Homeless, Haunted, and Unstoppable: The Chernoney "Ed" Stephenson Story

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Hello, and welcome to Missing the Shift podcast and this
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special Thanksgiving and I guess I should also say the
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return of Stranger Things addition, and this is season two,
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episode eight And to everyone listening, we get Missing the
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Shift podcast and will listen meeting in Entertainment. Wish you
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and your family a very safe and happy Thanksgiving. And
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if you're listening for the first time, when my name
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is Wingmanet Junior and I'm your host, as a new listener,
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you may be asking yourself why missing the Shift. In
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the past, I spent time on the NASCAR circuit and
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in the NASCAR race. If a driver misses a shift,
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what can cause them to get way behind in the race,
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cause them to have engine failure, engine problems, getting direct
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or even worse. And this missshift doesn't just affect them,
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but also their crew are possibly others around them letting
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this similar to what happens in life. We think we're
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going in the right direction and everything might be great,
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and then all of a sudden, we miss that shift
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for the bad decision that could throw us completely off
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track and make our lives go into a direction that
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we never thought it would. This podcast will look at
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stories from people that have missed the shift in life
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next guest. Well I said, this is season two, episode eight,
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and we have a very special episode for you today.
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Very close here, friend of mine is on the show today.
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Ed Stevens is here to talk to us about his
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return from being homeless for over a year and we're
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looking forward to that as solicious dive right into season
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two episode eight. Ed, welcome to the show.
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Nice to be here, Wayne, Thank you very much.
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Absolutely so. Ed is currently a base officer at Kayang
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Base in Louisville, Kentucky. He's also an instructor of the
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Kentucky CCDW course and a Security guard course. He is
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co owner and instructor at the Hill Training Academy, which
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is an academy that instructs individuals that want to become
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an executive protection agent. So if you ever have aspirations
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to protect individuals out there, our links and everything or
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their links will be up on the website. And he's
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also an American Heart Association instructor and so, and he
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is a absolutely great friend of mine, a brother from
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another mother. I would say so again, Ed, welcome to
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the show.
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Thanks Wayne, Thanks pleasure to be here.
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Ed.
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I know that you're now in Kentucky, but and so
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how's it going?
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I love it? I love it. Kentucky to me is
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one of those places, if not many know about it,
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winner is a little rough compared to South Carolina, but
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overall a very beautiful state, very beautiful state.
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Absolutely, And so you didn't so you mentioned South Carolina.
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So you were you born and raised in South Carolina
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or are you from just moved to South Carolina?
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Born and raised in Long Island, New York. I left
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Long Island or I left New York after nine to
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eleven a move to South Carolina. My mother was in
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South Carolina and I stayed there up until twenty twenty.
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One, Okay, and then you moved to Kentucky. So let's
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talk a little bit about the executive protection side of it.
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So you're currently I'm the co owner and one of
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the founders of the Hill Training Academy. And so tell
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me what you do tell me what I know that
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that used to be in South Carolina, and so tell
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me what you do there as the co owner.
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As one of the owners at the hill. What we
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teach is executive protection or high level security. We don't
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like to call it by that B word or bodyguard,
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because it's more than being a bodyguard. You know, there
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are a lot of skills to protecting people and to
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really get out there and be able to get good clients.
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It takes that skill set, and you know, it's more
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than just Hey, I've taken one class. You know, I've
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went to several different places, not just to become an
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executive protection agent, but to be able to teach it
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because it's always evolving, you know, the bad guys always
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doing something different, so we have to be right there.
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With them, right and so how long have you done that?
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So I was honored this year by doctor holy Pheield
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for ten years as an executive protection specialist and over
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twenty years in security altogether.
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So you originally took the course in Atlanta? Is that correct?
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Yes, sir, yes, sir.
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Okay, all right, And so any high level dignitarians that
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you've protected out there.
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That I guess on the state or federal level. My
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highest position is I worked for the Department of State
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at a flexi out in Charleston. I worked out there,
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And being a protection agent doesn't always mean Hey, I'm
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going to be with a particular client. Yet some of
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my clients I've worked with love and hip hop, I've
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worked with Lil Boosie, I've worked with New York author
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Ken dy X. So it's a broad feel when you
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say protection, and a lot of people think that every
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time we're doing executive protection, we have on our suit
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and ties, and it's not always that. Who's your colon
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is Nikita Sherman. He teaches the Hill down in Orlando, Florida.
