The Marching Qween, Ms Natalie Allan - Episode 14

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Cheers to that.
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I'm back.
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She's back.
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Oh very good job.
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Oh pissed you.
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You did a great job.
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So you and I should we should we formally start the episode?
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Mm-hmm.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Welcome to this fizzy podcast.
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I'm your host, Justine Renee.
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And I'm your host.
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She's forgotten how to do this job.
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Renee Walker.
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Yay! We're two fizzy enthusiasts who um still know very little of this.
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That today?
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Yep.
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I was like, oh my god, I absolutely know nothing about this.
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Every time we think that we're like, oh yeah, we got this down fact.
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Yeah.
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Humbled.
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Although I'd say I haven't been humbled in a while, and in that time I've gotten quite cocky.
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Yeah.
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And thinking that I know quite a lot.
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And um I would have brought you down a few bags.
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I was just like, I give up, like, I'm just never gonna know it all.
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Oh, we will.
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Look at how far we've come.
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But we have come a long way.
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We used to call it the fizzies.
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Oh, we used to call it the fizzies.
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Instead of codes.
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See, we know.
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We probably know m a lot more than other people would across the spectrum of your standard people.
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Yeah, we're like and we're a bit higher than a beginner.
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Yeah.
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That's nice.
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I'll take that.
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Alright.
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We know a bit more than a beginner.
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I don't know, I just burp.
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Gross.
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Gross.
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No, I I rate that.
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There's no beginning.
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She's gone for two weeks, she's lost all of her etiquette.
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I thought the Americans were more polite than a stranger.
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They really can I tell us everything about the trip.
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Oh my gosh.
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So the trip was incredible.
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I literally, by the way, for the listener, we have not spoken.
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We literally, we've done fizzy class together, haven't had two seconds to rub together to actually even talk about this trip.
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Oh, it was it was so good.
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It was so just can I just say traveling without kids for a week?
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A vibe.
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It is a vibe.
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How good is waiting in a line without kids?
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I don't care about the line.
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So me and one of my best friends, Ducky, went to see um one of our other best friends, Sasha, who listens to the potty.
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Oh, and I hey Sash, happy birthday! My gorgeous Sash, has never done fizzy in her life, is just a dedicated listener.
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She I got in her car so funny.
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We got in her car in San Francisco.
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She's like, oh, I gotta catch up in the latest episode.
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And so I'm listening to us in the past.
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Jesus, for the love of God, don't make me.
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I was like, oh god, I just want to spew with my mouth.
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Oh, hi Sash.
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Hi Sash.
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I miss you.
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Um, so it was so good.
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Yes, it is a vibe, but uh my children and our barnacles.
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Um back for the city.
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Velcro kids.
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Yeah, so it was amazing.
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We went over for Sash's um to like for her 40th, because she is one of the Bubbies in the group and she just turned 40, so we went over there.
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How fun.
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She's lived there for three years, her, her husband, and her two gorgeous boys.
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Um, yeah, and we just literally just hung around.
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So we had I'd been to San Francisco before with um my husband Carl for a bit at our honeymoon.
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Didn't overly rate it.
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I was like, meh, whatever.
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But you go with local locals, they know stuff.
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Oh, seeing a city with a local is a completely different experience.
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When in driverless cars, that was so cool.
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It was so fun.
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Yeah.
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Did um I made them, I was the biggest punish.
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I made them do um fizzy poses all over San Francisco.
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But Sash being Sash and Ducky are so funny.
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They're so fantastic.
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They're like, no, okay, we're gonna do it again.
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We're doing it again.
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We're gonna go with this iconic shot and this iconic shot.
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I knew they'd be coaching behind the scenes.
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I knew that they'd also make sure that you got the pieces.
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Oh, I wasn't even allowed to go.
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I was like, okay, I'm done now.
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They're like, nope, no, haven't got the shot.
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No, haven't got the shot.
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But um, so we did some touristy traps, you know, did all the things.
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But do you like my shirt?
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I bloody love it.
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So if anyone's been to San Francisco before, see if you can see it in this.
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Um, if you go down to Fisherman's Wharf, there's sea, like sea lions, seals everywhere, right?
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And there's a big fat one.
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A big bigger than everyone else.
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Bigger than everyone called Chonkers.
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And I loved it.
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So I saw this shirt and I was like, I want it.
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I love it.
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So I went and got it.
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So then I went, like, we're in the touristy trap and I was like, I'm getting it.
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Then Sasha bought one, and then Sasha bought one for her husband, Tim, and then Ducky bought one, and then Ducky bought one for her partner, and I was like, well, my husband won't wear it, but you know who would wear one?
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Shut up, don't make me cry.
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Oh my little, my little cohort.
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So just have a little look in the back there.
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Oh, she's crying.
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Chunkers! We're chunkers twins.
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I was literally looking at your shirt going, I kind of love that shirt.
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Yeah.
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So I should have all laughed about it.
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She's like, surely.
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I was like, oh, we gotta get Renee one.
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So now we know I was I'm captain of Purple House.
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Well, I did know this, and I was like vibing.
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I was like, she's a purple gown.
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I am.
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Um so now you have your Chonka shirt.
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That's so cool.
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So you could be in our Chunkers crew.
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I can't believe I cried.
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I know, it's just really funny.
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But so that was it, and then yeah, came home.
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Poor Ducky got the flu.
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Um no.
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I was fine.
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I wore it, I was that girl, I wore a mask or something.
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On the plane.
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Did you wear one over?
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Nah.
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No, no, Ducky made me s some essential oil crack in my nose.
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I don't know.
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Sometimes I just go, I will do your tin foil hat stuff.
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Um, but I it was good actually.
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Yeah, you rated it.
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It was good.
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We had the best time, easy breezy getting through cut like we had the dream run into the US, out of the US.
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Did you have a drink on the flight?
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Did I?
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Yeah.
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Oh, did I?
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I can't remember.
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Oh, maybe.
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But we had a dream run going in, perfect weather.
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We got told because San Francisco is really windy and cold in summer.
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It can be a bit patchy.
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Oh no, it's known to be cold.
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Oh in summer.
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Yeah, because all the wind picks up, because it's very, very windy.
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Bummy, 27 degrees.
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Everyone stopped us and they're like, You guys are so lucky.
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You got the weather.
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Oh, great! They love Australians over there.
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They're very, very, very nice people, people from San Francisco.
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Yeah, they say that Australians are most suited.
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Like, if you put all the countries into America, we would be California.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like Australians are Californians.
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Oh, we are.
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And but San Francisco is just as they're just a different breed as well.
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A lot of people are transient there, but they were just so like it was so funny.
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Sasha was telling us they compliment you all the time.
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Yeah.
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If you have a bad day, hang out with an American, just go, just go live there.
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They'll stop you in the middle of the street and go, oh, love your fit, love this, love your hair.
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And I'm like, Sounds like everyone's got ADHD over here.
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It was great.
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So approval seeking everywhere.
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It's it's fantastic.
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So highly recommend came back and now I'm back.
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So when I was away, yeah, I started watching the Kylie.
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Did you watch it on the plane?
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No, when he got home.
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What do you think?
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So she's funny.
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Oh yeah.
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She never really I didn't know much about Kylie.
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I know, she doesn't, she's been pretty private up until this moment, really.
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Like you don't really get to know her.
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Like she's not a social media whore.
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Nah.
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She's funny.
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Danny, very funny.
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Yes.
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Care for her.
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I was like, yes.
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Great fun.
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They I reckon it would have been a pretty funny relationship between them for a while.
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Oh, yeah.
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Do you reckon they were like?
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They seem to they seem to have handled it alright.
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I think so.
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But there were just times when they were really young, like that whole Johnny Young talent time.
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And I was and then, you know, then Kylie's on neighbours, and like they're sort of like outdoing each other a little bit, and then Kylie takes off.
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But I'm like, I wonder if there was a period there where they're a bit like this is my thing.
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Oh I know.
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She's like, no, you're the actress.
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I'm the singer.
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Yeah.
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She's like, no.
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Now we're gonna do all of it.
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Very beautiful.
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I've got a question for you after having watched it.
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What's your take on um Pete?
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Pete?
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Who's Pete?
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Pete, the producer, like the guy, the old English guy at the start.
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Punch him in the face.
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I wanna fucking kill that man.
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He is so incompetent.
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He is so bad at his job.
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Honest to God, I'm sorry, I'm sorry if there's boys listening right now.
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Cover your ears.
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But honest to God, all of these men in executive positions in the 80s and 90s were so highly incompetent of doing anything properly.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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No, he the it's it was very much like, you know, just the quintessential, what you can imagine a record label executive would be.
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I just can't even imagine the incompetence.
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I didn't live in that era.
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Like I was literally, I turned five in 1990, so I was very not a sentient being in the 80s.
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Yeah.
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I cannot even imagine what it would have been like to be a woman living in that world.
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Oh yeah.
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We have come such a bloody.
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Oh, I know, and we thank you, we thank you, people we thank you, women who came before us.
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I mean, we are working more than ever.
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I don't like that part of it.
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You can put your your big lighter down away from your bra on that one.
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Fucking don't really like working.
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Normalise that.
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Normalise women working.
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Whose idea was that?
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Fuck, I'm so stressed.
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Yeah, I just think I just felt she was really unprotected.
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Oh yeah.
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I wanted to grab that baby girl and just say, I'm gonna be a manager.
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You speak to nobody.
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Yeah, no one gets access to you.
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Yeah, everyone's coming to meet.
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Where was her manager?
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I know, I don't she didn't have one.
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She didn't have one, it wouldn't have even been a fucking thing back then.
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Yeah.
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You just have these little starlets, highly sexualized looking young people running around with no one watching them.
