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Hi, everybody. Thanks for joining us today on our Little
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Italy of L.A.
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Podcast.
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I'm your host, Deborah Zara Coppelt. And joining us today
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is Francesca Fonti. Thank you so much for being here, Francesca.
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Thank you for having me. Thank you.
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Francesca is such a delight. You are an actress, a
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voiceover actor, and also a writer. And you most recently
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appeared in the Oscar-nominated film Luca. It's an animated film
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by Disney, Pixar, and I just love it. And you
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play what? The village cop, right?
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I do, yes. She gives tickets.
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I know when I saw her, I thought, oh my gosh,
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I just ran into somebody like her about a week ago.
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Talk to me about that role and how you felt
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when you found out this film was nominated for an Oscar.
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And also, how did you get this role as an
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animated actor? We'd love to know.
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Well, yeah, Luca was really such a gift, such an
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unexpected gift. It came from a friend. She referred me
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to the casting director and I auditioned, you know, we
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just sent the voiceover for a few characters I did.
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I got the cop and it was just such a
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delight to work with Enrico Casarosa. He's such an angel.
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We had so much fun working together. And with the
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casting director, too. She's just amazing, Terry Douglas.
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Go ahead.
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I didn't have many expectations. From what I saw when
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I was working, it looked amazing. I loved what I saw.
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But you work, you don't see much. I have a
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small role. I didn't see the entire movie. And then
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the movie came out and it got such an amazing,
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a lot of attention because it is a wonderful movie.
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And when I watched it, my God, I have to say,
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I cried. Then I was laughing, then I was crying,
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then I was laughing. And a lot of people felt
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that way.
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It is such a beautiful, beautiful story from the very
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beginning until the credits start rolling, right? And I too
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was really crying there. I was... for anyone who hasn't
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seen it please make sure i think what it's on
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amazon um or is it on.
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Disney plus it's on disney plus yes yeah it's.
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On disney plus but it's a beautiful story but it's
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an animated film and i know you've done a lot
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of voice work is that tough to get roles in
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voice work you've done what madagascar you've done all sorts
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of things would you tell us about it.
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Yeah well um You know, for me, it was a
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little bit of, I never pursued it, honestly. It always
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just happened to me. People would refer me for a role.
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And I think the reason why is because I used
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to do a one-woman show, a comedy, crazy one-woman show
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where I was alone on stage, but I played eventually
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18 different characters. You know, I played four women, four
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different women, but these four women would interact with other
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non-present characters. So I would do the voice for those
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non-present characters. The total was 18, and they were pretty
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crazy voices, you know, like animation voices. So I think
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that's why somehow voiceover kept coming to me, yeah.
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Now, you are from Italy. You were born in Rome, right?
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Just outside of Rome?
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Mm-hmm, in the province of Rome, yeah.
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Now, on our show, we love to sort of dial
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it back a little and find out a little bit
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about what were you like as a kid? Because I
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often say whatever you were like as a kid sort
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of is the reason why we all end up doing
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what we do. Did you always want to act? Were
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you doing this sort of stuff when you were in Italy?
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Well, as a child, I was very, very shy, Deborah.
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I was incredibly shy, yeah.
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Yeah, but so many actors are, don't you think? I
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know so many performers, and when you get to meet
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them in person, they're usually off in the corner somewhere,
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and people are so surprised to learn that, gosh, why
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aren't they on? Why aren't they performing? And it's like,
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because usually when you're not performing, you're kind of in
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your head, right?
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Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, when you're on stage,
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you're playing the characters, you're not being yourself, so... A
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lot of people wonder about that. A lot of people say,
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he's so reserved. How is that possible? It is very
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possible because, you know, I'm not being myself. I'm just
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playing those 18 characters. And then I go back home.
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I go back to myself. Right. But as a kid,
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I actually wanted to be a dancer. I had, yeah,
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my first dream was being a dancer. My parents sent
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me to do martial arts, so I got a little
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bit messed up.
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You know. Well, at least you were strong.
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Yeah, and I can defend myself for sure. But I
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still love to dance and yeah, I've taken a lot
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of classes. I've been in dance theater kind of companies
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just for fun, just for fun.
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Right, because it was your first love, right? So, you know,
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now let's go forward a little bit. It's 1993. You
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move here to the States because you wanted to try acting, right?
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What was that like? It must have been a little scary.
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It's one thing to move from one part of the
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country to another. But to move over here from Italy,
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that's hard, right?
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Actually, it was not scary to me.
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To me, when I first came here, you know, it
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was really La La Land for me in the sense
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of like a paradise, a surreal dream, beautiful place.
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Yes, I came from Italy to follow an acting teacher
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to do, you know, just study with him for a
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few months to try it out. And I just fell
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in love with everything, with the place, with the people,
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with the acting. Yeah, I went back through. I just
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left my place, everything, and I moved here. I was very,
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very excited to be here, actually, at the beginning. Yeah.
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Now, you started with some pretty phenomenal experiences. people right
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could you talk to us a little bit about that
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and also as part of that question I want to
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know when you came here and you were reading for
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roles did you have to get rid of the Italian
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accent did you play it up like how does that
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go for someone who's coming here from Italy who wants
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to act.
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Yeah I know the Italian accent is still scary to
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many people you know it's like for some people it's
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fine oh it's you it's who you are But for
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some people, it's you must lose the accent. And I
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understand that. And I did work a lot on speech classes.
