FIVEAA Breakfast with Will & Stacey - 26 October 2026

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Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
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Speaker 2: Live from Highmarsh Square, it's 5AA Breakfast. Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
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Speaker 3: Eight after six, good morning to you. Welcome to Monday on 5AA Breakfast, 26th of October. It's getting late in the year now. Sorry about the cold weather. Got a text from the general manager over the weekend saying, Weighing the blame squarely at my feet for declaring the season broken. The good times and the warmth here. Good times and warmth. Good times here, warmth not so much here.
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Speaker 4: The quote was, you can put your jumpers away now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did say that. And here I am in a jumper this morning. How embarrassing. Coming up on the program, it is nearly Halloween. A little bit later... This week, people will celebrate Halloween. There's some really interesting data about this. We're going to be spending more than ever, but fewer people are going to be spending on it than last year. The average spend is up. There's a lot of different threads to this that sort of tell a bit of a story about where Australia is at the moment in terms of our retail spending. The haves and the have-nots. We're going to get into that in the context of Halloween after 6.30 this morning. Also, Phillip Island, the very last MotoGP, a lot of eyes on this, sold-out crowd. Went along to Phillip Island. No racing. We think the weather was bad here. Even worse there. And so the last MotoGP at Phillip Island wasn't this year. It turns out it was last year. Not a great way to go out. We'll be talking with 7U Sport Report Eddie Summerfield about that this morning. Timmy G stand-up show Saturday night. Roaring success from what I heard. We'll hear from the man himself and wrap the weekend in sport. Lots to talk about real estate-wise. And Neil Diamond fans, get excited... Because a little bit later today, we'll be discussing the Neil Diamond musical that is coming here to Adelaide. And Stacey, you were saying you've heard amazing things about this show.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, great reviews of it interstate. And I think a lot of people were wondering whether it would come here or not. So it's great to see it is making a stop in Adelaide next year.
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Speaker 3: It will be at Her Majesty's Theatre on the 23rd of May. So we'll be talking about that a little bit later this morning.
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Speaker 5: If you bought tickets to the MotoGP on Phillip Island, do you get your money back?
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Speaker 6: Surely.
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Speaker 3: Surely. It's a great– I bet we've got listeners. I saw messages on social media from South Australians who were just saying, oh, this is gutting.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: We make the trip over every year. And if you are from a family that did that, let us know. Surely, if there's no racing, they can't. Can they?
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Speaker 5: I mean, there would still be costs involved. They'd still have to do a lot of setup and have a lot of personnel and people.
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Speaker 3: I suppose if you go to the cricket and the day gets rained out, you don't get a refund.
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Speaker 8: No.
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Speaker 3: No. How devastating.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Imagine the flights. You don't see a second of the action.
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Speaker 5: Debbie's just messaged saying no. I wonder if that was answering my question or something else, Debbie.
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Speaker 10: Let me know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let us know. 04808 1395. You can call us on 8223 0000. Yesterday I went to the art gallery to finally go to an exhibition that we had been promoting for a long time here on 5AA, the Monet to Matisse exhibition.
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Speaker 4: How was it?
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Speaker 3: You know what was my standout beyond the fact it was spectacular? That exhibition has been going on since July. Yesterday was the 25th of October. You could just about not move for the number of people in there.
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Speaker 11: Really?
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Speaker 3: I have no scientific insight beyond my own anecdotal evidence. I can't imagine there's been a more successful exhibition at the Art Gallery in recent years.
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Speaker 11: Wow.
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Speaker 3: I just can't. We're four months into this thing and the entire place was packed and you could hear- American accents. You could hear people from, people who clearly travelled for it. And I'm such a, I'm no, I've got no idea about this stuff beyond I know what I like to look at and I just wander around and it's nice. I was chatting with one of the guys who works there, Carlo, terrific bloke, who was talking to me about some of the different artworks and whatnot. And he said this exhibition, he reckons, probably made its money back within the first two weeks and made the point that collection of artwork you'll never see again, certainly in Australia, but possibly never assembled that way anywhere in the world. Which I had no idea how significant it was. So impressive. It got me thinking as I was there, because I've got this theory that we as humans are always most impressed by other people doing things that we know we can't do. So, you know, playing sport or public speaking or art, for example. I've got no ability to do art. I sit there in awe of all this kind of stuff. So I thought we should celebrate. David and I never did this as a talker because neither of us can make anything. We want to celebrate the makers this morning on 8223 0000. Have you made something around your house? Do you make artwork? That obviously fits the bill too. Have you knitted every scarf in the household or the jumpers for grandkids or beanies or whatever it might be? Who among you makes things? Give us a call, 8223 0000. Shout out, maybe it was a one-off. Maybe you made your back deck, or maybe it's something you make every Christmas time, maybe baubles, whatever it might well be. Celebrating people who make things this morning.
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Speaker 4: My mother-in-law is a quilter.
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Speaker 3: A quilter?
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Speaker 4: And she makes beautiful quilts.
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Speaker 5: And when I first met my husband, he had a quilt from her, and- I got a quilt eventually and it's beautiful and it has pride.
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Speaker 4: Of place over our couch, on our couch.
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Speaker 5: So I use our quilt every night for my mother-in-law and Molly loves it and she made Molly one before she was born and she makes everyone special.
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Speaker 3: How long does it take to make a quilt?
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Speaker 4: Oh, months and months and months.
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Speaker 8: Wow.
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Speaker 5: And there's so much effort and each individual person square there is so much time and effort put into it it's not just a a square of fabric they're they're they tell a story each individual one and then eventually they all get put together and there's a there's a border and an edging and they're beautiful.
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Speaker 3: That is spectacular that's a great call stace not the accordion but you know what i mean 8223 0000 texas on 044808 1395 celebrating the makers this morning what is it you've made what is it you make every year uh tell it Have a little bit of a brag about what it is that you create. Grant has already called in, not on this subject. Grant says, Christy's Beach has a traffic situation this morning. Old South Road heading onto the expressway. There's traffic backed up.
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Speaker 12: Already?
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Speaker 3: For city bound.
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: City bound already?
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Speaker 3: Already.
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Speaker 4: It's just after six.
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Speaker 3: All right. Okay. 8223 0000, the number. We'll take a quick break and come back in a moment.
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Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: 80 minutes after six, celebrating the makers this morning. Went to the art gallery and was just always so impressed with how clever human beings are. I just admire the brilliance and skill that people have making all manner of things like Andrew. On the text line, it says, I built and installed a kitchen in my then-marriage home. It didn't help the marriage, but it did make the kitchen more functional. So, Andrew, brilliant. Thank you.
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Speaker 4: You win some, you lose some.
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Speaker 3: Frank in Birkenhead, your wife is a maker, Frank.
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Speaker 14: Yes, she is, mate. My dear wife, what she does, she knits beanies. for the poor or the down and outers or homeless, and all the proceeds, mate, goes to Save the Children Fund.
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Speaker 3: Oh, wow. Frank, that's brilliant, mate.
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Speaker 4: So thoughtful.
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Speaker 3: Well done.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, mate.
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Speaker 3: Good job. Good on your wife, Frank. What a wonderful person. Thank you for that. Let's go to Modbury. Ray, good morning.
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Speaker 16: Good morning. I belong to an amazing studio called Tea Tree Studio out at Golden Grove. It's a pottery studio. Wonderful work out there. They do wheel work, hand building. They have kilns.
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Speaker 17: Wow.
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Speaker 16: Pottery wheels, naturally. They teach people how to do pottery lessons. They involve themselves in exhibitions. Next month, they're having a Christmas market at the studio. Wonderful people, wonderful work.
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Speaker 3: Ray, so do you have things you use in your house that you've made yourself, pottery-wise, or are they too good to use?
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Speaker 16: Oh, goodness, too good to use?
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Speaker 13: No.
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Speaker 16: No, no, my work isn't porcelain. It's stoneware or earthenware clay. It's made with love, and it's used with love. At the moment, I have a very special dish that I use, my pasta dish.
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Speaker 15: I have mugs, bowls.
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Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 16: I have pottery around the house that I've collected from people. I have to stop now. I've run out of room.
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Speaker 15: I can't put any more pottery around the house.
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Speaker 3: You need to start a little shop, right?
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 16: No, no, no, no, no, no. I had my day for that.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 16: We've had our days of selling, and when you involve yourself in exhibitions... you naturally put your work up for sale.
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Speaker 11: Of course.
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Speaker 16: And sometimes it's with, you sell it and you don't really want to sell it. I made some emus, just emu heads to go in the garden and I put one into the exhibition for sale Put a high price on it, which I thought $ 150 was a high price, which it wasn't. The lady bought it. I went in to collect it. And where's my emu? No, we sold that. No, you can't sell that.
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Speaker 5: Oh, no.
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Speaker 3: You need to put a higher price on it.
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Speaker 16: Yes, Ray, you put your work in to sell. No, I didn't want to sell it.
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Speaker 3: Oh, right. That's a beautiful call, Ray. Lovely to chat with you. That's exactly the kind of thing we're hoping to hear about. You know, you might have been like Andrew and made your kitchen once, but other people are always making things. It's what you do for fun. Ray, that's great. We're getting so many texts through. Just quickly, we'll take Andrew in prospect, too. Good morning to you, Andrew.
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Speaker 13: Good morning.
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Speaker 11: I'm not like the other Andrew. I can't make anything. Yeah, but I was after a jumper with a cane on it for a young lad with autism. And so I came across this gentleman. And actually, it's jumpers and beanies and that. And he goes under the knit man. And yeah, so he just made it for me.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's handy. This is the good thing for people like you and I, Andrew, that don't make anything now. We are well connected with the people that skillfully can.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's never been easier to find people online or elsewhere to do the specific thing that you want them to do. So that's great. Someone here simply texted through, I make life difficult.
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Speaker 5: Maybe I'll put my hand up for that one as well. I was trying to think of things I make.
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Speaker 4: I try and cook. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. Maybe I just make life difficult.
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Speaker 3: I've heard your cooking is excellent.
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Speaker 18: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Someone here says the famous motto is, if you want something done right, do it yourself. My husband is a jack of all trades, has basically built our house with his bare hands. Also, our farmhouse from bare land. He has an amazing willpower and strength. That's a great text. I've got a mate who's a builder, and you go in his house, and every time you go there, there's something new. Did you have that? Did that little decking extension? Oh, you've just done that.
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Speaker 19: All right.
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Speaker 3: Was that front room? No, no, you just put on a front room. It's just amazing.
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Speaker 5: I love Ben's text as well. Good morning, Will and Stace. My mother is also a quilter. She made a beautiful, intricate quilt for our bed, and it was called the Baby Maker.
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Speaker 4: Not sure if it was the quilt, but a couple of years later, we had triplets.
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Speaker 3: Whatever works, I guess. Maybe the whole country needs one. Betty in Parafield Gardens, good morning.
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Speaker 7: Good morning.
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Speaker 3: How are you, Betty?
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Speaker 4: Hi, Betty.
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Speaker 15: Not too bad.
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Speaker 7: Yourself?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're well.
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Speaker 17: Good.
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Speaker 6: Good.
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Speaker 16: I'm just letting you know, I make little booties. Well, they're not little. They're for adults and all. I give them to the whole neighbourhood, my friends.
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Speaker 3: You give them to the whole neighbourhood, Betty? How many are you making?
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Speaker 16: I've got a bag full now.
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Speaker 7: I've got to get rid of them.
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Speaker 4: Oh, well, you're reminding me of my yaya, Betty.
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Speaker 5: I still have some booties from my yaya who passed away, I think, about 15 years ago now, but I still have her booties in my drawer.
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Speaker 7: I'm Greek.
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Speaker 11: Ah, there you go.
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Speaker 15: So, yeah.
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Speaker 13: I enjoy making them and I enjoy giving them.
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Speaker 3: How long does it take you to make a pair of booties, Betty?
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Speaker 16: I used to make three a day, but now I've got my hands not the best, so I only make one a day.
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Speaker 4: Good on you.
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Speaker 3: You're like industrialisation before it happened. That's a lot of booties for one person to be making every day.
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Speaker 16: I've got a whole bag full.
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
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Speaker 11: Bag full, yeah.
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Speaker 3: What are you going to do with the bag of booties that you've got, Betty?
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Speaker 18: I'll give them away.
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Speaker 7: I'll give them away.
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Speaker 3: Fantastic.
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Speaker 7: The chemist, when I go to the chemist.
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Speaker 3: The chemist.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, anywhere.
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Speaker 7: Anywhere I'll get rid of them.
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Speaker 13: I like to enjoy it.
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Speaker 16: I enjoy making them and I'll enjoy giving them away.
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Speaker 3: Betty, that is a beautiful call. Thank you. It's nice when people just want to share the.
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Speaker 10: Gift with everyone.
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Speaker 5: Love the idea of going to Betty's street and just saying hi to the neighbour, putting their bin out and the kids playing in the front yard and everyone's wearing a pair of her booties.
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Speaker 3: You just get booties. This news report has caught our attention.