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And I for her credit, she was 18 when she left Australia.
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She was young.
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She was an adult.
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But I'm sorry to those 19-year-olds who are listening to us, you're a you're a baby.
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They are, they're babies.
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The five 19-year-olds are listening to us, they have now turned out and they're like, Well, I will not biddies.
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I know the juniors at our club are listening to us.
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I know, I don't feel like too much for that.
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Now I'm thinking about your mum, like girls, stop swearing, and I'm like, oh Steph.
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Oh, sorry, Steph.
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Yeah, there are young girls listening to us.
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Apologies.
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Another question.
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Yeah.
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Jason Donovan.
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Oh god.
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Just can't.
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Do you know what?
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I okay, so this is I watching the you gotta understand the lens I was watching this in, right?
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I realised when I was watching, I barely know anything about her life.
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And so for him, I didn't I didn't know they were together.
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Either do so when I was first watching him, I was like, the guy from neighbours.
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Well, yes, but also I was like, you seem like a bit of a bitter bitch.
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What are you so bitter about?
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And then I went, oh and then it got into it.
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I was like, oh you're 40 years later, and we still hold in a nasty grudge.
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I feel sorry for I feel bad.
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I feel bad for him.
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Like after seeing everything that went out, I was like, oh mate, like you're in love and he got.
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And his career just didn't hold a candle to hers.
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No, like but he's very bitter.
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It's a combination of bitter and maybe he back then was a bit basic.
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Is he basic?
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I don't know.
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I don't really know the first thing about it.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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He was just like But I I can just see like he said, you know, I could I could have definitely seen us getting married, having a couple of kids, and I was like Dole Face.
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She won't man in the 80s, man.
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That was so far behind.
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And full credit to us, we hadn't stepped up into the world yet, really, compared to what we're all doing now.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Thanks, bra burners.
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He was also a little bit incom not incompetent, just he wasn't as bright a star as a big thing.
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Oh no, yeah.
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And like and he thought they were gonna get married and have kids and live a suburban life.
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I know, I know.
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So I can see why he's upset because I think he probably feels very blindsided by the whole thing.
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Yeah, that's what I mean.
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Like because I didn't know all of that when I was watching.
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My first, literally, my first thought that went through my head when I heard him start talking, I went, Why are you so bitter?
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But then they were like following the journey.
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And I was like, oh I didn't know they were together either.
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I thought they were just married on the show.
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That's what I thought.
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I was like, ah, because when everyone talks about Scott and Charlene, they're actually talking about the fact that they were actually together as well.
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I that went over my head.
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Yeah, oh we are not children, we're children of the 90s.
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We too we like to say we dabbled in the 80s, but we've got no idea what and watching that documentary actually cemented it for me that I'm not a child of the 80s because I don't this is so far out of my like imagination of how incompetent someone could be.
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Pete, man, you are so bad at your job.
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Um I just don't like that they put a lot of her success down to the people who were around her.
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Yeah.
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Like the men are all taking the credit for what she achieved.
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And like that bloke hadn't even written her a song.
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Oh, I know.
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And she'd flown all the way from Australia and was on neighbours, which is very popular in his own country.
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He was so fucking incompetent.
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It's like, how are you living under a rock?
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Oh even the BBC called him.
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I know it's just gonna be on top of the that's huge.
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She was invited to be on top of the pops.
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After recording one song.
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I wish I was a single, she recorded one song.
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She had never even released a bloody album yet.
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I know.
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Yeah.
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She was she's amazing, she's a queen, and um also there was no strategy behind the way she was being managed.
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Nah.
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Um, and then she was criticized for that as well.
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I know.
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In an era when no one talked about mental health.
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I know.
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That would have been so hard.
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Oh.
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Everyone talks about their mental health now.
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I know.
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I'm having a bloody mental breakdown every day.
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Well, that's as many notes as I made on that.
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That's far we got.
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No, like I to be fair, I I like like I liked it.
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I was like watching it, but I don't know about you.
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I got to, you know, it was three episodes, four.
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Uh, I only watched two, but I felt like I got the flow.
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You can tell me I'll keep going.
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Well, like don't you know?
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No, watch it.
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I'm not gonna ruin it for you, but honestly, I'll let you watch it.
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So, you know, because people also may have not have um finished it.
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Well about what you're doing.
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I watched the last one and went.
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Oh, is that it?
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Oh shit.
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Like, I went, Well, I I'm so confused.
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They did a really good job, I think, in the first two, three episodes of like really well-rounded talking about the particular moments, eras in her so well done.
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God, he's hot.
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Then I was like, Oh, quick, we're just gonna round this up in like 15 minutes.
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Someone phoned it in to the email that went, I'm I'm bored, I'm done.
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I've got ADHD in this project's got real boring.
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We're just done now.
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That is legitimate is Kylie still alive?
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She's still with us?
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I I had to rewind.
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I was like, rewind because I'm on a VHS.
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I had to.
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Oh, maybe we are children of the 80s.
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I had to rewatch it.
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I'm like, have I missed something?
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And I'm waiting if they're gonna do a second draw.
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I don't, I I could not know if I genuinely couldn't tell you what the last episode was about.
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Oh, maybe they might even bring out another one and you'd be like, oh well, at least we're getting our ending now.
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Maybe it's not over.
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I highly recommend watching it.
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And like I was laughing because my first it was either my first year or Carla's first year when she did Fizzy, it was better the devil, you know.
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And that was the dance song.
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But I think mine was the Adam Sfam League.
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Oh no! No, not that.
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You know that fuck so no.
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How'd you do fizzy to that?
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No, you know, I think it was MC Hammer.
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Do what you want to do, say what you want to say, live how you want to play perfectly.
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Yeah, yeah, that I think it was for the movie.
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Someone recorded.
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Oh, right.
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They did that.
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The Adam's Family movie, not the TV show from like 1900.
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I was like, how the hell do you do fizzy to that?
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Oh, so good.
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Oh, good to be back together.
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Oh my god.
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With the K that actually, that episode with Kia, at least it actually sounded like like this this is just rambling, but I promise it's not, guys.
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So if you please don't tune out.
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No.
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We're getting somewhere.
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We've got a big we've got lots to talk about.
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We do, and we have a big guest.
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He's gonna be here.
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I know.
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I was very nervous talking to her, actually.
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Why?
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Oh, she's a big deal.
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She is a big deal.
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She's a real big deal.
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She is a very deal.
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I mean, I had no reason to be nervous, but I just felt like I was in the presence of greatness.
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Well, well, speaking of greatness, let's see, let's see if people can see these.
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Oh, you know.
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Nothing special happening around here, just uh having a drink with my trophy.
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Just drinking some cans with some cups.
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Oh, do you reckon she'd be upset if I put a can in the cup?
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I don't think she'd care.
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So these are these are ours now.
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Yeah, they're ours.
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Because we can't get cups.
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We can get lots of cans.
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You can fit a lot of cans in this cup.
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I'll show you.
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Oh my god.
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Tastes like success.
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So sacrilegious.
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Oh, we're gonna get banned.
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Tastes so much better out of a cup.
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We ought to know.
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This is the closest we're ever getting to cups.
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Alright.
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This is as close as I'm ever getting to a cup.
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You ladies had asked.
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And we deliver.
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Oh, we absolutely do.
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We deliver for our potty fans.
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I don't think that we have brought the goods on this.
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We have brought the goods.
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I'll eat my hat.
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I'll eat my hat.
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I'll throw down fizzy.
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So, our guest here will be joining us today.
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She started Fizzy at the age of three.
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She wasn't actually a fan of fizzy, funnily enough, um, when she was younger.
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And she yeah, she used to drag her, um, she used to get her two sisters to come on the floor with her.
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Oh, wow.
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Well, she's starting at three though.
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Yeah, was was not a fan.
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I don't think many three-year-olds would be maxed out on going a fizzy.
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Yeah, she is an associate and she has been an associate for 17 years.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Um she has had a fair few accolades under her belt, as you can imagine, over the time.
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The highlights of it would be um winning open champion girl in 2017.
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So if people are doing the trivia, they might start guessing on who that who that potentially was.
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Yep.
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Then probably her biggest one is um winning ladies' overall grand in 2022.
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So this is well and truly narrowing it down, people who know their fizzy trivia.
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She's currently at Brisbane Water United and runs it with her mum and the rest of the fizzy team.
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It is Miss Natalie Allen.
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We are joined in the studio by none other than Miss Natalie Allen.
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And we've got, and she's been so lovely and has um lent us um all of her heaps of her accolades, so we're milking it.
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It's amazing.
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I'm so excited.
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You're gonna find out all the things that we did with cups.
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Can't wait.
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And we love you for bringing that in.
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We had cans and then we've hung out with cups.
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We've hang hung out with cups.
00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:39.519
Okay, so as we're mentioning, everyone marching is a beast until itself.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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No one could do it.
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We're all struggling.
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And it also seems like it doesn't matter how long you've been in fizzy.
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It's hard, right?
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It just seems like you never it's like, you know, you talk about the white white like it is the white whale.
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Like but even if you've done it for as long as you've done it, I think you've mastered it.
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But you know, there'd be other people that have been doing it a very long time that have said to me, I still am working on my march.
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Absolutely.
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And it it's I think when we were like doing the stuff this morning, I no matter how long you've done it for, I still feel that there's always something to fix, or there's always something that might fall off the bandwagon.
00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:23.279
Or, you know, there's something you can still work on, whether it be stamina, like put your toes a little bit harder, you know, push your turn out a little bit more.
00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:23.519
Yeah.
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I still feel like you've got to think about that.
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Yeah.
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Do you think it's one of the hardest things to do in fizzy?
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Absolutely.
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Marching.