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I told you before I had my son, I had
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almost lost my accent. But then I had my son.
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And for me, it was very important to give him
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the Italian. And I was always talking Italian to him
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to give him the language. And he's actually fluent in Italian. And,
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you know, all my friends, teenagers do not speak Italian.
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They can understand it, but they don't speak it because
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they didn't have a mother like me. They would just
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be on top of it and make him speak it.
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in English and I would just tell him, tell me
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in Italian, tell me in Italian. So it was hard.
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I'm glad of it. I'm glad you did that with
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him because, you know, when my folks came over, it was, well,
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they didn't come over, my grandparents did. You know, it
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was like, no, no, no, no, no. You're speaking English only.
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I'm of that generation where we didn't learn. And now
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people that are teaching their kids, it's like, no, no, no,
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speak Italian, speak Italian back to me. So that's very important.
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So again, you were at least speaking it at home.
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So you were keeping up your language, but, you know,
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did it ever prevent you from getting any roles or
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were you able to lose the accent because you had
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to sort of assimilate into a role?
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Well, I'm sure, yeah, it's probably still a problem for
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some people, as I told you, but some people are
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very open to it now. You know, there is, we
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want diversity now everywhere.
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That should extend to accents too, because, and in my opinion,
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I do prefer a movie when I hear accents. It's
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so much more real, right? It's like real life instead
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of just old stereotypes, one way of speaking, which we
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don't have anymore.
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You know, if you think about it, talk about old
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stereotypes in Hollywood, right? It used to be the beautiful, gorgeous,
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glamorous actress. And now I really do think that we're
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getting to a point where real people, real people, we've
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got to see people like us, right? Accents and all.
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warts and all is so important because we feel like
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we relate to the people. in the film.
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And also, can I add one thing? If it's really
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a role where I must lose the accent, I have
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a terrific, amazing speech coach. And if I work with them,
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John Sperry is amazing. I can lose the accent.
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Now, one of the first roles you got here, right,
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when you came to LA was in the theater. And
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I know theater is truly your first love. Could you
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tell us about that? And you also love the one
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woman show. You enjoy that. Tell us about that.
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Yeah, I got here and I had so much to learn.
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So I started studying with some amazing teachers, but also
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the best way to get into the acting is really
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to join a theater company and just do that all
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the time. You know, you just read plays all the time,
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you practice with other actors, you do shows, you are
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in rehearsals all the time. It's a nice, it's a
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very pure memory that I have of that time. I
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really like it a lot.
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It's all about- Yeah, a one-woman show though is very intimate.
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It's all about you on the stage, right? You are
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carrying the entire play, all the dialogue, everything. Is that
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difficult or is it something that just comes to you? Like,
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how do you do that?
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I would say it's difficult, but it's possible. And I'm
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going to tell you a little story if I can. Yeah.
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The first time they asked me to do a one-woman
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show was in 1997. Dario Fo, Italian writer, won the
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Nobel Prize and the Italian Institute of Culture in Los
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Angeles wanted to celebrate his Nobel Prize and wanted to
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put up a show written by Dario Fo for three
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nights at the Institute. I had done the show previously,
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the same show, but it's four different characters and we
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were four different actresses. So I was just playing 25
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minutes of the show, of the entire show. And I
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remember the director of the Italian Institute of Culture called me,
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Enzo Coniglio, and he asked me to do the entire
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show by myself. And my first answer was, no, I
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can't do the entire show by myself. It's impossible. And
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he was like, why? And I'm like, Enzo, I can't.
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It's like it's done with other actresses, and that's how
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we do it. And he just kept saying, why? Why?
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And he said, okay, let's just think about it and
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let's talk again tomorrow. And I spent all night thinking,
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how can I do the entire show? Literally, I didn't sleep.
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And I had a friend that just told me, what
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are you doing? You are an actor, you wanna be
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an actress, just do the show. So I woke up
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in the morning, I called Anson and I said, I'm
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doing it, okay. But I really had nightmares for a
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long time of, you know, it's going to be a disaster.
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I'm going to have to move away from L.A.
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Yeah, yeah. I was really scared. But then once you
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do it, once you do a one-woman show, once it's
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such an amazing experience, you just want to do it forever.
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And I did it for a long, long time.
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You said it's an amazing experience. Explain that to us,
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because believe me, most of us will never know what
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that's like.
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Well, you get on stage, and you know you'll be
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on your own for almost two hours, and you have
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to make people laugh. In my show, there are four
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different characters. Three are comedy, and one is drama. So
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they would laugh, laugh, laugh for the first half hour.
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And then they would cry. That was really heavy drama piece.
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need a lot of preparation. You just need to get
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in and however you want to prepare, but you have
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to prepare. To me, I could never do it just like, OK,
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let's get on stage and do it now.
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least three hours before the show.
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Wow, and an incredible memory. I remember the little bit
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of theater that I did in high school and college.
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It's like somebody had to have little note cards off
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to the side because I was so nervous I couldn't remember.
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So it's a good thing I didn't become an actor
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because I wouldn't be able to do what you do.
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So that's pretty outstanding. Let's talk a little bit about
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some of the amazing people that you have acted with.
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One of my favorites, right? Daniel Day-Lewis in Nine. Could
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you talk to us about that?
