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[SPEAKER_02]: The schedule is finally out this week on Pod, like a raven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are in mid-May.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The sun is out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: spring is in full bloom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Orioles are bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's spring time, baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's officially spring time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am Antonio Barbarra here to talk Ravens with you all as there is a little bit of news, but more exciting than the news is the schedule that has been released, so we know who the Ravens are playing, where they're playing, and maybe more importantly for one of my co-hosts when they're playing,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's bring them on now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's start with Tim Horsey, Tim.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Excited to see you, except to see Jason's well, but happy to talk some football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Happy to talk something that seems perhaps a bit more real than like, ooh, the stitching of the jersey is nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The schedule out, and I know that you love, you love yourself a good one P.M. Sunday game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: level one p.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't love spending $100 to watch every single Orioles game and then being absolutely crap this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So next year I think I'm going to have to consult my my legal team of Antonio Barbarra and Jason Evans to or my financial directors, I guess, to make sure that I don't waste money to turn on a team that ends up losing like 11 to three to the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Orioles are really bad, and that was going to be the thing that hopefully got me through this summer, but now let's talk about 1pm starts in Indianapolis, baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Jones week one favored by seven and a half when it went by four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we were talking pre-show and I was gonna save this for later but now let's just do it right at the rip j-7's joins as well and j-7's very into the ravens already because yeah this is kind of for me i don't know because sort of a tale is all this time really the reason i love the ravens is because uh i just lower at least you know my deep love for the ravens kind of developed out of just the world's being terrible i can't
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a measuring school, middle school, high school and hit a point where, yeah, you hit this time of year and you're like, well, this team's not making the play off, so what do I have to look forward to, you know, none of our hockey or basketball teams made the play off in this area, so there's not much going on in terms of sports, so that naturally turns your attention to football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, with the schedule, you know, it gets, this is when I think football gets real for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the next season is like, yeah, we had the draft and that's exciting to get all those new players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, but this is like the, like, the fully like we have turned the page on the, you know, the 20, 25 season and it's just full season ahead in 20, 26, we knew all the opponents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We already knew, like, where they would even play at least home in a way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: ticket the schedule to see the order to debate uh... the prime time game placements or i you know i i go to this year lack thereof which is kind of nice i i think to some degree uh... i'm sure we'll be flexed in the like five prime time games the raven's are good which
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do expect them to be at first glance at this control, but yeah, this is just a really exciting time year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think one that gets amplified for me in more excitement as, yeah, all by other sports teams flounder were over a year from any team I root for participating in the playoffs, which is the tough scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's all we have, it's all I have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I decided to look forward to, you know, it's exciting times this fall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be here kind of before we know it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're like, I don't know, for some stuff, we have to be DC adjacent with our fanned wizards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Number one overall pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were finally bad enough to get the number one pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's how it's been going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Outside of the NFL for this area.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So bring on the schedule, bring on the Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and bring on them being like co-superbowl favorites again already, which is not great that didn't exactly work out last year, so a new schedule and the Ravens once again at the absolute top of
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[SPEAKER_02]: Vegas's odds for winning the Super Bowl, which is, I guess, the goal for this team every year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But before we get to the schedule, I want to get into just a couple of news tidbits that we haven't really covered yet here on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And one of them is Ravens related, and that is Clay's Campbell signed to a one-year deal back in Baltimore, five and a half million dollars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know at first the listener is going to sort of, uh, sigh and shrug like, okay, Clay's Campbell, great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the man is going to be 40 years old when the season starts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, is this really a player who's going to...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you know, like, tick up and move the needle for this team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My answer to that is yes, yes, he will move the needle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had six and a half sex last season, his last four seasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had six and a half, five, six and a half, and five and a half.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, all four of those totals would have led the Ravens in sex last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he started every game over the last three seasons, while ages, you know, 37, 38 and 39.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is incredible consistency, very, very good production for this player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not like a pure edge russia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like kind of a defensive lineman, defensive end, hybrid player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is very, very good production, shockingly good for a player who was played in the league for so long.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very excited about him just as a depth piece for this team at a position that we said was of need with the still lingering question marks with Metabika.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the biggest thing for me Antonella when we talked about coming out of the draft that kind of frankly, you know, especially if Madabike wasn't coming back, we were when we were talked about that, like what they did the draft was kind of not acceptable in terms of showing up the depth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like to go out and get a depth piece like this, like you said, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think the second totals are impressive too when you consider like he was playing for pretty bad teams the last three years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Atlanta Falcons at there, the Miami Dolphids, Arizona Cardinals, like not the cream of the crap of the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think probably all those squads might have even ended up with losing records at the end, you know, just taking a quick glance or maybe Miami scratched a 500.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like not, you know, not top line things, not played for teams that are constantly ahead so you get a sack opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to be able to kind of still have production, like clearly he's taking great care of himself to be able to play and beyond the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think like from that sense, like the depth, he shores that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then just I think for me, there's just like a leadership component too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was pretty much kind of the unquestion leader of the Ravens defense more or less when it like the three years he was on the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and two of those years, they finished second and third and points against in 2020 and 2022, which was a particularly good defensive team, especially once they added Roquon Smith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think for me, like, just leadership, and like he fills the depth of the day, but then if he can like help bring along these young guys, you know, you just drafted Zion, young, rock in the number nine, which will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, look pretty cool, and then you got, you know, they still have clearly high hopes for my green.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he can, like, help those guys come along, well, also just like, you know, plug in the gaps that I've got to sprung up here, um, great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'm all about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, there's a risk, we're about to talk about the risk involved in another 40 year old plus signing for another team here shortly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, so there's obviously a risk at that age and just the wear and tear and he's playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a ton of games, 270 games in the NFL, including 259 stars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is just a lot of football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I think he still obviously feels he can produce, he did produce as a 39-year-old, so, yeah, welcome on back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess the only thing I wish is, like, what a probably, but nice, if he was just all the team in the last three years too, this is a butterfly I always liked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah, I think a great addition to bring back and kind of fill those spots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think the leadership role is so important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You look at this depth chart now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's whatever happens with nominee Matabike, Travis Jones, Project Washington, Jr., John Jenkins, Clayus Campbell are kind of your top five out of a three-man front for your defensive lineman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have the guys, some of the rookies, you got a Koya who's still here, NES Peoples, as well, Fubb, who we all were raving about just because of his name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: draft, and then obviously didn't do too much as a rookie, but maybe he develops and grows, and you get a guy like Campbell who can help supplement that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just a do that, you know, almost joined the Ravens from the Miami Dolphins a couple of years ago at the Trade Deadline, and then that was shot down, and it was clearly a piece that they
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[SPEAKER_00]: wanted and needed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you could see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, last year, the Ravens were the worst team at defensive three and out rate forced in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had 13.3% of drives were three and out from the opposing offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He shares up not only in the run game, but somebody that can get after the past rush or, you know, Jonah Schaffer had this stat of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our Shafer excuse me had this stat that he only had 33 pressures last season, which was 31 31st among interior defense alignment, but he ranked third in ESPN's past rush win rate inside and the only two people better than him were Jeffrey Simmons and Chris Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a guy that clearly can still do it at this level and look, there's going to be injuries are along that front.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that's one of the more demanding positions on the team and
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[SPEAKER_00]: You basically are asking Colleus Campbell, all things considered week one, to be a rotational piece in a defensive line that includes Madabike, Jones, Washington, Jenkins, Peoples, like that is, that's an amazing, he's overqualified for the current role that they have him situated in right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I loved bringing him back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do the just, the Anquan bold in like, this dude was meant to be a rave and I'm so glad he is a rave and type of guy, so good to see him back in Baltimore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another bit of news that I feel like we uh...
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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't have to address, but let's let's get into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is not Ravens related, but it does tie-in to the Ravens twice a year and it's the Pittsburgh Steelers Officially Resigning Aaron Rogers toy one year 25 million dollar deal and the medi-operated train continues I look I know I know that the Steelers beat the Ravens twice last season and then went to the playoffs while the Ravens didn't But the writing is on the wall here, and I think most Steelers fans
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[SPEAKER_02]: What agree with me that they are still or even more so far away from this like fresh rebuild that they need.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to get a franchise quarterback that's actually gonna give them a team that matters in the postseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are once again with him going to win with Rogers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to win too many games to get a top 10 pick, but they're not going to be a relevant playoff contender.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there is no way that this team as it's constructed with him at the quarterback will be feared by anyone if they sort of have a similar season to last year where they kind of sneak in to the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and then immediately get, like, bombarded by whatever opponent they have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, I don't want to say I can't believe that they're doing this again because they've done this exact thing so many times, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I'm not, this is so silly because I'm talking at both sides of my mouth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not afraid of this team, and then on the other side, they beat him twice with this exact same sort of situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm gonna pretend that that's more of a Raven's problem than a Steelers success, but like welcome to 98, again, I guess, with Aaron Rogers as the guy there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think this effectively caps their season expectations, which is crazy to make, that you do this move,
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're trying to refresh this team and like this is the whole argument, I think they bring in Mike McCarthy and it's like, well, if you're bringing in Mike McCarthy, why didn't you just stick with Mike Tomlin?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it doesn't, they don't feel like they're committed to what they need to do and it's kind of
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, maybe not blow it up, but blow it up to some to some degree, you know, that the 27 draft is and who knows because we're still, you know, a year out or a little less than a year out at this point, but it's supposed to be this quarterback heavy draft and you want to get in there with a with a pick where you have teams like, you know, the Cardinals who are basically building the ship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for the quarterback to come in the same thing with the jet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think have three first rounders next year based on some of the picks that they have like with the saws gardener trade and others like they're going to be making moves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to build basically the infrastructure to insert quarterback in and the Steelers are just kind of maintaining the status quo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they wouldn't give a guy like will hire to shout basically some Steelers fans can say will hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Drew Aller pick is all just even more confounding now and then they pick him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they say they have to literally tear down all of the things that he learned at Penn State and building back up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to be this project guy for you that maybe they're thinking they bring in Aaron Rogers at $25 million for another year and then give the keys to Drew Aller if they see positive signs and practice and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just
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[SPEAKER_00]: The plan doesn't make sense and I understand the Steelers want to be a team that like they don't want to do a rebuild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to do a reset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to, you know, they're a proud franchise who needs to maintain some level of success.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the success for years and years and years has been nine and eight, ten and seven and bounced in the wild card ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that just feels like what this is again this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they picked what seven picks behind the Ravens or something like that because they won one more game than them and made
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[SPEAKER_00]: that doesn't that's not effective.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is it is you see it in the NBA you see it in other sports all the time of these teams just beating their head against the wall of mediocrity and
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the NFL, the big thing is get that quarterback that then you can like kind of build around because that elevates your level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Ravens would be in the same situation if they didn't have Lamar Jackson them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we do, and that's why they are kind of pushed to this higher standard almost, but the standard is the standard in Pittsburgh and the standard right now is nine and eight and a wildcard exit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're just kind of spinning their wheels again with the same cast of characters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: well and ownership almost kind of like back them into this corner I think to certainly a big degree like what as you said with the McCarthy hiring like you like yeah they're just setting like a natural cap to like what the team can be like in the immediate and in the long term kind of but like you know because they make the trait like so like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth a little bit here just because like if they didn't make like if Rogers Did decide to not come back and it always seemed like he was gonna come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just likes to you know draw things out So he doesn't have to do it today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there whatever?
