Jax Taylor, Vanderpump History, and The Randall Scandal

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Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello, and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, guys,
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I had such a juicy, long interview with Jax Taylor
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from Vanderpump in person. You're going to get that in
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a second. But first, I just want to remind you
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I did this weekend. But first, let's get into some
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other amazing Real Housewives scoop. As you know, everyone was
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disappointed to hear that the legacy cast, all the OGs
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from New York, were going to get together and we
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were going to at least have that show. And then
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negotiations happened, they fell through, Everyone said it's Jill Zarin's
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fault because she wanted to be paid as much as
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the other girls. And all Jill Zarin said was, look,
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why can't we just do it favored nations? Everybody gets
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the same, like what happened on Ultimate Girls Trip. We
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all got $ 100, 000 for the week. They're like, no, we're
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just not doing it. But wait a minute, that's actually
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a really great idea. Why don't we just do Ultimate
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Girls Trip with the girls from Legacy, but not invite
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Jill Zarin? Very sad about that. But the cast is
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still great. We've got Ramona, Luann, Dorinda, Sonia, and then
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they're bringing back Kelly Bessamone and also Kristen Taichman, which
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I thought was interesting because when I interviewed Ramona, I said,
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was there anybody that you didn't totally jive with? And
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she's like, I actually really didn't think Kristen was like
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that interesting. Like, I mean, she's a really nice girl.
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She's a really pretty girl. I just didn't think she
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was that great. Anyway, maybe that's why they cast her.
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Maybe they heard the podcast and thought, you know what?
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Let's bring back a pretty girl that Ramona doesn't totally like.
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So anyway, they are going to Scary Island. They're staying
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at the same resort that they did, the same beautiful
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house that they did, I guess, in St. Barts that season. Oh,
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maybe it wasn't Scary Island. It was whatever, season five.
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Season five, I guess they're staying at the same place
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in St. Barts or something. They're only going to stay
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there for a week. And that's what's going to happen. Bethany,
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they had, now we know from Andy Cohen's book that
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he talked to Bethany about it. And Bethany said, make
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me an offer I can't refuse. But I guess they
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gave her one that she did refuse. And so then
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she was out. Instead, she's doing what a Juicy Cooper
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described as middle class cosplay. Brilliant way to describe it. Now, Bethany,
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to fill her days, is going to places that middle-class
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people go. But for Bethany, oh, my God, unbelievable. Olive Garden,
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are you freaking kidding me? Free breadsticks?
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Yeah.
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She goes to the dollar store. She goes to Forever 21.
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And she reviews those the same way she did review
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makeup from drugstores. So, you know, good for her. Seems
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like she's killing it. Anyway. Then we got the trailer
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dropped for the new Real Housewives franchise, which are younger,
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interesting women that we have never seen before. And I
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don't know, people are kind of like.
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Eh, eh.
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I will watch it. Hopefully there's enough juice in there
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that'll make me stay. I love seeing anything in New
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York City. These girls are all really attractive and seem interesting.
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I hope they have some foundation of knowing each other. Otherwise,
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it might be a difficult sell. As you know, when
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the cast of New York started, almost all of them
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knew each other when it began because Jill put them
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all together. And that's why Vanderpump is so successful, which
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we talk about in the show later today. So hopefully
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this will be a hit and we can all really
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enjoy it. And now for Jax Taylor. Hello and welcome
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to Juicy Scoop. I'm very excited, you guys. I am
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Jax Taylor. And I saw you last weekend and I
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was very excited to see you. You looked adorable. Brandi
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and I were a little handsy with you and I
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did an apology. to Cruz and Brittany.
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Oh, you don't have to apologize.
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For being a little handsy for you.
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They know who you are.
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I know Brittany wouldn't care. I know Brittany wouldn't care,
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but we had a lot of fun hanging out at
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one of my favorite spots in La Quinta.
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Oh my gosh.
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The Nest.
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The Nest is awesome. I love that place.
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It really is so fun. And we were just talking
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about how I was like, I didn't know if you're
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friends with Spencer Pratt, but I'm like, you guys should
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be best friends.
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So, I've been going back and forth with him. We've
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been texting each other. Obviously, he's a father. I'm a father.
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Sometimes life gets in the way. We both got boys.
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We're both ex-villains of reality. Well, villains. I don't talk
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about ex. I'm still a villain. Ex-villains, villains, whatever you
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want to think of, of reality TV. I think we
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have a lot in common. I do, too. I reached
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out to him, I want to say, it was a
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couple years ago. Hey, man, how you doing? Yada, yada, yada.
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and we were talking about reality show and this and that,
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and we were talking about doing something together. And I
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know he was in the middle of something going on
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with him and Heidi doing a podcast together. He's like,
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I think this is a great idea. I'm just in
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the middle of doing something here, but let me see
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what's going on with that, and then I'll get back
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to you. And then we were supposed to have dinner,
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and then something came up with Brittany, and then something
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came up with Heidi. So it's in the... We're trying
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to make this happen.
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I think it would be great.
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I think it would be hilarious if him and I
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had a show together.
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Yes. I think you're very... similar and in a fun way,
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not too similar, like the same person, but just, I
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think your perspectives on Hollywood and reality show and everything.
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And that's why I want to have you on because
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I wanted to have you back. You were on a
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couple of years ago and we've got obviously so many questions.
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I even had a title for it. I even told
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him the washed up boys. I really loved it. I
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thought it was hilarious. I'd like the washed up boys,
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you know, but it would, you.
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Know, like a lot instead of lost boys, the.
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Lost boys, the washed up boys, washed up reality. Yes.
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You know, like I said, like I said, him and
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I get along really well. And I would love, love, Spencer,
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if you're listening to this right now, got to do
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something together.
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Oh, yeah.
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Got to do something together.
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Well, I will let him know. Okay. Let's talk about,
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first of all, where were you when you heard, I
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know where I was. I was getting my roots done.
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Where were you when you first heard about Sandoval, Tom
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Sandoval having an affair with Raquel?
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I got a phone call. Okay, so the day before...
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I'm going to back it up a little bit. The
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day before, Brittany and I were... We took crews to
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the Long Beach Aquarium. Then we decided to go to dinner.
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I got a text on my phone from Andy saying, hey,
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would you want to come on and watch What Happens
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Live next week? You know, just this. And I'm like,
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this was just random. This was just... This is before
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I even heard anything. He's like, would you like to
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come on and watch What Happens Live next week? I
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was like, yeah, that would be awesome. Whatever. How long
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had it been?
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It had been since before you left the show, right?
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Right, before I left the show, right? So then... The
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next day, I woke up. My friend Jason, Janet's husband,
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I don't know if you guys know who that is,
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reached out to me. He's like, you were right.
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Wait, I've heard about this Janet girl.
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Janet. Who is Janet? She is Brittany and I's really
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close friend. Her and her husband are really close friends.
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They live down the street from us. They're in the circle.
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They're friends with Kristen, too.
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Kristen, Ariana. In fact, she runs Ariana's merch line.
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Okay, but she's not really been ever featured on the
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show or just at parties?
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She's at parties and stuff like that. Okay, got it.
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So anyway, so Jason, her husband, texted me at 8
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o'clock in the morning. He's like, you were right all
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along about that guy. And that's all he said. And
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I'm like, what?
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You're like, what guy?
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He's like, you haven't seen your phone? I go, no,
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it's 8 o'clock in the morning. I just woke up.
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I haven't looked at my phone yet. I'm drinking my coffee.
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He said, look at your phone. And I looked at
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my phone, and I was like, oh, my God.
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Did you have, like, a ton of texts?
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I had a ton of messages coming through. And then,
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you know... And then it's so funny to watch what
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happens live. I'd be like, Jax, can we put you
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on hold for a week after? I'm like, thank you, God.
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I was going to text you guys saying, please, I
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don't want to be the first one to watch what
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happens live after this broke out. And they were all laughing.
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They're like, no, no, we wouldn't do that to you.
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So we had Lisa on and then I was the
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following week. But so, yeah, that's how it all happened.
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So were the texts from your cast members or was
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it like everybody?
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Everybody. I had TMZ. I had all the tabloids. I
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had my friends. I had family. And I've been out
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of it for a while, so I don't really keep
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in touch.
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And when you heard, was there any doubt in your mind?
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or like, cause I mean, when I first thought I
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was like, first I, someone sent it and I was like, no,
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there got it mixed up. But once it was TMZ
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and then I wrote to Lala and she confirmed it.
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I was like, of course I was blown away because
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as someone that's just a fan, we were just seeing
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all the dumb rumors about her getting with sports, never Sandoval.
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Right. That was a decoy.
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Yeah. Now we know.
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I mean, Yeah, that was a decoy.
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But when you first heard that, what was your first
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thought about it?
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Not Chuck at all. This has been going on for years.
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He finally just got caught. I've been saying this for years.
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I've been saying this for years.
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So now that I want to get to the deep part.
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Nobody wanted to believe me.
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When we watched your wedding.
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Yeah.
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And you were very annoyed with him and you're having
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a fallout with him. As a viewer, obviously not seeing
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except for what they give us from Vanderpump.
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Right.
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It was like slightly confusing. why you were so irritated
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with him.
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I've been irritated with him for a long time. But
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now explain why. I just, you know, Tom and I
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have been friends, I guess, well, we were friends for
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a very long time. He just kind of went off
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on his own path with different things in life. He's
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very eccentric. You know, I'm not, I'm a very, I
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don't know what's the right word.
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Well, like, let's just go back. The show started, you, okay,
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you came out here, one of the questions was, when
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you came out here from Florida, Like you were modeling there,
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but you came out here to pursue acting. Like why
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did you come to LA?
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Well, I came out here. I did the New York circuit.
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I did the Miami circuit. I did Europe. The next
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stop was California. It's one place I haven't been yet.
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And I, and Tom lived out here and you.
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Know, and you met Tom in Miami modeling. Yeah.
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He lived in my apartment and then I moved into
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his apartment. So it was kind of vice versa. Okay.
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And, uh, that was in 2000. Tom and I met
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each other in, I think, 2000. And then he moved
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into my apartment in 2003 in Miami. And then when
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you guys met, you were like 18.
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Wow.
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We've been friends for a long time. And like I said,
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everything was fine. I think it's just, you know, you.
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Guys are all working at the restaurant.
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And it's, and you and Stassi are a couple from
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working at the restaurant.
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And then he and Kristen are a couple.
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And then Katie and Schwartz were a couple.
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And you're all working at the restaurant with Sheena. And
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you first hear from whom that they want to film
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you guys possibly for a show.
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It was like a month in of me working there.
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Lisa kind of came up because I was out. I
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was moving back to Florida.
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Why were you going to leave?
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I just was done. You know, I was at an
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age where I was like, okay, I've done this game
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of modeling, acting, whatever. I need to go back and
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get a real job. You know, I talked to my
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parents and I was like, I was what, 30 at
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the time. I think I was 30, something like that.
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And I was like, you know, my dad, my parents
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are conservative, you know, where's, where's your money going? What
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are you doing? And this and that. And, and I
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was just at the point where I was just tired
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of chasing money. It was a tough, it's a tough world.
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You live paycheck to paycheck and bartending.
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Yeah. It was like, this is not what I want
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to do with my life. Yes, it's fun, but it's
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only fun for so long. And then what am I
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going to do?
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And nothing had like popped. You hadn't gotten that movie
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or that series.
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No, I did a bunch of little things and I
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was modeling it, but I was modeling, but there was,
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it just wasn't fulfilling anymore. I was doing it for
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so long. It was fun in my twenties, but now
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you're getting, I'm getting a little older, my thirties. It's
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just not, it wasn't fun anymore, you know?
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And had you been a fan of reality TV or
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seen it or been approached by any other, like how
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you had been approached to be on like a dating
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show or anything when you were pursuing all this stuff?
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Uh, Brittany, uh, sorry, Stassi and I did a, uh, uh,
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a little reality show together in the Bahamas for like
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four days. It was a pilot. And other than that, no,
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we never, I never got into that. It wasn't my thing.
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You know, I, I watched a little, uh, MTV, like
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real world road rules, but that's how long ago this was.
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So reality TV was kind of just still in the
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works when we started. It was how many years ago? 10,
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11 years ago. Yeah. I mean, reality was kind of
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It was good, but it wasn't like if you were
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doing reality, then you couldn't be an actor. Now it's
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not like that anymore. But in those days when we started.
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It was like a kiss of death.
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It was a kiss of death. Exactly. So my friends
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that were like, hey, should we do the show? Like
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Tom and Tom were still trying to be quote unquote actors.
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So they're like, you know, I don't know if this
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is a good idea. I want to be an actor,
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you know. And so I thought that time that was
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the big confusion. That was the big like hold up.
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So they were. We had to really sell them on it.
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Oh, so you guys kind of knew. Okay, so you
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convinced your group of friends, let's just do it.
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Right, right. Let's just do it. Why not? You know,
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and see what happens. And then I think slowly but
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surely reality people were starting to do acting. I think
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NeNe was like the first one to actually get into
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the acting world.
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Yeah, she did.
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And I think there was a couple real world people
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too that kind of made it into the acting world.
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A couple. So I think it was happening, but it
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was just very slow. And I think people were just
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nervous about, you know, crossing that world, you know.
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So okay so then the show is on and i
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didn't even really watch it in the beginning yeah because
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i was like oh i don't know what this show
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like i wasn't that into it and then when i
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started doing the podcast people were like oh you should
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have these people on so then i had kristen and
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then i had stassi and then i was hooked and
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i was so now i know all what's.
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Going on you know it's so funny i uh I
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dove back into, I don't know if anybody knows, I
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tell everybody all the time, I don't watch the show.
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I don't like watching myself on TV.
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So when you would air on a Tuesday night and
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you were on it, you would avoid it.
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No, I've never, I think until watching for the Peacock show,
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that's the first time really that I've watched a full episode.
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Why is that?
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I still like watching myself on TV.
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Because it was hard, yeah.
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Well, it's not hard. Well, yeah, watching myself was, oh
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my gosh, it was great. So Brittany and I have
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a podcast, When Reality Hits, and I decided to go
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back and did like the first episode two episodes to
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dive back into it because Brittany didn't really come on
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until season five. So we were going to go into
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it and watch a couple of the episodes. So I'm like, Brittany,
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I don't know if I can do this. She's like,
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let's just have a couple of drinks, grab a couple
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of beers, sit it down. Let's watch this. I'm like,
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I don't know if I can do this. And sure enough,
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I watched it and I was like, it was cringy.
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It was, I was like, God, who are you? Who
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is this person? I was just an utter train wreck.
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I'm like, I'm still somewhat of a train wreck, but
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I was a real train wreck then. I was just,
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I was just so lost. I was just such a lost, like,
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very like spur of the moment you know fly by
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the seat of my pants i mean it makes for
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great television don't get me wrong but i was just
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watching myself i'm like how the hell did anybody stand
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me want to be around me tolerate me date me
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how did any i'm watching this i'm like this is
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awful how could anybody watch this this is terrible and
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i'm talking about myself mind you not everybody else i'm
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just talking about me yeah and i just was like
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how am i i can't watch this i think i
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got through 75 of the first episode i go britney
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i can't watch this this is terrible This is just
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really bad.
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So now I, okay, what I think is really interesting
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is I think.
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I'm so embarrassed. Like I'm utterly embarrassed.
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Okay, so there's certain reality stars that I watch and,
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you know, like I interviewed Ramona Singer. You know who
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Ramona is?
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Oh, I know her very well.
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And one of the things that we talked about is
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she really is someone that kind of based on her personality,
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but also like her childhood and that she'd block things out.
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She was kind of the perfect reality star that truly
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forgot that there's cameras. And then you see people come
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on later that are very manipulative and they kind of
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start to plan it out. And you know, they're like
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literally taking notes before they go to the lunch.
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Yeah.
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And you obviously were one of those people. And I
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think that's why you were great to watch.
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It's funny you say that. I never, there was certain
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people on the show that did that, rehearsed themselves. Raquel
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did that when she first jumped out. We would catch her,
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like literally have a script in her hand. And she
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would practice her lines and we would catch them. Like,
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are you reading lines of a reality show? That's supposed
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to be just off the cuff. And she was just
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really nervous at the time in her defense. She was
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just really nervous, but we would catch her like reading
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lines before we're going into a scene. And like, and
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these scenes are like, okay, we're going to go to
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a pool party. Like how could you be practicing lines
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at a pool party? Like, I don't, what are you,
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I don't, you know, I didn't understand that, but yeah,
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that did happen. She was just one of the ones
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that I saw doing it, but there was other people
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that did it because it's, it is nerve wracking. I mean,
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being on a show like this, especially with the girls
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on our show, they're very, You know, new girls don't
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stick around on the show very long, as you know.
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So they get bullied.
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Let's talk about Raquel. And, you know, we know that
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she was a fan of the show.
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Right.
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And she knew that James was going to be performing there.
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And she followed him to like a second location to,
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you know, flirt with him. And lo and behold, now
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she's on the show with her notes before entering. Like,
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what are your thoughts about Raquel? Like, now in retrospect,
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how much do you think she plotted and planned? What
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is your perspective? Everyone knows my perspective.
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I don't know her as well as everybody else. I
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think that she may be going through some things upstairs.
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I don't know what's the right way to say this.
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I think maybe... she needs to get some help. Is
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that the right way to say this? What's the political
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correct way to say this? I think she's got some issues.
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Do we all have issues? Absolutely. Yes, we all do.
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But I think she's got a little bit more than
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most people. And I think maybe the show kind of
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magnified a lot of that. And I think it's a
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very overwhelming show to be on. And I feel like
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she just wanted to be accepted. I feel like she
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was maybe lost before she got on the show. She
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was kind of lost trying to figure out where she
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fit in in society. Maybe like, do I be a waitress?
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Do I finish college? Do I do this? I think
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she was kind of looking for it. And I think
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when she got the pageants, all this stuff, I think,
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I think she was just kind of trying to look
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for herself a little bit. And then she found the
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show or got on the show. And I think she
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was just trying to be accepted and kind of fit
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in where, how can I be the most popular? What
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do I have to do to be the most popular
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or to get where I need to get? And maybe
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that was kind of a way that's, I mean, that's
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kind of how I look at it.
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I mean, what do you think? What is, well, I
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do think the initial thought, which I was going to say,
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one thing that's interesting is when I interviewed like Stassi
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and stuff, it was once Britney was on the scene
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and every person that I interviewed only had the greatest,
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nicest things to say about Brittany. Right. And I was like,
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you do know that I don't think I've ever talked
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to someone that has the most sterling reputation as Brittany,
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that everyone likes her. Everyone believes she was authentic.
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Well, she didn't want to be on the show.
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And she was.
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She didn't, I had to force her to be on.
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She wanted nothing to do with this. So getting her
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on there, I had to like, I had to like,
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like beg her to do this. So in the beginning,
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she was wanting no part of it. So that's, I
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think that kind of, you know, the girl saw that
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and be like, okay, she's not just another one of
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Jax's flings.
484
00:20:38.420 --> 00:20:42.420
So that's my other question. So with the cast, as
485
00:20:42.700 --> 00:20:45.990
someone would date someone new, James being one of them
486
00:20:46.150 --> 00:20:48.730
dating Kristen, how did James come on the show?
487
00:20:49.049 --> 00:20:51.809
Kristen. He kind of finagled his way in through Dodie.
488
00:20:52.349 --> 00:20:55.099
Dodie was kind of, if you're looking for like a
489
00:20:55.180 --> 00:20:58.000
hole in like, it's kind of, If you're looking for
490
00:20:58.019 --> 00:20:59.599
a way to get into- Not a hole.
491
00:20:59.700 --> 00:20:59.960
Not a hole.
492
00:20:59.980 --> 00:21:02.299
Wait a minute. I'm sorry. I'm just kidding, Kristen. That's
493
00:21:02.339 --> 00:21:02.759
not what I meant.
494
00:21:02.779 --> 00:21:02.960
I'm sorry.
495
00:21:02.980 --> 00:21:05.539
You bet. If you're looking for an entrance into the group.
496
00:21:05.579 --> 00:21:07.599
An entrance into the group. Sorry. That was a wrong
497
00:21:07.619 --> 00:21:08.359
way to put it. A hole.
498
00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:09.349
Oh, God.
499
00:21:09.369 --> 00:21:12.240
I'm sorry. Sorry, Kristen. If you're looking for a way
500
00:21:12.269 --> 00:21:14.670
into the group at that time, Kristen was the most
501
00:21:14.750 --> 00:21:17.750
vulnerable one. Okay. So you would go through her, date her,
502
00:21:18.029 --> 00:21:19.849
sleep with her, do whatever you got to do because
503
00:21:19.869 --> 00:21:23.329
she was so vulnerable. And that's what he did.
504
00:21:23.630 --> 00:21:25.230
The car is beautiful.
505
00:21:25.609 --> 00:21:28.059
Where did you end up going for it? This exclusive
506
00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:30.519
place that Dad has connections with. They have more cars
507
00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:33.019
for more dealerships than, like, anywhere else. You have to
508
00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:35.559
put me in touch. What's it called? It's Dunaidial.
509
00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:37.140
Where?
510
00:21:38.579 --> 00:21:43.369
Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
511
00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:44.490
I got it on Dundial Cars.
512
00:21:44.750 --> 00:21:45.009
Lift?
513
00:21:45.490 --> 00:21:48.369
Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
514
00:21:49.009 --> 00:21:49.150
No.
515
00:21:50.170 --> 00:21:50.970
Dundial Cars.
516
00:21:51.089 --> 00:21:52.970
You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
517
00:21:53.710 --> 00:21:57.079
I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
518
00:21:57.140 --> 00:22:00.180
on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
519
00:22:00.220 --> 00:22:04.519
have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
520
00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:07.200
way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
521
00:22:07.259 --> 00:22:10.140
Life is one long lesson of chaos.
522
00:22:10.299 --> 00:22:12.779
I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
523
00:22:12.819 --> 00:22:15.039
filed against me. When your free will was about to
524
00:22:15.059 --> 00:22:17.440
be taken from you, what would you do if it
525
00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:18.160
was given back?
