Comedy in Crisis: Finding Light in Tragedy w/ Adam Chapel

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Yeah, so I, I think that part of
what a comic, what makes a comic
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is how they approach tragedy.
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So I think that, like I said, I
don't know any comics personally that
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don't have some background that is
either traumatic or sad or difficult.
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And I think what makes the difference
between, um, maybe a good comic and a
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bad comic, and I, I don't love those
terms necessarily, but like I would say
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a comic who is, Actively contributing
to, to the community, to other people,
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to the sign, you know, to the society
and a comic who's maybe sort of in kind
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of a taking mode is how they have One,
have they acknowledged that trauma?
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Do they know where they were hurt?
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And have they done the work to
sort of examine that hurt and kind
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of try to heal from that hurt?
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I'm, I'd say I'm still in that second
boat of trying to, my, uh, my tragedies
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happened very, uh, very recently.
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And so I'm still in the part of
just dealing with it and making
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sense of it, like, and then I just,
comedy has helped me with that.
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So I'm not fully developed at
all with it yet, but I'm just
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going on a journey with it.
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I love that you're on
this journey with me.
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And by the way, everyone, this is
a welcome to Vibing the Apocalypse.
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This is Adam Chappel.
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Adam say
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hi
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to the three people listening.
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Three
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people.
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What's up?
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Adam is a new friend of mine.
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Uh, he was the winner of the very
first comedy rumble down in Las Vegas.
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Uh, let's see back in October.
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Um, and Adam, maybe before we, I want
to come back to this tragedy thing.
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Cause I, I actually think that I
actually think that one of the most
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powerful, uh, conversations we can
have around comedy is its power to sort
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of bring light into the darkness, so
I definitely want to get into that.
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For sure.
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Um,
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first let's, let's jump to the rumble.
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And so tell me a little bit about
what your experience was like
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on that first comedy rumble.
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Well, man, I won and I wasn't
expecting that, like at all.
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I went in with like, I wrote the first
round, the minute of new material.
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I wrote that like, 20, 30 minutes
before I got to the venue, didn't
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expect to pass that first round.
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I did.
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And then just kept going.
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And by the next thing I knew I'm
doing 10 minutes up there with
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all my material already burnt.
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So I was just telling stories and I
felt like the crowd was fucking with me.
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So I think that they were,
they were being very nice.
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Cause I've watched that video back a
bunch of times and I'm like, Oh, they
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were very generous with their laughs.
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You could say.
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And what I love about cause that I
saw that happening to you on stage.
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And it reminded me, I've, I've told this,
I think I told this story, um, I had Jason
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Paxman who won, uh, a couple weeks ago and
he ended up in the same boat where he got
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to the, he got to the end and Aiden, he
was like, and that's all I have you guys.
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And it reminded me of, I think
it was the fourth or fifth
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time that I headlined where I.
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I'd had an hour and I'd done the hour
a couple of times already, but when
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I'd done the hour before I'd done it
kind of slow, I'd found other kind
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of, I'd, I'd found a couple of like
interesting rabbit trails to go down.
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And then I got into this, this
particular one and there was something
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about the energy of that night.
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Like all the openers were,
were really crushing.
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So the energy was really high.
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I came in and I just like hit.
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And I just hit, I crushed
for like 30 minutes.
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And then after 30 minutes, I checked
my time and I was like, Fuck.
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That was, I just burned
through all of my stuff.
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Like I did it super, super,
and they were popping.
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Right.
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It was super fun.
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But then I was sitting there and I'm
like, I have promised all of these
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people another 30 minutes of Comedy.
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Yeah.
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I've got, I've got fucking nothing.
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Yeah.
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There was a moment
inside where I panicked.
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Like there was this moment
where I was in full panic mode.
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It wasn't outside, but I realized
where I was and I was like, Oh my God.
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And it felt like I, it felt like
I was in the deep end of the pool.
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It felt like I'd been like sort of
playing around in a pool and then
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suddenly I, well, where's the ground?
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Where's the ground?
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Yeah.
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And, and what happened
is I sort of floundered.
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And then I started to breathe and then I
just started to sort of throw stuff out.
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I was like, well, here's a
story that I've thought about.
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And here's a story that I've thought about
and watching you do it during your 10
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minutes, cause you had about three minutes
and then about three minutes into your 10.
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I saw the floor kind of drop out for me.
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Yeah.
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I was like, well, I said, I
think I said, told the crowd.
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I was like, well, if you guys
can't tell, I don't know what the
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fuck I'm talking about up here.
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And I was just very, very aware of it.
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Like, I was like, they, they
got to know that I'm not.
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Let me just get it out the way.
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I'm not prepared for this, but
just go on this drive with me.
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And they did.
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And I think I did get some good, I got
some material out of those 10 minutes
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of coming up with shit on the fly.
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Like I brought that into my bit now.
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It's just totally,
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I, I didn't, when I did that, I was like,
Oh, I didn't realize that was funny.
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Yeah.
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I loved about watching
you do that is number one.
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You're right.
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And this is just, I think part of the.
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I think one of the ways that we've
cultivated the audience of the rumble
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is that they, because they know number
one, that a lot of the comics who are
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coming up are fairly new to comedy.
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So they know that everyone's new.
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They know that at least their
first minute is brand new.
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Yeah.
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Also know that like the way that I
advertise the way that I talk about it
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to people is this is kind of a place.
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This is a place for comics to
come and hone their craft, right?
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These are, this is, these are not, these
are not, this isn't Tom Segura, right?
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This is.
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This isn't big names.
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These are young, hungry up and comers,
and they are, they're here to work.
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They're here to work and
they're here to try stuff.
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And so I think that it kind of
attracts an audience that likes to
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see sort of the behind the scenes.
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And so because of that, I do
think they're very generous.
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They are very, Oh, especially in
Vegas, man, the Vegas, I remember
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just, just, uh, uh, I think two weeks
ago we had, we had our smallest one.
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I think there were like
40, 47 people in the crowd.
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So it was a, it was a little, little
audience and there was still like this
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generous buzz of, and we still had
a fantastic show because everybody
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was, everyone was sort of willing.
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To kind of share their, there's got to
be sort of a willingness to the audience.
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For sure.
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Willingness to the audience.
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Then you can kind of fuck around.
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Yeah.
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In that fucking run.
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And really, that's why, that's why
I wanted to make the Rumble a thing.
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Is that I knew that I had, in
order for me to improve as a comic.
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I needed to have opportunities to get
on, get on stage in front of an audience
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that knew that this was a workshop
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and
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was willing to sort of go
on that journey with me.
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And dude, I can't tell you how really
thrilling it was and how proud of
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you I was to watch you, you do that
because it felt like, it felt like I'd
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sort of dropped you into the deep end.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, bro.
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So that like whole thing like gave me
so much more confidence as a comic.
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Like I was When was that in September,
October, early October, October.
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So at that point I was.
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Like seven months into comedy and at
that point just doing like bar open mics
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and stuff like that Which is it's great.
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It's fun, but there's no real audience
there And so that was my first and
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I had done wise guys before like the
the open mic nights But it's it's
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still just a different different vibe.
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And so it was like it felt
like I was like, oh damn
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They're really engaged with me.
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It was the first time I had
an engaged audience And I was
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like, oh no, I can do this.
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I'm funny You I don't know, it like hit,
it hit and it just gave me a different
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level of confidence going into the end
of the year, making me start a show,
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would have never done that if that would
have happened, you know what I mean?
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Because I love that, right?
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Because what I, part of, part of
my philosophy when it comes to
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comedy and really to life is, I, I
really believe that humans generate
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wealth and success and abundance
through giving to other people.
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And I think that, I think that what that
means is it does not matter what you have.
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You, it does not matter how poor you are.
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It does not matter how broke you are.
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I have been poor.
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I have been broke.
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Right.
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I've done, I've been in
all of those scenarios.
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It does not matter.
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You do have something
that other people need.
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It does not
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matter how little you have.
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There is something that you, and if
you, if you simply sort of take stock
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and examine what, what you want with
the power that you have, the resources
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that you have, the assets that are
available to you, you've got something
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that you could make a generous gift of.
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And so.
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Um, that really clicked for me.
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I read this fantastic book in like
August of this year, that maybe like
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a month after I did my first, my first
rumble, it's called the go giver.
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And it's basically all about that.
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And so I, I read that book and I was like,
okay, I'm going to, I'm going to try this.
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I'm going to try stepping into a
space where I'm not giving away in
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like a, in like a passive aggressive
or like a codependent where I'm
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like, I'm like giving, giving
out of like weakness or giving.
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Out of pity or like out of like, I
need, or there are strings attached.
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Right.
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I'm going to give you a gift, but
then I'm going to really expect
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that you're going to come through.
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I'm
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going to ask for a favor,
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right?
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Like then you're going to, it's like,
no, I, I am an abundant, powerful being.
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And out of my abundance and out of my
power, I'm going to give generously to the
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humans around me without any expectation
that they're going to give back to me.
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The only expectation that I have is that.
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When I give, I'm creating
kind of this energetic vortex.
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I'm pushing energy out into the
world in a certain way that it
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can't help but come back to me.
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Yeah.
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And, and so that's, karma is
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real, man.
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I believe that shit.
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I, I believe that I do too.
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Shit.
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I
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too, I I really do.
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And, um, and I've seen it.
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I've seen it happen because, and,
and I want to get into the, that's
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why I wanna get into your, your
show, is that what I've noticed is.
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The Rumble is a really powerful
opportunity for comics to come
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together and to together create
a lot of momentum, right?
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Because you look great on that stage.
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And every other comic who was on
that rumble also looked great.
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Even the ones that got eliminated, right?
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Because we all, cause there's something
about, like you said, the difference
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between a weekend crowd and an open mic
crowd is until you get there and you
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experience it, it's like, you don't know.
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I had
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recently watched uh, this Anthony
Jeselnik interview, uh, cause he just
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dropped a special, um, and he was
talking about how like, he was bombing
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in front of bitter open micers for like
a whole year, and then one day he just
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said, fuck it, I'm gonna go there, did
one joke and got I'm all the laughing.
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That was like 20 years ago
and he still remembers it.
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Like, and then audiences changed.
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And so I think it was like, that's kind
of what the rumble felt like to me.
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It felt like, Oh, this is a change.
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This is the first time I've experienced
this and I want to experience this again.
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So I'm going to keep doing
what I got to do to get back
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in front of crowds like this.
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Yeah.
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I mean, throw my own show.
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I'm going to throw my own show,
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but that's where I want to go.
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So you do the rumble, you win, you
generate, you build, you generate all this
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confidence, which is well earned because
you're, you're funny and you work hard.
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And, and then, and then what do you do
at, what's your, what's your path from,
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from that rumble to, uh, your, your show?
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Yeah, so I started a show with,
uh, my good friend Anthony Wynkoop,
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another comic, um, called The Hot Box.
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We've done two of them now, so
like, looks like once a month type
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of thing, right on Fremont Street.
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At a venue that is not typically for
comedy, but we have it packed out in
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there and it's basically, it's essentially
a Kill Tony rip, like let's just be
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real, it's, it's, we got, we got a band
in the back, uh, funk is what they're
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known as and they're like playing walk
up music and they, they're jamming.
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We throw some improv bits in there,
kind of like Eric Andre a little bit.
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If you've ever seen that, but we're trying
to throw it out there, and it's free.
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It's free to sign up,
comics sign up online.
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We are charging five bucks at this next
one, just because uh, proceeds are gonna
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go to Goody Two Shoes, the charity.
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Oh, hell yeah.
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So it's not even, we're not
even pocketing it, but we do,
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we are gonna charge for that.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it's just been a great trajectory.
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I mean, we did the last one November
27th, and It's, it's been great seeing
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how well it's received, the comics
appreciate it because it's a stage in
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front of, in a new audience, it's a stage
in front of an audience, and I think
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that's one thing that comics in Vegas
are missing, like, unless you're getting
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booked at Wise Guys, or Kimmel's, or
LA Comedy Club, you're not, you're not
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getting, you're not, you're not getting
in front of an audience that often.
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Yeah,
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we like to provide that for sure.
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And we film it, produce it, edit it.