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I think that and um mastering obviously the musicality of the the the fizzy and getting like, you know, your finger-wrist sort of arm movements.
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I think they're probably the hardest things to master, but marching, most definitely.
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I think it's also when you get um like bad habits stuck in.
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And I think where they they catch people is because the music is always so varied.
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It is! Yeah, so you can't get it.
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The beats are always gonna be a little bit different.
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You're never gonna find two songs that have got like you spend, you know, ten months of the year getting comfortable.
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Yeah.
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And then the next year they just go, Oh, well, here you go.
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Here's four tracks that are completely different in tempo and bass and all of that, and then you go, Oh shit.
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It's gonna learn it again, right?
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Good old fizzy gods always keeping us on our toes.
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And that isn't true at um when you go to nationals, then they go, Hey, yeah, we're now just gonna throw completely different music at you.
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And you also don't know what it is, right?
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:30.799
Yeah, for sure.
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So you generally what they seem to do is they'll either like do a bit of a mix of music, so they might like they don't tell you what they're gonna use, but they'll use like maybe a track from the current music, or they'll pick a track from the marching CD twenty years ago.
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Really?
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then when you say you get to like grand, like say Ladies Grand, they picked the last time I competed in Ladies Grand, they picked um a grand piece that used to be played on piano, but it was like the soundtrack version, and you just have to be able to pick it up.
00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:05.599
Wow.
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:10.640
You get you get one chance to listen to it at the back, and then you They're like, and go.
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:14.880
Yeah, it's like everyone listen up, you've got one chance to listen to it, and then that's it.
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:15.839
Wow.
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Yeah.
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They do that.
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That's a shame.
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Supposed to be you, and March.
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And they do that with like, have you did I don't know if you I don't know if they did it last year because I wasn't there to watch, but um the year before they changed the warm-up song.
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:32.720
Okay.
00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:33.599
What?
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No, okay.
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One of my many.
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Oh my god, yeah.
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:46.240
But in saying this, this is when I said I was doing my running commentary during the um because I was so confused, right?
00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:50.079
So what they did was for some reason the warm-up was double time.
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And I didn't understand, I was like, what is it?
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What's happening running?
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Did you do the warm-up when it was um the Dance the Night song?
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Yes, yeah.
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That's not the one I watched last year, but yes.
00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:05.759
Yeah, but that was the year before, and at the back they said, all right, the warm-up's gonna be a different bit different.
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:13.039
You can either mark it or you can do it full out, but you've got one chance to listen to it, and this is what you're going out onto the floor to do with Brandon.
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:16.799
It was the same song but completely different tempo.
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:19.359
Yeah, yeah, and so we all just went, Oh, okay.
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:20.000
Yeah.
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:22.960
And yeah, played it once, and then we went and did it.
00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:24.960
They did it last year, they did it double time.
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:26.240
Why are you doing me like that?
00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:26.720
I don't know.
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:32.880
And then for some reason I think the swing was slow, and I was like, Yeah, they they might throw in like an acoustic version of it.
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:34.000
Oh, whoa, what?
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:35.519
I was like, this is not hard enough.
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.799
And then they're like already so hard.
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:40.240
Stop it.
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:41.839
It's just like we're really good.
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:47.599
What's that um saying where you're like, it's the um finding the men amongst the boys or whatever that stupid saying is?
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:49.200
Oh, it's too hard already.
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:50.400
It's so hard.
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:53.119
Okay, as we allude to Yes, so marching.
00:26:53.200 --> 00:27:03.680
But they do the same with marching, so then they sort of, you know, I often say to my girls when I'm teaching, I'm like, right, this week we're gonna do marches from the current tracks, or next week we're gonna focus on marches.
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:08.799
Generally they're broken down in like, you know, fives to twelves at marches, one to fifteen.
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:13.119
Um, thirteens to seniors and marches, sixteen to twenty-five.
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:14.559
And then ladies are, you know.
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:24.799
So then I'll say to them, you know, next week we're gonna focus on the marches on the marching CD because if in a clubs generally they'll play the marches from the the syllabus.
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:31.200
Yeah, the syllabus music, um, but then come seniors day or ladies it it it can be anything.
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:32.480
Oh, so they can.
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:34.559
Oh, they can play whatever they want.
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:35.680
They run the show, right?
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:37.200
So they could play whatever they want.
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:43.200
Um, so they m they'll they might play yeah, some from the current music or they'll play some of the piano music.
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.079
So you get the ones without the you know, with no words and just music.
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:50.559
Um so they've got to be really versatile, they've got to be out of you, you gotta know what to how to hear about.
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:52.799
Okay, so you've got to practice with tempos.
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:58.480
And like sometimes it might not be a bad idea to trick your girls and play a five-year-old march so they know how to march really fast.
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:11.599
It sounds insane, but I feel like it's um, you know, trying to shake up those that are getting like stuck in perfection during the year to yeah, to see if you can do it.
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.039
Let's change it up and see how you go, because that shows greatness.
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:21.839
Absolutely, and it's definitely a thing where I have girls that march really well to slow music, but not really well to fast music.
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:24.559
They can't cannot coordinate a faster beat.
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:28.000
So they're ones that need to practice those tracks.
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:39.200
Do you know that's actually a really good um it's a really good advice because a few people were saying, you know, how do I get better not tripping over my own feet and things like that, or on the corners and things.
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:43.440
So your one of your advice is is kind of just play around with music, play around with tempo.
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:53.279
If you're if you're really good at marching to a slow track, yeah, and you're good with the sort of slow strides and the that sort of tempo, then park those for a while.
00:28:53.440 --> 00:29:03.920
Okay and and focus on the faster tempo music, focus on the those heavier beaded songs because you obviously need to you know you you can't coordinate those as well.
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:09.039
So so work on those a bit more and then come back to the ones that you could seem to be able to grab the beat of the music better.
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:09.359
Yeah.
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:23.920
Um and I do that with my girls often, like because I know which ones of them don't you know seem to be able to catch those faster ones better, or some of those girls that have really tall, long legs, they march beautifully to those slower um songs because they've got more time to stretch out.
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:31.519
Whereas a shorter, like a faster, shorter sort of beat song doesn't suit them because their legs are too long and they're like chopping them off.
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:37.279
There's just so much of pushing yourself into areas where you don't feel comfortable.
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:46.880
That's what fizzy is kind of all about getting yourself out of your comfort zone and it makes it quite a long and hard year.
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.279
But I get it, I get it, and that's why I love it.
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:55.680
Yeah, but also it's just never gets easier.
00:29:55.839 --> 00:30:00.559
No, no, even when you're getting better, you'll find something else that you need to work with.
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:05.359
You find the next thing, and then you find the next thing.
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:06.000
Yeah.
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:10.960
And even like, you know, your your your champions are fizzy, no one's ever perfect.
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:12.160
So they'd be doing the same thing.
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:13.759
It's like, okay, well, what can I fix next?
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:14.480
Doesn't exist.
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:17.279
Perfectionism so doesn't exist.
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:18.880
It it doesn't.
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:19.599
It doesn't.
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.759
And like people say, you know, practice makes perfect, but I I like where's perfect?
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:27.759
Fizy kind of feels like um the chase of perfection.
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:28.400
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:29.920
But it's uh it's uninsured.
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:31.759
And because it's such a subjective spot.
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:32.559
Yeah, exactly.
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:43.839
Yeah, like as you know, I mean, as a competitor and someone who's judged that idea of perfection in in my eyes is different to someone else who might judge the same flaw.
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:45.119
Because there's taste involved.
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:46.400
Yeah, because it's so subjective.
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:48.079
Yeah, that's so true.
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:57.039
You know, we we oh yeah, it's it's uh everyone have a nice long exhale after hearing that like, yeah, this is what we all signed up to, sister.
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:58.000
I know.
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:06.240
Alright, so there's been some main themes that came out of when we reached out to all the community and said, tell us your challenges.
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:10.880
Now, don't worry, people, we have recorded video of NATs.
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.759
There's heaps of video that we're gonna be able to release and show and everything like that.
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:20.400
But we thought we'd also just cover off the themes that we can kind of talk to on the podcast as well.
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:24.400
So, um, one of the main things that we had is around corners.
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:28.079
How we nail a corner, a lot of people falling out of corners.
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:31.680
Now, you gave us some really great advice on the video.
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:38.240
Um so I I myself just I don't know, it just happens.
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:43.599
I just take my corner, and there's been a few people in time that have sort of sat there and gone, what are you doing?
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:44.240
How do you do that?
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:45.119
What are you doing there?
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:52.799
Um and I I think I said this morning, there's been two um girls that I teach that have been able to master it, one of my ladies and one of my seniors.
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:59.759
Um and then one of my friends actually from Oak Hill Fizy Club, one of their teachers, she's like, The way you turn your corner, how do you do it?
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.279
I don't I don't really know.
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:05.440
But then when I was like, I'm gonna think about this and try and teach my girls how to do it.
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:13.920
Um to take out that bounce that a lot of us get in the corner, you know, we march, march, march, we're up and then we turn our corner and then we sort of step off it and keep going.
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:34.480
You don't want that to happen because you want your march to glide, like you're just sort of walking on water and nothing sort of breaks that um you I find that on that like sort of last three steps I start to rise up off the ground and hit that corner, and and that gives me my balance as I'm as I'm leaving the floor.
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:45.759
And then when I hit that corner, I've I've got my balance now because I've given myself the chance to get it as I'm slowly coming up to that corner, and as I've hit that corner, I'm able to turn it nice and controlled and then slowly turn it up.
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:54.000
Yeah, I'm getting up to climatizing tomatoes, guys.
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:56.799
I need to make a couple of days before I get up there.
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.000
You might, because you're a bloody Amazon warrior.
