Episode #147 Featuring Dr. Anthony Balduzzi! The Fit Father AND MOTHER Project! Conventional vs. Non Conventional, Food as Medicine, Aging

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of your health today. All right, everybody, welcome back to
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the Dillinger Belly Podcast. So as you can see, I'm
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in a different set and area, and it is, let
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me just say, phenomenal where we're at. It is just
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amazingly beautiful. So I am honored and humbled that you
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had me over here to do this in such a
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beautiful place. And anytime anybody has me over, it is,
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it means the world to me. So before I even
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get started, thank you. Anytime you welcome somebody into your place,
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it's a big deal to me, but you are someone
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special to me already. I know we have met recently,
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but the conversation we just had and then learning about
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what you do, what you're working towards, your background, and
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how we share so many similar desires and wants together.
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It's one of those connections that I just value to
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the highest extent. And you know how it is when
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we get involved in these. We talk to a lot
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of people, meet a lot of great people, but then
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there's always certain ones that stick with you. And you're
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already one with me, my friend. So, all right, everybody.
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My guest today, he's a naturopathic physician. He's the founder
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of the Fit Father and Fit Mother Project. And those
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are leading health and fitness programs. He's helped hundreds of
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thousands of people at this point across hundreds of countries.
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He's got dual degrees in nutrition and psychology from the
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University of Pennsylvania and a doctorate in naturopathic medicine. But
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there is so much more to him that I can't
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wait to get into. He has life experiences. and still
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a young age, I will tell you, that are going
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to resonate with everybody out there listening. He has an
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event coming up that we're going to talk about that
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is absolutely phenomenal that I am so excited and honored
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to be a part of. But my friends, welcome Dr.
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Anthony Balduzzi. Dude, thank you. The connection feeling is mutual. Dude,
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I feel like you're a brother. And I mean that.
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There's similarities in the background energy. It's been a privilege
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to explore that and let's have an amazing conversation. Oh,
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we will. One thing I love about you is the
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positive vibe that I got as soon as you pulled up,
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as soon as we met, and really the initial phone
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call was one that I could tell right off the bat,
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all right, I like this guy. It didn't take me long.
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I knew right away. So let's talk a little bit
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about What is Fit Father Project and Fit Mother Project?
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Because this is going to kind of give a baseline
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of why you do what you do, and then we're
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going to get into what kind of brought you to
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this level. Sweet. So I started fitfather.com almost 15 years
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ago now. So it's been the large body of my
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work teaching health and fitness online has been geared towards
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helping busy fathers get healthy. Okay. Why, you ask? Well,
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this is kind of how I got interested in health
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and fitness is growing up, I watched my dad get
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very sick. When I was three years old, I mean,
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in Syracuse, New York, he fell out of bed one
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day and had a seizure. And so we took him
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to the hospital. He got a CT and an MRI.
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And they're like, Peter, you have a brain tumor. Fast growing,
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like we need to get the surgery immediately. And so
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my dad did that. You know, he had me three
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years old, my newborn brother, married to my mom. And
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like he was in his late 30s when he got
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a diagnosis of a brain tumor. And now that I'm
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in that stage having a daughter, I can really just
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like process what that's like, like how devastating that was.
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And he chose to fight. And what fighting looked like,
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and this was the majority of my childhood, was two
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brain surgeries. And this was decades ago. The technology is
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better now than it was. But like they cut his
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skull open, removed a large portion of his brain. He
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lost control over half of his body. I remember he
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used to smile at me with like a one-sided smile
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because that's all he could do. And I remember as
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a kid, I used to just mimic that in the mirror.
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Looking back now, it's just like, that's my dad. And
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so I watched him fight, you know, chemotherapy, radiation. And
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I just got a deep appreciation for health and the
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lack of health. but also like what it's like to
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still show up for those who love amidst the challenges. And,
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you know, eventually the cancer came back and he ended
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up dying when he was 42 years old. I was nine.
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And we just moved to Phoenix, Arizona. In fact, my dad,
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I think he knew he was going to die. He
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was like, you know, the cancer came back the second
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time we moved from Toronto, Canada, where we're living to Phoenix, Arizona.
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We moved here around like May. So hot. My dad's
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in our parents' bedroom with hospice, like he's dying. That night,
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I went down to the basketball court because I was
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like blowing off some steam. I was a basketball player
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just like you. And I got into a little bit
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of a tussle with some kids because I was just
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being like pissed off. And I got pushed somewhere doing
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a layup or something. And I fall and I break
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my arm, right? So I got a broken arm. I
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walk home. I could say, hey, mom, like this. And
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she's got a dying husband in the side room. My
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little brother's somewhere. They take me to the hospital and
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I stay overnight for surgery. And that was the night
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my dad died. She whispered in his ear, Peter, if
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you're going to go, go now. I want you in
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that hospital room with Anthony. And so he let go.
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And so I share that because I definitely now I'll
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say was gifted with a very powerful moment early in
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my life. There were some people have a lot of adversity.
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This was my version of that. And it catapulted me
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into some very deep perspectives. I come to realize very
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early on that health is the foundation of everything we love.
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And through my wounding, I wanted to become strong. And
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so what that looked like was first becoming physically strong.
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And so my mom gave me a pair of my
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dad's old dumbbells. And so I'd hide them under the bed.
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I had a little Walkman with an ironic song now
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looking back. But the song was from Godsmack, I Stand Alone.
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And so I felt this just like kind of like rage.
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And I would just train at night. I would train.
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in the process of training, I started to feel more empowered.
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I realized I could take all this angst and I
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could channel it into something productive. And I started to
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get these little Popeye biceps in like eighth grade, ninth grade.
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And then I got really just addicted to bodybuilding and fitness.
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And so at the time it was, it was bodybuilding, right?
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So there's muscle magazines. So I started like looking into
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all the different kinds of supplements and doing the training programs.
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Like These were like, you know, grown men taking steroids,
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giving advice, but I still made a lot of progress,
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you know, just from sheer will. And I just fell
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in love with fitness. And when you get good at
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something from an early age, you can really like build
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on that momentum, right? You know this as well. Like
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you get good at fitness and then people are like, oh, hey,
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train me. Hey, teach me. And I was a voracious
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reader about all things nutrition and exercise. I began competing
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in bodybuilding. In fact, I picked my university because I
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went to my college counselor and I was like, what
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do you think the best school that I can get into? Um,
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and they gave me a list of them and I
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checked out all the gyms at all of them. And
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so we went to the university of Pennsylvania and they
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had this little poster up there that said, Mr. Penn,
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they had a bodybuilding show at that school. And I
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told my mom, I want to win that bodybuilding show
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one day. And I ended up doing it. And so
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I got into fitness through my dad's passing. And so in,
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when I really had concretized a lot of this information,
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I wanted to help guys like my dad. Probably didn't
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have cancer, but it could have been some metabolic issue,
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but a lot of guys feel like too busy. Too
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much stress and pressure to be able to do the
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foundational things that keep you healthy. And so Fit Father
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was born. Helped tens of thousands of guys in that program.
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Fit Mother spun out of that. And so the body
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of my work has been helping families and particularly parents
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get healthy. Because I do believe when we look at society,
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you know, like healthy families can create healthy micro environments, right?
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It's like fractal. It's just like cells. Like a healthy
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cell has healthy cytokines that creates a healthy environment. And
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so I realized that there's a lot of leverage there.
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And also I have a soft spot because of my
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own father. And now being a dad now, it's like everything.
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It's like I believe in generational health. How do we
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embody this stuff? Pass it on to our kids. And
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so it's a part of my service. And so I
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have this online health and fitness component with Fit Father.
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We have online programs, nutrition, exercise programs for muscle building
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and fat loss, some supplements. And it's really just a
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community of people who want to like be better together
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and overcome the stresses and pressures. And then I have
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this whole world of my own healing journey that goes
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far beyond the business side of it. You know, physical healing, mental,
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emotional healing. I'm into naturopathic medicine, the frontiers of like
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meditation and longevity, all the stuff that I know you
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enjoy as well. And so, yeah, that's like me, Anthony,
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as like doctor. And above all, I think, you know,
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a father, a follower of Christ, a man who loves
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a good outdoor adventure. And yeah, like I love my life.
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I've got a good question for you, but I got
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to ask you something first. So your criteria for picking
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a school... Was what the gym was like. For sure.
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I love it. Solid. I love it. Solid gym. I
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love it. Hot Truck Fitness, University of Pennsylvania. Wow. Great.
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I loved it. Yeah. It's amazing. Ivy League school, right?
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Ivy League school. Yeah. And they had a sweet gym.
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They had a sweet gym. I love that. Okay. So
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when we're talking about fundamentally what you're doing. Yeah. This
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is one of the things that I have really tried
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to stress to my own kids and to anybody younger generation,
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but to parents in general, a lot of the excuses
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that I always hear is, well, I got to feed
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the kids this, so I'm going to go ahead and
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eat this and do this. And my argument is, and
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I want to hear what your thought is and what
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you teach is one why are you feeding them that
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crab and two what do you mean you have to
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eat what you're giving them since when and why you
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can't do two things at once like make them whatever
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they need and make yourself something accountability we talked about
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earlier Do you talk about that? And is that one
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of the things that you stress? Because to me, that
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seems to be one of the bigger problems. And you're
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setting the example for the kids. For sure. Right? First,
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I'll speak as a dad to a young daughter. Man,
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I just like, I know too much. And what I
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mean by that is like, I just know how the
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food that I give her, giving her body and her cells,
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things that they need to thrive, is one way of
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me loving her to the greatest extent to help her express, right?
