Psychic Mediums

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Welcome to Spooky, a paranormal podcast, joined doctor Cindy Little
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and Alison Robles as they journey through the realms of
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the supernatural, mysterious, and downright eerie, from ghostly apparitions to poltergeists,
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from haunted houses to strange phenomena. Prepare to have your
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senses heightened.
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And your beliefs challenged.
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It's time to grab your headphones, dim the lights, em
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brace yourself for a journey into the unknown.
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If you dare.
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Welcome everybody, We're back with another podcast. And I'm super.
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Excited today because this is.
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Our psychic podcast, and we have two very special guests.
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We've got Robbie Allen and Camille McCullough, who are two
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local psychics.
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So welcome Camille and Robbie.
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He thanks for having us.
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I already love the awkwardness.
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I know, Alison's just sitting over your line when you
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talk to the debt.
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It's kind of hard to talk to the living sometimes, touche.
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I felt that, yeah, but yeah.
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And plus Alison of course has mentioned a couple of
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times on our show already that she is very psychically sensitive, and.
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She's thanks Robbie for telling me that one.
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Yeah, you bet it grows on you.
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So she's all in the process of navigating that. So
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I think this is going to be a well.
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All of our episodes are really good episodes, but I
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think this is going to be a really interesting one.
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I always get excited when we have guests, So if
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you don't mind, I'm just going to hop right in.
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Yeah, let's do it.
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You good, Yeah, let's do it.
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Let's do it.
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All right.
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So, a couple of things that I've learned learned about
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psychics with y'all going on investigations, which, by the way,
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I love having psychics come on paranormal investigations because and
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here's just a couple of reasons why. Y'all are able
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to detect fraud your great BS detectors, and.
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You know, it's kind of like, yeah, these people are
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blowing smoke up your butt.
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There's really nothing going on, so that is super super valuable.
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You're also able to determine what's going on because most
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people that like myself, that do not have psychic abilities,
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it's like.
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Okay, something's going on.
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I'm getting reports of weird, spooky, dooky stuff. But y'all
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have a much more complex, in depth insight into what's
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going on. It's kind of like, Okay, yeah, this is
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a poultrugeist or this is just a residual haunt.
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There's really nothing here.
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It's just playing over and over again if there's actually
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a presence here and it could be this person or
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that person.
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I'm getting some which leads into the next.
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Thing of you start getting verifiable information, which is really
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exciting to me.
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It's like I'm getting a name.
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I'm getting Mabel or Melba with our Mabel leg case
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at Las right, yeah, you know.
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The temporary agency.
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Remember, yes, Yeah, and getting names and dates and places
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that we can verify. So those are some things that
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I think are just really awesome when it comes to investigating.
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So what do y'all think about going on investigations and.
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Just share a little bit about that.
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Go ahead, Oh, put me on spot.
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I mean, I just think it's cool to have because
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I know what I do, I know what I hear, think, smell, feel, whatever,
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And it's nice to have people on the science end
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who are like.
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You know, especially in the beginning, when it's like you're.
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Not crazy, you're really hearing this, you're really feeling this,
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you really.
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Know what's going on.
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So that's what I liked about investigations when I started.
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Now it's just fun and like a lot of times
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you can feel it like I don't really want to go.
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I don't feel anything there. They're just going to have fun.
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But if you feel then you really want to go too,
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so you can kind of exactly prove to yourself what
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you're getting before you get there.
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Which also, yeah, that brings me to distance reads.
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I don't know if you do this, Camille, but I
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know Robbie does this where you know, we'll be on
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an investigation and if he's not on it, he will
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start texting impressions and getting names and f.
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Love it.
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I love it, And so I don't know, do you
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do anything like that?
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Sometimes?
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Yeah, sometimes if you're just kind of getting impressions and things.
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Yeah, sometimes things will come through and I'm like, I
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have to tell this person now. It's kind of like
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a it's a weird jo like I need to tell you, okay.
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I'll reach out to that person and be like, hey,
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here you go, and usually they're like, how the hell
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do you know that?
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I love it? No, that's why it's like yeah, but.
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You know, yeah, you know, and like for me a
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lot of times on an investigation, it depends on the
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rest of the crowd that's there. Some people give you
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more energy, you picked up more. Some people's energy so
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off or funky, or they're there just to be seen,
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or theatrics that you're not getting the whole picture.
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, And some people you can feel are very stand offish,
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especially if somebody.
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Is like a hardline.
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I don't believe no matter what happens, unless like God
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himself comes in front of me and tell me, you
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know you're not gonna you know it's gonna affect everything.
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Yeah, I love it. What about you, Miss Allison? Hi,
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how's your journey so far with your abilities?
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It's fun, but.
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I don't think I've even told you. I've had a
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spike connectivity in my house and it's not been fun.
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What's been going on your husband's.
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I'm hearing a lot more stuff, which I don't know
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if it's normal, like right before I go to sleep,
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which is probably a good question for you guys, if
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that's normal.
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I'm literally when your brain slows down enough to pay
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attention to it.
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So I'm just like I hear a lot of stuff,
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and my husband ignores a lot of it. I'm like,
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I'm sorry, I don't any type of questioning I have
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to do I have to do alone because and that's yeah,
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it's one of those things that I don't like I
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have to I don't know, it's one of those things.
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If I'm around certain people, I can do it, Like
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I know, I'm just like I can zone out and
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ask questions, but my husband, no, I know I can't.
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That's what I mean. Everybody, if you're with a group
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and they're all kind of on the same page and
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they're into it and want to know, I think things
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come through easier. And then, like she said, you have
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those stand offish ones that makes it harder to pinpoint
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or what you can say without freaking certain people.
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Yeah, sometimes it's like who you're comfortable with.
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Like, if you're with a group of people who not
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only are like minded, but are like friends, and somebody
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you feel comfortable being vulnerable with, it makes it a lot.
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Easier, exactly, especially when you're starting out. Yeah, you can
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be vulnerable with your husband.
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He doesn't mar so he doesn't like the para normal normal.
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So that time, I haven't even told you this part.
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But after the.
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Emily Morgan, my husband was so convinced that something attached
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to him, to the point where I had to message
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with Robbie because I was telling you. I was like, dude,
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you are fine, nothing's attached. He's like, no, no, no,
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don't you have a friend that does distance, And he
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was talking about Robbie. So I had to message Robby
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and be like, my husband's not listening. He wants to
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know if something's attached itself. It's help to him.
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That.
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Yeah, and I talk about the nightlight and we always
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laugh about how he slept with the nightlight.
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Does he still sleep with the nightlight?
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Thank god?
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No.
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Yeah, but it was literally for a week and I
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had to text Robbie to help. Yeah. He said no,
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he was perfectly fine. Everything was good.
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Even if it wasn't, Lobby would just say it's perfectly fine.
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And I was like, I hope your husband's not listening
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to this.
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The dudes in his thirties and he's freaking out and
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sleeping with the nightlight.
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I'm like, dude, your forties and I sleep with the nightlight.
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There you go.
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But I've seen some things.
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There is a difference between seeing them on the daily
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and not and then freaking out over it. So he's
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oblivious to most paranormal stuff.
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That's a fear of the unknown, I think for a
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lot of people.
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Yeah, I think.
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It ties into the fear of death, mortality and everything.
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It's like that saying though, if you feel lonely, turn
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off all the lads and put on a scary movie,
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then you won't feel so alone anymore.
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Your poor husband, he needs a good counselor yeah, you're
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giving him PTSD is a witch.
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Oops, Oh my gosh. Okay, so moving on along, this
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is already getting good.
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If you don't mind sharing when you first discovered your abilities.
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And how that went.
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Are we going to aid ourselves here?
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Is that you don't have to give me specific ages
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if you don't want, that's up to you.
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What was in the eighties, so I'm old.
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It was I I was very very young. I was
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born with cancer, and when I was two, they discovered it.