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Speaker 12: One British pilot said it was an out-of-this-world experience which caused a near-miss mid-air. Shortly after take-off from London's busiest airport, he says the British Airways flight bound for New York encountered a UFO the size of four toasters, the drone flying in the opposite direction, about 50 feet above the plane's wing. The incident has been classed as an unknown object with nothing matching the description of... of the shiny silver object.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so a UFO sighting coming out of Heathrow. What do we think of the size of four toasters?
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Speaker 4: An unacceptable use of a size comparison.
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Speaker 3: I don't like it. Well, I think this is kind of uniform, isn't it, now? You have the size of a small dog, an Olympic swimming pool. You know, these are things that we're always using.
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Speaker 4: Ten Adelaide ovals.
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Speaker 3: Ten Adelaide ovals. Has anyone ever described something in toaster size before?
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Speaker 5: No, I don't like it because... What size toaster? Is it a two slicer? Is it a four slicer?
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Speaker 3: Is it a smeg?
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Speaker 4: Is it a smeg? And I've got a smeg and they're different sizes to the smaller smegs.
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Speaker 3: How big is this UFO?
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Speaker 5: You can get the side by side or you can get the four slices a long way instead of the two long slices.
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Speaker 4: No, I don't like this.
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Speaker 3: To give the pilot some cover, he'd already gotten off, you know, piling a plane. So this is someone with a lot of responsibility said he'd seen an alien. If he then described it as the size of four dual slice toasters... We really would have gotten fixated on the toast component of things, I think. What are other things that we use to compare size? Everything that's a small house animal, that always gets used. Adelaide Ovals, Olympic-sized swimming pools. Can you describe it? How many toasters is a car?
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Speaker 4: Well, it depends.
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Speaker 3: Is it an SUV? Okay, let's say your standard sedan. Toyota Corolla. Toyota Corolla. How many... How many toasters in a Toyota Corolla?
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Speaker 4: I'm going to say 68.
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Speaker 16: No?
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Speaker 4: You're looking at me like that's weird.
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Speaker 3: No, no, I don't know. I've never considered anything in toasters. What does it say about the world that a commercial airline pilot thought he saw a UFO and all we're talking about is toasters? I think we're all fatigued by it.
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Speaker 4: Rob's got a great call.
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Speaker 5: He said, I think the UFOs are a smeg marketing campaign for their new range.
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Speaker 3: I like that.
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Speaker 4: They are out of this world.
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Speaker 3: I like that. 9.5 degrees outside at the moment. Feels like 6.9. It's cold again. 19. Not so much rain around today. More of a drizzle. And then we're going to get some dry days. 20 tomorrow, 21 Wednesday, 25 Thursday. Before the rain returns on Friday, 24 and 0 to 9 millimetres of rain. Then maybe a drizzle around for Saturday and Sunday. 23, 27 Sunday. So it'll get warmer, but not quite what we experienced for the last week. Now, the other thing we've missed over the course of the last week was Tom Rean is back on deck this morning, which is great news. Gliderol garage doors over 50 years strong, all colours, all style. All street appeal, gliderol.com.au. Good morning to you, Rennie.
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Speaker 20: Good morning, Will and Stacey. Great to be back. Plenty of winners and losers over the weekend. In fact, a lot of losers. So I come bearing bad news, I'm sorry, this morning. We'll go through it. Adelaide 36ers, they've been better lately, but they were dreadful on the weekend. They got smashed. So they're a loser. Adelaide United. They were 1-0 up. They lost 2-1 yesterday against Sydney.
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Speaker 3: How about the goal they scored too? Did you see that Sydney trying to play out from the back and basically just passed it directly under the foot of the Adelaide striker?
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Speaker 20: It wasn't great, was it? It was not good. The Diamonds, they've lost the Constellation Cup against New Zealand. They're done.
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Speaker 3: I saw that. That's a disaster.
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Speaker 20: So that's horrible, isn't it? They're 3-0 down.
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Speaker 3: Do you have any winners this weekend, Renny? Because that sounds awful.
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Speaker 20: There's not many. I'll get to a couple, but there's more losers. The Crows W team lost. Man United, how bad are they going? Michael Carrick. So how often does this happen? And it's happened with Manchester United before. They had the interim manager, Michael Carrick, going brilliantly last season. Yeah, let's hire him. Let's get him. This season, they're 16th. It is a total washout. They've lost overnight 3-0 against Bournemouth. Their fans are ready to rip the joint down at Old Trafford.
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Speaker 3: They look like they turned the corner at the end of last year. Yes, they did.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, I totally agree. And I was one of those ones that said, I think they've got to appoint him. And it's been an unmitigated disaster so far. I think he's done. And Phillip Island. So we, of course, get the MotoGP. What a terrible final event. Washed out.
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Speaker 4: Do you know, do they get their money back if you bought tickets?
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Speaker 20: That's a great question. You would hope so.
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Speaker 4: Sue on the text line said she doesn't think so.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 20: Actually, I was talking to someone over the weekend, a guy called Chad, who I play with a bit at Tetra Gully, hosted the Broadview Footy Club Best and Fairest, and he's associated with them. He spent five grand on lift tickets. He can't get it back. He's just written it off.
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Speaker 10: He's tried, and.
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Speaker 20: He's been toing and froing. So speaking of money back, yeah, a lot of people. I wonder how many others are in the same boat. I think Dave from Alberton called over the weekend. Maybe to you last week.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've spoken to him. He definitely has bought tickets.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, he said he thought $ 400 was down the tube as well, didn't he? But he bought the really nice corporate tickets.
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Speaker 4: But I wonder if they're just waiting for an official decision on that.
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Speaker 6: Maybe.
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Speaker 4: But would you still want to go and see it if all the players aren't there?
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Speaker 21: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 3: And what protection do you have if they're not? Exactly.
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Speaker 20: Winners will. Port W, they won over the weekend. They beat Collingwood, so that was great. Slim finals.
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Speaker 3: Hope's still alive.
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Speaker 20: And Adam Bland. They had a Webex Australian Australasian PGA event here at Wollonga. They do a great job at Wollonga. Adam Bland, a South Aussie, won it, so that was nice for him. But a tough weekend for the winners.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was grim, Reddy.
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Speaker 20: That was grim.
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Speaker 3: Sorry about that.
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Speaker 20: It's got to get better from there.
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Speaker 3: If the teams don't win, I don't know what you're going to talk about. That's just the nature of the beast. Good to have you back on deck.
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Speaker 5: And sorry, just an update, Sam Datto, our Rev Head, Sunday ticket holders do get a full refund.
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Speaker 10: Okay.
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Speaker 4: Four-day ticket holders get a partial refund for the Sunday.
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Speaker 3: Oh, okay. Oh, that's not too bad then.
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Speaker 20: For Phillip Harlan.
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Speaker 3: Yep. If you go to watch the day of test cricket and it gets washed out, you don't get your money back, do you?
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Speaker 20: I don't think so.
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I was thinking that as a comparison. But that sounds like that's good if they will get their money back.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Go on, you're ready. Thanks, guys.
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Speaker 16: Knock down. Build two.
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Speaker 1: With Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes. They do it all for you.
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Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: 21 to 7, we've had a UFO report, but it's not the alien component of the report that has our attention this morning. Have a listen.
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Speaker 12: One British pilot said it was an out-of-this-world experience which caused a near-miss mid-air. Shortly after take-off from London's busiest airport, he says the British Airways flight bound for New York encountered a UFO the size of four toasters, the drone flying in the opposite direction, about 50 feet above the plane's wing. The incident has been classed as an unknown object with nothing matching the description of the shiny silver object.
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Speaker 3: So we're very intrigued by the four toasters description. And this is why. Oh, there you go. You've got the pink smeg toaster in the studio. That's good. That helps you visualize things if you're watching on Facebook or YouTube. It's the size of the alien UFO. You're right. It might not be an alien. It might just be, you know, Russian technology. Could be. Phil says a Toyota Corolla is about 1,400 kilos, a Smeg toaster is 2.4, therefore one Corolla equals 583.3 toasters. That's presuming, Phil, the pilot was making an assessment about the UFO's weight. Weight, yeah. It might have been about the dimensions, to which this texter says is approximately 1,450 standard-sized toasters to a standard-sized car.
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Speaker 4: What's a standard-sized toaster, though?
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Speaker 3: A great question.
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Speaker 4: Is it two or four slice?
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Speaker 3: I'm not equipped to answer these questions. I don't know. Someone else here says four toasters to one microwave. Oh, yeah? Is that like converting feet and inches to centimetres and metres?
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Speaker 4: I think that's a better use of an appliance.
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Speaker 3: So if the pilot had said it's a UFO about the size of a microwave.
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Speaker 4: The size of a microwave is pretty standard.
00:21:48
Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah, it's better than four toasters.
00:21:51
Speaker 4: In all new houses, there's a standard size cutout in the kitchen for a microwave.
00:21:55
Speaker 3: That's true. All right, I'll pay that.
00:21:57
Speaker 4: I would have liked that more than a toaster.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
00:22:01
Speaker 4: Well, Pat's done some maths.
00:22:03
Speaker 3: He has done some maths.
00:22:04
Speaker 5: Will, you're 9.47 smeg toasters.
00:22:07
Speaker 4: This is in height.
00:22:08
Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:22:09
Speaker 4: And I'm 8.3.
00:22:11
Speaker 3: I'm about a full toaster taller than you, which is what you've always said.
00:22:15
Speaker 11: Yeah, I have.
00:22:16
Speaker 4: You're right.
00:22:17
Speaker 3: Dave from Northgate on the text line says, a weather event has occurred that I don't think has ever happened before. All capitals... in Australia besides Darwin have had rain on the same day in the last 24 hours. Oh, there you go. Is that Ben Jordan's music? We need our stats man on to that. Stat. Naish says, guys, what's the collective noun for a group of toasters? I think this has gone too far. A burn of toasters. A burn of toasters. Let's talk about Halloween. It's coming up this weekend, and the Australian Retail Council have done some research that I think this, in a nutshell, tells the story about the budget of Australian households and the experience of various sections of Australia during a period of what we have inaccurately referred to as uniformly a cost-of-living crisis. Because for some, it's a crisis. For others, it's an inconvenience. The Retail Council say 4.4 million people plan to celebrate themselves or through children for halloween this year it's actually 400 000 fewer than the last time they asked people participation has fallen from 18 to 21 is halloween losing its luster no i think it's it's a cost thing total spending is forecast to increase two percent so we've got 400 000 fewer people we're going to be spending more on halloween 510 million the average spend among those celebrating is rising 13.6% to $ 117 being the average spend that people are spending on Halloween. So what does that tell us? It probably tells us that the people that aren't participating are those that are really struggling, that aren't even buying the plastic spider or the illegal cobweb, depending on what council you live in at the moment. And those that are into it are really getting more into it than they have in the past. Fleur Brown from the Australian Retail Council joins us now. Fleur, good morning to you.
00:24:07
Speaker 22: Good morning.
00:24:08
Speaker 3: Does that all add up to it being still a... Is it still a boon for retailers or is it not having the same impact it's had in previous years?
00:24:19
Speaker 15: It's definitely dipped back a little in terms of participation, but as you noted, overall, there's a higher expenditure for people who are participating. Now, of course, that can mean many things. There's rising.
00:24:31
Speaker 15: Inflation, rising costs of doing business. So it doesn't necessarily mean that there's bigger margins for retailers in this tough economy. What we do see, though, in the numbers is that 18 to 34-year-olds are the largest age group taking part and they're spending more than everyone else. So that signals, you know, a lot of those would not be those with kids, signals that the rise of this as an event and not just a a kids and lollies type celebration, so more Halloween parties, that kind of thing, adults getting into the action.
00:25:05
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay.
00:25:06
Speaker 4: That's surprising.
00:25:07
Speaker 5: I would have thought it would be kids getting into it, but if a kid gets into it, their parent has to, right?
00:25:12
Speaker 15: Absolutely. Look, it's absolutely a mix of both, but perhaps the surprising part of it is that you've got those younger kids Younger cohorts also just getting into it whether they've got kids or not. So it's become a seasonal event for everyone.
00:25:29
Speaker 3: Fleur, so Halloween, Black Friday. Cyber Monday. Cyber Monday, Christmas, pre-Christmas. Do these things all cannibalise each other or are we collectively spending more on retail than we have historically?
00:25:45
Speaker 6: Look.
00:25:46
Speaker 15: Look, I think there's probably a few answers to that. What we have seen in recent years is that Aussies want a bit of fun. It's been a really tough five or six years for most Australians, not just financially, but there's been lots of things going on, a very intense period of time. And we've seen this pattern of Aussies just wanting to go out and have a bit of fun when the occasion arises, wanting to spend time with friends and family. So Halloween's a great example of that. It's not a big deal. It's a it's a small but fun moment in the calendar and, you know, maybe people just want to go and blow off some steam, have a in-person experience. You know, a lot of what we do is so virtual now. So there's an element of that. Do they cannibalize each other? Look, definitely with peak season, including Christmas and Black Friday, the sales can cut into the margins for the normal Christmas spending for retailers. It's, Black Friday has definitely risen a lot in popularity over here. It's obviously been a big thing for longer in the US. So sales periods are not always great news for retailers.