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And so like, she's still a kid. I make mac
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and cheese for her, but I make a healthy version
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of that. And it kicks ass. Like we got nutritional
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yeast in there. It's like the right kinds of cheeses
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and stuff like that. And it's like helps her thrive.
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And so I've developed her core nutrition system, fruit, salmon,
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mac and cheese, eggs, turkey. You know, she likes having
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her cucumber. So like There's a way you've got to
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build a system. And ideally you get your kids instilled
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in that. But like, let's say there's a scenario where
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that's not the case. The kids eat, you know, different
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kinds of foods, like personal integrity and accountability needs to
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be at the core of what you're doing. And so
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you need to understand that you probably just don't have
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that amount of leeway as what your kids are eating
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based on your age, your metabolism and your goals. And
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so we're going to need to find some kind of
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system to overcome like that scenario. And one other thing
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I'll say too is, okay, let's say dinner is what
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you're eating with the family and it's unhealthier food. you
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still have one or two other meals throughout the day
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to exert a lot of power and structure. And so
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one thing that I teach fundamentally to dads is there's
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like two types of meals you want to have. One,
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you want to have your go-to meals. You only need
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a pocket of a couple of these. These are plays
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that you run all the time. And so for your
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first morning meal, go-to meals, it could be like eggs
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and avocado, eggs and fruit. It could be some kind
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of healthy smoothie recipe. If you overnight oatmeal with some
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kind of healthy stuff, like whatever it ends up being
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for you, run those plays. And so it's not an
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excuse to eat unhealthy throughout the entire day just because
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your family is eating a particular way at night. I
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also think there's gradual shifts that you can make with
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your family where let's say what is served is maybe
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some chicken and some vegetables and then some other kind
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of thing that your kid might have as a way
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to just like massage all that to make it work
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and practical, right? Um, you know, like meal prep and
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simple things like this goes a long way. Like pave
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the path to the success by preparing a lot of
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your food, because I get it. Like as a dad,
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you're holding a lot. And mom too, it's easy to
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be reactive. You got to have a good system. So
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I'm a systems guy. Yeah. If really what I do
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with Fit Father and Fit Mother is I help people
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identify their healthy, like foods that are a part of their,
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their journey. Like those key things, build those into go-to meals,
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create nutrition systems and stay accountable over a long haul.
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So that's like one element of nutrition. How do we
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make it simple and sustainable? Eat like, and I'm not like,
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I don't prescribe a diet for people. Look, there's so
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many different kinds of diets. Have I had to describe
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it though? I help people eat whole foods. They eat
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lower carb naturally, which tends to work good for people.
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they're eating a lot of healthy fats, a lot of protein,
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a lot of micronutrient dense foods. And we find a
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way to move those into meals where you don't need
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to think a lot about it. Yeah. And that's the key, too.
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And we talked about this prior as falling into these
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traps about the foods and the way that there's it's
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got to be keto. It's got to be carnivore. It's
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got to be this. It's got to be Mediterranean. No,
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it needs to be what is needed by said person.
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And I think explaining that to people, I always fall
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into the lower carb thing, too. But when I train crazy.
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You got to have a little bit, otherwise you're depleting
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and you're actually doing yourself a disservice. But it's different
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for everybody. But I love what you said. You care
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about your daughter. So you got to put the right
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kind of foods in front of her. Otherwise, you're starting
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her off on the wrong foot and you're actually making
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her unhealthy. You're robbing from her food. Yes. If you
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teach people To make things, like you said, mac and cheese,
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you could make anything healthy. Yeah. You absolutely, I mean,
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eliminate the processed things and learn how to make things healthy. Yeah,
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I get there's an organic-based grain on there. I throw
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nutritional yeast in there. I throw some, like, high-quality grass-fed
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ghee or clarified butter. Like, when you look at that
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thing in stats, if we want to go that technical,
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it's loaded with B vitamins, short-chain fatty acids. She's got
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the carbs that she needs. It's got tons of protein
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in it, and she loves it. And she's grown up
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with that. So like that's a systems approach. I love that.
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So it's like you just got to get a little creative.
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You got to train the parents to train the kids. Right. Yeah.
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I love that. Do you find that the kids enjoy
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doing that with their parents? Because what I've always found,
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and you tell me because you work with more kids
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than I do and families, the kids enjoy that. They
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love to do those kinds of things with their parents,
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see the different ways to do things, and then share
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it with the parents. I'll say it's probably one of
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the most rewarding things I hear from people on a
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fitness journey is it does hit some kind of critical
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mass where they've done enough that if they have older kids,
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their kids really recognize them like dad or mom respect.
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I see what you're doing. And like, I I'm really inspired.
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I'm really proud of you. And I'd love to do
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the same. And if you have young kids too, man,
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anything can give you evolved in the movement. And it'd
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be just training becomes a part of like what it's
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like in your family values. Fundamentals. It's like culture is
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the environment of your family in terms of your virtues
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and your values. And I couldn't think of if we
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were going to pick five values for a family, if
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health is not one of those five and like shared
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movement is not one of those five, man, you're like
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missing one of the biggest things. We're humans. We have bodies.
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Our bodies have the capacity to be strong. We can
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connect over our bodies. And so for a lot of dads,
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they're very busy. They want to spend more time with
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their kids. They get them training with them. And the
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kinds of movements that we have people do are fundamental movements.
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We use dumbbells and kettlebells and bands and body weight,
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and we have them squat and press overhead and pull
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things and row and move and twist, just like really
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fun core movements. And you can incorporate your family. It's
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wonderful at any age. And it's really amazing to see
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the shifts that happen with the kids. Do you find,
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and I'm pretty sure this is a yes, but I
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want to hear from you, Do you find that when
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people come to you and they start working with you,
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that they develop a much like deeper, closer relationship with
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their kids and their families and it draws them into
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a totally different thing that they may not even have
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been expecting? Yes. Yes. On a couple levels. One, I
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think you're able to interface with your kids through the
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lens of shared values, right? You're also able to interface
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with your kids through like movement. like you can, you
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can potentially move together, which is a very human thing
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to do. If we've got like very tribal ancestral, like
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we're moving together where we're meant to be moving together,
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but also like you're, you're taking this long-term mindset of
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investing in your health and your future. And you're wanting
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that for your kids as well. It's amazing. And when
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you get your body healthy, your mind gets healthier. You
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typically become less reactive. You typically become a little more grateful.
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You become a little more resilient. So the times where
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you're feeling off Or like a little depressed or a
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little snappy and angry. Like that just doesn't happen quite
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as much. And I also think that's like you can't,
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the whole phrase, you can't bring a horse to water
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or drag a horse to water. But I love the
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idea of like your healthy behaviors end up like planting
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you as a lighthouse for your family. And you stand
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strong in what you know is good for you. And
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like that goodness and that virtue wins over time. You
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just keep on spinning your light and spinning your light.
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And like, yeah, I mean, people are going to see it.
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They can't not see it. It's one of the most
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subtly like valuable things and service things you can do
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to your entire extended family is by displaying your integrity,
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by living the healthiest life that you can and getting
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yourself healthy. It's amazing. And that has a ripple effect
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that's just like goes on for forever. Like imagine not
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just being the fit dad, potentially the fit grandpa. Yeah. Right.
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You know, we have those in our family, maybe even
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a fit great grandparent. The longevity that you get out
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of that as well. the cognitive sharpness. And there's many
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ways to think about it, the values and the virtues
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that you will gain in life experience. But also let's
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look at the pain. Many of us have had parents
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when you look into the future and they're falling off
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the rails. Like they have like debilitating orthopedic conditions, you know,
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heart's not healthy. They're taking medications. Mind is not nearly
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as sharp. So you can also look out and be like, dang,
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I'm working really hard right now to provide for my
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family and to be there with them. What do I
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want to feel like when I'm 20, 30 years from now?
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And so Like looking into the future, we're making those
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choices today. And it's like what I have seen through
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Fit Father that's so freaking amazing is there are people
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in their 60s that have been unhealthy for like three
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or four decades. They can turn things around and extend
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their life by like a decade. Like it's not too late.
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And that's the coolest thing. The human body is immensely resilient.
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We live in a super toxic world on many ways,
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like whether it's the digital stuff or even the environmental toxins.
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Our bodies can hold this crap for a long time
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and still keep on going. When you clean up, the
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body's regenerative capacity is incredible. Oh, yeah. This is why
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I love the kind of medicine I practice, yeah. Well,
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and the healthier the people, the happier the people, which
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means that they're going to be able to do a
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lot more together and have a more successful relationship with
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each other. That makes you healthier, too. But if you're
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eating like crap, if you're not training, you're not working out,
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Kids see that, man. They know their kids are so
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receptive and they know what negative energy is around them.
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So you're bringing positive energy at the end. You know,
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something that you and I share is this deep passion
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for translating health into leadership. Yeah. Right. For you, it's
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like stewardship of your mission to want people, as many
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people as possible to hear your message of longevity and
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goodness and God and these things. It's like. that message
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has as much power as your full package has. And
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part of that package is your physical body, which is
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completely tied to how healthy your cells are, the amount
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of energy you have, which is completely tied to how
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much muscle you maintain, which is a byproduct of your training.
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So it's all integrity. I know, it's like, who am
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I going to follow? I'm going to follow the person
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that just oozes virtue and ideally is very physically strong
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as well. Like they're putting in the work. And so
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you want to have more influence in your family. You
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want to have a more intimate relationship with your partner,
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your spouse, like all of these things get enhanced by
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physical health. And also just think about people like my dad,
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people like my dad, who like stuff does go wrong
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and to be grateful that you have the chance still
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to do even better. And then the final thing I'll add,
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and I hope we get to this at some point
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is for me, like how I treat my physical body
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is directly proportional to how close I feel to God.