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And when I came out of my surgery, my mom
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said that I was sitting in the room talking to
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her grandmother who had passed three years before. Oh wow,
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I was born, and I just started telling her things
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about her grandmother that there's no way I would know.
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Wow.
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And she said then after that she would notice me
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talking to nobody and telling her things about family members
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who had passed, and she was like, what is happening.
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So it's just kind of and then my mom fostered
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it in me. She was like, you have a.
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Kid, wow a long time.
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That's nice that you had a mom that was able
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to recognize that and foster that instead of, you know,
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bring in an exorcist.
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She was like, no, you have a gift. You can
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talk to the dead.
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Wow.
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So that's amazing. And it's like me, I didn't tell
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anyone in the family. I've told Joe. I think maybe
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on a past one that I didn't tell anyone until
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me a couple of years ago. I just finally told
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my mom and she was so excited because her mom
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did it, her mom's my grandma's brother did it. And
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she started telling me everybody in the family. I'm like,
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why has nobody ever spoken of this before?
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Aren't you a good Baptist family?
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Yep, yep, that's probably why.
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That's why.
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That's why I remember just walking home because I'm old too.
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We walked home from school back to the day. Yeah,
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and there was this man on our street and all
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of us kids called him Papa. And we walked home
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from school and I told everybody that was with me,
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I'm like, something's wrong with Papa. I don't fell right.
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And when we got home, we found out he had
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passed away. And so I kind of told my friends
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before they ever told us what had happened.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah, wow, so y'all were little, we're all young, and
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so Robbie just said that it runs in your family.
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Well, I think a lot of times it does, does
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it in yours?
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That I don't know if it runs in mind. I
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know I had an aunt by marriage who was sensitive,
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but that wouldn't be like running in the family.
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So you think maybe the surgery at such a young
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young age, maybe it just opened you up.
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Just being so close to death that such a young
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age may have been. And so, yeah, it doesn't hurt
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that my birthday is the day before Halloween.
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You know, Oh.
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Wow, this Ishilloween. Nobody thinks happy birthday, They say this
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is Halloween.
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Wow. Yeah, I've heard that it runs in families a
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lot of times.
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Yes, I've heard that. Yeah, if anybody in my family,
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they won't say anything to me.
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Hm, they said, nobody in my family has said anything.
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I pick up the cues. I'm like, how did you
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know that? They just won't admit. Oh, they don't clue
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in you know that they knew something for it happened.
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They just think, oh, well, I just do it all
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the time.
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So they just they aren't really connecting the dots. No,
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it's like psycho.
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Because my mom does it, my sister does it, I
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do it. We all just know before things happen. A
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lot of times.
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It's just the way we are.
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Yeah, we're Baptists, I guess. And they just don't talk
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about it. Yeah.
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But so yeah, And here's my question to everybody moving
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on along. Can anyone develop psychic skills or is it
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something that you're born with?
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What do you think.
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Everybody's going to have a different take on it. I
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feel like we can all foster it. I think the
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more you tune into it and are more open to it. Yeah, sure,
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the more I think everybody has get well, all of
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us have spiritual gifts. Some just torn us that easier,
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but I think we can all open that up and
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feel I think so.
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I don't think it happens overnight. No, Like a lot
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of people seem to think you just go, oh a
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psychic and it happens.
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Names mentioned.
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Yeah, it takes a long time to get to the
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point where you're like in tune with it.
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Yeah, and even when you get there, sometimes life just
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gets so hectic, busy you just turn it off and
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then you have to rework it again. But yeah, I
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think everyone can tune into it.
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What do you think.
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I think, yes, it's yes to both. It's easier for
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those to where it runs in the family, just because
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you're kind of it's there. You have people in a
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sense to guide you. But then people that like just
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don't like you're trying to learn. Yeah, I think people
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in the paranorm that naturally investigate it's easier for them
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to gain it because you're exposing yourself to that kind
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of thing consistently, so you just learn how to use.
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I guess your body is a tool. I mean we
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talk about equipment all the time, but we never talk
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about how we use our bodies. Yeah, yeah, we like
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we use our body a lot of I mean we
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talk about on investigations it's like I don't feel anything here,
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or it seems quiet.
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And see everybody says that they have all the tools
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in their hands, and they'll say.
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That, yeah, and it's like, I don't they don't pay
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attention that they're using their body's response system to dictate
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if there's anything going on.
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Right. That's such a good point because y'all are absolutely right.
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It's it's kind of like, yeah, we all go in
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there and I don't care if you're like me, or
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you're like robbie're like you or.
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Camille, just all on the spectrum.
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But yeah, we always go in there and go, I
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feel this, I feel that, and it's like you can
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feel the what I just.
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Call it energy. That's that's where I'm at.
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It's like I don't know what kind of energy it is,
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but yeah, there are definitely vibes to different places, and
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that's where I think the psychics, those with you know,
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the psychic abilities.
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Are able to kind of like figure that out.
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And see those times are you turning tuning into it?
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So see you just harness that and grow it because
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you are picking up things when you go in different
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places when you get those vibes.
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Yeah, but you know, every place has a vibe. I mean,
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that's how we say, you know, it's like reading the
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room exactly.
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That's part of it. That's part of the process, that's
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where you start from. I'm like, do you ever go
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to like Nature's Treasures in Austin. Have you ever been
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in there?
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You've been there one time.
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The energy is so crazy in there that I have
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to turn around, walk out, reground for a little while,
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and then go back in, just because you feel that
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place so strong.
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The one time I went in there, I was like, oh,
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I need to take a breather, sat in the car,
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turned ac on for a few minutes, did a little wusaw,
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and went back in.
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It overwhelmed you because it's put admitting so much energy
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off of all the different things in there.
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Really is it like what a metaphysical shop?
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It's the biggest Texas largest, right huge?
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It doesn't it have a well?
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When I went, I think there was like a meditation
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room inside.
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It even like they just though so we got to
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go find it. But yeah, they had them outside inside
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it was huge. That's what Nature's Treasureasures and their theme
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is we Rock.
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I mean it's clever.
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Yeah, I like it.
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So when messages come through, I mean you've already talked
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about feeling things and reading the room, but do they
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come through in any other way? I mean, do you
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you know, hear things or see things, or you know,
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get visions about things or anything like that.
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Sometimes I'll kind of see like flashes of image. It's
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almost kind of like in your mind's eye thing, and
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then I'm like, oh, I know what that means for me,
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and it's kind of like an interpretation.
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Okay, so kind of a mental image.
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Yeah. Yeah, soby'll learn how they grasp it, how they
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get it, because to me, a lot of times it
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comes in dreams. But if it's during the day, it's
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like a little TV clip. I see it in my
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mind's eye, the little playing out.
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It's like a trailer.
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And then so if you hear things, it's always in
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your mind's eye. You're hearing it's not audible outside of you.
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You're hearing it in your mind's eye.
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Yeah, okay, well that makes a lot of sense.
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I mean, do you ever have any any like audible
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like actually.
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Things that you see or hear. Sometimes sometimes it's not
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on the constant.
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It just depends on the scenario or what's going on
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or the investigation, what you're gonna get or see.
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I think I've had it happen to me once, and
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that was at my house when I.
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First bought it.
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But that was like the first audible thing I could hear.
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Oh oh, was it?
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It was?
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I mentioned the cowboy. I've mentioned him to you.
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Before, yes, oh yeah. He was always in the Sergio's
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restaurant too, Bally.
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So there's some cowboy that's been in my house. The
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first time I moved into the house, I was leaving.
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This is when my husband was thinking. He just switched
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to day shift, so he was already gone. I hear
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someone say hey, and so I me, not thinking, I
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thought it was my husband. I was like hey, and
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I turn around and I could see something in my
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head and then I looked and I was like, okay, whatever.
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I was like, I gotta go to work, have fun,
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and then straight walked out.