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:11.039
And yeah, I think it just gives you the chance to sort of you know get yourself also grounded.
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:11.359
Yeah.
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.000
And also make it look smooth.
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:22.000
So you're not going from this flat floor to this like sort of like jack in the box, kind of poking yourself out and then coming back out of it.
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:23.920
Yeah, no, you do need to take a bit of time.
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:25.200
Like I get that now.
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:27.519
Yeah, and it helps you not fall out of it.
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:32.079
So when you watch the video, if you haven't seen Nat do her corners, she shows us.
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:39.519
But you do like when you do the rise up and you're descending back down, it does help when you're not just so much falling straight out of it.
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:43.359
And it maintains that really nice like control.
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:43.920
Yeah.
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:52.160
Um it means you've also gotten up to the height that you need to get to so that you actually all you do is bring your arms in.
00:33:52.559 --> 00:34:03.920
Because when you go up and arms in at the same time, it looks because you're doing a few things there, but if you're doing one and then two, it's yeah, and everything kind of just happens.
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:12.400
You don't see this like definite because you get that some people write that they kind of like their arms in a bit like you know how EP do their corners out and then in.
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:13.119
Yeah, we try that.
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:14.159
They swing around their corner.
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.000
I was gonna say I've not ever been able to now that I've tried.
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:19.280
That's quite difficult.
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:27.280
But some people get that look happening, and I find if you can get this rise and fall, it stops that from semi-happening.
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:28.800
Because we can't do that in BJP, right?
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:29.840
That's not how we turn it out.
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:30.800
It's not the dumb thing.
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:38.559
Um it just kind of all sort of slowly happens and it just turns into this nice, you know, yeah, graceful.
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.440
But tip, don't leave your head to the front when you turn your head.
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:42.079
Oh, okay.
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:43.280
Someone asked this.
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.639
We are taking our everybody, we're taking our head.
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:47.519
Don't leave your head.
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:48.639
Do not leave your head.
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:50.239
They don't.
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:51.039
You heard it.
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.599
It's not like they don't like it.
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:55.519
They can see you already.
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:58.480
We know what you look like.
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.599
Yeah, you don't need to be pining after extra attention.
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:03.360
Oh, you looking at me.
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.079
If you have a good march, they can see you.
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:15.039
Um well, that's why I remember when you were saying, Oh, yeah, so I went to an interclub and at the end of it I was like, I thought I did really well.
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.719
I didn't even place and she didn't even body look at me the whole time.
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:23.440
And my my mate Beck goes, how do you know that she didn't look at you the whole time?
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:25.039
And I go, because I was looking at her.
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:27.840
Don't look at them.
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:31.119
She goes, Oh my god, you're not meant to look at the judges.
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:35.119
And I'm that's where you went, no one told me that.
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:39.679
And like as a person who's judged too, that someone looks at you and goes, Oh, they're looking at me.
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:40.480
Yes.
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:42.320
I'm not looking at you again.
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:44.400
I had no idea.
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.320
I thought we were all meant to be looking at the judges.
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:50.079
I thought everyone was looking at them.
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.119
I was the only one.
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:52.079
You were the only one.
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:52.960
Oh my god.
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.599
But yeah, don't turn your corner and look.
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.079
Don't turn your corner and look, that's what we're doing.
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:00.559
I reckon if you're in the A column, if you look at them.
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:01.679
Oh, sorry, see you later.
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:02.800
Oh, there you go.
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:06.719
We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna touch on judging at the end.
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.079
Um, okay.
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:09.760
Which you touched on this.
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:13.840
How do you s how we uh how are we perfecting smoothing our march?
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.079
How are we getting rid of the bounce?
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:18.400
What do you think it comes from?
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:24.079
Is it we gotta lock our Yeah, so lock visuals, right?
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:29.840
So I think I said to you guys this morning, I think of like bricks on my shoulders.
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.400
So lengthening here in my neck, making a big space here.
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:42.159
And I use the same visual from fives to ladies, blowing up their balloon in their neck, so pushing up this open space, bricks on their shoulders, and then really driving through the floor through your heels.
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:53.119
So even though you're stepping like forward through each step, and yes, your feet are gonna leave the floor, try and counteract a bit of weight through your back heels so you're not bouncing up out of that heel.
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:58.320
So as you're taking that step, the opposing foot still gets semi-grounded.
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:08.239
Or even if you're visualizing that it's pushing through the floor, it kind of automatically will because you're thinking about that and it'll push back and it stops you from being able to bounce out of it.
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:08.639
Yep.
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:17.519
Um, and a really like just fun you know activity to do when you're marching is put it pop a piece of paper on your head and march.
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:21.280
And if that piece of paper doesn't fall, then you've done it.
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:22.880
You've done a nice smooth march.
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.440
Try to bring in like reams of paper now.
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:29.760
I mean, you could do you could use you could use like a little beanbag or something, but that's heavy, so it's not gonna fall off.
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:31.440
No, yeah, it's like you want to.
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:33.039
You want something that could easily fall off.
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:36.320
Yeah, that'll just like puff of air and it'll fall off.
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:42.000
So pop a piece of paper in your head and then like just keep go like keep doing it over and over and over again.
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:46.559
And then if it's now not falling off, you know that you've you've got a nice smooth march.
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:48.960
And how do you do then that pull up?
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:50.880
You know, people like pull up.
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:52.239
Big bra works.
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:59.920
Big bra, and like air out of like if you pull up out of your hip bones, like to bring your your torso up, if that makes sense.
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.920
Um lots of lots of core.
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:08.320
Like it's all I think it's all in your core and it's yeah, and all in that neck.
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:13.119
Like I've really pushed my chin, push my neck up and out.
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:25.760
So, like I said this morning, find that join, like visualize your wall and your roof meeting, and find the join in that, find that corner, and if you project your chin up to that, you're pretty much going to be exactly where it needs to be.
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.079
And you don't need to be in a room that it's right in front of you, right?
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:31.440
If you just visualize that, you you're gonna meet the mark.
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:39.440
And then what like what is it about having your head up in that angle that's so visually pleasing, do you think?
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.840
It just keeps you in that nice line, right?
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:50.400
Like if you draw a line from the top of your head down to your heels, like yeah, the top of your head's in line with the top of your ears, which is then in line with your shoulders, in line with your hips, in line with your feet.
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:52.800
It just looks so visually appealing.
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:56.559
Like if you if your chins forward and your necks forward, it breaks that line.
00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:00.719
Yeah, the second you put it up and pull your neck back, it's all in line.
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:04.800
Yeah, um, which when we practiced this morning, it was so visually pleasing.
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:07.039
Oh, I haven't seen it yet.
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:11.599
Oh, you wait, you're gonna find yourself, you're just gonna just jizz over your phone.
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:17.280
It was so you were like it's very, it's very looked at it.
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:19.199
It's very nice to look at in the world.
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:24.639
Like it's it's it's beautiful to look at, and then as soon as you move, it's quite hard to then hold it.
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:31.039
Yeah, we said we're just gonna hold it like that till it's like that's why like it's really important to like I said this morning, you sort of break it down from here.
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:32.480
Yes, yeah, yeah.
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:33.599
And then to here.
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:35.440
Because there's so much to think about, right?
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:39.519
Like it's like this is enough in itself, because then when this starts to move, this goes, oh.
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:51.920
Well, I said, I said when I was in the right position, I was like, let's weekend burning this and just put me on a dolly and wheel me into zone or stay in position for the rest of the year.
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:56.719
Not perfected for me's stance, and she's like, now what?
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:57.280
Now what?
00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:57.920
I can't do it.
00:39:58.239 --> 00:39:59.760
I'm not gonna move up in a couple more.
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:02.239
We'll be back soon.
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:06.159
Not from Edelong Public School in a few months.
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.880
All right, back arm swing.
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:19.360
I don't like never thought about this ever until I started fizzy, and I have never thought about the the trajectory and the height that my back arm has to go.
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:20.079
Yeah, and I'm walking.
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.639
It doesn't always do the same job as the front arm.
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:23.519
What the hell?
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:23.840
Yeah.
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.360
When you put it like that, it makes marching sound like the strangest concept.
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:29.280
It is the strangest concept, though, isn't it?
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:37.840
If someone had no idea what fizzy was and they walked in to us marching, it's this whole group of women dressed up walking around a room dancing.
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:41.440
That's all anyone talks about when you go.
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:43.519
Yeah, like do you guys do that marching thing?
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:43.920
I'm not sure.
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:46.079
But yes, we do.
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:47.199
And it's really hard.
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:48.480
It's really hard.
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.760
I always say, and there's five dances after that march.
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:53.280
It's not just marching well.
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:55.920
Even though marching looks silly, it's the hardest one we do as well.
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:56.960
Yeah, and it's so hard.
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:58.480
They're like, but you're just walking around in a square.
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:00.320
I'm like, oh, we're finally doing it.
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:02.000
Go for it.
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:03.760
Go have fun and see if you can do away.
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:06.719
You'll be able to after taking it.
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:08.880
Alright, so how are we doing this?
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:10.079
So, how are we doing this?
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.960
Okay, so everything in busy is your shapes and lines.
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:17.920
So everything's got to have a nice line, everything's got to make a shape, and primarily all the shapes you make are triangles.
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:20.400
So they love it.
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:21.360
Like everything you're doing.
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:22.480
Sick for a triangle.
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:24.400
Someone was really excited about it.
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:26.000
They're triangles.
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.880
So when you make a triangle one way, you want it to look the same the other.
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:34.639
You don't want to have like lopsided.
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:35.280
I get it.
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.639
You know, especially say say like forget marching for a second.
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:39.599
Say you're at hips firm.
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:42.960
You don't want your hips firm triangle to be like this on one side and like that on another.
