Ghost Lore - Haunted Tennessee

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You're listening to Everything Out There with your host, Steve Stockton.
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Hello, friends. Hello, hello, everybody. Welcome back. Steve Stockton here
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with you. Everything Out There on the Clyde Lewis Ground
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Zero Radio Network. Thank you for joining us tonight. My
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guest tonight, once again, she's back for another round. All
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the way from East Tennessee, Kathita Cat Gray. You may
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know her from the YouTube channel Ghost Lore. And also,
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Lee G, First Floor Audio, wrote a song about her
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called Love Online. Strictly platonic, but it is a good song.
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And if Lee gives me permission, I'm going to play
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it during the break. But otherwise, Kathita, come on in.
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How you doing?
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Hey, how are you? Congratulations on your son, Holden.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Yeah.
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I missed a couple of weeks here, but I've been
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doing the radio show for a little over a year now.
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This fact, uh, if, uh, all things, uh, if I've
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been able to do them while the baby was being born,
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this would be episode 53, but it's just 51. But
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counting those two weeks in there, I didn't do one.
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So this is actually week 53. So a little over
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a year, uh, that I've been, uh, graciously permitted to
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be here on everything out there on the Clyde Lewis
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Ground Zero Radio Network. Thanks, Clyde and Ron and Mike
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and everybody associated with the show, all the producers and everybody.
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So what's going on in East Tennessee, Kathina? Did any
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of those floods get down to your area?
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Surrounded me, but there wasn't anything that I know of
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really too bad in my area. Yeah.
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I lived up in mountain city for about a year.
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It's in the extreme Northeastern tip of Tennessee and, uh,
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Rhone mountain up there got hit. And then just down
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the road, uh, Damascus, Virginia, where the Appalachian trail passes through.
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I think that whole town was underwater from the stuff
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I was looking at. The Appalachian trail, I think is
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close to there. A lot of those little towns. I
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was just surprised at how bad, uh, Carolinas and the
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parts of Tennessee got hit. Um, Pigeon Forge, Sevierville, Gatlinburg.
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I saw something earlier saying that the roads were out
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in the Smokies. And, you know, at 441 through the Smokies,
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a snowflake falls. They close it down anyway. But apparently
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the road is absolutely gone in some of those areas.
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So who knows? Prayers for those people up there in
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the mountains.
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Yeah. Now, a few years ago, we had some very
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bad rains. And there was a couple little landslides. A
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landslide behind an apartment complex collapsed. came down and just
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beat up the backside of that apartment complex. Just a big, snaky,
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curvy road going across up the mountain. There was somebody
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that lost their life coming around through there when a
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landslide came down and knocked them out of the road.
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Yeah, there's a lot of devastation, destruction, and deaths all
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over it. The toll just keeps climbing. Again, prayers for
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all those people. Well, tonight we're going to talk about
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haunted Tennessee. And as a lifelong resident of Tennessee, I
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hope you'll be able to give some insight on some
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of these things that I came up with here.
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I know a few little things. I'd love to know
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a lot more. Hey, learn every day, I guess.
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Yeah. There's always more stuff going on.
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I've loved the paranormal since I was a child.
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Yeah, same here, same here. I didn't choose it, it
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chose me. Somebody asked me that one time and said, Steve,
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why do you pick all this stuff to write about
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and then to talk about? I said, well, who says
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I picked it? I think you picked me.
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Yeah, I don't even give it thought. It's just like breathing,
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it's natural.
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Yeah, it just is.
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Yep, I can't help it. I don't tend to not
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listen to stories or something like that. I've never thought
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about having to not listen to it. I always have
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an open mind or an open heart and ear for it.
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I'm like, tell me more.
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Yeah. Well, Tennessee is a hotbed of paranormal activity with
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many historic locations boasting their own resident ghosts and spooky stories. Tonight,
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we're going to go over just a few of the
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most famous hauntings in this state. Let's go ahead and
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start with one of my favorites. that's the Bell Witch
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Cave and canoe rental now in Adams, Tennessee. Now they've
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added the canoe rental since I was there last time,
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but it's right there on the Red River. So I
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guess that makes sense. Have you ever been up there
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to the Bell Witch Cave?
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No, I've always heard so much about that though. It's
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always coming across my YouTube feed or there's some, some
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connection to it or somebody that's related to the family.
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I mean, um, Yeah, it's too extensive stuff to go
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in here, but we'll just briefly, you know, no list
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of Tennessee hauntings I don't think would be complete without
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the infamous Bell Witch, an entity that tormented the Bell
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family in the early 1800s and still haunts the cave
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where she once resided. Visitors have reported hearing strange noises,
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feeling cold spots, and even seeing apparitions. And last time
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I was there, it's been a few years ago, but
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I heard some noises back in there. It's, it's a creepy,
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creepy place. And I was the only one there. She
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unlocked the big iron door that they've got over the entrance.
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So I know there wasn't anybody already in there. And, uh,
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I took some strange pictures. Sadly, I don't have them anymore.
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They got lost in a hard drive crash, but there's
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some pictures of some stuff down there that she said
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wasn't there. And, uh, Chris Kirby, the lady, her and
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her husband own it and, um, brightening stuff. She's got
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a couple of albums that, uh, When I was there,
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she probably got more than that now, photo albums that
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she showed me. She's taken some strange pictures, and people
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have sent her strange pictures back. One of the strangest
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was a picture of her daughter, who was just young
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at the time, and her friend sitting outside the entrance
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of the cave. And her daughter's got a snake around
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her neck. It looks like maybe a boa constrictor or
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something like that.
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That's scary.
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Yeah, she said, my daughter is absolutely terrified of snakes.
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And there's just two little girls looking in the camera
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and smiling. And her daughter has a snake around her neck.
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And she said, there is no way on earth that
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my daughter would have sat there and posed to the
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camera smiling with a snake around her neck. Now, how
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do you explain something like that? That's just weird.
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Yeah, is that a ghost snake or is the child possessed?
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I reckon it's some kind of apparition or something.
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The Bell Witch Haunting, it's right up there. It's getting
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to be known as one of the most known haunts
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of all time. It's very well known.
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And I would recommend to anybody that if you're in
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that area, it's definitely worth visiting. And I've got a
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list here that I'll go over. Next up, we've got
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the Reed House Hotel, which is in Chattanooga. I've been
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by there, but I haven't actually stayed there. Room 311
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in this historic hotel. It was rumored to be haunted
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by the ghost of Annalisa Netherly, a woman murdered in
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the room in the 1920s. Guests have reported seeing her apparition,
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as well as experiencing strange noises and unexplained occurrences. Have
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you ever been to Chattanooga?
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I don't think I have. Maybe passing through, going somewhere.
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Yeah, I used to have some cousins that lived down there,
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and I was young at the time, didn't spend a
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whole lot of time. but there are some creepy places anywhere,
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any older city like that.
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That's something I've never really got to do, but I
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plan on it. I want to go to some of
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these haunted attractions, preferably more personal private tours instead of
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like the big group tours or something, maybe like even
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do an investigation.
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Yeah, that'd be fun. And they have a website. It's
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called the Reed House Hotel, R-E-A-D, T-H-E-R-E-A-D, househotel.com. And they've
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got some really nice-looking rooms there. At our historic Chattanooga Hotel,
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we specialize in 1920s splendor while catering to modern tastes.
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The Reed House is a dazzling jazz-era gym with the
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trappings of a new hotel. 241 rooms, historic getaway boasts
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soaring lobby ceilings, dramatic chandeliers, checkered floors, and gleaming wood-clad walls,
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plus apparently a ghost. I don't know if they mention
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it on the site. A lot of places don't. Let's look. Yep,
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Room 311. Here it is on their website. Legend has
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it there's a ghost among us. Learn more about Annalisa Netherly,
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the Reed House's resident spirit. And there are many who
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believe Room 311 is haunted by the ghost of Annalisa Netherly,
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a guest who was allegedly beheaded in the bathtub. Holy cow.
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by Jealous Lover in 1927. Over the years, a number
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of guests have reported paranormal activity in the room, including
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unexplained noises, flickering lights, running water, shadowy figures, and more.
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The haunted room is well known by many locals who
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have experienced paranormal activity of their own. And if you
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go check it out on their website, there's a lot more.
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Guests who stayed in room 311 swear to have felt
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Elisa's presence. And some say they've even seen her. Room
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311 was restored to its original 1920 state during the
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hotel's latest renovation. Many of the original elements from Annalisa
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Nellie's time remain, including a vintage clawfoot tub, hopefully not
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the one she was beheaded in, and an AM radio.
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Throwback there. A magnet lock on the door requires the
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use of a physical key, just like hotel guests would
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have used in 1927. And tours of the room when
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it's not occupied are available upon request at the availability
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of a tour guide. So if you're in Chattanooga, Tennessee
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and surrounds, go check out the Reed House Hotel. And
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maybe you'll be introduced to Annalise and Natalie, who was
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allegedly beheaded in the bathtub in room 311. Spooky stuff there.
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Yeah. I kind of like the, well, they're not abandoned,
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but they have been preserved and open to the public
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for such things like ghost hunts and ghost tours. It's prisons, jails, prisons,
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like Tennessee State Prison in Nashville. Yeah.
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And another one that was on my list here that
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I'm going to be talking about, and I've been on
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her show. I'm trying to remember if Yeah, she was
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on this show, too. Historic Scott County Jail in Huntsville, Tennessee.
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Close to Oneida there. Ghost Biker. Ghost Biker. What's your
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name for a YouTube channel? Ghost Biker Garage or something
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like that. I've had her on. And they've got all
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kinds of unexplained stuff. Their former jail said to be
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haunted by the spirits of former inmates who died within
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its walls. Visitors have reported hearing screams, seeing apparitions. and
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feeling uneasy in certain areas. And they have a website.
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It's historicscottcojail.com. And they're open five days a week for tours.
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They have a museum there. Built in 1904, the jail
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is on the National Register of Historic Places and located
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in Huntsville, Tennessee. They have a true crime and law
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enforcement appreciation museum. Spans all three floors in a historic jail.
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and can be viewed during daytime general business hours. And
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if you enjoy the mysterious side, they offer flashlight tours,
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guided ghost hunts, and private paranormal investigations in our After
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Dark Tours, their After Dark Tours. But check out their
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website there, historicscottcojail.com. And they've got some events coming up,
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especially here in spooky season. They've got a haunted history walk.
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And then they do their after dark there. They have
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some book signings and they've got an escape room and
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all kinds of stuff. It's definitely, if you go check
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it out, if you're in that area, Huntsville, Oneida area.
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I've got a hunt here that, you know, for the
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most part, kind of relatively unheard of. And it's a steamboat.
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It used to cruise the tributaries of Mississippi River and
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American South. It was docked in Chattanooga and operated as
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a floating hotel until it was bought by the Delta
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Queen Ski Boat Company. Mary Green is the name of
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the spirit that is said to linger on the ship.
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And she was the wife of Green Line founder, Gordon C. Green.
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She was a riverboat captain in her own right. And
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she died in 1949 while aboard the boat. Witnesses say
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she still hangs out near her former course. Well, I'd
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like to find out.
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Yeah, I'd like to do that. Now, I've done the,
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they have a riverboat there in Knoxville. I've gone on
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a dinner cruise on that years ago. But I've seen
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the one in Chattanooga. They've got one in Nashville, too,
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that you can see on the river there as you
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pass by. But I love those old riverboats. Have you
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ever gotten to do one of the tours?
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No, have you? like the Queen Mary or anything like that,
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any of those?
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I've visited the Queen Mary, but I didn't do the
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ghost hunter. I think they've only started that recently. It's
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docked in Long Beach. But yeah, that's it. I went
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on the, I think the Star of Knoxville is the
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one that they have there on the Tennessee River in Knoxville.
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People forget a lot of those towns in Tennessee are
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river towns, Chattanooga, Knoxville, Nashville. Knoxville probably wouldn't even be
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there if it wasn't for the river.
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I'm thinking of something right now that's probably not on
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either one of our lists. Hold on just a second.
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Your dog agrees.
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Yeah, you heard that.
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Hold on.
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Mike's moving the mobile.
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And I can see they'll be right back with us here.
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Got some other stuff coming up here. If you've got
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any listeners in Tennessee, east, middle, or west, please Let
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me know in the comments or get a hold of me,
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stevestoctor81 at gmail.com. I'd like to cover stuff in your
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area for more upcoming episodes of everything out there here
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on the Clyde Lewis Ground Zero Radio Network. Hope everybody's
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ready for a spooky season. Getting geared up here. My son, Holden,
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he'll be a month old tomorrow. It's hard to believe,
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but we've already got him some outfits for Halloween and stuff.
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Looking forward to it. He'd be too little to trick-or-treat
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this year, but next year and beyond should be a
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lot of fun. I'm looking forward to it, being a
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boy dad.
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Okay. Maybe that lawnmower out there won't pass.
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Yeah, I just barely hear it. It's all good. Just
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the ambiance there.
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I guess he's not thinking about that. He knows I'm recording,
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but he probably didn't think about picking up or anything.
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When I'm thinking about it, it's probably not on our list.
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I think you visited, my dad visited. I think you've
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both been down to the water. Is the Rutherford Mansion
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in Kingsport?
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Yeah, Rutherford Mansion there. I've been down behind it. It's
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private property. I think a doctor lives there. And I
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didn't want to go up in the yard and get
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in trouble. So if you go past it, there's a
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little picnic area on the French Broad River down there
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behind it. And I actually walked along the riverbank and
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got along the back of it and waded out about
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knee deep out there and later found out the water
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right there behind it. That's where they've seen the ghost
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of the girl that drowned herself that lived there at
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one time. So what can you tell us about Rotherwood Mansion?
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It's reported to have at least two ghosts haunting the place,
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you know, given its reputation. It was built in 1817
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by Frederick Ross, founder of the town Rossville, which later
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became Kingsport. He was father to a lady named Rowena.
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She supposedly fell in love with a man from a
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nearby town. After they got engaged, the man drowned after
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his boat capsized in the Holston River there. Her second
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husband also died of yellow fever. Her third husband and
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her had a daughter in the daughter ended up dying
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so um she committed you know she committed herself there
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um ended her life and she's believed to be the
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lady in white that haunts the mansion witnesses have seen
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her near the riverbanks and some say she is searching
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for her first lover who drowned long ago Also in
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the Kingsport area is a place that's gained a lot
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of popularity through the years. It's called Sensible Tunnel. There's
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different stories about the place.
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Yeah, I thought about that earlier when I knew you
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were going to be on. We talked about that last
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time you were on with us. But let's talk about
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that again. Tell us about Sensible Tunnel. You got some
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personal stories about there.
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Oh, my goodness. Now, my dad claims that when they
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were younger, him and his sisters and brothers, they went there.
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Their car wouldn't start, and like a bloody handprint just
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smacked right up on the side of the windshield or
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the side window of me. Finally, the car started, and
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they took off. Now, he took me and my sister
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when we were kids. He had a camper top in
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the back of his truck. I believe he got scared
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is why he did this, but he scared us so good.
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He crawled out of his window. That way, we didn't
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hear the truck door. He come around through there and
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he just started beating and banging on the side of
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the truck. We screamed. He laughed. He got in the
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truck and we left. But yeah, reports say that there
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was a woman that fell in love with a man. Now,
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I'm not for sure which one was Native American at
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this point. I believe maybe the man was. either way
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they fell in love it's forbidden they supposedly wasn't supposed
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to be together and one of them jumped and killed
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herself from the train trestle there near it and another
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story states that it was a home invasion and somebody
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was shot and killed there in the home invasion. Something
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about a baby's included in there. You can hear a
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baby crying. That may come from, I think the lady
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jumped to her death. perhaps with the baby and I
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also heard that a baby was harmed and killed during
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the home invasion so it could be.
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A combination they supposedly took it and left it in
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the tunnel there's several conflicting stories about that place some
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say that it's not haunted at all that the man
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who owned it whose property it was on he was
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the one that told made up all those stories and
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he haunted it but then supposedly then after he died
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he came back and haunted it so Who knows, but
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it's a spooky place. It's one of those where you
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pull up and drive up there and park your car
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and put baby powder or flour on the car and
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then when you leave, you have little handprints all over it.
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You can put your car neutral in some places like that.
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There's a place, I'm not sure if it's in Tennessee,
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you put your car neutral and put baby powder on
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the back of your car and you're I think there's
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like a little hill or railroad track, and the car
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will actually move up and over it, and you'll have
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little kid handprints on the.
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Back of the car. Yeah, I've heard about that. There's
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one really famous one in Texas where supposedly a train
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hit a school bus full of kids, and if you
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go and park your car on there or stop your
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car on the train track and put it neutral, it's
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pushed across the tracks uphill by invisible hands. And if
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you put powder or flour on there, it's the little hands.
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But apparently that's happened several places. It's just one of
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those urban legends that's got a bunch of different locations.
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But I think a lot of those, somewhere it really
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did happen. And kind of like the telephone game when
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we were kids, whoever was telling it kind of updated
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it to somewhere that they knew about. Because my mom
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and dad, my dad was from Middle Tennessee over in
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Pinterest County. My mom was from... up around the Cates
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Cove area, the Smokies, or Ramsey. And they heard some
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of the same stories growing up, just different locations, but,
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you know, a couple hundred miles apart and six years apart.
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So those tales have legs. The tales travel, I think.