00:26:54
Speaker 18: Yeah.
00:26:56
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at the data point I mentioned a moment ago with regard to Halloween that you put out, that the forecast spend is increasing, but it's short of inflation. Is that broadly emblematic of... retail sector in terms of the spends are up, but they're not keeping pace with inflation?
00:27:17
Speaker 15: Well, look, it just depends. We are monitoring that really closely. We're seeing projections for the peak season period just a touch above at the moment. That could drop back again with another RBA decision. Obviously, those interest rate decisions either perceived or real, have a real impact on spending. But we also know not everyone's on a mortgage. You know, there are people who've paid off their mortgage or in a more positive financial situation. So it is a mixed bag, as you alluded to at the beginning. But definitely a really tough time for retailers, not just because of spending constraints, but because the cost of doing business to them has gone up astronomically. Supply chain costs, energy, insurance, Retail crime is taking a toll. There's a whole lot of extra regulation on retailers, and small retailers in particular are really struggling.
00:28:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting. Fleur, thank you for that. Fleur Brown from the Australian Retailers Association on 5AA Breakfast.
00:28:18
Speaker 5: Speaking of Halloween, I saw a post on Instagram from the city of Unley the other week, and it piqued my attention. They gave a few tips for Halloween. One, reuse decorations and repurpose, sure. Careful with the artificial spider webs, sure.
00:28:32
Speaker 4: And number three. Try homemade treats.
00:28:37
Speaker 6: Why?
00:28:38
Speaker 4: Don't know.
00:28:38
Speaker 5: Oh, this is some tips to enjoy Halloween without haunting the planet with waste.
00:28:46
Speaker 3: Oh, because of plastic wrappers and so forth.
00:28:48
Speaker 5: If I went to someone's house for Halloween and they offered me a homemade cookie, is anyone advising their children to eat homemade treats from random strangers' homes?
00:28:59
Speaker 3: That's probably the reason why the whole event is around taking pre-wrapped things from people.
00:29:03
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, except one council in Adelaide is encouraging you.
00:29:08
Speaker 3: Maybe Unley's a high-trust council area.
00:29:12
Speaker 5: It goes in the opposite direction of everything we've ever told our kids.
00:29:17
Speaker 3: That is quite funny. All right, let's head to the Weather Bureau. Chris Kent is on duty on this Monday morning. Morning to you, Chris.
00:29:23
Speaker 6: Good night, guys.
00:29:23
Speaker 3: How are you? Yeah, we're good, mate. So this week is not certainly going to be as warm as what we've had. Just take us through it.
00:29:30
Speaker 17: Yeah, no, we're expecting cooler than average temperatures for the start of the week anyway. Yeah, near top of 19 degrees forecast today in Adelaide. and a few showers about currently. So, yeah, there's a few sort of starting to move towards the city now and the southern suburbs.
00:29:48
Speaker 13: From the Gulf.
00:29:49
Speaker 17: So, yeah, maybe a little wet at times. But, yeah, those cooler conditions are expected to continue for the next couple of days and still slightly warming up. We'll possibly reach 20 by tomorrow, but, um, yeah, later in the week, we'll see those temperatures, uh, getting into the, the, yeah, the mid, um, 20s again, um, as those winds sort of, yeah, start to turn around, um, more to the east and, um, around to the north again. So, um, yeah, we'll see, uh, those temperatures, um, yeah, slowly increase throughout the week and, um, those showers also clearing, um, at the same time.
00:30:20
Speaker 3: All right. Good stuff, Chris. Thank you, Chris Kent at the Bureau of Meteorology. Let's head to SAPOL. Senior Constable Scott James joins us. Uh, Scott, Two people have been arrested after breaking into supermarkets in the southern suburbs.
00:30:33
Speaker 21: Yeah, so that was at two supermarkets at Warradale and TV Downs. So police responded after alarms activated at a supermarket on Railway Terrace at Warradale about 12.55 this morning. The suspects had entered and made off with a small amount of cash before police quickly arrived. And then a few minutes later, which was just after 1am, patrols were also called to Seacham Road at TV Downs via a report of another supermarket break-in. Patrols were quick to that scene and they were already in the area looking for suspects so they arrived while the caller was still on the line and the police then chased the suspects down the road. The roller door for that supermarket had been forced up and the glass smashed with a safe that was left dangling out of the window as the suspects had fled the scene. One suspect was then found in the front yard of the premises next door and he was arrested. It didn't get very far and police dog Webster arrived to help search the area and located a man hiding in a bush on Chandra Avenue. So a 19-year-old Morfaville man and an 18-year-old Waradale man were charged with two counts of serious criminal trespass in relation to those break-ins, property damage and also carrying an article of disguise. We're just asking anyone with any CCTV or dash cam footage just near those scenes of the break-ins to, if they've got any, yeah, any CCTV, just assist the investigation just to contact Crime Stoppers at 1800 333 000.
00:31:51
Speaker 4: Okay, and a drink driver's been arrested at Woodcroft as well, Scott?
00:31:54
Speaker 21: Yeah, so about 7.30pm last night, police stopped a Subaru sedan on Mawson Circuit for the purpose of a driver test. It'll be alleged that the 32-year-old driver, he was a man, and returned a positive result of 0.172, which is more than three times the legal limit. He was reported for drink driving, issued a 12-month loss of licence, and then was impounded his car for 28 days, and he'll appear in the magistrate's court.
00:32:16
Speaker 2: At a later date.
00:32:17
Speaker 3: All right, good stuff. Thank you, Scott. Senior Constable Scott James there from Saipala. If you love your tea, stick around. We'll be talking tea on the other side of this break. First, though, let's check traffic. A beautiful noise. The Neil Diamond musical is coming to Adelaide in May. We're going to be chatting with the promoter, actually, after eight, if you want to hear more about that. Join the wait list now.
00:32:34
Speaker 2: Knockdown.
00:32:35
Speaker 4: Bill 2.
00:32:36
Speaker 1: With Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes.
00:32:41
Speaker 4: They do it all for you.
00:32:42
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:32:49
Speaker 3: Five to seven exciting developments out of China for tea lovers. Some research out of China has found that, and it sounds like the more you drink, the better, that tea can help your mood and your heart. In fact, drinking six to eight cups of tea a day can reduce your risk of heart disease by as much as 11%. If that's true.
00:33:10
Speaker 3: My parents' hearts will be continuing to beat long after they've departed this mortal coil because six to eight, that's breakfast time for them.
00:33:19
Speaker 4: Doesn't touch the side.
00:33:20
Speaker 3: Doesn't touch the side. Peggy Valutis from Tea Bar Tea joins us. Morning, Peggy.
00:33:26
Speaker 7: Good morning.
00:33:27
Speaker 18: Good morning.
00:33:28
Speaker 3: Does any of this surprise you, Peggy, or have you long known that tea's good for you?
00:33:31
Speaker 7: Oh, I've long known it, especially when it's got to do with a Chinese study because that is the birthplace of tea. So they'd know everything about it. They'd be all over it.
00:33:40
Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
00:33:41
Speaker 5: So Peggy, are we talking all types of tea? Is it just black tea or not black tea, green tea?
00:33:47
Speaker 4: There's so many different types out there.
00:33:50
Speaker 7: That's right. Believe it or not, well, you've got to go back to the composition of tea. So all true tea comes from one leaf, the Camellia sinensis. So you've got black tea, green tea, white tea, oolong tea, pu'er tea. And anything else, like a herbal tea, is not considered a tea, but there are benefits in some of the herbal teas as well.
00:34:10
Speaker 11: Oh.
00:34:11
Speaker 2: So, yeah.
00:34:12
Speaker 4: So drinking like peppermint tea doesn't count as a tea?
00:34:16
Speaker 15: It doesn't count as a tea.
00:34:17
Speaker 7: It's a herbal tisane.
00:34:19
Speaker 14: But, you know, it is a herbal.
00:34:20
Speaker 7: Tea in our Western culture.
00:34:22
Speaker 11: There you go.
00:34:24
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:34:24
Speaker 3: What's sort of cool in tea world these days, Peggy? What are people drinking? Is it still your old English breakfast and Earl Grey favourites, or is it new funky stuff?
00:34:33
Speaker 7: The boomers are definitely sticking to the traditional, which, funnily enough, is sort of like leaving the supermarket shelves these days for more of the hip-hop kind of flavoured teas that they're doing more of now.
00:34:46
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:34:50
Speaker 7: I think green tea is really having a moment, again, because of the health benefits. And also things like hibiscus tea, which is fantastic for heart health, and rosehip tea, which is also very good for heart health because it reduces cholesterol, lowers blood pressure, same sort of effects of black and green tea.
00:35:13
Speaker 15: But we don't have to have the caffeine.
00:35:14
Speaker 13: Yes, yeah.
00:35:16
Speaker 5: I actually look for a tea that doesn't have caffeine because I'm quite impacted by caffeine.
00:35:20
Speaker 3: But I think tea.
00:35:21
Speaker 4: Is much more than that.
00:35:23
Speaker 5: If you're upset or anxious or nervous or just feeling a bit heightened, tea, it feels like it can really.
00:35:30
Speaker 4: Calm you down.
00:35:31
Speaker 5: I don't know if there's any science behind that or if it's just the idea of holding a warm tea and drinking it that calms you down.
00:35:39
Speaker 4: But I feel like that works.
00:35:41
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a bit of both because there is the L-theanine, which is the caffeine that is totally different to the caffeine in coffee. where, you know, when you have a coffee, it sort of spikes you and you are, you know, motivated and everything, and then it drops you about a half an hour later and you need another coffee, where a lot of the teas that come from the Camellia sinensis and some of the herbals, they just keep you on an even keel. So, yes, it does have benefits of soothing and relaxing and, yeah, it definitely does.
00:36:11
Speaker 3: Hey, Peggy, do you have any strong views about the order in which things are put into a tea in terms of milk, sweetener?
00:36:17
Speaker 19: Mm-hmm.
00:36:17
Speaker 3: Water, tea bag and so forth?
00:36:20
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, I really do think you shouldn't drink your tea too hot because that can actually damage a few things. But if you are going to add milk and sugar, because we don't drink out of porcelain cups as much anymore, that was the theory about putting the milk in first. But I would definitely infuse my tea if I'm having a black tea and I'd like milk with it and see how strong I'd like it before I.
00:36:45
Speaker 2: Put the milk in.
00:36:47
Speaker 19: There you go.
00:36:48
Speaker 7: And I don't have any sugar. I think you're corrupting it.
00:36:50
Speaker 15: It's so beautiful without all sugar.
00:36:52
Speaker 3: I knew you'd have an answer for that, Peggy. That was fantastic. Lovely to chat with you. Thank you for joining us this morning.
00:36:57
Speaker 7: Thank you, guys. Have a good week.
00:36:59
Speaker 3: Peggy Valutis from Tea Bar Tea. The top seven before seven. The top seven before seven. Jess just scratched his head in a way that makes me think he was kind of hoping we ran out of time for this. We've been talking about UFOs in this first hour, or UAP. Someone said that we don't call them UFOs anymore.
00:37:15
Speaker 7: Oh.
00:37:16
Speaker 3: I think, I don't know. I don't know. UAP now. Unintervaled Aerial Phenomenon. I think UFO wasn't, you know, might have been offensive to the aliens. Let's go. Number seven.
00:37:25
Speaker 5: Songs to do with UFOs.
00:37:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, songs to do with UFOs. No one told Sneaky Sound System if you can't say UFO anymore. Actually played at the Hotels Association the other night, Sneaky Sound System. They did. Number six.
00:37:43
Speaker 12: Aliens hover, making home movies.
00:37:47
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, it could be the first time we've heard Subterranean Homesick Alien by Radiohead on 5.8. Jess has gone deep for this one. Let's go to number five. Space Cowboy by Steve Miller. Some of these are really out there. Number four. Martian Boogie by Brownsville Station.
00:38:17
Speaker 16: Martian.
00:38:19
Speaker 3: Jess, are we learning something about your alternate music tastes this morning?
00:38:23
Speaker 4: No, I think this is AI. I think we need to ban AI.
00:38:26
Speaker 3: Number three. I mean, the purple people.
00:38:28
Speaker 2: I figured this was going to feature somewhere. My mother sings that to me when I was a small child. Number two.
00:38:43
Speaker 20: Yeah, the X-Files theme.
00:38:47
Speaker 3: Number one, music inspired by Aliens. Flying saucer rock and roll.
00:38:52
Speaker 20: Jess is right into this. He might be the only one.
00:38:56
Speaker 3: Five double A's is on the way. You boys had a good run on your 747s.
00:39:13
Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
00:39:21
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:39:26
Speaker 3: Eight minutes after seven, the texts are coming in with regard to our... seven before seven just a moment ago. Rick and Richard are both saying, where was this?
00:39:36
Speaker 9: Calling occupants of interplanetary ultra-emissaries.
00:39:40
Speaker 4: We've been abandoned.
00:39:45
Speaker 3: A glaring omission for our seven before seven songs inspired by aliens. We've been talking about Pilot leaving Heathrow Airport, bound for the United States, seeing an object the size of four toasters. And it did inspire, that's his words, not mine. Four toasters.
