Facing Prostate Cancer Together with Douglas R. Short

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Hey everyone, just to let you know we were outside recording and there was a little bit of interference at the beginning of this, but I still hope that you'll enjoy and listen to some important information throughout this.
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Have a great day.
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Welcome, welcome everyone.
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Today to Randy's Ramps and Reviews Live.
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I'm so excited to have with me Douglas R.
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Short, who I consider a very dear friend.
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And Doug, will you tell everyone about the R venture show with?
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You only have an hour.
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I know.
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The latest venture of the Douglas R short show.
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So uh well, we first met Debbie Battery.
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Then I was gonna do this wonderful automatic book on how you control your life keep on everything else.
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Get your life in order and right playing people.
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Oh, yeah, that's right.
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And actually for an affordable price.
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Okay, so you have to understand that guys.
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We're stupid.
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And I say that with all the love I have for us because we don't go to document.
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Right.
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It'll pass, you know, whatever.
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And so I just don't know.
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I would go to the bathroom more often, it should be nothing more than getting older.
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I hear that's what you do, getting a little bit older.
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I figured no big deal.
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I'm down at Rick's Branch helping ready for the writing retreat back in 2023.
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And she every half hour.
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Oh my.
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And I'm saying, okay, now that's hard to do there at the ranch.
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No, yeah, especially if you're not close.
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Right, yeah.
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With some real urgency.
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And I'm saying this is a normal one.
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Then I actually stepped out by the fire.
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Uh-huh.
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And I was jumping out of my sleeping bag every half hour.
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Oh wow.
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I said, okay, this really is.
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Then on the right room, I had to stop every half hour and pretend I was getting something out of the back seat of the passenger side, which guys know what that means.
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And I said, okay, I've got to finally go to a doctor.
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Yeah.
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So I got an appointment the next Monday for that Friday.
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And I went in on Friday, and my doctor was giving me the exam, and we're going through things.
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And I'm literally thinking, okay, I've just got overactic ladder.
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Right.
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You know, the idea of prostate cancer did not even come across.
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Right.
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Even though my dad had it, my grandpa had it, and it's already.
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But I'm being danced.
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I'm looking things up on what it means to have an overaction bladder.
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Uh what I'd have to give up.
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Okay, well if I have to.
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Right.
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Well, he stopped my exam in the middle of it.
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I'm just getting the full physical.
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I had turned out I hadn't been in for physical for about 20 years.
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Oh, that's a while.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And you know, your followers probably think I'm really old still, but I'm actually 63.
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He's very young.
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He's good.
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I was actually 63 at the time.
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And so I haven't been there since I was in your 40s.
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In my 30s, 40s.
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Yeah, wow.
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This is not when they start checking you for that.
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So he stopped and says, Well, you need to go to urologist.
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He doesn't say anything about water.
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You just need to go to a urologist.
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I said, Okay, well, that makes sense if I have no urologist.
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Somewhere I'll find one.
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He said, Oh no, you're going to get now.
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I'm starting to say, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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What do you mean today?
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I'm going to go find oh here's a referral.
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Oh my goodness.
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And he leaves the office, and I'm just sitting there saying uh okay.
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What's going on?
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And then of course I have to put the bathroom.
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So he comes back, he says, okay, I've got some pages down the street who's gonna pitch in.
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So I go down the street and he gives me the exam as well.
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We're talking the DRE, the good old digital directal exam.
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And he says, Oh yeah.
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Because it turns out that my prostate and prostate's only about the size of a walnut.
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Right, yeah.
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Well, half of it was about the size of a foot and a half.
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Oh wow.
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And that's why my and my primary care doctor shout out to John.
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That's the large practice.
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Oh wow.
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That's why you just stopped everything.
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Well, it's probably too.
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Thank heaven.
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Nobody says the series.
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No, of course not.
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Go to the urologist says, okay, well, yeah, we need to check and see what it is, what's going on.
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And one of the reasons nobody knows anything about prostate cancer is because it's filming with it's all down there.
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It's all down there.
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That's not the last thing we want to talk about.
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It's down there, except for other things.
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But yes.
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Well, right, right behind women's plumbing.
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Right, exactly.
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No, it's not bang.
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You end up with I feel like bang.
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That sounds like a bag.
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Overlap or every step.
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Or you can have a second.
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So we continue that legacy.
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Oh, well that's coming out.
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Oh yeah.
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They're not kidney stones.
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The butt flatter stones, yeah.
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Oh wait, I've never heard of what a flatter stone was.
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It looked like little mentos floating around.
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Yeah, they're bud, yeah.
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And I didn't just have one, I had two.
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Oh.
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Ouch.
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So what was happening is every time I had to go to the bathroom, I would start going, and it acts like a ball valve.
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And it blocks it, yep.
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Blocks the urethra, and you're done going, but you're not empty.
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Yeah.
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And so uh, okay, well, now we know why.
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Uh you're not going.
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So it really wasn't even prostate cancer that got me to go in and triggered the exam.
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Right.
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So then all the testing starts and everything else, and I don't know how much of that you want to know.
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But it's an experience because it's it's a real roller coaster.
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Because we men, you know, men don't understand it.
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Yeah, and the uh women really don't understand.
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Yeah, you know, because oh yeah, this is a purity guy thing.
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Yeah, and so uh I had no idea what a prostate was.
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Yeah, I'll be honest.
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You're like, I've got men parts, and that's what I've got, and we're good.
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It works, it works.
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I I don't need to mess with anything, right?
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Uh so that now I'm trying to figure out what you know the prostate is and uh and going through all that.
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Yeah, things are starting to click a little bit more.
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And uh they end up going through and actually they do an MRI first because that will show um Sarah.
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You can talk to my husband, he'll help you.
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Enjoy it being live.
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She didn't know I was an author.
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There you go.
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You can ask him a question.
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So uh what they do first is an MRI, just see if it's spread.
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Right, yeah.
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No, first they're seeing if there's any catch up there.
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But you're all just not saying the secret.
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Right.
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I mean, I keep telling, listen, I'm an attorney, I know why you're not saying it.
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Don't worry about it.
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You can say it.
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Tell me what's going on.
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Well, we won't know until we check.
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Yeah.
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And so they do that, and I get word that my results are done, and the tech that calls me just says, Yeah, your results are done.
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Don't worry.
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Oh, wow, you're really lit up down there.
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Yeah.
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Well, see you later.
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It hangs up.
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And doesn't tell you anything.
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Doesn't tell me anything.
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Oh my heaven.
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Now I'm sitting here, I don't have a doctor's appointment lined up.
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It's after hours.
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Next day I'm trying to get in and find out what that means.
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And they say, well, it's spread.
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You know, it's all it's already past the prostate itself.
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And we'll talk about this in mental because the climate makes a real difference.
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Right, yeah.
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When it gets discovered, and it's already spread throughout that area.
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Oh my god.
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Uh okay.
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So I thought what that means.
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Okay, whatever.
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Yeah.
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And sometimes it can reach this place.
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And sometimes it can also be dangerous.
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Yeah.
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And so we ended up uh the next thing you do is a biopsy.
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They go in, get snips.
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Take 16 snips out of the prostate.
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Oh, lovely.
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That sounds like are you asleep at least during this?
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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Oh my gosh.
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You got a local, got a local and I don't know why God put any appealings in the prostate.
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But he did.
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Totally that's a theory.
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To me, I don't think that the prostate needs any appealings at all, but we definitely felt each and every step.
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Right.
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And when they got that back, they did the exam and they looked at it and gave me a Gleason score of nine.
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Which I don't know.
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Whatever that means, right?
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I'd still say, well, what does that mean?
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Well, it turns out that they look at the most common cell that's got cancer and see how deformed it is.
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Oh.
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The more deformed it is, the higher number.
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And then they look at the second.
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So they take those two numbers, add them together.
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So it goes on a scale of two to ten.
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Can be in the highest.
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I was gonna say, is this number out of 50?
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No, nine, it's out of ten.
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How high?
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So I've already and that is the highest category of risk for how aggressive prostate cancer is.
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Uh so I've already got extreme size, which is an indicator it's aggressive.
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Uh-huh.
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My PSA was 126.
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It should be two to four.
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If it's over 10, you have about 50% probability that you got kicked.
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So I was at 126.
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The highest my doctor had, except for one big quality, and never came back.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay.
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And that means it's definitely spread by the time you get to 400.
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Right, yeah, it's gonna be bad.
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So now I've hit the tripecta with all three of the markers for high risk.
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So the one thing you never say to somebody with prostate cancer is, oh, you got the good cancer.
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There's no such thing as a good cancer.
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I'm sorry, there just isn't.
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It doesn't matter.
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Isn't and this is one of the reasons I'm doing a newsletter because the media does this all the time.
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They're trying to put men at ease, but what they're doing is they're creating a false notion that it doesn't kill you.
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But it does, it does.
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Yeah.
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So it usually falls into two caves.
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Right.
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You have about 80% of the men that get diagnosed with prostate cancer, have you know they call it passive indolent.
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It's nothing to really worry about on that Gleason scale.