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:43.840
Yeah, okay.
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.360
So if you bring if you bring it back to marching, you want to be the same front and back.
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:50.639
Symmetrical.
00:41:51.599 --> 00:42:01.119
So which means if you um like explained this morning, if you swing forward and use your thumb as the point to find your hip, then you're gonna be too low.
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.320
You want your pinky to be at the level of your hip, right?
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:09.280
But then if you swing that back and use your pinky to find your hip, you're gonna be too low.
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.159
Yeah, you want your thumb to find your hip because they're in different places.
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:16.239
But because you're in the front, you it it's it's gonna be different.
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:17.920
You need to come that little bit further up.
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:18.400
Up.
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.119
And then if you're gonna be at the back, you need to come a little bit further up.
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:22.079
Do you know what's so funny?
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:27.599
When you were telling me this this morning, showing me I was not understanding this, and now I get it what you're saying.
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.400
Well, I'm I'm where you were right then, which also.
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.880
No, it makes sense that you're saying the height of your hip.
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.440
Yeah, the height of and the height of your hand.
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:38.559
So, like You are not following.
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.119
Forget your bit.
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:42.559
Forget that bit.
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:48.960
But your thumb and I'm thinking and I'm talking about the the the pinch and making your triangles match.
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:49.199
Yeah.
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.000
So when you do hips firm, your triangles have to match.
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:54.960
When you do marching, your triangles have to match.
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.039
Front and back in your arm swing, right?
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:01.360
So this triangle matches if my pinky's in line with my hip at the front.
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:03.199
But if I it heightwise.
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:09.519
But if I was to swing my arm back and line up my pinky with my hip at the back, it wouldn't be the same triangle height wise.
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:15.760
So I need to push my hand back a little bit further to have my thumb in line with my hip.
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:18.159
So then height wise, the triangles now match.
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:20.880
That's why I said everyone's got to get out of like a protractor.
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:22.480
Oh my god.
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.159
Yeah, mind blown.
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:24.719
Yes.
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:25.920
Wow.
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:29.599
Because if you don't, like that's that's like, you know, the width of your hands.
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:30.639
That's that much different.
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:33.119
It's getting your arm quite a fair way back.
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:36.079
It's you have to push your arm back further than you think you do.
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.199
So I'm I'm always on my girl, I was like, swing back further, swing back further.
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:40.239
Yeah, further, further.
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:41.280
And they're like, Oh, isn't that too far?
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:42.000
I'm like, nope.
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:43.280
Because that's a lot.
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:44.239
Yeah, it's a lot.
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.239
It's like a good, what, it's an inch?
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:47.440
You know, maybe ten centimetres.
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:47.920
Inch.
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:49.039
How old are you?
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:55.039
Christian Bajolky Peterson.
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:57.599
We used to drink together.
00:43:57.840 --> 00:43:58.480
Oh my god,
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:03.760
It's mind being.
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:04.000
Yeah.
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:09.599
But once you kind of un yeah, once you've explained it and you understand it, then you'd be more mindful of it, right?
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:13.440
So it's and probably doing in front of like a m well, you can't really do it in front of a mirror.
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:14.159
You probably have to recall.
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:19.920
It's sort of kind of what you said today when we were talking, you were like, if it feels silly, you're probably doing it right.
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:21.840
And that's where it applies.
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:26.320
And it and you know, if you if you then change something right and then you start doing it right, it's gonna feel silly.
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:27.840
It's like that's because now you're doing it right.
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:28.159
Yeah.
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:30.320
Well, what an unlock.
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:35.519
Even even just even just to be just like open to know.
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:40.159
Yeah, like if you feel like this is ridiculous, you've actually nailed it.
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:40.480
Yeah.
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:42.480
Everyone feels stupid, that's the whole point.
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.199
I'm gonna go to class in a different vibe this week.
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.840
Oh, you got I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do that.
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:50.559
Your teacher's gonna think like you're marching in grand.
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.360
Oh, watch out, Julia.
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:55.519
She's gonna be like, what having these two?
00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.000
We didn't tell her either, so maybe we should just rock up and just see what she says.
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:02.719
If she says something, we'll text you.
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:03.519
Yeah, we'll let you know.
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:04.320
What happened?
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:05.679
What about you two?
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.039
Yeah, I know, hopefully.
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:10.719
We've been like we've been frozen like this since Saturday.
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:11.920
We haven't moved.
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:12.880
We haven't moved.
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:14.239
Um, facials.
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:15.039
Yeah.
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:16.800
What are we doing with that face?
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:19.119
Uh pleasant.
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:19.840
Pleasant's.
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.159
Um, okay, I Simpson's face.
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:23.280
So this this morning.
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:28.880
So Simpson characters have this like pleasant look on their face when they're not talking or they're not smiling.
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.119
It's like this little cheesy grin.
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:32.079
Yeah.
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:34.400
What did you say this morning, Renee?
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.360
You were like, um I called it a smile.
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:38.079
Smise.
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:44.000
No, didn't you say you were like a cheeky, you're like, I've no Oh, um, I know something you don't know.
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:46.559
Yeah, like I know something you don't know.
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:48.559
No, but we're not we don't because we don't show teeth.
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:49.840
No, you never smile with your teeth.
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:51.360
Never smile without tea.
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:53.519
Like looking at them when you're marching, don't smile with your teeth.
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:54.480
Don't smile with your teeth.
00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:01.760
You're just doing a you know and you're walking around like, um, I've got a little secret.
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:03.119
I've got tea.
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:04.480
Wait, shall I tea?
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:05.760
I've got tea.
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:06.800
I've got tea.
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:12.800
It's like when you're sitting across the lunch, like the the table in the lunchroom with your friend, and you're like, Oh my god, I've got tea.
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:13.760
I've got tea for you.
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:14.239
I love it.
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:14.719
There we go.
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:17.360
I can make that face real easy.
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:20.079
I'm a master at that face.
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:20.880
Like that one.
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:25.360
Or like when when the person walks in and you're like, you know.
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:26.960
So that's what we're doing.
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:29.440
And clench your teeth, because then you can't smile.
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:30.880
Clench your teeth?
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:34.639
Yeah, cubs tells us she puts um gummy bears in her.
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.840
I've done Tic Tacs, but that's so my that's so my mouth doesn't get dry.
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:39.679
Oh, yeah, something to suck on.
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:40.079
And I've got to be.
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.599
I've had them in my bra before and like whack change lines.
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:44.400
Yeah, nice.
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:47.840
I'm getting we're getting uh showing.
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:50.159
It's like a merry pocket.
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:51.679
People are doing mouth sprays well.
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.000
I meant to I don't think that would fit in my bra.
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:59.679
Like, no, before you go out, there's a like a mouth spray, apparently, you can do from the chemist.
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:01.119
Dry mouth spray.
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:03.280
Oh yeah, it's probably made for old people.
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:10.239
Tic tacks work pretty well, but you just gotta know where to find them so you're not like just chopping down there, like digging your head.
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:12.239
Discreen.
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:13.920
No, absolutely.
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:18.480
Alright, we briefly spoke about head positioning, but let's talk about it in a little bit more detail.
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:21.280
So we're doing the balloon.
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:25.679
Yeah, so blow up your balloons the best visual to or show your lipstick.
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:28.960
Like all little girls love to be like, I've got lipstick on.
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.119
So like point your lipstick at the judges.
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:31.599
Oh.
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:34.000
Like, look at this, like this is beautiful.
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:35.280
I like that, you know?
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:36.719
Or like open your heart.
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:38.000
Because instantly if you felt like that.
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:42.079
Yes, it's just expanding.
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:44.400
Um, but the balloon theory does work really well.
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:49.840
Like, if you picture this balloon forcing your neck up, forcing your neck and I like that.
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:51.440
It puts it makes you lift it.
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:57.760
It does because like I'm like, oh my gosh, this balloon is blowing up in like and then I say to the little ones, I'm like, don't let it pop.
00:47:57.920 --> 00:47:58.079
Yeah.
00:47:58.239 --> 00:47:59.360
I'm like, don't let it pop.
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:06.320
Yeah, it's also like open your heart for someone like me whose brain isn't that well connected to their body.
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:09.519
I could definitely be that but you're like, I wouldn't stick in.
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:14.159
Like the balloon to me makes me really think that my chin needs to be.
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:18.559
And then if I say to like even the ladies love it, it's like, don't pop it, don't let it pop, it's like, okay.
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:21.280
Pang station.
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:23.599
If that means get a balloons, you absolutely won't let it bow.
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:25.280
Sounds like keepy uppy.
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.239
I thought it was keepy uppy.
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.360
We're playing a game of keepy uppy from blueing.
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:34.800
I love blueing.
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.519
But but if you can master that chin and neckline, it just makes it uh so much more appealing.
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:40.320
Oh, it does.
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:40.800
It does.
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:44.960
It looks so and it's because it's the first thing that they see, right?
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:56.320
When you're standing on the corner ready to march, when they've watched that first person take off, if you've got that neck and that face in a in a in a prime position, it instantly draws them in.
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:59.920
And and what was it you were telling us this morning about what Fiona is?
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.880
Yes, I was a lot of people have been asking about confidence.
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:04.800
How you get the confidence, so talk to us.
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:07.519
You had some really Yeah, yeah.
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.400
So either you you trick them, right?
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:15.280
You you say to yourself, Well, even if I don't believe it, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell them I fake it till I make it.
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:18.239
Yeah, fake it make it basically, like I am the best one here.
00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:25.679
And as a as a judge, if even if you don't think that, but you're you're telling us that, I'm gonna believe it, whether it's true or not.
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:27.280
It's like it's written all over your face.
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:27.679
Yep.
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:28.960
So fake it make it.
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:29.360
Yep.
