Shannon Green and Dewayne Bell Pt. One

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Thank you.
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Welcome back to our latest series of episodes of The
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Path Went Chilly, and per usual, I'm going to be
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sharing the details about a case with Jules, and she
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will be giving off her reaction and analysis. So Jules,
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have you ever heard about the 1986 disappearances of Shannon
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Green and Dwayne Bell?
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Are the two disappearances connected?
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They are, yes. They took place in Owensboro, Kentucky within
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five days.
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Of each other.
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I don't think I've heard of these cases. I always
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find it fascinating when there's cases that are linked like
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the Bardstown cases.
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Well, what's interesting about this one is they're both young
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people because Shannon Green was only 16 years old and
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Dwayne Bell was only 18. But there's been speculation that
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Dwayne may have been personally responsible or involved in Shannon's
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disappearance before he himself went missing. So there's been a
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lot of debate about whether he was a victim. or
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a willing participant. And this turns into a very convoluted
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story because there are some very shady characters. There's a
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guy named John Rainier who claimed that he heard Dwayne
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confess to Shannon's disappearance before he went missing, but there's
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been speculation that maybe Rainier made up this story because
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he killed Shannon Dwayne and was trying to pass the
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blame onto Dwayne. And Dwayne's father, David Lee Bell, was
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a pretty shady character, so there's been speculation that maybe
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if Dwayne killed Shannon, that David helped him disappear, or
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perhaps even killed him. And if this wasn't convoluted enough,
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there was another woman named Angie Dickens who was murdered
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in Owensboro during the same time period, and her murder
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is still unsolved. So people are wondering if that case
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is connected, if maybe Dwayne or his father or maybe
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someone else killed her, and all these three unsolved cold
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cases are linked together.
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Well, the fact that this is in Kentucky and I
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brought up Bardstown, it's sounding almost as convoluted and confusing
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as those cases. And as we attempt to either link
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them together or dismiss that, dismiss any suggestions that they
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could be linked together, I'm really interested to hear all
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of the details, especially since it seems like there's no
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shortage of suspects here.
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Yeah, this is a major rabbit hole. I had not
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heard of this case, and it was suggested to me
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by a listener, and I covered it on The Trail
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Went Cold just over five years ago, and once I
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started digging deeper, it just never ended, and so I
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honestly can say I have no idea what happened in
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this particular case. There are just any number of potential scenarios.
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So like I just said, it took place in Owensboro,
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Kentucky in 1986, and Shannon Green was 16 years old
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at the time, living with her family, and on July
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the 6th, Shannon left her residence and told her mother,
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Lois Green, that she was going to babysit for a
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family friend named John Rainier, who was 39 years old
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at the time and lived two miles away. But Shannon
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never returned home that day, and when she failed to
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resurface by the following afternoon, her mother contacted the police
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to report her missing. A few days later, Lois then
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received a phone call from a young man calling himself Dwayne,
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who told her that he and Shannon had run away
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together in order to get married, before he abruptly hung up.
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And of course, this being the 1980s, the police pretty
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much took this like gospel, and thought that, well, if
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he said that they ran away, that must be what happened,
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and I don't think they really took her disappearance all
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that seriously. But needless to say, Shannon's family did not
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believe she ran away, because she left all her personal
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belongings behind, and even though she had a steady boyfriend
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at the time, his name was not Dwayne, and they
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had no idea who this person could be.
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So we're supposed to believe that she has, what, like
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a secret boyfriend that not even one of her friends
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knew about? And he's so secret that she's going to
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run away with him and she's not going to take
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any of her belongings. And it just so happens that
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the time that she chooses to leave or slash run
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away is just after babysitting for the Rainier family. It
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feels like if you're going to run away with this
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secret lover... then perhaps you would do it on a
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day where you've got time to get your ducks in
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a row. It doesn't sound like babysitting and then just
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running away would be the plan for most people.
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Well, as we're going to talk about, she never did
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show up to do any babysitting that day, so it
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sounds like this probably was a cover story, regardless of
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what she was actually planning to do, but no one
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really believed that she just suddenly decided to get married
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at age 16 to this person that her family didn't
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know about and disappear. But of course, once you put
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that ID into the police's head, they're going to use
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that as an excuse not to do anything.
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And refresh my memory, what year is this again?
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1986.
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Oh my gosh, that is why. It's like in 1986,
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if somebody called in and said, this is what happened,
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they took it like gospel, especially with any disappearances. But
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with a child, a 16-year-old, you're not going to look
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into this. You're just going to go, okay, oh, yep.
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It doesn't seem weird at all that she already has
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a steady boyfriend and that nobody knows about this guy
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that she's going to go get married to. It all
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seems very unbelievable. And the fact that law enforcement, who
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you'd think would be trained to detect deception, seems unwilling
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or unable, or maybe they just wrote off most disappearances
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and this was the easy way out rather than investigating.
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But it's shocking and it's so disappointing when we hear
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that these aren't investigated properly and that something is taken
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at face value that seems so absurd.
