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Hey, welcome to Water Cooler. Oh, yes. That's right. I'm excited.
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I've announced it to everybody with my oh, yes. And
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we appreciate you all for being here and not turning
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it off after the first oh, yes. Now, you know
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how it goes. All right, Chris Loxamana, kick it with
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my former coworkers, current friends with me today. All the
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way in North Hollywood, California, it's Mr. Mike Dawson. Oh, yeah. Oh,
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that was a good one. I should have done it
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like that. All right, let's hear how Kalen does it.
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All the way in Long Beach, California, it's Kalen Bean.
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What's going on?
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Oh, what the hell, man? Really? You can't just....
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What?
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What was that? That's like... I'm like John Stockton. You
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know who John Stockton is, Kalen?
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Uh.
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He's like a football player, I think, right?
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Basketball.
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God damn it. Matt knows that. How does Matt know that?
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Well, I started with a troll. I had to just
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keep the troll train going.
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That was like John Stockton.
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Just.
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Perfect lob to the mailman, Carl Malone. And then Carl
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Malone catching that ball midair and throwing it into the rafters.
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That's what it felt like. It's okay. At least you're
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Carl Malone. And then all the way in Austin, Texas. Oh, yeah, Austin.
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It's Mr. Matt Fondelier. Hey, brother. Oh, what the.
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Hell, man?
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The bit's already over. Kaelin ruined it.
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I killed it. That's like I'm Steve Nash. You know
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who Steve Nash is, Matt? And then all the way
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in Orange County, California, but a different part of Orange County, California.
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It's Gary Smith.
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Oh, yeah.
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And it's back.
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Oh, I love it. Now, people think that's me doing
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that voice. It's not. It's not. That's me.
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And that is an ode to the 15-ish minutes that
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you guys bared with me while I figured out my
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new recording setup.
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Gary's at his parents' house. They're having dinner at the
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Pacific Club. And... Why the fuck? We didn't need that
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part out there. You said it like 30 times.
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We're not live streaming.
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And....
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And Gary has a new audio setup and he's assessing
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it out. And we realized that there were sound effects
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and voice effects and auto tune and all this stuff.
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And it was all activated when Gary signed on. So
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he was just like, Hey, Hey guys, is this okay?
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Do I sound okay?
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The most demoralizing part about it was that at first
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when Matt signed on, he was like, you sound great.
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And then after like 10 seconds, and I did, by
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the way, test this with joy as well. And she
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was like, hesitated for a second and was like, wait
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for just a second there. You sounded like Kanye on
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auto tune, but like, it seemed like it was fine,
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but thank you guys for bearing with me.
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And what's all, Matt said the same thing. You sound
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like Kanye in autotune. And what is with this T-Pain slander?
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I mean, he's the autotune king.
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Yeah, that's a good point.
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Who, by the way, Dawson. I know Dawson feels about
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hard autotune. T-Pain, actually, wonderful singing voice. It's a shame
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that he has to mask it with.
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Didn't he do like a great cover of like Crazy
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Train by Ozzy Osbourne?
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Have you guys seen that? Was that T-Pain and Ozzy
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even replied to his.
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T-Pain's Crazy Train?
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I think that was T-Pain. It's a really fun video.
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I'll look it up. I don't doubt it. You know,
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I'll be honest. When singers of a certain style and
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a certain look sing Ozzy It actually is very good.
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Charles Bradley did an excellent rendition of Changes. And yeah,
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it just moved me. So I'm just like, oh, T-Pain
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doing that too? Look at that. Everyone's keeping Ozzy alive.
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Although Charles Bradley died way before Ozzy. Anyway, just saying, T-Pain,
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wonderful singing voice. And if we hear that hard auto-tune,
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it's a T-Pain thing, not a yay thing. Oh, yay.
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All right. Look, speaking of crazy trains, I went.
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Sorry that I chopped and screwed that up.
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Hey, it.
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Took a while to get there.
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I gave you enough time. You got there. Um, I
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remember I did an interview with this, this blues guitarist
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named Kingfish. I remember that. That was a great interview.
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Thank you. That guy was dope. He's awesome. But he,
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he kept talking about chopped and he listened to chop,
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chopped and screwed. Yeah, that's right. I believe that's the term.
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That's absolutely the term.
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And at the time, I was like, I don't even
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know what that is, dude. But I just had to
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fake it. I still don't know what that is.
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Oh, yeah.
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Dawson, you would hate it.
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Dawson, have you ever?
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Let me tell you this. Our first taste, or my
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first taste of autotune and what it was, was on
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Kid Rock's debut album, the Only God Knows Why song. Uh,
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he did that whole thing in auto tune. And I
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remember I was on the radio in Santa Barbara at
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the time. My boss said, he said, uh, you know,
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I really liked that song and we'd play it if
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he didn't put the auto tune in it. Really?
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So he's a purist, huh?
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He was a purist. You know, I do agree with
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him because it just always sounded weird to me. I'm, I'm,
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I'm a, I'm a purist. I don't fuck that shit.
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If you can't sing, don't sing.
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It's not even that.
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I remember one time on the Corolla show, somebody said, like,
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if only there was a... You guys probably remember this.
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Somebody said, if only there was a device that could
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let people know they could sing or not sing. And
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I said, that device exists. It's called a microphone.
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Yeah.
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Everyone can fucking hear you. Excuse my language.
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Well, Dawson, I will excuse your language. But what I
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would say is that the difference... Auto-tune... If auto-tune is
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a one, chopped and screwed is like a seven.
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Okay.
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See, there are people who use auto-tune just to fix tuning.
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Yeah.
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And as long as it's the nest okay and you
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can't hear it, whatever. I don't give a shit.
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Listen, Dawson, it's a beautiful song about a guy who
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sees a shorty at the bar.
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Right.
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A shoddy.
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He just wants to let her know who we are.
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And, you know, the night is about to end. But
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she won't leave her friends. Is it getting hot in here?
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It's a similar love story.
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It's not getting hot in here, though.
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Not at the moment.
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Okay.
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No. Yeah, Chopped and Screwed is like heroin, whereas Autotune...
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What about, is.
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She wearing a thong?
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I'm not sure if it's in the lyrics, but.
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Most likely.
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You know.
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Okay.
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Because in the thong song, she absolutely is wearing a thong. Right.
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Right.
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She says a 100% chance. It's not even a question.
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And Cisco's a song.
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Is the guy that goes, oh, yeah. Is he guilty
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of it?
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No, that's all natural.
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Oh, no, I don't mean, oh, yeah.
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I meant, okay, that guy.
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Oh, Lil Jon? Oh, Lil Jon. He may make an appearance.
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I'm not sure. Okay. It's not outside the realm of possibility.
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You know how those YouTube videos of young black kids
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just watching old, 50s and 60s singers and reacting. Dawson
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should do that with like Chop the Screw and Lil Jon.
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We should just film Dawson reacting to these videos. Dude,
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that's a new tier. That's fucking gold. Just him getting
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upset at the autotune. Actually, I don't think autotune is
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as prevalent as it was. It's not used as a
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main effect anymore. I truly think that music listeners and
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just us as a society are leaning back towards imperfection now.
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We kind of want that because things that are a
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little too perfect are jarring and we just think, oh,
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it's AI. Oh, that girl at Ole Miss, she's AI. Like,
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it's just like, there's no.
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Blanket term now.
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Yeah, there's no... If it's too perfect, we're actually turned
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off by it. And we actually need a little more
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humanity and a little more error room for mistakes and vulnerability.
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I think so. Dawson, and maybe coming back your way.
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He nodded. Well, I was going to say, yeah, I
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was going to say, I think that.
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The, uh, that auto tune, that auto tune sound that
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you're talking about is still alive and well in electronic
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dance music. started with Daft Punk and there are still
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plenty of, you know, electronic artists where the voice is
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that like, you know, as Gary said, like seven and
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above in terms of how much is being used.
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I think Daft Punk is more vocoder than auto tier.
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Okay. Oh, okay.
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It's still a sound though.
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That harsh like change of pitch.
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Yeah.
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I was going to say, am I the only one
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who's been getting recently in my algorithm? A lot of like,
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epic edm concerts like concerts from the past i don't
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know say 15 years or whatever i just i get
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served that stuff a lot and it's like they're really
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cool clips they're compelling to watch but like i just
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don't know how i stumbled into that.
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I haven't but i do like this idea of us
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going over our algorithms so gary's edm.
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I mean, not only EDM, but like general nostalgia concerts.
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Like recently I saw, it served me some clip of
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the first time Eminem did the song with Steven Tyler
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that he samples live with Steven Tyler.
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I love that stuff. Actually there.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's awesome. Not to, not to bring up
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P Diddy, but back when he was, um, doing a lot,
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making a lot of music, I was going to say
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back when he was cool, but I don't think he
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was cool back then either. Um, and, um, Oh, there
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goes Matt. Matt's gone. Matt's gone. Gary's gone. Just me
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and Dawson. I remember he did a performance of I'll
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Be Missing You, but he had Sting sing the chorus.
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Do you remember that?
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Oh, is that Diddy? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I was like, oh, that's cool.
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Now, didn't you see the documentary, The Reckoning? How many
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times did you watch that documentary? Because that was in
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there kind of heavily. He got a lot of fucking clout.
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For that shit.
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Have you seen that documentary, Gary? What do you know about.
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It?
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Gary's still gone.
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I watched that documentary twice.
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Who's Gary?
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Use your voice changer.