526
00:22:18.380 --> 00:22:21.279
Where did that need come from, where you thought that
527
00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:23.319
you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
528
00:22:23.660 --> 00:22:25.240
He said, I have a work dad. I need a
529
00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:27.619
home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he
530
00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:28.240
started crying.
531
00:22:28.619 --> 00:22:33.059
Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
532
00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:35.789
those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
533
00:22:35.829 --> 00:22:36.609
happens next.
534
00:22:37.009 --> 00:22:38.069
I decided to risk it all.
535
00:22:38.230 --> 00:22:42.109
I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara,
536
00:22:42.130 --> 00:22:43.170
I'm not going to pull punches.
537
00:22:43.390 --> 00:22:45.349
You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
538
00:22:45.569 --> 00:22:48.809
The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
539
00:22:48.970 --> 00:22:52.829
Only one question matters. What happens next?
540
00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.420
And I mean, I absolutely love James.
541
00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:04.420
Yeah, me too. I think him and I would get
542
00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:04.740
along real well.
543
00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:10.079
Personally, he's a sweetheart. Fucking hilarious. And the kind of
544
00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:13.119
funny where he doesn't know he's really being funny, but
545
00:23:13.140 --> 00:23:15.720
he just really is funny. So it's like, it's just
546
00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:19.019
so great. There's so many great James moments that have
547
00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:19.519
been caught.
548
00:23:19.539 --> 00:23:24.759
The age he is is fun. You're single. I'm sorry.
549
00:23:25.019 --> 00:23:26.799
You're single until you're married in my eyes. If you've
550
00:23:26.819 --> 00:23:29.970
got a girlfriend, to me, you're still single. So you're single,
551
00:23:30.029 --> 00:23:32.630
you got disposable income, you don't really care about what's
552
00:23:32.670 --> 00:23:34.650
going on. I've been there. We all know that I've
553
00:23:34.670 --> 00:23:35.950
been there and you kind of don't have a care
554
00:23:35.970 --> 00:23:38.079
in the world, which this kind of area that he's
555
00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:40.099
in right now can be dangerous because you get sucked
556
00:23:40.140 --> 00:23:41.319
in by the light. You get a little bit of
557
00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:44.019
a diva mentality, which happened to me a few times.
558
00:23:44.059 --> 00:23:46.380
I got myself in some trouble. So you have to
559
00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:48.619
be careful where you are right now, where he is, because,
560
00:23:49.180 --> 00:23:52.059
you know, it's a dangerous area to be in when
561
00:23:52.099 --> 00:23:54.700
like everyone's liking you. Things are going great because it
562
00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:56.819
just takes one little thing for you to fall. So
563
00:23:56.859 --> 00:23:58.700
I always tell him, just be careful everything you're doing.
564
00:23:58.980 --> 00:24:01.460
You're hilarious right now, but just tread lightly.
565
00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:03.660
Do you think that James thinks he's the number one
566
00:24:03.700 --> 00:24:04.269
guy in the group?
567
00:24:04.849 --> 00:24:09.210
I mean, I think it's a tie between him and Ariana. No.
568
00:24:09.269 --> 00:24:10.970
Like I said, I love James. I think he's hilarious.
569
00:24:11.029 --> 00:24:13.470
I think he's grown up a lot. I love watching him.
570
00:24:13.609 --> 00:24:15.089
In fact, I just got off the phone with him now.
571
00:24:15.630 --> 00:24:17.130
Him and I are doing a night together at SUR
572
00:24:17.170 --> 00:24:17.539
next week.
573
00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:18.160
Fun.
574
00:24:18.579 --> 00:24:20.220
So we're just having fun.
575
00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:21.220
What night is that?
576
00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:22.660
June.
577
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:23.440
Is it next week?
578
00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:23.700
No.
579
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:24.299
Are we in June yet?
580
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:24.579
No.
581
00:24:24.619 --> 00:24:25.400
June 13th. Okay.
582
00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:25.839
Cool. Yeah.
583
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:28.279
June 13th at SUR. We are having a- Okay, my
584
00:24:28.299 --> 00:24:29.480
birthday is June 14th.
585
00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:30.240
Should I come and.
586
00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:31.319
Do a pre-birthday? I think you should come. We're going
587
00:24:31.339 --> 00:24:32.400
to have a table. We're going to have fun.
588
00:24:32.420 --> 00:24:34.079
We're going to have the girls there. All right, I'm coming.
589
00:24:34.180 --> 00:24:37.420
I'm coming. Okay. I'm happy for James, though. He's doing
590
00:24:37.460 --> 00:24:39.619
real well. Yeah. He's been DJing and everything like that,
591
00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:41.279
and he just bought his first house.
592
00:24:41.619 --> 00:24:43.759
Yes, I saw the house. It looks really nice. When
593
00:24:43.779 --> 00:24:45.839
you heard they broke up, when you heard James and
594
00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:50.960
Raquel broke up, I mean, now there are- First.
595
00:24:50.700 --> 00:24:52.359
Of all, let's back up into the- Okay, let's back up.
596
00:24:54.059 --> 00:24:54.980
The proposal.
597
00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:55.500
Okay.
598
00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:58.940
Do you find that weird that Tom Sandoval paid for
599
00:24:58.980 --> 00:24:59.690
the proposal?
600
00:25:00.710 --> 00:25:02.670
I have thought that was so weird. I thought it
601
00:25:02.690 --> 00:25:02.970
was weird.
602
00:25:02.990 --> 00:25:04.849
Did he not check his finance? Like, who's his money person?
603
00:25:04.869 --> 00:25:06.789
Because now he has problems with the IRS. Maybe you
604
00:25:06.809 --> 00:25:08.609
should have checked in with that guy before you spent
605
00:25:08.609 --> 00:25:11.180
10 grand on planning somebody else's... I thought it was 20.
606
00:25:11.180 --> 00:25:13.240
Was it 20 grand? Okay. I don't know. Okay.
607
00:25:13.259 --> 00:25:13.380
But.
608
00:25:13.539 --> 00:25:15.200
Okay. So I... Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Back up.
609
00:25:15.259 --> 00:25:19.430
So you're paying... $ 20, 000 for somebody else's proposal with a
610
00:25:19.450 --> 00:25:21.269
girl that you're going to initially, well, you could have
611
00:25:21.289 --> 00:25:23.130
probably were already hooking up with. Let's be honest. He
612
00:25:23.150 --> 00:25:23.589
could have been.
613
00:25:23.609 --> 00:25:25.589
So what is your thoughts on that? Because we know
614
00:25:26.410 --> 00:25:29.210
they have fessed up to seven months, but there's a
615
00:25:29.390 --> 00:25:34.880
lot of, you know, Bravo detectives that have reason and
616
00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:39.420
strong theories to thinking it was before that. People thinking
617
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:43.259
was this part of planning the proposal that he wanted
618
00:25:43.339 --> 00:25:46.460
to show her that he was the better guy in
619
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:49.089
a weird way? Or was it him just wanting to
620
00:25:49.150 --> 00:25:51.529
show the world that he had the money? And because
621
00:25:51.569 --> 00:25:54.710
he's not good with money, he's thinking 20 grand at
622
00:25:54.769 --> 00:25:57.109
that time. Like when it's rolling.
623
00:25:57.549 --> 00:26:00.329
What Tom does, this is Tom's thing, his MO. He
624
00:26:00.369 --> 00:26:02.759
does things to look good on TV. He did it
625
00:26:02.779 --> 00:26:05.000
for me. Oh, here's this and here's that. And then like,
626
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:06.140
if you do something wrong, he's like, look at all
627
00:26:06.180 --> 00:26:08.460
the things that Tom's done for you. He uses this
628
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:11.140
as a decoy. Like this is his MO. He does
629
00:26:11.180 --> 00:26:13.420
things for other people. So he looks good in front
630
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.400
of other people, but he's not really a good person.
631
00:26:15.420 --> 00:26:17.539
Like that's, that's not how it works. And I've called
632
00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:19.259
this out and people were just like, no, he's, he's
633
00:26:19.299 --> 00:26:21.500
a good guy. Jackson, you're just being this, just being that.
634
00:26:21.539 --> 00:26:23.660
I'm like, no, like for instance, he gave me this,
635
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.200
it's pretty, that sword with the signature of Randy Jackson's. It's,
636
00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:31.220
it's a kind of a, we love the movie Step Brothers.
637
00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:31.900
Okay.
638
00:26:31.940 --> 00:26:34.089
They did this exact same thing. They had a samurai
639
00:26:34.109 --> 00:26:36.309
sword where they got Randy Jackson. It's, we love Step
640
00:26:36.329 --> 00:26:38.009
Brothers and Will Ferrell. And it's kind of a running
641
00:26:38.049 --> 00:26:39.769
joke between me, Tom and Tom. It's kind of an
642
00:26:39.809 --> 00:26:41.920
inside joke that people don't know. Anyway, the fact that
643
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:44.619
he got a samurai sword signed by Randy Jackson, my
644
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:47.750
favorite movie, Step Brothers, it was great. But I had
645
00:26:47.769 --> 00:26:49.549
to return it. I know where this is going.
646
00:26:49.609 --> 00:26:50.970
Wait, why do you have to return it?
647
00:26:50.970 --> 00:26:52.950
I just didn't want anything from that guy. He uses
648
00:26:52.970 --> 00:26:53.549
things against you.
649
00:26:53.569 --> 00:26:54.529
You returned it to him.
650
00:26:54.630 --> 00:26:55.609
I put it on his patio.
651
00:26:55.990 --> 00:26:58.450
So that was like the Lisa Renner with the bunny.
652
00:26:58.710 --> 00:27:01.440
Yeah, I don't want anything from you. Because you use
653
00:27:01.460 --> 00:27:05.140
it against me later down the line. It's just nothing
654
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:06.660
from him is sincere.
655
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:12.490
Okay, because when that happened, after the reunion- I was
656
00:27:12.690 --> 00:27:15.839
at Lala's, who now looks next door to Sheena in
657
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:16.359
Palm Springs.
658
00:27:16.539 --> 00:27:16.720
Right.
659
00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.119
And I asked about that. I go, well, what was
660
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.140
that about? Were they already hooking up? Why would he
661
00:27:22.180 --> 00:27:24.539
pay that money? Or is he just really done with money?
662
00:27:24.859 --> 00:27:28.460
And he thinks $ 20, 000 was flowing at the time. I'll
663
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:32.839
always be able to make $ 20, 000. Like, what was it?
664
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:34.140
I think it's a little bit of all that.
665
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:36.059
I think it's a little... I think all of it.
666
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:39.279
And also, both Sheena and Lala said he.
667
00:27:40.910 --> 00:27:43.250
Was that person that did all, that was the first
668
00:27:43.289 --> 00:27:45.329
to call you. If someone died in your family, he
669
00:27:45.369 --> 00:27:48.730
was like, always like the really nice person to the group,
670
00:27:48.750 --> 00:27:50.769
you know, very showy for the camera.
671
00:27:50.789 --> 00:27:53.609
But he's not doing it because, wow, he's a good person.
672
00:27:53.670 --> 00:27:55.519
He's doing it. So he looks good in front of
673
00:27:55.579 --> 00:27:56.119
everybody else.
674
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.160
And I know it's hard to understand.
675
00:27:58.200 --> 00:27:59.779
And people will be like, Jack, you're reading into this.
676
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.019
I've never been wrong on this show. Never, never, never, never.
677
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:05.539
So I know, and I know this guy, like the
678
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:08.059
back of my hand, I've known him for 20 years. It's,
679
00:28:08.420 --> 00:28:11.390
it's a game. It's a show. It's, It's a facade.
680
00:28:11.430 --> 00:28:12.220
It's not real.
681
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.759
So then after 20 years of it and the sword
682
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.960
and the wedding, what was that like aha moment where
683
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.640
you're like, I see him for who he is and
684
00:28:21.660 --> 00:28:24.079
I'm just, I'm going to put my foot down.
685
00:28:24.099 --> 00:28:28.269
I just, I think, you know, leaving the show was
686
00:28:28.329 --> 00:28:30.509
kind of my, I didn't want to be part of
687
00:28:30.529 --> 00:28:32.099
the same because I knew what he was doing. Like I,
688
00:28:32.509 --> 00:28:34.750
he would get away with everything. He's literally been getting
689
00:28:34.789 --> 00:28:37.390
away with this for years. This is, this isn't, Raquel
690
00:28:37.410 --> 00:28:40.130
is not the first girl. She certainly won't be the last.
691
00:28:40.490 --> 00:28:41.049
That's just.
692
00:28:41.470 --> 00:28:42.950
So you believe there were many.
693
00:28:42.970 --> 00:28:45.069
Yeah, I was part of it during the Miami situation.
694
00:28:45.109 --> 00:28:45.509
I was there.
695
00:28:45.529 --> 00:28:47.079
What is the Miami situation?
696
00:28:47.130 --> 00:28:48.759
Explain to everybody.
697
00:28:48.500 --> 00:28:50.720
What the Miami girl is, because that has been brought
698
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:52.059
up a lot in the last month.
699
00:28:52.460 --> 00:28:54.420
I think her name, in fact, her name is Anna Marie.
700
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:58.119
That's her real name. So about season one or two,
701
00:28:58.380 --> 00:29:01.210
and it was literally a week after Tom and Ariana
702
00:29:01.529 --> 00:29:02.150
started dating.
703
00:29:02.609 --> 00:29:02.930
Okay.
704
00:29:03.009 --> 00:29:06.910
We did an appearance in Miami. We had some girls
705
00:29:06.950 --> 00:29:11.150
in our room. Fact. There was, that girl was in
706
00:29:11.349 --> 00:29:14.970
our room. Fact. She was in the room next to mine. Fact.
707
00:29:15.089 --> 00:29:18.569
They hooked up. Fact. I don't, and that was literally
708
00:29:18.589 --> 00:29:21.730
a week after they started dating. That's 100% true. I
709
00:29:21.990 --> 00:29:25.670
was there. I was literally 10 feet away. I could,
710
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:28.660
it's a hotel room. I can hear what's going on.
711
00:29:29.700 --> 00:29:31.440
And so now he's dating Ariana.
712
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:34.440
Yeah. Mind you, this is a week after they started dating.
713
00:29:34.460 --> 00:29:35.839
And Kristen and he had broken up.
714
00:29:36.660 --> 00:29:36.859
Yeah.
715
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.650
But there was a, there was a, Thank you. Ariana
716
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:45.619
kiss at the Golden Nugget Hotel pool with the shark tank.
717
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:45.920
Right, right.
718
00:29:46.180 --> 00:29:46.980
And the slide.
719
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.019
Yeah. So it all overlaps. Yes.
720
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.589
So- And that was, but they still went back and dated.
721
00:29:52.670 --> 00:29:55.170
He still dated Kristen after that, just like make out.
722
00:29:55.569 --> 00:29:58.259
Then they break up and he starts dating Ariana for good.
723
00:29:58.779 --> 00:30:02.640
And then this Miami girl comes about. How did the Miami,
724
00:30:02.660 --> 00:30:05.839
did the Miami girl DM Kristen? How did the girls
725
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:06.960
find out about Miami girl?
726
00:30:06.980 --> 00:30:10.410
Well, you know, Kristen, she's MacGyver. She can figure out anything. Okay.
727
00:30:10.430 --> 00:30:14.470
So I can't remember exactly how she got wind of it.
728
00:30:14.730 --> 00:30:16.750
I don't really remember because I didn't say anything at
729
00:30:16.769 --> 00:30:18.819
that time. I knew about it, but I didn't say anything.
730
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.259
I don't remember how she got wind of it. I
731
00:30:21.339 --> 00:30:23.549
think maybe we met the girls at the pool in
732
00:30:23.569 --> 00:30:26.009
the lobby of the hotel. And then they came back
733
00:30:26.049 --> 00:30:29.130
up to our room afterwards. And I think maybe the
734
00:30:29.170 --> 00:30:31.250
girl maybe just was like, ooh, they're reality stars. He
735
00:30:31.269 --> 00:30:32.769
was out dating somebody. Maybe I can get them in
736
00:30:32.809 --> 00:30:34.650
trouble or maybe I should DM. I think maybe she
737
00:30:34.670 --> 00:30:36.190
just got involved somehow. I don't know. I don't want
738
00:30:36.210 --> 00:30:38.470
to say, but this is what I think. So that's
739
00:30:38.509 --> 00:30:41.150
kind of like how that happened. Then she flew out here, right?
740
00:30:41.500 --> 00:30:43.349
So she flew out here. Kristen was like, you know,
741
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:45.240
this is how Kristen is, right? She's excited about it.
742
00:30:45.250 --> 00:30:45.880
She does do this too.
743
00:30:46.069 --> 00:30:50.130
She does, right? And then Tom, this girl, Kristen, I think,
744
00:30:50.690 --> 00:30:52.630
flew her out or she flew, I don't know how
745
00:30:52.670 --> 00:30:54.990
she got there. Ended up at Sir. Ariana and Tom
746
00:30:55.029 --> 00:30:57.980
are behind the bar. Tom's eyes get this big. Bolts
747
00:30:58.059 --> 00:31:00.480
out of the restaurant. Runs home like a little girl.
748
00:31:01.460 --> 00:31:03.359
Runs home. Now, he's done this before. When you approach
749
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:05.059
him on things like this, he bails. He can't just
750
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.569
own up to it. So that's what happened.
751
00:31:09.289 --> 00:31:10.369
And then Ariana dies.
752
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:12.549
I think Ariana was just kind of like, I'm not
753
00:31:12.569 --> 00:31:14.089
going to listen to any of this. People are just
754
00:31:14.109 --> 00:31:15.890
trying to like, kind of like, I feel bad. It's
755
00:31:15.930 --> 00:31:17.450
the same thing. I've been this season. She kind of
756
00:31:17.490 --> 00:31:19.630
didn't want to hear it. Like, she's like, you know,
757
00:31:19.710 --> 00:31:21.230
Tom is the type of person that does have a
758
00:31:21.250 --> 00:31:23.109
lot of friends and some of them are girls and
759
00:31:23.170 --> 00:31:25.859
I trust him. And she's really, I guess, had no
760
00:31:25.900 --> 00:31:28.700
reason not to trust him because he's hit it very
761
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:31.859
well for very long. for so long that she really
762
00:31:31.900 --> 00:31:32.829
didn't have a reason.
763
00:31:33.009 --> 00:31:34.930
In your opinion, during their nine years of being in
764
00:31:34.950 --> 00:31:38.089
a committed relationship, owning a house together, doing a cocktail
765
00:31:38.109 --> 00:31:38.670
book together.
766
00:31:38.910 --> 00:31:40.289
All of it. Which is 100% should have never happened,
767
00:31:40.309 --> 00:31:40.890
in my opinion.
768
00:31:41.650 --> 00:31:45.130
What did you think when you heard they were married? Yeah, well,
769
00:31:45.170 --> 00:31:46.900
you might as well be married. I mean, it'd be
770
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.799
easier to be married and rent than to be not
771
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.059
married and own a home together, in my opinion, as
772
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:54.240
far as cutting the profits and all of that.
773
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:57.180
Well, now, for the exact reason of what they're going
774
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.200
through right now, You know, poor Ariana, okay, has to
775
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:03.079
deal with all Tom's tax issues, liens against his house,
776
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.119
IRS owing this. Like, now she has to deal with
777
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.759
that because she was connected to him. So now all
778
00:32:08.779 --> 00:32:10.359
of his crap that he's gone through, and this is
779
00:32:10.380 --> 00:32:12.880
the exact reason you do not buy a house with somebody.
780
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.559
But she didn't know. She was looking at Tom like, okay,
781
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.119
he's going to take care of me, this is that.
782
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:19.900
And little does she know, he was borrowing against the
783
00:32:19.940 --> 00:32:21.920
house to pay for the restaurant that he's got going
784
00:32:21.980 --> 00:32:24.269
on that's about to go under as well. So, I mean,
785
00:32:25.069 --> 00:32:26.630
I would just feel so bad for her. But you
786
00:32:26.650 --> 00:32:28.779
know what? I love that she's like, doing so well
787
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.440
right now and she's killing it and I'm just so
788
00:32:30.500 --> 00:32:32.500
happy for it and she seems so happy with this
789
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:34.480
new guy who I want to be friends with. He
790
00:32:34.500 --> 00:32:38.690
seems like a really cool guy. I mean, yes. But
791
00:32:38.710 --> 00:32:41.170
I just, getting back to the story about that, I just,
792
00:32:41.569 --> 00:32:44.430
this is why I personally, and this is my opinion, like,
793
00:32:44.509 --> 00:32:47.230
you shouldn't play house because this is what can happen.
794
00:32:47.829 --> 00:32:48.529
This is what can happen.
795
00:32:48.549 --> 00:32:51.450
Well, I do think as a viewer, it seemed like
796
00:32:51.490 --> 00:32:57.220
a major commitment move for a girl who, throughout the show,
797
00:32:57.819 --> 00:32:59.619
Would say, I don't want to have kids.
798
00:32:59.779 --> 00:32:59.980
Right.
799
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.460
And I don't want to get married.
800
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:01.859
Okay.
801
00:33:02.019 --> 00:33:03.680
She said it over and over again. And so then
802
00:33:03.700 --> 00:33:03.880
I'm like.
803
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.180
In her defense though, she said this over and over.
804
00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:06.420
Right.
805
00:33:06.460 --> 00:33:09.180
So if Tom didn't like that, he should have left
806
00:33:09.220 --> 00:33:12.079
a long time ago. She made it very clear she
807
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:14.319
didn't want A, B, and C. She wasn't like, well,
808
00:33:14.339 --> 00:33:17.059
it was a hidden thing and mixed signals. She made
809
00:33:17.099 --> 00:33:19.309
it very clear this is the way she, where she stood.
810
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.490
And then the fact that she, after nine years of
811
00:33:22.589 --> 00:33:24.549
going against what she wanted and said, you know what?