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Cause I'm, I'm a videographer for work.
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I've been doing that for
the last seven, eight years.
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So it's like you said, that's
my skill to offer to the scene.
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And I did kind of keep it tucked away at
first, not out of like selfishness, but
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like, I don't know if I wanted to open
those floodgates of having everybody
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hit me up to do a video, but, but I was
like, I started producing that show.
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And then that's how, like,
That's my skil like, production.
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And Anthony, my co host,
he has a lot of background.
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He's a musician as well.
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So he has lots of background in
throwing shows, producing shows.
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So I think using our knowledge of
production value and putting on a
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good entertaining show for people and
making sure it visually looks good.
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We're trying to just Make
the whole scene rise.
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Well, we want to see more shows
pop up that aren't just an open
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mic with nothing wrong with that,
but we have like 30 open mics.
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We don't need another right now, but
we need more shows in my opinion.
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You
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need more stage time, right?
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Like comics, comics.
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When I, when I first started, my, my
comedy mentor said something really
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stuck with me, which is that comedy
is the only art form that you have to
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practice in front of your audience.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Every other art form, you can
go into a closet somewhere.
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If you're, uh, if you're playing an
instrument, you can go into a closet
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somewhere and you can just do that thing
over and over and over and over and
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over and over and over and over and over
and over and over until it's perfect.
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Yeah.
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You can rehearse lines, right?
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You can once, you know, a bit
works, but, but even then,
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you never know until you hit the stage,
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you never know until you hit the stage
and, and there's something about, and
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so I love, God, it, it tickles me.
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I love that because I love that.
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Cause what I saw in missing
in the scene in, in salt lake.
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And then as soon as I started talking
to Kate banks, I was like, Oh,
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obviously this is the case in Vegas.
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Obviously this is the case.
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Probably anywhere.
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There's a scene, especially a city
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like Vegas and salt lake
where we're not quite small.
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We have a decent sized scene, but
we're not LA, New York, et cetera.
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Right.
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It's sort of there's, but, but what I
found was dozens of really talented,
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really funny people who are all kind of
clamoring for the same, like three or
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four spots on maybe opening a weekend at
wise guys, maybe opening it, like maybe
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doing something that Jimmy, like with very
few opportunities and, um, and there's
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something in my brain that just says.
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Uh, if, if I can't, if I can't
get an opportunity, I'll make
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that opportunity for myself.
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Yeah.
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And I love that.
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That's what you're doing now.
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I love that.
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I love seeing, I love seeing
that, that cause you're right.
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We need more shows.
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There's no, there's not, there's
no competition in comedy.
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Our competition in comedy
is not with other comedians.
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It's with ourselves.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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It's not with other shows.
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Your show does not compete with my show.
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They compliment each other, right?
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Because our real, our real competition
is Netflix, is movie theaters.
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It's any kind of, it's any kind of
entertainment that sort of keeps you
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locked inside of your house and doesn't
get you out around other people.
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So anything that builds the
scene, anything that gets more
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people experiencing live comedy is
powerful and it's good for everyone.
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And I think it's especially good
for the world right now because
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the world is batshit crazy.
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We're, we're in the apocalypse.
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It's happening all around us
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for sure.
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And, and as it's happening all around
us, I, I can't think of anything more
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because I have very little control.
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Over the world, right?
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I have very little control
over who's president.
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I have very little control over, over even
things like climate change or any of these
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big things that are, that are happening.
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We
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can only do so much.
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We can only do so much.
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And that doesn't mean we
shouldn't do those things.
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Obviously we should, but also I think
it's really easy to get overwhelmed
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by all of that stuff and to forget
that we actually have a lot of
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power over our, our immediate world.
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Your immediate world in Vegas, my
immediate world in Salt Lake, right?
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That we can actually do a lot
to create safety, to create
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community, to create fun in.
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And so it doesn't have to be
that the, even though things are
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crazy and, and not even crazy, I
would say objectively bad, right?
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Like I, I remember.
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I think a year ago, I read that the
UN said, we're not even doing, we
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can't call it global warming anymore.
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It's we're in global boiling,
like we already warned it.
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That's scary.
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I didn't know that.
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Yeah, we already did it.
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Like we won it.
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We've already tipped.
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We're past the point of no return already.
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Yeah.
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And, and the way I kind of think about
it is like, have you ever seen like
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an avalanche and like a film of like
a, of snow falling off a mountain?
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Yeah.
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There's kind of this moment where
there's sort of like this crack, you
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sort of see the whole mountain kind of
crack and then it goes, yeah, we cracked
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that already have, we can't fix it.
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The world cracked and, and now we're
in sort of the, the, the, the drop.
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And I think knowing that if you are,
if you're aware that that's where
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you're at, then you can snowboard.
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Down, then you can serve, right?
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Then you can sort of ride that wave.
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And while you're, and my intention is
I'm riding that wave is I want as many
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people as I have direct influence over.
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And as I have power to protect and to care
for those humans are going to be safe.
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Those
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humans are going to have a good time.
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They're going to feel okay.
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And I can't think of anything more
powerful, especially in our world,
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in America right now, because there
are vast Powers that are dedicated
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to, to making us hate each other.
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I
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can't think of anything more powerful
than to combat that hate with get
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together in a room with people that
are all live in your neighborhood,
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that all live in your city and laugh.
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Yeah.
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I'm big on community.
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Um, I grew up like my
parents like ran a food bank.
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And so it's just like, it's giving back
to the community has just always been,
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it's ingrained in me at this point.
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And so like, it's why it feels
good to give back to this, my new
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community, this comedy community.
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And it's, it's, it's, it's fun.
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Where did you, where did you grow up?
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I grew up here, born and raised Vegas.
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Oh, Vegas, Vegas local.
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Hell yeah.
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Yep.
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I'm four generations in Vegas.
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Whoa.
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Yeah.
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Not many of us.
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You're
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almost as Vegas as I am Mormon.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm just missing a second mother.
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Uh, it's not, it's not
all it's cracked up to be.
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Um, let's talk, let's kind
of shift a little bit.
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Let's talk a little bit about,
um, your comedy journey.
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Let's talk about sort of got in
what sort of brought you into it.
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And I know that I've, I've, I'm aware of
sort of some of the peripherals of it.
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And so only talk about what
feels, what feels okay for you.
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But I know that there's
There's some sadness there.
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Apologies, there's a
printer going off right now.
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So that is in the background.
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It's okay.
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I can't even hear it.
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Okay.
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Cool.
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Cool.
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Cool.
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And, and it doesn't matter.
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It's the apocalypse.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes the internet doesn't work.
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True.
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Um, so yes, what were you saying?
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I'm sorry.
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So yeah, no, just let's,
let's jump into your journey.
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Like when, when did you, when
did you, did you always know
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that you wanted to do comedy?
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Never, never, ever, ever.
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I, uh, I've always been a really shy guy.
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I work behind the scenes.
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behind the camera.
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I don't like the camera in my face.
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I don't like lights on me.
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It's the most unnatural thing
for me to have ever done.
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And it just kind of happened.
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It was, uh, it was in March.
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I, uh, started March 7th.
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That's my comedy anniversary,
I guess you could say.
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And, uh, I was just going to this,
there's this bar that my office space
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at the time was at called Ola Habibi.
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And they host the open
mic there every Thursday.
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And I was just there watching
and I was like, this is fun.
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And so I remember somebody
made a suicide joke.
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Um, like six months before that,
my dad had committed suicide.
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And so I saw that and laughed
at it and I was like, Oh wait,
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this is, this can be funny.
470
00:22:02,234 --> 00:22:05,454
And this was also like,
so, so he passed in July.
471
00:22:05,679 --> 00:22:08,919
of last year and then in January
of this year, um, my little
472
00:22:08,919 --> 00:22:10,159
sister passed away as well.
473
00:22:10,939 --> 00:22:16,199
So this was like two months after that
when I'm just like at an all time low.
474
00:22:16,899 --> 00:22:17,989
Life fucking sucks.
475
00:22:17,989 --> 00:22:19,149
There's no point to this.
476
00:22:19,759 --> 00:22:20,209
But I just
477
00:22:20,209 --> 00:22:24,079
watched this and I just started
laughing and one, like a week or
478
00:22:24,079 --> 00:22:25,409
two later, I just went up there.
479
00:22:25,839 --> 00:22:27,779
I didn't jump straight into those jokes.
480
00:22:27,849 --> 00:22:29,809
I started with a terrible story.
481
00:22:29,809 --> 00:22:30,489
It was awful.
482
00:22:31,399 --> 00:22:32,179
Did terrible.
483
00:22:32,469 --> 00:22:35,049
But as I kept going, I just was
like, let me try to write about.
484
00:22:35,729 --> 00:22:36,669
My dad hanging himself.
485
00:22:36,669 --> 00:22:37,319
That could be funny.
486
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,029
And, and it's, it's, it's been funny.
487
00:22:40,029 --> 00:22:40,979
It's been healing too.
488
00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:43,219
Like, I feel like I've learned a lot
about myself through writing these
489
00:22:43,219 --> 00:22:46,249
jokes and just this whole comedy thing.
490
00:22:46,249 --> 00:22:48,289
Cause this is a side of
myself I didn't know existed.
491
00:22:48,299 --> 00:22:50,459
I mean, at all.
492
00:22:51,249 --> 00:22:53,359
Dude, I, I so appreciate
the vulnerability there.
493
00:22:53,379 --> 00:22:56,129
And I, like, I wanted to
first acknowledge, I wish
494
00:22:56,129 --> 00:22:57,139
I could give you a big hug.
495
00:22:57,139 --> 00:22:59,369
I want to first acknowledge, right?
496
00:22:59,379 --> 00:23:01,659
Like that is real suffering.
497
00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:03,029
That's real tragedy.
498
00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:06,694
That is, that is, That is, that
is really, really heartbreaking.
499
00:23:07,254 --> 00:23:14,744
Um, and I love that, the, the, the
surprise that you got in that, at that
500
00:23:14,774 --> 00:23:19,254
open mic, where suddenly this thing
that I imagined had just been like
501
00:23:19,374 --> 00:23:27,469
weighing on you, and just so heavy
and so tragic and so, Just unbearable.
502
00:23:27,699 --> 00:23:30,009
And then somebody makes
a joke about suicide.
503
00:23:30,029 --> 00:23:33,149
And I'll bet it was so surprising
to you that you laughed.
504
00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:33,599
Dude.
505
00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:34,459
Yeah, I was dying.
506
00:23:35,129 --> 00:23:35,749
I was dying.
507
00:23:36,979 --> 00:23:40,609
And I recently saw that comic,
uh, when Kill Tony was here in
508
00:23:40,609 --> 00:23:41,959
September, I saw him in the line.
509
00:23:41,959 --> 00:23:43,349
That was my first time
seeing him since then.
510
00:23:43,349 --> 00:23:46,379
I just told him like, Hey, that joke
right there made me start doing it.
511
00:23:46,379 --> 00:23:49,209
Yes.
512
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:50,819
Do you remember the joke?
513
00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:55,459
I don't exactly, but it was something
about like this guy hanging himself.
514
00:23:57,354 --> 00:23:58,084
I don't remember it.
515
00:23:58,154 --> 00:24:02,014
I wish I could, but it was,
I remember it happened.
516
00:24:02,814 --> 00:24:05,254
I don't even know that the context
necessarily, because what it,
517
00:24:06,174 --> 00:24:10,734
what it did is it, is it tapped
into everything's energy, right?
518
00:24:10,734 --> 00:24:15,214
So you had, you had all of this
emotional energy that was wrapped up in
519
00:24:15,224 --> 00:24:19,214
tragedy and in, and that was connected
to that and what he was able to do.
520
00:24:19,214 --> 00:24:24,984
And this is why comedy is so magic is he
was able to sort of get into that Little
521
00:24:24,984 --> 00:24:27,044
knot of energy that was inside of you.
522
00:24:27,454 --> 00:24:32,514
And, and he was able to release it
physically and laughter, laughter.
523
00:24:32,544 --> 00:24:37,104
If you think about the physiology of
laughter, it's almost like sobbing.
524
00:24:37,804 --> 00:24:38,134
Yeah.