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[SPEAKER_01]: However it works out or whatnot, but you know
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[SPEAKER_01]: to like draw this out like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he had decided to not come back, they were like a really un-troubled for the 2026 season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like maybe that's good long term, but they just like had like a three-way season and have one of these like top three picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like as it stands, I guess if I have a worry, you know, like I am with you guys, that I think that I think the Steelers will be a little too competent enough because I don't rather still have like a fine season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we should just point out that like 2025 was Aaron Rodgers' worst season of his career playing a full 16 games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had his fewest yards and fewest TVs he's ever posted when he's basically played a fully healthy season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He only missed one game and he's now 42 years old and he turns 43 before the season concludes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the oldest player in the NFL and when we last saw him in
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is like 4.4 yards per attempt, and he threw a pick six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the last game they saw them in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to your point Antonio, yes he lit up the Ravens, and I am chalking that up as a Ravens problem, because if we track his two best games of the 2025 season with both came against the Ravens, that puts him, you know, and those two very pathetic showings, I think are almost entirely responsible for John Harball being fired.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, if you remove those two games routers through for 2,744 yards in 14 games, which is under 200 yards a game, and yes, I did some further math that would only put them point one yards per game behind Lamar Jackson for the 20-25 season, but you know, the dealers don't have Derek Henry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had, they had Jerry Lidwaran and I don't even remember who else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The, they're, as they're running back sort of tandem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I can excuse the little bar stats he was
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[SPEAKER_01]: Long story short, this is a player in decline, that the Steelers have hitched their wagon too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jason, let me jump in, because that's perfect, that's a perfect example of what we're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had almost identical numbers, for the Ravens that was a catastrophe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The head coach got fired, the offensive coordinator got fired, defensive coordinators gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to revamp everything and start over and bring in new weapons, and the offensive line needs to be fixed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Steelers of that same exact situation was,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Run it back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is exactly what I know the the code Tom and left in his own, but they brought in another coach for the same exact thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A coach has already been with this quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, this is yes, this is the infrastructure that we want to continue with as opposed to like, this was an absolute disaster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, yeah, so that's for me, where it's like, like, what you guys said about them, just setting their ceiling and it's they're
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, I don't know, Tom Brady, I guess, want a Super Bowl at 43.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like the justification.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what, Tom Brady is?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The probably greatest football player of all time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like winning and you know 7 Super Bowl championships and Rodgers has not won the Super Bowl since 2010 We were very young man in college at the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this was a long time ago, and I don't know Yeah, I mean, I want to say it's good for the ravens, but again, we'll lose to that We'll get into this catch one about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure we'll lose to the Steelers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's at least once as has been their recent vintage, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's enough good players here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you know the pitman trade you're like, well, maybe the offense could be better But with the car maybe the car's the figure something's out, but yeah, it just seems like such a low level thing and it just feels like Like we'll fast forward a year and the stealers will win between seven to ten games and
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to get one of these stud guys probably that's going to be at the top of the 27 draft that teams like Cleveland, the jets that Tim was laying out are clearly setting themselves up to lose a ton of games This season to be in position for It doesn't feel like they'll be in the mix for there and then we're just here next user wondering like is Aaron Rogers going to play a 24th season or whatever he's up to like it just feels like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, kind of a whole following situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish them luck, they'll beat us once, and they're not going to win the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's like the short end of this dealer's season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't want to put all my cards on the table, but I do not foresee that winning the division again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that, but I do think the Steelers will probably be in the playoff mix, but not the Super Bowl mix and I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They seem to want to be there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess power to them for like executing on that plan, but everything else, I just kind of have to question a bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Genosmith, you are the Steelers, 2027, starting quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as the wheel continues to spin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, look, it's a lot of talk from us when they, they just, they're both places.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what, it's like the Ravens have beat them like three times in the 2020s, it's like embarrassing in this way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we can just look at just Pittsburgh by itself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, they're not doing it, they're not doing it correctly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, let's get to the schedule now, um, I don't know if I should run, I'm not going to run through it all the way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, let's do it in thirds because that seems to be how this schedule has sort of divided itself when first reviewed, um, because last season they had one of the hardest, like first six games, uh, in like the history of the franchise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now this year it's quite the opposite
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[SPEAKER_02]: At Colts home for the Saints to Rio to face the Dallas Cowboys home for the Tennessee Titans and then back to back road games at Atlanta and at Cleveland and then I'll tack on this week's seven week seven is at home against Cincinnati for a one p.m. Or so none of those teams made the postseason none of those teams had a winning record
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[SPEAKER_02]: this stuff, of course, looking at it last year to this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not like a 1-to-1 measure of like, well, none of these teams will have a winning record this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, obviously there's going to be some flips, which happens every year in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But to start a new regime with a new coach, new coordinators and everything, a nice, maybe soft, soft open here for the Ravens with this first two months of football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, certainly gives Jesse Mentor, you know, at least you think, a couple of weeks to kind of figure things out, you know, you don't want to discount any opponent, but there were rumors that it was going to be what Raven's sincey on Monday night football, another week one where we're in prime time, and you don't get to sit there on your couch on a Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you're enjoying everybody else's football and just dreading your football coming all day I just wait first on as obviously as you can tell I'm very happy that one PM is the kickoff time for the Ravens on week one and then another one PM are on Sunday and then a 425 in Rio but then another one and some one I see a lot of ones here which I thoroughly enjoy I love a good one a clock kickoff and that's what happens when you're eight and nine and fall way below expectations the previous year
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say, and a bit of a teaser as we get into the rest of the schedule, yes, it is nice to kind of have I say this with a grain of salt but a soft landing like our soft approach coming into the season because you have a first-year head coach and you're still new regimes and you want to figure things out this team has to get off to a hot start like there's also that pressure there of
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they will be, obviously we'll see how things change and differ as the season goes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there are these first seven weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You make the Ravens favorites in every single one of those games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe the Dallas game and Rio is a bit weird and Dallas gets off to a hot start and maybe the Ravens are one and one and that flips but
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[SPEAKER_00]: At Indy vs. New Orleans vs. Dallas first in a sea at Atlanta in prime time where I'm just going to predict this Lamar Jackson is going to put up a monster game in front of Arthur Blank being like you should have traded for me, but you didn't want to give away two first round picks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At Cleveland vs. Sincy like that should be
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[SPEAKER_00]: what guys it worst five and two like at worst as you head into the stretch run here so look I think New Orleans is good um i think that'll be a team that i'm circling as many others are for maybe a potential over based on whatever that number is when we do our episode in a couple months time um i think india's is
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[SPEAKER_00]: a feisty team, but I think they are as mid is mid can get Dallas who knows Tennessee's bad Atlanta, you know, streaky, so you should be able to go in there and do something Cleveland's Cleveland, the less said about Cleveland, the better and since he who knows it's kind of a toss up every time they play, especially when both Burrow and Jackson are healthy, but man, as difficult as it is at the end and as many issues I have at the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty much everything you could ask for to start a campaign for the Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree that it's ideal, but I'm also shared the sense with you, Tim, that it's about as soft as you can ask, and that's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think you've got to be like, you can't know one in five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You kind of have to be, if you have serious Super Bowl expectations, five in one, entering that Bengals game, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Certainly, you know, what a repeat of one in five, obviously would be an object disaster, and portenda, like four one season, bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but yeah, I mean, in terms of opponents like Saints at home as your home opener, like I know people are high on Tyler shock and like
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[SPEAKER_01]: there's building blocks there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a rebuilding team that went like 6-11 or whatever the same set ended up going like in the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's things to be excited about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That should be a win at your home opener.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're playing maybe Danny Dime is coming off like a torn Achilles, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was he ACL Achilles, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and his opener or Anthony Richardson or Riley later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to be a W, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there is pressure built into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Dallas game, like if I keep kind of just chalking that up as a loss cause it just seems weird, Dallas and Rio, like I assume it's got to be mostly Cowboys fans down there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, you know, you come back home and you're playing the titan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they're one of the very worst teams in the league for two consecutive years, like that's kind of got to be a W. And there is pressure I think there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, but like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I love the one p.m. the Dallas games 425 but at least it's on a Sunday and what's it like I don't know the early 25 or 525 local time, they're like an hour ahead of us, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, stop pretty normal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ish, you know, on Sunday, it's a long flight away, but not like, you know, same hemisphere or not same hemisphere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: same time zone western hemisphere and then like it like you guys said I mean that added lander is about I feel like as cushy as a prime time kid could get maybe famous last words this tape is not even had a winning season in like eight years so like
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[SPEAKER_01]: and who knows what their quarterback situation is going to be by then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they love giving it our third black pride-pad games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a full balance, he's clearly holds a lot of weight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so for your first pride-gnaut-time game of the year, and you don't play prime time again until November.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's as about as nice a cushion as you can get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do think there's pressure there in having kind of this start, but I think for, you know, it also allows you to