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Who's Gary?
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You know, that song, I'll Be Missing You, hit me
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before I'll Be Watching You. So when I saw Sing
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stinging it, Yeah, when I saw Sting stinging it. When
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I saw Sting singing it with Petey, I was like...
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I'll come back for that. Who's this guy singing with
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Puff Daddy? Who is it? And why is he saying
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the words wrong? I'll be watching you.
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Wow.
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I know, it's sad. But that's just me being born
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too late.
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It's a passage of time.
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You guys know the story behind that?
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I remember, yeah. I mean, I remember when I was
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like 14, I asked my mom if she ever heard
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of Leonard Skinnerd. You know, it's a generational thing. It happens.
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You know the story behind that song, though, Chris? Behind
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I'll Be Watching You? I'll Be Missing You. Well, I
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know it's about Biggie.
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And the song's called Every Breath You Take by The Police.
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Okay, well, whatever. I just found that out now.
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Diddy never got the rights to that, and apparently it
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makes Sting like $ 1, 000 a day to this day.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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That's awesome. Good for him.
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Because he needs it.
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If anybody needs the money, it's Sting.
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I mean, I'm sure he doesn't need the money, but
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it's still got to be a pretty good feeling to
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know that that's always coming your way.
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Yeah, I love that stuff. I remember it was about Biggie,
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but Gangsta's Paradise is a Stevie Wonder song. And I
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remember when Coolio was like, hey, can I sample this?
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Stevie was like, you can. Only thing is, you can't
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swear in it. So there are no swear words in
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Gangsta's Paradise because Stephen King was like, if you want
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to use my sample, you got to keep it clean.
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I got one for you, dude.
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He talks about bodies and chalk on the floor and
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going to let your homies up and stuff, but it's implied.
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Did you guys know that El DeBarge was not the
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original singer of Lean On Me? It was actually some
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dude named Bill Withers. It's totally weird, right?
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Who's this Bill Withers?
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I know.
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Um, but yeah, just some, you know, some nineties rap,
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90 nineties and 2000s rap talk with, uh.
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I'm actually, I'm convinced that in rock and roll all
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the way through it. And I mean, not to discount
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bands like Zeppelin and Floyd and all that stuff, but all,
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all across every single board in popular music, the early
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to mid 1990s was prime time in every genre. Everything
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was fucking good.
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Okay, I thought it was just me. Like, I thought, oh,
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I'm just being that guy who's just stuck in his era.
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No, it started with me thinking 90s country rules. And
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then you start thinking about it. Everything that fucking came
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out in the 90s was fucking awesome. And it was
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all over the place.
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Kaelin, when were you born?
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It's true.
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92, baby.
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Can't confirm.
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Can't confirm. Can't confirm. And, I mean, all the fashion's
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coming back to the 90s as well.
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Well, that's the thing is that, yeah, the new generation
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is realizing what we all knew at the time. And
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I agree, Chris. I thought I was, like, stuck in
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my ways for a moment there. But now it's coming back,
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and all the fucking 20-somethings are obsessed with the 90s shit.
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I went to the Gap the other day looking for
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the perfect T-shirt. Still on the hunt. Still on the hunt.
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And the prices are increasing. Like, now I'm, like, $ 40
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a tee. And this is getting, yeah, this is where
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it's coming to. And mine doesn't even say Franz Ferdinand
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on it, Matt. Yeah, so I went to the Gap.
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$ 40 a t-shirt there. But they're nice.
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Just to have the sticker.
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There's no sticker.
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The label.
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No, there's no label. Whatever you call it. There's a
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tagless tag on the back.
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Oh, it's tagless.
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You can't even tell it's a Gap shirt from anywhere
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else but the inside. So I have to get real
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intimate with you if you want to know my brand.
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And your eyebrows went way too high. Way too high,
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way above your glasses there.
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Don't tell me you're having a good time.
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And they had jeans on the wall and it's like
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90s fits and it was just all 90s style jeans.
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I'm like, oh, yeah. The jeans were on the wall.
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I felt like I was at Dawson's house having a
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bunch of 90s jeans just hanging on the wall.
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That was sound baffling and recycling they did work as
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diffusers they worked really well as diffusers egg crates in jeans.
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Oh look at that yeah denim walls and he's ahead
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of his time because literally the gap has paid dude
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what decorators and stylists lots of money to put their
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walls all.
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Diffusers are made out of canvas everything's made out of
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canvas so are levi's or.
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Denim okay i was just like where are you getting.
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Some canvas same thing they're very they are very remarkably
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close materials.
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Yeah oh i i agree although and so.
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That's why that's why i thought and then you know Yeah,
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after a while, and after you guys said something, I'm like,
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that is kind of weird. Since I didn't fucking spend
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any money on these, and they've only been ridiculed, I'm
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just going to throw them away.
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Here's the issue, Doss. It was because when they were
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up on your wall, it was always the back pocket.
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So I'm just like, am I just looking at Dawson's butt?
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Would you rather look at my dick?
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Hard no. He presents a good point, gentlemen. Yeah, if
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it was his fly... And then he's like, look, you
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can adjust the sound dampening. Just ever so slightly. Wow. Then, yeah,
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I guess that was the best spot. I mean, you
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couldn't have done a calf or something? A little ankle?
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Stop there?
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Say it again?
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Like, you could have just shown me the calf or
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the ankle. Just legs. Straight glutes.
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What's fun about that? Rolling Stones didn't put the knee
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of their jeans on the cover of Sticky Fingers.
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What did they put, Kalen?
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Yeah, which.
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One?
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I'm going to Google that album later. That's the one
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where that girl's covered in whipped cream, right? I don't
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know the famous album covers these days. He's out.
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Yeah.
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All right. Anyhow. So Dawson decorated. Anyway, 90s is back.
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Dawson decorated his walls in denim and yeah, chopped and screwed, baby. Now, Kalen...
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Just a recap.
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It's like a fucking carny going... Like with the collar pull.
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That was the recap. Kalen will cut that in a
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clip for social. He's like, what are we talking about today?
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Speaking of Kalen... He's working a lot, gentlemen. He's doing
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a lot. He's working too much. For those who don't
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know how we plan this show, it's very... It's an intricate,
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intricate process.
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Of Matt Monday One which my parents were brought into
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this week And it was a rollercoaster.
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So Yeah We like to go around schedules Make sure
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everybody's available for this show It's hard to get five
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dudes together at the same time That doesn't sound right Why?
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I don't know It just didn't sound right Maybe it's
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the room I'm sitting in Okay Well, as I was
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saying So it's hard it's hard to get five dudes
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together at the same time. And, um, so Matt will
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send an email to all of us Monday morning, find
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out when this week we are all available. A lot
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of the times the responses will go tonight and our,
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our plans just change like that. I snapped. It was
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a really soft snap for those who can't see. And, um,
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Kaylin lately, I mean, Gary's for the record, gary is
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always a question mark our card wouldn't believe this but
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gary is a question mark every single week is never
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a hard yes from gary.
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That is 100 true it is the nature of my
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life that i just I will try my best.
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And that's what he says. He's usually here though, but
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his best is usually good enough.
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Yeah.
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And, um, even though he says that to me, that's
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a yes, because, uh, if it's not a hard, no,
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then Gary will likely figure something out.
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Yeah.
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I mean, if I get an invite to a Lakers
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game or something, then, you know, that's true. Mileage may vary,
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but other than that, like I do my best to make.
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It same with Matt. Matt, usually if he can't make it,
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it's cause he had a doggy date one minute before
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the show. And he'll, He'll let us know 20 minutes later.
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Or he forgot the show existed and he's drunk on
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a tube.
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Dawson will respond with, what is this? What are we doing?
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Who are you people?
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What's a water filter? Right. And then Kalen. That's right.
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Kalen is one of the guys on the show, Dawson.
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Kalen lately has been probably the most difficult person I'm
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just going, guys, I'm slammed. I don't know. I don't
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think I can make it. Even this week, he's only
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doing the free show. He's not going to even be
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here for Patreon. Don't let that dissuade you from subscribing
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to Patreon, though, because we're still going to have a
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killer show. There's still going to be a great Patreon. Patreon.com
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slash watercooler. You get an extra episode every week, ad-free episodes,
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and lots of perks like movie clubs and plug tiers
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and things like that.
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And everybody who signs up for that should know you
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put the pay in Patreon.
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That's right.
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Good.
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You know, I thought it was for patrons, but no,
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it's for paying. It's giving us your hard-earned money. It's
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a money grab. So, Kalen.
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Yes.
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You've been busy, dude.
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I've been very busy.
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As he said, the last few weeks, business is good.
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It's a booming.
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It's a booming. It's a booming. It's a booming in
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the pod industry. Yeah. And look, this is, Kalen has
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another gig as well. He cleans ponds. And, you know,
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to even just double up on that, Kalen and I
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worked on a show called The Koi Pond, which is
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a podcast with the word pond in it. And it's just, yeah,
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this is just his calling. This is what it's like
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when the world's glad.
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It is.
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So, Kalen, before the show, said he has a conundrum.
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A little debate.
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Yep.
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A career... Pivot, possibly. Possibly?
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What's that like?
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Computers? He sounded kind of decided.
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Computers, yeah.
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Computers. Ken, what's going on, man?
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Yeah, so, you know, I've been doing this pond work
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pretty much as soon as I left Corolla. So it's
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been about four and a half years now. And it's
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always been just a very steady paycheck.
