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00:00:36.630when a chicken lays an egg and we incubate that egg, the chick actually will absorb a lot of the calcium out of the egg shell to use- in its own formation.
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00:00:44.510We've got to go all the way back to the beginning
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00:01:03.121So there's this new thing that, I mean, it- it's no secret that we have some nerds that are doctors and veterinarians and stuff like that.
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00:01:13.442So with that, there's a lot of discussion about vaccines and diseases, and is it this, is it that?
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00:01:35.521And really and truly, you could post in a big backyard group, one set of symptoms and come up with 50 different diagnosises and probably 1,000 different treatments, and maybe only one of them will actually work, unless more than one person says,"Cull it."
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00:01:36.442Mm-hmm.
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00:01:53.972So, Jennifer had the idea to put together a vaccine disease masterclass-type deal- where we- we've got, examples, actual diagnosises.
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00:02:08.512how to fix it, what you can fix, what you need a vet to fix, and then, had the vet look at it to make sure that we're right, which, you know-
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00:02:18.431It's all based on research and- Yeah it is divided up, but it is not going to replace a veterinarian's opinion.
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00:02:25.451But dealing with birds, we do probably rely on ourselves more than most animals.
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00:02:40.651But this masterclass will be free on the poultrynerdspodcast.com website, because we just want you guys to have the information that you need in a central location.
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00:02:54.352Yeah, like we-
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00:03:04.262that is science-backed, especially before you give your bird some kind of treatment.
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00:03:15.861not that we don't trust the farmer two miles up the road that's had chickens for 30 years, but sometimes they can be wrong.
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00:03:32.032We see it on Facebook, and that's what kinda prompted this idea, was there's a lot of things people do that, create a lifetime egg withdrawal.
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00:03:40.472yeah, yeah, blue coat.
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00:03:44.762So you can't eat the bird, you can't do anything with the bird.
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00:03:53.522And what will happen is you'll go to, say, the poultry auction, and you'll buy a bird, and you have no idea what the history of that bird is.
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00:04:06.562So just kinda keep that in mind, and if you realize that those things are out there and that people do them to their birds, either knowingly or unknowingly, you don't know what you're buying.
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00:04:44.682So let's talk about calcium, phosphorus, and vitamin D.
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00:04:47.962Why do chickens need all three?
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00:04:54.902So does it not just help to throw more oyster shells at a bird?
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00:04:58.692I mean, only if they eat it.
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00:05:01.812And they need calcium.
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00:05:07.342But- Which chi- chickens are smarter than they think, okay?
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00:05:11.842Oh, well, than a lot of people think, even though they do some really stupid stuff.
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00:05:13.712I'll give you one example.
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00:05:19.222I have a custom blend that is a breeder feed.
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00:05:38.132Obviously, when you have a breeder flock, it's gonna be mixed Roosters need X amount of calcium, 1.2 to 1.3, and, non-laying hens need that too.
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00:05:50.112Well, when they're laying, they need more calcium because they deplete it a lot, and I use the, oyster shells in the feed to bridge that gap.
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00:05:54.762So, a hen ne- needs extra calcium.
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00:06:09.732If they don't, they won't They do need them all because the phosphorus really helps make them utilize more efficiently other minerals.
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00:06:13.462So Yeah, different.
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00:06:14.382they need it
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00:06:17.292Do they get vitamin D from the sun?
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00:06:24.352Well, the skin is still, I mean, the sun is still touching the skin and stuff.
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00:06:26.172yeah, like during the molt.
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00:06:30.342Well, what about their head and their comb and that kind of stuff?
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00:06:39.402I mean, I highly doubt that they absorb anywhere near enough vitamin D that way.
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00:06:47.962I mean, I don't even think people do unless they live in one of those colonies where people walk around all the time.
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00:06:55.662So calcium, we need calcium for the bones.
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00:07:00.462Nerves.
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00:07:01.842Yep.
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00:07:05.152That's how...
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00:07:22.052So if a b- if a bird has all the calcium that it needs, that can also b- well, calcium and B vitamins both play a role in birds that act kind of psychotic.
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00:07:27.701like when you first open the pen, you got some that start running around and going crazy.
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00:07:29.012They get real flighty.
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00:07:29.872Mm-hmm.
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00:07:47.262They typically are deficient in, vitamin B, one of the vitamin Bs, or calcium or both.
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00:07:49.532And you don't even realize it.
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00:07:58.932But, like I've told people, you can't buy a supplement, mix it in your feed, and expect it to work miracles overnight.
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00:08:04.662It's gonna take a couple weeks for those extra vitamins and amino acids to get into their bodies.
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00:08:10.182But once they do, you're gonna notice different behaviors.