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:35.199
Um or Fiona Joe, which I'm sure everyone in the fizzy world, well most people in the fizzy world know who knows.
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:36.800
She's incredible.
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.840
Um, she's come and done quite a few workshops with us.
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:45.440
Um and I've done fizzy for such a long time, and I'd never thought of it like this.
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:50.880
And she said, She's like, you know, you you might getting up to your corner to march, whether you're first or last.
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:55.199
She's like, you're gonna say to yourself, she's like, You've seen the rest, now you're gonna see the best.
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:56.800
You put your head up and you take off.
00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:00.639
And I might instantly I just went it is there, yeah.
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:01.360
Oh my god.
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:02.880
That really connected with me.
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:16.480
And it did, and as soon as she said it, I was like, Oh wow, wow! And I'm such like an internal dialogue person, so like I will tell, like, if I can tell myself something, I'll I'll I I'll be able to convince myself.
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:21.840
So I did, I used that the last time I competed as a lady at Nationals, and it and it worked.
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:25.440
I was like, absolutely like, and as soon as I stepped up, I was like, I've got this.
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:27.679
You must just feel so confident.
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:29.440
I I did all because of that.
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:30.880
So you're amazing.
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:35.280
So you actually, when you march out, you actually feel confident.
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:35.840
I did.
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:37.280
Normally I don't.
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:38.239
See, normally I don't.
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:39.599
I'm a very nervous competitor.
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:41.440
Very nervous.
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:42.880
I would never have picked that.
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.519
Yeah, like I'm like a sh like shaking on the floor.
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:47.280
Wow, me too.
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:49.199
That makes me feel so much better.
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:50.800
I fell over because of the shit.
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:54.159
Oh, I I like mimosas aren't required all morning.
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:57.519
Like fast on mimosas.
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.000
And so you were just like just channel that.
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:12.239
And when she told me that, uh I was it was probably the the best I ever felt when I took this first marching step because I was like, it something something in it just made me go, I've got this.
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:12.719
Yeah.
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:16.719
And I I I I did, I guess I felt really good.
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:21.920
There is a big difference between actually feeling confident and faking it till you make it.
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:22.719
100%.
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:31.599
It might visually look the same, but on the inside, I wouldn't I I mean the goal is to get to confidence.
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:50.400
Yeah, and as far as like I suppose successes went, like you know, I've done like got a higher place than I did that year, I'd say, like, oh, you know, than I did, but I felt so good on that first step in my march, all because of this one thing she'd said, and it was the next time that I competed, you know, on such a big scale scale.
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.000
Um and yeah, it it just it just worked.
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:58.480
Whereas normally I am such a yeah, she wants to be gold back.
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.000
But um give everyone a nickname.
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:07.280
It was um it was, it was a moment where I just went, wow, like I I can do this.
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:14.480
And you were telling us a really and this is gonna um resonate, I think, for a lot of people, especially for this little one over here.
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:24.559
You were telling us the story how you um tripped a bit at a little bit at zone on your march, yeah, down onto your hands too.
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:26.719
Well, that one was state.
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:36.320
Um but yes, at Zone, I was in the final and my sister was marching behind me, and I've got this on video.
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:46.320
One of the people from our club was filming the final, and mind you, it was it was um like the following year when we were still kind of in COVID, so like there wasn't that many people competing again.
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:48.480
So I think our final had like nine people in it.
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:50.239
Oh wow so there wasn't many on the floor.
00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:51.840
So everyone saved the floor.
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:53.280
Everyone saw it.
00:52:55.280 --> 00:53:00.159
Um so and also I was the only one in leotard.
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:01.920
Everyone was in titles.
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.760
I had leotard and no fishnets or anything on just leotard.
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:14.159
And I've marched across the back and I've turned the corner to march down the front, and I I tripped and like I stumbled, and then I I did pick it up.
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:20.559
But on the video that I've got in the background, they go, Oh, ooh, that's a bad chief.
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:31.360
In my head, I also went, oh because it's poor poor Renee, because it's always like good to hear these kind of stories.
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:36.960
So people like you who've, you know, won over and you all your your cups and stuff.
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:38.639
It's like and what is still trip.
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:42.480
Yeah, and then you went on and to have great success the following year, didn't you?
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:46.639
Well, yeah, I I got second at Zone that day, and then I won Nationals a few weeks later.
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:54.800
Oh, it might have been like I think it might have been a couple of weeks later Nationals was because we that was when we did the two seasons in the one year.
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:56.719
We did Nationals and Zone.
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:00.079
Remember back it was in the January, and then we did No idea.
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:07.920
And then we did it all again later that year because they fit two national in the one year.
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:09.039
It was crazy.
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.159
So did you coach the really good thing?
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:13.119
Who won?
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:13.760
Did you?
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:19.119
Whoever won the cup, oh this thing is so heavy.
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:23.360
The fact that you had to carry three of these puppies, I just find so ludicrous.
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:24.159
But anyway.
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:31.519
So the person who won this, then did they earlier like have the title for like three months and then the next person was like?
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:33.679
Um, when was it?
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:39.920
They won it in the February, I think it was, or the January, and then I won it in the October.
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:40.880
Gipped.
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:41.840
Yeah, chipped.
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:44.639
I think it was Sally.
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:46.079
Yeah, yeah, it was Sally.
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:47.440
Oh, Sal's a pretty good sport.
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:49.519
Sal's a good sport.
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:51.440
She's a good sport, but you're gyp Sal.
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:53.280
He only got like a couple of months out of that.
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:54.000
Poor thing.
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:54.960
I would have given it back.
00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:58.400
I'd be like, no, this is a 12-month thing.
00:54:58.480 --> 00:54:59.119
Thank you very much.
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:03.840
I can imagine how hard it would have been to be good at fizzy in COVID as well.
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:04.639
It was so hard.
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:08.480
I remember practicing in my lounge room, like, you know, it was it was tough.
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.079
You didn't have anyone really for corrections for such a long time.
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:14.400
And we did Zoom like classes with each other.
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:16.000
That's not so hard.
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:20.880
Well, and the state year that I fell and touched the ground.
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:26.559
Um there was no one in the audience except our teachers with masks on, so you couldn't even see their faces.
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:29.199
So it was this truth because they already been there.
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:32.719
You couldn't see them go, ooh, dude, that's a badge.
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:39.840
It was across the front in front of Jackie and I forget who else was judging, but my chances were gone from the second that happened.
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:41.679
Like I should have just walked off the floor.
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:45.599
Um marched off the floor to try and redeem myself.
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:48.480
Perfectly.
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:51.440
Well, that's what happened to you at Zone where you marched out on the wrong place.
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.920
Stepped out on the right and um let's be honest.
00:55:56.239 --> 00:56:02.800
But I I got back to the seats after sitting and waiting for not getting through to the next round.
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:04.239
Shock horror.
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:05.679
Shock horror.
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:14.480
And um, I sat down next to my best mate, and I go, Oh my god, I totally fucked the bloody cardio.
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:15.920
I went the wrong way.
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:18.800
She goes, No, you fucked it way before that.
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:20.000
You stepped out on the riot.
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:22.960
Did you not even know?
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:25.679
No, she told me.
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:28.880
And it goes, no, you fucked it way earlier than that.
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.039
You marched out on the right, you bone it.
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:32.559
You didn't know that.
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:41.679
And you go back and watch a video and go, oh and so actually I thank her for that because I then I didn't feel as bad about the mistake I made in the cardio.
00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:45.119
Because I was like, she was already out, no one was watching.
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:49.360
Actually, speaking of mistakes, I when I won grand.
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:51.119
I have to whisper that.
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:53.119
I'm in an issue.
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:58.559
So when I won grand, I'm I won grand in my dream.
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:03.039
And everyone would be like, fuck and shh shut up, we know.
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.519
Thank god I have looked at a tattoo.
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:11.679
Tad on your forehead.
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:12.960
On one grand.
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.760
I'm really good at physics.
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:17.039
100.
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:18.559
No, sorry, we digressed.
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:24.639
I was doing the dance and I I made a mistake, but I just pulled it off so well that it must have been.
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:25.519
No one noticed.
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:27.679
Do anything with confidence.
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:28.000
Yeah.
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:34.320
My sister said to me, she's watching obviously the video back that night, and she she's like, uh, do you realize you fucked up the dance?
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:35.440
I was like, well, it didn't matter.
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:37.199
It really didn't matter.
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:39.760
I made it look really good.
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:40.880
Like, fuck yeah.
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:42.239
I improved it.
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:43.599
I improved the dance.
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:44.639
That's what it was.
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:45.760
I've got a question.
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:46.559
Yeah.
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:50.639
How important in judging is the march?
00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:51.679
Like, let's be honest.
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:52.880
Do you really get written off?
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:53.760
Do you get written off?
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:54.320
Absolutely.
00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:56.800
There you go.
00:57:56.960 --> 00:57:58.559
People have been speculating.
00:57:58.960 --> 00:57:59.679
No, for sure.
00:57:59.920 --> 00:58:00.719
How does it work?
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.199
Like when because I can appreciate as a judge, if you're like, you're trying to watch 15 people.
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:08.159
You gotta count people out slowly.
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:09.920
You gotta know what you're doing firstly.
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:15.519
Um as a as a shit on bag with your majority of the day.
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:16.719
We don't know.
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:17.440
Don't do it.
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:21.679
Um no, look, the first like four to six counts matter the most.
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:23.280
Four to what?
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:25.679
The first four to six.
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:28.400
Four to six counts matter the most time walk in.
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:28.800
Yeah.
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:32.400
That's the first four to six when you take a rest of four.
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:37.840
And I remind my girls every single time that they march in class, first four to six, or I ask them how many counts matter?
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:39.199
First four to six.
