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Dan Grossman is SVP of Marketing at Doctronic and founder of Antidote Group, a fractional CMO and advisory practice. He previously led consumer marketing at Snapchat, brand and product marketing at Sword Health, and held VP roles at NTWRK and VaynerMedia earlier in his career.
In this conversation, Dan explains why treating acquisition and retention as separate problems with separate owners and separate budgets consistently costs companies more than they realize.
This discussion also covers what lifecycle marketing can realistically do versus what the product itself has to deliver, how to compete when a larger player can simply outspend you, and where AI creates genuine leverage in marketing today versus where it just produces mediocre output faster.
=== Listen to the full episode to learn:
- How the connected-funnel playbook works in practice—and why it only works if the product is actually good
- What lifecycle marketing can and can't do when the product is the thing driving retention
- How to compete against a bigger, better-funded competitor without simply spending more
Learn how to think about marketing as one system rather than a set of siloed functions pulling in different directions.
=== Jump to:
[01:18] Why acquisition and retention can't be separated
[06:57] Product as the foundation: "the fastest way to ruin a bad product is good marketing"
[10:28] Where lifecycle marketing fits: guiding people to value
[12:58] Education, uncertainty, and the psychology of retention
[17:15] Competing with bigger brands: niching down vs. casting a wide net
[21:56] Loved and hated: why polarizing brands win (Southwest, Liquid Death, Walmart)
[27:52] AI in marketing: "just because you can doesn't mean you should"
[33:32] How fast AI is moving — and why human adoption still lags
[38:08] Closing thought: it's people first
=== Connect with Dan:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danmgrossman/
- Website: https://www.doctronic.ai
=== Resources:
Crossing the Chasm by Geoffrey Moore: https://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Chasm-Marketing-High-Tech-Mainstream/dp/0062292986
=== About the Everything Clicks podcast:
Everything Clicks is a podcast about customer experiences that wow consumers while driving profitable growth. Each week, we dissect the strategies and tactics of top B2C marketers at leading Fortune 5000 companies.
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