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00:00:02.963Here we are, episode two of Ash and Iron.
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00:00:08.872I've got an incredible guest with me today, and it's Mr Dwayne Maddox Dwayne.
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00:00:10.335Thanks for being on the show.
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00:00:12.526My pleasure man, I'm glad to do it.
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00:00:15.303So I'm going to get right into it.
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00:00:22.192I want to just first start off by asking you how would you describe yourself to someone who's never met you before?
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00:00:25.376That's a tough one.
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00:00:34.334I'm a very self-driven, motivated person.
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00:00:36.648I am the typical engineer.
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00:00:48.633I am sure if I were born in a later date they'd say I'm on the spectrum, because the things you think of with a typical engineer, that's me.
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00:01:01.874But I also, you know, most of my life I've had a love affair with metal, so lifting it, welding it, blacksmithing and forging with it.
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00:01:04.768Most of my life has been around steel.
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00:01:09.891Okay, and so, like with your love for engineering, like, where did that come from?
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00:01:12.447You know, I think engineers are born.
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00:01:19.471You just, even at a young age, you know I'd have to have things a certain way.
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00:01:24.328I'd have to know why I can't just change things around.
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00:01:30.445It doesn't work in my mind and you know things that they give people medicine for now.
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00:01:37.105That's just the way I was growing up and it translates very well into the engineering field.
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00:01:42.623And did you have a certain person in your life that kind of inspired?
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00:01:46.141Nobody around me was an engineer.
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00:01:53.515My father was an electrician, my brother went into work in manufacturing.
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00:02:00.111No, there was nobody in around it and that's why I say I think engineers are born.
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00:02:04.501We are just one tick away from being autistic.
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00:02:06.923You know, we're very close to that.
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00:02:19.008I actually have friends in the family and their son has Asperger's, which is a form of autism, and it's funny because he and I get along great.
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00:02:31.514A lot of the same things that he has, I believe I have to a lesser degree, so I can really understand him perfectly well.
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00:02:35.956I don't have any problem with the way he does things, so there's something there.
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00:02:37.777But yeah, I think engineers are born.
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00:02:40.442It's almost like an illness.
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00:02:48.129Do you have a specific time that you can look back on where you realize, man, I just don't think the same way as everyone around me.
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00:03:09.527No, not that I can think of, it's just always been that way, and even when I was younger I've been accused of being too logical about things not real heavy on the emotion side, and when I do it's usually ugly.
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00:03:13.269So I tend to stay away from that type of thing.
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00:03:13.790Yeah.
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00:03:15.002I get that All right.
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00:03:17.008So what was young Dwayne Maddox like?
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00:03:18.665Oh, I was a big old nerd.
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00:03:25.646People look at me now and they see the tattoos and size and everything and they don't seem to believe it.
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00:03:27.508But I was the biggest nerd.
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00:03:32.211I read comic books, watched nothing but sci-fi.
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00:03:35.907I was really big on reading.
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00:03:41.149I started reading oh, I was reading when I went into first grade.
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00:03:43.906As a matter of fact a funny story.
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00:03:46.855So my father was in the Air Force.
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00:03:48.039I went into first grade as a matter of fact, a funny story.
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00:03:54.731So my father was in the Air Force and I went to school on an Air Force base and I don't remember what it was.
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00:04:12.282A teacher asked us about a word or something and this particular base had bombers at it.
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00:04:13.586So that'll give you a little background when I get to this.
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00:04:20.786But the word and the phrase that I was talking about was radioactive and of course the first grade teacher wants to know why.
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00:04:26.470I, as a first grader, understand what the word radioactive is.
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00:04:36.189So they end up calling my dad in from work and someone from his work was with him and they're like what have you been telling your son?
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00:04:36.680He's.
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00:04:38.788I've never said anything about that.
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00:04:48.447So they start and ask me and I'm like yeah, it's in Spider-Man, like what yeah, spider-man comic, he got bit by a radioactive spider.
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00:04:54.906So then I had to go look up what radioactive meant so I could understand the comic book and that was my new word.
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00:04:59.793But yeah, I guess they thought I was stealing secrets or something in first grade.
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00:05:06.920That's awesome and it's funny too, like for a lot of the younger viewers.
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00:05:25.514like looking it up back then was like encyclopedia botanica yeah, absolutely, that's what I looked it up in yeah, and it's so cool, so all right, I'm intrigued now about this, uh, this nerdy side of dwayne maddox here for those of you who aren't here like and can't see him this guy's got a mohawk, a big-ass beard.
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00:05:27.968He's jacked, covered in tattoos.
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00:05:33.172Does not look like a guy who is going to nerd out over some comic books.
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00:05:37.569So what was the first comic book you ever read?
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00:05:42.182Oh, lord, lord.
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00:05:56.428If it wasn't an early Spider-Man, like maybe Spider-Man 3 or 4 right in there, it was probably Fantastic Four.
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00:06:00.091Oh, early ones, I mean early ones, these were.
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00:06:04.553I can remember buying them for a dime.
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00:06:07.755Wow, yeah, the Tencent comics.
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00:06:09.375I haven't seen them personally.
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00:06:12.538Yeah, I remember seeing images of that.
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00:06:16.903And my brother's, seven years older than me.
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00:06:25.670So when he got too big for comics, in his words, he just kind of passed them down to me and I read through what he had, which were even older.
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00:06:30.430So yeah, I was hooked on that at a very young age.
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00:06:36.872One of I can remember my mother asked a counselor at the school.
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00:06:40.843She was concerned about me reading comics.
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00:06:49.324Yeah.
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00:06:54.504So that's so cool and then all right.
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00:06:56.209So what about current day?
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00:06:57.052Like, do you still?
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00:07:02.432Do you have any shows or any sort of comics or books that you like to read now?
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00:07:10.074comics or books that you like to read.
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00:07:11.480Now, I don't watch much TV rarely.
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00:07:15.903There's just too much crap on there that I just can't get along with these days.
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00:07:23.471Yeah, I don't do comics because I go through them too quick and when they're like two bucks a book and they last me a couple of minutes.
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00:07:26.735But I do read a lot.
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00:07:32.190Typically I'll read a full book every couple of days.
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00:07:52.526Okay, I'm one of those people if I don't care how tired I am or how late, I have to have at least like a half hour to read before I go to sleep and while I'm waking up in the morning I'll read for a half hour or so whenever I get a break, and most of mine, I'd say all of mine.
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00:08:03.528Sometimes I'll read history I was always fascinated with the conquerors but it's usually fantasy or science fiction.
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00:08:05.545Okay, stuff that I can't do.
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00:08:09.548You know, if it's stuff I can do, then I'll go do it.
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00:08:10.903I'll read about it, you know.
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00:08:12.790Yeah, well, all right.
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00:08:18.672So what is your all-time favorite fantasy book or sci-fi book?
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00:08:19.593Oh, this will get you.
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00:08:24.612So Dragon Riders of Pern is absolutely my favorite.
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00:08:40.215It was written by a lady named Annie McCaffrey she's passed now but she was a genius and it's one of those books that it keeps you guessing and figuring out the long game.
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00:08:54.522It starts out making you think it's like a medieval age time frame, with dragons introduced, and by the time you get done with the series you find out it's actually a science fiction about interstellar travel.
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00:08:55.443Oh, that's cool.
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00:08:57.990It keeps you moving through that whole range.
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00:09:03.104It's amazing book, it's a classic you ever get to send me the link to that so I can check it out.
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00:09:03.825Yeah there's.
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00:09:11.635I think there's like 12 or 13 in the series, I believe, but it's outstanding books.
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00:09:16.432Did you ever read any of like the Dragonlance novels, or not so much?
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00:09:19.931Yeah, I did read some, but none of them come to mind.
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00:09:23.725That's, I'd say, the Pern series.
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00:09:26.712That and I was always hooked on Dune.
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00:09:31.269That was a big one at a young age.
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00:09:32.201Did you hear?
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00:09:35.307You saw that they remade that into like a film recently.
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00:09:35.967Yeah, I've seen them.
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00:09:37.410Okay, was that one any good?
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00:09:39.153They're not bad, they're not bad.
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00:09:48.855That world of Dune is so big and so immersive it's very hard to capture that on film.
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00:09:54.993So this last one they didn't do bad because of the advances in CGI and stuff.
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00:09:58.070I think they got as close as they could for a movie.
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00:10:00.625And I'll bet you too, the way that your brain operates.
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00:10:04.133It's like seeing those kind of special effects and things.
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00:10:05.860I bet that just intrigues you, doesn't it?
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00:10:08.008trying to figure out how they did this or that.
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00:10:19.094Yeah, absolutely, um, but yeah, those two were were my big reads back then and you know, in school of course they're not gonna let you have comics.
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00:10:26.957So the closest I could get to that, like when I had to go to the library or something, would have been mythology.
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00:10:27.940Oh, okay.
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00:10:41.153You know shit, you got Thor Odin, all the other different mythologies, so that got me more hooked on history and that took up a lot of my brain space growing up.
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00:10:42.115That's fun.
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00:10:47.532I feel like it's a form of escapism in some ways, too Absolutely.
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00:10:50.227You know, it's like I'm tired of all of this around me.
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00:10:56.613Let me read about some dragons and spells and that kind of stuff, and I've always been gravitated towards that as well.
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00:11:04.133I'm curious you were talking about growing up on a military base.
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00:11:06.926You were talking about growing up on a military base.
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00:11:07.707What is that like?
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00:11:09.913I've obviously never grown up on one.
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00:11:12.644I've been to a couple.
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00:11:12.964Is that?
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00:11:16.572It's a, you know, I guess it's a lot like anywhere else.
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00:11:22.389It's just and we didn't.
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00:11:24.018I didn't know any different.
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00:11:32.143But when you're living on base, everything is military right.
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00:11:47.475The only police you see are military police and so, with my dad being in the air force, they have pretty good location for their bases air force got it, but they have nice spots for it, so it was always pretty.
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00:11:49.384You know pretty good locations.
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00:11:55.403You always had people around to get other kids if you're going to play or do whatever.
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00:12:01.222Yeah, it kind of indoctrinated you into the military at birth almost.
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00:12:04.029And then did you move a lot because of that.
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00:12:04.993We did.
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00:12:12.100I was actually born in a little town called Irvine, scotland, okay.