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And it's like the state of my system and my
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level of connection is completely contingent upon how I live
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and how I practice and what it is. And there
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are periods of time when I'm on fire, on fire
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with what I'll call like the Holy Spirit, with energy,
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with alignment. And then I realize the kinds of things
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that cause some subtle shifts to that. And I'm always
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realigning and like, what more can I experience as a
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byproduct of great physical health? That just made me think of,
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we don't often think enough. I don't think, I know
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I don't now that you just said that. When you
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do damaging things to yourself, bad habits, don't take care
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of yourself. That's kind of a direct shot at God
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for The gift that he gave you as your temple
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and you're not taking care of it. It's kind of like, yeah,
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I don't care. You gave me this wonderful gift and
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I don't care. I mean, that just hit me like
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a ton of bricks right now that you're talking about that,
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that that may be something when we're doing something we
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know isn't right that we need to think about. I
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love that. That's enough to make you want to do better, right?
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So that was a great point that you just made.
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There's a lot to wrap your head around around that.
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Just remember, you're taking a gift that you were given
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and you're mistreating it. And then what you receive is
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suffering and feedback. Yep. And so God loves you in
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the sense that you're going to get the suffering and
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the feedback to invite you into some degree of course correction.
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That's right. Cool. That's like, it's all a giant feedback loop.
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And I think there is a, there's this interesting through
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line that I see through like natural philosophy, all the
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stuff we're learning from the longevity space of like a
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way of living that is like deeply connected, a regulated
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nervous system that is like relaxed and with great blood
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flow that's oxygenated, with cells and mitochondria that have all
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the micronutrients to create this ATP through this amazing fire
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reaction that happens with us, with connection to the sun
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and the circadian rhythm, there's this through line of, I
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feel like it's just like a healthy, vibrant, connected body
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and mind, and it's contagious. It is contagious. This is
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why people like you and me spend our time sharing this,
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because it feels so true and we want more people
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to experience it. And one person like you, dude, You
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might even be like a third through your life. Who knows?
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You could be like going for a long time. It's
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not about how long you live, but you're just going
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to continuously shine that light. I'm doing the same. I
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love it. Yeah, it's about adding quality years to your life.
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It's not just about living as long as you can.
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It's about living as quality as you can, right? Okay,
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so I would like you to explain something. So naturopathic
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teaching as opposed to more conventional teaching. Why did you
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choose to go that route? What's the difference? What are
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the main differences? And then maybe what are some of
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the similarities or are there any? Yeah. I mean, everything
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is completely converging right now in the medical landscape. So,
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you know, medical doctors, MDs, like largely trained over the
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last couple of hundred years in what is called allopathic medicine. Basically,
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it's done a really great job at looking at the
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body in more reduced things. You have a cardiologist, you
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have a nephrologist, you have, you know, different kinds of
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specialists for different organ systems. And we've studied it. And
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we've dissected it. And then we have this whole idea
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of pharmacology is that we can find substances that have
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very specific functions to counteract imbalances in the body. And
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so it's OK, you have elevated lipids in your blood.
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A cardiologist will see this and then say, OK, here
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is something we can give you we know has a
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counterbalancing effect on this one variable. So it's kind of
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like a reductionistic philosophy that led to a lot of
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great study and breakthrough. But now we're like all woken
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up to be like, oh God, this is a completely
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interconnected system. Gut, brain, heart axis, immune system, nervous system,
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all playing together. Naturopathic medicine is kind of like understood
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this for a long period of time that you're treating
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a whole person. And so there's like a completely integrated
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systems approach, which is not just like the body systems themselves,
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but also the mental emotional aspect too, right? So it's
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like when you go to a naturopathic physician's intake, they're
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looking at your relationships. They're looking at your stress level.
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your grief, what you're processing, like where you came from,
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your story, your identity, how that shows up. If you
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look at some of the connections between adverse childhood experiences
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and autoimmune diseases, they're super strong, super strong. These kind
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of traumas can translate through the nervous system and the
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immune system into expressions of different kind of imbalances. So
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the naturopathic approach is that there's a series of tenants there.
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And like, I'll give you a couple of my favorite ones.
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Like one, treat the whole person. Two, the belief that
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the body has an inherent healing mechanism. In naturopathic philosophy,
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it's called the vice. And the goal of the physician
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is to stimulate the vice, the vital force of the body.
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So it's a little different than maybe like what I
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think is like a little egoic in modern medicine, where
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it's like, let me like, I'm doctor, I know what's up.
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I know your problem. Here's your diagnosis, your label. And
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here's the thing that I recommend you take to fix that.
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And then come back and see me and we'll assess
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that while you're doing. The naturopathic physician's philosophy is like,
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let me try to understand you to the best that
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I can through a really good relationship and translation process. Now,
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let me help you do things to help stimulate your
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vital force to heal, which sometimes is adding things in,
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but a lot of times it's taking things away. How
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do we remove obstacles to cure? Could be a stressful job.
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It could be something that is a toxin in your
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physical system, emotional system. It could be that you're deficient
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in something because of some genetic factor and we need
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to add something in. And so It's really stimulating the body.
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And so what I love, it's a fundamentally empowering concept.
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It's like, if you believe that you can heal and
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now we need to just support the healing, great. Okay,
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so if you want to support the body in healing,
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what do you need? Well, you need great circulation. You
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need this vital force of blood to be moving oxygen
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and nutrients throughout your body. How do we create good circulation? Boom,
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we have ways to support that nutritionally, movement, nervous system regulation. Okay,
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we need great gut health because anything you're putting in
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needs to be assimilated. This whole tube that's tied to
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Your ability to process food and eliminate waste needs to
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be optimized. So a lot of naturopathic philosophy is looking
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at what are the among theories, the different systems like
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digestive system, sweating system, urine system, and how is fluid
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moving through the body. So there's a really cool blend of,
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I guess, some more like Eastern thinking with Western thinking.
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And here's the cool thing. It is all converging with
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various labels right now. I know. Like functional medicine, you know,
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whatever you want to call it. It's like it's converging now.
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And it's super cool because I'm really excited and actually
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very optimistic about the field. There are so many medical
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doctors who are great experts now who got and went,
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gotten like holistic training. There's now so much more data
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that's pegging to a lot of natural philosophies that are working.
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And we're also seeing some stuff that may not work
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that's been from folklore that we know is like a
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little bit debunked, which is really wonderful too. And so
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we're pinning this whole field is kind of converging together.
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And maybe my favorite part of all is that doctors
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have gotten like dethroned in the modern landscape as like
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some arbiters of universal truth because they went to the
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textbooks and they went to the school. And now it's
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like everyone, it's like kind of democratic. If you want
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to learn something, it is out there. The library of YouTube,
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the books, the journals, using AI now, you can like really,
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I know people who have no degrees behind their name
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that know the most about health. And then the final
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thing I'll say is like, really, I think doctor, the
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word docere means teacher. And so if you're going to
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follow the path of profession of a doctor, you need
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to be a teacher. And the teacher that you want
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to do is it requires embodiment, not just knowledge. And
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so I want to be a healthy doctor. I want
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to like really practice and understand this in my body
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because then I can really help people. I don't ever,
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ever like take shots or want to take away from anybody,
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especially somebody that paid a lot of money to go
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to school. I don't ever want to do that and
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I'm not going to do it, but I do speak
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in fact, relative, figurative, all of it. And I have
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been privy, which you certainly are, to know what is
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being taught when people go to medical school and what's not.
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And it's severely, severely lacking. And that's the fact. And
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then people that will want to say, well, is so-and-so
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a doctor? Well, maybe, maybe not. But what kind of
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hands-on experience do they have? And what is one being taught?
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And what is one actually learning from being in the
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trenches and working with people every single day and seeing
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what's actually happening? You just made a point. Ask yourself
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this question if you're on the fence. When you go
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to your general practitioner, are they asking you how your
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sleep is? What kind of stress you're under? Or are
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they taking five minutes, taking your blood pressure, checking your
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throat maybe with a culture, and asking you a couple
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basic questions and telling you, well, that's going around, so
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here you go. I understand that it's probably more expensive,
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but it's more hands-on. It's more intricate. It's like going
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to a public university or private one. Yes. Right? So
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you're getting this one-on-one attention. I guess I would hope
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and pray that people are starting to open their eyes,
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which I think they are, more so instead of saying, oh,
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everybody's crazy and they don't know what they're talking about, to, wow,
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maybe this person's on to something. And what you said,
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I've noticed this too, more like regular doctors, I don't
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even like to call them regular because I think what
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we call conventional is non-conventional. I want your thoughts on that.
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So I think they're opening their eyes more, at least
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some of them are. But let me ask you this.
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I argue that conventional medicine is actually non-conventional because you're
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normally taking something natural and then altering it and putting
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all kinds of crap in it or whatever. And same
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with the medicine practice. Do you agree with that? Yeah, well,
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I think if we look at some of the history,
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it's kind of clear, like a lot of things... that
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have good roots have gotten co-opted by finance and profiteering.
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And I think that there was the idea that when
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we really realized we can isolate drugs like Bayer and
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we have aspirin and then we build this whole industry
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on wanting to give people pills and have like a
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sick care. And you have insurance that comes in here.
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We've all heard the same thing. And it's like insurance
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gives doctors reimbursements. You can have short time. You can
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never get to root cause of people. And then the
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whole system perpetuates itself. It's certainly broken. The cool thing, though,
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is like the fundamentals to fix your health and become
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a great advocate for yourself. You know, food, movement, water, light,
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healthy relationships, nervous system regulation practices like breathing and forgiveness.
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Like these are all directly accessible to us right now.