00:40:02
Speaker 4: I still can't believe that was ever used as a form of measurement.
00:40:04
Speaker 3: That's right. And so our 747, songs inspired by aliens and UFOs. A little bit controversial, but not too bad. Jess, I think, got away with it on the text line there. Coming up this hour on the program, the Premier of South Australia, who today has announced that the, well, some of the processes involved in the awarding of contracts in the Torrance to Darlington component of South Road will be reviewed by ICAC, given the perception now that there may well be bike infiltration on this project. And of course, this, Minister, did your government learn about this by reading the Sunday Mail?
00:40:41
Speaker 13: Look, Largely, yes.
00:40:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the Transport and Infrastructure Minister of this time a week ago. That story having originally come out in the Sunday Mail. It subsequently came out. His office knew a month earlier than that. They all described it as a great process, yet here we are now with an ICAC investigation starting into this today at the Premier's request. Feels like he's playing clean-up on this one, doesn't it?
00:41:04
Speaker 19: Again.
00:41:05
Speaker 3: Again. Goes away, comes back, has to tidy things up. Intrigued by what, if anything, we'll ever learn from an ICAC investigation?
00:41:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, ICAC can't really do anything else since Parliament pulled the reins on it. Can't really look into MPs anymore. Can't really look into public servants that much anymore. So may as well get the ICAC doing something or at least look like the ICAC's doing something.
00:41:29
Speaker 3: It does give you a bit of an indication of the seriousness with which the state government sees this. Last week was a bit of a disaster and they've seen what this did to a government in Victoria. You know, beyond– that's just the politics of it. Obviously, as taxpayers, we've seen what that does to the cost of these projects and, indeed, others working on them and the ability for different people to compete for contracts and whatnot, and that all exposes taxpayers. But they are– they're living through the ramifications of that in Victoria at the moment. A new poll came out last night. I think the Australian– front page of The Australian this morning, last days of Danistan, the latest news polls come out, has the coalition– On 33, I don't know how many places around Australia you'd see a Liberal Party or Liberal National Coalition with a three in front of it and a primary vote, Labor 24 and One Nation back to 20, which would be probably on those numbers, the Libs there winning on their own right over what has been a long period of Labor rule, but brought down in part. of things like this. And Ashton Hearn said to us on the program last week that this is how it started. This is how it started in Victoria. Oh, it's just a little, it's just one guy doing one thing and the process is working beautifully. We're across it and nothing to see here. So hence why we, one week later, now have an IGAC investigation into this. Perhaps the most disturbing thing you could read about in the paper today, though, Stace, was Andrew Huff getting some FOI data back about some serious threats that have been made in public places in South Australia, presumably to our elected officials and others.
00:42:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, hundreds of them.
00:43:01
Speaker 5: Incidents that have been recorded in the last couple of years, 95 at Government House, 92 of them at Parliament House. There's some really strange locations as well. When you look at the Department of Health, SA Health building, just down here on Pulteney Street. The Education Building, the Forensic Science Building had eight incidents.
00:43:22
Speaker 4: Why would anyone.
00:43:25
Speaker 5: Think that they need to attend the Forensic Science Building? And I wonder, the detail you'll never get in an FOI and you'll probably never get ever is are these people just people who have existing mental health issues, or are they there for a reason which is a genuine threat against a genuine individual?
00:43:46
Speaker 3: Well, it's worth considering that in what you've just said in light of what Tanya Plibersek has said overnight. Have a listen.
00:43:51
Speaker 6: People will be reflecting on Helen and how we best support her and her family, but also how we can change the tenor of debate in this country. We can have robust debate without personal vitriol.
00:44:05
Speaker 3: I think that's interesting. increasingly we're getting this picture, and we won't talk about the Helen Haynes case specifically, but your inclination in discussing this is to go to how many of these are mental health issues. And I think that we've always discussed this whole turning down the volume conversation in the sense that there are just normal people that are being radicalised into wanting to do things against politicians. Now, that seemingly is not the case. So then the question becomes, are people suffering mental health episodes more likely to want to visit anger on public officials because of the tenor of debate? Or are they kind of doing it anyway? Like to the forensic science lab, which makes no sense. I wonder to what, look, and I think everyone, frankly, just in terms of us being a society that gets along well, we could all probably do with the temperature of the tone of debate being turned down somewhat. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. But I've, I'm increasingly sceptical of the causation between hot debate and mental health episodes. I just wonder if they're always happening.
00:45:16
Speaker 11: Yeah.
00:45:18
Speaker 4: I personally don't think that politics... I think that politicians.
00:45:26
Speaker 5: Have something to answer for here in the way they talk to each other and the words they use against each other. And when they start getting extremely personal and they start doing cartoons about each other and calling a veteran a traitor and when the government throws barbs over the parliament desk. to the opposition and they call each other names, I think that does inflame the conversation and it makes people outside think it's okay to call them that too.
00:45:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, that certainly happens. I think there's no doubt about that. But does it make the people who are likely to have some sort of mental health break and commit violence, does it make them more likely to do that? Does it make them more likely to target a politician? Maybe that's true. Or maybe those two things aren't as strongly related as... We might have imagined a week ago when we started having this conversation.
00:46:19
Speaker 5: Perhaps they should talk to some psychiatrists about it to actually get some evidence or some advice.
00:46:26
Speaker 3: Sometimes we have all these discussions, be it about violence against MPs or violence in the community, and we avoid the most difficult conversation, which is about how are we dealing with people with serious mental health issues?
00:46:40
Speaker 4: It can't help. is what I would say. It doesn't help the situation.
00:46:44
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about it in a different way in terms of domestic violence and the conversations we have in the community about men and misogynistic remarks and then women and feminists and blah, blah, blah. And I don't think that conversation helps when it comes to domestic violence. So I don't think the conversation about MPs and them throwing barbs at each other helps when it comes to someone who may already have existing mental health issues.
00:47:08
Speaker 4: The way they would act towards an MP. I don't think it helps.
00:47:11
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:47:11
Speaker 3: This feels like another data point in the question about is the modern way that we handle people with acute mental health issues the best way? Because I'm not convinced it is. Text coming through, 044808 1395. Ron says, Victoria paying $ 24 million a day in interest payments. Well done on the spending over their labour. It looks like at the ballot box they're going to pay for that.
00:47:35
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:47:37
Speaker 3: Now, Andrew's raised the point. This is interesting. This is news that is knocking around this morning too. What's being taught to school kids, university students, they're going to be protesting in capital cities, including Adelaide, on Remembrance Day. This is anti-capitalist marches around the country from students in solidarity with what's happening in France because it's just a totally normal and well-adjusted thing to see what's happening in France and go, yes, that sounds great. They're doing it on Remembrance Day. The most telling quote to Andrew's question about what's being taught in schools. I wonder if I can bring it up very quickly. Yes, I can. So one of the organisers said that it was just a coincidence. We didn't pick November 11 to insult veterans, said Jules Apula. The date is a coincidence.
00:48:28
Speaker 4: Well, change it then.
00:48:29
Speaker 3: That's right. The dates have no significance. You know it's Remembrance Day.
00:48:32
Speaker 15: Oh.
00:48:35
Speaker 4: Isn't that something, okay, if you forgot or you didn't know Remembrance Day was on November 11 and you go, oh, that was a mistake, better change it.
00:48:44
Speaker 3: I would have thought.
00:48:45
Speaker 4: Adjust the date.
00:48:46
Speaker 3: To Andrew's point, I think that is born out of a total ignorance about what the date signifies. The fact that that even was a day that was significant, that no organiser tweaked to it, and then when asked about it, they said, oh, that's a coincidence. It's only a coincidence if you didn't even register for you that November 11 was a special day. Someone's asked you.
00:49:07
Speaker 4: I could forgive.
00:49:08
Speaker 5: I could forgive that of someone to not know, but then to be made aware of it and then go, oh, well.
00:49:14
Speaker 22: Yeah.
00:49:17
Speaker 5: If you know it's going to offend veterans, change it. Maybe you didn't know and you now know.
00:49:22
Speaker 3: Perhaps the best version of this is they're ignorant. The worst version of this is they're offensive and they don't care. They don't care.
00:49:30
Speaker 4: And Scott has taken.
00:49:34
Speaker 5: What we were saying earlier to be left v right and to say we were blaming the right, that's not the case at all. Tanya Plibersek is also called Peter Dutton Voldemort in the past and then later apologised for it. So the language that comes from both sides of politics to each other is what I was referring to, not just from the right.
00:49:54
Speaker 3: And Peter's actually texted in immediately after saying that the way we've spoken about Chris Bowen in the past is part of the problem.
00:50:01
Speaker 10: So.
00:50:03
Speaker 3: There you go. Consecutive text. Fantastic.
00:50:06
Speaker 22: All right.
00:50:06
Speaker 3: We're going to check traffic. We'll come back in just a moment. The premiere coming up before 8 o'clock, though, on the Torrance Darlington ICAC investigation that's going to take place. Traffic, a beautiful noise. The Neil Diamond musical is bringing exclusive performance at Rundle Mall this Friday.
00:50:22
Speaker 1: Knockdown, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
00:50:31
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:50:36
Speaker 3: 23 minutes after 7, Timmy G, stand-up comedian, sport expert. We're going to chat with him in just a moment. They'd order now because, of course, he did the stand-up on Saturday night at the Kent Town Hotel. We're having our listeners there. If you were there, call in and give us a Timmy G review. 8223 0000. Should we do a couple of texts?
00:50:52
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:50:53
Speaker 5: Marge says, in my opinion, drugs have a massive input into our mental health problems. Phil says it's hard to forget Remembrance Day because it was his dad's birthday and Anzac.
00:51:05
Speaker 4: Day was his mum's birthday. There you go.
00:51:07
Speaker 5: You couldn't forget either of those. And Russell says, how on earth could anyone not know it's Remembrance Day? I would have thought these educated uni students would be aware of this.
00:51:17
Speaker 4: I get it.
00:51:18
Speaker 5: I wasn't that in tune when I was in school or uni with dates either. I don't think your brain is necessarily thinking about What are other people doing on this day?
00:51:30
Speaker 4: I just, a lot of uni students aren't engaged. They're drunk a lot of the time.
00:51:39
Speaker 3: It's, you know.
00:51:40
Speaker 5: To me, the major offence is to find out it's Remembrance Day and still choose to have it on that day.
00:51:46
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:51:47
Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah, but you know what? Your ignorance to the importance of the day starts with not even knowing it's a day. So it's hard to arrive after the fact that we should change it is actually really important. If in the first instance you didn't even know it was a serious day.
00:52:07
Speaker 13: Sure.
00:52:07
Speaker 22: Yeah.
00:52:08
Speaker 3: But I think the two things are directly related.
00:52:13
Speaker 4: I disagree, but that's all right. There's no need to go around in circles.
00:52:16
Speaker 11: No, no.
00:52:16
Speaker 6: 8223 0000.
00:52:16
Speaker 3: You can text us on 044808 1395 for your thoughts as well. I was at a hockey club event on Friday night. Louise Miller-Frost spoke at it there and did a really great speech about how hard it's been for MPs being out and about at the moment. But it made the point, she said, I don't like talking about myself at a community event, but given this week with the focus on who's being out in public places and I feel like I sort of have to address it because that's all I've been thinking about. Made a really powerful point about actually, you know, what reminds you that the community is pretty good is when you're out in the community and you go to a place and you see people hanging out, you see families, you see three generations of people that have been volunteers at a sporting organisation. You remember that the world is not so bad and it's mostly full of really good people doing it. I thought it was a really good speech to a group of people that felt part for her and part for everyone there as well. reflecting on what's been an otherwise really, really terrible week and why it's important we still have MPs going out to events.
00:53:26
Speaker 20: Yeah, good.
00:53:27
Speaker 3: 26 minutes after seven, let's talk to the comedian himself, eh? And speaking about report cards with distinctions, here's Ginevite. Tim Ginevite on 5AA Breakfast. Well, Tim, the one question that all South Australia wants to know is how did it go? Timmy.
00:53:50
Speaker 4: Gosh, Timmy sounds like he's on the phone.
00:53:52
Speaker 3: Oh, hello. I'm back.
00:53:52
Speaker 14: I'm back.
00:53:53
Speaker 10: Sorry, mate.
00:53:53
Speaker 3: What was the question? You're coming to us live from that UFO that's four toasters wide. How did you go on Saturday night? I think we've got no chance for that. It's terrific, and thanks to everybody. You know what? Let's do Tim on the phone because there's a delay that you can actually drive a 747 through.
00:54:14
Speaker 5: We would usually say there's gremlins in the system, but maybe they're aliens this morning, given the theme.
00:54:18
Speaker 4: Of the day.
00:54:19
Speaker 3: There's definitely aliens in the system. It's one of the problems with things being broadcast on 4G and 5G is you get the same effect that you would otherwise. You used to have on international phone calls.
00:54:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, the delay.
00:54:29
Speaker 3: The huge delay.
00:54:31
Speaker 6: I'm good.
00:54:33
Speaker 4: I'm good. Yeah, you're good?