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00:12:41.294So my father was stationed, I think he worked at Lockerbie Air Force Base and we lived I guess the midwife's home was in a little town called Irvine, which is on the coast, I think the west coast in Scotland, and we were there I believe I was three or almost, maybe four, when we moved back.
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00:12:43.966So it's kind of funny.
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00:12:48.642Were when we moved back, so it's kind of funny.
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00:12:59.264We had a nanny that watched a lot of the kids my age and when I came back stateside I had a strong Scottish accent I was told and you know that doesn't go over big with kids.
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00:13:02.552So I took a lot of teasing when I first came back.
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00:13:05.024I was sitting here looking at you going.
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00:13:08.211What would Dwayne sound like today if he had a Scottish?
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00:13:08.472accent.
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00:13:10.187I couldn't do it if I had to now.
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00:13:17.254But yeah, they said I had a strong Scottish accent then that's cool.
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00:13:21.110So I see your tattoos.
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00:13:23.889You're covered on both your arms there.
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00:13:27.428What do tattoos represent for you?
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00:13:32.652Well, you know, of course, on my left arm is, I guess what you would call a tribal.
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00:13:34.322That's just one.
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00:13:36.186I enjoyed the pattern, thought it looked good.
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00:13:40.662The ones on my right arm I've done for my family.
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00:13:50.523So on my shoulder I've got a raven, which to me that symbolizes my wife and her spirit and the way she is.
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00:13:55.171Below it I've got a warrior's helmet under a skull.
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00:14:07.802So that's kind of my thoughts of me, like the aging warrior, and you know we all look toward our death and you know we all look toward our death.
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00:14:09.085I've had a lot of close brushes with death below it.
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00:14:14.864About three and a half years ago I had an amazing introduction to my life and my granddaughter was born.
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00:14:15.966Oh, that's awesome.
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00:14:22.784Her name's luna, luna catherine, so you know a moon and a tiger, so lunar and cat.
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00:14:32.153And then she's always been a character, but for way too long she wanted us to feed her and she would sit there with her mouth open.
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00:14:43.051And that plus the fact that I think for the first two years of her life her hair stuck up in the middle, so she looked like one of those cockatoo birds.
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00:14:47.870So since she was born I've been calling her Little Bird.
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00:14:53.975So there's a little bird in the mountain there, and then, of course, on my hand, I've got a demon.
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00:14:58.086There you go, and for me, that just you know.
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00:15:06.393We all fight our demons, yeah, and it keeps it in my mind that I need to keep fighting my demons.
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00:15:12.028We'll go ahead and touch on that for a second.
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00:15:15.711What do you think is a life lesson that you had to learn the hard way?
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00:15:20.289Oh God, I'm still learning a lot of hard life lessons.
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00:15:34.268That's a really tough one, I think, for me something I kind of prize.
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00:15:53.373Anyway, you know, as a man you have to have your word and there's so many people nowadays that whatever they say just doesn't have a lot of weight to it, because if anything gets a little bit tough they're gone or they'll do something else.
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00:16:05.875You know, and when I'm gone I promise you people will say, hey, he might have been an ass, but if he told you he was going to do something he'd do it.
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00:16:12.090I'll be the first one to say it yeah, and you know that's important to me.
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00:16:16.970Yeah, my grandfather probably brought that out in me.
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00:16:19.327But your word is your bond.
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00:16:31.885You do it, do it.
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00:16:34.980My time in the military helped I credit that with helping me with having good self-discipline.
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00:16:38.000My wife even says of course she loves me.
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00:16:38.481So she has to be biased.
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00:16:44.870But she says I'm the most disciplined person she knows, and that's disciplined with myself, you know.
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00:16:54.993So if I'm feeling bad or feeling a little sick or something and there's something I have to do, I'm still going to do it.
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00:16:58.023You know you just do it and go through.
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00:16:59.445You can be sick when you're dead.
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00:17:14.386I got to a point over a little over a year ago I got I was probably weighing in about 215 pounds and it was not all muscle.
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00:17:25.128So I looked at myself and I said, well, that's gonna go, and you know I'm 60 years old, so it's not that easy at this age.
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00:17:29.070But I said in three months I'm going to lose 40 pounds.
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00:17:33.529In three months I had lost 55 pounds.
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00:17:35.868So I went a little overboard.
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00:17:40.526But you know, when I set myself to do something, I'm either going to do it or there's a major reason why not.
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00:17:44.851You know I'm either going to do it or there's a major reason why not, you know.
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00:18:03.022And I think you sharing that too touches on like a bigger, like cultural point that I see a lot in our current society, where it's like people don't want to do what's hard, people don't want to experience discomfort for the sake of, like, some form of gain or success.
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00:18:09.909People's, people's word don't mean anything I shouldn't say everyone, but a large percentage.
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00:18:12.086What do you think causes that?
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00:18:18.451Well, in my mind, it's the people, my age, it's our fault.
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00:18:25.327We wanted to make things so much better or easier for the kids we're raising.
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00:18:30.935We forgot to add in repercussions for actions.
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00:18:42.950A lot of us, you know, gen Xers we're called the feral generation for a reason, and I believe we went too far the other way.
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00:18:46.676And I believe we went too far the other way.
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00:18:53.922Too many of these kids, you know they started coming out with the gentle parenting and all that horse shit.
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00:19:00.046Too many of these young men nowadays have grown all the way to adulthood and they've never been punched in the face, not once.
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00:19:01.346They're missing out.
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00:19:03.107I can't imagine what that's like.
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00:19:12.954Some of the best friends I had in high school were after we had had a knockdown, drag out, fight yeah, you know, bleeding tooth coming loose.
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00:19:16.356But if they do that nowadays they're going to jail.
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00:19:20.142Yeah, they'll call the police, arrest them.
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00:19:25.089When I got into something like that in school, teacher might look at you and go are you finished?
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00:19:26.152And that was it.
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00:19:27.534It was over, yeah.
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00:19:39.884So too many people do not have or they don't stand up to the repercussions for their actions.
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00:19:46.275And I think online, as great as the internet is, the online and social media has magnified that.
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00:19:56.029I would agree with that, because you can say stupid shit, you can call people names, you can do whatever, but if you were in front of that person face-to-face, you wouldn't dream of it.
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00:19:56.411Yeah.
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00:19:59.401You know, and again I think that results.
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00:20:03.643That is a result from too many people not getting smacked in the face.
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00:20:05.282That is a result from too many people not getting smacked in the face.
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00:20:16.888You know, it's interesting because I feel like that would have the tendency to kind of go back and forth generationally, right, because if you're easy on your kids then they grow up going.
00:20:16.888 -->
00:20:18.288Man, I had it too easy on me.
00:20:18.288 -->
00:20:25.212I need to be tough on my kids because I know what I got away with and it would seem like that would be a potential cycle.
00:20:25.613 -->
00:20:29.013But if you look at, I think some of the younger ones are getting a little harder.
00:20:29.013 -->
00:20:37.959I mean, you hear some of these words and stuff coming back that typically have been, you know, taboo, oh, like badass yeah.
00:20:37.959 -->
00:20:45.448Well, I hear a lot of them saying the retard again, and for a while that was, you couldn't come close to that.
00:20:45.448 -->
00:20:53.202You know I've heard them calling each other fag and you couldn't say that the last what 10 years?
00:20:53.202 -->
00:20:54.528Or they would ostracize you.
00:20:54.528 -->
00:20:58.048So I think they're starting to toughen up a little more.
00:20:58.430 -->
00:20:58.912And you know it's.
00:20:58.912 -->
00:20:59.762It's interesting.
00:20:59.762 -->
00:21:04.170You said that too because and I could I could be wrong, I only speak for myself.
00:21:04.170 -->
00:21:14.733But a lot of times whenever I was younger and we'd call each other retarded and all that, it's like nobody ever like not even for a second thought about somebody with a mental disorder.
00:21:14.834 -->
00:21:18.164Oh lord, you know what I mean like we were just messing with your buddy.
00:21:18.164 -->
00:21:25.186You know and and we'll probably get in trouble for this man when we were young, call someone a fag.
00:21:25.186 -->
00:21:27.988You didn't think they were homosexual.
00:21:27.988 -->
00:21:28.882That never.
00:21:28.882 -->
00:21:31.250Most of the time you didn't even know what the hell it meant.
00:21:31.400 -->
00:21:36.532It was just an insult to get somebody you know pissed off, Get them riled up so they can get punched in the face.
00:21:36.532 -->
00:21:37.359So they grow up decent.
00:21:37.681 -->
00:21:44.134Well, and that's you know, people don't realize they're trying to make things better.
00:21:44.134 -->
00:21:51.633Most young men can't handle just sitting in a room going to class.
00:21:51.633 -->
00:22:09.748The reason they have these outbursts, you know, and everybody's wondering why we have schoolroom shootings and all that I think a lot of that crap is because you're not letting them be men, you're not letting them be boys, right, especially in high school.
00:22:09.748 -->
00:22:14.878They're starting to get flooded with more testosterone than a damn bull shark has.
00:22:14.878 -->
00:22:26.833There's got to be a way to get that out, and if they don't have any way to come out, it's going to come out on its own, and that's when you get them doing stupid shit.
00:22:26.833 -->
00:22:29.770Yeah, because they're literally not in their right mind.
00:22:30.413 -->
00:22:31.075You know it's interesting.
00:22:31.075 -->
00:22:36.958You said that I heard a gentleman yesterday and again I don't know how true this is, don't quote this.
00:22:36.958 -->
00:22:51.074Everybody listening don't quote this but I heard him saying that 100% of all school shootings that the shooter was taking some form of pharmaceutical that had a side effect of violence.
00:22:51.074 -->
00:22:51.695I've heard that.
00:22:51.695 -->
00:22:53.751Yeah, it's like what?
00:22:53.751 -->
00:22:55.805Like 100%.
00:22:56.165 -->
00:22:58.795Yeah, and you know it concerns me.
00:22:58.795 -->
00:23:05.673I have no doubt the way I was growing up, I was an angry little shit most of the time.
00:23:05.673 -->
00:23:07.928They probably.
00:23:07.928 -->
00:23:13.875I don't know if my mother would have let them, but growing up in a family today they probably would have medicated me.
00:23:13.875 -->
00:23:20.125You just have to find a way to release that, you know.
