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Hello and welcome back to another episode of Authentically Connected.
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I am Beyond excited to welcome my guest, Arielle Schmidt.
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Arielle.
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Hello.
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Hello.
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It's so good to be here.
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I am really excited about this conversation.
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I'm excited to see the directions that we're gonna move and hopefully enlighten some listeners.
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I have no doubt that we will.
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So I invited you on because you've been an incredibly important presence and provider in my life.
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Um, you are my Thai yoga therapist.
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Since August of 23.
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That's when I started working with you.
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And the difference that the work that we've been doing together has made in my life has been tremendous.
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I am given to hyperbole in general.
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I'm just a person who likes to use a lot of those words, but I'm kind of sorry that I do that in general because it feels like it lessens how much I mean it when I say.
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You've made all the difference for me, so thank you.
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Well, I feel like I get a little bit out of our sessions as well, because we pick each other's brains back and forth on the different sides of stuff so it is a mutual benefit, honestly.
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Awesome, awesome.
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I'm so glad.
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That feels good.
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So I've invited you on because I think that the work you do is incredibly important, not only for me, but just in general, for people to understand what you understand through your education, your training, your work, and also on a personal level.
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And then you have, you have imparted your wisdom to me about the elements, about the meridians, about the way the body speaks to us, the language that my body has been using to communicate with me all the time.
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But I didn't speak the language before.
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You've helped me learn it.
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And I would love if we can just start with you sharing about, you know, who you are, a bit about your background, and also about what you do.
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Yeah, for sure.
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My background can be extremely long, so I'm gonna try to keep it short and every time I say that on a podcast, it goes way longer than it should.
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So I am, I'm really gonna try to cliff note it.
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It's all welcome.
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So my degree is in health, physical education and recreation.
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AKA kind of a made up degree 'cause I didn't know what I wanted to do in life.
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But during that time I found my way into yoga as a random credit, GPA booster.
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And while I was to going to college, I actually dropped into some corrections work at the local jail.
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Um, so both in college and when I moved to Cincinnati, so I'm originally from South Dakota.
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And so when I was kind of doing that yin yang lifestyle, I would say like 18 credits, going to school, working, being an athlete, all the things.
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It was really hard to find that balance.
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And so when I did drop into that semester long yoga class, I realized that my system was always running around like, go, go, go, go, go.
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And I actually hated yoga at first.
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Like the fact that it was slowing me down, like I just found it pointless.
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But after the semester evolved and I felt the sensational shifts in my own system, I didn't have language for it and I didn't really understand what was going on.
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But as a broke college student, I just made the wishful whim of going, you know what? I'm gonna go to India and learn this someday.
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And then fast forward, like however many years it took, probably, I think I was out in Cincinnati a few years before I had the opportunity, and it was pretty much kismet.
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I walked into the Cincinnati Yoga School, shout out to them.
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I love them.
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That is my biggest recommendation in Cincinnati.
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Go to them.
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But the owner taught the class that I went to.
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So my very first class with him, the owner was teaching and he said, Hey, don't forget, we're headed to India in six months.
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And I was not new to my corrections job at the time, but definitely new enough that I didn't have enough seniority to just be like, oh, hey, by the way, can I take 30 days off? I had the vacation time for it because of the crazy overtime, but I didn't know if I would actually get approved off and the universe was looking out for me.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I think I got like 26 out of the 30 days approved and had to do a couple shift trades.
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And next thing I knew I was off to India and I had like three or four breakdowns in India.
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One literally on the plane ride there going, oh my God, what did I just get myself into? Totally.
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And then again, when I got to India, I found out that we were learning Thai massage.
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And I literally went, what the actual f I don't wanna touch anybody I am not here to have fun.
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I am here to just learn.
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Mm-hmm.
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And that was also the protective mechanisms of my corrections work.
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Like you didn't allow anybody to get close to you.
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Mm-hmm.
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I was a pretty robotic person, especially being a female in that system.
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We did have male and females in there, but you know, you just learn to be a robot.
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'cause I didn't want to ever be taken advantage of or find myself in a manipulative position mm-hmm.
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Where they had something on me 'cause I gave them a favor or something.
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So I kept everything very black and white to the rule book.
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So very stark difference.
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And, um, The next thing you knew, I finished my training in India and I was like, oh my God, I love this, but I don't really know how to give Thai massage because it was so sporadic for those 30 days.
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That I just was like, okay, I have a five year plan.
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I'm gonna leave the jail in five years.
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That's when my retirement stuff kicks in or whatever.
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And I got back from India and I think like within 24 hours I got the call saying, Hey Schmidt, by the way, you're forced for another eight hour shift, which was 16 hours, day one of being back.
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And I just said, oh my God, are you, you gotta be kidding me.
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Mm-hmm.
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Like, this is my life.
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Just like working 16 12, 16, 12, 16, 12 with like zombie hours.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I signed up for a Thai training in Costa Rica that night.
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Mm.
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And so fast forward, it took one full rotation of a year.
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So February, 2017, I went to India and then February, 2018, I quit the jail.
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And I actually had started Tranquility rising September of 2017.
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And so there was a little bit of overlap where I was working the crazy 16 12, 16 12 And also trying to see Thai clients and you know, getting off at 4:00 AM seeing a 6:00 AM client.
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So kind of taking a nap in the studio as I like get outta my corrections clothes and like, it was rough for quite a while, but fast forward, it's been eight years and I still work myself like crazy, but only 'cause I love it.
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Wow.
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Thank you so much for describing that evolution and what was happening in your life at those times that led you to the next step and the next step after that, which led you here.
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And I would love it if you could share more about what Tranquility Rising is, your practice and what the kinds of things are that you do.
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And I can read off the list from your website.
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Part of me wants to because it's just such a fascinating list, but I'm gonna let you go ahead and describe and then we'll see if it feels right.
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Yeah.
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I'll, I'll tell you what Tranquility Rising does, and then the audience might wanna have an idea of why what we do is so different from maybe other modalities.
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Mm-hmm.
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Around Cincinnati or just in general.
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I don't, I can't say no one else does what I do, but the vast amount of training that I have, I think, influenced how I operate.
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Tranquility Rising, so at the core of Tranquility Rising is technically Thai Yoga Massage.
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We never categorize it as Thai Yoga massage because we're not ever looking for a client who is just like, oh, I have low back pain.
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Like, can you help? Sure.
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But you can also go see a deep tissue massage.
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You can go get sweet, you can go do a lot of things For a lot of problems on the physical side.
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So at our core, yes, we use the techniques of Thai massage, but the reason that we call it Thai therapy is because we, um, start integrating Ayurveda, which is the Indian version of Chinese medicine, is what I like to say.
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I don't know really how to describe it versus that.
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It brings in Chinese medicine through the five elements.
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And then we also have our yoga background.
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So I've got 500 hours of yoga training, not necessary, but it is helpful to understand how the body moves.
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And then my joke is always I learned how to kind of like break people before I healed people.
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Mm-hmm.
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And so like just being able to control and maneuver like that was always helpful.
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So that's a little background space.
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But why our Thai Yoga works is because we operate through the 12 major meridians of Chinese medicine, which is also you can call 'em, Sen lines.
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But essentially they're the major energy channels that run through the body.
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So what an acupuncturist uses for their acupuncture.
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Um, and then because we know those 12 energy lines, they are integrated into the five lower chakras, which are also like connected to the five elements of Chinese medicine.
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So we do go back and forth between these two modalities.
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Each of the 12 meridians has specific questions related to it.
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So we talk about boundaries, we talk about emotions, we talk about, where are you getting burned out in life, do you feel like you're stuck between decisions? Do you feel like you can't speak? And so on and so forth.
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Like tons and tons and tons of questions.
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To really fully understand your patterns at the core of what's going on in your life, either from protection mechanisms or trauma or just like your parents taught you a certain way.
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And so that's the core of Tranquility Rising.
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And then over the years we've integrated other modalities such as NARM, which is Neuro Affectionate Relationship Model, which is an actual therapeutic licensed psychologist space.
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I only have a basic training 'cause I am not a licensed psychologist, so we call it coaching, elemental Coaching.
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But the NARM explores early life patterns and connections without having to revisit the actual trauma itself, but by noticing the present patterns that we are dealing with in present day.
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And then my newest favorite offering is Aufstellung, also known as Family Constellation, which is a little bit more on the energy work of things.
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So we might get into that later in the podcast.
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Mm-hmm.
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Depending on how much we get.
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But that deals with inherited trauma, relational dynamics of the family field We try to blend all of these approaches together so that at the end of the day, clients go home with more understanding of why they are where they're at.
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Mm-hmm.
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Without judgment.
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Yes.
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That has been my experience very much so.
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Incredible.
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Thank you for laying that all out there.
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There's so much in what you do and the combination of things really, it just, you're so attuned to whatever it is that I need whenever I come and actually I'm, I'm realizing in this moment that I wanna share about how we met and what got me started with you because I think that, it goes along with what you're saying.
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So you ran into a friend who I happened to be having coffee with, and that was how we met.
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And so we went out for coffee.
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And as you were telling me about what you do, and I was trying to understand it better, I mentioned some discomfort I had in my body.
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I had this pain in my lower back that had been with me for a long time.
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I had done a lot of things for it.
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It always came back.
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That was the left side of my body.
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So I also had a, pain in my left scapula shoulder area.
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And the outside of my left leg.
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And you said, oh, that's your gallbladder line.
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Did you not feel heard, like you had a voice as a child? And my initial response was, no.
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Sometimes I did not.
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And how did you know that? And my second response internally was, what? How do those things connect? So then I was curious and as you explained how it worked, I just got more and more interested.
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And so I came in, I did my initial session with you, the was three hour.
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Yeah, we do a two and a half hour new client session where we do 30 minutes of intake just for clarification purposes.
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Mm-hmm.
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And that's kind of the, I call it the party trick version because you guys are telling me everything that's going on.
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And so I'm internally mapping out the meridians before I even touch your body.
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Mm-hmm.
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And so even if I never saw you in person, I could still give you, I put this in air quotes 'cause I can't diagnose, but I can give you a map of what's going on.
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And then we do 90 minutes of body work and then a 30 minute final presenting of findings.
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Yes.
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Right.
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So And that is exactly what happened.
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It was, it was a variety of different things in that first session.
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I remember feeling so incredibly grounded on the mat.
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Right.
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You started working on these meridians.
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So really a massage from the bottom up.
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One side of the body at a time.
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And then the other side of the body, And I should preface it, this is all fully clothed.
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Yes.
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'Cause we move you into all kinds of positions.
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Mm-hmm.
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And so when Rachel says massage we call it acupressure.
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Um, so you can think of it more as like a gentle rocking of like, having pressure come on and pressure come off.
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Mm-hmm.
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Versus like a physical oil based massage or lotion based massage.
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And I will accu pressure through either my thumb points, my palms, my elbows.
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Sometimes I'm walking on people.
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And sometimes we just get a little creative with combining some things together.
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Absolutely.
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Thank you for clarifying.
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Because you're absolutely right.
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It's not anything like a traditional massage it was so clear to me as you were doing the work you were doing, that something was shifting in my body and some spots were really uncomfortable.
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Right.
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There was discomfort in some of the areas where there were blockages and there were you call 'em gummies.
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I do call 'em gummy bears.
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And because we are running the fascia or the meridian lines run through the fascia of the body, not necessarily the muscles, which I know confuses people, but the fascia wraps the muscles.
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And so the energy lines run through the fascia.
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And so some people are like, oh, I'm just really knotted up all the time.
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And I'm like, but is it a physical muscle knot or is it an energetic block in the fascia? Mm-hmm.
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And sometimes we can't figure out the difference.
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That's why it takes some time.
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But some of the pain is also because meridians run through a lot of trigger points, which is why you can work on something in the shoulder and relieve the neck pain.
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Mm-hmm.
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And like some people feel, sensations like if I'm working reflexology in the feet.
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Then they're like, oh my gosh, I'm feeling this tingling up my right arm.
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So like the meridians run from toes to head, fingers to head.
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And I like to think of it as like clearing out a damned river.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yes, exactly.
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That's what it feels like.
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And as you work on the spaces and they start to clear out in my body, I feel this, this flow this feeling of wellbeing that is coursing through my body and it's the coolest thing ever.
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And it was brand new when I first did that initial intake.
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And then I signed up for a seven session.
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Do you call it a program or protocol? I.
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Think we've renamed it us a few times.
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Mm-hmm.
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Um, but right now it sits as the seven session reset.
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Reset.
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That's exactly what it was.
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So it was seven weeks in a row ish.
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The best we could do with that.
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And you do that, why, why do you have people do a seven session? Yeah, so we do the seven session reset because it allows us an individualized 90 minute session for each side of the body.
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And when we say each side of the body, it means we're gonna do first supine, which is face up.
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We're gonna do sideline, we're gonna do prone, which is face down.
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We're gonna do second supine, which is digestion and womb work.
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And then we also have a seated posture.
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And I know that's only five postures, but we always do a check in on day one, which kind of lets us explore all 12 of the meridians, very similar to our new client session.
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And then we finish with a two hour end cap, again, of full body so that we can ensure that the meridians are flowing correctly.
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Mm-hmm.
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And so.
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People don't like it when I say this, but we are literally dissecting the body mm-hmm.
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On side to side to side.
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And the reason that we do minimal once a week is so that we can ensure that we're picking up where we left off before too much time has passed and created more stagnation.
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Mm-hmm.
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So originally when this would've been created, like back back in the day, you would go to the spa or whatever they call it for an entire day and just get worked over and then, you know, it stretched out to seven days and then, you know, people don't have availability for that anymore.
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So now once a week and we try to give you guys a little bit of homework of like, Hey, do this yoga pose or do this stretch.
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I'm noticing X is happening underneath the armpit.
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Like, can you help keep these meridians open until the next time I see you? Absolutely.
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Um.
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I am realizing that I did not plug in my computer ahead of time and it's going to die.
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So I'm going to grab my power cord now and in real time, take care of this.
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It is so clear to me as a client of yours, the intentionality that goes into the work that you do with me.
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Your expertise that you bring in it's not only the training that you've done and the knowledge that you have, but it's all intuitive.
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You really connect with it.
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And with me.
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Through a felt sense.
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And I do wanna get into the body more in terms of somatics in a moment, but I realize I, I wanna see if we can talk some more about how you bring the elements in, because I have found discussions of, you know, what elements do I have too much of or not enough of in my life to be incredibly beneficial when you overlay that with meridians in the body.
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So can you share more about that? Yes.
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Um, so for those that might be better at visually understanding what this looks like, you can Google the five elements of Chinese medicine and a star will pop up traditionally and it has methods of creating support cycles and control cycles.
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And so each of the five elements helps the other one.
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But when we're imbalanced, it can create these insulting cycles or freeze moments, stagnation, whatever you wanna call it.
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So I'll try not to get too confusing and just talk.
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Specifically about each element versus how they interact with each other.
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Mm-hmm.
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Because that can get really complicated and it probably should be like a whole training.
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So there's five elements of Chinese medicine and we have earth, water, fire, air and space.
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And there's also other words for air and space such as metal and wood.
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But for me personally, I like using air and space just because of the analogies that we use for client space.
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So the earth element itself connects to first chakra.
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And so for first chakra work or earth work, we look at safety, security.
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How are we having the ability to stay present, not restless? The ability to ground find nourishment and just this deep sense of stability.
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I like to think of the five elements or the five lower chakras as also the first five years of age.
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So like, what would you need when you are at age one? You need a lot of support.
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You need a lot of stability, a lot of co grounding or co-regulation.
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And then like you're reliant on nourishment from literally anyone.
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Mm-hmm.
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Um, so that's the earth element.
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And when we find ourselves imbalanced we can either fall into deficiency, which creates fears, anxieties, restlessness, or we can fall into too much earth.
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And that would be this heavy unyielding, monotonous, sluggish, hoarding, materialistic space.
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created because of a lack of that balance state that we mentioned prior.
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Mm-hmm.
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So that's the earth element.
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When we move to the water element, this is second chakra work.
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So this is our emotional regulation space, our adaptability, our flow state.
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And when we find ourselves deficient in this space, we end up being much more numbed out.
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So welcome to my life as a corrections officer.
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Mm-hmm.
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And when we are in an excess here, we find ourselves in those big mood swings, the inability to regulate poor boundaries, just kind of swinging all over the place, trying to find the boundaries of where that water should be flowing.
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And then we go to the fire element, which is third chakra.
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I love to call this the spark space.
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This is the definition of who we are.
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This is our confidence, our self-esteem, our goodwill.
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All of that is balanced space.
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It also helps with our digestion, our transformation, joy, all of that.
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However, when we find ourselves in deficiency, this is where depression falls in.
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Weak will, low self-esteem, all of those negative spaces of self.
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And then if we find ourselves more in the excess space, this is the overly competitive, aggressive hyper independence.
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Again, welcome to me in corrections mode.
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Mm-hmm.
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So you're starting to see like how these deficiencies and excessiveness, um, really shapes us.
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Yes.
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And when we're not in a balanced state, they'll take over.
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Um, so the last two we've got air, which is heart chakra.
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This is our love space.
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This is our compassion.
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This is just everything that makes us feel supported and loved and all of that.
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However, when we find ourselves in critical or that deficient space, we get critical.
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We lack empathy.
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We self isolate.
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We kind of spiral inward.
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And when we're in the excess state, we find ourselves people pleasing, codependent, whether it's ourselves or allowing someone to be codependent.
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Just kind of going above and beyond too much, pushing ourselves in that direction.
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And then the final space is space, um, which is fifth chakra, which is our throat.
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So this is how, how do we use our voice? are we resonant? Are we truthful? Are we speaking with conviction? Are we just here for it? Kind of like we're talking right now.
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But if we're in a deficiency, again, we fall back into more of that weak voice.
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Weak will shy space and excess would be.
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You can hear 'em across the room.
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They're loud.
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They're over the top, they're gossipy.
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They're just obnoxious and like in your face all the time.
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And you're just like, oh my gosh, you're a lot.
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Yeah.
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So that's gonna be the excess state.
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So all five of those again correlate to the five lower chakras.
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And so in yoga, we're trying to reach those higher chakras.
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We have seven total, so chakra six and seven, both of those are trying to reach higher enlightenment.
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Mm-hmm.
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So the idea is if we can balance the five lower chakras, and I love the fact that my training integrated the Chinese medicine like, if you can get yourself into a more balanced state on a regular basis, you do get those moments of enlightenment and higher insight.
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And I can tell you my practice doing the work that I do.
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It really did start more on like the physical body work side of it, coupled with a little bit of emotional awareness.
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'cause I had the questions related to each meridian.
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However, I will probably say in the last couple years when I trained my secondary practitioner is really when I started leaning into the true intentionality of the work that we do.
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Mostly because I was afraid of being seen as like a fraud because a lot of energy work and things like that, like how do you prove it? Mm-hmm.
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And so I didn't lean into it until I started training her and it almost unlocked this little ability to share all the things that I had been doing over the years that I didn't feel comfortable speaking out loud.
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But now I have someone in my space who is like geeking out as much as I am.
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Yes.
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And then having clients like you come in and like.
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Openly, like, no, don't hide the geek out.
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Like, let me know more.
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Yes.
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Oh, that's, it's been freeing for you, it sounds like.
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Yeah.
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To be able to access that and open up about it.
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it's been a huge part of what has been so life changing for me, in the ability to learn about my body, learn about the energy meridians, the cha chakras, the, overlay of the earth elements, not earth elements, the elements but also the energy work piece.
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And we can come back to that later if we want to.
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But I, I wanted to name a couple things that I've really benefited from in the elemental space.
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And actually, hmm, it's possible that this wasn't an element, but I remember you were talking about too much sweetness.
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And I was in a space where I was certainly not balanced at my root.
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A lot of the things that you described, I was experiencing on both sides, showing that lack of, balance.
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But I was going for too much sweetness all the time.
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Anything that allowed me to feel comfort, pleasure, I was just like, I was like a rat and a maze with the sugar water.
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I was hitting that button over and over and at a certain point I wasn't enjoying it anymore.
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And you held space in a way that allowed me to name that without feeling any judgment whatsoever.
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And to actually feel like I could access the parts of me that desired to shift away from that.
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So the sweetness could be sweet again, and I could have balance at other times.
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Where does the sweetness fit in? Yeah.
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So you're spot on.
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It is part of the earth element.
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So there's two meridians with each of the elements and then four for fire.
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But I'm not gonna go dive.
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Dive.
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00:26:35,706.9949964 --> 00:26:35,796.9949964
Yeah.
344
00:26:35,796.9949964 --> 00:26:35,976.9949964
So.
345
00:26:36,621.9949964 --> 00:26:39,591.9949964
The spleen line is the one that Rachel is talking about.
346
00:26:39,591.9949964 --> 00:26:42,681.9949964
So this is the yin line of the earth element.
347
00:26:42,681.9949964 --> 00:26:51,981.9949964
And so when we talk about sweetness, we ask a few different questions like what or who is stealing your sweetness? Yes.
348
00:26:52,221.9949964 --> 00:27:10,261.9949964
Or what are you excessively drawn to? Then we look at addiction and so most people see addiction as like a negative thing, like drugs or alcohol or like binge eating or something to the negative side of them.
349
00:27:10,621.9949964 --> 00:27:20,941.9949964
But it can also be like I go to the gym twice a day and like that might not be helpful, but I always say like, if you're reaching for something over and over and over.
350
00:27:21,601.9949964 --> 00:27:24,436.9949964
What are we missing or where are we trying to cover up? Mm-hmm.
351
00:27:24,516.9949964 --> 00:27:35,631.9949964
And for me it is a nice crispy coke, I don't know what it is, but the moment I start reaching for a Coke every day I have to hit the hard red flag for me and go, whoa, wait a second.
352
00:27:36,501.9949964 --> 00:27:39,156.9949964
some part of my need space is not being met.
353
00:27:39,156.9949964 --> 00:27:39,516.9949964
Mm-hmm.
354
00:27:39,601.9949964 --> 00:27:50,661.9949964
Because the safety and security, the ability to be present, the ability to feel secure is being disrupted because that is the balance point of earth.
355
00:27:50,751.9949964 --> 00:27:51,21.9949964
Mm-hmm.
356
00:27:51,351.9949964 --> 00:28:00,85.3283298
So when I start reaching for those crispy Cokes I'm like, wait a second, I'm trying to cover up something that I have tuned out of.
357
00:28:00,85.3283298 --> 00:28:00,175.3283298
Mm-hmm.
358
00:28:00,685.3283298 --> 00:28:10,345.3283298
And so now that I have the awareness of this sweetness desire, I can hopefully pause long enough to connect in and adjust the imbalance.