525
00:24:38,614 --> 00:24:38,954
Right.
526
00:24:38,984 --> 00:24:39,804
You're, you're,
527
00:24:39,944 --> 00:24:42,574
it's the most healing
thing through grief, man.
528
00:24:42,614 --> 00:24:46,334
I mean, I've been through too much grief
in the past year, and I can say that the
529
00:24:46,394 --> 00:24:52,674
laughter has been made like such a huge
difference and just going out, being out,
530
00:24:53,264 --> 00:24:55,244
talking about it, my thing is I can't.
531
00:24:56,384 --> 00:24:58,884
The way I write jokes, I
just pull from stories.
532
00:24:58,894 --> 00:25:02,754
I've had a pretty interesting life and
so every joke I've told is a true story.
533
00:25:03,674 --> 00:25:09,234
And when I, when I became ready to like,
start talking about it, I think I wrote
534
00:25:09,254 --> 00:25:16,314
my first dead dad joke in April and I
just like, you could tell I'm not lying.
535
00:25:16,374 --> 00:25:18,964
Like last night I did an open mic
and this, this girl came up to me.
536
00:25:18,964 --> 00:25:22,254
She's seen my set a bunch of times and
she's like, is your dad actually dead?
537
00:25:23,864 --> 00:25:24,834
I said, yes.
538
00:25:25,364 --> 00:25:26,264
She's like, oh shit.
539
00:25:26,274 --> 00:25:27,284
So it's like the.
540
00:25:29,574 --> 00:25:32,934
It made me feel like, okay, I can't
tap into that dark side of me to get
541
00:25:32,934 --> 00:25:35,234
these jokes out, get these jokes off.
542
00:25:36,004 --> 00:25:38,624
I have a couple jokes about my
sister's passing, I own still.
543
00:25:38,914 --> 00:25:41,274
That one just stings too
much to really joke about.
544
00:25:42,494 --> 00:25:44,684
She was, uh, she was
killed by a drunk driver.
545
00:25:45,724 --> 00:25:46,924
Yeah, she was pregnant.
546
00:25:46,924 --> 00:25:48,694
It was a whole sad thing.
547
00:25:49,034 --> 00:25:49,204
21
548
00:25:50,014 --> 00:25:50,554
years old.
549
00:25:53,024 --> 00:25:54,644
So I haven't found the
humor in that one yet.
550
00:25:54,684 --> 00:25:55,344
I've tried.
551
00:25:55,444 --> 00:26:00,424
I have a couple concepts and bits and
stories regarding her funeral, but They
552
00:26:00,424 --> 00:26:03,794
never really get laughs like that, and
I always feel uncomfortable telling
553
00:26:03,794 --> 00:26:07,404
them, so I'm just, I've shelved those
until I get to a better place in my
554
00:26:07,414 --> 00:26:08,984
five stages of grief on that one.
555
00:26:09,184 --> 00:26:14,024
You know what, so as, as a, as someone
who's also used comedy to, to deal with
556
00:26:14,914 --> 00:26:17,024
sometimes absurd and horrific tragedy.
557
00:26:17,264 --> 00:26:17,554
Yeah.
558
00:26:18,384 --> 00:26:22,339
What I've found is, You
have to find it funny first.
559
00:26:22,469 --> 00:26:23,879
Yeah, 100%.
560
00:26:24,339 --> 00:26:28,439
So like, I think probably the reason
you're able to lean into your father's
561
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:32,529
passing is that, that, that comic came in.
562
00:26:32,659 --> 00:26:32,969
Yeah.
563
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:33,989
Planted
564
00:26:33,989 --> 00:26:34,939
that
565
00:26:34,939 --> 00:26:35,889
seed.
566
00:26:35,889 --> 00:26:38,919
And so I would say don't, don't force it.
567
00:26:38,949 --> 00:26:39,209
Right?
568
00:26:39,209 --> 00:26:44,719
Like you gotta, there's a lot of, a lot
of comics like to get on stage and joke
569
00:26:44,729 --> 00:26:46,489
about how comedy is cheaper than therapy.
570
00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:47,229
Yeah.
571
00:26:47,399 --> 00:26:51,619
And I, I'm, my response to all of
those people is please go to therapy.
572
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:52,369
Yeah,
573
00:26:53,679 --> 00:26:57,219
because, because you
have to process it first.
574
00:26:57,219 --> 00:26:59,519
It has to become funny to you first.
575
00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:00,289
A hundred percent.
576
00:27:00,289 --> 00:27:00,699
Yes.
577
00:27:01,174 --> 00:27:05,024
Honestly, what we're doing, what we're
doing is a little bit spiritual, right?
578
00:27:05,024 --> 00:27:07,854
Because what we're doing is we're
standing in front of people.
579
00:27:08,094 --> 00:27:11,014
And especially if we're going to make
jokes about grief or tragedy, we're
580
00:27:11,014 --> 00:27:16,194
standing in front of people and we're
inviting everyone into our grief and
581
00:27:16,194 --> 00:27:21,514
we're inviting them to bring their grief
into our grief and we're going to show
582
00:27:21,514 --> 00:27:25,144
them how actually it's this, right.
583
00:27:25,434 --> 00:27:27,194
And we can only do that.
584
00:27:27,234 --> 00:27:29,594
If we can do that ourselves.
585
00:27:30,054 --> 00:27:30,294
Right.
586
00:27:30,294 --> 00:27:33,044
We can only do that if
we've already found that.
587
00:27:33,334 --> 00:27:36,724
And if we haven't found that, then all
we're doing is we're inviting people into
588
00:27:36,724 --> 00:27:38,654
our grief and now we're all sad together.
589
00:27:39,074 --> 00:27:39,424
Yeah.
590
00:27:39,604 --> 00:27:42,704
And I've had that happen where it has
backfired where I'll be up there and
591
00:27:42,804 --> 00:27:48,874
it's just sad and it's, it's like, uh, my
biggest punchline is like a lot of friends
592
00:27:48,994 --> 00:27:53,774
didn't, their dads didn't stick around
mine hung around when that gets nothing.
593
00:27:54,034 --> 00:27:57,244
It like gets in my head and I'm
like, oh man, maybe I'm just sad.
594
00:27:57,244 --> 00:27:59,084
Maybe my delivery's off
tonight or something.
595
00:28:00,664 --> 00:28:02,534
Oh, my dad hung around.
596
00:28:05,144 --> 00:28:09,514
So since, uh, I went to that open
mic in March, I haven't stopped.
597
00:28:09,584 --> 00:28:13,134
I go to like three, four,
five mics a week since then.
598
00:28:13,674 --> 00:28:16,734
Just wanted to get the stage time,
get it comfortable being on stage.
599
00:28:16,754 --> 00:28:18,884
Cause it's such a foreign thing to me.
600
00:28:19,584 --> 00:28:20,174
And.
601
00:28:22,084 --> 00:28:22,454
I love it.
602
00:28:22,504 --> 00:28:25,864
I've found a good community to
love, love the comics out here.
603
00:28:25,864 --> 00:28:28,644
It's, it's a fun hang,
something to do at night.
604
00:28:28,704 --> 00:28:29,004
And
605
00:28:29,484 --> 00:28:29,604
it's,
606
00:28:30,204 --> 00:28:33,474
I'd say if I wasn't doing that, I
don't know where I'd be right now.
607
00:28:33,484 --> 00:28:34,304
This past year.
608
00:28:34,304 --> 00:28:37,004
I don't know how I would have gotten
through this year without comedy.
609
00:28:37,404 --> 00:28:41,444
So there's this, there's this,
uh, uh, psychology professor.
610
00:28:41,444 --> 00:28:41,884
I love his name.
611
00:28:41,894 --> 00:28:42,854
It's Martin Seligman.
612
00:28:42,884 --> 00:28:46,754
He's, he's sort of credited as one of
the founders of the, of the positive
613
00:28:46,754 --> 00:28:51,394
psychology movement, meaning that it used
to be in psychology that we just studied.
614
00:28:51,714 --> 00:28:52,574
Neuroses.
615
00:28:53,004 --> 00:28:54,724
So we, what was wrong with people.
616
00:28:54,794 --> 00:28:57,254
And then he and a bunch of other
people came along and like, I think
617
00:28:57,254 --> 00:28:58,444
the seventies or the eighties.
618
00:28:58,444 --> 00:29:01,724
And they were like, Hey, what if
we studied healthy, happy people?
619
00:29:01,904 --> 00:29:03,924
And we figured out what makes
people healthy and happy.
620
00:29:04,464 --> 00:29:07,434
And one of the, one of my favorite
things that they did is they, they
621
00:29:07,434 --> 00:29:10,144
can, I've got, I've got it on my
bookshelf because I'm a nerd, but
622
00:29:10,144 --> 00:29:12,224
it's this huge thick, it's a textbook.
623
00:29:12,234 --> 00:29:16,194
It's like a Harvard textbook and it's
called character strengths and virtues.
624
00:29:16,794 --> 00:29:21,094
And what they do is they, they went out
and they studied every world religion.
625
00:29:21,464 --> 00:29:25,854
They studied every major philosophy
and their question was, are
626
00:29:25,854 --> 00:29:28,554
there common human values?
627
00:29:28,764 --> 00:29:33,734
Can we sort of find values that all
humans share across all different worlds?
628
00:29:34,204 --> 00:29:37,004
And, and then can we categorize
them in a way that makes sense?
629
00:29:37,384 --> 00:29:39,184
And so they came up with
like these different buckets.
630
00:29:39,544 --> 00:29:41,884
There's like virtues of Of courage.
631
00:29:41,914 --> 00:29:43,514
There are virtues of humanity.
632
00:29:43,804 --> 00:29:47,274
And one of the buckets that they
created was virtues of transcendence,
633
00:29:47,654 --> 00:29:50,764
meaning that there are, there are
certain virtues or certain values
634
00:29:50,764 --> 00:29:54,834
that we have as humans that help us
transcend, that help us rise above.
635
00:29:55,074 --> 00:29:58,674
And those are things like
awe or respect or worship.
636
00:29:58,864 --> 00:30:02,134
But the, one of the things that they
included in there that I love is humor.
637
00:30:03,434 --> 00:30:07,934
So humor is a transcendent
value because, and I think that
638
00:30:07,944 --> 00:30:10,224
that's why in some ways we are.
639
00:30:10,609 --> 00:30:14,009
We're sort of like, I tell people,
like, I joke that I'm a prophet.
640
00:30:14,009 --> 00:30:17,039
Like that's kind of like a little bit
of a gag, especially with my background.
641
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:20,629
But there's also an element of truth
underneath there where, where I really
642
00:30:20,629 --> 00:30:27,749
do believe that the comic is not
just silly, obviously we are silly.
643
00:30:28,334 --> 00:30:28,634
That's the point.
644
00:30:29,274 --> 00:30:32,474
But what we're really doing
is we're, we're, we're finding
645
00:30:32,564 --> 00:30:34,244
the, the, the suffering.
646
00:30:34,454 --> 00:30:35,834
We're finding the pain.
647
00:30:36,244 --> 00:30:39,844
And we're, I mean, people say you
shouldn't make light of things
648
00:30:39,844 --> 00:30:41,314
that are, that are serious.
649
00:30:41,484 --> 00:30:44,664
And I'm like, why would
you do anything else?
650
00:30:44,664 --> 00:30:44,934
Yeah.
651
00:30:45,444 --> 00:30:46,284
That's, that's dumb.
652
00:30:46,554 --> 00:30:46,574
Yeah.
653
00:30:48,454 --> 00:30:52,344
Why would you not look at a burden,
like something heavy, the burden of
654
00:30:52,354 --> 00:30:58,319
grief that someone is carrying and
say, Hey, if you're open to it, I
655
00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:00,319
could make that a little bit lighter.
656
00:31:00,469 --> 00:31:00,809
Yeah.
657
00:31:01,059 --> 00:31:04,449
Cause as soon as you can laugh at
something, it doesn't have power over you.
658
00:31:04,609 --> 00:31:06,919
It doesn't mean, it
doesn't mean that anymore.
659
00:31:06,919 --> 00:31:10,539
Like I, that your dad's
passing is still really tragic.