00:23:20.125 -->
00:23:36.776Thank goodness I met somebody at a younger age that was teaching martial arts and my mother was smart enough to see that I needed some kind of outlet and she felt me getting beat up a little bit was a good thing.
00:23:36.776 -->
00:23:41.734And there I did, and that helped me to focus a little more.
00:23:41.984 -->
00:23:43.029What kind of martial arts did you take?
00:23:43.029 -->
00:23:45.392So I started out it was just karate.
00:23:45.392 -->
00:23:53.386Okay, what we call karate now it's actually kung fu Chinese.
00:23:53.386 -->
00:23:55.535Karate is really Japanese.
00:23:55.535 -->
00:24:04.219So most of what everybody calls karate now is Kung Fu from the Chinese martial arts.
00:24:04.219 -->
00:24:10.157But there was a TV series out when I was younger called Kung Fu with David Carradine.
00:24:10.157 -->
00:24:15.477So nobody wanted to be confused with that TV series and all that.
00:24:15.477 -->
00:24:17.772So they just called it karate.
00:24:17.772 -->
00:24:20.070But it started with that.
00:24:20.070 -->
00:24:26.417I got all the way up to a black belt and then went into the military.
00:24:26.417 -->
00:24:35.837I trained some in Japanese Bushido while I was in service and then did some jujitsu afterwards.
00:24:36.038 -->
00:24:39.363Now is Bushido, while I was in service and then did some Jiu-Jitsu afterwards.
00:24:39.383 -->
00:24:39.843Now is Bushido.
00:24:39.843 -->
00:24:40.664Is that like sword fighting?
00:24:40.664 -->
00:24:50.579That's the top of it, yes, but it's Bushido's very good about balance and you know more about the flow of fighting.
00:24:50.579 -->
00:24:58.854It was the only thing available at the time where I was at, but it taught me a lot more than I thought it would.
00:25:00.268 -->
00:25:03.305When I was younger I took martial arts for a short while.
00:25:03.305 -->
00:25:08.868I was in a form of martial arts called Bondo actually, and it's spelled B-A-N-D-O.
00:25:08.868 -->
00:25:25.897I wasn't in it too long, but it was more of like a very strong stance, bruiser kind of martial art, or at least that was my interpretation of it when I was younger, because I was small and everybody seemed bigger than me.
00:25:25.897 -->
00:25:27.550So it may not have been that at all.
00:25:27.550 -->
00:25:32.796But as I've gotten older I've talked to my girls.
00:25:32.796 -->
00:25:36.952I've got three little girls, as you know, and I'm like dude jujitsu.
00:25:36.952 -->
00:25:41.403I agree, it's like if I could put them in anything, I'd put them in jujitsu.
00:25:41.766 -->
00:25:47.337I definitely want my granddaughter to take jujitsu 100%.
00:25:48.227 -->
00:25:53.298And then for everyone listening right now that doesn't know what jujitsu is like, will you explain that to them?
00:25:53.785 -->
00:26:00.441Well, jujitsu is a grappling art, so probably the most renowned practitioners are the Gracies.
00:26:00.441 -->
00:26:18.277The Gracies, yeah, they brought everything out, but especially if you have the length, it doesn't take the serious muscles that actually hurts you some in that, but it is in a really super advanced form of grappling.
00:26:18.277 -->
00:26:22.375It's used leverage to attack weak points on the body.
00:26:23.204 -->
00:26:23.404And it's.
00:26:23.404 -->
00:26:30.226I would say it gives you the best fighting chance against someone that's bigger than you, absolutely yeah and it is a.
00:26:30.246 -->
00:26:32.655I think you know I hate to quote other people, but Joe Rogan said it's a human, absolutely yeah and uh, it is a.
00:26:32.655 -->
00:26:36.289I think you know I hate to quote other people, but Joe Rogan said it's a human chess.
00:26:36.289 -->
00:26:42.511Yeah, that's probably one of the best things, cause you're thinking two or three moves in advance.
00:26:42.511 -->
00:26:52.019If I do this and he counters with this, then I can do this and I'm going to end him, or you know what's what's interesting about that statement, though, is it's only human, human chess.
00:26:52.159 -->
00:26:54.904If there are two people that know jiu-jitsu, that's right.
00:26:54.904 -->
00:27:10.659If it's one person who's just aggravated and they don't know anything versus somebody who's skilled in jiu-jitsu, it's a one-sided fight, even if you're kind of a beginner you know a lot of people walk around day to day and like, well, I'd whip his ass.
00:27:11.265 -->
00:27:12.730They've never been in a fight in their life.
00:27:12.730 -->
00:27:17.069You know they think, well, yeah, he's not going to tell me I'm going to bust him.
00:27:17.069 -->
00:27:23.936If they come across someone that has any kind of training, you're going to lose, yeah.
00:27:24.017 -->
00:27:24.538That quick.
00:27:24.538 -->
00:27:43.550It's interesting that you said that, because when I was in Bondo, I remember getting into a fight at school and forgot everything the second that fight started, because it was like I just went into, like adrenaline pumping, like I'm not even that's what most people do yeah, and it would be different.
00:27:43.611 -->
00:27:54.055Now I think that I'm older, like I'd be a little less adrenaline filled, but you know, when you're in middle school or high school, you know it's like all you can think of is your heart's racing and you're like I'm trying to hurt somebody.
00:27:54.486 -->
00:27:57.051And when all you can hear is your heart thumping.
00:27:57.051 -->
00:28:06.750You're not thinking, you're just reacting, which means if that other person's able to control that, you've lost they control you.
00:28:07.345 -->
00:28:13.469You know I I won that fight, but it wasn't the way that I wanted to win, he must not have been trained either.
00:28:13.469 -->
00:28:15.789Well, when he hit me, he hit me so hard.
00:28:15.789 -->
00:28:20.026I spun around and hit him with a back fist accidentally, and then he stopped hitting me.
00:28:20.026 -->
00:28:21.851He was like, damn, he has good reactions.
00:28:21.851 -->
00:28:23.635And I I was like how did that just happen?
00:28:23.635 -->
00:28:26.029Like I didn't even mean to, he just hit me so hard.
00:28:26.029 -->
00:28:29.605I just spun around and hit him and he was like, oh, it stunned him.
00:28:29.625 -->
00:28:30.386He was kind of like.
00:28:30.386 -->
00:28:39.278You know, it's funny the way you mention that when you've trained enough and you're successful, you don't really think about a lot of it.
00:28:39.278 -->
00:28:43.986It is reactions, your body goes into muscle memory.
00:28:44.026 -->
00:28:44.726Did you watch?
00:28:44.726 -->
00:28:46.207Do you watch any of the UFC stuff?
00:28:46.207 -->
00:28:50.230Oh yeah, did you watch when Max Holloway knocked out Justin Gaethje?
00:28:50.631 -->
00:28:51.891I did not see that one.
00:28:52.291 -->
00:29:06.682Oh my Lord, those are two damn warriors there, Bro yeah, it was so crazy because in the first, I believe it was in the first round Somebody's going to correct me in the comments, but I believe it was in the first round right as the bells getting ready to ring.
00:29:06.682 -->
00:29:12.432And this is so crazy to watch Like I'll have to pull it up after this and I'll show you.
00:29:12.432 -->
00:29:14.580But the um, what do they call the?
00:29:14.580 -->
00:29:24.881The commission opened up the gate to the octagon to go in as the bell was ringing because the fighters were over here and they thought clear, let's just go ahead and get in there, right.
00:29:25.604 -->
00:29:40.576Well, right before the bell rang, max holloway does a spinning back kick as justin gaethje dips his head down and lands it right square on his nose, breaks his nose, but it knocks him backwards and when the commission opens up the gate, he starts going out of the octagon.
00:29:40.576 -->
00:29:45.471It was like, oh my gosh, just almost, and that was how round one ended.
00:29:45.471 -->
00:29:50.164So from the rest of the fight, max just continued to just like dominate, and that's crazy.
00:29:50.164 -->
00:29:55.428That's saying a lot when you're beating Justin Gaethje like that, because Justin Gaethje is double tough.
00:29:55.448 -->
00:29:58.509Dude, so durable and very.
00:29:58.509 -->
00:29:59.190You know.
00:29:59.190 -->
00:29:59.891Here's what's weird.
00:29:59.891 -->
00:30:08.796My perception of Justin Gaethje was that he was just like a punching bag, but somehow he would win.
00:30:08.796 -->
00:30:10.696But I didn't realize how good he was.
00:30:10.696 -->
00:30:11.396No, he is outstanding.
00:30:11.396 -->
00:30:16.480And whenever I went back and I started looking at his fights, the thing that shocked me was his record.
00:30:16.480 -->
00:30:19.201It's like wait, he's only lost like four fights.
00:30:19.201 -->
00:30:20.942I was like I don't know why.
00:30:20.942 -->
00:30:22.143I thought he lost a lot.
00:30:23.085 -->
00:30:23.525And it's like no he is.
00:30:23.545 -->
00:30:25.626I think Max has lost more than he has.
00:30:25.626 -->
00:30:29.750I would say they're probably even at this point, if not a few more.
00:30:30.111 -->
00:30:33.034Max Holloway went through a period there.
00:30:33.034 -->
00:30:38.357I don't know if it was his training camp or who, but he lost quite a bit.
00:30:38.458 -->
00:30:40.640It was all Volkanovski In a group there.
00:30:40.640 -->
00:30:41.601Oh yeah.
00:30:41.641 -->
00:30:42.701That guy's a savage.
00:30:42.701 -->
00:30:47.065Yeah, that's another.
00:30:47.065 -->
00:30:49.215You don't lose any pride losing to him.
00:30:49.215 -->
00:30:50.402He is a badass.
00:30:51.705 -->
00:30:55.855Yeah, I remember watching the earlier UFCs, like UFC 1.
00:30:55.855 -->
00:30:59.753Yeah, like with my uncle Hoist.
00:30:59.794 -->
00:31:00.154Gracie.
00:31:00.405 -->
00:31:02.733Dude, they were allowed to kick each other in the face.
00:31:02.733 -->
00:31:04.691Oh yeah, punch each other in the nuts.
00:31:04.730 -->
00:31:05.535You could hit butt.
00:31:05.744 -->
00:31:07.311Yeah, it was crazy.
00:31:07.885 -->
00:31:09.605Grab him by the hair Like I was.