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Excuse me, Tampa, he's down in the Tampa area. Actually
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he initially started as one of my instructors. And actually
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that's how me and you met, Wayne, You was actually
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an instructor of mine.
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Any hiccups along the way with that, anything that you
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would change, has it always been greater?
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I think any career, you know, no path that we
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take will be perfect, you know, and everything is going
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to have its ups and downs. I think my first
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couple of years and executive protection, the overall I don't
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want to say issue. It was finding the clients, finding
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where I could showcase my skills, and I was really
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really blessed that on my first year coming out well,
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thanks to doctor Leonard Holyfield and more restorting, I was
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able to land a contract with Tiger spont and we
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worked on the Adapple pipeline here and going out there
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was literally what opened up the door. The downside was
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I decided to take some time off of contracting, and
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what I learned is in contracting, one day off puts
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one hundred people ahead of you. You have to stay
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in and you have to stay in it if you're
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going to be out there contracting. It is a constant
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thing and it's a sacrifice with family. But that that
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would probably be my hardest part of the career, just
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making sure that I'm staying current.
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Now, let's let's switch gears for a little bit. Just
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missing the shift is about it could be a personal
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mistake that you might have made, or you know, a
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professional mistake that you might have made, and how you
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overcame that. And certainly we've known each other a long time,
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so you know why the show's all that. But on
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the personal side, things haven't always been been good for you.
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I'm just gonna be candid. Things haven't always been great.
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And at one point you were actually homeless, is that right? Yeah?
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Yeah, my mom's my mom's past, and I started making
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poor choices, you know, poor choices, and I found myself that,
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you know, for almost a year that I was homeless,
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you know, and it's something that you think it'll never
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happen to me, It'll never happen to me. I'm always there.
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Yet I was lucky that I had a friend who
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had a little shack. It was just big enough for
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an air mattress and a heater, and it kept me
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out of the elements. Yet even when I was homeless,
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I never stopped working. I never stopped praying.
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You know.
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I believe that no matter what we go through, there's
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a message in it, and we have to we have
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to not listen with our two physical ears. We have
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to be able to listen with our spiritual ear and
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here hear what's happening.
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You know.
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Way, brother, that was the hardest thing I ever been through,
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ever been through.
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Were there moments that you wanted to give up?
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Hey? You know, and I'm gonna speak openly, I don't
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think a lot of people realize and insecurity, in law enforcement,
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in the military. You know, when we go through things
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that work, do you want to give up or do
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you feel like giving up? Yeah? We do, We do
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a lot, you know, and it you know, the saddest
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part is I don't want to say everybody has the ability,
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but we carry a tool that gives us that ability,
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you know, and you have to stay strong and say
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you know what, nah nah. And there were many days
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Wayne that I wanted to give up, many days, but
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I'm thankful for prayer, very thankful for prayer.
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Right. And so that was almost a year. And in
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the beginning, there were times you were living out of
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your car, is that right?
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It was a little little uhau.
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And so eventually, how did you, like, how did you
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fight your way through that? I mean, there there may
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be an individual who's listening to this show that you know,
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they're they're they're ready to you know, just like we
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were just talking about, ready to give up, or they're
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going through, you know, something tough in their life. And
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so how did how did you come out of it? Like?
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How did you?
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I would have to say, prayer, prayer, And even on
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my darkest days, digging deep within myself, dig digging deep
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in within myself, learning to trust that spiritual voice and
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not that inner me voice. And I kept working. I
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think one of the biggest things was I kept working.
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You know, even though I didn't have, you know, a
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traditional home, I had somewhere that I could go and
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rest my head and then I would get up and
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I w I would still go to work. And as
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long as I kept working, things kept happening. You know. Actually,
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it was at that time that I landed the contract
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for the Department of State. So even though I was,
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you know, I was going through something, you know, here
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it was I had an opportunity, and landing that contract
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was one of the things that really really motivated me
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to just keep going forward because here it was, you know,
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that was the first time I ever had clearance, and
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having that it showed that, you know what, no matter
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what people have said, no matter what obstacles came before me,
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I crossed the line. I finished. You know. So if
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anybody's out there, you know, the biggest thing is one
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never stopped praying. Don't think that he's not listening, you know,
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don't think that he's not listening, And just just keep pushing,
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keep pushing.