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Yeah, and you're good at it. I've talked to you
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about my goldfish and you're knowledgeable.
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I am good at it, Gary. I don't appreciate that.
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I am very good at it.
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He's good at it.
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I've never been fired by a client before.
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There's more on the show. I don't know if the
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fish would agree is all I'm going to say. Well,
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the ones who would disagree can't.
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There's more than a couple of mosquito fish that might disagree,
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but no koi fish. I will just say that. Mosquito fish,
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they're a lot smaller.
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Fair enough. Wait, what are mosquito fish?
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Mosquito fish, you mean a placostomus?
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Right, exactly.
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What are these words you guys are saying? What the
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fuck did Dawson just pull out?
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You guys never had a fish tank when you were
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in eighth grade.
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No.
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Nor any other year.
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If you did.
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I've been working in London four and a half years
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and I still don't know what the fuck that word is.
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A plecostomus is a sucker fish and it could look
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like a mosquito.
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Yeah. I think that's a different fish then.
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Okay.
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Yeah, they actually call them mosquito fish because they eat
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like the eggs of mosquitoes.
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Oh good. There's a good fish then.
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Oh, they're nice fish.
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Yeah.
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I don't like the word mosquito, but I guess it's like,
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and here.
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You put them, you can put them in like the
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water to prevent mosquitoes from coming by because mosquitoes love water.
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So people get mosquito fish to prevent, you know, a
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lot of mosquitoes from coming by.
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So they're very, that makes sense.
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They're also very small and they populate a lot. So
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when you're doing things like trying to do a draining
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clean or whatever, uh, Yeah. Again, you just, you can't
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00:24:21.670 --> 00:24:23.250
save all, you can't save all of those ones.
495
00:24:23.269 --> 00:24:23.609
Yeah.
496
00:24:23.630 --> 00:24:24.950
Those ones, they got to go as long as the
497
00:24:24.990 --> 00:24:28.049
big guys are taken care of. Those ones, they got
498
00:24:28.069 --> 00:24:29.769
to go. I mean, over the four and a half years,
499
00:24:29.829 --> 00:24:31.990
I wouldn't be surprised if that number was over a hundred.
500
00:24:32.009 --> 00:24:38.210
For those wondering, Kalen has a code. Serial killer.
501
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:43.519
Oh yeah.
502
00:24:43.660 --> 00:24:46.799
So Kalen is good at his job, tending to Plecostomus.
503
00:24:48.650 --> 00:24:52.309
And koi fish and goldfish I'm good with goldfish too
504
00:24:52.829 --> 00:24:55.109
and turtles I would.
505
00:24:54.650 --> 00:24:57.990
Hire Kalen to clean my pond but he costs too.
506
00:24:57.849 --> 00:25:02.029
Much he's getting pricey.
507
00:25:03.609 --> 00:25:05.450
Yeah but yeah anyway I've been doing it for a
508
00:25:05.470 --> 00:25:09.910
long time and it's a very steady paycheck the pod
509
00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:12.180
world the podcasting world has always been kind of up
510
00:25:12.220 --> 00:25:13.680
and down you get a show and they leave and
511
00:25:13.819 --> 00:25:15.779
new one up and down but the ponds have always
512
00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:19.170
been there for me And sometimes it's a really nice job.
513
00:25:19.250 --> 00:25:22.069
Sometimes it's, you know, a nice spring day. The sun
514
00:25:22.109 --> 00:25:25.630
is shining. It's calm outside. This is a client I've
515
00:25:25.650 --> 00:25:28.369
been servicing for three years. I've probably never even met
516
00:25:28.430 --> 00:25:30.240
the owner, so they don't bother me at all.
517
00:25:30.859 --> 00:25:32.000
Very routine.
518
00:25:32.019 --> 00:25:34.779
It's kind of, it can be a nice day sometimes,
519
00:25:34.819 --> 00:25:37.359
you know, sometimes it's a fucking nightmare if you have
520
00:25:37.380 --> 00:25:39.339
to do a brain and clean and it smells like
521
00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:42.410
shit or when it's in the winter and I'm getting
522
00:25:42.470 --> 00:25:44.250
up at 8 a.m. to go into the hills of
523
00:25:44.289 --> 00:25:48.799
La Canyada. And it's raining and freezing cold outside. So,
524
00:25:49.059 --> 00:25:51.779
you know, it can go both ways. But at the
525
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:54.039
end of the day, it's been that steady paycheck for me.
526
00:25:54.700 --> 00:25:59.920
But recently, yes, the podcasting world is booming. And it's like,
527
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:01.900
don't get me wrong, it's a good problem to have.
528
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.250
But every week someone else is coming to me saying,
529
00:26:04.289 --> 00:26:07.609
and I want more work from you. Like, can you
530
00:26:07.650 --> 00:26:10.630
work for me? I got like one of my hosts
531
00:26:10.710 --> 00:26:12.809
this week was like, hey, I'm moving to my show
532
00:26:12.849 --> 00:26:13.509
to twice a week.
533
00:26:13.609 --> 00:26:16.049
So. you're getting double the money you are now. And
534
00:26:16.069 --> 00:26:17.450
I was like, okay.
535
00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:21.000
Um, and this has been like just steadily increasing for
536
00:26:21.019 --> 00:26:24.180
the past, like two months, pretty much as soon as
537
00:26:24.220 --> 00:26:25.279
I got the studio job.
538
00:26:25.819 --> 00:26:27.599
What percentage of those jobs are remote?
539
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:33.650
Um, like not quite half, but almost pretty, almost half
540
00:26:33.690 --> 00:26:37.029
at this point, actually, which is, which is nice. Like I've, I'm,
541
00:26:37.250 --> 00:26:40.470
I think I'm working on nine different podcasts right now.
542
00:26:41.309 --> 00:26:44.809
And four of them, um, Well, actually, if I'm including
543
00:26:44.849 --> 00:26:46.839
this one, then I think five of them would all
544
00:26:46.900 --> 00:26:47.660
be remote.
545
00:26:47.700 --> 00:26:49.099
This one doesn't count. You don't work.
546
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:50.339
I count this one. I count this one.
547
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:50.920
I count this one.
548
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:53.099
So that's nice.
549
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:54.859
And I've worked out a system to be able to
550
00:26:55.299 --> 00:26:59.130
work nine podcasts at once and work in the studio.
551
00:26:59.150 --> 00:27:02.509
As just working.
552
00:27:02.549 --> 00:27:05.329
Wait, you work on nine podcasts at once. Dawson's currently
553
00:27:05.369 --> 00:27:11.049
working on two. I don't know.
554
00:27:10.730 --> 00:27:13.190
What you're talking about.
555
00:27:13.210 --> 00:27:15.579
I don't either.
556
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:17.299
Because literally I'm not listening.
557
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:18.480
Yeah.
558
00:27:18.980 --> 00:27:19.799
That's apparent.
559
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:22.500
So yeah, I got the nine podcasts. I got the
560
00:27:22.539 --> 00:27:24.940
studio job where I don't even count that. I'm just
561
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:28.680
like an audio video engineer for other people's podcasts that
562
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.690
I have to be obviously here for. And then I
563
00:27:31.710 --> 00:27:34.349
have the pawns. And the pawns have always been just
564
00:27:34.529 --> 00:27:37.369
one day a week. I can always, Saturday or Sunday,
565
00:27:37.390 --> 00:27:39.950
I can go. I can leave at 7 a.m. I
566
00:27:39.990 --> 00:27:43.859
usually get it back around 7 p.m. But lately, just
567
00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:46.559
the amount of work I have is like I could
568
00:27:46.619 --> 00:27:49.119
really use that extra Saturday or Sunday, not only to
569
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.559
be home editing, which takes up so much of my time,
570
00:27:51.579 --> 00:27:53.990
but also being around the kids more often. You know,
571
00:27:54.089 --> 00:27:55.089
like I'm going to have to miss a lot of
572
00:27:55.109 --> 00:27:59.069
their soccer games and stuff. So I've been debating this heavily.
573
00:27:59.349 --> 00:28:02.369
And then this past weekend, I was servicing a rather
574
00:28:02.470 --> 00:28:03.170
new client.
575
00:28:03.869 --> 00:28:04.990
You're servicing a client? They're very nice.
576
00:28:05.579 --> 00:28:07.359
Servicing a client. I service a lot of clients.
577
00:28:09.059 --> 00:28:14.279
Um, now your eyebrows, Chris are bursting through the upper frames.
578
00:28:14.339 --> 00:28:16.539
I mean, here's the thing is like, I get Chris
579
00:28:16.619 --> 00:28:20.019
with the servicing your client joke, but the word that
580
00:28:20.059 --> 00:28:20.660
I stuck on.
581
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:25.099
Was rather a rather new client. What is, what's, what's
582
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:25.480
the mean?
583
00:28:25.539 --> 00:28:26.480
It's very British of you.
584
00:28:26.500 --> 00:28:27.359
It is not.
585
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.359
It's a, I think this was my fifth, my fourth
586
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:35.390
or fifth trip up to this particular individual's house. so
587
00:28:35.410 --> 00:28:37.309
I could service their needs that they had that day.
588
00:28:39.890 --> 00:28:42.490
But they're very nice, but it's kind of a pain
589
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:43.880
in the ass. First of all, it has a net
590
00:28:43.990 --> 00:28:46.119
over it. Any pond with a net is generally a
591
00:28:46.140 --> 00:28:48.440
fucking pain because I've got to undo the thing, pull
592
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.180
it back, bring it back over. They've had a lot
593
00:28:51.220 --> 00:28:52.519
of problems even since I started.