359
00:28:11,440.3283298 --> 00:28:15,310.3283298
And the imbalances are always going to be a like swinging pendulum.
360
00:28:15,310.3283298 --> 00:28:15,400.3283298
Mm-hmm.
361
00:28:15,640.3283298 --> 00:28:20,930.3283298
Like we can never get it perfect because we are humans, we're not in a cave isolated.
362
00:28:21,260.3283298 --> 00:28:30,170.3283298
So our own experiences, our own to-do lists, you know, people that we encounter that we didn't expect to encounter, like all of it is gonna swing our shifts.
363
00:28:30,170.3283298 --> 00:28:40,670.3283298
And if we are not careful and paying attention, we'll miss those little moments like you were talking about, of like, I'm reaching for the sweetness piece and it's not satisfying anymore.
364
00:28:40,670.3283298 --> 00:28:47,480.3283298
So now I'm gonna do it more and more and more until it does reach a threshold that feels satisfying or I'm so numbed out.
365
00:28:47,810.3283298 --> 00:28:47,990.3283298
Yes.
366
00:28:48,80.3283298 --> 00:28:53,750.3283298
Which then goes into the water and then we get into this whole debate of like, how do we balance people out? Yes.
367
00:28:54,20.3283298 --> 00:28:58,40.3283298
What you just said feels familiar because we've been through this together before.
368
00:28:58,40.3283298 --> 00:29:03,470.3283298
But also it's reminding me of the arc of my, my evolution through our time together.
369
00:29:03,470.3283298 --> 00:29:14,210.3283298
So, you know, I was really off balance after our first session because you had unlocked some things that I knew I couldn't access just through therapy alone, which is part of why I wanted to see you.
370
00:29:14,510.3283298 --> 00:29:16,370.3283298
But then I had to work that outta my system.
371
00:29:16,370.3283298 --> 00:29:19,820.3283298
And then the seven session reset made a huge difference.
372
00:29:19,820.3283298 --> 00:29:21,650.3283298
And we've been doing maintenance work ever since.
373
00:29:21,650.3283298 --> 00:29:27,440.3283298
But you know, so I started with you in August of 23, and it was December of 24.
374
00:29:27,840.3283298 --> 00:29:40,50.3283298
When I actually got to a point where I had done enough work with you and my other therapist to no longer pathologize, no longer judge myself for the ways in which I was coping.
375
00:29:40,470.3283298 --> 00:29:48,790.3283298
I didn't have to like them all, but I recognized them as tools that parts of me were using to do that shortcut that you talked about.
376
00:29:49,0.3283298 --> 00:29:50,80.3283298
I don't feel grounded.
377
00:29:50,80.3283298 --> 00:29:51,10.3283298
I don't feel secure.
378
00:29:51,10.3283298 --> 00:29:54,160.3283298
I'm gonna do these things to bypass that and feel better.
379
00:29:54,460.3283298 --> 00:29:56,590.3283298
And so I stopped judging myself for it.
380
00:29:56,590.3283298 --> 00:30:02,490.3283298
And No longer judging myself for the use of those things allowed space for me to sit with.
381
00:30:02,580.3283298 --> 00:30:02,880.3283298
Hmm.
382
00:30:03,990.3283298 --> 00:30:06,450.3283298
I'm noticing this is not feeling sweet anymore.
383
00:30:06,780.3283298 --> 00:30:09,750.3283298
I'm noticing I'm doing some bypassing here.
384
00:30:09,750.3283298 --> 00:30:11,670.3283298
And I'd like to get back to feeling grounded.
385
00:30:11,670.3283298 --> 00:30:24,690.3283298
And that is what made me decide in December of 24 to make January of 25 my authentically connected month, right? So I was actually gonna do a dry January, and then I was reading Dopamine Nation.
386
00:30:24,690.3283298 --> 00:30:35,560.3283298
I decided to make it dopamine reset January because I was letting go of not only alcohol that month, but a variety of other things that I was doing that weren't helping me anymore.
387
00:30:35,560.3283298 --> 00:30:38,50.3283298
And actually parts of me were like, please give me a break.
388
00:30:38,440.3283298 --> 00:30:42,370.3283298
And the parts of me that were using those tools were like, we're really tired.
389
00:30:42,430.3283298 --> 00:30:43,240.3283298
This is a lot.
390
00:30:43,930.3283298 --> 00:30:49,0.3283298
And so I decided to make January all about letting go of those things.
391
00:30:49,330.3283298 --> 00:30:54,580.3283298
But as I sat with that, it felt wrong to make a month about going without.
392
00:30:55,735.3283298 --> 00:31:06,645.3283298
And I said, okay, well what do I wanna create in the space instead? And it it felt really clear to me that what I wanted was just authentic connection with anything that made me feel connected.
393
00:31:06,705.3283298 --> 00:31:09,75.3283298
And so that's what that month became about.
394
00:31:09,648.6616631 --> 00:31:12,18.6616631
It's where the name for this podcast comes from.
395
00:31:12,678.6616631 --> 00:31:20,328.6616631
Because authentic connection became such a, a beautiful access to sweetness.
396
00:31:20,418.6616631 --> 00:31:20,868.6616631
Yes.
397
00:31:21,248.6616631 --> 00:31:23,228.6616631
And it's so curious.
398
00:31:23,258.6616631 --> 00:31:26,408.6616631
I'm probably lost my train of thought, but it was so cool when it came forward.
399
00:31:27,488.6616631 --> 00:31:37,88.6616631
so when we're talking about your authentic or that like pushback of, I wasn't sure if it felt good to just cut this out altogether.
400
00:31:37,88.6616631 --> 00:31:43,58.6616631
Right? Well, part of I think what we talked about in your session, and if you're okay with me sharing, please.
401
00:31:43,298.6616631 --> 00:31:54,273.6616631
Was part of the earth element is ritual, intentional space of, okay, if we don't wanna get rid of it, what is the boundary I wanna have with it? Mm-hmm.
402
00:31:54,358.6616631 --> 00:32:19,508.6616631
But also, what is the relationship I wanna have with it? Because if we're talking safety, security, stability in that earth space, sometimes it's not about getting rid of something altogether because it freaks the system out, but it's how can we be more intentional with it? How can we create a ritual around it so that it doesn't feel like it's driving us, but we are sitting side by side with it as a tool.
403
00:32:19,718.6616631 --> 00:32:19,838.6616631
Mm-hmm.
404
00:32:20,78.6616631 --> 00:32:22,268.6616631
To get to the next space.
405
00:32:22,508.6616631 --> 00:32:24,578.6616631
Yes, exactly.
406
00:32:24,848.6616631 --> 00:32:42,68.6616631
That is a huge part of what you have brought into my life through talking about it, but also I've been watching you in the rituals that you do through the work that we do together, and as I've been experimenting and exploring and I'm bringing it back to you and talking to you about it.
407
00:32:42,773.6616631 --> 00:33:00,363.6616631
I have grown this whole collection of tools that are some based in awareness, right? I just have this inner compass and, oh, I love what you said, uh, like where my edges, right? I know where my edges are and when I've lost my edges.
408
00:33:00,363.6616631 --> 00:33:10,923.6616631
Now, because we've been at this for a while and that practice has really helped oh, in so many different ways, including like giving me a name for my podcast.
409
00:33:10,923.6616631 --> 00:33:12,303.6616631
My daughter hates the name by the way.
410
00:33:13,113.6616631 --> 00:33:14,13.6616631
She thinks it's awful.
411
00:33:14,253.6616631 --> 00:33:16,113.6616631
And I'm like, yeah, but it's got meaning.
412
00:33:16,113.6616631 --> 00:33:16,983.6616631
And she's like, I don't care.
413
00:33:16,983.6616631 --> 00:33:19,623.6616631
You need something catchy, but I'm gonna leave it for now.
414
00:33:19,653.6616631 --> 00:33:34,983.6616631
Hey, tranquility Rising came from me sitting on a beach with an ex being so mad at like the whole relationship and going, what am I doing? I have to find a name for this business that I'm literally going back to create my LLC for.
415
00:33:35,403.6616631 --> 00:33:38,433.6616631
And I was miserable and I saw the sun setting.
416
00:33:38,748.6616631 --> 00:33:48,228.6616631
And I just was like, you know what? I wanna rise tomorrow and just feel completely at ease, at peace, tranquility, and then like, it just hit.
417
00:33:48,618.6616631 --> 00:33:54,588.6616631
So like, it doesn't matter if people like it or not, as long as it like, makes us feel connected, that's all that matters.
418
00:33:54,588.6616631 --> 00:33:55,758.6616631
Exactly, exactly.
419
00:33:55,758.6616631 --> 00:33:57,588.6616631
You hear that My love, my little daughter.
420
00:34:00,23.1671478 --> 00:34:09,196.5004811
Anyway, speaking of one of the things that's been so incredible, with our work together as well is that you have welcomed in, my family through the work.
421
00:34:09,196.5004811 --> 00:34:12,586.5004811
So I've brought both of my daughters to you and my husband sees you as well.
422
00:34:12,586.5004811 --> 00:34:14,686.5004811
I asked his permission, he said I was okay to share that.
423
00:34:14,716.5004811 --> 00:34:14,746.5004811
Okay.
424
00:34:15,226.5004811 --> 00:34:22,396.5004811
And as a result, we now all have access to understanding our bodies better, our nervous systems.
425
00:34:22,786.5004811 --> 00:34:26,566.5004811
And it's been incredibly impactful as a parent.
426
00:34:26,626.5004811 --> 00:34:31,276.5004811
You tuned in very quickly with each of my children to their need for more.
427
00:34:31,616.5004811 --> 00:34:32,246.5004811
Structure.
428
00:34:32,246.5004811 --> 00:34:33,416.5004811
I think Structure, yes.
429
00:34:33,416.5004811 --> 00:34:35,186.5004811
Clarity around what to expect.
430
00:34:35,203.1671478 --> 00:34:39,523.1671478
We've implemented things in our lives as a result of the feedback that you've given.
431
00:34:39,823.1671478 --> 00:34:43,513.1671478
But you didn't just do it based on behavior, right? You read their bodies.
432
00:34:43,573.1671478 --> 00:34:43,693.1671478
Yeah.
433
00:34:43,693.1671478 --> 00:34:49,923.1671478
You used, um, their reaction to your services to give really helpful feedback and that was just so cool Yes.
434
00:34:49,953.1671478 --> 00:34:52,683.1671478
Because they were definitely two different kiddos For sure.
435
00:34:52,683.1671478 --> 00:34:52,713.1671478
Uhhuh.
436
00:34:53,73.1671478 --> 00:34:56,43.1671478
And yet at the core they required the same thing.
437
00:34:56,43.1671478 --> 00:34:58,863.1671478
So that was the surprising part, I think for you.
438
00:34:58,893.1671478 --> 00:34:59,73.1671478
Yes.
439
00:34:59,253.1671478 --> 00:35:03,123.1671478
That like, how are these two kiddos that are completely opposites yes.
440
00:35:03,423.1671478 --> 00:35:06,363.1671478
And yet at their core, they needed the same thing.
441
00:35:06,363.1671478 --> 00:35:06,963.1671478
Mm-hmm.
442
00:35:06,988.1671478 --> 00:35:12,633.1671478
And that was so enlightening and helpful, and you held that space to be able to meet us wherever we were.
443
00:35:12,633.1671478 --> 00:35:14,403.1671478
So families of all ages.
444
00:35:14,403.1671478 --> 00:35:18,223.1671478
I mean, it's pretty cool for us all to be able to come to the same space and just get what we need.
445
00:35:18,948.1671478 --> 00:35:27,978.1671478
And I will say like having the partner be able to come in regardless if they stay long term or just even just a touch point of a session or two.
446
00:35:28,8.1671478 --> 00:35:28,98.1671478
Mm-hmm.
447
00:35:28,488.1671478 --> 00:35:43,8.1671478
To be able to understand where the communication breakdown is of people's coping strategies, and then being able to see how their coping strategy is influencing your coping strategy.
448
00:35:43,8.1671478 --> 00:35:51,858.1671478
Because half the time, the balancing part of the elements, I only get to see one side and also how you're perceiving the situation.
449
00:35:51,858.1671478 --> 00:35:51,868.1671478
Mm-hmm.
450
00:35:52,278.1671478 --> 00:36:04,458.1671478
And so when we can like, peel back the layers and go, oh, I'm noticing that you're perceiving a situation this way and your partner's perceiving a situation this way, and you guys actually want the same thing.
451
00:36:04,518.1671478 --> 00:36:04,608.1671478
Mm-hmm.
452
00:36:05,418.1671478 --> 00:36:11,508.1671478
But your coping strategies are in conflict and so that's why there's no resolution in any of this.
453
00:36:11,883.1671478 --> 00:36:12,423.1671478
Yes.
454
00:36:12,783.1671478 --> 00:36:19,953.1671478
And the fun part for me, being a corrections officer, I have such a good ability to like put a brick wall between sessions.
455
00:36:20,283.1671478 --> 00:36:23,973.1671478
So like, you never know what's in your husband's session.
456
00:36:23,978.1671478 --> 00:36:24,48.1671478
Mm-hmm.
457
00:36:24,333.1671478 --> 00:36:26,103.1671478
And he never knows what's in your session.
458
00:36:26,103.1671478 --> 00:36:30,123.1671478
And you guys could be like completely opposite sides of the spectrum.
459
00:36:30,123.1671478 --> 00:36:31,413.1671478
And yet you guys have no clue.
460
00:36:31,533.1671478 --> 00:36:32,133.1671478
Yes.
461
00:36:32,133.1671478 --> 00:36:34,203.1671478
Unless we talk about it, which at home.
462
00:36:34,233.1671478 --> 00:36:34,683.1671478
Yes.
463
00:36:34,743.1671478 --> 00:36:42,363.1671478
And that's the beauty of me, because like, I'm never gonna go, well, well I don't know, your husband said this.
464
00:36:42,368.1671478 --> 00:36:42,488.1671478
Mm-hmm.
465
00:36:42,588.1671478 --> 00:36:42,808.1671478
Hmm.
466
00:36:42,888.1671478 --> 00:36:44,343.1671478
Like, that's not what we do.
467
00:36:44,343.1671478 --> 00:36:50,823.1671478
We just sit and go, oh, that's really curious why, why you're perceiving it that way.
468
00:36:50,823.1671478 --> 00:36:50,853.1671478
Mm.
469
00:36:51,183.1671478 --> 00:36:53,373.1671478
And I have the information on the other side.
470
00:36:53,373.1671478 --> 00:36:55,743.1671478
And so usually, again, three sides to a story.
471
00:36:55,743.1671478 --> 00:36:56,973.1671478
Right? Absolutely.
472
00:36:57,93.1671478 --> 00:36:57,543.1671478
Yeah.
473
00:36:57,573.1671478 --> 00:37:00,963.1671478
And so now we bring the elemental side into it to help bring the balance.
474
00:37:03,327.6726324 --> 00:37:08,907.6726324
Language has always been how I understand myself and the world around me and express.
475
00:37:09,267.6726324 --> 00:37:13,27.6726324
And I've been learning how to drop into my body more.
476
00:37:13,177.6726324 --> 00:37:17,47.6726324
And then I know for some of us, we are in our bodies.
477
00:37:17,317.6726324 --> 00:37:22,657.6726324
Some of us have an easier time using the body as an access point, I think is the best way to say it.
478
00:37:22,747.6726324 --> 00:37:33,667.6726324
And will it translate into language eventually? Maybe, maybe not, but in the meantime, the body knows, and I think this is a good opportunity for us to shift over to talking about the body and somatics.
479
00:37:34,57.6726324 --> 00:37:37,27.6726324
That word that gets used a lot, that buzzword.
480
00:37:37,121.0059658 --> 00:37:43,911.0059658
What do you wanna share about this? Yeah, so I will drop a book recommendation if people really wanna get a little bit more into this.
481
00:37:43,911.0059658 --> 00:37:45,231.0059658
The body holds the score.
482
00:37:45,291.0059658 --> 00:37:45,921.0059658
Keeps the score.
483
00:37:45,921.0059658 --> 00:37:46,461.0059658
Keeps the score.
484
00:37:46,461.0059658 --> 00:37:46,941.0059658
There we go.
485
00:37:46,941.0059658 --> 00:37:47,421.0059658
Thank you.
486
00:37:47,521.0059658 --> 00:37:48,411.0059658
Bessel van der Kolk.
487
00:37:48,661.0059658 --> 00:37:53,821.0059658
If you want a little deeper dive, then maybe what you're just gonna get on this podcast, that's a great start point.
488
00:37:53,822.0059658 --> 00:38:01,729.7464942
Um, so yeah, somatics, it can be such a fad word these days But for us, somatic just means of the body.
489
00:38:02,260.8484724 --> 00:38:06,640.8484724
It is the noticing of sensations rather than analyzing them.
490
00:38:06,940.8484724 --> 00:38:06,970.8484724
Mm.
491
00:38:07,210.8484724 --> 00:38:14,86.8484724
So I can give an example and hopefully my future husband doesn't get mad that I'm using this example, but I don't think he will.
492
00:38:14,146.8484724 --> 00:38:14,536.8484724
Okay, good.
493
00:38:15,196.8484724 --> 00:38:30,196.8484724
Um, so when I got proposed to my entire left shoulder locked up and I had extreme pain in my neck, this should have been like, the happiest time in my life.
494
00:38:30,196.8484724 --> 00:38:35,986.8484724
And I was happy, like I was over the moon, and yet my body was saying differently.
495
00:38:36,16.8484724 --> 00:38:36,226.8484724
Mm-hmm.
496
00:38:36,616.8484724 --> 00:38:41,506.8484724
So instead of just ignoring it and just going, oh, I must have tweaked something when I slept.
497
00:38:42,16.8484724 --> 00:38:55,576.8484724
I sat with it for a really long time and I was like, okay, I'm noticing that this is the gallbladder, which is sensations of feeling trapped, sensations of not being able to speak up.
498
00:38:56,116.8484724 --> 00:39:04,501.8484724
And so, okay, what is happening in my life? Well, you know, in the traditional sense, I just got proposed to, so like, am I getting trapped in this marriage? Right? Mm-hmm.
499
00:39:05,656.8484724 --> 00:39:13,126.8484724
But then I had to dive a little bit deeper and go, okay, well he's shown me that that's not what's gonna happen.
500
00:39:13,126.8484724 --> 00:39:14,746.8484724
Like we have a loving relationship.
501
00:39:14,746.8484724 --> 00:39:29,386.8484724
So what else is it? What else might it be? And I know it's like analyzing then, right? Like I'm saying somatic is in the body, so I'm sitting in the body and now I'm using my NARM approach for the analyzation purposes.
502
00:39:29,836.8484724 --> 00:39:31,936.8484724
And so I'm sitting here feeling it.
503
00:39:31,936.8484724 --> 00:39:33,616.8484724
I'm never going away from the feeling.
504
00:39:33,616.8484724 --> 00:39:34,966.8484724
I'm just using those touch points.
505
00:39:34,966.8484724 --> 00:39:37,6.8484724
Like, oh, okay, so engagement.
506
00:39:37,36.8484724 --> 00:39:38,476.8484724
Okay, let me feel the body.
507
00:39:38,476.8484724 --> 00:39:41,86.8484724
Let me see if something comes forward.
508
00:39:41,866.8484724 --> 00:39:44,596.8484724
Oh, you know, my parents were divorced.
509
00:39:44,626.8484724 --> 00:39:46,396.8484724
Okay, let me sit with that.
510
00:39:46,426.8484724 --> 00:39:48,376.8484724
Let me feel back into that shoulder pain.
511
00:39:49,576.8484724 --> 00:39:55,966.8484724
Oh, is this how my mom used Language of protection? Like, don't ever combine finances.
512
00:39:56,56.8484724 --> 00:39:59,146.8484724
Don't get trapped with a man that you know, you don't know about.
513
00:39:59,146.8484724 --> 00:40:03,286.8484724
Like all of this language that was used for protection.
514
00:40:03,286.8484724 --> 00:40:03,296.8484724
Mm-hmm.
515
00:40:03,616.8484724 --> 00:40:04,846.8484724
Was coming forward.
516
00:40:04,846.8484724 --> 00:40:15,106.8484724
And it's not negative, like I love my mom and I love the way that she raised me, but the physical body was holding onto that as a protection space.
517
00:40:15,346.8484724 --> 00:40:20,476.8484724
So once I was able to sit with it and kind of connect all the dots, it was crazy.
518
00:40:20,476.8484724 --> 00:40:36,346.8484724
I started coughing and hacking and just like almost as though like a purge of like, this no longer serves me and I'm going to get this out of my system so that I can be back in my full joy space of grounded present space.
519
00:40:36,376.8484724 --> 00:40:36,466.8484724
Yeah.
520
00:40:37,156.8484724 --> 00:40:39,136.8484724
And so that's the somatic piece.
521
00:40:39,136.8484724 --> 00:40:52,936.8484724
Like can I sit in the discomfort of what my body is doing and not just chalk it up to I slept wrong, but can I sit with the sensation? And even if you didn't know the meridian lines, like this is the beautiful part about somatics.
522
00:40:52,966.8484724 --> 00:40:56,996.8484724
Even if you didn't know the meridian system, I find it a little bit of a shortcut, which is great.
523
00:40:57,580.1818058 --> 00:41:09,250.1818058
But if you were to truly sit and feel the body and just allow the sensations to come forward, the goal is that I would've come to those conclusions eventually.
524
00:41:09,310.1818058 --> 00:41:11,470.1818058
It just might have taken a longer period.
525
00:41:11,890.1818058 --> 00:41:12,760.1818058
Absolutely.
526
00:41:12,850.1818058 --> 00:41:14,860.1818058
That was really powerful, what you just shared.
527
00:41:15,130.1818058 --> 00:41:30,142.8642829
And I'm noticing this warmth in my heart And I think it is, it is appreciation, gratitude because what you just shared is what you have taught me how to do.
528
00:41:31,282.8642829 --> 00:41:59,287.8642829
And even though I don't know all the meridians, I have some bits and pieces of information, what I do know is that my body will tell me the truth every time, and I know how to tune in now using both parts work through IFS and what you have taught me to be able to send a message to that ache in this one spot or that warmth in another that says, I hear you.
529
00:41:59,287.8642829 --> 00:41:59,827.8642829
I feel you.
530
00:41:59,827.8642829 --> 00:42:13,277.8642829
What do you want me to know? And just to stay open to whatever shows up next and allow me to trust the wisdom of my body, of my system to let me know the best way to navigate my life right now.
531
00:42:13,937.8642829 --> 00:42:16,337.8642829
Yeah, I can really tune in now because you taught me.
532
00:42:16,337.8642829 --> 00:42:19,667.8642829
And that's what, that's what that warmth in my heart is, so thank you.