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Yeah, I think there's a little bit of truth in
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all the lore and legends, you know. It stems from something.
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Apparently it was worth mentioning to give it enough legs
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to carry it out through the years, you know, become
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what they're known for. I think some truth lies in
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all of them. There's another tunnel that's said to be
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haunted near Sensible. I believe it's a tunnel. I'm still
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looking into that, but I want to know more on
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that one. It's not as popular as Sensible, but maybe
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it's a little more public accessible. Maybe you won't get
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shot at or anything funny.
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Yeah, I don't know the legalities that go into Cincinnati.
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Like I said, I've been there, but I was with
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some people from the area. So I don't know if
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they had permission, but I hope they did. I was
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riding in their car, but it is a creepy place nonetheless.
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Yeah, I've been there. And me and my friend, her
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boyfriend at the time, he didn't hear anything. But me
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and her, we heard, her name is Sarah, or is Sarah.
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We heard what we thought was There was water trickling.
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You could definitely hear that. There was a cadence to that.
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But then it changed. Like somebody was walking in it
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and it was getting closer. And then you could almost
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hear like a faint echo of somebody talking. And it
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kept getting closer and closer and we didn't see anybody.
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So we just backed out. We backed on right on
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out there. We couldn't see anything. But something definitely was
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audible and coming closer. And we're like, nope, time to go.
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We saw nothing hurt enough. Now the same thing could
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be said for the mansion there, Rutherford Mansion in Kingsport.
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Some say it's not haunted at all. The others swear
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that it's haunted, that they saw things there.
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Yeah, it's creepy. Nonetheless, especially being in that river back there,
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I didn't realize until later that that was the water
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where they see the spirit of the girl But it
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was interesting nonetheless. And another one I've got on my
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list here is Historic Rugby. Have you ever been to Rugby?
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No.
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It's not too far from the Scott County Jail there.
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I think it's kind of on the way. It's a
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Victorian-era village said to be home to several ghosts, including
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former owner Brian Stagg and a young woman named Isabel
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who haunts the Tabard Inn. Visitors have reported seeing apparitions,
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hearing footsteps, feeling cold spots. Now, from what I've heard,
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it's an unincorporated community there in Morgan and Scott counties.
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Founded in 1880 by English author Thomas Hughes, it was
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built as an experimental utopian colony. While it largely failed,
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there's a small community that still lingers there, and they've
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started to redoing it they've got a like a new
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subdivision over there but all the houses are built in
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victorian style so it's pretty cool but uh i've heard
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that every building over there is haunted to some degree
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now there was a place i used to like to
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stop and eat over there called the harrow road cafe
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i don't think it's there anymore i think uh heard
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that it burnt down but they're rebuilding it but um
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strange over there particularly the library and some of those
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houses so let's see Let me take a look here.
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There's an Episcopal Church there, the Thomas Hughes Library, Kingston Lyle,
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which is a Queen Anne-style cottage, Percy Cottage, a house
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named Roslyn, and these are all from the 1800s. The
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Walton Court, the Rugby Commissary, Adina Cottage, Wren's Nest, the Lindens,
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Newberry House, Honordonk House, Pioneer Cottage, Martin's Roost, Oak Lodge,
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Huffington House, and the Clubhouse, and Twin Oaks. All those
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are from the 1800s and all supposedly haunted. But it's
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interesting to go check that out. And if you can
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hear that noise in the background, that's Holden voicing his
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displeasure or something.
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He's just chiming in. He's a beautiful baby boy.
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Thank you. Yeah, anybody that would like to see him,
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come to my YouTube channel, Missing Persons and Mysteries, for
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one of my live streams. I have him on there.
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And also some of the other places where I go live,
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like First Floor Audio with Lee G. And then Monday
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nights with Cisco Murdoch, Journey Through the Gate Paranormal Portal Podcast.
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He's been on there with me a couple times. But
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he's already got international fans. He's quite the little gentleman. And.
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the brothers at the belief hole too. They, uh, they
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were kind enough to send a little gift. And, um,
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as you know, they said, congratulations. I thought that was
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nice of them.
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Yeah. Yeah. I've got to get them on this show.
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We keep missing connections and stuff. They want me back
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on their show, uh, the belief hole podcast on YouTube.
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It was an excellent show. That's of all the shows
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I've been on. I've been a guest on a lot
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of shows. That was probably my favorite appearance.
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I loved having you two. It was obvious.
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Yeah. And Nicole's a big fan of theirs. And she
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got to sit like in the virtual audience and watch
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the whole thing. She was the first backstage guest or
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whatever you want to call it on there. So that
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was a good time. That was before I moved to
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New Mexico here and got married. So we were still
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doing the long distance thing at that point. but it
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made for a wonderful episode. I got to tell a
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lot of stories and everybody really dug it. Let me
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take a look here and see. Apparently that's Belief Hole Podcast,
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all one word on YouTube. And video popular. Yeah, I'm
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still in the number one spot. Just a little over
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a year ago, 407,000 views. And the other two most
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popular videos episodes uh they talked about me on it
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um missing 411 the portal theory with uh fairies bigfoot
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national park mysteries and missing 411 the containment theory those
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both over 200 250 000 views so go check out
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the brothers um chris john and jeremy uh the bleephole
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podcast tell them steve stockton sent you.
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A couple of them's twins there one recently moved john
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moved um I'm not sure where he moved to, but
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he recently moved. He's getting situated to settle back down.
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They should have a show on. They come on Sundays, too.
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Every two weeks, I believe it is. Yeah.
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Let's see if they've got one scheduled.
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I think they're due to come on this Sunday.
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Yeah, I got something. I'm in their expansion. I subscribe
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to that, so.
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See.
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They just had one 11 days ago yesterday. They should
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be back on Sunday. Good stuff.
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Technically be tonight sometime.
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Last one, Dark Synagogue, Skinwalker Shack, Tootaloo Man, the other episodes,
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Monster Men of the Reservation, otherworldly odors uh psychic mansion
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secrets of the occult cold war uh true paranormal stories
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including harper's ferry walking bushes wide range yeah just every
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show they have is absolutely amazing i love those guys
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they have i gotta get them on here and they
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said they come on but we just we keep missing
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each other they're busy now.
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You started out watching them and I'd actually just watched
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a show or two of them. And when you had
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asked me if I'd watched them before, I was like, yeah,
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a little bit, not a whole lot. I don't know
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much about them yet. But I got into them. Absolutely
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love them. I'm not really big on podcasts and stuff,
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but yeah.
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They were aware of my channel. And I was watching
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an episode one time, and I think it was Chris.
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He was sitting at his desk and he had these
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books behind him. And I saw the spine of one
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of my books. And I went back and paused it
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and I said, yeah, that's, I think it's my National
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Park Mysteries and Disappearances Volume 1, The Great Smoky Mountains.
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I believe that was the one he had back there.
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And I took a screenshot of it and I messaged him,
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emailed him and said, hey, thanks for having my book here.
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I'd love to be on the show sometime. And that's,
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we just started talking like that. And it all came about.
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And they were like, is this the real Steve Stockton?
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I said, I can assure you it is. I'm tickled
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to see you there.
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Yeah, I've got some fans over there now. Later, we're
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recording this Friday night for air date Sunday. But later tonight,
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I'm doing live on Missing Person Mystery Channel. Creepy late
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night live, kind of kicking off a spooky season 2024 here.
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And I posted about it on their Facebook group and
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got some responses over there. But looking forward to it.
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And I think Lee's going to join me, maybe even
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on camera tonight if he's up and around and feels
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like it i thought i've got some some stories i'm
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going to read and just tell some stories and i
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thought if he could do a little spooky piano or
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synthesizer thing behind it live that might be cool i
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don't know if you want to do that but so
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don't be disappointed if you go back and watch it
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and that didn't happen but if it all if the
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stars align it'll go yeah.
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He may very well do it but you know.
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He and I got some other projects we're working on
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for one of my YouTube channels called Tales Untold. And
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it's going to be amazing. Get it ready. It'll be
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just soon, soon. That's all I got to say.
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Yeah, that was your channel Among the Missing. You've just
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rebranded the name there.
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Yeah, when I went back to Missing Person Mysteries and
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became owner of that channel, I decided instead of having
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two Missing Person channels, I just moved the Missing Person
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stuff over there. Rebranded Among the Missing, Tales Untold, and
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do immersive storytelling over there. I think I'm about 114K
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00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.500
subscribers over there. So come check us out. Got some
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00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.779
good stuff. Currently working my way through Dark Tales from
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Every State. Connecticut is the next one up.
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I've always heard that the Allendale Mansion, I'm sure you're
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familiar with that in Kingsport. I think it's technically Churchill.
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I've heard of it. I've never been there, but can
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you enlighten us? Can you tell us some more about it?
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Yeah. Well, it's in Kingsport, Tennessee. They've got like an
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estate looking house and then near it they've got like
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an older looking house and a barn they do ghost
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hunts or not ghost hunts but they do the um
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every year they do they uh like the they redo
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the barn to make it like a a haunted attraction
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and people come and pay and you know they go
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through there and get their get the daylight scared out
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of them um i'm trying to think of when it
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may have been built i'm not sure when it was
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built um But it's like in one of the little
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busiest areas there, going to Kingsport. It's 44, 44 Stone
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Drive in Kingsport. I do know that. A lot of
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people use it for weddings and other celebrations. A lot
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of weddings. You can go by there at any given
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time and see people just all decked out. flowers and
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arrangements everywhere um as far as the haunted history i
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don't know that much about it but i've always heard
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that it's reportedly haunted um i have some things written
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here about it if i could find it i just
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can't recall i'm sorry about that um have you heard
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anything about it i know that you're familiar with it.
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I just i've heard of it but i really don't
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know other than It's purported to be haunted. I don't
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know of any particular hauntings or any of the details,
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but most places like that, if people say that it's haunted,
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there's something that's gone down there.
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I would like to know some more personal accounts. I mean, yeah.
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The lore of the legend, you know. It's a beautiful
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little place, though.
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Definitely. Okay, let me see what else I've got on
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my list here. Next up, one that I'm very familiar with,
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the Bizu Theater in Knoxville. Historic theater said to be
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haunted by several ghosts, including a former stagehand and a
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young girl. Staff and visitors have reported seeing apparitions, hearing
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strange noises, and feeling cold spots. And I got some information,
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more information about it. It's at 803 South Gay Street
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in Knoxville, Tennessee. And they've got a wonderful website, knoxbijou.org.
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On the history tab, it gives you all information about it.
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In 1801 to 1856, it was one of the premier
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hotels in Knoxville. It began as the Lamar House and
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sitting on a parcel of land once granted to Revolutionary
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War General James White. And there's James White Fort there
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in Knoxville, too. It's believed to be the oldest commercially
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active property in Knoxville, probably in Tennessee. And then during
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the Civil War, 1857 era, ownership of the building again
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changed hands. This time with Colonel William H. Sneed, the
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owner of an adjacent property. He leased the building for
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profit and the hotel passed through a succession of tenants. Still,
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the Lamar House continued to serve as the center of
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the Knoxville social scene. And then it went to still
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more opulent remodeling. And that was years 1857 to 1908.
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And then 1908 to 1935, Vaudeville came to Knoxville. In 1908,
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the Auditorium Company purchased the property and began renovations to
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remodel and transform the ballroom into a theater named Jake
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Wells Bizu Theater. The first time that the Bizu name
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was attached to the original Millimar House building. The Lamar
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House would continue to operate as a hotel, store, and restaurant.
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It was financed by three of Knoxville's prominent citizens, C.B. Atkin, Mrs.
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Jeanette Cowan, and W.G. Brownlow, managing partners Jake Wells and
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Fitz Straub. A little Knoxville history there for anybody playing along.
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And then 1935 to 1969, Paramount Pictures Distribution Subsidy in
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1935 took a 30-year lease on the Viseu and operated
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as a movie house to show second runs and holdovers
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of films that had already been shown at the Tennessee Theater,
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which is basically just a catty corner across the street,
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and it's one of those Art Deco gyms. It's a
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real show place. The cinema, still on occasion, did turn
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to stage-over touring performers and orchestras, saw many notable performers.
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Then in 1965, when their 30-year lease was up, Paramount
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Pictures decided not to renew And it became an adult
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movie house, was changed to the Bijou Art Theater. And
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then in the early 70s, it was bequeathed to the
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United Methodist Church. They were going to tear it down.
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They were unhappy about owning a once ill-reputed place. They
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sold it to a Knoxville businessman. And then it was
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finally closed due to unpaid rent and amusement taxes. And
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then in 2005, the mayor at that time, Bill Haslam,
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Brought it back in 2006. The doors opened again. And
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it's remained so with the Healthy Board Management Company. But
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it is very, very, very haunted. There's a restaurant there
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called the Bistro Tabizu. I was in there at a
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function once when I was going to law school. And
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I couldn't get to the bathroom because there was another
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party of people there and I couldn't squeeze through. So
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I went out to go to the bathroom in the lobby.
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I knew there was a bathroom out there well the
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lights were off I couldn't find the bathroom so I
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thought well I know there's one up on the mezzanine
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so I don't know what possessed me but I went
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up the steps toward the mezzanine in the dark and
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on the staircase there I felt just a light touch
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caress my arm so I turned around and headed my
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ass back down the stairs in a hurry Went outside
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and around and peed behind a dumpster or something there.
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But another time I was in there at night and
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I heard, sounded like somebody, I was in the restaurant,
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the bistro. And at that time I'd went out to
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use the bathroom and the bathroom was just right there
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in the lobby. I don't know how I missed it
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the previous time. But this time I heard what sounded
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like somebody rehearsing for a play. It sounded like two performers,
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a man and a woman And they were trading lines
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back and forth. And I thought, well, I'm just going
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to peek in on this. I opened one of the
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doors into the theater. Black, totally black. All I could
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see was the exit sign in the back of the theater.
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As soon as I cracked the door open, the voices stopped.
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And Kathina, the hair stood up on my arms. I
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knew I'd interrupted something there. And also that's one of
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those places along with the Tennessee where there's somebody that
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sits up in the balcony when there's not supposed to
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be anybody up there. A lot of theaters have that
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type of ghost. Another time I'd gone in there, I
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was with some people, and I didn't experience anything that time,
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but the person I was with, they took their daughter
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into the ladies' room, and I heard them, I thought
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they were laughing, screaming, going on, came out, they were
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scared crazy. They were in a stall, and the next stall,
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which there was nobody in because they'd looked when they
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went in there, they heard it flush, and then the
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door shut, And then the water turned on on the sink.
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They opened their stall and looked out and the water's
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on at the sink and there's nobody in there. So
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they finished their business up, ran out screaming. Now that's
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the Bijou Theater in Knoxville, Tennessee.
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I found some of my notes here for the Allendale Mansion.
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It was constructed just in the early 1900s. It's an
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opulent mansion. It's supposedly haunted by a distraught bride who
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might stop looking for her lost love. It's got enormous
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halls said to evoke a sense of sorrow and haunting
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apparitions have been spotted by visitors. The attraction is enhanced
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by a heartbreaking tale of the love-born bride. That's in quotes,
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so I must have got that from somewhere. But yeah.
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It's just a tragic love story, and it was built
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in the early 1900s. Amazing. Now, the Vizu Theater, that's
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in one of your books, I believe, too.
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Yeah, it's pretty much that story that I just told.
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I talk about it in My Strange World, among my
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personal paranormal experiences.
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Now, Steve, I'm going to mention a hospital here, but
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that reminds me of when you recently mentioned a haunted hospital.
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used to be up near a place where you lived
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um they recently opened to the public for uh ghost
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hunting i forget the name of it um i think
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the town might have started with an r or near
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or no wait what is it um didn't do you
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remember no.
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Jog my memory i'm trying to think uh was it
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when i lived in the pacific northwest no i.
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Think it was like around knoxville or cades cove in
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that area um It's a haunted hospital. I was thinking
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the name started with an R.
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I am totally drawing a blank here, Cathedral.
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I'll look through my notes here, too, so if I
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can find that. One hospital, though, is relatively popular. It's
708
00:43:34.110 --> 00:43:37.820
been on several ghost shows, and they've got this wall
709
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:40.300
where they sign their name, you know, visitors sign their name.
710
00:43:41.179 --> 00:43:45.119
It's called the Old South Pittsburgh Hospital in South Pittsburgh, Tennessee.
711
00:43:45.659 --> 00:43:49.309
Yeah, now that's Like if you're going south toward Atlanta,
712
00:43:49.329 --> 00:43:51.530
which I know is that direction down in there. There's
713
00:43:51.550 --> 00:43:53.050
some other spooky stuff down there.
714
00:43:53.730 --> 00:43:56.170
It's supposed to be full of former patients, you know,
715
00:43:56.190 --> 00:44:04.559
the spectral remains, apparitions, footsteps, voices just hanging in the air,
716
00:44:04.619 --> 00:44:05.480
you know. Yeah.
717
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:08.820
Now, I've got some stuff on the screen here that
718
00:44:08.860 --> 00:44:10.619
the audience can't see. Can you see the screen?
719
00:44:11.300 --> 00:44:11.760
Yeah. Yep.
720
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:14.340
Okay. See my message there at the bottom?
721
00:44:15.789 --> 00:44:28.510
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But there's a Union Station Hotel in Nashville.