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And there's so much great nutrition education. I love seeing
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stories on YouTube of people in the comments being like, man,
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I changed my diet. I got off all my medication,
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lost 100 pounds. That's so accessible for us right now,
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and it's here. And so, yeah, I like to say, yes,
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the system has issues. And what I love, and this
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is what me as a Christian, the truth wins. Like,
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and so you just stand on your business, which I
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think when it comes to this body, there's a certain
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set of inputs that lead to like wellbeing. And when
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it comes to the mind, there's a certain set of
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orientations that leads to peace and like love. So it's
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like that ultimately is going to happen because suffering is
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going to feed back into that. How true is food
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is medicine? How true is that concept? Well, here's the,
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here's the interesting thing. I think it was like, if
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we were juggling these balls and I would talk from
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the fit followers, there's a couple of things to think about, right?
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You have sleep and restoration. You need that one. You
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have Movement and exercise, you need that one. You need food,
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you have this one. I'll say it's like food is
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a unique one. And we'll put a table for a
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second that the things that you put in kind of
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beneficial or detrimental. Yeah. Right. And so that's the tricky part, right?
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You can eat stuff that could like really mess you up.
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Like maybe you have an intolerance to it. Maybe it's
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like wheat that's sprayed with glyphosate. Maybe it's like super inflammatory,
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you know, like a rancid seed oil of some sort.
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Maybe it's sugar that totally dysregulates your system. Artificial colorings
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and additives. So food's unique because like you can put
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something in there that makes it harder for your body.
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That would be better if you like put nothing in there, right?
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Where also food can be massively healing when you're eating
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like the right kinds of foods and it gives you nutrition.
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I'm also excited about the frontier of personalized nutrition, which
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comes down to like figuring out what works for you
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through just awareness. like, what do I eat that makes
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my gut feel great? What do I eat that helps
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me feel light and I can build muscle and feel energy?
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But also like looking at genetics and metabolomics and some
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of these tests now that can really like give you
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some great insight into what's right for you. So like
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a super healthy friend who's doing all the things right,
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like even a practitioner teaches a ton of people like
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he finally did some deeper genetic testing and looked at
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he has a he has a defect in his vitamin
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D receptor. So like, No matter how much like sun
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he was getting, he wasn't reaching optimal levels. He needs
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like more extreme supplementation. He had some methylation defects. He
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fixed that in a little targeted way. And so I
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just share that this like science aspect of nutrition is, is,
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is really interesting and powerful. And then exercises is, is,
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is there's a lot there. Like we know that maintaining
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muscle is huge. Oh yeah. But, but like, I want
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to expand this and I think this is a conversation.
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I want to shout out the guy who's really like
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promoting this stuff. The YouTube channel is I am longevity.
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I got to think of like his name. Um, but
705
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overall he's like, he's in his sixties and he's really
706
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:03.819
promoting the idea that as we age to age, well,
707
00:33:04.220 --> 00:33:06.079
it's not just about amount of muscle mass we have,
708
00:33:06.140 --> 00:33:08.680
but how explosive our nervous system can be. And then
709
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we really need to be training fast, explosive movements. So
710
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:13.640
I want everyone listening to this. It's like to really
711
00:33:13.660 --> 00:33:16.019
look into that. Like it's something like if you did sprints,
712
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.069
like once a week to the best of your capacity
713
00:33:18.109 --> 00:33:20.549
and build up to that, or even some reflex training,
714
00:33:20.589 --> 00:33:23.150
that's like really key for your longevity. Yeah. And so
715
00:33:23.410 --> 00:33:25.049
as you get deeper in your health journey at first,
716
00:33:25.089 --> 00:33:28.890
it's like, okay, eat healthier. reduce visceral fat, walk and
717
00:33:28.950 --> 00:33:31.789
move more and accumulate movement. Great. And then you have
718
00:33:31.809 --> 00:33:34.269
a more advanced layer of, okay, let's do some resistance
719
00:33:34.309 --> 00:33:36.769
training to really build and maintain that muscle mass and
720
00:33:36.789 --> 00:33:40.509
keep the hormonal building blocks in place with whatever way
721
00:33:40.549 --> 00:33:45.069
is appropriate for somebody. Then there's other ways to like speed, balance, coordination,
722
00:33:45.109 --> 00:33:46.990
and other things you can train. So your body can
723
00:33:47.009 --> 00:33:49.730
become a playground. This can become a game. You can
724
00:33:49.750 --> 00:33:51.650
always ask yourself like, how good can I be at
725
00:33:51.690 --> 00:33:53.910
this age? And that's a moving target. But like, I
726
00:33:53.950 --> 00:33:55.619
know I'm super inspired by if you go to a
727
00:33:55.710 --> 00:33:58.740
park and you see A 70-year-old doing some pull-up and
728
00:33:58.779 --> 00:34:02.940
jogging around, you're like, holy crap. Why is that so compelling? Yeah.
729
00:34:03.180 --> 00:34:06.039
It is. It used to be something that would just
730
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:10.260
almost be irrational to even see. Now it's becoming more prevalent.
731
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:13.820
You're seeing more guys and women, too, in their 60s
732
00:34:13.900 --> 00:34:16.579
and 70s that you're like, whoa, they're really that old
733
00:34:16.659 --> 00:34:19.679
and they're able to do that? Yeah. What about VO2 max?
734
00:34:20.099 --> 00:34:23.639
Because I've found that now over time, we're starting to
735
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.219
really understand how vital that is to long-term health. Huge.
736
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Talk about that a little bit and explain why. And
737
00:34:29.940 --> 00:34:32.170
what is it? Well, yeah, I think it's like the
738
00:34:32.269 --> 00:34:35.210
maximum amount of oxygen that you can consume when you're
739
00:34:35.250 --> 00:34:38.369
in high-intensity exercise settings. So the higher VO2 max, the
740
00:34:38.409 --> 00:34:41.630
higher capacity that your heart engine basically has to run
741
00:34:41.710 --> 00:34:44.239
a higher heart rate and have more oxygen consumption. So
742
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.199
it's like you want a high VO2 max. The only
743
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:48.920
way to train that really well, in my opinion, experience
744
00:34:48.980 --> 00:34:51.800
is doing like higher intensity interval training a couple times,
745
00:34:51.820 --> 00:34:54.300
like get that heart rate up, work and work these things,
746
00:34:54.860 --> 00:34:57.960
move up your lactate threshold, like do some higher intensity exercise.
747
00:34:57.980 --> 00:35:00.260
And I think walking is great as a foundation, but
748
00:35:00.619 --> 00:35:03.969
doing some sprint training, doing some type of Metabolic circuit
749
00:35:03.989 --> 00:35:06.889
training that we're doing is key for high VO2 max. Yeah.
750
00:35:07.110 --> 00:35:09.039
What are you doing for your VO2 max training? Well,
751
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:12.019
I over-train really bad, so I don't follow what I do.
752
00:35:13.340 --> 00:35:16.980
Every single day, I walk between four and five miles
753
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.880
non-training days. I do five. Then I do ellipticals for
754
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:24.300
85 minutes. I have a Carol bike. I have one
755
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:25.849
of those too. Yeah, that's an example of a great
756
00:35:25.889 --> 00:35:29.550
way to train your VO2 max. That re-hit training 20-minute,
757
00:35:29.570 --> 00:35:32.150
20-second sprint. It's as good as it gets. Yeah. Yeah.
758
00:35:32.590 --> 00:35:36.789
I used to, because of basketball, and I'd actually go
759
00:35:36.849 --> 00:35:39.570
do line drills, not at basketball. Yes, I know that
760
00:35:39.590 --> 00:35:42.989
sounds crazy, but those are good sprint type of things.
761
00:35:43.050 --> 00:35:46.610
Or even when I moved several times, I'd go find
762
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a football field or a track and do those 40,
763
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50-yard sprints or on a treadmill. What I would generally
764
00:35:52.900 --> 00:35:56.079
do is... I'd go a little incline and do like
765
00:35:56.079 --> 00:36:00.260
40 second heart sprint and then walk about 30, 40
766
00:36:00.260 --> 00:36:03.659
seconds and do about five of those. Perfect. Yeah. I
767
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:05.960
think getting your heart rate up like high like that
768
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.280
with some high intensity effort and whatever mode that you
769
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:11.360
do it once a week, but ideally two to three.
770
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But if you want to move for longevity once a week,
771
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get your heart rate up and over time improve it.
772
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:16.559
And then like looking at that, we're looking at the
773
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:19.940
overall circulatory system, right? So now you're getting into like, oh,
774
00:36:19.969 --> 00:36:22.750
how do we keep good vascular health? Okay. So now
775
00:36:22.789 --> 00:36:25.969
we need in anti-inflammatory environment in the body. We want
776
00:36:25.989 --> 00:36:28.340
a good amount of polyphenols. We want to make sure
777
00:36:28.460 --> 00:36:31.280
that we're have like optimum vitamin D3K2 levels. We want
778
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.619
to optimize nitric oxide. And so like some practical things
779
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:38.530
from there is like, I've really gotten into arugula salads
780
00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:42.289
with extra high polyphenol, extra virgin olive oil. Maybe I'm
781
00:36:42.329 --> 00:36:44.889
just like expressing my inner Italian dude, but like getting
782
00:36:44.929 --> 00:36:47.710
a nitrate source with some polyphenols on there is like,
783
00:36:48.050 --> 00:36:50.840
that's like, that's a hacky thing to say on a podcast,
784
00:36:50.860 --> 00:36:53.360
but like, Dude, that's fundamental to my health routine. It's
785
00:36:53.380 --> 00:36:56.980
like EVOO for the healthy fats and the polyphenols, nitrate
786
00:36:57.019 --> 00:37:00.119
source in the arugula. All you like oxalate people, it's
787
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.550
a low oxalate green and throw some protein on there
788
00:37:02.570 --> 00:37:05.010
that you want. It's like, that's killer. And so if
789
00:37:05.030 --> 00:37:06.469
you figure out a couple of these things that are
790
00:37:06.489 --> 00:37:09.829
like high yield platform type meals, like you're in good shape.