812
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:27.079
I love this man, Tom. I'm going to try to
813
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:29.680
freeze my eggs. And when I saw that, I was like,
814
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:31.720
oh my God, Tom, you are cheating on her. And
815
00:33:31.809 --> 00:33:34.549
she's literally took a decade of her beliefs and said,
816
00:33:34.569 --> 00:33:37.690
you know what? For Tom's sake and because I love
817
00:33:37.710 --> 00:33:40.210
this man, I'm going to freeze my eggs. Even though
818
00:33:40.269 --> 00:33:41.990
it's something I don't want to do, I'm going to
819
00:33:42.069 --> 00:33:44.359
do this for the man that I love. In the
820
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.059
back of my head, I'm like, you're wasting all, you
821
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.160
went to the doctor's office with Schwartz, doing all that stuff,
822
00:33:50.299 --> 00:33:52.240
knowing in the back of your mind that you're cheating,
823
00:33:52.299 --> 00:33:54.799
that you're probably not, like you're wasting all these people's time.
824
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:57.690
With people that really do want to have children, like
825
00:33:57.710 --> 00:33:59.769
this guy, this doctor's office, it's hard to get in there.
826
00:33:59.809 --> 00:34:01.869
It's not like, you know, whatever. It's hard to get
827
00:34:01.890 --> 00:34:05.410
into these fertility clinics. I know women that are, they
828
00:34:05.470 --> 00:34:07.289
cry every day. They can't have kids and they're trying
829
00:34:07.309 --> 00:34:08.639
to get in and they can't afford it. They got
830
00:34:08.659 --> 00:34:11.880
to raise enough money. And you're just walking in here, la-di-da-di-da.
831
00:34:11.900 --> 00:34:13.780
It's a TV show. I'm going to pretend to have,
832
00:34:13.900 --> 00:34:16.340
freeze my stuff. Like that is so effed up.
833
00:34:16.539 --> 00:34:19.000
And what did, do you have any knowledge of what
834
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.570
did happen? They never did make the embryos, right?
835
00:34:23.070 --> 00:34:24.710
I don't know. I don't know.
836
00:34:24.730 --> 00:34:25.750
Let's hope they didn't.
837
00:34:25.849 --> 00:34:26.510
I should ask her that.
838
00:34:26.769 --> 00:34:27.210
I mean, let's hope.
839
00:34:27.230 --> 00:34:28.150
I just talked to her the other day.
840
00:34:28.210 --> 00:34:30.050
I should ask her. Let's hope they didn't.
841
00:34:30.219 --> 00:34:31.900
I hope not. For Ariana's sake. Because like I said.
842
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.820
Because now you have viable embryos, but it's with a
843
00:34:35.179 --> 00:34:36.719
person you don't want to deal with. Like, I mean,
844
00:34:37.099 --> 00:34:39.139
do you remember the Sofia Vergara case? That was a
845
00:34:39.179 --> 00:34:41.519
fucking nightmare. She made embryos with her ex.
846
00:34:41.619 --> 00:34:41.760
Right.
847
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:46.070
And then they had a contract where if either one
848
00:34:46.090 --> 00:34:49.369
of us decide not to go forward, then they don't
849
00:34:49.409 --> 00:34:52.719
get made. She gets married to the hot guy. What's
850
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.699
his name? Mangia, Nella, whatever his name. They don't want
851
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:57.980
to have kids. They're like late 40s. They're done. She
852
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.400
already has a son from when she was 19. That
853
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.559
guy went to court everything trying to say, I want
854
00:35:04.579 --> 00:35:06.769
to raise those embryos so that he could hit her
855
00:35:06.809 --> 00:35:09.750
with child support. And then she has two children out there.
856
00:35:09.789 --> 00:35:13.110
I mean, it was a big nightmare. So it's like
857
00:35:13.170 --> 00:35:16.380
you have to be really careful about. Whether you're going
858
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.679
to have a child like by yourself with a donor
859
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.320
or somewhere where you like have complete control of it.
860
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.260
Like look at, you know, Lala's awful situation, you know,
861
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.659
or you're married and you're down and this is like,
862
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:31.280
you know, but doing this, can you imagine if they
863
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:33.449
did go the next step and then she found out
864
00:35:33.489 --> 00:35:36.489
about it or, or even went further and she was
865
00:35:36.590 --> 00:35:37.690
carrying the baby.
866
00:35:37.949 --> 00:35:40.210
Like, and just like, and like I said, taking a
867
00:35:40.230 --> 00:35:42.050
step further as a woman.
868
00:35:42.070 --> 00:35:42.650
Okay.
869
00:35:43.170 --> 00:35:45.929
You are set into your ways, right? This is who
870
00:35:45.969 --> 00:35:50.429
you are. And then you show a tiny bit of vulnerability, right?
871
00:35:50.550 --> 00:35:52.139
By saying, you know what? I love this man. I'm
872
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.699
going to do this. Then this happens. How does she
873
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:57.840
ever trust again? How do you go through? I'm looking
874
00:35:57.860 --> 00:35:59.760
at from my point of view. She's a very strong girl.
875
00:35:59.780 --> 00:36:01.880
She can probably do it. But as of like, as
876
00:36:02.820 --> 00:36:05.099
I'm looking at from in her shoes, like she took
877
00:36:05.219 --> 00:36:08.230
all this time and finally said, okay, I'll do this
878
00:36:08.269 --> 00:36:10.510
for him. And then gets let down like this. And
879
00:36:10.550 --> 00:36:13.519
then How do you go back out there and be like,
880
00:36:13.539 --> 00:36:16.280
I have to trust again. I have to, you know.
881
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.599
So getting back to what you were hinting at.
882
00:36:19.619 --> 00:36:20.440
I have a hard time with that.
883
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.659
In your opinion, your opinion, you think, and we see
884
00:36:23.699 --> 00:36:29.000
hints from the reunion, you think that there were several
885
00:36:29.739 --> 00:36:36.280
random indiscretions on Tom Sandoval's part throughout the nine years.
886
00:36:36.889 --> 00:36:41.010
Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. I do believe that. I do.
887
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:44.239
I mean, I mean, I believe it too. I mean,
888
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.199
I'm sure it's very easy. A lot of girls are
889
00:36:47.219 --> 00:36:49.260
very happy to hook up with someone and have no
890
00:36:49.300 --> 00:36:51.800
strings attached, especially when it's like a good looking guy
891
00:36:51.820 --> 00:36:53.139
that they watch on the show.
892
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:56.019
Tom is very like, he comes home four o'clock in
893
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:58.280
the morning, every, you know, every night, the guy can't
894
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.940
just sit home and watch a movie. Like I'm a homebody.
895
00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:03.000
I don't like leaving my house. I like to sit
896
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:04.820
home and watch TV with my wife. We have movie nights.
897
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:06.900
Like he can't do that. Like he can't just sit
898
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:08.699
at home and watch a movie. He has to be out.
899
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:10.840
He has to be drinking. He has to come home
900
00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:12.659
at three or four in the morning. And mind you,
901
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:15.079
as Ariana, right, she's sitting there. She's a homebody. She's like,
902
00:37:15.460 --> 00:37:16.880
you know, me and Brittany. She likes to stay home
903
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.440
and watch movies. So, mind you, she's getting Tom when
904
00:37:19.659 --> 00:37:21.559
he comes home at 4 or 5 at night, drunk
905
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.599
as can be. That has to be miserable for her
906
00:37:23.659 --> 00:37:24.019
every night.
907
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:24.800
You know?
908
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.780
He's like, well, I have this time. I do come home.
909
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:28.179
She's like, yeah, you come home at 4 or 5
910
00:37:28.179 --> 00:37:30.059
in the morning and you're a hot mess, stinking like
911
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.480
cigarettes and beer. Like, who wants that?
912
00:37:32.500 --> 00:37:34.920
When he starts to, like, switch around, people were dying
913
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.400
that he was saying, oh, I run the house. And she.
914
00:37:38.909 --> 00:37:40.949
I make sure there's batteries and pens in the drawers
915
00:37:41.010 --> 00:37:43.429
and she doesn't check on the toilet paper or whatever.
916
00:37:44.170 --> 00:37:47.610
That's the stuff you argue about when you're a child.
917
00:37:47.670 --> 00:37:49.030
It's so ridiculous.
918
00:37:49.389 --> 00:37:51.289
No, the best part is I'm working on our love.
919
00:37:51.389 --> 00:37:54.489
I go out and get her lattes. I was like,
920
00:37:54.550 --> 00:37:57.090
are you fucking kidding me? I work on our love.
921
00:37:57.130 --> 00:37:59.809
I go get lattes every morning. Like, oh my God.
922
00:37:59.829 --> 00:38:01.489
You do have a pretty good impression of him.
923
00:38:01.550 --> 00:38:06.110
He's just so like, because he's so dramatic. He's so dramatic.
924
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:06.530
Yeah, you do.
925
00:38:07.420 --> 00:38:09.579
Ariana, you don't know. You don't know what I've been
926
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.420
going through. You don't know. Like, it's just like, dude,
927
00:38:11.460 --> 00:38:14.099
enough with the act. You're a grown man. Like, you're
928
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.340
a grown man at this point. Well, you're supposed to
929
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:17.860
be a grown man that, you know, you own a
930
00:38:17.909 --> 00:38:21.329
home together, you're this, and you're playing this, like, you're acting.
931
00:38:21.429 --> 00:38:24.110
And then also, she goes something like, he goes, she goes, well,
932
00:38:24.469 --> 00:38:26.550
will you watch Blind Date or Love Island or whatever?
933
00:38:26.570 --> 00:38:29.030
And he goes, no, that's your thing with, you know,
934
00:38:29.050 --> 00:38:31.289
you do that with other people. She's like, with Logan?
935
00:38:31.309 --> 00:38:33.730
Aren't they talking about Logan, the gay friend?
936
00:38:33.869 --> 00:38:34.730
Yeah, that's her best friend.
937
00:38:34.789 --> 00:38:37.309
I love Logan. Yeah. And I'm like, So now you're
938
00:38:37.329 --> 00:38:39.150
going to try to give her shit that she's giving
939
00:38:39.190 --> 00:38:41.690
too much attention to her platonic gay friend.
940
00:38:41.530 --> 00:38:44.269
Over you while you're fucking her other best friend. Yeah.
941
00:38:44.369 --> 00:38:47.070
Like she's not fucking Logan. Yeah. Like I was just like,
942
00:38:47.090 --> 00:38:48.079
Oh God.
943
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:51.199
I mean, and honestly, that's like, that's relationship killer. One-on-one
944
00:38:51.420 --> 00:38:55.739
owning a bar and being in a band. Like, uh, I,
945
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:58.260
I mean, I don't, have you ever met or heard
946
00:38:58.300 --> 00:39:00.639
of anybody in your entire life being faithful who owns
947
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:02.210
a bar or in a band in your life?
948
00:39:02.289 --> 00:39:03.010
And he does both.
949
00:39:03.210 --> 00:39:06.780
And does both. I mean, they're both, it's a, D-list
950
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.619
band and a D-list bar, but still, either way, it's still,
951
00:39:09.980 --> 00:39:11.300
I feel bad for Schwartz, by the way, I shouldn't
952
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:11.489
say that.
953
00:39:11.510 --> 00:39:14.469
And how do you feel about Schwartz and their codependent
954
00:39:14.849 --> 00:39:15.670
weird relationship?
955
00:39:15.690 --> 00:39:17.769
It's so not fair what he's doing to Schwartz. You
956
00:39:17.809 --> 00:39:19.630
know what? The right thing would have been to do,
957
00:39:19.750 --> 00:39:21.710
everybody knows the right thing, Tom should have said, hey, listen,
958
00:39:22.309 --> 00:39:23.550
and this is not the right thing to do.
959
00:39:23.670 --> 00:39:25.590
Use your last names, otherwise it's too confusing.
960
00:39:25.610 --> 00:39:28.809
Sorry. Schwartz should have said, hey, listen, you told me this,
961
00:39:29.050 --> 00:39:30.699
say it was Monday. Yeah. going to give you till
962
00:39:30.739 --> 00:39:33.780
Wednesday and I'm going to say something because not only
963
00:39:33.820 --> 00:39:36.219
is this going to affect, you know, our friendship, but
964
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:39.239
this is going to affect our business, our finances, like
965
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:41.940
everything is going to, that's what should have happened. But
966
00:39:41.980 --> 00:39:46.039
then again, Tom's not his father. He's like, he put
967
00:39:46.059 --> 00:39:47.579
him between a rock and a hard place. Like, what
968
00:39:47.619 --> 00:39:49.800
is he supposed to do? He's friends with Ariana. He's
969
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.139
friends with Sandoval. What is he supposed to do? Yeah,
970
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:54.769
he should have came clean, but then it's like, I
971
00:39:55.429 --> 00:39:57.530
have a business to run. I got a million dollars
972
00:39:57.570 --> 00:39:59.650
tied up in this. Is it going to affect this?
973
00:39:59.670 --> 00:40:02.969
And Schwartz is already dealing with enough. He's got three
974
00:40:03.030 --> 00:40:06.309
brothers that are struggling with alcoholism. He's got his dad
975
00:40:06.329 --> 00:40:08.449
that's in and out of the hospital. Yeah. He's got
976
00:40:08.489 --> 00:40:10.679
his dad that's in and out of the hospital. He's
977
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.280
got his mother that lives in South Carolina with his
978
00:40:14.300 --> 00:40:17.340
other families in Florida. The guy's dealing with enough already.
979
00:40:17.699 --> 00:40:19.159
He's like, I don't know how he hasn't had like
980
00:40:19.179 --> 00:40:21.739
a a stroke or a heart attack because he's dealing
981
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.480
with that. And then he comes back to LA finding
982
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:27.940
out that Sandoval is cheating on Ariana. It's going to
983
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.519
possibly affect his business that Tom Schwartz just put his
984
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:31.300
life savings in.
985
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:34.179
When do you think Schwartz found out in your opinion?
986
00:40:34.550 --> 00:40:37.070
I think he's known for a couple months and I
987
00:40:37.110 --> 00:40:38.329
talked to him about it all the time. He's like,
988
00:40:38.389 --> 00:40:39.670
I've known, I'm like, I don't, I'm not going to
989
00:40:39.690 --> 00:40:40.909
ask you when you knew. It was like, this is,
990
00:40:41.050 --> 00:40:43.289
I feel like, well, he's like, I've known for a while.
991
00:40:43.949 --> 00:40:47.099
And he's like episode that we saw. which was that
992
00:40:47.179 --> 00:40:49.510
they had the tasting first and then they went back
993
00:40:49.530 --> 00:40:54.630
for Lisa's birthday. Right. That was like September, right? That's
994
00:40:54.670 --> 00:40:55.929
before BravoCon.
995
00:40:56.070 --> 00:40:56.289
Yeah.
996
00:40:56.570 --> 00:40:59.840
Now there is, people said the reason they didn't go
997
00:40:59.860 --> 00:41:02.460
to the tasting is they found a photo. I saw
998
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:05.480
someone pull up a photo of, cause it was the
999
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.599
same outfits of them and they're like weird, dumb and
1000
00:41:07.619 --> 00:41:10.579
dumber outfits kind of. And he was with Joe and,
1001
00:41:11.110 --> 00:41:12.389
Who he dates now, right?
1002
00:41:12.429 --> 00:41:13.190
No, he's not dating her.
1003
00:41:13.329 --> 00:41:15.269
Okay, well, he was dating her for a minute, right?
1004
00:41:15.289 --> 00:41:16.769
Yeah, that's a whole other story. She showed up the
1005
00:41:16.789 --> 00:41:18.349
other night and we're like, what is she doing here?
1006
00:41:19.250 --> 00:41:21.030
Joe was a friend of Kristen's too.
1007
00:41:21.050 --> 00:41:22.590
Yeah, she's weird. She is weird.
1008
00:41:22.630 --> 00:41:23.590
And then became his roommate.
1009
00:41:23.610 --> 00:41:26.380
She's like Kristen on crack. That's what she is. That's
1010
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:31.739
what I call her. You're Kristen 2.0. Circa 2010. Yeah.
1011
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:36.880
And she had written Katie like a really nice note
1012
00:41:37.099 --> 00:41:41.610
after that Katie and Schwartz broke up. And Katie shared
1013
00:41:41.650 --> 00:41:43.650
it somewhere on her stories or whatever, being like, I'm
1014
00:41:43.889 --> 00:41:46.590
for you, I'm on your side, whatever. Then Joe moves
1015
00:41:46.869 --> 00:41:49.550
in to the other bedroom of the two-bedroom.
1016
00:41:49.150 --> 00:41:50.969
Apartment with Tom Ford. Right, because Tom can't be alone.
1017
00:41:50.989 --> 00:41:51.170
Right.
1018
00:41:51.389 --> 00:41:54.289
And then it appears that they, I guess, dated for
1019
00:41:54.329 --> 00:41:59.630
a minute. But it was Joe Schwartz, Sandoval, and Raquel
1020
00:41:59.789 --> 00:42:03.730
all went to this other guy's event before going to Sur,
1021
00:42:03.849 --> 00:42:05.889
and that's why they didn't go to the tasting. So
1022
00:42:05.929 --> 00:42:07.880
people are like, they were on a double date. There
1023
00:42:07.889 --> 00:42:08.409
was also.
1024
00:42:08.849 --> 00:42:10.309
They went on a ski trip together.
1025
00:42:10.329 --> 00:42:11.710
Not Bakersfield.
1026
00:42:12.230 --> 00:42:13.030
Big Bear. Big Bear.
1027
00:42:13.269 --> 00:42:16.829
They went to Big Bear. So that's more than a
1028
00:42:16.849 --> 00:42:21.110
few months ago, Jax. That's like always. So did Schwartz
1029
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:22.110
know in September?
1030
00:42:22.590 --> 00:42:24.480
I think he's known a lot longer than he's saying.
1031
00:42:25.019 --> 00:42:26.019
I don't know the exact dates.
1032
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:27.280
September was a really long time ago.
1033
00:42:27.300 --> 00:42:30.460
I think he's known a lot longer than he's saying.
1034
00:42:30.539 --> 00:42:32.460
But that whole trip to Big Bear, being out in
1035
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:34.780
the public like that, holding hands with another girl when
1036
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.059
you're with her. People were going to see you. I
1037
00:42:37.099 --> 00:42:38.820
guess they got called out and they scammed out and
1038
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:41.000
ran out of some restaurants when people called them out. Yeah.
1039
00:42:41.579 --> 00:42:43.300
I mean, what are you doing? And the fact that
1040
00:42:43.340 --> 00:42:46.059
Schwartz went along with this was kind of weird to me.
1041
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.199
I'm like, dude, you're allowing this to happen. You're kind
1042
00:42:48.219 --> 00:42:48.610
of enabling it.
1043
00:42:48.610 --> 00:42:51.889
Well, you know when that great scene where they were
1044
00:42:52.150 --> 00:42:54.349
in drag, did you get in drag too for that event?
1045
00:42:54.869 --> 00:42:55.769
Don't get me started on that.
1046
00:42:56.070 --> 00:42:57.869
I will get you started on it. Who the fuck
1047
00:42:57.889 --> 00:42:58.170
idea was that?
1048
00:42:58.190 --> 00:43:00.289
I don't know why I allowed that. Who do you
1049
00:43:00.329 --> 00:43:02.969
think's idea? Whose idea is it for all this crazy
1050
00:43:03.010 --> 00:43:06.760
shit that we do? Yes. He's the only one that
1051
00:43:06.820 --> 00:43:10.300
ever wants to do the drag thing. And I'm like, gee,
1052
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:12.599
I'm like, why, why, why do we always have to
1053
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:14.389
dress up every, no matter what we do, we go
1054
00:43:14.409 --> 00:43:16.159
get ice cream. Let's dress up and drag. Like we
1055
00:43:16.179 --> 00:43:18.550
don't need to dress up and drag. We're going to
1056
00:43:18.590 --> 00:43:21.690
get ice cream. Like, you know, we're going to blockbuster.
1057
00:43:21.710 --> 00:43:23.489
You want to dress up and drag? No, we're going
1058
00:43:23.510 --> 00:43:26.050
to get a video. Like it's always the drag thing
1059
00:43:26.090 --> 00:43:26.750
with him, which I.
1060
00:43:27.090 --> 00:43:28.650
How long is the drag thing going on?
1061
00:43:28.909 --> 00:43:32.429
Going on for a very, very long time before the show.
1062
00:43:32.449 --> 00:43:36.300
Now, one of the, There are other questions.
1063
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:37.940
Yeah, I'm not getting into that. I know where you're
1064
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:41.760
going with this. I mean... I'm not going to say
1065
00:43:41.780 --> 00:43:43.429
it because I don't know and it's to each his own.
1066
00:43:43.809 --> 00:43:48.809
So, whatever his sexual fluidity might be. Could be a
1067
00:43:48.869 --> 00:43:51.329
little more fluid than we know. Let's just say that.
1068
00:43:51.469 --> 00:43:52.289
Yeah. Yeah.
1069
00:43:52.329 --> 00:43:52.590
Okay.
1070
00:43:53.070 --> 00:43:53.320
So.
1071
00:43:54.190 --> 00:43:56.429
You guys have to get in drag. And that was for,
1072
00:43:56.510 --> 00:43:58.769
was that Schwartz's bachelorette party? What was that for?
1073
00:43:58.820 --> 00:44:02.139
Which one? My bachelorette party? You know, his bachelorette party?
1074
00:44:02.219 --> 00:44:03.880
No, the one where they're, where he's.
1075
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:05.260
It was a random Sunday.
1076
00:44:05.420 --> 00:44:08.760
The one where Scandival is half drag, like the wig
1077
00:44:08.820 --> 00:44:10.800
is off, but he still has like a wig cap
1078
00:44:11.300 --> 00:44:12.460
and he's crying.
1079
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.380
Oh, that's the bachelorette party. That's Tom Schwartz's bachelorette party,
1080
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:16.800
which was a nightmare, by the way.
1081
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.449
And he and Kate are fighting and he goes, look
1082
00:44:19.489 --> 00:44:21.889
at him. Look at Schwartz. He's like a fucking battered wife.
1083
00:44:21.909 --> 00:44:22.070
Yeah.
