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Os and Scott catch up, talk about some recent messages from listeners and Os' overseas adventures, before getting into the big political news: Labor's immigration policy is here.
They discuss the details of the policy, why it may not have the intended effect on immigration, and the evidence that tells us political strategies that appease the right on immigration don't end well for centre-left governments.
Then, the dive into the latest job cuts at the ABC and ask why Hugh Marks has not been forced into any public explanation of the cuts, given there are no government budget cuts.
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