533
00:42:19,667.8642829 --> 00:42:19,877.8642829
Yeah.
534
00:42:19,877.8642829 --> 00:42:21,17.8642829
You're so welcome.
535
00:42:21,107.8642829 --> 00:42:23,237.8642829
I, I just love this space.
536
00:42:23,237.8642829 --> 00:42:32,657.8642829
Like I don't, I don't know if I ever would've put all of these pieces together without the building blocks, and I say it all the time.
537
00:42:32,657.8642829 --> 00:42:38,642.8642829
I'm so grateful that I fell into learning Thai massage the way I did.
538
00:42:38,647.8642829 --> 00:42:38,917.8642829
Mm-hmm.
539
00:42:39,212.8642829 --> 00:42:52,652.8642829
Because I can tell you right now, if I would've maintained my corrections attitude and I would not have learned about the meridians in that training, because I have two different Thai trainings.
540
00:42:53,612.8642829 --> 00:42:58,82.8642829
The original one taught me about the meridians and the conversational piece.
541
00:42:58,87.8642829 --> 00:42:58,237.8642829
Mm-hmm.
542
00:42:58,417.8642829 --> 00:43:05,72.8642829
But if I would've trained through the Somo Veda College of Natural Medicine, that was my secondary training.
543
00:43:05,792.8642829 --> 00:43:08,72.8642829
They don't talk about any of it.
544
00:43:08,72.8642829 --> 00:43:11,282.8642829
And maybe they do eventually, but I only took their level one.
545
00:43:12,242.8642829 --> 00:43:15,452.8642829
And I can tell you right now, I would not be here where I am.
546
00:43:16,22.8642829 --> 00:43:16,142.8642829
Mm.
547
00:43:16,202.8642829 --> 00:43:20,942.8642829
Because it was the ability to understand the body at its core.
548
00:43:21,152.8642829 --> 00:43:21,242.8642829
Mm-hmm.
549
00:43:21,572.8642829 --> 00:43:31,172.8642829
That's why I had all of those like big breakdowns in India and like I even, I journaled every day I am leading a toxic life.
550
00:43:31,202.8642829 --> 00:43:31,232.8642829
Mm.
551
00:43:32,192.8642829 --> 00:43:35,372.8642829
And I didn't realize why my body hurt so bad.
552
00:43:35,372.8642829 --> 00:43:40,322.8642829
I chalked it up to the like 12 pound duty belt that I wore every day and the 16 hours on my feet.
553
00:43:41,102.8642829 --> 00:43:43,922.8642829
But in reality, it was so much deeper.
554
00:43:44,72.8642829 --> 00:43:44,912.8642829
Yes.
555
00:43:45,332.8642829 --> 00:43:45,812.8642829
Yeah.
556
00:43:48,195.0201312 --> 00:43:54,806.3035779
There was a, synchronicity that led you to where you needed to be that led you to here now.
557
00:43:54,806.3035779 --> 00:44:07,226.3035779
And, and I feel that as well running into you the way I first met you, the space in my life that I've opened up to allow me to consistently come and work with you, and do all the other things.
558
00:44:07,226.3035779 --> 00:44:14,836.3035779
Like we are creating a life that is guided by our nervous systems, by our bodies, by energy.
559
00:44:14,841.3035779 --> 00:44:15,131.3035779
Yeah.
560
00:44:16,426.3035779 --> 00:44:20,206.3035779
And it is during our time together that I have.
561
00:44:20,806.3035779 --> 00:44:27,826.3035779
I said in an earlier episode something about getting hip to universal energy, and I think you're one of the ways that I got hip to it.
562
00:44:28,166.3035779 --> 00:44:35,356.3035779
Because of the way that you you focus on, you know, the energy that our body is using to share with us, but also, you know, energy in other ways.
563
00:44:35,356.3035779 --> 00:44:41,656.3035779
Learning how to protect ourselves from influences that are toxic or that aren't well-meaning.
564
00:44:41,956.3035779 --> 00:44:44,56.3035779
That isn't something I knew how to do naturally.
565
00:44:44,56.3035779 --> 00:44:49,6.3035779
And in fact, I think I was a big sponge in life, in my work, in my home life.
566
00:44:49,6.3035779 --> 00:44:52,816.3035779
Like anything negative around me, I was soaking it right up.
567
00:44:52,816.3035779 --> 00:44:58,186.3035779
And, um, my family, we were just like magnifying it with one another.
568
00:44:58,186.3035779 --> 00:45:14,386.3035779
And so now I have practices that I've learned from you, that I've developed because of our work together that allow me to feel more like I have more control over how I feel in my body and, how I move through life because I have tools.
569
00:45:14,656.3035779 --> 00:45:14,836.3035779
Yeah.
570
00:45:15,406.3035779 --> 00:45:35,266.3035779
I always run across, and this might be a little off topic, but the clients who come in and they're just like, I'm an empath, and I really try to push back on them, like really, really try to push back on them and go, no, you're not an empath, you're just imbalanced.
571
00:45:35,296.3035779 --> 00:45:35,326.3035779
Mm.
572
00:45:35,836.3035779 --> 00:45:38,386.3035779
Like you have learned these coping skills.
573
00:45:38,391.3035779 --> 00:45:38,791.3035779
Mm-hmm.
574
00:45:38,871.3035779 --> 00:45:50,686.3035779
To pick up on everybody's energies, their little micro movements, whatever it is, because at a very young age you didn't have the ability to just be safe.
575
00:45:50,686.3035779 --> 00:45:50,696.3035779
Mm-hmm.
576
00:45:51,346.3035779 --> 00:46:00,496.3035779
And so can we stop wearing that with a badge of like courage or like an honor thing or like, this is such a gift.
577
00:46:00,736.3035779 --> 00:46:10,573.5779544
Like can we just call the BS flag on that a little bit and go like it protected you for a really long time and you're now in an adult space.
578
00:46:10,843.5779544 --> 00:46:11,503.5779544
So like.
579
00:46:12,43.5779544 --> 00:46:13,843.5779544
Let's give this proper boundaries.
580
00:46:13,843.5779544 --> 00:46:13,933.5779544
Mm-hmm.
581
00:46:14,173.5779544 --> 00:46:25,628.5779544
It's not saying that you can't understand others and be empathetic and like all of that, but like, why are we allowing all of this energy to be absorbed into us when we don't need to? Mm-hmm.
582
00:46:25,713.5779544 --> 00:46:27,853.5779544
Like I could go on a rant.
583
00:46:27,883.5779544 --> 00:46:28,633.5779544
I kind of did.
584
00:46:28,633.5779544 --> 00:46:28,693.5779544
Yeah.
585
00:46:28,723.5779544 --> 00:46:38,803.5779544
But that it is a struggle for me to like just sit there and allow someone to almost sit in a victim hood of like, I'm just an empath.
586
00:46:38,863.5779544 --> 00:46:40,3.5779544
Like I can't help it.
587
00:46:40,93.5779544 --> 00:46:40,453.5779544
Mm-hmm.
588
00:46:40,903.5779544 --> 00:46:48,513.5779544
And it's like with these tools of awareness, we can actually get you into a state where like, you don't have to be.
589
00:46:48,913.5779544 --> 00:46:49,573.5779544
Yeah.
590
00:46:49,633.5779544 --> 00:46:49,933.5779544
Yeah.
591
00:46:49,933.5779544 --> 00:46:55,993.5779544
And I think in the past I probably would've I would have fit perfectly into that category.
592
00:46:55,993.5779544 --> 00:47:05,803.5779544
I think by the time I got to see you, I had figured out how to create healthy boundaries for my work life that served me, that served my clients.
593
00:47:06,748.5779544 --> 00:47:07,888.5779544
Definitely not in my home life.
594
00:47:08,8.5779544 --> 00:47:08,248.5779544
Yeah.
595
00:47:08,578.5779544 --> 00:47:12,688.5779544
I think that's why I got, uh, pinged a little bit to just speak, speak into that space.
596
00:47:12,688.5779544 --> 00:47:12,748.5779544
Yeah.
597
00:47:12,748.5779544 --> 00:47:19,528.5779544
Because I'm sure other people are experiencing very similar issues, and I find myself in that state a lot.
598
00:47:19,588.5779544 --> 00:47:19,678.5779544
Mm-hmm.
599
00:47:19,918.5779544 --> 00:47:26,178.5779544
Like I see it, but the option is how are we responding to it? Yeah.
600
00:47:26,208.5779544 --> 00:47:32,303.5779544
So part of that earth element is are we in a reactive state or a grounded state? Mm-hmm.
601
00:47:32,383.5779544 --> 00:47:38,628.5779544
And so a reactive state is, again, going above and beyond trying to fix things that aren't necessarily ours to fix.
602
00:47:39,18.5779544 --> 00:47:46,938.5779544
And having a husband with a high conflict parent and all of that, that encompasses it.
603
00:47:46,938.5779544 --> 00:47:51,708.5779544
Like, it's really hard to not just fall into old habits.
604
00:47:52,8.5779544 --> 00:47:55,248.5779544
Whose husband has a high conflict parent? No, my husband.
605
00:47:55,608.5779544 --> 00:47:56,118.5779544
Oh, okay.
606
00:47:56,118.5779544 --> 00:47:56,808.5779544
A high conflict parent.
607
00:47:58,593.5779544 --> 00:47:59,928.5779544
Wait, I wanna follow you.
608
00:48:01,98.5779544 --> 00:48:01,338.5779544
No, I know.
609
00:48:01,338.5779544 --> 00:48:02,718.5779544
It's, it's a weird new language.
610
00:48:02,718.5779544 --> 00:48:06,438.5779544
Like, we just got married, so I struggle back and forth.
611
00:48:06,438.5779544 --> 00:48:09,888.5779544
Like, wait, what do I call him? Yes, totally.
612
00:48:10,388.5779544 --> 00:48:19,38.5779544
I do have that same issue, like I had a high conflict parent myself, my father, and then, you know, you develop those skills mm-hmm.
613
00:48:19,278.5779544 --> 00:48:22,38.5779544
Of unquote empathic skills mm-hmm.
614
00:48:22,338.5779544 --> 00:48:23,568.5779544
To keep yourself safe.
615
00:48:23,568.5779544 --> 00:48:34,98.5779544
But then like that disrupts the nervous system so much, especially as you get older and older, because then you're all of a sudden exposed to way more chaos and you're like, wait a second, I need to fix all of this.
616
00:48:34,98.5779544 --> 00:48:36,48.5779544
Or I am not safe.
617
00:48:36,78.5779544 --> 00:48:36,168.5779544
Mm-hmm.
618
00:48:36,468.5779544 --> 00:48:42,108.5779544
And so just reprogramming that, but through the five elements of like, okay, I can be grounded.
619
00:48:42,108.5779544 --> 00:48:48,108.5779544
What are my needs? What are my boundaries? How am I emotionally feeling with second chakra? And so on and so forth.
620
00:48:48,198.5779544 --> 00:48:48,438.5779544
Yes.
621
00:48:48,588.5779544 --> 00:49:00,498.5779544
So the empathic side of this is truly like, can we see it as an imbalance versus a state of being? Yes.
622
00:49:01,98.5779544 --> 00:49:01,698.5779544
Yes.
623
00:49:01,758.5779544 --> 00:49:07,938.5779544
I'm thinking about I'm thinking about when you have told me that I had too many logs on my fire.
624
00:49:07,998.5779544 --> 00:49:08,148.5779544
Mm-hmm.
625
00:49:08,388.5779544 --> 00:49:08,398.5779544
Yeah.
626
00:49:08,398.5779544 --> 00:49:11,838.5779544
And as a result of too many logs on my fire, my fire was low.
627
00:49:11,898.5779544 --> 00:49:12,468.5779544
Yes.
628
00:49:12,618.5779544 --> 00:49:14,28.5779544
There wasn't enough air.
629
00:49:14,328.5779544 --> 00:49:14,658.5779544
Yeah.
630
00:49:15,198.5779544 --> 00:49:20,748.5779544
So that was, that's that imbalance of the air element of like, let me take on more.
631
00:49:20,748.5779544 --> 00:49:24,768.5779544
Let me people, please let me, like, let others be codependent on me.
632
00:49:24,768.5779544 --> 00:49:30,618.5779544
Let me keep putting more things on my fire, which then burns us out.
633
00:49:32,148.5779544 --> 00:49:38,58.5779544
And we have to figure out, this is one of the questions with the air element is the discernment of what to keep and what to let go.
634
00:49:39,288.5779544 --> 00:49:41,238.5779544
Yes, yes.
635
00:49:42,348.5779544 --> 00:49:58,548.5779544
These kinds of metaphors have been like these snack size gems that I can just carry with me and revisit in my daily life when I'm noticing, oh look, I just put another log on my fire.
636
00:49:58,938.5779544 --> 00:50:14,868.5779544
Is something else gonna go? Or do I really need to sit with how right does this feel? Okay, this is a tangent, but I'm thinking back to the fact that it was, it was during our work together that the question was posed to me by Jen Schneeman, our friend, who is also gonna come on.
637
00:50:15,318.5779544 --> 00:50:15,528.5779544
Amazing.
638
00:50:15,528.5779544 --> 00:50:15,798.5779544
Yes.
639
00:50:15,798.5779544 --> 00:50:16,638.5779544
I'm very excited.
640
00:50:16,638.5779544 --> 00:50:19,8.5779544
talk about nervous systems and a whole lot of different things.
641
00:50:19,278.5779544 --> 00:50:26,358.5779544
She was the one who posed me the question of whose throat block is it? Because I could feel a yes very clearly in my body and a no.
642
00:50:26,923.5779544 --> 00:50:32,113.5779544
When I asked my body to show me what a no feels like, I felt this block in my throat, this tightening up.
643
00:50:32,173.5779544 --> 00:50:34,693.5779544
I've never been able to wear a turtleneck in my life.
644
00:50:34,693.5779544 --> 00:50:37,993.5779544
I can't wear chokers like that has been there my whole life.
645
00:50:37,993.5779544 --> 00:50:40,393.5779544
But that's not what a no is supposed to feel like.
646
00:50:40,393.5779544 --> 00:50:54,242.0241008
And so I brought that to you and you helped me work through, well work on the energy, moving the energy physically through my body, but also sitting with Okay, my ability to express myself is blocked in some way.
647
00:50:54,242.0241008 --> 00:50:57,302.0241008
What do I wanna do with that? And how do we work through it? Yeah.
648
00:50:57,392.0241008 --> 00:51:01,172.0241008
And based on like what we just were talking about, that air element.
649
00:51:01,502.0241008 --> 00:51:09,332.0241008
So when we have too much of an air element that people pleasing, it overly controls the space element of the voice.
650
00:51:09,992.0241008 --> 00:51:10,52.0241008
Mm.
651
00:51:10,232.0241008 --> 00:51:18,512.0241008
And so again, if we go above and beyond, we are neglecting our own personal needs and self.
652
00:51:18,572.0241008 --> 00:51:20,72.0241008
And so no wonder we can't speak up.
653
00:51:20,852.0241008 --> 00:51:21,62.0241008
Yeah.
654
00:51:21,947.0241008 --> 00:51:22,367.0241008
Yes.
655
00:51:22,367.0241008 --> 00:51:37,487.0241008
That feels so validating in my body right now because I did that for a long time and I have, you helped bring it to my attention in a way that I could start working on it not just in my daily life, but also in my body.
656
00:51:37,492.0241008 --> 00:51:37,612.0241008
Yeah.
657
00:51:37,877.0241008 --> 00:51:48,77.0241008
And I should say that that pain that I carried around in my lower left, back into my leg for years and years and years, just recently, I said to, you know what? I noticed it's not there anymore.
658
00:51:48,857.0241008 --> 00:52:02,597.0241008
Yes, other things come up, but nothing is sticking in my body and just solidifying into a long term chronic issue anymore because, uh, my body and my parts all know that like I'm listening, I'm paying attention.
659
00:52:03,47.0241008 --> 00:52:12,917.0241008
Sometimes I get a little hyper-focused, but I think I've gotten to a space where like, like I had this ache in the back of my arm the other day when something happened and I just put my hand on it and I said, yeah, I get it.
660
00:52:13,277.0241008 --> 00:52:18,107.0241008
I, I don't know what you're trying to tell me, but I know what just happened and that feels connected.
661
00:52:18,287.0241008 --> 00:52:19,487.0241008
And then it just went right away.
662
00:52:19,607.0241008 --> 00:52:19,757.0241008
Yeah.
663
00:52:19,817.0241008 --> 00:52:19,877.0241008
Yeah.
664
00:52:22,774.8629188 --> 00:52:26,448.1962521
So if we wanna talk a little bit about the chronic injury space.
665
00:52:26,478.1962521 --> 00:52:26,628.1962521
Mm-hmm.
666
00:52:26,958.1962521 --> 00:52:39,88.1962521
What I believe, and this is just what I've seen over the last eight years, I try to just speak from experience versus like, did someone teach me this? Because half the time things come to me through other channels.
667
00:52:39,88.1962521 --> 00:52:39,338.1962521
Mm-hmm.
668
00:52:39,678.1962521 --> 00:53:07,788.1962521
But what I have seen in my years of work is that when the body is trying to tell us things all the time, and so if we ignore the problem, the emotional problem, it creates stagnation in the meridian lines, which then if stagnation builds up, it creates a weak point, which then if we ignore that little tweak, it then becomes bigger of a tweak.
669
00:53:07,848.1962521 --> 00:53:11,508.1962521
And then it possibly comes into like an injury, injury space.
670
00:53:11,508.1962521 --> 00:53:11,518.1962521
Mm-hmm.
671
00:53:11,868.1962521 --> 00:53:15,378.1962521
And that could be like a physical, like break.
672
00:53:15,753.1962521 --> 00:53:25,853.1962521
Like I can tell you right now, I was in not a great relationship emotionally a few years back and I got a hamstring injury that still aggravates today.
673
00:53:26,363.1962521 --> 00:53:28,793.1962521
And mostly 'cause I don't think I did any physical therapy for it.
674
00:53:28,853.1962521 --> 00:53:41,273.1962521
But, um, so there's the physical component of like, yes, our bodies do have limitations, but I do truly believe it became weak because that is the bladder meridian and my emotional needs were not being met.
675
00:53:42,353.1962521 --> 00:53:45,203.1962521
And that was a chronic five year issue.
676
00:53:45,413.1962521 --> 00:53:45,503.1962521
Mm-hmm.
677
00:53:45,743.1962521 --> 00:53:48,653.1962521
And that's what created the like hardcore weakness in that spot.
678
00:53:48,803.1962521 --> 00:53:52,673.1962521
So other people will experience like low back pain, which is also bladder.
679
00:53:52,673.1962521 --> 00:53:59,453.1962521
So again, we look at these big chronic pain points and we give them a voice.
680
00:53:59,873.1962521 --> 00:54:11,783.1962521
And when we give them a voice, we are hoping and praying that the body has enough resilience and vitality to give us back the strength to heal those spaces.
681
00:54:12,38.1962521 --> 00:54:13,958.1962521
Before it's irreversible.
682
00:54:13,958.1962521 --> 00:54:14,48.1962521
Mm-hmm.
683
00:54:14,78.1962521 --> 00:54:17,528.1962521
Because now it's become like a legitimate physical issue that needed surgery.
684
00:54:17,588.1962521 --> 00:54:18,98.1962521
Mm-hmm.
685
00:54:18,608.1962521 --> 00:54:25,238.1962521
Or because Western medicine teaches us that, you know, there's a quick fix to this.
686
00:54:25,238.1962521 --> 00:54:26,438.1962521
Let's just do this.
687
00:54:26,468.1962521 --> 00:54:30,308.1962521
Versus like, you've been with me for a year, two years now.
688
00:54:30,308.1962521 --> 00:54:30,398.1962521
Mm-hmm.
689
00:54:30,758.1962521 --> 00:54:31,238.1962521
Right.
690
00:54:31,598.1962521 --> 00:54:43,148.1962521
Other people have been with me for eight years, and so we see these slow, monotonous progresses, but at the end of the day, we didn't need Western intervention.
691
00:54:43,418.1962521 --> 00:54:43,508.1962521
Mm-hmm.
692
00:54:43,748.1962521 --> 00:54:59,648.1962521
And so I'm not saying that there's not a place for Western intervention because there is, but are we able to stay in the present moment to really focus in and acknowledge and give the body a voice so that it can heal? Yes.
693
00:55:00,338.1962521 --> 00:55:03,518.1962521
The answer is yes, because that's what I've been doing.
694
00:55:03,788.1962521 --> 00:55:06,38.1962521
That's what you've been doing with me and for me.
695
00:55:06,38.1962521 --> 00:55:12,848.1962521
And I think what you're saying is probably giving hope to some people who feel like they've tried everything.
696
00:55:12,938.1962521 --> 00:55:18,998.1962521
They've tried everything else, western medicine has told them nothing's wrong or you need surgery.
697
00:55:18,998.1962521 --> 00:55:20,648.1962521
And then there's nothing holistic.
698
00:55:20,648.1962521 --> 00:55:24,498.1962521
There's nothing helping them get at the ways that their life is feeling imbalanced.
699
00:55:24,518.1962521 --> 00:55:30,578.1962521
They don't have the sweetness or too much sweetness or their body is speaking to them all the time and they don't speak the language.
700
00:55:30,578.1962521 --> 00:55:30,638.1962521
Yeah.
701
00:55:31,178.1962521 --> 00:55:48,18.1962521
And that is a big part of why I wanted to have this conversation with you and to be able to share it so openly because I feel like the gift that our work together has given me is awareness of this whole world that has made me feel more whole, More balanced for sure.
702
00:55:48,48.1962521 --> 00:55:52,938.1962521
And more aware that when I get off balance I know what to do and I know who to come to for help.
703
00:55:54,618.1962521 --> 00:55:55,713.1962521
I had a I appreciate that.
704
00:55:56,298.1962521 --> 00:55:57,18.1962521
I do too.
705
00:55:57,18.1962521 --> 00:56:04,188.1962521
I had a, um, I had a session with you not too long ago where it felt like everything you did was just grounding me.
706
00:56:04,558.1962521 --> 00:56:09,843.1962521
Just over and over this flow through my body of, ugh, everything's gonna be okay, everything's gonna be okay.
707
00:56:09,843.1962521 --> 00:56:11,373.1962521
And that's just such a nice feeling.
708
00:56:11,883.1962521 --> 00:56:28,863.1962521
it is really nice to have all of these touch points for clients, because what you said before is like when people feel helpless, Western medicine is not telling them things or they've invested so much in holistic practices because it is expensive to go the holistic route.
709
00:56:29,383.1962521 --> 00:56:36,403.1962521
And so our goal at the studio is always to give you as much information as possible so you can make the most informed decision as possible.