1084
00:44:22.949 --> 00:44:27.610
In all, in overanalyzing all this and going back, I
1085
00:44:27.690 --> 00:44:32.659
believe Schwartz is a battered wife, but Sandoval's the battering husband.
1086
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:35.659
A hundred percent. And Schwartz is very easily manipulated. He's
1087
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:38.000
very easily talked into things. I feel like, and I
1088
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:39.559
talked to Schwartz the other day about this. I'm like,
1089
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:41.280
you know, I'm not going to get into this. I'm like,
1090
00:44:41.300 --> 00:44:43.449
you're getting it. You're my friend. I haven't seen him
1091
00:44:43.469 --> 00:44:44.690
in a while. And I say, let's go have a
1092
00:44:44.710 --> 00:44:46.030
drink and let's go, whatever. And we went back to
1093
00:44:46.070 --> 00:44:48.449
his apartment. And we were just talking. I go, hey, listen,
1094
00:44:48.469 --> 00:44:49.730
I'm not going to tell you how to run your life.
1095
00:44:49.809 --> 00:44:52.900
You're a grown-ass man, but you've got to cut the ties, dude.
1096
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.760
You've got to cut the umbilical cord with Sandoval. He
1097
00:44:55.820 --> 00:44:57.860
is doing nothing but bringing you down, and you do
1098
00:44:57.900 --> 00:45:00.719
not deserve this. You're a good guy. People are seeing
1099
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:03.000
you now and calling you names, and you're getting dragged
1100
00:45:03.019 --> 00:45:05.050
through the mud, and you literally have done nothing wrong.
1101
00:45:05.389 --> 00:45:08.469
Should you have said something sooner? Absolutely. But shoulda, woulda, coulda.
1102
00:45:08.590 --> 00:45:10.349
You know what I'm saying? You were between a rock
1103
00:45:10.369 --> 00:45:13.250
and a hard place. It wasn't your place, I don't think.
1104
00:45:13.730 --> 00:45:15.420
It was his place. He should have said it. He
1105
00:45:15.460 --> 00:45:18.139
literally told everybody but Ariana. I think Kyle Chan knew.
1106
00:45:18.179 --> 00:45:19.039
I think a bunch of people knew.
1107
00:45:19.059 --> 00:45:19.800
Who's Kyle Chan?
1108
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:21.139
The jewelry guy. The jewelry guy.
1109
00:45:21.260 --> 00:45:22.719
And that's whose event they were at.
1110
00:45:22.980 --> 00:45:24.679
Yeah. I mean, I think he's told a lot of people.
1111
00:45:24.699 --> 00:45:27.400
He should have just told Ariana and stopped telling everybody else.
1112
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:33.260
Did the Chan guy give the lightning bolt necklaces? And
1113
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:35.579
then we see that she buys the lightning bolt necklace.
1114
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:35.719
Yeah.
1115
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:36.440
Where did she get $ 800 from?
1116
00:45:38.019 --> 00:45:40.219
Why are there rumors that she's worth $ 30 million on
1117
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:41.619
the internet? Have you seen that?
1118
00:45:41.619 --> 00:45:42.260
$ 30 million?
1119
00:45:42.610 --> 00:45:44.190
Yeah. Like, if you look up her net worth.
1120
00:45:44.210 --> 00:45:45.010
Did you see her apartment?
1121
00:45:45.210 --> 00:45:46.429
No, there's no way.
1122
00:45:46.909 --> 00:45:48.110
I don't think she's worth $ 30 million.
1123
00:45:48.730 --> 00:45:50.250
That's why when people bring that up, I'm like, that
1124
00:45:50.289 --> 00:45:53.829
has been debunked. That's like a weird, like, urban myth.
1125
00:45:54.170 --> 00:45:58.469
Yeah. Yeah. No, that's not true at all. I hope
1126
00:45:58.489 --> 00:46:00.210
she's getting the help that she needs, though. I mean,
1127
00:46:00.510 --> 00:46:03.309
if that's the case, if people, again, I don't really.
1128
00:46:03.969 --> 00:46:05.750
know what's going on with her personally, but if it
1129
00:46:05.829 --> 00:46:08.309
is a mental health situation and I hope she's not
1130
00:46:08.650 --> 00:46:10.789
just going to a hotel and quote unquote saying that
1131
00:46:10.809 --> 00:46:13.170
I'm in a mental health. Uh, that's what I've heard too,
1132
00:46:13.210 --> 00:46:14.889
that she's just staying in a hotel and telling people
1133
00:46:14.929 --> 00:46:17.880
that she's got mental health problems. And she's also using
1134
00:46:18.389 --> 00:46:21.400
other people's other women who do struggle with mental health.
1135
00:46:21.420 --> 00:46:23.519
She's saying, I agree. And I understand she's kind of
1136
00:46:23.699 --> 00:46:26.340
using this as a, a scapegoat. I hope that's not
1137
00:46:26.380 --> 00:46:28.820
the case. I hope if she does have something that
1138
00:46:28.860 --> 00:46:30.920
she really is getting help and not just using this
1139
00:46:31.019 --> 00:46:32.619
as a, Ooh, this could be a way out. You
1140
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:33.380
know what I'm saying?
1141
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:37.449
In, Shorts' defense of keeping his mouth shut for so long.
1142
00:46:38.090 --> 00:46:42.050
I think that, don't you think that Sandoval probably said
1143
00:46:42.070 --> 00:46:45.389
to him, look, the plan is we're going to be
1144
00:46:45.429 --> 00:46:49.969
done with filming soon. We'll do the reunion. Then on
1145
00:46:50.010 --> 00:46:54.260
the break, you know, on the hiatus, I will break
1146
00:46:54.300 --> 00:46:57.199
up with Ariana. And, you know, and then when I
1147
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.880
start dating Raquel, no one will know, you know, that
1148
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:01.840
we dated before.
1149
00:47:01.940 --> 00:47:03.199
Do you think that's how it went?
1150
00:47:03.389 --> 00:47:05.530
I think that's what he told Schwartz to keep Schwartz
1151
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:09.510
quiet because he's like, look, if we can't find out now,
1152
00:47:09.550 --> 00:47:13.639
it'll be more hurtful to find out on camera or whatever.
1153
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:17.599
Let me break up with her not on camera when
1154
00:47:17.619 --> 00:47:21.619
we're on hiatus. That will be less painful to Ariana.
1155
00:47:21.860 --> 00:47:23.920
So you just keep your mouth shut. That's what I
1156
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:25.019
think he told Schwartz.
1157
00:47:25.059 --> 00:47:27.719
Yeah. I mean, I could see that. I could see that.
1158
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:31.079
I can see, like I said, Sandoval manipulates the hell
1159
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.159
out of Schwartz. That is a fact. He will do
1160
00:47:33.219 --> 00:47:35.019
whatever he says. And that's why I said, you got
1161
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:39.039
to cut ties. This is not making any situation easier.
1162
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:41.579
This is not healthy for you, for anybody. Like this is. Yeah.
1163
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:42.760
But if he cuts ties, I mean.
1164
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.280
He has to cut ties. He doesn't have like, they're
1165
00:47:45.300 --> 00:47:47.219
going to lose the bar. They're going to lose everything.
1166
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:49.119
People are going to the restaurant. People are saying it's
1167
00:47:49.139 --> 00:47:49.679
like packed.
1168
00:47:49.940 --> 00:47:51.639
I went there Thursday night. There was five people there.
1169
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.969
This was 1030 at night. There was five people there. Oh.
1170
00:47:57.030 --> 00:48:00.190
And the bar manager, the owner, they can't stand Sandoval.
1171
00:48:00.250 --> 00:48:02.050
They don't want him there anymore. They want to buy
1172
00:48:02.070 --> 00:48:04.610
him out. This is all, I'm hearing this. This is
1173
00:48:04.670 --> 00:48:05.570
all people, things are saying.
1174
00:48:05.750 --> 00:48:07.869
So, all right, let me ask.
1175
00:48:07.949 --> 00:48:09.949
So again, and it's not cheap to have a bar
1176
00:48:09.989 --> 00:48:12.030
in LA. You got rents, you got overhead, you got employees.
1177
00:48:12.139 --> 00:48:12.929
I mean, that's why, I mean, I understand.
1178
00:48:12.949 --> 00:48:14.960
How are you footing the bill for this? Who's paying
1179
00:48:14.980 --> 00:48:17.019
for this? And then I know, I also know that
1180
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:20.159
he borrowed, Tom Sandoval borrowed like 200 grand from his mom, his,
1181
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.099
her retirement fund. So you like knowing this in the
1182
00:48:23.139 --> 00:48:25.199
back of your head, you have all this money tied
1183
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:28.820
up and all this, knowing that this could jeopardize your business,
1184
00:48:28.860 --> 00:48:32.460
your mom's financial status, your best friend's financial status. And
1185
00:48:32.500 --> 00:48:34.639
you still decided to do this.
1186
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:38.250
Well, I mean, I think it's the ultimate narcissistic move.
1187
00:48:38.489 --> 00:48:38.610
It's.
1188
00:48:39.110 --> 00:48:41.070
Hey, listen, can I make it very clear, by the way,
1189
00:48:41.289 --> 00:48:42.869
I have no leg to stand on when it comes
1190
00:48:42.949 --> 00:48:46.800
to being an asshole. I've made my fair share of mistakes. I,
1191
00:48:47.150 --> 00:48:49.400
you know, I, I've cheated as well. I think the
1192
00:48:49.460 --> 00:48:51.460
difference is, is the way he went about this and
1193
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:54.659
the way his lack of empathy and just the whole
1194
00:48:54.699 --> 00:48:56.320
affair thing. You know, like I said, everybody on the
1195
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:58.579
show has cheated or done something wrong. It was silly.
1196
00:48:58.780 --> 00:49:00.980
You know, whatever. But it's never gone like to this.
1197
00:49:01.019 --> 00:49:03.440
And I think that's kind of why it's gone on
1198
00:49:03.539 --> 00:49:05.420
so long. Do you think? Because I'm trying to wrap
1199
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.320
my head around the fact that why this has gotten
1200
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:07.639
so big.
1201
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:13.139
Asking you a guy who's a recovering... Scumbag. Yes. When
1202
00:49:13.219 --> 00:49:16.829
you do cheat on a girlfriend and your cheatings that
1203
00:49:16.869 --> 00:49:21.380
were featured... were essentially one night stand type of things.
1204
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:21.619
Yeah.
1205
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:25.500
So when you're entering that moment of, I'm going to have,
1206
00:49:25.659 --> 00:49:27.570
I'm going to sleep with this other person and I
1207
00:49:27.590 --> 00:49:29.349
have this girlfriend at home and I've had a few drinks.
1208
00:49:30.210 --> 00:49:33.489
How does a guy like you How do you justify
1209
00:49:33.510 --> 00:49:36.090
it in your brain? How do you compartmentalize?
1210
00:49:36.269 --> 00:49:38.110
Well, I can tell you how I was. I was
1211
00:49:38.170 --> 00:49:40.449
going through hell at that time. I was going through
1212
00:49:41.230 --> 00:49:44.369
just some personal demons and I was insecure as all hell.
1213
00:49:44.469 --> 00:49:48.170
I hated who I was. Living in this life out here,
1214
00:49:48.210 --> 00:49:50.530
am I good enough? Am I still good enough? I
1215
00:49:51.090 --> 00:49:52.750
just didn't like the person I was. And it had
1216
00:49:52.789 --> 00:49:54.989
nothing to do with the person who I hooked up
1217
00:49:55.030 --> 00:49:56.309
with at the time. And I'm not going to say
1218
00:49:56.349 --> 00:49:57.820
who it was. It could have been a hole in
1219
00:49:57.860 --> 00:49:59.530
the wall. It didn't matter who it was. It was
1220
00:49:59.570 --> 00:50:03.630
just whoever was you know, there. And it just, and
1221
00:50:03.690 --> 00:50:05.469
I knew going in, this is, this is a bad,
1222
00:50:05.510 --> 00:50:07.769
but I just, I hated myself at the time. You know,
1223
00:50:08.050 --> 00:50:09.489
as you guys know, I've been on the show, I've
1224
00:50:09.510 --> 00:50:12.039
been to therapy millions of times, nothing worked. I just
1225
00:50:12.059 --> 00:50:14.420
didn't like who I was. And again, I was just
1226
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:17.659
a very self-destructive person. And I thank God, thank God
1227
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:21.179
that my now wife is just an amazing woman and
1228
00:50:21.579 --> 00:50:24.329
stuck by me and said, listen, you know, I know
1229
00:50:24.409 --> 00:50:26.250
you didn't do this just to hurt me. This is
1230
00:50:26.289 --> 00:50:27.750
something that you're going through and we're going to get
1231
00:50:27.769 --> 00:50:31.510
through this together. And, you know, I think we fixed it. And,
1232
00:50:32.030 --> 00:50:33.949
you know, I, it didn't just happen overnight. I had
1233
00:50:33.989 --> 00:50:36.010
to work my ass off to get my wife back,
1234
00:50:36.130 --> 00:50:38.260
work my ass off, you know, and I didn't like
1235
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:39.739
who I was at the time. Let's just make it
1236
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:42.139
very clear. I didn't like who I was. And I
1237
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:44.539
was insecure. I was very insecure. And it was like,
1238
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:46.710
I didn't, I was just going through a lot of
1239
00:50:46.730 --> 00:50:48.849
things personally. I'm not trying to justify it, but people
1240
00:50:48.869 --> 00:50:50.530
ask why you did what you did. And I'm telling
1241
00:50:50.550 --> 00:50:52.119
you the reasons why I did what I did. And I,
1242
00:50:52.289 --> 00:50:54.050
I just didn't like myself. And like I said, I,
1243
00:50:54.389 --> 00:50:56.619
I had a, I have a very strong, strong woman
1244
00:50:56.659 --> 00:50:59.000
in my corner, like very, very strong. And she saw
1245
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:01.780
the bigger picture and she knew this is not him.
1246
00:51:01.940 --> 00:51:03.619
He's going through something. And she's like, we're going to
1247
00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:05.199
work on this, but I'm going to make his ass
1248
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:07.400
work for it. And she did. And she did.
1249
00:51:08.059 --> 00:51:10.380
And I mean, I think, I think in, in your
1250
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:12.860
case and in many guys, and I've said this before, it,
1251
00:51:13.739 --> 00:51:17.179
it isn't about the girl. your partner that you're cheating on.
1252
00:51:17.420 --> 00:51:20.909
And oftentimes it's not the girl that you're having the
1253
00:51:20.969 --> 00:51:25.969
indiscretion with. It is your own insecurity and your ego boost.
1254
00:51:26.170 --> 00:51:30.449
Someone strokes your ego. And at that time you're insecure
1255
00:51:30.510 --> 00:51:33.889
enough that you need it. You need, you take it.
1256
00:51:33.889 --> 00:51:34.389
Right.
1257
00:51:34.789 --> 00:51:37.380
And it's, it is really about you. And, you know,
1258
00:51:37.409 --> 00:51:43.400
and oftentimes with girls that are the one, like, sleeping
1259
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.500
with the guy who's connected to someone they know, whether
1260
00:51:46.539 --> 00:51:51.199
it's personal or famous. That oftentimes the girl is kind
1261
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:55.320
of obsessed with, I mean, whether you're watching Fatal Attraction
1262
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.389
or whatever, where someone wants the life that this other
1263
00:51:58.409 --> 00:52:01.809
woman has. It's not even about the guy. It's like, ooh,
1264
00:52:02.230 --> 00:52:04.349
you know, like I fucked, you know, back in the day,
1265
00:52:04.510 --> 00:52:08.190
I fucked Lamar Odom. You know, he was fucking me
1266
00:52:08.349 --> 00:52:11.130
and he's married to a Kardashian. That makes me like
1267
00:52:11.349 --> 00:52:12.840
one step closer to it.
1268
00:52:13.030 --> 00:52:13.150
Yeah.
1269
00:52:13.170 --> 00:52:15.679
You know, and I think there's that. And then you
1270
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:19.880
add an element of the fame and like with Raquel,
1271
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.139
and I don't know if she even went this deep,
1272
00:52:22.420 --> 00:52:25.340
but it's not only her ego, if we're going to
1273
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:27.889
talk about Raquel, her ego was getting boosted by Tom
1274
00:52:28.110 --> 00:52:31.559
wanting to be with her. But then also- being friends
1275
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:35.980
with Ariana, like being like, wow, here's this prettier, sexy,
1276
00:52:36.420 --> 00:52:39.579
more mature, more like, been on the show forever girl.
1277
00:52:39.739 --> 00:52:39.940
Right.
1278
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:40.760
Yeah, no, today.
1279
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:43.019
And no, I think that's what, the fact that Ariana
1280
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.159
and Raquel were so close and were friends and like,
1281
00:52:45.619 --> 00:52:48.139
she was sleeping over at their house in her bed
1282
00:52:48.219 --> 00:52:50.789
for so long and the sleepovers and the skinny dipping
1283
00:52:50.829 --> 00:52:52.969
and the hot tubs, like it went to a whole
1284
00:52:53.010 --> 00:52:55.630
different level. It wasn't just a, you know, a little
1285
00:52:55.650 --> 00:52:57.789
thing here. This was like a whole going on for
1286
00:52:57.929 --> 00:53:01.010
so long. And I think obviously that's why This has
1287
00:53:01.369 --> 00:53:03.570
put everything else that's happened on Vanderpump Rules on the
1288
00:53:03.590 --> 00:53:06.789
back burner because this is pretty intense and it's pretty...
1289
00:53:06.550 --> 00:53:09.480
I mean, I got to say with the way social
1290
00:53:09.500 --> 00:53:11.840
media is nowadays and everything, the fact that they kept
1291
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:16.099
it a secret for so long, as you know, it's impossible.
1292
00:53:16.380 --> 00:53:18.699
I think it's impossible to cheat nowadays. It's impossible.
1293
00:53:19.179 --> 00:53:21.159
Well, I think it's for the same reason that even,
1294
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.860
you know, even though Lala on the show had moments
1295
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:27.320
on camera where she's like, I think things are up.
1296
00:53:27.449 --> 00:53:31.199
I mean, you know, the season ended and nothing was
1297
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:32.380
exposed about the affair.
1298
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.260
That's because they never talked about it. Even this going
1299
00:53:35.300 --> 00:53:37.619
around in the show, Sandoval was very like, I'm not
1300
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.239
talking about my relationship. He would never talk about it.
1301
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:41.820
Never talk about he and Ariana.
1302
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:43.800
Yeah, he never talked about he and Ariana. And I
1303
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:47.340
had arguments about this off camera with production. This is bullshit.
1304
00:53:47.380 --> 00:53:49.780
We're on a reality show together. He always gets away
1305
00:53:49.820 --> 00:53:52.079
with not talking about his personal things. He can always
1306
00:53:52.099 --> 00:53:54.179
just scapegoat it and go into everybody else's and tell
1307
00:53:54.219 --> 00:53:56.400
everybody else how to act. But he never dove into
1308
00:53:56.420 --> 00:53:58.900
the relationship. And I said this many, many times. He
1309
00:53:58.940 --> 00:54:01.940
never got into him and Ariana's relationship. He would always
1310
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:04.960
just go right over it. Like, oh, we're perfect. We're perfect.
1311
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.400
We're perfect. And always just go into everybody else's. And
1312
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:09.639
I said this for years that this shit's not fair.
1313
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.110
We're all in this together. We're all making X amount
1314
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:13.909
of dollars. You need to put in the work too.
1315
00:54:13.989 --> 00:54:14.690
It's not fair.
1316
00:54:15.130 --> 00:54:17.269
And I always say that too about a reality show.
1317
00:54:17.309 --> 00:54:21.909
When someone shares everything, their cracks, their therapy, their fucked
1318
00:54:21.969 --> 00:54:26.130
up family, whatever. And then someone doesn't, the reason why
1319
00:54:26.269 --> 00:54:30.070
it does make people like you that exposed every bad
1320
00:54:30.090 --> 00:54:32.469
thing about yourself on the show, why it would make
1321
00:54:32.510 --> 00:54:34.630
you resentful. I'm like, it's like if you all worked
1322
00:54:34.670 --> 00:54:37.949
at a factory and you're working from eight to seven
1323
00:54:38.389 --> 00:54:41.699
and Tom Sandoval is leaving at noon and not coming
1324
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:45.079
back after lunch. That's why people are like, that's why
1325
00:54:45.139 --> 00:54:48.570
people then sometimes want to call out that person. On
1326
00:54:48.590 --> 00:54:50.210
the show and why they get resentful.
1327
00:54:50.250 --> 00:54:52.090
And I think they are now. I think they finally,
1328
00:54:52.110 --> 00:54:54.050
finally are. And everyone's like, are you having this redemption moment?
1329
00:54:54.130 --> 00:54:57.170
And I, I, I, of course I, I smile a
1330
00:54:57.250 --> 00:54:59.670
little bit, a little bit more because of what's going
1331
00:54:59.750 --> 00:55:01.719
on because I, for so long, I was always looked
1332
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:03.860
as the bad guy because they would just go, you know,
1333
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:06.079
I don't want to say ride my coattails, but no
1334
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:09.659
matter what they have done, I would Trump that no
1335
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:11.500
matter what I did, it would always be talked about
1336
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:13.380
and magnified. Do you know what I'm saying? No matter,
1337
00:55:13.409 --> 00:55:15.360
you know, what was going on in the show. If
1338
00:55:15.389 --> 00:55:17.369
they did something wrong, it wasn't talked about as much
1339
00:55:17.409 --> 00:55:19.369
as compared to what I did. So I think the
1340
00:55:19.409 --> 00:55:20.909
fact that we're now, I'm not on the show anymore.
1341
00:55:20.929 --> 00:55:23.690
Now all this stuff's being exposed and that's what I think.
1342
00:55:24.510 --> 00:55:26.349
And you went and he did end up going to
1343
00:55:26.369 --> 00:55:28.929
your wedding, right? But he wasn't in or he wasn't.