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00:08:13.532you're gonna notice them not to be as flighty.
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00:08:15.802They're gonna be more friendly.
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00:08:25.162They're gonna get up under your feet and make you aggravated because you're fixing to step on them, because they wanna see you.
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00:08:26.182They wanna have fun.
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00:08:29.102But that's because they need those vitamins.
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00:08:31.162See, I did not know that.
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00:08:39.572So I sell birds to people sometimes, and they're like,"Oh, your birds are so crazy," and, or they do this or they do that.
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00:08:45.871And I, look over at mine, and they're all, got their faces mashed up against the fence waiting for me to come over there and see them.
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00:08:46.741They're like,"Hey, what are you doing?"
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00:08:50.631I, I don't have that problem, so
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00:08:51.831cause you feed good feed.
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00:08:53.682Huh, never thought
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00:09:02.229I never thought about that either, until about four years ago, and somebody, helped me put the two and two together.
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00:09:12.509And I was like,"Nuh-uh." And so I started, I changed the feed just to those couple of birds and nuh-huh.
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00:09:23.989And, fast-forward a few years, and got a feed company, feed store, and supplement, and, All because I got tired of mixing a whole bunch of crap together.
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00:09:29.509where do they get, phosphorus from?
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00:09:31.778Hopefully from their feed
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00:09:32.788Oh, okay.
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00:09:34.678So it has to be added in.
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00:09:38.149Well, I mean, they're gon- they're gonna eat it one way or another.
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00:09:56.788birds that free range a lot do typically consume less feed because they're eating grass, bugs, whatever, and they're getting a lot of those nutrients, provided that your farm has those nutrients available.
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00:10:02.918one of the problems that we battle in the South is essentially sucky ground.
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00:10:14.089our ground is nowhere near as healthy as it is up North and, we have to do stuff to it, but we can fix it and get it that way.
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00:10:30.189But if you have good nutrient-rich dirt and grow, like grass, just regular Bermuda, alfalfa, whatever grass, birds can, they can survive in that environment.
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00:10:30.359Hmm.
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00:10:31.389But
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00:10:31.418that-
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00:11:23.049They'll get their protein from the little b- the little bugs that are gonna be crawling all in the grass.
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00:11:25.408No, they're vegetarians.
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00:11:26.869Yeah, okay.
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00:11:30.379Just like you need a rooster so you can have eggs.
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00:11:31.379Uh-huh.
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00:11:36.679Okay, so the phosphorus comes from, like natural plants and things like that?
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00:11:37.519Yeah.
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00:11:37.869Okay.
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00:11:38.778All right.
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00:11:40.609So what about vitamin D?
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00:11:44.979Where is that If they're not getting it from, enough from the sun, where are they getting it from?
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00:11:47.089their feet, feed.
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00:11:55.949Jeff and I was talking the other day because there's a large number of people that love to put vitamins in the water.
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00:12:03.019And do you know how many vitamins are actually water-soluble?
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00:12:06.429Well, I know because you tell me, but go ahead.
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00:12:07.719Touche.
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00:12:22.528So if you spend that, like 70,$80 for that kilo tub, the two-pound jar-looking thing, that's got 100 different vitamins in it, that's cool.
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00:12:27.009But if they don't drink it while it's in suspension, they're not gonna get it
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00:12:38.528Okay, so this is gonna be sort of a tangent, but things that people don't think about is, you alluded to it, that the ground is not as healthy.
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00:12:42.929If the ground isn't healthy, then the plants aren't as nutritious.
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00:12:51.939If the plants aren't as nutritious, the feed can't be as nutritious, which means the birds don't get the nutrition they need when we feed it to them.
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00:12:52.778Right.
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00:13:01.859So it's important, I guess, to make sure that the ground is taken care of to grow the nutritious feed.
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00:13:14.479I mean, y- everybody- It's a cycle will tell you, like all the farmers, the ones that are known for pasture-raised this, and I'm a member of APPA and I go to their conferences every year.
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00:13:28.289That's the American Pasture Poultry Producer Association, and every seminar that I've sat in that talks about, it a- it all starts with the dirt.
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00:13:39.299Because the dirt, you can plant whatever you want, but if the nutrients are not in the dirt, they will not transfer to the plant.
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00:13:54.459And then the plant won't grow it and be able to give those nutrients to your chickens, your pigs, your cows, your goats, whatever you have grazing it and eating it.
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00:14:02.908So i- it's very important, and in the South, a lot of it is acidic.
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00:14:15.879So which I really hate that a lot of ag extensions is who people go to for their soil samples.
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00:14:26.989they'll take soil sample and say,"All right, you put two tons of chicken crap per acre, and your stuff'll grow better." Well, duh.