660
00:31:10,569 --> 00:31:10,999
Oh man.
661
00:31:11,009 --> 00:31:12,749
Like that's what I said in
the beginning of the call that
662
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:14,289
holidays are fucking rough.
663
00:31:14,509 --> 00:31:17,329
Like it was about to be the first
Christmas without my little sister around.
664
00:31:17,479 --> 00:31:18,819
So it's like, that's it.
665
00:31:18,819 --> 00:31:22,849
And then she has a daughter and like,
It's just that little girl doesn't have
666
00:31:22,849 --> 00:31:28,709
a mom now and it's it does happen it
hits me in random times But like because
667
00:31:28,709 --> 00:31:30,669
it's still so fresh less than a year
668
00:31:32,949 --> 00:31:37,809
But I think with grief and death it's
so relatable because it's one of the
669
00:31:37,819 --> 00:31:41,999
few inevitable things of life We're all
gonna die and we're all gonna know some
670
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:44,089
somebody we love is gonna die, right?
671
00:31:44,639 --> 00:31:47,279
It's the hard truth of
life, it's gonna happen.
672
00:31:47,809 --> 00:31:47,959
Yes.
673
00:31:47,979 --> 00:31:50,619
And I think people are afraid
of that, understandably so.
674
00:31:51,009 --> 00:31:53,909
And so, some people get really
uncomfortable to talk about death.
675
00:31:54,489 --> 00:31:56,409
And I wanna get rid of that shit.
676
00:31:56,579 --> 00:32:01,779
Like, we should, like, people are, like,
people have asked me so many times, like,
677
00:32:01,779 --> 00:32:05,339
oh, I just, I just don't know how to ask,
or I don't know how to say this, like,
678
00:32:05,339 --> 00:32:06,839
is it weird if I ask you this question?
679
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:08,139
I'm like, no, ask away, dude.
680
00:32:08,169 --> 00:32:11,849
I'm an open book, and this shit
needs to it's such a normal thing.
681
00:32:11,879 --> 00:32:13,499
We should be normal talking about it.
682
00:32:13,529 --> 00:32:16,479
We shouldn't need to, like, be
afraid to talk about it, because
683
00:32:16,479 --> 00:32:17,689
death might come get us next.
684
00:32:17,689 --> 00:32:21,549
Like, I don't I don't know what
the process behind that is, but I'm
685
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:25,299
very open to talk about My death,
my grief process, things that
686
00:32:25,299 --> 00:32:26,549
have helped, things that haven't.
687
00:32:27,849 --> 00:32:29,219
Comedy's helped, for sure.
688
00:32:29,779 --> 00:32:30,439
Comedy helps.
689
00:32:30,619 --> 00:32:35,729
Comedy, I think, I can't think of any,
any way to, and especially, especially
690
00:32:35,729 --> 00:32:39,379
to like, be able to process your
grief, and then to, then to say it
691
00:32:39,389 --> 00:32:42,129
on stage, and then get a big laugh.
692
00:32:42,459 --> 00:32:42,819
Yeah,
693
00:32:43,709 --> 00:32:44,659
it's a great feeling.
694
00:32:45,059 --> 00:32:47,099
It's literally laughing
in the face of death.
695
00:32:47,199 --> 00:32:48,939
Yeah, it is a great feeling.
696
00:32:49,019 --> 00:32:51,689
And that's why when those jokes
bomb, it hits that much harder.
697
00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:56,979
I needed that dopamine.
698
00:32:57,449 --> 00:32:57,849
Yeah.
699
00:33:00,529 --> 00:33:03,009
Dude, you and I, we should write
some, we should write some hanging
700
00:33:03,009 --> 00:33:06,019
dad jokes sometimes because
my, my dad also hung himself.
701
00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:06,879
Oh, wow.
702
00:33:06,969 --> 00:33:07,709
But yeah, I'm down.
703
00:33:08,184 --> 00:33:09,784
Let me tell you, let me
tell you the whole thing.
704
00:33:09,794 --> 00:33:13,924
Cause he didn't, so he hung himself as
a joke at my like ninth birthday party.
705
00:33:14,814 --> 00:33:19,574
So we were going, we were going
camping and, and this like, this like
706
00:33:19,584 --> 00:33:24,374
really, it like really fucked me up
for a while because, uh, we were,
707
00:33:24,394 --> 00:33:27,534
we were going camping and I like
really wanted to go camping cause
708
00:33:27,534 --> 00:33:30,974
I had like, 13 days older than me.
709
00:33:31,604 --> 00:33:34,844
So, so we're basically like
twins and we would always, he's
710
00:33:34,844 --> 00:33:36,074
from another mom, obviously.
711
00:33:36,104 --> 00:33:36,374
Yeah.
712
00:33:36,374 --> 00:33:36,439
Yeah.
713
00:33:36,659 --> 00:33:40,219
And so we would always celebrate our
birthdays together because when you have
714
00:33:40,289 --> 00:33:43,689
16 kids in your family, you don't, people
don't get individual birthday parties.
715
00:33:43,699 --> 00:33:44,439
Yeah.
716
00:33:45,179 --> 00:33:46,019
Group parties.
717
00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:47,129
Group parties.
718
00:33:47,129 --> 00:33:47,419
Right.
719
00:33:47,739 --> 00:33:51,299
And so, uh, when I was eight or nine,
I finally was able to get, like,
720
00:33:51,299 --> 00:33:54,419
I talked my parents into giving me
my own party and it was going to
721
00:33:54,429 --> 00:33:55,389
be, we were going to go camping.
722
00:33:55,399 --> 00:33:58,359
My dad was going to take us camping up
into the mountains with, with some, with
723
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:05,849
some of my friends and we went up there
and, um, We were like, we like hung out,
724
00:34:05,849 --> 00:34:08,429
we like built a little, we were by a
creek, we like built a little dam, we
725
00:34:08,429 --> 00:34:09,789
were like climbing a mountain and shit.
726
00:34:10,059 --> 00:34:12,679
And then we go into the tent at night
and it's me and all my friends and we're
727
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:16,769
all telling like scary stories and my
dad is out at the campfire and all of
728
00:34:16,769 --> 00:34:19,919
a sudden we hear Him start screaming.
729
00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:22,139
He's like, Hey, what are
you, what are you doing?
730
00:34:22,139 --> 00:34:22,949
Get away from here.
731
00:34:23,099 --> 00:34:28,049
Ah, and we're all, we're all
programmed in like this end
732
00:34:28,049 --> 00:34:29,129
of the world bullshit, right?
733
00:34:29,129 --> 00:34:29,399
Yeah.
734
00:34:29,489 --> 00:34:31,799
We're expecting to be
attacked by the evil.
735
00:34:31,799 --> 00:34:31,919
Like a
736
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:32,789
bear or something?
737
00:34:32,939 --> 00:34:33,419
No, not
738
00:34:33,419 --> 00:34:34,139
even bears, like
739
00:34:34,289 --> 00:34:36,119
evil people are coming together.
740
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:36,179
Oh
741
00:34:36,179 --> 00:34:36,509
shit.
742
00:34:36,569 --> 00:34:37,049
Okay.
743
00:34:37,169 --> 00:34:38,159
You guys, right?
744
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,659
Like the wick, the wicked.
745
00:34:39,689 --> 00:34:42,239
The world is out to get us, and
it's only a matter of time before
746
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,529
they come and persecute us.
747
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:46,679
Uhhuh, . So I'm eight or
we're just like freaking out
748
00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:46,920
in there.
749
00:34:46,925 --> 00:34:47,024
Yeah.
750
00:34:47,674 --> 00:34:51,394
We, we like unzip and we have our flat
and we're like going out and we're like
751
00:34:51,854 --> 00:34:53,724
going around and we're trying to see.
752
00:34:53,724 --> 00:34:57,894
And I, I remember I kind of turned my
flashlight this way and I see my dad's
753
00:34:57,894 --> 00:35:03,994
legs dangling in the air and I, and I
pull, pull up and I see him, he's hanging
754
00:35:04,024 --> 00:35:08,724
from a tree and my entire body freezes.
755
00:35:08,724 --> 00:35:09,334
Yeah.
756
00:35:10,784 --> 00:35:16,584
And then he starts laughing and, and it
turns out what he'd done is he'd taken a
757
00:35:17,474 --> 00:35:21,024
garden hose and he'd tied it to the tree.
758
00:35:21,024 --> 00:35:22,284
He'd thrown it over the tree.
759
00:35:22,294 --> 00:35:25,754
He'd run it down through his
shirt, pants, and then created a
760
00:35:25,754 --> 00:35:27,354
little loop and he'd stood in it.
761
00:35:28,044 --> 00:35:30,974
And then he hoisted himself
up and he was just pretending.
762
00:35:31,404 --> 00:35:32,494
And that,
763
00:35:32,504 --> 00:35:34,234
that is traumatizing, bro.
764
00:35:34,584 --> 00:35:37,714
That was, it was so, it
was deeply traumatizing.
765
00:35:37,794 --> 00:35:43,004
I literally just quit my job because
my boss did that on a live stream.
766
00:35:43,054 --> 00:35:44,194
He did the hanging joke.
767
00:35:44,574 --> 00:35:45,994
Are you kidding me?
768
00:35:46,224 --> 00:35:51,184
Yeah, he, he went on a Twitch stream
and like, did a stunt gone wrong
769
00:35:51,194 --> 00:35:53,904
where he like, hung himself and
everybody there thought he died.
770
00:35:54,594 --> 00:35:57,804
He was safe and harnessed up, but like,
still the imagery, and I told him like,
771
00:35:57,814 --> 00:35:59,314
I can't fuck with that, so I quit.
772
00:36:00,939 --> 00:36:01,379
Dude.
773
00:36:01,759 --> 00:36:01,999
Yeah.
774
00:36:02,229 --> 00:36:02,499
Yeah.
775
00:36:02,499 --> 00:36:04,559
It, it really, it, it fucked with me.
776
00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:04,859
Right.
777
00:36:04,859 --> 00:36:09,299
Because it was like, um, it also
probably part of the reason I'm funny,
778
00:36:11,579 --> 00:36:15,709
but, but it did like it, it, it, it,
I, I didn't really even remember that.
779
00:36:15,709 --> 00:36:18,989
I didn't deal with that until
like two decades later in therapy.
780
00:36:18,989 --> 00:36:19,159
Right.
781
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:20,739
I remembered, I remembered that.
782
00:36:21,129 --> 00:36:22,759
And, and.
783
00:36:23,139 --> 00:36:26,809
And to me, what was really, I don't know
that I've even found the funny, that's
784
00:36:26,809 --> 00:36:29,419
why I think it would be fun to kind of
sit down with you and sort of, yeah,
785
00:36:29,529 --> 00:36:30,029
I'd be down.
786
00:36:30,339 --> 00:36:30,769
Right.
787
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:31,579
There's something
788
00:36:31,579 --> 00:36:32,039
there.
789
00:36:32,089 --> 00:36:33,309
There's something there for sure.
790
00:36:33,389 --> 00:36:33,969
I mean, that's it.
791
00:36:33,969 --> 00:36:37,379
That's an, like, like, I know it's
true, but that's an absurd story.
792
00:36:37,399 --> 00:36:38,519
Like, that's crazy.
793
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,689
So there's, there's something there.
794
00:36:40,899 --> 00:36:41,519
Imagine.
795
00:36:41,539 --> 00:36:45,629
And where, where I've gotten to is like
the, cause I've, I've sort of explored
796
00:36:45,629 --> 00:36:49,509
the crazy and, and the crazy to me is.
797
00:36:49,879 --> 00:36:52,889
And, and this, I think is really
the tragedy is I can't, I have,
798
00:36:52,939 --> 00:36:56,099
I have kids, I have a, and I have
a, I have a nine year old, right?
799
00:36:56,419 --> 00:36:58,569
And I cannot imagine.
800
00:36:59,339 --> 00:37:01,109
I like to play jokes on my kids,
801
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:01,449
right?
802
00:37:01,459 --> 00:37:02,189
Yeah, but not like that.
803
00:37:04,449 --> 00:37:05,229
That's crazy.
804
00:37:05,979 --> 00:37:06,739
I can't imagine.