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And now coming out of that after you were in
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landed in Kentucky. But that wasn't always smooth either, was it.
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Well, it was you know, it's been you know, we've
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had some ups and downs and it's been rough, you know.
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Yet I believe in communication. You have to have to
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be able to talk. You know, one thing about life,
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nothing's going to be perfect. Nothing, Nothing's going to be perfect.
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So I've been able to endure. I'm very blessed to
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have the woman that I have in my life. She
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keeps me motivated, she keeps pushing me.
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Mhm. Sometimes different things that you see. And so you were,
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you were a witness to the horrible tragedy that occurred
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in Louisville, Kentucky with the ups Aroliner, and so tell
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us a little bit about that. I mean, I think
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you were. You were actually right there.
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Yes, where where I work we share runways with you, Yes,
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as well as Muhammad Ali Airport, and it you know,
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as many days that I worked out there, I would
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look out there and I'd be like, Hey, I'm in
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the middle of Louisville. There's nothing that's going to happen
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out here. And it changed my life.
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You know.
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We had just pretty much got to the end of
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the day. It was downtime, and I heard the plane
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kind of revving up, and then I heard a weird noise,
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which later I found out that weird noise was when
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the engine was coming off of the plane. And then
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as I looked up, I could just see flames just
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going across the back of the airport. As a first responder,
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as a protector, the first thing I wanted to do
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is help. Yet my first job at that time was
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to hold the restricted area. That was my job, and
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just report two hours of sitting out in jet fuel
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in the air and paper and sparks flying on just
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dropping out of the sky. It was it was like
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living in your worst the worst thriller movie ever. You
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could hear the explosions. It was a lot happening. And
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the blessing, you know, and I don't want to say
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it's a blessing, but fifteen minutes prior to that, the
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wind changed, and that's why the plane went that way.
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have pretty much came right up the runway in front
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of me and into the hotel and the Interstate on
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the north side of the airport.
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would have been.
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you know, I was still in disbelief.
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time meant Lee I was from that event.
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being able to help? How did that make you feel? Uh?
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I felt I felt useless. Yeah, I I you know,
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and I remember when you first trained me, and you know,
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you showed me that video. Hey, here's one of your
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teammates down in the middle of the road. What are
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you going to do? And I raised my hand, I said,
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I'm going in there for my brother. You said, good answer,
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and you showed the next slide and it was two
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people down. I felt at that point, even if I
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knew that I was going to still be in danger
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from the explosion. As a first responder, that's what you
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that's what that's what we do. That's what that's what
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we do. And not being able to do that in
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any form of fashion, whether it was directing traffic or
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I don't know. I just I could do anything. Yet
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my coworkers told me, they said, hey, man, you did
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a great job. You communicated, you was one of the
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first people to communicate, You held the line, you did
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everything we needed you to do. Yet inside I felt
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like I just I just could have done more right.
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little bit of a toll on it.
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it first happened. Every day I was watching the news
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and every analysis of it, and you know, watching the
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death toll go up, and it got to the point where,
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you know, in the morning's going to work, I was
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having bad anxiety attacks. I'm very thankful for, you know,
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my family. I'm very thankful for my king, my base family. No,
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because they have been there for me. You know. They
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let me know, like, hey, even though it didn't happen
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on this base, you know, it happened close enough that
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it affected not just you, Stevenson, but many people. But
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we want to let you know we are there for you.
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You know. So I have to take my hat off
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to Cane Airbase in Louisville. Man, those are the one
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twenty third, one third great group of men and women
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out there, right, So.
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I think the death toll now is up about up
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to fourteen or looking at it a little bit. They
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said that it struck the ups building and the awful
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tragedy to the families and everybody that was effective. Of
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our hearts go out to them. But certainly the show
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is about helping individuals, and so you know, we learned
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from everything that happens to us in life, right, and
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so there might be somebody that's out there listening to
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the show that you know, feels that same way that
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you did about maybe something personal or maybe something in business,
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to where it's just like, you know, I'm just I'm
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just useless at my job. You know, I'm being told
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I'm useless at home. What advice would you give them?
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You're certainly seem to be on the road to recovery.