1344
00:55:28.949 --> 00:55:31.429
I got forced into that. That was not, that was
1345
00:55:31.489 --> 00:55:34.289
not my choice. My wife sat me aside and goes, listen,
1346
00:55:34.329 --> 00:55:36.780
you will regret this if you don't have them and not,
1347
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:39.460
And I was just like, I don't, I don't want
1348
00:55:39.500 --> 00:55:41.400
him there, but I couldn't have Ariana there if I
1349
00:55:41.420 --> 00:55:43.599
didn't have Tom there. And Brittany was like, I really
1350
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:45.960
want Ariana there. So if you have Ariana there, then
1351
00:55:45.980 --> 00:55:47.760
you have to have Tom. So I'm like, this is
1352
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:49.980
my wife's wedding. This is her wedding. I want her
1353
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.500
to be very, very happy. So I'm just going to,
1354
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:53.570
you know, bite the bullet.
1355
00:55:53.590 --> 00:55:56.590
Do you think at that time, Tom Sandoval knew that you,
1356
00:55:57.829 --> 00:56:00.369
there was no coming back that you knew who he was?
1357
00:56:00.489 --> 00:56:02.210
Or do you think he thought, oh, he'll get over
1358
00:56:02.250 --> 00:56:03.489
this and we'll be buddies again?
1359
00:56:03.510 --> 00:56:06.110
Yeah. I think he'll just like, yeah, typical Jax. He'll just,
1360
00:56:06.289 --> 00:56:09.010
you know, sweeping under the rug. And, you know, and
1361
00:56:09.130 --> 00:56:11.090
for my wife and to make her happy, I did
1362
00:56:11.210 --> 00:56:13.449
what I needed to do. And I invited him, you know, like,
1363
00:56:13.630 --> 00:56:15.090
you know, what was the point? I just make, I
1364
00:56:15.110 --> 00:56:16.550
just want my wife to be happy. And I want
1365
00:56:16.610 --> 00:56:19.570
Ariana to be at the wedding because I liked Ariana.
1366
00:56:19.590 --> 00:56:21.980
I just didn't want him there. I just, I just,
1367
00:56:22.019 --> 00:56:24.099
he's a, he's a slime. He's just, he's like, what
1368
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:25.739
do you, was James call him a worm? He's a
1369
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:30.139
worm snake. He's just very, like, he's just very manipulative.
1370
00:56:30.340 --> 00:56:33.579
And so after the wedding, did you guys ever really hang?
1371
00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:34.409
No, no.
1372
00:56:35.530 --> 00:56:39.010
And if the show was to come back, um, and
1373
00:56:39.090 --> 00:56:41.710
invite you to be back on as a regular, would
1374
00:56:41.769 --> 00:56:43.050
you film with him?
1375
00:56:43.070 --> 00:56:45.800
It's the million dollar question. I don't know.
1376
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:49.260
I mean, that's what I think. I'm like, I got to.
1377
00:56:49.179 --> 00:56:53.119
Discuss it with people. Uh, if it were to happen,
1378
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:55.380
I'd have to discuss it. And if, if it would
1379
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:59.969
make sense, um, I'm in such a different place right now.
1380
00:56:59.989 --> 00:57:02.269
I'm so happy. I have a beautiful wife. I have
1381
00:57:02.309 --> 00:57:05.710
a beautiful child. Uh, you know, we're just so good
1382
00:57:05.730 --> 00:57:08.190
right now and things are so great. I don't, I
1383
00:57:08.230 --> 00:57:10.010
don't know if I want to disrupt that. You know
1384
00:57:10.030 --> 00:57:11.730
what I'm saying? It's like, I haven't felt this good
1385
00:57:11.769 --> 00:57:15.380
about myself. I'm getting emotional about this. I haven't felt
1386
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:18.440
this good about myself in so long. I haven't. I've
1387
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:20.679
always had these demons on my shoulder all the time.
1388
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:24.000
And I just, I feel so good about myself. And
1389
00:57:24.019 --> 00:57:28.000
it's so, it's just refreshing. It's a great feeling, you know?
1390
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:30.360
And like I said, it's, I'm not having my aha moment.
1391
00:57:30.380 --> 00:57:32.420
I just, I just feel good. And like, so if
1392
00:57:32.460 --> 00:57:35.039
I dive back into this, I have to make sure
1393
00:57:35.059 --> 00:57:38.559
that it makes sense for me, my family, um, my friends,
1394
00:57:39.059 --> 00:57:44.780
you know, I had to repair a lot of friendships, Lala, Sheena, Ariana, uh, Schwartz, Katie,
1395
00:57:45.250 --> 00:57:46.750
I mean, I have to repair, I had to repair
1396
00:57:46.789 --> 00:57:49.329
a lot of damage that I've done over the years. So,
1397
00:57:49.429 --> 00:57:52.630
and I'm finally at a place where I'm like 95% there.
1398
00:57:52.690 --> 00:57:54.570
There's still a couple of people that I need to
1399
00:57:55.110 --> 00:57:59.110
smooth over a little bit, uh, Stassi Bo. Uh, but
1400
00:57:59.170 --> 00:58:02.230
other than that, um, I, I, I'm just in a
1401
00:58:02.289 --> 00:58:05.309
really good place. So, If I were, I'm not saying
1402
00:58:05.329 --> 00:58:06.769
I am, to come back to the show, I would
1403
00:58:06.809 --> 00:58:09.809
have to discuss it with my friends and my family first.
1404
00:58:10.130 --> 00:58:13.070
And if they thought it was a good idea, then okay.
1405
00:58:13.510 --> 00:58:16.510
But that's the way I'd have to deal with that.
1406
00:58:16.550 --> 00:58:16.650
Yeah.
1407
00:58:16.690 --> 00:58:17.949
If that makes sense. What do you think?
1408
00:58:18.150 --> 00:58:24.420
No, I mean, it totally makes sense. And, I mean, like,
1409
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:26.960
as someone who watches a show and someone who's real,
1410
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.500
what I think makes this show so interesting and always
1411
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:33.730
has been, is that you guys are real friends. You
1412
00:58:33.769 --> 00:58:38.230
have real history. But I, you know, I do believe
1413
00:58:38.610 --> 00:58:44.610
that people can reflect and change. And I find it's like, psychologically,
1414
00:58:44.670 --> 00:58:47.630
this show is extremely intriguing. Like this could be a
1415
00:58:48.250 --> 00:58:51.440
college course. Like this, I will not be surprised if
1416
00:58:51.500 --> 00:58:56.320
like in communications and sociology classes in the future, people
1417
00:58:56.340 --> 00:58:59.159
will reference this like a time in history. 100%. that
1418
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:02.360
we could actually watch it happen and watch the relationships
1419
00:59:02.449 --> 00:59:03.110
and everything.
1420
00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:06.929
I mean, I talked to colleges about this already in
1421
00:59:06.969 --> 00:59:09.829
the past. I've gone to colleges and people ask questions.
1422
00:59:09.900 --> 00:59:12.480
How does this work? Why is your show so successful?
1423
00:59:12.539 --> 00:59:14.739
Why is your show better than everybody else's show? And
1424
00:59:14.780 --> 00:59:18.079
I have one word. It's organic. This wasn't a casted show.
1425
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:20.570
This wasn't, Susie, I need you to make out with Jeff. Jeff,
1426
00:59:20.610 --> 00:59:23.630
you need to cheat on Kathy. Kathy, you need to
1427
00:59:23.670 --> 00:59:25.269
be best friends with her, but you got to pretend
1428
00:59:25.289 --> 00:59:26.929
like you got... This show already existed.
1429
00:59:26.949 --> 00:59:28.730
Or even that they do a casting of like, we
1430
00:59:28.769 --> 00:59:31.010
want to do a show about a bunch of waiters. Yeah.
1431
00:59:31.070 --> 00:59:33.460
And we want to make sure that there's one person
1432
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:36.340
from this part of town, one person that's cis sexuality,
1433
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:38.980
one person that, you know, like they didn't. You guys
1434
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:42.400
were actually friends, which made it so brilliant.
1435
00:59:42.460 --> 00:59:45.239
And when they start to alter that, which they have
1436
00:59:45.300 --> 00:59:47.320
started to do a little bit on Vanderpump Rules, they
1437
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:51.179
start adding people that aren't necessarily friends. Because you see, like,
1438
00:59:51.219 --> 00:59:53.280
people aren't stupid. Fans of the show love the show.
1439
00:59:53.659 --> 00:59:56.469
They know when the taping's over, everyone's at my house.
1440
00:59:56.659 --> 00:59:59.409
They still are. My house is the central location where
1441
00:59:59.489 --> 01:00:01.570
everybody goes. And then you're like, well, how come this
1442
01:00:01.610 --> 01:00:03.269
person's not there? Well, how come this person's on the show,
1443
01:00:03.309 --> 01:00:06.110
but they're not over? Because they have to, because the
1444
01:00:06.130 --> 01:00:08.230
show's been on so long that sometimes they have to
1445
01:00:08.389 --> 01:00:10.429
add other people. And there's new people that are going
1446
01:00:10.449 --> 01:00:12.210
to come into the group, such as Allie, by the way,
1447
01:00:12.329 --> 01:00:14.260
James' new girlfriend, Allie. I think she's a sweetheart. I
1448
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:15.039
think she's a beautiful person.
1449
01:00:15.059 --> 01:00:15.860
Yeah, she's very likable.
1450
01:00:15.940 --> 01:00:20.219
But there is some people that are on that are like,
1451
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:23.639
what is she doing there? Well, you know what? I'm
1452
01:00:23.699 --> 01:00:24.800
not going to say names.
1453
01:00:24.980 --> 01:00:27.630
No offense to Charlie. Okay, that's... Like, she's a cute girl.
1454
01:00:27.710 --> 01:00:28.659
But I don't understand it.
1455
01:00:28.670 --> 01:00:30.369
But literally, when she was buying.
1456
01:00:30.389 --> 01:00:31.250
Never seen her once in my life.
1457
01:00:31.269 --> 01:00:33.090
When she was buying the necklace, it took me a
1458
01:00:33.130 --> 01:00:35.159
minute and I go, wait a minute, that's not Allie.
1459
01:00:35.179 --> 01:00:35.320
Yeah.
1460
01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:36.219
Who the fuck is.
1461
01:00:36.340 --> 01:00:40.300
Exactly. I forgot because also... Hey, she wasn't involved in
1462
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:42.760
the storyline either. So when they were editing, there was
1463
01:00:42.780 --> 01:00:44.719
nothing that happened with her. It's not her fault.
1464
01:00:44.780 --> 01:00:45.000
Right.
1465
01:00:45.099 --> 01:00:46.900
I'm sure she's like a cool person.
1466
01:00:46.940 --> 01:00:47.730
Oh, I'm sure she is.
1467
01:00:47.739 --> 01:00:50.760
But like, it just doesn't really make sense in the show.
1468
01:00:50.780 --> 01:00:51.139
It doesn't.
1469
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:51.460
It doesn't.
1470
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:53.780
And that's why she's not featured as much, you know, because,
1471
01:00:55.059 --> 01:00:56.340
you know, you, yeah.
1472
01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:57.909
I just think for being on the show for so long,
1473
01:00:57.949 --> 01:01:00.289
the show's gone so long, people, real people know who's
1474
01:01:00.329 --> 01:01:02.329
friends and who's not. So when you throw in like
1475
01:01:02.369 --> 01:01:05.070
just some random person, you're like, this isn't real. Like,
1476
01:01:05.110 --> 01:01:05.849
you know what I'm saying?
1477
01:01:05.969 --> 01:01:08.940
And speaking of which, do you think Billy Lee? who
1478
01:01:08.980 --> 01:01:11.699
was only on for a short period of time, ever
1479
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:16.010
hooked up with Sandoval? Sheena believes so.
1480
01:01:16.190 --> 01:01:18.030
Yes. Sheena said yes? Okay, then I'll say yes.
1481
01:01:18.050 --> 01:01:18.949
Sheena said it on her show.
1482
01:01:18.989 --> 01:01:19.389
Yeah, okay.
1483
01:01:19.409 --> 01:01:19.989
On her podcast.
1484
01:01:20.050 --> 01:01:25.050
Yeah. If you're asking my opinion, yes, I do. Yes, 100%.
1485
01:01:25.050 --> 01:01:28.070
And so recently they showed her leaving his place.
1486
01:01:28.090 --> 01:01:28.449
Saw that.
1487
01:01:29.030 --> 01:01:31.329
Do you think she called the paparazzi or do you
1488
01:01:31.409 --> 01:01:34.170
think she stayed and... Two things could be true.
1489
01:01:34.110 --> 01:01:36.250
At the same time. You know, I wouldn't put it
1490
01:01:36.269 --> 01:01:38.949
past her. But again, I don't know her that well,
1491
01:01:38.989 --> 01:01:42.039
but I don't know. I don't know. They're all a
1492
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:44.800
sneaky bunch, man. They really, really are. I don't know
1493
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:49.500
what's going on. You know, I don't know. I don't know.
1494
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:52.099
Do you think it'll come out? It'll eventually come out.
1495
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:52.980
I don't know. Maybe.
1496
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:53.679
I don't know.
1497
01:01:54.139 --> 01:01:57.280
But do I? Yes, I think they hooked up. Okay.
1498
01:01:58.219 --> 01:01:58.400
Yeah.
1499
01:01:59.139 --> 01:01:59.519
What do you think?
1500
01:02:00.449 --> 01:02:01.650
I mean, I kind of think so. I mean, I
1501
01:02:01.659 --> 01:02:03.769
think there was chemistry and a friendship. And I mean,
1502
01:02:03.809 --> 01:02:08.909
I just, I think, you know, I wouldn't be surprised
1503
01:02:09.210 --> 01:02:13.329
if in, if show comes back, Sandoval's still on it.
1504
01:02:14.409 --> 01:02:16.369
It will be, I'm a sex addict.
1505
01:02:16.929 --> 01:02:17.409
Curious.
1506
01:02:17.789 --> 01:02:20.590
That'll be the next thing that he kind of explores
1507
01:02:20.769 --> 01:02:23.010
in therapy or whatever. Does he have some type of,
1508
01:02:24.489 --> 01:02:26.630
Why does he do the things he does? Which can
1509
01:02:26.650 --> 01:02:29.409
be really interesting for people at home. If we really
1510
01:02:29.469 --> 01:02:30.469
went through it, it's sort of explored.
1511
01:02:30.489 --> 01:02:31.739
I don't think he's a sex addict. I think he's
1512
01:02:31.780 --> 01:02:32.719
an attention addict.
1513
01:02:32.820 --> 01:02:35.820
I think he needs a lot of attention.
1514
01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:38.079
He needs the focus to be on him. He needs
1515
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:40.320
to be the life of the party. He needs to
1516
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:44.260
be putting on the biggest show. He needs that. That's
1517
01:02:44.300 --> 01:02:48.079
his drug of choice is attention. I don't know if
1518
01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:53.760
it's sex per se or controlling. He can control Raquel.
1519
01:02:54.219 --> 01:02:57.530
He's very Ariana. You can't control. She's a very strong individual.
1520
01:02:57.929 --> 01:03:00.309
She will not be told what to do for Kel.
1521
01:03:00.349 --> 01:03:02.119
You can tell her to do anything. She'll do it.
1522
01:03:02.190 --> 01:03:03.510
Especially now you have Tom.
1523
01:03:03.289 --> 01:03:06.800
Telling you, do you think there's any chance that they
1524
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.500
will continue to see each other and date?
1525
01:03:09.579 --> 01:03:11.400
And that's a great question. I don't, I don't know.
1526
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:13.400
I mean, you know what? Now I'm watching it too.
1527
01:03:13.460 --> 01:03:15.519
And now he's doing these concerts and kind of poking.
1528
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:16.739
It's really disturbing.
1529
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:17.000
Okay.
1530
01:03:17.019 --> 01:03:20.670
So I'm fun and saying Raquel is not for me. Like, dude,
1531
01:03:20.750 --> 01:03:25.110
you're disgusting. That's disturbing. Like you've already laid the ground
1532
01:03:25.150 --> 01:03:28.210
for what you've done. Now you're just digging it deeper.
1533
01:03:28.329 --> 01:03:30.969
Like you're poking fun of the fact that you did
1534
01:03:31.010 --> 01:03:33.730
this for so long against Ariana. Mind you, Ariana's doing
1535
01:03:33.789 --> 01:03:36.659
fine and she looks happier. But still, like you're still
1536
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:38.500
like digging at it and like poking fun of something
1537
01:03:38.539 --> 01:03:42.260
so personal. Like you're singing about it and then adding
1538
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:44.639
your best friend's name in it. Like that is where
1539
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:46.440
it's starting to get. Now it's like, dude, you need help.
1540
01:03:46.780 --> 01:03:47.360
You need help now.
1541
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:47.880
Yeah.
1542
01:03:47.900 --> 01:03:48.059
Like.
1543
01:03:48.690 --> 01:03:50.570
It's gone one far. Now you're taking it such a
1544
01:03:50.610 --> 01:03:52.670
step further that now it's like getting part to like, well,
1545
01:03:52.690 --> 01:03:54.349
you're making fun and you're trying to make a buck
1546
01:03:54.409 --> 01:03:57.050
off this. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like it's,
1547
01:03:57.150 --> 01:03:59.719
you're trying to keep it going maybe. I don't know.
1548
01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:01.199
But what do you think? Don't you think that's really
1549
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:03.920
disturbing to throw her in this, change the lyrics of
1550
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:05.320
a song and Raquel is not for me.
1551
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:08.440
And he had the lightning bolts on either side. I'm like, listen,
1552
01:04:08.659 --> 01:04:10.940
I think now he has come to the place where like.
1553
01:04:10.980 --> 01:04:11.969
Do you think he's starting to lose it?
1554
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:13.940
I think he's starting to lose it in a sense,
1555
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:16.539
but I also think he's like, now let me take
1556
01:04:16.579 --> 01:04:19.429
the lemons and make my own lemonade. And now let
1557
01:04:19.510 --> 01:04:23.590
me try to profit off this because everyone's so obsessed
1558
01:04:23.610 --> 01:04:25.739
with it. And if I say, I mean, it was
1559
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:28.599
kind of smart because if he said it, then that
1560
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:31.190
went viral. That little video went viral. I saw it.
1561
01:04:31.219 --> 01:04:34.570
People talk about it. And even though, you know, people
1562
01:04:34.590 --> 01:04:37.030
are like the show sucks and whatever, there's enough interest
1563
01:04:37.070 --> 01:04:39.210
that people might go, let's fucking just go for the.
1564
01:04:39.190 --> 01:04:39.590
Fuck of it.
1565
01:04:39.610 --> 01:04:41.469
Like there might be some, you know, Bravo fans that.
1566
01:04:41.860 --> 01:04:44.519
But the tickets are free now, right? So basically they're
1567
01:04:44.539 --> 01:04:48.219
buy one, get one free. Are people going? I don't know.
1568
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.610
I don't know. But listen, I know as a standup
1569
01:04:52.170 --> 01:04:54.719
and sometimes when I do my live Juicy Scoops, And
1570
01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:57.340
I get, you know, if I bring a couple more people,
1571
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.679
it's more, I make less. Right. If it's just me alone,
1572
01:05:01.110 --> 01:05:04.730
he's got a whole band. That's why he's probably having
1573
01:05:05.309 --> 01:05:06.110
financial trouble.
1574
01:05:06.469 --> 01:05:08.190
It's a nine-person band.
1575
01:05:08.210 --> 01:05:08.489
Right.
1576
01:05:08.530 --> 01:05:09.309
Venmo everybody?
1577
01:05:09.469 --> 01:05:12.429
No, exactly. I mean, even when Luann started her cabaret thing,
1578
01:05:12.469 --> 01:05:14.949
she had a lot more people. Now she's tapered it down.
1579
01:05:15.429 --> 01:05:17.269
You have to think about how you have all the,
1580
01:05:17.500 --> 01:05:19.199
and then you have bands.
1581
01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:20.900
Travel, hotels, equipment.
1582
01:05:21.139 --> 01:05:21.920
Yeah, it's a lot.
1583
01:05:22.309 --> 01:05:25.570
Lighting this and that. And yeah, I, I don't, I
1584
01:05:25.610 --> 01:05:27.409
don't know. I don't know how, how it works.
1585
01:05:28.090 --> 01:05:31.699
I don't, I mean, it's probably not profitable, but he's
1586
01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:34.239
going to, he's going to, you know, see out these dates.
1587
01:05:35.019 --> 01:05:38.079
So I don't know. So it'll be, you know, really, um,
1588
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:43.190
crazy to see. Now we're going to play the dog.
1589
01:05:43.369 --> 01:05:46.929
Okay. Is this the pre, uh, the, uh, this was.
1590
01:05:46.829 --> 01:05:50.170
The craziest story. Outrageous. Devastating.
1591
01:05:50.269 --> 01:05:50.630
Insane.
1592
01:05:51.030 --> 01:05:52.969
Randall Emmett is sketch at best.
1593
01:05:53.570 --> 01:05:55.849
Randall Emmett, Hollywood movie producer.
1594
01:05:55.909 --> 01:05:58.550
Lola Kent, reality star. Vanderpump Rules.
1595
01:05:59.030 --> 01:06:03.050
The lifestyle, the Rolls Royces, the Jets.
1596
01:06:03.409 --> 01:06:06.510
You paid so much just to have status.
1597
01:06:07.429 --> 01:06:12.019
Vanderpump Rules, it's about these young, hot 20-somethings. This is
1598
01:06:12.059 --> 01:06:16.360
the juiciest time in reality show history. How could I
1599
01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:19.500
not have been smarter? Like, I beat myself up daily.
1600
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:23.980
How is my daughter having to pay for my stupidity
1601
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:26.480
and me keeping my blinders on and not wanting to
1602
01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:27.199
see red flags?
1603
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:28.989
The Randall Scandal.
1604
01:06:29.300 --> 01:06:31.590
Love, loathing, and Vanderpump.
1605
01:06:34.409 --> 01:06:40.449
Wow. Wow. Wow. Holy cow. So, I mean, you guys. Well,
1606
01:06:40.469 --> 01:06:41.429
do you want to hear my side of the story
1607
01:06:41.469 --> 01:06:41.610
on this?