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You're under six.
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Right, yeah.
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And so what they do in that case is they get but for that other 20%, so you know one out of five men get prostate cancer, which is the highest uh cancer ever.
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For men I think it's high.
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I think for men I think it is high.
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Um I'm forgetting this is why I do a newsletter.
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Right.
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Because the brain fog makes me forget the and cancer brain fog is so real, you guys.
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It's so real.
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Very real, and it's been a turn scared me to death.
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Yeah.
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So there you go.
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Right.
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But you know, but the other 20%.
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Oh, the other 20% are really risky.
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Dying, yeah, that's it can be very fatal, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And when you get diagnosed, that goes a long way to determine how fatal it might be.
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And so I was very lucky.
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My ignorance is still my killer.
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I mean, I have to face that back out because it has read so much before I got a check.
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Right.
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Uh you know, I waited 20 years.
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You know, if I would have got it earlier when it would be a year, I'd be off golf.
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Right.
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I'm glad you're here with me talking, but I wish it was something else.
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Yes, yeah, for sure.
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Yeah.
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Well, but you know, once I realized how ignorant I was and how important it is.
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Trying not to be as ignorant now.
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Yeah.
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This is much more important than golf.
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It's even more important than the Utah game right now.
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But we should schedule this on an await.
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Oh, good for me.
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Good job.
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Yeah.
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Recording, nobody called me and tell me this.
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So now I'm well, what does all this mean?
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Right.
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And my urologist, once he got back the MRI and got the biopsy, now he is anxious.
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And the C word is coming out.
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I'm forcing him to say the C word.
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And up till then he was passive.
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Frustrating passive.
00:16:39.710 --> 00:16:42.110
Because he's vigor, and he even says this to me.
00:16:42.590 --> 00:16:45.710
Don't worry, if it is cancer, you're just gonna die.
00:16:46.830 --> 00:16:48.190
It's not going to kill you.
00:16:48.590 --> 00:16:49.550
Okay, that's nice.
00:16:49.710 --> 00:16:50.110
Thank you.
00:16:50.350 --> 00:16:51.470
That was before the biopsy.
00:16:51.950 --> 00:16:52.270
Oh.
00:16:52.750 --> 00:16:57.630
After the biopsy, okay, we need to get huge set for full body scan.
00:16:58.030 --> 00:16:58.590
Oh, wow.
00:16:58.830 --> 00:17:02.510
Because we need to know whether this is spread, if it's metastasized.
00:17:02.750 --> 00:17:03.310
Right.
00:17:03.630 --> 00:17:11.150
So, unlike some cancers, you know, that's either there or metastasized, prostate has this kind of intermediate state.
00:17:11.470 --> 00:17:11.870
Uh-huh.
00:17:12.029 --> 00:17:15.230
Uh stage three, where they call it locally advanced.
00:17:15.710 --> 00:17:16.029
Right.
00:17:16.269 --> 00:17:18.910
Which means it's spread around that area.
00:17:19.069 --> 00:17:19.470
Uh-huh.
00:17:20.190 --> 00:17:23.390
Uh but it hasn't really spread out.
00:17:23.710 --> 00:17:24.190
Right.
00:17:24.750 --> 00:17:32.750
And as my oncologist, I didn't know my oncologist, but as he explained, he says, you're at stage three, knocking on stage four to go.
00:17:33.390 --> 00:17:34.990
Oh, right on the edge.
00:17:35.390 --> 00:17:36.269
Right on the edge.
00:17:36.990 --> 00:17:40.910
And so we're gonna do surgery and take it out.
00:17:40.990 --> 00:17:42.430
That's one of the really common things.
00:17:42.670 --> 00:17:52.110
Just take the whole prostate out, remove the source of the cancer, and for 98% of the command, that actually takes care of it.
00:17:54.990 --> 00:17:58.910
My dad had 30 plus years ago, and he's probably fine, he's 92.
00:17:59.549 --> 00:17:59.789
Right.
00:17:59.870 --> 00:18:00.029
Yeah.
00:18:01.710 --> 00:18:15.470
Uh so I was set up for prostate surgery, had the pre-surgery contact uh meeting with the surgeon, and said, Well, they say it's pretty dark.
00:18:15.630 --> 00:18:19.310
He looks up at the screen and says, Oh, oh wow.
00:18:19.630 --> 00:18:20.430
Oh dear.
00:18:20.910 --> 00:18:23.870
Which is not what you want to hear, not what you want to hear.
00:18:24.110 --> 00:18:26.750
No, you don't want that, you don't want that surgeon emphasis, oh dear.
00:18:26.990 --> 00:18:28.190
That's that's secondary thing.
00:18:28.910 --> 00:18:31.390
You definitely don't want to hear him saying oops on the table.
00:18:31.789 --> 00:18:34.110
No, that's that's the next by the yeah.
00:18:34.430 --> 00:18:38.350
But we set it up, we've got the appointment set for the next week.
00:18:38.430 --> 00:18:40.990
And he calls like two days ahead and says, you know what?
00:18:41.150 --> 00:18:44.910
I've looked at this and we're not gonna do the surgery.
00:18:45.390 --> 00:18:58.110
Oh he said it has spread so close to your rectum that if I make one misspit, you're gonna pull off me back the rest of your body.
00:18:58.269 --> 00:18:59.150
Oh gosh.
00:18:59.390 --> 00:19:08.509
And this was after in the uh pre-surgery conference, he said, Well, there is a risk that you might be inconfident with the rest of your body.
00:19:08.750 --> 00:19:09.150
Agree.
00:19:09.470 --> 00:19:09.950
Yay!
00:19:10.190 --> 00:19:14.350
You know, a lot of guys they recover, but some don't, right?
00:19:14.910 --> 00:19:18.990
I think you said maybe five percent still have problems for the rest of their lives.
00:19:19.230 --> 00:19:21.150
Okay, so is this a good cancer?
00:19:21.310 --> 00:19:24.910
I'm saying I'm not no, we're not having a good time with this at all, though.
00:19:25.150 --> 00:19:29.870
So we can't so we cancel surgery, still had to have what they call the rotor.
00:19:30.910 --> 00:19:32.350
Oh, oh fine.
00:19:32.430 --> 00:19:34.029
That doesn't sound like any fun at all.
00:19:34.110 --> 00:19:36.350
No, you can imagine what the rotor rooter is.
00:19:36.590 --> 00:19:41.390
This is the process large strings in the urethra.
00:19:41.789 --> 00:19:45.310
So they go in, scrape that out, and then they had to get the flatter cells.
00:19:45.789 --> 00:19:46.110
Right.
00:19:46.350 --> 00:19:48.029
Stuff get those out, but you're not gonna be able to do that.
00:19:48.110 --> 00:19:49.789
And I felt crazy.
00:19:50.029 --> 00:19:50.670
Oh bad.
00:19:51.230 --> 00:19:53.470
Things were blowing.
00:19:53.630 --> 00:19:53.950
Yeah.
00:19:54.110 --> 00:19:55.789
Just the way they were supposed to be.
00:19:56.190 --> 00:20:00.910
Um but then you put me on hormotherapy.
00:20:01.789 --> 00:20:03.870
I remember that summer, yeah.
00:20:06.590 --> 00:20:09.390
You know, the cancer fatigue is one thing.
00:20:09.630 --> 00:20:11.470
This is the thing about prostate cancer.
00:20:11.870 --> 00:20:19.950
What you do is you trade all of the symptoms of the cancer, magnify it by 10 degrees as side effects in the treatments.
00:20:20.350 --> 00:20:21.630
The treatments are worse than the cancer.
00:20:22.029 --> 00:20:22.430
Cancer, yeah.
00:20:22.910 --> 00:20:24.750
Almost all of the cancers are that way.
00:20:25.150 --> 00:20:25.310
Yeah.
00:20:25.630 --> 00:20:26.670
Especially if you wait too long.
00:20:26.910 --> 00:20:27.230
Exactly.
00:20:27.310 --> 00:20:27.390
Yeah.
00:20:30.830 --> 00:20:31.630
Let's get you out there.
00:20:32.509 --> 00:20:33.150
A lot better.
00:20:33.390 --> 00:20:33.789
Yeah.
00:20:34.029 --> 00:20:37.470
Uh and so what they put you on is lute.
00:20:37.870 --> 00:20:40.509
Well, this is what they put me on, there's different brands.
00:20:40.750 --> 00:20:43.630
They put me on luteron, and that makes your body stop.
00:20:44.990 --> 00:20:47.710
That's also because cancer eats.
00:20:48.590 --> 00:20:49.310
It feeds it.
00:20:49.710 --> 00:20:52.190
It feeds it, that's what causes it to spread.
00:20:52.670 --> 00:20:55.630
So you know, you're trying to start at that point.
00:20:57.150 --> 00:21:03.789
And what it really is chemical castration.
00:21:04.509 --> 00:21:04.910
Right.
00:21:05.310 --> 00:21:06.509
They don't use those words.
00:21:06.910 --> 00:21:07.550
But that's what it is.