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Yeah, that was a small role too, but it was
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such an intense day with Daniel, two days with Daniel Day-Lewis.
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And he's such a doll too. He's so nice, so supportive.
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I remember that when the time came from our close-ups,
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he didn't have to be there, but he stayed. He said, no, no, no,
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I'm going to stay. I'm going to give them the lines.
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And he was right in front of me, giving me
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the lines for my closeups. I thought that was so sweet.
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And don't you find sometimes some of the greatest actors,
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the greatest writers and directors, they are the most giving,
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aren't they?
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Yeah. Yes, it's true. It's true. And they have a
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special energy about them. Um, The reason reason, I think,
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why they are who they are. Yeah, totally.
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When you walk on a set and there is Daniel Day-Lewis,
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are you immediately really nervous? I mean, yeah, there you go.
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I just hear my heart. Yeah, yeah. That's why I
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have to prepare. The same thing for the one woman show.
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If you get up on stage in front of so
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many people, your heart just starts pumping like crazy. But
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if you prepare, and you breathe, and you do your
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own thing, then you're just centered.
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American Crime Story. You played Gianni Versace's mother. What a role.
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Tell us about that.
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Well, that was amazing. Unfortunately, the best scenes of what
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I shot there was that they were left behind. You know,
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I played Franco Versace when he was 10 years old,
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and that's what you see. And then I played scenes
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with Edgar Ramirez when Gianni Versace was 30 years old.
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And this scene, it was just amazing, amazing. And one
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thing I'm really happy about is that they had to
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leave it out of the final cut, but the director
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gave an interview And he said that his biggest regret
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was to leave those scenes out because they were really amazing.
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It was when he was 30 years old and he
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opened his first store in Milan. He was from Calabria,
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from the south. His mama was from Calabria and she
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was a dressmaker. She taught him everything. So he recreated
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her store in Calabria in Milan. And the scene is
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about when he actually takes her from Calabria to Milan
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and he opens the store and she walks into the
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store and it's just exactly like her store in Calabria. Wow.
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The center of Milan. And so I was crying and
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he started crying and we were hugging and we were
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touching these dresses and fabrics. It was just so emotional,
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so beautiful. And then we started a big argument, you know,
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because they wanted a big Italian argument.
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A big Italian argument, really?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were arguing then about what to
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do with the dress. You know, I want it short,
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I want it longer. You know, just like mom and
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son argument. But yeah, those scenes were really amazing and
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we'll never see them because they were cut out.
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Yeah. but there were other scenes with you in that
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magnificent piece.
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It wants me to get amazing too.
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Yeah. Oh yeah. Did you ever meet anyone from the family?
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Like his sister, Donatella, have you ever?
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No, no, I haven't met anybody.
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Yeah. Because they, that entire family, that his story, everything,
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it's very fascinating to me. And to be in that
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space where you get to play his mom, I would
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think is quite extraordinary. Did you feel like you really
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knew them?
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Well, I felt special. I felt, my God, I'm playing
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Jenny Versace's mom. It was like such a big responsibility.
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And I didn't have much material about the mom. Because
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of the age, there was not much material on the web, pictures. So, yeah,
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I felt the pressure a little bit, but then I
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had that beautiful child to work with. He was such
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an amazing actor. He's an amazing actor. And, you know,
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he had a struggle because he was, he wanted to
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be a dressmaker at 10 years old in Calabria. So
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that came with some struggles and yeah.
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Beautiful, beautiful story. Beautiful story. Um, Someone else that you
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are thrilled to have worked with is one of my
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personal favorites, Francis Ford Coppola. I want to talk a
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little bit about the piece that you worked on with him.
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He handpicked you, right? And I also want you to
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tell me and tell our audience a wonderful story about
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you going up to his vineyard in Northern California. Would
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you tell us all about him?
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, he's definitely number one on
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my list of people that I admire, that I'm grateful for,
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and two, he's just an amazing talent, amazing energy. I
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told you I went to the first audition. He was
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there in person at the very first audition. I've never
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seen anything like that. I walked into the room thinking
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someone is just going to tape my audition. And there
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is Francis Ford Coppola sitting on the desk like a
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little child. Wow.
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What was that like? I mean, he's like one.
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Of those, oh my gosh. Yeah, very surreal. Very surreal
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that you walk out and you think, did it just happen?
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Did I just meet Francis Ford Coppola and talk to
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him for 20 minutes? But then the amazing thing was
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the callback. At the second audition, we were about, I
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don't know, something between 20 and 30 people. And he
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kept us there for five hours. For five hours, we
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were improvising and dancing and singing and talking in dialect
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from Naples. it was there too. I walked out and
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I thought, my God, the best five hours of my
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life as an actor, you know, uh, hard to describe,
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but just an amazing gift. And then I got the role.
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So I got to play with him for four weeks.
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Where did you film? Where did you film?
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We filmed at UCLA, the studios inside UCLA for four weeks,
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experimental project. Um, he was experimenting live cinema. So we
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had 40 cameras on all the time. He picked me,
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I think, because of my theater experience, because when you
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do live cinema with 40 cameras on, it's really like
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doing live stage, you know, theater.
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Well, there is something about an actor and actress who
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come from theater. right? You can feel that whether it's
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a TV show that they're in or a film, there's
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a certain quality to the work, I believe. And I'm
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sure that's what he picked up on in you, as
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you said, right?