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Oh my god.
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And then it was probably six months later I actually
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physically saw him in my living room.
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Oh wow.
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And my husband was sitting on the cap. I think
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I told you this. I was sitting he was sitting there.
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Walked up and it's like I thought he was standing there.
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And I looked up and it was not him. It
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was this cowboy, dude.
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It was the cowboy.
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And then he could tell I was looking at him
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and I was just zoned out, but I was having
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a conversation in my head.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah, wild see, which brings me to another question about
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it investigations. Another reason is this just a selfish one? Why
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I love having people with psychic abilities on investigations is y'all.
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Are ghost magnets.
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Oh for sure.
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I find that when we have a psychic on an investigation,
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we get a lot more activity, for sure. And not
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just the psychics get more activity, ever, everybody is more activity. So,
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I mean, and that's something that we're doing in our
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academic research. I mean, that's something that's pretty obvious and
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we're just trying to figure out what's going on. Is
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this the energy in the environment interacting with your personal
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energy or you know, are you drawing in entities? You know,
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I have no idea, But do you find that that's
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the case. You're both sitting here nodding when you are
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on investigations with other people, that more stuff happens.
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I think they're attracted to our life.
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We're like, yeah, like we're a light in their moths.
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They're like, oh, yeah, they're coming to us. And so
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when there's more black minded people, like say there's all
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three or four of us in one, you're going to
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get way more happenings, more energy versus just one of
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us in there. So I feel like all of us
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are putting off our light moths to a flame.
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Yeah, oh I like that.
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I can see that definitely because yeah, and then then
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the bonus part of that is is like, yeah, more
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activity is happening, and y'all have more insight into.
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What that activity is. So it's all just great stuff.
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I also think that it's just investigating because in general,
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because when we go on investigations, we put off a
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different energy, right whereas like you, like you going into teaching,
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you're putting off a different energy than you would going
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into investigation.
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So it's true.
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I think it's just the combination of putting someone that
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naturally vibrates at that frequency every day, and then you
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add you that you know might.
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Be matching it.
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Yeah, you're switching between different things, so it's combining like
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you and Robbie compared to just Robbie by himself. Okay,
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so your frequency is matching with Robbie's because you're going
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in there with the same kind of mindset.
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That's a good point because you know, like in theaters
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or movies where there's a lot of emotions or this
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or that, the energy levels that's what gives more strength.
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So you put all of us at that higher level,
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that's why they come in. So that's a good point.
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Yeah, And Camille just was talking about something like that
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a few minutes ago, where it's kind of like if
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I'm with people that I'm comfortable around and I am relaxed.
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I mean, I think that has a lot to do
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with it as well, where it's kind of like, hey,
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we all know each other, we all trust each other,
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we're open to having having things happen, and things happen.
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So yeah, I'm still learning about the whole frequency vibe thing.
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You know, I don't know much about that, So you
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do it.
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I think it's just everyone does it and they don't
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realize they're doing it. Like you say that someone's vibes
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are weird and you can you're catching a vibe, or
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when someone has a bad attitude, you're like, I don't
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like their attitude. It's making me upset. It's you're catching
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that energy and it's very weird, which she had mentioned like, oh,
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if someone stand offish, it's it puts it almost like
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a damper to your reading. Yeah, so it's you're doing
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it a lot more than what you would think you're doing.
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To put it like this, I've not been around a
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narcissist per se, but someone who is a narcissist and
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you spend the day with them, think how it affects
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your energy at the end of the day, after spending
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a whole day, you know what I mean.
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It drains you.
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So whenever you're around people that are all like, who,
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let's go do this, the energy is just amped up.
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So stay around the negative Nelly, you're gonna be down.
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Be around people that are interested in what you're doing
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in ipor and excited. You're going to catch onto this too.
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So yeah, they're getting says shift and energy. That a
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whole energy shift again. So interesting.
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Yeah.
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Oh, and I went to Granddaddy Willow. I don't know
499
00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:36.599
if you've been.
500
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:37.920
To Granddaddy will I have not.
501
00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:39.279
We like it.
502
00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:41.880
Yeah, you'll have to come with us. It's a new
503
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:44.160
little metaphysical shop here in Waco.
504
00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:45.759
It's over on Richland and.
505
00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:47.720
He'll do a little readings and stuff. He hasn't been
506
00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:49.599
there when I've been yet, but I saw his table
507
00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:50.319
where he'll do him.
508
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:52.440
I've met him, I've just never been to the shop.
509
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:53.920
Yeah, he's really sweet.
510
00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:56.359
But yeah, we were looking at all the rocks and
511
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.839
I was getting a lesson on fancy biby rocks.
512
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:03.440
I had to leave. That was a two year old
513
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:04.880
that wanted to show me all the rocks.
514
00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:06.599
Oh my gosh.
515
00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.480
Yeah, we were like Robbie and I met up there
516
00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:11.000
the other day. We were gonna, you know, sit and
517
00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:13.440
talk to the owner and have a nice cup of
518
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:14.319
herbal tea.
519
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:16.839
And read the Tiro cards. But a family brought their
520
00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:19.559
two year old in. That was just all over the place.
521
00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:21.880
So I was my energy was like, I can't take it.
522
00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:24.640
Nothing, I gotta leave. Oh my gosh. No, the two
523
00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:26.759
year old was just being a two year old. It
524
00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:27.319
was the mother.
525
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:31.000
I wanted to smack up side of the head. I'm
526
00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:33.039
just like, please parent your child.
527
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:36.880
So we left. We went and got pizza instead.
528
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:38.240
I said, we'll go back next week.
529
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:42.240
Yeah, but yeah, I do know that. I don't know,
530
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:44.240
you know. Georgina is another one that we need to
531
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:46.559
have on the show. But she's the.
532
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.240
One that's like all of the research.
533
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.759
The rock well, yeah, she's the historical research. Love her monster,
534
00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:56.519
but the rocks, I don't know.
535
00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:58.200
The cystals.
536
00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:01.880
The crystals, she knows what they are, those fancy rocks.
537
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:04.480
Yeah, and so and then you know, and she was
538
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:09.160
talking about all the different energies and things and protections.
539
00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:11.839
The black termaline is always a really good one to
540
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.480
get rid of negative It absorbs.
541
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.440
So my husband had a black tormaline that he kept
542
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:18.880
in his pocket because I told him to do it,
543
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:21.920
and he had it in there maybe a year, and
544
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:23.880
one day it just exploded.
545
00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:26.440
In his pocket what it absorbed so much.
546
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:29.480
And at the time he was working somewhere where there
547
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:31.799
was a lot of negativity and.
548
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:34.640
It just and then for like us, I don't know
549
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.759
about you, but I would assume we're always drawn to
550
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.880
the is it selenite, that's the clear one and that
551
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.359
helps you with your intuitive abilities, helps.
552
00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:47.240
Your focus on selenite and amethyst for me.
553
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.240
Saying, it's just what we're drawn to because they help
554
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.400
you since things are see things more clearly.
555
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:55.079
Okay, so do you bring these on?
556
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.400
Investigations usually have them in my pocket. Yes, and then
557
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:01.359
I had one made with tenser technology around it. The
558
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:04.599
crystals are crushed and it's a necklace that keeps you grounded.
559
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:06.640
And like when you take it off at the end
560
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:08.720
of the day, you fuck blue head because it's cap
561
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.240
you grounded. When you go on those investigations and stuff.
562
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:13.680
Oh my gosh.
563
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.079
See those little things I just never talked about. They
564
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:18.960
find out a little by little more and more set
565
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.160
going back to the energy shifts. Remember when we do investigations.
566
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:24.839
That's why always brought a stun gun. Look how many
567
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.759
vaults of energy were popping out there, So that really
568
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:28.680
brings them to us.
569
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.000
Yeah, I was telling me all about Yeah, he brings
570
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.519
his taser and like it works it off.