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Yeah, and in retrospect, it seems obvious that whoever made
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that phone call was trying to orchestrate a false cover
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story to make it look like Shannon disappeared voluntarily. But
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whoever made the call was likely involved in what happened
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to her. But it did turn out that she was
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acquainted with an 18-year-old young man named David DeWayne Bell,
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who went by his middle name DeWayne. It doesn't sound
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like they were close friends, but they were kind of
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casual acquaintances, and had apparently been seen together at a
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mutual friend's home the night before Shannon went missing. But
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what made the story grow even stranger is that on
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July the 11th, just five days after Shannon went missing,
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DeWayne also went missing.
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Um.
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The details of how he disappeared are very vague, all
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they just say is that on July the 11th, his
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abandoned bicycle was found resting against a fence at his
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sister's house, but no one really knows the circumstances of
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how he went missing. But of course, everyone who knew
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Dwayne was pretty concerned because he was known for taking
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very good care of his bike and would never leave
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it unattended like that. But it was actually over a
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week before Dwayne's mother contacted the police to officially report
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him missing because she was divorced from Dwayne's father, David Liebel.
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And instead of David contacting the police, he abruptly decided
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to move to Tucson, Arizona with his new girlfriend. So
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investigators initially wondered if perhaps Dwayne had gone to Tucson
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with his father, but when they finally questioned David, he
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confirmed that he had not actually seen his son since
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July the 11th. But right away you can see some
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red flags here that David, even though his son has
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just disappeared without explanation, he just decides to permanently move
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out of town to an entirely different state.
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I mean, if there was no plans prior to the move,
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and that he just kind of out of the blue
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was like, yeah, Tucson, that seems like a good idea.
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It does look pretty sketchy. All of this is very odd.
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Yeah, that's all you can say about it, is that
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the circumstances are very odd. So to recap, Shannon went
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missing on July the 6th, and the last time Dwayne
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was confirmed to be alive was July the 11th, but unfortunately...
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In all the sources I found during my research, I
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could not find out the exact date that this phone
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call took place to Shannon's mother, Lois, from the person
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who claimed that he was Dwayne and that he had
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run off with Shannon and got married. Because if it
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took place between July the 6th and the 11th, then
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it's possible that Dwayne himself could have made the phone call,
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especially if he was involved in Shannon's disappearance. But if
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it took place after July the 11th, after Dwayne went missing,
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then it's possible it was someone else impersonating him. And
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I don't believe Lois had ever met Dwayne personally, so
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she couldn't tell if it was his voice on the phone.
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She was unable to recognize it.
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Is Dwayne's body ever recovered, or does he simply just
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vanish into the ethers?
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Yeah, he just vanishes without a trace. He has not
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been found to this day.
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So, there is a possibility that.
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So Shannon goes missing, and then what, four or five
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days later, then Duane goes missing?
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Yes, and we don't know when this phone call took place,
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if it took place before or after Duane went missing,
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because if it took place during that five-day window, it
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could have been Duane who made the phone call.
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So it's possible that he could have kidnapped Shannon, she
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might have gone of her own free will or not,
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and she could have been being held somewhere or hiding somewhere,
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and then the two of them decided to leave together?
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Yeah, like possibly, or Dwayne was the one who killed Shannon,
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and he was just trying to throw off her mother
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by trying to say that she ran away voluntarily if
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he was directly responsible.
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And if that was the case, do you think that
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Dwayne then tried to stage his own disappearance and make
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it look like somebody might have done something to him
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in order to make it look like, okay, we better
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not go. looking for him. Someone's done something to him.
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He can't be the one who's responsible for what happened
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to Shannon.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't think Dwayne is sophisticated enough
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to stage his own disappearance because he was such a
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young man, but there has been speculation, though, that if
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Dwayne is completely innocent, that someone killed him in order
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to make it look like he ran away with Shannon
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and put all the blame on him. And as we're
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going to talk about, this family friend John Rainier is
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going to be looked at as a potential suspect. Some
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people think that he was the one who made the
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phone call and impersonated Dwayne. But the issue with that
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is that he was acquainted with Shannon's mother, Lois. So
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if he had been the one making the phone call,
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it's possible that Lois would have recognized his voice.
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Okay, so she told people that she was supposed to
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be babysitting for the Rainiers. And do we have anybody's
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word except for John Rainier after the fact, who's saying
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that she didn't show up for babysitting or there was
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no babysitting?
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Actually, Rainier would say that he never planned to have
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her come over there to go babysitting. So we don't
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really know if that was ever planned, that if Shannon
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was lying because she had something else planned, or maybe
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if Rainier was responsible, he told her to come to
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his house to babysit and then used it as an
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opportunity to do something to her.
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But if you were Rainier and the authorities are asking you,
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I think the right answer probably would be, I never
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had plans for Shannon to come over and babysit. I
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don't know what you're talking about.