791
00:37:10.110 --> 00:37:12.929
Like I also think making a healthy functional drink is
792
00:37:12.969 --> 00:37:14.869
really good. Like most people like to have a nice
793
00:37:14.929 --> 00:37:16.769
drink in the morning. It's like, it could be your
794
00:37:16.789 --> 00:37:19.050
cup of joe. Like where I've settled on for me,
795
00:37:19.900 --> 00:37:21.800
He's like, I have this morning cacao drink. I get
796
00:37:21.820 --> 00:37:25.769
like ceremonial grade cacao, which has really potent polyphenols, like
797
00:37:25.809 --> 00:37:29.409
different kinds, like epicatechin. There's even research to taking epicatechin
798
00:37:29.449 --> 00:37:33.630
like post-workout, like helps accentuate the anabolic response after exercise.
799
00:37:33.969 --> 00:37:37.610
Great polyphenol source of that. I'll throw some ghee in
800
00:37:37.670 --> 00:37:40.050
there because you get these C15 fats found in the ghee.
801
00:37:40.489 --> 00:37:43.599
MCT oil in there, a little lion's mane mushroom. And,
802
00:37:43.699 --> 00:37:45.159
you know, blend this thing up. So I get like
803
00:37:45.179 --> 00:37:47.199
a great drink every day. So I think these anchors
804
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:50.340
are key. If you can find some like superfood style
805
00:37:50.449 --> 00:37:52.800
anchors that you actually legit enjoy and those become food
806
00:37:52.900 --> 00:37:55.739
allies for you, that's a part of your overall system.
807
00:37:55.940 --> 00:37:58.719
And those good anchors take the space of the BS
808
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:02.670
stuff that could fill the vacuum otherwise. I started sautéing
809
00:38:02.710 --> 00:38:06.639
arugula every day in my meals and I– I don't
810
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.480
fear that oxalates in spinach because you got to eat
811
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a lot. I agree. Raw spinach. I cook it and everything.
812
00:38:12.820 --> 00:38:15.019
I think there's a fine line of fear that gets
813
00:38:15.059 --> 00:38:18.039
put into people because there's so much value in spinach. Yeah,
814
00:38:18.099 --> 00:38:20.599
I agree. I think that too is one of the
815
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.739
things that I find to be problematic is there's a
816
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:25.780
lot of guys I actually respect a lot that I
817
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.860
hold in high regard, but they spend the amount of
818
00:38:29.139 --> 00:38:31.940
majority of their time making videos and scaring people and
819
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:33.699
telling them they can't do this and this and this.
820
00:38:33.739 --> 00:38:36.079
And then they make it to where, what can I do?
821
00:38:36.610 --> 00:38:39.019
That's it. You see the comment section of some top
822
00:38:39.059 --> 00:38:41.820
influencer videos. People are just like, I'm confused. They're done.
823
00:38:41.860 --> 00:38:45.619
What do I even eat? Yeah. Yeah. That's disempowering. It is.
824
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:50.440
That's contracted energy. It is actually a hindrance. It's not helpful.
825
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:54.179
Spending your entire day making videos on how we should
826
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:57.809
be scared of leaving our house is not helpful. It's not.
827
00:38:57.869 --> 00:39:01.030
So I want to try to, and I see that
828
00:39:01.070 --> 00:39:04.010
you do this too, is teach people. Yeah, maybe just
829
00:39:04.090 --> 00:39:06.449
temper this a little bit. Get a little bit of this,
830
00:39:06.510 --> 00:39:09.030
get a little bit of that. Don't have a pound
831
00:39:09.070 --> 00:39:10.650
of it. And this is how you're going to get
832
00:39:10.670 --> 00:39:12.659
the benefit from it. For sure, for sure. And there's
833
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:14.300
a wide variety of foods. I'll just give a quick
834
00:39:14.579 --> 00:39:17.599
highlight over my go-to foods that I've allied with with life.
835
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.079
Like I like eat seasonal fruit. So as it comes
836
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:24.010
through the season, I eat seasonal fruit. So like melons
837
00:39:24.050 --> 00:39:26.050
are in season now in the fall. It's like apples
838
00:39:26.110 --> 00:39:28.550
and pears, berries all the time. Like I think fruit
839
00:39:28.590 --> 00:39:30.980
on an empty stomach is a very valuable... thing you
840
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:32.980
get a lot of unique types of fibers it's like
841
00:39:33.019 --> 00:39:35.900
fast digesting good for your microbiome i do i am
842
00:39:35.940 --> 00:39:38.059
a believer in fiber diversity i think that we want
843
00:39:38.380 --> 00:39:40.559
a lot of different types because i've seen the research
844
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.619
and i've also done enough gut tests to see that
845
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:46.510
like you want acromantia you want different like mucus producing
846
00:39:46.530 --> 00:39:49.500
and supporting bacteria like and The fibers help. So I'm
847
00:39:49.539 --> 00:39:52.159
a big fruit guy. I have some, I use protein powder.
848
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:54.019
I make a clean one myself. And I think it's
849
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.219
a great tool because we know that protein is important.
850
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:58.559
And so like I have it as an arsenal. Sometimes
851
00:39:58.619 --> 00:40:00.530
I make it like a protein smoothie and that's 50
852
00:40:00.530 --> 00:40:02.690
grams right there. Yeah. For me personally, it might not
853
00:40:02.710 --> 00:40:04.530
be for everyone. I'm a big fan of eggs. I
854
00:40:04.570 --> 00:40:06.170
eat a lot of eggs. I eat the egg yolks.
855
00:40:06.230 --> 00:40:08.329
I think they're like, at least for my, as a dad,
856
00:40:08.530 --> 00:40:10.210
a checkbox. If I get a couple of egg yolks
857
00:40:10.250 --> 00:40:12.489
into my daughter, I'm like, oh, she's like, she's like sad.
858
00:40:12.570 --> 00:40:14.969
You just got choline, all the vitamins. Those are wonderful.
859
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:18.159
Great protein source. I think that getting omega-3s from food
860
00:40:18.179 --> 00:40:21.880
sources are great. Sardines, mackerel, cold water fatty fish. But
861
00:40:21.900 --> 00:40:25.030
I also do the plant-based, you know, hemp hearts, chia seeds,
862
00:40:25.050 --> 00:40:27.230
like these types of things. It's ALA, but it's still good.
863
00:40:27.269 --> 00:40:30.869
It's all additive in there. Extra virgin olive oil, avocados,
864
00:40:31.010 --> 00:40:35.349
macadamia nuts, walnuts, cacao. And, you know, I actually, what
865
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I think versus my body one day is I don't
866
00:40:36.949 --> 00:40:38.909
stress as much about protein as I used to. And
867
00:40:38.929 --> 00:40:41.570
I probably eat lower protein than many people do. But man,
868
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I get like between 100 and 150 grams of protein
869
00:40:42.909 --> 00:40:46.099
a day. I eat higher fats on some days where
870
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:49.460
I don't train. Post-workout, purple potatoes, I do well with
871
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.519
on those tubers. I figured that out for me. And, like, yeah,
872
00:40:52.579 --> 00:40:53.960
I mean, you can get into the minors, but I'm
873
00:40:53.980 --> 00:40:56.000
just sharing, like, these are some things that I've found,
874
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:59.420
and I feel fantastic. Oh, yeah, me too. I was
875
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:03.739
starving myself of fat for 20, 30 years. And I
876
00:41:04.179 --> 00:41:07.690
went from eating 15 a day to about 120 now
877
00:41:07.769 --> 00:41:09.809
a day. I'm around the same. Yeah, it is the
878
00:41:09.849 --> 00:41:12.710
best I have ever felt. Me too. And I'm with you.
879
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.679
I was doing the whole egg whites every day and
880
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.940
not eating yolks. And man, I always have at least four, right?
881
00:41:19.139 --> 00:41:21.139
There's even some research on the muscle building component that
882
00:41:21.179 --> 00:41:23.960
the whole egg, which you wouldn't expect because you're like, oh,
883
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:25.909
I'm getting the amino acids and I'm getting the leucine
884
00:41:25.949 --> 00:41:28.690
from the egg white, but the whole egg works better. Absolutely.
885
00:41:28.710 --> 00:41:31.130
You get a better anabolic response. Yeah. You're taking part
886
00:41:31.150 --> 00:41:33.190
of it. Gee whiz, the whole thing. Yeah. Who would
887
00:41:33.210 --> 00:41:35.840
have thought? You know, and I spent all those years
888
00:41:35.889 --> 00:41:39.480
eating fat-free yogurt and just making myself miserable. Honestly, now,
889
00:41:39.969 --> 00:41:42.090
It's funny, because I used to look at labels and
890
00:41:42.130 --> 00:41:43.769
if it had fat in it, I'd be like, oh,
891
00:41:43.849 --> 00:41:46.110
I don't know. Now, if it doesn't, I'm more like,
892
00:41:46.130 --> 00:41:47.869
I don't know if I want that or not. Because
893
00:41:47.889 --> 00:41:52.510
it strips everything out and fills it with BS. It's amazing. Yeah.
894
00:41:52.769 --> 00:41:54.650
I want to share something that I think is maybe
895
00:41:54.750 --> 00:41:57.369
a little more unique to my perspective. I'm not into
896
00:41:57.389 --> 00:42:01.070
the same thing. I am really into... My spiritual walk,
897
00:42:01.309 --> 00:42:03.610
which for me involves like a lot of prayer and meditation.