1608
01:06:41.630 --> 01:06:42.949
Yes, I definitely want to hear your side.
1609
01:06:43.349 --> 01:06:45.389
Well, he owes me money. I make it very clear
1610
01:06:45.409 --> 01:06:47.010
on my podcast and I'm going to keep making it
1611
01:06:47.050 --> 01:06:49.010
very clear on my podcast. He owes me $ 75, 000 and
1612
01:06:49.170 --> 01:06:54.610
I'm going to explain to you why he owes me $ 75, 000.
1613
01:06:52.929 --> 01:06:56.880
I was doing bridge loans with Randall before COVID. You know,
1614
01:06:56.909 --> 01:06:58.699
I would invest some money and then he'd promise me
1615
01:06:58.739 --> 01:07:00.619
certain back and it was working out for the first
1616
01:07:01.179 --> 01:07:04.460
three movies. Everything was fine. Then the last movie I did,
1617
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:11.230
I invested $ 100, 000. COVID happened. Movie didn't happen. Okay, no problem.
1618
01:07:11.409 --> 01:07:13.150
Can I have my money back and I'll reinvest again
1619
01:07:13.190 --> 01:07:16.380
when COVID's over. I don't have the money right now.
1620
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:19.090
Why don't you have the money if there's no movie happening?
1621
01:07:19.210 --> 01:07:21.210
I don't know. I'll call you back. This and that.
1622
01:07:21.250 --> 01:07:24.389
And then this started happening. Now, I am not a studio.
1623
01:07:24.409 --> 01:07:26.659
I'm not Disney. I'm not Paramount. I am a family
1624
01:07:26.699 --> 01:07:29.199
guy that has a mortgage, that has a family, that
1625
01:07:29.219 --> 01:07:30.719
has to put food on the table. So this is
1626
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:32.820
a big deal to me. These studios can recoup that.
1627
01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:35.519
A hundred grand is nothing to them. I'm a family
1628
01:07:35.539 --> 01:07:38.159
guy and I'm your friend. I'm the only one, the
1629
01:07:38.550 --> 01:07:41.829
only one that has stood by you through all this crap.
1630
01:07:41.889 --> 01:07:44.190
When Lala like wasn't going to be my friend anymore.
1631
01:07:44.250 --> 01:07:46.369
When nobody was going to talk to me anymore because
1632
01:07:46.389 --> 01:07:48.190
I was friends with you, Randall, because I thought you
1633
01:07:48.210 --> 01:07:50.739
were a nice guy. You were nice to me. And
1634
01:07:50.820 --> 01:07:53.389
we were making money together. And I thought, okay, this
1635
01:07:53.550 --> 01:07:56.369
is okay. But then, you know, and all these... I
1636
01:07:56.409 --> 01:07:58.750
would get hit up all the time by LA Times.
1637
01:07:58.909 --> 01:08:00.110
All these people, do you want to do a story
1638
01:08:00.150 --> 01:08:02.050
on Randall? Did you hear about Randall? People telling me,
1639
01:08:02.309 --> 01:08:04.309
do not invest with Randall. Do not. I didn't get
1640
01:08:04.349 --> 01:08:06.429
my money back. Multiple people. There's another one that just
1641
01:08:06.449 --> 01:08:09.039
came out last week. Another guy, I can't say his name,
1642
01:08:09.340 --> 01:08:12.059
from Miami said, he's delinquent and paying me now. And
1643
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:15.480
this was last week. And I'm like, you know, people,
1644
01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:19.289
you know... they told me and I didn't listen, but
1645
01:08:19.329 --> 01:08:22.430
I thought I saw a good human being in there somewhere.
1646
01:08:22.449 --> 01:08:25.770
I don't know how, but I just thought, you know,
1647
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:28.439
this is another way of making some extra income, you know,
1648
01:08:28.619 --> 01:08:32.579
and to pay my bills. And I got screwed. He
1649
01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:34.560
hasn't paid me back yet. And he's doing another movie
1650
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:36.739
and he's like, well, I'll pay you on the next movie. Well,
1651
01:08:36.779 --> 01:08:38.600
you're on movie number two and I haven't seen a check.
1652
01:08:38.659 --> 01:08:40.619
And every time now his lawyer won't get back to
1653
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:42.899
my lawyer. And it's just, it's just a mess. Like
1654
01:08:43.260 --> 01:08:45.239
just pay me what you owe. You're taking from a
1655
01:08:45.390 --> 01:08:47.659
family guy. Like I'm trying to pay my mortgage. I
1656
01:08:47.659 --> 01:08:50.020
ain't trying to go buy planes and buy cars. I'm
1657
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:51.819
trying to put food on the table. You know, I'm
1658
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:53.670
making a little extra money so my kid can go
1659
01:08:53.689 --> 01:08:55.930
to college. Like, stuff like that. Like, I just don't
1660
01:08:55.970 --> 01:08:57.449
get it. so where did the money.
1661
01:08:57.350 --> 01:09:01.060
Go right so you guys met as i did through
1662
01:09:01.260 --> 01:09:04.640
social stuff right but you at the foursome you guys
1663
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:07.460
hung out a lot right and and had a lot
1664
01:09:07.500 --> 01:09:10.600
of fun and everything and i remember when we hung
1665
01:09:10.739 --> 01:09:13.880
out that night and went to the coachella party right
1666
01:09:14.270 --> 01:09:16.869
That was really fun. And you were like, no, we're
1667
01:09:16.909 --> 01:09:21.109
looking at property together out here and everything. So when
1668
01:09:21.180 --> 01:09:24.779
you first heard about the photo of him walking across
1669
01:09:24.819 --> 01:09:28.619
the street with the girls, did you think for sure
1670
01:09:28.699 --> 01:09:32.340
he's cheating? Because I didn't. I actually thought this is
1671
01:09:32.380 --> 01:09:34.460
just someone got a photo of him walking across with
1672
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:38.100
some girls, like, you know, but then all of a
1673
01:09:38.119 --> 01:09:39.659
sudden it was just like, all of a sudden it
1674
01:09:39.739 --> 01:09:42.890
all came out after that. But part of that, I thought, No,
1675
01:09:42.989 --> 01:09:46.369
this is just, you know, people wanting to insert themselves
1676
01:09:46.409 --> 01:09:47.069
in this story.
1677
01:09:47.210 --> 01:09:48.970
I think so too. I don't know what we're allowed
1678
01:09:48.989 --> 01:09:50.869
to say, what we're not allowed to say, especially with
1679
01:09:50.949 --> 01:09:52.529
him owing me money. I don't want to get myself
1680
01:09:52.569 --> 01:09:54.970
in trouble here because I'm trying to like, I'm just
1681
01:09:55.010 --> 01:09:56.189
trying to recoup my money here.
1682
01:09:56.250 --> 01:09:56.890
Yeah.
1683
01:09:57.189 --> 01:09:59.630
But, you know, I was wrong. I was 100% wrong.
1684
01:09:59.710 --> 01:10:02.310
I trusted the wrong person. I thought, you know, we
1685
01:10:02.350 --> 01:10:04.489
had a good business deal going. And like I said,
1686
01:10:04.510 --> 01:10:06.430
it was working for a while. And like I said,
1687
01:10:06.449 --> 01:10:08.390
I don't know what he did with my money. I
1688
01:10:08.390 --> 01:10:09.899
don't know what he's done with anybody's money. I don't
1689
01:10:09.909 --> 01:10:11.380
know where it went. It might be in his house.
1690
01:10:11.449 --> 01:10:13.989
I think he over... and tries to live out of
1691
01:10:14.029 --> 01:10:17.439
his means, you know, to look cool, I guess. I
1692
01:10:17.779 --> 01:10:20.119
don't know, but it's just really disturbing, you know, especially
1693
01:10:20.899 --> 01:10:23.939
you have daughters. You have three daughters. And guess what?
1694
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:25.640
The internet is never going to go away. They are
1695
01:10:25.659 --> 01:10:27.100
going to read this one day. They are going to
1696
01:10:27.149 --> 01:10:29.210
see this. You're going to have to explain yourself one day.
1697
01:10:29.810 --> 01:10:32.310
Just like I'm going to have to explain myself one day. But,
1698
01:10:33.149 --> 01:10:35.109
you know, I just don't know how.
1699
01:10:35.789 --> 01:10:39.710
I'm just remembering a story that happened. So he... I
1700
01:10:39.750 --> 01:10:44.939
was seeing... something come, someone let me know that, uh, this,
1701
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:49.659
this girl that has a podcast to Dana, she was $ 25, 000
1702
01:10:49.140 --> 01:10:52.039
sunglasses from Beverly Hills. Anyway, she started to, now she
1703
01:10:52.060 --> 01:10:53.500
has a podcast, but at the time she was just
1704
01:10:54.100 --> 01:10:58.520
spewing on Instagram and she was saying Randall owed her $ 5, 000
1705
01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:02.510
for many years ago. And anyway, then she came on
1706
01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:04.189
my show and he saw that she was coming on
1707
01:11:04.210 --> 01:11:06.170
my show and he, and this is what everybody's good.
1708
01:11:06.449 --> 01:11:09.510
Like we're at Lala's in love with them. There's, I
1709
01:11:09.529 --> 01:11:10.949
don't know if it was before or after COVID, but
1710
01:11:10.989 --> 01:11:12.449
I was planning on going to the wedding.
1711
01:11:12.590 --> 01:11:12.850
Okay.
1712
01:11:12.869 --> 01:11:17.569
So something was, you know, and, and I go, I go, listen,
1713
01:11:18.100 --> 01:11:19.920
I did talk to her. I did not put it
1714
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:24.800
on the show, but can you give her her 5,000 back?
1715
01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:25.159
Yeah.
1716
01:11:25.220 --> 01:11:27.260
You do owe her from this thing that she did.
1717
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:29.920
It was a Cannes Film Festival thing that, you know,
1718
01:11:29.939 --> 01:11:32.100
he promised that he would get this room on a
1719
01:11:32.140 --> 01:11:34.340
yacht and then like, just, just blew her off. But
1720
01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:38.100
that also said, okay, I've got your money. Come to
1721
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:40.239
the office. Did a run around to get the money.
1722
01:11:40.260 --> 01:11:41.720
Oh, that's how I got my first portion. I had
1723
01:11:41.739 --> 01:11:43.500
to do the run around. Meet me here. Then we
1724
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:45.159
get there. Meet me there. No, meet me there. No,
1725
01:11:45.180 --> 01:11:46.739
meet me here. Now I don't have the money. Come
1726
01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:48.720
to my house. Like every time I was going out,
1727
01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:50.380
it was a cat and mouse game.
1728
01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:52.579
Chasing me around. And I was like, that's kind of shitty,
1729
01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:54.300
like the run around. And I go, I'm going to
1730
01:11:54.340 --> 01:11:57.819
put you together. And, you know, if you give her
1731
01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:00.069
the money, like she's never going to talk about it.
1732
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:01.170
I'm never going to talk about it.
1733
01:12:01.199 --> 01:12:01.399
Right.
1734
01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:03.649
She's not rolling in and she would like the money.
1735
01:12:03.850 --> 01:12:04.010
Right.
1736
01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:06.739
So he did. And that was that she went on
1737
01:12:06.779 --> 01:12:08.939
to do her thing. We never talked about it. So
1738
01:12:08.979 --> 01:12:11.170
then when all this stuff started to happen, you know,
1739
01:12:11.250 --> 01:12:14.109
I was like, wow. And then there was a Megan
1740
01:12:14.130 --> 01:12:18.590
Weaver story, Megan Weaver and Jeff Lewis did interior design
1741
01:12:18.609 --> 01:12:21.229
for his home and he owed her money. And not
1742
01:12:21.250 --> 01:12:25.229
until she talked about it, I think on Jeff Lewis, finally, then,
1743
01:12:25.449 --> 01:12:27.300
then they got the money, but it was still not
1744
01:12:27.340 --> 01:12:30.920
the full amount that she was supposed to get. And
1745
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:34.340
it was like, Okay. So, okay. Some people, you know,
1746
01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:36.880
it's not cool when someone has a pattern like that,
1747
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:38.319
but it is a pattern. It's like.
1748
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:40.760
And I'm just as the blame. I'm the idiot that
1749
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:42.979
didn't do my research. And I was, I'm the sucker
1750
01:12:43.020 --> 01:12:44.880
that said, you know what? He wouldn't do that to me.
1751
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:47.279
He's never done that to me. And then he did
1752
01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:47.600
it to me.
1753
01:12:47.859 --> 01:12:50.479
But I mean, he is so charming and he is like,
1754
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:53.659
and that's what it is. It's charming and fun and. and,
1755
01:12:53.939 --> 01:12:55.659
you know, and great and all that.
1756
01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:57.760
Yeah. But I'm not, like I said, he borrows mostly
1757
01:12:57.779 --> 01:13:01.470
from studios and, you know, multimillionaires. I just thought, Hey,
1758
01:13:01.510 --> 01:13:03.170
this is maybe a nice way to make some extra
1759
01:13:03.189 --> 01:13:06.090
money while, you know, I've looked for my next thing.
1760
01:13:06.130 --> 01:13:07.909
And he promised me this and he's, he goes, my
1761
01:13:07.949 --> 01:13:09.449
mom's doing it too. You're going to be on the
1762
01:13:09.470 --> 01:13:11.289
same scale as my mom and this and that. So
1763
01:13:11.310 --> 01:13:12.939
I was like, okay, I mean, he's not gonna do
1764
01:13:12.979 --> 01:13:14.840
this to me. I think we're really close friends. We
1765
01:13:14.899 --> 01:13:16.180
go out to dinner, you know, he tells me a
1766
01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:19.260
lot of things. And I just thought, I guess I
1767
01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:21.560
thought wrong. I was just an idiot. Like everybody else.
1768
01:13:21.619 --> 01:13:22.619
I just, I believed them.
1769
01:13:22.659 --> 01:13:25.020
And I thought when, when it broke and, and Lala
1770
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:26.279
was no longer with him.
1771
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:26.680
Yeah.
1772
01:13:27.060 --> 01:13:29.970
You still had this business going on. So you're like,
1773
01:13:30.020 --> 01:13:32.050
so you're like, okay, well let me just like roll
1774
01:13:32.090 --> 01:13:33.489
this a little bit longer.
1775
01:13:33.510 --> 01:13:35.869
I know. And I was like, well, I'm sorry. Obviously
1776
01:13:35.909 --> 01:13:37.989
I have to finish this because he, and while I
1777
01:13:37.989 --> 01:13:39.310
was like, you're never going to get your money back.
1778
01:13:39.350 --> 01:13:42.170
That guy's always everybody in, in, in their brother right now.
1779
01:13:42.189 --> 01:13:43.710
And I'm like, I have to try. I go, I
1780
01:13:43.750 --> 01:13:45.689
have to try. I go, I feel like he's, he
1781
01:13:45.750 --> 01:13:47.029
knows me a little bit better than that. I'm not
1782
01:13:47.050 --> 01:13:49.359
a studio. I'm, his friend. I'm the guy that he
1783
01:13:49.380 --> 01:13:50.500
would call in the middle of the night when he
1784
01:13:50.539 --> 01:13:53.460
has problems. I thought we were closer. I just, I just,
1785
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:55.090
I don't know. I guess I'm, I'm just an idiot.
1786
01:13:55.189 --> 01:13:57.149
I'm an idiot because I thought we were friends. I
1787
01:13:57.170 --> 01:13:57.510
really did.
1788
01:13:57.529 --> 01:13:59.350
I also think he's one of those people that makes
1789
01:13:59.750 --> 01:14:02.020
several people feel like they're that person that calls in
1790
01:14:02.029 --> 01:14:03.520
the middle of the night because he was calling me.
1791
01:14:04.539 --> 01:14:06.060
Hey, what do you think I should do? Do you
1792
01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:07.619
think I should do this? I look up to you.
1793
01:14:07.640 --> 01:14:08.770
I'm like, you look up to me. It made me
1794
01:14:08.819 --> 01:14:11.050
feel good. I'm like, yeah, I haven't heard it. You're
1795
01:14:11.090 --> 01:14:12.510
older than I am. And you're a fan. I just
1796
01:14:12.529 --> 01:14:14.550
thought that was really cool for him to write. And
1797
01:14:14.569 --> 01:14:17.029
I was falling into his manipulation. I was like, okay.
1798
01:14:17.310 --> 01:14:19.189
All right. He's like, okay, I'll get you this next month.
1799
01:14:19.229 --> 01:14:20.590
And it made me feel good. So I'm like, okay,
1800
01:14:20.609 --> 01:14:22.130
it bought him some more time. Hey, you want to
1801
01:14:22.170 --> 01:14:23.729
put me in? And what he does is he puts
1802
01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:25.770
you in a movie. And then, okay, that buys him
1803
01:14:25.789 --> 01:14:27.149
more time so he doesn't have to pay you back.
1804
01:14:27.189 --> 01:14:28.069
And that's what he was doing.
1805
01:14:28.229 --> 01:14:29.750
Did you get put in some movies?
1806
01:14:29.810 --> 01:14:31.399
Oh, yeah. I got put in a couple of them.
1807
01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:33.720
And he was like, you know, he's like, okay. He's like, well, okay,
1808
01:14:33.739 --> 01:14:34.859
this will buy me some time so I don't have
1809
01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:36.600
to pay him for another month. But I never got
1810
01:14:36.619 --> 01:14:38.539
paid for many of those movies either. Are you going
1811
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:39.819
to pay to act in them? Oh, no.
1812
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:40.420
No.
1813
01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:42.560
I was supposed to. Never did.
1814
01:14:42.579 --> 01:14:43.159
Oh, no.
1815
01:14:43.180 --> 01:14:45.060
They didn't turn in the paperwork to SAG or whatever.
1816
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:46.659
There was some BS reason and I was just kind
1817
01:14:46.699 --> 01:14:46.880
of like.
1818
01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:48.239
Just the runaround.
1819
01:14:48.260 --> 01:14:50.439
Just the runaround. Just add it to the list of
1820
01:14:50.659 --> 01:14:52.399
BS things you've done to me. I'm like, how do
1821
01:14:52.439 --> 01:14:54.829
you do this to somebody? Especially he was like. A
1822
01:14:54.869 --> 01:14:56.949
guy who's like has a family and, you know, putting,
1823
01:14:57.090 --> 01:14:59.340
you know, that's, that's the part I have a problem with.
1824
01:14:59.380 --> 01:15:01.680
Like I said, people do it to studios all the time,
1825
01:15:01.979 --> 01:15:04.000
but you do it to your friend, like your actual
1826
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:05.439
friend who you call in the middle of the night
1827
01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:08.020
when you have a problem. Like you are just, that's
1828
01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:08.739
a bad person.
1829
01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:10.960
I hope you get your money back.
1830
01:15:11.060 --> 01:15:11.359
Me too.
1831
01:15:11.619 --> 01:15:14.520
I hope because you're, You know, saying it publicly, you've
1832
01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:15.960
jumped to the top of the list.
1833
01:15:16.270 --> 01:15:17.859
I just don't know what else to do anymore. Like,
1834
01:15:17.899 --> 01:15:20.250
I don't know. You know, it's not like it's 20 grand.
1835
01:15:20.289 --> 01:15:22.869
It's there. Even that, even it is, it's money, you know, it's.
1836
01:15:23.109 --> 01:15:24.449
And it's like, well, you know, you're not going to
1837
01:15:24.489 --> 01:15:25.310
keep the secret.
1838
01:15:25.390 --> 01:15:26.810
I'm not going to keep the secret anymore. And like,
1839
01:15:26.850 --> 01:15:28.890
I told him that I go, listen, Randall, like, you know,
1840
01:15:28.930 --> 01:15:30.989
people are coming to me. I told him this. I go,
1841
01:15:31.149 --> 01:15:33.189
LA times is coming to me. This Hulu documentary is coming.
1842
01:15:33.229 --> 01:15:36.170
Everyone's coming to me to talk. And I go, just
1843
01:15:36.210 --> 01:15:39.420
pay me the money and then I'll go away. Okay.
1844
01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:41.079
He's like, well, you got to talk to my lawyer.
1845
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:42.439
Now my lawyer talks to his lawyer. Now his lawyer
1846
01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:44.289
is ghosting mine. So it's just kind of like- But again,
1847
01:15:44.329 --> 01:15:46.130
why do you have to talk to his lawyer? Like
1848
01:15:46.170 --> 01:15:47.210
why does a lawyer have to be involved? Yeah, so
1849
01:15:47.229 --> 01:15:48.750
you're going to pay more money. Basically, instead of just
1850
01:15:48.770 --> 01:15:50.270
paying it off, you got to go through another lawyer.
1851
01:15:50.289 --> 01:15:52.550
Like you have to pay these people. Lawyers want their money.
1852
01:15:52.590 --> 01:15:54.489
They're going to come after it. So you're paying more
1853
01:15:54.550 --> 01:15:56.149
money for this. I think it was just- Just do
1854
01:15:56.170 --> 01:15:56.710
the right thing.
1855
01:15:56.770 --> 01:15:58.369
It was just, again, a runner. It was just a
1856
01:15:58.409 --> 01:15:58.789
buy time.
1857
01:15:58.909 --> 01:16:00.529
And I know he's got the money. He's got the
1858
01:16:00.750 --> 01:16:03.760
three or four cars that he's got. He's got the
1859
01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:05.600
house in Bel Air. So he's got it there. He's
1860
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:07.720
got it. It's not like he's- And he's got a
1861
01:16:07.739 --> 01:16:10.800
new girlfriend that he's buying handbags for and going to Miami. Like,
1862
01:16:10.819 --> 01:16:13.529
so it's not like he's like hurting by any means
1863
01:16:13.930 --> 01:16:15.649
or he's, I don't know what he's doing. I don't know.
1864
01:16:15.670 --> 01:16:16.270
I don't know.
1865
01:16:16.430 --> 01:16:19.930
I mean, that must be so frustrating. And I know
1866
01:16:19.949 --> 01:16:21.789
people see it and I know people see it on
1867
01:16:21.850 --> 01:16:25.460
a non-public basis. Leveled and they just lent money to
1868
01:16:25.500 --> 01:16:27.439
their friend and they just see their friend on Instagram.