722
00:44:32.630 --> 00:44:35.849
It blends elegance with persistent sense of sorrow as well.
723
00:44:35.889 --> 00:44:39.190
It's rumored that the opulent hallways in this hotel were
724
00:44:39.230 --> 00:44:41.250
haunted by the spirit of a young woman who tragically died.
725
00:44:42.409 --> 00:44:45.389
The quiet hours of the night, guests describe hearing eerie
726
00:44:45.429 --> 00:44:53.780
footsteps and seeing flickering lights. Originally a busy train station,
727
00:44:55.019 --> 00:44:57.849
it's now a paranormal hotspot where guests are encouraged to
728
00:44:57.909 --> 00:45:01.869
spend time with the ensign ghosts from another period. They
729
00:45:01.909 --> 00:45:05.449
invite anybody who's drawn to its interior as well as
730
00:45:05.469 --> 00:45:09.030
the mysterious shadows that dance there. Even while the sounds
731
00:45:09.070 --> 00:45:12.989
of somber stories linger, you know, just book it, come
732
00:45:13.010 --> 00:45:22.000
on by. There's a plantation house too in Rosemont. Gallatin, Tennessee.
733
00:45:22.900 --> 00:45:28.340
It's a plantation house. Antebellum charm. It has a sinister mystery.
734
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:32.519
It's rumored that the original owner's daughter, Mary Adeline Henderson,
735
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:36.679
haunts the grounds. Visitors have seen her apparition, dressed in white,
736
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:43.389
which heightens the mansion's charm. There's stories of unfulfilled love
737
00:45:43.429 --> 00:45:47.510
there as well. A life snatched away. It's a monument
738
00:45:47.570 --> 00:45:50.610
to the feelings of people who've endured endured there through
739
00:45:50.630 --> 00:45:56.969
the years um mary adeline's ethereal presence creates lasting impressions
740
00:45:57.190 --> 00:46:00.449
invites visitors to feel the lingering sadness of the past
741
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:08.199
now um just touch on another prison another popular place
742
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:13.719
is the brushy mountain state penitentiary in tennessee now it's
743
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.630
it's got all kinds of stories attached to that one
744
00:46:18.170 --> 00:46:21.739
um The atmosphere is just spooky. You know, it's a prison.
745
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.860
You might catch sight of condemned individuals who've met their
746
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:34.130
untimely ends there. Beyond its closure is dilapidated prison cells.
747
00:46:35.469 --> 00:46:37.650
I know that the cafeteria is rumored to be very
748
00:46:37.690 --> 00:46:44.150
haunted in it. There's accounts of chairs being violently slid
749
00:46:44.170 --> 00:46:50.380
across the room. There's been black figures spotted there. shadow figures.
750
00:46:53.179 --> 00:46:55.940
It'd be pretty frightening to see such things in the
751
00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:00.659
dark with just a little flashlight or maybe even through
752
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:10.530
a thermal imager. Infamous criminals, Martin Luther King Jr. 's killer,
753
00:47:10.550 --> 00:47:13.710
James Earl Ray, was there.
754
00:47:13.730 --> 00:47:21.309
Yeah, Michael Lachiana, who's... been on this show he has
755
00:47:21.349 --> 00:47:25.010
some amazing amazing uh evp electronic voice but on our
756
00:47:25.030 --> 00:47:29.670
recordings yeah.
757
00:47:29.329 --> 00:47:31.710
I definitely love to go there it's got a sword
758
00:47:31.789 --> 00:47:35.500
past yeah yeah.
759
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:36.260
I don't know that i would want to spend the
760
00:47:36.300 --> 00:47:37.840
night in there though no.
761
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.679
No no not not trying to sleep or anything but
762
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:44.260
i would like to be there at night and have
763
00:47:44.300 --> 00:47:48.139
a quick getaway exit planned out yeah at all times
764
00:47:50.739 --> 00:47:52.860
now if you just look up that place it's set
765
00:47:52.980 --> 00:47:56.119
in between there's like virtually no way to escape that
766
00:47:56.139 --> 00:48:00.219
without being seen it's surrounded by very steep mountains behind
767
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:04.550
it on either side of it and all you can
768
00:48:04.610 --> 00:48:07.789
see is the front and then behind it it's just
769
00:48:07.909 --> 00:48:11.610
covered in trees and stuff it's like a sheer mountain
770
00:48:13.030 --> 00:48:16.710
just inset it right there for you but there's other
771
00:48:16.820 --> 00:48:18.820
famous people I just can't remember who.
772
00:48:20.849 --> 00:48:24.969
That was a big one James Earl Ray and Tattoo
773
00:48:25.090 --> 00:48:30.820
Eddie was there too he was the Rocky Top Murders
774
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.539
in Gatlinburg back in the 80s he was the perpetrator
775
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.739
of that and Rocky Top Inn where they've had the
776
00:48:37.780 --> 00:48:41.619
hauntings and stuff it's gone now there's a quality inn
777
00:48:41.659 --> 00:48:44.300
or something in there but where that was they used
778
00:48:44.340 --> 00:48:47.489
to see just the legs of a lady running around
779
00:48:47.570 --> 00:48:49.130
the water fountain there in the back they had a
780
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.780
water feature out in the back parking lot. But it
781
00:48:52.820 --> 00:48:57.059
was tied to those murders. That was a scary, scary thing. Also,
782
00:48:57.099 --> 00:49:02.059
that was on River Road in Gatlinburg. They've changed the name.
783
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.639
I think it's just Historic Nature Trail Road or something now.
784
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.519
But there was a Holiday Inn up there where there
785
00:49:07.539 --> 00:49:10.940
were some murders too, the Holodome. And that was haunted.
786
00:49:11.420 --> 00:49:16.449
And there was like a kitchen thing down behind it
787
00:49:17.510 --> 00:49:20.500
like that they used to entertain like kids and things
788
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.500
that was haunted to the guy that uh worked there
789
00:49:23.579 --> 00:49:25.619
he was a chef or something he died and they'd
790
00:49:25.659 --> 00:49:28.260
still see him in there after there's a lot of
791
00:49:28.300 --> 00:49:33.230
haunted stuff in gallenburg and severe bull and pigeon forage
792
00:49:33.269 --> 00:49:34.650
that whole area up there.
793
00:49:37.150 --> 00:49:40.869
Now um We've all heard of crybaby bridges.
794
00:49:42.309 --> 00:49:45.489
Yeah, those are everywhere. Every little community, every wide spot
795
00:49:45.530 --> 00:49:48.679
in the road, especially down south has got a crybaby
796
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:52.760
bridge or a lady in white that walks the bridge.
797
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:56.780
And there's some other crybaby stories. My granddad on my
798
00:49:56.820 --> 00:49:59.590
mom's side, he used to tell of a crybaby house
799
00:50:00.210 --> 00:50:03.489
where a lady went crazy and buried her baby in
800
00:50:03.530 --> 00:50:05.690
the basement. And they said on a stormy night, you
801
00:50:05.710 --> 00:50:08.179
could hear it crying in the basement. And he and
802
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:12.690
some other guys actually heard that. I don't know. Scary stuff.
803
00:50:14.570 --> 00:50:19.050
There's one that's at the, just across the Tennessee state
804
00:50:19.090 --> 00:50:23.269
line in Columbus, Kentucky. It's, you know, it's right there.
805
00:50:23.869 --> 00:50:25.969
And up near mountain city, there's one up there too,
806
00:50:26.030 --> 00:50:29.380
out in Johnson County. I can't remember where it's at,
807
00:50:29.420 --> 00:50:31.599
but a lady it's, I don't think it's a crybaby bridge,
808
00:50:31.619 --> 00:50:34.559
but a lady in white bridge. And then there's another
809
00:50:34.619 --> 00:50:39.000
one up there where supposedly a man, Somebody's entombed in
810
00:50:39.019 --> 00:50:41.039
the cement where they were building the bridge. That was
811
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:43.300
the rumor that I heard. So you get to get
812
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.940
into these little communities. There's all kinds of rumors and
813
00:50:47.219 --> 00:50:50.329
stories and legends and things. I love that. I mean,
814
00:50:50.349 --> 00:50:53.150
just little wide spots in the road, but they've got
815
00:50:53.449 --> 00:50:55.849
stories to tell. And a lot of times it's unheard
816
00:50:55.909 --> 00:51:00.070
of outside that little community. And I've talked about that
817
00:51:00.110 --> 00:51:04.320
when I do travel. You want to go to the
818
00:51:04.420 --> 00:51:07.590
old folks' homes. And talk to those people. They know
819
00:51:07.769 --> 00:51:09.869
all the stories and legends. And you want to go
820
00:51:09.929 --> 00:51:12.250
wherever the young people hang out at the skateboard parks
821
00:51:12.329 --> 00:51:14.389
and things like that and say, hey, you know, if
822
00:51:14.929 --> 00:51:17.510
you're going to go parking, where's a good haunted spot?
823
00:51:18.179 --> 00:51:22.760
Yep. Definitely. They're daredevils. They dare you to go stay
824
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:26.739
in there. You know, kids will be kids.
825
00:51:31.980 --> 00:51:34.119
I've got another one here called the Lotz House, and
826
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:38.500
that's spelled L-O-T-Z, but it rhymes with boats. Built in
827
00:51:38.500 --> 00:51:42.280
1858 in the central Tennessee, middle Tennessee town of Franklin,
828
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.519
which Tennessee used to be the state of Franklin. I
829
00:51:45.539 --> 00:51:47.340
think Tennessee and part of North Carolina.
830
00:51:48.110 --> 00:51:50.210
I believe that's one of the oldest towns.
831
00:51:50.889 --> 00:51:55.090
Yeah. And this Civil War era house was the site
832
00:51:55.110 --> 00:51:57.690
of a bloody battle, and it's said to be haunted
833
00:51:57.710 --> 00:52:01.510
by the soldiers who died there. Ministers have reported seeing apparitions.
834
00:52:02.050 --> 00:52:04.980
hearing footsteps and feeling cold spots. And that's one thing
835
00:52:05.019 --> 00:52:08.739
about Tennessee. There's all these, there's big battles, you know,
836
00:52:08.860 --> 00:52:10.880
we'll get to some of those in a minute, but
837
00:52:10.900 --> 00:52:14.599
there was little skirmishes and stuff. And in places even
838
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:18.699
like Fort Sanders there in Knoxville, the Battle of Fort Sanders,
839
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:20.199
there was a lot of bloodshed there. There was a
840
00:52:20.260 --> 00:52:24.280
ditch that they had dug and supposedly they shot so
841
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:27.619
many people and they fell in the ditch that the
842
00:52:27.699 --> 00:52:30.360
next wave could like walk over the corpses to get
843
00:52:30.420 --> 00:52:33.309
up the hill. So no wonder there's hauntings in a
844
00:52:33.329 --> 00:52:34.090
place like that.
845
00:52:36.190 --> 00:52:41.099
There's a little bit of everything in Tennessee. There's cryptid stories,
846
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:43.900
UFO stories, ghost stories.
847
00:52:47.699 --> 00:52:52.639
There's one I believe is either from Middle or West
848
00:52:52.659 --> 00:52:54.329
Tennessee that I remember seeing when I was a kid.
849
00:52:54.349 --> 00:52:59.460
A picture of a kangaroo in a farmer's cornfield. And
850
00:52:59.500 --> 00:53:02.639
you and I both know that kangaroos aren't indigenous to Tennessee.
851
00:53:02.659 --> 00:53:06.400
So in the 1950s, where did kangaroo come from? You know,
852
00:53:06.420 --> 00:53:10.300
there's always that story about a circus train or a
853
00:53:10.340 --> 00:53:14.159
private zoo where they escaped, but who knows? But there
854
00:53:14.179 --> 00:53:16.659
was a picture of it just happily bounding to a cornfield.
855
00:53:20.739 --> 00:53:26.880
There's a story of a, well, A ghost doctor around
856
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:31.219
where the Rutherford Mansion was. It's on Netherland Inn Road.
857
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:39.159
A highway ghost. Bristol Highway. There is a haunted... It's
858
00:53:39.219 --> 00:53:42.179
said to be haunted by a long dog. A family
859
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.659
pet that's brutally killed by the notorious outlaw John Murrow.
860
00:53:48.550 --> 00:53:52.190
Yeah, no, that's something I've heard stories of is ghosts
861
00:53:52.269 --> 00:53:55.489
of pets and things. I've got a story in... these
862
00:53:55.510 --> 00:53:58.340
strange things in the woods where there was a dog
863
00:53:58.389 --> 00:54:02.619
that these people would see after it passed away. And
864
00:54:02.659 --> 00:54:04.960
it basically appeared to everybody except the guy that it
865
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:09.070
belonged to. But his brother saw it, his children saw it,
866
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:11.420
his parents saw it, but he never saw it. But
867
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:13.440
they'd always see it like just going around the corner
868
00:54:13.460 --> 00:54:15.099
of the house or at the edge of the woods
869
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:20.070
or something like that. But I think animals can come back.
870
00:54:20.110 --> 00:54:21.809
Now I've told the story about the guy back in
871
00:54:21.829 --> 00:54:24.650
the 80s. I spent the night at his house. and
872
00:54:24.869 --> 00:54:28.949
slept in a spare room. Sometime during the night, I
873
00:54:28.969 --> 00:54:31.590
felt a cat come jump up in the bed, curled
874
00:54:31.650 --> 00:54:34.789
up down at my feet, purring. Next morning, I get
875
00:54:34.849 --> 00:54:37.699
up and he's cooking breakfast. I said, if you're looking
876
00:54:37.739 --> 00:54:40.539
for your cat, it spent the night with me last night.
877
00:54:40.579 --> 00:54:43.619
He looked at me strange and he said, Steve, he said,
878
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:47.599
that cat's been dead for years. But I felt it.
879
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:49.820
He said he had felt it too and heard it
880
00:54:49.980 --> 00:54:52.889
and never had seen it. But I mean, it was
881
00:54:52.989 --> 00:54:55.670
clear that it jumped up on the bed and curled
882
00:54:55.750 --> 00:54:57.849
up purring at my feet. I just assumed it was
883
00:54:57.869 --> 00:54:58.230
a cat.
884
00:54:58.949 --> 00:55:01.889
Yeah, you can feel the depression and even some heat
885
00:55:02.070 --> 00:55:05.289
or vibration of the purr. I've heard such things. It's
886
00:55:05.369 --> 00:55:08.110
very strange. It can be comforting, but it can also
887
00:55:08.409 --> 00:55:09.010
be upsetting.
888
00:55:09.050 --> 00:55:11.489
Yeah, if I'd known that the cat wasn't.
889
00:55:11.139 --> 00:55:14.139
There anymore, that.
890
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:15.400
Would have scared the life out of me.
891
00:55:17.980 --> 00:55:20.000
According to legend.
892
00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:20.559
True story.
893
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.480
A long dog that was brutally killed in that outlaw.
894
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.960
The legend was probably not. I don't know if it's
895
00:55:30.980 --> 00:55:31.900
your microphone.
896
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:33.300
Can you hear me?
897
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:34.880
Yeah, that's better.
898
00:55:35.619 --> 00:55:41.920
Okay. As the story goes, in 1922, on a foggy night,
899
00:55:42.460 --> 00:55:47.679
five men were joyriding in a Model T down Rogerville
900
00:55:47.739 --> 00:55:50.539
Pike near Rutherford Bridge when a dog ran out in
901
00:55:50.579 --> 00:55:53.099
front of them. The driver swerved and missed the animal.
902
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:58.300
And they crashed into the bridge. I mean, there was
903
00:55:58.320 --> 00:55:58.780
no animal.
904
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:00.559
No animal.
905
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:03.820
But he saw it to the point where he's swerving
906
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:04.780
to miss it and crashes.
907
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:07.579
There was no animal anywhere.
908
00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:12.940
I don't know why a ghost dog would cause anybody
909
00:56:12.980 --> 00:56:15.969
to want to run out in front of somebody. Yeah. But,
910
00:56:16.030 --> 00:56:18.130
you know, if it's like the sound tape theory, it
911
00:56:18.190 --> 00:56:21.130
could just be reliving its last moments or something.
912
00:56:21.150 --> 00:56:23.880
Could have been anything. Or sometimes I think it's from
913
00:56:24.219 --> 00:56:29.409
another dimension or something like that, a different timeline or something.
914
00:56:30.809 --> 00:56:32.869
I don't think every ghost is a spirit or even
915
00:56:32.889 --> 00:56:33.989
a ghost, if you know what I mean.
916
00:56:35.010 --> 00:56:39.110
Well, two of those boys that, when people arrived, two
917
00:56:39.150 --> 00:56:41.110
of the guys, there was five of them, two of
918
00:56:41.150 --> 00:56:43.469
them were already deceased.