00:21:08.190 --> 00:21:09.310
That is exactly what it is.
00:21:09.390 --> 00:21:17.630
So when they're talking about what they would do with pedophiles and eliminate their demands, the drive, what whatever, yeah.
00:21:18.670 --> 00:21:22.750
That's what they do with the prostate cancers to be stopping.
00:21:23.390 --> 00:21:25.390
Um, and and the fatigue.
00:21:25.630 --> 00:21:27.310
You know, you hear all the commercials.
00:21:27.470 --> 00:21:27.789
Uh-huh.
00:21:28.190 --> 00:21:33.230
Man, got problems with erectile dysfunction, you just need more testosterone.
00:21:33.470 --> 00:21:33.710
Right.
00:21:33.950 --> 00:21:36.830
When you're tired, you just need more testosterone, yeah.
00:21:37.070 --> 00:21:41.470
And so here they are saying that, and me, they're saying, we're gonna take you down to zero.
00:21:42.029 --> 00:21:42.830
You get nothing.
00:21:43.070 --> 00:21:44.110
You get nothing.
00:21:44.350 --> 00:21:45.390
Oh wow.
00:21:45.870 --> 00:21:47.950
And it just wipes you out.
00:21:48.110 --> 00:21:49.150
A brain fog.
00:21:49.950 --> 00:21:50.910
Yeah, I can imagine.
00:21:51.230 --> 00:21:56.110
I already had there different people, everybody's body's different.
00:21:56.670 --> 00:22:02.509
Some people drink don't have much brain fog, but I had a lot of brain fog from the cancer itself.
00:22:02.830 --> 00:22:12.430
But then once the testosterone now I could work for maybe two, three, four hours a day.
00:22:13.230 --> 00:22:17.710
And then I wipe out my brain clock wiped me out.
00:22:17.870 --> 00:22:24.910
I'd be sitting on my computer and I'd say, okay, I need to write up a memo, I need to research this, and I'd turn to my other screen.
00:22:25.070 --> 00:22:32.110
And in the time I went from looking at my main screen title to looking at my screen over here that I use for research.
00:22:33.789 --> 00:22:34.750
Oh my goodness.
00:22:35.870 --> 00:22:39.390
And then I have to go back and I'm trying to find where I was working.
00:22:40.350 --> 00:22:41.789
Oh yeah, that's what it's like.
00:22:42.029 --> 00:22:44.830
And I'm kind of doing this thing, you know, trying to watch it.
00:22:47.950 --> 00:22:51.630
Uh things that you'd be good for about two hours.
00:22:52.029 --> 00:22:55.550
But as the day would go on, my productivity would drop.
00:22:55.789 --> 00:23:01.150
Things that would take fifteen minutes a half hour and forty-five minutes.
00:23:06.670 --> 00:23:10.830
One of the brain clock things surprised me.
00:23:12.750 --> 00:23:13.470
Oh, really?
00:23:14.830 --> 00:23:16.269
But that seems strange.
00:23:16.590 --> 00:23:18.590
Then I start missing deadlines.
00:23:19.310 --> 00:23:20.910
Because I didn't get a calendar.
00:23:21.230 --> 00:24:51.530
I didn't know what day it was.
00:24:52.810 --> 00:24:55.210
I still have that hard time and I do put the calendar.
00:24:55.610 --> 00:24:57.610
Yeah, so that was getting scary as return.
00:24:58.650 --> 00:24:59.690
You can't miss dates, yeah.
00:25:00.090 --> 00:25:04.730
You can't work on an hourly basis when it takes you four hours to do something that should take one.
00:25:05.130 --> 00:25:07.930
Right, because you're charging up the hour and people aren't gonna like that at all.
00:25:08.170 --> 00:25:10.010
Yeah, you can't be missing deadlines, etc.
00:25:10.250 --> 00:25:11.530
So I actually had to go practicing.
00:25:11.850 --> 00:25:12.890
Oh, I'm so sorry.
00:25:13.210 --> 00:25:15.610
Which you know, that was my profession.
00:25:16.490 --> 00:25:16.730
Right.
00:25:17.130 --> 00:25:20.090
In that respect, I still just parallel work.
00:25:20.490 --> 00:25:27.770
But the other big thing about prostate cancer is the stress they've proven positive distress.
00:25:28.490 --> 00:25:29.930
They still don't know whether it's cause it.
00:25:30.410 --> 00:25:33.130
The chronic stress beats it as well.
00:25:33.450 --> 00:25:35.130
Beats it and they prove it.
00:25:36.010 --> 00:25:41.050
So I mean a litigation attorney is a little bit stressful.
00:25:41.370 --> 00:25:41.850
Right, yeah.
00:25:47.850 --> 00:25:48.170
Right.
00:25:49.770 --> 00:25:53.850
Some days just don't even get out of the yeah, you know.
00:25:54.010 --> 00:25:56.730
So gave that up in 2023.
00:25:57.450 --> 00:26:00.810
Uh and retired.
00:26:02.010 --> 00:26:04.650
But you can't retire, retire and you've died.
00:26:04.970 --> 00:26:05.610
Right.
00:26:05.850 --> 00:26:10.250
I mean, that's me, it's more stressed to not be working than it is to work sometimes.
00:26:10.490 --> 00:26:11.770
So you have to find other stuff.
00:26:11.850 --> 00:26:13.450
So now I'm to the writing state.
00:26:13.530 --> 00:26:15.130
I'm saying, okay, I've always wanted to write.
00:26:15.610 --> 00:26:16.970
I've had this book in my mind.
00:26:17.290 --> 00:26:17.770
Yes.
00:26:18.010 --> 00:26:22.490
I even had four or five chapters that I just wrote one night.
00:26:22.810 --> 00:26:23.210
Oh, good.
00:26:23.450 --> 00:26:23.850
There you go.
00:26:24.010 --> 00:26:28.570
Did I read that to you for about the night theep.
00:26:29.130 --> 00:26:30.490
And I love writing.
00:26:30.650 --> 00:26:31.290
Yeah.
00:26:32.010 --> 00:26:36.250
And so I was already to do this Augmentino style book.
00:26:36.970 --> 00:26:45.370
And Rick was introducing me into the uh thing, and and he's got prostate cancer.
00:26:45.450 --> 00:26:46.650
He announced the whole thing.
00:26:46.810 --> 00:26:48.410
You're like they everyone else.
00:26:48.650 --> 00:26:50.890
And I'm okay because you know we've talked.
00:26:51.530 --> 00:26:52.490
People have to know.
00:26:52.890 --> 00:26:53.610
Yeah, they do.
00:26:53.930 --> 00:26:55.930
Most of the writers down there were women.
00:26:56.410 --> 00:26:57.370
And we're like, what?
00:26:57.930 --> 00:27:02.650
And it was very two of the women in that group had lost their husband to prostate cancer.
00:27:02.970 --> 00:27:03.450
Oh wow.
00:27:03.930 --> 00:27:04.890
The odds of that happening.
00:27:06.170 --> 00:27:07.210
That's not a coincidence.
00:27:07.450 --> 00:27:07.690
No.
00:27:08.090 --> 00:27:16.890
And it was also interesting that one of them had was a very dear, sweet, tender boss.
00:27:17.850 --> 00:27:20.810
The other one, he had turned into a bit of a monster.
00:27:21.290 --> 00:27:21.770
Oh no.
00:27:21.930 --> 00:27:24.730
And she actually had to take him out of the house for her own safety.
00:27:24.970 --> 00:27:25.930
Oh wow.
00:27:26.650 --> 00:27:30.090
So again, it's not the same for everybody.
00:27:30.410 --> 00:27:30.650
No.
00:27:31.210 --> 00:27:38.090
But others were coming up and saying, Well, my father had it, my grandfather had it.
00:27:38.330 --> 00:27:40.330
My father-in-law is going through it right now.
00:27:40.570 --> 00:27:41.130
Right.
00:27:41.850 --> 00:27:46.490
And it just became the focus of all the conversations.
00:27:47.530 --> 00:27:51.770
I'm going to bed one night and it just came very clear.
00:27:52.010 --> 00:27:58.730
You need to write a book about prostate cancer explaining it to the family.
00:27:59.290 --> 00:27:59.770
Right.
00:28:00.090 --> 00:28:01.210
Because there's a lot of stuff.
00:28:01.370 --> 00:28:04.970
We as the guys get all the clinical stuff and we can analyze it.
00:28:05.610 --> 00:28:05.850
Right.
00:28:06.330 --> 00:28:07.130
Nice and neat.
00:28:07.690 --> 00:28:10.490
But the relationships are emotional.
00:28:11.530 --> 00:28:12.170
Yeah.
00:28:12.490 --> 00:28:13.530
There's nothing else.
00:28:14.330 --> 00:28:19.210
There's no manual for your lymphatic cancer if it was gonna happen.
00:28:19.770 --> 00:28:21.770
And I started checking, there's only one or two books.
00:28:22.490 --> 00:28:23.130
Right, yeah.
00:28:23.370 --> 00:28:25.530
But you know, so it is a roller coaster.