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know the schedule allows you I think to pick up some wins won't that play in perfect football which you also need in this league I think you know not give me's by any stretch but as I said they should be I think like five and one going into that baggles game to end October that's funny this is maybe the first one of the first major moments for me where I want to look at
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[SPEAKER_02]: like the Ravens historically, and I can't because it's a tote, I don't, this is such as variable of the new head coach, to where I don't know certain things that I feel like we've gotten to a nice pattern with Harbaugh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They won a lot of prime time games, yes, Lamar Jackson was a factor, but they did well in prime time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They did well week ones of this regular season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: traditionally just more prepared for that week one game than their opponents over time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We knew that Lamar Jackson was not going to play a down of preseason football as he got more advanced and more unknown entity and then it kind of flipped to where well we know the week one is going to be a little ugly like the offense is going to be sluggish because they haven't played at all in the preseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's all these, like, I don't know any of these things now, I feel like, like, they could stink week one and Lamar Jackson could have played three snaps in the preseason and it didn't mean anything or whatever, there's all these things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if it stands to like, he's a premier quarterback, he's not gonna play a down of preseason football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna be rusty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We won with that offensive unit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like three years in a row now in those week one game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I prefer having it against the Indianapolis cults that I do with the chiefs or the bills or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I can't man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see how that goes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Rio game is another thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: how is mentor going to handle this like immediate test of going very very far away and like dealing with the rest issue and the practices and when to go and how to handle and how to do all that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's some new tests for this team as they open up that first month that first month of the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's move to the middle portion now where it gets significantly less fun from a
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[SPEAKER_02]: they should win a lot of games perspective maybe fun in that the games will be competitive but week eight they are at the buffalo bills at one p.m.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The following Thursday, they play at home against the Jacksonville Jaguars for Thursday night football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that leads into a Monday night game 11, what is that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: 11 days later, which I think I like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it's like kind of getting extra extra rest there, but that is a home game Monday night against the LA Chargers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: then they are at the Carolina Panthers, the following Sunday, and then at the Houston Texans, the Sunday after that, which then leads them into a week 13 by.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of playoff teams there, and yes, the Carolina Panthers were 8 and 9 and a playoff team, but it's five straight opponents that went to the postseason last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, four are going to think that they have Super Bowl aspirations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll let you pick the four, but certainly Buffalo, probably LA and Houston would think that and then Jacksonville, I don't know, happy to be in the postseason maybe, but so a very, very difficult stretch there, including a back to back prime time weirdness Thursday and Monday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but I'll start with the prime time back to back the third day night on November fifth of the Monday night on November 16th
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're both at home, which I don't think I've ever seen for a Ravens before, back to back prime time games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both at home, having that Los Angeles game at home is very nice, so it's not the long travel and as Antonio mentioned, it is extended rest and extended days off, so you could argue that even if it was away, that would be fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And frankly, you know, again, this is all like we're going to get to the season and some teams are going to be way better than we think something's going to be way worse, worse than we think, so we're kind of predicting in a vacuum that is certainly going to change, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty happy with two prime time games back to back and they're both at home and then it's the Jaguiers and the Chargers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that could have been Steelers Bengals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been Bills, Tampa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been, I'm trying to just pick out other teams on this group of teams that we have here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been Cincinnati and one of these other two teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To have it be Jacksonville and the Chargers, you think prime time games are gonna be tougher opponents.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want more premier matchups.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not scared of those too, as much as I would be for some other prime time games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry, that Pittsburgh game week seven or week 18 is going to be flexed to Sunday and football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just know it, but I'm fine with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing I'm not fine with, and I know we knew this already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the hell are we gonna play the bills at home?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and you could, I know you can say, well, if you win some games in the playoffs, you face them at home as we've talked about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't lose to the f and raiders, then you get to get a home playoff game and you don't have to go up to Highmark or whatever the hell the new stadium is called.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like literally like new Highmarkers or new Highmarkers, I think it's still Highmarkers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Highmarkers are new Highmarked hosts or whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, I'm so annoyed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is one of those things where like, there's no conspiracy, there's no nothing like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm sick and tired of playing the bills in Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm super glad it's one o'clock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the prime time games are that week We'd have to I'd have to look that up, but like how buffalo Baltimore is not prime time in the middle of November Doesn't make sense to me, but sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just give us Jacksonville and L.A. instead I'm just so sick of going up the buffalo to get our butts kicked I just really do wish that that was a home game, but other than that, you know
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of fine with the way this tough stretch plays out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now look, is there gonna be more pressure on a team that all of a sudden was like four and three in that opening stretch and needed to be five and two or six and one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it piles pressure on these games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sort of the opposite of what we had last year where it was a gauntlet to start and then everybody was like, it's okay, it's okay because it's cupcakes down the stretch and you know what I'm not being okay because you're rookie kicker can't make a 40-yard field goal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I,
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is tough, and it is annoying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is not the most annoying thing on this schedule for me, and it is not as bad as I think it could be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, too, right before we get to the buy, because I know we stopped at week 12 and then you have the week 13 buy, which I love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, Houston doesn't scare me either, but I think that's mainly because we've done very well against Houston.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It like historically, I know their defense is amazing, but like who knows what CJ Stroud is by week 12 of the 20, 26 season Are we having conversations about like they need to give it back to Davis Mills because CJ Stroud is just a shell of himself And you know, we saw the playoff game where he completely crumbles and gifts the Patriots playoff win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know their defense is amazing, but like, I don't know, the Houston's one of those weird teams for me where I'm just like, you know, doesn't scare me because of just because of the track record and that's dumb fan brain thinking, but that's just kind of where I stand on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the most trap game of all trap games coming off to prime time games at home, maybe a split of maybe you're going to and oh and you're looking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could definitely see that happening, I don't think it will, but that one is just like the most trappy of all the games we have in this schedule as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But so overall, could be worse is kind of my thoughts on the tough stretch there in the middle of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Tim, this is one of the, I think the rarest is where we kind of disagree a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because for me, this is the stretch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that'll make her break the Raven season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get into the back half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But by basically, my reason for that is the FC North I think has been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Despite, you know, those games always be, you know, heart-divisional matchups, but these are all pretty good, you know, you guys laid it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are all playoff teams, and especially, I mean, that buff at Buffalo, that's just a loss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how they divvy up who gets the home away because we did play the bills in Baltimore in 2024, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was the world I'm the big boy when with the Derrick Henry 100 yards, but then that's now two years a row regular season they get so I don't really know how they figure that out or or what goes into that But yeah, at one it doesn't clear the other thing that just annoys me is this is clearly a Gabe CBS protected so we're gonna get human Tony Which is gonna be a low volume game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think for me
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, maybe we'll be surprised with the number 2 team, which is what I and I Charles Davis probably so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can hope, but I'm guessing that was a protected game that CBS really wanted, and that's why we'll get that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm expecting that to be a Jim and Tony game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would say on the prime time, I like that they're both at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The mini-buy, I think is good, especially with a later buy to just kind of work in naturally some extra time off midway through the season, basically, now how long these seasons go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To do a mid-no-vember little mini-break, when you have a full week break later, I think that's great for health management and stuff, and especially with the impotence like this being a hard stretch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, maybe I'm overconfident, but they have had recent prime time success against both, you know, Jacksonville and the chargers, like Antonio, you were kind of saying who knows if all these things hold true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they've actually lost a Jim Harball yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if that keeps up without Harball, John Harball being involved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, so I've got super worried about that game like you said Carolina does scream chat game, but that seems like a win Houston, this one has to be worried because November 29th is my birthday, and I could just see the Texans Sacket Lebar Jackson like nine times and everything's imploding and they're going into the like if they've dropped more of these games that they should they're going into the buy at like
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, six and four or whatever the record would be at that point and there's panic, you know, in Baltimore or maybe, uh, there's just, there's just a lot of potential, I think, for for me to be sad on my birthday for the rate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not talking that up to a win, but they have had the Houston's number historically, uh, not last year, but that was with the, uh, uh, you know, look at the look at the box score for that for that game,
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[SPEAKER_02]: But even the defense they had it was like three starters were actually in that game of the 11 players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a disaster But yeah, that Houston Okay, I was that yeah, you were that game is just a right off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Antonio from last year So historically pretty good against the Texas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just that for me has become a like Hey, can Lamar finish that game healthy that would be good for me because I am terrified of that of that defense
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that would go into the buy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just survive it, get nice and refreshed, and then make that final stretch run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I pulled up the week eight schedule, which is when the Ravens play Buffalo, just to try to understand, like how is this not a prime time game?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Thursday night is Panthers at Packers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Sunday night is Eagles at Commanders, so like a fun,
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[SPEAKER_02]: NFC North or NFC East game there, I guess, and then the Monday night is bears at C-Hawks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So some good games, but as for...