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:41.360
It's like running into their head now.
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:44.320
So that when you're doing that line down the back.
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:49.360
So you get in that zone before the music starts and remember four to six.
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:51.519
But by the piano judge, you've seen the rest?
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:52.800
I see the best, I am the best.
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:58.320
But by the time you've hit that back wall, decisions have already been made.
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.280
And honestly, there everyone judges a little bit differently.
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:03.519
Yeah.
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:05.119
Like everyone's system's different.
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:05.360
Yeah.
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:10.079
Um but you sort of generally have your sort of like A, B, C sort of category.
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:10.960
Oh, you have columns.
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:12.639
Well, if you judge like it, yes.
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:16.960
Some people don't, some people have tallies, scores, whatever.
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:18.480
Because it's so subjective.
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:21.119
Like teens are different to individual judging scores.
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:22.480
Yeah.
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:25.760
Um but again, everything's subjective.
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:26.239
Yeah.
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:33.119
But if you if you've made it into the A sort of side, they'll keep watching.
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:35.519
Yeah, they'll they'll keep coming back to you.
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:39.519
A backup from a C Nah, like from a B.
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:41.760
Making your life a B call into A back up.
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:42.159
Yeah.
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:43.440
So don't write, like, don't worry.
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:44.880
Don't write yourself off too much.
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:48.800
Like you know, if you fall over and touch the ground, you're done.
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:51.360
I'm out of here.
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:53.760
But you can you can redeem yourself, you know.
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:57.840
Like some some people are those typical people that get better as they're on the floor.
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:04.000
Like there's those people that come out with like a ball in nerves, and by the exercises or contemporary, they're they've settled in a bit.
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:05.840
So then by the next round, they're good.
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:08.079
Right.
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:25.440
So you know, like when you do it in class, and we'll come back to judging, but you know, like when you're you've done the like this is kind of how we do it, you do your march at the start, and then you're going through your routine, and then we've got like usually the seniors are on after us, and then we're like, okay, well, we'll just do their march, but you are so much better.
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:27.199
Oh, warmed up.
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:29.039
You're warmed up, yeah.
01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:29.519
Right?
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:31.760
So you've been in the mode for an hour.
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:39.119
Yeah, so would you say on comp day, as would you recommend people, you know, like people doing run throughs and stuff like that.
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:42.239
Are we are we drilling marching out the back?
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:43.679
No, not necessarily.
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:51.280
I just think you need to find how to get yourself into that zone, into that zone, whether it be you know confidence or running motion.
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:53.920
Whether it be like listening to fizzy music or music.
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:56.320
Physically warming up, yeah, warming up.
01:00:56.400 --> 01:01:03.679
You don't want to warm up too much though, because you don't want to exhaust yourself, so you want to stretch your dynamic stretching, not your static stretching.
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:08.800
Because if you do your long, slow um stretching, you're gonna exhaust yourself.
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.679
So you want to do quick, sharp, fast stretching.
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.880
Um it's not what I do.
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:16.880
Yeah, it's more about warming your body up.
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:18.559
Yeah, so crap.
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:19.920
We're doing everything.
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:21.519
We're doing everything opposite.
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:23.039
We had a makeup session last night.
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:25.519
I've literally been doing my makeup like the 90s.
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:27.119
I'm like far out.
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:29.280
Okay, so we're getting in the zone.
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:29.679
Yeah.
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:30.719
We are lining up.
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:31.440
Talk us through.
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:33.360
We are lining up.
01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:33.760
Right.
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.079
Renee's at the front, I'm at the back.
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:37.280
You're a bitch.
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:38.639
You're lucky if you're in the middle of the back.
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:39.920
You're lucky if you're at the back.
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:41.920
Yeah, if you've got time to get in the zone, right?
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:44.559
Like if I'm if I'm further down the line, like my head's down.
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:51.039
As soon as I come out of as soon as I've come out of that cur from that curtain, I no one else is in that room.
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:55.760
You know, like picture yourself, you a dark room, and there's just this little spotlight on you.
01:01:56.079 --> 01:01:57.280
There's no one else around.
01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.960
Um, you're dancing to the to the light, to not an audience, right?
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:02.320
Head down.
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:08.559
And uh as I'm getting closer to the front of the line, it's like with every step, I've caught the beat of the music first.
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:14.320
If you're at the front of the line, you need to sort of catch that with very quickly, you know?
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:14.960
And gender.
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:17.199
I don't have much option with that.
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:18.960
I have to just be like go.
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.559
So it's it's it is a bit more beneficial, I suppose, if you're at the back of your face.
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:23.760
Oh hundred percent.
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:24.480
Oh, what a big thing.
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:25.920
Yeah, we don't have to march as long.
01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:27.840
Oh, another one.
01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:32.719
Um and then all puffed out because of your little legs.
01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:34.000
Shut it.
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:42.239
Um, and then I am such a like, you know, I'll just quickly clock over what I've got to go through, or I find one word that just switches me on.
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:46.320
So one word or one thing that makes everything activate.
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:49.920
So it's like whatever I've found that makes me go right, you're in it.
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:50.320
Yep.
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:51.280
Turns it all on.
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:56.000
Um, and then maybe three or four people away from the front, my head's up and it's go time.
01:02:56.239 --> 01:03:02.000
Whereas if you're the first one, like if you're at the front, then you've got to find that before you take the floor.
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:03.360
And you've got to do it on your own.
01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:03.760
Yeah, you can't.
01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:05.360
You can't be relying on looking at other codes.
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:06.719
And don't psych yourself out, right?
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:07.519
Because your brain's clever.
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:14.079
Like if you've already like if so many people, if they get Yeah, you tell yourself that story that you're the first one out and it's so hard.
01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:17.840
Because you draw your your place for the marching.
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:20.800
Like not necessarily tallest or shortest.
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:21.599
Oh, okay.
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:25.519
Um, sometimes they do it that way, but generally you draw your your your order.
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:30.880
Um, and so many people, as soon as they draw that first one out, they psych themselves out.
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:34.800
Don't do that because whether you're first or last, you still have to march.
01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:35.760
Still gonna march.
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.239
And it's still that four first four to six.
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:41.039
And that's it, and you're still gonna be the person on the corner.
01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:45.440
Whether you're first or whether you're last, and you're still gonna be the person that they're looking at.
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:46.000
Yeah.
01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:47.840
Yeah, so you because that's what they're doing, right?
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:49.039
They're waiting for you to do that.
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:53.920
And once you've left the corner and you've done your first four to six counts, they've forgotten about you till you come back around.
01:03:54.159 --> 01:04:02.000
You could also see because they've got to watch 15 to well, there's normally 18 on the floor at the time at one time, right, on that floor.
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:04.960
So they've got to watch another 17 other girls.
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:12.079
So once they've watched the first one, they're watching all the other girls so they can get their numbers down, sort themselves out, and then they're back onto the rest.
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:12.480
Right.
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:13.920
So just nail it nail that.
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:14.880
So nail it.
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:19.440
And also don't like yourself out that you're the first one because Well, it's an opportunity, isn't it?
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:20.000
It is a opportunity.
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:24.639
If you if you see it that way, you say, Well, they might not even look at anyone else if I do it really well.
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:27.039
Well, and that's and I have said I have said that to my girls too.
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:30.079
I'm like, if you've really impressed them, Opera House is a good example, right?
01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:33.679
You've you've got eight counts across that stage before you turn and march away.
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:37.599
But if the next person isn't overly impressive, they're gonna watch you before the third one comes out.
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:49.599
They're gonna forget about their second person's eight counts, because if their first four counts, I suppose, haven't been that impressive, they're gonna turn back to this one that's now marching away from them before the the next eight counts start.
01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:52.239
So still never let it down, still never stop.
01:04:52.719 --> 01:05:01.760
So don't just get over and go, just just like I'll just trip over and touch the floor, like punch back a Notre Dame through the rest of it.
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:12.320
Or touch the floor, like yeah, touch the floor, and okay, and then um actually a a question that someone had was how do you know you know when you stop, right?
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:16.480
The music never is Oh, it always ends in a funny spot.
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:19.920
It either ends really abruptly or just not at all.
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:23.199
Yeah, and you're like, let it end.
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:28.000
Do we want to be stopping right when the music like you literally cannot hear it?
01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:29.280
It's done, it's over.
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.559
I I'm more of a fan of like don't stop before the music.
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:34.639
Is there anything you guys want to know?
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:36.320
Anything else you want to know?
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:40.800
I mean, that first four to eight counts was an absolute mind blow.
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:45.679
And I think it does, it changes the perspective for people too, realizing like that that sets the tone, right?
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:46.559
Like that Yeah.
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:50.400
Go out like guns blazing, do not muck around.
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:52.480
But really make the impression.
01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:54.559
Yeah, like I mean business, right?
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:55.360
This shit matters.
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:59.679
And and you're not like I think a lot of people are convinced the whole market.
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:02.320
I mean the whole march does matter.
01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:05.119
It does, but you've got to go out guns blazing.
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:06.239
Don't warm up to it.
01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:12.639
Even though marching is very like, you know, regimented and and in a way kind of plain.
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:14.400
You still need to have expression.
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.039
You still need to have musicality just in a different way.
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:21.920
Um so don't sort of park everything aside in your like too much.
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:22.320
Yeah.
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Still use all your elements that you you you use in fizzy in your marching.
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:28.320
It's just using them in a different way.
01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:28.800
Yeah.
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:33.119
Um because again, we march to so many different styles of music.
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:33.360
Yeah.
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:35.599
You need to be able to adapt to all of those.
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:40.159
But you need your expression, you need your musicality to be able to do that.
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:41.840
You need your Simpson smile.
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:46.000
I have one full one final question about marching.