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Yeah, I mean, we used to work really, really hard,
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you know, in theater and you just, you really sweat it.
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And of course, we have to make adjustments to be
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on camera, you know, everything has to become smaller. But
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there is that amount of effort that we are used
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to put in the work that, yeah, I think makes
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the difference. And then after we worked on Distant Vision,
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the experimental project is called Distant Vision, and you can
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find it on IMDb. After we worked on Distant Vision,
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because I write, I showed him some of my writing
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and he said, you know, he complimented me about my writing.
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And one day he asked me to go up to Sonoma.
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He has restaurants, winery, resort. And he asked me to rewrite.
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He's such an amazing perfectionist. He said, look, it's not
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dinner theater, but it's something similar. I've been doing it
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for many years, but I feel the evening has lost
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some energy. Would you go up and rewrite it? and
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basically direct the waiters like if they were a dysfunctional
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Italian family. Wow. So I go up to Sonoma for
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two weeks and I find out that the place is
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just always packed for that event. It's like it's always overbooked.
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There are always like 30 people in line trying to
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get in, but he thinks he lost the energy, you know?
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Wait a minute, and this is at his vineyard, right?
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Yeah for people who haven't been there you must visit
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it's extraordinary and I've been there a few times actually
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and I remember the first time this is before I
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had met him there he was just sitting there he
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very you know he lives there often right it's one
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of his homes and very often he'll just be there
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so it's quite an experience everybody to go up there
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but anyway go.
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Ahead really no really because it's also it's not just
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a restaurant it's not that you just go there and
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I'm You can put the winery, there is a pool,
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like resort style pool and cabins. And it's great. It's
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an amazing place.
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But when I got there, you know, I was curious
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to find out, you know, I have to write, rewrite
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this evening. So I wanted to know what was about,
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what they were doing currently and who wrote it originally.
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And they told me he did. Francis wrote the original
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so I was like oh my god I have to
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rewrite something that Francis Ford Coppola wrote so I came
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up with a scenario of a crazy all gone wrong
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wedding everything was wrong even.
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And that's real that's for sure real that's happened.
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Yeah that happens exactly that happens a lot but in
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this one at the end at the very end it
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culminates with the fact that the bride is pregnant and
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the groom doesn't know. And so it's like a big mess.
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But that was so much fun. That place, you're right,
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you have to visit because it's an experience that is
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so different for us. We live in LA, everything is
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a little bit boxed. We are so self-conscious and we
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go to our auditions or to our meetings. And it's
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all kind of prepped, right? Yeah, it's different there. Yeah,
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people are just so relaxed and so just into having fun.
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I thought, you know, people would just be sitting there
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watching this event, but everybody just got into it. There
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were people, at some point, there were people standing on
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the chairs going like, go and get married, go and
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get streaming.
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I love that. Oh, that's wonderful. And he loved it?
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He loved, everybody loved it. It was a lot of fun.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I wonder if they're still doing, I wonder if they're
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still doing the wedding.
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I don't know. You've got, we've got to find out.
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That's a road trip for us, Francesca. That's a road
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trip for us, honestly. So you've been here for some
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number of years, right? From moving to Italy. What was
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the toughest part for you? when you first came here
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from Italy, breaking into acting. And what is your absolute,
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you know, favorite moment from acting? I mean, you're in
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an Oscar-nominated film. That's a big deal.
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Yeah. You know, you mentioned a little bit of why
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it can be tough when you first arrive. You know,
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it's a lot about connections about meeting the right people
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that can introduce you even to you know the best
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class the best way to uh the best agent you
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know getting a good agent is so hard sometimes i
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find that you waste so much time at times uh
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with the wrong agent you know you get into a
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contract that just it's not the best fit for anybody
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and that's wasted time you know So that's a big
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part for me too. And even now, you know, I'm
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interviewing to get a new theatrical agent and I just
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don't want to make the move right away because I
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just want to make sure now at this point in
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my life that it's the right fit for everybody.
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Who's listening out there? Because gosh knows any agent who
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takes you on would be a lucky guy or gal.
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That's for sure.
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Thank you. Thank you so much.
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Any advice that you would give to people coming over
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from a different country? Let's say folks coming over from
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Italy who want to do what you did, who want
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to follow in your footsteps and become an actor. And
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also my last question, the folks back home, what do
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they think of your career? They must be very proud
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of you.
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Not much into the acting, but really proud of me.
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Yeah.
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I have to say that something that was hard coming
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here is that not having my Italian family close by.
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You don't realize at the beginning, you know, you come here,
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everything is fine. But then as time goes by, you
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kind of get stuck here. You know, you create a
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family or a life for your own and it's hard
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to move back. You know, I go back a lot,
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but it's not the same thing. And so I would
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think about that twice, you know, because having your family
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close by, I think it's always kind of a gift
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for us Italians. Yeah. Yeah. Something that we value and
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we don't want to ignore.
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Yeah. Yeah. But you've made the best of everywhere, right?
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You've made the best of Los Angeles, of coming from Italy,
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and certainly Los Angeles loves you. Gosh, it's been great
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chatting with you. Any parting words that you'd like to
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tell our audience, please?
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No, just that was great to be on and I
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love this show and I will be following you for sure.
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Oh, thank you. We are thrilled to have you because Luca.