571
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:39.200
Yeah. So do you do you know anything about the
572
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:39.920
fancy rocks?
573
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:41.200
Do you use the things?
574
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:42.599
I do?
575
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:48.759
But I usually don't use them a whole lot. Certain
576
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.319
ones will actually give me headaches, And there are certain
577
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:55.359
ones that he was just like for me, a lot
578
00:27:55.400 --> 00:28:00.759
of those clear rocks actually give me headaches. And I
579
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:04.160
don't know what it is, but a lot of the
580
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:08.640
time I have to either pop a squat or completely
581
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:12.119
just lay down, and it's I don't know if it's
582
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:16.519
just the physical part of grounding of like feeling the
583
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:19.279
area for me to be able to like ground myself.
584
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:21.880
But most of the time the rocks actually give me
585
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:25.440
headaches and they they make me feel funny.
586
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:27.839
It's probably the same thing we were talking about when
587
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.240
we went in Nature's Treasures. We have to go out
588
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.240
red ground, go back in. You're absorbing all that energy
589
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:36.680
you've got to what would you say, that's you grounding
590
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.359
then you can be around them. Yeah.
591
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:44.440
Yeah, So I think it's just it varies, but it varies.
592
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:50.160
It varies, like I guess what each person does is
593
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:51.440
slightly different.
594
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:52.880
That makes sense.
595
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:58.119
Yeah, and this is young. I think it's weird. But
596
00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:00.839
I took some of my crystals to my friends memorial
597
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.839
service and I had them there and so I'm going
598
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.240
to crush them and I'm going to make them into
599
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.119
a pennant with some of her ashes to give to
600
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:08.759
her kids.
601
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:09.000
Oh.
602
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:12.519
How nice, because that was the energy from that and
603
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.640
her and ashes. So that'll be nice.
604
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.240
That'll be so nice. What a nice way to remember.
605
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:19.920
Yeah, So that was some of the stuff I was
606
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:21.720
getting all together this morning. I'm like, go, oh, I
607
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:23.000
got to get there.
608
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.880
Less and you made it just fine.
609
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:26.200
Yeah.
610
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:28.440
Yeah, But that kind of leads.
611
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:33.400
Me into my next question, because folks that I've talked
612
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:38.720
to that have been able to harness their abilities, which
613
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.519
takes many, many years, and all the way to people that,
614
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:43.759
oh my gosh, how do I turn this on? How
615
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.920
do I turn this off? How do you all, and
616
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:49.720
you've already kind of touched on this a minute ago,
617
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.880
how do you all prepare yourselves mentally and emotionally to
618
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.680
go into an investigation or into a reading if somebody
619
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:01.400
wants you to to do or reading. What are some
620
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:05.519
things that really, I guess just ground you or help
621
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:06.960
you prepare.
622
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.359
I like to lay in bed with all the lights off,
623
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:13.759
in the dark. I play like some really soft like
624
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.279
I call it hippie dippy music, and I just kind
625
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:20.119
of relax and try to clear my mind. And like
626
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.200
I try to get into the mindset, and I try
627
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.119
to do I guess maybe something distance to kind of
628
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:28.039
connect with the reading or the investigation before I even
629
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:30.480
get there. Like I try to be ready to go.
630
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:35.000
Okay, that makes sense, you know.
631
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:37.359
Me, I'm a squirrel in traffic. It just comes. I
632
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:40.519
don't I mean, I just don't prepare. I just go
633
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:42.720
the balls of the wall, whatever comes.
634
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.079
I used to be like that, but I had to
635
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.440
be cause I get like, I can feel how people.
636
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:50.920
Died and like and it hurts.
637
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.240
Yeah, So I had to get to the point where
638
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:55.519
I think for me physically, I had to do that
639
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.279
little wu saw to get ready so that I don't.
640
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:01.279
Hurt my body, especially with the fiber and then feeling
641
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:02.200
all that on top of it.
642
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:03.000
It's not right.
643
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.839
Gosh, yeah, what about you if you got a way
644
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:08.960
to prepare for things?
645
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:10.599
Yet I'm kind of a mix.
646
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:17.319
I most of the time don't prepare, but I naturally Again,
647
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:19.319
I don't know if this is normal, but I normally
648
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:21.359
walk around my house with no lights on. And I've
649
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:22.119
told you this.
650
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:22.839
Uh huh.
651
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:27.680
I will have my entire house just dark. I don't
652
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:28.559
use any lights.
653
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:29.000
I don't.
654
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.359
I just walk around and if I have to use
655
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.839
a light, I use my phone flashlight fun. And it's
656
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:39.240
just it's one of those things. And I've picked up
657
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.400
on a lot of the time that if I'm going
658
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.880
somewhere and I mentally know, like I know, fake Casey
659
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:47.640
will come to me before a pair of normal you,
660
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:50.759
and I'll just be sitting there talking to myself, like
661
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:54.319
I'll verbally be saying stuff out loud, like I'll be like,
662
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.119
I don't know, I gotta go to this thing, okay,
663
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.799
fake casey, Like I'll just be talking to myself.
664
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:01.400
So it's kind of.
665
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.319
Like a mix, like I kind of prepare for it,
666
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:05.000
but I don't at the same time.
667
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.880
Yea, Like the first time I went to Paranormal the
668
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.519
drive over, I keep getting arrows, an arrow pointing up,
669
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.839
pointing out, pointing up. Well, that was where I got
670
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.960
the most activity was up in that balcony, so just
671
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.640
there's no preparation, it just pops it.
672
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:22.799
Yeah, that balcony.
673
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:29.119
I hate going up there when I see depression up
674
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.599
there so bad. And then we found out why I
675
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:34.880
was feeling that because that was the black only entrance. Remember,
676
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:36.680
I found out after the fact that I got there.
677
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.000
I hate that area.
678
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:40.319
The last time I was up there, I felt like
679
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.359
my body was being set on fire, like the whole
680
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:44.799
thing really, and I was like I have to get
681
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:45.599
everybody I was with.
682
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:46.759
I was like, y'all can stay a pair. I need
683
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:48.240
to get down like I can't.
684
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:50.799
So it's not just the me thing.
685
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.880
See, Yeah, y'all for all of those who don't know.
686
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:57.680
We're talking about the Palace Theater in Marlin, and I
687
00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.599
know we've mentioned this before on the show, but it
688
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.279
is like super active place.
689
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:04.440
And yes, fate Casey is.
690
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:10.119
An entity that haunts the balcony and that likes, well
691
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:14.640
likes to not like Alison. So that's that's what we're
692
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.480
referring to, as well as other energies and things. I
693
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:21.039
didn't know, Camille, that you had such a strong reaction
694
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.119
up there in the balcony every time I go up there.
695
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:26.519
Yeah, I just wanted to cry. I hated that balcony.
696
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:31.960
Wow, excelain so much more now, Yeah, I just go.
697
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.640
Up there with my cat falls and the cameras. Let's
698
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:41.440
do this. Wow. Okay, Well then I guess I was
699
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:42.160
thinking about this.
700
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:47.160
You all have a good handle on your abilities. But
701
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:50.960
I talked to so many people that they're kind of
702
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.440
opening themselves up to their psychic abilities for the first time,
703
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.000
and they're like, how the hell do I turn this off?
704
00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:58.480
I don't like this?
705
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:03.519
How do I troll this? So do y'all have any
706
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.440
tips for that?
707
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:11.400
I think everything still goes back to grounding yourself is
708
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:16.280
how you manage it. You just gotta always because like
709
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.079
when they're just opening up, sometimes it's hard for someone
710
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:21.840
to say, wait a minute, why am I feeling this.
711
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.199
That's not me, that's somebody else. It's hard to distinguish
712
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:28.679
sometimes what you're picking up, what's yours versus what somebody else's.
713
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.800
I personally think it's kind of like a light switch.