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00:14:32.769That- It's not gonna get worse, so yeah.
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00:14:47.139But if you're in the South and your dirt is already acidic, and you put literally hot crap straight out of a chicken house on it, it's gonna be a little more acidic.
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00:14:50.649And then your...
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00:15:00.269what you're growing ain't gonna reap the benefits from it till, next year when the acidity level comes down, and that's assuming you don't put more crap on it the next year.
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00:15:23.329more often than not, a pH test is as important or almost as important as a soil test because We have acidic there's people in the South that literally all they need is calcium carbonate lime on the, on their dirt to get the pH to, six to seven-
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00:15:24.359Hmm
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00:15:25.429to have healthy soil.
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00:15:31.579Well, maybe you should test mine,'cause I'm fixing to disperse Mount Poopmore across my yard.
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00:15:33.569I can do that.
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00:15:34.569Okay.
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00:15:35.129Well, we'll
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00:15:35.408make a
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00:15:35.839video about that.
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00:15:38.179that's a service that we offer.
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00:15:59.449we, we'll actually take small samples from all over, put them in a bucket that's been bleached so nothing from the outside gets in it to mess it up, and then we take your dirt and we mix it up real good, and then we fill the sample bag and send it to the lab.
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00:16:02.339That way it's got a good mix of the whole area.
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00:16:09.569So when you do get an answer, it'll be a good average, and you'll have better chances of it actually working.
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00:16:11.189Interesting.
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00:16:20.219But in the South, it is possible to graze animals and not buy hay If your dirt's healthy.
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00:16:25.959Because people up north, they don't buy a lot.
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00:16:30.719there's a lot of them up there that will make it and sell it down here.
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00:16:41.579and, even My son and I have had this conversation because he's cheap, and he don't like spending money, and I tried to tell him about this.
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00:16:53.519Texas has pretty good soil, and I'm like,"Well, why do you get cows You get cows from Texas, right?""Oh yeah, that's where the Beefmaster started." I,"Yeah.
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00:16:57.969How much hay are they feeding out there?" none.""Oh.
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00:16:59.139Hmm.
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00:17:07.378Somebody probably They probably got healthy soil." I ain't spending that kind of money." we get in it every year.
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00:17:38.848Last year, I did a five-acre plot there on his main farm, and I fertilized it like I wanted to, and I planted the cover crop like I wanted to, and I told him to keep stuff off of it for, 45 days after it was planted to grow, and don't let them eat it down below five inches, and keep them off of it again for 30 days.
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00:17:43.719And if you could do that, I said it'll probably grow all year.
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00:17:45.019Ain't no way.
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00:17:45.898Yeah.
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00:17:51.538Probably will It was the greenest part of his yard for two years
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00:17:53.398Soil health.
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00:17:53.818Mm-hmm.
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00:17:59.528So that brings us back to our v- calcium, phosphorus, and vitamin D.
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00:18:14.928So when a chicken lays an egg and we incubate that egg, the chick actually will absorb a lot of the calcium out of the egg shell to use- Mm-hmm in its own formation.
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00:18:15.598Right.
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00:18:27.228So when we talk ab- when people ask, why didn't their chicks hatch, or why do they have these deformities, and we always say,"You have to go all the way back to the beginning," and this is one of the reasons why.
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00:18:28.888Always an incubator issue.
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00:18:30.768It's not always a shipping issue.
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00:18:30.808Mm-hmm.
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00:18:49.688We've got to go all the way back to the beginning, and that is why I feed your feed to my, animals that I sell the hatching eggs off of, because then my customers get the best possible hatch results.
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00:18:56.068And that's a question that people should be asking when they're looking for sellers, what do you feed them?
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00:19:10.668Because if they just feed them corn and they're in a cage, well, those eggs may not be as good to be used as incubating eggs as they would be just maybe for eating eggs.
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00:19:22.308Well, and like our friend Brittany, the quail lady from Freedom, Freedom, bluh-lah-lah, Freedom- Freedom Flyers Flyers, they've got quite a few quail.
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00:19:23.048Mm-hmm.
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00:19:38.938And they make their feed on the farm, and they mix corn meal, soybean meal, and a vitamin premix that is specifically designed for their feed.
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00:19:44.148it takes half to corn meal, half of it soybean meal.
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00:19:56.448What you get from that, this vitamin mineral mix is all the other stuff to get it where it needs to be, and that's why, she has really good hatch rates-
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00:19:57.298Mm-hmm
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00:20:02.588which, her smallest incubator or hatcher only holds- 56,000.
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00:20:03.508Yeah, I know.
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00:20:04.478They're huge.
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00:20:05.018So-
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00:20:06.458Okay.
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00:20:16.608So it's very important to make sure that just because you have thin shells or something one thing off, you have to look at the whole big picture.