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is just such a favorite with our entire audience and
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we're going to be rooting for Luca to win. I
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hope you get to go to the Academy Awards, right?
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Yes, I hope he wins.
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Yeah, will you be able to go? Do you have
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any idea? I don't know.
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I don't know yet. I will try anything I can
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to go, Deborah.
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Yeah, at least one of the viewing, at least one
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of the big viewing parties. I mean, being that you
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were in it, will you let us know how it goes?
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I will, definitely. Yeah.
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Thank you so much, Francesca Fanti, well-known actress from just
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outside of Rome, most recently in the film Luca. We're
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just thrilled and honored to have you join us today.
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So thank you so much for joining our Little Italy
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of LA podcast, where we highlight Italians and Italian-Americans, around
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Los Angeles and beyond who are sort of adding to
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our life, our culture of being Italian. So thank you
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so much. I am your host, Debra Zara Coppelt. And
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thank you so much for joining us.
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Bye-bye. Thank you, Debra.
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Ciao.
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Hi, everybody. Thanks for joining us today on our Little
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Italy of L.A.
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Podcast.
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I'm your host, Deborah Zara Coppelt. And joining us today
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is Francesca Fonti. Thank you so much for being here, Francesca.
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Thank you for having me. Thank you.
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Francesca is such a delight. You are an actress, a
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voiceover actor, and also a writer. And you most recently
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appeared in the Oscar-nominated film Luca. It's an animated film
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by Disney, Pixar, and I just love it. And you
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play what? The village cop, right?
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I do, yes. She gives tickets.
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I know when I saw her, I thought, oh my gosh,
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I just ran into somebody like her about a week ago.
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Talk to me about that role and how you felt
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when you found out this film was nominated for an Oscar.
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animated actor? We'd love to know.
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Well, yeah, Luca was really such a gift, such an
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unexpected gift. It came from a friend. She referred me
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to the casting director and I auditioned, you know, we
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just sent the voiceover for a few characters I did.
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I got the cop and it was just such a
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delight to work with Enrico Casarosa. He's such an angel.
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casting director, too. She's just amazing, Terry Douglas.
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I didn't have many expectations. From what I saw when
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small role. I didn't see the entire movie. And then
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the movie came out and it got such an amazing,
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a lot of attention because it is a wonderful movie.
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then I was laughing. And a lot of people felt
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that way.
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It is such a beautiful, beautiful story from the very
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beginning until the credits start rolling, right? And I too
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was really crying there. I was... for anyone who hasn't
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seen it please make sure i think what it's on
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amazon um or is it on.
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On disney plus but it's a beautiful story but it's
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an animated film and i know you've done a lot
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of voice work is that tough to get roles in
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voice work you've done what madagascar you've done all sorts
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of things would you tell us about it.
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little bit of, I never pursued it, honestly. It always
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just happened to me. People would refer me for a role.
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to do a one-woman show, a comedy, crazy one-woman show
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where I was alone on stage, but I played eventually
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18 different characters. You know, I played four women, four
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different women, but these four women would interact with other
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non-present characters. So I would do the voice for those
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non-present characters. The total was 18, and they were pretty
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crazy voices, you know, like animation voices. So I think
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that's why somehow voiceover kept coming to me, yeah.
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Now, you are from Italy. You were born in Rome, right?
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it back a little and find out a little bit
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about what were you like as a kid? Because I
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often say whatever you were like as a kid sort
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of is the reason why we all end up doing
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what we do. Did you always want to act? Were
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you doing this sort of stuff when you were in Italy?
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know so many performers, and when you get to meet
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them in person, they're usually off in the corner somewhere,
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and people are so surprised to learn that, gosh, why
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aren't they on? Why aren't they performing? And it's like,
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your head, right?
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you're playing the characters, you're not being yourself, so... A
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lot of people wonder about that. A lot of people say,
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he's so reserved. How is that possible? It is very
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possible because, you know, I'm not being myself. I'm just
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playing those 18 characters. And then I go back home.
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my first dream was being a dancer. My parents sent
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me to do martial arts, so I got a little
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still love to dance and yeah, I've taken a lot
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just for fun, just for fun.
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now let's go forward a little bit. It's 1993. You
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move here to the States because you wanted to try acting, right?
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country to another. But to move over here from Italy,
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that's hard, right?
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was really La La Land for me in the sense
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of like a paradise, a surreal dream, beautiful place.
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to do, you know, just study with him for a
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few months to try it out. And I just fell
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in love with everything, with the place, with the people,
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with the acting. Yeah, I went back through. I just
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left my place, everything, and I moved here. I was very,
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very excited to be here, actually, at the beginning. Yeah.
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Now, you started with some pretty phenomenal experiences. people right
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could you talk to us a little bit about that
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and also as part of that question I want to
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know when you came here and you were reading for
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roles did you have to get rid of the Italian
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accent did you play it up like how does that
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go for someone who's coming here from Italy who wants
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to act.
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many people you know it's like for some people it's
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fine oh it's you it's who you are But for
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some people, it's you must lose the accent. And I
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understand that. And I did work a lot on speech classes.
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I told you before I had my son, I had
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almost lost my accent. But then I had my son.
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the Italian. And I was always talking Italian to him
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to give him the language. And he's actually fluent in Italian. And,
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you know, all my friends, teenagers do not speak Italian.