898
00:42:03.650 --> 00:42:06.130
So I've become sensitive over time to the foods that
899
00:42:06.170 --> 00:42:08.840
make me feel light inside. So like this dimension of
900
00:42:08.889 --> 00:42:11.840
subjective light and heaviness. I know we eat some things
901
00:42:11.900 --> 00:42:14.199
and I feel like I'm heavy afterwards. Like one, the
902
00:42:14.260 --> 00:42:15.800
energy might be a little lower, but it feels like
903
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.039
it's sitting in my stomach. It's that. And then you
904
00:42:18.059 --> 00:42:20.360
eat some foods and you feel like light. And I
905
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.469
think that subjective feeling of lightness for me correlates and
906
00:42:23.489 --> 00:42:26.659
like really supports like meditation and inner peace. And I
907
00:42:26.699 --> 00:42:28.679
also know if you look back into like the yogis
908
00:42:28.739 --> 00:42:31.360
and all the study through India of like what supports meditation,
909
00:42:31.380 --> 00:42:33.699
they're like, oh, these are sattvic foods. These are foods
910
00:42:33.739 --> 00:42:36.449
that help a quiet mind and energized body. And, you know,
911
00:42:36.510 --> 00:42:40.329
I've gotten deeper into like listening inside, like tuning in,
912
00:42:40.409 --> 00:42:43.449
getting centered, getting connected. I eat a diet now that
913
00:42:43.489 --> 00:42:47.349
helps support that. So like I had some steak with
914
00:42:47.389 --> 00:42:49.639
my buddies, but that's not what I would eat before
915
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.369
I meditate. Yeah. It would not be ideal. Like, uh,
916
00:42:52.710 --> 00:42:54.510
I would be in a fasted state or I'd eat
917
00:42:54.530 --> 00:42:57.030
something very, very light. And so just understand there's like
918
00:42:57.469 --> 00:42:59.690
foods that are not just like absolutely the best all
919
00:42:59.710 --> 00:43:02.409
the time. It's like what's suited for your goals. Yeah. Yeah.
920
00:43:02.449 --> 00:43:04.230
I mean, to someone who does a deep fast, you'll
921
00:43:04.269 --> 00:43:06.630
see how it can be powerful in terms of how
922
00:43:06.670 --> 00:43:09.409
you feel and how connected you are during those times. Yeah.
923
00:43:09.429 --> 00:43:11.670
Because those heavy meals, they kind of make you, I
924
00:43:11.710 --> 00:43:15.449
don't know, just tired and you're not really there. There's
925
00:43:15.510 --> 00:43:18.670
blood flow. There's digestion happening. It's like in some of
926
00:43:18.690 --> 00:43:21.449
the yoga philosophy and Eastern philosophy, tamasic, there's a heaviness
927
00:43:21.510 --> 00:43:24.150
about them. They can be like grounding, but for the
928
00:43:24.190 --> 00:43:26.750
purposes of feeling like calm and clean inside, it's not
929
00:43:26.769 --> 00:43:30.469
the best. Yeah, totally. Totally agree. Let's go back in
930
00:43:30.510 --> 00:43:32.650
time a little bit to the bodybuilding side of things.
931
00:43:32.730 --> 00:43:34.809
I want to touch on that because we haven't gone there.
932
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I love everything we've talked about, but I want to,
933
00:43:36.949 --> 00:43:39.639
I want to touch on some things here. So you
934
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.179
started bodybuilding at what age? Okay. So, I mean, I
935
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.840
started like pushups and training around 12. Okay. I went
936
00:43:45.860 --> 00:43:48.840
to an all boys Jesuit high school. So there's no girls.
937
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:51.349
So like Getting jacked was like the thing. Here I
938
00:43:51.550 --> 00:43:53.150
carry my lunch pail. So I'd say I was like
939
00:43:53.170 --> 00:43:56.309
strength training pretty hard from like 13 onwards. Did my
940
00:43:56.349 --> 00:43:59.670
first bodybuilding show at 18. Okay. So what was, let's
941
00:44:00.170 --> 00:44:02.210
start at 12. How much did you weigh and how
942
00:44:02.269 --> 00:44:04.789
tall were you? And then at 18, where did you go? 12,
943
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I was probably, you know, I was like, I was
944
00:44:06.750 --> 00:44:10.150
probably around 100, 110 pounds. And I graduated high school
945
00:44:10.289 --> 00:44:14.900
almost 200 pounds. Went on like 100 pounds throughout high school. Um,
946
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:16.420
and you know, I was at the time, like, I
947
00:44:16.460 --> 00:44:18.159
think I was just trying to eat a lot of food.
948
00:44:18.179 --> 00:44:20.960
I remember making a lot of sandwiches, sad, but true.
949
00:44:21.019 --> 00:44:23.489
There's healthy choice microwavable meals. I was making a lot
950
00:44:23.530 --> 00:44:25.329
of those. I didn't know about the whole like plastics,
951
00:44:25.389 --> 00:44:27.829
endocrine disruptors, but like I was doing my own meal prep,
952
00:44:27.849 --> 00:44:29.570
you know? So that was what I was doing. Microwaving
953
00:44:29.610 --> 00:44:31.369
those suckers. And then I was also like, I read
954
00:44:31.409 --> 00:44:33.530
this book, super squats is like, all you need to
955
00:44:33.570 --> 00:44:35.210
do is drink a gallon of milk a day and
956
00:44:35.250 --> 00:44:37.949
you need to like squat. And I'm like lactose intolerant,
957
00:44:37.969 --> 00:44:40.610
but I was just like kidding that stuff. Cause like calories,
958
00:44:40.670 --> 00:44:43.000
I guess. And I tried a lot of those. mass gainers,
959
00:44:43.019 --> 00:44:45.219
which is just like cheap malted dextrin with like low
960
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:48.440
quality protein. But like, Hey man, like enough effort, enough
961
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:51.320
suboptimal effort in the right way with a, with a
962
00:44:51.340 --> 00:44:54.360
hormonal environment in your teens that is like favorable. Like,
963
00:44:54.579 --> 00:44:56.659
you know, it gets you somewhere. That's all we knew
964
00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:59.210
at the time, man, that was acceptable. So man, you
965
00:44:59.230 --> 00:45:01.230
put on a hundred pounds in like five, six years. Yeah.
966
00:45:01.309 --> 00:45:03.130
And like most muscle I had, you know, had some
967
00:45:03.190 --> 00:45:04.929
fat and then, you know, your body, when you got
968
00:45:04.969 --> 00:45:06.849
to learn how to diet and how to diet properly.
969
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:08.719
My first body control, I had no idea what I
970
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:10.559
was doing. I was like into lifting, but like, I
971
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:12.760
just like for like a month out, I just went
972
00:45:12.780 --> 00:45:15.360
to this place called Saladworks in Philly and just started
973
00:45:15.380 --> 00:45:17.559
eating like salads. Like not bad. I was probably doing
974
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:21.300
some protein sparing modified fast, like unintentionally, just like greens
975
00:45:21.340 --> 00:45:22.820
and lettuce. And it helped me lean up. But then
976
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.659
I learned over time, like how to really properly set
977
00:45:25.739 --> 00:45:28.079
up like a cut and maintain your muscle mass and
978
00:45:28.460 --> 00:45:30.559
started to track some macros. And this was like before
979
00:45:30.659 --> 00:45:32.929
Instagram existed. You got to figure it out on your own.
980
00:45:33.380 --> 00:45:36.059
So what was your highest weight that you got up to?
981
00:45:36.500 --> 00:45:39.940
My best bodybuilding, and I won a show in Las Vegas,
982
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:42.519
Junior Nationals in a federation called Muscle Mania. I was
983
00:45:42.539 --> 00:45:45.840
probably like 195. And everyone says their body fat's lower
984
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.110
than it was, but I was shredded. But let's just
985
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:51.510
say I was like, 7, 8% body fat at 195. And,
986
00:45:51.550 --> 00:45:52.929
but like, if you looked at it, you're like, dude,
987
00:45:52.949 --> 00:45:54.889
you're probably like 3% body fat. Like whatever. I had
988
00:45:54.929 --> 00:45:56.969
fat in my butt. I had big trunks. The guys
989
00:45:57.010 --> 00:45:59.380
that tell me they have two and 3% body fat.
990
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.199
I just don't even listen. Cause it's like, did you
991
00:46:01.219 --> 00:46:05.139
be dead? Yeah. You just don't know what you're saying. Clearly. Yeah. Five, 6%.
992
00:46:05.139 --> 00:46:09.860
You're short. You're at red. You have glute striations at
993
00:46:09.860 --> 00:46:12.719
5% for sure. I ran some pretty heavy steroid cycles
994
00:46:12.949 --> 00:46:15.349
for a short amount of time. And I have, I
995
00:46:15.409 --> 00:46:17.690
will always say when I looked my best, I felt
996
00:46:17.730 --> 00:46:20.389
my worst. that you agree with that oh yeah i
997
00:46:20.409 --> 00:46:22.769
mean there was a couple preps okay so i did
998
00:46:22.849 --> 00:46:25.789
like of my bodybuilding i did like 85 of the
999
00:46:25.809 --> 00:46:28.909
time like i probably ended competitive bodybuilding when i was
1000
00:46:28.929 --> 00:46:31.989
around 25 or 26 i did my first steroid cycle
1001
00:46:32.050 --> 00:46:34.389
when i was 24 so the majority of the time
1002
00:46:34.409 --> 00:46:36.849
i was natural and man talk about being like on
1003
00:46:36.869 --> 00:46:39.880
a calorie deficit with no hormonal juice i got my
1004
00:46:39.889 --> 00:46:42.760
testosterone tested one time in my young 20s at like
1005
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:44.739
180 or something at the end of a prep just
1006
00:46:44.780 --> 00:46:47.789
like absolutely tank One time I might've had like low
1007
00:46:47.829 --> 00:46:50.190
grade rhabdo or something is just doing so much calorie
1008
00:46:50.230 --> 00:46:52.550
and a deficit. I almost like couldn't even like move
1009
00:46:52.570 --> 00:46:55.369
or get up in that much pain. But yeah, bodybuilding
1010
00:46:55.489 --> 00:46:58.489
in its spirit of like building your body up and
1011
00:46:58.849 --> 00:47:02.800
working on physical strength is beautiful. Competitive bodybuilding is a beast.