710
00:56:36,403.1962521 --> 00:56:44,783.1962521
Because we know that we are just one part of the journey, but it is so, and this might be a little bit of an ego thing for me.
711
00:56:45,373.1962521 --> 00:56:45,873.1962521
Do it.
712
00:56:46,423.1962521 --> 00:56:46,933.1962521
Do it.
713
00:56:46,933.1962521 --> 00:56:56,363.1962521
But it is so fulfilling to have the touchpoints on the physical body and go, you know, I'm not sure what's going on with your liver.
714
00:56:57,238.1962521 --> 00:57:07,588.1962521
But I'm noticing that it's a little inflamed and maybe the client is not willing to talk about the emotions of the liver, which is problematic, but also like this is inflamed.
715
00:57:07,588.1962521 --> 00:57:12,838.1962521
This is an actual physical issue in the body, which then has to be addressed Western side.
716
00:57:12,838.1962521 --> 00:57:13,168.1962521
Mm-hmm.
717
00:57:13,588.1962521 --> 00:57:19,588.1962521
So what if she been able to address it on the holistic side? If she would've tapped into the emotions of the liver? Maybe.
718
00:57:19,588.1962521 --> 00:57:26,578.1962521
I can't speak for that, but I can speak for, I told her to go get her labs done and she came back with fatty liver.
719
00:57:27,238.1962521 --> 00:57:27,988.1962521
Oh wow.
720
00:57:28,198.1962521 --> 00:57:34,528.1962521
So like, I can't diagnose, but I can push clients to go, Hey, something's not right here.
721
00:57:34,648.1962521 --> 00:57:34,738.1962521
Mm-hmm.
722
00:57:35,248.1962521 --> 00:57:39,568.1962521
If you're not gonna take it on my side, I am fully fine with that.
723
00:57:39,568.1962521 --> 00:57:44,488.1962521
But can you please just go check it so that like we can rule anything out.
724
00:57:44,488.1962521 --> 00:57:45,238.1962521
Mm-hmm.
725
00:57:45,244.1962521 --> 00:57:52,798.1962521
And like we also do womb work at the studio and you know, trying to figure out like what's going on and going, hey.
726
00:57:53,473.1962521 --> 00:57:56,53.1962521
Month after month, the same issue is coming up.
727
00:57:56,173.1962521 --> 00:57:57,133.1962521
I don't know what's wrong.
728
00:57:57,163.1962521 --> 00:57:59,23.1962521
Have you gone to the doctor? Yeah.
729
00:57:59,623.1962521 --> 00:58:06,133.1962521
And I will tell you, I got so mad when this client finally got answers from the Western side.
730
00:58:06,133.1962521 --> 00:58:10,273.1962521
It was like a year of like back and forth and back and forth of Western care.
731
00:58:10,963.1962521 --> 00:58:18,163.1962521
And we had, I can't say I diagnosed, but I had noticed an issue a year ago and it turned out to be a tumor.
732
00:58:18,735.5046421 --> 00:58:22,695.5046421
This is why we have to be such an advocate for our own system.
733
00:58:22,755.5046421 --> 00:58:23,205.5046421
Yes.
734
00:58:23,805.5046421 --> 00:58:29,775.5046421
And so whether we address it on the emotional side, because the womb is so powerful for women, we hold the emotions there.
735
00:58:29,775.5046421 --> 00:58:35,175.5046421
So if we're not processing them, I do think disease can create that space.
736
00:58:35,925.5046421 --> 00:58:46,275.5046421
But also like why is western medicine not checking these things? Right? Like, why are they not believing our system? And so when we tap into the somatic side of like.
737
00:58:46,605.5046421 --> 00:58:57,15.5046421
I'm understanding how my body should feel, which is also why the reset protocol is really powerful, because we reset it to go, oh, this is how it's supposed to feel.
738
00:58:57,15.5046421 --> 00:58:57,315.5046421
Mm-hmm.
739
00:58:57,795.5046421 --> 00:59:15,645.5046421
Then we can be bigger advocates for ourselves everywhere in our life, whether it's relationships or our western medicine or our holistic doctors, whoever it is, they lose the ability to kind of gaslight you and you lose the ability to gaslight yourself honestly.
740
00:59:15,855.5046421 --> 00:59:16,815.5046421
So true.
741
00:59:16,875.5046421 --> 00:59:23,318.8379755
Because you have a, touch point a foundation of, oh, this is what it's supposed to feel like.
742
00:59:23,348.8379755 --> 00:59:28,418.8379755
Okay, now I have something to compare it to, and yeah, you definitely gave me a voice.
743
00:59:28,418.8379755 --> 00:59:29,948.8379755
You gave my body a voice.
744
00:59:30,248.8379755 --> 00:59:37,388.8379755
You gave me more balance, and I can hear that that's what you do for a lot of people because you are just so tuned into the body.
745
00:59:37,418.8379755 --> 00:59:41,828.8379755
So I'll come in at the beginning of a session, you'll be like, what's going on? And I'll just talk, talk, talk, and you're like, okay.
746
00:59:42,338.8379755 --> 00:59:43,28.8379755
Get back to the body.
747
00:59:43,688.8379755 --> 00:59:48,278.8379755
What's your body telling you? And it doesn't really matter because you're like, it's gonna tell me on the mat anyway.
748
00:59:48,278.8379755 --> 00:59:48,338.8379755
Yeah.
749
00:59:48,338.8379755 --> 00:59:49,178.8379755
But just gimme an idea.
750
00:59:49,178.8379755 --> 00:59:51,668.8379755
Are we starting setting up, laying down what's going on? Yeah.
751
00:59:52,28.8379755 --> 01:00:00,398.8379755
But we figure out through what has been happening lately, where you need to go, and any feedback you've given me along the way.
752
01:00:00,758.8379755 --> 01:00:01,238.8379755
I don't know.
753
01:00:01,238.8379755 --> 01:00:04,298.8379755
I just, it feels like such a safe, trusting space.
754
01:00:04,298.8379755 --> 01:00:11,828.8379755
So the womb work that you did with me, I'm remembering it was deeply impactful and I didn't know that was a thing before I came to see you.
755
01:00:11,828.8379755 --> 01:00:19,958.8379755
But now it's something that I consider a part of me that has a voice just like the rest of me, but hadn't had a voice for a long time.
756
01:00:20,408.8379755 --> 01:00:21,518.8379755
So I don't know.
757
01:00:21,518.8379755 --> 01:00:22,928.8379755
There's, there's just so much.
758
01:00:22,928.8379755 --> 01:00:26,438.8379755
But I know we're probably at a point where it's time to start winding down.
759
01:00:26,528.8379755 --> 01:00:29,648.8379755
And I'm sorry to say that because I could talk to you all day.
760
01:00:30,188.8379755 --> 01:00:31,808.8379755
I was like, I'm fine for a few more minutes.
761
01:00:31,808.8379755 --> 01:00:32,378.8379755
We got time.
762
01:00:32,383.8379755 --> 01:00:32,584.0244184
Okay.
763
01:00:34,861.0033449 --> 01:00:38,251.0033449
So let's talk a little bit about spirituality.
764
01:00:39,211.0033449 --> 01:00:44,701.0033449
I'm thinking about what it was like the first time I laid on the mat.
765
01:00:44,941.0033449 --> 01:00:59,388.4292754
You put your hand over my abdomen and you welcomed in supports and you made it clear that any, anything that did not feel supportive wasn't welcome.
766
01:01:00,468.4292754 --> 01:01:01,758.4292754
That impacted me.
767
01:01:01,878.4292754 --> 01:01:04,848.4292754
It was the first time I'd ever heard anything like that.
768
01:01:05,238.4292754 --> 01:01:06,828.4292754
And I was curious.
769
01:01:07,98.4292754 --> 01:01:10,833.4292754
Can you say a little bit about that and why you do that and what mm-hmm.
770
01:01:10,953.4292754 --> 01:01:12,618.4292754
Where that comes from? Yeah.
771
01:01:12,708.4292754 --> 01:01:19,588.4292754
So when I was first doing my training we call it puja, which is just a prayer space.
772
01:01:20,48.4292754 --> 01:01:25,868.4292754
My first training, they did not teach me how to protect my energy when working on clients.
773
01:01:25,868.4292754 --> 01:01:31,568.4292754
So this is why it's so important to like, have a, you know, multiple trainings because everybody's teaching you something a little bit different.
774
01:01:32,93.4292754 --> 01:01:40,343.4292754
My secondary training, they taught us puja, but only in the sensation of, think of something nice for your client.
775
01:01:40,973.4292754 --> 01:01:40,983.4292754
Mm-hmm.
776
01:01:42,353.4292754 --> 01:01:51,233.4292754
And that felt fine and good and weird and just, I don't know, ironic, like why wouldn't I want something good for my client, but Sure.
777
01:01:51,413.4292754 --> 01:01:51,563.4292754
Mm-hmm.
778
01:01:52,43.4292754 --> 01:02:10,433.4292754
And when I started diving deeper into the client work, seeing people more on a regular basis, I was still working with Aveda practitioner myself, and I went to her one day and I just said, you know, my wrists are killing me.
779
01:02:10,553.4292754 --> 01:02:11,873.4292754
I just quit my job.
780
01:02:11,873.4292754 --> 01:02:27,503.4292754
Like, did I make the worst decision of my life? And she told me, she's like, well, are you trying to hold the success of your clients in your own hands? And that statement has literally stayed with me my entire practice now.
781
01:02:28,373.4292754 --> 01:02:30,893.4292754
And so puja for us.
782
01:02:30,908.4292754 --> 01:02:43,118.4292754
S at the studio has really shifted into more of a healthy boundary space, a way to connect intuitively to the body.
783
01:02:43,988.4292754 --> 01:02:49,178.4292754
And so what that looks like, and I, I'll just do my language maybe of like how I open a session.
784
01:02:49,208.4292754 --> 01:02:49,418.4292754
Yeah.
785
01:02:49,808.4292754 --> 01:02:53,408.4292754
And so I place my hand on a client's abdomen.
786
01:02:53,438.4292754 --> 01:02:55,988.4292754
If they are female, I sit on their left side.
787
01:02:55,988.4292754 --> 01:02:58,538.4292754
If they're ma male, I sit on their right side.
788
01:02:58,538.4292754 --> 01:03:00,158.4292754
That's feminine versus masculine.
789
01:03:00,758.4292754 --> 01:03:04,988.4292754
And the first touch point, honestly, is to just check their breath space.
790
01:03:05,228.4292754 --> 01:03:12,128.4292754
Like is it ragged, is it short? Is it coming to the belly? Like what's just in a quick initial touch point.
791
01:03:12,878.4292754 --> 01:03:24,978.4292754
And then I kind of close in and the language that we like to use, and Casey, my secondary use is a little bit different, but same, same, it goes allow yourself to feel the breath.
792
01:03:25,803.4292754 --> 01:03:45,363.4292754
And imagine a golden light that comes all the way around you, above and below, and allow this light to continue to expand into the entire space that we're sharing with each and every exhale, clearing anything that's been attached to you that is not meant for you.
793
01:03:46,503.4292754 --> 01:03:52,653.4292754
And then at this point, everybody has a different religion or a different belief system.
794
01:03:53,73.4292754 --> 01:03:56,133.4292754
And so usually I ask permission from the client.
795
01:03:56,133.4292754 --> 01:04:06,963.4292754
So it would just sound like, Rachel, do you allow me to call in your guides today? And depending on the client, I do have to specify because some clients are very religious, which is perfectly fine.
796
01:04:06,963.4292754 --> 01:04:09,393.4292754
We accept anybody who comes into this space.
797
01:04:09,933.4292754 --> 01:04:11,583.4292754
And sometimes they'll go, no.
798
01:04:12,243.4292754 --> 01:04:21,513.4292754
And I'm like, okay, well is there, um, any specific religious space that I can call upon you? Because whether it's Christianity or anybody else.
799
01:04:22,308.4292754 --> 01:04:24,258.4292754
They do have their own guides.
800
01:04:24,258.4292754 --> 01:04:29,778.4292754
And I think when we use that language, it freaks people out who are more in a rigid structure.
801
01:04:30,528.4292754 --> 01:04:35,988.4292754
And so whoever they allow me to call in, um, I call them in.
802
01:04:35,988.4292754 --> 01:04:38,778.4292754
So for Rachel, she's open to pretty much anything and everything.
803
01:04:39,108.4292754 --> 01:04:40,968.4292754
So what that's, and most clients are.
804
01:04:40,968.4292754 --> 01:04:52,188.4292754
But, um, so what that sounds like is I call upon Rachel's ancestors, her spirit guides, her spirit animals, and any other being willing to come into this space with love and kindness.
805
01:04:52,308.4292754 --> 01:05:02,428.4292754
And we recognize that there are certain beings here that might not have those intentions, and we just ask them to go back to where they came from or a better place than here.
806
01:05:03,328.4292754 --> 01:05:09,118.4292754
Um, because honestly, if they came from a bad place, I don't really wanna send them back there, but I just don't want them hanging out with us.
807
01:05:09,148.4292754 --> 01:05:09,298.4292754
Yeah.
808
01:05:10,18.4292754 --> 01:05:14,878.4292754
And then once we call in hers, I'm also doing this on my side.
809
01:05:14,878.4292754 --> 01:05:17,728.4292754
So like she has this golden ring around her.
810
01:05:17,818.4292754 --> 01:05:19,888.4292754
I've already had this goal to ring around myself.
811
01:05:20,323.4292754 --> 01:05:34,303.4292754
And then I call in my ancestors, my guides, and also the lineage of this practice that I'm about to present, so that it hopefully opens up a pathway for me to receive information that maybe I haven't even been taught.
812
01:05:35,713.4292754 --> 01:05:39,883.4292754
And so sometimes I pull techniques out of nowhere and I'm like, I have, I, I didn't learn that.
813
01:05:39,883.4292754 --> 01:05:40,693.4292754
I don't know where that came from.
814
01:05:40,693.4292754 --> 01:05:40,813.4292754
Yes.
815
01:05:40,873.4292754 --> 01:05:47,803.4292754
But, um, it's just the intuition of like having that support system and the goal of the puja.
816
01:05:47,803.4292754 --> 01:05:50,653.4292754
This might have gone a lot longer than it was supposed to be, but No, that's great.
817
01:05:50,653.4292754 --> 01:05:57,673.4292754
The goal of the puja is to ensure that there's not an enmeshment of practitioner and client.
818
01:05:58,153.4292754 --> 01:06:00,493.4292754
And so Rachel's in her own bubble.
819
01:06:00,493.4292754 --> 01:06:01,963.4292754
I'm in my own bubble.
820
01:06:01,963.4292754 --> 01:06:05,983.4292754
And then I like to sometimes imagine like one big bubble all the way around us.
821
01:06:05,983.4292754 --> 01:06:06,73.4292754
Mm-hmm.
822
01:06:06,343.4292754 --> 01:06:11,623.4292754
So that we can have a little bit of connectedness, but like we're not having an enmeshment.
823
01:06:11,623.4292754 --> 01:06:11,683.4292754
Yeah.
824
01:06:12,913.4292754 --> 01:06:18,313.4292754
And over the years, as I have tuned into more and more clients.
825
01:06:19,33.4292754 --> 01:06:31,63.4292754
For me, it can be a little frustrating, um, because sometimes I physically feel the sensations in my own system before a client will say something to me.
826
01:06:31,63.4292754 --> 01:07:00,433.4292754
So if I'm working on one part of the body and then I get all of a sudden a ping or like a stabbing pain in my own shoulder or head, I can go, Hey, have you been experiencing headaches this week? Or like, is that something that you experience on a normal basis? And so that's kind of where the spiritual side comes into it because there is this connectedness that I didn't want to enter when I first started this practice.
827
01:07:00,523.4292754 --> 01:07:06,43.4292754
No one taught me how to do it safely and no one taught me really what it was.
828
01:07:06,793.4292754 --> 01:07:11,143.4292754
And I can thank Casey my secondary for this point of view.
829
01:07:11,713.4292754 --> 01:07:12,913.4292754
She said that she.
830
01:07:13,363.4292754 --> 01:07:25,933.4292754
She said, you know, I'm really thankful that you taught me the way that you taught me because it has helped me move through my own practice so much more efficiently or quickly, or however she stated it.
831
01:07:26,743.4292754 --> 01:07:31,663.4292754
And it really had to, I had to take a step back and go, ah, she is so right.
832
01:07:31,663.4292754 --> 01:07:35,923.4292754
Like I took eight years of trainings and I know Rachel has the list.
833
01:07:35,923.4292754 --> 01:07:37,333.4292754
It's very extensive.
834
01:07:38,83.4292754 --> 01:07:49,933.4292754
And I gave her a little bit from each of those trainings to give her everything that she would've needed to know that I was craving to know, and that I'm still kind of navigating through.
835
01:07:50,263.4292754 --> 01:07:50,923.4292754
Yeah.
836
01:07:51,13.4292754 --> 01:08:03,43.4292754
And so the spiritual side of that is like trusting the intuition, receiving the like authenticity of like, I'm such a right brain person.
837
01:08:03,43.4292754 --> 01:08:05,143.4292754
I doubt everything in the spiritual realm.
838
01:08:05,143.4292754 --> 01:08:09,703.4292754
Like it doesn't make sense for me, and yet I'm still trying to stay open.
839
01:08:11,743.4292754 --> 01:08:12,343.4292754
Yes.
840
01:08:12,373.4292754 --> 01:08:17,113.4292754
Everything you just said resonated, but not all in the same way at the same time.
841
01:08:17,113.4292754 --> 01:08:18,583.4292754
So I'm gonna sit for a second.
842
01:08:19,273.4292754 --> 01:08:34,603.4292754
I wanna name that the puja that you started with when we first worked together, what you just shared has become a part of my practice in a way that works for me because I witnessed it with you.
843
01:08:34,603.4292754 --> 01:08:43,513.4292754
You explained it to me, and I started playing around with it because it was clear to me that my energy was very regularly intermingling with other people's energy.
844
01:08:43,933.4292754 --> 01:08:52,33.4292754
I would suddenly feel nauseous or anxious or restless in my body and I would check and feel like, wait, this isn't mine.
845
01:08:52,33.4292754 --> 01:08:54,313.4292754
I think this belongs to the person I'm sitting with.
846
01:08:54,693.4292754 --> 01:09:00,273.4292754
So that as a part of my therapy training was incredibly hmm.
847
01:09:01,747.5766677 --> 01:09:08,467.5766677
I don't think it was ever explicitly stated that I was intuitively sensing energy in other people.
848
01:09:09,67.5766677 --> 01:09:15,67.5766677
And you gave me language to understand what had already been happening in my therapeutic practice.
849
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But also you gave me tools to be able to use that information in a way that served people and also protect myself because I didn't know how to do that before and I didn't realize that energetic practices, rituals, language had the ability to help me in the ways that it has in, in fact, I mentioned to you earlier, I sat in my car before I came inside today, balancing my chakras welcoming in our guides and our ancestors to support us and allow the language to flow today in a way that was both gonna be helpful for our listeners, but also helpful for me and you.
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I learned that from you, so thank you, Arielle.
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Thank you.
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It's, well, that is really great to hear because I, I still feel like I am in the discovery space of what this looks like, and I can also be very grateful that I've had opportunities to connect with other practitioners, other lineages.
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Um, I go down to Oaxaca often, and so the ability to sit in a escal, which is a sweat lodge and really embrace these different traditions that other cultures have, has really opened the doorway for me to even just be comfortable sitting here today explaining this, because in the past, I probably would be a little bit more squirrely mm-hmm.
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About these conversations because I was a little afraid of prosecution, honestly.
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Yeah.
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Um.
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I know when I changed language on our website in regards to the womb ceremony because we have so many clients who are dealing with infertility and no one in the western world is talking about womb placement and things like that.
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And like, there's no guarantee that we can help with a pregnancy, but we can definitely connect and hopefully shift some things to achieve that.
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But when I changed the language on the website for womb alignment and womb therapy we just mentioned briefly like this could help.
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It didn't even say like it's a promise.
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It could just say this could help.
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I got a letter from our insurance agent saying like, we're gonna drop your insurance, you're not a doctor.
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Hmm.
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And like that was within a week of me changing the website, like who's paying attention to little old me? Yeah.
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And so that really set my nervous system of fire, of like.
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I really am passionate about this work, but like there's people out there that don't want this information known.
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Mm-hmm.
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And that's a little scary and maybe a little conspiracy theory, but like it happened.
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Yeah, Right.
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Back to the, the witch hunts.
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The witch trials.
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Like when we speak outside the bounds of what is socially accepted, we will upset some people, and then we can have our voices quieted and we don't live our truth.
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And so it's really a big deal that we're sitting here speaking so openly about this, knowing that there are risks in doing so, but there's also risks in not doing it and not sharing openly of ourselves.
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And this is an authentic space.
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So I, I so appreciate you going there with me because it was probably the one piece that I was like, I want to, but I'm not sure.
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And then we did.
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And how does it feel? It feels good.
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it makes me happy to be able to call that behavior out almost.
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Like, you're, you're not gonna bully us down and fine, I'll just change the language of how we support people, but I am, I'm not gonna just not offer it.
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You have taught me for sure to, to let go of the trying, actually to tune in, to notice when I'm trying to control that which is not within my control, and notice that, relax my grip and just, just be with the parts of myself who need support.
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And you have allowed me to bring in IFS so beautifully.
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And we've talked about how IFS and NARM have similarities Yes.
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Differences NARM again, being the neuro affective relational model, which has so much value.
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But I don't know.
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I just, I could talk to you forever, but you have to go and so do I.
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Yes.
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So I'm gonna let you go now.
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Thank you so, so much for your time and your energy, Arielle, your presence, your spirit, everything.
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Thank you.
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You are so welcome.
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It was a pleasure being here today.
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Yay.
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All right.
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Take care everyone.
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Hello and welcome back to another episode of Authentically Connected.
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I am Beyond excited to welcome my guest, Arielle Schmidt.
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Arielle.
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Hello.
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Hello.
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It's so good to be here.
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I am really excited about this conversation.
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I'm excited to see the directions that we're gonna move and hopefully enlighten some listeners.
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I have no doubt that we will.
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So I invited you on because you've been an incredibly important presence and provider in my life.
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Um, you are my Thai yoga therapist.
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Since August of 23.
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That's when I started working with you.
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And the difference that the work that we've been doing together has made in my life has been tremendous.
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I am given to hyperbole in general.
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I'm just a person who likes to use a lot of those words, but I'm kind of sorry that I do that in general because it feels like it lessens how much I mean it when I say.
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You've made all the difference for me, so thank you.