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[SPEAKER_02]: the, I'll call it the Tony Romo situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The one chance, Jayce, I think, is there is Chiefs at Broncos at 425.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, maybe, but if it's November and Denver's, you know, like a 500 team, like back to being, of just a 500 team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's only three, four, four p.m. games that day, four, four, four, 25.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we luck out but you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah if the Broncos are our middle of the pack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, Jens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This sounds like Iron Eagles going to be a buffalo, which I'm super happy about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: sounds way better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can only hope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can only hope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's go to this final stretch now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, the by week in week 13, which I do like, I feel like that's the perfect week to have it like just enough time or just late enough in the year to where the team is still like alive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But
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[SPEAKER_02]: late, so late in the year that they don't have too too many games after that by, if that made sense, week 14 is home against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at 1 p.m. Love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's this weird, this weird final four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just
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[SPEAKER_02]: AFC North, enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At Pittsburgh, 1pm on Sunday, home for the Browns, 1pm on a Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At the Bengals, 815 Thursday night, New Year's Eve, and then that week 18 at home against Pittsburgh with the date not posted yet because it will either be something on Saturday or something on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not fun because you know they're not going for an out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That it's impossible for the Ravens to finish a 4-0 stretch, which they've done in other years with a good team and like the road to the playoffs, blah, blah, blah, they're on a row.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It will not happen when you play Pittsburgh twice, Cleveland, and Cincinnati.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that bums me out because I just know that there's at least one loss in these four games, if not more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So beyond just it all big AFC North opponents you look at the schedule and you see at like besides at Buffalo these are the four coldest possible games that play all year or to end the season and you know given the march access history of cold weather the Ravens in general I don't love that I'll have to say it would have been nice I guess to spread this out that being said you know Cleveland at home to end as like at the end of December
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[SPEAKER_01]: into the Bengals game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine, that should be a win, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, those games can be a low scoring struggle at times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tampa Bay at home, I like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think more than on the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then it just comes down to the Pittsburgh split.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess for me, I just hope that that Pittsburgh, like in a perfect world, they beat the baggles on New Year's Eve to win the division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that Steelers gave becomes a non-factor and we don't have to worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because yeah, it'll be, if that matters at all, that one will
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we can assure that in some sort of standalone window, which I don't love, but yeah, it seems like they're dropping, I could see them losing, like going to and to basically to close the season and I kind of hope you just stack wins to that point because the weather does concern me and just,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all these teams I don't think are great, but also, you know, it's division of matchups and you just struggle with those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I could see where your your trepidation has come from, Tim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I'll say is that the December 31st game is a little diabolical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they've had some Sunday, like a few years ago, the rank was played on this Sunday, but it was a perfect 1pm game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it was nice and they destroyed the dolphins to win the division and the top scene and then I went out with friends and I celebrated you know New Year's Eve and I was back here by like midnight and I ended up watching I think like whatever football game was on I think was the Vikings
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be the game involved that's pushing up against midnight like that's tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this is just part of the jet NFL's general, you know, much has been made of this, but war on families and relationships and stuff, because the Super Bowl's on Valentine's Day this year, and I feel like Valentine's Day and New Year's Eve are like two of what are five most romantic holidays probably, so that's a tough scene for football fans, you know, in relationships and otherwise, but like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't love that being the latest game on New Year's Eve certainly would have been nice to play that out like well it's a Thursday game so I guess it's the only game on that day But it just would have been nice to not be involved in that at all, but uh
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[SPEAKER_01]: that'll be hard to negotiate but hopefully it's a cost for celebration it could be a very dark you know if the bagels are good at all and this is like for the division title ad borrow puts like 500 on them on and then the ball drops like 50 minutes later that's a tough start to the year so I do not like that this game in the least it's the my single least favorite game in the year certainly
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, I guess it has just all all razor potential.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Could be great, but could equally be very sad and terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're telling me that this is the year, the Ravens will definitely make the Super Bowl because it's gonna have to be the hardest possible path in terms of personal lives where it is New Year's Eve and it's Valentine's Day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, I mean, that's 100% what's gonna happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So book it now, maybe they should be favorites for a reason and that's what gamblers are bookies and fandle and other sites like that are looking at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I understand why they do the last game of the season is a division opponent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, obviously it makes it easy to figure out ramifications and what games we can put in prime time because there's division titles on the line and all these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm fine with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a nice way to cap a season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but I'm sorry, I don't understand how they can make a schedule with four division games to round out the month, to round out your final four games of an NFL schedule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that has to be one of these things, and I understand there's,
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[SPEAKER_00]: millions and millions of things that need to be considered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you're running through the algorithm, if you get a, there should be a little red X that pops up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If a team has to play four divisional games to end their season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make any sense to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It basically is going to leave the entire season up to, oh, because like you're just, who knows about the division title?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they could be, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They could be 12 games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They could be 10 and two going into the by week, but they've lost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: two of those games are in division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've lost both Cleveland and Cincinnati games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're oh and two in the division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're Ted and two, but oh, it's like, and it just throws the rhythm of trajectory all the way off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't stand it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that the two games late are both Pittsburgh games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, hopefully it is will hired by that time and not Aaron Rogers, but who knows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I agree, Tampa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Tampa,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost in a way is like the NFC version of the cults where I think there is mid as mid can get and Having them off a buy at home is a very nice little treat, but then to be thrown at Pittsburgh at Sincy and Then home Cleveland, which is you know Cleveland is always a tough game and then to end it with the home Pittsburgh game at least that games at home, I guess, but like
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just diabolical to me and, like, look, you can't have everything your way and this is, I guess, the, the penance you pay for having such an easy start, but they got to find a way to mix like one of those Pittsburgh games and like weak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Four and then putting, you know, Cleveland or since he up in like week 11 or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you do it But I think that's something that it just it the whole vibe of the season is going to be off because you're just waiting on division results and, you know Nothing's really going to be decided until
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not really gonna not even decide it because that's true, but like nothing's really even gonna be known about the division until we get like halfway through that slate like week 17 or so so that that's frustrating to me
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well to just make us feel collectively worse about the series of games, here's who the Steelers play between matchups with the Ravens, while we are playing the Browns and then the Bengals on the road on New Year's Eve as we have established.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Steelers play at home against the Carolina Panthers, time TBD, but that's their week 16 matchup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then they play the Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that cable matter the week 18 game will 100% matter the Steelers will hang around You know, they they manage the Steelers somehow manage to be done with the bangles by November 15th They at least have subsets, but yeah, you're right in that regard Tim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have more a little more annoyed
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[SPEAKER_01]: That what we started the sexer size about this back this back part of the schedule I guess I just kind of falsely assumed that I was like, I guess most teams are playing division Opponents, but now you look at week 17 and week 16 and that's very much not the case Like the bangles like they're closed a similar like they end with Cleveland They play the cults before they play us on on New Year's Eve They play at Carolina, so
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, these games are all gonna matter late as I think the long story short of it, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why it's good to stack wins early, especially with an early, great slate, because there will be, you know, the back half the schedule is definitely way tougher than the front half, I guess, is kind of the takeaways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're gonna have cold weather two games of Baltimore, two one and Pittsburgh, one and Cincinnati at night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be very cold for that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's not ideal, but I guess the only, the one positive, I guess one other positive is,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Besides the 2vd date with the Steelers that almost certainly will be flexed into something prominent, we do have 3 1pm games coming out of the buy, and that's at least a good sign, you know, flex pending, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll try to find the thinnest of silver linings is because that Bengals Week 17 is a Thursday game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: which they'll, and they'll lose that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the Steelers that following Sunday will have like a shock loss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who was it the pantheon, the Titans?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the Titans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They'll have a shock loss to the Titans, which will bring the Ravens back into that last game mattering for the division or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna have extra rest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they'll have three extra days rest and be at home against the Steelers to make the
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[SPEAKER_02]: inevitable collapse that much more uh i'm forgivable so that's where that's where we're at with how we how we feel about this um current relationship with the Pittsburgh rivalry um so that's the schedule guys what's here what's the game that you're most excited about like cynicism aside what's one that you're like that game's gonna be awesome like i i i want that to be like happening right now i i think it's from that i mean
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[SPEAKER_01]: regrettably at Buffalo, I think will be a real telling sort of inflection point, but I'm not super optimistic about that, just because I think they'll lose that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, after an easy start, I think we will kind of have a sense of like, what can the Ravens be this season if they put up like, and if they like get their doors blown off, even if they're like five and two or five and a one, if they got a Buffalo, they just get waxed, like that's not ideal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the one I'd have to say I'm most excited about is that Monday, November 16th, Chargers at home, Monday Night Football, Joe and Troy, a little bit of a rest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like fun, you know, could show out the Mara historically really good at Monday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think for me that's the game, I'm probably like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say most confident in it, but if all the good teams they play, I'm like they should win this game, probably, I'm like the ones versus the good teams, just given the rest, given the circumstances, and yeah, the fact that they play while at home and seem to play while against the chargers historically, so I think for me that that chargers game's got to be number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: week one at Indy baby like let's go let's just get the thing rolling like what are we talking about I just want the season here the first game one o'clock like you're waking up and there's only a couple hours left to game time you don't have to wait all day for Sunday night or you know you're or we're on like Thursday and you've already lost to the chiefs and I just have to miserably watch the rest of the NFL slate it's week one at Indy and look I say some of this is