714
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:40.960
For me, I mentally have to like imagine a light
715
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:46.280
switch and me slowly turning it on and off. Have
716
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:48.480
I don't. As a kid, I used to do that
717
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:51.719
experiment of like putting the light switch in the middle. Oh,
718
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:53.960
so if you have like a double light switch that
719
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:56.800
can turn on the same light, if you put it
720
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:00.199
in the middle, the other light switch technically doesn't work.
721
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.599
You can flip it all you want, as long as
722
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:05.960
that one light switches in the middle, it won't matter.
723
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.960
I did not know this, so I yeah, so I
724
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.639
because I didn't know about it, I always got told like,
725
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:19.519
don't do that. That's not a thing. It's it goes
726
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:23.559
against religion and stuff like that. So because again I
727
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.119
grew up, I grew up in a Catholic and Baptist household,
728
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:32.199
so it was that's not allowed, that goes against God.
729
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.239
You're not supposed to be doing that, so I kind
730
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.639
of had to secretly do it, and I ended up
731
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:43.280
shutting myself off for a while. But it's almost like
732
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.800
practicing keeping it in the middle some way. You you
733
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:50.920
physically have control of what comes through and what doesn't.
734
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:55.280
And if it's all the way on, it comes full blast,
735
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:58.159
like yeah, whereas if it's in the middle, you can
736
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.000
kind of filter out what's coming at you.
737
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:05.320
I like that. It's just kind of a visualization type thing.
738
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:06.599
I like that.
739
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:07.960
But that was just me.
740
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:10.440
So well, I'm sure everybody.
741
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:13.960
I'm sure y'all have found ways to ground yourselves or
742
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.800
you know, hippie dippy music and laying in the dark room.
743
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:17.960
That sounds really nice.
744
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:20.480
I think that's more it is.
745
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:21.880
I just want to be relaxed before I have to
746
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:22.519
go do anything.
747
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:27.760
Yeah, So, do y'all use anything like tools like tarot
748
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:31.920
cards or like so we just talked about crystals or
749
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:34.239
anything else, or do you just kind of.
750
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.760
Go in I mean I have some of those things.
751
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:39.360
I don't necessarily use them.
752
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:42.000
Right for us, like the tarot cards or whatever. It's
753
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:46.199
just a tool to keep our I think the motion
754
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:48.280
of the hands, keeping the hands busy is just quieting
755
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:50.760
the mind so you can It's not we're using them,
756
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.400
We're just writing the mind so we get more. Yeah.
757
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.599
Like sometimes if I'm doing a private reading, which I
758
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:57.920
really don't like to do but I do occasionally, I'll
759
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.159
bring like my pendulum because I feel like people want
760
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.800
to see something instead of me just sitting there having
761
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:03.800
a conversation with them.
762
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.639
Mm hm. That makes a lot of sense too.
763
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:10.960
And I've heard that before where it's like these types
764
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:13.920
of tools are almost just to kind of help with focus. Right,
765
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:17.519
It's not they don't have any big magic in and
766
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:19.920
of themselves or anything. It's just to kind of help
767
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.480
you focus your abilities. That makes a lot of sense.
768
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:26.800
So are there anything? Is there anything that you won't
769
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.840
reveal to somebody if you get something negative about somebody
770
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:31.679
or their life.
771
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:37.119
Yeah, I wouldn't personally, just because it's the ethics type thing.
772
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:41.599
You never want to put fear onto somebody if there's
773
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:42.239
no need to.
774
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:44.480
Not only that, but a lot of people want to
775
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.320
know what's going to happen, and I can't tell you.
776
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:48.119
For sure, Like I can have.
777
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:50.159
A change on it dying you always hear that it
778
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.039
actually can What I see is going to happen. But
779
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:56.320
if you do something to alter that, then you know,
780
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:58.440
or if you're in a situation where it does get altered,
781
00:37:58.440 --> 00:37:59.320
then it changes, right.
782
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.519
Yeah, Like I I have the dream thing too, And
783
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:06.840
I had a dream once that someone that was someone
784
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:09.119
I knew was going to pass away, and I wasn't
785
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:13.320
gonna tell anybody, And then when it happened, other people
786
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:14.440
came to me and they're like, did you know?
787
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:15.519
Wow?
788
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:16.920
And I'm like, I'm not going to tell you whether
789
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:20.119
I knew or not, because what would that help well
790
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.400
in your healing process?
791
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:23.599
Regardless?
792
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:25.719
Yeah, exactly, I have no control over whether it's going
793
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:27.400
to happen or not. And why would I put you
794
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:28.159
through that stress?
795
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.079
Yeah, it's what good will it do you?
796
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:30.880
Exactly?
797
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:34.639
Yeah, that'd be like me saying, oh, I see it.
798
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:37.400
Within the next year, you're gonna be having lots of
799
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.400
legal issues in court battles, and then you're gonna spend
800
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:42.920
your own dire years stressed out, worried. Oh my god.
801
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.280
And I could have just said that and I totally
802
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.400
altered your energy your way of life the next year,
803
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:50.440
So why bothered?
804
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:52.199
And that could have put that into motion, like maybe
805
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.840
exactly anything wasn't gonna happen, but you're saying it puts
806
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:56.039
into motion whatever too?
807
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:56.519
All is that?
808
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.639
Yeah, yeah, that makes so much sense to me.
809
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.920
That would be the hardest thing, you know, to get
810
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.480
really negative or life altering information.
811
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:12.320
I don't think anybody with any ethical mindset would. I
812
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:15.119
think they come to you because they have a need
813
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.840
or something they need answered, and you lift it up
814
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:21.480
and you kind of give them what they need and
815
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:23.440
put a spin on it where they feel more healthy.
816
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:27.440
Okay, it makes a lot of sense. That makes sense.
817
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.920
So do you get insights into your personal life, like
818
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:37.320
about yourself for example, like knowing who's going to text.
819
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:38.079
You or call you before?
820
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:38.719
Yeah?
821
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:43.199
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, nothing major, you know, like I
822
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:44.639
don't know when I'm going to die, but I know
823
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.039
I might know who's gonna call me today.
824
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:49.880
Okay, Like big things like people you're really really close
825
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.000
to you don't see you can't read them. It's easier
826
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:56.519
to read total strangers than your loved ones because that
827
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:59.280
can just it's it alters so much.
828
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:02.880
Well, yeah, you've got so much invested in that relationship
829
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:05.800
where you can't see it. That makes a lot of sense.
830
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:12.760
What about you dearie, Hi, Like.
831
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.719
When I loved one that you're very very close to, Like,
832
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:18.800
since you have this gift and you can talk to
833
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:23.800
them and stuff, they have all these what am I
834
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.480
trying to say? Things they have to go through once
835
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:30.320
they're gone. So since you were so close, they may
836
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.320
go to somebody else before you, You know what I mean.
837
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:35.159
It takes way longer for you to communicate with your
838
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:36.239
own love and later.
839
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.800
I do tell a lot of people like, even if
840
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:42.039
somebody could come through, I will not communicate with anybody
841
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:44.360
for the first year after they pass, because they need
842
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.000
that time on the other side.
843
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:48.320
What is the word I'm looking for? They're going through
844
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:51.920
processes on the other side, and then they come back
845
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:53.800
with a whole new knowing and understanding.
846
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:56.079
Yeah, like the whole universe opens up to you.
847
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:57.360
I believe when you pass.
848
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:05.960
Huh, it's really interesting. So do you get any personal insights? No?
849
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:10.760
I tend to block everything out when it personally comes
850
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:13.039
to me. If it has to do with me, I
851
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:13.800
block it out.
852
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.639
Turn the light switch into the middle kind of yeah.
853
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:22.559
Until she stems her toe in the dark and she's like, oh.