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Yeah, and that's pretty much what he does say. So
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I'll go into his background now. He was actually acquainted
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with Dwayne and David Bell because he worked at the
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same construction company as David. And I know that Dwayne
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often spent quite a bit of time hanging out with Rainier.
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But the issue is that Rainier was known as a guy,
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a cool dad type of person who would let young
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people come to his house to party. So that might
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have been the cover story for babysitting. She just thought
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she was going to go over there to like drink
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or smoke grass or something like that. And Rainier said
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that he acknowledged that he did speak to Shannon on
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the phone on the morning of July the 6th, right
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before she went missing. But he maintained that there was
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no babysitting involved and that he never showed up at
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her residence again. He said that when he spoke to
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Shannon on the phone, he told her that he was
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going to a barbecue at his mother's place and would
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not be at his home, and Shannon just told him
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that she might come by or call back later that night,
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but for now, she was just going to go hang
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out for a while. and possibly go over to Duane's place.
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But of course, we only have Rhaenyra's word that this
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is exactly what she said, and we don't know what
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actually happened to Shannon, but it seems clear to me
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that no matter what happened, I do think that this
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babysitting story was a cover, and that Shannon only told
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her mother she was going to go over there, even
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though she had plans to do something else.
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That's really interesting, but I also find Can we please
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acknowledge that you said smoke grass?
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Oh, yeah.
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Does anyone use the word grass anymore?
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You gagged me with that one.
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Did they use that in the 80s still or is
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that just a 70s thing?
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I have no idea. I have not heard that except
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maybe as like a relic of days gone by in movies.
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But I love that you said that rather than calling
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it weed or marijuana or whatever. But this whole story
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is so difficult to digest because... Rainier, we know so
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little about right now. And he's a family friend. Like
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you said, the cool dad. I always think of like
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the cool mom on Mean Girls where she's like, I'm
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not like other moms. I'm a cool mom. And they
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asked for margaritas and Katie Herring is like, is there
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alcohol in there? She's like, oh no, do you want some?
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So I think of that when I think of like
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the phrase like cool mom or cool dad. And if
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you're having teenagers over to drink at your house, You
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have to wonder the motivation. Is there a Mrs. Rainier
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in the picture?
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I actually don't know. Like, I'm assuming that he had kids,
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but I don't have any information whatsoever about his family.
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So I have no idea if he was still married
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to his wife at that point. Yeah.
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And like, if your kids are so young that they're
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being babysat, it does seem a little bit odd that like,
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you're not just the cool dad, but like you're allowing
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teenagers to come over and and partake in illegal substances,
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it's a little bit of a red flag for me.
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It's like that movie Ma, right? Like it's just, if
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your kids were the same age, it would be a
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different story. But if you're just inviting teenagers over, it
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strikes me as a little bit strange.
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Well, I'm going to go into more details about John
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Rainier's background, and some major alarm bells are going to
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go off over your head once you find out what
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type of guy this was, because surprise, surprise, he actually
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spent quite a bit of time in prison in the past.
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His first offense took place in 1966 when he was
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convicted of armed robbery. He served 19 months in prison
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before he was paroled. But then in November of 1971,
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both he and accomplice were charged with the shooting death
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of a man named John Brainerd, and Rainier wound up
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being convicted of conspiracy to commit murder and received a
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sentence of life imprisonment. In July of 1976, Rainier escaped
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from the Kentucky State Penitentiary after taking a prison employee
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hostage at night point, though he was recaptured within 24 hours,
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but you would think that a man who was serving
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a sentence for life imprisonment and attempted to escape... by
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taking an employee hostage, would never get out of prison,
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but it appears that at some point over the next
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10 years, Rainier actually got paroled for whatever reason. He
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got off with a really life sentence, and I have
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no idea if Shannon and her family were aware of
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Rainier's criminal history when they became friends, or if this
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was a secret that did not come out until after
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Shannon went missing, but obviously this is not a guy
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that you want to send your teenage girl to to babysit.
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Yeah, I would think the vetting process for people who
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are going to hire your children to babysit wouldn't be
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the same in the 1980s. I think that the panic
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over people doing things to your children and there being
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people out there who could murder or essay your children
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or do any number of horrible things, the attitude wasn't
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quite as prevalent as it is today because we just
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have the access to the information now and Everything is
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true crime related, every TV show and documentary, and we
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are inundated with this information. And so I feel like
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it creates this culture of caution, especially with regards to children.
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You're not going to allow your kid to go over
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to someone's house that you don't know. And if you
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don't know Rainier, you're going to be asking around. And
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if you find out that this person spent time in prison,
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I would think that most parents would not allow their
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children to go over there. Depending on what the charges are,
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I mean, if it was like white collar crime or something,
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I think most parents would look past it. But if
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it's something that is violent or a felony, then I
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think that most responsible parents would think twice.