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Well, I feel like I get a little bit out of our sessions as well, because we pick each other's brains back and forth on the different sides of stuff so it is a mutual benefit, honestly.
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Awesome, awesome.
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I'm so glad.
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That feels good.
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So I've invited you on because I think that the work you do is incredibly important, not only for me, but just in general, for people to understand what you understand through your education, your training, your work, and also on a personal level.
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And then you have, you have imparted your wisdom to me about the elements, about the meridians, about the way the body speaks to us, the language that my body has been using to communicate with me all the time.
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But I didn't speak the language before.
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You've helped me learn it.
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And I would love if we can just start with you sharing about, you know, who you are, a bit about your background, and also about what you do.
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Yeah, for sure.
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My background can be extremely long, so I'm gonna try to keep it short and every time I say that on a podcast, it goes way longer than it should.
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So I am, I'm really gonna try to cliff note it.
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It's all welcome.
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So my degree is in health, physical education and recreation.
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AKA kind of a made up degree 'cause I didn't know what I wanted to do in life.
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But during that time I found my way into yoga as a random credit, GPA booster.
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And while I was to going to college, I actually dropped into some corrections work at the local jail.
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Um, so both in college and when I moved to Cincinnati, so I'm originally from South Dakota.
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And so when I was kind of doing that yin yang lifestyle, I would say like 18 credits, going to school, working, being an athlete, all the things.
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It was really hard to find that balance.
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And so when I did drop into that semester long yoga class, I realized that my system was always running around like, go, go, go, go, go.
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And I actually hated yoga at first.
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Like the fact that it was slowing me down, like I just found it pointless.
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But after the semester evolved and I felt the sensational shifts in my own system, I didn't have language for it and I didn't really understand what was going on.
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But as a broke college student, I just made the wishful whim of going, you know what? I'm gonna go to India and learn this someday.
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And then fast forward, like however many years it took, probably, I think I was out in Cincinnati a few years before I had the opportunity, and it was pretty much kismet.
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I walked into the Cincinnati Yoga School, shout out to them.
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I love them.
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That is my biggest recommendation in Cincinnati.
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Go to them.
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But the owner taught the class that I went to.
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So my very first class with him, the owner was teaching and he said, Hey, don't forget, we're headed to India in six months.
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And I was not new to my corrections job at the time, but definitely new enough that I didn't have enough seniority to just be like, oh, hey, by the way, can I take 30 days off? I had the vacation time for it because of the crazy overtime, but I didn't know if I would actually get approved off and the universe was looking out for me.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I think I got like 26 out of the 30 days approved and had to do a couple shift trades.
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And next thing I knew I was off to India and I had like three or four breakdowns in India.
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One literally on the plane ride there going, oh my God, what did I just get myself into? Totally.
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And then again, when I got to India, I found out that we were learning Thai massage.
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And I literally went, what the actual f I don't wanna touch anybody I am not here to have fun.
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I am here to just learn.
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Mm-hmm.
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And that was also the protective mechanisms of my corrections work.
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Like you didn't allow anybody to get close to you.
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Mm-hmm.
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I was a pretty robotic person, especially being a female in that system.
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We did have male and females in there, but you know, you just learn to be a robot.
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'cause I didn't want to ever be taken advantage of or find myself in a manipulative position mm-hmm.
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Where they had something on me 'cause I gave them a favor or something.
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So I kept everything very black and white to the rule book.
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So very stark difference.
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And, um, The next thing you knew, I finished my training in India and I was like, oh my God, I love this, but I don't really know how to give Thai massage because it was so sporadic for those 30 days.
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That I just was like, okay, I have a five year plan.
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I'm gonna leave the jail in five years.
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That's when my retirement stuff kicks in or whatever.
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And I got back from India and I think like within 24 hours I got the call saying, Hey Schmidt, by the way, you're forced for another eight hour shift, which was 16 hours, day one of being back.
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And I just said, oh my God, are you, you gotta be kidding me.
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Mm-hmm.
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Like, this is my life.
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Just like working 16 12, 16, 12, 16, 12 with like zombie hours.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I signed up for a Thai training in Costa Rica that night.
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And so fast forward, it took one full rotation of a year.
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So February, 2017, I went to India and then February, 2018, I quit the jail.
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And I actually had started Tranquility rising September of 2017.
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And so there was a little bit of overlap where I was working the crazy 16 12, 16 12 And also trying to see Thai clients and you know, getting off at 4:00 AM seeing a 6:00 AM client.
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So kind of taking a nap in the studio as I like get outta my corrections clothes and like, it was rough for quite a while, but fast forward, it's been eight years and I still work myself like crazy, but only 'cause I love it.
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Wow.
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Thank you so much for describing that evolution and what was happening in your life at those times that led you to the next step and the next step after that, which led you here.
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And I would love it if you could share more about what Tranquility Rising is, your practice and what the kinds of things are that you do.
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And I can read off the list from your website.
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Part of me wants to because it's just such a fascinating list, but I'm gonna let you go ahead and describe and then we'll see if it feels right.
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Yeah.
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I'll, I'll tell you what Tranquility Rising does, and then the audience might wanna have an idea of why what we do is so different from maybe other modalities.
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Mm-hmm.
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Around Cincinnati or just in general.
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I don't, I can't say no one else does what I do, but the vast amount of training that I have, I think, influenced how I operate.
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Tranquility Rising, so at the core of Tranquility Rising is technically Thai Yoga Massage.
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We never categorize it as Thai Yoga massage because we're not ever looking for a client who is just like, oh, I have low back pain.
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Like, can you help? Sure.
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But you can also go see a deep tissue massage.
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You can go get sweet, you can go do a lot of things For a lot of problems on the physical side.
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So at our core, yes, we use the techniques of Thai massage, but the reason that we call it Thai therapy is because we, um, start integrating Ayurveda, which is the Indian version of Chinese medicine, is what I like to say.
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I don't know really how to describe it versus that.
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It brings in Chinese medicine through the five elements.
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And then we also have our yoga background.
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So I've got 500 hours of yoga training, not necessary, but it is helpful to understand how the body moves.
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And then my joke is always I learned how to kind of like break people before I healed people.
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Mm-hmm.
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And so like just being able to control and maneuver like that was always helpful.
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So that's a little background space.
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But why our Thai Yoga works is because we operate through the 12 major meridians of Chinese medicine, which is also you can call 'em, Sen lines.
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But essentially they're the major energy channels that run through the body.
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So what an acupuncturist uses for their acupuncture.
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Um, and then because we know those 12 energy lines, they are integrated into the five lower chakras, which are also like connected to the five elements of Chinese medicine.
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So we do go back and forth between these two modalities.
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Each of the 12 meridians has specific questions related to it.
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So we talk about boundaries, we talk about emotions, we talk about, where are you getting burned out in life, do you feel like you're stuck between decisions? Do you feel like you can't speak? And so on and so forth.
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Like tons and tons and tons of questions.
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To really fully understand your patterns at the core of what's going on in your life, either from protection mechanisms or trauma or just like your parents taught you a certain way.
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And so that's the core of Tranquility Rising.
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And then over the years we've integrated other modalities such as NARM, which is Neuro Affectionate Relationship Model, which is an actual therapeutic licensed psychologist space.
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I only have a basic training 'cause I am not a licensed psychologist, so we call it coaching, elemental Coaching.
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But the NARM explores early life patterns and connections without having to revisit the actual trauma itself, but by noticing the present patterns that we are dealing with in present day.
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And then my newest favorite offering is Aufstellung, also known as Family Constellation, which is a little bit more on the energy work of things.
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So we might get into that later in the podcast.
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Mm-hmm.
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Depending on how much we get.
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But that deals with inherited trauma, relational dynamics of the family field We try to blend all of these approaches together so that at the end of the day, clients go home with more understanding of why they are where they're at.
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Mm-hmm.
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Without judgment.
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Yes.
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That has been my experience very much so.
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Incredible.
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Thank you for laying that all out there.
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There's so much in what you do and the combination of things really, it just, you're so attuned to whatever it is that I need whenever I come and actually I'm, I'm realizing in this moment that I wanna share about how we met and what got me started with you because I think that, it goes along with what you're saying.
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So you ran into a friend who I happened to be having coffee with, and that was how we met.
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And so we went out for coffee.
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And as you were telling me about what you do, and I was trying to understand it better, I mentioned some discomfort I had in my body.
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I had this pain in my lower back that had been with me for a long time.
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I had done a lot of things for it.
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It always came back.
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That was the left side of my body.
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So I also had a, pain in my left scapula shoulder area.
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And the outside of my left leg.
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And you said, oh, that's your gallbladder line.
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Did you not feel heard, like you had a voice as a child? And my initial response was, no.
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Sometimes I did not.
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And how did you know that? And my second response internally was, what? How do those things connect? So then I was curious and as you explained how it worked, I just got more and more interested.
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And so I came in, I did my initial session with you, the was three hour.
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Yeah, we do a two and a half hour new client session where we do 30 minutes of intake just for clarification purposes.
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And that's kind of the, I call it the party trick version because you guys are telling me everything that's going on.
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And so I'm internally mapping out the meridians before I even touch your body.
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Mm-hmm.
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And so even if I never saw you in person, I could still give you, I put this in air quotes 'cause I can't diagnose, but I can give you a map of what's going on.
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And then we do 90 minutes of body work and then a 30 minute final presenting of findings.
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So And that is exactly what happened.
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It was, it was a variety of different things in that first session.
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I remember feeling so incredibly grounded on the mat.
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You started working on these meridians.
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So really a massage from the bottom up.
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One side of the body at a time.
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And then the other side of the body, And I should preface it, this is all fully clothed.
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'Cause we move you into all kinds of positions.
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And so when Rachel says massage we call it acupressure.
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Um, so you can think of it more as like a gentle rocking of like, having pressure come on and pressure come off.
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Versus like a physical oil based massage or lotion based massage.
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And I will accu pressure through either my thumb points, my palms, my elbows.
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Sometimes I'm walking on people.
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And sometimes we just get a little creative with combining some things together.
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Thank you for clarifying.
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Because you're absolutely right.
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It's not anything like a traditional massage it was so clear to me as you were doing the work you were doing, that something was shifting in my body and some spots were really uncomfortable.
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There was discomfort in some of the areas where there were blockages and there were you call 'em gummies.
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I do call 'em gummy bears.
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And because we are running the fascia or the meridian lines run through the fascia of the body, not necessarily the muscles, which I know confuses people, but the fascia wraps the muscles.
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And so the energy lines run through the fascia.
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And so some people are like, oh, I'm just really knotted up all the time.
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And I'm like, but is it a physical muscle knot or is it an energetic block in the fascia? Mm-hmm.
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And sometimes we can't figure out the difference.
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That's why it takes some time.
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But some of the pain is also because meridians run through a lot of trigger points, which is why you can work on something in the shoulder and relieve the neck pain.
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And like some people feel, sensations like if I'm working reflexology in the feet.
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Then they're like, oh my gosh, I'm feeling this tingling up my right arm.
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So like the meridians run from toes to head, fingers to head.
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And I like to think of it as like clearing out a damned river.
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Yes, exactly.
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That's what it feels like.
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And as you work on the spaces and they start to clear out in my body, I feel this, this flow this feeling of wellbeing that is coursing through my body and it's the coolest thing ever.
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And it was brand new when I first did that initial intake.
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And then I signed up for a seven session.
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Do you call it a program or protocol? I.
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Think we've renamed it us a few times.
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Um, but right now it sits as the seven session reset.
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Reset.
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That's exactly what it was.
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So it was seven weeks in a row ish.
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The best we could do with that.
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And you do that, why, why do you have people do a seven session? Yeah, so we do the seven session reset because it allows us an individualized 90 minute session for each side of the body.
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And when we say each side of the body, it means we're gonna do first supine, which is face up.
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We're gonna do sideline, we're gonna do prone, which is face down.
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We're gonna do second supine, which is digestion and womb work.
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And then we also have a seated posture.
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And I know that's only five postures, but we always do a check in on day one, which kind of lets us explore all 12 of the meridians, very similar to our new client session.
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And then we finish with a two hour end cap, again, of full body so that we can ensure that the meridians are flowing correctly.
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And so.
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People don't like it when I say this, but we are literally dissecting the body mm-hmm.
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On side to side to side.
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And the reason that we do minimal once a week is so that we can ensure that we're picking up where we left off before too much time has passed and created more stagnation.
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So originally when this would've been created, like back back in the day, you would go to the spa or whatever they call it for an entire day and just get worked over and then, you know, it stretched out to seven days and then, you know, people don't have availability for that anymore.
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So now once a week and we try to give you guys a little bit of homework of like, Hey, do this yoga pose or do this stretch.
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I'm noticing X is happening underneath the armpit.
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Like, can you help keep these meridians open until the next time I see you? Absolutely.
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I am realizing that I did not plug in my computer ahead of time and it's going to die.
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So I'm going to grab my power cord now and in real time, take care of this.
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It is so clear to me as a client of yours, the intentionality that goes into the work that you do with me.
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Your expertise that you bring in it's not only the training that you've done and the knowledge that you have, but it's all intuitive.
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You really connect with it.
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And with me.
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Through a felt sense.
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And I do wanna get into the body more in terms of somatics in a moment, but I realize I, I wanna see if we can talk some more about how you bring the elements in, because I have found discussions of, you know, what elements do I have too much of or not enough of in my life to be incredibly beneficial when you overlay that with meridians in the body.
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So can you share more about that? Yes.
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Um, so for those that might be better at visually understanding what this looks like, you can Google the five elements of Chinese medicine and a star will pop up traditionally and it has methods of creating support cycles and control cycles.
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And so each of the five elements helps the other one.
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But when we're imbalanced, it can create these insulting cycles or freeze moments, stagnation, whatever you wanna call it.
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So I'll try not to get too confusing and just talk.
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Specifically about each element versus how they interact with each other.
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Because that can get really complicated and it probably should be like a whole training.
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So there's five elements of Chinese medicine and we have earth, water, fire, air and space.
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And there's also other words for air and space such as metal and wood.
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But for me personally, I like using air and space just because of the analogies that we use for client space.
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So the earth element itself connects to first chakra.
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And so for first chakra work or earth work, we look at safety, security.
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How are we having the ability to stay present, not restless? The ability to ground find nourishment and just this deep sense of stability.
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I like to think of the five elements or the five lower chakras as also the first five years of age.
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So like, what would you need when you are at age one? You need a lot of support.
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You need a lot of stability, a lot of co grounding or co-regulation.
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And then like you're reliant on nourishment from literally anyone.
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Um, so that's the earth element.
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And when we find ourselves imbalanced we can either fall into deficiency, which creates fears, anxieties, restlessness, or we can fall into too much earth.
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And that would be this heavy unyielding, monotonous, sluggish, hoarding, materialistic space.
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created because of a lack of that balance state that we mentioned prior.
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So that's the earth element.
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So this is our emotional regulation space, our adaptability, our flow state.
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And when we find ourselves deficient in this space, we end up being much more numbed out.
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So welcome to my life as a corrections officer.
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And when we are in an excess here, we find ourselves in those big mood swings, the inability to regulate poor boundaries, just kind of swinging all over the place, trying to find the boundaries of where that water should be flowing.
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I love to call this the spark space.
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This is the definition of who we are.
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This is our confidence, our self-esteem, our goodwill.
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All of that is balanced space.
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It also helps with our digestion, our transformation, joy, all of that.
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However, when we find ourselves in deficiency, this is where depression falls in.
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Weak will, low self-esteem, all of those negative spaces of self.
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And then if we find ourselves more in the excess space, this is the overly competitive, aggressive hyper independence.
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Again, welcome to me in corrections mode.
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So you're starting to see like how these deficiencies and excessiveness, um, really shapes us.
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Um, so the last two we've got air, which is heart chakra.
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This is our love space.
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This is just everything that makes us feel supported and loved and all of that.
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We kind of spiral inward.
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Just kind of going above and beyond too much, pushing ourselves in that direction.
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And then the final space is space, um, which is fifth chakra, which is our throat.
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So this is how, how do we use our voice? are we resonant? Are we truthful? Are we speaking with conviction? Are we just here for it? Kind of like we're talking right now.
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But if we're in a deficiency, again, we fall back into more of that weak voice.
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Weak will shy space and excess would be.
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You can hear 'em across the room.
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They're loud.
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They're over the top, they're gossipy.
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They're just obnoxious and like in your face all the time.
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And you're just like, oh my gosh, you're a lot.
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Yeah.
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So that's gonna be the excess state.
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So all five of those again correlate to the five lower chakras.
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And so in yoga, we're trying to reach those higher chakras.
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We have seven total, so chakra six and seven, both of those are trying to reach higher enlightenment.
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Mm-hmm.
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So the idea is if we can balance the five lower chakras, and I love the fact that my training integrated the Chinese medicine like, if you can get yourself into a more balanced state on a regular basis, you do get those moments of enlightenment and higher insight.
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And I can tell you my practice doing the work that I do.
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It really did start more on like the physical body work side of it, coupled with a little bit of emotional awareness.
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'cause I had the questions related to each meridian.
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However, I will probably say in the last couple years when I trained my secondary practitioner is really when I started leaning into the true intentionality of the work that we do.
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Mostly because I was afraid of being seen as like a fraud because a lot of energy work and things like that, like how do you prove it? Mm-hmm.
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And so I didn't lean into it until I started training her and it almost unlocked this little ability to share all the things that I had been doing over the years that I didn't feel comfortable speaking out loud.
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But now I have someone in my space who is like geeking out as much as I am.
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Yes.
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And then having clients like you come in and like.
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Openly, like, no, don't hide the geek out.
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Like, let me know more.
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Yes.
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Oh, that's, it's been freeing for you, it sounds like.
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Yeah.
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To be able to access that and open up about it.
325
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it's been a huge part of what has been so life changing for me, in the ability to learn about my body, learn about the energy meridians, the cha chakras, the, overlay of the earth elements, not earth elements, the elements but also the energy work piece.
326
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And we can come back to that later if we want to.
327
00:25:30,480.3283298 --> 00:25:35,76.9949964
But I, I wanted to name a couple things that I've really benefited from in the elemental space.
328
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And actually, hmm, it's possible that this wasn't an element, but I remember you were talking about too much sweetness.
329
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And I was in a space where I was certainly not balanced at my root.
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A lot of the things that you described, I was experiencing on both sides, showing that lack of, balance.
331
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But I was going for too much sweetness all the time.
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Anything that allowed me to feel comfort, pleasure, I was just like, I was like a rat and a maze with the sugar water.
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I was hitting that button over and over and at a certain point I wasn't enjoying it anymore.
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And you held space in a way that allowed me to name that without feeling any judgment whatsoever.
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And to actually feel like I could access the parts of me that desired to shift away from that.
336
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So the sweetness could be sweet again, and I could have balance at other times.
337
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Where does the sweetness fit in? Yeah.
338
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So you're spot on.
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It is part of the earth element.
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So there's two meridians with each of the elements and then four for fire.
341
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But I'm not gonna go dive.
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Dive.
343
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Yeah.
344
00:26:35,796.9949964 --> 00:26:35,976.9949964
So.
345
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The spleen line is the one that Rachel is talking about.
346
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So this is the yin line of the earth element.
347
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And so when we talk about sweetness, we ask a few different questions like what or who is stealing your sweetness? Yes.
348
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Or what are you excessively drawn to? Then we look at addiction and so most people see addiction as like a negative thing, like drugs or alcohol or like binge eating or something to the negative side of them.
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00:27:10,621.9949964 --> 00:27:20,941.9949964
But it can also be like I go to the gym twice a day and like that might not be helpful, but I always say like, if you're reaching for something over and over and over.
350
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What are we missing or where are we trying to cover up? Mm-hmm.
351
00:27:24,516.9949964 --> 00:27:35,631.9949964
And for me it is a nice crispy coke, I don't know what it is, but the moment I start reaching for a Coke every day I have to hit the hard red flag for me and go, whoa, wait a second.
352
00:27:36,501.9949964 --> 00:27:39,156.9949964
some part of my need space is not being met.
353
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Mm-hmm.
354
00:27:39,601.9949964 --> 00:27:50,661.9949964
Because the safety and security, the ability to be present, the ability to feel secure is being disrupted because that is the balance point of earth.
355
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Mm-hmm.
356
00:27:51,351.9949964 --> 00:28:00,85.3283298
So when I start reaching for those crispy Cokes I'm like, wait a second, I'm trying to cover up something that I have tuned out of.
357
00:28:00,85.3283298 --> 00:28:00,175.3283298
Mm-hmm.
358
00:28:00,685.3283298 --> 00:28:10,345.3283298
And so now that I have the awareness of this sweetness desire, I can hopefully pause long enough to connect in and adjust the imbalance.
359
00:28:11,440.3283298 --> 00:28:15,310.3283298
And the imbalances are always going to be a like swinging pendulum.
360
00:28:15,310.3283298 --> 00:28:15,400.3283298
Mm-hmm.
361
00:28:15,640.3283298 --> 00:28:20,930.3283298
Like we can never get it perfect because we are humans, we're not in a cave isolated.
362
00:28:21,260.3283298 --> 00:28:30,170.3283298
So our own experiences, our own to-do lists, you know, people that we encounter that we didn't expect to encounter, like all of it is gonna swing our shifts.
363
00:28:30,170.3283298 --> 00:28:40,670.3283298
And if we are not careful and paying attention, we'll miss those little moments like you were talking about, of like, I'm reaching for the sweetness piece and it's not satisfying anymore.
364
00:28:40,670.3283298 --> 00:28:47,480.3283298
So now I'm gonna do it more and more and more until it does reach a threshold that feels satisfying or I'm so numbed out.
365
00:28:47,810.3283298 --> 00:28:47,990.3283298
Yes.
366
00:28:48,80.3283298 --> 00:28:53,750.3283298
Which then goes into the water and then we get into this whole debate of like, how do we balance people out? Yes.
367
00:28:54,20.3283298 --> 00:28:58,40.3283298
What you just said feels familiar because we've been through this together before.
368
00:28:58,40.3283298 --> 00:29:03,470.3283298
But also it's reminding me of the arc of my, my evolution through our time together.
369
00:29:03,470.3283298 --> 00:29:14,210.3283298
So, you know, I was really off balance after our first session because you had unlocked some things that I knew I couldn't access just through therapy alone, which is part of why I wanted to see you.
370
00:29:14,510.3283298 --> 00:29:16,370.3283298
But then I had to work that outta my system.
371
00:29:16,370.3283298 --> 00:29:19,820.3283298
And then the seven session reset made a huge difference.
372
00:29:19,820.3283298 --> 00:29:21,650.3283298
And we've been doing maintenance work ever since.
373
00:29:21,650.3283298 --> 00:29:27,440.3283298
But you know, so I started with you in August of 23, and it was December of 24.