919
00:56:46.929 --> 00:56:49.539
And outside of Oak Ridge there, where I used to live,
920
00:56:50.139 --> 00:56:53.460
there was a place where... The guy on a motorcycle
921
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:55.800
had ran through a barbed wire fence and cut his
922
00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:59.059
head off back after the war. And they claimed that
923
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:02.619
you could back up in this dirt road and put
924
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:06.099
your backup lights or something on. And you could see
925
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:08.679
the guy's head in the bushes. And I went with
926
00:57:08.739 --> 00:57:11.539
a bunch of people. They were teenagers. This is my
927
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:14.849
best friend and his older sisters who was teenagers and
928
00:57:14.869 --> 00:57:19.570
their boyfriends. And we were probably, we might have been 10,
929
00:57:19.570 --> 00:57:22.659
but we went along with them. And they backed up
930
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.739
in there. Sure enough, there was something back in there
931
00:57:24.780 --> 00:57:29.349
that looked like a head. There was screams and yelling
932
00:57:29.389 --> 00:57:32.409
and crying, and we got out of there. But that's
933
00:57:33.210 --> 00:57:36.250
Post Mountain Hill Lake there in Oak Ridge going toward
934
00:57:36.650 --> 00:57:39.429
Clinton on what they call the River Road past Bull
935
00:57:39.449 --> 00:57:40.250
Run Steam Plant.
936
00:57:46.150 --> 00:57:50.409
There's a ghost of a man. It's... scene on foggy
937
00:57:50.449 --> 00:57:52.110
nights too another linen.
938
00:57:51.849 --> 00:57:57.230
Road he wears his trench coat a door hat a
939
00:57:57.369 --> 00:58:01.349
lot scarred he steps out into the middle of the
940
00:58:01.369 --> 00:58:05.079
road waving his arms people.
941
00:58:04.659 --> 00:58:08.139
Swerved and yeah i heard something like that also in
942
00:58:08.219 --> 00:58:11.420
the solway community there in east tennessee guy was uh
943
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:15.719
coming around a curvy country road there at night came
944
00:58:15.940 --> 00:58:19.159
around this blind curve and what looked like somebody standing
945
00:58:19.179 --> 00:58:22.650
in the road. And then he drove through it, whatever
946
00:58:22.670 --> 00:58:25.670
it was. It was like a spirit or something. Cause
947
00:58:25.690 --> 00:58:28.690
he thought I hit somebody, but just went right through
948
00:58:28.710 --> 00:58:31.469
it and, uh, had no idea what that was, but yeah,
949
00:58:31.510 --> 00:58:34.349
he drove through what appeared to be somebody in the
950
00:58:34.389 --> 00:58:37.489
road with that. It didn't hit anything. It was a specter,
951
00:58:37.659 --> 00:58:40.119
a shade or spirit or whatever you want to call it.
952
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:46.440
That was close to, um, beaver creek there where there's
953
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:49.579
they've heard phantom horses down in that area there there
954
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:51.920
were some guys that had robbed the depot there in
955
00:58:51.940 --> 00:58:55.639
solway in the strongbox back in the railroad days and
956
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:57.789
they they took off up that way and hid out
957
00:58:58.650 --> 00:59:01.849
uh there's a cave up there and their initials into
958
00:59:01.929 --> 00:59:05.030
the dates still scratched in the wall there and they
959
00:59:05.050 --> 00:59:07.110
caught up with them and killed them but they say
960
00:59:07.170 --> 00:59:09.289
at night you can hear those hoofbeats and hear horses
961
00:59:09.750 --> 00:59:13.150
run through there my dad had heard them before i
962
00:59:13.190 --> 00:59:15.389
never was in there at night and then right across
963
00:59:15.989 --> 00:59:18.340
from where that was there's a church cemetery that's haunted
964
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:21.900
i've talked about my um now that's not the beaver
965
00:59:21.980 --> 00:59:24.960
ridge cemetery this is a different one but uh it's
966
00:59:24.980 --> 00:59:27.800
my old method of cemetery but talk about that in
967
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:29.019
the my storage world.
968
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:40.079
But somebody had saw this man standing, you know, it's
969
00:59:40.139 --> 00:59:45.619
foggy and he steps out waving his arms. Somebody actually says,
970
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:49.389
you know, swore that they hit this person. You know,
971
00:59:49.409 --> 00:59:55.050
it's an apparition. It was wet, wet pavement. The car
972
00:59:55.090 --> 00:59:57.130
struck the man and terrified, he pulls off the road,
973
00:59:57.190 --> 00:59:59.110
walks back to the spot where the man had been standing.
974
00:59:59.630 --> 01:00:00.429
There was nobody there.
975
01:00:00.449 --> 01:00:04.090
It was like the one story I've got where they,
976
01:00:04.659 --> 01:00:07.880
something was crawling across the road and they thought it
977
01:00:07.900 --> 01:00:09.840
looked like a man in a wetsuit. They hit it
978
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:12.679
and there was blood on the car. They went back
979
01:00:12.739 --> 01:00:17.539
and looked, but they couldn't find anything. Now that's, that's creepy.
980
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:20.500
And then Cisco's got a story from about the same
981
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:23.340
area where her and her mom were driving through and
982
01:00:23.380 --> 01:00:26.820
they saw something on the side of the road. And
983
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:29.139
she's got another story where she saw a baby foot,
984
01:00:29.179 --> 01:00:31.199
like a baby Bigfoot sitting on the side of the road,
985
01:00:31.260 --> 01:00:34.690
looking sad. So there's, There's all kinds of stuff out
986
01:00:34.789 --> 01:00:38.530
on the sides of those country roads. As Cisco likes
987
01:00:38.570 --> 01:00:40.599
to say, there's all kinds of shit out there.
988
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:43.780
Oh yeah. Yeah. Definitely.
989
01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:46.840
You got to hear her say it though. Just imagine
990
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:47.940
her saying that in her voice.
991
01:00:47.980 --> 01:00:50.079
That's just, that's a quote.
992
01:00:50.099 --> 01:00:51.559
I'd like to have that on a t-shirt.
993
01:00:53.820 --> 01:00:55.519
She talks about all kinds of stuff herself.
994
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:56.980
I mean, she talks to.
995
01:00:56.909 --> 01:00:58.469
The ghosts too. Yeah.
996
01:00:58.510 --> 01:01:00.590
She's been doing some stuff for spooky season. A lot
997
01:01:00.630 --> 01:01:03.909
of old time radio, creepy stuff. Uh, Vincent Price and
998
01:01:03.929 --> 01:01:07.409
CBS Mr. Theater. But check out her YouTube channel, listeners.
999
01:01:07.489 --> 01:01:11.269
It's Journey Through the Gate Paranormal Portal Podcast with Cisco
1000
01:01:11.289 --> 01:01:18.369
Burdock on YouTube. I think she's on Rumble too. Yeah. Well, Kathina,
1001
01:01:18.389 --> 01:01:21.150
we've reached the halfway point. Going to take a little
1002
01:01:21.190 --> 01:01:25.349
break here. We'll be back in about five minutes. And
1003
01:01:25.530 --> 01:01:28.710
I'm going to do a commercial message here. And then
1004
01:01:28.750 --> 01:01:33.800
either coming up, you'll hear shutters from Lee G. from
1005
01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:37.159
First War Audio, or you may hear Kathita's own song
1006
01:01:37.179 --> 01:01:41.400
that Lee wrote for her, Kathita Cat Gray, a.k.a. Love Online,
1007
01:01:41.820 --> 01:01:43.960
if he gives me permission to play it. Either way,
1008
01:01:43.980 --> 01:01:46.909
you'll hear a commercial, and then you'll hear a song
1009
01:01:46.949 --> 01:01:50.030
from Lee G, First War Audio. We'll be back right
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after this.
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And that's Lee G from First Floor Audio with Shudders
1027
01:07:26.550 --> 01:07:29.480
here on Everything Out There. I'm Steve Stockton. We're back
1028
01:07:29.500 --> 01:07:35.599
for the second hour. Guest tonight, East Tennessean, and may
1029
01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:40.099
be related, Cathita Cat Gray, the Rogers lawyer. I don't
1030
01:07:40.139 --> 01:07:43.989
think she'll mind me talking about where she's from. Waiting
1031
01:07:44.010 --> 01:07:47.010
for her to come back here. Now, we were talking
1032
01:07:47.030 --> 01:07:50.130
about the Vizu Theater there in Knoxville, and I briefly
1033
01:07:50.170 --> 01:07:55.690
mentioned Right across the street from that is the Tennessee Theater.
1034
01:07:55.710 --> 01:07:58.829
It's kind of catty corner across the street. That's another
1035
01:07:58.869 --> 01:08:01.050
one of those Art Deco gyms, and it's haunted too.
1036
01:08:01.829 --> 01:08:07.010
And that's where Hank Williams' final performance was. He had
1037
01:08:07.269 --> 01:08:12.000
performed there, and then they took him to the Andrew
1038
01:08:12.039 --> 01:08:18.460
Jackson Hotel, Andrew Johnson Hotel, and brought him down out there,
1039
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.279
and he was so drunk he couldn't, walk and they
1040
01:08:21.300 --> 01:08:23.079
wheeled him out on a luggage cart and i think
1041
01:08:23.460 --> 01:08:25.619
a doctor or something gave him some kind of uh
1042
01:08:26.460 --> 01:08:29.619
medication or some probably morphine i think he had a
1043
01:08:29.659 --> 01:08:33.460
morphine hank senior had a morphine addiction and uh by
1044
01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:35.859
the time they got to chattanooga i think it's chattanooga
1045
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:39.220
he was already deceased or maybe somewhere maybe it's kentucky
1046
01:08:39.300 --> 01:08:43.550
or virginia anywhere anyway wherever he was going to um
1047
01:08:43.939 --> 01:08:47.029
he was deceased and there have been people that claim
1048
01:08:47.069 --> 01:08:49.710
that they've seen him in the tennessee theater And then
1049
01:08:49.729 --> 01:08:52.500
I also spoke to one fellow who swears that he
1050
01:08:52.539 --> 01:08:55.390
saw him walking down the sidewalk in front of the
1051
01:08:55.409 --> 01:08:59.130
theater headed toward the hotel and just kind of faded
1052
01:08:59.229 --> 01:09:03.029
out of sight. Creepy story there about Hank Sr. And
1053
01:09:03.340 --> 01:09:09.720
his ghost gets around Ryman Auditorium in Nashville, former home
1054
01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:13.319
of the Grand Ole Opry. May still be. I don't know.
1055
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:16.180
Used to be anyway, and then they moved it around
1056
01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:20.710
maybe back there, but they've seen him there backstage. And, um,
1057
01:09:21.390 --> 01:09:23.130
there was some country artists. I can't think of who
1058
01:09:23.149 --> 01:09:27.010
it was that was playing one night, uh, practicing before
1059
01:09:27.029 --> 01:09:31.439
the show. And, um, so I, I think Hank would
1060
01:09:31.489 --> 01:09:34.079
like that. And so at that time, all the lights
1061
01:09:34.140 --> 01:09:36.340
went out and then they came back up. So that
1062
01:09:36.380 --> 01:09:39.899
was Hank, uh, either voicing his pleasure or displeasure. I
1063
01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:42.659
think the, the artist, uh, said that he thought that
1064
01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:45.239
it meant Hank liked it, but, uh, he's just one
1065
01:09:45.260 --> 01:09:50.289
of those tragic figures in country music that, uh, Still
1066
01:09:50.369 --> 01:09:53.289
out there and around and about. There'll never be another
1067
01:09:53.329 --> 01:09:58.430
like Hank Sr. What do you think, Kathina? You ever
1068
01:09:58.489 --> 01:10:00.069
heard of any hauntings of Hank?
1069
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:09.760
Okay.
1070
01:10:09.779 --> 01:10:11.699
We're still waiting on Kathina to come back.
1071
01:10:12.899 --> 01:10:13.500
I am back.
1072
01:10:13.539 --> 01:10:15.739
There she is. Now she's back. I was talking about
1073
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:17.060
the ghost of Hank Williams Sr.
1074
01:10:26.750 --> 01:10:29.220
Can you repeat that? I want to hear a little
1075
01:10:29.229 --> 01:10:29.640
about that.
1076
01:10:32.539 --> 01:10:35.579
No, I was talking about the ghost of Hank Williams Sr.
1077
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:38.260
and how he'd been seen at the Ryman Auditorium and
1078
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:40.920
in and around the Tennessee Theater there on Gay Street
1079
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:45.560
in Knoxville, which is kind of catty-cornered from the Bisbee
1080
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:47.850
Theater that I was talking about there earlier.
1081
01:10:48.489 --> 01:10:49.029
Okay. Okay.
1082
01:10:50.489 --> 01:10:52.930
So what else you got out there on your list, Kathina?
1083
01:10:53.350 --> 01:11:00.590
Oh, there's haunted colleges, too. Like the college my daughter
1084
01:11:00.609 --> 01:11:05.930
goes to is haunted, but I'll talk about there's Kingsport.
1085
01:11:06.670 --> 01:11:10.890
It's 20 miles from Kingsport, like, you know, around the line.
1086
01:11:10.930 --> 01:11:17.750
There's Bristol, Virginia. There's Bristol, Tennessee. The Virginia Intermont College.
1087
01:11:18.350 --> 01:11:21.090
Yeah, I hadn't heard about that one. Now, another one
1088
01:11:21.149 --> 01:11:25.329
in that area, in the Tri-Cities area, ETSU, that campus
1089
01:11:25.390 --> 01:11:27.710
is haunted. I've been up there, didn't see anything, but
1090
01:11:28.289 --> 01:11:34.279
I heard plenty of stories. So what do you got
1091
01:11:34.300 --> 01:11:36.039
there about the one that your daughter goes to?
1092
01:11:37.060 --> 01:11:42.000
She's wondered if it's haunted. She had one room. She
1093
01:11:42.140 --> 01:11:45.779
switched rooms a few times, dorms. But she had one,
1094
01:11:45.970 --> 01:11:49.479
no matter what was going on. Yeah. They hot in there,
1095
01:11:49.609 --> 01:11:55.060
always hot. And she knew that something just wasn't right.
1096
01:11:55.100 --> 01:11:58.539
You know, she kept feeling like a little bit of
1097
01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:03.840
oppression or sadness and she wasn't, there's nothing affecting her.
1098
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:06.539
You know, I thought, well, maybe it's just stress or the, well,
1099
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:09.119
you know, you know, I was kind of worried about her.
1100
01:12:09.140 --> 01:12:11.979
Like what's going on, you know, lo and behold, she
1101
01:12:12.020 --> 01:12:18.229
switches dorms, complete change, turnaround. It beats me. but just
1102
01:12:18.350 --> 01:12:20.890
very odd. I said, do you think maybe it's kind of,
1103
01:12:20.890 --> 01:12:24.729
you know, I mean, I don't want to sound like, oh, mom,
1104
01:12:24.750 --> 01:12:26.689
you're crazy. You know, have you think, oh, mom, you're crazy.
1105
01:12:26.729 --> 01:12:28.109
Cause I thought, you know, you talk about that stuff
1106
01:12:28.170 --> 01:12:30.109
all the time. I said, do you think it might
1107
01:12:30.149 --> 01:12:33.229
be haunted? She says, I'm, I'm seriously wondering. I mean,
1108
01:12:33.250 --> 01:12:35.210
that's how to the point it got, you know, she,
1109
01:12:35.649 --> 01:12:38.369
she was concerned, but okay. Something else is going on here.
1110
01:12:38.390 --> 01:12:41.529
It kind of spooked her a little bit. Yeah. She's
1111
01:12:41.590 --> 01:12:45.289
in a different dorm now and nothing like that's occurred.
1112
01:12:45.489 --> 01:12:46.750
She feels a lot better.
1113
01:12:48.109 --> 01:12:50.630
Yeah, there's some places there at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville,
1114
01:12:50.890 --> 01:12:54.270
my alma mater, that were haunted. Some of the dorms
1115
01:12:54.329 --> 01:12:56.670
and some of the, I think the bathroom in the
1116
01:12:56.710 --> 01:12:58.569
basement of the student center. There was a guy that
1117
01:12:59.289 --> 01:13:01.560
passed away down there from alcohol poisoning back in the 80s.
1118
01:13:01.550 --> 01:13:03.689
And I think they've heard and seen stuff down there.
1119
01:13:04.649 --> 01:13:08.750
And then all kinds of areas. And around again, that's
1120
01:13:08.909 --> 01:13:12.909
Fort Sanders is in that area. And a lot of spooky,
1121
01:13:12.939 --> 01:13:13.800
spooky stuff there.
1122
01:13:20.430 --> 01:13:25.779
This one chick at the Virginia Intermont College. Now, you know,
1123
01:13:26.260 --> 01:13:29.420
rumor has it that she had an affair with a
1124
01:13:29.460 --> 01:13:33.939
professor and she hung herself, you know, she was distraught.
1125
01:13:34.420 --> 01:13:39.779
And when she did so, she knocked a lamp over
1126
01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:45.409
and started a fire. The building's been fully restored, but
1127
01:13:45.729 --> 01:13:49.329
there's times in the room that she, in that end
1128
01:13:49.350 --> 01:13:54.640
that she, you know, she appears and the room looks
1129
01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:58.260
like it's in a charred state. It's like it's burned.
1130
01:14:00.659 --> 01:14:05.159
So it's like the room's remembering what happened or something.
1131
01:14:05.180 --> 01:14:06.680
It's kind of strange.
1132
01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:12.189
Yeah, I've heard of stuff like that before where something
1133
01:14:12.210 --> 01:14:14.689
that happened in the past will kind of bleed into
1134
01:14:14.729 --> 01:14:17.529
the future sometimes. Not all the time, but just some
1135
01:14:17.550 --> 01:14:19.850
of the times I guess Maybe, as they say, when
1136
01:14:20.050 --> 01:14:20.909
the veil is thin.