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also say that because there's not a game here that I'm like, oh man, I can't wait for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like nothing is really scratching that itch, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I think part of that is because the two Steelers games are...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unthinkably late, you know week 15 and week 18, so it's like six months from now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna be sitting here thinking about those The first sincey game, maybe like October 25th although look yeah as Loyal listeners of this show no most of these games just stressed me out rather than I enjoy them, but yeah for me It's just week one at Indy
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get there, you know, just stop on the grave of the RSAs over and over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all for that, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, open up the dome and let's drop 100 on Danny Dimes and the cults because I love beating the crap out of that mid-nothing team that is the Indianapolis cults with no history, no nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, doing that week one, set in a tone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm here for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me, give me week one, baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I tell you what from a gambling perspective, because I looked it up, because I couldn't help myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ravens, three and a half point favourites in Indianapolis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Baby, perfect line, that I know at least two of the people here are going to be bedding on the colds to cover, but the Ravens to him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because that half point is that, that gets the Ravens year and year out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I will say, I'm in a week three, man, give me that Dallas game and Rio, I think the
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[SPEAKER_02]: as opposed to some other international games that you just sort of end up having like fans of football who are just kind of like, yeah, with a beer and like a jersey of a team that's neither one that's actually on the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the Brazil, it's going to be a party, it's going to be awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's early enough in the year to where if they lose, it won't crush me one way or the other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And with these two teams, there's going to be points like there's just going to be touchdowns, big plays.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, give me that Dallas game and I think the Ravens are gonna win because they've also historically done very well against the cowboy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like a high scoring game that ends up with like
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[SPEAKER_01]: a headscratching interception of the press cut and the revins end up winning it by like 10 or 14 something that so uh... that's the one for me uh... that neutral sight Dallas game with three uh... for twelve the one that scares me with that one intonio is that the Brazil games have had some some questionable field up outside yep in recent years now this one is that the the american off very famous stadium uh... you know i i because they haven't played
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[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't actually in Rio, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other games were like, were they like Brazil, yeah, or something like that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I think it was South Paulo, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: South Paulo, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I believe it's the first time going to Rio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, the fans should be fire day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It should be great atmosphere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that is a nice, obviously, I don't know, the biggest soccer fan of the world, but I know that's historically very significant stadium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pronounced immaculate, but you nailed that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so it like that'll be really exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I have Very small fears about the field from like that Packers game that was a Jordan love got injured last year I believe or was that two years ago there like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I just have some fears, but I think atmosphere-wise, I don't know, that should be a really, really exciting game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, it should be awesome, you know, cowboys are always kind of an interesting benchmark is it got to be a good cowboys' team or a bad, that offense should still be good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I think that'll be a nice early test of Jesse Binter's defense, but yeah, the field as long as the field's good, I believe in our friends at Brazil, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about the injury, but I can guarantee there's like the sideline report like, yeah, Lamar Jackson changing his cleats again can't seem to find his footing, so yeah, that for sure, but yeah, hopefully not, hopefully not injuries.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, and then the last thing that I'm going to force my co-hosts to answer and then not hold them accountable for this at all, it's just looking at the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: late may your first predictions on the Raven's record looking at how this shook out and then we're gonna forget about it for the rest of the spring well my first prediction was wrong because I was definitely betting on Jayce to say Mara canna but he said Mara canna which is very good
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[SPEAKER_00]: 11 and six I think 11 and six and I think the over under's 11 and a half of course because I'm it you know I'm always on that under baby and we will we will see as we get closer and one of our favorite episodes of the year the over under's episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm seeing one maybe two losses in that first stretch two losses maybe in the second stretch
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[SPEAKER_00]: and then two in the back half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that gets me to 11 and six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where I'm going there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very close to Tim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just marginally more optimistic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I landed on 12 and 5.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that seems crazy to say to be out loud as an eight and nine team with so many question marks in a new coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But 12 and 5 is the number I landed on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm almost surprised Tim, you went to 11 wins because I expected a 10 and 7, 9 and 8 from you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's early, Jason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you worry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as we get closer to the fall, maybe that number drops, but I think at 12 and 5, too, I feel like optimistic, I think it's a hard schedule, but the Raven should be a good team, you know, Vegas, I don't love that they love the Ravens as much as they do every year when it comes to the Super Bowl odds, but like, they are smart, there's a reason they set it at that because they think the Ravens are a good team and they don't want to lose the house if the Ravens hit,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's a reason there are a bunch of favorites.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think there are good teams despite everything that went wrong last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a path to it bouncing back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the path is just like, well, almost a half with Lamar Jackson and like last year's team would have won 10 or 11 games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I've gone with 12 wins as my initial early prediction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want to just shout 12 to just looking at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to crush that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: by the middle of that stretch of terrifying games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like stuff has changed enough, and then it's like all of a sudden, that's not the most difficult stretch of games for whatever reason injuries or underperformance or what habit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a new me, you know, it's a, it's a more rational me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's also so foolish, Jace, because you mentioned, if Lamar Jackson is just healthy, they're gonna win 12 of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But do I know that he's gonna be healthy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, no, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm gonna just middle and I'm gonna say 11 wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna go with Tim, there's some loss that is so dumb and confounding.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's just a couple in here that you can really just sign off on that at Bills.
01:00:13.643 --> 01:00:16.866
[SPEAKER_02]: at least one of the Pittsburgh games, probably one of the sincey games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's just too many of those that are like, nope, there's four, four loss is done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So two more, we'll find their way onto the, onto the Raven's final tally here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So 11 and 6 for me.
01:00:28.058 --> 01:00:38.368
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the time, we re-record this part, Tim will swing to 10, and I will swing to 12, and that's just all the drop down notes on the beat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But any final thoughts, guys, before we wrap this up,
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think like in terms of schedule, I think we were all collectively pleased.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think to only see initially four prime-time games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the Cowboys ones are stand alone, but I don't think we love prime time, even though historically the Ravens have done well in prime time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of one PM, especially in that first month,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just that NFL season so long now.
01:01:07.412 --> 01:01:24.353
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like the thing where you're like like we were taught like we're like it gets serious in November You're like that's like two months in Like we're just now being like maybe we'll find out about the team like and then it's another two months So it's just a very long slog and you gotta pace yourself
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially you know five still three months out from the start of the season much less like these games We're talking about like at the final game at Pittsburgh's like seven and a half months from now
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[SPEAKER_01]: or verse quiz, but again, so that's a long time from now, so don't need to get to work up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess just as an aside, we never really talked about this, the schedule release as a concept, where like I didn't even watch the Ravens schedule release video, much less anyone's.
01:01:52.544 --> 01:01:57.411
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the schedule release because it's fun to see the schedule.
01:01:57.391 --> 01:01:58.833
[SPEAKER_01]: of my team specifically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even really get worked up beyond like week one.
01:02:01.417 --> 01:02:09.950
[SPEAKER_01]: I take a glance at like week one, I guess, and then other like everything else feels so far out to not even worry about it for a team I don't actively like cheer for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I'm kind of over the schedule release videos.
01:02:14.737 --> 01:02:16.319
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even watch the charger slot this year.
01:02:16.339 --> 01:02:17.180
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of heard about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's some variable involved all that kind of fun stuff.
01:02:20.345 --> 01:02:23.770
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the way they do it is just so convoluted to me.
01:02:23.750 --> 01:02:27.537
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not a fan, but I don't know if you guys are either, but yeah, that's where I stay.
01:02:27.557 --> 01:02:28.439
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't schedule release.
01:02:28.499 --> 01:02:31.344
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the schedule being out, and everything goes like goes with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really need.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it can be fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If it comes to me when I'm on my computer or on my phone, I'll watch it, but I'm not exactly going out to search for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Tim, anything from me or should we uh, no, they all suck and we just don't we just don't need it.
01:02:52.677 --> 01:03:04.455
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was fun when the some teams like the chargers understand social media and they did it, you know, they famously it was what like a tweet about PF Changs or something from the chargers account and they
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[SPEAKER_00]: they just like kept it and that and they understand social and now it's all just forced crap that it's like the Super Bowl for all these people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the Ravens didn't do one because I was scrolling and I was very excited and then it turns out I think they did one with like crashing somebody's wedding which whatever like great but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was almost happy that the Ravens just didn't do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just tweet out of graphic, then I realized, oh no, this video of Z-flowers at some random person's wedding is actually the schedule release.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't watch it.
01:03:31.774 --> 01:03:32.735
[SPEAKER_00]: I just moved on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good on the charges for getting the guy from Halo to do like, yeah, weak one, cardinals and did that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was cool, but I watched about 30 seconds of it and then turned them off and they, they're dumb.
01:03:45.094 --> 01:03:46.015
[SPEAKER_00]: Just give me the graphic.
01:03:46.035 --> 01:03:48.178
[SPEAKER_00]: Old man yells at the cloud, just give me the graphic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they used to be like one like it was like the chargers didn't video and it was like oh that's fun and now you have 32 videos and it feels like it's just this like forced thing that's been like super corporatized as well so which I mean I guess that's the name of the game it's the NFL it's gonna be corporatized but uh
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was equally glad with Tim, I watched like 20 seconds of the Ravens video and fast-forwarded to where the actual schedule was And then I saw they actually just put out a graphic and was like, oh great, and I'm excitedly looked over that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah I am excited for the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to know these games and I think all things considered I'm certainly Preferred this schedule On its face to what we got like last year's difficult start that I did disaster slay and even
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no app chiefs to open the season off a Super Bowl for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No app bills
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but I applied your first game against the team that ended your previous season two years at a row, and then you lose both games, that wasn't fun.
01:04:49.047 --> 01:04:51.550
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad we're just at Colts, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Tim did have the right pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the game to look forward to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just start the year, something simple, not a lot of pressure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have like CBS is like fourth team on this one, probably, or third or fourth squad.
01:05:04.583 --> 01:05:08.807
[SPEAKER_01]: So out of the limelight, it's a great way to start the year, and I'm looking forward to it.