805
00:37:06,979 --> 00:37:13,049
And, and more, more kind of sort of
more, more deep than that is I, when
806
00:37:13,049 --> 00:37:17,659
I imagine what was going on in my
dad's world, that, that he was at his.
807
00:37:18,049 --> 00:37:20,809
Son's birthday party and
he's like alone there.
808
00:37:20,809 --> 00:37:22,069
He's just by himself.
809
00:37:22,339 --> 00:37:29,729
And then he has this thought, Oh, wouldn't
it be funny if this, and which, which
810
00:37:29,729 --> 00:37:34,589
has got to mean in my mind, Oh, he was
probably that suicidal ideation, right?
811
00:37:34,749 --> 00:37:36,169
That's depression, right?
812
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:38,219
That's, that's like
some real mental health.
813
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:39,839
It's dark, right?
814
00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:41,979
That's a dark, that's a dark thing.
815
00:37:41,989 --> 00:37:43,769
That's a dark place that he went to.
816
00:37:43,849 --> 00:37:44,219
Yeah.
817
00:37:44,359 --> 00:37:48,049
Um, but there is something funny there.
818
00:37:48,329 --> 00:37:49,799
There's definitely something funny there.
819
00:37:50,179 --> 00:37:52,309
I'd love to sit down and
write with you about that.
820
00:37:52,829 --> 00:37:54,469
I'll be down next time you're in Vegas.
821
00:37:54,499 --> 00:37:56,289
Cause Oh, you're in Vegas
this weekend, right?
822
00:37:56,319 --> 00:37:57,259
I'm in Vegas this weekend.
823
00:37:57,259 --> 00:37:57,419
Yeah.
824
00:37:57,419 --> 00:37:59,739
I'll be, I'll be coming
down Saturday or Sunday.
825
00:37:59,739 --> 00:38:03,959
So yeah, let's get to, cause I think
that that would be, I haven't, I haven't
826
00:38:03,959 --> 00:38:05,959
even tried to tell that on stage.
827
00:38:05,959 --> 00:38:06,299
Yeah.
828
00:38:06,749 --> 00:38:10,109
But, but I do think there's something
funny there and I think it would be
829
00:38:10,109 --> 00:38:15,269
fun to, God, I love comedy, dude.
830
00:38:15,269 --> 00:38:19,199
I think it'd be fun to write some jokes
about our dads hanging themselves.
831
00:38:19,449 --> 00:38:20,329
Nah, it'd be funny.
832
00:38:20,609 --> 00:38:21,829
It probably would be funny.
833
00:38:22,369 --> 00:38:23,799
Mine just succeeded.
834
00:38:24,879 --> 00:38:25,869
Which maybe that's it.
835
00:38:25,899 --> 00:38:29,399
My dad is so, my dad is
so bad at everything.
836
00:38:29,409 --> 00:38:30,199
He couldn't even hang
837
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:30,879
himself right.
838
00:38:34,029 --> 00:38:34,409
Yeah.
839
00:38:35,709 --> 00:38:39,269
That actually might work because
I, uh, we're going to have to put
840
00:38:39,269 --> 00:38:40,629
a trigger warning on this episode.
841
00:38:42,869 --> 00:38:44,769
Definitely talks of suicide.
842
00:38:44,989 --> 00:38:51,019
By the way, you guys, um, because one of
the, one of the things that I do think
843
00:38:51,019 --> 00:38:57,189
is kind of when I tell people that I was
raised polygamist, um, I, I'm always, they
844
00:38:57,189 --> 00:39:00,649
always ask me like, how many moms and how
many kids, and I'm always a little bit.
845
00:39:01,284 --> 00:39:02,804
Ashamed isn't the right word.
846
00:39:03,004 --> 00:39:05,314
I just don't think what I
have is that impressive.
847
00:39:05,324 --> 00:39:10,574
Like I know people who have like
six moms and like a hundred and I
848
00:39:12,794 --> 00:39:13,374
know, right.
849
00:39:13,374 --> 00:39:14,124
It's terrible.
850
00:39:14,484 --> 00:39:17,614
I've got really two cause there
was, there was a third one, but she
851
00:39:17,614 --> 00:39:18,624
was only around for like a month.
852
00:39:18,654 --> 00:39:21,364
So I've got two and like 15 siblings.
853
00:39:21,674 --> 00:39:21,954
That's a
854
00:39:21,954 --> 00:39:22,324
lot.
855
00:39:23,414 --> 00:39:23,814
Yeah.
856
00:39:23,864 --> 00:39:25,814
I know it looks like a lot to
857
00:39:25,814 --> 00:39:26,254
you.
858
00:39:26,494 --> 00:39:30,694
To me, I sort of feel like my dad's
kind of like the, the, the funny or
859
00:39:30,694 --> 00:39:34,244
the joke that I'm kind of been playing
with is that my dad is shitty at,
860
00:39:34,244 --> 00:39:36,104
he's, he's bad at being a polygamist.
861
00:39:37,454 --> 00:39:38,324
That's a great bit.
862
00:39:38,614 --> 00:39:41,194
Like he's bad at being, he's
a, he's a shitty polygamist.
863
00:39:42,084 --> 00:39:46,114
Maybe there's, maybe there's a through
line there where, where he's not only
864
00:39:46,124 --> 00:39:49,024
is he bad at being a polygamist, but
he's also bad at killing himself.
865
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:56,939
And how depressing does it have to be to
want to kill yourself and not be able to?
866
00:39:58,309 --> 00:39:58,669
Yeah.
867
00:40:01,759 --> 00:40:02,649
Anyway, that'll be fun.
868
00:40:02,659 --> 00:40:03,789
I will be fun.
869
00:40:03,969 --> 00:40:04,209
We'll play.
870
00:40:04,209 --> 00:40:04,659
I'm down.
871
00:40:04,659 --> 00:40:05,809
I'm down with that.
872
00:40:05,919 --> 00:40:07,049
If we can find something there.
873
00:40:07,049 --> 00:40:11,449
Cause I think that dude,
especially like when I think
874
00:40:11,459 --> 00:40:12,829
about, when I think about the.
875
00:40:13,064 --> 00:40:15,514
The, the impact, right.
876
00:40:15,554 --> 00:40:19,394
Of, cause I, I always want my
comedy to be positive, right.
877
00:40:19,394 --> 00:40:22,334
I always want it to be good
for the people who hear it.
878
00:40:22,734 --> 00:40:26,404
And, and I think one of the, I think
one of the things that especially
879
00:40:26,404 --> 00:40:31,094
we're, we're dealing with, with men
in, in our society right now is male
880
00:40:31,094 --> 00:40:33,134
suicide is, is at an all time high.
881
00:40:33,134 --> 00:40:34,144
It's crazy.
882
00:40:34,994 --> 00:40:40,024
And, and I think that, um, I
think we, like, like you said,
883
00:40:40,034 --> 00:40:42,254
not talking about Doesn't.
884
00:40:42,704 --> 00:40:43,764
Make it go away.
885
00:40:43,794 --> 00:40:44,454
I think it actually does
886
00:40:44,454 --> 00:40:44,634
it
887
00:40:45,054 --> 00:40:45,634
worse.
888
00:40:45,844 --> 00:40:46,064
Yeah.
889
00:40:46,064 --> 00:40:49,304
And I get it's uncomfortable to
talk about, but it's got to be done.
890
00:40:49,524 --> 00:40:51,464
We got to make it not
an uncomfortable thing.
891
00:40:51,594 --> 00:40:52,384
Cause it's normal to make it
892
00:40:52,634 --> 00:40:53,164
not an uncomfortable thing.
893
00:40:53,164 --> 00:40:53,324
He's
894
00:40:53,324 --> 00:40:53,874
going to die.
895
00:40:54,284 --> 00:40:57,604
Everybody's going to die and, and
everybody's going to die and please
896
00:40:57,614 --> 00:40:59,394
don't die because at your own hand.
897
00:41:00,209 --> 00:41:00,389
Don't.
898
00:41:00,389 --> 00:41:01,169
Hundred percent please.
899
00:41:01,169 --> 00:41:02,399
I have a, I have a cousin that did too.
900
00:41:02,399 --> 00:41:02,549
Right?
901
00:41:02,549 --> 00:41:02,609
Yeah.
902
00:41:02,609 --> 00:41:03,149
I have a cousin.
903
00:41:03,329 --> 00:41:04,559
Suicide has impacted me.
904
00:41:04,769 --> 00:41:04,949
Right.
905
00:41:04,949 --> 00:41:05,099
It
906
00:41:05,099 --> 00:41:09,329
is such a, it's a just a different type
of death because it is so intentional.
907
00:41:09,789 --> 00:41:10,239
Yeah.
908
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:10,419
And
909
00:41:10,419 --> 00:41:14,049
it's, it, it, it hits different
than like a sister's death where it
910
00:41:14,049 --> 00:41:15,699
was a car accident and Well, yes.
911
00:41:15,699 --> 00:41:17,199
That was crushing and sad.
912
00:41:17,789 --> 00:41:19,349
She didn't want to die.
913
00:41:19,929 --> 00:41:20,169
Right.
914
00:41:20,169 --> 00:41:24,129
Dad wanted to die, and that's just a weird
thing to sit with and think like, damn.
915
00:41:24,769 --> 00:41:24,889
Yeah.
916
00:41:25,999 --> 00:41:27,199
But it's important to talk about.
917
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:28,469
Yeah.
918
00:41:28,469 --> 00:41:29,999
And, and it's wild too because my dad.
919
00:41:30,334 --> 00:41:32,164
My dad, I think also wanted to die.
920
00:41:32,494 --> 00:41:32,874
Yeah.
921
00:41:33,204 --> 00:41:36,234
And, and that, and, you
know, and I, I get it right.
922
00:41:36,234 --> 00:41:39,324
Because I, there've, there've been,
there've been parts, there've been times
923
00:41:39,324 --> 00:41:42,064
in my journey where I've felt that right.
924
00:41:42,064 --> 00:41:46,804
Where I've felt, Oh, it would
be easier to not be here.
925
00:41:47,314 --> 00:41:47,424
I
926
00:41:47,424 --> 00:41:49,464
felt that so many times this year alone.
927
00:41:49,694 --> 00:41:52,374
So that's why I give it up to
comedy for being a distraction.
928
00:41:53,174 --> 00:41:54,494
Oh no, I can't kill myself.
929
00:41:54,494 --> 00:41:55,354
I have to hit this open mic.
930
00:41:59,504 --> 00:41:59,964
Yes.
931
00:42:00,154 --> 00:42:02,734
And just promise me that I'll
make the same promise to you.
932
00:42:02,794 --> 00:42:03,164
Yeah.
933
00:42:03,384 --> 00:42:05,394
Before you try to kill yourself.
934
00:42:05,474 --> 00:42:06,794
I'm not going to kill myself.
935
00:42:06,794 --> 00:42:07,194
Yeah.
936
00:42:07,394 --> 00:42:09,424
We will definitely go
to an open mic first.
937
00:42:09,494 --> 00:42:10,074
Yes.
938
00:42:12,964 --> 00:42:13,294
Yeah.
939
00:42:13,709 --> 00:42:17,169
Man, I heard there was like, I guess a
comic in the scene died last year and
940
00:42:17,369 --> 00:42:19,089
they did an open mic at his funeral.
941
00:42:19,779 --> 00:42:20,569
Oh, yeah!
942
00:42:20,569 --> 00:42:22,679
That
943
00:42:22,759 --> 00:42:23,789
sounds fucking crazy.
944
00:42:23,929 --> 00:42:24,689
I don't want that.
945
00:42:25,399 --> 00:42:29,319
If I die, there better not be a
fucking open mic at my funeral.
946
00:42:29,509 --> 00:42:31,359
No open mic.
947
00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:33,489
What do you want for your funeral?
948
00:42:33,989 --> 00:42:35,249
Ooh, that's a good question, man.
949
00:42:35,569 --> 00:42:36,309
That's a good question.
950
00:42:36,359 --> 00:42:39,859
I want a dab bar at
the, at the after party.
951
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:43,409
I don't really, I don't, yeah, I
want people to be a little sad.