594
00:28:52.539 --> 00:28:55.119
Why do they have a big old net over their pond?
595
00:28:55.220 --> 00:28:57.160
It's for birds. It's for predators.
596
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:57.660
Oh, okay.
597
00:28:58.160 --> 00:28:59.099
Yeah, yeah.
598
00:28:59.700 --> 00:29:05.230
But anyway, they would— What do you guys even need
599
00:29:05.259 --> 00:29:07.339
me for anymore? You guys got it handled.
600
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:11.420
So anyway, I'm doing my thing.
601
00:29:11.460 --> 00:29:13.519
I go up there and this guy lives like way
602
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.119
up in the hills in Sunland, right? The whole house
603
00:29:16.180 --> 00:29:18.940
is under construction, so no one's there. And the pond
604
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.819
sits right next to just like a dirt cliff, pretty much.
605
00:29:23.619 --> 00:29:25.539
And so this is the fifth time I'm going there.
606
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:29.000
I got my headphones in. I'm just starting and I'm
607
00:29:29.059 --> 00:29:32.049
walking to go take out the filters and I take
608
00:29:32.089 --> 00:29:36.430
a step. and then I take another step and then
609
00:29:36.450 --> 00:29:41.160
I hear something and I turn around and look and
610
00:29:41.180 --> 00:29:43.059
it was a rattle that i was hearing.
611
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:51.549
Oh caitlin is showing a sprinkler head and right next
612
00:29:51.569 --> 00:29:53.750
to the sprinkler head is a snake.
613
00:29:53.450 --> 00:29:58.869
No That's a rattlesnake dude of the rattle yeah rattling right.
614
00:29:58.690 --> 00:30:02.349
And I had my head I had my headphones in pawns.
615
00:30:02.009 --> 00:30:02.829
Time to quit.
616
00:30:04.990 --> 00:30:07.559
That is the moment that I make the decision.
617
00:30:07.900 --> 00:30:12.119
I Must have been so fucking close to stepping right
618
00:30:12.259 --> 00:30:14.980
on this fucking thing I only turned around because I
619
00:30:15.099 --> 00:30:17.369
heard the rattle in my headphones and I think and
620
00:30:17.410 --> 00:30:19.769
I think it's a baby rattlesnake too, which I've heard
621
00:30:19.849 --> 00:30:22.849
are much more dangerous and And I turn around and,
622
00:30:22.970 --> 00:30:29.069
and that fucking thing is there. And yeah, I, um, well,
623
00:30:29.089 --> 00:30:31.289
first off I left, I was just like, fuck this shit.
624
00:30:31.369 --> 00:30:34.710
I'm not doing this. And I called the homeowner and
625
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:36.160
I was like, yeah, I'm not doing this. It's a
626
00:30:36.170 --> 00:30:38.720
fucking rattlesnake up there. Um, but then, yeah, as I
627
00:30:38.740 --> 00:30:41.460
was driving away, that's when the contemplation really started to
628
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:42.099
get serious.
629
00:30:42.140 --> 00:30:44.599
Like what, what am I, what am I doing here?
630
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:45.740
What am I doing here?
631
00:30:46.579 --> 00:30:49.200
This is a nice paycheck. It's a nice fallback thing.
632
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:51.069
The only problem is if I do give it up,
633
00:30:51.099 --> 00:30:52.569
I lose all my clients that I built up.
634
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.089
I mean, I guess you do, but you have the
635
00:30:55.109 --> 00:30:57.549
body of work that you could like try to build
636
00:30:57.589 --> 00:31:00.049
that back up again if you needed to. But like,
637
00:31:00.089 --> 00:31:05.069
I think, I think honestly, bro, you're, I know a
638
00:31:05.109 --> 00:31:06.670
few of the things you're doing. I think you're sitting
639
00:31:06.690 --> 00:31:09.000
pretty in the podcast world. I think you should dive
640
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:09.720
back in that way.
641
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:10.720
Yeah.
642
00:31:11.140 --> 00:31:15.789
All right. There's some advice. That's good advice. I, yeah, that.
643
00:31:15.710 --> 00:31:17.829
There was then that moment that I was like, yeah, I,
644
00:31:18.450 --> 00:31:19.910
what am I doing? Like, and how long am I
645
00:31:19.910 --> 00:31:22.410
going to be doing this for? And, you know, it's
646
00:31:22.430 --> 00:31:24.150
supposed to be like monsoon season. So it's going to
647
00:31:24.170 --> 00:31:25.630
be raining a shitload.
648
00:31:25.210 --> 00:31:25.769
Over the winter.
649
00:31:25.789 --> 00:31:28.119
And I really, I've always said I can do like
650
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:31.339
110 degrees cause it's a pond and it's this fucking,
651
00:31:31.380 --> 00:31:33.539
I just hug get into the pond. But when it's
652
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:36.460
raining is when it really sucks. There's no escape from,
653
00:31:36.980 --> 00:31:40.480
from the water. Um, so yeah, it's, I, I think it's,
654
00:31:40.619 --> 00:31:42.329
I think it's time for me to, to hang the
655
00:31:42.369 --> 00:31:42.650
net up.
656
00:31:43.690 --> 00:31:46.529
Oh, Nice, man. Wait, you're hanging your own net up?
657
00:31:47.710 --> 00:31:48.289
Yeah.
658
00:31:48.349 --> 00:31:50.470
Well, I got two of them, so I'll be hanging
659
00:31:50.509 --> 00:31:50.970
both of them.
660
00:31:50.950 --> 00:31:51.289
Up, yeah.
661
00:31:51.490 --> 00:31:52.910
Well, a couple things.
662
00:31:52.930 --> 00:31:53.799
Keep us posted on that.
663
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:58.500
Yeah, I mean, Gary provides some really sage advice about
664
00:31:58.539 --> 00:32:01.579
what he thinks you should do. As somebody who basically
665
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:06.019
left the podcast industry and has pivoted into a different
666
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:11.500
style of career and just made a big change myself,
667
00:32:13.259 --> 00:32:17.079
I think you should stick with ponds because the podcast
668
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.660
industry is just dying, man. I mean, look, it's booming now,
669
00:32:19.700 --> 00:32:23.359
but it's not going anywhere. It's not going anywhere. They're
670
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:26.460
going away. They're not going to be a thing. And
671
00:32:26.500 --> 00:32:28.960
if you're, if your future, the future is ponds, a
672
00:32:29.019 --> 00:32:30.000
future is pond.
673
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:31.500
Yeah.
674
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:32.759
Everybody's moving upon.
675
00:32:32.779 --> 00:32:33.529
It's always there.
676
00:32:33.589 --> 00:32:34.849
It's always rattlesnakes.
677
00:32:35.309 --> 00:32:38.059
And I know you're, you're, you're even joking about it,
678
00:32:38.109 --> 00:32:40.910
I think. But again, I'm like, I'm so, I am
679
00:32:40.990 --> 00:32:44.150
really hard, tough at like, giving up work. Like I
680
00:32:44.190 --> 00:32:46.029
have all these people that I work for and, you know,
681
00:32:46.049 --> 00:32:47.750
I get like a bigger job. And then like, I
682
00:32:47.789 --> 00:32:49.690
try to go to one person and go like, Hey,
683
00:32:49.710 --> 00:32:51.799
you know, I, I don't know if I can really
684
00:32:51.819 --> 00:32:53.319
do this work any much. And if I do, I'm
685
00:32:53.339 --> 00:32:56.019
going to have to charge more. And each person goes like, yeah, fine.
686
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:56.460
It's okay.
687
00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:59.099
Like, please don't leave. And I'm like, okay, well I
688
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:01.690
guess I'll stay then. So I've now just built it up.
689
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:03.980
Like I can't give up work. I've just, I'm so
690
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.420
bad at giving up work and like letting people down
691
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.500
that I've been working with for so long. So it
692
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.079
is a good problem to have, but like the pawns
693
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.460
have to be the, the, the x-ray option here and
694
00:33:12.500 --> 00:33:13.960
especially yeah.
695
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:16.029
Yeah here's the thing you know is there there is
696
00:33:16.069 --> 00:33:19.869
another option uh it's a lot more difficult but you
697
00:33:19.890 --> 00:33:24.910
could always hire somebody and take 20 off the top
698
00:33:24.950 --> 00:33:27.150
and pay them 80 of what the pond people owe
699
00:33:27.170 --> 00:33:31.589
you you know i'd be calling nick davis.
700
00:33:31.230 --> 00:33:34.970
And say i was going you got you got boots
701
00:33:35.049 --> 00:33:35.869
nick i.
702
00:33:35.849 --> 00:33:37.109
Don't know if i need to call hey nick come
703
00:33:37.130 --> 00:33:40.720
in here for a sec But he usually works right
704
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:40.980
over there.
705
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.200
I was thinking the other way. Like maybe I should
706
00:33:44.220 --> 00:33:47.119
look into hiring like a junior editor to take on
707
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.299
some of that. But I'm also very particular about edits
708
00:33:49.339 --> 00:33:50.759
and I'm going to have to like go back and
709
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:52.740
rewatch all their stuff. I had one person send me
710
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:53.559
their work and I was like.
711
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:55.240
You suck at this.
712
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:55.640
Yeah.