854
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.679
I think the only time I ever opened myself up
855
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:29.000
to it is with my uncle Joe, and that's because
856
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:30.960
he's one of my spirit guides. If it's not coming
857
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:35.079
from my uncle Joe, I don't pay attention to it.
858
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:38.000
If it's important enough for him to mention to me,
859
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.480
then great. If it's not, I'm not concerned about it.
860
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:44.159
That's just my philosophy on it.
861
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:48.360
Wasn't it your uncle Joe that we were like getting
862
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:53.199
pendulum hits on in the camera trading yes upstairs?
863
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:57.000
Yes, yeah, so, And that's one of my things is
864
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.599
that I do call him my uncle Joe a lot,
865
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:03.440
like if it's one of those. And I don't know
866
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:05.800
if I've told you, but he actually passed like twenty
867
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:10.000
years before I was even born. He passed in seventy five,
868
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:12.880
and when I was fifteen, that's how I found out.
869
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.239
I ended up asking my mom about him. So that's
870
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.719
why I'm like, if it's not coming from uncle Joe,
871
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.280
it's fine, it's cool. It's not that big of a concern.
872
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.639
Okay, that's really interesting. Yeah, I didn't know.
873
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:27.960
That reminds me of that song from the eighties, Me
874
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.800
and Joe. Here we Go, So that's your theme song?
875
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:37.039
Yeah, I mean, I have to say those with like
876
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:41.119
really scary accurate abilities there. Y'all are a little bit
877
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:46.039
intimidating to me because you are, because I'm thinking, what
878
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:47.480
the hell are they picking up?
879
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.000
And meanwhile, I feel like, you know, I'll be sitting
880
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:51.880
on the couch eat and Cheetos, watching TV and I'll
881
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:53.760
be like, can you shut up to the dead people.
882
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:58.760
Quite a minute? I'm trying to get your a tshirt
883
00:42:58.760 --> 00:42:59.679
because my mind's.
884
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.400
Oh yeah, they'll do that all the time. They'll like
885
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:04.639
it's like sometimes they're like a little kid like hey, hey, hey,
886
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:06.320
And I'm like, can you leave me alone?
887
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:06.679
Please?
888
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:08.480
Really, like I'm not sure're going to give me the
889
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:11.159
answers for this exam in this class I'm taking. Please
890
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:12.199
leave me alone right now?
891
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:16.280
Oh my goodness. Why I didn't know you were pestered?
892
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:20.760
Sometimes sometimes it's important they'll keep picking until you say
893
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:22.039
okay and then pay attention.
894
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.719
It's really weird when it's pestering and you're out in
895
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:26.960
public and it's something for a stranger.
896
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:27.679
Have you ever head that?
897
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:28.199
Yeah?
898
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.519
And I won't do that. I won't use and.
899
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.440
I'm like, I'm not going to walk up. Like one
900
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:33.920
time I was at Cracker Barrel and it was this
901
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:37.719
older gentleman by himself, eating and it was his wife,
902
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.000
and she kept saying, tell him. I'm okay, tell him, okay,
903
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:42.000
tell mom, okay. He's upset, he needs this. And I'm like,
904
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.159
I I'm not going to walk up to this man
905
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:48.119
and say range yes, especially because he just looks so
906
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:50.159
sad eating by himself, and I'm like, I can't do
907
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:50.719
that to him.
908
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:54.239
Oh no, I won't do it now. I came close though.
909
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:56.880
It was a waitress. I was out eating and it
910
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.400
was a waitress and I kept getting getting getting, so
911
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:01.480
when it was time to pay, I wrote it on
912
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:03.119
the receipt and folded up, so she got it after
913
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:05.599
I left. She'll never remember me. But I delivered the
914
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:06.559
message that way.
915
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.360
Well, I guess that's one way to do it. I mean,
916
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:11.239
if you felt that compelled.
917
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:13.880
I just had to tell her. So I wrote it
918
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:15.519
on a receipt and lift it on the back of
919
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:16.000
my receipt.
920
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:18.400
And then, like a lot of people seem to think,
921
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:20.960
like a lot of these shows like Long Island, medium
922
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:22.480
not gonna lie. I do watch it.
923
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:24.960
Oh, I love it, but it's publicity, it's.
924
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:27.400
Yeah, But she just walks up to a random strangers.
925
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:27.519
No.
926
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:29.400
I mean, I'm sure that they're probably picked out for
927
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:31.559
the show. But like a lot of people will watch
928
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.559
that and think, oh, you have this ability, You're just
929
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:36.840
going to walk up to somebody and give them a message.
930
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:38.519
And I'm like, that's I'm not.
931
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:39.760
Going to do that. No.
932
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:41.840
I will talk to the wall, but I'm not going
933
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:43.960
to just walk up to the total stranger and give
934
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.360
a Message's okay, nice to meet you, buy leave. I'm
935
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:47.079
not going to do that.
936
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:47.840
Hi.
937
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:49.400
Just you know, your grandpa says, hi, I have a
938
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:50.159
great day.
939
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.960
Whoa wait a minute, Wait a minute. Yeah, and I
940
00:44:54.000 --> 00:45:00.000
can see that too. So what are what's one miss
941
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.920
that kind of like plays into this next question? What
942
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:06.559
is one myth about psychics that you just wish would
943
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:07.079
go away?
944
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:09.840
I feel like I could write a book.
945
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.880
Oh there's a lot. I mean that that one, and
946
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.159
a lot of people seem to think that we can
947
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:21.119
just it's a party trick and if you want a reading,
948
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.719
I can just tell you everything you want to know
949
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:27.239
right now. And that's and it doesn't Sometimes it doesn't
950
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:27.800
happen right.
951
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:29.199
They think we can get it in your head and
952
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:30.960
I can tell you exactly what you ate or did
953
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:33.320
before you came to sit down here today. It's not
954
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:38.119
like that, you know. Yeah, it's usually only something that's
955
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:40.920
important that you need to know, is all I get? Yeah?
956
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:45.239
Yeah, I think my favorite that I consistently get is
957
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:49.119
what what's the winning lotto numbers? Oh yeah, it's like
958
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:51.559
they think that you can just pick.
959
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.199
Yeah, psychics would rule the world.
960
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:55.800
Yeah.
961
00:45:55.840 --> 00:46:01.239
And it's like I've heard this before, but it's never
962
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:07.679
use it for personal gain, and using your ability to
963
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:11.639
get the lotto numbers would be personal gain. So it's like,
964
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.079
why bother using that. It's like, I'm not gonna take
965
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:18.039
the time out of my data figure out lotto numbers
966
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:19.239
like you.
967
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.760
Put using it because I think that's why we do
968
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:26.719
have it to help others. I mean, that's me and
969
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:29.039
that's the way I feel.
970
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:33.199
I see it as another human ability, and that's why
971
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:36.960
I think a lot of scientists that have studied a
972
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.039
lot of researchers that have studied this, you know, and
973
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:41.840
just dismissed it. Oh, this is freak fake, this is
974
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:43.960
a fraud, This is a sham. And it's like, you
975
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:47.039
know what, you don't put other human abilities under a
976
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:51.000
microscope like that. I mean, you don't even put Olympic
977
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:55.679
athletes under that microscope. I think of professional athletes and
978
00:46:56.000 --> 00:47:01.320
batting averages or bowling averages. It's it's kind of like, no,
979
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:07.559
you this ability is there and it's steady and constant.
980
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:12.880
But you know, everybody has good days, bad days, you know.
981
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.679
I think of the athletes where it's like, oh, I
982
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:18.519
had food poisoning last night, so yeah, I didn't scores
983
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:21.159
many baskets the next night. You know that type of
984
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:24.440
thing where it's it's kind of like or hey I
985
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:27.320
had a really stressful day, or hey I'm really tired,
986
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.559
or you know whatever it is. All of these things
987
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:35.880
impact this type of ability just like it impacts other
988
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:40.800
abilities that people have, and but this one is, for
989
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:42.440
some reason put under a microscope.