1869
01:16:27.460 --> 01:16:27.819
Exactly.
1870
01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:28.279
Exactly.
1871
01:16:28.380 --> 01:16:30.619
And you're like, you still owe me a grand bitch.
1872
01:16:30.699 --> 01:16:34.880
Like I get it now on your scale. It's like, wow.
1873
01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:37.260
$ 75, 000. It's a lot of money. Yes, it is. You know?
1874
01:16:37.319 --> 01:16:38.840
And I got 25. And like I said, it was
1875
01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:41.100
a cat and mouse game to get that, you know.
1876
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:43.560
It was just the exhaustion of chasing.
1877
01:16:43.619 --> 01:16:45.060
I had Brittany in the car. He was like, meet
1878
01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:46.699
me at this place. Meet me at Ralph's. Meet me
1879
01:16:46.720 --> 01:16:49.319
at Gelson's. Meet me at the cafe. And then I
1880
01:16:49.340 --> 01:16:51.060
get the check and it's scribbled and it's not right.
1881
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:51.930
And then I had to go to the bank and
1882
01:16:51.939 --> 01:16:53.779
I had to redo it again because he, he, He
1883
01:16:53.850 --> 01:16:55.689
did it scribbly so nobody can know it. And I
1884
01:16:55.689 --> 01:16:57.250
have to go back and do it again. And I'm like...
1885
01:16:57.729 --> 01:16:58.310
It was just like.
1886
01:16:58.329 --> 01:17:00.449
An all plan. All a plan. Of course.
1887
01:17:00.909 --> 01:17:04.229
Why? Why? Why? I don't understand. This is why you
1888
01:17:04.270 --> 01:17:05.409
have a bad name for yourself.
1889
01:17:05.449 --> 01:17:07.340
It's the run around that I think is the rudest
1890
01:17:07.380 --> 01:17:08.039
part of it all.
1891
01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:08.520
Really.
1892
01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:08.899
You know?
1893
01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:11.699
The wasting your time of like that. Because I'm like...
1894
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:12.039
I know.
1895
01:17:12.180 --> 01:17:12.380
I mean.
1896
01:17:13.149 --> 01:17:15.850
i've heard of what people do with that you know they.
1897
01:17:15.670 --> 01:17:17.550
Do borrow peter to pay paul type of thing.
1898
01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:19.699
Yeah or on the check it's the you know the
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wrong the wrong date or the wrong thing or that
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01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:24.180
yeah where they're like wow this is too much we
1901
01:17:24.220 --> 01:17:25.739
can't do that can you just you know and it's
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01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:29.680
like oh man god my stupid assistant you.
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01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:30.930
Know yeah exactly let's.
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01:17:30.770 --> 01:17:35.590
Talk about croy and uh kim zolciak well croy burman
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01:17:35.609 --> 01:17:38.710
the burmans are getting divorced we know now that they
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01:17:38.890 --> 01:17:42.140
both Filed. He, in fact, filed first. Then she filed,
1907
01:17:42.149 --> 01:17:44.840
but she probably alerted TMZ, so it looked like she did.
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01:17:45.659 --> 01:17:48.199
She had photographs of her picking up the kids. They
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01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:50.659
both want the kids. Custody of the kids.
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They seem so happy together on social media, no?
1911
01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:56.210
Well, of course. I think what is really hard is
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01:17:56.229 --> 01:18:01.489
when your whole livelihood, especially them, is about, we're this
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01:18:01.550 --> 01:18:04.850
happy family. They had the reality show about their happy family.
1914
01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:05.100
Right.
1915
01:18:06.670 --> 01:18:10.090
Oh, she was always doing the long diatribe of like
1916
01:18:10.149 --> 01:18:12.850
how great he is and that he does everything for
1917
01:18:12.890 --> 01:18:16.569
her and everything. And then, of course, on top of it, too,
1918
01:18:17.140 --> 01:18:22.260
overspending and also part of their persona is being super
1919
01:18:22.579 --> 01:18:26.340
luxury spenders. You know, their their persona was not let
1920
01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:28.949
me show you the best deals at Costco. Their persona
1921
01:18:28.989 --> 01:18:33.069
was the latest handbag, the Louis Vuitton luggage, everything. I
1922
01:18:33.529 --> 01:18:35.380
just saw a clip of where both she and the
1923
01:18:35.449 --> 01:18:38.779
oldest girl are talking about how they spend, now that
1924
01:18:38.819 --> 01:18:42.319
the other girl, Ariana, is into getting her hair and
1925
01:18:42.340 --> 01:18:46.010
makeup done. She's like, we spend $ 4, 000 to $ 8, 000 a
1926
01:18:46.069 --> 01:18:48.050
day on glam for the three of us. We all
1927
01:18:48.090 --> 01:18:51.029
wear wigs now, which I'm like, what? are two girls
1928
01:18:51.069 --> 01:18:53.779
that don't have you know hair issues wearing a fucking
1929
01:18:53.859 --> 01:18:57.619
seven thousand dollar wig to go and do an instagram
1930
01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:00.079
post like where do you go from there like when
1931
01:19:00.100 --> 01:19:03.479
you start you're at that level then Where are you
1932
01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:05.760
going to go? What are your thoughts on them?
1933
01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:08.380
To be honest, Kim's always been so kind to Brittany
1934
01:19:08.420 --> 01:19:10.319
and I. Every time we see her at a problem event,
1935
01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:12.659
she's just like, I love you guys. She always seems
1936
01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:14.760
like a real person to me. I don't know what
1937
01:19:14.779 --> 01:19:17.279
everybody else sees, but every time I do a post
1938
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:19.420
on Instagram, she messaged me, love you guys. You guys
1939
01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:22.359
look great. When I heard that this came out, I
1940
01:19:22.399 --> 01:19:25.020
messaged her, I hope everything's okay. Did she respond? Thinking
1941
01:19:25.050 --> 01:19:28.569
about you. Yeah, she's like, thanks, sugar. I don't know
1942
01:19:28.590 --> 01:19:30.569
what goes on at my enclosed doors. We don't. And
1943
01:19:30.590 --> 01:19:32.529
I just see how she acts to me. I'm a
1944
01:19:32.550 --> 01:19:35.329
very like, face value person. How you act to me
1945
01:19:35.529 --> 01:19:37.329
is how I'm going to treat you. And like, she's
1946
01:19:37.350 --> 01:19:39.270
been nothing but kind to us, especially at all the
1947
01:19:39.310 --> 01:19:41.010
Bravo cons and all that. She's the first one to
1948
01:19:41.050 --> 01:19:43.029
be like, I love you both. Brittany's so great. She's
1949
01:19:43.069 --> 01:19:44.729
so beautiful. You guys are so good together. She's just
1950
01:19:44.770 --> 01:19:48.220
so kind and sweet to us. I just hope the
1951
01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:49.859
best for her. I, like I said, this was a
1952
01:19:49.899 --> 01:19:52.760
shock when I did see this because of the persona
1953
01:19:52.779 --> 01:19:55.020
they put on Instagram. I just thought, man, this is
1954
01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:57.649
a great couple. Like he's always out in the backyard
1955
01:19:57.689 --> 01:19:59.470
doing stuff kind of like me. I was like, well, okay,
1956
01:19:59.510 --> 01:20:01.899
this is, I hope people don't think about this like
1957
01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:02.420
that with us.
1958
01:20:02.420 --> 01:20:04.579
Well, I mean, I definitely think both things are true.
1959
01:20:04.619 --> 01:20:06.039
I think they're both good parents.
1960
01:20:06.060 --> 01:20:06.159
Yeah.
1961
01:20:06.180 --> 01:20:06.960
And I think all of that.
1962
01:20:06.979 --> 01:20:09.100
Do you think, so it seems like it's pretty, it's amicable.
1963
01:20:09.270 --> 01:20:10.829
No, it's not amicable at all.
1964
01:20:11.010 --> 01:20:13.710
I thought maybe, okay, I thought, this is what I'm thinking. No.
1965
01:20:13.829 --> 01:20:16.850
From what I see, it's a financial thing. So there's that, okay,
1966
01:20:16.869 --> 01:20:19.619
maybe we should split to ease the pain or no?
1967
01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:21.319
I don't know.
1968
01:20:21.340 --> 01:20:23.600
I mean, Do you think he's more mad at her
1969
01:20:23.619 --> 01:20:24.619
or she's more mad at him?
1970
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:28.920
Okay. Everyone's speculating. They're like, is this fake? Is this
1971
01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.039
to get on another show? Is it for her to
1972
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:31.340
have a deal?
1973
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:33.619
Well, she's going back to Housewives.
1974
01:20:33.779 --> 01:20:36.350
Today, the latest article from a very close friend from
1975
01:20:36.390 --> 01:20:39.909
Page Six says she is not at all thinking about
1976
01:20:39.970 --> 01:20:44.670
going back to Housewives. She shared with friends months and
1977
01:20:44.689 --> 01:20:47.720
months prior that she was thinking about leaving. Yes, the
1978
01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:50.659
money stuff didn't help, but that's not the only reason.
1979
01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:50.779
Right.
1980
01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:53.600
And that there is no other guy because there was
1981
01:20:53.659 --> 01:20:56.850
rumors that there was some guy in L.A., some rich, older,
1982
01:20:57.649 --> 01:21:00.510
you know, big papa type guy. This person saying, no,
1983
01:21:00.550 --> 01:21:02.670
that's not true. I don't think anybody knows but them.
1984
01:21:02.829 --> 01:21:03.029
Right.
1985
01:21:03.289 --> 01:21:08.109
But, you know, hopefully I can't imagine that you would
1986
01:21:08.130 --> 01:21:10.520
do a fake divorce when you have four minor kids
1987
01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:13.739
that are elementary age. Yeah. To get on TV. So
1988
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:16.210
I don't believe it's fake. I can't, because you can't
1989
01:21:16.250 --> 01:21:18.510
tell your four kids that are like in fourth and
1990
01:21:18.569 --> 01:21:20.649
fifth and sixth grade. Hey, if anyone asks you about
1991
01:21:20.670 --> 01:21:22.369
our divorce, just say, hey, I'm sad.
1992
01:21:22.510 --> 01:21:22.729
Yeah.
1993
01:21:22.750 --> 01:21:24.649
Because mom and daddy are actually getting back together and
1994
01:21:24.670 --> 01:21:27.050
we're going to be a daddy, father party. Like there's
1995
01:21:27.130 --> 01:21:27.260
no way.
1996
01:21:27.270 --> 01:21:29.439
I just hope people are nice to the kids because
1997
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:31.500
like I said, they're at that age where they're just
1998
01:21:31.539 --> 01:21:34.199
kind of like, what is going on? Like they don't
1999
01:21:34.260 --> 01:21:35.399
understand it. I just hope they're okay.
2000
01:21:35.420 --> 01:21:37.560
When people think that it's fake, I'm like, I can't,
2001
01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:40.739
you can't do that with four other people. If it
2002
01:21:40.779 --> 01:21:41.739
was just the two of you.
2003
01:21:41.890 --> 01:21:42.050
Right.
2004
01:21:42.390 --> 01:21:45.310
Then maybe you can have a weird like cahoots, you know, like, okay.
2005
01:21:45.930 --> 01:21:46.930
Like the Stallones.
2006
01:21:47.229 --> 01:21:47.430
Right.
2007
01:21:47.569 --> 01:21:52.069
They said they were getting divorced. Sly Stallone and his wife.
2008
01:21:52.569 --> 01:21:54.109
And it was like, wow, they're getting divorced after all
2009
01:21:54.130 --> 01:21:57.289
these years. They have three gorgeous daughters. Then it turns out, no,
2010
01:21:57.310 --> 01:21:58.909
we're not getting divorced. And by the way, we have
2011
01:21:58.949 --> 01:22:03.130
a reality show and we filmed this. Okay. Now you
2012
01:22:03.170 --> 01:22:06.250
have three 25 year old daughters, whatever, that want to
2013
01:22:06.270 --> 01:22:08.869
be the Kardashians to them. You could go, we're going
2014
01:22:08.890 --> 01:22:11.449
to fake a divorce. We're going to film this. We're
2015
01:22:11.470 --> 01:22:13.109
going to act like dad's really mad. Then he's going
2016
01:22:13.130 --> 01:22:14.970
to come back. This is going to get us PR.
2017
01:22:15.149 --> 01:22:16.220
And then the show is going to be a hit.
2018
01:22:16.310 --> 01:22:18.260
Like you could say it to your 25 year old
2019
01:22:18.279 --> 01:22:20.119
kids that this is like not a hundred percent true.
2020
01:22:20.159 --> 01:22:20.819
Don't freak out.
2021
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:21.039
Right.
2022
01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:24.340
You can't, you can't fake this with like, that would
2023
01:22:24.359 --> 01:22:26.760
be so cruel to do to a little kid. So I,
2024
01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:31.529
unfortunately it sounds like this is not amicable.
2025
01:22:31.550 --> 01:22:32.310
Oh, okay.
2026
01:22:32.409 --> 01:22:35.409
But maybe, maybe there is a chance they could get
2027
01:22:35.449 --> 01:22:38.600
back together, but, I would say no.
2028
01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:43.090
That's sad. Anytime people go through divorces, it sucks, especially
2029
01:22:43.100 --> 01:22:46.850
when there's kids involved, especially being a parent now. You
2030
01:22:46.869 --> 01:22:48.590
just want to protect your kids at all costs.
2031
01:22:49.590 --> 01:22:55.250
So I watch everything on Housewives and all that and
2032
01:22:55.310 --> 01:22:57.199
all your shows. And I just want to say about
2033
01:22:57.260 --> 01:22:59.659
this show last night, Real Housewives of Atlanta, which I
2034
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:02.880
thought was great for the future of Bravo shows because
2035
01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:05.529
I've been begging for it forever. And especially if you
2036
01:23:05.550 --> 01:23:08.630
come back to Vanderpump and the future of Vanderpump. I
2037
01:23:08.649 --> 01:23:11.119
have been saying, I just want to watch you guys
2038
01:23:11.899 --> 01:23:17.279
live your next chapter, whether, you know, you're launching something,
2039
01:23:17.300 --> 01:23:19.859
you're working on this, whatever. You can still go to
2040
01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:22.949
sir and like have a meal or whatever. But like,
2041
01:23:23.069 --> 01:23:24.550
we don't have to pretend that all of a sudden
2042
01:23:24.850 --> 01:23:27.270
Jax Taylor is going to go back to swing some,
2043
01:23:27.449 --> 01:23:30.100
you know, shakes and cream and Brittany's going to pick
2044
01:23:30.149 --> 01:23:30.770
up a hostess.
2045
01:23:30.899 --> 01:23:31.189
I know.
2046
01:23:31.399 --> 01:23:32.760
We don't need to see that.
2047
01:23:32.779 --> 01:23:34.220
It's a little weird when people are showing up to
2048
01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:36.039
surf for their shift driving $ 100, 000 cars.
2049
01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:39.220
Yes. And they live in a $ 3 million home. Yeah.
2050
01:23:39.300 --> 01:23:42.359
That started to happen like towards, like, you know, before
2051
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:44.319
we got married, like two seasons before we got married,
2052
01:23:44.659 --> 01:23:46.960
people were starting to be like, come on. You know,
2053
01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:49.539
because everyone's buying homes and like this, and it was
2054
01:23:49.579 --> 01:23:52.340
just hard to like, play the act anymore. And like,
2055
01:23:52.380 --> 01:23:54.079
we couldn't even work anymore. It was getting to the
2056
01:23:54.100 --> 01:23:55.979
part was just too crazy in the restaurants. We couldn't,
2057
01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:56.859
even if we wanted to.
2058
01:23:56.880 --> 01:23:58.840
So it's like, everyone's going to be like, I need
2059
01:23:58.859 --> 01:23:59.140
a photo.
2060
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:01.560
I at least had a bar in between myself and people.
2061
01:24:01.579 --> 01:24:04.359
The girls that are waiting tables are like right there.
2062
01:24:04.380 --> 01:24:07.619
So it's like, they can be touched, grabbed, whatever. So yeah,
2063
01:24:07.939 --> 01:24:09.899
I agree with you a hundred percent. We need to
2064
01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:12.500
be able to break the fourth wall. That's okay.
2065
01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:14.100
So what they did on the show about breaking the
2066
01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:16.920
fourth wall, which I thought was great is the girls
2067
01:24:16.939 --> 01:24:21.090
were talking about how, um, they, they, Alex said BravoCon.
2068
01:24:21.109 --> 01:24:23.949
We saw each other at BravoCon. And then next week's episode,
2069
01:24:24.289 --> 01:24:27.869
they're showing clips from BravoCon. Like some beef happens at BravoCon.
2070
01:24:27.890 --> 01:24:30.130
We're going to actually see it, then talk about it
2071
01:24:30.189 --> 01:24:32.310
on the show. And I'm like, I love that.
2072
01:24:32.350 --> 01:24:32.960
Yes, I love it too.
2073
01:24:32.970 --> 01:24:34.029
So here's my idea.
2074
01:24:34.050 --> 01:24:34.649
Okay.
2075
01:24:34.949 --> 01:24:37.920
You're welcome, Andy Cohen and Bravo.
2076
01:24:37.939 --> 01:24:39.180
Okay.
2077
01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:42.520
Jax comes back on the show. You guys go to BravoCon,
2078
01:24:42.699 --> 01:24:45.720
but you don't stay at Caesars. You stay in some
2079
01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:49.159
sick house in, There's, you know, ask Josh Altman to
2080
01:24:49.220 --> 01:24:49.979
find you a house.
2081
01:24:50.100 --> 01:24:50.420
Okay.
2082
01:24:50.579 --> 01:24:52.979
To rent for the day or rent for the weekend.
2083
01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:55.520
And you guys all stay there and you bring your
2084
01:24:55.590 --> 01:25:00.189
cameras there and we can film that, you know, and
2085
01:25:00.210 --> 01:25:03.689
then we're not taking footage from watch what happens live.
2086
01:25:03.890 --> 01:25:06.170
They have their own footage, but you, we see what
2087
01:25:06.210 --> 01:25:08.729
happened in Vegas while you guys are in Bravo con.
2088
01:25:08.750 --> 01:25:09.390
It's a great idea.
2089
01:25:09.609 --> 01:25:10.029
Thank you.
2090
01:25:10.050 --> 01:25:10.569
It's a great idea.
2091
01:25:10.590 --> 01:25:10.750
Fuck.
2092
01:25:11.680 --> 01:25:13.600
That's a great idea because you have to find the
2093
01:25:13.659 --> 01:25:15.819
next thing because people are starting.
2094
01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:17.520
We know you're going to BravoCon. We know that you
2095
01:25:17.579 --> 01:25:19.840
have launches and that you have businesses and you have
2096
01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:20.539
clothing lines.
2097
01:25:20.579 --> 01:25:22.520
And the Kardashians did that. After a while, you're kind
2098
01:25:22.539 --> 01:25:24.859
of like, listen, you've got to have to break that wall.
2099
01:25:24.899 --> 01:25:27.680
People are not stupid. They're like, okay, they're not doing this.
2100
01:25:27.699 --> 01:25:30.220
Can we just actually see what they're doing? Because we're
2101
01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:32.479
still going to watch. We're still going to watch. Regardless
2102
01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:34.729
if they're slinging drinks or not, we're still going to watch.
2103
01:25:34.810 --> 01:25:37.149
So let us show you what we're actually working on.
2104
01:25:37.390 --> 01:25:39.630
And as a reality show fan, nothing gets me wetter
2105
01:25:39.649 --> 01:25:41.590
than when the producer walks in with a, you know,
2106
01:25:41.630 --> 01:25:43.289
with a COVID mask on and says, can I ask
2107
01:25:43.310 --> 01:25:46.750
a question? And I'm like, yes. And he asked Candy
2108
01:25:46.789 --> 01:25:48.970
about this, like shooting that happened at one of her restaurants.
2109
01:25:49.010 --> 01:25:51.630
He's like, Hey, can we talk about this? And they're like,
2110
01:25:51.710 --> 01:25:54.100
they're like, no, we can't. Cause there's something legal going on,
2111
01:25:54.140 --> 01:25:56.399
but they kept all that in. And I'm like, that's
2112
01:25:56.460 --> 01:25:57.220
juicy as fuck.
2113
01:25:57.399 --> 01:26:00.539
I love when the interviews, you know, the, the, the
2114
01:26:00.579 --> 01:26:03.100
confessionals when the producers like says, you know, Tom, did
2115
01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:05.220
you really do like, I love that because you're breaking
2116
01:26:05.260 --> 01:26:06.000
that barrier.
2117
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:06.180
Yeah.
2118
01:26:07.029 --> 01:26:08.170
And I wish they would do more of that.
2119
01:26:08.189 --> 01:26:13.640
I just think that's the next evolution of the reality shows.
2120
01:26:13.680 --> 01:26:15.850
Especially when a show's been on for six plus years,
2121
01:26:15.869 --> 01:26:16.210
seven plus years.
2122
01:26:16.329 --> 01:26:17.949
And we want to stick with the people we know.
2123
01:26:18.090 --> 01:26:18.529
Right.
2124
01:26:18.630 --> 01:26:22.529
It's very hard. To break, like, you know, a whole new,
2125
01:26:22.569 --> 01:26:24.869
you know, there's been other shows that have been like yours. Right.
2126
01:26:24.949 --> 01:26:27.420
There's one now, I think, too. I think the producer
2127
01:26:27.460 --> 01:26:30.739
of Vanderpump Rules left and started Southern Hospitality.
2128
01:26:31.260 --> 01:26:31.840
Okay, so there's.
2129
01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:34.920
Okay, there's a couple. They're using the formula that Vanderpump
2130
01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:36.760
used and they're trying to do it on. But the
2131
01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:39.189
problem with that is, the problem with that is you're
2132
01:26:39.239 --> 01:26:42.409
taking people that aren't as good a core group of friends.