713
00:33:55.740 --> 00:33:57.819
I do not want someone else– because I'm going to
714
00:33:57.859 --> 00:34:00.079
be in charge and if they're sending that and it's
715
00:34:00.140 --> 00:34:01.809
on me, I'm like I don't want that to look
716
00:34:01.829 --> 00:34:04.029
like it's mine. But the thought of hiring like a
717
00:34:04.049 --> 00:34:06.329
junior editor has crossed my mind as a potential way
718
00:34:06.349 --> 00:34:07.109
to offload some of this.
719
00:34:07.970 --> 00:34:09.849
Oh, I thought you were talking about a junior pawn cleaner.
720
00:34:10.570 --> 00:34:11.469
No, Dawson was.
721
00:34:11.550 --> 00:34:12.630
Oh, I see.
722
00:34:12.670 --> 00:34:14.570
Yeah, Dawson was talking about a junior pawn cleaner.
723
00:34:14.949 --> 00:34:18.929
No, a junior editor would make more sense. However, Kalen,
724
00:34:18.949 --> 00:34:21.469
I'm the same way, dude. You can't really trust the
725
00:34:21.530 --> 00:34:23.829
work unless you do it yourself, and it's your name
726
00:34:23.849 --> 00:34:26.510
that's on it. But if you could find somebody who
727
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:30.280
genuinely wanted to work really hard at doing the most
728
00:34:30.619 --> 00:34:37.480
mind-numbing work of all time, editing people's voices... if you
729
00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:39.480
could train someone to do it, who could, who could
730
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:44.699
deliver at your caliber, that'd be time and money well
731
00:34:44.739 --> 00:34:45.920
spent if they existed.
732
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:46.599
Yeah.
733
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:48.340
And, and the problem is I'd have to start them
734
00:34:48.380 --> 00:34:50.679
off real slow. Like maybe just a couple of clips
735
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.480
here and there on some of the paragraph, some of
736
00:34:52.500 --> 00:34:55.539
the shows I, yeah, I, uh, and then like, so it's,
737
00:34:55.659 --> 00:34:56.800
it'd be tough to be like, Hey, I need to
738
00:34:56.820 --> 00:34:58.469
hire you, but I can't really like give you that
739
00:34:58.510 --> 00:34:58.969
much work.
740
00:34:58.989 --> 00:35:00.230
So you're just going to be working for a little
741
00:35:00.250 --> 00:35:01.090
chump change anyway.
742
00:35:01.130 --> 00:35:03.610
For now it's, And it would take them about 10
743
00:35:03.610 --> 00:35:05.929
times as long as it would take you to just
744
00:35:05.969 --> 00:35:06.260
do it.
745
00:35:06.570 --> 00:35:08.670
I think Dawson's right. You should find someone to help
746
00:35:08.690 --> 00:35:09.570
you with the pond work.
747
00:35:09.980 --> 00:35:11.039
Yeah, exactly.
748
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:11.940
I'm not kidding.
749
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:16.139
Then you can keep your pond company, your reputation, and
750
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:18.489
the person still does a good job. They work one
751
00:35:18.530 --> 00:35:21.570
day a week and what, make Pay him like $ 150
752
00:35:21.369 --> 00:35:23.889
to go clean a bunch of pawns. They'll take it, dude.
753
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:26.420
Isn't that how you got the pawn job? Didn't somebody
754
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:27.019
do that to you?
755
00:35:27.260 --> 00:35:29.019
Right. Somebody did that to you, remember?
756
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:31.059
Yeah.
757
00:35:31.139 --> 00:35:33.139
I mean, the difference is the guy that hired me
758
00:35:33.219 --> 00:35:34.139
had his own company.
759
00:35:34.219 --> 00:35:37.300
I don't. I work for another company already. So if
760
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:38.480
I was then.
761
00:35:39.340 --> 00:35:42.699
subletting yeah then that might not be good.
762
00:35:42.500 --> 00:35:45.840
Can I offer a little bit of advice also a
763
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:48.900
lot of it's hard to believe but a lot of
764
00:35:48.940 --> 00:35:51.949
people in the pond industry are also very reliable and
765
00:35:51.989 --> 00:35:53.010
bad at the job.
766
00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:55.349
So if I sent them off to you know clean
767
00:35:55.389 --> 00:35:57.289
a pond and they kill a couple mosquito fish here
768
00:35:57.309 --> 00:35:58.829
and there no big deal but if they take out
769
00:35:58.869 --> 00:36:00.329
you know one of the big guys I'm gonna be
770
00:36:00.369 --> 00:36:02.590
in a world of shit so I don't want.
771
00:36:02.469 --> 00:36:04.130
That either yeah that's your client one of the big
772
00:36:04.150 --> 00:36:07.719
guys the big guys yeah Matt what are you what
773
00:36:07.860 --> 00:36:08.559
are you gonna say.
774
00:36:09.070 --> 00:36:11.190
I was just going to tell Kalen, before you decide
775
00:36:11.210 --> 00:36:13.710
to quit one of your main sources of income, maybe
776
00:36:13.750 --> 00:36:15.809
run that by the woman, the mother of your child.
777
00:36:16.969 --> 00:36:19.250
I've run it by everybody. At this point, it is
778
00:36:19.329 --> 00:36:20.610
not a main source of income.
779
00:36:20.829 --> 00:36:24.090
It is definitely not a main source of income.
780
00:36:24.150 --> 00:36:29.570
Let it go. Let it go. Yeah. Stop thinking about it.
781
00:36:30.059 --> 00:36:32.360
You've already made up your mind. You're done with pawns.
782
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:37.699
It's petty cash. Be petty, baby. Yeah, get rid of it.
783
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.590
You don't need it. Look, Maybe what you could do,
784
00:36:42.670 --> 00:36:44.809
and I know somebody who got out of it.
785
00:36:45.389 --> 00:36:47.050
There's also a wrinkle here. There's a wrinkle.
786
00:36:47.150 --> 00:36:50.889
I did just start a big show, like a big,
787
00:36:50.929 --> 00:36:53.670
big show that is becoming my main focus.
788
00:36:53.750 --> 00:36:55.250
You didn't just start this. We've been doing the show
789
00:36:55.269 --> 00:36:58.159
for so long.
790
00:36:59.179 --> 00:37:01.599
I did just start a big show that is my
791
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:05.940
main focus, and it is a football podcast. But it's
792
00:37:06.099 --> 00:37:08.320
only going to be running through the season. So once
793
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:11.110
the season's up... that source goes.
794
00:37:11.190 --> 00:37:11.530
Yes.
795
00:37:11.849 --> 00:37:16.059
But if I know anything about this situation, I would
796
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:19.179
not be surprised if it came back next season. So it,
797
00:37:19.579 --> 00:37:22.920
while not a steady year round source of income, I
798
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.239
would consider it probably a pretty steady source of income.
799
00:37:26.579 --> 00:37:28.610
And when it comes to the pond work, Kalen, let's
800
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:33.809
just be honest. You're be ponded. Matt, you have a
801
00:37:33.809 --> 00:37:34.369
good night, buddy.
802
00:37:34.489 --> 00:37:35.469
Yeah. Later.
803
00:37:35.510 --> 00:37:35.989
Yeah.
804
00:37:36.210 --> 00:37:38.789
We're going to give you an hour and a half
805
00:37:38.809 --> 00:37:41.320
of your time back. So that's corporate talk for Matt.
806
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.239
It is funny when I think I'm getting like a
807
00:37:44.260 --> 00:37:46.099
real genuine, like you really sold that one, Gary.
808
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:47.860
I thought you really had something good for me there.
809
00:37:47.900 --> 00:37:52.059
And then I did mean every single thing that I
810
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.739
said about this will be a steady source of income,
811
00:37:54.820 --> 00:37:56.900
even if it only lasts the length of the NFL season.
812
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:58.760
Like I think this will be an ongoing thing and
813
00:37:58.780 --> 00:38:00.840
I think that they will value you and you'll come back.
814
00:38:00.900 --> 00:38:03.219
Like all of that was completely heartfelt, but I had
815
00:38:03.269 --> 00:38:04.110
a pawn joke and.
816
00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:08.190
I, I don't, I don't watch it for that.
817
00:38:08.650 --> 00:38:10.769
And, um, in all honesty, I mean, I, as I said,
818
00:38:10.809 --> 00:38:13.550
like I made a decision to, uh, to leave something
819
00:38:13.590 --> 00:38:16.719
that was really comfortable that, that I was doing for
820
00:38:16.739 --> 00:38:19.059
a long time that I worked my way up. And
821
00:38:19.380 --> 00:38:22.900
I thought, you know, perspective was a huge thing. Like,
822
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:24.880
you know, I had my kid, it's like, what is
823
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.760
important to me? What do I want to have? What,
824
00:38:27.900 --> 00:38:31.519
what is like, what am I going to care about
825
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:33.340
at the end of all of this? And it was
826
00:38:33.380 --> 00:38:36.340
just the people in my life, my family being there,
827
00:38:36.380 --> 00:38:38.360
the time it's like, okay, I, that's what I want.
828
00:38:39.500 --> 00:38:41.019
I want to go to my kids' soccer games. I
829
00:38:41.059 --> 00:38:42.199
want to be able to do all that. I want
830
00:38:42.219 --> 00:38:45.980
to see all that. That's what's going to matter. It's
831
00:38:46.019 --> 00:38:47.820
not going to be whether I did X, Y, or
832
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:49.409
Z in my career. That's not going to be the
833
00:38:49.449 --> 00:38:50.869
last thought I think about. It's going to be about
834
00:38:50.889 --> 00:38:53.130
the people who I'm with and who I've met and
835
00:38:53.510 --> 00:38:56.230
the relationships I've had. So it's like, okay, that's what's
836
00:38:56.250 --> 00:38:58.190
important to me. I can.