01:05:08.973 --> 01:05:14.143
[SPEAKER_02]: is, is Solomon Wilkats still doing a follow game, so I'd like to see him on this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's definitely audio of us last off season looking at the schedule being like, oh, they better go 4 and 2 and those first 6 and then they went 1 and 5.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a bit more fun, a bit more hopefully enjoyable and maybe the most fun for the listener is like find your road trip You know find the game now that you know on the schedule where it is that you're gonna travel to and whatever you do don't make it the Buffalo one But we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see how it all shakes out a ways to go yet of course until the preseason games in August and then the actual The big boy football that starts September 13th for the Ravens, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's going to do it for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We will once again take very likely a little bit of a break here as the events week to week thin as we turn into June, but if any big
01:06:07.715 --> 01:06:09.959
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, big contract news comes up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll come back to break it down for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But otherwise, you'll see us here at some point in the next few weeks to talk more Ravens with you for J7's and Tim Mercy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am Antonio Barbarra.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for listening to us here on Pot like a Raven we will see you in a few weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The schedule is finally out this week on Pod, like a raven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are in mid-May.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The sun is out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: spring is in full bloom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Orioles are bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's spring time, baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's officially spring time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am Antonio Barbarra here to talk Ravens with you all as there is a little bit of news, but more exciting than the news is the schedule that has been released, so we know who the Ravens are playing, where they're playing, and maybe more importantly for one of my co-hosts when they're playing,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's bring them on now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's start with Tim Horsey, Tim.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Excited to see you, except to see Jason's well, but happy to talk some football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Happy to talk something that seems perhaps a bit more real than like, ooh, the stitching of the jersey is nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The schedule out, and I know that you love, you love yourself a good one P.M. Sunday game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: level one p.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't love spending $100 to watch every single Orioles game and then being absolutely crap this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So next year I think I'm going to have to consult my my legal team of Antonio Barbarra and Jason Evans to or my financial directors, I guess, to make sure that I don't waste money to turn on a team that ends up losing like 11 to three to the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Orioles are really bad, and that was going to be the thing that hopefully got me through this summer, but now let's talk about 1pm starts in Indianapolis, baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Jones week one favored by seven and a half when it went by four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we were talking pre-show and I was gonna save this for later but now let's just do it right at the rip j-7's joins as well and j-7's very into the ravens already because yeah this is kind of for me i don't know because sort of a tale is all this time really the reason i love the ravens is because uh i just lower at least you know my deep love for the ravens kind of developed out of just the world's being terrible i can't
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a measuring school, middle school, high school and hit a point where, yeah, you hit this time of year and you're like, well, this team's not making the play off, so what do I have to look forward to, you know, none of our hockey or basketball teams made the play off in this area, so there's not much going on in terms of sports, so that naturally turns your attention to football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, with the schedule, you know, it gets, this is when I think football gets real for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the next season is like, yeah, we had the draft and that's exciting to get all those new players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, but this is like the, like, the fully like we have turned the page on the, you know, the 20, 25 season and it's just full season ahead in 20, 26, we knew all the opponents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We already knew, like, where they would even play at least home in a way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: ticket the schedule to see the order to debate uh... the prime time game placements or i you know i i go to this year lack thereof which is kind of nice i i think to some degree uh... i'm sure we'll be flexed in the like five prime time games the raven's are good which
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do expect them to be at first glance at this control, but yeah, this is just a really exciting time year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think one that gets amplified for me in more excitement as, yeah, all by other sports teams flounder were over a year from any team I root for participating in the playoffs, which is the tough scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's all we have, it's all I have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I decided to look forward to, you know, it's exciting times this fall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be here kind of before we know it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're like, I don't know, for some stuff, we have to be DC adjacent with our fanned wizards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Number one overall pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were finally bad enough to get the number one pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's how it's been going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Outside of the NFL for this area.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So bring on the schedule, bring on the Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and bring on them being like co-superbowl favorites again already, which is not great that didn't exactly work out last year, so a new schedule and the Ravens once again at the absolute top of
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[SPEAKER_02]: Vegas's odds for winning the Super Bowl, which is, I guess, the goal for this team every year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But before we get to the schedule, I want to get into just a couple of news tidbits that we haven't really covered yet here on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And one of them is Ravens related, and that is Clay's Campbell signed to a one-year deal back in Baltimore, five and a half million dollars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know at first the listener is going to sort of, uh, sigh and shrug like, okay, Clay's Campbell, great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the man is going to be 40 years old when the season starts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, is this really a player who's going to...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you know, like, tick up and move the needle for this team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My answer to that is yes, yes, he will move the needle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had six and a half sex last season, his last four seasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had six and a half, five, six and a half, and five and a half.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, all four of those totals would have led the Ravens in sex last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he started every game over the last three seasons, while ages, you know, 37, 38 and 39.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is incredible consistency, very, very good production for this player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not like a pure edge russia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like kind of a defensive lineman, defensive end, hybrid player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is very, very good production, shockingly good for a player who was played in the league for so long.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very excited about him just as a depth piece for this team at a position that we said was of need with the still lingering question marks with Metabika.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the biggest thing for me Antonella when we talked about coming out of the draft that kind of frankly, you know, especially if Madabike wasn't coming back, we were when we were talked about that, like what they did the draft was kind of not acceptable in terms of showing up the depth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like to go out and get a depth piece like this, like you said, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think the second totals are impressive too when you consider like he was playing for pretty bad teams the last three years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Atlanta Falcons at there, the Miami Dolphids, Arizona Cardinals, like not the cream of the crap of the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think probably all those squads might have even ended up with losing records at the end, you know, just taking a quick glance or maybe Miami scratched a 500.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like not, you know, not top line things, not played for teams that are constantly ahead so you get a sack opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to be able to kind of still have production, like clearly he's taking great care of himself to be able to play and beyond the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think like from that sense, like the depth, he shores that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then just I think for me, there's just like a leadership component too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was pretty much kind of the unquestion leader of the Ravens defense more or less when it like the three years he was on the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and two of those years, they finished second and third and points against in 2020 and 2022, which was a particularly good defensive team, especially once they added Roquon Smith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think for me, like, just leadership, and like he fills the depth of the day, but then if he can like help bring along these young guys, you know, you just drafted Zion, young, rock in the number nine, which will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, look pretty cool, and then you got, you know, they still have clearly high hopes for my green.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he can, like, help those guys come along, well, also just like, you know, plug in the gaps that I've got to sprung up here, um, great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'm all about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, there's a risk, we're about to talk about the risk involved in another 40 year old plus signing for another team here shortly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, so there's obviously a risk at that age and just the wear and tear and he's playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a ton of games, 270 games in the NFL, including 259 stars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is just a lot of football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I think he still obviously feels he can produce, he did produce as a 39-year-old, so, yeah, welcome on back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess the only thing I wish is, like, what a probably, but nice, if he was just all the team in the last three years too, this is a butterfly I always liked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah, I think a great addition to bring back and kind of fill those spots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think the leadership role is so important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You look at this depth chart now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's whatever happens with nominee Matabike, Travis Jones, Project Washington, Jr., John Jenkins, Clayus Campbell are kind of your top five out of a three-man front for your defensive lineman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have the guys, some of the rookies, you got a Koya who's still here, NES Peoples, as well, Fubb, who we all were raving about just because of his name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: draft, and then obviously didn't do too much as a rookie, but maybe he develops and grows, and you get a guy like Campbell who can help supplement that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just a do that, you know, almost joined the Ravens from the Miami Dolphins a couple of years ago at the Trade Deadline, and then that was shot down, and it was clearly a piece that they
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[SPEAKER_00]: wanted and needed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you could see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, last year, the Ravens were the worst team at defensive three and out rate forced in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had 13.3% of drives were three and out from the opposing offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He shares up not only in the run game, but somebody that can get after the past rush or, you know, Jonah Schaffer had this stat of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our Shafer excuse me had this stat that he only had 33 pressures last season, which was 31 31st among interior defense alignment, but he ranked third in ESPN's past rush win rate inside and the only two people better than him were Jeffrey Simmons and Chris Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a guy that clearly can still do it at this level and look, there's going to be injuries are along that front.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that's one of the more demanding positions on the team and
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[SPEAKER_00]: You basically are asking Colleus Campbell, all things considered week one, to be a rotational piece in a defensive line that includes Madabike, Jones, Washington, Jenkins, Peoples, like that is, that's an amazing, he's overqualified for the current role that they have him situated in right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I loved bringing him back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do the just, the Anquan bold in like, this dude was meant to be a rave and I'm so glad he is a rave and type of guy, so good to see him back in Baltimore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another bit of news that I feel like we uh...