00:28:26.010 --> 00:28:33.770
In fact, one of the ladies there uh was actually a what's I write psychosis.
00:28:34.090 --> 00:28:35.930
Forgive me, Becky, if I've got it wrong.
00:28:36.890 --> 00:28:46.410
Uh but we actually started talking about writing this together because we've got all of the psychological side to it, having gone through it three times.
00:28:46.730 --> 00:28:47.690
Oh my heaven.
00:28:48.010 --> 00:28:52.090
She went through with her brother-in-law right after her sister died.
00:28:52.250 --> 00:28:52.970
Oh my heaven.
00:28:53.130 --> 00:28:57.530
So she took care of him, went through it with her father, and then her partner died.
00:28:57.770 --> 00:28:58.650
Oh my goodness.
00:28:58.890 --> 00:28:59.450
Wow.
00:28:59.690 --> 00:29:01.050
So she's well versed in it.
00:29:01.450 --> 00:29:02.970
Very well-versed in it.
00:29:03.530 --> 00:29:09.210
And so we started working on the book, and it wasn't coming yet.
00:29:09.370 --> 00:29:09.850
Right.
00:29:10.330 --> 00:29:13.930
Because it's too much, just give us this, that.
00:29:14.170 --> 00:29:14.490
Right.
00:29:14.970 --> 00:29:17.050
It's not a sit down and read through.
00:29:17.610 --> 00:29:18.570
Kind of thing, right.
00:29:19.210 --> 00:29:22.810
And then and Becky was still going through it.
00:29:24.970 --> 00:29:31.130
Uh but anyway, she was still going through it, and it just wasn't working until she actually backed out.
00:29:31.610 --> 00:29:31.930
Right.
00:29:33.930 --> 00:29:38.330
And I started to get feeds coming in on how to do newsletters.
00:29:39.370 --> 00:29:40.330
I started thinking about it.
00:29:40.570 --> 00:29:42.170
Newsletter makes a whole lot more sense.
00:29:42.490 --> 00:29:42.650
Right.
00:29:42.810 --> 00:29:44.330
You can get those little snippets out.
00:29:45.130 --> 00:29:47.610
Little snippets, a little story specific.
00:29:48.250 --> 00:29:51.210
And on top of that, it's changing.
00:29:52.490 --> 00:29:56.330
Uh prostate cancer treatment is still basically in its influence.
00:29:56.490 --> 00:30:01.370
They only discovered how to test back in 1990s.
00:30:01.690 --> 00:30:01.930
Right.
00:30:02.090 --> 00:30:06.090
Yeah, when they first came out with those tests, like they test it with blood tests, yeah.
00:30:06.330 --> 00:30:06.650
Yeah.
00:30:06.890 --> 00:30:10.250
And so prior to that, they always relied on the finger exam.
00:30:10.410 --> 00:30:11.130
Guys aren't going in.
00:30:11.610 --> 00:30:12.570
They get it tested, yeah.
00:30:15.210 --> 00:30:16.810
They're not getting any notification.
00:30:16.890 --> 00:30:17.210
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:17.530 --> 00:30:22.010
And so by the time they actually realize something is wrong, they're already full of stage.
00:30:22.170 --> 00:30:22.250
Yeah.
00:30:22.410 --> 00:30:23.930
It's like pancreatic cancer.
00:30:24.330 --> 00:30:25.850
There's no real early indicator.
00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:27.370
There's not, yeah.
00:30:27.690 --> 00:30:32.810
So prostate cancer, just at least pancreatic cancer, don't get tested.
00:30:33.210 --> 00:30:34.090
Exactly.
00:30:34.330 --> 00:30:37.610
You know, it might be a longer, slower death.
00:30:38.010 --> 00:30:41.930
But it's still just as painful and very painful.
00:30:42.170 --> 00:30:46.330
You know, one of the Facebook groups I'm on is for dolls in stage four.
00:30:46.490 --> 00:30:46.970
Uh-huh.
00:30:47.290 --> 00:30:49.450
And it's a real candidate.
00:30:50.090 --> 00:30:52.810
It's one of the best pubs you ever want to be in.
00:30:54.090 --> 00:30:59.690
But the warriors support each other, they share, they ask.
00:31:00.490 --> 00:31:02.090
I didn't think it's 63.
00:31:02.170 --> 00:31:03.770
I still have potty talk.
00:31:04.010 --> 00:31:04.330
Yeah.
00:31:04.490 --> 00:31:06.170
Lots of potty talk for literally.
00:31:07.450 --> 00:31:08.810
Lots of potty talk.
00:31:09.370 --> 00:31:17.610
Uh, you know, and a lot of sex talk about erectile dysfunction and all that because all the things that affects.
00:31:17.770 --> 00:31:18.010
Yeah.
00:31:18.250 --> 00:31:20.090
And that's why they call it the couples cancer.
00:31:20.490 --> 00:31:22.890
Because it can kill a relationship so fast.
00:31:23.290 --> 00:31:24.970
Faster than it'll kill the cat.
00:31:25.370 --> 00:31:25.690
Yeah.
00:31:25.850 --> 00:31:31.530
And so that's one of the reasons I really felt like I need to write this for the spouse so that they could know and understand.
00:31:31.850 --> 00:31:33.370
For the kids, they don't know what they're doing.
00:31:33.770 --> 00:31:34.890
And even for parents.
00:31:35.130 --> 00:31:35.530
Right.
00:31:35.770 --> 00:31:38.730
You know, uh, my parents are still five.
00:31:38.970 --> 00:31:39.370
Yeah.
00:31:39.610 --> 00:31:43.690
And even though my dad went through what he went through, it's very different than what I'm going through.
00:31:44.010 --> 00:31:44.570
Right.
00:31:44.890 --> 00:31:53.530
And so getting that information out there in the newsletter just makes a whole lot of sense.
00:31:55.450 --> 00:31:57.290
So that's where we're setting up right now.
00:31:57.450 --> 00:31:58.970
I was hoping to have it done.
00:31:59.290 --> 00:31:59.610
Yeah.
00:31:59.850 --> 00:32:01.850
But I took off on a buckle bus trip.
00:32:02.490 --> 00:32:05.050
You know, I think a buckle bus trip is a good example.
00:32:05.450 --> 00:32:08.010
You get to that point when you're facing it.
00:32:08.250 --> 00:32:08.730
Yeah.
00:32:09.290 --> 00:32:11.850
You say, I better go download.
00:32:12.650 --> 00:32:16.250
Especially as I have learned what's probably going to happen.
00:32:16.730 --> 00:32:17.290
Right.
00:32:17.610 --> 00:32:19.850
And so we push back a little bit.
00:32:20.010 --> 00:32:24.890
But I'm still hoping to get it up and running next week and send out the first mission next week.
00:32:25.050 --> 00:32:26.090
So we're still taking it.
00:32:29.210 --> 00:32:29.290
Right.
00:32:30.170 --> 00:32:32.410
They'll be called facing prostate cancer together.
00:32:32.970 --> 00:32:33.370
Very good.
00:32:33.690 --> 00:32:35.930
Because it's a family thing.
00:32:37.050 --> 00:32:43.130
Husband, spouse, partner, parents, kids, grandkids, in-laws.
00:32:44.890 --> 00:32:46.570
If you're going through it, you don't know.
00:32:46.970 --> 00:32:47.210
Right.
00:32:47.690 --> 00:32:52.250
That first time nobody knows what a prostate is until they've got something.
00:32:53.290 --> 00:32:53.930
Yeah.
00:32:54.490 --> 00:32:57.370
And so that's what we're working on.
00:32:57.610 --> 00:32:59.210
We'll put that pull back together.
00:33:04.490 --> 00:33:14.810
And so that if I can get even just one person that will get tested.
00:33:22.250 --> 00:33:22.410
Yeah.
00:33:22.810 --> 00:33:26.570
So you can sign up.
00:33:26.970 --> 00:33:29.210
Uh get you more information.
00:33:29.770 --> 00:33:30.810
And I will send out that.
00:33:31.050 --> 00:33:31.850
Yep, that out.
00:33:32.490 --> 00:33:35.050
Once we can get the technology to work.
00:33:36.170 --> 00:33:36.970
That's always the fun.
00:33:37.450 --> 00:33:38.650
It's gonna work or it's not gonna work.
00:33:39.050 --> 00:33:41.530
Well, that kind of thing's frustrating to me.
00:33:41.930 --> 00:33:46.170
I've never been a top tech guy anyway.
00:33:46.490 --> 00:33:46.730
Right.
00:33:47.050 --> 00:33:55.210
But for me to sit down and now have to figure out technology, it's extremely frustrating.
00:33:55.450 --> 00:33:55.770
Yeah.
00:33:56.170 --> 00:33:56.890
Your ability.
00:33:56.970 --> 00:34:06.330
In fact back when I was still practicing to sit in a hearing and listen and really digest everything.
00:34:06.970 --> 00:34:08.409
It just wasn't the way to do it.
00:34:08.570 --> 00:34:10.490
You know, it was getting in the way then.
00:34:10.809 --> 00:34:12.170
So we're still working on it.