952
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:45,299
But, nothing, nothing too crazy.
953
00:42:45,419 --> 00:42:46,699
Just, I want, I want it to be a good time.
954
00:42:46,879 --> 00:42:47,219
Party.
955
00:42:48,249 --> 00:42:51,819
I like the idea of a
celebration of life, right?
956
00:42:51,819 --> 00:42:54,479
I want to be, I want to be celebrated.
957
00:42:54,499 --> 00:42:59,749
And, and what I really want is for, for
people to celebrate their connections
958
00:42:59,749 --> 00:43:01,839
with each other because of me, right?
959
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:05,439
I, I really feel like one
of the things that I'm.
960
00:43:05,894 --> 00:43:08,354
I'm here to do is to connect people.
961
00:43:08,374 --> 00:43:10,044
I'm here to bring people together.
962
00:43:10,254 --> 00:43:13,404
I'm here to bring people together out
of the darkness and into the light.
963
00:43:13,704 --> 00:43:20,024
I'm I'm here to, and so I would love if
a bunch of people got together when I
964
00:43:20,024 --> 00:43:22,664
passed and were like, Oh, I'm so grateful.
965
00:43:23,154 --> 00:43:28,244
For Ben, because he brought us together
and sort of continue to continue that.
966
00:43:28,704 --> 00:43:32,124
When I imagined, when I imagined
that that's, and then also definitely
967
00:43:32,124 --> 00:43:33,384
don't put me in a metal box.
968
00:43:33,404 --> 00:43:34,104
Oh my God.
969
00:43:34,254 --> 00:43:34,544
Like,
970
00:43:34,544 --> 00:43:35,914
yeah, I want to get cremated.
971
00:43:36,224 --> 00:43:36,714
Oh, a hundred percent.
972
00:43:37,184 --> 00:43:37,534
Yeah.
973
00:43:37,724 --> 00:43:38,524
I'm going to get cremated.
974
00:43:38,594 --> 00:43:40,854
And then have you seen it where they
cremate you and they put you into
975
00:43:40,854 --> 00:43:42,464
the, like a tree, like a little tree?
976
00:43:42,494 --> 00:43:42,912
No, I
977
00:43:42,912 --> 00:43:43,219
haven't.
978
00:43:43,469 --> 00:43:46,599
Yeah, so you can get cremated and then
they put, they put you into like this
979
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:51,869
little, this little bag, um, with a bunch
of dirt and the roots of a little baby
980
00:43:51,869 --> 00:43:53,409
tree, and then you can go plant the tree.
981
00:43:53,449 --> 00:43:53,809
Nice.
982
00:43:54,374 --> 00:43:55,764
Oh yeah, that's, that's nice.
983
00:43:55,764 --> 00:43:58,674
I've seen they do like, there's
like this company that puts
984
00:43:58,704 --> 00:44:00,264
ashes inside a vinyl record.
985
00:44:00,964 --> 00:44:01,814
Oh, that's cool.
986
00:44:01,864 --> 00:44:01,934
I
987
00:44:01,934 --> 00:44:02,834
thought that was kind of cool.
988
00:44:04,884 --> 00:44:05,044
Can
989
00:44:05,044 --> 00:44:06,704
put your ashes in your favorite album.
990
00:44:07,234 --> 00:44:08,024
Yeah.
991
00:44:08,074 --> 00:44:09,134
Oh, that's fun.
992
00:44:10,644 --> 00:44:11,274
That's cool.
993
00:44:11,744 --> 00:44:11,964
Yeah.
994
00:44:11,964 --> 00:44:12,844
I love, I love that.
995
00:44:13,174 --> 00:44:15,604
Um, dude, we are, we are about at time.
996
00:44:15,604 --> 00:44:19,914
So I want to, I want to maybe, uh,
shift gears into we, uh, thanks so
997
00:44:19,914 --> 00:44:24,424
much for, for coming and for, for just
sharing yourself so, so authentically.
998
00:44:25,964 --> 00:44:27,444
Appreciate you giving me the space.
999
00:44:27,684 --> 00:44:27,924
Yeah.
1000
00:44:27,924 --> 00:44:32,914
And I want to just say like, from my
heart to your heart, like I, I, I see
1001
00:44:32,914 --> 00:44:37,354
you and I, I have, I'm, I'm like holding,
I'm holding your grief in my heart.
1002
00:44:37,394 --> 00:44:38,624
And I want you to just know.
1003
00:44:39,149 --> 00:44:40,299
I'm really sorry.
1004
00:44:40,609 --> 00:44:44,409
And I wish, I wish that things were
different and I know that they aren't,
1005
00:44:44,949 --> 00:44:49,189
um, but you're just held, you're held
in my heart and in my, in my love.
1006
00:44:49,649 --> 00:44:53,439
Um, and especially into the
holidays, like your whole family.
1007
00:44:53,509 --> 00:44:58,519
Um, it is, it is so tragic
to lose a family member and
1008
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:00,449
especially to lose a family member.
1009
00:45:00,789 --> 00:45:01,729
That's so young.
1010
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:02,499
Yeah.
1011
00:45:02,839 --> 00:45:05,599
Just like, uh, so unexpectedly.
1012
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:10,319
So anyway, I just want to say like, I
1013
00:45:10,909 --> 00:45:11,299
appreciate
1014
00:45:11,739 --> 00:45:12,539
your grief in that way.
1015
00:45:12,539 --> 00:45:16,839
Cause it's not mine, but I, I
know that grief and I, I, I have a
1016
00:45:16,839 --> 00:45:18,179
lot of space in my heart for you.
1017
00:45:18,649 --> 00:45:19,069
Thank you, Ben.
1018
00:45:19,069 --> 00:45:19,889
That means a lot.
1019
00:45:20,604 --> 00:45:20,994
Yeah.
1020
00:45:21,484 --> 00:45:24,564
Um, okay, so I like to wrap up
the podcast with two questions.
1021
00:45:24,634 --> 00:45:28,404
Um, first question is, we, we've
talked a little bit about the, the
1022
00:45:28,404 --> 00:45:31,284
apocalypse and, and like, the way
that I, the way that I think about
1023
00:45:31,284 --> 00:45:33,654
that is history goes in cycles, right?
1024
00:45:33,904 --> 00:45:37,654
The world isn't going to end, but our
current iteration of the apocalypse.
1025
00:45:38,024 --> 00:45:41,334
Human civilization is undergoing
a radical transformation.
1026
00:45:41,374 --> 00:45:41,814
Yeah.
1027
00:45:42,584 --> 00:45:46,904
And I think I, I really don't even think
like when I look at America and what's
1028
00:45:46,904 --> 00:45:50,324
happening in American politics and
just the American world right now, that
1029
00:45:50,334 --> 00:45:55,354
to me is even sort of like a smaller
iteration of the bigger thing that's
1030
00:45:55,354 --> 00:45:58,054
happening, which is down the world.
1031
00:45:58,374 --> 00:45:58,664
Right.
1032
00:45:58,664 --> 00:45:58,974
Yeah.
1033
00:45:59,204 --> 00:46:02,779
I think we were talking about this
before we hit record, but like, The UN
1034
00:46:02,959 --> 00:46:05,239
like a year ago was like, you know what?
1035
00:46:05,259 --> 00:46:08,579
We can't even call it global warming
anymore because we're past that point.
1036
00:46:08,579 --> 00:46:09,929
We're now in global boiling.
1037
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:12,969
And I mean, you remember
what the summer was like.
1038
00:46:12,999 --> 00:46:16,799
Every, every day was like, Oh,
this is the hottest day ever.
1039
00:46:17,099 --> 00:46:18,509
Especially out here in Vegas, bro.
1040
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:19,169
It was brutal.
1041
00:46:19,569 --> 00:46:22,029
Oh, and, and so like.
1042
00:46:22,919 --> 00:46:26,459
And that, to me, that's not
a message of, of, uh, fear.
1043
00:46:26,459 --> 00:46:30,959
That's the message of hope because we are,
as humans, we are brilliantly creative.
1044
00:46:31,149 --> 00:46:32,959
We constructed this world.
1045
00:46:32,959 --> 00:46:34,009
We made that happen.
1046
00:46:34,019 --> 00:46:35,589
Like we, we did that.
1047
00:46:35,949 --> 00:46:37,569
And so we can do something different.
1048
00:46:37,909 --> 00:46:41,239
And I also think that, that
apocalypses are really.
1049
00:46:41,794 --> 00:46:45,324
Really great opportunities
for change, right?
1050
00:46:45,324 --> 00:46:48,684
So, so there, there are parts of
the old world that we can let die.
1051
00:46:48,944 --> 00:46:51,994
And then there are parts of the new world
that we can kind of like birth into.
1052
00:46:51,994 --> 00:46:55,294
And so I I'm just curious from your
perspective and from what you see in
1053
00:46:55,294 --> 00:46:59,624
your, in your world, um, are there,
what are the parts of the old world
1054
00:46:59,624 --> 00:47:04,329
that you hope kind of go away and
what do you hope they're reborn as?
1055
00:47:05,769 --> 00:47:06,409
Good question.
1056
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:12,039
Um, I hope fear of talking about death
since we've been talking about that.
1057
00:47:12,049 --> 00:47:13,379
I hope that shit goes away.
1058
00:47:13,439 --> 00:47:17,429
I mean, it's dumb, like that
that's got to go away and change.
1059
00:47:17,459 --> 00:47:20,519
And I hope that this new
world can just bring in.
1060
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,389
Cause like you said, shoot, we're
in global boiling where our top,
1061
00:47:25,419 --> 00:47:27,409
our clock is ticking, right?
1062
00:47:27,409 --> 00:47:29,439
So we got one, make the most of that.
1063
00:47:29,539 --> 00:47:30,679
We don't know what's going to happen.
1064
00:47:31,429 --> 00:47:34,969
And we're going to just
talk about it all, man.
1065
00:47:36,304 --> 00:47:36,544
I love that.
1066
00:47:36,544 --> 00:47:37,464
We gotta talk about it all.
1067
00:47:37,664 --> 00:47:42,084
We gotta stop letting these
narcissistic, greedy, rich motherfuckers
1068
00:47:42,084 --> 00:47:44,054
run the country and dividing us.
1069
00:47:44,634 --> 00:47:45,494
Amen.
1070
00:47:45,984 --> 00:47:47,144
That's need to change.
1071
00:47:47,704 --> 00:47:48,394
Amen.
1072
00:47:48,594 --> 00:47:49,864
Musk
1073
00:47:49,874 --> 00:47:50,634
out of Twitter.
1074
00:47:51,714 --> 00:47:52,744
Be gone, dude.
1075
00:47:53,554 --> 00:47:59,464
There's this, I think about this all
the time because I, I, like Jeff Bezos
1076
00:47:59,534 --> 00:48:05,914
a couple years ago, he was on the news,
he bought a 500 million yacht and I saw
1077
00:48:05,914 --> 00:48:08,044
that and I have never been on a yacht.
1078
00:48:08,184 --> 00:48:09,444
But
1079
00:48:10,004 --> 00:48:17,194
I imagine that a 250
million yacht is banger.
1080
00:48:17,994 --> 00:48:22,994
Like a 250 million yacht is probably
the cool is probably so fucking cool.
1081
00:48:23,804 --> 00:48:30,534
He could have bought the 250 million
yacht and then had 250 million.
1082
00:48:32,859 --> 00:48:33,499
It's crazy.
1083
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:35,869
It's a, it's, it's a
gross amount of money,
1084
00:48:36,579 --> 00:48:36,919
gross
1085
00:48:37,819 --> 00:48:38,839
amount of wealth hoarding.
1086
00:48:39,279 --> 00:48:39,589
Yeah.
1087
00:48:39,629 --> 00:48:40,869
A gross amount of wealth hoarding.
1088
00:48:41,189 --> 00:48:47,179
And, um, you know, I think sometimes
about, uh, I, I, I think that,
1089
00:48:47,319 --> 00:48:50,179
I think that one of the things
we're moving into is a more going
1090
00:48:50,189 --> 00:48:52,959
back to a more tribal mentality.
1091
00:48:52,959 --> 00:48:55,759
I think we're, we're going to, we're going
to start to think more like tribes and
1092
00:48:55,759 --> 00:48:57,299
kind of act more like tribes as humans.