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Yeah, I don't have Rainier's actual parole date, but I
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have to think that once he was released from prison,
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he must have done a successful job of reinventing himself
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and establishing himself in the community. And he obviously had
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kids at some point if Shannon was going over to
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babysit for him. So I'm guessing that the Green family
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just knew nothing about his backstory, and he probably had
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the reputation for being the cool dad in the neighborhood,
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and that none of them were aware that he'd actually
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spent time in prison for murder. But if that wasn't
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bad enough, it turned out that at the time Shannon
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went missing, Rainier was actually awaiting trial for another crime,
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because back in 1985, he was indicted on the charges
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of first-degree sodomy after a woman accused him of sexual assault.
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And he was on bond, and I honestly don't know
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if Shannon and her family was aware of that, that
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he was actually awaiting trial on a sexual assault charge.
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And only a month after Shannon went missing, Rainier finally
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went on trial, and he did wind up being acquitted.
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But obviously, since he had such an extensive criminal history,
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investigators started looking at him as the strongest suspect and
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wondered if he might have been capable of not only
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harming Shannon, but harming Dwayne as well, because we knew
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he was acquainted with Dwayne and his family.
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Well, those charges are really disturbing. And Rainier is starting
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to be, in my eyes, the guy holding up all
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the red flags. Like you said, the information that you
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are about to share and the information you just shared
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is definitely triggering alarm bells for me. And if he's
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not the one who did it, then by golly, he
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certainly has some bad luck with all the charges in
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his past. And then this just happens to be the
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place that A girl who disappears who's 16 ends up
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saying that she's going for her alibi while doing something else.
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Yeah, I mean, this is what's crazy about the story
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is that when I started researching it and hearing all
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these backgrounds about Rainier, I kept thinking, yeah, he has
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to be responsible for what happened to these two kids.
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But as we go along, there are going to be
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so many twists and turns that I'm honestly not sure
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what to think. But what further complicated this whole situation
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is that less than a month before Shannon went missing
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on June the 17th, a 23-year-old woman named Mary Ethel Dickens,
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who went by the name Angie, also had gone missing.
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She had been out at a bar with a pair
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of friends, and at the time, Angie, I don't think,
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had a permanent residence. She was staying at a motel
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called the Owensboro Motor Inn. but her two friends took
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her back to the motel and said that as they
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were leaving, they saw Angie speaking with two unidentified men
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in an older model car, but this was the last
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time she was confirmed to be alive. And because Angie
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didn't live with anyone, and it wasn't uncommon for her
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to take off for days at a time because she
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kind of had a transient lifestyle, she was not actually
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reported missing by her sister until July the 8th. In
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between the time that Shannon and Dwayne went missing. But
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three and a half months later, on October the 2nd,
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Angie was finally found two miles outside of Owensboro by
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a hunter in a cornfield on Lower River Road near
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the Little Hurricane boat ramp. By that point, her body
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was so decomposed that investigators were unable to determine her
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exact cause of death, but they definitely believed that she
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was the victim of a homicide, and of course, they
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started wondering, could her death have been connected to the
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disappearances of Shannon and Duane?
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So, what is the population of this place in Kentucky?
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Let me just look it up. Owensboro. It's actually the
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fourth most populous city in Kentucky, and had a population
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at that time of... Around 53,000.
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And what were the typical murder rates per year? Yeah,
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just say through the 1980s.
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Okay, see if I can find information about that. There's
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actually a decent amount of cold cases. Like you would
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get maybe like one murder every two years because I
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know there was a homicide in 1980, 1982, 1984. So
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it doesn't look like it had a plethora of violent crime,
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but we would still get one. But I don't think
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there were any other time periods during the 1980s where
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they had one person get murdered and two people go
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missing within the window of less than one month.
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Yeah, that's a bit of a cluster. It seems like
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it would be something that would be incredibly atypical or
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like aberrant because if we're looking at one murder a
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year and we can maybe make the assumption or the
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jump that like we didn't have two people disappear here
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and go and start a new life. Did something happen
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to them? Just because we haven't discovered the bodies doesn't
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mean that they are not deceased because they were never
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heard from again and there was no sightings of them
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to speak of, was there?
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No, there haven't been, as far as I can tell.
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But yeah, even though Angie Dickens didn't have any personal connection,
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as far as I could tell, with Shannon and Dwayne,
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of course it kind of raised flags that maybe there's
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a serial killer in town who was just preying upon
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random victims. And whoever did this originally did not intend
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for Angie to be found, because she was missing for
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three and a half months before she was discovered. So
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maybe they just got very, if the same person did this,
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they just got very sloppy when they tried to dispose
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of Angie's body, but did a much more effective job
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of Shannon and Dwayne's bodies, which is why they haven't
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been found in 40 years.
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But doesn't it seem strange? Like, okay, so you're a
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serial killer and you're going to pick victims at random.
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There's a connection between Shannon and Dwayne. Like, they are connected.
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So I think it would increase your probability of getting
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caught if you are going to kill someone within a
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friend group versus picking completely random victims that you have
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zero connection to.