00:34:16.969 --> 00:34:18.889
So anyway, so back to the story.
00:34:20.090 --> 00:34:20.969
Go out of the process.
00:34:24.650 --> 00:34:26.969
They're not screening that they're going everything up.
00:34:29.849 --> 00:34:45.769
But then they also have the higher.
00:34:47.289 --> 00:34:53.289
And the external is you go in every business day.
00:34:58.329 --> 00:34:59.130
Month and a half.
00:34:59.530 --> 00:35:00.409
Month and a half.
00:35:00.490 --> 00:35:02.650
You have to go to the hospital.
00:35:04.730 --> 00:35:05.289
Wow.
00:35:05.610 --> 00:35:06.969
That's funny.
00:35:09.849 --> 00:35:13.210
They're discreet, but still it's very exposed.
00:35:14.889 --> 00:35:18.809
First thing you do, and you've got prostate cancer, you can lose all sense.
00:35:19.449 --> 00:35:20.889
Welcome to childbirth, yeah.
00:35:21.849 --> 00:35:22.170
Okay.
00:35:23.130 --> 00:35:24.250
I now know what it's like.
00:35:24.329 --> 00:35:26.250
That might be in the stirrup.
00:35:26.969 --> 00:35:28.490
A man can't really do it.
00:35:28.650 --> 00:35:30.090
Are you here for extra credit?
00:35:30.329 --> 00:35:30.730
Awesome.
00:35:30.889 --> 00:35:32.490
The papers are on the table over there at the front.
00:35:32.570 --> 00:35:33.449
There's some pens there.
00:35:33.610 --> 00:35:34.490
Talk to ten authors.
00:35:34.570 --> 00:35:36.650
They'll out then bring it to me when you're dead.
00:35:36.969 --> 00:35:39.129
So I've been working on my woman's card.
00:35:39.209 --> 00:35:40.169
I've got my man's card now.
00:35:40.250 --> 00:35:41.289
I'm working on my woman's.
00:35:45.689 --> 00:35:45.929
Yeah.
00:35:46.409 --> 00:35:48.969
So then they did the radiation by doing that.
00:35:49.209 --> 00:35:50.809
That can have its own effect.
00:35:50.889 --> 00:35:54.329
That could cause cancer four or five years later.
00:35:54.569 --> 00:35:57.369
Oh, but the other organic.
00:35:57.529 --> 00:35:58.009
Right.
00:35:58.329 --> 00:36:00.489
So this was three years ago.
00:36:00.569 --> 00:36:03.369
So now you're like the next couple years it could be.
00:36:03.769 --> 00:36:05.689
I'm still hanging on that edge.
00:36:05.849 --> 00:36:06.809
It's getting better.
00:36:06.969 --> 00:36:10.329
That's a lot better than they are getting more targeted and stuff in their ability.
00:36:10.569 --> 00:36:10.969
Yeah.
00:36:11.369 --> 00:36:17.289
But then the other thing they do is uh call brachiatherapy where they take high dose.
00:36:17.929 --> 00:36:19.209
And there's two ways to do it.
00:36:19.369 --> 00:36:29.609
One is they just implant radioactive seeds in your prostate, in which case you can't hope it's on your lap for grandparents.
00:36:29.929 --> 00:36:30.889
That's hard, yeah.
00:36:31.609 --> 00:36:33.369
You can't be with your wife.
00:36:33.609 --> 00:36:34.489
Oh, yeah.
00:36:34.809 --> 00:36:36.809
You will sleep in different rooms.
00:36:37.689 --> 00:36:38.809
It could affect them.
00:36:39.049 --> 00:36:39.289
Yeah.
00:36:39.449 --> 00:36:39.609
Yeah.
00:36:39.929 --> 00:36:42.649
You know, the last thing you know at this point is your family.
00:36:42.889 --> 00:36:43.369
Family, right.
00:36:43.609 --> 00:36:45.209
So very isolated.
00:36:48.169 --> 00:36:49.289
There we go.
00:36:50.169 --> 00:36:52.009
You get a little forgetting.
00:36:52.329 --> 00:36:53.130
That's okay.
00:36:53.369 --> 00:36:54.409
That's not age.
00:36:54.730 --> 00:36:57.289
I've had my mom, my mom is still recovering.
00:36:57.449 --> 00:37:01.130
I mean, she's like theater, but still the fog in the brain.
00:37:01.289 --> 00:37:03.289
It you never recover, I don't think, from it.
00:37:06.250 --> 00:37:07.529
It's just always there.
00:37:07.929 --> 00:37:08.969
And that's one of the things.
00:37:09.130 --> 00:37:09.849
Everything's there.
00:37:10.250 --> 00:37:10.569
Yeah.
00:37:11.130 --> 00:37:17.289
Your relationship with your wife is going to be there, your relationship with your kids, grandkids, affects everything.
00:37:17.529 --> 00:37:18.170
Yeah.
00:37:18.569 --> 00:37:22.809
So for me, they did the external, but they also did internal.
00:37:24.170 --> 00:37:33.529
But the one I got, the seeds, they stick, in my case, 17 hollow needles.
00:37:33.769 --> 00:37:33.929
Oh.
00:37:36.170 --> 00:37:36.489
Oh.
00:37:37.529 --> 00:37:38.009
Yummy.
00:37:38.329 --> 00:37:40.969
It's a good thing it was the size of half an orange.
00:37:41.210 --> 00:37:42.889
Right, because there's plenty of room to get to it.
00:37:42.969 --> 00:37:43.130
Yeah.
00:37:43.449 --> 00:37:46.889
But I am a little bit ticked because the other guy that got done that day got 18.
00:37:48.089 --> 00:37:48.170
Oh.
00:37:49.449 --> 00:37:49.849
Yeah.
00:37:50.089 --> 00:37:58.969
But what they do is they have an isotope on the end of the wire and it goes in and out each of the holes, each of the needles.
00:37:59.130 --> 00:38:07.449
And they have it mapped out down to how many nanoseconds or seconds it might stay in one spot until the cells in that air.
00:38:08.170 --> 00:38:10.009
Very targeted and very specific.
00:38:10.089 --> 00:38:10.250
Okay.
00:38:10.650 --> 00:38:12.250
It's been one of the blessings of this.
00:38:12.329 --> 00:38:15.449
It's once upon a time it was law school or medical school.
00:38:15.690 --> 00:38:18.569
I'm now getting my medical degree a little late.
00:38:20.009 --> 00:38:20.569
There we go.
00:38:20.650 --> 00:38:20.889
Yeah.
00:38:21.130 --> 00:38:22.809
So it's been really interesting, though.
00:38:22.969 --> 00:38:26.730
So they do that uh through each of those.
00:38:27.929 --> 00:38:30.650
And they did one session in the morning.
00:38:30.730 --> 00:38:32.329
Now, fortunately, it put you out.
00:38:33.929 --> 00:38:34.409
Oh, good.
00:38:34.489 --> 00:38:37.849
I was gonna say, I hope you didn't have to like flip through that.
00:38:38.089 --> 00:38:39.130
That was a full surgery.
00:38:40.009 --> 00:38:40.569
Yeah.
00:38:41.289 --> 00:38:48.329
So you've got the in there, they do one session in the morning, they put another one later in the afternoon.
00:38:48.569 --> 00:38:49.769
Oh, so two.
00:38:50.569 --> 00:38:52.329
Two times for the first day.
00:38:52.650 --> 00:38:53.610
For the first day.
00:38:56.569 --> 00:38:58.009
Oh my goodness.
00:38:58.409 --> 00:39:02.250
Had to do it again uh two weeks later.
00:39:02.569 --> 00:39:02.889
Okay.
00:39:03.610 --> 00:39:06.650
And when they get done, they just grab a little.
00:39:07.690 --> 00:39:08.889
Oh, ow.
00:39:09.769 --> 00:39:12.250
I said, are you really are you really gonna do that?
00:39:12.489 --> 00:39:13.049
All at once?
00:39:13.210 --> 00:39:16.889
He says, Well, you'd rather I'll do it one at a time, but believe me, you'd rather have me pull it all out.
00:39:17.289 --> 00:39:17.529
Okay.
00:39:17.769 --> 00:39:20.650
So they they do give you another you know, appeal.
00:39:24.089 --> 00:39:26.489
So how's that sounding for good cancer?
00:39:26.730 --> 00:39:27.690
Not good at all.
00:39:27.849 --> 00:39:28.969
I'm already, yeah.
00:39:29.049 --> 00:39:29.849
Nope, nope.
00:39:30.170 --> 00:39:40.329
But then they also, because they're throwing everything at me, they did another treatment that's really new, and that is they put a little heating element down there.
00:39:40.809 --> 00:39:42.250
Oh, so now it's warm too.
00:39:42.489 --> 00:39:43.929
So now they're actually cooking.
00:39:45.049 --> 00:39:45.449
Got it.
00:39:46.170 --> 00:39:51.529
Because the protein in a cancer cell cannot, and they're killing the protein.
00:39:51.690 --> 00:39:51.849
Right.