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they didn't have a mother like me. They would just
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be on top of it and make him speak it.
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in English and I would just tell him, tell me
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in Italian, tell me in Italian. So it was hard.
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I'm glad of it. I'm glad you did that with
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him because, you know, when my folks came over, it was, well,
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they didn't come over, my grandparents did. You know, it
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was like, no, no, no, no, no. You're speaking English only.
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I'm of that generation where we didn't learn. And now
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people that are teaching their kids, it's like, no, no, no,
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speak Italian, speak Italian back to me. So that's very important.
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did it ever prevent you from getting any roles or
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were you able to lose the accent because you had
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to sort of assimilate into a role?
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some people, as I told you, but some people are
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very open to it now. You know, there is, we
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want diversity now everywhere.
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That should extend to accents too, because, and in my opinion,
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so much more real, right? It's like real life instead
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of just old stereotypes, one way of speaking, which we
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don't have anymore.
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stereotypes in Hollywood, right? It used to be the beautiful, gorgeous,
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glamorous actress. And now I really do think that we're
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getting to a point where real people, real people, we've
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got to see people like us, right? Accents and all.
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warts and all is so important because we feel like
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we relate to the people. in the film.
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a role where I must lose the accent, I have
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a terrific, amazing speech coach. And if I work with them,
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John Sperry is amazing. I can lose the accent.
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Now, one of the first roles you got here, right,
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when you came to LA was in the theater. And
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I know theater is truly your first love. Could you
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tell us about that? And you also love the one
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woman show. You enjoy that. Tell us about that.
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the best way to get into the acting is really
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to join a theater company and just do that all
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the time. You know, you just read plays all the time,
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you practice with other actors, you do shows, you are
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in rehearsals all the time. It's a nice, it's a
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very pure memory that I have of that time. I
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really like it a lot.
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It's all about- Yeah, a one-woman show though is very intimate.
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It's all about you on the stage, right? You are
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carrying the entire play, all the dialogue, everything. Is that
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difficult or is it something that just comes to you? Like,
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how do you do that?
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I would say it's difficult, but it's possible. And I'm
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going to tell you a little story if I can. Yeah.
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The first time they asked me to do a one-woman
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show was in 1997. Dario Fo, Italian writer, won the
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Nobel Prize and the Italian Institute of Culture in Los
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Angeles wanted to celebrate his Nobel Prize and wanted to
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put up a show written by Dario Fo for three
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nights at the Institute. I had done the show previously,
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the same show, but it's four different characters and we
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were four different actresses. So I was just playing 25
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remember the director of the Italian Institute of Culture called me,
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Enzo Coniglio, and he asked me to do the entire
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show by myself. And my first answer was, no, I
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can't do the entire show by myself. It's impossible. And
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he was like, why? And I'm like, Enzo, I can't.
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we do it. And he just kept saying, why? Why?
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let's talk again tomorrow. And I spent all night thinking,
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how can I do the entire show? Literally, I didn't sleep.
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are you doing? You are an actor, you wanna be
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an actress, just do the show. So I woke up
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in the morning, I called Anson and I said, I'm
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doing it, okay. But I really had nightmares for a
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long time of, you know, it's going to be a disaster.
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I'm going to have to move away from L.A.
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Yeah, yeah. I was really scared. But then once you
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do it, once you do a one-woman show, once it's
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such an amazing experience, you just want to do it forever.
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And I did it for a long, long time.
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You said it's an amazing experience. Explain that to us,
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because believe me, most of us will never know what
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that's like.
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on your own for almost two hours, and you have
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to make people laugh. In my show, there are four
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different characters. Three are comedy, and one is drama. So
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they would laugh, laugh, laugh for the first half hour.
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need a lot of preparation. You just need to get
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in and however you want to prepare, but you have
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to prepare. To me, I could never do it just like, OK,
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let's get on stage and do it now.
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I have to prepare. And I usually prepare for at
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least three hours before the show.
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Wow, and an incredible memory. I remember the little bit
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of theater that I did in high school and college.
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It's like somebody had to have little note cards off
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to the side because I was so nervous I couldn't remember.
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So it's a good thing I didn't become an actor
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because I wouldn't be able to do what you do.
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So that's pretty outstanding. Let's talk a little bit about
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some of the amazing people that you have acted with.
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One of my favorites, right? Daniel Day-Lewis in Nine. Could
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you talk to us about that?
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Yeah, that was a small role too, but it was
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such an intense day with Daniel, two days with Daniel Day-Lewis.
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And he's such a doll too. He's so nice, so supportive.
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I remember that when the time came from our close-ups,
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he didn't have to be there, but he stayed. He said, no, no, no,
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I'm going to stay. I'm going to give them the lines.
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the lines for my closeups. I thought that was so sweet.
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And don't you find sometimes some of the greatest actors,
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the greatest writers and directors, they are the most giving,
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aren't they?
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Yeah. Yes, it's true. It's true. And they have a
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special energy about them. Um, The reason reason, I think,
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why they are who they are. Yeah, totally.
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When you walk on a set and there is Daniel Day-Lewis,
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are you immediately really nervous? I mean, yeah, there you go.
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I just hear my heart. Yeah, yeah. That's why I
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have to prepare. The same thing for the one woman show.