1137
01:14:20.930 --> 01:14:22.329
Mm-hmm.
1138
01:14:23.289 --> 01:14:26.100
Yeah, that's coming up. We're in spooky season here. It's
1139
01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:29.319
October 4th, the night that we're recording this. It'll play
1140
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:35.119
on the 6th. But it's begun for 2024. You got
1141
01:14:35.140 --> 01:14:39.390
any plans for this month and around Halloween or anything
1142
01:14:39.670 --> 01:14:40.609
like that?
1143
01:14:41.210 --> 01:14:46.489
Well, actually, I have been thinking of something. A mutual
1144
01:14:46.810 --> 01:14:51.699
friend of ours... mentioned some things to me here recently.
1145
01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:56.989
I think I've got something in mind to do. Ted,
1146
01:14:57.050 --> 01:15:01.010
Ted Branson. And, you know, one was encouragement from another
1147
01:15:01.029 --> 01:15:01.729
mutual friend.
1148
01:15:01.750 --> 01:15:03.930
Shout out to Ted. All the way in Scotland, him
1149
01:15:03.949 --> 01:15:06.710
and his dog Connor. He's a big fan of all
1150
01:15:06.729 --> 01:15:08.390
my shows and yours too.
1151
01:15:10.470 --> 01:15:14.909
Well, he kind of mentioned, you know, doing something with
1152
01:15:14.989 --> 01:15:18.720
old stories and old movies. And I have something in mind.
1153
01:15:19.100 --> 01:15:21.720
I'm not, you know, I'm actually, I actually may be
1154
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:23.020
in character, let's say.
1155
01:15:24.449 --> 01:15:26.489
Now, is that going to be on your Ghost Lore
1156
01:15:26.510 --> 01:15:27.229
YouTube channel?
1157
01:15:27.930 --> 01:15:31.609
Yeah, rather than that, or I'll make a similar channel,
1158
01:15:32.229 --> 01:15:35.489
like Ghost Lore Nor or something, you know, Ghost Lore.
1159
01:15:35.569 --> 01:15:39.069
Ghost Lore and more. There you go. Ghost Lore Plus,
1160
01:15:39.109 --> 01:15:41.270
Ghost Lore After Dark. There's all kinds of ways you
1161
01:15:41.289 --> 01:15:43.529
can go with it. But tell us a little bit
1162
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.539
about Ghost Lore. And I'll put a link to that
1163
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:48.569
in the show description. But tell us what you're doing
1164
01:15:48.590 --> 01:15:50.109
over there on your Ghost Lord channel.
1165
01:15:50.829 --> 01:15:53.010
Well, I don't have much content on there. I'm not
1166
01:15:53.069 --> 01:15:56.609
in a big rush, you know. I've got little projects
1167
01:15:56.649 --> 01:15:59.329
here and there I've been working on. But I do
1168
01:15:59.409 --> 01:16:02.350
have some stuff to unload on the channel. I'm just,
1169
01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:03.489
there's one thing.
1170
01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:09.060
Now, I think before you, when you were here before,
1171
01:16:09.079 --> 01:16:12.140
it was before you had the one about the ghost thing.
1172
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:15.859
that came to court. Could you give us a brief
1173
01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:18.079
repeat of that for our listeners?
1174
01:16:19.300 --> 01:16:27.890
Elva Zona Heaster married Emerus Edward Trout Stribling Shoe. They
1175
01:16:27.930 --> 01:16:31.989
were married less than three months. He was a fine
1176
01:16:32.029 --> 01:16:38.239
employee at a blacksmith shop. The blacksmith owner's name was
1177
01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:45.689
James Crookshank and He was a likable man. The name Trout,
1178
01:16:45.770 --> 01:16:49.090
I'm not sure where he derived that nickname, but through
1179
01:16:49.109 --> 01:16:53.470
my research, I think maybe he got it from a
1180
01:16:54.670 --> 01:16:59.659
nearby place called Trout. There's Trout Falls, Trout Spring, I believe,
1181
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:03.960
an area named Trout. He had relatives here and there,
1182
01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:07.199
and through traveling and stuff, I think he probably visited
1183
01:17:07.220 --> 01:17:11.789
that place a lot and probably got that nickname there. But, um, Yeah,
1184
01:17:11.829 --> 01:17:15.590
Ghost Lord. The first short I've made for the channel
1185
01:17:15.609 --> 01:17:19.720
is about the ghost of Greenbrier. Well, Elva Zona Huster
1186
01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:23.079
married Emerson Edward Trout Strickland Shue. They were married less
1187
01:17:23.100 --> 01:17:29.000
than three months, and she was dead. And she was buried.
1188
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:35.220
About a month or so later, Elva's mother, Mary Jane Huster,
1189
01:17:36.539 --> 01:17:39.539
has reports that her daughter came to her on four
1190
01:17:40.100 --> 01:17:45.739
nights and little by little, told her and showed her
1191
01:17:46.140 --> 01:17:48.979
what her husband had done to her because there was
1192
01:17:49.050 --> 01:17:54.010
no meat made for supper. And she was mostly silent,
1193
01:17:54.050 --> 01:17:56.729
but she would turn her head completely around. You know,
1194
01:17:56.909 --> 01:18:01.970
this is the report. And, you know, she had a
1195
01:18:01.989 --> 01:18:06.390
broken neck. And eventually the husband was charged for murder.
1196
01:18:07.289 --> 01:18:10.069
And he was sentenced to jail. And he died in
1197
01:18:10.090 --> 01:18:16.810
jail a few years later. but it's the first case
1198
01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:24.520
that was taken to court where an actual sentencing occurred
1199
01:18:24.579 --> 01:18:29.189
from reports of a ghost. The mother was telling the story,
1200
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:33.189
of course, but her story was that of the supposed
1201
01:18:33.229 --> 01:18:37.590
ghost of her daughter. So a ghostly account in the
1202
01:18:37.630 --> 01:18:41.319
court of law leads to a sentencing, and a man
1203
01:18:41.319 --> 01:18:43.869
sentenced to jail, and he he dies four years later
1204
01:18:45.180 --> 01:18:51.979
it's in it's from greenbrier county um like i said
1205
01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:54.859
he was a blacksmith she i think was just a
1206
01:18:54.899 --> 01:19:00.600
housewife she had a prior relationship with um a man
1207
01:19:00.659 --> 01:19:04.890
his last name was woldridge um they had a baby
1208
01:19:05.770 --> 01:19:07.729
but he couldn't support a wife and child. You know,
1209
01:19:07.890 --> 01:19:10.149
it was reported he didn't have much money or a job.
1210
01:19:11.229 --> 01:19:16.100
And to this day, nobody knows that I have found out. Um,
1211
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:19.420
nobody knows what's happened to the baby. There's no accounts
1212
01:19:19.460 --> 01:19:22.600
of the baby in, in, in history books. I don't
1213
01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:27.449
know if the baby, you know, died, um, like from
1214
01:19:27.529 --> 01:19:32.029
seeds or anything. I don't know if, um, The child
1215
01:19:32.109 --> 01:19:35.090
lived a few years and then a tragic accident occurred.
1216
01:19:35.729 --> 01:19:40.029
I'm not sure. But I used to think that the
1217
01:19:40.090 --> 01:19:42.750
story is from like England or somewhere. And I found
1218
01:19:42.829 --> 01:19:45.069
out it's pretty much like a couple hours from here
1219
01:19:45.109 --> 01:19:48.529
is where it happened from where I'm at. And I
1220
01:19:48.550 --> 01:19:50.670
just kept thinking about the story and I kept hearing
1221
01:19:50.689 --> 01:19:54.760
about the story. Little YouTube videos would come on. I
1222
01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:56.920
finally started researching it and it just happens to be
1223
01:19:56.939 --> 01:20:02.189
the first story I decided to do for YouTube. I'm
1224
01:20:02.250 --> 01:20:04.560
still working on the follow up video the hold up
1225
01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:09.920
is when I started doing the story I had a
1226
01:20:09.939 --> 01:20:12.859
death in the family which was my father he died
1227
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:17.340
Christmas Eve and so that put things on hold and
1228
01:20:17.380 --> 01:20:19.550
then I got back into it and then I had
1229
01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:21.590
to do all kinds of fact checking and there was
1230
01:20:21.630 --> 01:20:27.229
a lot of things that I felt were not correct
1231
01:20:27.310 --> 01:20:31.710
or in error so I actually went to some archives
1232
01:20:32.670 --> 01:20:35.810
and they contacted me and they let me know that, yes,
1233
01:20:35.899 --> 01:20:37.850
I could do this and that with the information and
1234
01:20:39.279 --> 01:20:45.939
actually supported me. And so I almost had to do
1235
01:20:46.720 --> 01:20:52.380
three quarters of the whole story over. It's just a
1236
01:20:52.439 --> 01:20:55.039
simple little thing. You can email archives, you know, and
1237
01:20:55.500 --> 01:20:57.560
be notified and say, yes, you can do it. Just
1238
01:20:57.600 --> 01:20:59.859
that little bit of permission will save you a lot
1239
01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:08.500
of hot water later down the road anyway. Like I
1240
01:21:08.500 --> 01:21:13.989
was talking about these haunted colleges, I saw some stories
1241
01:21:14.050 --> 01:21:18.270
about the college my daughter went to. These guys were
1242
01:21:18.770 --> 01:21:22.149
in their dorm, laying in bed, and they had like
1243
01:21:22.729 --> 01:21:24.470
some kind of little action figure hanging up.
1244
01:21:24.430 --> 01:21:24.899
On the wall.
1245
01:21:26.189 --> 01:21:31.500
They kept it there. And it got moved and they
1246
01:21:31.539 --> 01:21:34.539
could not find it anywhere. They kept looking for it.
1247
01:21:34.899 --> 01:21:38.340
They looked, looked, looked, looked everywhere. They emptied their pockets, man.
1248
01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:39.680
I don't have it. I don't have it. You know,
1249
01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:43.279
they were pretty upset about it, but later they look
1250
01:21:43.350 --> 01:21:45.149
up and there it is. It's sitting right back where
1251
01:21:45.170 --> 01:21:46.529
it's supposed to be. Yeah.
1252
01:21:46.590 --> 01:21:47.210
How about that?
1253
01:21:47.869 --> 01:21:51.170
Is this missing all of a sudden? And now I've
1254
01:21:51.229 --> 01:21:53.550
had that, that happened to me. I don't know.
1255
01:21:53.930 --> 01:21:56.789
I've lost stuff here in our house and I know
1256
01:21:56.850 --> 01:21:59.939
it's here in the house and suddenly go back into
1257
01:21:59.960 --> 01:22:01.960
a room, and there it is, right in plain sight.
1258
01:22:02.619 --> 01:22:05.229
Yeah, where you find things in the strangest locations.
1259
01:22:05.369 --> 01:22:07.829
Yeah, and I'm like, I know I didn't put that there.
1260
01:22:07.850 --> 01:22:08.869
I didn't leave it there.
1261
01:22:09.869 --> 01:22:12.390
I mean, like, for me, I found my car keys
1262
01:22:12.489 --> 01:22:16.029
once in the bottom of a trash can. That's how
1263
01:22:16.069 --> 01:22:17.640
far I went through the house. That tells you I
1264
01:22:17.680 --> 01:22:20.359
went through everything. I found them in the bottom of
1265
01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:24.060
a trash can, up underneath the plastic bag, mind you, too. Now,
1266
01:22:24.420 --> 01:22:27.539
that had to be a prank nobody ever admitted to,
1267
01:22:27.779 --> 01:22:30.239
but Oh, my goodness, yeah. I spent two hours looking
1268
01:22:30.260 --> 01:22:32.479
for car keys. The only thing I can figure is
1269
01:22:32.500 --> 01:22:33.979
they got knocked off the counter, but I don't know
1270
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:36.539
how they got up under the plastic garbage bag.
1271
01:22:37.119 --> 01:22:38.399
Or have you ever done the one, like, where you're
1272
01:22:38.420 --> 01:22:40.720
looking for your glasses, and then you realize they're on
1273
01:22:40.739 --> 01:22:41.460
top of your head?
1274
01:22:41.779 --> 01:22:44.199
Yes, I've done that with my keys, my cell phone, yep.
1275
01:22:45.100 --> 01:22:47.579
Yeah, one time I was looking everywhere for my car keys,
1276
01:22:47.699 --> 01:22:48.600
and they were in my hand.
1277
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:49.279
Oh, yeah.
1278
01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:51.720
And I've done that with a wallet and a cell phone.
1279
01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:55.260
Another time, when I was in high school, I was
1280
01:22:55.560 --> 01:22:58.140
driving a pickup truck. I was on the way to school,
1281
01:22:58.829 --> 01:23:02.449
And I had my, I carried my keys like on
1282
01:23:02.489 --> 01:23:07.949
a C-clip on my belt buckle and, or on my
1283
01:23:08.029 --> 01:23:10.449
belt loop. And I reached for them and I'm like,
1284
01:23:10.970 --> 01:23:13.140
I've left my keys at home. I've got to turn
1285
01:23:13.149 --> 01:23:15.159
around and go back. And then it occurred to me, well, dummy.
1286
01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:16.539
How'd you get there?
1287
01:23:16.579 --> 01:23:18.319
How'd I get in the truck and get it started?
1288
01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:22.020
They're hanging out of the ignition. So there you go.
1289
01:23:22.060 --> 01:23:24.439
The brain is an amazing thing sometimes, or maybe not
1290
01:23:24.460 --> 01:23:25.340
so amazing.
1291
01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:31.619
Like, um, This Mandela effect, are we really misremembering things
1292
01:23:31.659 --> 01:23:32.760
that much?
1293
01:23:33.060 --> 01:23:36.699
I've got my doubts. The one that I've thought of
1294
01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:40.270
that I've never heard anybody mention is Crossman BB guns.
1295
01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:43.069
I had a Crossman BB gun. I had Daisy and
1296
01:23:43.090 --> 01:23:44.869
some of the others, but I had a Crossman BB gun.
1297
01:23:45.430 --> 01:23:49.390
Back when I was a kid, it was spelled C-R-O-S-S-M-A-N.
1298
01:23:49.869 --> 01:23:54.079
Now it's C-R-O-S-M-A-N-1-S. I don't remember it having one S.
1299
01:23:54.189 --> 01:23:57.689
I believe it had two. Well, when I looked on
1300
01:23:57.699 --> 01:24:00.270
the website, it's been that way forever. So who knows?
1301
01:24:04.069 --> 01:24:08.550
There's another one that is fairly new to me. What
1302
01:24:08.590 --> 01:24:09.810
color is Mickey Mouse's shoes?
1303
01:24:11.989 --> 01:24:13.010
I believe they were yellow.
1304
01:24:14.710 --> 01:24:18.489
Well, ding, ding, ding. Okay. What about the 18, the
1305
01:24:19.189 --> 01:24:21.369
old show with 18? What color was the van?
1306
01:24:22.050 --> 01:24:23.729
I think it was black with a red stripe.
1307
01:24:24.489 --> 01:24:30.729
There you go. Like an orange, orange-ish red, zig-zaggy. Yeah. Well, no, no, no.
1308
01:24:31.270 --> 01:24:35.060
They say that the top of it was gray. The
1309
01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:35.880
bottom was black.
1310
01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:40.279
I don't remember. Not in my timeline. I used to
1311
01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:42.720
have like a little Hot Wheels or a Johnny Lightning
1312
01:24:42.779 --> 01:24:44.979
or something of the 18 van. It was black with
1313
01:24:45.020 --> 01:24:46.960
a red lightning bolt thing on it.
1314
01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:50.939
I had one of the extra large, chunky, kind of
1315
01:24:51.010 --> 01:24:53.729
almost like maybe a doll, but it's just an action figure,
1316
01:24:53.750 --> 01:24:58.060
the rubber material. of Mr. T. Oh, I wish I
1317
01:24:58.100 --> 01:24:58.489
still had it.
1318
01:24:58.500 --> 01:25:00.520
I pity the fool that don't play with my action figure.
1319
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:04.439
He had the chains and everything on. I don't know
1320
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:07.000
where I got that or why. I think it was
1321
01:25:07.039 --> 01:25:09.180
a gift for somebody else. They said, oh, you can
1322
01:25:09.199 --> 01:25:11.939
have it. They're not going to get it. You can
1323
01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:15.989
have it or something. I used to crack up my
1324
01:25:16.029 --> 01:25:17.470
sister with that when I was a kid saying, I
1325
01:25:17.529 --> 01:25:20.989
pity the fool. That may bring a pretty penny these days.
1326
01:25:24.460 --> 01:25:26.380
Yeah, some of those action figures. I wish I had
1327
01:25:26.439 --> 01:25:29.680
some of my G.I. Joes from the 60s and my
1328
01:25:29.739 --> 01:25:34.029
Captain Action figure and had a bunch of stuff like that.
1329
01:25:34.090 --> 01:25:37.949
Johnny West. There's a lot of action figures back then.
1330
01:25:38.489 --> 01:25:43.399
Little do we know what we behold until many moons later.
1331
01:25:43.409 --> 01:25:45.680
Yeah.
1332
01:25:45.699 --> 01:25:48.840
Well, I mean, we enjoy things when we have them.