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00:20:16.638Yeah.
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00:20:26.208This is one more ex- this is one more example of just sitting back and looking the whole big picture can answer a lot of questions.
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00:20:34.728And so the last thing I'm gonna ask you, because it's always so controversial, can roosters- Oh eat laying feed?
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00:20:36.218I hope so.
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00:20:40.212If not- mine would be dead.
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00:20:41.912Mine too.
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00:20:53.772my brood fowl, whether it's a large fowl, game fowl, turkey, like during breeding season I feed them breeding feed.
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00:21:11.512And, like I said before, mine uses the oyster shells for extra calcium, so the roosters, even though they do dumb stuff, they're smart enough to know that they don't need it, so they'll eat around it.
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00:21:12.522Mm-hmm.
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00:21:24.202it's just y- you feed the same stuff and you'll have times where there's lots of rocks in the bottom of your trough, and then you'll have times where there's none.
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00:21:29.732Because, they don't need everything right then.
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00:21:30.982Right.
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00:21:31.002A-
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00:21:33.002and they're smart enough to know that.
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00:21:40.492And we cycle off, they don't get laying feed when they're not laying.
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00:21:43.662we both- Mm I think, cycle off.
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00:21:49.682And so in the off season, like my turkeys have already switched all the way over to off flock.
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00:21:56.122And as everybody stops laying and they're going through the molt, everybody will be switched over to off flock.
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00:22:04.932And then when laying season picks back up again in late December or so, then they all start switching back over to layer.
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00:22:06.552So it's a-
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00:22:13.212And like for me- it's an ebb and flow I'll use the, developer on young birds.
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00:22:17.632I'll use the conditioner developer on birds that aren't laying.
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00:22:36.702And when they start laying, if I still got half a pallet of developer, then I'm going to my, grow out and I'm gonna put me a scoop of eggshells in the other side of the cement block.
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00:22:46.672And- That's what, that If they need extra calcium, that's where they're gonna get it until I change it- Yeah to where the extra eggshells is already in the feed.
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00:22:47.672Mm-hmm.
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00:22:57.292So, and, for those of y'all that haven't seen that before, I actually straight up hijacked this from our friend Gina over at Rather Farms.
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00:23:00.292You take a concrete block and set it on the side.
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00:23:04.882I mean, for chickens it's practically indestructible.
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00:23:15.902You fill up one side with grit, fill up the other side with egg, air, I mean oyster shells, or eggshells and oyster shells, whatever, and when they need it, they get it.
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00:23:17.352Mm-hmm.
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00:23:24.892When it rains, the rain goes through it and cleans it out, but it doesn't make it spread out and go everywhere.
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00:23:25.852Mm-hmm.
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00:23:27.282So works pretty good.
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00:23:28.512Yeah.
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00:23:29.842Yeah, we're terrible salesmen.
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00:23:32.152Here's a concrete block.
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00:23:34.812So, yep.
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00:23:44.182Yeah, I mean, I had a guy look at me funny the other day because he wanted something that I had already priced, and I chose not to carry it.
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00:23:53.102And I told him, I said,"Well, the best place around here that I know to go get that is Tractor Supply." And he looked at me kind of funny.
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00:23:59.632He's like,"You're gonna send me to Tractor Supply?" I said,"Dude, they have 50-pound bags of lime for five bucks.
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00:24:01.282I can't compete with that.
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00:24:18.942I'm not gonna try, and I feel wrong charging you$7 to$8 for it here when it's right up the road for a lot less." But- Even though I have insomnia, I still sleep good at night.
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00:24:33.912Okay, so basically the moral of the story is just spend the money on quality nutrition, not on gadgets, like cement blocks, and grit feeders.
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00:24:34.302Yeah.
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00:24:35.852So we, I think-
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00:24:38.712Oh, yeah, don't ever buy a grit or oyster shell feeder
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00:24:48.362I think from the beginning of our podcast we have harped on spend the money on infrastructure and nutrition.
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00:24:48.812Yeah.
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00:25:00.862And we've never said,"Hey, go find the, find this$10 feeder because it's fantastic." I mean, we have some that we really like, but at the end of the day, I still use a lot of buckets.
00:25:01.622 -->
00:25:15.212I'm gonna tell you right now, I got some feeders that cost a lot more than$10, but that's because a 10-foot long piece of gutter is more than$10.
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00:25:17.012Mm, there you
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00:25:17.962go.
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00:25:17.992God.
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00:25:22.072And it's really hard to cut a six-inch piece of pipe in half.
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00:25:23.492It is really hard.
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00:25:24.042We've done it.
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00:25:25.672Makes a great feeder, though.
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00:25:25.732All right.
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