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And I say recovery because and as a firefighter paramedic
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myself in the past, I certainly can understand exactly what
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you're talking about. I mean, there were times that we
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wanted to do more and we couldn't, and you know it,
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it sits with you for weeks, you know, you think
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about it over and over. What could I have done differently?
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What could I have done differently? And so from about
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a week and a half ago to today, Yeah, I
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mean you look like you're improving and doing better and
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so you know, certainly you mentioned having those people behind you,
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and so, yeah, what advice would you give to somebody
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that might be you know, might be a CEO of
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a company. They may be going through some difficult times
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and they may just be sitting there and saying, Hey,
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I I should have never done this in the first place.
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I'm worth us, I'm useless at this. Everything I touched
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doesn't work. How could we relate that to the business world?
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I would most definitely say, you know, in the business world,
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you know, it's like the market added this up to
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has its downs, you know, it has new innovations that
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take away old things, and sometimes the old things we
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just add new technology, you know, and they become useful again.
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For me, it was something old that my mother had
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given me and I was a connection with God. I
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started to pray more. I started listening to gospel music
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more than I have ever in my life, and that
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started to allow me to heal. It started it allowed
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me to start listening. I was able to cut out
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those other voices that said I couldn't, that I wouldn't,
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you know, and it allowed me to hear you can
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because I created you that you can. And if you're
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never tested, you know. The biggest thing that I asked
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myself is why did I see this? And I know
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there are other people that saw it, but why did
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I see it? And then I started looking up the numbers.
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You know, it's eight hundred and fifty seven million, so
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many hundreds of thousands of chances of seeing a plane crash.
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You have a better chance of hitting the lottery than
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seeing a plane crash. And I told myself, I said,
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maybe God is preparing me for something. Maybe he's maybe
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he allowed me to see this to prepare me for something.
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So I would say to anybody, whether it's your personal
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life or it's your business life, you know, life is
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going to have its ups and downs. Life is full
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of seasons, and sometimes we have these harsh winners in
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our life, all right, But if we surround ourselves with
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the right people and the right words, we will see
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that Sometimes it's the small things that we needed to change.
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And it was some things that this event, I don't
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want to say it forced me to check, but it
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allowed me to recognize some things. And one of those
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things is you know of But I had a session.
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I had to have a session, and having that session
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it allowed me to see that there were some other
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things that I needed to work on, and working on
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those things continually have made me better. And I was
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a person waying that I didn't believe that talking to
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somebody could help. And it was amazing that within asking
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me three questions, three key questions, it was you know,
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I was able to see that. So once again, I'm
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thankful for the word, you know. And I would tell
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anybody you know, no matter what you believe in, all right,
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you have to believe in it. You have to stay
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true to that word. And I think a lot of people,
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you know, even for me, and I can I'll speak
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for me. At some point I wasn't staying true to
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the word. And I'm learning. I'm learning. I'm learning every
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day every day.
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And okay, and Hi, I agree with you one hundred percent,
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But what about what about those individuals that might be listening,
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that might might not be religious, what would you say
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to them? I mean, I'm certainly not trying to turn
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the show into a religious show, because you know, we
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could talk about that for hours. But if I'm if
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I'm a CEO, that's or or even a personal or whatever.
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And I'm just like, okay, yeah, but I prayed and
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and I've done all that, and God's just not interested
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in me. And I don't even believe he's real. And
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I mean, what, what would you what advice would you
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give them?
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Well, I would tell them they know if they believed
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in that business enough to believe that it is real,
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when they look in the mirror, they know that they're real.
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So once again, at least believe in yourself, believe in
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that idea that you thought of that at one point
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was making you tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions
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of dollars. Then you had something happen in your life,
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maybe your wife left you, maybe you wind up being homeless.
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All right, no matter what happened, I knew one thing
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I could always teach, all right, And I never gave
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up on teaching, And that's one of the things that
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helped me, all right. I never gave up on teaching,
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and I never gave up on myself. So even when
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I said, you know, you have to believe in something,
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or people be like, well, what do you call quote
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unquote god? Some people call them god, some people people say, well,
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it ain't about what you call them? Do you call them?
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All?
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Right? So sometimes look for that greatness in yourself. That
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greatness is in you now. And that's what I would
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tell anybody from a business perspective. It's not about a
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mystery man, because we can always look into that mirror
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and see the man the woman within ourselves. Whatever you
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however you look look at that, tell yourself you know what, Yeah,
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I had a bad Yeah I didn't I didn't make
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my numbers. You know what, even though I've been divorced,
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even though I've had to start all over, still got this.