2133
01:26:42.609 --> 01:26:44.930
You're casting. What they did is they go and they're like,
2134
01:26:44.970 --> 01:26:46.890
who's working at a restaurant? She's pretty. She's pretty. He's
2135
01:26:46.909 --> 01:26:49.670
good looking. This is, let's make a show. It won't work.
2136
01:26:50.149 --> 01:26:51.829
And it didn't work. I watched a little of that.
2137
01:26:51.930 --> 01:26:54.029
Couldn't get into it. I just watched this other show,
2138
01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:59.619
Martha's Vineyard, where they basically do summer house, but it
2139
01:26:59.859 --> 01:27:01.920
seems to be all cast. They try to act like
2140
01:27:01.939 --> 01:27:02.439
they're kind of friends.
2141
01:27:02.539 --> 01:27:04.920
And like, and like people know that they'll, they'll watch
2142
01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:06.739
shows like, okay, we got to amp this up more.
2143
01:27:06.779 --> 01:27:08.329
We got to be more mad than we should be.
2144
01:27:08.350 --> 01:27:10.649
And like, you don't have to do that. You could just,
2145
01:27:10.770 --> 01:27:13.590
just be who you are. It comes out organically. You
2146
01:27:13.609 --> 01:27:15.689
don't have to be like, you just met somebody and
2147
01:27:15.710 --> 01:27:17.090
you're already starting a fight with her five minutes. Like,
2148
01:27:17.109 --> 01:27:19.649
come on. Like, you're not starting. It's just, I think
2149
01:27:19.689 --> 01:27:22.729
people just see these shows that are so successful and
2150
01:27:22.770 --> 01:27:24.569
they're arguing and stuff goes on. People need to know
2151
01:27:24.609 --> 01:27:26.590
that these people have been friends or in these shows
2152
01:27:26.949 --> 01:27:29.069
for years. You don't need to jump out the gate
2153
01:27:29.100 --> 01:27:31.819
and start an argument with Susie on episode one. Like
2154
01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:32.850
it doesn't happen that way.
2155
01:27:32.859 --> 01:27:35.140
Well, and it's, it's trying, you know, and it's trying
2156
01:27:35.180 --> 01:27:37.380
to do that. Like, um, I'm going to go back.
2157
01:27:37.399 --> 01:27:39.210
It's very try hard. It's very forcing it.
2158
01:27:39.420 --> 01:27:41.779
Well, I always say like when friends was a hit,
2159
01:27:41.899 --> 01:27:45.109
the actual show friends, I was going out for auditions
2160
01:27:45.170 --> 01:27:48.100
and stuff. And I must've gone out on like, six
2161
01:27:48.180 --> 01:27:51.460
different pilots that was copycat of Friends. But instead of
2162
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:53.420
Friends being in New York, it was Friends in Seattle,
2163
01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:57.380
Friends in Alaska, Friends in San Francisco. Do you remember
2164
01:27:57.479 --> 01:27:59.300
any other show but Friends?
2165
01:27:59.479 --> 01:27:59.640
No.
2166
01:28:00.140 --> 01:28:00.300
No.
2167
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:00.699
No.
2168
01:28:01.380 --> 01:28:05.319
It's hard. People try to copy the formula and it's
2169
01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:08.359
like everything, it's lightning in a bottle. Everything has to,
2170
01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:11.960
it's just like why a sitcom like Everyone Loves Raymond
2171
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:15.420
is a hit forever. It's because the writers all were
2172
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:18.409
best friends. They all, like, actually when I did an
2173
01:28:18.449 --> 01:28:22.140
episode of Frasier and I, they were like, oh, we're
2174
01:28:22.189 --> 01:28:24.260
on the lucky lot. And I go, what? We're, we're
2175
01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:26.479
on the lucky, um, studio. There was, there was like
2176
01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:28.840
one where like, I love Lucy and cheers and all
2177
01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:31.140
this stuff. So they, they got that. So they had
2178
01:28:31.180 --> 01:28:34.029
that going, just, just Hollywood luck. But then I remember
2179
01:28:34.050 --> 01:28:36.869
I'm waiting and I'm, and I'm like, why isn't everyone
2180
01:28:36.890 --> 01:28:39.430
in their dressing rooms? And they're like, oh, we don't have,
2181
01:28:39.670 --> 01:28:41.899
we don't have rooms. Literally the room was this big.
2182
01:28:42.140 --> 01:28:44.819
This is where we hang out. And all the cast
2183
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:48.960
of Frasier was hanging out, talking about their weekends and
2184
01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:52.060
what they're doing. And they were all friends. And then
2185
01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:54.199
they would go do their thing. They weren't all sitting
2186
01:28:54.220 --> 01:28:57.380
in their trailer on their phone being alone. Right. And
2187
01:28:57.420 --> 01:29:00.199
the same thing is like the modern day sitcom is
2188
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:03.640
the Vanderpump, you know, or the Kardashian, whatever. And it
2189
01:29:03.720 --> 01:29:04.739
has to be that.
2190
01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:06.140
That dynamic.
2191
01:29:06.199 --> 01:29:08.819
It has to be that. You cannot just reenact it.
2192
01:29:08.819 --> 01:29:11.560
You can try. And that's exactly what I talk about
2193
01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:14.890
when I do these, when I go to and do
2194
01:29:14.909 --> 01:29:17.310
these talks about the show and how, why it's so successful.
2195
01:29:17.470 --> 01:29:19.930
That's exactly the reason right there. That's exactly the reason
2196
01:29:19.989 --> 01:29:22.670
why it's successful because you took something that was preexisting
2197
01:29:23.050 --> 01:29:25.300
and you took something that's, We're such a good group
2198
01:29:25.340 --> 01:29:28.000
of friends already that nobody's acting. This is who we are.
2199
01:29:28.060 --> 01:29:29.779
The cameras show up, you turn them on and then
2200
01:29:29.819 --> 01:29:32.020
we turn them off. It's just, we are who we are.
2201
01:29:32.060 --> 01:29:34.340
And it's just, it's already all there. It's organic. It's
2202
01:29:34.359 --> 01:29:36.800
not forced. It's not, okay, we have to make this.
2203
01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:38.960
This has to happen. This has to happen. It just,
2204
01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:42.090
it just happens. And it's just, there's no, there's no
2205
01:29:42.310 --> 01:29:46.529
forcefulness and it's just, it worked. It worked. And you know, that's,
2206
01:29:46.710 --> 01:29:48.050
I tell everybody that and the people that are at
2207
01:29:48.149 --> 01:29:50.189
USC and film school, why does your show work? Why
2208
01:29:50.250 --> 01:29:52.050
is your show on for 10 plus years? And this
2209
01:29:52.069 --> 01:29:54.779
show only lasted a year that because of that. Because
2210
01:29:54.819 --> 01:29:58.020
of the chemistry and how organic everything is. And people
2211
01:29:58.039 --> 01:29:59.560
just get so desperate. Like, oh, we can make a
2212
01:29:59.579 --> 01:30:01.239
show like that. It's a lot easier. You watch a
2213
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:03.479
show like we can do that. No, you can't. You can't.
2214
01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:07.149
You've got to find something that's already there. So when
2215
01:30:07.170 --> 01:30:08.949
I tell the cast, the people that are going to
2216
01:30:08.989 --> 01:30:11.930
school to be in casting or in picking up pilots,
2217
01:30:12.369 --> 01:30:16.130
find somebody or find a group of people that are preexisting,
2218
01:30:16.210 --> 01:30:18.289
that have been friends for a very long time, that
2219
01:30:18.310 --> 01:30:20.770
a core group that this already exists. This is easy.
2220
01:30:20.909 --> 01:30:23.560
This is simple. They can go in. They get everybody's dynamic.
2221
01:30:23.579 --> 01:30:25.539
They can tell that they've been friends for years. And
2222
01:30:25.579 --> 01:30:28.939
this could be a show. This could be an actual show.
2223
01:30:29.020 --> 01:30:30.760
It's just too hard when you start casting. It's just
2224
01:30:30.779 --> 01:30:33.119
too hard. And people are smart. They figure it out
2225
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:35.369
real quick what's true and what's not.
2226
01:30:35.850 --> 01:30:38.060
Well, the audience is very sophisticated now.
2227
01:30:38.069 --> 01:30:38.210
Yes.
2228
01:30:38.510 --> 01:30:40.550
The audience knows how. With all the reality shows now
2229
01:30:40.590 --> 01:30:43.930
and all the social media right after it and the
2230
01:30:44.170 --> 01:30:47.729
reunions and all the people that have their own podcasts
2231
01:30:47.750 --> 01:30:50.350
about all these shows, you can't fool anybody anymore.
2232
01:30:50.369 --> 01:30:50.609
Right.
2233
01:30:50.649 --> 01:30:52.470
You really can't. You really can't.
2234
01:30:52.899 --> 01:30:56.350
Well, before you go, tell everybody what's going on with,
2235
01:30:56.479 --> 01:30:59.069
so people have a chance to watch some of your
2236
01:30:59.109 --> 01:31:00.430
Peacock episodes. Yeah.
2237
01:31:00.449 --> 01:31:02.199
It's a bummer we're not doing anymore, but they gave
2238
01:31:02.279 --> 01:31:06.210
us the opportunity to do three episodes. Um, we basically
2239
01:31:06.250 --> 01:31:08.489
are just recapping the show. So you're basically watching the
2240
01:31:08.510 --> 01:31:10.890
show with Brittany and I recapping it.
2241
01:31:10.979 --> 01:31:12.170
Everyone is loving it.
2242
01:31:12.149 --> 01:31:14.340
They really did. I wasn't sure what people were going
2243
01:31:14.359 --> 01:31:15.899
to think and they loved it.
2244
01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:17.840
Watch them and let Jax know. I know.
2245
01:31:17.899 --> 01:31:19.460
I would love to do more of those. I think
2246
01:31:19.500 --> 01:31:21.579
there was kind of a budgetary thing and, uh, they
2247
01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:24.800
wanted it. The production company was amped. And I think, uh,
2248
01:31:25.300 --> 01:31:26.920
I don't know if Bravo shut it down or I
2249
01:31:26.939 --> 01:31:28.439
don't know if anybody should, I don't know. I don't
2250
01:31:28.460 --> 01:31:30.430
know if it was a budgetary thing, but it was
2251
01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:32.010
just really awesome. And we were so blessed to be
2252
01:31:32.029 --> 01:31:33.529
part of that. And just thank you to Peacock for
2253
01:31:33.550 --> 01:31:34.770
having us do that. But it's a lot of fun.
2254
01:31:34.810 --> 01:31:36.350
It was really funny. And the best part about it
2255
01:31:36.430 --> 01:31:38.050
is all I had to do was come downstairs and
2256
01:31:38.069 --> 01:31:39.689
jump on my couch and go to work. It was great.
2257
01:31:40.050 --> 01:31:41.529
It was great. Everybody was a lot of fun and
2258
01:31:41.850 --> 01:31:44.039
basically talking about people and not people having to talk
2259
01:31:44.079 --> 01:31:45.760
about me. It was great. You know, I get to
2260
01:31:45.779 --> 01:31:48.720
pick everyone's life apart. It was nice. And it was
2261
01:31:48.779 --> 01:31:50.819
actually shocking. Like I said, as you guys know, I
2262
01:31:50.859 --> 01:31:52.619
don't really watch the show. So that's the first time
2263
01:31:52.659 --> 01:31:56.180
I was watching episodes of, of Vanderpump rules. And for
2264
01:31:56.199 --> 01:31:58.079
the first time and just being like, Oh my God,
2265
01:31:58.159 --> 01:32:00.340
Oh my God. I was actually feeling like a fan
2266
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:00.819
for a second.
2267
01:32:00.880 --> 01:32:01.220
Yeah.
2268
01:32:01.340 --> 01:32:03.649
It was interesting. And it was just an, an awe.
2269
01:32:03.739 --> 01:32:06.090
And I became, I can became a fan again, especially
2270
01:32:06.109 --> 01:32:08.529
of Katie. I became a fan of Katie, you know? And, um,
2271
01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:10.800
and James, I just really liked it.
2272
01:32:10.939 --> 01:32:13.520
I had fun doing it. They're both great this season.
2273
01:32:13.699 --> 01:32:14.159
They really are.
2274
01:32:14.220 --> 01:32:16.520
And I didn't realize getting to know them like we
2275
01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:17.239
haven't before.
2276
01:32:17.399 --> 01:32:20.109
I've always bumped heads with Katie too in the past. And, um,
2277
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:22.510
I really saw her this year and, and I felt
2278
01:32:22.550 --> 01:32:24.270
bad what she had to go through with, with Tom
2279
01:32:24.329 --> 01:32:27.890
and shorts. And, uh, it's just, it was a messy situation, but, uh,
2280
01:32:28.069 --> 01:32:30.010
I think Katie's doing a lot better and I'm definitely
2281
01:32:30.029 --> 01:32:30.689
a fan for sure.
2282
01:32:31.010 --> 01:32:31.229
Yeah.
2283
01:32:31.350 --> 01:32:31.510
Yeah.
2284
01:32:31.789 --> 01:32:33.789
And then you guys have your show, your podcast.
2285
01:32:33.829 --> 01:32:34.029
Yes.
2286
01:32:34.109 --> 01:32:37.470
When reality hits, um, it's awesome. We're just talking, you know,
2287
01:32:38.020 --> 01:32:40.340
everything in life, uh, being on reality, being married and
2288
01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:43.090
having kids on reality. Uh, basically it's Brittany making me
2289
01:32:43.119 --> 01:32:46.090
cry every episode. No, I'm kidding. Uh, it's just, it's
2290
01:32:46.109 --> 01:32:47.149
just a lot of fun. We're going to talk to
2291
01:32:47.229 --> 01:32:49.149
other villains on reality because let's be honest, if you
2292
01:32:49.170 --> 01:32:52.210
don't have a villain on reality show, reality show doesn't exist.
2293
01:32:52.369 --> 01:32:53.930
It doesn't work. You got to have the bad guy.
2294
01:32:53.949 --> 01:32:55.170
And I'm actually giving people.
2295
01:32:55.289 --> 01:32:56.510
Don't you have another show coming out?
2296
01:32:57.649 --> 01:33:00.079
Oh, I do, but we can't talk about that. Oh, okay. I, I,
2297
01:33:00.189 --> 01:33:01.880
you know what? Everybody else gets to talk about their
2298
01:33:01.909 --> 01:33:03.920
new shows coming out and mine. I'm the one that
2299
01:33:03.939 --> 01:33:06.750
shot mine first. And this is all coming out before mine.
2300
01:33:06.869 --> 01:33:08.609
It's out there, though.
2301
01:33:08.930 --> 01:33:09.510
Is it out there?
2302
01:33:09.710 --> 01:33:13.829
Okay, then you don't talk. This is my knowledge. You're
2303
01:33:13.869 --> 01:33:17.880
doing some type of show, like a Big Brother competition something,
2304
01:33:18.380 --> 01:33:22.500
and it's like villains, former villains in life and in
2305
01:33:22.539 --> 01:33:28.279
reality shows get together to do something. That's what I've heard. Anyway,
2306
01:33:28.300 --> 01:33:31.369
it sounds juicy. It sounds juicy, and if that show,
2307
01:33:31.590 --> 01:33:34.369
if I dreamt that up, You, someone take that idea too,
2308
01:33:34.409 --> 01:33:36.720
but I don't think of it. Anyway, that sounds, that
2309
01:33:36.729 --> 01:33:37.180
sounds good.
2310
01:33:37.340 --> 01:33:39.399
So, yeah. So, but the reality show, or I'm sorry,
2311
01:33:39.420 --> 01:33:42.520
the reality show, the, uh, the, uh, podcast right now
2312
01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:43.899
is a lot of fun. We're having so much fun
2313
01:33:43.939 --> 01:33:46.079
with it and it's, it's nice to be able to, uh,
2314
01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:49.180
to clarify up a lot of stuff that's happened over
2315
01:33:49.199 --> 01:33:50.859
the years. You know, used to be able to, I
2316
01:33:50.979 --> 01:33:52.899
film a show and then I have to clarify everything
2317
01:33:52.939 --> 01:33:55.239
up six months later down the line doing a talk show.
2318
01:33:55.260 --> 01:33:57.180
Now I get to clarify my mistakes up on a
2319
01:33:57.199 --> 01:34:00.060
weekly basis, which is nice. Um, but, uh, yeah, it's
2320
01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:01.520
a lot of fun. And like, I'm excited to talk
2321
01:34:01.539 --> 01:34:03.689
to other villains from other shows. Because like I said,
2322
01:34:03.989 --> 01:34:06.369
villains are the ones that make the shows happen, I think.
2323
01:34:06.510 --> 01:34:07.750
And I think it's nice to give them a little
2324
01:34:07.770 --> 01:34:10.130
bit of a platform and explain why they're such villains.
2325
01:34:10.229 --> 01:34:12.140
So it's exciting. It's a lot of fun. And it's
2326
01:34:12.189 --> 01:34:14.479
just another thing that Brittany and I are doing together.
2327
01:34:14.539 --> 01:34:15.329
And we're enjoying it.
2328
01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:17.180
And then you're just busy with Cruz.
2329
01:34:17.340 --> 01:34:18.880
Busy with Cruz. Busy being a dad.
2330
01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:19.960
So gorgeous.
2331
01:34:20.140 --> 01:34:21.659
Thank you. Thank you. He's such a cutie.
2332
01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:24.109
I go, oh, my God. He is so good looking.
2333
01:34:24.729 --> 01:34:27.710
And Lala's like, Cruz is too and has a jawline.
2334
01:34:27.729 --> 01:34:28.109
Yeah.
2335
01:34:29.989 --> 01:34:32.020
They always say like his jawline. I know. I know.
2336
01:34:32.039 --> 01:34:34.899
I mean, no, all the kids are so cute. I
2337
01:34:34.939 --> 01:34:35.840
love seeing all the kids.
2338
01:34:35.979 --> 01:34:37.960
Almost time to think about another one pretty soon.
2339
01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:41.899
I think I, well, I, you know, I just, I,
2340
01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:44.189
I told you, did I ever tell you how you
2341
01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:47.149
get pregnant with the second one besides having sex? You
2342
01:34:47.189 --> 01:34:50.050
do sex. Listen, I just heard from another person. It's
2343
01:34:50.069 --> 01:34:53.710
called the Heather McDonald method. I've gotten hundreds of people
2344
01:34:53.810 --> 01:34:57.310
that have said they've tried every other things. My method
2345
01:34:57.350 --> 01:35:00.210
is free, but it's just, People don't think about it.
2346
01:35:00.229 --> 01:35:02.170
They start peeing on the sticks. When am I ovulating?
2347
01:35:02.229 --> 01:35:05.470
All that stuff. What you do is after you finish
2348
01:35:05.489 --> 01:35:09.090
the period, you have sex every other day for 10
2349
01:35:09.090 --> 01:35:13.380
to 14 days. Not every day. Every other day. I'm
2350
01:35:13.439 --> 01:35:13.920
telling you.
2351
01:35:14.100 --> 01:35:15.060
Every other day after?
2352
01:35:15.460 --> 01:35:16.199
The period ends.
2353
01:35:16.500 --> 01:35:16.699
Yeah.
2354
01:35:16.899 --> 01:35:18.899
Not before the period. The period ends. She's done with
2355
01:35:18.939 --> 01:35:19.300
her period.
2356
01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:19.579
All right.
2357
01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:23.060
Then every other day for two weeks, you have sex.
2358
01:35:23.079 --> 01:35:23.939
It's a lot of sex.
2359
01:35:24.260 --> 01:35:25.199
But it's every other day.
2360
01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:26.539
And.
2361
01:35:27.420 --> 01:35:30.390
Try it because I just heard it from another girl
2362
01:35:30.970 --> 01:35:34.489
today that said, I can't believe that it worked because
2363
01:35:34.510 --> 01:35:37.050
we've tried a bunch of other things. Really? And it
2364
01:35:37.109 --> 01:35:39.229
really works because I had trouble getting pregnant with my
2365
01:35:39.289 --> 01:35:41.470
second just because you're busier with the one.
2366
01:35:41.489 --> 01:35:41.909
Right.
2367
01:35:42.430 --> 01:35:47.550
And I was like 34 or whatever. So I was like, okay,
2368
01:35:47.569 --> 01:35:49.020
it was a little harder than when I got pregnant
2369
01:35:49.029 --> 01:35:52.939
with her first. And this girl told me it. And
2370
01:35:52.960 --> 01:35:54.539
I was like, all right, done.
2371
01:35:55.479 --> 01:35:55.779
Done.
2372
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Wow.
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And that's why I spread the word of it. Cause it's, Hey,
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if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but it's worth
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trying for a month.
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I'll try it. Yeah. I'll try it.
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You're ready for it.
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Why not?
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Start your whole modeling agency. Thank you guys.
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Follow Jack for having me.
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01:36:09.979 --> 01:36:12.319
Oh, so good seeing you. So juicy.
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01:36:12.579 --> 01:36:13.100
So juicy.
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01:36:15.779 --> 01:36:18.260
Well, what a great interview. As you guys know, please
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go to heathermcdonald.net and get your tickets to my live show.
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01:36:21.619 --> 01:36:24.130
And if you can't go to the Vegas show, We
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are so excited to say we are doing another live stream.
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This will be the third one I've done of a
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live show. They're always well-received. Everyone is always thrilled that
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they did it. Right now, you just go to heathermcdoll.net,
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01:36:36.649 --> 01:36:39.739
click on that, and get your ticket so you're ready
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to watch it. You have several days to watch it.
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It's a great price, and it'll be like you're in Vegas.
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So if you can't see me in person in Vegas,
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make sure you get that and that you don't forget. Otherwise,
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you'll be really sad, and you'll be crying about it,
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and there's nothing I can do. Thank you.
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Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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is so organized, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay, hair
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care for her aunt, and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
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But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
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an early bird, buying one present a week from now
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till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
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01:37:18.810 --> 01:37:23.109
in-store or online from macaulay.ie. For home delivery or free
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01:37:23.220 --> 01:37:23.880
click and collect.
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So easy.
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Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.