00:31:09.605 -->
00:31:10.046Just like that is.
00:31:10.046 -->
00:31:11.608Yeah, they kicked a down opponent.
00:31:11.608 -->
00:31:14.252Yeah, it was a fight then.
00:31:14.252 -->
00:31:16.296Yeah, they called it.
00:31:16.296 -->
00:31:18.460That's why it got banned off TV.
00:31:18.460 -->
00:31:24.798They called it human cockfighting.
00:31:24.798 -->
00:31:36.035I remember hearing that One of the politician's wives she went, you know, stumping to try and get it removed and it was banned off TV for quite a while.
00:31:37.459 -->
00:31:48.493Yeah, I heard an interview where Dana White was actually talking about how, in those early days, like when he first started taking it over, like nobody would let him use the venue to like host their fights.
00:31:48.513 -->
00:31:50.849Yeah, Cause he couldn't televise it.
00:31:51.090 -->
00:31:51.271Yeah.
00:31:51.271 -->
00:31:54.568And then Donald trump actually was like yeah, I got, I'll let you.
00:31:54.568 -->
00:31:57.459I think he let him do it at the uh trump.
00:31:57.459 -->
00:32:03.921He did yeah at the trump center or trump hotel or trump tower, yeah, and I thought that was crazy and that's.
00:32:04.241 -->
00:32:05.085You know, dana white.
00:32:05.085 -->
00:32:09.178Uh, they, it's funny when people try to give him shit.
00:32:09.178 -->
00:32:12.374But they try to give him shit about sporting donald trump.
00:32:12.374 -->
00:32:16.211He's like he told that story and he said yeah, I'll support him.
00:32:16.211 -->
00:32:21.112You're damn right, you don't like that, fuck you well, you know, we're just that straight with it.
00:32:21.352 -->
00:32:46.791It's interesting that you said that too, because I feel like back in the day, like, uh, politics, religion, like certain things like that, like your sexual orientation, like that was the stuff you kind of kept to yourself, yeah, and I think, because of social media, like we feel obligated to share everything we do with everyone, and I say we, but I mean like just the general public, I think now my opinion for what it's worth.
00:32:47.133 -->
00:32:49.659Sure, too many of them.
00:32:49.659 -->
00:32:58.272It's this damn victim mentality and they want to be part of that special group, but they don't want to do something special to get it.
00:32:58.272 -->
00:33:09.636So if I tell people I have a different sexuality, or if I have this, or you know I had some childhood trauma, well shit, that's life.
00:33:10.144 -->
00:33:23.095You know, the first thing I know about you should not be who you choose to sleep with, right, personally, as long as you're sleeping with a consenting adult, I could not give a shit less.
00:33:23.095 -->
00:33:26.119Who you choose to be with, that's up to you.
00:33:26.119 -->
00:33:29.714It's not my thing, but if you enjoy it, you do you.
00:33:30.005 -->
00:33:31.571I feel like that's the majority of people.
00:33:31.704 -->
00:33:37.160Yeah, but I shouldn't know right off that you're gay or whatever.
00:33:37.160 -->
00:33:38.865That has nothing.
00:33:38.865 -->
00:33:42.653I don't care what you're doing, I don't want to know about any of that.
00:33:42.653 -->
00:33:46.836That shouldn't be the biggest thing in your whole identity.
00:33:48.227 -->
00:33:49.731That is the key, right there.
00:33:49.731 -->
00:33:58.451Identity, oh yeah, everyone wants to fit in somewhere, and I think that they label themselves as I'm this, I'm.
00:33:58.451 -->
00:34:02.465I'm a republican, I'm a democrat, I'm a homosexual, I'm a whatever.
00:34:02.465 -->
00:34:03.868So they can belong.
00:34:03.868 -->
00:34:10.365And if you join a side, then you obviously have opposition I think it's even further than that.
00:34:10.905 -->
00:34:15.889a lot of them, especially, you know, the gay and lesbian community.
00:34:15.889 -->
00:34:27.777I've known some gay and lesbian and the ones that I get along with, that's just what they do at home.
00:34:27.777 -->
00:34:32.501It's not smacking you in the face every minute of it, you know.
00:34:32.501 -->
00:34:34.523It's not every part of their being.
00:34:34.523 -->
00:34:45.356I think a lot of them nowadays want to be part of that little protected class, like if they come out and say they're bisexual, well then you're not allowed to pick on them.
00:34:45.356 -->
00:34:47.088I'd get over it.
00:34:47.088 -->
00:34:48.690So many picks on you, pick back.
00:34:48.690 -->
00:34:50.371Quit being a little bitch.
00:34:51.706 -->
00:34:52.929Dude, I got picked on a lot.
00:34:52.929 -->
00:34:54.414I was small, so a lot I was small, so did I.
00:34:54.414 -->
00:34:57.554I was so small, I think I weighed 120 pounds when I married my wife.
00:34:57.554 -->
00:34:58.869I don't know why she married me.
00:34:59.304 -->
00:35:04.931When I went into the Army I was right at six foot tall and 130 pounds.
00:35:04.931 -->
00:35:06.913I was as big around as a minute.
00:35:06.913 -->
00:35:15.829I had to go in under a special waiver saying that I would gain because to go in under a special waiver saying that I would gain X because I was underweight.
00:35:15.829 -->
00:35:29.681And in basic training the drill sergeant would go through the lunch line with me and while everybody else was bitching that they didn't get enough to eat, he'd tell the lunch ladies there he's like no two of those.
00:35:29.681 -->
00:35:30.545More potatoes, more beans.
00:35:30.704 -->
00:35:31.951We got to get this boy in shape.
00:35:32.644 -->
00:35:40.257And I had to sit right next to his grumpy ass and if I just slowed down to breathe, he's like eat boy, You're too damn skinny Eat.
00:35:40.257 -->
00:35:45.434And I just shoveled food until I was sick of it, you know yeah.
00:35:46.195 -->
00:35:47.998It worked, yeah Well, all right.
00:35:47.998 -->
00:35:55.244So fitness has been a big part of your life, at least since I've known you when.
00:35:55.264 -->
00:35:57.728So fitness has been a big part of your life, at least since I've known you.
00:35:57.728 -->
00:35:58.409Where did that come from?
00:35:58.409 -->
00:36:15.188Well, if I'm being honest, I have always, and even now, when I look in the mirror, all I see is a scrawny 14-year-old, and I've always fought to get past that.
00:36:15.188 -->
00:36:20.273I think people describe it now as body dysmorphia.
00:36:20.273 -->
00:36:27.639I still, and I control it pretty good, but it also, I use it and it helps me going in the gym.
00:36:27.639 -->
00:36:32.422When I look at myself, I see the areas that I need to work on.
00:36:33.143 -->
00:36:43.199Okay, you know people think that people that go to the gym are very vain and you know they're looking in the mirrors because they think they look good.
00:36:43.199 -->
00:36:46.231It's just the opposite For me, anyway.
00:36:46.231 -->
00:36:50.431When I look in the mirror, I see shit to me.
00:36:50.431 -->
00:36:53.416That's just unacceptable, that I have to improve.
00:36:53.416 -->
00:36:55.820And that keeps me going.
00:36:55.820 -->
00:37:00.931So that you know that's always been a part of me.
00:37:00.931 -->
00:37:05.994Plus, even at a young age, I've always had a mouth on me.
00:37:05.994 -->
00:37:07.730No, you better be able to back it up.
00:37:07.730 -->
00:37:08.969I know that's surprising.
00:37:08.969 -->
00:37:10.742No, and you better be able to back it up.
00:37:11.186 -->
00:37:12.271I know that's surprising.
00:37:14.684 -->
00:37:19.355But hey, if you're going to be stupid, you better be tough yeah that's right.
00:37:19.355 -->
00:37:26.369Yeah, so yeah, that's always been a part and it's even, you know, at my age.
00:37:26.369 -->
00:37:46.896Now it's even more important because I see a lot of people my age people that I grew up with, and they're just miserable and they look terrible fitness-wise and people want oh wow, I can't walk around here without getting out of breath.
00:37:46.896 -->
00:37:49.652Well, it's because you're 70 pounds overweight.
00:37:49.652 -->
00:37:50.876Damn it, lose it.
00:37:53.190 -->
00:38:00.748Yeah, I noticed this In American culture we're overly sensitive to say anything and in other cultures.
00:38:00.829 -->
00:38:04.036They'll literally identify you as fat.
00:38:04.036 -->
00:38:06.449Oh yeah, they'll straight call you that.
00:38:06.449 -->
00:38:08.025I watched this guy on YouTube.
00:38:08.025 -->
00:38:21.389He speaks like 20-something, 30-something different languages and he goes around to all these different cities and he went into Chinatown and they just like will literally be like hey, fat boy, come here Like that's yes and it's not.
00:38:21.389 -->
00:38:31.088They're not saying it in a disrespectful way, they're just like well, you're fat and I'm trying to get your attention and that stands out in China because there aren't that many fat people.
00:38:31.108 -->
00:38:39.335Yeah, so that stands out in China because there aren't that many fat people, yeah, so it's interesting that you said that I would even go as far as to say a lot of this.
00:38:39.335 -->
00:38:45.599Self-conscious things about me are what drive me to be excellent in those areas.
00:38:46.059 -->
00:38:49.141Oh yeah, you know, I agree, and that's kind of what I meant.
00:38:49.141 -->
00:38:58.460Yeah, I see faults in me physically much more than I see in others.
00:38:58.460 -->
00:39:12.210Now, that being said, we're in a terrible state of being here in the United States, Whatever anybody's politics are.
00:39:12.210 -->
00:39:17.780I was happy to hear that Kennedy got appointed.
00:39:17.780 -->
00:39:20.733Some of the stuff I hope he's able to do it.
00:39:20.733 -->
00:39:35.969You know, we're feeding our kids poison here, yeah, and because someone's making money off of it 19, one of the biggest examples I have.
00:39:36.090 -->
00:39:43.981My wife for a long time thought she was allergic to oh shit, gluten.
00:39:43.981 -->
00:39:51.731She thought she had gluten allergies Because when she ate something like that, instantly she would swell up and it was painful.
00:39:51.731 -->
00:39:55.231Her rings would cut into her, Her socks would cut.
00:39:55.231 -->
00:40:01.114I mean, the swelling was almost instantaneous If something was just cross-contaminated.