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:58.880
If you're lucky enough, if you're at Zone or wherever, and um or nationals, and you get to do, you know, the semi-final march out or the final march out before you actually start.
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.159
People say the judges aren't really looking at that march.
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:02.960
Are they?
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:04.159
Definitely not.
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:05.360
Oh, they're not, they don't care.
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:06.159
No, not at all.
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:06.800
Oh, great.
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:06.960
Okay.
01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:07.840
Absolutely not.
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:10.880
You could fall in, you could do a hands down and walk on your hands.
01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:15.039
Because people are like waving and they're like, I'm like, are they watching you?
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:15.280
No.
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:16.320
They're not clocking you.
01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:16.800
Not at all.
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:17.440
They're like, I don't care.
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:25.519
You're too busy like sorting out, you know, your your papers and getting ready for because when when they finish that much, the first heat's at the end ready to tuck.
01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:27.519
Like, you know, they're tucked onto the end, ready to start.
01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:28.800
So you've got to be ready to go.
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Enjoy it.
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:34.719
Yeah, so you're just discussing with your co-judge, like, you know, where we're at, how we're gonna start.
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:40.239
You've already sort of remembered what you've judged from the rounds before, who's in that heat where you're sort of going from.
01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:41.760
So do what you want.
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:44.480
It must be exhausting being a judge.
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Especially when you're sitting on the table and you're like, everyone's watching.
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:50.159
Oh everyone's watching, yeah.
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:50.559
Yeah.
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:55.280
You can't even make a facial like a legit one.
01:07:55.760 --> 01:08:00.400
And you definitely can't like be writing and go with your pen or like look or point.
01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:02.320
Everything's discreet.
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:11.679
Like you're trying not to talk, you're trying not to make too much eye contact because then if one of the competitors looks at you, you're trying not to move too much because you'll distract the girls.
01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:15.599
And like you don't want to make you don't want to crack any jokes because you do not want to laugh between the each other.
01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:19.119
Oh I'll cut all this stuff out so you can.
01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:20.960
Just think that you're laughing at them.
01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:24.319
I wouldn't I wouldn't do that to you to leave this part of it in here.
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:26.960
Yes, that's that's one you've got to be careful with.
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:28.079
Like they think you're laughing at them.
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:29.119
Like, yeah, that's the same thing.
01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:30.960
You could be laughing about anything.
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:31.279
Yeah.
01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:37.680
But yeah, if I was on the floor and I saw you laughing, I'd be like, oh fuck, what have I done?
01:08:39.439 --> 01:08:45.520
It's it's nice though, like I mean, judging's hard, but it's also like it gives you a whole different perspective of physician.
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.720
And I think that and I think that really helped change physi for me too.
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:54.079
Like when I started sort of seeing things from that side of it too, being like, Oh, that's what I need to do.
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:58.000
Like I I was never um like that great at it.
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:01.279
Like I was never that good of a martyr or never that that great.
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:02.800
Until you became a judge.
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:04.640
Yeah, and also a teacher.
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:06.399
Yeah, yeah.
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:07.600
Yeah.
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:20.319
Um, you know, teaching my girls really put it into perspective for me because it made me stop and and really think about my own technique and my own execution because I'm wanting them to execute it perfectly, right?
01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:24.880
And I want them to have the expression that I'm visualising.
01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:27.439
So I'm like, well, I need to be doing that too.
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:28.319
Yeah, honey.
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:30.319
You know, my sister taught me for years, right?
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:33.920
She's like, you know, stand in front of my face and she's like, you need to do it like this.
01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:35.359
How old is your sister?
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:38.239
Uh she is 1990.
01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:38.640
What's that?
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:40.000
She's turning 36 this year.
01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:40.640
Oh, okay.
01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:40.800
Yeah.
01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:42.399
She's still a baby girl too.
01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:46.239
Yeah, but like, you know, she'd be up in my face and moving with me.
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:50.640
She's like, You need to do this, and I just never really understood it.
01:09:50.720 --> 01:10:00.880
Like, she she taught me, she pretty much she I'd say taught me everything that I know, but it wasn't until I was then on that sort of teaching that I was like, that's what she means.
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:01.199
Yeah.
01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:02.079
That's how I do it.
01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:10.640
And that's when I really started to succeed, was because then I was able to really put that into play because I'm like, now I know what she means.
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:13.439
I'm visualizing it for myself.
01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:13.920
Yeah.
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:20.000
I'm because I tried to explain it to someone else, and in that process I taught myself what I was trying to write to the same thing.
01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:21.039
That's why it's really useful.
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:37.600
Um, not for like a the purpose of you know judging your friends or making anyone feel like inferior, but I think it's really like a positive thing when you sort of go, right, 13s and 14s, you sit down on the stage, 15 first years, let's hop up and you do a run through.
01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:38.640
We're gonna watch you.
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:44.000
Then those 13s and 14s can go, oh, that's what they're doing, or that's how their their fizzy's looking like.
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:45.039
I'm gonna try that too.
01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:46.239
And then you swap it.
01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:53.520
So it gives them a little bit of pressure, gives them a little bit of another perspective because they're seeing what I'm seeing, they're seeing you know, different type of fizzy.
01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:54.079
And you change that.
01:10:54.399 --> 01:11:00.560
Actually, we we do that sometimes at the end of our year at um our club, we'll watch the seniors, yeah.
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:06.720
Yeah, and then you go back out and do yours, and it's like you've got to do it in the moment.
01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:14.800
Like you could sit there and watch fizzy all day and go to class next week, and it's not fresh enough to take on anything in.
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:23.359
But if you're doing it in your own club, watch everyone's watching each other, and then you go and do yours again, it's easier to put it into practice.
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:33.119
Absolutely, and there's so many different tools and things that you can do to pull stuff out of your fizzy, like to pull your expression, to pull your musicality.
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:38.399
Um, and everyone's way that they do it, everyone's story that they find in their fizzy is different, right?
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:41.199
But if you found it, I'll see it as a teacher.
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:42.960
I don't need to know what it is, but I'll be able to see it.
01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:45.520
And there's so many different ways that you can do do that.
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:58.239
Um but it's just So you mean like um your own personal journey in Fizzy and trying to bring that out, yeah, and tapping into your music, tapping into the story of the song.
01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:02.159
Sorry.
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:03.760
No, no, no, you're so fine.
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:14.479
Um but it wasn't in yeah, it wasn't until I was on the foot that I'm on now with fizzy that like I was able to then do that for myself because I was like seeing what I wanted.
01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:16.640
Yes um made a big difference.
01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:18.399
Yeah, a bit that's incredible.
01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:20.720
Particularly for things like your contemporary, for example.
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:22.640
So I get my girls every year.
01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:33.600
Every year I get my girls to lay on the floor, I turn all the lights off in the hall, and the because contemporaries are hard to find your your expression in, right?
01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:34.239
Really hard.
01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:40.000
And right from the 13 seniors and ladies, they're all very like expressive pieces this year.
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:48.159
So every year I get the girls to lay down, I turn off all the lights, and there's we we're very lucky we've got four spotlights in our halls.
01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:58.159
I put all four of them on, and I play the cont their contemporary piece three times over, and they're they've got to shut their eyes and lay in the dark.
01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:00.720
And I say to them, I'm like, I I don't care.
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:04.560
I'm like, no, no one's allowed to speak, like your eyes have got to stay shut.
01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:09.520
Don't care what you're thinking, I don't care what you're doing or what you find in the piece.
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:11.840
I said, but forget the music and listen to the words.
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:12.479
Yes.
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:17.920
I said, and whatever you find in the words, find like your you know, your meaning to it.
01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:19.439
I said, I don't want to know what that is.
01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:20.319
Like you don't have to tell me.
01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:21.279
That's your secret.
01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:23.680
It's like making a wish and someone going, What do you wish for?
01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:25.600
And you're like, Well, we can't tell you, it won't come true.
01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:31.680
Yeah, so then I say to them, okay, we're gonna listen to it once, listen to the words, we listen to it again, then find your story.
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:38.079
I said, now we're gonna listen to it a third time and put that with the music, and then the fourth time we get up, the lights come on and they do it.
01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:48.079
And I compare it from the first time of the evening to the fifth time, once we've done it now, those those exercises, and it's like it there's no comparison.
01:13:48.319 --> 01:13:51.039
It's a really good tool to use, so you can do things like that too.
01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:57.359
But then when you find that expression, that's the sort of thing that still has to come back and still plays a part in your marching.
01:13:57.600 --> 01:14:04.000
Yes, you need that expression because you need that confidence that people find in those sorts of exercises.
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:05.439
You still need that in your marching.
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:06.159
Yeah, yeah.
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:06.960
It's shoulders.
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:11.039
It's not just this standing up straight and this these shapes that you're making.
01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:12.720
You need to exude confidence.
01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:15.119
You need to you need to have musicality.
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:17.600
You've seen the rest, and now you're gonna see the best.
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:21.920
Well, on that note, Miss Natalie Allen.
01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:24.399
Thank you so much for joining us.
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:28.079
We are gonna be the most pro marchers you've ever seen.
01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:29.920
I think you guys nailed it this morning, wasn't it?
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:30.479
Oh, thank you.
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:30.880
Amazing.
01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:33.840
Oh we'll be we'll be waving at you at um Zone.
01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:36.159
Look at us! We'll be tuning in from the season.
01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:38.000
Like a couple of five-year-olds.
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:41.680
Look at us, Mummy Got it.
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That was a really good combo.
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Loved it.
01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:48.159
Um, and we've got video come in.
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Yes, so the vis video will line up to everything that we're talking about on the pod.
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Um, we might even release some of it early just so people have already seen it and it will improve the listening experience.
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Um, we often have a potty pick.
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