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I can still do this.
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And so what advice would you give to and those
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that are listening that that you know, sometimes experience far
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out weighs a wall full of degrees. So you know
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what advice would you give those to? Somebody who their
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voices in their head are louder? Right, hmmm, Not only
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the voices in their head, but I would say the
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voices that you know, the voices from individuals that might
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have you know you mentioned divorced, maybe an ex wife.
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You know that that buzz is in that ear, and
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you know, and then you've got other people in your
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ear because you know, certainly, when divorce happens or breakup
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happens or anything like that, you know, there's a line
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drawn to where sides are. You know, sides are drawn, right,
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you know, And sometimes you look at that and you're like, Okay,
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well I did nothing to that person, so I don't
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even understand there. But you know, yeah, I mean, what
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what because I know sometimes from talking to you in
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the past that you know, those those voices were there,
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and and sometimes you know, because even when you called me,
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there were times that I even felt bad because I
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couldn't help you, like I wanted to write and and
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I know some of your other friends were the same way, right,
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And so how did you overcome all of those obstacles together?
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I know I've thrown a lot at you, so you can,
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you know, but certainly right, I mean, you know, you've
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got an ex wife and this here, and you've got
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you know, friends that are that you thought you could
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count on, and they're for you know, some friends that
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you think you can count on but all of a
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sudden they don't return that call. Right, you know, what
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would you say? I mean, I mean there's certainly individuals
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that have that, and so that weighs heavy on them.
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how did you overcome that? As well?
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I would say with the voices. And this may sound funny,
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I just gave them something to sing. So instead of
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them all just saying different things, Hey, let me put
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you out all on the same sheet of music, right,
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and instead of it sounding like voices, it just became
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this most beautiful chorus or choir.
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You know.
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All I had to do was make sure that I
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told it what I wanted it to sing. You know,
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we have to become the directors of our lives, and
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sometimes it's really hard, man, when we're going through it.
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It's really hard to find those things deep down inside,
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to quiet those voices. So I gave them some music
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to sing. Do they try to sing off key? At times?
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They do? They do, they try to sing off key.
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But it's like exercising. We have to keep we have
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to keep repeating it, you know, as as trainers as
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you know a CMT, you know, we keep our skills
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up because we keep training repetition, repetition. So it's not
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just showing that, you know, getting those voices to sing
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that sheet of music one time. It's always telling them
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the sing this song, sing this song, and hey were
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tired of singing that song, Well, let me get you
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another song to sing. And it's always something positive, it's
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always something motivational.
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You know.
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The word enemy and I got this from Deepak Chopra
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Man a great author of deep Ok Chopra. The word
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enemy if you if you listen to it, it sounds
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like inner me. And sometimes that's our biggest enemy is ourselves.
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We can always tell ourselves anything we want up here.
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The biggest fight is saying, you know what, that's not you,
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that's not you. Ed you know you're grater in that. Yeah,
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you fell down. You had something hard, but trust and belief,
486
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trust the process. You fell down because now you know
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what it is to appreciate shakes, certain things. You know.
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Now you learn that next time when you hear that
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voice that says take a right turn, you take that
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right turn. So that's how I've been able, and that's
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what I would tell anybody. You know, give those voices
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something to do. Let them sing something.
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I'm not sure how to follow up that one. That
494
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is great advice. And so now you you you know
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you're married. You're about to teach a course in Kentucky.
496
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Is that right?
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Yes, sir, we're getting ready. I don't want to say
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to do something really big and great here in Kentucky.
499
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Through my research, nobody's really teaching executive protection, and the
500
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days of security of what used to be are changing.
501
00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:51.960
From my perspective, unarmed security is just in the the
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current state of our union. It's it's it's not helping undertrained.
503
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You know, we could. I could show you a million
504
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:04.039
YouTube videos of guys and you can tell that they
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00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:08.240
have and had good training. What executive protection is good for.
506
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.880
It shows you how to be there and operate and
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provide a service of help. For the most part, that's
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what I'm doing. If you need me to drive your car,
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00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.319
if you were my client, I'm going to drive your car.