1093
00:48:57,329 --> 00:48:59,839
I want to start seeing communes
in the U S that's what I want.
1094
00:49:01,844 --> 00:49:01,984
100%.
1095
00:49:02,304 --> 00:49:06,084
And, and one of the things, like, I
think, I think we need to shift one
1096
00:49:06,084 --> 00:49:10,094
of our values around wealth in the
United States, because on the one hand,
1097
00:49:10,314 --> 00:49:14,634
I want, I want to incentivize people
who want to go make a bunch of money
1098
00:49:14,654 --> 00:49:16,334
to go make a bunch of money, right?
1099
00:49:16,654 --> 00:49:19,324
Because I want Elon Musk to make Tesla.
1100
00:49:19,624 --> 00:49:20,744
I want Elon Musk.
1101
00:49:20,914 --> 00:49:23,254
I want Jeff Bezos to make Amazon, right?
1102
00:49:23,254 --> 00:49:24,624
I want those things to happen.
1103
00:49:25,014 --> 00:49:28,344
And I think that where we went,
where we've gone wrong is that we
1104
00:49:28,344 --> 00:49:34,064
haven't, we haven't tied the value
of entrepreneurship to an equal value
1105
00:49:34,064 --> 00:49:36,329
of Taking care of the community.
1106
00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:40,319
So if you're an entrepreneur,
that's because you're awesome.
1107
00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:42,329
And yeah, in
1108
00:49:42,409 --> 00:49:45,319
America, we're so, we're so
brought up like individualism,
1109
00:49:45,329 --> 00:49:48,209
like, Oh, get yours, get yours.
1110
00:49:48,209 --> 00:49:51,379
And yes, we do need to get ours
and survive, but also you can't.
1111
00:49:51,689 --> 00:49:53,869
Get yours and then just forget
about your whole community and
1112
00:49:53,869 --> 00:49:55,089
leave everybody else behind.
1113
00:49:55,329 --> 00:49:55,539
Right.
1114
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:56,319
Cause nobody gets.
1115
00:49:56,369 --> 00:49:57,119
What's the point?
1116
00:49:57,389 --> 00:50:00,309
What is the point of a
society without community?
1117
00:50:00,619 --> 00:50:00,999
Right.
1118
00:50:01,129 --> 00:50:01,889
What is the point?
1119
00:50:02,179 --> 00:50:04,509
And like, I think what, what you're,
what they're miss, what we're
1120
00:50:04,509 --> 00:50:08,659
missing is we've, we've ascribed
honor to having a bunch of things.
1121
00:50:08,699 --> 00:50:09,069
Yeah.
1122
00:50:09,409 --> 00:50:11,399
I think what we need to do
is we need to change that.
1123
00:50:11,409 --> 00:50:11,909
And we need to say.
1124
00:50:12,314 --> 00:50:15,654
The honorable thing, the way that we,
if you want to really impress us, Jeff
1125
00:50:15,684 --> 00:50:19,004
Bezos, don't have a 500 million yacht.
1126
00:50:19,584 --> 00:50:21,374
Give away 500 million.
1127
00:50:21,764 --> 00:50:22,124
Yeah.
1128
00:50:22,294 --> 00:50:23,204
Do something with that
1129
00:50:23,354 --> 00:50:25,194
500 million party.
1130
00:50:25,524 --> 00:50:25,904
Yeah.
1131
00:50:26,284 --> 00:50:26,504
Right.
1132
00:50:26,504 --> 00:50:29,234
Like do something, do something
that kind of brings it back.
1133
00:50:29,244 --> 00:50:29,474
500
1134
00:50:30,234 --> 00:50:33,374
million worth of food to
people on the holidays.
1135
00:50:33,779 --> 00:50:34,009
Right.
1136
00:50:34,019 --> 00:50:36,979
So he could solve world hunger
like that if he wanted to,
1137
00:50:37,249 --> 00:50:38,069
if he
1138
00:50:38,729 --> 00:50:40,089
wanted to, but he doesn't want to.
1139
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:40,979
No, he doesn't want to, what he wants
1140
00:50:41,339 --> 00:50:46,209
to do is he wants to have, he wants to
have hit and you know, I think that the,
1141
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,519
the, the reality of our new world, right?
1142
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:51,359
The reality of our global boiling
world is it's not going to, I
1143
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:54,599
mean, we already saw this with
the dude that shot the, the, yeah,
1144
00:50:54,889 --> 00:50:57,219
I wasn't, I wanted to talk about,
that's what this got me thinking about.
1145
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:58,549
It's like, we're already there.
1146
00:50:59,049 --> 00:50:59,799
On the one hand.
1147
00:51:00,579 --> 00:51:03,329
We shouldn't murder
people on the other hand.
1148
00:51:03,389 --> 00:51:06,029
On the other hand, he the other guy
murdered like millions of people.
1149
00:51:06,029 --> 00:51:08,219
When you think about
it, by denying coverage,
1150
00:51:08,249 --> 00:51:13,449
if you have hundreds of million, I just,
I, I, this is gonna sound very communistic
1151
00:51:13,449 --> 00:51:20,579
of me and I don't care, but I firmly
believe if one person has a hundred
1152
00:51:20,579 --> 00:51:27,129
million dollars and another person has
nothing, that first person has something
1153
00:51:27,129 --> 00:51:28,449
that belongs to the other person.
1154
00:51:28,844 --> 00:51:29,314
I agree.
1155
00:51:29,594 --> 00:51:29,994
I agree.
1156
00:51:30,544 --> 00:51:31,924
Like we are commute.
1157
00:51:31,944 --> 00:51:33,184
We are a communal species.
1158
00:51:33,754 --> 00:51:39,514
We made all this, this whole, the
ability, the, the level of benefit that
1159
00:51:39,524 --> 00:51:42,934
we get just like electricity knowledge.
1160
00:51:42,934 --> 00:51:45,274
Like we are, we are steeped in community.
1161
00:51:45,274 --> 00:51:48,034
We create all creation.
1162
00:51:48,124 --> 00:51:50,614
All human creation is
an active connection.
1163
00:51:50,874 --> 00:51:52,704
We are all doing it together.
1164
00:51:53,014 --> 00:51:55,134
And if you say, Oh, I did this.
1165
00:51:55,144 --> 00:51:56,424
So I deserve all of this.
1166
00:51:56,879 --> 00:51:58,729
And so you take most of it.
1167
00:51:59,179 --> 00:52:01,859
You're you actually don't understand
1168
00:52:01,859 --> 00:52:02,829
that
1169
00:52:02,829 --> 00:52:05,399
you are dependent on other people.
1170
00:52:05,499 --> 00:52:07,289
It's like such a childish way of thinking.
1171
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:07,809
Oh, a
1172
00:52:07,809 --> 00:52:08,479
hundred.
1173
00:52:08,489 --> 00:52:09,419
It's so childish.
1174
00:52:09,419 --> 00:52:11,879
It's like a, like, no, these are my toys.
1175
00:52:11,899 --> 00:52:15,629
Like, no, like, I don't want to share.
1176
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:17,729
Don't you understand why we have toys?
1177
00:52:17,749 --> 00:52:19,229
It's to play with others.
1178
00:52:19,279 --> 00:52:23,829
Yeah, no, you're a hundred percent
hit the nail on the head with that.
1179
00:52:24,209 --> 00:52:24,679
Love that.
1180
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:24,979
Okay.
1181
00:52:24,979 --> 00:52:27,339
So next question, last question is, um.
1182
00:52:28,814 --> 00:52:31,484
What apocalyptic skill do you
have that you could teach me?
1183
00:52:32,504 --> 00:52:33,714
Apocalyptic skill.
1184
00:52:33,804 --> 00:52:36,004
I mean, I can roll a mean blunt Ben.
1185
00:52:36,434 --> 00:52:36,774
Okay.
1186
00:52:36,794 --> 00:52:37,084
Sick.
1187
00:52:37,104 --> 00:52:37,504
Tell me,
1188
00:52:37,974 --> 00:52:38,874
roll a mean blunt.
1189
00:52:39,494 --> 00:52:43,074
We can, what is the, well, I'll have
you show me in person, but what is
1190
00:52:43,074 --> 00:52:46,694
the, what, what do I need to, what's
the process for rolling a mean blunt?
1191
00:52:46,974 --> 00:52:47,464
What are most people Hand
1192
00:52:47,464 --> 00:52:47,904
break it.
1193
00:52:47,934 --> 00:52:48,874
Don't use a grinder.
1194
00:52:48,914 --> 00:52:51,764
Use your hands, hand break it, use a leaf.
1195
00:52:51,834 --> 00:52:53,654
I'm a fan of the Brothers Broadleafs.
1196
00:52:54,564 --> 00:52:57,194
Just, just get the tuck
in and you're good.
1197
00:52:57,684 --> 00:52:59,204
It's just one solid tuck.
1198
00:53:00,324 --> 00:53:01,164
Throw enough weed in there.
1199
00:53:01,219 --> 00:53:01,764
It's, it's,
1200
00:53:01,854 --> 00:53:04,254
I'm so out of the, I don't
even know what you like.
1201
00:53:04,284 --> 00:53:04,554
So it's a
1202
00:53:04,554 --> 00:53:05,394
tobacco leaf?
1203
00:53:05,424 --> 00:53:06,624
It's a, it's a tobacco leaf.
1204
00:53:07,194 --> 00:53:07,404
Okay.
1205
00:53:07,404 --> 00:53:07,614
That I
1206
00:53:07,614 --> 00:53:08,974
roll up in and
1207
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:10,534
Oh, oh, okay.
1208
00:53:10,534 --> 00:53:11,404
So you're, we're gonna need
1209
00:53:11,404 --> 00:53:13,409
lots of blunts in the apocalypse, so you
1210
00:53:13,409 --> 00:53:14,974
are gonna need a lot of them
1211
00:53:15,129 --> 00:53:15,369
Yeah.
1212
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:15,969
It's.
1213
00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:17,779
So that, that's good.
1214
00:53:17,809 --> 00:53:20,159
I would say videography, but
I mean, somebody needs to
1215
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:22,349
document the apocalypse, I guess.
1216
00:53:22,449 --> 00:53:23,169
Look, just,
1217
00:53:23,169 --> 00:53:25,639
just because we are in the apocalypse
doesn't mean we're not going to have As
1218
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:29,439
long as we have power, I can,
I can, can charge my batteries.
1219
00:53:29,459 --> 00:53:31,139
Then yeah, I can, I can
teach you how to film.
1220
00:53:31,789 --> 00:53:33,349
I have a whole bunch of, I have a
whole bunch of brothers that can
1221
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:35,939
all pedal like a bike generator.
1222
00:53:35,979 --> 00:53:36,619
Yes.
1223
00:53:36,619 --> 00:53:37,249
Hell yeah.
1224
00:53:37,999 --> 00:53:38,479
I like that.
1225
00:53:38,479 --> 00:53:39,769
So break it up with your fingers.
1226
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:41,549
I love using a tobacco leaf.
1227
00:53:41,549 --> 00:53:43,759
That sounds, that sounds
way cooler than a paper.
1228
00:53:44,029 --> 00:53:44,289
Yeah.
1229
00:53:44,289 --> 00:53:48,989
I, I mean, I, I fuck with paper sometimes
don't get me wrong, but like some
1230
00:53:48,989 --> 00:53:53,649
about like just a blunt, like the leaf
it's like that with a little whiskey.
1231
00:53:55,499 --> 00:53:59,209
That is how, that is how you
relax on a cold night in the
1232
00:53:59,209 --> 00:53:59,529
bus.
1233
00:53:59,889 --> 00:54:00,699
A hundred percent.
1234
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:04,039
A little bit of whiskey and
then surrounded by friends
1235
00:54:04,059 --> 00:54:05,099
because you're a good person.
1236
00:54:05,099 --> 00:54:05,719
You didn't suck up.
1237
00:54:06,929 --> 00:54:07,159
Yeah.
1238
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:07,709
We all smoke.
1239
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:08,659
We all smoke in the blunts.
1240
00:54:08,659 --> 00:54:09,869
It's community blunts.