00:54:34
Speaker 10: Okay.
00:54:34
Speaker 6: All right.
00:54:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, happens all the time in TV crosses too, if you watch very closely. Sometimes you'll see that they're having some issues with the same technology. You know what works? Old-fashioned phones. Timmy, good morning. How'd the show go?
00:54:45
Speaker 23: Four toasters just appeared right in front of me. I couldn't believe it. Oh, yeah, look, terrific night, and thanks for all your support and five double A's. It went off an absolute treat. The Kentown was set up in... I didn't know what theatre seating was but then I got there and I said, oh, it looks like that, does it? Nice little semi-circles going around right to the back of the room and the audience was so kind to me. It was lovely but had a terrific evening but interestingly enough, your producer there, Paddy Goldsmith, he came along and thank you very much, Paddy, but I said to him, what was your favourite bit? He said, oh, the 10 minutes you were ragging on your wife and I said, It's still your favourite bit though, wasn't it?
00:55:33
Speaker 4: Any words when you got home, Timmy?
00:55:38
Speaker 23: Oh, well, it was so funny because so many people were coming up to me afterwards and saying, oh, you and the doghouse, you're all going to get done, you know. And I said, look, this banter's been going on for 37 years. I said, there's no problems there. But what I'd done, Stace, is one night we were sitting at the dining table and I'd taken this sneaky little photo. of the Y2 by, if she can get in her pyjamas in the winter by 5.30, she's pretty happy. And I'd taken a sneaky little photo and I'd sort of, she didn't know it was coming and my kids were all there and I said, I got up on the stage, you know it's like when, if parents start talking about sex in front of their children, there is, ah, la, la, la, they don't want to hear a word, right? And I said, you know, we're at that stage, you know, where we've got to spice things up a bit and we've got to start role playing. And, you know, I said, and here's Ange and I put a photo up in her big, fluffy, grey dressing gown and just sitting there not looking sexy at all. And I said, here she is trying to turn me on in her koala outfit. And I said, unfortunately, the role playing was that it's a koala with chlamydia. And I said, unfortunately, it's working up there.
00:56:52
Speaker 3: Well, someone texted us, Tim, before you came on saying, Timmy G was a great laugh. Awesome night.
00:56:57
Speaker 10: P.S.
00:56:57
Speaker 3: Wondering how his weekend with the koala went.
00:56:59
Speaker 23: So I reckon that one landed, Tim.
00:57:03
Speaker 3: Well, we might talk about comedy because there's nothing, there's no good news out of the weekend in sport, is there? Just about everyone lost, didn't they?
00:57:10
Speaker 23: It was a disastrous weekend. Honestly, I think besides the Port AFLW team, every other team lost. We lost the men's cricket. We lost the Diamonds in the netball 3-0. We lost the 36ers. We lost the Adelaide United first game. It was just a bit of a disaster. And then Phillip Island didn't even get a run. That got washed out. So, yeah, she was all round. And Winters hit back. So, God, what a weekend.
00:57:33
Speaker 21: Yeah.
00:57:33
Speaker 3: No, I think we should talk more about the comedy.
00:57:35
Speaker 23: Thank the Lord for koalas, my friend.
00:57:36
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Good on you, Timmy.
00:57:39
Speaker 6: They're right.
00:58:03
Speaker 3: Peter Malinowskis, who has written to the ICAC Commissioner with a view to getting an independent evaluation of integrity safeguards for procurement, contracting and subcontracting on the Torrance-Darlington component of the South Road upgrade, following the perception, at very least, that we may be getting some bike infiltration. The case, of course, that we specifically have details about is Jamie Brown, who, through a convoluted... a series of events, got shares in a company that was on the project, but it raises everyone's concern given the experience in Victoria on major infrastructure projects there. Premier, good morning to you.
00:58:41
Speaker 10: Good morning, Will. Good morning, Stacey.
00:58:43
Speaker 3: So initially, going back to when this story first came out, you described it as the process of Jamie Brown being identified and going through court as a good process that was a good process working. Does a good process working eight days later require the ICAC to have a closer look at it?
00:59:03
Speaker 9: Well, it's about trying to make sure we're doing everything we can. We've seen the reports of what's happened interstate in Victoria, and we're not going to have it here, plain and simple.
00:59:11
Speaker 3: And from my.
00:59:12
Speaker 9: Perspective, I'm willing to leave no stone unturned to make sure that all the policies and procedures that we could have in place to ensure that no organised crime elements are able to get access to this project.
00:59:25
Speaker 3: But this is closing the gate after the horse has bolted, isn't it? Getting the ICAC to now look at procurement on a project that's underway.
00:59:32
Speaker 10: Well, here's the point, right?
00:59:33
Speaker 9: So there are a range of policies and procedures that the Department of Infrastructure and Transport and the Torrens to Darlington.
00:59:39
Speaker 10: Alliance have in place.
00:59:40
Speaker 9: And we should be clear that there is no evidence that I've seen or that has been publicly reported or been elevated to my level that suggests that any organised crime element has had any access to the Torrance to Darlington project. But what we've seen is that someone tried. And, you know, that just invites consideration from my perspective to make sure, let's ensure that we do absolutely everything we can, which is why I've asked ICAC to give the policies and procedures a once-over, which they have the authority to do under the Act through the means of an evaluation. Now, the ICAC will make their own independent judgment as to whether or not they take up my request because they're a completely independent body of government, as it should be. But nonetheless, I've written to them and then sought their approval for me to be able to make it clear and publicly known that we've sought their assistance. I don't see anything to lose here. Organised crime, these people are sophisticated operators. There's A lot of allegations that they've been able to infiltrate Victoria infrastructure projects. And we're just not going to have it here. And why not get the ICAC to make sure that we're doing everything we can within the department level?
01:01:00
Speaker 5: When did you find out about the Jamie Brown case? And did your minister tell you when he knew about a month ago?
01:01:06
Speaker 15: No.
01:01:06
Speaker 9: So the first I heard about the Jamie Brown case was when it appeared in the Sunday Mail following this, a piece of civil litigation, just to be clear about that.
01:01:15
Speaker 10: The Jamie Brown case.
01:01:16
Speaker 9: Case is one contractor taking on another person in the Supreme Court for a civil dispute. That's when I first learned about the whole thing. Minister Sockarch's office became aware that there was something going on on the 11th of September, but that would never reach my office until- Have you.
01:01:41
Speaker 4: Asked questions about why not?
01:01:43
Speaker 10: Yes.
01:01:44
Speaker 20: And?
01:01:46
Speaker 9: Look, it was dealt with appropriately at the ministerial level. Dan Wills, who is Minister Sockhart's Chief of Staff, immediately reported it to the property authorities, which is the most important thing. I found out about it during the course of the Sunday Mail report. With hindsight, I think Jo would acknowledge that probably worth letting me know, given the fact that we've seen what we've seen in other parts of the country. Nonetheless, it doesn't change the outcome because it was reported to the Torres de Dundas Alliance and the department accordingly. And we're now in a situation where, you know, like I said, out of prudence, I think it's appropriate that I ask the principal agency that has an extraordinary amount of powers invested within it to be able to make sure, are there more policies and procedures? Are there any other safeguards that aren't currently in place that should be in place.
01:02:44
Speaker 4: Would you not have expected your minister to tell you, though? Is that a serious omission?
01:02:49
Speaker 9: Look, like I said, with hindsight, I'm sure Joe probably would have picked up the phone and say, hey, worthwhile you being aware that this has happened and this is the actions that we've undertaken, all of which were prudent. But that's, like I said, you know, in terms of a communication issue, you know, there might be a critique there to be made, but I don't think it's, you know... Utterly extraordinary, given that the appropriate reporting was undertaken by the minister's office, as you'd reasonably expect.
01:03:15
Speaker 3: It's not just a communication issue, though, is it? It goes to the level of urgency that his office had with regard to this issue.
01:03:20
Speaker 10: Well, it was reported.
01:03:21
Speaker 3: It was reported.
01:03:22
Speaker 10: The day that they found out about it.
01:03:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, they reported it. But then he was asked about it a month later. And I think I just read about it in the Sunday Mail on the weekend. It doesn't exactly sound like he's... He was.
01:03:31
Speaker 9: Saying that in respect to the civil dispute that was in the courts, which is true. Now, let's play that out. The civil dispute that was in the courts, the first he learned of that, and anyone learned of that, was through the Sunday Mail article, and that's to be expected on one level, except for the fact that the relevant contractor, Korea Boss, didn't proactively report that to the Tories and the Darling Alliance, as they are obliged to do. And that allowed the minister... to intervene and say they've got to go and subsequently their contract has been suspended. And I think that demonstrates prudence on their part.
01:04:06
Speaker 3: The potential bike infiltration to the Torrance-Darlington component of South Road, though, didn't sound like it set off a five-alarm fire in the government when you've got the... Well, it did because... Well, he didn't tell you, so it's not a five-alarm fire. So he didn't tell you. And then he was asked about a month later, it was sort of vague about, oh, I think I read it in the paper.
01:04:22
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:04:24
Speaker 3: It doesn't speak to a degree of urgency about something that we've got a cautionary tale across the border about.
01:04:30
Speaker 9: There is absolutely a cautionary tale across the border. What's my interest here? What's the public's interest here? To make sure that the TDD project, which by the way is on time and on budget at the moment, notwithstanding the fact we've got a long way to go, that it has got everything in place to ensure every last dollar is being expended prudently and we don't allow organised crime to infiltrate in South Australia. And the way we've seen allegedly in other parts of the country, plain and simple. There was a report that raised a question. It was elevated to the appropriate authorities. Like I said, with the value of hindsight, do I think it should have been elevated to me?
01:05:02
Speaker 10: Of course.
01:05:03
Speaker 9: But we are in the situation we are in, and what matters ultimately, even more than who knew what, when, is has organised crime infiltrated? There's no evidence to suggest that it has. And what am I doing as Premier of the State? Well, I'm calling in the big dog, so to speak, to actually make sure we've got everything right.
01:05:23
Speaker 5: Just on a point you made earlier, the reason we know all about this now is because it has been in court in a civil case. Are police investigating any criminal activities involved with career boss or the Torrance to Darlington procurement or contractors and subcontractors at all?
01:05:39
Speaker 9: That's a question that you have to put to police. Please don't pick up the phone and say to me, as you'd expect– You know, we're investigating X, Y and Z and they haven't done so as such to this point. I haven't received any advice from South Australian police. I know South Australian police are regularly looking into matters that pertain to organised crime because it.
01:05:59
Speaker 3: Exists and that's what they do.
01:06:03
Speaker 9: But, you know, I haven't had SAPOL contact me directly and say, oh, you should be aware X, Y and Z.
01:06:11
Speaker 3: Why review the grounds on which contracts have been granted and not the contracts that have been granted themselves at this point?
01:06:19
Speaker 10: Sorry, just say that again.
01:06:20
Speaker 3: So the ICAC letter that you've written says, let's have a look at the procurement processes. Let's have a look to make sure we had appropriate safeguards in place to make sure these kind of people aren't getting in on this project. The whole work's already going on.
01:06:33
Speaker 20: Of course.
01:06:33
Speaker 3: So why not have a look at the contracts themselves and the people involved? Is there a process?
01:06:38
Speaker 10: Well, ICAC, so let's be clear about this.
01:06:41
Speaker 9: ICAC has unfettered, as you will know, has completely unfettered authority to look at anything they want, whenever they want, however they want. And they've got extraordinary powers to be able to do that. Rights that are applied to you and me and every other citizen under the rule of law, those rights are foregone for the purposes of ICAC investigations, which is pretty extraordinary. They have the ability to look at anything they like. what I've done is written to them and say, hey, look, what's, like I said, my interest, I want to be satisfied as Premier of the State that everything that could be done is being done.
01:07:21
Speaker 10: That's it.
01:07:21
Speaker 9: Now, I suspect with their point of view, they might come back and make a few recommendations, and I will welcome that. That's why we've asked them to do it.
01:07:30
Speaker 3: So you'd expect them to go through the current granted contracts with the fine-tooth guy.
01:07:34
Speaker 10: I would have thought so.
01:07:35
Speaker 9: One of the challenges, Will, is, and Stacey is, These contractors, you know, there are often layers of them.
01:07:43
Speaker 10: And, you know, a.
01:07:46
Speaker 9: Major company here in the Torrance Dunning Alliance, you know, $ 15 billion project, they'll contract to Stacey PTYLTD, and then you will subcontract to Will Goodings PTYLTD, and it goes on and on and on. And the ability to be able to see and have a visibility over changes of ownership in those contracts is something that takes a degree of forensic examination.
01:08:07
Speaker 10: And that's why it is.
01:08:08
Speaker 9: Complicated and all the more reason to have an organisation like ICAC have a look at that.
01:08:13
Speaker 3: So all that being said, as we stand here today, are you satisfied there is no bike infiltration on the project beyond Jamie Brown?
01:08:20
Speaker 9: Well, there is no evidence that has been put to me to say that it's the case. Now, if I had received a piece of advice that said from anybody saying we think organised crime is in on the T2D project, then the phone call would be to South Australian Police and ICAC saying, what are you doing to.