374
00:29:27,840.3283298 --> 00:29:40,50.3283298
When I actually got to a point where I had done enough work with you and my other therapist to no longer pathologize, no longer judge myself for the ways in which I was coping.
375
00:29:40,470.3283298 --> 00:29:48,790.3283298
I didn't have to like them all, but I recognized them as tools that parts of me were using to do that shortcut that you talked about.
376
00:29:49,0.3283298 --> 00:29:50,80.3283298
I don't feel grounded.
377
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I don't feel secure.
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I'm gonna do these things to bypass that and feel better.
379
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And so I stopped judging myself for it.
380
00:29:56,590.3283298 --> 00:30:02,490.3283298
And No longer judging myself for the use of those things allowed space for me to sit with.
381
00:30:02,580.3283298 --> 00:30:02,880.3283298
Hmm.
382
00:30:03,990.3283298 --> 00:30:06,450.3283298
I'm noticing this is not feeling sweet anymore.
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I'm noticing I'm doing some bypassing here.
384
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And I'd like to get back to feeling grounded.
385
00:30:11,670.3283298 --> 00:30:24,690.3283298
And that is what made me decide in December of 24 to make January of 25 my authentically connected month, right? So I was actually gonna do a dry January, and then I was reading Dopamine Nation.
386
00:30:24,690.3283298 --> 00:30:35,560.3283298
I decided to make it dopamine reset January because I was letting go of not only alcohol that month, but a variety of other things that I was doing that weren't helping me anymore.
387
00:30:35,560.3283298 --> 00:30:38,50.3283298
And actually parts of me were like, please give me a break.
388
00:30:38,440.3283298 --> 00:30:42,370.3283298
And the parts of me that were using those tools were like, we're really tired.
389
00:30:42,430.3283298 --> 00:30:43,240.3283298
This is a lot.
390
00:30:43,930.3283298 --> 00:30:49,0.3283298
And so I decided to make January all about letting go of those things.
391
00:30:49,330.3283298 --> 00:30:54,580.3283298
But as I sat with that, it felt wrong to make a month about going without.
392
00:30:55,735.3283298 --> 00:31:06,645.3283298
And I said, okay, well what do I wanna create in the space instead? And it it felt really clear to me that what I wanted was just authentic connection with anything that made me feel connected.
393
00:31:06,705.3283298 --> 00:31:09,75.3283298
And so that's what that month became about.
394
00:31:09,648.6616631 --> 00:31:12,18.6616631
It's where the name for this podcast comes from.
395
00:31:12,678.6616631 --> 00:31:20,328.6616631
Because authentic connection became such a, a beautiful access to sweetness.
396
00:31:20,418.6616631 --> 00:31:20,868.6616631
Yes.
397
00:31:21,248.6616631 --> 00:31:23,228.6616631
And it's so curious.
398
00:31:23,258.6616631 --> 00:31:26,408.6616631
I'm probably lost my train of thought, but it was so cool when it came forward.
399
00:31:27,488.6616631 --> 00:31:37,88.6616631
so when we're talking about your authentic or that like pushback of, I wasn't sure if it felt good to just cut this out altogether.
400
00:31:37,88.6616631 --> 00:31:43,58.6616631
Right? Well, part of I think what we talked about in your session, and if you're okay with me sharing, please.
401
00:31:43,298.6616631 --> 00:31:54,273.6616631
Was part of the earth element is ritual, intentional space of, okay, if we don't wanna get rid of it, what is the boundary I wanna have with it? Mm-hmm.
402
00:31:54,358.6616631 --> 00:32:19,508.6616631
But also, what is the relationship I wanna have with it? Because if we're talking safety, security, stability in that earth space, sometimes it's not about getting rid of something altogether because it freaks the system out, but it's how can we be more intentional with it? How can we create a ritual around it so that it doesn't feel like it's driving us, but we are sitting side by side with it as a tool.
403
00:32:19,718.6616631 --> 00:32:19,838.6616631
Mm-hmm.
404
00:32:20,78.6616631 --> 00:32:22,268.6616631
To get to the next space.
405
00:32:22,508.6616631 --> 00:32:24,578.6616631
Yes, exactly.
406
00:32:24,848.6616631 --> 00:32:42,68.6616631
That is a huge part of what you have brought into my life through talking about it, but also I've been watching you in the rituals that you do through the work that we do together, and as I've been experimenting and exploring and I'm bringing it back to you and talking to you about it.
407
00:32:42,773.6616631 --> 00:33:00,363.6616631
I have grown this whole collection of tools that are some based in awareness, right? I just have this inner compass and, oh, I love what you said, uh, like where my edges, right? I know where my edges are and when I've lost my edges.
408
00:33:00,363.6616631 --> 00:33:10,923.6616631
Now, because we've been at this for a while and that practice has really helped oh, in so many different ways, including like giving me a name for my podcast.
409
00:33:10,923.6616631 --> 00:33:12,303.6616631
My daughter hates the name by the way.
410
00:33:13,113.6616631 --> 00:33:14,13.6616631
She thinks it's awful.
411
00:33:14,253.6616631 --> 00:33:16,113.6616631
And I'm like, yeah, but it's got meaning.
412
00:33:16,113.6616631 --> 00:33:16,983.6616631
And she's like, I don't care.
413
00:33:16,983.6616631 --> 00:33:19,623.6616631
You need something catchy, but I'm gonna leave it for now.
414
00:33:19,653.6616631 --> 00:33:34,983.6616631
Hey, tranquility Rising came from me sitting on a beach with an ex being so mad at like the whole relationship and going, what am I doing? I have to find a name for this business that I'm literally going back to create my LLC for.
415
00:33:35,403.6616631 --> 00:33:38,433.6616631
And I was miserable and I saw the sun setting.
416
00:33:38,748.6616631 --> 00:33:48,228.6616631
And I just was like, you know what? I wanna rise tomorrow and just feel completely at ease, at peace, tranquility, and then like, it just hit.
417
00:33:48,618.6616631 --> 00:33:54,588.6616631
So like, it doesn't matter if people like it or not, as long as it like, makes us feel connected, that's all that matters.
418
00:33:54,588.6616631 --> 00:33:55,758.6616631
Exactly, exactly.
419
00:33:55,758.6616631 --> 00:33:57,588.6616631
You hear that My love, my little daughter.
420
00:34:00,23.1671478 --> 00:34:09,196.5004811
Anyway, speaking of one of the things that's been so incredible, with our work together as well is that you have welcomed in, my family through the work.
421
00:34:09,196.5004811 --> 00:34:12,586.5004811
So I've brought both of my daughters to you and my husband sees you as well.
422
00:34:12,586.5004811 --> 00:34:14,686.5004811
I asked his permission, he said I was okay to share that.
423
00:34:14,716.5004811 --> 00:34:14,746.5004811
Okay.
424
00:34:15,226.5004811 --> 00:34:22,396.5004811
And as a result, we now all have access to understanding our bodies better, our nervous systems.
425
00:34:22,786.5004811 --> 00:34:26,566.5004811
And it's been incredibly impactful as a parent.
426
00:34:26,626.5004811 --> 00:34:31,276.5004811
You tuned in very quickly with each of my children to their need for more.
427
00:34:31,616.5004811 --> 00:34:32,246.5004811
Structure.
428
00:34:32,246.5004811 --> 00:34:33,416.5004811
I think Structure, yes.
429
00:34:33,416.5004811 --> 00:34:35,186.5004811
Clarity around what to expect.
430
00:34:35,203.1671478 --> 00:34:39,523.1671478
We've implemented things in our lives as a result of the feedback that you've given.
431
00:34:39,823.1671478 --> 00:34:43,513.1671478
But you didn't just do it based on behavior, right? You read their bodies.
432
00:34:43,573.1671478 --> 00:34:43,693.1671478
Yeah.
433
00:34:43,693.1671478 --> 00:34:49,923.1671478
You used, um, their reaction to your services to give really helpful feedback and that was just so cool Yes.
434
00:34:49,953.1671478 --> 00:34:52,683.1671478
Because they were definitely two different kiddos For sure.
435
00:34:52,683.1671478 --> 00:34:52,713.1671478
Uhhuh.
436
00:34:53,73.1671478 --> 00:34:56,43.1671478
And yet at the core they required the same thing.
437
00:34:56,43.1671478 --> 00:34:58,863.1671478
So that was the surprising part, I think for you.
438
00:34:58,893.1671478 --> 00:34:59,73.1671478
Yes.
439
00:34:59,253.1671478 --> 00:35:03,123.1671478
That like, how are these two kiddos that are completely opposites yes.
440
00:35:03,423.1671478 --> 00:35:06,363.1671478
And yet at their core, they needed the same thing.
441
00:35:06,363.1671478 --> 00:35:06,963.1671478
Mm-hmm.
442
00:35:06,988.1671478 --> 00:35:12,633.1671478
And that was so enlightening and helpful, and you held that space to be able to meet us wherever we were.
443
00:35:12,633.1671478 --> 00:35:14,403.1671478
So families of all ages.
444
00:35:14,403.1671478 --> 00:35:18,223.1671478
I mean, it's pretty cool for us all to be able to come to the same space and just get what we need.
445
00:35:18,948.1671478 --> 00:35:27,978.1671478
And I will say like having the partner be able to come in regardless if they stay long term or just even just a touch point of a session or two.
446
00:35:28,8.1671478 --> 00:35:28,98.1671478
Mm-hmm.
447
00:35:28,488.1671478 --> 00:35:43,8.1671478
To be able to understand where the communication breakdown is of people's coping strategies, and then being able to see how their coping strategy is influencing your coping strategy.
448
00:35:43,8.1671478 --> 00:35:51,858.1671478
Because half the time, the balancing part of the elements, I only get to see one side and also how you're perceiving the situation.
449
00:35:51,858.1671478 --> 00:35:51,868.1671478
Mm-hmm.
450
00:35:52,278.1671478 --> 00:36:04,458.1671478
And so when we can like, peel back the layers and go, oh, I'm noticing that you're perceiving a situation this way and your partner's perceiving a situation this way, and you guys actually want the same thing.
451
00:36:04,518.1671478 --> 00:36:04,608.1671478
Mm-hmm.
452
00:36:05,418.1671478 --> 00:36:11,508.1671478
But your coping strategies are in conflict and so that's why there's no resolution in any of this.
453
00:36:11,883.1671478 --> 00:36:12,423.1671478
Yes.
454
00:36:12,783.1671478 --> 00:36:19,953.1671478
And the fun part for me, being a corrections officer, I have such a good ability to like put a brick wall between sessions.
455
00:36:20,283.1671478 --> 00:36:23,973.1671478
So like, you never know what's in your husband's session.
456
00:36:23,978.1671478 --> 00:36:24,48.1671478
Mm-hmm.
457
00:36:24,333.1671478 --> 00:36:26,103.1671478
And he never knows what's in your session.
458
00:36:26,103.1671478 --> 00:36:30,123.1671478
And you guys could be like completely opposite sides of the spectrum.
459
00:36:30,123.1671478 --> 00:36:31,413.1671478
And yet you guys have no clue.
460
00:36:31,533.1671478 --> 00:36:32,133.1671478
Yes.
461
00:36:32,133.1671478 --> 00:36:34,203.1671478
Unless we talk about it, which at home.
462
00:36:34,233.1671478 --> 00:36:34,683.1671478
Yes.
463
00:36:34,743.1671478 --> 00:36:42,363.1671478
And that's the beauty of me, because like, I'm never gonna go, well, well I don't know, your husband said this.
464
00:36:42,368.1671478 --> 00:36:42,488.1671478
Mm-hmm.
465
00:36:42,588.1671478 --> 00:36:42,808.1671478
Hmm.
466
00:36:42,888.1671478 --> 00:36:44,343.1671478
Like, that's not what we do.
467
00:36:44,343.1671478 --> 00:36:50,823.1671478
We just sit and go, oh, that's really curious why, why you're perceiving it that way.
468
00:36:50,823.1671478 --> 00:36:50,853.1671478
Mm.
469
00:36:51,183.1671478 --> 00:36:53,373.1671478
And I have the information on the other side.
470
00:36:53,373.1671478 --> 00:36:55,743.1671478
And so usually, again, three sides to a story.
471
00:36:55,743.1671478 --> 00:36:56,973.1671478
Right? Absolutely.
472
00:36:57,93.1671478 --> 00:36:57,543.1671478
Yeah.
473
00:36:57,573.1671478 --> 00:37:00,963.1671478
And so now we bring the elemental side into it to help bring the balance.
474
00:37:03,327.6726324 --> 00:37:08,907.6726324
Language has always been how I understand myself and the world around me and express.
475
00:37:09,267.6726324 --> 00:37:13,27.6726324
And I've been learning how to drop into my body more.
476
00:37:13,177.6726324 --> 00:37:17,47.6726324
And then I know for some of us, we are in our bodies.
477
00:37:17,317.6726324 --> 00:37:22,657.6726324
Some of us have an easier time using the body as an access point, I think is the best way to say it.
478
00:37:22,747.6726324 --> 00:37:33,667.6726324
And will it translate into language eventually? Maybe, maybe not, but in the meantime, the body knows, and I think this is a good opportunity for us to shift over to talking about the body and somatics.
479
00:37:34,57.6726324 --> 00:37:37,27.6726324
That word that gets used a lot, that buzzword.
480
00:37:37,121.0059658 --> 00:37:43,911.0059658
What do you wanna share about this? Yeah, so I will drop a book recommendation if people really wanna get a little bit more into this.
481
00:37:43,911.0059658 --> 00:37:45,231.0059658
The body holds the score.
482
00:37:45,291.0059658 --> 00:37:45,921.0059658
Keeps the score.
483
00:37:45,921.0059658 --> 00:37:46,461.0059658
Keeps the score.
484
00:37:46,461.0059658 --> 00:37:46,941.0059658
There we go.
485
00:37:46,941.0059658 --> 00:37:47,421.0059658
Thank you.
486
00:37:47,521.0059658 --> 00:37:48,411.0059658
Bessel van der Kolk.
487
00:37:48,661.0059658 --> 00:37:53,821.0059658
If you want a little deeper dive, then maybe what you're just gonna get on this podcast, that's a great start point.
488
00:37:53,822.0059658 --> 00:38:01,729.7464942
Um, so yeah, somatics, it can be such a fad word these days But for us, somatic just means of the body.
489
00:38:02,260.8484724 --> 00:38:06,640.8484724
It is the noticing of sensations rather than analyzing them.
490
00:38:06,940.8484724 --> 00:38:06,970.8484724
Mm.
491
00:38:07,210.8484724 --> 00:38:14,86.8484724
So I can give an example and hopefully my future husband doesn't get mad that I'm using this example, but I don't think he will.
492
00:38:14,146.8484724 --> 00:38:14,536.8484724
Okay, good.
493
00:38:15,196.8484724 --> 00:38:30,196.8484724
Um, so when I got proposed to my entire left shoulder locked up and I had extreme pain in my neck, this should have been like, the happiest time in my life.
494
00:38:30,196.8484724 --> 00:38:35,986.8484724
And I was happy, like I was over the moon, and yet my body was saying differently.
495
00:38:36,16.8484724 --> 00:38:36,226.8484724
Mm-hmm.
496
00:38:36,616.8484724 --> 00:38:41,506.8484724
So instead of just ignoring it and just going, oh, I must have tweaked something when I slept.
497
00:38:42,16.8484724 --> 00:38:55,576.8484724
I sat with it for a really long time and I was like, okay, I'm noticing that this is the gallbladder, which is sensations of feeling trapped, sensations of not being able to speak up.
498
00:38:56,116.8484724 --> 00:39:04,501.8484724
And so, okay, what is happening in my life? Well, you know, in the traditional sense, I just got proposed to, so like, am I getting trapped in this marriage? Right? Mm-hmm.
499
00:39:05,656.8484724 --> 00:39:13,126.8484724
But then I had to dive a little bit deeper and go, okay, well he's shown me that that's not what's gonna happen.
500
00:39:13,126.8484724 --> 00:39:14,746.8484724
Like we have a loving relationship.
501
00:39:14,746.8484724 --> 00:39:29,386.8484724
So what else is it? What else might it be? And I know it's like analyzing then, right? Like I'm saying somatic is in the body, so I'm sitting in the body and now I'm using my NARM approach for the analyzation purposes.
502
00:39:29,836.8484724 --> 00:39:31,936.8484724
And so I'm sitting here feeling it.
503
00:39:31,936.8484724 --> 00:39:33,616.8484724
I'm never going away from the feeling.
504
00:39:33,616.8484724 --> 00:39:34,966.8484724
I'm just using those touch points.
505
00:39:34,966.8484724 --> 00:39:37,6.8484724
Like, oh, okay, so engagement.
506
00:39:37,36.8484724 --> 00:39:38,476.8484724
Okay, let me feel the body.
507
00:39:38,476.8484724 --> 00:39:41,86.8484724
Let me see if something comes forward.
508
00:39:41,866.8484724 --> 00:39:44,596.8484724
Oh, you know, my parents were divorced.
509
00:39:44,626.8484724 --> 00:39:46,396.8484724
Okay, let me sit with that.
510
00:39:46,426.8484724 --> 00:39:48,376.8484724
Let me feel back into that shoulder pain.
511
00:39:49,576.8484724 --> 00:39:55,966.8484724
Oh, is this how my mom used Language of protection? Like, don't ever combine finances.
512
00:39:56,56.8484724 --> 00:39:59,146.8484724
Don't get trapped with a man that you know, you don't know about.
513
00:39:59,146.8484724 --> 00:40:03,286.8484724
Like all of this language that was used for protection.
514
00:40:03,286.8484724 --> 00:40:03,296.8484724
Mm-hmm.
515
00:40:03,616.8484724 --> 00:40:04,846.8484724
Was coming forward.
516
00:40:04,846.8484724 --> 00:40:15,106.8484724
And it's not negative, like I love my mom and I love the way that she raised me, but the physical body was holding onto that as a protection space.
517
00:40:15,346.8484724 --> 00:40:20,476.8484724
So once I was able to sit with it and kind of connect all the dots, it was crazy.
518
00:40:20,476.8484724 --> 00:40:36,346.8484724
I started coughing and hacking and just like almost as though like a purge of like, this no longer serves me and I'm going to get this out of my system so that I can be back in my full joy space of grounded present space.
519
00:40:36,376.8484724 --> 00:40:36,466.8484724
Yeah.
520
00:40:37,156.8484724 --> 00:40:39,136.8484724
And so that's the somatic piece.
521
00:40:39,136.8484724 --> 00:40:52,936.8484724
Like can I sit in the discomfort of what my body is doing and not just chalk it up to I slept wrong, but can I sit with the sensation? And even if you didn't know the meridian lines, like this is the beautiful part about somatics.
522
00:40:52,966.8484724 --> 00:40:56,996.8484724
Even if you didn't know the meridian system, I find it a little bit of a shortcut, which is great.
523
00:40:57,580.1818058 --> 00:41:09,250.1818058
But if you were to truly sit and feel the body and just allow the sensations to come forward, the goal is that I would've come to those conclusions eventually.
524
00:41:09,310.1818058 --> 00:41:11,470.1818058
It just might have taken a longer period.
525
00:41:11,890.1818058 --> 00:41:12,760.1818058
Absolutely.
526
00:41:12,850.1818058 --> 00:41:14,860.1818058
That was really powerful, what you just shared.
527
00:41:15,130.1818058 --> 00:41:30,142.8642829
And I'm noticing this warmth in my heart And I think it is, it is appreciation, gratitude because what you just shared is what you have taught me how to do.
528
00:41:31,282.8642829 --> 00:41:59,287.8642829
And even though I don't know all the meridians, I have some bits and pieces of information, what I do know is that my body will tell me the truth every time, and I know how to tune in now using both parts work through IFS and what you have taught me to be able to send a message to that ache in this one spot or that warmth in another that says, I hear you.
529
00:41:59,287.8642829 --> 00:41:59,827.8642829
I feel you.
530
00:41:59,827.8642829 --> 00:42:13,277.8642829
What do you want me to know? And just to stay open to whatever shows up next and allow me to trust the wisdom of my body, of my system to let me know the best way to navigate my life right now.
531
00:42:13,937.8642829 --> 00:42:16,337.8642829
Yeah, I can really tune in now because you taught me.
532
00:42:16,337.8642829 --> 00:42:19,667.8642829
And that's what, that's what that warmth in my heart is, so thank you.
533
00:42:19,667.8642829 --> 00:42:19,877.8642829
Yeah.
534
00:42:19,877.8642829 --> 00:42:21,17.8642829
You're so welcome.
535
00:42:21,107.8642829 --> 00:42:23,237.8642829
I, I just love this space.
536
00:42:23,237.8642829 --> 00:42:32,657.8642829
Like I don't, I don't know if I ever would've put all of these pieces together without the building blocks, and I say it all the time.
537
00:42:32,657.8642829 --> 00:42:38,642.8642829
I'm so grateful that I fell into learning Thai massage the way I did.
538
00:42:38,647.8642829 --> 00:42:38,917.8642829
Mm-hmm.
539
00:42:39,212.8642829 --> 00:42:52,652.8642829
Because I can tell you right now, if I would've maintained my corrections attitude and I would not have learned about the meridians in that training, because I have two different Thai trainings.
540
00:42:53,612.8642829 --> 00:42:58,82.8642829
The original one taught me about the meridians and the conversational piece.
541
00:42:58,87.8642829 --> 00:42:58,237.8642829
Mm-hmm.
542
00:42:58,417.8642829 --> 00:43:05,72.8642829
But if I would've trained through the Somo Veda College of Natural Medicine, that was my secondary training.
543
00:43:05,792.8642829 --> 00:43:08,72.8642829
They don't talk about any of it.
544
00:43:08,72.8642829 --> 00:43:11,282.8642829
And maybe they do eventually, but I only took their level one.
545
00:43:12,242.8642829 --> 00:43:15,452.8642829
And I can tell you right now, I would not be here where I am.
546
00:43:16,22.8642829 --> 00:43:16,142.8642829
Mm.
547
00:43:16,202.8642829 --> 00:43:20,942.8642829
Because it was the ability to understand the body at its core.
548
00:43:21,152.8642829 --> 00:43:21,242.8642829
Mm-hmm.
549
00:43:21,572.8642829 --> 00:43:31,172.8642829
That's why I had all of those like big breakdowns in India and like I even, I journaled every day I am leading a toxic life.
550
00:43:31,202.8642829 --> 00:43:31,232.8642829
Mm.
551
00:43:32,192.8642829 --> 00:43:35,372.8642829
And I didn't realize why my body hurt so bad.
552
00:43:35,372.8642829 --> 00:43:40,322.8642829
I chalked it up to the like 12 pound duty belt that I wore every day and the 16 hours on my feet.