990
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:44.440
I think it's just so people can try to prove
991
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.719
that it doesn't exist. It's like, oh, well, you.
992
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:49.079
Got that reading wrong, or you got this wrong, or
993
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:53.280
you weren't accurate, and it's like it's a bunch of nonsense.
994
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:55.639
Cuarly unknown. Again, I'm gonna prove you wrong because I'm
995
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:56.960
afraid of it, or I don't believe it.
996
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.559
Yeah, I don't understand it. I'm afraid of it. Whatever
997
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:01.000
it is.
998
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:03.639
And I think a lot of people reference Houdini when
999
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:08.280
they talk about things like this because he vehemently tried
1000
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:12.679
to disprove all psychic ability, and after he passed away,
1001
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.199
his wife would have those regular sciences trying to communicate
1002
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.760
with him because they had a code and they still do.
1003
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:19.679
It was just on Ghost Adventures the other day. I
1004
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:21.280
think it was an old season I watched, but.
1005
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.159
They were I just watched that same one too.
1006
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:26.159
Were in the Winchester House. Yes, yeah, And I.
1007
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:30.719
Was like, I love Zach.
1008
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:35.039
I do want to say, No, one psychic is one
1009
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:39.599
hundred percent accurate. No, it's because, like you mentioned, it's
1010
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.840
they you don't know what they're going through. You can
1011
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:47.119
get Robbie to go in, his reading might be completely
1012
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:51.599
different from hers, and it's just because it's different people
1013
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:55.800
with different abilities and the spirits. We always talk about
1014
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:59.559
spirits connecting with different people in different ways. It's people
1015
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:00.320
place time.
1016
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:02.000
Robbie could be.
1017
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.280
The right person at the wrong time, at the right place,
1018
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:09.199
and then someone else goes in it could be the
1019
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.079
right person, right place. So the information is going to
1020
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:13.559
be different.
1021
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:15.719
That makes so much sense.
1022
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:20.039
So it's no one's sidekick is going to be one
1023
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.960
hundred percent accurate. You would have to go in with
1024
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:26.199
almost like a handful of them and piece it together.
1025
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:28.519
And I've done that before. It's pretty cool when you
1026
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.880
have more than one and you're all getting different parts.
1027
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.519
Of the same story, right, and different personalities too, you know,
1028
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:37.639
pick up different that's the way of viewing is different.
1029
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.599
So same as what you just said with athletes. Nobody's
1030
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.159
going to get different ratings, not say one's wrong or
1031
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:44.440
one's right, but it's.
1032
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.199
Different and you can be focused on different things in
1033
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:47.960
the environment.
1034
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:50.679
Yeah, and I think your spiritual background, like your religious
1035
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.559
upbringing and like what you practice currently also affects it
1036
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.039
because I think that you're going to view the lens
1037
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:57.039
of your abilities through that.
1038
00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:57.599
Totally.
1039
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.400
Yeah, I totally agree.
1040
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:05.519
So I have here at the very end because we
1041
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:11.679
need to be wrapping up here about on Noah tips
1042
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:14.400
on choosing a good psychic. So I'm just going to
1043
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:18.000
read them off and you know, let me know your thoughts.
1044
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:20.639
But for those of you out there.
1045
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.039
And I've had a lot of like paranormal investigators contact
1046
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:25.280
me and say, oh, we would really love to have
1047
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:28.679
a psychic, you know, come investigate with us and So
1048
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.320
there are so many people out there that I've run
1049
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:33.960
into that think.
1050
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:36.320
They're psychic and they're not.
1051
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:43.000
And sometimes it could be fraudulent, they may be purposely
1052
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.199
trying to mislead. But other times, and this is like
1053
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:49.760
probably the majority of the time, they just think they
1054
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:53.800
have abilities when they really really don't. So kind of
1055
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:57.960
the advice here is choosing a good psychic. Yes, make
1056
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.199
sure number one makes or.
1057
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.119
They've got genuine ability.
1058
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:06.480
Right, you know, and and that they're not all caught
1059
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:08.800
up in their ego. I've run into some people that
1060
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:10.960
are really caught up in their ego and it's kind
1061
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:13.800
of it's a huge red flag.
1062
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:14.280
Oh yeah.
1063
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:16.360
Like when we were talking a few weeks ago and
1064
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:18.280
I was telling you about some experiences I had, I
1065
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:20.679
said to Cindy, I was like, oh, no, I feel
1066
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:22.719
like I'm trying to get clout here, but I wasn't.
1067
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:27.320
I was just talking about it was just exciting.
1068
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:30.239
This exciting thing happened. And sometimes I feel like that's
1069
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:33.320
different than the ego thing, like, for sure.
1070
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:35.679
Oh that's way different. That's way different.
1071
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:38.599
And I look at those those TV personalities, you know,
1072
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:41.719
and yeah, which is a good example of that, you know,
1073
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.320
where it's kind of like, Hey, I have these special
1074
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:47.599
abilities and I'm going to tell you all of these
1075
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:51.519
things and I'm one hundred percent right, and don't question me.
1076
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:54.360
I don't like that, yeah, because like I've been on
1077
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:58.639
investigations with you before where I got absolutely nothing, and
1078
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.000
I've been on places where I'm like, whoa, this is
1079
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:02.840
popping and this is going on, this is going on.
1080
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:06.960
So it just depends on what it happens, what's going
1081
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:08.119
on in the energy, the else.
1082
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:11.480
The I thinking able to acknowledge that nothing is coming
1083
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:14.440
through is part of the ego thing, because there's some people,
1084
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:16.840
especially like people who want to be fraudulent.
1085
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:18.480
Like oh yeah, we'll make it up on the spot,
1086
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:20.400
and I can't do that. That's just not who I am.
1087
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.400
I feel it. I'm going to tell you I don't
1088
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:23.000
feel anything.
1089
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:23.800
Yeah.
1090
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:27.440
So yeah, humility and both of you, I know I
1091
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.760
know you well enough that yeah, you're you're really humble
1092
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.960
about your abilities and you don't just broadcast them out there.
1093
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:35.719
And to me, another red flag is yeah, come come
1094
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:36.599
to me, coming to me.
1095
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:38.480
I'm going to be doing all these readings and all
1096
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:41.480
this stuff, and you want to know your whole life
1097
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:43.960
story and your future and da Dad, you know, you
1098
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:45.159
just got to be really careful.
1099
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.679
Make sure they have genuine abilities, right, yeah, which goes
1100
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:50.440
into working well with others.
1101
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.559
I want to make sure you know that this is
1102
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:56.119
not somebody that's difficult and is, you know, playing the
1103
00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:56.800
diva card.
1104
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.599
And that's always the biggest red flag is the because
1105
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:05.119
I think a genuine intuitive or we are going to
1106
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:08.400
work well with others, because we feel everyone's energy, so
1107
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:12.000
we adjust. We're not wanting all the attention on us,
1108
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.119
you know. Me, I want to hide enough shadows and
1109
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:16.800
I'll tell you later what I got. Y'all, go do
1110
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:18.000
your thing, you know what I mean.
1111
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:23.239
You accommodate, Oh, definitely, yes. And we've already talked about this.
1112
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:28.320
Realizing that your perceptions are filtered through your own beliefs
1113
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:32.719
and that they're incomplete. You know, it's just another human ability,
1114
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.440
and I think that's that's important to me.
1115
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:37.280
That would be a big.
1116
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:39.639
Red flag of you know, I'm one hundred percent right,
1117
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:43.199
you know, don't question me, you know, and I think
1118
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:44.239
that's not a good thing.
1119
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:46.639
Oh here's a big one too.
1120
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:48.800
I've I've run into folks that claim that they have
1121
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:52.519
psychic abilities and everything when they go into an investigation,
1122
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:57.719
everything is paranormal, everything as it goes behind every corner.