01:08:44
Speaker 10: Get it out?
01:08:44
Speaker 4: So you haven't made a call to police about this?
01:08:47
Speaker 14: No.
01:08:47
Speaker 4: To ask them to investigate?
01:08:48
Speaker 6: No.
01:08:49
Speaker 3: Okay.
01:08:49
Speaker 4: We have a text here from Anthony.
01:08:51
Speaker 9: I can't go to South Australian Police unless I've got evidence of a crime being committed.
01:08:57
Speaker 10: What are we going to ICAC to do?
01:08:59
Speaker 4: Well, you could ask them. to investigate if you have a suspicion of a crime being committed.
01:09:03
Speaker 10: Yeah, but I don't.
01:09:04
Speaker 3: Right.
01:09:04
Speaker 5: You don't have a suspicion at all of any crime being committed?
01:09:07
Speaker 10: Well, if I did, I would report it to police.
01:09:08
Speaker 5: Okay.
01:09:09
Speaker 6: All right.
01:09:09
Speaker 4: That's good to clarify.
01:09:10
Speaker 10: I mean, and everybody should.
01:09:13
Speaker 9: And that was the advice that was given to the lawyer representing Career Boss. And just think this through, which is invites questions of its own, ones that I haven't yet been able to get an answer to. The lawyer representing career boss who had the allegation about Mr. Brown went to a local MP's office.
01:09:35
Speaker 10: To raise it.
01:09:37
Speaker 3: Now, what's that about?
01:09:38
Speaker 9: I mean, if someone's got any suggestion of crime or impropriety, they've got to go to police. You know, and I don't, I don't, you know, understand what's going on here. And I think that invites some consideration. Why haven't these people gone to police themselves?
01:09:58
Speaker 3: We see a civil dispute in the court now. To some extent. I mean, we're talking about now things we don't have direct knowledge of, but it goes to the complexity, does it not, with regard to some of those subcontractors where a transfer of shares might happen totally legally.
01:10:11
Speaker 10: Correct.
01:10:12
Speaker 3: A company might be purchased totally legally. It doesn't need to rise to the threshold of criminality. for it to be the infiltration of bikies onto the South Road Project.
01:10:20
Speaker 10: Indeed.
01:10:21
Speaker 4: We have a text here from Anthony. Come on, guys, give the Premier a break.
01:10:24
Speaker 5: The guy's obviously too busy organising sport, which has been a criticism of you in the past. You're holding a press conference today with the CEO of the AFL.
01:10:33
Speaker 4: Is today the day.
01:10:33
Speaker 5: To be making an AFL announcement? And can you see that it could be seen as sports washing when there is something so serious that you're asking of the ICAC in South Australia?
01:10:42
Speaker 10: Yeah. Just think through the logic of that.
01:10:46
Speaker 4: Yep, I have. That's why I've asked it.
01:10:47
Speaker 10: Okay, sure.
01:10:48
Speaker 9: So I'm in your program sitting here at 20 to 8 in the morning answering– in fact, I think my office contacted 5AA this morning saying, hey, the Premier's put this letter to ICAC. It's been provided by the government to the advertiser, which on the front page of the paper, if 5AA would like to talk to the Premier.
01:11:08
Speaker 10: This morning about this issue, it would be very keen to.
01:11:10
Speaker 14: Yes.
01:11:11
Speaker 5: So you're happy to talk about it pre-9 and then after 9 it's about sport and hopefully the TV news tonight is covering the big AFL announcement instead?
01:11:18
Speaker 9: I think you find, Stacey, that your Machiavellian assumptions are desperately falling short.
01:11:25
Speaker 4: Am I too cynical?
01:11:27
Speaker 10: Yes.
01:11:28
Speaker 9: I don't think, as much as I like the idea of being able to control when the AFL release their fixture, I can't.
01:11:34
Speaker 10: That's the truth. I mean, in life I've worked out a few things.
01:11:38
Speaker 9: You've got Local government, then above that you've got state government, then above that you've got federal government, then above that you might have the UN and God, and then on top of that is the AFL. They announce what they want to announce when they announce it. The AFL was planning to announce– the AFL commission is in Adelaide today. They're announcing the Gather Round fixture today, and that was arranged long before any of this.
01:12:00
Speaker 10: Okay.
01:12:01
Speaker 3: Is the Prince your favourite, Mikey Belly?
01:12:02
Speaker 10: I'm– Not too sure how you can arrive at any other conclusion.
01:12:07
Speaker 15: Sorry.
01:12:07
Speaker 11: All right.
01:12:08
Speaker 3: Premier, thank you for your time.
01:12:09
Speaker 10: My absolute pleasure.
01:12:10
Speaker 15: Cheers.
01:12:10
Speaker 3: All right. It's six minutes to eight. We'll check traffic now. A beautiful noise. The Neil Diamond Music will come into Adelaide in May. Join the wait list now.
01:12:17
Speaker 1: Knock down.
01:12:18
Speaker 4: Build two.
01:12:18
Speaker 1: With Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes.
01:12:24
Speaker 4: They do it all for you.
01:12:25
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:12:30
Speaker 3: I think you upset the Premier, Stace. We got a few texts through as well that would upset him with regard to this ICAC and the Torrington to Darlington development as well.
01:12:39
Speaker 6: Yep.
01:12:40
Speaker 5: We'll read some of those texts out after eight o'clock.
01:12:42
Speaker 14: All right.
01:12:43
Speaker 3: We will do that. Let's talk real estate first with Bronte Emanuel from Toop & Toop, who's here to tell us all that's going on. At least make sense of it. That's what we love that you do very well, Bronte. One thing that's been interesting, and Stacey and I had this conversation a little bit early today, and good morning to you, went to the evenness or otherwise of the softening of the housing market. Are we seeing the same thing for the properties that first homebuyers would be interested in as we are for the properties that multi-squillionaires are interested in?
01:13:15
Speaker 22: Yeah, guys, it's quite a fascinating question. I think the first thing to address here is that I feel like people have two budgets. One is when people go, oh, I don't want to spend above a million, but it's emotional. So if they need to be pushed to one, one, one, two, they can do it. And then there's a physical budget where people go, I can borrow 980. So I cannot buy the property for 985 because I don't have another 5,000. So if we then look at what's happened with rates and you know, since the last lift on the 29th of September, you know, people that at the start of the year could borrow 1.5 million can now borrow 1.37. So over the course of this year, they've lost 130 grand in borrowing power. So if they could borrow a million, they can probably now borrow 930. So that's why we're finding in that market, more first home buyer type market is feeling the pinch more because it's a physical budget. They're getting assessed by the banks at 10 or so percent. Then if we go extreme and we've got a property for five, six, seven million, they're going, well, as long as we buy and sell in the same market, you know, a budget is psychological and they're buying and they're moving and they're doing things. If anything, this market is more predictable for them to make the move than what it was previously because they didn't want to sell their house. because then they thought they could be homeless for nine months. So, yeah, what the observation is, is first home buyer market is categorically feeling it significantly worse than the top end.
01:14:48
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah.
01:14:49
Speaker 5: It does seem like there's two markets at the moment, one for the people who will be spending a lot of money on Halloween and aren't necessarily– struggling with interest rate rises or experiencing interest rate rises. And then the lower end of the market, people trying to get in and those mortgage holders who are struggling and maybe won't be buying into Halloween.
01:15:08
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bronte, for that. You've just encapsulated something I struggled to make the point about when we talked about the Halloween. 400,000 fewer people celebrating in terms of buying decorations this year, 13% more is being spent. The haves and the have-nots. You've described exactly what it is. It's the two-speed economy, the two Halloweens. economy at the moment and it's clearly happening in housing as well all right we're gonna go to the break break at eight and uh we've got a question for you that all 40 fans i think gonna have a say on in the next 30 minutes to it knock.
01:15:39
Speaker 1: Down bill two with metro homes sell one and move on keep the other as an investment metro homes they do it all for you Will.
01:15:48
Speaker 2: Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:15:52
Speaker 3: 10 after 8. If you're a Neil Diamond fan, you're going to be delighted by the news this morning that he is bringing... He's not, but the Neil Diamond musical show is coming to Adelaide next year, Sunday the 23rd of May, 2027. The previews commence on that day at Her Majesty's Theatre. Paul Dainty's going to join us, who's the promoter bringing... Paul, if you've ever been to a Neil Diamond show in Australia, it's basically because of Paul's work. Paul's relationship with Neil, remarkable. Neil Diamond's the godfather to one of Paul's sons. So, you know, this is not just the promoter picking up the call and putting out the press release. He knows Neil Diamond really well and he knows this show and looking forward to chatting with it. It's got remarkable reviews right around the world wherever it's played. The beautiful noise, Neil Diamond music. We've given away tickets to it interstate on previous occasions as well. So that's coming up. And also, the Premier gave us a bit of a hint about an announcement that's coming after 9 o'clock today regarding football. We're going to try and get ahead of it and see if our listeners can do better than the AFL. That's all I'm going to tell you. And we will play that game after 8.30 this morning. Do you want to do a couple of texts or should we just go straight to breaking it down? Because it's all related.
01:17:05
Speaker 4: It's all related. Let's get straight into.
01:17:09
Speaker 15: It.
01:17:09
Speaker 5: We are getting a huge response from you about that interview with the Premier.
01:17:13
Speaker 4: And you heard his plan for... how he thinks.
01:17:18
Speaker 5: That the next part of the investigation should go into the T2D and suspected or at least perceived bikey links. He's now asked the Independent Commissioner Against Corruption to look into it. The leader of the opposition, Ashton Hearn, has another idea, though, and she joins you now. Good morning to you, Ashton Hearn.
01:17:34
Speaker 3: Good morning.
01:17:35
Speaker 4: What would you like to see happen in this case?
01:17:38
Speaker 8: Well, look, first of all, I mean, there's a lot to unpack from the interview with the Premier there. And I do think that asking ICAC to review the processes and procedures is a welcome step. But it's also not a get out of jail free card for Labor, who over the last week have been on your program and on speaking to various journalists and have been deliberately misleading about what they knew and when. But I think more broadly, Stacey, this speaks to the need for there to be a full forensic audit of all contracts, and we believe that the Auditor-General is the best place to do that. Interestingly, it was only a couple of months ago that the Auditor-General warned the Department, that's the Department for Infrastructure and Transport, that they do need to do something better to strengthen risk identification and escalation of any of those risks that have been identified. But We just think there's too, you know, it's very murky at the moment and we believe that doing a deep dive into every single contract is worthy just to make sure that there is trust in the South Australian community that we're not heading down the pathway of Victoria.
01:18:47
Speaker 4: And you don't think the ICAC would be able to do that?
01:18:50
Speaker 8: Well, it's unclear in the reporting to date that that's even something that the ICAC is looking at. From all we can tell, the Premier's written to the ICAC essentially trying to use the watchdog as a political shield when things have got a little bit too tough for him on this issue. asking them to look at processes and procedures around this type of thing. But it was just last week where the Premier said that this was a good example of good process working. And now he's asking the ICAC to review the processes that he said last week were all good. And I just think that when you look at how serious this got in Victoria, we just think that no stone can be left unturned. Whilst we welcome this type of review that the ICAC might be doing, it really doesn't get to the nub of the issue. And there's still, as I said, it's not a get-out-of-jail-free card for Labor. Don't forget, the minister came on your program, essentially claimed he knew nothing about it, and that he changed his tune a few days later and admitted that he'd been sitting on it for a number of weeks. Now, that does absolutely nothing to instill the trust of the people of South Australia. So we think that there needs to be an additional step and that the Auditor-General has.
01:20:00
Speaker 15: A role to play here.
01:20:02
Speaker 3: The government will be rightly whacked if any more bike infiltration is uncovered on this, um, or any further attempts, or if there's been, uh, lax procurement standards that get identified in a review like this. But as we sit here right now, is there anything that you can identify that could or should be done differently in terms of apportioning contracts of a project of this size that would actually prevent this? Because this specific example we're talking about, um, it strikes me as pretty difficult for a government to stop when you're talking about sub, sub, subcontractors and share agreements and people buying into businesses and so forth.
01:20:41
Speaker 7: It is.
01:20:41
Speaker 8: And as the Premier has said, these are very tricky, very tricky operators. But I'll give you another example, Will. The Advertiser reported last week that it was only a couple of years ago that Zancock Recruitment won a contract that's since expired. But the advertiser reported that the managing director of that company was named in the 2024 Watson Review into the Victorian CFMEU. So we've already seen examples where these types of people are getting their claws into our biggest infrastructure build. And again, that's why we need not only the auditor general to be looking into every single contract, but we also will be pushing on with our plans to have this independent construction industry commission that So we'll be doing that through the Parliament over the next couple of weeks as well.
01:21:29
Speaker 15: Okay.
01:21:29
Speaker 4: Ashton Hearn, thank you for your time.
01:21:38
Speaker 3: Well, this is going to be a big issue. The wound is cauterised somewhat if we don't get another one that gets found, but The perception exists and a report being commissioned means a report is going to be published and there's going to be evidence taken and there's going to be multiple steps along the journey that mean we're going to continue talking about this now. And I'm talking about that from a political– again, just separating talking about this as a political story and a taxpayers are exposed story, which is the thing we care about most as taxpayers.