553
00:43:41,102.8642829 --> 00:43:43,922.8642829
But in reality, it was so much deeper.
554
00:43:44,72.8642829 --> 00:43:44,912.8642829
Yes.
555
00:43:45,332.8642829 --> 00:43:45,812.8642829
Yeah.
556
00:43:48,195.0201312 --> 00:43:54,806.3035779
There was a, synchronicity that led you to where you needed to be that led you to here now.
557
00:43:54,806.3035779 --> 00:44:07,226.3035779
And, and I feel that as well running into you the way I first met you, the space in my life that I've opened up to allow me to consistently come and work with you, and do all the other things.
558
00:44:07,226.3035779 --> 00:44:14,836.3035779
Like we are creating a life that is guided by our nervous systems, by our bodies, by energy.
559
00:44:14,841.3035779 --> 00:44:15,131.3035779
Yeah.
560
00:44:16,426.3035779 --> 00:44:20,206.3035779
And it is during our time together that I have.
561
00:44:20,806.3035779 --> 00:44:27,826.3035779
I said in an earlier episode something about getting hip to universal energy, and I think you're one of the ways that I got hip to it.
562
00:44:28,166.3035779 --> 00:44:35,356.3035779
Because of the way that you you focus on, you know, the energy that our body is using to share with us, but also, you know, energy in other ways.
563
00:44:35,356.3035779 --> 00:44:41,656.3035779
Learning how to protect ourselves from influences that are toxic or that aren't well-meaning.
564
00:44:41,956.3035779 --> 00:44:44,56.3035779
That isn't something I knew how to do naturally.
565
00:44:44,56.3035779 --> 00:44:49,6.3035779
And in fact, I think I was a big sponge in life, in my work, in my home life.
566
00:44:49,6.3035779 --> 00:44:52,816.3035779
Like anything negative around me, I was soaking it right up.
567
00:44:52,816.3035779 --> 00:44:58,186.3035779
And, um, my family, we were just like magnifying it with one another.
568
00:44:58,186.3035779 --> 00:45:14,386.3035779
And so now I have practices that I've learned from you, that I've developed because of our work together that allow me to feel more like I have more control over how I feel in my body and, how I move through life because I have tools.
569
00:45:14,656.3035779 --> 00:45:14,836.3035779
Yeah.
570
00:45:15,406.3035779 --> 00:45:35,266.3035779
I always run across, and this might be a little off topic, but the clients who come in and they're just like, I'm an empath, and I really try to push back on them, like really, really try to push back on them and go, no, you're not an empath, you're just imbalanced.
571
00:45:35,296.3035779 --> 00:45:35,326.3035779
Mm.
572
00:45:35,836.3035779 --> 00:45:38,386.3035779
Like you have learned these coping skills.
573
00:45:38,391.3035779 --> 00:45:38,791.3035779
Mm-hmm.
574
00:45:38,871.3035779 --> 00:45:50,686.3035779
To pick up on everybody's energies, their little micro movements, whatever it is, because at a very young age you didn't have the ability to just be safe.
575
00:45:50,686.3035779 --> 00:45:50,696.3035779
Mm-hmm.
576
00:45:51,346.3035779 --> 00:46:00,496.3035779
And so can we stop wearing that with a badge of like courage or like an honor thing or like, this is such a gift.
577
00:46:00,736.3035779 --> 00:46:10,573.5779544
Like can we just call the BS flag on that a little bit and go like it protected you for a really long time and you're now in an adult space.
578
00:46:10,843.5779544 --> 00:46:11,503.5779544
So like.
579
00:46:12,43.5779544 --> 00:46:13,843.5779544
Let's give this proper boundaries.
580
00:46:13,843.5779544 --> 00:46:13,933.5779544
Mm-hmm.
581
00:46:14,173.5779544 --> 00:46:25,628.5779544
It's not saying that you can't understand others and be empathetic and like all of that, but like, why are we allowing all of this energy to be absorbed into us when we don't need to? Mm-hmm.
582
00:46:25,713.5779544 --> 00:46:27,853.5779544
Like I could go on a rant.
583
00:46:27,883.5779544 --> 00:46:28,633.5779544
I kind of did.
584
00:46:28,633.5779544 --> 00:46:28,693.5779544
Yeah.
585
00:46:28,723.5779544 --> 00:46:38,803.5779544
But that it is a struggle for me to like just sit there and allow someone to almost sit in a victim hood of like, I'm just an empath.
586
00:46:38,863.5779544 --> 00:46:40,3.5779544
Like I can't help it.
587
00:46:40,93.5779544 --> 00:46:40,453.5779544
Mm-hmm.
588
00:46:40,903.5779544 --> 00:46:48,513.5779544
And it's like with these tools of awareness, we can actually get you into a state where like, you don't have to be.
589
00:46:48,913.5779544 --> 00:46:49,573.5779544
Yeah.
590
00:46:49,633.5779544 --> 00:46:49,933.5779544
Yeah.
591
00:46:49,933.5779544 --> 00:46:55,993.5779544
And I think in the past I probably would've I would have fit perfectly into that category.
592
00:46:55,993.5779544 --> 00:47:05,803.5779544
I think by the time I got to see you, I had figured out how to create healthy boundaries for my work life that served me, that served my clients.
593
00:47:06,748.5779544 --> 00:47:07,888.5779544
Definitely not in my home life.
594
00:47:08,8.5779544 --> 00:47:08,248.5779544
Yeah.
595
00:47:08,578.5779544 --> 00:47:12,688.5779544
I think that's why I got, uh, pinged a little bit to just speak, speak into that space.
596
00:47:12,688.5779544 --> 00:47:12,748.5779544
Yeah.
597
00:47:12,748.5779544 --> 00:47:19,528.5779544
Because I'm sure other people are experiencing very similar issues, and I find myself in that state a lot.
598
00:47:19,588.5779544 --> 00:47:19,678.5779544
Mm-hmm.
599
00:47:19,918.5779544 --> 00:47:26,178.5779544
Like I see it, but the option is how are we responding to it? Yeah.
600
00:47:26,208.5779544 --> 00:47:32,303.5779544
So part of that earth element is are we in a reactive state or a grounded state? Mm-hmm.
601
00:47:32,383.5779544 --> 00:47:38,628.5779544
And so a reactive state is, again, going above and beyond trying to fix things that aren't necessarily ours to fix.
602
00:47:39,18.5779544 --> 00:47:46,938.5779544
And having a husband with a high conflict parent and all of that, that encompasses it.
603
00:47:46,938.5779544 --> 00:47:51,708.5779544
Like, it's really hard to not just fall into old habits.
604
00:47:52,8.5779544 --> 00:47:55,248.5779544
Whose husband has a high conflict parent? No, my husband.
605
00:47:55,608.5779544 --> 00:47:56,118.5779544
Oh, okay.
606
00:47:56,118.5779544 --> 00:47:56,808.5779544
A high conflict parent.
607
00:47:58,593.5779544 --> 00:47:59,928.5779544
Wait, I wanna follow you.
608
00:48:01,98.5779544 --> 00:48:01,338.5779544
No, I know.
609
00:48:01,338.5779544 --> 00:48:02,718.5779544
It's, it's a weird new language.
610
00:48:02,718.5779544 --> 00:48:06,438.5779544
Like, we just got married, so I struggle back and forth.
611
00:48:06,438.5779544 --> 00:48:09,888.5779544
Like, wait, what do I call him? Yes, totally.
612
00:48:10,388.5779544 --> 00:48:19,38.5779544
I do have that same issue, like I had a high conflict parent myself, my father, and then, you know, you develop those skills mm-hmm.
613
00:48:19,278.5779544 --> 00:48:22,38.5779544
Of unquote empathic skills mm-hmm.
614
00:48:22,338.5779544 --> 00:48:23,568.5779544
To keep yourself safe.
615
00:48:23,568.5779544 --> 00:48:34,98.5779544
But then like that disrupts the nervous system so much, especially as you get older and older, because then you're all of a sudden exposed to way more chaos and you're like, wait a second, I need to fix all of this.
616
00:48:34,98.5779544 --> 00:48:36,48.5779544
Or I am not safe.
617
00:48:36,78.5779544 --> 00:48:36,168.5779544
Mm-hmm.
618
00:48:36,468.5779544 --> 00:48:42,108.5779544
And so just reprogramming that, but through the five elements of like, okay, I can be grounded.
619
00:48:42,108.5779544 --> 00:48:48,108.5779544
What are my needs? What are my boundaries? How am I emotionally feeling with second chakra? And so on and so forth.
620
00:48:48,198.5779544 --> 00:48:48,438.5779544
Yes.
621
00:48:48,588.5779544 --> 00:49:00,498.5779544
So the empathic side of this is truly like, can we see it as an imbalance versus a state of being? Yes.
622
00:49:01,98.5779544 --> 00:49:01,698.5779544
Yes.
623
00:49:01,758.5779544 --> 00:49:07,938.5779544
I'm thinking about I'm thinking about when you have told me that I had too many logs on my fire.
624
00:49:07,998.5779544 --> 00:49:08,148.5779544
Mm-hmm.
625
00:49:08,388.5779544 --> 00:49:08,398.5779544
Yeah.
626
00:49:08,398.5779544 --> 00:49:11,838.5779544
And as a result of too many logs on my fire, my fire was low.
627
00:49:11,898.5779544 --> 00:49:12,468.5779544
Yes.
628
00:49:12,618.5779544 --> 00:49:14,28.5779544
There wasn't enough air.
629
00:49:14,328.5779544 --> 00:49:14,658.5779544
Yeah.
630
00:49:15,198.5779544 --> 00:49:20,748.5779544
So that was, that's that imbalance of the air element of like, let me take on more.
631
00:49:20,748.5779544 --> 00:49:24,768.5779544
Let me people, please let me, like, let others be codependent on me.
632
00:49:24,768.5779544 --> 00:49:30,618.5779544
Let me keep putting more things on my fire, which then burns us out.
633
00:49:32,148.5779544 --> 00:49:38,58.5779544
And we have to figure out, this is one of the questions with the air element is the discernment of what to keep and what to let go.
634
00:49:39,288.5779544 --> 00:49:41,238.5779544
Yes, yes.
635
00:49:42,348.5779544 --> 00:49:58,548.5779544
These kinds of metaphors have been like these snack size gems that I can just carry with me and revisit in my daily life when I'm noticing, oh look, I just put another log on my fire.
636
00:49:58,938.5779544 --> 00:50:14,868.5779544
Is something else gonna go? Or do I really need to sit with how right does this feel? Okay, this is a tangent, but I'm thinking back to the fact that it was, it was during our work together that the question was posed to me by Jen Schneeman, our friend, who is also gonna come on.
637
00:50:15,318.5779544 --> 00:50:15,528.5779544
Amazing.
638
00:50:15,528.5779544 --> 00:50:15,798.5779544
Yes.
639
00:50:15,798.5779544 --> 00:50:16,638.5779544
I'm very excited.
640
00:50:16,638.5779544 --> 00:50:19,8.5779544
talk about nervous systems and a whole lot of different things.
641
00:50:19,278.5779544 --> 00:50:26,358.5779544
She was the one who posed me the question of whose throat block is it? Because I could feel a yes very clearly in my body and a no.
642
00:50:26,923.5779544 --> 00:50:32,113.5779544
When I asked my body to show me what a no feels like, I felt this block in my throat, this tightening up.
643
00:50:32,173.5779544 --> 00:50:34,693.5779544
I've never been able to wear a turtleneck in my life.
644
00:50:34,693.5779544 --> 00:50:37,993.5779544
I can't wear chokers like that has been there my whole life.
645
00:50:37,993.5779544 --> 00:50:40,393.5779544
But that's not what a no is supposed to feel like.
646
00:50:40,393.5779544 --> 00:50:54,242.0241008
And so I brought that to you and you helped me work through, well work on the energy, moving the energy physically through my body, but also sitting with Okay, my ability to express myself is blocked in some way.
647
00:50:54,242.0241008 --> 00:50:57,302.0241008
What do I wanna do with that? And how do we work through it? Yeah.
648
00:50:57,392.0241008 --> 00:51:01,172.0241008
And based on like what we just were talking about, that air element.
649
00:51:01,502.0241008 --> 00:51:09,332.0241008
So when we have too much of an air element that people pleasing, it overly controls the space element of the voice.
650
00:51:09,992.0241008 --> 00:51:10,52.0241008
Mm.
651
00:51:10,232.0241008 --> 00:51:18,512.0241008
And so again, if we go above and beyond, we are neglecting our own personal needs and self.
652
00:51:18,572.0241008 --> 00:51:20,72.0241008
And so no wonder we can't speak up.
653
00:51:20,852.0241008 --> 00:51:21,62.0241008
Yeah.
654
00:51:21,947.0241008 --> 00:51:22,367.0241008
Yes.
655
00:51:22,367.0241008 --> 00:51:37,487.0241008
That feels so validating in my body right now because I did that for a long time and I have, you helped bring it to my attention in a way that I could start working on it not just in my daily life, but also in my body.
656
00:51:37,492.0241008 --> 00:51:37,612.0241008
Yeah.
657
00:51:37,877.0241008 --> 00:51:48,77.0241008
And I should say that that pain that I carried around in my lower left, back into my leg for years and years and years, just recently, I said to, you know what? I noticed it's not there anymore.
658
00:51:48,857.0241008 --> 00:52:02,597.0241008
Yes, other things come up, but nothing is sticking in my body and just solidifying into a long term chronic issue anymore because, uh, my body and my parts all know that like I'm listening, I'm paying attention.
659
00:52:03,47.0241008 --> 00:52:12,917.0241008
Sometimes I get a little hyper-focused, but I think I've gotten to a space where like, like I had this ache in the back of my arm the other day when something happened and I just put my hand on it and I said, yeah, I get it.
660
00:52:13,277.0241008 --> 00:52:18,107.0241008
I, I don't know what you're trying to tell me, but I know what just happened and that feels connected.
661
00:52:18,287.0241008 --> 00:52:19,487.0241008
And then it just went right away.
662
00:52:19,607.0241008 --> 00:52:19,757.0241008
Yeah.
663
00:52:19,817.0241008 --> 00:52:19,877.0241008
Yeah.
664
00:52:22,774.8629188 --> 00:52:26,448.1962521
So if we wanna talk a little bit about the chronic injury space.
665
00:52:26,478.1962521 --> 00:52:26,628.1962521
Mm-hmm.
666
00:52:26,958.1962521 --> 00:52:39,88.1962521
What I believe, and this is just what I've seen over the last eight years, I try to just speak from experience versus like, did someone teach me this? Because half the time things come to me through other channels.
667
00:52:39,88.1962521 --> 00:52:39,338.1962521
Mm-hmm.
668
00:52:39,678.1962521 --> 00:53:07,788.1962521
But what I have seen in my years of work is that when the body is trying to tell us things all the time, and so if we ignore the problem, the emotional problem, it creates stagnation in the meridian lines, which then if stagnation builds up, it creates a weak point, which then if we ignore that little tweak, it then becomes bigger of a tweak.
669
00:53:07,848.1962521 --> 00:53:11,508.1962521
And then it possibly comes into like an injury, injury space.
670
00:53:11,508.1962521 --> 00:53:11,518.1962521
Mm-hmm.
671
00:53:11,868.1962521 --> 00:53:15,378.1962521
And that could be like a physical, like break.
672
00:53:15,753.1962521 --> 00:53:25,853.1962521
Like I can tell you right now, I was in not a great relationship emotionally a few years back and I got a hamstring injury that still aggravates today.
673
00:53:26,363.1962521 --> 00:53:28,793.1962521
And mostly 'cause I don't think I did any physical therapy for it.
674
00:53:28,853.1962521 --> 00:53:41,273.1962521
But, um, so there's the physical component of like, yes, our bodies do have limitations, but I do truly believe it became weak because that is the bladder meridian and my emotional needs were not being met.
675
00:53:42,353.1962521 --> 00:53:45,203.1962521
And that was a chronic five year issue.
676
00:53:45,413.1962521 --> 00:53:45,503.1962521
Mm-hmm.
677
00:53:45,743.1962521 --> 00:53:48,653.1962521
And that's what created the like hardcore weakness in that spot.
678
00:53:48,803.1962521 --> 00:53:52,673.1962521
So other people will experience like low back pain, which is also bladder.
679
00:53:52,673.1962521 --> 00:53:59,453.1962521
So again, we look at these big chronic pain points and we give them a voice.
680
00:53:59,873.1962521 --> 00:54:11,783.1962521
And when we give them a voice, we are hoping and praying that the body has enough resilience and vitality to give us back the strength to heal those spaces.
681
00:54:12,38.1962521 --> 00:54:13,958.1962521
Before it's irreversible.
682
00:54:13,958.1962521 --> 00:54:14,48.1962521
Mm-hmm.
683
00:54:14,78.1962521 --> 00:54:17,528.1962521
Because now it's become like a legitimate physical issue that needed surgery.
684
00:54:17,588.1962521 --> 00:54:18,98.1962521
Mm-hmm.
685
00:54:18,608.1962521 --> 00:54:25,238.1962521
Or because Western medicine teaches us that, you know, there's a quick fix to this.
686
00:54:25,238.1962521 --> 00:54:26,438.1962521
Let's just do this.
687
00:54:26,468.1962521 --> 00:54:30,308.1962521
Versus like, you've been with me for a year, two years now.
688
00:54:30,308.1962521 --> 00:54:30,398.1962521
Mm-hmm.
689
00:54:30,758.1962521 --> 00:54:31,238.1962521
Right.
690
00:54:31,598.1962521 --> 00:54:43,148.1962521
Other people have been with me for eight years, and so we see these slow, monotonous progresses, but at the end of the day, we didn't need Western intervention.
691
00:54:43,418.1962521 --> 00:54:43,508.1962521
Mm-hmm.
692
00:54:43,748.1962521 --> 00:54:59,648.1962521
And so I'm not saying that there's not a place for Western intervention because there is, but are we able to stay in the present moment to really focus in and acknowledge and give the body a voice so that it can heal? Yes.
693
00:55:00,338.1962521 --> 00:55:03,518.1962521
The answer is yes, because that's what I've been doing.
694
00:55:03,788.1962521 --> 00:55:06,38.1962521
That's what you've been doing with me and for me.
695
00:55:06,38.1962521 --> 00:55:12,848.1962521
And I think what you're saying is probably giving hope to some people who feel like they've tried everything.
696
00:55:12,938.1962521 --> 00:55:18,998.1962521
They've tried everything else, western medicine has told them nothing's wrong or you need surgery.
697
00:55:18,998.1962521 --> 00:55:20,648.1962521
And then there's nothing holistic.
698
00:55:20,648.1962521 --> 00:55:24,498.1962521
There's nothing helping them get at the ways that their life is feeling imbalanced.
699
00:55:24,518.1962521 --> 00:55:30,578.1962521
They don't have the sweetness or too much sweetness or their body is speaking to them all the time and they don't speak the language.
700
00:55:30,578.1962521 --> 00:55:30,638.1962521
Yeah.
701
00:55:31,178.1962521 --> 00:55:48,18.1962521
And that is a big part of why I wanted to have this conversation with you and to be able to share it so openly because I feel like the gift that our work together has given me is awareness of this whole world that has made me feel more whole, More balanced for sure.
702
00:55:48,48.1962521 --> 00:55:52,938.1962521
And more aware that when I get off balance I know what to do and I know who to come to for help.
703
00:55:54,618.1962521 --> 00:55:55,713.1962521
I had a I appreciate that.
704
00:55:56,298.1962521 --> 00:55:57,18.1962521
I do too.
705
00:55:57,18.1962521 --> 00:56:04,188.1962521
I had a, um, I had a session with you not too long ago where it felt like everything you did was just grounding me.
706
00:56:04,558.1962521 --> 00:56:09,843.1962521
Just over and over this flow through my body of, ugh, everything's gonna be okay, everything's gonna be okay.
707
00:56:09,843.1962521 --> 00:56:11,373.1962521
And that's just such a nice feeling.
708
00:56:11,883.1962521 --> 00:56:28,863.1962521
it is really nice to have all of these touch points for clients, because what you said before is like when people feel helpless, Western medicine is not telling them things or they've invested so much in holistic practices because it is expensive to go the holistic route.
709
00:56:29,383.1962521 --> 00:56:36,403.1962521
And so our goal at the studio is always to give you as much information as possible so you can make the most informed decision as possible.
710
00:56:36,403.1962521 --> 00:56:44,783.1962521
Because we know that we are just one part of the journey, but it is so, and this might be a little bit of an ego thing for me.
711
00:56:45,373.1962521 --> 00:56:45,873.1962521
Do it.
712
00:56:46,423.1962521 --> 00:56:46,933.1962521
Do it.
713
00:56:46,933.1962521 --> 00:56:56,363.1962521
But it is so fulfilling to have the touchpoints on the physical body and go, you know, I'm not sure what's going on with your liver.
714
00:56:57,238.1962521 --> 00:57:07,588.1962521
But I'm noticing that it's a little inflamed and maybe the client is not willing to talk about the emotions of the liver, which is problematic, but also like this is inflamed.
715
00:57:07,588.1962521 --> 00:57:12,838.1962521
This is an actual physical issue in the body, which then has to be addressed Western side.
716
00:57:12,838.1962521 --> 00:57:13,168.1962521
Mm-hmm.
717
00:57:13,588.1962521 --> 00:57:19,588.1962521
So what if she been able to address it on the holistic side? If she would've tapped into the emotions of the liver? Maybe.
718
00:57:19,588.1962521 --> 00:57:26,578.1962521
I can't speak for that, but I can speak for, I told her to go get her labs done and she came back with fatty liver.
719
00:57:27,238.1962521 --> 00:57:27,988.1962521
Oh wow.
720
00:57:28,198.1962521 --> 00:57:34,528.1962521
So like, I can't diagnose, but I can push clients to go, Hey, something's not right here.
721
00:57:34,648.1962521 --> 00:57:34,738.1962521
Mm-hmm.
722
00:57:35,248.1962521 --> 00:57:39,568.1962521
If you're not gonna take it on my side, I am fully fine with that.
723
00:57:39,568.1962521 --> 00:57:44,488.1962521
But can you please just go check it so that like we can rule anything out.
724
00:57:44,488.1962521 --> 00:57:45,238.1962521
Mm-hmm.
725
00:57:45,244.1962521 --> 00:57:52,798.1962521
And like we also do womb work at the studio and you know, trying to figure out like what's going on and going, hey.
726
00:57:53,473.1962521 --> 00:57:56,53.1962521
Month after month, the same issue is coming up.
727
00:57:56,173.1962521 --> 00:57:57,133.1962521
I don't know what's wrong.