00:40:01.114 -->
00:40:04.411We heard a guy online.
00:40:04.411 -->
00:40:11.655He was talking on the Joe Rogan podcast and a lot of what he said really made sense.
00:40:11.655 -->
00:40:21.583And he said in 1993, so this is what the man's name was, Gary Brekka.
00:40:21.583 -->
00:40:28.117Okay, he said in 1992, folic acid was considered a waste product.
00:40:28.938 -->
00:40:29.159Okay.
00:40:29.159 -->
00:40:47.681So drug companies it was a byproduct of one of the processes, something they were making, and I can't remember what it was, but drug companies were spending millions of dollars to dispose of the excess folic acid because it was considered a waste, a hazardous waste.
00:40:47.681 -->
00:41:01.820So they lobbied Congress continually and they finally told Congress that people need a form of folic acid, methylfolate, after it's processed.
00:41:01.820 -->
00:41:10.579So they convinced Congress to pass bills that required it to be an all-white bread.
00:41:10.579 -->
00:41:12.751We're the only country that has that.
00:41:12.751 -->
00:41:15.532It is against the law in Europe.
00:41:15.532 -->
00:41:22.764Wow so, and I can imagine more than a few politicians bought stock in that company.
00:41:22.764 -->
00:41:24.532Then they passed the bill.
00:41:24.532 -->
00:41:34.762All of a sudden, what was multimillion-dollar debt now every bread and grain company has to buy this folic acid.
00:41:34.762 -->
00:41:45.588So literally overnight, it went from hundreds of millions of dollars of loss to probably close to a billion dollars revenue in one day.
00:41:46.849 -->
00:41:48.893Wow so, those fuckers made money.
00:41:48.893 -->
00:41:55.081But only 60% of humans can process folic acid from its raw state.
00:41:55.081 -->
00:42:01.773So 40% of America couldn't even process this shit, and that's what was causing the swelling in her.
00:42:01.773 -->
00:42:13.780So, following his advice, we both got on methylated vitamins and methylfolateate cut back on the white bread.
00:42:13.780 -->
00:42:17.914After about a month it went away.
00:42:17.914 -->
00:42:19.851Her problems went away completely.
00:42:19.851 -->
00:42:26.617We don't overdo it, but she can eat white bread now and it doesn't tear up.
00:42:26.617 -->
00:42:32.273She doesn't have any reaction to it now and there's a lot of people that have that.
00:42:32.664 -->
00:42:38.114Well, and it's crazy, because it's not just folic acid, right, it's right, dyes, it's all.
00:42:38.114 -->
00:42:39.998Oh yeah, there's bugs in our food.
00:42:39.998 -->
00:42:45.755Think of all the stuff, in all kinds of stuff well, logically, I'm not against the bugs.
00:42:45.856 -->
00:42:58.498If, because there are countries that eat bugs for a delicacy, sure it's the chemicals in some of these dyes and we have to ask ourselves why is it legal here and nowhere else in the world?
00:42:58.498 -->
00:43:04.568Yeah, look at, the cereal in Canada Comes from the same factory.
00:43:04.568 -->
00:43:12.474Their cereal is a big difference from ours, really Doesn't have those dyes and shit on it, because Canada doesn't allow that.
00:43:12.474 -->
00:43:13.786They don't want you to poison their citizens.
00:43:14.568 -->
00:43:17.900We do yeah, I heard that yellow, some form of yellow dye.
00:43:17.900 -->
00:43:23.059I don't know which one it is, because I know there's like different ones, but one of them is like a byproduct of coal tar.
00:43:23.059 -->
00:43:25.387Yeah, and it's like and we're eating it.
00:43:25.387 -->
00:43:29.197People have to wear hazmat suits to like work with it and we're eating it.
00:43:29.197 -->
00:43:30.206What's kind of weird.
00:43:30.266 -->
00:43:31.530You want disgusting?
00:43:31.530 -->
00:43:33.155Look up margarine.
00:43:33.155 -->
00:43:34.217Oh no.
00:43:34.237 -->
00:43:35.440I don't want to and see what it actually is.
00:43:35.460 -->
00:43:36.724I don't want to.
00:43:36.724 -->
00:43:37.224I'm serious.
00:43:37.224 -->
00:43:41.536I think Mr Brecka actually mentioned that.
00:43:41.536 -->
00:43:46.195When I looked up what margarine was, that was it.
00:43:46.195 -->
00:43:49.034It's actually an oil product.
00:43:49.034 -->
00:43:51.012There's no food in that shit.
00:43:55.505 -->
00:43:57.989That's why you can sit a thing of margarine out and it doesn't go bad.
00:43:57.989 -->
00:43:59.793Leave the top out, set it up there for a month.
00:43:59.793 -->
00:44:07.157Mold won't grow on it because it's not an organic product and we slather it on shit from here to the moon.
00:44:07.157 -->
00:44:15.235There's just so many and that's why we have and see if we get unhealthy, we get fat.
00:44:15.235 -->
00:44:17.559Well then they can sell all these drugs to us.
00:44:17.559 -->
00:44:20.313You're not allowed to fat chain people.
00:44:20.313 -->
00:44:32.849So you know they just get less and less healthy and fatter and they're selling more product to us and Americans are running around fat and happy.
00:44:32.849 -->
00:44:36.172We've got to change that.
00:44:37.032 -->
00:44:39.393And people are big on excuses.
00:44:39.393 -->
00:44:49.958And when I mentioned about having self-discipline, I could sit on my ass at home and say, shit, I'm 60 years old, that's too hard to do.
00:44:49.958 -->
00:44:50.259That.
00:44:50.259 -->
00:44:52.059That's bullshit.
00:44:52.059 -->
00:44:54.661You have to hold yourself accountable for that stuff.
00:44:54.661 -->
00:44:59.963So when I get a little extra break, I'm in the gym, I'm doing something.
00:44:59.963 -->
00:45:06.110You know you've got to make yourself do that and get healthier.
00:45:06.110 -->
00:45:08.721I don't have all the medicines that people my age have.
00:45:08.721 -->
00:45:11.793I don't have a lot of the health problems they have.
00:45:11.793 -->
00:45:17.650I've had my own bouts with cancer and stuff, but that's completely different.
00:45:17.650 -->
00:45:23.539Yeah, this obesity problem in America is ridiculous.
00:45:23.539 -->
00:45:41.594I travel with my job and it's very disappointing to me when I walk through an airport in another country and it's very easy to pick out the Americans Because the majority of the time they're the fat ones.
00:45:42.184 -->
00:45:45.655And you kind of use that a lot of the times to like motivate you to stay healthy.
00:45:45.775 -->
00:45:46.677Oh, absolutely.
00:45:46.677 -->
00:45:49.123That's my negative role models.
00:45:49.786 -->
00:45:52.775Have you seen Butterbean's story recently?
00:45:55.105 -->
00:45:57.309I have Him working with Diamond Dallas Page.
00:45:57.309 -->
00:45:57.771That's amazing.
00:45:57.851 -->
00:46:00.777Dude, his transformation is ridiculous.
00:46:03.007 -->
00:46:05.413He was an outlier, to say the least.
00:46:05.413 -->
00:46:07.076That man was faster than anyone.
00:46:07.076 -->
00:46:08.518That fat had a right to be.
00:46:08.518 -->
00:46:11.371He was incredible when he boxed.
00:46:11.592 -->
00:46:19.219So for those of you who don't know, butterbean, very heavyweight boxer 300 plus with with ridiculous knockout power.
00:46:19.219 -->
00:46:31.418Um, he actually I don't know how recently or when, but he was actually doubled over couldn't stand up straight and had to walk with like arm crutches basically to get around.
00:46:31.478 -->
00:46:33.364He was on a wheelchair most of the time.
00:46:33.405 -->
00:46:35.373Yeah, he was in such bad shape.
00:46:35.373 -->
00:46:52.311And then Diamond Dallas Page he has a rehabilitation program where he works with people and doing yoga and exercise and balance and stretching and things like that to try to help them get healthy again and it's unbelievable.
00:46:52.311 -->
00:46:54.891If you guys get a second, you definitely should watch that and check it out.
00:46:54.891 -->
00:46:58.184It was inspiring Like I watched it and I was like dude, that's awesome.
00:46:58.847 -->
00:46:59.550That is so awesome.
00:46:59.550 -->
00:47:11.414Like Diamond Dallas Page, I saw pictures one time of his scans of his back and that hits me because I've had a lot of back problems.
00:47:11.414 -->
00:47:16.717He's got, I think, three or four discs that are just gone.
00:47:16.717 -->
00:47:18.311It's bone on bone.
00:47:18.311 -->
00:47:22.356There's no reason why he should be walking and moving normally.
00:47:22.356 -->
00:47:24.753But whatever he's doing, it works.
00:47:25.347 -->
00:47:26.311Yeah, that's for sure.
00:47:26.311 -->
00:47:30.195I'm going to switch gears here just a little bit.
00:47:30.195 -->
00:47:39.449I want to ask you if you could go back 20 years ago and talk to yourself what?
00:47:39.449 -->
00:47:43.197What would Dwayne Maddox now say to Dwayne Maddox 20 years ago?
00:47:43.197 -->
00:47:45.75020 years ago, yeah.
00:47:46.411 -->
00:47:47.675Now, that would be a tough one.
00:47:49.106 -->
00:47:53.472Knowing what you've gone through and done in the last 20 years, what would you say to yourself?
00:47:55.217 -->
00:48:10.715You know, jokingly, I've always said if, if I could go back and talk to myself at 20, I'd tell myself to stay away from anyone named Tammy, cause both my ex-wives are named Tammy.
00:48:10.715 -->
00:48:13.315But I say that jokingly.
00:48:13.315 -->
00:48:17.885Um, to be honest, I am very um, because both my ex-wives are named Tammy, but I say that jokingly.
00:48:17.885 -->
00:48:25.103To be honest, I am very comfortable and happy where I am in life.
00:48:25.103 -->
00:48:27.568I've got a peace like I've never had.
00:48:27.568 -->
00:48:33.195My relationship with my wife and our family is just amazing.
00:48:33.195 -->
00:48:36.179And even bad things they happen for a reason.
00:48:36.179 -->
00:48:42.925Sure, the way my mind works.
00:48:42.925 -->
00:48:45.614I would not be who I am now if I didn't go through those things, no matter how painful.