1123
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:01.239
I think even if you have psychic ability, your goal
1124
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:06.199
should be to look for the scientific and look for
1125
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.039
why is this not an active spot?
1126
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:09.480
Right?
1127
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:11.599
Because if you go in expecting it to not be
1128
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:14.360
active and then something happens, then it's like, okay, hold on.
1129
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:18.599
Mm hmm, yeah, I agree with that, but but yeah,
1130
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:20.360
it's kind of like, oh my gosh, there's a demon
1131
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:21.599
in the corner, and there's.
1132
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:24.880
Another ones the ones. That's why I don't tell anyone
1133
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:27.679
when we go. I don't tell anyone to after the
1134
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.400
fact if they ask, because so many people, oh, it's
1135
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.760
a demon or oh it's demonic, or this has happened here,
1136
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:38.599
and I'm just going, but I don't say, you know, yeah, you're.
1137
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.719
Like, oh, just everybody wants it to be demonic every time.
1138
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:43.840
That's demons are hot right now.
1139
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:47.400
Apparently, yeah, they are out there, but I know.
1140
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:52.119
Yeah, but and what people like to be scared, And
1141
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:55.760
I think it's just the it's so shocking, you know,
1142
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:57.840
Oh if it's demonic, oh.
1143
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:00.639
Scary, scary, you know, they have a good story to telling.
1144
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:03.239
Again, I've seen the things we've seen, they really would
1145
00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:03.840
be scared.
1146
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:07.920
Yeah, my gosh.
1147
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:12.440
And finally, and I think this is important too, And
1148
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.400
this kind of goes back to the whole diva thing.
1149
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:18.039
You don't want somebody that takes themselves too seriously.
1150
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:20.920
You know somebody that can, oh, gee, you.
1151
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:21.920
Have to laugh at yourself.
1152
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:26.920
I made a mistake or yeah yeah, And so those
1153
00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:29.400
are those are kind of my type or my tips
1154
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:31.519
for finding a good psychic.
1155
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:34.639
But we've already found good psychics. We're good to go.
1156
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:38.280
Anything else anybody would like to.
1157
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:42.440
Add, you know, here we go, Well, look at you.
1158
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:46.519
Well, when you said when you've seen the things that
1159
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:48.599
we've seen, her eyes got real wide, like what am
1160
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:49.000
I doing?
1161
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:54.519
Yeah, no, I've I mean it's there, it's yeah, because
1162
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:57.239
it's one of those things it takes them getting used to.
1163
00:55:58.159 --> 00:55:58.800
Yeah.
1164
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:03.719
And it's my tip is if I had to put
1165
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:07.679
a tip in, I never recommend myself. That's my thing.
1166
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:08.639
I don't either.
1167
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:09.559
I don't.
1168
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:14.400
I will always recommend somebody else. And just because I
1169
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.480
know Robbie the best, My go to is typically Robbie.
1170
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:23.719
But I don't ever recommend myself for anything, like if
1171
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:25.599
someone's like, oh, can you go do this.
1172
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:28.519
I'm like, nope, I won't go either, because, like I
1173
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:30.559
just said, if I go and I pick up nothing,
1174
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:33.519
they'll be like he's a god. Yeah I'll go if
1175
00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:35.800
you're my friend, and if I see something, I'll tell
1176
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:36.320
you if not.
1177
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.599
I've had that happen where somebody got my info through
1178
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:42.559
somebody else asked me for a reading and I was like,
1179
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:45.119
not really feeling it, but I went anyways and nothing
1180
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.440
came through, and then it turned into a whole debacle
1181
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:49.119
and people are like, she doesn't know what she's doing.
1182
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.960
It's like because it's not always gonna come through, And
1183
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:55.840
I'm like, you run a marathon every day, Yeah I will.
1184
00:56:56.119 --> 00:57:00.480
I will say, try to find slash, get as much
1185
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:06.519
information as you possibly can beforehand, and then summarize it
1186
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:12.320
for if you're gonna send a medium in and be like, hey,
1187
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:14.639
this is for so and so, this is what they're
1188
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:19.000
looking for. This is the generalization of what's going on.
1189
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:20.760
I like going in cold.
1190
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:24.440
So I like, for me, I'll be like, this is
1191
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:29.920
so and so whatever and what it's like, Okay, but
1192
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:34.320
that's just me because then even if they don't, if
1193
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:38.679
they want it cold, I kind of know. And so
1194
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:44.239
then if they're asking me questions and be like, okay, validate. Yeah,
1195
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:46.599
it's validating.
1196
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:50.079
That hotel when I walked in, yes getting anything and
1197
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.119
I said, just a little girl. Well then that made
1198
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:54.440
sense to all of y'all and y'all told me later.
1199
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:59.320
Right, yes, And I do think it helped like that
1200
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:01.679
kind of thing, hope, Like that same night when I
1201
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:03.960
told Robby, I was like, we don't need to be
1202
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.880
going in this room, and he didn't know, and then
1203
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:08.960
we ended up getting it later as to why, and
1204
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:10.800
he's like, that makes sense now mm hm.
1205
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:13.320
So that's why I like to go in cold. Y'all
1206
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.440
can know what's going on, and then when I say
1207
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:18.480
it and y'all validate it, it makes me feel better.
1208
00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:21.519
Like like you said earlier, don't think your nuts.
1209
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:22.039
Yeah exactly.
1210
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:23.960
It's like that triangulation piece.
1211
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.760
And like I said, and that's why it's it's so
1212
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:29.440
great to have people with different abilities on the investigations
1213
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:32.840
where it's kind of like, okay, I can I can
1214
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.719
validate that with information I know, and Georgina can look
1215
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:39.119
things up historically, and you know, we've got these psychic
1216
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.559
impressions and the witness testimony, and then it creates a.
1217
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:43.639
Really accurate picture.
1218
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:45.400
You have to build a whole Casemile.
1219
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:46.039
Yes.
1220
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:50.360
Yes, It's like when we did the hotel, wasn't that
1221
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:50.960
the hotel?
1222
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:54.599
And I told everything I was getting. Georgina had already
1223
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:57.440
researched it on and had the proof, so she said, yes,
1224
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:01.039
we have newspapers that validate that date that but me
1225
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.719
personally wanted to go in not knowing anything.
1226
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:06.519
Yeah, that was the Liberty Hotel in Cleeburn.
1227
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.440
Yeah, but I'm talking about the hotel and was it
1228
00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:13.199
Marlon Mark where we did.
1229
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:17.639
The oh the Falls Hotel? Yeah, to the theater.
1230
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:21.239
Yes, I remember. I was saying somebody's jumped or fell
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off of this and whatever, and Georgiane is like, yeah,
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I've already pulled or we have newspaper documents that that
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backs that up.
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Yeah, And I love get. That's when I get.
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We're really excited is when y'all are coming up with
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information and it's verified, and it's like.
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Yes, it makes us feel better too.
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Yes, yes, I think one I to go kind of
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a little off topic. One misconception about people who have
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these abilities is that we're never afraid of anything, because
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I have encountered things like you said, when you've seen
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things We've seen.
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I've encountered things that have scared the crap out of me.
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Oh me too. Yeah, we're not invincible, that's what. Yeah.
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I think that's a big misconception. A lot of people
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have was like, Oh, you're not afraid of any I'm like, no,
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I just pretend I'm not. I'm like the little kid
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puffing my chest up like I got this.
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Through it.
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Well. Yeah, and I mean I can understand that too,
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because you're seeing so much more than somebody like me.
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That's kind of birthed her. I'm just going in blind.
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I try to go in like that.
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Yeah, but you don't because you already see things and
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experience things so differently and so much more intently.
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So okay, any any last words.
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We're good, all right, Caroline.
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My friends call me Tangina, so that's pretty all right.
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Well, thank you all for coming on.
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Thank you.
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It was fun. And with that, I think we're going
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to sign up see you next time.
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