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Yeah, and that's the thing with Angie is because she
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lived a transient lifestyle and didn't reside with anyone, it
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took a while for anyone to even notice she was missing,
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whereas Shannon and Dwayne had families who obviously would notice
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they disappeared. So it definitely seems like a completely different MO.
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So the investigation into all three of these cases would
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pretty much hit a standstill, but surprise, surprise, John Rainier
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would get into more trouble with the law, because it
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was just over one year later. when another woman accused
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him of sexual assault, and he was once again charged
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with first-degree sodomy. And this time, when he went on trial,
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he was found guilty of the charge, as well as
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the charge of being a first-degree persistent felony offender, and
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he wound up receiving a sentence of life imprisonment. But
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yet again, he wound up only serving 13 and a
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half years, and he got paroled. So that seems to
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be a consistent pattern for this guy. He keeps going
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to prison for horrible crimes, getting a life sentence, yet
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winds up getting parole. So, He must be one of
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those model inmates who does a very good job at
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being charming and convincing people he's reformed and then convincing
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them to like give him parole.
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I truly hate that, especially when it's someone who's going
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to prison for crimes against women, whether it be violence
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or it be sexual assault or rape. And then they
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go into prison and surprise, surprise, they're surrounded by a
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bunch of men and they're all of a sudden this
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ideal prisoner. It's like, of course, because their ideal victim,
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isn't behind prison walls. So I think it's a lot
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easier to behave when there's nobody that you want to
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victimize within the vicinity.
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Yeah, that's pretty much the thing. I see this a
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constant pattern on shows like Unsolved Mysteries, where you hear
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about wanted fugitives who got these heavy prison sentences and
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then were released after only serving a couple years, and
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then they interview the warden and the guards saying, oh,
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he was such a model inmate, we thought he had
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truly reformed. And then, of course, when they get released,
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they go on to commit more crimes. Now, to be fair,
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it sounds like John Rainier has kept his nose clean
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since he was paroled in 2001. He has never been
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charged with any more crimes. And I think he tried
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to present himself an image of being a reformed criminal
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because in 2003, he would make the news after he
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was caught protesting an adult business where he started taking
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photos of all the customers as they entered and exited
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the establishment. And then he would subsequently post their photos
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on a website for a watchdog group called Warline, which
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pushed forward the message that adult businesses and pornography degrade
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women and encourage sex offenders. And he seemed to be
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implying that it was porn and adult entertainment that drove
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him to commit his previous sexual offenses, so now he
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was going out of his way to try to prevent
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people from doing the same thing, which is kind of
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the opposite of taking responsibility for your own actions. It's
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kind of like he's blaming the fact that, oh, I
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watched a lot of porn when I was younger, I
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went to adult entertainment establishments, and that drove me to
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rape and sodomize these women.
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Ugh, I hate this. It reminds me of the video
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games made me do it type of defense when it
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comes to violence. They've done studies on this, and people
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that play video games actually commit less violent offenses. And
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I don't know what the statistics are for porn and
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sexual assault, if people are more inclined to commit those
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types of crimes. But at the end of the day,
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it might be something that could serve as a catalyst,
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but you already have that desire or capability within you.
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Because plenty of people watch porn, and they don't go
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on to commit crimes like that. And like you said,
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it's just a way for somebody to point the finger
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outward rather than pointing the finger back at themselves and saying,
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how did I contribute to this? How did my actions
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or my choices get me to where I am? It's
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easier to be like, they did it. It's their fault.
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I'm going to stand outside this adult business and take
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photos of people and be on my sanctimonious high horse.
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00:26:38.670 --> 00:26:41.349
Yeah, exactly. It really sounds like he's projecting rather than
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taking responsibility of his own actions, because he's painting himself
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as a guy who's exposing sex offenders, but people who
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frequent adult stores and rent pornography are not sex offenders.
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It's people who, like, harm people. Like, they're just trying
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to view their own entertainment, so it's not quite the
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same thing as taking photographs of someone who's trying to
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abduct a child or something like that. But of course,
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since Rainier was making the news again, a new team
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of cold case investigators decided to reopen the case into
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David and Shannon's disappearances, and they brought in Rainier to
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be re-interviewed, and suddenly he shared a very shocking story,
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which he did not reveal way back in 1986. Rainier
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00:27:22.140 --> 00:27:25.299
claimed that on July the 9th, 1986, three days after
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Shannon went missing, Dwayne suddenly phoned him up and told
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him that they needed to have a private conversation. So
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by this point, Rainier was being looked at as a
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00:27:33.990 --> 00:27:37.609
possible suspect in Shannon's disappearance, so Heath said that he
537
00:27:37.650 --> 00:27:39.890
thought that Dwayne might have been wired by the police
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in order to collect evidence against him, so to cover
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00:27:43.130 --> 00:27:47.230
his bases, Rainier decided to wire himself and secretly record
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his conversation with Dwayne. And according to Rainier, Dwayne asked
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if he could borrow some money because he needed to
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get out of town after quote-unquote... hurting some girls. And
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as they continued speaking, Duane gradually admitted that he'd actually
544
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killed a couple people and buried their bodies in a cornfield.