1333
01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:53.890
Yeah, enjoyed playing with it and thought about maybe buying
1334
01:25:53.949 --> 01:25:56.090
vintage stuff like that and putting it up for holding,
1335
01:25:56.130 --> 01:25:58.789
but he might not even like it. He might want
1336
01:25:58.829 --> 01:26:01.970
whatever is popular currently, so who knows? I don't even
1337
01:26:01.989 --> 01:26:03.890
know if kids still play with action figures.
1338
01:26:04.989 --> 01:26:07.659
Some of the strangest things are collectibles, too. You know,
1339
01:26:07.699 --> 01:26:09.979
like Beanie Babies, or Pest Dispensers, even.
1340
01:26:10.220 --> 01:26:13.079
Yeah, I had a big collection of Pest Dispensers at
1341
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:15.520
one time back in the 90s. I had over 100
1342
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:18.800
of them, and I auctioned them off on eBay just
1343
01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:21.659
as one lot, and I got a pretty penny out
1344
01:26:21.699 --> 01:26:23.100
of them, because I had some rare ones, because I
1345
01:26:23.779 --> 01:26:32.609
I'd had them since childhood. But another Mandela effect, the
1346
01:26:32.649 --> 01:26:36.449
Fruit of the Loom underwear. Do you remember it having
1347
01:26:36.470 --> 01:26:37.350
a cornucopia?
1348
01:26:37.550 --> 01:26:38.550
Yes, it sure did.
1349
01:26:38.869 --> 01:26:40.909
I sure do, but now it doesn't, and they say
1350
01:26:40.949 --> 01:26:41.489
it never did.
1351
01:26:43.210 --> 01:26:48.149
Somebody's lying somewhere, or I'm on a different planet or realm, district,
1352
01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:49.420
something's going on.
1353
01:26:49.819 --> 01:26:52.960
I remember the cornucopia. Now they say it doesn't exist.
1354
01:26:54.409 --> 01:26:54.619
Never did.
1355
01:26:54.630 --> 01:26:57.090
I distinctly remember it because my mamaw used to have
1356
01:26:57.109 --> 01:27:01.989
a notepad. She got for like around Thanksgiving once or something.
1357
01:27:02.750 --> 01:27:05.909
And I remember seeing the cornucopia with the, they had
1358
01:27:05.930 --> 01:27:08.770
pumpkins and had some fruits or something spilling out of it.
1359
01:27:10.100 --> 01:27:12.239
I remember thinking when I was a kid, huh, that's
1360
01:27:12.260 --> 01:27:14.079
the same thing as the tags on those clothes and
1361
01:27:14.100 --> 01:27:16.220
things over there. It's the same thing. I didn't know
1362
01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:20.180
it's not a cornucopia, but I do remember recognizing it
1363
01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:21.239
on clothing.
1364
01:27:21.710 --> 01:27:23.770
Yeah my mom had one that she used as a
1365
01:27:23.810 --> 01:27:27.189
centerpiece for Thanksgiving it was a wicker cornucopia and it
1366
01:27:27.229 --> 01:27:30.369
had the little pumpkins and leaves and stuff plastic you
1367
01:27:30.390 --> 01:27:33.979
know spilling out of it and I said I said
1368
01:27:34.020 --> 01:27:35.180
that to her I was just a little kid and
1369
01:27:35.220 --> 01:27:38.399
I said the table looks like the tag in my
1370
01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:40.960
underwear and my dad thought it was funny my mom
1371
01:27:40.979 --> 01:27:43.619
didn't appreciate it too much but you know I wouldn't
1372
01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:46.020
have said that if it was just fruit laying there
1373
01:27:46.060 --> 01:27:49.810
it was I distinctly remember cornucopia yep.
1374
01:27:51.689 --> 01:27:56.289
I mean, just ordinary things. I mean, we remember it, though.
1375
01:27:56.430 --> 01:27:58.829
I mean, I know that the mind can change. Like,
1376
01:27:59.010 --> 01:28:01.710
if I'm wearing a red shirt now, in two or
1377
01:28:01.729 --> 01:28:05.720
three years, my mind will literally swear it has a
1378
01:28:05.850 --> 01:28:09.479
memory of me wearing a purple shirt. I mean, it's
1379
01:28:09.500 --> 01:28:10.680
just the way the mind works.
1380
01:28:10.939 --> 01:28:15.119
And Mandela himself, I remember when he died the first time.
1381
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:19.239
I was working at a restaurant in West Knoxville, and
1382
01:28:19.260 --> 01:28:21.420
I remember a guy and I at work talked about it.
1383
01:28:22.770 --> 01:28:25.590
And then it never happened until he only died much,
1384
01:28:25.649 --> 01:28:28.140
much later. That was back in the 80s or something?
1385
01:28:28.819 --> 01:28:32.340
No, I'd never heard that. But the thing that I
1386
01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:35.270
thought maybe people were confusing it with, there was some
1387
01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:38.649
movie out in the 90s, like some action movie. And
1388
01:28:38.670 --> 01:28:42.560
it was like... don't know, it's political conspiracy, all this
1389
01:28:42.619 --> 01:28:49.239
and that going on. And Mandela, there's somebody portraying Mandela,
1390
01:28:49.260 --> 01:28:51.600
I believe, on the movie. And he was killed on
1391
01:28:51.619 --> 01:28:52.039
the movie.
1392
01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:52.840
Yeah.
1393
01:28:52.859 --> 01:28:55.079
I thought maybe that's where people were getting it from.
1394
01:28:55.319 --> 01:28:57.159
No, I remember we talked about it because it was
1395
01:28:57.220 --> 01:29:00.310
on the news and the, Former presidents and stuff like
1396
01:29:00.350 --> 01:29:03.689
that were paying their respects. And no, it wasn't a movie.
1397
01:29:04.210 --> 01:29:06.050
Yeah, I've heard more about it.
1398
01:29:06.170 --> 01:29:08.649
One movie, though, is the James Bond movie with the
1399
01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:12.039
Jaws character, Richard Keel, the guy with the metal teeth,
1400
01:29:13.359 --> 01:29:15.300
where he goes in, he has a moment there with
1401
01:29:15.340 --> 01:29:18.079
the girl with the braces. Well, now she doesn't have braces.
1402
01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:20.600
That whole scene makes absolutely no sense now that she
1403
01:29:20.619 --> 01:29:21.399
doesn't have braces.
1404
01:29:21.659 --> 01:29:24.510
That was the point. That was their little connection. They
1405
01:29:24.550 --> 01:29:25.510
both had the braces.
1406
01:29:25.710 --> 01:29:26.949
Right. Yeah.
1407
01:29:27.699 --> 01:29:31.619
Yeah, I've been seeing that one lately. Yeah, she never
1408
01:29:31.680 --> 01:29:34.180
had braces. Well, then what's the point of her smiling
1409
01:29:34.220 --> 01:29:37.260
real big to show off her teeth then? Yeah. I mean,
1410
01:29:37.279 --> 01:29:40.510
that would be like an insult unless she had the
1411
01:29:40.550 --> 01:29:44.810
metal braces and they'd be like, ah, okay. They got
1412
01:29:44.829 --> 01:29:47.789
that little connection. They both have metal all over their teeth.
1413
01:29:48.250 --> 01:29:48.829
They don't feel so.
1414
01:29:50.189 --> 01:29:52.270
They had a moment there. And then later on, they
1415
01:29:52.289 --> 01:29:55.840
made a commercial like American Express commercial with him in it,
1416
01:29:55.909 --> 01:29:57.989
and it had a girl, maybe not the same girl,
1417
01:29:58.029 --> 01:30:01.109
but a girl with braces that worked at the bank. Again,
1418
01:30:01.149 --> 01:30:05.640
the same thing, but supposedly never happened. Another one is
1419
01:30:05.659 --> 01:30:08.420
the Bible verse about the lion laying down with the lamb.
1420
01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:12.020
It doesn't say that. Now it says the wolf laying
1421
01:30:12.060 --> 01:30:14.859
down with the lamb. It never said that. There used
1422
01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:18.109
to be a Christian coffee house or bookstore that I'd
1423
01:30:18.130 --> 01:30:20.890
go to called The Lion and the Lamb, and I'm
1424
01:30:20.930 --> 01:30:23.850
sure it's still named that, but where'd they get that?
1425
01:30:23.869 --> 01:30:25.010
The wolf. No.
1426
01:30:25.369 --> 01:30:27.970
I've never heard the lion or the wolf and the lamb.
1427
01:30:29.489 --> 01:30:32.560
Hmm. Or there's all kinds of them.
1428
01:30:32.609 --> 01:30:35.439
There's all kinds of them. I don't know if some
1429
01:30:35.460 --> 01:30:38.880
people say the world actually did end in 2012 according
1430
01:30:38.899 --> 01:30:40.920
to the Mayan calendar and we split off on a
1431
01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:43.920
different timeline. It didn't end for everybody. And that's why
1432
01:30:43.979 --> 01:30:47.359
things are different. But there's things I remember that but
1433
01:30:47.390 --> 01:30:50.210
there's ones that I know that other people say are
1434
01:30:50.229 --> 01:30:51.729
different like Jif peanut butter.
1435
01:30:52.529 --> 01:30:52.630
Yes.
1436
01:30:52.649 --> 01:30:55.430
Other people say it's Jiffy. In my timeline, it was
1437
01:30:55.470 --> 01:30:58.810
never Jiffy. Now, there was a restaurant, a little burger
1438
01:30:58.850 --> 01:31:02.119
joint called Jiffy Burgers that were similar to Crystal Hamburgers
1439
01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:04.100
that you have there in Tennessee and in the South.
1440
01:31:04.779 --> 01:31:08.300
But the peanut butter was Jiff, J-I-F. And a choosy
1441
01:31:08.340 --> 01:31:12.260
mother's choose Jiff. I remember that. Same with Oscar Mayer. Oh,
1442
01:31:12.800 --> 01:31:14.800
my baloney has a first name. It's O-S-C-A-R.
1443
01:31:14.880 --> 01:31:18.720
Yeah, that one confuses me. It's pronounced Mayer, but it's
1444
01:31:18.739 --> 01:31:25.270
spelled like Mayer. Yeah. That one confused me. I caught
1445
01:31:25.289 --> 01:31:27.970
that one here recently. I'm like, wait a second. How's
1446
01:31:28.010 --> 01:31:29.229
that Oscar Mayer song go?
1447
01:31:30.250 --> 01:31:33.210
Yeah. My baloney has the first name. It's O-S-C-A-R. My
1448
01:31:33.229 --> 01:31:35.329
baloney has the last name. It's M-A-Y-E-R.
1449
01:31:35.350 --> 01:31:39.689
Now some can be proven like mirror, mirror, you know,
1450
01:31:40.069 --> 01:31:40.630
the snow white.
1451
01:31:41.529 --> 01:31:43.710
Yeah. Mirror, mirror on the wall. Who's the fairest of
1452
01:31:43.729 --> 01:31:46.510
them all? Now it's like magic mirror on the wall
1453
01:31:46.550 --> 01:31:49.409
or some crap like that. It never said that. I'm sorry.
1454
01:31:50.510 --> 01:31:56.439
A German book or something. Somebody states that they it
1455
01:31:56.479 --> 01:31:59.899
says that in and they have to book or something
1456
01:32:00.850 --> 01:32:03.210
I'm like okay you can explain one or two you
1457
01:32:03.729 --> 01:32:06.649
know there's Bernstein or Bernstein bears which is it you
1458
01:32:06.670 --> 01:32:12.170
know it's spelled E-R-I-E and everybody's like no no no
1459
01:32:12.210 --> 01:32:18.210
no there's somebody supposedly has an old cell phone and
1460
01:32:18.489 --> 01:32:20.960
when they look through it they see things the way
1461
01:32:21.020 --> 01:32:25.109
things used to be like the monopoly man Or Mr. Peanut.
1462
01:32:25.630 --> 01:32:30.390
You know, the monocle? Yeah. Or a cane and glass.
1463
01:32:30.409 --> 01:32:34.630
According to this, despite popular belief, the Monopoly man never
1464
01:32:34.710 --> 01:32:40.319
wore a monocle, but yet people remember him as one. Ah, yeah.
1465
01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:47.100
The Berenstain Bears. Berenstain, Berenstain. I remember Berenstain. But some
1466
01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:52.189
people say it's Berenstain. And then Shazam, the movie Shazam
1467
01:32:52.229 --> 01:32:56.409
with Sinbad as a genie. but apparently no such movie exists,
1468
01:32:56.470 --> 01:33:00.430
but people remember it. The Star Wars one, Luke, I'm
1469
01:33:00.449 --> 01:33:03.800
your father. No, he actually says, no, I'm your father.
1470
01:33:04.100 --> 01:33:08.560
But I remember Luke, I'm your father. Hello Clarice from
1471
01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:09.560
Sounds of the Lambs.
1472
01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:15.359
Oh no, they can't mess that up. What's the ruling.
1473
01:33:14.670 --> 01:33:17.270
On that one? He didn't say it.
1474
01:33:18.350 --> 01:33:18.630
What?
1475
01:33:20.029 --> 01:33:22.689
I can hear it in my head. Hello Clarice. Or
1476
01:33:22.710 --> 01:33:25.069
he says, good morning, Clarice, or something to that effect.
1477
01:33:25.689 --> 01:33:25.939
Yeah.
1478
01:33:26.579 --> 01:33:28.180
When she walks in, he's right there.
1479
01:33:28.260 --> 01:33:32.420
Hello, Clarice is a Mandela effect example. I mean, many
1480
01:33:32.539 --> 01:33:36.560
people remember Hamble Lecter saying this line to Clarice Sterling
1481
01:33:36.619 --> 01:33:39.449
in The Silence of the Lambs, a 1991 movie, when
1482
01:33:39.489 --> 01:33:43.430
he actually just says, good morning. No, he says, hello, Clarice.
1483
01:33:44.069 --> 01:33:44.970
He says her name.
1484
01:33:45.250 --> 01:33:47.850
My daughter remembers that, too. She wrote it inside one
1485
01:33:47.890 --> 01:33:50.899
of the kitchen cabinets on a Sharpie one time. You
1486
01:33:50.939 --> 01:33:53.010
open it up, it said, hello, Clarice. I thought, ah,
1487
01:33:53.029 --> 01:33:53.529
that's funny.
1488
01:33:56.390 --> 01:34:04.109
It's mind-boggling. Baffling, even. That word's popping up everywhere for me, baffling.
1489
01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:14.300
There's some about Sunkist and some for like, I can't
1490
01:34:14.319 --> 01:34:17.760
remember what shoe company. It's Reebok or Nike. I can't
1491
01:34:17.779 --> 01:34:22.069
remember which one. it's a or fanta it's the spelling
1492
01:34:22.170 --> 01:34:26.090
on it was it f-a-a-n-t-a or f-a and i'm like
1493
01:34:27.029 --> 01:34:31.350
it's always f-a it's always been f-a so i think
1494
01:34:31.390 --> 01:34:33.560
some of them may be made up i'm not sure.
1495
01:34:35.220 --> 01:34:38.699
And then uh the ford logo it does people remember
1496
01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:40.859
it having a curly q on the f but then
1497
01:34:40.899 --> 01:34:45.850
it's always been a straight line um cpo's leg in
1498
01:34:45.890 --> 01:34:49.109
star wars uh It's always been gold, but they remember
1499
01:34:49.130 --> 01:34:53.010
it being a silver line. And the Forrest Gump line,
1500
01:34:53.029 --> 01:34:55.869
that one's just a little off. Instead of life is
1501
01:34:55.930 --> 01:34:59.180
like a box of chocolates, where his mother said, life
1502
01:34:59.340 --> 01:35:04.520
was like a box of chocolates. And then the Queen song,
1503
01:35:04.539 --> 01:35:08.180
We Are the Champions, it supposedly ends with of the world,
1504
01:35:08.619 --> 01:35:11.539
but it just fades out now. So I don't know.
1505
01:35:15.079 --> 01:35:20.600
Why are they always messing with us? I mean, yeah,
1506
01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:24.119
the point of the Mandela Effect is a large portion
1507
01:35:24.420 --> 01:35:28.239
of people will remember things a certain way while another
1508
01:35:29.079 --> 01:35:35.699
portion equally do not. And which is right or which
1509
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:38.260
is wrong. Yeah.
1510
01:35:38.300 --> 01:35:44.210
You think that that many people can misremember That many things.
1511
01:35:44.510 --> 01:35:46.989
I think there's something to it. Definitely something to it.
1512
01:35:49.449 --> 01:35:51.789
Definitely. Like I said with the Crossman BB gun, that's
1513
01:35:51.810 --> 01:35:54.989
just one of my personal observations, but I know it
1514
01:35:55.029 --> 01:35:56.829
had two S's in it.
1515
01:35:57.079 --> 01:35:58.399
Well, they want to deny it.
1516
01:35:58.640 --> 01:35:59.779
And I've asked people that.
1517
01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:02.479
I mean, it's obvious that, yeah, they can go and
1518
01:36:02.500 --> 01:36:06.600
change things for political correctness or, you know, something. But
1519
01:36:07.140 --> 01:36:10.390
to deny it and not give you any info on it,
1520
01:36:11.239 --> 01:36:15.569
that's what I'm wondering about. What's behind it? What's going on?
1521
01:36:17.189 --> 01:36:18.060
Why the hush-hush?
1522
01:36:21.479 --> 01:36:27.460
Fascinating. We kind of got off track there. It's fitting.