00:39:52.170 --> 00:39:55.369
Cannot recreate it, so it kills the cancer cell.
00:39:55.769 --> 00:39:56.089
Okay.
00:39:56.489 --> 00:39:59.769
You know, but your healthy cells can recreate the protein that's possible.
00:40:00.409 --> 00:40:00.889
It's not enough.
00:40:01.529 --> 00:40:03.849
Right, just enough to just enough to do it.
00:40:04.170 --> 00:40:06.969
So they do all that.
00:40:07.289 --> 00:40:11.769
Um there's a whole lot of side things.
00:40:12.969 --> 00:40:13.690
Of everything.
00:40:14.969 --> 00:40:16.650
Especially when you do them all at once.
00:40:17.049 --> 00:40:20.730
Uh yeah, because you're not like getting a so here's the thing, would you rather have it prolonged?
00:40:20.889 --> 00:40:23.929
Oh, or do you want to have it all at once and just get it over with, right?
00:40:24.009 --> 00:40:24.170
Yeah.
00:40:24.489 --> 00:40:25.849
It helped to have it all at once.
00:40:26.009 --> 00:40:28.250
So you have the fatigue.
00:40:28.489 --> 00:40:28.889
Yeah.
00:40:29.130 --> 00:40:35.049
Uh I've heard some people uh explain it so in ways that some women can understand.
00:40:35.130 --> 00:40:36.730
It's like having Epstein bar.
00:40:37.130 --> 00:40:37.529
Yeah.
00:40:37.849 --> 00:40:39.929
Where you just are constantly fatigue.
00:40:40.089 --> 00:40:41.130
You wake up fatigued.
00:40:41.289 --> 00:40:41.369
Yep.
00:40:41.690 --> 00:40:43.130
A good night's sleep, and you're still fatigued.
00:40:43.369 --> 00:40:44.089
I'm exhausted.
00:40:44.170 --> 00:40:44.569
Yep.
00:40:45.130 --> 00:40:54.489
Uh I ended up, especially while I was going through radiation, uh, having to take a four-hour nap.
00:40:55.049 --> 00:40:56.329
Oh, goodness gracious.
00:40:56.489 --> 00:40:57.449
And then still going to bed.
00:40:57.610 --> 00:40:57.849
Yeah.
00:40:58.969 --> 00:40:59.769
I'm a night out.
00:41:00.170 --> 00:41:02.969
So that meant still going to bed at midnight or two.
00:41:03.769 --> 00:41:09.690
Uh but it's so hard.
00:41:10.329 --> 00:41:15.369
And spouses might not quite understand how exhausting it is.
00:41:15.610 --> 00:41:16.569
How exhausting it is.
00:41:16.809 --> 00:41:17.849
So that's very real.
00:41:18.250 --> 00:41:19.369
Some will push.
00:41:20.569 --> 00:41:21.769
Come on, go cut the lawn.
00:41:23.049 --> 00:41:25.769
If I went out and cut the wall, we had a good sized log back then.
00:41:26.569 --> 00:41:29.130
Uh I would have that happened every hour.
00:41:29.929 --> 00:41:31.610
Just for an hour of plenty.
00:41:32.250 --> 00:41:32.730
Exactly.
00:41:33.369 --> 00:41:36.969
Uh if I did four hours of yard work, I was out with four hours.
00:41:38.089 --> 00:41:38.650
You know.
00:41:39.130 --> 00:41:42.569
If I worked like four hours, I was down with four.
00:41:43.769 --> 00:41:44.009
Right.
00:41:44.409 --> 00:41:45.130
That's the bad.
00:41:45.529 --> 00:41:46.170
Yeah.
00:41:46.730 --> 00:41:48.089
So that's still tight.
00:41:48.489 --> 00:41:50.009
So you got the fatigue.
00:41:50.489 --> 00:41:56.889
Then with the uh talk about the brain fog, then you get the hot flashes.
00:41:57.690 --> 00:41:58.250
Yes.
00:41:58.409 --> 00:42:00.889
Those lovely hot flashes, those of you with menopause.
00:42:00.969 --> 00:42:02.969
We understand the hot clashes.
00:42:03.289 --> 00:42:04.250
They call it menopause.
00:42:05.210 --> 00:42:05.369
Okay.
00:42:05.449 --> 00:42:07.289
I've got a little bit of the name for it for you.
00:42:07.529 --> 00:42:09.369
I've got another box I get to check on.
00:42:09.529 --> 00:42:09.769
Yes.
00:42:10.089 --> 00:42:10.650
Hot flashes.
00:42:10.809 --> 00:42:14.089
My hot flashes are hitting every half hour on the half hour.
00:42:14.329 --> 00:42:14.969
Oh my gosh.
00:42:16.089 --> 00:42:18.329
Now they're not as bad as I understand some women.
00:42:18.730 --> 00:42:20.730
Oh no, they could be all day long, non-stop.
00:42:20.969 --> 00:42:21.449
So yeah.
00:42:21.690 --> 00:42:23.289
You know, they it would flare up.
00:42:23.369 --> 00:42:26.009
I'd fill up here, I'd start get flush.
00:42:29.610 --> 00:42:31.849
Oh, you got the fan, the personal fan.
00:42:32.170 --> 00:42:33.610
You always got the fan.
00:42:33.769 --> 00:42:34.170
You know.
00:42:34.329 --> 00:42:34.969
Yeah.
00:42:35.369 --> 00:42:37.849
I almost need one in my classroom nowadays, I'm like.
00:42:38.650 --> 00:42:44.889
Yeah, and I'm ripping off everything I've got down to as little as possible.
00:42:44.969 --> 00:42:47.769
Meanwhile, my wife's over there cozying up in her lake.
00:42:48.089 --> 00:42:48.809
And freezing to death.
00:42:49.130 --> 00:42:49.449
Freezing.
00:42:49.610 --> 00:42:50.170
That's my husband.
00:42:52.650 --> 00:42:54.569
So, you know, and I want the fan on.
00:42:54.730 --> 00:42:58.089
She does, you know, so more strain on the relationship.
00:42:58.250 --> 00:42:58.809
Yeah.
00:42:59.049 --> 00:43:04.409
Uh but then the interesting thing was it kind of goes for about five minutes, goes away.
00:43:04.969 --> 00:43:05.449
Oh no.
00:43:05.849 --> 00:43:06.329
Comes again.
00:43:06.489 --> 00:43:06.569
Yeah.
00:43:10.569 --> 00:43:11.849
Like very regular at least.
00:43:14.250 --> 00:43:14.569
Yeah.
00:43:14.809 --> 00:43:17.610
And that went through the night too.
00:43:18.569 --> 00:43:22.089
So it starts to get sleep, bam, it would hit.
00:43:22.650 --> 00:43:24.409
And it wakes you up and you can't sleep.
00:43:24.730 --> 00:43:25.769
Totally wakes you up.
00:43:25.929 --> 00:43:26.250
Yep.
00:43:26.489 --> 00:43:28.250
Start to doze off again.
00:43:28.489 --> 00:43:29.929
Half hour, boom.
00:43:30.409 --> 00:43:31.210
Hits again.
00:43:31.289 --> 00:43:33.289
So ED chill got trim.
00:43:33.769 --> 00:43:35.449
We got some medication for that.
00:43:35.610 --> 00:43:37.769
They actually give you an antidepressant.
00:43:38.329 --> 00:43:38.730
Mm-hmm.
00:43:39.130 --> 00:43:45.849
That called Venitaxin that they find has that secondary use of it.
00:43:46.089 --> 00:43:47.210
Helps the hot buttons.
00:43:47.449 --> 00:43:48.009
Oh, okay.
00:43:48.170 --> 00:43:50.170
So we go through that and adjust that.
00:43:51.849 --> 00:43:52.889
That's all over.
00:43:53.130 --> 00:43:55.849
If I'm doing physical electricity, it's all over.
00:43:56.089 --> 00:43:56.650
It's all over.
00:43:57.849 --> 00:44:04.730
As I was backpacking around Europe, I would just soak this way every single day because they're having their feet.
00:44:05.210 --> 00:44:07.449
Which by the way, I loved all the posts from Europe.
00:44:07.610 --> 00:44:08.969
I'm like, I'm jealous right now.
00:44:09.289 --> 00:44:10.329
I was like, take it in.
00:44:11.289 --> 00:44:12.569
There's always a way to do it.
00:44:13.049 --> 00:44:16.009
Don't wait till you're retired because your health won't let you know.
00:44:16.809 --> 00:44:18.170
So we're gonna be having difficulty.
00:44:18.489 --> 00:44:18.569
Yeah.
00:44:19.690 --> 00:44:21.610
So got the hot flash.
00:44:23.610 --> 00:44:30.969
Um do you also have I was gonna say, I remember that summer at Brook Scratch, you were fairly emotional all the time.
00:44:31.130 --> 00:44:33.210
It was you were so struggling.
00:44:34.089 --> 00:44:39.610
And and this is why I still get like turns out my testosterone level had naturally dropped.
00:44:39.849 --> 00:44:40.489
Right, yeah.