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Duane never provided any specific details about this crime, so
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the following day, Rainier finally confronted him and demanded that
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he show him the location of the bodies, and that night,
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Rainier claimed that Duane took him to a remote cornfield
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located across from the railroad tracks on Griffith Station Road
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near Kentucky Route 279, And that's when he proceeded to
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dig up the body of Shannon Green.
552
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:31.720
This sounds like a really wild story. I don't know
553
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how much truth there is in it. If it is true,
554
00:28:35.819 --> 00:28:40.779
then it's absolutely off the charts. It's insanity that you
555
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.359
would go and then show somebody else the evidence of
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00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:49.200
your crime by digging up the body. It doesn't really
557
00:28:49.460 --> 00:28:51.380
ring true to me. What do you think?
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00:28:52.140 --> 00:28:54.880
Well, when I first started researching this case, I said, no,
559
00:28:54.980 --> 00:28:56.549
this does not ring true to me at all. It
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almost sounds like he's overcompensating, that Rainier was personally responsible
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for Shannon's disappearance, and he's trying to put all this
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blame on Dwayne. But, spoiler alert, as we get along,
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00:29:07.109 --> 00:29:09.210
we're going to find out some details which show that
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even if Rainier isn't telling the complete truth, maybe there
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00:29:12.650 --> 00:29:14.849
are elements of truth to this story, which is why
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this story is so weird. According to Rainier, the story
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that Dwayne told him is that Shannon had come over
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to his residence to hang out with him on the
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day she went missing, but they wound up getting into
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a heated argument, and Dwayne got rough with her. So
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when Shannon decided to fight back, she started screaming and
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told Dwayne that she would tell Rainier about what happened,
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and made an attempt to get away, but Dwayne's father
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David intervened, pinned Shannon's arms to the ground while Dwayne
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00:29:43.259 --> 00:29:46.240
choked her, and Dwayne told Rainier that his father kept
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telling him to choke harder until he finally strangled her
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to death, and afterwards it was David who helped Dwayne
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bury Shannon's body in the cornfield.
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These guys are disgusting. Like, what is wrong with them?
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00:29:58.569 --> 00:30:02.380
Your dad's there cheering you on, telling you to choke harder.
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And what type of disagreement would you have gotten into
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with Shannon? I, I, I'm having a hard time understanding, like,
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what would have been the impetus for him wrapping his
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hands around her neck? Like, they didn't know each other
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00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.009
that well. Like, what could she have done to anger
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00:30:21.069 --> 00:30:24.470
him to that level? Like, how he would explain that?
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No woman or man can do anything that would ever
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justify wrapping hands around the throat. But I'm just wondering
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00:30:31.730 --> 00:30:35.250
what Dwayne is saying that Shannon did that made him
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so angry.
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00:30:36.819 --> 00:30:38.579
Well, that's the problem with this story, is that it's
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00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.559
only third-hand, so we still can't be certain if it's true.
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00:30:41.660 --> 00:30:44.160
But as we go along, like, Rainier is gonna tell
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these stories about Dwayne that paint him as, like, this
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complete psychopath, even though he was only 18 years old
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00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:51.789
at the time, but he's trying to paint him as
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00:30:51.869 --> 00:30:54.400
someone who might have become one of the worst serial
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00:30:54.420 --> 00:30:57.430
killers of all time if he had not gone missing. So,
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here's what else Rainier said happened. He claimed that after
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Dwayne dug up Shannon's body... He took him to another
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cornfield located two miles away from the spot Shan was
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00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.759
buried and showed him the body of Angie Dickens, the
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other woman who had gotten murdered back in 1986. Dwayne
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00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.599
apparently told him that he and Angie had gone to
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the cornfield in order to fool around, but things got
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00:31:19.420 --> 00:31:22.750
out of hand and he killed her. Because there is
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00:31:22.789 --> 00:31:25.450
so little evidence to go on in Angie's case, I
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00:31:25.490 --> 00:31:28.390
really don't know how much veracity there is to this story,
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but I do know that when her friends dropped her
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00:31:30.930 --> 00:31:33.049
off at the motel, they said that they last saw
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00:31:33.089 --> 00:31:35.809
her speaking with two men in an older model car.
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And you might recall that when Dwayne went missing, the
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one detail they shared is that his bicycle was found
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propped up against a wall, so I don't have any
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00:31:45.890 --> 00:31:48.819
idea if Dwayne drove at that time or even had
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00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:52.329
access to a vehicle, But now that I'm hearing that David,
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00:31:52.809 --> 00:31:55.960
his father, supposedly helped him cover up Shannon's murder, I'm
618
00:31:55.980 --> 00:31:59.799
starting wondering, could these witnesses have seen David and Dwayne
619
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in a car together and they proceeded to kill Angie together?