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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't have to address, but let's let's get into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is not Ravens related, but it does tie-in to the Ravens twice a year and it's the Pittsburgh Steelers Officially Resigning Aaron Rogers toy one year 25 million dollar deal and the medi-operated train continues I look I know I know that the Steelers beat the Ravens twice last season and then went to the playoffs while the Ravens didn't But the writing is on the wall here, and I think most Steelers fans
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[SPEAKER_02]: What agree with me that they are still or even more so far away from this like fresh rebuild that they need.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to get a franchise quarterback that's actually gonna give them a team that matters in the postseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are once again with him going to win with Rogers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to win too many games to get a top 10 pick, but they're not going to be a relevant playoff contender.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there is no way that this team as it's constructed with him at the quarterback will be feared by anyone if they sort of have a similar season to last year where they kind of sneak in to the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and then immediately get, like, bombarded by whatever opponent they have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, I don't want to say I can't believe that they're doing this again because they've done this exact thing so many times, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I'm not, this is so silly because I'm talking at both sides of my mouth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not afraid of this team, and then on the other side, they beat him twice with this exact same sort of situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm gonna pretend that that's more of a Raven's problem than a Steelers success, but like welcome to 98, again, I guess, with Aaron Rogers as the guy there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think this effectively caps their season expectations, which is crazy to make, that you do this move,
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're trying to refresh this team and like this is the whole argument, I think they bring in Mike McCarthy and it's like, well, if you're bringing in Mike McCarthy, why didn't you just stick with Mike Tomlin?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it doesn't, they don't feel like they're committed to what they need to do and it's kind of
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, maybe not blow it up, but blow it up to some to some degree, you know, that the 27 draft is and who knows because we're still, you know, a year out or a little less than a year out at this point, but it's supposed to be this quarterback heavy draft and you want to get in there with a with a pick where you have teams like, you know, the Cardinals who are basically building the ship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for the quarterback to come in the same thing with the jet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think have three first rounders next year based on some of the picks that they have like with the saws gardener trade and others like they're going to be making moves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to build basically the infrastructure to insert quarterback in and the Steelers are just kind of maintaining the status quo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they wouldn't give a guy like will hire to shout basically some Steelers fans can say will hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Drew Aller pick is all just even more confounding now and then they pick him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they say they have to literally tear down all of the things that he learned at Penn State and building back up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to be this project guy for you that maybe they're thinking they bring in Aaron Rogers at $25 million for another year and then give the keys to Drew Aller if they see positive signs and practice and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just
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[SPEAKER_00]: The plan doesn't make sense and I understand the Steelers want to be a team that like they don't want to do a rebuild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to do a reset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to, you know, they're a proud franchise who needs to maintain some level of success.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the success for years and years and years has been nine and eight, ten and seven and bounced in the wild card ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that just feels like what this is again this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they picked what seven picks behind the Ravens or something like that because they won one more game than them and made
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[SPEAKER_00]: that doesn't that's not effective.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is it is you see it in the NBA you see it in other sports all the time of these teams just beating their head against the wall of mediocrity and
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the NFL, the big thing is get that quarterback that then you can like kind of build around because that elevates your level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Ravens would be in the same situation if they didn't have Lamar Jackson them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we do, and that's why they are kind of pushed to this higher standard almost, but the standard is the standard in Pittsburgh and the standard right now is nine and eight and a wildcard exit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're just kind of spinning their wheels again with the same cast of characters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: well and ownership almost kind of like back them into this corner I think to certainly a big degree like what as you said with the McCarthy hiring like you like yeah they're just setting like a natural cap to like what the team can be like in the immediate and in the long term kind of but like you know because they make the trait like so like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth a little bit here just because like if they didn't make like if Rogers Did decide to not come back and it always seemed like he was gonna come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just likes to you know draw things out So he doesn't have to do it today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there whatever?
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[SPEAKER_01]: However it works out or whatnot, but you know
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[SPEAKER_01]: to like draw this out like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he had decided to not come back, they were like a really un-troubled for the 2026 season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like maybe that's good long term, but they just like had like a three-way season and have one of these like top three picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like as it stands, I guess if I have a worry, you know, like I am with you guys, that I think that I think the Steelers will be a little too competent enough because I don't rather still have like a fine season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we should just point out that like 2025 was Aaron Rodgers' worst season of his career playing a full 16 games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had his fewest yards and fewest TVs he's ever posted when he's basically played a fully healthy season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He only missed one game and he's now 42 years old and he turns 43 before the season concludes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the oldest player in the NFL and when we last saw him in
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is like 4.4 yards per attempt, and he threw a pick six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the last game they saw them in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to your point Antonio, yes he lit up the Ravens, and I am chalking that up as a Ravens problem, because if we track his two best games of the 2025 season with both came against the Ravens, that puts him, you know, and those two very pathetic showings, I think are almost entirely responsible for John Harball being fired.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, if you remove those two games routers through for 2,744 yards in 14 games, which is under 200 yards a game, and yes, I did some further math that would only put them point one yards per game behind Lamar Jackson for the 20-25 season, but you know, the dealers don't have Derek Henry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had, they had Jerry Lidwaran and I don't even remember who else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The, they're, as they're running back sort of tandem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I can excuse the little bar stats he was
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[SPEAKER_01]: Long story short, this is a player in decline, that the Steelers have hitched their wagon too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jason, let me jump in, because that's perfect, that's a perfect example of what we're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had almost identical numbers, for the Ravens that was a catastrophe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The head coach got fired, the offensive coordinator got fired, defensive coordinators gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to revamp everything and start over and bring in new weapons, and the offensive line needs to be fixed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Steelers of that same exact situation was,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Run it back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is exactly what I know the the code Tom and left in his own, but they brought in another coach for the same exact thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A coach has already been with this quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, this is yes, this is the infrastructure that we want to continue with as opposed to like, this was an absolute disaster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, yeah, so that's for me, where it's like, like, what you guys said about them, just setting their ceiling and it's they're
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, I don't know, Tom Brady, I guess, want a Super Bowl at 43.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like the justification.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what, Tom Brady is?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The probably greatest football player of all time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like winning and you know 7 Super Bowl championships and Rodgers has not won the Super Bowl since 2010 We were very young man in college at the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this was a long time ago, and I don't know Yeah, I mean, I want to say it's good for the ravens, but again, we'll lose to that We'll get into this catch one about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure we'll lose to the Steelers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's at least once as has been their recent vintage, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's enough good players here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you know the pitman trade you're like, well, maybe the offense could be better But with the car maybe the car's the figure something's out, but yeah, it just seems like such a low level thing and it just feels like Like we'll fast forward a year and the stealers will win between seven to ten games and
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to get one of these stud guys probably that's going to be at the top of the 27 draft that teams like Cleveland, the jets that Tim was laying out are clearly setting themselves up to lose a ton of games This season to be in position for It doesn't feel like they'll be in the mix for there and then we're just here next user wondering like is Aaron Rogers going to play a 24th season or whatever he's up to like it just feels like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, kind of a whole following situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish them luck, they'll beat us once, and they're not going to win the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's like the short end of this dealer's season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't want to put all my cards on the table, but I do not foresee that winning the division again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that, but I do think the Steelers will probably be in the playoff mix, but not the Super Bowl mix and I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They seem to want to be there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess power to them for like executing on that plan, but everything else, I just kind of have to question a bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Genosmith, you are the Steelers, 2027, starting quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as the wheel continues to spin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, look, it's a lot of talk from us when they, they just, they're both places.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what, it's like the Ravens have beat them like three times in the 2020s, it's like embarrassing in this way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we can just look at just Pittsburgh by itself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, they're not doing it, they're not doing it correctly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, let's get to the schedule now, um, I don't know if I should run, I'm not going to run through it all the way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, let's do it in thirds because that seems to be how this schedule has sort of divided itself when first reviewed, um, because last season they had one of the hardest, like first six games, uh, in like the history of the franchise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now this year it's quite the opposite
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[SPEAKER_02]: At Colts home for the Saints to Rio to face the Dallas Cowboys home for the Tennessee Titans and then back to back road games at Atlanta and at Cleveland and then I'll tack on this week's seven week seven is at home against Cincinnati for a one p.m. Or so none of those teams made the postseason none of those teams had a winning record
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[SPEAKER_02]: this stuff, of course, looking at it last year to this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not like a 1-to-1 measure of like, well, none of these teams will have a winning record this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, obviously there's going to be some flips, which happens every year in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But to start a new regime with a new coach, new coordinators and everything, a nice, maybe soft, soft open here for the Ravens with this first two months of football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, certainly gives Jesse Mentor, you know, at least you think, a couple of weeks to kind of figure things out, you know, you don't want to discount any opponent, but there were rumors that it was going to be what Raven's sincey on Monday night football, another week one where we're in prime time, and you don't get to sit there on your couch on a Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you're enjoying everybody else's football and just dreading your football coming all day I just wait first on as obviously as you can tell I'm very happy that one PM is the kickoff time for the Ravens on week one and then another one PM are on Sunday and then a 425 in Rio but then another one and some one I see a lot of ones here which I thoroughly enjoy I love a good one a clock kickoff and that's what happens when you're eight and nine and fall way below expectations the previous year
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say, and a bit of a teaser as we get into the rest of the schedule, yes, it is nice to kind of have I say this with a grain of salt but a soft landing like our soft approach coming into the season because you have a first-year head coach and you're still new regimes and you want to figure things out this team has to get off to a hot start like there's also that pressure there of
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they will be, obviously we'll see how things change and differ as the season goes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there are these first seven weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You make the Ravens favorites in every single one of those games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe the Dallas game and Rio is a bit weird and Dallas gets off to a hot start and maybe the Ravens are one and one and that flips but
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[SPEAKER_00]: At Indy vs. New Orleans vs. Dallas first in a sea at Atlanta in prime time where I'm just going to predict this Lamar Jackson is going to put up a monster game in front of Arthur Blank being like you should have traded for me, but you didn't want to give away two first round picks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At Cleveland vs. Sincy like that should be
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[SPEAKER_00]: what guys it worst five and two like at worst as you head into the stretch run here so look I think New Orleans is good um i think that'll be a team that i'm circling as many others are for maybe a potential over based on whatever that number is when we do our episode in a couple months time um i think india's is
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[SPEAKER_00]: a feisty team, but I think they are as mid is mid can get Dallas who knows Tennessee's bad Atlanta, you know, streaky, so you should be able to go in there and do something Cleveland's Cleveland, the less said about Cleveland, the better and since he who knows it's kind of a toss up every time they play, especially when both Burrow and Jackson are healthy, but man, as difficult as it is at the end and as many issues I have at the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty much everything you could ask for to start a campaign for the Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree that it's ideal, but I'm also shared the sense with you, Tim, that it's about as soft as you can ask, and that's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think you've got to be like, you can't know one in five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You kind of have to be, if you have serious Super Bowl expectations, five in one, entering that Bengals game, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Certainly, you know, what a repeat of one in five, obviously would be an object disaster, and portenda, like four one season, bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but yeah, I mean, in terms of opponents like Saints at home as your home opener, like I know people are high on Tyler shock and like