00:44:40.650 --> 00:44:42.409
You know, I think the body knows how to fight.
00:44:42.730 --> 00:44:43.849
It's trying to fight.
00:44:48.009 --> 00:44:51.289
Oh and I've seen it here and there.
00:44:51.369 --> 00:44:58.250
You know, I wasn't a regular watcher, but I've seen it and they're all leaving the house.
00:44:58.489 --> 00:44:58.889
Yeah.
00:44:59.210 --> 00:45:05.210
I'm falling! Yeah, I've seen it, the tears are screaming down my face.
00:45:05.289 --> 00:45:07.130
I'm going, what the hell?
00:45:08.409 --> 00:45:16.889
Yeah, I am finally down, and I'm just bear with me because I get along with the There's also the darker side of it and have depression.
00:45:17.289 --> 00:45:19.769
Depression, anger, all of it.
00:45:20.089 --> 00:45:24.569
And that's the fortunately for me, I was a good drunk, as it were.
00:45:25.289 --> 00:45:26.170
I'm mellow.
00:45:26.969 --> 00:45:31.610
But like this one lady at the ranch, her husband got beaten.
00:45:31.769 --> 00:45:32.170
Right.
00:45:32.329 --> 00:45:33.529
Uh physically.
00:45:33.769 --> 00:45:34.409
Yeah.
00:45:34.730 --> 00:45:40.889
And in the Facebook group, some really do get combated.
00:45:41.929 --> 00:45:47.289
Uh and a lot of that comes from the loss of masculinity.
00:45:47.529 --> 00:45:48.009
Yeah.
00:45:48.809 --> 00:45:52.409
Uh there's a lot that goes on with it.
00:45:53.369 --> 00:45:55.769
News budget is a better place to discuss about that.
00:45:56.089 --> 00:45:56.889
Right, yeah.
00:45:57.210 --> 00:46:04.809
But there's a real loss that's yeah, and you have lots of control of your life and what happened when and where.
00:46:05.210 --> 00:46:08.569
It's your life, it's your masculinity, it's your manhood.
00:46:08.809 --> 00:46:11.049
I mean, my mother hates my beard.
00:46:11.369 --> 00:46:13.369
But you're like, I've got a beard.
00:46:13.690 --> 00:46:15.130
She keeps telling me to get rid of this.
00:46:15.210 --> 00:46:16.250
It's my COVID beard.
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Yeah, but you're like, but I've got a beard.
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I have to keep that.
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Right.
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This may not grow back.
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Yeah, and if I do end up having both of people, I may lose it anyway.
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Exactly, right.
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Yeah.
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So this is still being too part of my manhood.
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Yeah.
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Uh so that emasculation is really and and and women we don't understand, I don't think it's much as men do that there's something about that manhood and the manliness that is vital to your identity and who you are and what you have done and accomplished in your lives and to lose all that is just yeah.
00:46:52.089 --> 00:46:53.690
Well I'll give you another good example.
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I love doing yard work and uh as I was going as I was going through the radiation it was early spring.
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It was like 60 degrees outside.
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I go out to cut them all.
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I love cutting sweaty I can't finish I have to keep stopping.
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Right.
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I'm going to get in a drink and I had a fan going in the garage and I wanted to wait because I have to give this up there's just no way I can keep doing so you are you tend to lose a lot of what you were in your identity like you said.
00:47:38.809 --> 00:47:47.289
If I would have tested earlier probably would have done so you've got that you've got muscle loss.
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I now could do the relief site wedding.
00:47:53.369 --> 00:48:04.089
Yeah no all that just up here and it's gone uh you have weight gain and you don't like that and you can't lose it.
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You can't lose it even if you're eating nothing you can't even starve yourself about that I usually one meal a day people look at me say really yeah no that's real very real because with no testosterone you're not gonna drop it and you the metabolism does all weird things.
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Your bone dentity is gone it's gone I've had two teeth now break you know yeah uh and so you've got to keep up on calcium you've got all you've got to start supplementing you need to do all this stuff and unfortunately don't learn a lot of that for your doctor.
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No the doctor treats the thing and then says you're on your way.
00:48:38.009 --> 00:48:48.569
Yeah yeah no I think it was Massword said he was good with the hammer takes everything to nail exactly which is one of the things you have to do too another reason to have a newsletter.
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If you go to radiologists they'll say treatment radiology doctor or the surgeon and the surgeon said well best they do surgery.
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Yep they both have their pros and their cons.
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Exactly you know and there's new treatments coming out.
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But then there's also the nutrient part the healthy part that so you have to go to a dietitian now and we do not that's one of the reasons we end up with prostate cancer.
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It doesn't help for sure yeah they've shown that a lot the way we eat in our society a lot of red meat especially grilled and smoked yeah which I love both of yeah rots hot dogs last meat rot no any processed all the processed food but especially processed beans which means yes which is so good my husband makes it down for that reason so that he can have some and that's what gives tea yeah and you know and it can make it work so you have to cut that down and still imbibe a little now and then but cut it down.
00:49:58.009 --> 00:50:09.449
But ironically my husband when he had his heart surgery and his heart and stuff like this he had to go into a low car almost no carb diet and it's all meat and they're like the best things for you are these good fat deficiencies.
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And so it's like and so now he's trying to balance the meat and the thing is that way so that he doesn't cause other problems but you know but yeah it's so weird because certain things do some things other things you can treat them.
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So yeah.
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I'm lucky I love everything.
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So it doesn't so you're like I don't care what I'm eating as long as I'm eating.
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That's fine.
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But I don't eat no because the appetite's gone.
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Yeah the appetite right now is gone.
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Yeah and uh they had to force my mom to she had to get to take the protein shakes and stuff like this to force herself to have something in her body.
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And that's one of the things that guys have to make sure they're getting a lot of protein.
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Yeah.
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Uh if not you end up with lepema.
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Yeah which I can tell how good I'm good on my protein by looking at my chin.
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Right and how long we've stood that day and how much it settled and so your diet adjusts your weight loss uh let's see what else my cheek list I gave you oh yes I got my cheat list out yes uh I had that probably mostly we've we've covered a lot on it there I'm like we didn't need the cheek list after all you've got your you've got the delicate erectile dysfunction problem uh and that really affects the relationship now there are things that you can do for that right uh but one of the important things is you as the man and as spots need to be talking about and that's hard too when you're communicating because it may change the way you communicate you might have had a system that you've worked with for years and years now you've got to actually face things maybe you haven't had to face a lot of guys just shut down yeah and you know we're not real good sharing our feelings anyway speaking generally yeah but a lot of things you just don't share even with your spectrum.
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Right and we don't share with the other guys who's interested once I got diagnosed telling people hey I've got this because I decide I'm gonna become an evangelist evangelism for prostate testing.
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Yeah testing I come to point out several of my friends had it and they've never knew never knew how you know a neighbor had never knew you know so until I said something but then once we both start talking about it now we get to talk about it.
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And there's nothing to be ashamed of for I mean no the only way we lose the people and we lose understanding and information is if we stop talking.
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Right?
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And and so what have you found for this that that's one of the things I hope to develop with the newsletter is an actual community where you come in ask questions we can do an article on it people can give tips.
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Right uh for example with the encounter the hospital pads are very expensive to put on your couch.
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Yeah the doggy pads they're cheaper yeah a lot cheaper but they're the same thing they're the same thing exactly so the tips like that how to fight the uh hot flash you know to help you sleep at night my wife and kids gave me a bed check absolutely awesome yeah I'm looking at one of those for like Christmas because I'm like right now I'm just like cooling pillow it doesn't blank up blank it doesn't it just keep none of that works bed check hit the bed is it okay bed check that what it does is it blows air up underneath so that you can get cooled up constantly and you find your right temperature just leave it on all night and your temperature is perfect and you can still have your blanket on instead of yeah it's like off and then it's on then it's off and then it's off and the best thing is it also heats up at the winter.
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Oh so I've also one of the oh one of the side effects is drop yes in your feet our feet hate everything fast.
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Yes yeah especially with cable if you end up with cable pain out of nowhere so numbness tingling yeah and so my feeder always cold so when I get in I first crank it up do the heat blast get my feet warmed up enough and then immediately turn it so and after the heat flash you also have the chill yes because it you get all of a sudden you get cold really fast so like no in between that slow all of a sudden you're chill freezing you're sweating now you're grabbing everything and trying to get dressed yeah so anyway lots of side effects uh you just have to embrace your new normal what can spouses do what can spouses do what's like the thing they can start with before we get to this letters what's what we can do number one you gotta get your husband to know his PSO get it to the doctor everyone it's a blood test after 20 years just after 20 years yeah it's a simple blood test it's not you don't if you saw the commercials during the Super Bowl yeah they're all the little things value then yeah you know they're saying you know you don't have to get the bigger anymore it's very subtle yeah guys know most guys know go to the doctor but the whole point is you can just get a little blood drop and get it so number one is make sure your husband is getting the you want to start if it's if you have it in your family definitely get age 14.