01:22:12
Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
01:22:13
Speaker 3: In dissecting the political ramifications of this, this is going to bed in, this story.
01:22:18
Speaker 5: Although, to Roger's point on the text line, because we've had a huge response to this, Roger says, the public announcement of requesting ICAC to become involved gives the government and ministers free pass to say they can no longer comment and therefore not answer any further questions.
01:22:32
Speaker 4: Which is a great point, Roger.
01:22:34
Speaker 3: That is true.
01:22:36
Speaker 5: Andrew also comments on the chat with the Premier, I don't think I've heard the words prudent, prudence and prudently used so many times in just five minutes. Paul's not buying it. He thinks it sounds like backpedalling and a cover-up. Rick also makes an interesting point.
01:22:54
Speaker 4: Where was Rick's? He said, how dare you ask the wrong difficult question?
01:22:58
Speaker 5: We just saw a glimpse of Malinowskis under pressure, some very worrying issues raised in He says it's a thoughtful interview. Others not so happy about the question I asked at the end about sport. They'd rather sport and politics be kept separate.
01:23:10
Speaker 3: He's right to be grumpy and he should be grumpy and he should be disappointed with everyone who's had courage of this story because it has brought down a government. The nearest government to the one here in North Terrace has been brought to its knees by this issue. Everyone's been aware it's the potential to happen here. And when the first inkling of it comes out here, it's totally dismissed. No one's told. It's not escalated. Oh, it's passed on to the right authorities. But does anyone treat it like an issue that is ultimately going to require the ICAC to conduct an investigation, if that's where this goes, and the Premier to come on and play clean-up?
01:23:52
Speaker 5: The thing that surprised me, though, not that the Premier's grumpy about it, the thing he seemed most grumpy about was my question about AFL, though.
01:23:59
Speaker 4: He didn't seem.
01:24:00
Speaker 5: Very grumpy towards Joe Sokach compared to me asking him about sport.
01:24:04
Speaker 3: I think, what do they call that? What do psychologists call that? Transference?
01:24:10
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, sure, he makes a point that the AFL was going to make this announcement about the gather round fixture today, and they're going to do it regardless of what's happening in South Australian politics.
01:24:18
Speaker 4: But does the Premier have to be there to make the announcement? He has a sports minister. He has a tourism minister.
01:24:24
Speaker 5: Is it a coincidence that his former head of media is now working in publicity at the AFL?
01:24:30
Speaker 4: Is it a coincidence this is all happening today? Now, he says yes.
01:24:34
Speaker 5: Okay, sure, maybe we give him the benefit of the doubt, but does he have to be there to make that announcement?
01:24:39
Speaker 3: It's 90 minutes after, right? We're going to check traffic and talk Neil Diamond on the other side of this bright. Looking forward to this. A beautiful noise. The Neil Diamond musical is coming to Adelaide in May. You can join the wait list right now.
01:24:51
Speaker 1: Knockdown Bill 2 with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
01:25:00
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:25:04
Speaker 3: 23 minutes after 8, this is exciting. Neil Diamond fans, Stephen Rowe, I think he considers himself Adelaide's biggest Neil Diamond fan. I reckon we'll have listeners that would be at least sitting up on that pedestal with Stephen Rowe. This magnificent musical, A Beautiful Noise, gets remarkable reviews wherever it goes, and it is coming to Her Majesty's Theatre. Previews commencing Sunday the 23rd of May next year. Co-producer and promoter Paul Dainty joins us on 5AA Breakfast. Paul, good morning.
01:25:33
Speaker 21: Morning, Will.
01:25:34
Speaker 19: How are you?
01:25:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, this must be a labour of love, given your relationship with Neil.
01:25:38
Speaker 19: Oh, it sure is. I've had a relationship with Neil for 30-plus years. He's also godfather to my oldest son, which is, you know, wonderful. And we've done numerous successful, huge tours of Australia, and now the segue into bringing, you know, his life story to the stage with all those amazing songs is incredible.
01:25:59
Speaker 4: Did you plan it to be to the 50-year anniversary of Neil's first concert at Footy Park.
01:26:05
Speaker 13: Or did that just happen?
01:26:07
Speaker 19: I wish I could say we were that clever, but I think it just organically played out like that. But, yeah, it's been a wonderful journey with Neil, and I still talk to him every month or two. We have a Zoom. He's in the U.S., obviously, and not performing anymore. You know, he's a public knowledge. He's got some early-stage Parkinson's, and he's spoken about that publicly, but he's Still good to have a chat with him, and he's very excited and very aware of the show playing in Australia and loves Australia. So that's great.
01:26:38
Speaker 3: I can't remember what the reason was, Paul, but we asked our listeners, and we got heaps of recollections about that Neil Diamond concert here in Adelaide all those years ago. What do you remember about that tour? Did they all start blending into one?
01:26:51
Speaker 19: They do start, to be honest with you. I've got to be truthful here and say they do start to blend into one, yeah. And it's a long time ago, yeah.
01:26:59
Speaker 3: What are his thoughts on Australia, Paul?
01:27:02
Speaker 19: Oh, he loves it here. He's always had a bit of a special relationship here just because the size of the touring. I think the US, Australia, and then UK in that order have been his huge, huge markets for Neil. I mean, I think we sold over the journey when he was doing concerts. I gave him an award one year for having sold 3 million concert tickets in Australia, which is a pretty heady number.
01:27:28
Speaker 21: Amazing.
01:27:28
Speaker 19: You know, he would come over here and play, you know, a week or more in each arena in each city and then sometimes outdoors as well. People just love Neil. And he used to put on the best show.
01:27:41
Speaker 3: Do you think, so obviously we'll hear all the hits in the musical. Do you think people that love Neil Diamond will learn something about him?
01:27:50
Speaker 19: Oh, I think you'll learn, you know, I think this is one of the best, you know, there's been a lot of bio musicals on the stage. We did couple of years ago we did the Tina Turner musical and then Jersey Boys before that and I think this Neil Diamond A Court of Beautiful Noise as you know is probably one of the best ones it takes you through Neil's life from the beginning to now with all those 24 5 amazing anthemic songs that we all know woven into the story and I think people will be surprised about the depth of the story and what they learn about Neil through the show and We're playing in Melbourne right now, and it's just been off the charts in terms of the success of the show here. I mean, producers always gloat about how well their show is doing, but we're literally sold out every single night for six months in Melbourne. There's just nothing about no tickets available and the reaction to the show has just been overwhelming.
01:28:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've heard some great reviews from friends in Melbourne and people from Adelaide who have gone to Melbourne to see the show. So I know there'll be lots of people really grateful that it's coming here. What about Neil himself, because as you mentioned, his health issues, he's not performing anymore. He has said that he would perform until the day he dies if he could, if his body.
01:29:06
Speaker 19: Would let him.
01:29:06
Speaker 4: Does that mean this tribute to him is extra special and meaningful?
01:29:12
Speaker 19: Oh, totally, yeah. You know, this show was on Broadway and we were involved in the Broadway season and then obviously Australia is the first, which is nice, it's the first international production of the show outside.
01:29:22
Speaker 20: Of the US.
01:29:22
Speaker 19: Yeah. And it's very special to him. I mean, he was very involved in the creating of the show. It wasn't just he licensed his name and let everyone get on with it. Neil approved the script, was involved in the creative production of the show, the story, which songs were going to be used in the show. So he's like a producing partner on the show. So it's a real celebration of Neil's life. And as you say, you've had people tell you how great it is. And it's really very, very special.
01:29:55
Speaker 3: Is it true, Paul, or is this one of those internet things, that when the first play started its run on Broadway, Neil went to one of the shows and sang afterwards? Is that true?
01:30:06
Speaker 9: He did.
01:30:07
Speaker 19: He went to opening, yeah, he did, and I think you can find that on YouTube. He went to opening night and then sat in the box watching the show with his wife, Katie, and at the very end got up and they gave him a mic in the box and the cast were on stage taking bows at the end, and he sang... Sweet Caroline for the opening night audience. So pretty special.
01:30:27
Speaker 18: Oh, goodness. I'm so glad that's true. That was a goosebump moment, you know, one of those, you know, amazing. So, you know, Sweet Caroline's become that incredible anthem everywhere you go at sporting events and around the world. It's become something unique.
01:30:44
Speaker 3: It's going to be a great show. There's no doubt about it. Everyone who's seen it said precisely that. And it's coming here to Adelaide May next year. Paul, great to chat with you. Paul Dainty, the co-producer. of the Neil Diamond musical that you can, as we've been saying right throughout the morning, you can put yourself on the wait list to get tickets now. One thing you won't have to wait too much longer for is the release of the AFL Gather Round fixture. The Premier, Kate, when he was on with us, mentioned that that was something that was going to be reviewed a little bit later this morning. So what we thought, we've got 30 minutes before we find out what it is. 30 more minutes. Tell us your dream Thursday night fixture. Yeah, 8223 0000 or text us on 024808 1395. Now, you can make it however you want. If you're desperate to see West Coast take on Richmond on Thursday night, God bless you. 8223 0000, design your dream Thursday night opening gather round fixture and we'll compare it to what the AFL ultimately comes up with after nine o'clock this morning.
01:31:47
Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
01:31:55
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:32:01
Speaker 3: 21 minutes to nine. We're going to learn in 20 minutes time the gather round fixture for 2027. We're asking you to not predict, but tell us your dream Thursday night game, your dream Thursday night game. 8223 0000 is the number. We have Robbie Williams tickets to give away, ladies and gentlemen. Robbie Williams tickets are on sale now. The Britpop Tour heads to Adelaide Oval on the 7th of November for one incredible night. We've got a ticket for you and a friend. So two tickets. All you need to do is tell us your dream Thursday night fixture for next year's Gather Round. Robbie Williams is back bringing the Britpop Tour to Adelaide Oval. Tickets are on sale from today. Head to FrontierTouring.com. to get yours. So someone who rings in right now and tells us their dream Thursday night fixture is going to be in the running to win. Well, someone will win those Robbie Williams tickets here and now this morning.
01:32:50
Speaker 4: So we've got tickets every day this week.
01:32:52
Speaker 3: Tickets every day this week to Robbie Williams fans. Make sure you're tuning in because lots of tickets to give away.
01:32:57
Speaker 12: Wow.
01:32:58
Speaker 4: That's massive.
01:32:59
Speaker 3: I really like Rob's suggestion on the text line for the Thursday night dream fixture. Rob says St Kilda v The Suns. Bill it as the coach killer match. The losing coach has to resign at the final siren. I reckon you would have won Robbie Williams tickets if you called in with that one, Rob. 8223 0000. You can text in your thoughts doing 024808 1395.
01:33:21
Speaker 4: Scott's got a different idea. Morning, guys.
01:33:23
Speaker 5: My dream Thursday night match would be the Crows and the New York Knicks. It'd be nice to see the Crows actually win an important game. P.S., this endorsement does not guarantee a Crows victory.
01:33:34
Speaker 3: I love the Crows. And, Scott, I love you, but I hate the New York Knicks with a passion. And watching the Knicks have to play Adelaide in a game of Australian Rules football, I would enjoy immensely. I won't go into too much detail of who I'd like to see run through who, but it would be a.
01:33:48
Speaker 10: Lot of fun.
01:33:48
Speaker 3: Let's go to Cathy in Thibodeau. Cathy, what's your dream Thursday night clash?
01:33:53
Speaker 19: I reckon Carlton, Collingwood. That will bring the crowd in.
01:33:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a bumper one.
01:33:59
Speaker 4: No local team, interesting.
01:34:01
Speaker 3: No local team, but both sides, Carlton up and about, Josh Fraser, Collingwood, retooled Nick Dacos. That would be a big Thursday night game. Both sides expecting to make the eight next year or the 10. Sue in Largs North, good morning.
01:34:15
Speaker 16: Carolina Crows, Crows and Port Adelaide.
01:34:18
Speaker 3: Showdown Thursday night, Sue.
01:34:21
Speaker 7: Yes.
01:34:22
Speaker 4: We haven't had that yet for gathering, have we?
01:34:23
Speaker 3: No, we haven't. I think they've been... Because what was the original thinking was... Well, I think the original thinking was a lack of faith in the idea of Gather Round, to be honest with you. Because if you had them all in one game, well, that's one less game you're going to have a big crowd to. But hasn't it been proven that all games get a good crowd at Gather Round? Leonie, good morning. Good morning.
01:34:45
Speaker 8: Hawthorne in Port, we'd like to see. Just because it'd be nice to see Port on a Thursday night. That'd be great.
01:34:51
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you'll find out in about 20 minutes time, Leonie, whether it's going to happen.
01:34:55
Speaker 10: Hawthorne.
01:34:56
Speaker 17: Yeah, I doubt it very much.
01:34:57
Speaker 3: That's the Ken Hinckley Memorial airplane game, Leonie. Yes.
01:35:01
Speaker 21: Yes.
01:35:02
Speaker 8: And hopefully they give the money back to Ken Hinckley.