00:48:45.614 -->
00:48:51.016So I think I'd have to stay quiet because I have to go.
00:48:51.016 -->
00:48:58.289Have to stay quiet because I have to go.
00:48:58.289 -->
00:49:01.880My, my mind and body has to go through those trip, you know those tribulations, uh, to get to where I am now.
00:49:01.880 -->
00:49:03.905So I don't think I'd change a thing it's a wise answer.
00:49:03.925 -->
00:49:06.309I like it all right.
00:49:06.309 -->
00:49:06.809What's?
00:49:06.809 -->
00:49:13.420What, would you say, is the single most difficult thing that you've had to go through in your life?
00:49:15.304 -->
00:49:38.349So I mean, I know, you know this, but most people would think my time in the Army because I was an airborne ranger and while that was difficult and it was a very defining time, what I'm about to say next probably most people will think I'm crazy, but maybe we'll get time to explain.
00:49:38.349 -->
00:49:47.713Sure, probably the best thing as a person that ever happened to me was being diagnosed with cancer.
00:49:48.436 -->
00:49:51.101Really, by far.
00:49:51.101 -->
00:49:52.887Yeah, it's definitely interesting.
00:49:52.887 -->
00:49:53.590You put it that way.
00:49:53.590 -->
00:49:54.393I'm curious.
00:49:54.393 -->
00:49:56.914I'd like to hear that story, if you don't mind sharing yeah.
00:49:59.670 -->
00:50:14.855I had just hired into my current job with Miller Miller Welders had moved to the Birmingham area I think I'd only been there about three months and I found a family doctor, so a new doctor.
00:50:14.855 -->
00:50:25.896I went in to do a physical and while I'm doing the physical, the doctor says I was 40 at the time and he said you want us to test PSA.
00:50:25.896 -->
00:50:29.614I didn't even know what the hell PSA was.
00:50:29.614 -->
00:50:32.755I'm like sure I'm here, let's do it.
00:50:32.755 -->
00:50:36.153So it just drew blood right.
00:50:36.153 -->
00:50:37.451They ran an extra test.
00:50:37.451 -->
00:50:49.112I think it was a week later I'm driving to go see a customer and the nurse calls me and you know she says Dwayne Maxley.
00:50:49.112 -->
00:50:54.135Yes, she told me her name, that she was a nurse for Dr Gray.
00:50:54.135 -->
00:50:57.152She said I need you to stay on the line just a minute.
00:50:57.152 -->
00:51:01.697Dr Gray needs to talk to you, which I've never had that happen in my life.
00:51:01.697 -->
00:51:04.989So I thought, okay, this is going to be a little interesting.
00:51:04.989 -->
00:51:12.951And he gets on the phone and he said your test came back positive for cancer.
00:51:12.951 -->
00:51:18.110He said you need to come in and we need to run some additional tests.
00:51:18.110 -->
00:51:21.887I said well, hang on a second, let me pull over to the side of the road.
00:51:21.887 -->
00:51:25.568He said oh my God, you're driving, yeah.
00:51:25.568 -->
00:51:27.365So I pulled over.
00:51:27.365 -->
00:51:48.175He kind of explained to me the next steps and what had to happen and I sat there for about at least a half hour and my mind was thinking how am I going to tell my family that I have cancer?
00:51:48.175 -->
00:52:07.364I eventually came to grips with it enough to you know, get my act together and I think I went on and headed to the customer, told my wife at the time what was going on and we set up plans to get.
00:52:07.385 -->
00:52:08.849I had to go in and get a biopsy.
00:52:08.849 -->
00:52:14.692It was prostate cancer, which tends to run in my family.
00:52:14.692 -->
00:52:20.251And before I get too much further, any man at 40, get checked.
00:52:20.251 -->
00:52:24.668It's just drawn blood, okay, so there's no reason to put it off.
00:52:24.668 -->
00:52:27.242Sure, it was.
00:52:27.242 -->
00:52:29.489We did the biopsy.
00:52:29.489 -->
00:52:30.864It came back.
00:52:30.864 -->
00:52:32.947It was pretty bad.
00:52:35.001 -->
00:52:42.152Met with an oncologist team and the doctor said look, I'm going to be honest with you, straightforward.
00:52:42.152 -->
00:52:45.148You need to make sure your affairs are in order.
00:52:45.148 -->
00:52:47.327This has spread quite a bit.
00:52:47.327 -->
00:52:58.012We don't know now if it has spread beyond the prostate, but I'm going to give you about a 50-50 chance of coming out of this.
00:52:58.012 -->
00:52:58.512Wow.
00:52:58.512 -->
00:53:08.009So, while you think you can understand what that's like.
00:53:08.009 -->
00:53:14.135It's very difficult until someone is telling you it's a crapshoot.
00:53:14.135 -->
00:53:22.199You may or may not live through this and of course, like anyone else, I'm human.
00:53:22.721 -->
00:53:30.034I went through a week or two where I was depressed and did the why me shit?
00:53:30.034 -->
00:53:33.150And you know I'm going to fucking die.
00:53:33.150 -->
00:53:37.262But again that self-discipline.
00:53:37.262 -->
00:53:45.215After I got through that I said, nah, I got a 50-50 chance, it's all I need.
00:53:45.215 -->
00:53:49.731I said if death's coming for me, better pack his fucking lunch.
00:53:49.731 -->
00:53:52.206I am not going to make it easy.
00:53:52.206 -->
00:53:55.309If he's going to take me, he's going to fight for it.
00:53:56.760 -->
00:53:58.688And you know most people don't ask.
00:53:58.688 -->
00:54:02.231They see me with the mohawk and they think they just think it's weird.
00:54:02.231 -->
00:54:07.010But to me this was a reminder to me.
00:54:07.010 -->
00:54:19.771This was the haircut I wore when I was in the Army and because you know I was at war then and when the cancer hit I was at war again.
00:54:19.771 -->
00:54:25.467It was me against the cancer and I was not going to lose.
00:54:25.467 -->
00:54:31.952So kind of doing the mohawk was my wayawk, was my way of putting on my war face.
00:54:32.652 -->
00:54:38.231Yeah, and I went through the initial surgery.
00:54:38.231 -->
00:54:59.034It came out okay, we thought it was all gone and then a couple of years later it came back and they found that it had spread, it had metastasized, so it turned into a form of bone cancer, which I believe and don't quote me on this.
00:54:59.034 -->
00:55:02.389Sure, I don't think anyone dies from prostate cancer.
00:55:02.389 -->
00:55:12.028I believe what happens is it metastasizes into something else and that's typically what kills people and it can be a very painful death.
00:55:12.028 -->
00:55:35.474But if you can have a good form, mine was a form of cancer that caused almost like bone spurs or growth on the bone or growth on the bone, the bad part of it when it did come back, it started attacking the weak spot on my body which was in my back.
00:55:35.474 -->
00:55:42.387I had been injured in the Army and that's where it went at.
00:55:42.387 -->
00:55:58.599So you know, long story short, I've had five of what you would call a disc fusion, where they've had to go in and remove sections of bone that were just too ate up.
00:56:05.300 -->
00:56:09.050Most people would have been on, you know, and I don't mean this to sound bragging, but where a lot of people would have been on disability.
00:56:09.050 -->
00:56:10.474I said I'm not disabled, that's not stopping me.
00:56:10.474 -->
00:56:16.943If I'm alive, I will move, I can walk, I can work and be productive.
00:56:16.943 -->
00:56:38.483Having cancer and that you know, everybody thinks, you know you're going to die right, but you don't really know because you've not had to face that hard, you've never had it right in front of your nose.
00:56:38.483 -->
00:56:44.833And cancer taught me I'm so much of a better person since then.
00:56:47.260 -->
00:56:48.123I used to be very angry.
00:56:48.123 -->
00:56:49.487I didn't have any friends.
00:56:49.487 -->
00:57:00.893Really I wasn't big on showing any kind of emotion, and cancer reinforced me.
00:57:00.893 -->
00:57:04.083It actually taught me that you're not promised tomorrow.
00:57:04.083 -->
00:57:10.853You might think, yeah, I'll do that and nobody can read your mind.
00:57:10.853 -->
00:57:16.284You might think, yeah, she knows I love her.
00:57:16.284 -->
00:57:20.173Maybe, but do you want to miss the chance to tell her that Because you might not have another chance?
00:57:20.173 -->
00:57:28.922Yeah, and you know I take a lot of blame too.
00:57:28.922 -->
00:57:44.195In my own way, the best I could, I tried to explain a lot of that to my wife at the time and I had to go through that journey to get out the other side and she just couldn't come through that journey with me.
00:57:44.195 -->
00:57:50.934I was a completely different person than what she buried.
00:57:50.934 -->
00:57:55.909I like to think it's a lot better person.
00:57:57.561 -->
00:58:00.851I have no problem telling people close to me that I love them.
00:58:00.851 -->
00:58:08.932I make sure my wife doesn't go, probably not more than a couple hours without me saying it.
00:58:08.932 -->
00:58:12.583That's awesome Close friends.
00:58:12.583 -->
00:58:15.811I'll hug a friend and let them know I care.
00:58:15.811 -->
00:58:18.666I don't get angry.
00:58:18.666 -->
00:58:19.882I don't.
00:58:19.882 -->
00:58:26.514When I used to be, I would try and piss people off just to see what they're going to do.
00:58:26.514 -->
00:58:29.289I don't do that anymore.
00:58:29.289 -->
00:58:31.268Life's too short to spend your time angry.
00:58:31.268 -->
00:58:35.972I don't fixate on negative things like that.
00:58:35.972 -->
00:58:37.766I cut them loose and I'm gone.
00:58:37.766 -->
00:58:42.809I am so much happier now and stress free.
00:58:42.809 -->
00:58:45.293I don't stress over shit anymore.
00:58:45.293 -->
00:58:46.298It is what it is.
00:58:46.519 -->
00:58:49.829I'd imagine after that what's going to stress you out.
00:58:49.849 -->
00:58:52.365Yeah, it's not going to kill me, so why do I care?
00:58:52.365 -->
00:58:59.172And you can imagine as a person when you get that attitude.
00:58:59.172 -->
00:59:04.331It made me so much of a better person, a better human being.
00:59:04.331 -->
00:59:13.614I'm grateful for each day and I try and leave nothing left unsaid.