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00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:22.359
If you need me to wash your car, I'm gonna
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do it. If you need me to drop your kids off. Yet,
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if things get bad, I have the skills and the
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ability to take care of the situation. You can take
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those skill sets. And as you see, you can put
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me with love and hip hop, you can put me
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at King, you can put me with the Department of State,
517
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and that skill it's still the same skill. It's still
518
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the same skills. So I thought, you know, one of
519
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.720
the you know, you know, and I have to open
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this door because you ask now. So I always thought
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about the wonderful the people who've taught me to be
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this agent, to be this protector. And Nikita, my business partner,
523
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.920
and doctor Holy Phil. Actually, Nikita called me one day
524
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:09.000
and I was at work and he said, hey, I
525
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.359
got somebody on the phone. I said who, and he
526
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.359
clicks over and he says, hey, Ed, and it's doctor
527
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Holy Phil. The three of us haven't been on the
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phone together since twenty nineteen.
529
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I was about to say it's been a while.
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A wow, and instantly within the conversation and I'm gonna
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try to make this as short as possible. The first
532
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.680
thing I started thinking was, when the three of us
533
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were together and we were teaching, we could put together
534
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:38.759
some amazing programs. Thirty forty students in a class going
535
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.799
back out taking this skill set around the world to
536
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:46.680
be good providers of protection. So halfway through the conversation,
537
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I said, Hey, guys, wouldn't it be awesome if the
538
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:54.359
three of us put something together here in Kentucky next year. Yeah,
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00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:55.880
I kind of set it up. Yeah, I kind of
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baged unless they baited everybody into it and the room
541
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got quiet and everybody happily agreed. So the last week
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00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:09.599
of March twenty twenty six, as being March twenty third
543
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.559
through the twenty eighth, we are going to have a
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five day executive Protection Specialist program textbook versus real world.
545
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That's what the event is called. Fifteen hundred dollars. You'll
546
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walk away with five certifications, everything from firearms, executive protection,
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00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:34.240
basic life savings, and close quart of combat, which to
548
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:39.039
me are the pillars of what we do. You know,
549
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:42.160
it's one thing to be able to do things with
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your hands to hurt people, but it's a beautiful thing
551
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:46.759
to be able to do things with your hands and
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help people. So I believe that if you're going to
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00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.400
be a protector, whether it's basic security or executive protection,
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00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:55.839
you should have basic life saving skills. I think it's mandatory.
555
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.480
I would agree know that.
556
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:04.920
So the most beautiful thing would be if I could
557
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.319
get the guy and taught me. T. Triple C.
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I knew where you were going at I know, I know,
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I know.
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Hang, look you can always wish and and the wonderful
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00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.359
thing that the funding is starting to come in, So
562
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:23.319
who knows, I may be able to get you here.
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00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:27.200
But I just believe when you know, you are a
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00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:31.359
great instructor. So one thing, man, you know, I know
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00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:33.799
my brother has been through some things and I don't
566
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:38.039
know if anybody's been giving you your flowers. Man, you're great.
567
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.160
You're great. You know. From the day, first day that
568
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.759
I met you. You know, I was so taken over
569
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:47.039
by T. Triple C. Man, like I think that's how
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00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.920
we should always train. You know, basic life saving is good,
571
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:52.880
but knowing how to save lives and the heat of
572
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:57.680
the battle is miraculous. And you, your program, man, your
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00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:02.000
program kept us thinking, kept son. I told so, you know,
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and as a brother when I was in my stonm
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00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.400
you were there for me, even when you were in
576
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:11.039
one of the worst storms of your life, you know,
577
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:14.480
losing your dad and brother. I want to say thank you, Mike.
578
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.640
I got to give you your flowers, you know, so
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that the world can see. I don't think as as men.
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00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.519
We give each other our flowers so the world can see.
581
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:24.079
You know, it's like I don't want no flowers. I'm
582
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.079
a man, I don't need no flowers. So he's your
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00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:28.599
flowers brother, Thank you very much.
584
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:36.039
You're trying to sound like Dacks now, huh man. But
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you know, and with that too, I mean there's there's
586
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certainly a lot in what you know Ed is saying.
587
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.720
I mean, certainly I appreciate it, all of what he's saying.