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If you get up on stage in front of so
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many people, your heart just starts pumping like crazy. But
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if you prepare, and you breathe, and you do your
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own thing, then you're just centered.
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American Crime Story. You played Gianni Versace's mother. What a role.
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Tell us about that.
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Well, that was amazing. Unfortunately, the best scenes of what
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I shot there was that they were left behind. You know,
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I played Franco Versace when he was 10 years old,
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and that's what you see. And then I played scenes
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with Edgar Ramirez when Gianni Versace was 30 years old.
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thing I'm really happy about is that they had to
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leave it out of the final cut, but the director
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gave an interview And he said that his biggest regret
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was to leave those scenes out because they were really amazing.
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It was when he was 30 years old and he
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opened his first store in Milan. He was from Calabria,
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from the south. His mama was from Calabria and she
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was a dressmaker. She taught him everything. So he recreated
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her store in Calabria in Milan. And the scene is
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about when he actually takes her from Calabria to Milan
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and he opens the store and she walks into the
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store and it's just exactly like her store in Calabria. Wow.
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The center of Milan. And so I was crying and
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he started crying and we were hugging and we were
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touching these dresses and fabrics. It was just so emotional,
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so beautiful. And then we started a big argument, you know,
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because they wanted a big Italian argument.
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A big Italian argument, really?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were arguing then about what to
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do with the dress. You know, I want it short,
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I want it longer. You know, just like mom and
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son argument. But yeah, those scenes were really amazing and
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we'll never see them because they were cut out.
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Yeah. but there were other scenes with you in that
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magnificent piece.
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It wants me to get amazing too.
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Yeah. Oh yeah. Did you ever meet anyone from the family?
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Like his sister, Donatella, have you ever?
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No, no, I haven't met anybody.
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Yeah. Because they, that entire family, that his story, everything,
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it's very fascinating to me. And to be in that
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space where you get to play his mom, I would
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think is quite extraordinary. Did you feel like you really
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knew them?
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Well, I felt special. I felt, my God, I'm playing
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Jenny Versace's mom. It was like such a big responsibility.
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And I didn't have much material about the mom. Because
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of the age, there was not much material on the web, pictures. So, yeah,
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I felt the pressure a little bit, but then I
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had that beautiful child to work with. He was such
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an amazing actor. He's an amazing actor. And, you know,
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he had a struggle because he was, he wanted to
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be a dressmaker at 10 years old in Calabria. So
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that came with some struggles and yeah.
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Beautiful, beautiful story. Beautiful story. Um, Someone else that you
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are thrilled to have worked with is one of my
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personal favorites, Francis Ford Coppola. I want to talk a
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little bit about the piece that you worked on with him.
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He handpicked you, right? And I also want you to
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tell me and tell our audience a wonderful story about
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you going up to his vineyard in Northern California. Would
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you tell us all about him?
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, he's definitely number one on
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my list of people that I admire, that I'm grateful for,
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and two, he's just an amazing talent, amazing energy. I
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told you I went to the first audition. He was
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there in person at the very first audition. I've never
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seen anything like that. I walked into the room thinking
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someone is just going to tape my audition. And there
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is Francis Ford Coppola sitting on the desk like a
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little child. Wow.
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What was that like? I mean, he's like one.
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Of those, oh my gosh. Yeah, very surreal. Very surreal
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that you walk out and you think, did it just happen?
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Did I just meet Francis Ford Coppola and talk to
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him for 20 minutes? But then the amazing thing was
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the callback. At the second audition, we were about, I
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don't know, something between 20 and 30 people. And he
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kept us there for five hours. For five hours, we
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were improvising and dancing and singing and talking in dialect
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from Naples. it was there too. I walked out and
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I thought, my God, the best five hours of my
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life as an actor, you know, uh, hard to describe,
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but just an amazing gift. And then I got the role.
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So I got to play with him for four weeks.
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Where did you film? Where did you film?
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We filmed at UCLA, the studios inside UCLA for four weeks,
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experimental project. Um, he was experimenting live cinema. So we
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had 40 cameras on all the time. He picked me,
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I think, because of my theater experience, because when you
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do live cinema with 40 cameras on, it's really like
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doing live stage, you know, theater.
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Well, there is something about an actor and actress who
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come from theater. right? You can feel that whether it's
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a TV show that they're in or a film, there's
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a certain quality to the work, I believe. And I'm
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sure that's what he picked up on in you, as
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you said, right?
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Yeah, I mean, we used to work really, really hard,
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you know, in theater and you just, you really sweat it.
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And of course, we have to make adjustments to be
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on camera, you know, everything has to become smaller. But
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there is that amount of effort that we are used
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to put in the work that, yeah, I think makes
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the difference. And then after we worked on Distant Vision,
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the experimental project is called Distant Vision, and you can
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find it on IMDb. After we worked on Distant Vision,
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because I write, I showed him some of my writing
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and he said, you know, he complimented me about my writing.
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And one day he asked me to go up to Sonoma.
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He has restaurants, winery, resort. And he asked me to rewrite.
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He's such an amazing perfectionist. He said, look, it's not
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dinner theater, but it's something similar. I've been doing it
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for many years, but I feel the evening has lost
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some energy. Would you go up and rewrite it? and
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basically direct the waiters like if they were a dysfunctional
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Italian family. Wow. So I go up to Sonoma for
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two weeks and I find out that the place is
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just always packed for that event. It's like it's always overbooked.