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00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.460
But then again, we don't even know if the sighting
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00:32:05.500 --> 00:32:07.319
of the two men in the car is significant. It
622
00:32:07.339 --> 00:32:10.880
might be two innocent bystanders who have no, like, involvement
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00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.829
at all in Angie's murder. But because there are so
624
00:32:13.869 --> 00:32:17.369
few details available about the circumstances of how she was killed,
625
00:32:17.490 --> 00:32:20.769
I don't know whether to put any veracity into Raniere's story.
626
00:32:20.869 --> 00:32:23.690
But he's making it sound like this 18-year-old kid has
627
00:32:23.890 --> 00:32:24.819
killed two women.
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00:32:25.819 --> 00:32:27.859
I mean, you weren't kidding when you said that this
629
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:31.559
was an incredibly convoluted case. I have a hard time
630
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:36.869
believing that, like, You said this 18-year-old kid with no
631
00:32:37.069 --> 00:32:42.440
prior incidents involving violence against women that we're aware of.
632
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.720
It doesn't mean that they didn't happen. It just means
633
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:48.819
that we aren't aware. There isn't any evidence to suggest that.
634
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:52.539
We're supposed to believe that he decides to... How many
635
00:32:52.579 --> 00:32:55.440
days apart was Shannon and Angie?
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Less than a month. I think it was something like
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00:32:58.569 --> 00:32:59.109
four weeks.
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00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:04.079
So we're supposed to believe that he escalated? If he
639
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:06.960
chose Shannon as his first victim, then that would have
640
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:11.730
been a higher risk for him because she has a
641
00:33:11.769 --> 00:33:16.369
lot more familial connections and connections with friends, whereas Angie
642
00:33:16.410 --> 00:33:18.690
would have been a lot lower of a risk for
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00:33:18.730 --> 00:33:22.779
him because she didn't have those connections or a permanent residence.
644
00:33:22.859 --> 00:33:25.359
And like you said, she lived more of a transient lifestyle.
645
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:30.119
So the victimology is very different. But also, if he
646
00:33:30.180 --> 00:33:32.700
was an 18-year-old kid who was out there killing women,
647
00:33:32.740 --> 00:33:36.900
then Maybe he hadn't yet discovered his MO and he
648
00:33:36.940 --> 00:33:39.619
was evolving as a killer. But it seems a little
649
00:33:39.660 --> 00:33:43.980
bit far-fetched and it's easy to slot this car with
650
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.680
two men in it and go, okay, yeah, this makes sense.
651
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.230
It's like Dwayne and his dad. But at the end
652
00:33:49.250 --> 00:33:51.230
of the day, we've got no evidence to support that.
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00:33:51.490 --> 00:33:55.630
And eyewitness testimony, we know how problematic that can be.
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00:33:56.190 --> 00:33:59.470
So as convenient as it is, I'm really having a
655
00:33:59.509 --> 00:34:02.750
hard time swallowing this 18-year-old being a killer of two
656
00:34:02.789 --> 00:34:04.230
women within a one-month period.
657
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.039
Yeah, because if you look up Dwayne's photo online on
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00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.730
websites like the Charlie Project, even though he's described as
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00:34:10.789 --> 00:34:13.230
being 18 years old, he looks like he's 12 years
660
00:34:13.369 --> 00:34:15.429
old in the photo. And I don't know if maybe
661
00:34:15.469 --> 00:34:18.670
that's because they didn't have any newer photos that were
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00:34:18.909 --> 00:34:21.469
of him older than the age of 12 or 13.
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00:34:21.469 --> 00:34:23.679
But he looks like a kid. You just can't visualize
664
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:26.599
this guy like killing all these women. But believe it
665
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:30.039
or not, this story gets even crazier because according to Rainier,
666
00:34:30.099 --> 00:34:33.269
while he was conversing with Dwayne in the cornfield, Dwayne
667
00:34:33.369 --> 00:34:36.409
also made mention of killing a quote-unquote girl and a
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00:34:36.530 --> 00:34:40.219
kid from Tennessee. And while he provided no details about
669
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.739
this particular crime, Dwayne apparently pointed towards a ditch that
670
00:34:43.780 --> 00:34:46.519
was near Angie's body and said that the girl and
671
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.480
the kid were buried there. We never do learn any
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00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.960
more details about the so-called crime, but I do know
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00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.159
that when I researched my Trail and Cold episode, I
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00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:56.949
looked through missing persons cases and tried to see if
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00:34:56.969 --> 00:34:59.969
there were any documented cases of like a woman and
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00:35:00.010 --> 00:35:04.360
her child going missing together from Tennessee. right around 1986,
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00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.760
but I couldn't find anything. But theoretically, if Dwayne was
678
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.800
telling the truth, this is four people he's killed, including
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00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:13.869
a child, so, like I said, John Rainier is painting
680
00:35:13.909 --> 00:35:15.690
him up as one of the worst serial killers of
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00:35:15.750 --> 00:35:18.269
all time, who has already murdered four people that we
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00:35:18.449 --> 00:35:20.769
know of by the age of 18.