1012
00:47:03.179 --> 00:47:05.639
It's its own thing. Very grateful I did it. I'm
1013
00:47:05.659 --> 00:47:08.159
just not motivated in the same way that I was. Well,
1014
00:47:08.219 --> 00:47:11.579
the stress and strain, it's kind of like wrestling when you're,
1015
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.659
you have to drop all that weight and all that
1016
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.619
water and and make weight for fights and everything. Man,
1017
00:47:16.659 --> 00:47:19.559
that is very unhealthy. I always struggle with that. And
1018
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:24.250
same with the bodybuilding. And look, realistically, if you want
1019
00:47:24.269 --> 00:47:26.610
to be a pro, anybody will tell you at this point,
1020
00:47:26.650 --> 00:47:29.369
you have to take steroids. And have great genetics and
1021
00:47:29.429 --> 00:47:31.289
have phenomenal genetics. That's the thing. If you're a pro
1022
00:47:31.329 --> 00:47:33.730
bodybuilder and make it worth your time to take the drugs,
1023
00:47:34.909 --> 00:47:37.170
do what you want. Life is a playground. You can choose.
1024
00:47:37.230 --> 00:47:40.019
But honestly, the genetics... are a huge part if you
1025
00:47:40.059 --> 00:47:42.500
actually want to be phenomenal. Those guys, and you'll know,
1026
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.030
but everybody always says, oh, they have to have big
1027
00:47:46.090 --> 00:47:48.369
genetics and get that size too. You can't just take
1028
00:47:48.429 --> 00:47:50.250
every steroid under the sun and get that big. You
1029
00:47:50.269 --> 00:47:52.989
got to have some blessing there too, right? To do it.
1030
00:47:53.070 --> 00:47:56.469
So I just, I think that my biggest problem with
1031
00:47:56.550 --> 00:47:58.690
it is that people get this idea because they see
1032
00:47:58.710 --> 00:48:00.590
somebody posing or in a picture and they have no
1033
00:48:00.650 --> 00:48:02.329
idea what hell they went through. And then when the
1034
00:48:02.409 --> 00:48:04.190
people make a career out of that, when you look
1035
00:48:04.250 --> 00:48:05.730
at them, when they're in like in their fifties and
1036
00:48:05.750 --> 00:48:09.719
they're like decrepit and gone from, all of the amount
1037
00:48:09.780 --> 00:48:13.519
of weight that they've carried. It's easy to say, oh,
1038
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.920
they were taking steroids and they stopped taking them. And
1039
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:18.429
that's fine. That's understandable. You're going to lose some size
1040
00:48:18.469 --> 00:48:21.650
and you're going to wreck levels. But it's also carrying
1041
00:48:21.769 --> 00:48:26.000
too much amount of weight for too long. How dangerous
1042
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:30.989
is that to do, to be... monstrous. Yeah. Because some
1043
00:48:31.030 --> 00:48:32.989
people that's all they care about is how much size
1044
00:48:33.010 --> 00:48:34.829
can I get, but how dangerous is that to your
1045
00:48:34.849 --> 00:48:36.949
long-term health? I think we all like, you know, have
1046
00:48:36.989 --> 00:48:39.590
an intuition that like the large, largest humans don't live
1047
00:48:39.630 --> 00:48:42.239
quite as long. Yeah. And there's many reasons for that.
1048
00:48:42.260 --> 00:48:44.059
It could be like the heart itself has to work
1049
00:48:44.099 --> 00:48:47.619
really hard to circulate body throughout a massive body. And
1050
00:48:47.659 --> 00:48:50.099
so like, maybe that's something to the amount of food
1051
00:48:50.139 --> 00:48:52.199
that you need to consume to maintain that weight is
1052
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.800
like problematic inherently. Like to be a competitive bodybuilder at
1053
00:48:55.820 --> 00:48:57.960
the high level, like I wasn't one, but these guys
1054
00:48:58.019 --> 00:49:01.280
like off-season need to eat like six to 8,000 calories.
1055
00:49:01.340 --> 00:49:03.030
Like that is a lot of food and it's a
1056
00:49:03.070 --> 00:49:05.809
lot of digestive stress. And then you create an environment
1057
00:49:05.829 --> 00:49:08.909
where you're trying to create maximum anabolic signaling at all time,
1058
00:49:09.030 --> 00:49:12.550
like always having amino acids and insulin is typically triggered
1059
00:49:12.570 --> 00:49:14.769
all the time. Like that's just an antithesis of this
1060
00:49:14.869 --> 00:49:17.530
balanced physiology that we want. Yeah. And then I think
1061
00:49:17.550 --> 00:49:19.630
there's also like when you lift incredibly heavy, there can
1062
00:49:19.670 --> 00:49:21.739
be some joint damage that happens that can create a
1063
00:49:21.739 --> 00:49:24.190
lot of pain. A lot of bodybuilders have bad shoulders,
1064
00:49:24.230 --> 00:49:26.289
bad knees, bad back from like a ton of like
1065
00:49:26.389 --> 00:49:30.599
really heavy lifting over time. And you develop some unhealthy
1066
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.119
relationships to food, as you know. Oh, yeah. I think
1067
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:35.139
that's one of the things, too, is when you are
1068
00:49:35.219 --> 00:49:39.070
doing that kind of competition, body dysmorphia is a major thing.
1069
00:49:39.090 --> 00:49:42.889
And an eating disorder isn't just anorexia. There's a lot
1070
00:49:42.929 --> 00:49:45.389
of different types of eating disorders and battles with food
1071
00:49:45.449 --> 00:49:48.590
and struggles and a lot of diets that are messed
1072
00:49:48.769 --> 00:49:52.199
up that you can go through where it could be overconsumption, too, right?
1073
00:49:52.219 --> 00:49:55.429
And a lot of Like, I'm one of those that's, okay,
1074
00:49:55.449 --> 00:49:57.889
let's understand cholesterol, but some of the things that they
1075
00:49:57.909 --> 00:50:00.570
do is way too much. It's just too much on
1076
00:50:00.590 --> 00:50:04.429
the heart drain. It's just, it goes overboard. So would
1077
00:50:04.449 --> 00:50:07.969
you say that that's not really the ideal career path
1078
00:50:08.010 --> 00:50:11.329
for longevity? I'll be 100% a bodybuilder. It's definitely the
1079
00:50:11.389 --> 00:50:15.789
antithesis of it. We see a lot of these guys. Yeah,
1080
00:50:15.809 --> 00:50:19.690
there's a couple good examples of bodybuilders. Who have lived
1081
00:50:19.730 --> 00:50:22.750
into like their late 90s and had some good careers.
1082
00:50:22.789 --> 00:50:25.409
I think Albert Beckles is one who just recently passed away.
1083
00:50:25.469 --> 00:50:28.269
We see Frank Zane quoted a long time. Jack LaLanne
1084
00:50:28.309 --> 00:50:30.570
was kind of a bodybuilder fitness icon who I really
1085
00:50:30.610 --> 00:50:31.969
looked up to. But a lot of these guys are
1086
00:50:31.989 --> 00:50:36.389
dropping in their 60s from typically cardiovascular issues. Mm hmm. Yeah,
1087
00:50:36.590 --> 00:50:38.369
it's a combination of a lot of things, too, because
1088
00:50:38.389 --> 00:50:40.590
there's a lot of painkillers involved there, too. That's true.
1089
00:50:40.789 --> 00:50:43.630
A lot. To me, that's the biggest killer of them
1090
00:50:43.750 --> 00:50:46.789
all is the painkiller abuse and binding it with steroid
1091
00:50:46.989 --> 00:50:49.449
use and being dependent on that. Well, you'll know this.