00:55:43.289 --> 00:56:45.929
Okay this used to be considered an old man's disease it's not anymore it's not so many people in their 40s at their primary care doctors push them back and say no you can't have prostate but you can't by the time they finally get tested they're stage four and they die from because the doctor thought and primary care doctors love them they're definitely old school yeah so make sure they get tested start at 40 if you're uh you're having the family you're African American start at 40 they do not know why but there's a higher rate risk there there's a higher rate both of birth and death oh wow their mortality rate is much higher so you've got to get in get tested and one of the ladies as we were down at the ranch said that she had a great way to get her husband in get tested and said if you go get tested we'll have fun after okay so don't get don't have fun before because it affects your test.
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So do it after have fun after uh so that's number one number two if it does look like you've got it get educated yourself.
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Yeah don't go down the rabbit holes with everything don't get yeah learn what the prostate does learn how it affects things learn what he's gonna be going through so that you're more understanding about like go mow the lawn you don't you still have to live okay yes we still have to mow the lawn too long instead of complaining the lawn hasn't been cut yet today you come say how you pull it or you have to do it.
00:57:20.809 --> 00:57:26.650
Right that reframing it that little reframe makes all the difference in the world.
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Right and especially if you've been through menopause yourself understand what he's going through with the menopause you can have some empathy there.
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So have you committerate over the menopause menopause laugh at it enjoy the hotest together.
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Have fun together yeah uh and so that that is a big thing.
00:57:48.809 --> 00:57:53.690
The other thing is you have to focus on the relationship.
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Yeah um too often you know it breaks my heart when I see that some relationships break up over yeah uh some guys are basically all by themselves in the first place.
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Right.
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But then there are others that I don't know they've written about how their spouse just left them because they couldn't be a caregiver.
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Right.
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So and being a caregiver is hard.
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It is difficult on many levels yeah so one of the things you can do best for your husband partner is take care of yourself.
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Yeah they'll put your oxygen mask on first then help others you've got to stay healthy yourself so that you can some practical things go to the doctor's appointment they did it for the babies you can do it now it was so helpful having my wife there number one she registered so she knew she helped translate some stuff right yeah but number two the great box we come back from an appointment you can't remember what's going on and I said well he said this no it was this yeah so to have that second witness yeah to keep things clear and take the reporter doctors let's put it this way if doctors bothered by the court and they can yeah they should never they're recording you yeah this there and it's really correct yeah because that way you can hear it again later yeah and you need to know that there are things I was missing uh I missed getting my CAT scan was one of the first I thought he was going to set it oh and the doctor told me to set it so I came back to my next appointment of my letter and they were saying well why's your CAT scan CAS can why didn't you do it?
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You guys were gonna do it let me know.
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Yeah the memory yeah so having that second witness in there and just the moral sort of yeah um and different guys were different some would like you know when I was going through the radiation there were stuff husband and wife came in together all the time then they go to lunch or whatever right you know me I didn't need that my wife was still working so no you go to work I'll do yeah some have been open have some real side effects right yeah so listen to your husband what he needs what he wants uh and then also respect his decisions yeah uh when you're facing those life changing decisions and you're trying to decide whether to keep them or not uh there's some guys that just say I don't want to fight this anymore.
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Right.
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And you gotta let it and the wife is saying but wait a minute I don't want to lose but in the end he's the one yeah you know a lot of guys after they've been on the blue front don't go back home so much.
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Yeah and and they call it vacation yeah and they'll go off six months and see how they do.
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Yeah you know the whole thing's an extreme it's called practicing medicine it's there's no no answers yeah there's no guarantee of how it's gonna turn out yeah so understand you've got to do normal for both of you understand he's gonna be late because one of the things is you know the unconscious the uh irregularity that comes from radiation yeah once you start messing with that area you can cause real problems.
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Yep.
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And you think we have to spend a lot of time in the bathroom now they it makes it even worse yeah yeah uh so little trick lie to your husband about when you want to make it a half an hour earlier half hour and then you're good if it's half an hour late.
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Then you won't be stressed.
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Right.
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Like me getting here half hour late it's okay I knew we're I was like he's all right well he'll get here when he gets here.
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Not big deal.
01:02:16.009 --> 01:02:20.969
But it's interesting I've talked to other people that had different kinds of cancer they'll say the same thing.
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Like time slows down everything you do yeah takes longer.
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You just slow everything the brain fog how many times you have to go in the other room to get something you know it all adds up everywhere.
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Never mind yeah it all adds up yeah and so you're gonna have uh the change of diet yeah how you eat how you make meals for each other and yeah you know it's debatable as to how much sugar plays into it each time I ask AI it gives me a different answer.
01:02:55.369 --> 01:03:05.929
AI doctor what the sugar content for today but I've doing research you know for something to write up yeah but my doctor told me don't worry about it.
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You're there already you're already there just eat yeah that's go ahead and there are guys you know alcohol for example yeah uh most medical doctors would say definite no yeah some guys say I'm still gonna have a beer yeah and they cut down yeah you know but it's bad for the cancer always yeah and you end up finding ways to cope with it right and cope with the masculinity that happens and you as the spouse can't substitute your judgment.
01:03:42.809 --> 01:03:52.569
Yeah that's one thing that keeps showing up in these posts say tell me how I get my husband to go get you don't do that.
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And the other women it's great one of the prostate cancer support groups on Facebook has 4000 members men and women.
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Yeah and when one of the women starts you know they're new to it you know they say tell me how to get him to do what I want you to do and they come out and say no not the way it works.
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That's not the way it works now it's got to talk about it.
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It might be that you actually need to get into counseling in relationship uh both for just the emotional yeah but also for the physical for the the sex therapy yeah uh well we think that's a failure so I think we should get rid of the word therapy coaching yeah there we go you know sex coaching I'm up for that that's there we go honey I mean you know uh but that's a big strength for a lot of people yeah it can be especially if your relationship is very difficult beforehand to lose that the more empathy that you get if uh if a man is one of the one of the things that is definitely gonna happen is he will feel unwarmed yeah his masculinity like you said before his whole identity is changed that she's still wrong yeah so things as simple as putting your hand on their arm can mean so much and send them to the blue yeah and the best thing is if they're on testosterone therapy you don't have to worry about any follow-up you know give them a hug just out of the blue give them a kiss out of the blue let them know that they're still desirable yeah let them know that you still want and it can be by fixing their favorite meal i mean watching their shows now the one good thing is I like chicken birds so hey they're good together it's uh you know that that worked really good with the uh testosterone right yeah so you're gonna have to find new things to do together yeah uh if he likes to ride a bike go bike ride because energy or exercise is a great yeah we don't feel like yeah but if you'll do it together if my wife says let's go for a walk I'll go off you know if she wants to go for a bike ride we'll go for a bike ride.
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Right you know that's the kind of stuff that will make it big and don't you have to accept the bucket well we've got about five minutes five more minutes yeah accept the bucket okay if he's always wanted to play golf go golfing or send him golfing on a turn send him golfing with him whatever uh if he likes to do photography let him go out and do photography he wants to do woodworking let him set up a shop in the spare bedroom yeah I mean anything you know whatever it is because they're now facing yeah the final chapters yep and you gotta give them a chance to enjoy life all they can because you never know when it's going to recur and that's what I'm fixing right now.
01:07:15.849 --> 01:08:47.930
So yeah no well I went through all my treatments yeah my PSA came down to undetects looking good yeah until it went up until it went up again it went up a little bit the doc says listen your move from it's working out of your system because it's it's a six month shot nothing worried about three months later jump up to one point two yeah and they say if it doubles in six months it's likely recurring that's there's a problem a mine by 30 times in three months oh yeah and then so yeah can't take that one by you gotta track and that's one of the real frustration yeah you have to wait three months for the next test yeah next test comes then we'll see I order that's up again just three months instead of six months so they order the test scan I go in and have a full body scan it looks like I've got spots on my lungs oh gosh and so it could have normally it'll progress to your lymph nodes and then to the bones and then to the orchids so if it has deep rod in my lungs yep that's critical my survival rate then drops down to quite a bit 30% survive pipe.
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So one out of two guys that make it new with the next bike.
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Well now you've got to get your white newsletter out even faster now.
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Yes there's urgency the good news is Sargon Bike a little bit back down.
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Yeah the radiologist says he thinks they're just denying spots good we still don't know why it jumped so now the waiting game begins it's the waiting game understand the waiting game understand no as a spouse and that's stress on its own that's stress on its own so that's right so that's why I've got to hurry up and get this done well I look forward to this newsletter um even as I I hope I never have to but uh you know I just enjoy learning about this but I think it's good for everyone to learn I think we all need to know what's going on with people got a husband you'll need to know if you've got you will probably say there'll be more than one I trust over the years come back and say it was your newsletter I've got my husband that's the one thing you should get your husband to do get tested.
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Your husband doesn't know his PSA go get tested we'll get tested thank you guys we love you and I love you thank you for my thank you it is prostate awareness month you guys get out there get the awareness out there and keep it going don't save it for one month do it all year long and help each other out another time on Rabbit's racks waves and reviews talk to you later by guys