00:59:13.614 -->
00:59:17.023Sometimes that gets me in trouble.
00:59:17.023 -->
00:59:18.286It's not always.
00:59:18.286 -->
00:59:28.733You know flowers and roses, sure, but rarely do you have to wonder where you stand with the way I'm going to let you know.
00:59:29.059 -->
00:59:34.472That's one of my favorite attributes about you is that you are a man of your word, like you said earlier.
00:59:34.472 -->
00:59:51.521But it's more than just keeping your promises or keeping your word when you give it, but it's more of I know that if I come to you and I ask your opinion on something, I'm going to get the honest opinion Like it's not.
00:59:51.521 -->
00:59:53.891You're not going to tell me something that you think is going to make me feel better, like and I love that about you.
00:59:53.891 -->
00:59:56.239I think people need to be surrounded by more people like that, that's willing to tell you the hard truth.
00:59:56.820 -->
01:00:00.465I tell people don't, lord, don't ask my opinion if you don't want it.
01:00:00.465 -->
01:00:02.748That's the quickest way to get it.
01:00:02.748 -->
01:00:12.463You know, and I don't try and hurt people's feelings, but uh, life's too short to sugarcoat things yeah, and so how?
01:00:12.623 -->
01:00:23.487how long ago, like what year was that whenever you uh went when you found out that you had initially had prostate cancer, and then what year was it when you found out that it and it came back?
01:00:23.487 -->
01:00:24.849Do you recall that?
01:00:25.750 -->
01:00:26.751So, it was.
01:00:26.751 -->
01:00:37.992I've been with Miller 18 years now, so it was probably around 17 years ago.
01:00:37.992 -->
01:00:58.704Okay, I went probably three years before cancer came back the first time and I had to have some procedures and stuff done and then it hit again.
01:00:58.704 -->
01:01:07.568Six to seven years ago so about the time they said I was cancer free it came back.
01:01:07.568 -->
01:01:12.447You know, six, seven years ago I went through some treatments with that.
01:01:12.447 -->
01:01:13.925I had a surgery.
01:01:13.925 -->
01:01:18.726Knock on wood, everything's in remission now.
01:01:21.380 -->
01:01:34.215But to me, instead of crawling in a hole saying I've got cancer, you know, it was motivation to me to do what I needed to do, to live my life the way I'm supposed to.
01:01:34.215 -->
01:01:41.873You know, if you want to be, if you want to live your life in shape, fucking do it.
01:01:41.873 -->
01:01:45.389Talking about it doesn't do anything, you know.
01:01:45.389 -->
01:01:50.789Yeah, and I hear so many people, even guys I work with like, oh man, you're lucky.
01:01:50.789 -->
01:01:52.293What do you mean lucky?
01:01:52.293 -->
01:01:55.125So to be built like that at your age?
01:01:55.125 -->
01:01:58.112What do you think luck had to do with it?
01:01:58.112 -->
01:01:59.905Yeah, luck didn't do shit.
01:01:59.905 -->
01:02:05.148It's my ass getting up at 3 in the morning, going to the gym before I go to work.
01:02:05.148 -->
01:02:06.592So you can do it.
01:02:06.592 -->
01:02:07.414It's simple.
01:02:07.414 -->
01:02:11.706There's nothing magical about it, just get up and fucking do it.
01:02:11.706 -->
01:02:13.324There's no luck.
01:02:13.324 -->
01:02:15.768There's no genetic lottery or anything.
01:02:15.768 -->
01:02:18.706I just put in the work, that's it.
01:02:19.510 -->
01:02:19.690Yeah.
01:02:21.179 -->
01:02:27.003So and really cancer helped enforce that with me and really cancer helped enforce that with me.
01:02:27.003 -->
01:02:33.545Before my first diagnosis I had forgot a lot of that.
01:02:33.545 -->
01:02:45.692I slipped into probably a more normal life for the way men my age were, and normal sucks.
01:02:45.692 -->
01:02:50.355Yeah, that is not me and I don't apologize for it anymore.
01:02:50.355 -->
01:02:51.954I don't try and fit in.
01:02:51.954 -->
01:02:54.916I'm me, you like it or not.
01:02:54.916 -->
01:02:57.197If you don't, that's great, Go away.
01:03:07.800 -->
01:03:12.648So, after your battle with cancer and all of that, and having gone through all of that, what would you tell somebody that's listening right now that maybe is going through their own season of just struggle and war?
01:03:12.668 -->
01:03:21.846Well, a big thing and like a lot of men we don't, especially my age group we don't talk about things.
01:03:21.846 -->
01:03:23.289You just didn't.
01:03:23.289 -->
01:03:24.932You do it.
01:03:24.932 -->
01:03:26.963You know the suffering, silence thing.
01:03:26.963 -->
01:03:29.751And I had a very close friend.
01:03:29.751 -->
01:03:32.384He's still kind of going through it.
01:03:32.384 -->
01:03:38.983He's on the backside of it now, but he also had cancer and I love him like a brother.
01:03:38.983 -->
01:03:42.809But I told him.
01:03:42.809 -->
01:03:54.594You know, when he first told me about it I said, look, when you have those times and you're going to know what I'm talking about, you pick up that phone and call me.
01:03:54.594 -->
01:04:04.371I don't care if it's midnight and I put his number down on favorites so even if my phone's in do not disturb, you know he can still call me.
01:04:04.371 -->
01:04:14.952And he did a couple of times and I'm proud of him he did, Because it really messes with your mind when you're going through some of that.
01:04:16.460 -->
01:04:23.094You need to talk to someone, especially if they've had that experience, and come out the other side.
01:04:23.094 -->
01:04:30.407Look, do your thing with the doctors, Absolutely.
01:04:30.407 -->
01:04:37.625Get second opinion, Do what's suggested, Take the steps you need to to get over it.
01:04:37.625 -->
01:04:45.443Your mental state, I believe, has as much to do with cancer as chemo does.
01:04:45.443 -->
01:04:50.432You have to believe and not just think this way.
01:04:50.432 -->
01:04:53.804You have to believe it a hundred percent.
01:04:53.804 -->
01:04:55.688I'm coming out of this.
01:04:55.688 -->
01:04:58.572This is not killing me.
01:04:58.572 -->
01:05:07.643You have to do and you can't let cancer become your whole life, and it very quickly will.
01:05:07.643 -->
01:05:12.807You'd be surprised how fast your whole life becomes.
01:05:12.807 -->
01:05:26.295Chemo doctors, sleeping treatment doctors, chemo You're talking about cancer, You're discussing it with your wife, You're taking care of plant.
01:05:26.295 -->
01:05:29.557Everything revolves around that damn cancer.
01:05:29.557 -->
01:05:38.342And while you have to do some of those things, you have to do other things.
01:05:38.362 -->
01:05:44.288For me, I was able to focus in the gym and some days it hurt.
01:05:44.288 -->
01:05:47.451After the form of chemo I had to have.
01:05:47.451 -->
01:05:51.775There were some times when it hurt when air touched my skin.
01:05:51.775 -->
01:05:59.152I can't imagine I went to the gym.
01:05:59.152 -->
01:06:10.708I can remember days trying to curl five pounds and fucking tears coming out of my eyes because it just hurt that badly and I kept doing the fucking curls.
01:06:10.708 -->
01:06:15.929You got to get out and do other things.
01:06:15.929 -->
01:06:19.851Take your mind away from it, Keep healthy.
01:06:19.851 -->
01:06:35.634Yeah, my big savior was the gym at the time, but that is, without a doubt, the defining moment in my life as a person.
01:06:36.099 -->
01:06:36.219Yeah.
01:06:36.219 -->
01:06:41.570So for everybody listening right now, just don't isolate yourself.
01:06:41.570 -->
01:07:02.909If you're going through something, no matter how insignificant you may think it is, because we always, always I noticed for myself guys we always do that Like, if I'm struggling with an addiction, for example, like I'll downplay it and be like, well, I don't want to burden anybody else with it, like it's not that big of a deal and it really does more harm than it does.
01:07:02.909 -->
01:07:07.250Good, so, regardless of how you may feel about it, just reach out to somebody.
01:07:07.250 -->
01:07:10.025And if you don't have somebody, like, look up online.
01:07:10.025 -->
01:07:12.990There are so many resources that you can connect with.
01:07:13.693 -->
01:07:17.570Um, incredible, like counseling centers and people like that.
01:07:17.570 -->
01:07:19.297I saw one recently.
01:07:19.297 -->
01:07:23.106I get them recommended a lot, so it must be a sign I probably need to get some counseling done.
01:07:23.106 -->
01:07:35.273But, um, there was a one where it was like they'll fit you with like a counselor from like a form you fill out and if you don't like them, they'll switch you to a different one until you do find somebody that you feel comfortable talking to.
01:07:35.273 -->
01:07:38.148So there's no excuse to like not talk to somebody.
01:07:39.340 -->
01:07:41.445Most workplaces now have.
01:07:41.445 -->
01:07:44.132They've started including mental health with that.
01:07:44.132 -->
01:07:52.148If you're a veteran, you've got to have some of your brothers you can talk to, especially if you're a veteran.
01:07:52.148 -->
01:07:56.992You know we lose 23 veterans a day to suicide.
01:07:56.992 -->
01:08:00.766Yeah, don't be part of that number.
01:08:00.766 -->
01:08:02.130Talk to someone.
01:08:02.130 -->
01:08:05.961It's not weakness Shit.
01:08:05.961 -->
01:08:07.246If you know me, call me.
01:08:07.246 -->
01:08:08.806I'll gladly talk with you.
01:08:08.806 -->
01:08:16.989You have to be able to work that stuff out and we can't all be strong every moment of every day.
01:08:16.989 -->
01:08:23.512Sure, you know, and you want your wife and everyone else to think you're Superman, but we're human.
01:08:24.201 -->
01:08:25.605I get myself in trouble with that one?
01:08:25.605 -->
01:08:41.650Oh yeah, because, like my wife, like she'll overhear me telling a close friend about something I'm dealing with, and then it's like you didn't tell me that I'm not supposed to tell you that that's right and maybe that's wrong, but that's how my brain perceives it.
01:08:41.650 -->
01:08:45.088So what's next for you?
01:08:45.088 -->
01:08:49.109You got anything coming up, any cool projects or anything you're working on currently.