1092
00:50:49.630 --> 00:50:52.730
There's a hubris that often gets involved when you begin
1093
00:50:52.769 --> 00:50:55.150
to understand the body and the chemistry, and you start
1094
00:50:55.190 --> 00:50:57.170
to dabble, and you know you can take certain things,
1095
00:50:57.230 --> 00:50:59.150
and it's working on this receptor and this pathway, and
1096
00:50:59.170 --> 00:51:00.929
you can counteract it, and you can do it safely
1097
00:51:00.969 --> 00:51:02.920
because you know how to, like, keep the blood thin
1098
00:51:02.980 --> 00:51:04.800
and support the liver. But like it ends up being
1099
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:06.559
like your mindset is, oh, there's like a lot of
1100
00:51:06.579 --> 00:51:09.300
pharmacology and I'm going to start fixing problems with different
1101
00:51:09.340 --> 00:51:12.460
stacks and things. And man, it's a slippery slope. Yeah,
1102
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.059
it is. You rob Peter to pay Paul and it
1103
00:51:15.139 --> 00:51:18.409
never ends. It just doesn't end. So let's kind of
1104
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:20.989
talk about the event that you've got coming up here
1105
00:51:21.010 --> 00:51:24.429
because it's exciting, man. And, you know, I'm like I said,
1106
00:51:24.489 --> 00:51:27.590
I am just thrilled for you first of all understanding
1107
00:51:27.659 --> 00:51:29.800
now more about the time and effort that you've put
1108
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:32.659
in to get here and then understanding conceptually what you're
1109
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:34.420
doing that's different than a lot of the same old
1110
00:51:34.460 --> 00:51:37.960
events that we go to what is it and what
1111
00:51:38.019 --> 00:51:40.719
is the the motivation because i feel like there's more
1112
00:51:40.820 --> 00:51:44.070
like god driven behind this event as opposed to oh
1113
00:51:44.329 --> 00:51:46.670
it's just a big expo of money grabs and how
1114
00:51:46.710 --> 00:51:49.550
many companies can we get in here and bring speakers
1115
00:51:49.630 --> 00:51:51.550
in that nobody even wants to listen to because it's
1116
00:51:51.570 --> 00:51:53.989
just a big money grab for sure yours seems like
1117
00:51:54.010 --> 00:51:58.000
there's a lot more impact involved in this. Yeah. I
1118
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:01.760
think I would describe this event as a transformational event
1119
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:06.039
that is based in, in holistic health and longevity versus
1120
00:52:06.139 --> 00:52:10.329
maybe how you might describe a biohacking or a health
1121
00:52:10.389 --> 00:52:12.829
conference where it's just like booths of all the different
1122
00:52:12.869 --> 00:52:14.829
supplements and all the things, and just like a lot
1123
00:52:14.869 --> 00:52:17.030
of run of the mill speakers and like a lot
1124
00:52:17.050 --> 00:52:19.909
of great information, but information is not transformation. I'm interested
1125
00:52:19.949 --> 00:52:23.190
in transformation. I'm interested in creating a container where people
1126
00:52:23.210 --> 00:52:26.090
can drop in for a few days and experience real
1127
00:52:26.150 --> 00:52:30.230
human connection, a couple massive insights that might be physical
1128
00:52:30.289 --> 00:52:32.449
and related to protocols, but they might be related to
1129
00:52:32.510 --> 00:52:35.909
emotions or mental stuff, and really come and make a
1130
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:38.239
change and a shift to their trajectory and their energy
1131
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:40.679
in a couple of days. And so I architect events
1132
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:42.880
that go through an arc. It's a three-day event. It's
1133
00:52:42.900 --> 00:52:45.590
called Breakthrough in the Desert. It's August 7th through 9th.
1134
00:52:46.019 --> 00:52:47.980
You are speaking on the first day and kicking us off,
1135
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.900
which I'm super grateful for, because again, Your message to
1136
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.019
me is one that respects a lot of the science
1137
00:52:53.059 --> 00:52:55.500
and the protocols, but it's deeply rooted in this whole
1138
00:52:55.579 --> 00:52:58.719
person health. And so the event has an amazing arc
1139
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:00.679
because we're going to be bringing in health experts and
1140
00:53:00.699 --> 00:53:02.929
there's going to be panels every morning. We're doing some
1141
00:53:02.969 --> 00:53:06.730
kind of movement activation, qigong, strength training, breath work. We
1142
00:53:06.750 --> 00:53:09.650
have a cacao ceremony, you know, stretching. We're doing some
1143
00:53:09.670 --> 00:53:12.409
different myofascial work. So I'm a big believer at these events. Like,
1144
00:53:12.449 --> 00:53:14.929
I just don't want to sit in another conference room
1145
00:53:14.969 --> 00:53:16.909
or hotel room and like have my back hurt because
1146
00:53:16.949 --> 00:53:18.949
I'm sitting for six hours and like, it sucks because
1147
00:53:19.369 --> 00:53:21.469
But like a mix of like movements. So we have
1148
00:53:21.510 --> 00:53:23.889
movement throughout the entire day. We have like the healthiest
1149
00:53:23.949 --> 00:53:27.030
catered lunches there. We have wonderful speakers and presenters like
1150
00:53:27.070 --> 00:53:30.239
yourself and breakout activities and activations. And so a couple
1151
00:53:30.260 --> 00:53:32.659
of things I'm really stoked about. On the day you're speaking,
1152
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:34.300
you're going to be a part of a health expert
1153
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.659
panel with Dr. Philip Ovedia and also Troy Casey, the
1154
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.840
certified health nut, which will be really cool and amazing.
1155
00:53:40.260 --> 00:53:41.949
I'm going to be giving a couple of keynotes. Our
1156
00:53:42.050 --> 00:53:43.670
keynote speaker on the first day is a guy named
1157
00:53:43.710 --> 00:53:46.849
Jim Flaherty, who just turned 90. he's traveling the country,
1158
00:53:46.909 --> 00:53:49.510
writing books and like really embodying like this kind of stuff.
1159
00:53:49.570 --> 00:53:51.389
And so it's going to be cool to like be
1160
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a part of a living experience of people who want
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to be healthy, not just 60, but 70 and 80
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whole person health. We have a lot of amazing connection activities,
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Arizona grand resort. They have like this incredible water park.
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We're gonna have a pool party on Saturday night, book signing.
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We're gonna do a cacao ceremony. I have this friend
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who's going to be leading us through like an ancient Hawaiian,
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like energy healing. So we're going to get a little woo,
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but we're also like have like doctors they're presenting on hormones.
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Like Dr. Amy Horniman. And so I love like health
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and how it translates into leadership. And like this event
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is one of my blessings and creations to get a
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container and then like bring people in like you and
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others that anyone who says yes and comes to my event,
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it's like guaranteed transformation. Like come say yes to a
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container for three days to work on yourself. You are
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going to be nourished in every way possible. Food, mentally,
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emotionally connections. You're going to learn amazing things. And it's
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like if you're going to spend three days in the
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summer doing something like just like come do something focused
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around health and well-being. So it's called Breakthrough in the Desert, Phoenix, Arizona,
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August 7th through 9th. And thank you for being involved. Oh, man.
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Thank you for putting on something different. That's just more impactful,
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more spiritual, more helpful. It's like anymore. It's like you've
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seen them when you've seen them all. And I feel
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like there's a lot of wasted times. Because they bring
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in speakers as names. And the speakers only care about
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what they're selling as opposed to what they're teaching and providing.
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Everybody's got to sell. Everybody's got to make money. That
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is obvious. But at the same time, it's like, I
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would like it to be where people are going there
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to actually change. Yeah. And sometimes it's not the size
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of the event. It's the premise. That's it. And this
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is like a more intimate event. We'll have like 150 people,
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like roundtable seeing. beautiful main stage like the stuff you
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expect from going to like a high level conference but
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it's just like it's about connection because i think like
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to transform like first step is like is like permission
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to step into the container it's like okay i'm ready
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to like make a shift so there's like some kind
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of like subtle yes that needs to happen and i
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think that's why signing up for stuff is like powerful
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whether someone joins a program or signs up for an
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event the transformation already happens when you give yourself the
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permission to step in number two is like awareness like
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becoming more aware of things. And awareness is really facilitated
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by stepping away from the throes of your everyday life.
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Phone sits down for a little bit, home chores sit
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down for a little bit. You give yourself the space
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to be in a reflective mood and mindset. And then
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you're in an environment around other people that we're just
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like drawing energy and inspiration from. In our time that
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we spent together, I'm picking up some things. I'm picking
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up that like, dude, I see a man that's like
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so deeply connected to his mission. Anyone listening to this
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podcast is like, oh, this Anthony guy's connected to his mission.
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But I'm like, There's like levels to like that congruency.
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And so like I receive an upgrade because we're in
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shared space. And then like as an event facilitator and
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someone who's been creating experiences for people for over 10 years,
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like there's a way to shape it where it just
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like it's beautiful. There's an arc. There's a climax. There's
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an integration. It's about longevity. It's about mental, emotional well-being.
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Like we're always breathing at my events. We're always moving.
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We're eating healthy food. It's just like really nourishing and fun.
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So I am stoked. A lot of God, a lot
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of good, a lot of love, a lot of change, man.
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That's what I'm sensing with everything. That's what it's all about.
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My friend, I am so stoked, so thankful that I
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met you and that he let me come out here
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and chill with you and record out here. And it's,
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you know... it's just cool to experience like so many
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different things with people and share it with people and
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be a part of it. So I am thrilled, man.
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And I'm thrilled for you. I love what you're doing.
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I want people to check out the Fit Father and
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Fit Mother project because there's so much more to it
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than anything that I've ever heard of. And the whole
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reason and rationale behind it, it's, It's far deeper than
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just getting healthy. Getting healthy is multifaceted, and I feel
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like you're trying to cover all the bases. So, man, awesome.
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Tell everybody where they can follow you. I'll link all
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the descriptions and also the website for the event so
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we can get people signed up. Yeah, so fitfather.com or fitmother.com.
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Those are the main websites. So they can go to fitfather.com
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forward slash breakthrough or forward slash 2026. So fitfather.com forward
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slash 2026 or fitfather.com forward slash breakthrough. That's for the event.
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The main site is fitfather.com and fitmother.com. And then on YouTube,
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if you type in fit father or fit mother or
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Anthony Balduzzi, Dr. Balduzzi, I'll come up with like almost
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a thousand videos. So sweet. I love it, man. Awesome. Well, again,
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thank you for the hospitality. Thank you for your work.
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And it's just been a real, real pleasure and honor
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to come out here and sit with you, my friend.
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So appreciate you, man. Thank you. Thank you. All right, everybody,
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that wraps up another one. Get over to that event.
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Check out my friend here online. I'll link everything in
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the description. We hope to see you soon. That wraps
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up another one. Stay tuned for plenty more to come.
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Dylan Gemelli and Dr. Anthony Balduzzi signing off.