1241
00:54:10,349 --> 00:54:10,569
Right.
1242
00:54:11,959 --> 00:54:16,229
There is something really, that,
that is my favorite way to, to,
1243
00:54:16,359 --> 00:54:20,529
to experience marijuana is a
blunt with a bunch of friends.
1244
00:54:20,699 --> 00:54:23,539
There's something really about
the passing and about you're all,
1245
00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:26,659
you're all, and then it gets silly
and you're all, it's just a fun.
1246
00:54:26,879 --> 00:54:30,679
And so it's, I prefer that way more to
like going out to a bar and drinking.
1247
00:54:30,689 --> 00:54:31,189
It's a plant.
1248
00:54:31,189 --> 00:54:31,459
Yeah.
1249
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:32,099
Yeah.
1250
00:54:32,319 --> 00:54:32,719
Delicious.
1251
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:34,379
It's rolled up in tobacco.
1252
00:54:34,489 --> 00:54:35,149
It's a great plant.
1253
00:54:35,429 --> 00:54:35,919
Great plant.
1254
00:54:37,144 --> 00:54:39,224
Rad, okay, so, um, thanks so much.
1255
00:54:39,244 --> 00:54:40,634
What, let's plug you for a little bit.
1256
00:54:40,644 --> 00:54:42,234
What do you want, how
can people follow you?
1257
00:54:42,234 --> 00:54:43,454
What do you want people to know about you?
1258
00:54:43,864 --> 00:54:45,104
You can follow me on Instagram.
1259
00:54:45,424 --> 00:54:48,044
Adamchapel underscore 14 is my handle.
1260
00:54:48,434 --> 00:54:50,324
Uh, follow the Hotbox Comedy Show.
1261
00:54:50,544 --> 00:54:54,604
Uh, that next show is, uh, December
18th, which is next Wednesday.
1262
00:54:55,234 --> 00:54:58,154
Proceeds are all going to Goody
Two Shoes, which is a charity
1263
00:54:58,154 --> 00:55:00,354
that, uh, helps Give kids shoes.
1264
00:55:00,354 --> 00:55:02,834
They came to my middle school when I
was in middle school, which was crazy.
1265
00:55:02,834 --> 00:55:06,684
They pull up in a big van, you
get to walk through it and every
1266
00:55:06,684 --> 00:55:07,844
kid gets to pick a pair of shoes.
1267
00:55:07,854 --> 00:55:08,804
So it's, it's
1268
00:55:08,804 --> 00:55:09,204
a
1269
00:55:09,204 --> 00:55:09,634
cool thing.
1270
00:55:09,634 --> 00:55:13,894
So we're trying to raise, our goal
is 500 to raise for them and cut
1271
00:55:13,894 --> 00:55:15,304
them a check at the end of it all.
1272
00:55:16,189 --> 00:55:20,519
Um, so that's going on hosted
by myself and Anthony Wynkoop,
1273
00:55:20,799 --> 00:55:21,819
another very funny guy.
1274
00:55:22,439 --> 00:55:25,099
And if people want to follow, does,
does Hotbox have its own Instagram?
1275
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:25,429
Yeah, we
1276
00:55:25,429 --> 00:55:25,579
do.
1277
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:28,509
It's, it's at
hotboxcomedyshow on Instagram.
1278
00:55:28,829 --> 00:55:29,339
Okay, cool.
1279
00:55:29,539 --> 00:55:31,679
And if you can, if you'll
send me afterwards.
1280
00:55:31,699 --> 00:55:31,919
Let me see,
1281
00:55:32,599 --> 00:55:35,889
let me see if it's the hotbox
comedy or just hotbox comedy.
1282
00:55:35,889 --> 00:55:38,519
It's hotboxcomedyshow on Instagram.
1283
00:55:38,959 --> 00:55:39,509
Okay, cool.
1284
00:55:39,649 --> 00:55:42,579
And I'll, I'll pop both of those
into the, into the show notes too.
1285
00:55:42,759 --> 00:55:45,319
Anything else, any other, any other
things you want people to be aware of?
1286
00:55:46,279 --> 00:55:48,079
Um, no, man, I feel good.
1287
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:51,469
It was, thank you for giving me a chance
to talk about my, my journey, my story.
1288
00:55:51,879 --> 00:55:53,089
One, one thing I wanted to just
1289
00:55:53,419 --> 00:55:57,419
mention for you is I know that you
are, you're, you're currently taking,
1290
00:55:57,429 --> 00:55:58,669
doing some freelance videography.
1291
00:55:58,669 --> 00:55:59,249
Yes.
1292
00:55:59,329 --> 00:55:59,629
Yes.
1293
00:55:59,629 --> 00:56:00,369
I am doing that.
1294
00:56:00,469 --> 00:56:04,929
Um, if you need any video work,
like events, I come from the
1295
00:56:04,929 --> 00:56:07,669
corporate background, mainly
like documentary corporate work.
1296
00:56:08,009 --> 00:56:09,799
So if you need event recaps,
1297
00:56:09,949 --> 00:56:10,209
yeah.
1298
00:56:10,379 --> 00:56:12,769
Live streams of seminars and.
1299
00:56:13,149 --> 00:56:15,479
And I was very corporate and
boring, but like, I'm your guy.
1300
00:56:15,529 --> 00:56:15,989
I got you.
1301
00:56:16,059 --> 00:56:18,109
So I
1302
00:56:18,109 --> 00:56:21,189
just want to pitch you on that too,
because we've had you film, I think
1303
00:56:21,189 --> 00:56:23,149
two or three of the rebels for us.
1304
00:56:23,169 --> 00:56:23,589
And I'll be there
1305
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:24,259
this Sunday too.
1306
00:56:24,449 --> 00:56:27,389
And we recently, we recently
had someone else do it and they
1307
00:56:27,389 --> 00:56:28,919
did not do as good of a job.
1308
00:56:29,389 --> 00:56:32,109
I mean, the, the filming was fine, but
what I really loved about working with
1309
00:56:32,109 --> 00:56:36,129
you is, is not only is the quality
of what you do really, really high,
1310
00:56:36,349 --> 00:56:37,819
but working with you is really great.
1311
00:56:37,819 --> 00:56:39,969
You're super professional time.
1312
00:56:40,139 --> 00:56:41,069
You, you deliver it.
1313
00:56:41,069 --> 00:56:42,389
Like your turnaround is great.
1314
00:56:42,764 --> 00:56:46,984
Um, so, so I would just really highly
recommend if, if you're looking for
1315
00:56:46,984 --> 00:56:51,304
someone and you need someone to, to, to do
any kind of video work for you, especially
1316
00:56:51,304 --> 00:56:56,504
in the Vegas area, um, definitely hit
up Adam because he, he does fantastic
1317
00:56:56,504 --> 00:56:57,584
work and he's great to work with.
1318
00:56:58,154 --> 00:56:58,554
Thank you.
1319
00:56:58,684 --> 00:56:59,684
I do travel as well.
1320
00:56:59,844 --> 00:57:01,274
That's, uh, another goal of mine.
1321
00:57:01,274 --> 00:57:04,534
I think this year I want to,
with comedy, hit the road.
1322
00:57:04,534 --> 00:57:06,294
I'm trying to take the
hot box on the road.
1323
00:57:06,294 --> 00:57:09,764
We want to go to Salt Lake, if you'll
have us over there, like type of stuff.
1324
00:57:09,764 --> 00:57:10,174
Oh, for sure.
1325
00:57:10,264 --> 00:57:10,424
Yeah.
1326
00:57:10,424 --> 00:57:13,444
And I've traveled for video work all
the time, so no stranger to that.
1327
00:57:13,464 --> 00:57:15,174
Just caught my ticket down there.
1328
00:57:15,514 --> 00:57:18,504
Let's, let's for sure, let's for
sure chat about, um, what you would
1329
00:57:18,504 --> 00:57:21,544
need in terms of, cause I, I could
probably help you find a venue up here.
1330
00:57:21,544 --> 00:57:21,834
Yeah.
1331
00:57:22,104 --> 00:57:26,794
Um, and I'd be, I'd be super happy
to, it's going to be, so the marijuana
1332
00:57:26,794 --> 00:57:28,144
lies, laws are different here.
1333
00:57:28,224 --> 00:57:28,374
I
1334
00:57:28,374 --> 00:57:28,934
know they are.
1335
00:57:28,954 --> 00:57:30,134
I know that we don't smoke weed.
1336
00:57:30,134 --> 00:57:31,384
It's just called the hot box.
1337
00:57:31,424 --> 00:57:31,694
Okay.
1338
00:57:31,694 --> 00:57:32,154
Okay, cool.
1339
00:57:32,154 --> 00:57:32,324
Cause
1340
00:57:32,324 --> 00:57:33,664
we, we, we do it in a bar.
1341
00:57:33,664 --> 00:57:35,134
So there's liquor licenses involved.
1342
00:57:35,134 --> 00:57:39,134
Anyway, we do have a bong on, there's
like a bong on the table, but it's
1343
00:57:39,514 --> 00:57:41,134
one of our sponsors, it's just.
1344
00:57:41,494 --> 00:57:42,874
Just for, for, uh,
1345
00:57:42,994 --> 00:57:43,984
just for aesthetics.
1346
00:57:44,104 --> 00:57:44,764
For aesthetics.
1347
00:57:44,764 --> 00:57:46,384
We, we do not smoke out of it.
1348
00:57:47,934 --> 00:57:48,114
, which
1349
00:57:48,114 --> 00:57:48,714
is so dumb.
1350
00:57:48,864 --> 00:57:51,414
Um, am I gonna get arrested the
second I pull out a bong in Utah?
1351
00:57:51,504 --> 00:57:52,404
Is that how it works?
1352
00:57:52,554 --> 00:57:56,144
You know, I don't, I don't know.
1353
00:57:56,144 --> 00:57:56,684
I don't know.
1354
00:57:56,684 --> 00:58:00,014
I mean, there are you, there are
smoke shops where you can buy bongs.
1355
00:58:00,104 --> 00:58:00,164
Yeah.
1356
00:58:00,164 --> 00:58:00,764
So there are.
1357
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:02,499
But I don't know what the rules are.
1358
00:58:02,539 --> 00:58:06,179
We would have to, we'd have to do some,
some, some research, but, um, yeah, I'd
1359
00:58:06,179 --> 00:58:09,739
be, I'd be thrilled to help you help
you get, um, up, up here in Salt Lake.
1360
00:58:09,739 --> 00:58:12,529
I think that, I think that there's,
there's a bunch of stoners and
1361
00:58:12,529 --> 00:58:14,159
I think I have a good reception.
1362
00:58:14,609 --> 00:58:14,809
Yeah.
1363
00:58:14,819 --> 00:58:15,589
I think it'd be a fun one.
1364
00:58:16,049 --> 00:58:16,389
Awesome.
1365
00:58:16,389 --> 00:58:16,509
Cool.
1366
00:58:16,509 --> 00:58:19,609
And then for me again, the Fresh
King Benjamin or Comedy Rumble,
1367
00:58:19,609 --> 00:58:24,319
SLC or Comedy Rumble Las Vegas on
Instagram and TikTok also on YouTube.
1368
00:58:24,629 --> 00:58:26,459
And then we're, I'm back in Vegas.
1369
00:58:26,659 --> 00:58:29,369
on the 15th, which is, I think,
going to be this Sunday when
1370
00:58:29,369 --> 00:58:31,689
this airs for Comedy Rumble 5.
1371
00:58:32,049 --> 00:58:36,249
And then the next Rumble in Salt
Lake is going to be, uh, 1221.
1372
00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:36,879
Right.
1373
00:58:36,889 --> 00:58:38,559
So, uh, check those out, you guys.
1374
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:39,689
And Adam, thanks for coming on.
1375
00:58:40,219 --> 00:58:40,829
Thank you, Ben.
1376
00:58:40,939 --> 00:58:41,689
Thanks for having me, man.
1377
00:58:41,689 --> 00:58:42,309
This was a good time.
1378
00:58:42,709 --> 00:58:43,229
Absolutely.
1379
00:58:43,229 --> 00:58:44,159
Stay safe out there, y'all.