837
00:38:59.059 --> 00:39:01.320
yeah and that's the great thing about you know as
838
00:39:01.420 --> 00:39:05.000
mind-numbing and boring as editing can be the plus is
839
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:07.929
i do almost all of it at home and you
840
00:39:07.969 --> 00:39:10.409
know i can stop and start whenever i want and
841
00:39:10.510 --> 00:39:13.250
be around the kids and home for dinner and again
842
00:39:13.289 --> 00:39:15.210
the pond stuff is one day a week but it's
843
00:39:15.309 --> 00:39:17.510
always a weekend and i'm always missing like a full
844
00:39:17.550 --> 00:39:22.139
day so it's like I'd rather be home. Again, one
845
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:23.980
of my hosts is like, hey, we're going to twice
846
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:25.219
a week. You're going to have double the work and.
847
00:39:27.139 --> 00:39:27.800
Double the pay.
848
00:39:27.940 --> 00:39:30.840
It's like, okay, well, that month's salary that I'm getting
849
00:39:30.940 --> 00:39:34.960
extra that just came about yesterday is already the equivalent
850
00:39:35.019 --> 00:39:36.800
of what my pond work would be in a month.
851
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:41.289
Then you're golden. I think this is.
852
00:39:42.369 --> 00:39:46.809
I say go for it. Your clients, I imagine, are
853
00:39:46.829 --> 00:39:48.630
just going to go back to the company and your
854
00:39:48.670 --> 00:39:49.630
company will figure out who.
855
00:39:50.429 --> 00:39:53.409
Yeah, the company has other technicians that they, you know,
856
00:39:53.710 --> 00:39:56.030
send out. So I tell them, like, I've already dropped
857
00:39:56.070 --> 00:39:58.010
a couple clients off to them this week.
858
00:39:58.230 --> 00:40:00.590
This is easy. Are you a technician?
859
00:40:00.769 --> 00:40:03.690
I'm a service technician, all right? That's my official job title, yes.
860
00:40:04.510 --> 00:40:04.730
Yeah.
861
00:40:04.829 --> 00:40:11.630
Was. I was. You're going to have to lose the
862
00:40:11.730 --> 00:40:13.360
car with no AC, though. That's going to be a bummer.
863
00:40:14.070 --> 00:40:16.179
Yeah, I looked into what it was. I actually looked
864
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:19.960
into what it was worth today, and it has no AC. uh,
865
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:24.619
two very noticeable, decent sized dents in it. And at
866
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:28.059
the mileage in year, it said in like prime condition,
867
00:40:28.099 --> 00:40:31.039
it would be worth about $ 5, 000. So I don't think
868
00:40:31.059 --> 00:40:33.000
I'm really going to get anything for the car anyway.
869
00:40:33.099 --> 00:40:35.980
And I'm debating what to do with that now too. Wait,
870
00:40:36.179 --> 00:40:37.010
what I would do with it.
871
00:40:37.929 --> 00:40:38.860
They gave you the car.
872
00:40:39.630 --> 00:40:40.710
No, I bought it.
873
00:40:41.090 --> 00:40:43.300
Oh, it's your car. I thought it was just your, Oh,
874
00:40:43.329 --> 00:40:44.710
so you've got a car just for pond work.
875
00:40:45.170 --> 00:40:45.309
Yeah.
876
00:40:45.849 --> 00:40:47.590
Oh, okay. I thought they like provided you a car
877
00:40:47.610 --> 00:40:48.449
that you have to... No, no, no.
878
00:40:48.530 --> 00:40:50.469
I bought that car just for pond work. I got
879
00:40:50.489 --> 00:40:52.039
a hell of a deal on it, but yeah, I
880
00:40:52.059 --> 00:40:53.199
did get it just for the pond work.
881
00:40:53.300 --> 00:40:53.639
Oh, nice.
882
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:57.539
Okay. Well, here's what you do, Kalen. You let your
883
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:01.980
clients go to the lesser technicians and let's be real.
884
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:06.099
They're not going to be happy with them. Unfortunately, with
885
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.260
this strategy, a few fish are going to die.
886
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:10.039
Now.
887
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:12.469
I think without this strategy, a few fish would die.
888
00:41:12.550 --> 00:41:12.820
Yeah.
889
00:41:13.449 --> 00:41:16.349
Well, I just have to make the disclaimer here. So now,
890
00:41:17.510 --> 00:41:21.230
as you are killing it in the podcast industry, once
891
00:41:21.269 --> 00:41:24.010
football season's over, you hit up your old clients, go, hey,
892
00:41:25.389 --> 00:41:28.090
how's it going with Roger? Is he taking care of
893
00:41:28.110 --> 00:41:31.239
you still? I'm like, oh, dude. Roger sucks. Are you
894
00:41:31.260 --> 00:41:33.920
satisfying your needs? Roger is not satisfying.
895
00:41:33.940 --> 00:41:34.920
He's servicing you properly?
896
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.699
He comes over, he doesn't service me properly at all.
897
00:41:38.780 --> 00:41:43.820
I am unsatisfied. Yeah. I wish... I wish it were you, Kalen.
898
00:41:44.050 --> 00:41:48.860
That's what he would be saying. And then you go, okay,
899
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:53.980
and this is your moment to undermine. And you go, well,
900
00:41:54.940 --> 00:41:59.269
you know, let's just work directly with me. And let's
901
00:41:59.289 --> 00:42:01.289
get the middleman out of here.
902
00:42:01.349 --> 00:42:03.429
I've had a couple instances of that, and I do
903
00:42:03.469 --> 00:42:06.940
feel bad because my boss at Sunland Water Gardens, just
904
00:42:06.980 --> 00:42:10.280
shout out, fantastic fish company in the Los Angeles area.
905
00:42:10.300 --> 00:42:12.860
My bad, guys. I didn't know it was you. You
906
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:13.340
are awesome.
907
00:42:14.539 --> 00:42:15.570
Hey, I got to give them something.
908
00:42:15.590 --> 00:42:17.090
They're losing their best technician here.
909
00:42:17.130 --> 00:42:18.110
I got to give them something.
910
00:42:18.150 --> 00:42:18.369
All right.
911
00:42:18.409 --> 00:42:20.349
Even if one of you goes there, it'll be some
912
00:42:20.369 --> 00:42:20.809
money back.
913
00:42:20.929 --> 00:42:22.369
They're going to be hurting for a little bit.
914
00:42:22.570 --> 00:42:25.369
Just there's such the head guy there. Jeff is like
915
00:42:25.389 --> 00:42:27.699
the nicest guy. It's a family run business. His wife
916
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:29.860
does all the accounting. His kids all work in the shop.
917
00:42:30.449 --> 00:42:31.369
He's a huge.
918
00:42:31.190 --> 00:42:33.389
Water cooler fan. I really hope you get to him
919
00:42:33.409 --> 00:42:34.809
before this episode's released.
920
00:42:34.829 --> 00:42:35.510
His name's Jeff, he said.
921
00:42:35.530 --> 00:42:37.429
I'm sorry, but we've gone this far into it, and
922
00:42:37.449 --> 00:42:39.909
you're telling us about Jeff. How are you going around
923
00:42:39.949 --> 00:42:42.329
to clients and just being on your own? I'm raising
924
00:42:42.349 --> 00:42:45.119
the price, motherfucker. I'm not coming back here anymore unless
925
00:42:45.139 --> 00:42:46.000
you pay me more.
926
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:46.780
How does that work?
927
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:51.679
No, it's... Well, I have a couple of my own
928
00:42:51.699 --> 00:42:54.679
clients that Patrick throws onto me, but.
929
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:55.900
Those are the ones.
930
00:42:55.940 --> 00:42:56.179
Yeah.
931
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.130
Those are, you know, I get the full, the full
932
00:42:58.409 --> 00:43:03.250
money during those services, but me and someone split the money. So, um, yeah, I,
933
00:43:03.469 --> 00:43:05.130
I feel, I forgot where I was going with that.
934
00:43:05.150 --> 00:43:08.710
Well, here's the thing. And I'll be honest when I
935
00:43:08.789 --> 00:43:12.050
told Mr. Kroll that I was leaving, it was clunky.
936
00:43:12.659 --> 00:43:16.400
It was weird. I like, I think I, I, I
937
00:43:16.539 --> 00:43:20.460
spoke without, um, putting a space in any of my words.
938
00:43:21.130 --> 00:43:23.070
And just doing it live on air was a weird
939
00:43:23.090 --> 00:43:23.690
choice too.
940
00:43:23.909 --> 00:43:27.050
I should have, I should have waited. I should have
941
00:43:27.090 --> 00:43:32.349
waited till, um, after the, after the, uh, the podcast,
942
00:43:32.389 --> 00:43:35.469
but I remember telling him and it was just really weird.
943
00:43:35.909 --> 00:43:38.030
And it was because I thought I knew what I
944
00:43:38.070 --> 00:43:39.289
was going to say, but when it came down to
945
00:43:39.409 --> 00:43:41.590
it and in the moment, it just got a little
946
00:43:41.610 --> 00:43:44.909
clunky cause emotions were high. I've, you know, it's something
947
00:43:44.949 --> 00:43:49.409
that I've always thought about saying and finally got to do. Um,
948
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.280
so Kalen, I don't want that to happen to you.