1523
01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:30.060
The show's called Everything Out There. This is some of
1524
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:31.229
the everything that's out there.
1525
01:36:34.550 --> 01:36:37.069
Just more strange things to add to it.
1526
01:36:38.529 --> 01:36:41.310
Last week, I had Pastor Eric from Sound the Shofar
1527
01:36:41.350 --> 01:36:44.510
Messianic Ministries on. And we talked about what all's going
1528
01:36:44.590 --> 01:36:50.789
on with Diddy, a.k.a. Puff Daddy, a.k.a. Sean Combs. What's
1529
01:36:50.810 --> 01:36:52.829
your take on all that? I just have to ask you.
1530
01:36:54.689 --> 01:36:57.500
I really don't have one. I've heard that there's something
1531
01:36:57.539 --> 01:36:58.000
going on.
1532
01:36:58.819 --> 01:37:01.039
It looks like there's some deep doo-doo going on with
1533
01:37:01.060 --> 01:37:04.039
some of that stuff. It's like another Epstein situation. A
1534
01:37:04.100 --> 01:37:05.760
lot of people are in a lot of trouble.
1535
01:37:06.500 --> 01:37:09.909
I just know that they're celebrities, and they'll try to
1536
01:37:09.949 --> 01:37:12.329
buy anything. Yeah.
1537
01:37:15.970 --> 01:37:18.350
Anyway, scary, scary stuff.
1538
01:37:19.569 --> 01:37:24.430
Yeah. Back to the ghost stories. Yeah.
1539
01:37:24.590 --> 01:37:26.729
Another one that I had on here on my list
1540
01:37:27.369 --> 01:37:32.449
is a Craig font. Now it's a mansion. I guess
1541
01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:36.619
you will. It's a state historic site said to be
1542
01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:41.800
haunted by former General James Winchester and his family. That's
1543
01:37:41.880 --> 01:37:48.239
in Castilian Springs. I hope Castilian Springs. Castellan Springs, Tennessee.
1544
01:37:48.399 --> 01:37:51.390
I've never been there. I've been through there. Visitors report
1545
01:37:51.399 --> 01:37:54.670
seeing apparitions, hearing footsteps, and feeling cold spots. It's just
1546
01:37:56.510 --> 01:38:02.010
another big old-looking house, kind of colonial there. Excuse me. And,
1547
01:38:02.109 --> 01:38:07.729
of course, Shiloh, the battlefield there. Shiloh, Tennessee, the National
1548
01:38:07.750 --> 01:38:12.270
Military Park. There's all kinds of spooky stuff there, any
1549
01:38:12.289 --> 01:38:16.170
of these Civil War places. Gettysburg seems to Well, the
1550
01:38:16.210 --> 01:38:19.069
Rosisco can talk on and on and on about Gettysburg.
1551
01:38:19.789 --> 01:38:22.369
That's one of those, there's apparitions, they hear a gunfire,
1552
01:38:22.409 --> 01:38:26.409
they smell gunpowder, feeling uneasy in certain areas.
1553
01:38:27.529 --> 01:38:32.619
You can see, like... see several soldiers, like a troop
1554
01:38:32.739 --> 01:38:39.840
of them, walking by. Yeah, like cannon fires, they've even
1555
01:38:39.859 --> 01:38:47.029
been heard. There's an Ocana Lodge in Tennessee, Tennessee Mountain Inn.
1556
01:38:48.970 --> 01:38:49.680
Where's that at?
1557
01:38:53.239 --> 01:38:58.300
I'm not sure where it's at. That part I don't know.
1558
01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:10.770
I'll try to find out. It's in Jefferson County, Tennessee.
1559
01:39:10.829 --> 01:39:15.369
Jefferson City? Yeah. There's Johnson City, but there's also Jefferson.
1560
01:39:15.590 --> 01:39:18.289
Making sure I had the right one.
1561
01:39:18.609 --> 01:39:20.689
What was the place that used to have another name?
1562
01:39:21.720 --> 01:39:24.479
And now it's called Rocky Top, Tennessee. They named the town.
1563
01:39:24.680 --> 01:39:28.199
That was Lake City. Lake City doesn't exist anymore. My
1564
01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:29.600
dad used to work with a guy that had a
1565
01:39:29.659 --> 01:39:32.090
restaurant up there, had some of the best chili I've
1566
01:39:32.149 --> 01:39:34.149
ever had. We'd go up there to get chili at
1567
01:39:34.189 --> 01:39:37.430
his restaurant. That was in Lake City. Lake City doesn't exist.
1568
01:39:37.710 --> 01:39:41.569
Several years ago, they decided to name it Rocky Top, Tennessee,
1569
01:39:41.649 --> 01:39:42.470
after the song.
1570
01:39:43.390 --> 01:39:45.899
Was it Rock City, maybe? Rock City?
1571
01:39:45.909 --> 01:39:48.220
Because I can remember seeing it. That's down by Chattanooga.
1572
01:39:48.300 --> 01:39:52.029
Okay. Okay. Okay, but the Tennessee Mountain.
1573
01:39:52.069 --> 01:39:54.380
You used to see that on all the barn roofs.
1574
01:39:55.600 --> 01:39:59.699
It's in Jefferson City, Jefferson County, Tennessee. And there's a
1575
01:39:59.720 --> 01:40:01.199
ghost of a little girl that's been seen on the
1576
01:40:01.239 --> 01:40:04.399
balcony and in the hallways by guests and employees alike.
1577
01:40:05.180 --> 01:40:08.199
She's very sweet and friendly, but who she is is
1578
01:40:08.220 --> 01:40:11.140
the mystery. Nobody knows who she is. It's a ghostly
1579
01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:12.020
little friendly girl.
1580
01:40:12.850 --> 01:40:16.369
Yeah, Lake City was formerly Coal Creek. It's kind of
1581
01:40:16.569 --> 01:40:22.479
in the middle between Anderson and Campbell Counties. small town, 1,628
1582
01:40:22.479 --> 01:40:28.489
people as of the 2020 census. In 2014, they officially
1583
01:40:28.569 --> 01:40:31.729
changed the name from Lake City to Rocky Top after
1584
01:40:31.789 --> 01:40:35.550
a last-ditch effort by the copyright owners of the song
1585
01:40:35.590 --> 01:40:38.890
Rocky Top, Felice and Bud LaBriant, was denied by a
1586
01:40:38.909 --> 01:40:46.829
federal court. Now, there's some spooky places up there. There's
1587
01:40:46.869 --> 01:40:51.840
an old mine there from the early 1900s across mountain
1588
01:40:52.489 --> 01:40:55.239
mining or coal mine. They had child coal miners in
1589
01:40:55.260 --> 01:40:59.579
there and heard a lot of spooky stuff up there.
1590
01:41:00.300 --> 01:41:04.420
Then there was nearby the Fraterville, if you've ever heard
1591
01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:06.920
of that, there was a Fraterville mine disaster that happened
1592
01:41:07.380 --> 01:41:11.970
in 1902. Supposedly still hear screams and wails and stuff
1593
01:41:12.010 --> 01:41:12.649
inside there.
1594
01:41:13.130 --> 01:41:16.409
Those mines or something, like how those, the haunted noises
1595
01:41:16.449 --> 01:41:23.579
and sounds, the Tommyknockers? Yep. usually it's a morning and
1596
01:41:24.020 --> 01:41:26.550
you better get out because there may be a cave
1597
01:41:26.630 --> 01:41:30.470
in there's all kinds of reports about they hear.
1598
01:41:30.329 --> 01:41:32.189
They say if you hear the tommy knockers you better
1599
01:41:32.210 --> 01:41:32.909
hightail it.
1600
01:41:33.329 --> 01:41:35.609
Oh yeah i believe i would.
1601
01:41:37.329 --> 01:41:40.050
Yeah if i hear anything underground i i don't like
1602
01:41:40.090 --> 01:41:42.100
that i've been in caves and stuff i've been in
1603
01:41:42.119 --> 01:41:45.020
some haunted caves but uh you know we talked about
1604
01:41:45.060 --> 01:41:47.579
bell witch cave there's a used to be caverns of
1605
01:41:47.600 --> 01:41:51.630
the ridge there in uh box county it's Jerky Caverns
1606
01:41:51.670 --> 01:41:54.180
was the other name of it. It was supposedly haunted.
1607
01:41:54.189 --> 01:41:56.500
They always did that up real nice for Halloween and
1608
01:41:56.520 --> 01:41:59.800
had a haunted walkthrough and stuff, but that is just creepy,
1609
01:42:00.500 --> 01:42:03.760
being that far underground. That's part of the cave system
1610
01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:07.060
there that connects into the Mammoth Cave system, which goes
1611
01:42:07.100 --> 01:42:10.069
for miles and miles and miles and miles. I made
1612
01:42:10.090 --> 01:42:11.409
a video about Mammoth Cave.
1613
01:42:11.829 --> 01:42:15.970
Yeah, I believe you talked about that before. That might
1614
01:42:15.989 --> 01:42:18.449
have been when it was still among the missing people.
1615
01:42:19.680 --> 01:42:20.779
Yeah, I think it was.
1616
01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:24.140
I don't know if you've put that video on.
1617
01:42:24.199 --> 01:42:27.970
No, it's still on Tales Untold, but I think it
1618
01:42:27.989 --> 01:42:30.630
still has some of the ATM logos and stuff on it,
1619
01:42:30.649 --> 01:42:39.800
but that was just didn't really fit on Missing Person Mysteries.
1620
01:42:39.850 --> 01:42:41.260
I sit here looking right at it and couldn't think
1621
01:42:41.279 --> 01:42:41.899
of the name of it.
1622
01:42:41.899 --> 01:42:45.119
A little bit more on Ghost Lord, the channel I've got.
1623
01:42:46.159 --> 01:42:55.109
It's at ghostlordyt.com. It's a channel that's anything ghost lore related, superstitions,
1624
01:42:58.060 --> 01:43:04.760
old wives tales even, you know, what do you call,
1625
01:43:05.340 --> 01:43:11.439
like the witch doctors, anything spooky or anything haunted. I
1626
01:43:11.460 --> 01:43:15.050
can even do like a few missing people reports where
1627
01:43:16.029 --> 01:43:21.739
psychics have been help investigators in the cases because they
1628
01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:28.819
supposedly talk to ghosts um haunted real estate there's you
1629
01:43:28.850 --> 01:43:30.869
know i want to do some there's uh i'm going
1630
01:43:30.890 --> 01:43:36.109
to do haunted churches story on haunted churches just things
1631
01:43:36.130 --> 01:43:39.590
that's a little different not saturate saturate and slathered all
1632
01:43:39.670 --> 01:43:42.090
over youtube you know just not like a rehash.
1633
01:43:41.729 --> 01:43:45.560
Just yeah there's so much stuff out there that's been
1634
01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:48.439
Same with these missing person cases. There are certain ones
1635
01:43:48.470 --> 01:43:51.989
that I've done that everybody's covered, but I've got some
1636
01:43:52.029 --> 01:43:56.229
new stuff on the way, so hopefully that haven't been
1637
01:43:56.270 --> 01:43:59.869
done backwards and forwards, so I'm looking forward to that.
1638
01:44:00.810 --> 01:44:04.289
Now that first story, the story I made, I'm still working.
1639
01:44:04.750 --> 01:44:10.670
I had to redo the whole thing, basically. I still
1640
01:44:10.710 --> 01:44:13.989
have some of the images and facts and stuff I
1641
01:44:14.010 --> 01:44:16.109
still had, but A lot of things that I went
1642
01:44:16.130 --> 01:44:18.750
and found on my own, it just didn't sit right
1643
01:44:18.789 --> 01:44:20.210
with me. And I kept wondering about it. And I
1644
01:44:20.289 --> 01:44:25.810
contacted some archives, an archive place, and they gave me
1645
01:44:26.260 --> 01:44:29.500
permission to use some information and stuff. And there were
1646
01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:33.739
some things that I couldn't, you know, I never found
1647
01:44:33.800 --> 01:44:36.100
out if that was true or not. So I had
1648
01:44:36.119 --> 01:44:38.239
to exclude that and take it out. And then my
1649
01:44:38.300 --> 01:44:41.479
audio got messed up. I told a few people, this
1650
01:44:41.500 --> 01:44:45.930
story's haunting me, you know. there's other stuff I've got
1651
01:44:45.949 --> 01:44:49.029
made already ready to go but I'm just trying to
1652
01:44:49.060 --> 01:44:53.140
get this one finished first but anything that's haunted related
1653
01:44:53.739 --> 01:44:58.359
spooky anything woo worldwide woo I'm going to do it
1654
01:45:01.060 --> 01:45:05.760
love it I've always loved the ghost topic paranormal supernatural
1655
01:45:05.779 --> 01:45:09.500
so I finally made a channel I like the name
1656
01:45:09.520 --> 01:45:12.500
and I thought well I'm going to go ahead and
1657
01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:16.390
make that channel that way I can I have that
1658
01:45:16.779 --> 01:45:19.970
name under my belt and nobody takes that name because
1659
01:45:20.369 --> 01:45:24.670
I was certain I wanted that name, Ghost War. I thought, man,
1660
01:45:24.729 --> 01:45:25.829
I'm going to mess around.
1661
01:45:25.869 --> 01:45:27.109
Yeah, that's a catchy name.
1662
01:45:28.310 --> 01:45:30.350
But now there is a game called that and there
1663
01:45:30.409 --> 01:45:33.970
is some channels called that. But as far as I
1664
01:45:34.010 --> 01:45:40.970
have found that there is no paranormal, supernatural story, haunted
1665
01:45:41.489 --> 01:45:45.270
legends or channel that has that name at all it's
1666
01:45:45.329 --> 01:45:48.939
all related to the game so I got lucky very lucky.
1667
01:45:48.770 --> 01:45:54.420
There yeah yeah that's just that's a classic name I
1668
01:45:54.460 --> 01:45:55.699
think you know.
1669
01:45:55.680 --> 01:46:00.380
It's it's um not used as much as folklore but
1670
01:46:01.300 --> 01:46:07.189
it's uh you know folklore is easily understood you know
1671
01:46:07.239 --> 01:46:09.250
ghost lore is the same thing it's just you know
1672
01:46:09.890 --> 01:46:14.359
anything about spooky ghost stuff yeah I'm glad I went
1673
01:46:14.399 --> 01:46:17.920
with the name. I made the logo for it. And.
1674
01:46:17.939 --> 01:46:24.399
Yeah, you did a great job on that logo. And
1675
01:46:24.600 --> 01:46:27.300
you also made one for me for a project that
1676
01:46:27.319 --> 01:46:30.279
I'm working on that I've not disclosed yet. But you
1677
01:46:30.619 --> 01:46:31.770
did a good job with those.
1678
01:46:31.779 --> 01:46:36.069
Yeah. I just like those colors. It's kind of like...
1679
01:46:35.930 --> 01:46:41.670
I'm one of the colors that your typical, like the green, blue, purple, gray, silvery,
1680
01:46:41.750 --> 01:46:45.859
you know, something... associated with spooky stuff you might see
1681
01:46:45.899 --> 01:46:49.779
in movies or like the green and gray cemetery scenes
1682
01:46:49.859 --> 01:46:51.659
or something but these colors here they're a little more
1683
01:46:51.699 --> 01:46:54.449
vibrant but you know I wanted eye catchies and I
1684
01:46:54.470 --> 01:46:57.810
think it's pretty good it's colorful so but it's still
1685
01:46:57.850 --> 01:47:02.409
related you know basically to the title I think it
1686
01:47:02.510 --> 01:47:05.869
is anyway yeah I think they it blends good together
1687
01:47:05.909 --> 01:47:11.939
so but um well now I've got a question.
1688
01:47:11.659 --> 01:47:14.050
For you Okay, hopefully I've got an answer.
1689
01:47:15.270 --> 01:47:17.949
Okay, you and Nicole, when you were married, you stayed
1690
01:47:18.029 --> 01:47:21.930
at the second most haunted house in the state there.
1691
01:47:24.109 --> 01:47:26.220
And you were going to go over some evidence or
1692
01:47:27.189 --> 01:47:29.880
maybe some audio or I think that you were going
1693
01:47:29.899 --> 01:47:31.640
to try to set up something to try to catch
1694
01:47:31.659 --> 01:47:35.479
something spooky. Did you ever catch anything spooky from that?
1695
01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:38.659
No, we didn't catch anything. There's a place called the
1696
01:47:38.699 --> 01:47:41.390
Carriage House. It's a bed and breakfast. But we did
1697
01:47:41.430 --> 01:47:46.250
have some strange experiences. Mulder was with us. And I
1698
01:47:46.270 --> 01:47:50.050
looked all over, couldn't find his leash to take him outside.
1699
01:47:50.689 --> 01:47:53.010
And then I walked back in the bedroom and there
1700
01:47:53.029 --> 01:47:55.170
it was laying stretched out across the bed. I had
1701
01:47:55.250 --> 01:47:56.970
not even had it in that room. It had been
1702
01:47:57.029 --> 01:47:58.010
out in the sitting room.
1703
01:47:58.390 --> 01:48:00.829
I see. That's more of what we were talking about.