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And one of them being an actual kid. It seems
684
00:35:24.110 --> 00:35:27.800
improbable to me, given what we know. It just would
685
00:35:27.820 --> 00:35:30.139
take a level of sophistication to be able to get
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00:35:30.179 --> 00:35:32.860
away with that, and it doesn't strike me that an
687
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.960
18-year-old would have that. But again, we also have police
688
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:39.340
investigating who are taking the word of somebody calling about
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00:35:39.389 --> 00:35:41.889
Shannon's disappearance, that she ran off to get married with
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00:35:41.929 --> 00:35:44.789
some random guy, and they're believing it. So if those
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00:35:44.829 --> 00:35:47.070
are the same people that are investigating murders, then I
692
00:35:47.190 --> 00:35:51.110
don't necessarily have the greatest amount of confidence. in their
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00:35:51.170 --> 00:35:54.269
ability to be able to follow the evidence where it
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00:35:54.329 --> 00:35:56.800
leads them. That's not to say that all investigators at
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00:35:56.820 --> 00:35:59.019
the time were bad, just based on what we know,
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00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:03.300
it's a little bit worrisome. And I don't know, it's
697
00:36:03.340 --> 00:36:06.039
like Rainier, are you just like doubling down at this
698
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.429
point and you're trying to make him into the big bad?
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00:36:10.050 --> 00:36:10.750
Do you know what I mean?
700
00:36:10.769 --> 00:36:14.670
Like you're adding these details. It seems very specific, but
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00:36:14.710 --> 00:36:16.940
it's sort of like, oh, well, Maybe he's going to
702
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.730
sound worse if I add that he also killed another
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00:36:19.769 --> 00:36:23.130
woman and a kid. And so it couldn't be me.
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00:36:23.570 --> 00:36:26.809
And then he's not around to defend himself. So I
705
00:36:26.809 --> 00:36:30.929
don't know. This is just one of the weirdest cases.
706
00:36:31.570 --> 00:36:32.500
It is definitely.
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00:36:32.539 --> 00:36:32.820
Yeah.
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00:36:33.300 --> 00:36:36.199
And a spoiler alert. They do like did an excavation
709
00:36:36.219 --> 00:36:38.579
of this area just to try to check out Rainier's story,
710
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:40.920
but they never found a body of a girl and
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00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.349
her kids. So, We still don't know if this story
712
00:36:43.409 --> 00:36:46.329
is true, but I know that we have specific details
713
00:36:46.389 --> 00:36:50.659
for the so-called murders of Angie and Shannon, where Dwayne supposedly,
714
00:36:50.699 --> 00:36:53.480
he said they were fooling around, but then things escalated
715
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:55.659
out of control and he killed them. But it's like,
716
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:57.980
what makes you drive to the point where this 18-year-old
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00:36:58.019 --> 00:37:00.739
decides to murder a young kid? So it just seems
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like an over-the-top detail that Rainier just decided to throw
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in there. So that about brings an end to part
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one of our series about the disappearances of Shannon Green
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and Dwayne Bell. Join us next week as we continue
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our discussion in Part 2.
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Robin, do you want to tell us a little bit
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about the Trail Went Cold Patreon?
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Yes, the Trail Went Cold Patreon has been around for
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three years now, and we offer the standard... bonus features
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like early ad-free episodes, and I also send out stickers
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and sign thank you cards to anyone who signs up
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with us on Patreon. If you join our $ 5 tier,
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Tier 2, we also offer monthly bonus episodes in which
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I talk about cases which are not featured on the
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Trail Went Cold's original feed, so they're exclusive to Patreon.
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And if you join our highest tier, tier three, the
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$ 10 tier, one of the features we offer is a
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audio commentary track over classic episodes of Unsolved Mysteries, where
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you can download an audio file and then boot up
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the original Unsolved Mysteries episode on Amazon Prime or YouTube
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and play it with my audio commentary playing in the background,
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where I just provide trivia and factoids about the cases
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featured in this episode. And incidentally, the very first episode
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that I did a commentary track over was the episode
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featuring this case. So if you want to download a
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commentary track in which I make more smart-ass remarks about
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Jewel Kaler, then be sure to join Tier 3.
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So I want to let you know a little bit
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about the Jewels and Ashley Patreon. So there's early ad-free
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episodes of The Path Went Chilly. We've got our Path
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Went Chilly minis, which are always over an hour. So
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they're not very mini, but they're just too short to
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turn into a series. And we're really enjoying doing those.
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So We hope you'll check out those Patreons. We'll link
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them in the show notes.
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So I want to thank you all for listening and
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any chance you have to share us on social media
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with a friend or to rate and review is greatly appreciated.
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You can email us at thepathwentchili at gmail.com. You can
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reach us on Twitter at thepathwentchili. So until next time,
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be sure to bundle up because cold trails and chilly
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paths call for warm clothing.
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Music by Paul Rich from the podcast Cold Callers Comedy.