01:35:04
Speaker 3: There, they should. They should give the money back. That was ludicrous, that whole thing. Ray in Semaphore Park, good morning.
01:35:10
Speaker 13: Good morning.
01:35:10
Speaker 23: Yes, I've got five pounds of meat to waste.
01:35:13
Speaker 14: It's all done by one point.
01:35:15
Speaker 3: So you go Port Bulldogs on the Thursday night, Ray?
01:35:18
Speaker 1: My word, yes.
01:35:21
Speaker 3: Look, I appreciate that Port people are going to want to have the Zach Butters revenge game. I think there'll be a lot of eyeballs on it. My fear is, Port fans, rebuild year for Port next year. Western Bulldogs retooling for a shot at the Premiership. Is there a danger it might not be as competitive a Thursday night fixture as we'd want? I'm just throwing it out there.
01:35:42
Speaker 4: You reckon the Crows are going to be any more competitive next year?
01:35:46
Speaker 3: Well, as long as it's not a final, we'll be all right. Karen, good morning.
01:35:52
Speaker 11: Good morning, guys.
01:35:54
Speaker 7: I'm wanting to see the Crows and St.
01:35:56
Speaker 22: Kilda.
01:35:57
Speaker 7: I'm a Crows and my husband goes to St.
01:35:59
Speaker 11: Kilda, so that would be fantastic.
01:36:00
Speaker 3: That's a great reason, Karen. Is he from Victoria originally, is he?
01:36:04
Speaker 6: No.
01:36:05
Speaker 10: He's a deaf.
01:36:05
Speaker 11: I'll be through and through.
01:36:06
Speaker 3: So why did he pick St. Kilda? Talk about a lifetime of pain.
01:36:10
Speaker 16: Yeah, they won their last grand final the year he was born.
01:36:13
Speaker 11: That's what he reckons.
01:36:16
Speaker 23: So 1966.
01:36:17
Speaker 18: He's been waiting.
01:36:18
Speaker 13: All his life.
01:36:20
Speaker 3: Well and truly overdue. Thank you, Karen. Morris, good morning.
01:36:25
Speaker 14: Good morning.
01:36:25
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'd like to see Grand Final replay, including.
01:36:29
Speaker 14: Wolfie time at exactly the same time.
01:36:33
Speaker 3: That is a brilliant suggestion. So irrespective of the score in the game, with four and a half minutes left or whatever it is, you play Wolfie time. Oh, that's going to take some beating. I like that idea. Reno, good morning.
01:36:47
Speaker 13: Good morning, guys.
01:36:48
Speaker 14: Yeah.
01:36:49
Speaker 13: Carlton versus Kangaroo. The two new coaches, they've all spent up big pre-season.
01:36:55
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:36:55
Speaker 13: Let's see how good they are.
01:36:57
Speaker 3: Carlton, Roos. Well, we might have to be giving away a few free tickets to that one because they're a small but passionate supporter group in North Melbourne. Trevor, good morning.
01:37:09
Speaker 11: How are you going?
01:37:12
Speaker 13: I'd be keen on a grand final replay.
01:37:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do the grand. What are your thoughts on Wolfie time being played at the same time, Trevor?
01:37:18
Speaker 23: Absolutely bring it on.
01:37:21
Speaker 3: I think we might have hit on something here. Any late suggestions? 8223 0000 or text us on 04808 1395. Your dream Thursday night gather round fixture because the whole thing is going to be released in 15, 20 minutes' time.
01:37:35
Speaker 5: Statsman Ben Jordan says the Crows and Saints works because it's the 20th anniversary of the 97 grand final.
01:37:41
Speaker 3: Oh, there you go. Yeah, I don't mind that.
01:37:44
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:37:45
Speaker 3: Does it feel like it's– well, it could be the Naziah Wanganine Miller Cup as well.
01:37:50
Speaker 4: Oh, yep.
01:37:51
Speaker 3: I can talk myself into that one, Ben. Play all week of 1997 highlights. Darren Jarman's last term. Yep. Andrew McLeod. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'll pay that, Ben. That's not bad.
01:38:01
Speaker 4: Andrew hates Thursday games, so he says happy if Port's not playing.
01:38:05
Speaker 3: A lot of people, people with kids, people that are outside of the city feel that way as well. It always feels like the world's biggest spectacle in the city. But yeah, if you're out, it makes it a no-go zone. They're late games for kids to get to.
01:38:16
Speaker 19: They are late, yeah.
01:38:16
Speaker 3: You can't go to school, you know, get up early for school. Have we done, Mark?
01:38:20
Speaker 7: Nope.
01:38:20
Speaker 3: You there, Mark?
01:38:21
Speaker 13: G'day, how are you?
01:38:23
Speaker 3: Good, Mark. What have you got for us?
01:38:24
Speaker 23: Good, I've got Geelong and the Giants, Toby Green versus his old side.
01:38:29
Speaker 2: Totally.
01:38:30
Speaker 3: Toby Green revenge game.
01:38:32
Speaker 23: Yeah, the Toby Green Cup.
01:38:34
Speaker 3: You've got a feeling Toby might have a bit to say on that day.
01:38:36
Speaker 13: He might belt a few as well.
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Speaker 3: He might kick four and get suspended for four. Yeah, okay, I'd watch that. Thank you, Mark. John, good morning. You there, John?
01:38:50
Speaker 18: I'm not sure.
01:38:51
Speaker 3: My name's Sam.
01:38:53
Speaker 15: All right.
01:38:53
Speaker 3: Well, Sam, you're listed here as John, but let's go Sam. Good morning.
01:38:57
Speaker 13: Well, I'm not sure if anyone's thought of this. I'm not even a Port supporter, but Port versus the Bulldogs.
01:39:02
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:39:02
Speaker 13: That is the transfer.
01:39:04
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:39:05
Speaker 4: Good one.
01:39:05
Speaker 3: I think that feels like it has to be a fixture for Gather Round one way or the other. That's going to be the most intrigue.
01:39:11
Speaker 4: It has to either start or close the weekend.
01:39:14
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:39:15
Speaker 4: It's a big one.
01:39:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:39:16
Speaker 5: Historically in Gather Round, they've had the Crows and Port either start or end.
01:39:22
Speaker 20: Is that right?
01:39:23
Speaker 3: I think Crows have always started.
01:39:24
Speaker 4: Always started and Port's always ended.
01:39:25
Speaker 3: Port always ends it, yeah.
01:39:26
Speaker 15: Right.
01:39:27
Speaker 3: Because they have that double header on the Sunday, and so the Port game last guarantees you can have a lot of people there.
01:39:33
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:39:33
Speaker 3: Basically. And they would for that game.
01:39:35
Speaker 4: I wonder if they'll try something new this year or keep to that format.
01:39:38
Speaker 3: Well, we're going to find out very shortly. Who did we like for the Robbie Williams tickets this morning?
01:39:43
Speaker 6: Oh.
01:39:43
Speaker 5: I think her idea ended up getting a bit of support to the end. So I'll go Karen. She said Crows and Saints.
01:39:48
Speaker 3: Karen, you've got the Robbie Williams tickets coming your way. Robbie Williams is back and bringing his Britpop tour at Adelaide Oval. Tickets are on sale from today. Head to FrontierTouring.com to get yours. We're going to check traffic and come back in just a moment. A beautiful noise. We spoke about it a short time ago with Paul Dainty. This sounds like it's going to be terrific. The Neil Diamond musical is on its way to Adelaide in May. We keep reading out. the date that the previews start. But obviously there's a run of shows after that in May. And if you want to get along, you can join the waitlist now.
01:40:18
Speaker 1: Knockdown Bill 2 with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes. They do it all for you.
01:40:26
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:40:31
Speaker 3: Eight to nine. Well, another day, another challenge to the MotoGP redevelopment. This time the South East City Residents Association has announced intentions to take legal action against against the project to redevelop the parklands for the purpose of hosting the MotoGP there. David Klinberg, the chairperson of the South East City Residents Association, joins us. David, good morning to you. I'm intrigued that you're of a view that there is protections within the Act that would allow you to pursue this. What precisely do you think would allow you to put a stop to a project like this?
01:41:10
Speaker 13: Anyway, good morning. Good morning.
01:41:12
Speaker 3: Good morning.
01:41:13
Speaker 13: We have been studying the two acts over a little while now, and we believe that we have a very good action to propose to the Supreme Court. I'm not going to go into any details. When it actually gets filed in the court, it will all become clear to you. But we're quite confident that.
01:41:40
Speaker 13: We've got a good case.
01:41:42
Speaker 5: Okay. Were you deterred at all by the recent case in regards to the North Adelaide golf course and the, well, offer by the government to settle and the complainants being asked to.
01:41:56
Speaker 4: Pay $ 150, 000? Did that deter you at all?
01:42:00
Speaker 13: No, not at all. Look, we think this should all be in the public interest. We think the government's actually trying to bully us people away from taking action, but it's not deterring us. Funds are rolling in. I noticed our letter was in the advertisers this morning, so that'll be another burst, I'm sure, much wider audience.
01:42:27
Speaker 3: So how many people are you speaking for, David?
01:42:30
Speaker 13: Well, we've got.
01:42:32
Speaker 13: I don't actually have the precise number, but some hundreds have contributed. And, you know, every day is a different day. Money kind of rolls in. We're only a little organisation that's taking a bit of an effort to keep up with all of this. But anyway, we've got a valiant treasurer doing that.
01:42:55
Speaker 3: So what's the heart of your concern about, is it the changes to the parklands? Because you guys there in the southeast, it's not like you're not accustomed to motorsport disrupting your lives.
01:43:05
Speaker 13: Well, we actually are. We went through the original Grand Prix and the BP race seems to be conducted quite satisfactorily. We've got a number of members that actually support the supercars, but hate the idea of the MotoGP. Look, for people that are critical of our approach, I just encourage them to walk around the park lands and have a look at all the trees that have red ribbons around them that are going to come out if the government is successful and particularly pours in the olive grove which the government rubbishes because they say they're not natives but this is one of the most peaceful parts of the park lands and basically the whole thing is going to come out Look, there's a perfectly good place for the MotoGP. We're not against it, but it should be at the bend.
01:44:08
Speaker 5: So I just wanted to pick up on something there, the red ribbons, because for a while we've seen the yellow ribbons on a lot of trees in that area of the city, and that was more of a message being sent by protesters. Are you saying that the trees with the red ribbons are the ones you suspect are intended to.
01:44:23
Speaker 4: Be cut down?
01:44:24
Speaker 13: Yes, yes.
01:44:26
Speaker 15: Okay.
01:44:27
Speaker 13: I think they've been done in two lots. The yellow ribbons were to raise awareness and demonstrating how important some of the trees are, but the red ribbons are the ones that are in danger.
01:44:40
Speaker 3: All right. Good stuff. David, well, we will await the detail of the challenge and the legal footing that it stands on. David Klinberg, the South East City Residents Association chairperson on another legal challenge to the MotoGP.
01:44:56
Speaker 14: Apparently they are.
01:44:56
Speaker 4: Used to motorsport events in that part of the city, Will.
01:44:59
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was saying, wasn't it?
01:45:00
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:45:00
Speaker 3: That was, you know, sometimes.
01:45:02
Speaker 4: A bit of miscommunication.
01:45:03
Speaker 3: Sometimes they crack me phone lines, you know. A few texts. Do we read any of them? Or are they all too uncharitable?
01:45:16
Speaker 4: Give the possums some earmuffs.
01:45:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, give the possums some earmuffs, says Caesar. All right. Thank you for all those texts coming through. We do appreciate them. But there is a bit of support for MotoGP still. Yeah, people like it. On the text line. And furthermore, there is a natural bit of, even beyond your position on the MotoGP, how do I put this politically, there is some healthy rivalry between the various locations in Adelaide, and often there is an absence of sympathy for people in the east. Okay? Is that a polite way of putting it?
01:45:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. And there's also a bit of an anti-NIMBYism thing.
01:45:53
Speaker 3: Yes.
01:45:53
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what you're NIMBYing. There's a bit of an anti-NIMBY rhetoric. If you're NIMBYing anything, people will NIMBY you. I don't want NIMBYs in my backyard.
01:46:04
Speaker 3: There, that's right. We need to come up with a different acronym for that. Thank you for the texts. All right. Let's have a look at the fuel situation. It's better to be a member with RAA Road Service. The cheap spots this morning, the United Melrose Park South Road, $ 2. 11. 9. The Ampol Cumberland Park Crossroad, $ 2. 17. 9. The United Paraka, $ 2.
01:46:26
Speaker 17: 21. 3.
01:46:26
Speaker 3: The good news is there's a few you can get actually under $ 2. 20 this week, so that's a positive start to the week. Not great news for diesel, though.
01:46:35
Speaker 15: $ 2.
01:46:35
Speaker 3: 64. 5, the cheapest you can get it. That's on Prospect Road, the United Blair Athol. Have a wonderful Monday, folks. We'll find out about Gather Round very, very shortly, and we'll catch you tomorrow morning for six. I was trying to find my way along
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Speaker 2: I'm just letting yous know