588
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:49.079
But you know there's two things that I caught in
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that too that if you're listening, Yeah, it was twenty nineteen,
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00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:02.920
so five four years for no five years yeah, yeah,
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actually six years, six years years, so six years without
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00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:10.640
talking to somebody because of disagreements, and Ed and I
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00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:13.839
haven't really spoken in about a year and a half
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to two years almost. I mean, besides, you know, little
595
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:19.960
likes and comments on Facebook. But you know, so if
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00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.160
you're listening to the program, I mean, that's one thing,
597
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.200
like you know At is saying. I mean, you know
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that we all have people that are behind us that
599
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.240
we think we can count on, and then we have
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people behind us that we really can count on. Right
601
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And in the business world and in the personal world.
602
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.319
I mean that is so important, right, I mean, you know,
603
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:41.960
we all have those friends that we can call up
604
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and hey, everything will be fine, Everything will be fine.
605
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.240
But then you got those true friends that you don't
606
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:49.319
have to speak to them for a year, but when
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00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.559
you do need them, there right there, and you know,
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00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.279
so yeah, I mean I appreciate that. And I believe
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my calendar might be clear in March, so we'll talk
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offline about that, because certainly it would be great to
611
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be back with the group. But you know, if en up,
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I ask every guest this, so you know, we're all
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blessed in life. And so how do you give back? Like,
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00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:19.639
how do you how do you give back? So you know,
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00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:24.239
it may be a charity, it may be you know,
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00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.000
something you do at church, it may be how do
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00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:28.880
you give back?
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A few ways. One of the biggest ways I give
619
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back is where a lot of instructors won't teach a
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class if there's a particular number. If somebody calls me
621
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and they need a class and they're like, hey, I've
622
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.760
called everybody else and they're saying it's three months out.
623
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I'll teach one person. I'll teach one person, all right,
624
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.280
I always tell that person, hey, if you come back,
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I'll always give you a discount, and I honor that.
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Then I am a free giver. I'm a free giver
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that if I walk in the store and there's somebody
628
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.400
that looks like they're in need or just sometimes just
629
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.559
randomly just paying for somebody's stuff.
630
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:12.679
You know, it's so funny that you said that, because
631
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:19.119
I've watched that guy online that goes behind the elderly
632
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.360
people and pay for their groceries and everything. You've seen that.
633
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:25.880
And I was in the grocery store yesterday and I
634
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.519
thought that same thing that you just said. I said, man,
635
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.000
I should have went up and just happed it, right,
636
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.079
But he had already checked out, and he had already paid,
637
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:36.039
and so I'm like, I gotta be a little bit
638
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quicker on the draw.
639
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.360
And it's two sides of that, because you know, some
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00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.159
people may get offended and be like, hey, I can
641
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.599
take care of myself. I don't need that. But you
642
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.800
know that's one way, and then the other way is talking.
643
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:53.320
You know, COVID really hurt our country. It's one of
644
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.559
the things that hurt our country. It called us to
645
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:59.119
stop talking, let alone the distance and have space. But
646
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:03.440
we stopped talking each other. We you know, racism and
647
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:06.760
all these things that we had finally started just saying, hey,
648
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.559
we can, we can have a great All these crazy
649
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.079
things came back. So I always take time just to
650
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.079
talk to people, and I talk to people not as
651
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.360
a black American, not as an African American, an American,
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00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.960
as an American. Because when I put on my uniform,
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if someone was to come over here, they're not going
654
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:28.880
to run past me and say, oh, we're not going
655
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.199
to kill Heaven. He's a black American, you know. Because
656
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:34.760
I have an American flag on my uniform, They're going
657
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.800
to take me down, all right. Because I speak English,
658
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.280
they're going to take me down. So my way of
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00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.679
giving back is, you know, I don't want to say
660
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doing with God or however you want to look at it,
661
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:48.920
doing what we're supposed to do as humans. Just give
662
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:54.039
love unconditionally nothing. I don't want nothing in return, just condition.
663
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You know, I'm a believer, So you don't have to
664
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not say God. You can you can say that I'm
665
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.199
just a you know, but I'm I was just asking
666
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:05.039
that for those that may not, but well that I mean,
667
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.599
that's that's that's awesome. And so where can people you know,
668
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.039
if they're listening to the show and they're interested in
669
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:14.079
that and or watching it on YouTube and they're interested
670
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.960
in the course, where can they find information about it
671
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:25.280
at you can listening Kentucky and they want to because CCCCDW.
