
And it's great to have a chat, yes, on the air, recorded,
1336
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,440
which is funny, but still to have a little bit more
1337
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,440
fun with it.
1338
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:29,840
And I think that's important.
1339
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,760
So thanks for coming on.
1340
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:32,600
Of course, man.
1341
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,600
Appreciate you and excited to get at it tomorrow morning.
1342
01:18:37,480 --> 01:18:38,320
Cool, man.
1343
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,480
Okay, well, thanks again.
1344
01:18:41,480 --> 01:18:43,600
For those who have been here,
1345
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,120
I hope it's not necessarily your last episode.
1346
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,400
Maybe it's your first.
1347
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,840
I hope you come on in the next few weeks.
1348
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,640
We've got some great guests lined up
1349
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,880
and stay tuned on our socials.
1350
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,280
I'm not gonna do a typical conclusion to this episode.
1351
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:01,440
I've decided it just now
1352
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:03,960
because I want to end it on this note.
1353
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,480
Have fun this week.
1354
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:09,520
Have a good time.
1355
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,920
Don't necessarily only think about work.
1356
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,360
And we'll chat very soon.
1357
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:16,800
Thanks again, everybody.
1358
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,800
I'll see you next time.