728
00:57:57,163.1962521 --> 00:57:59,23.1962521
Have you gone to the doctor? Yeah.
729
00:57:59,623.1962521 --> 00:58:06,133.1962521
And I will tell you, I got so mad when this client finally got answers from the Western side.
730
00:58:06,133.1962521 --> 00:58:10,273.1962521
It was like a year of like back and forth and back and forth of Western care.
731
00:58:10,963.1962521 --> 00:58:18,163.1962521
And we had, I can't say I diagnosed, but I had noticed an issue a year ago and it turned out to be a tumor.
732
00:58:18,735.5046421 --> 00:58:22,695.5046421
This is why we have to be such an advocate for our own system.
733
00:58:22,755.5046421 --> 00:58:23,205.5046421
Yes.
734
00:58:23,805.5046421 --> 00:58:29,775.5046421
And so whether we address it on the emotional side, because the womb is so powerful for women, we hold the emotions there.
735
00:58:29,775.5046421 --> 00:58:35,175.5046421
So if we're not processing them, I do think disease can create that space.
736
00:58:35,925.5046421 --> 00:58:46,275.5046421
But also like why is western medicine not checking these things? Right? Like, why are they not believing our system? And so when we tap into the somatic side of like.
737
00:58:46,605.5046421 --> 00:58:57,15.5046421
I'm understanding how my body should feel, which is also why the reset protocol is really powerful, because we reset it to go, oh, this is how it's supposed to feel.
738
00:58:57,15.5046421 --> 00:58:57,315.5046421
Mm-hmm.
739
00:58:57,795.5046421 --> 00:59:15,645.5046421
Then we can be bigger advocates for ourselves everywhere in our life, whether it's relationships or our western medicine or our holistic doctors, whoever it is, they lose the ability to kind of gaslight you and you lose the ability to gaslight yourself honestly.
740
00:59:15,855.5046421 --> 00:59:16,815.5046421
So true.
741
00:59:16,875.5046421 --> 00:59:23,318.8379755
Because you have a, touch point a foundation of, oh, this is what it's supposed to feel like.
742
00:59:23,348.8379755 --> 00:59:28,418.8379755
Okay, now I have something to compare it to, and yeah, you definitely gave me a voice.
743
00:59:28,418.8379755 --> 00:59:29,948.8379755
You gave my body a voice.
744
00:59:30,248.8379755 --> 00:59:37,388.8379755
You gave me more balance, and I can hear that that's what you do for a lot of people because you are just so tuned into the body.
745
00:59:37,418.8379755 --> 00:59:41,828.8379755
So I'll come in at the beginning of a session, you'll be like, what's going on? And I'll just talk, talk, talk, and you're like, okay.
746
00:59:42,338.8379755 --> 00:59:43,28.8379755
Get back to the body.
747
00:59:43,688.8379755 --> 00:59:48,278.8379755
What's your body telling you? And it doesn't really matter because you're like, it's gonna tell me on the mat anyway.
748
00:59:48,278.8379755 --> 00:59:48,338.8379755
Yeah.
749
00:59:48,338.8379755 --> 00:59:49,178.8379755
But just gimme an idea.
750
00:59:49,178.8379755 --> 00:59:51,668.8379755
Are we starting setting up, laying down what's going on? Yeah.
751
00:59:52,28.8379755 --> 01:00:00,398.8379755
But we figure out through what has been happening lately, where you need to go, and any feedback you've given me along the way.
752
01:00:00,758.8379755 --> 01:00:01,238.8379755
I don't know.
753
01:00:01,238.8379755 --> 01:00:04,298.8379755
I just, it feels like such a safe, trusting space.
754
01:00:04,298.8379755 --> 01:00:11,828.8379755
So the womb work that you did with me, I'm remembering it was deeply impactful and I didn't know that was a thing before I came to see you.
755
01:00:11,828.8379755 --> 01:00:19,958.8379755
But now it's something that I consider a part of me that has a voice just like the rest of me, but hadn't had a voice for a long time.
756
01:00:20,408.8379755 --> 01:00:21,518.8379755
So I don't know.
757
01:00:21,518.8379755 --> 01:00:22,928.8379755
There's, there's just so much.
758
01:00:22,928.8379755 --> 01:00:26,438.8379755
But I know we're probably at a point where it's time to start winding down.
759
01:00:26,528.8379755 --> 01:00:29,648.8379755
And I'm sorry to say that because I could talk to you all day.
760
01:00:30,188.8379755 --> 01:00:31,808.8379755
I was like, I'm fine for a few more minutes.
761
01:00:31,808.8379755 --> 01:00:32,378.8379755
We got time.
762
01:00:32,383.8379755 --> 01:00:32,584.0244184
Okay.
763
01:00:34,861.0033449 --> 01:00:38,251.0033449
So let's talk a little bit about spirituality.
764
01:00:39,211.0033449 --> 01:00:44,701.0033449
I'm thinking about what it was like the first time I laid on the mat.
765
01:00:44,941.0033449 --> 01:00:59,388.4292754
You put your hand over my abdomen and you welcomed in supports and you made it clear that any, anything that did not feel supportive wasn't welcome.
766
01:01:00,468.4292754 --> 01:01:01,758.4292754
That impacted me.
767
01:01:01,878.4292754 --> 01:01:04,848.4292754
It was the first time I'd ever heard anything like that.
768
01:01:05,238.4292754 --> 01:01:06,828.4292754
And I was curious.
769
01:01:07,98.4292754 --> 01:01:10,833.4292754
Can you say a little bit about that and why you do that and what mm-hmm.
770
01:01:10,953.4292754 --> 01:01:12,618.4292754
Where that comes from? Yeah.
771
01:01:12,708.4292754 --> 01:01:19,588.4292754
So when I was first doing my training we call it puja, which is just a prayer space.
772
01:01:20,48.4292754 --> 01:01:25,868.4292754
My first training, they did not teach me how to protect my energy when working on clients.
773
01:01:25,868.4292754 --> 01:01:31,568.4292754
So this is why it's so important to like, have a, you know, multiple trainings because everybody's teaching you something a little bit different.
774
01:01:32,93.4292754 --> 01:01:40,343.4292754
My secondary training, they taught us puja, but only in the sensation of, think of something nice for your client.
775
01:01:40,973.4292754 --> 01:01:40,983.4292754
Mm-hmm.
776
01:01:42,353.4292754 --> 01:01:51,233.4292754
And that felt fine and good and weird and just, I don't know, ironic, like why wouldn't I want something good for my client, but Sure.
777
01:01:51,413.4292754 --> 01:01:51,563.4292754
Mm-hmm.
778
01:01:52,43.4292754 --> 01:02:10,433.4292754
And when I started diving deeper into the client work, seeing people more on a regular basis, I was still working with Aveda practitioner myself, and I went to her one day and I just said, you know, my wrists are killing me.
779
01:02:10,553.4292754 --> 01:02:11,873.4292754
I just quit my job.
780
01:02:11,873.4292754 --> 01:02:27,503.4292754
Like, did I make the worst decision of my life? And she told me, she's like, well, are you trying to hold the success of your clients in your own hands? And that statement has literally stayed with me my entire practice now.
781
01:02:28,373.4292754 --> 01:02:30,893.4292754
And so puja for us.
782
01:02:30,908.4292754 --> 01:02:43,118.4292754
S at the studio has really shifted into more of a healthy boundary space, a way to connect intuitively to the body.
783
01:02:43,988.4292754 --> 01:02:49,178.4292754
And so what that looks like, and I, I'll just do my language maybe of like how I open a session.
784
01:02:49,208.4292754 --> 01:02:49,418.4292754
Yeah.
785
01:02:49,808.4292754 --> 01:02:53,408.4292754
And so I place my hand on a client's abdomen.
786
01:02:53,438.4292754 --> 01:02:55,988.4292754
If they are female, I sit on their left side.
787
01:02:55,988.4292754 --> 01:02:58,538.4292754
If they're ma male, I sit on their right side.
788
01:02:58,538.4292754 --> 01:03:00,158.4292754
That's feminine versus masculine.
789
01:03:00,758.4292754 --> 01:03:04,988.4292754
And the first touch point, honestly, is to just check their breath space.
790
01:03:05,228.4292754 --> 01:03:12,128.4292754
Like is it ragged, is it short? Is it coming to the belly? Like what's just in a quick initial touch point.
791
01:03:12,878.4292754 --> 01:03:24,978.4292754
And then I kind of close in and the language that we like to use, and Casey, my secondary use is a little bit different, but same, same, it goes allow yourself to feel the breath.
792
01:03:25,803.4292754 --> 01:03:45,363.4292754
And imagine a golden light that comes all the way around you, above and below, and allow this light to continue to expand into the entire space that we're sharing with each and every exhale, clearing anything that's been attached to you that is not meant for you.
793
01:03:46,503.4292754 --> 01:03:52,653.4292754
And then at this point, everybody has a different religion or a different belief system.
794
01:03:53,73.4292754 --> 01:03:56,133.4292754
And so usually I ask permission from the client.
795
01:03:56,133.4292754 --> 01:04:06,963.4292754
So it would just sound like, Rachel, do you allow me to call in your guides today? And depending on the client, I do have to specify because some clients are very religious, which is perfectly fine.
796
01:04:06,963.4292754 --> 01:04:09,393.4292754
We accept anybody who comes into this space.
797
01:04:09,933.4292754 --> 01:04:11,583.4292754
And sometimes they'll go, no.
798
01:04:12,243.4292754 --> 01:04:21,513.4292754
And I'm like, okay, well is there, um, any specific religious space that I can call upon you? Because whether it's Christianity or anybody else.
799
01:04:22,308.4292754 --> 01:04:24,258.4292754
They do have their own guides.
800
01:04:24,258.4292754 --> 01:04:29,778.4292754
And I think when we use that language, it freaks people out who are more in a rigid structure.
801
01:04:30,528.4292754 --> 01:04:35,988.4292754
And so whoever they allow me to call in, um, I call them in.
802
01:04:35,988.4292754 --> 01:04:38,778.4292754
So for Rachel, she's open to pretty much anything and everything.
803
01:04:39,108.4292754 --> 01:04:40,968.4292754
So what that's, and most clients are.
804
01:04:40,968.4292754 --> 01:04:52,188.4292754
But, um, so what that sounds like is I call upon Rachel's ancestors, her spirit guides, her spirit animals, and any other being willing to come into this space with love and kindness.
805
01:04:52,308.4292754 --> 01:05:02,428.4292754
And we recognize that there are certain beings here that might not have those intentions, and we just ask them to go back to where they came from or a better place than here.
806
01:05:03,328.4292754 --> 01:05:09,118.4292754
Um, because honestly, if they came from a bad place, I don't really wanna send them back there, but I just don't want them hanging out with us.
807
01:05:09,148.4292754 --> 01:05:09,298.4292754
Yeah.
808
01:05:10,18.4292754 --> 01:05:14,878.4292754
And then once we call in hers, I'm also doing this on my side.
809
01:05:14,878.4292754 --> 01:05:17,728.4292754
So like she has this golden ring around her.
810
01:05:17,818.4292754 --> 01:05:19,888.4292754
I've already had this goal to ring around myself.
811
01:05:20,323.4292754 --> 01:05:34,303.4292754
And then I call in my ancestors, my guides, and also the lineage of this practice that I'm about to present, so that it hopefully opens up a pathway for me to receive information that maybe I haven't even been taught.
812
01:05:35,713.4292754 --> 01:05:39,883.4292754
And so sometimes I pull techniques out of nowhere and I'm like, I have, I, I didn't learn that.
813
01:05:39,883.4292754 --> 01:05:40,693.4292754
I don't know where that came from.
814
01:05:40,693.4292754 --> 01:05:40,813.4292754
Yes.
815
01:05:40,873.4292754 --> 01:05:47,803.4292754
But, um, it's just the intuition of like having that support system and the goal of the puja.
816
01:05:47,803.4292754 --> 01:05:50,653.4292754
This might have gone a lot longer than it was supposed to be, but No, that's great.
817
01:05:50,653.4292754 --> 01:05:57,673.4292754
The goal of the puja is to ensure that there's not an enmeshment of practitioner and client.
818
01:05:58,153.4292754 --> 01:06:00,493.4292754
And so Rachel's in her own bubble.
819
01:06:00,493.4292754 --> 01:06:01,963.4292754
I'm in my own bubble.
820
01:06:01,963.4292754 --> 01:06:05,983.4292754
And then I like to sometimes imagine like one big bubble all the way around us.
821
01:06:05,983.4292754 --> 01:06:06,73.4292754
Mm-hmm.
822
01:06:06,343.4292754 --> 01:06:11,623.4292754
So that we can have a little bit of connectedness, but like we're not having an enmeshment.
823
01:06:11,623.4292754 --> 01:06:11,683.4292754
Yeah.
824
01:06:12,913.4292754 --> 01:06:18,313.4292754
And over the years, as I have tuned into more and more clients.
825
01:06:19,33.4292754 --> 01:06:31,63.4292754
For me, it can be a little frustrating, um, because sometimes I physically feel the sensations in my own system before a client will say something to me.
826
01:06:31,63.4292754 --> 01:07:00,433.4292754
So if I'm working on one part of the body and then I get all of a sudden a ping or like a stabbing pain in my own shoulder or head, I can go, Hey, have you been experiencing headaches this week? Or like, is that something that you experience on a normal basis? And so that's kind of where the spiritual side comes into it because there is this connectedness that I didn't want to enter when I first started this practice.
827
01:07:00,523.4292754 --> 01:07:06,43.4292754
No one taught me how to do it safely and no one taught me really what it was.
828
01:07:06,793.4292754 --> 01:07:11,143.4292754
And I can thank Casey my secondary for this point of view.
829
01:07:11,713.4292754 --> 01:07:12,913.4292754
She said that she.
830
01:07:13,363.4292754 --> 01:07:25,933.4292754
She said, you know, I'm really thankful that you taught me the way that you taught me because it has helped me move through my own practice so much more efficiently or quickly, or however she stated it.
831
01:07:26,743.4292754 --> 01:07:31,663.4292754
And it really had to, I had to take a step back and go, ah, she is so right.
832
01:07:31,663.4292754 --> 01:07:35,923.4292754
Like I took eight years of trainings and I know Rachel has the list.
833
01:07:35,923.4292754 --> 01:07:37,333.4292754
It's very extensive.
834
01:07:38,83.4292754 --> 01:07:49,933.4292754
And I gave her a little bit from each of those trainings to give her everything that she would've needed to know that I was craving to know, and that I'm still kind of navigating through.
835
01:07:50,263.4292754 --> 01:07:50,923.4292754
Yeah.
836
01:07:51,13.4292754 --> 01:08:03,43.4292754
And so the spiritual side of that is like trusting the intuition, receiving the like authenticity of like, I'm such a right brain person.
837
01:08:03,43.4292754 --> 01:08:05,143.4292754
I doubt everything in the spiritual realm.
838
01:08:05,143.4292754 --> 01:08:09,703.4292754
Like it doesn't make sense for me, and yet I'm still trying to stay open.
839
01:08:11,743.4292754 --> 01:08:12,343.4292754
Yes.
840
01:08:12,373.4292754 --> 01:08:17,113.4292754
Everything you just said resonated, but not all in the same way at the same time.
841
01:08:17,113.4292754 --> 01:08:18,583.4292754
So I'm gonna sit for a second.
842
01:08:19,273.4292754 --> 01:08:34,603.4292754
I wanna name that the puja that you started with when we first worked together, what you just shared has become a part of my practice in a way that works for me because I witnessed it with you.
843
01:08:34,603.4292754 --> 01:08:43,513.4292754
You explained it to me, and I started playing around with it because it was clear to me that my energy was very regularly intermingling with other people's energy.
844
01:08:43,933.4292754 --> 01:08:52,33.4292754
I would suddenly feel nauseous or anxious or restless in my body and I would check and feel like, wait, this isn't mine.
845
01:08:52,33.4292754 --> 01:08:54,313.4292754
I think this belongs to the person I'm sitting with.
846
01:08:54,693.4292754 --> 01:09:00,273.4292754
So that as a part of my therapy training was incredibly hmm.
847
01:09:01,747.5766677 --> 01:09:08,467.5766677
I don't think it was ever explicitly stated that I was intuitively sensing energy in other people.
848
01:09:09,67.5766677 --> 01:09:15,67.5766677
And you gave me language to understand what had already been happening in my therapeutic practice.
849
01:09:15,487.5766677 --> 01:09:57,757.5766677
But also you gave me tools to be able to use that information in a way that served people and also protect myself because I didn't know how to do that before and I didn't realize that energetic practices, rituals, language had the ability to help me in the ways that it has in, in fact, I mentioned to you earlier, I sat in my car before I came inside today, balancing my chakras welcoming in our guides and our ancestors to support us and allow the language to flow today in a way that was both gonna be helpful for our listeners, but also helpful for me and you.
850
01:09:58,627.5766677 --> 01:10:01,462.5766677
I learned that from you, so thank you, Arielle.
851
01:10:01,482.5766677 --> 01:10:01,842.5766677
Thank you.
852
01:10:01,957.5766677 --> 01:10:19,237.5766677
It's, well, that is really great to hear because I, I still feel like I am in the discovery space of what this looks like, and I can also be very grateful that I've had opportunities to connect with other practitioners, other lineages.
853
01:10:19,267.5766677 --> 01:10:42,637.5766677
Um, I go down to Oaxaca often, and so the ability to sit in a escal, which is a sweat lodge and really embrace these different traditions that other cultures have, has really opened the doorway for me to even just be comfortable sitting here today explaining this, because in the past, I probably would be a little bit more squirrely mm-hmm.
854
01:10:42,877.5766677 --> 01:10:50,317.5766677
About these conversations because I was a little afraid of prosecution, honestly.
855
01:10:50,317.5766677 --> 01:10:50,377.5766677
Yeah.
856
01:10:50,887.5766677 --> 01:10:51,517.5766677
Um.
857
01:10:51,922.5766677 --> 01:11:05,72.5766677
I know when I changed language on our website in regards to the womb ceremony because we have so many clients who are dealing with infertility and no one in the western world is talking about womb placement and things like that.
858
01:11:05,72.5766677 --> 01:11:14,492.5766677
And like, there's no guarantee that we can help with a pregnancy, but we can definitely connect and hopefully shift some things to achieve that.
859
01:11:15,2.5766677 --> 01:11:23,902.5766677
But when I changed the language on the website for womb alignment and womb therapy we just mentioned briefly like this could help.
860
01:11:23,932.5766677 --> 01:11:25,582.5766677
It didn't even say like it's a promise.
861
01:11:25,582.5766677 --> 01:11:26,812.5766677
It could just say this could help.
862
01:11:27,182.5766677 --> 01:11:33,122.5766677
I got a letter from our insurance agent saying like, we're gonna drop your insurance, you're not a doctor.
863
01:11:33,302.5766677 --> 01:11:34,292.5766677
Hmm.
864
01:11:34,682.5766677 --> 01:11:39,812.5766677
And like that was within a week of me changing the website, like who's paying attention to little old me? Yeah.
865
01:11:40,442.5766677 --> 01:11:44,522.5766677
And so that really set my nervous system of fire, of like.
866
01:11:44,882.5766677 --> 01:11:52,442.5766677
I really am passionate about this work, but like there's people out there that don't want this information known.
867
01:11:52,472.5766677 --> 01:11:52,562.5766677
Mm-hmm.
868
01:11:52,832.5766677 --> 01:11:58,742.5766677
And that's a little scary and maybe a little conspiracy theory, but like it happened.
869
01:11:58,772.5766677 --> 01:12:00,152.5766677
Yeah, Right.
870
01:12:00,152.5766677 --> 01:12:01,832.5766677
Back to the, the witch hunts.
871
01:12:02,12.5766677 --> 01:12:02,732.5766677
The witch trials.
872
01:12:02,732.5766677 --> 01:12:15,592.5766677
Like when we speak outside the bounds of what is socially accepted, we will upset some people, and then we can have our voices quieted and we don't live our truth.
873
01:12:15,592.5766677 --> 01:12:28,462.5766677
And so it's really a big deal that we're sitting here speaking so openly about this, knowing that there are risks in doing so, but there's also risks in not doing it and not sharing openly of ourselves.
874
01:12:28,462.5766677 --> 01:12:30,532.5766677
And this is an authentic space.
875
01:12:30,772.5766677 --> 01:12:37,822.5766677
So I, I so appreciate you going there with me because it was probably the one piece that I was like, I want to, but I'm not sure.
876
01:12:37,822.5766677 --> 01:12:39,172.5766677
And then we did.
877
01:12:39,172.5766677 --> 01:12:41,452.5766677
And how does it feel? It feels good.
878
01:12:41,932.5766677 --> 01:12:46,282.5766677
it makes me happy to be able to call that behavior out almost.
879
01:12:46,282.5766677 --> 01:12:56,902.5766677
Like, you're, you're not gonna bully us down and fine, I'll just change the language of how we support people, but I am, I'm not gonna just not offer it.
880
01:12:59,400.4154857 --> 01:13:16,50.4154857
You have taught me for sure to, to let go of the trying, actually to tune in, to notice when I'm trying to control that which is not within my control, and notice that, relax my grip and just, just be with the parts of myself who need support.
881
01:13:16,50.4154857 --> 01:13:18,630.4154857
And you have allowed me to bring in IFS so beautifully.
882
01:13:18,630.4154857 --> 01:13:21,750.4154857
And we've talked about how IFS and NARM have similarities Yes.
883
01:13:21,840.4154857 --> 01:13:26,970.4154857
Differences NARM again, being the neuro affective relational model, which has so much value.
884
01:13:26,970.4154857 --> 01:13:28,140.4154857
But I don't know.
885
01:13:28,140.4154857 --> 01:13:32,310.4154857
I just, I could talk to you forever, but you have to go and so do I.
886
01:13:32,405.4154857 --> 01:13:32,565.4154857
Yes.
887
01:13:32,570.4154857 --> 01:13:34,170.4154857
So I'm gonna let you go now.
888
01:13:34,170.4154857 --> 01:13:39,420.4154857
Thank you so, so much for your time and your energy, Arielle, your presence, your spirit, everything.
889
01:13:39,570.4154857 --> 01:13:39,990.4154857
Thank you.
890
01:13:40,140.4154857 --> 01:13:41,100.4154857
You are so welcome.
891
01:13:41,160.4154857 --> 01:13:42,750.4154857
It was a pleasure being here today.
892
01:13:43,260.4154857 --> 01:13:43,650.4154857
Yay.
893
01:13:44,70.4154857 --> 01:13:44,610.4154857
All right.
894
01:13:45,480.4154857 --> 01:13:46,350.4154857
Take care everyone.