672
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Is concealed gary deadly weapon.
673
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.400
Right, So if you're in Kentucky and you're listening to
674
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.480
the show and you want to carry your weapon concealed,
675
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:36.880
you can call it. And so where can they find you?
676
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.840
You can go to our website wis dot com at
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I am Nikita excuse me, I am Nikita Hill Training
678
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:47.960
dot com. You can reach me at three one zero
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00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:50.760
three six five four nine three six. That is my
680
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.800
direct number. You can also find us on the ABC
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00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.320
website for Kentucky and it's under Morgan Security as well
682
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:04.599
as Tchernoni Stevenson. I think that's everything. That's what everything,
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and I do have a no that is shut down.
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So that's all. That's all of them. That's all in
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00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.360
the ways that you could contact me. I used to
686
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.559
do the Instagram stuff and I think I might start
687
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:18.559
going back, but those are the biggest ways that you
688
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:20.119
can find me and you can see what type of
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training that we offer.
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Yeah, and we'll we'll put those links up on the website.
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00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.360
And yeah, we'll put all those links up on the
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00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:31.039
website as well as you know, some other information if
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you're if you're interested, and.
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So one more thing, one more thing.
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I was going to give you the last word, absolutely,
696
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go ahead.
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No past that. You always get the last word. I
698
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.320
just wanted to say, Jess in case anyone's out there
699
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.840
and you need protection as well, because I've talked about
700
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a lot of things, but that's the only thing I
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didn't touch.
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One go ahead.
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Some people think, because you know, they have so much money,
704
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they don't need protection, or they don't have enough money
705
00:38:56.239 --> 00:39:00.480
and they can afford protection. Look, get protection if you
706
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:03.199
need protection. If you're hearing this and you're not sure,
707
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.159
one of the things I do with security consulting as well,
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00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:08.480
let me give you an assessment. If you don't like
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00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:10.840
the assessment, hey you don't have to take it, but
710
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:14.039
you may find that, hey, you know what, protection is
711
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:17.840
not as expensive as I thought. So all waynes movie
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star friends, everybody out there. If you need me, I
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am dinner.
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00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:29.639
Yeah, yeah, that is awesome. Yeah, certainly you're you're exactly right.
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I mean it's not you know, sometimes it's not just
716
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.480
for the rich and famous that need it. You know,
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00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:41.400
we see that in the news every single day. And yeah,
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so and I'll give you the last words. You've spoke
719
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a lot, certainly, you know if you're listening to the show,
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and you know, from being on top of the world
721
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teaching executive protection of classes to thirty to forty people
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and just rocking and rolling to uh to homeless to
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get in past I mean homeless for a year. That's
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that's a long time. And you know, getting past that
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and and doing good and and now married in Kentucky
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and back you know, work in security. And so I'll
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give you the last word of advice on every you
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know what you would Yeah, I'll give you the last word.
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I just want to thank you, know you and missing
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Shift for inviting me on to be able to share
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my experience. You know, I look at life like you know,
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the world is always spinning. So depending on where you're standing,
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one day you're on the top, next day you're on
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the bottom. Just wait for your spind to come back around.
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You'll be right back there.
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Give your voices, don't forget to give your voices a
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sheet of music, give them something to sing, and and
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and looking to them even on your worst day, even
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when it's hard and the tears are coming down your
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face looking at the mirror, tell yourself how great you are,
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and you will get through this.
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Wayne, my brother, I love and appreciation from you, man.
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You know, you know, you know, one of the truest
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men that I know. All right, Thank you, brother, Thank you.
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Yeah. And like I said, Ed, you've you've fought your way,
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you know, bought your way back. Some would stay down,
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and so it's been great to have you on the show.
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And we certainly appreciate it. And like I said, we'll
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put all the links on the website, and we certainly
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appreciate you being on the show.
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Thank you, brother, I appreciate it. Thank you all right, And.
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Thank you so much again for coming on the show
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and sharing your your journey. And I know when we
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talked several weeks ago, it was going pretty rough for you,
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especially with what you saw with the ups plane crash,
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And thank you for sharing your journey from being homeless
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to where you are today. And thank you so much
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for listening. And be sure to prescribe so that you
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know when the episodes drop each Thursday, and follow me
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