949
00:43:52.659 --> 00:43:55.500
What I'm going to do now is let you record
950
00:43:56.139 --> 00:43:57.780
your message to your boss right now.
951
00:43:59.340 --> 00:44:01.360
That's what I was going to say. I mean, if
952
00:44:01.380 --> 00:44:02.980
you want me to continue with the bit, go ahead,
953
00:44:03.019 --> 00:44:04.820
but I'm going to be seeing him.
954
00:44:05.860 --> 00:44:09.780
The mailman takes my, takes my pass and just chucks
955
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:10.840
it out of the arena.
956
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:18.679
Chucks it into the stance. No, I'm, I'm again, this is,
957
00:44:19.389 --> 00:44:22.559
On Sunday is when I almost died. Let's just put
958
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:23.079
it plainly.
959
00:44:23.139 --> 00:44:23.400
All right.
960
00:44:23.420 --> 00:44:24.019
I almost died.
961
00:44:24.139 --> 00:44:25.960
I forgot about that part. Yeah. That sucks.
962
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:29.159
I almost died. I almost died.
963
00:44:29.179 --> 00:44:29.739
I freaked out.
964
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:30.320
I called my boss.
965
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.360
I was like, fuck this shit. Get someone else out
966
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.280
here to do this, this, uh, client. And so he
967
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:36.179
had to like replace them.
968
00:44:36.739 --> 00:44:37.869
Um, you sound pretty rattled.
969
00:44:38.530 --> 00:44:39.030
Yeah.
970
00:44:39.190 --> 00:44:39.409
Yeah.
971
00:44:40.210 --> 00:44:42.789
Um, but yeah, I feel like Sunday might be the day.
972
00:44:42.809 --> 00:44:44.869
Right back folks. He's back.
973
00:44:46.340 --> 00:44:48.000
Sunday might be the day because I'm going to do
974
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:50.500
my rounds on, you know, the Sunday that I planned.
975
00:44:50.539 --> 00:44:51.980
And I think that might be the day I walk.
976
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:53.699
I don't want to do it over the phone. I'd
977
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:55.900
rather do a face to face. But I feel like
978
00:44:55.940 --> 00:44:57.679
Sunday might be the day I got to walk in there.
979
00:44:58.460 --> 00:45:01.159
What have you considered? We'll double your pay.
980
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:06.139
Well, they would make no money. They would make zero
981
00:45:06.179 --> 00:45:07.090
money off of me then.
982
00:45:07.110 --> 00:45:09.630
I'm sorry. I have to ask my question again. Have
983
00:45:09.650 --> 00:45:13.030
you considered an email? Because allegedly some people like that.
984
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:20.789
I have not. Yeah.
985
00:45:22.630 --> 00:45:24.070
All right.
986
00:45:24.949 --> 00:45:26.909
I'm running on a little, little sleep today, guys.
987
00:45:26.929 --> 00:45:30.829
You gotta, you gotta, it's a little satellite delay.
988
00:45:31.289 --> 00:45:31.590
Yeah.
989
00:45:31.949 --> 00:45:37.159
Oh yeah. It's okay. Um, well, yeah, the rattlesnake thing,
990
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:41.559
I can understand that. And you know, some, some would
991
00:45:41.579 --> 00:45:45.260
take it as a sign. So maybe this that was
992
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:46.500
the perfect sign.
993
00:45:47.260 --> 00:45:49.340
The beast thing, you know, a couple of times a
994
00:45:49.380 --> 00:45:50.940
year that I got to deal with a couple of
995
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.559
black widows that I've seen hasn't been so bad. There
996
00:45:53.659 --> 00:45:57.699
are bear problems at four of my clients houses that
997
00:45:57.739 --> 00:45:59.849
apparently are going around there. But it was it was
998
00:45:59.889 --> 00:46:03.449
really it was really bear problems. There are bear problems.
999
00:46:03.469 --> 00:46:05.809
It's hard to it's hard to tackle.
1000
00:46:06.500 --> 00:46:09.260
Bro, we are so done with this. Bear problem.
1001
00:46:09.340 --> 00:46:10.719
Yeah.
1002
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:13.599
Yeah, when that verse came out.
1003
00:46:13.659 --> 00:46:16.139
Bears love koi fish. I don't know if you knew that.
1004
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:18.159
Bear problem one and I'm done.
1005
00:46:18.179 --> 00:46:18.250
Yes.
1006
00:46:19.099 --> 00:46:22.420
That's how you pluralize that. Get out of there, man.
1007
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:25.929
I've never actually seen one.
1008
00:46:26.030 --> 00:46:28.630
I know other people that have and taken pictures and
1009
00:46:28.650 --> 00:46:30.690
shown me. I've never actually seen the bear.
1010
00:46:33.139 --> 00:46:34.659
That's called a warning sign.
1011
00:46:34.860 --> 00:46:38.880
He doesn't want you to see him, Caleb. Whatever he's doing,
1012
00:46:38.900 --> 00:46:39.780
he's doing really good.
1013
00:46:40.300 --> 00:46:43.260
Yeah, it was the rattlesnake that got me. That's the
1014
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:44.760
one where I was like, okay, I think it's time.
1015
00:46:46.369 --> 00:46:48.550
And then when I called my boss too, I was like,
1016
00:46:49.250 --> 00:46:50.469
you know, I didn't call him up as heated as
1017
00:46:50.489 --> 00:46:51.610
I said, but I was like, fuck this shit. I
1018
00:46:51.610 --> 00:46:54.150
was like, hey Jeff, yeah, I can't serve as this
1019
00:46:54.190 --> 00:46:57.230
client anymore. It's just, it's kind of a hassle and
1020
00:46:57.409 --> 00:46:59.690
I almost just stepped on a fucking rattlesnake.
1021
00:46:59.250 --> 00:46:59.719
That's right here.
1022
00:46:59.739 --> 00:47:03.630
And he was like, well, you know, in the pond games, snakes, rattlesnakes,
1023
00:47:03.650 --> 00:47:05.530
sometimes you got to deal with that sort of thing.
1024
00:47:05.550 --> 00:47:09.010
I was like, no, I do not. No, I do not, Jeff.
1025
00:47:09.070 --> 00:47:11.480
Please go find someone else to take over this climb
1026
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:12.630
because I am not doing it.
1027
00:47:12.820 --> 00:47:20.519
Yeah. I mean, that's terrifying. Look, growing up, when I
1028
00:47:21.260 --> 00:47:24.800
couldn't find something, I would manage to go, hey, grandma,
1029
00:47:26.090 --> 00:47:30.380
where's my skateboard toy? And what she would say, All
1030
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:33.539
the time. One would be look with your eyes, not
1031
00:47:33.579 --> 00:47:39.500
with your mouth. Because that's number one. 90s classic. 90s classic.
1032
00:47:40.059 --> 00:47:44.420
And then two, if it was a snake, it would
1033
00:47:44.460 --> 00:47:48.659
have bit you already. Because usually it's like right by me. Kalen.
1034
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:49.099
Yeah.
1035
00:47:50.139 --> 00:47:52.519
If it was a snake, well, just in case, this
1036
00:47:52.539 --> 00:47:55.659
was a real snake. So I think you need to
1037
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:56.070
find out.
1038
00:47:56.110 --> 00:47:58.090
It was ready to bite me based on that rattling.
1039
00:47:58.170 --> 00:48:00.110
I heard it was very ready to bite me. Yeah.
1040
00:48:00.610 --> 00:48:03.210
That's a fun cliche, though. If it were a snake,
1041
00:48:03.230 --> 00:48:05.690
it would have bitten you when you're looking for something.
1042
00:48:05.989 --> 00:48:06.190
Yeah.
1043
00:48:06.449 --> 00:48:10.400
And then my football coach used to say, if we
1044
00:48:10.579 --> 00:48:12.940
got thrown a pass and we didn't catch it, he
1045
00:48:12.980 --> 00:48:14.980
would say, if it was an arrow, it would have
1046
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:15.539
killed you.
1047
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.340
That's another good one. Yeah. Yeah, it's probably right in
1048
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:21.329
the bread basket, huh?
1049
00:48:21.550 --> 00:48:21.769
Yeah.
1050
00:48:22.110 --> 00:48:24.090
Right in the numbers. My boy, he just hit you
1051
00:48:24.130 --> 00:48:25.329
right in the numbers with that one.
1052
00:48:25.349 --> 00:48:25.829
Shh.
1053
00:48:27.630 --> 00:48:29.409
Oh, shit, Dawson. I'm sorry.
1054
00:48:29.469 --> 00:48:30.900
Did that hit your hands?
1055
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:32.340
Oh.
1056
00:48:32.380 --> 00:48:36.360
So embarrassing. I love those ones.
1057
00:48:36.780 --> 00:48:43.170
You sound like my fantasy team right now. Kalen knows. Anyway.
1058
00:48:43.449 --> 00:48:46.730
All right, Kalen. I think this is a good move.
1059
00:48:46.989 --> 00:48:48.570
I want you to keep me updated on it. I'll
1060
00:48:48.590 --> 00:48:51.730
help you in any way I can. Except editing your videos.
1061
00:48:51.750 --> 00:48:55.849
I'm not going to edit your videos. But, yeah. Let
1062
00:48:55.889 --> 00:48:56.130
me know.