1704
01:48:01.029 --> 01:48:04.310
Yeah, like with your watch there. And there's just, I
1705
01:48:04.340 --> 01:48:06.380
don't know, it felt kind of strange in there. But
1706
01:48:07.100 --> 01:48:10.220
it was a big old colonial there. And actually where
1707
01:48:10.239 --> 01:48:12.279
the bed and breakfast was had been at the actual
1708
01:48:12.380 --> 01:48:16.289
carriage house for the big house. But it was appointed
1709
01:48:16.329 --> 01:48:20.949
very nicely. But yeah. we spent part of our honeymoon
1710
01:48:20.970 --> 01:48:22.810
there and in Rhode Island.
1711
01:48:24.029 --> 01:48:27.029
I was hoping you would at least got one good
1712
01:48:27.250 --> 01:48:29.810
photo or something.
1713
01:48:29.890 --> 01:48:32.340
I had some experiences, but didn't catch anything.
1714
01:48:37.880 --> 01:48:42.409
Have you In the state, since you've been there, have
1715
01:48:42.430 --> 01:48:47.119
you found or saw anything worth mentioning that's very odd
1716
01:48:47.159 --> 01:48:48.600
or strange?
1717
01:48:48.699 --> 01:48:51.819
There's a cemetery that I'm going to do a video
1718
01:48:51.840 --> 01:48:53.039
about called Spider Gates.
1719
01:48:54.699 --> 01:48:57.319
Oh, that sounds good.
1720
01:48:57.340 --> 01:49:00.420
There's a witch tree there and it has a portal
1721
01:49:00.439 --> 01:49:01.720
to hell or something like that.
1722
01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:04.649
That's the third time this week I've heard something about
1723
01:49:04.689 --> 01:49:05.350
a witch tree.
1724
01:49:05.949 --> 01:49:06.210
Yeah.
1725
01:49:06.670 --> 01:49:07.489
Third time this week.
1726
01:49:08.510 --> 01:49:13.489
Apparently they're common here in New England. Of course, you know,
1727
01:49:13.510 --> 01:49:16.170
I'm not that far from Salem, Massachusetts, so there you go.
1728
01:49:17.670 --> 01:49:20.229
He was talking about him. I saw a video on one,
1729
01:49:20.569 --> 01:49:24.000
a witch tree up Kentucky, after a table talking about him.
1730
01:49:24.039 --> 01:49:27.100
And then I watched that video, and now you're mentioning it. So, yeah,
1731
01:49:27.119 --> 01:49:32.460
that's the third time this week. So.
1732
01:49:33.260 --> 01:49:36.689
And there's one story about who put somebody in the
1733
01:49:36.739 --> 01:49:38.149
witch elm or something like that.
1734
01:49:38.189 --> 01:49:38.529
Yeah.
1735
01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:41.760
Found somebody murdered and stuffed in a tree. Have you
1736
01:49:41.819 --> 01:49:42.699
ever heard that story?
1737
01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:47.340
Yep. I saw it off of BuzzFeed.
1738
01:49:48.439 --> 01:49:48.979
Yeah.
1739
01:49:49.119 --> 01:49:52.680
Those two guys, they're funny. Ryan and Shane, I believe.
1740
01:49:55.579 --> 01:50:00.739
I forget the name. Something like Alma or maybe.
1741
01:50:01.380 --> 01:50:03.539
Let me look here real quick.
1742
01:50:05.229 --> 01:50:06.550
Nobody knew who she even was.
1743
01:50:07.159 --> 01:50:09.000
Who put the bop in the bop she bop? That's
1744
01:50:09.020 --> 01:50:14.250
not the right one. Who put in the witch elm?
1745
01:50:15.010 --> 01:50:20.869
Who put Bella in the witch elm? Let's see. It's
1746
01:50:20.930 --> 01:50:24.590
a final form series of graffiti connected with the discovery
1747
01:50:24.649 --> 01:50:28.770
in 1943 of remains of a murdered woman inside a
1748
01:50:28.810 --> 01:50:32.350
witch elm on the outskirts of Hagley in Worcestershire, England.
1749
01:50:33.649 --> 01:50:36.560
The body has remained unidentified and the case unsolved since
1750
01:50:36.619 --> 01:50:41.390
then prompting many media articles and films, as well as dramas,
1751
01:50:41.590 --> 01:50:45.670
an opera, and a musical. Wow.
1752
01:50:46.789 --> 01:50:49.510
They made an opera? Okay, an opera.
1753
01:50:49.649 --> 01:50:51.270
We need to make a video about that.
1754
01:50:53.149 --> 01:50:54.909
Yeah, that's, I mean, to tell you the truth, that's
1755
01:50:54.939 --> 01:50:58.439
the only time I believe I've heard of that story
1756
01:50:58.840 --> 01:51:02.520
from that channel. So that's probably not one, you know,
1757
01:51:03.100 --> 01:51:06.630
saturated everywhere, and, you know, it's It's a missing person.
1758
01:51:06.689 --> 01:51:09.409
It's been talked about, but I've never talked about it.
1759
01:51:09.670 --> 01:51:12.609
I know of it just in passing, but it'd be
1760
01:51:12.649 --> 01:51:13.539
worth looking into.
1761
01:51:17.159 --> 01:51:19.800
But me, myself, I want to go to some haunted prisons.
1762
01:51:19.859 --> 01:51:21.979
I want to go to haunted hospitals.
1763
01:51:24.220 --> 01:51:27.520
Yeah, there's just something about a haunted hospital that really
1764
01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:29.840
gives me the willies. I don't like hospitals anyway, and
1765
01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:33.000
a haunted hospital would just be times ten.
1766
01:51:33.890 --> 01:51:36.670
Be like, Facing two fears at once.
1767
01:51:37.510 --> 01:51:37.729
Yeah.
1768
01:51:38.329 --> 01:51:41.250
A hospital and a ghost, you know.
1769
01:51:41.270 --> 01:51:43.529
I like the stuff, you know, like haunted schools and
1770
01:51:44.090 --> 01:51:48.289
haunted amusement parks. And, you know, you expect a graveyard
1771
01:51:48.329 --> 01:51:51.010
to be haunted. You expect certain things to be haunted.
1772
01:51:51.050 --> 01:51:54.130
But a haunted school, that really appeals to me. I've
1773
01:51:54.149 --> 01:51:57.409
been in a haunted school, Fairview Elementary, where I went
1774
01:51:57.430 --> 01:52:00.670
to school was haunted. And Brenda and I, long after
1775
01:52:00.710 --> 01:52:04.409
we'd left there and was going to school elsewhere, ventured
1776
01:52:04.449 --> 01:52:08.439
in one night. found it unlocked and kind of trespassed.
1777
01:52:08.520 --> 01:52:12.020
I'm sure the statute of limitations has run on it now.
1778
01:52:12.720 --> 01:52:15.239
But we heard what sounded like a woman in high
1779
01:52:15.260 --> 01:52:20.420
heels walking across the floor of his combination auditorium, gymnasium,
1780
01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:24.180
and lunchroom, but had those windows way up high. The
1781
01:52:24.220 --> 01:52:26.279
moon was shining and we could see the whole place
1782
01:52:26.300 --> 01:52:28.699
was lit up. There was nothing in there, but we
1783
01:52:28.720 --> 01:52:31.439
could hear it coming toward us. And there were stories.
1784
01:52:31.539 --> 01:52:34.760
It was haunted by the ghost of a former teacher
1785
01:52:35.640 --> 01:52:37.579
Some say she died at the school. Some say she
1786
01:52:37.619 --> 01:52:40.859
died on the way home in a traffic accident. Still
1787
01:52:40.930 --> 01:52:44.069
another was that she just died and then came back
1788
01:52:44.109 --> 01:52:49.170
to haunt it. But there's definitely something in there. We
1789
01:52:49.189 --> 01:52:50.630
didn't waste any time getting out of there. That's for
1790
01:52:50.689 --> 01:52:51.109
damn sure.
1791
01:52:52.029 --> 01:52:52.329
Oh, yeah.
1792
01:52:53.550 --> 01:52:55.850
I talk about that in my book, My Strange World.
1793
01:52:58.520 --> 01:53:01.859
You mentioned Franklin or something earlier, and I thought it
1794
01:53:01.880 --> 01:53:05.069
was one of Tennessee's oldest towns. Well, The oldest town
1795
01:53:05.430 --> 01:53:06.930
is Jonesboro.
1796
01:53:07.409 --> 01:53:12.029
Jonesboro, historic Jonesboro. That's home of the International Storytelling Festival,
1797
01:53:12.069 --> 01:53:15.579
which happens in October. I've been there not as a participant,
1798
01:53:15.619 --> 01:53:18.800
just as an audience member, but that's some good stuff.
1799
01:53:19.399 --> 01:53:23.060
Every single building on that main drag there in Jonesboro
1800
01:53:23.100 --> 01:53:25.560
is haunted. Historic Jonesboro, they like for you to say
1801
01:53:25.579 --> 01:53:30.319
it that way. I had a digital camera and every
1802
01:53:30.420 --> 01:53:33.819
picture I took there was some weird mist or apparition
1803
01:53:33.880 --> 01:53:36.399
or something. And then before I could get back home,
1804
01:53:37.140 --> 01:53:41.739
that memory card was wiped out. I wanted those pictures back.
1805
01:53:41.800 --> 01:53:44.800
I sent it in for like a forensic place. And
1806
01:53:44.840 --> 01:53:48.000
they said, this doesn't look like this has ever even
1807
01:53:48.020 --> 01:53:51.899
been formatted, let alone had pictures on it. But I
1808
01:53:51.939 --> 01:53:52.930
did and they were gone.
1809
01:53:53.520 --> 01:53:56.310
People's evidence just. Yeah.
1810
01:53:56.909 --> 01:53:59.829
I mean, I had probably a hundred pictures of weird
1811
01:53:59.869 --> 01:54:04.819
stuff in historic Jonesboro. All gone. Strange. And some of
1812
01:54:04.850 --> 01:54:07.270
those places, they'll tell you about their hauntings and their
1813
01:54:07.289 --> 01:54:09.750
ghosts and stuff there. Now, I hope they did okay
1814
01:54:09.789 --> 01:54:11.609
in the flood. Have you heard anything about Jonesboro?
1815
01:54:12.789 --> 01:54:20.850
Uh-uh. No. I've not heard. Well, I mean, I may have.
1816
01:54:20.869 --> 01:54:23.670
It's just I've heard a little of this and a
1817
01:54:23.670 --> 01:54:28.989
little of that. I can't pry it apart to tell
1818
01:54:29.010 --> 01:54:30.960
you if I have specifically about it.
1819
01:54:33.300 --> 01:54:36.619
Well, again, uh, God bless, uh, anybody in the wake
1820
01:54:36.640 --> 01:54:40.199
of the floods and the, uh, the hurricane tsunami, whatever
1821
01:54:40.479 --> 01:54:43.279
hit up there in that area, Asheville. I mean, you know,
1822
01:54:43.300 --> 01:54:45.220
that's up in the mountains. You don't think about Asheville
1823
01:54:45.260 --> 01:54:50.869
is flooding. I think they had some dams that gave
1824
01:54:51.109 --> 01:54:54.670
way and stuff up there too, but, uh, God bless, uh,
1825
01:54:54.810 --> 01:54:57.890
you people there in the mountains, uh, hope you get
1826
01:54:57.930 --> 01:55:01.130
your power back and, uh, Uh, I heard there's just
1827
01:55:01.149 --> 01:55:04.229
a lot of devastation and incredible loss of lives and things.
1828
01:55:04.250 --> 01:55:06.329
Just some of the reports I'm hearing out there. It's
1829
01:55:06.350 --> 01:55:14.880
just devastating. Well, and on that somber note, uh, Cassita,
1830
01:55:14.909 --> 01:55:18.220
we've got about five minutes left here. Anything you want
1831
01:55:18.239 --> 01:55:21.659
to add or say, or tell people about, uh, now
1832
01:55:21.680 --> 01:55:24.840
I know you join us often or join Lee often
1833
01:55:24.899 --> 01:55:26.859
over on his show. I try to go over there too,
1834
01:55:28.260 --> 01:55:31.579
especially on Saturday nights, but, uh, If anybody wants to
1835
01:55:31.619 --> 01:55:34.060
see you and talk to you, that's probably the best place.
1836
01:55:35.340 --> 01:55:40.760
Yeah. Lee's live, 6 Eastern, a few days a week there.
1837
01:55:41.300 --> 01:55:44.250
He's on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays.
1838
01:55:44.890 --> 01:55:45.090
Yep.
1839
01:55:45.729 --> 01:55:48.409
First War Audio. I'll put a link in the description
1840
01:55:48.430 --> 01:55:50.670
to that, too. And that's some of his music you
1841
01:55:50.689 --> 01:55:53.390
heard there at the break. I didn't hear back from him,
1842
01:55:53.409 --> 01:55:56.270
so I don't know if he'll be letting me use
1843
01:55:56.310 --> 01:55:59.140
the song that he wrote for you. But if not,
1844
01:55:59.619 --> 01:56:04.170
you can go to his... channel on Thursday or Saturday nights.
1845
01:56:05.310 --> 01:56:08.949
Knight Rider is what he does on Tuesday nights where
1846
01:56:08.989 --> 01:56:12.029
he writes an original track. But those other two nights,
1847
01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:18.060
you'll like it. But he wrote a song about Cathedral.
1848
01:56:18.079 --> 01:56:22.479
It's just called Cathedral Cat Gray, a.k.a. Love Online. It's
1849
01:56:22.500 --> 01:56:26.260
a hypothetical situation. But, yeah, I'd convince you to come
1850
01:56:26.319 --> 01:56:29.020
over there. And he does that. He'll pick people out
1851
01:56:29.039 --> 01:56:32.199
of the audience and write a song about them. And
1852
01:56:33.619 --> 01:56:35.659
that's a hit. That's got a hit all over it.
1853
01:56:36.279 --> 01:56:38.350
It sounds kind of like a movie song or something,
1854
01:56:38.390 --> 01:56:38.699
you know?
1855
01:56:40.270 --> 01:56:43.689
It does. It sounds like those 80s rom-coms, like the
1856
01:56:43.729 --> 01:56:53.319
closing credits or something. But he's a very talented singer, songwriter, musician, multi-instrumentalist.
1857
01:56:53.859 --> 01:56:57.239
Yeah, he's got instrumentals. He's got some slow love songs.
1858
01:56:57.300 --> 01:57:00.939
He's got some harder stuff that's more like a rock song. Now,
1859
01:57:00.960 --> 01:57:04.000
he does have this 80s quality vibe for him. I mean,
1860
01:57:04.039 --> 01:57:04.310
about him.
1861
01:57:04.939 --> 01:57:06.579
I love the 80s. I came up in the 80s.
1862
01:57:06.619 --> 01:57:11.340
I graduated high school in 1981. So my super formative years,
1863
01:57:11.399 --> 01:57:13.340
my college years and stuff was in the 80s. And
1864
01:57:14.020 --> 01:57:16.899
my favorite decade ever. My wife was born in 1985.
1865
01:57:16.899 --> 01:57:21.640
How about that? There you go, Steve.
1866
01:57:21.659 --> 01:57:22.859
Congratulations, Steve.
1867
01:57:23.260 --> 01:57:25.500
Thank you. Thank you. And now we've got a baby
1868
01:57:26.100 --> 01:57:28.060
born in 2024.
1869
01:57:28.060 --> 01:57:31.659
Oh, he's so adorable. So stinking cute. He is.
1870
01:57:31.699 --> 01:57:34.439
He just, I don't care if he is my baby,
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he is absolutely adorable.
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If it wasn't your baby or not, he's adorable.
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Yeah, he's a precious, he's a Gerber baby. But if
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you want to see him, he'll be on Lee's show
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Saturday night. Of course, this will be Sunday that you
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hear this. He'll also be on with me Monday night
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on Cisco. I usually bring him on to say hi
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to people and then pass him back to Mama. But, Kathina,
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once again, I want to thank you for being my
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guest here on everything out there. We'll put links in
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the show notes to Ghost Lore. Looking forward to whatever
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you got. coming up over there and uh i'll be
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seeing you tomorrow night although it's in the past now
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that people are hearing this but i'll see you saturday
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night on lee's show uh i'm getting ready to do
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a late night live stream on missing person mysteries uh
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drop in over there if you can.
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I'll come and uh drop some links to you know
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a lot so I'll come over and drop some links.
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Yeah, I appreciate you being a mod in there and
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01:58:33.539 --> 01:58:36.409
dropping links to all the stuff I've got going on
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out there. My books on Etsy, my blog around the campfire,
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all my channels, everything going on. I'll drop a.
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Link, too, if anybody would like to send a gift.
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Yeah, and I appreciate that. The baby's got my stuff.
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I got it. You'll get show ready. I'm trying this
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with the round camera, so I'm going to see how
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that works. I kind of, this has got me like
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in that spooky tree there.
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When I turn my phone upright, there's like a purple, thin, smoky,
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or foggy looking halo that was around on there, either
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that or when I was on there with Lee. Spooky.
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But when you turn it landscape mode, it disappears. It's
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only when I turned it upright. I thought that was
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a real cool thing. If you ever go ghost hunting
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and you need a hand, I'm just a message away.
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There you go. All right, folks, that's going to wrap
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it up for this episode of Everything Out There. On
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behalf of Cathita, Cat Gray, and myself, I'm Steve Stockton.
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I'll see you a little further on down the trail.
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You see us a little further on down the trail.
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Tell your animals we said hi. Good night, everybody.