01:08:50.740 -->
01:08:51.804Well, I'm fixing to.
01:08:51.804 -->
01:08:54.230I need to expand my forge.
01:08:54.230 -->
01:09:05.340You know I think I mentioned before but I like to blacksmith as a hobby and I'm really considering offering classes.
01:09:05.340 -->
01:09:09.908Offering classes Just people who are serious.
01:09:09.908 -->
01:09:23.298Come out, get them started on the basics, see if I can get them excited about blacksmithing.
01:09:23.298 -->
01:09:26.676There's a lot of people see crap online and they see the stuff on TV and some of those are good.
01:09:26.676 -->
01:09:27.079Some of them aren't.
01:09:27.079 -->
01:09:32.028But I want to see if I can get people interested in using their hands working.
01:09:32.028 -->
01:09:34.042You know doing some of the things I do.
01:09:34.042 -->
01:09:37.729So I'm thinking that's going to be my next line.
01:09:37.729 -->
01:09:39.774We're going to expand the forge.
01:09:39.774 -->
01:09:49.090I'm going to put it a little further back on the property, so it's way out in the woods and, yeah, see if other people like beating on steel also.
01:09:49.310 -->
01:09:49.832That sounds good.
01:09:49.832 -->
01:09:51.185I'll be the first one out there.
01:09:51.500 -->
01:09:53.225Whenever you move it out there, let me know and.
01:09:53.246 -->
01:09:53.707I'll come out.
01:09:53.707 -->
01:09:54.229I'd love to.
01:09:54.229 -->
01:09:55.780Yeah, you better be.
01:09:55.780 -->
01:09:57.443We'll do that, It'll be fun.
01:09:57.443 -->
01:10:08.376And for those of you who are listening right now, if you're listening and you're like oh yeah, like that sounds really, or I'd like to reach out to Dwayne, what's a good way they can reach out to you?
01:10:11.520 -->
01:10:12.903You can get me on Facebook or Instagram.
01:10:12.903 -->
01:10:16.430On Facebook it's just my name, it's Dwayne Maddox.
01:10:16.430 -->
01:10:22.783It's D-W-A-Y-N-E-M-A-T-T-O-X.
01:10:22.783 -->
01:10:25.206I might have those backwards, I'm sorry.
01:10:25.206 -->
01:10:27.829On Instagram, it's just my name.
01:10:27.829 -->
01:10:30.354On Facebook it's Iron Demon Forge.
01:10:30.713 -->
01:10:37.826Okay, so that's one word just like it sounds Iron Demon Forge.
01:10:37.826 -->
01:10:39.911Yeah, so very cool.
01:10:39.911 -->
01:10:47.295And then is there anything that is on your heart that like maybe we didn't touch on that.
01:10:47.295 -->
01:10:55.385You were kind of like, oh you know what, on the drive up I was thinking about talking about this that you wanted to share no, I, I think we've hit all that.
01:10:55.926 -->
01:11:26.488Um, you know, really one of my biggest things was that with cancer and the mint your mental part of that I could have very easily looked at that as a downfall, as a handicap, as a you know, I could let that define the rest of my life after that, every time I've had to have a surgery or something, doctors are like all right, here's the forms for disability.
01:11:26.488 -->
01:11:27.832I'm not fucking disabled.
01:11:27.832 -->
01:11:28.399I'm not fucking disabled.
01:11:28.399 -->
01:11:29.886I'm not doing that.
01:11:29.886 -->
01:11:33.770I look at it as another challenge.
01:11:33.770 -->
01:11:39.926Yeah, I have my bad moments, like anyone else, where you have troubles with it, but you work through those.
01:11:43.862 -->
01:11:48.153I have to envision something like cancer or the surgeries I've had since then.
01:11:48.153 -->
01:11:50.466Those are positive things.
01:11:50.466 -->
01:12:02.711When you get the opportunity to have a struggle with something, you need to embrace that, enjoy it, because you're going to be stronger coming out the other side.
01:12:02.711 -->
01:12:11.305And I guess that's why I enjoy working out so much, because it's not easy, it's tough, it's hard.
01:12:11.305 -->
01:12:18.113You have to envision what you want and that has to be the most important thing in your mind every day.
01:12:18.113 -->
01:12:22.570And you do the hard things and when you come out you're that much better.
01:12:23.541 -->
01:12:28.011So you look at the trials and the troubles as opportunities.
01:12:28.011 -->
01:12:37.667You get the blessing of having something to struggle through to make you better and everything's like that.
01:12:37.667 -->
01:12:45.188You know, if something goes wrong you have to think of like shit, that's great, I'm going to learn how to deal with this.
01:12:45.188 -->
01:12:49.306I'm going to learn how to deal with this.
01:12:49.306 -->
01:12:50.649That's a huge part.
01:12:50.649 -->
01:13:11.442If you roll over and show your belly and play victim, you'll be a victim the rest of your life and we're all seeing what happens when a whole group of people decide to be victims and I think, whatever your politics it, it feels like a lot of that's changed this year.
01:13:12.644 -->
01:13:35.530Hopefully we're gonna start moving out of a lot of that crap yeah, I think I think that's a a good way to look at it, because we tend to we as a society, right we tend to get in our feelings and and that's never like your your emotions are never as good as like the facts and the logic of what's going on.
01:13:35.530 -->
01:13:39.886You know, and I think that that really is a part of it.
01:13:39.886 -->
01:13:53.064You know, if you get into your emotions and you get into how you feel about stuff, it just doesn't ever lead you anywhere good, because your feelings and emotions can always do this, you know, up and down Well and a lot of people don't.
01:13:53.565 -->
01:13:57.905I don't mean to sound harsh, but your feelings are yours.
01:13:57.905 -->
01:13:59.390That's your problem.
01:13:59.390 -->
01:14:07.987That police officer that pulls you over, he doesn't give a shit about your feelings and you don't give a shit about his.
01:14:07.987 -->
01:14:09.645Those are yours.
01:14:09.645 -->
01:14:10.784You deal with that.
01:14:10.784 -->
01:14:13.789No one else should have to deal with your feelings.
01:14:13.789 -->
01:14:28.032You know, my wife is the most self-aware person I've ever met and you know women, as they get older, they have some hormonal issues happen.
01:14:28.032 -->
01:14:32.889She's human, just like everyone else, but, dear God, I love her to death.
01:14:32.889 -->
01:14:37.364She knows when that's happening, she realizes it and she deals with it.
01:14:37.364 -->
01:14:43.872She doesn't expect me to deal with her feelings or you know issues.
01:14:43.872 -->
01:14:51.373If we had more people like her, this would be a lot better country, A lot better.
01:14:51.680 -->
01:14:52.101I've met her.
01:14:52.101 -->
01:14:52.585She's great.
01:14:52.585 -->
01:14:55.707Yeah, she has to be to put up with my ass.
01:14:55.707 -->
01:14:58.202That's cool.
01:14:58.202 -->
01:15:03.854Well, I think that's a really good spot to stop this episode.
01:15:03.854 -->
01:15:10.487Wayne, thank you for coming in and for taking the time to share with everybody.
01:15:11.461 -->
01:15:14.939Are we going to suggest the next guy, because I have a good one for you.
01:15:14.960 -->
01:15:16.030Alright, so here's the deal.
01:15:16.030 -->
01:15:19.586I've never done that live, but I'm not opposed to it.
01:15:20.582 -->
01:15:21.546Alright let's hear it.
01:15:21.546 -->
01:15:25.984I'm not going to go too far in, because I want him to tell his story.
01:15:26.199 -->
01:15:29.925Before you do that, let me preface this real quick For the people listening.
01:15:29.925 -->
01:15:41.512They don't know Every episode I have the previous person and since we've only done one episode, I have the previous person nominate who they think should be the next guest on the show.
01:15:41.512 -->
01:15:47.952So when Jeff came in last I guess it was a couple Um, he nominated Dwayne.
01:15:47.952 -->
01:15:52.530So you guys didn't hear that because we didn't do this live on the episode.
01:15:52.530 -->
01:15:54.899Uh, we just did it after the episode.
01:15:54.899 -->
01:15:57.872And then, uh, so now that's what's happening now.
01:15:57.872 -->
01:16:04.127So, live on this episode, we're doing what we did the last time and so Dwayne's about to share who he would like to nominate to be our next guest.
01:16:04.627 -->
01:16:06.189Yeah, so on the surface.
01:16:06.189 -->
01:16:18.103Well, so the guy I'm suggesting nominating he's follicly challenged, so he has no beard and he's losing the hair on top too, but and he's younger than me.
01:16:18.103 -->
01:16:22.332Even On the surface, you would think he and I would never get along.
01:16:22.332 -->
01:16:31.826He is one of the best human beings I've ever met and his story is so motivational.
01:16:31.826 -->
01:16:40.253Um, he, at a younger age, was going down a very bad road and he turned it around into a positive.
01:16:40.253 -->
01:16:44.337Uh, so I'm going to nominate a gentleman in Chattanooga.
01:16:44.337 -->
01:16:46.902His name is Michael Brandt.
01:16:46.902 -->
01:16:50.532He owns GarageBound LLC, which is a fabrication company.
01:16:50.532 -->
01:16:54.306Great person to talk to.
01:16:54.306 -->
01:16:59.212And some of his mission in life and what he's doing I think everybody would love to hear.
01:17:00.180 -->
01:17:07.833And I'm actually really excited about this because the first two guests being you and Jeff, I know both of you.
01:17:07.833 -->
01:17:15.253Yeah, and it's going to be exciting for me to have a guest on the show that I literally know nothing about.
01:17:15.621 -->
01:17:22.046You guys are going to hit it off so much, I promise you, from that point on, you're going to have a friend for life.
01:17:22.127 -->
01:17:22.729Oh, that's great.
01:17:22.729 -->
01:17:23.430I'm excited.
01:17:23.430 -->
01:17:27.569Yeah, so it's Michael Brandt, michael Brandt, all right.
01:17:27.569 -->
01:17:34.979Well, michael Brandt, I'll be hitting you up soon if you're listening to this episode and looking forward to hopefully having you on Ash and Iron.
01:17:34.979 -->
01:17:37.251So, dwayne, thank you so much, thank you.
01:17:37.291 -->
01:17:38.557My pleasure brother.
01:17:38.698 -->
01:17:41.065Yeah, have a great, great week you too, man.