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There are always like 30 people in line trying to
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get in, but he thinks he lost the energy, you know?
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Wait a minute, and this is at his vineyard, right?
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Yeah for people who haven't been there you must visit
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it's extraordinary and I've been there a few times actually
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and I remember the first time this is before I
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had met him there he was just sitting there he
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very you know he lives there often right it's one
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of his homes and very often he'll just be there
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so it's quite an experience everybody to go up there
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but anyway go.
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Ahead really no really because it's also it's not just
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a restaurant it's not that you just go there and
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I'm You can put the winery, there is a pool,
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like resort style pool and cabins. And it's great. It's
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an amazing place.
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But when I got there, you know, I was curious
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to find out, you know, I have to write, rewrite
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this evening. So I wanted to know what was about,
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what they were doing currently and who wrote it originally.
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And they told me he did. Francis wrote the original
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so I was like oh my god I have to
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rewrite something that Francis Ford Coppola wrote so I came
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up with a scenario of a crazy all gone wrong
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wedding everything was wrong even.
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And that's real that's for sure real that's happened.
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Yeah that happens exactly that happens a lot but in
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this one at the end at the very end it
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culminates with the fact that the bride is pregnant and
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the groom doesn't know. And so it's like a big mess.
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But that was so much fun. That place, you're right,
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you have to visit because it's an experience that is
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so different for us. We live in LA, everything is
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a little bit boxed. We are so self-conscious and we
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go to our auditions or to our meetings. And it's
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all kind of prepped, right? Yeah, it's different there. Yeah,
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people are just so relaxed and so just into having fun.
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I thought, you know, people would just be sitting there
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watching this event, but everybody just got into it. There
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were people, at some point, there were people standing on
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the chairs going like, go and get married, go and
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get streaming.
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I love that. Oh, that's wonderful. And he loved it?
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He loved, everybody loved it. It was a lot of fun.
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I wonder if they're still doing, I wonder if they're
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still doing the wedding.
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I don't know. You've got, we've got to find out.
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That's a road trip for us, Francesca. That's a road
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trip for us, honestly. So you've been here for some
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number of years, right? From moving to Italy. What was
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the toughest part for you? when you first came here
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from Italy, breaking into acting. And what is your absolute,
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you know, favorite moment from acting? I mean, you're in
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an Oscar-nominated film. That's a big deal.
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Yeah. You know, you mentioned a little bit of why
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it can be tough when you first arrive. You know,
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it's a lot about connections about meeting the right people
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that can introduce you even to you know the best
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class the best way to uh the best agent you
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know getting a good agent is so hard sometimes i
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find that you waste so much time at times uh
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with the wrong agent you know you get into a
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contract that just it's not the best fit for anybody
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and that's wasted time you know So that's a big
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part for me too. And even now, you know, I'm
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interviewing to get a new theatrical agent and I just
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don't want to make the move right away because I
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just want to make sure now at this point in
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my life that it's the right fit for everybody.
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Who's listening out there? Because gosh knows any agent who
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takes you on would be a lucky guy or gal.
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That's for sure.
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Thank you. Thank you so much.
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Any advice that you would give to people coming over
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from a different country? Let's say folks coming over from
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Italy who want to do what you did, who want
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to follow in your footsteps and become an actor. And
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also my last question, the folks back home, what do
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they think of your career? They must be very proud
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of you.
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Not much into the acting, but really proud of me.
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Yeah.
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I have to say that something that was hard coming
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here is that not having my Italian family close by.
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You don't realize at the beginning, you know, you come here,
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everything is fine. But then as time goes by, you
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kind of get stuck here. You know, you create a
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family or a life for your own and it's hard
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to move back. You know, I go back a lot,
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but it's not the same thing. And so I would
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think about that twice, you know, because having your family
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close by, I think it's always kind of a gift
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for us Italians. Yeah. Yeah. Something that we value and
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we don't want to ignore.
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Yeah. Yeah. But you've made the best of everywhere, right?
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You've made the best of Los Angeles, of coming from Italy,
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and certainly Los Angeles loves you. Gosh, it's been great
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chatting with you. Any parting words that you'd like to
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tell our audience, please?
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No, just that was great to be on and I
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love this show and I will be following you for sure.
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Oh, thank you. We are thrilled to have you because Luca.
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is just such a favorite with our entire audience and
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we're going to be rooting for Luca to win. I
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hope you get to go to the Academy Awards, right?
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Yes, I hope he wins.
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Yeah, will you be able to go? Do you have
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any idea? I don't know.
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I don't know yet. I will try anything I can
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to go, Deborah.
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Yeah, at least one of the viewing, at least one
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of the big viewing parties. I mean, being that you
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were in it, will you let us know how it goes?
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I will, definitely. Yeah.
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Thank you so much, Francesca Fanti, well-known actress from just
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outside of Rome, most recently in the film Luca. We're
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just thrilled and honored to have you join us today.
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So thank you so much for joining our Little Italy
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of LA podcast, where we highlight Italians and Italian-Americans, around
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Los Angeles and beyond who are sort of adding to
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our life, our culture of being Italian. So thank you
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so much. I am your host, Debra Zara Coppelt. And
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thank you so much for joining us.
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Bye-bye. Thank you, Debra.
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Ciao.