1063
00:48:56.170 --> 00:49:00.429
No, dude. Yeah. Change is good. Go with what's paying you.
1064
00:49:01.860 --> 00:49:05.539
And fucking, you got this.
1065
00:49:05.739 --> 00:49:09.139
Yeah, you got this, dude. Change is good. You should
1066
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:12.320
try podcasting for once and just see where it takes you.
1067
00:49:13.019 --> 00:49:13.219
Yeah.
1068
00:49:13.940 --> 00:49:14.139
Yeah.
1069
00:49:14.340 --> 00:49:16.250
Well, it goes back to what we were talking about,
1070
00:49:16.289 --> 00:49:18.969
I think, on the last show, how all five of
1071
00:49:19.110 --> 00:49:24.780
us in the pantheon of how podcasts work and how
1072
00:49:24.860 --> 00:49:29.440
it all started and who the pioneers are we have
1073
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:32.860
those fucking bona fides so you might as well capitalize
1074
00:49:32.900 --> 00:49:35.800
on that stuff and and get paid for what you're
1075
00:49:35.820 --> 00:49:38.280
known for yeah i agree.
1076
00:49:38.550 --> 00:49:40.530
Yeah, maybe I'll get back to the podcasting game.
1077
00:49:40.570 --> 00:49:40.690
Do it.
1078
00:49:40.690 --> 00:49:41.280
Do it.
1079
00:49:41.659 --> 00:49:43.760
Very well said, Dawson. Would you produce my podcast, Kalen?
1080
00:49:44.780 --> 00:49:45.380
How much are you paying?
1081
00:49:47.380 --> 00:49:47.760
We'll talk.
1082
00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:48.760
Okay.
1083
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:50.800
I make a lot of money. We'll talk. All right.
1084
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.039
Well, hey, I cost a lot these days.
1085
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:54.599
Shit.
1086
00:49:54.659 --> 00:49:56.619
That works out.
1087
00:49:56.659 --> 00:49:57.320
Catching up.
1088
00:49:59.340 --> 00:50:00.610
Bean counter, right?
1089
00:50:01.510 --> 00:50:02.159
Freaking love it.
1090
00:50:02.429 --> 00:50:02.809
All right.
1091
00:50:02.849 --> 00:50:05.690
Well, look, I know we were supposed to do Klama
1092
00:50:05.750 --> 00:50:09.170
and stuff today. We'll save that for Patreon. this week
1093
00:50:09.550 --> 00:50:11.750
so why don't we go around the horn get our
1094
00:50:11.809 --> 00:50:16.769
plugs in and then we'll gtfo and start with patrons
1095
00:50:16.929 --> 00:50:20.889
recording sans caitlin because he boy needs to sleep um.
1096
00:50:20.909 --> 00:50:23.630
But i need to edit first unfortunately.
1097
00:50:23.010 --> 00:50:25.869
Needs to edit so i'll start all the way over
1098
00:50:25.909 --> 00:50:28.949
there in um wherever caitlin is he's on long beach
1099
00:50:28.969 --> 00:50:29.809
he's in la.
1100
00:50:29.659 --> 00:50:31.590
Somewhere north hollywood baby me and.
1101
00:50:31.530 --> 00:50:33.519
Dawson okay caitlin what can we plug for.
1102
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.389
You I want you all to go check out. It's
1103
00:50:36.409 --> 00:50:40.550
available now on Apple, Spotify, YouTube. It's called Adrenaline Lined Up.
1104
00:50:40.889 --> 00:50:42.989
If you are a football fan, this is a football
1105
00:50:43.050 --> 00:50:47.440
show hosted by two former Cowboys players, linebacker Sean Lee,
1106
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:50.639
two-time All-Pro, and Zach Martin, who might be one of
1107
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:55.920
the best left tackles to ever play the game. He
1108
00:50:56.260 --> 00:51:01.400
is a seven-time first-team All-Pro, two-time second-team All-Pro, And he
1109
00:51:01.420 --> 00:51:02.320
was only in the league 10 years.
1110
00:51:02.340 --> 00:51:03.360
And his last year, he got injured.
1111
00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:06.219
So pretty much every single year he was in the league,
1112
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.000
he made first team All-Pro. And he's a monster. It's
1113
00:51:09.019 --> 00:51:11.380
hosted by the two of them. And yeah, this is
1114
00:51:11.420 --> 00:51:13.510
the football show I'm part of now. I'm super excited,
1115
00:51:13.570 --> 00:51:17.090
super fun. We're just analyzing the show, analyzing games. And
1116
00:51:17.230 --> 00:51:19.710
it's a real good time. So go subscribe to that
1117
00:51:19.750 --> 00:51:20.130
on YouTube.
1118
00:51:20.989 --> 00:51:21.349
Hell yeah.
1119
00:51:21.389 --> 00:51:21.849
Hell yeah.
1120
00:51:22.530 --> 00:51:22.769
All right.
1121
00:51:22.869 --> 00:51:23.860
Adrenaline lined up.
1122
00:51:24.210 --> 00:51:28.940
Freaking making moves. Adrenaline lined up. Das, what's up with you?
1123
00:51:30.340 --> 00:51:33.260
On Saturday, I'm going to be doing a comedy show
1124
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:37.260
in Vegas again with Brett Ernst, Joe Sibb, and Amy
1125
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.699
Ashton at the Aliante Hotel and Casino. So if you're
1126
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:44.780
in Vegas or going to be in Vegas, come out
1127
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.119
and we'll hang out. It'll be fun. Nice.
1128
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.179
All right. Go check out Dawson. He's killing it. Gary,
1129
00:51:52.219 --> 00:51:52.550
what about you?
1130
00:51:53.860 --> 00:51:55.500
All right, this one might come out of left field
1131
00:51:55.579 --> 00:51:58.340
for even the guys on the show, but I am
1132
00:51:58.420 --> 00:52:01.130
like one degree separated from someone who is on Dancing
1133
00:52:01.170 --> 00:52:03.969
with the Stars this year, and I would like everyone
1134
00:52:04.030 --> 00:52:06.150
to go and watch Dancing with the Stars.
1135
00:52:05.889 --> 00:52:06.610
And support her.
1136
00:52:06.630 --> 00:52:10.690
It's celebrity chef Giada De Laurentiis, and you can vote
1137
00:52:10.710 --> 00:52:17.239
for her by texting GIADA, which is G-I-A-D-A, to 24523.
1138
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:19.440
So watch Dancing with the Stars and support Giada.
1139
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:20.469
Ooh!
1140
00:52:21.630 --> 00:52:22.030
Nice.
1141
00:52:22.630 --> 00:52:26.369
Left field for sure. But yeah, Giada. Watched her on
1142
00:52:26.389 --> 00:52:30.199
the Food Network growing up. Many years. Matt, what about you?
1143
00:52:31.340 --> 00:52:34.699
Just reminding people, patreon.com slash watercooler.
1144
00:52:35.139 --> 00:52:35.980
Five bucks a month.
1145
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:38.510
Listen to the second half of all of our episodes.
1146
00:52:39.050 --> 00:52:42.230
Get some of those commercial free episodes. Again, we got
1147
00:52:42.289 --> 00:52:45.289
movie clubs, meetups. If you haven't had a chance to
1148
00:52:45.329 --> 00:52:48.530
watch Speed yet, that's this month's movie pick by our
1149
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:52.320
own Caelan Bean. But yeah, really appreciate the support. Please
1150
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:53.039
support us.
1151
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:55.679
Hell yeah. And I'm very sorry. Can I make a
1152
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:58.179
correction to mine? I had the text too small. You
1153
00:52:58.219 --> 00:53:02.699
text GIADA, G-I-A-D-A to 21523. Sorry about that.
1154
00:53:04.059 --> 00:53:07.280
So that's patreon.com slash watercooler.
1155
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:07.719
Perfect.
1156
00:53:08.179 --> 00:53:09.380
Caelan, you can edit that, right?
1157
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:10.500
I like getting the points at the.
1158
00:53:10.420 --> 00:53:15.329
Same time there. All right. And as for me, I'm
1159
00:53:15.349 --> 00:53:16.989
just going to plug all the other boys on this show.
1160
00:53:17.050 --> 00:53:22.610
I mean, talk about glow ups. You know, Kalen's killing it. Dawson, Matt, Gary.
1161
00:53:23.070 --> 00:53:25.639
Very proud of you guys. Kalen's done killing it. Kalen's
1162
00:53:25.659 --> 00:53:29.880
done killing it. But he's making some moves. And yeah,
1163
00:53:30.099 --> 00:53:32.440
just proud of you guys. Always love seeing what you're
1164
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:35.199
up to and what you've become. I'm a proud papa
1165
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.920
over here. Proud of you. Thanks, man. But yeah, just
1166
00:53:39.340 --> 00:53:43.719
pumped on that. So yeah, love you guys. And yeah. Please,
1167
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:48.079
keep supporting these dudes because they're making good changes. All right.
1168
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:50.389
That'll do it for this episode of Water Cooler. We'll
1169
00:53:50.429 --> 00:53:52.369
see you next week.
1170
00:53:52.429 --> 00:53:52.670
Sorry.
1171
00:53:52.730 --> 00:53:54.750
We'll see you this week and next week and all
1172
00:53:54.769 --> 00:53:59.590
the weeks. All my statements were true. We love you.
1173
00:54:00.349 --> 00:54:00.630
Goodbye.