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[SPEAKER_01]: there's building blocks there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a rebuilding team that went like 6-11 or whatever the same set ended up going like in the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's things to be excited about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That should be a win at your home opener.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're playing maybe Danny Dime is coming off like a torn Achilles, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was he ACL Achilles, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and his opener or Anthony Richardson or Riley later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to be a W, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there is pressure built into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Dallas game, like if I keep kind of just chalking that up as a loss cause it just seems weird, Dallas and Rio, like I assume it's got to be mostly Cowboys fans down there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, you know, you come back home and you're playing the titan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they're one of the very worst teams in the league for two consecutive years, like that's kind of got to be a W. And there is pressure I think there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, but like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I love the one p.m. the Dallas games 425 but at least it's on a Sunday and what's it like I don't know the early 25 or 525 local time, they're like an hour ahead of us, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, stop pretty normal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ish, you know, on Sunday, it's a long flight away, but not like, you know, same hemisphere or not same hemisphere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: same time zone western hemisphere and then like it like you guys said I mean that added lander is about I feel like as cushy as a prime time kid could get maybe famous last words this tape is not even had a winning season in like eight years so like
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[SPEAKER_01]: and who knows what their quarterback situation is going to be by then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they love giving it our third black pride-pad games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a full balance, he's clearly holds a lot of weight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so for your first pride-gnaut-time game of the year, and you don't play prime time again until November.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's as about as nice a cushion as you can get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do think there's pressure there in having kind of this start, but I think for, you know, it also allows you to
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know the schedule allows you I think to pick up some wins won't that play in perfect football which you also need in this league I think you know not give me's by any stretch but as I said they should be I think like five and one going into that baggles game to end October that's funny this is maybe the first one of the first major moments for me where I want to look at
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[SPEAKER_02]: like the Ravens historically, and I can't because it's a tote, I don't, this is such as variable of the new head coach, to where I don't know certain things that I feel like we've gotten to a nice pattern with Harbaugh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They won a lot of prime time games, yes, Lamar Jackson was a factor, but they did well in prime time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They did well week ones of this regular season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: traditionally just more prepared for that week one game than their opponents over time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We knew that Lamar Jackson was not going to play a down of preseason football as he got more advanced and more unknown entity and then it kind of flipped to where well we know the week one is going to be a little ugly like the offense is going to be sluggish because they haven't played at all in the preseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's all these, like, I don't know any of these things now, I feel like, like, they could stink week one and Lamar Jackson could have played three snaps in the preseason and it didn't mean anything or whatever, there's all these things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if it stands to like, he's a premier quarterback, he's not gonna play a down of preseason football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna be rusty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We won with that offensive unit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like three years in a row now in those week one game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I prefer having it against the Indianapolis cults that I do with the chiefs or the bills or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I can't man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see how that goes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Rio game is another thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: how is mentor going to handle this like immediate test of going very very far away and like dealing with the rest issue and the practices and when to go and how to handle and how to do all that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's some new tests for this team as they open up that first month that first month of the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's move to the middle portion now where it gets significantly less fun from a
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[SPEAKER_02]: they should win a lot of games perspective maybe fun in that the games will be competitive but week eight they are at the buffalo bills at one p.m.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The following Thursday, they play at home against the Jacksonville Jaguars for Thursday night football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that leads into a Monday night game 11, what is that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: 11 days later, which I think I like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it's like kind of getting extra extra rest there, but that is a home game Monday night against the LA Chargers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: then they are at the Carolina Panthers, the following Sunday, and then at the Houston Texans, the Sunday after that, which then leads them into a week 13 by.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of playoff teams there, and yes, the Carolina Panthers were 8 and 9 and a playoff team, but it's five straight opponents that went to the postseason last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, four are going to think that they have Super Bowl aspirations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll let you pick the four, but certainly Buffalo, probably LA and Houston would think that and then Jacksonville, I don't know, happy to be in the postseason maybe, but so a very, very difficult stretch there, including a back to back prime time weirdness Thursday and Monday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but I'll start with the prime time back to back the third day night on November fifth of the Monday night on November 16th
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're both at home, which I don't think I've ever seen for a Ravens before, back to back prime time games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both at home, having that Los Angeles game at home is very nice, so it's not the long travel and as Antonio mentioned, it is extended rest and extended days off, so you could argue that even if it was away, that would be fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And frankly, you know, again, this is all like we're going to get to the season and some teams are going to be way better than we think something's going to be way worse, worse than we think, so we're kind of predicting in a vacuum that is certainly going to change, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty happy with two prime time games back to back and they're both at home and then it's the Jaguiers and the Chargers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that could have been Steelers Bengals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been Bills, Tampa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been, I'm trying to just pick out other teams on this group of teams that we have here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been Cincinnati and one of these other two teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To have it be Jacksonville and the Chargers, you think prime time games are gonna be tougher opponents.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want more premier matchups.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not scared of those too, as much as I would be for some other prime time games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry, that Pittsburgh game week seven or week 18 is going to be flexed to Sunday and football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just know it, but I'm fine with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing I'm not fine with, and I know we knew this already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the hell are we gonna play the bills at home?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and you could, I know you can say, well, if you win some games in the playoffs, you face them at home as we've talked about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't lose to the f and raiders, then you get to get a home playoff game and you don't have to go up to Highmark or whatever the hell the new stadium is called.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like literally like new Highmarkers or new Highmarkers, I think it's still Highmarkers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Highmarkers are new Highmarked hosts or whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, I'm so annoyed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is one of those things where like, there's no conspiracy, there's no nothing like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm sick and tired of playing the bills in Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm super glad it's one o'clock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the prime time games are that week We'd have to I'd have to look that up, but like how buffalo Baltimore is not prime time in the middle of November Doesn't make sense to me, but sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just give us Jacksonville and L.A. instead I'm just so sick of going up the buffalo to get our butts kicked I just really do wish that that was a home game, but other than that, you know
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of fine with the way this tough stretch plays out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now look, is there gonna be more pressure on a team that all of a sudden was like four and three in that opening stretch and needed to be five and two or six and one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it piles pressure on these games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sort of the opposite of what we had last year where it was a gauntlet to start and then everybody was like, it's okay, it's okay because it's cupcakes down the stretch and you know what I'm not being okay because you're rookie kicker can't make a 40-yard field goal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I,
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is tough, and it is annoying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is not the most annoying thing on this schedule for me, and it is not as bad as I think it could be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, too, right before we get to the buy, because I know we stopped at week 12 and then you have the week 13 buy, which I love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, Houston doesn't scare me either, but I think that's mainly because we've done very well against Houston.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It like historically, I know their defense is amazing, but like who knows what CJ Stroud is by week 12 of the 20, 26 season Are we having conversations about like they need to give it back to Davis Mills because CJ Stroud is just a shell of himself And you know, we saw the playoff game where he completely crumbles and gifts the Patriots playoff win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know their defense is amazing, but like, I don't know, the Houston's one of those weird teams for me where I'm just like, you know, doesn't scare me because of just because of the track record and that's dumb fan brain thinking, but that's just kind of where I stand on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the most trap game of all trap games coming off to prime time games at home, maybe a split of maybe you're going to and oh and you're looking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could definitely see that happening, I don't think it will, but that one is just like the most trappy of all the games we have in this schedule as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But so overall, could be worse is kind of my thoughts on the tough stretch there in the middle of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Tim, this is one of the, I think the rarest is where we kind of disagree a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because for me, this is the stretch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that'll make her break the Raven season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get into the back half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But by basically, my reason for that is the FC North I think has been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Despite, you know, those games always be, you know, heart-divisional matchups, but these are all pretty good, you know, you guys laid it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are all playoff teams, and especially, I mean, that buff at Buffalo, that's just a loss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how they divvy up who gets the home away because we did play the bills in Baltimore in 2024, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was the world I'm the big boy when with the Derrick Henry 100 yards, but then that's now two years a row regular season they get so I don't really know how they figure that out or or what goes into that But yeah, at one it doesn't clear the other thing that just annoys me is this is clearly a Gabe CBS protected so we're gonna get human Tony Which is gonna be a low volume game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think for me
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, maybe we'll be surprised with the number 2 team, which is what I and I Charles Davis probably so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can hope, but I'm guessing that was a protected game that CBS really wanted, and that's why we'll get that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm expecting that to be a Jim and Tony game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would say on the prime time, I like that they're both at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The mini-buy, I think is good, especially with a later buy to just kind of work in naturally some extra time off midway through the season, basically, now how long these seasons go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To do a mid-no-vember little mini-break, when you have a full week break later, I think that's great for health management and stuff, and especially with the impotence like this being a hard stretch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, maybe I'm overconfident, but they have had recent prime time success against both, you know, Jacksonville and the chargers, like Antonio, you were kind of saying who knows if all these things hold true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they've actually lost a Jim Harball yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if that keeps up without Harball, John Harball being involved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, so I've got super worried about that game like you said Carolina does scream chat game, but that seems like a win Houston, this one has to be worried because November 29th is my birthday, and I could just see the Texans Sacket Lebar Jackson like nine times and everything's imploding and they're going into the like if they've dropped more of these games that they should they're going into the buy at like
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, six and four or whatever the record would be at that point and there's panic, you know, in Baltimore or maybe, uh, there's just, there's just a lot of potential, I think, for for me to be sad on my birthday for the rate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not talking that up to a win, but they have had the Houston's number historically, uh, not last year, but that was with the, uh, uh, you know, look at the look at the box score for that for that game,
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[SPEAKER_02]: But even the defense they had it was like three starters were actually in that game of the 11 players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a disaster But yeah, that Houston Okay, I was that yeah, you were that game is just a right off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Antonio from last year So historically pretty good against the Texas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just that for me has become a like Hey, can Lamar finish that game healthy that would be good for me because I am terrified of that of that defense
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that would go into the buy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just survive it, get nice and refreshed, and then make that final stretch run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I pulled up the week eight schedule, which is when the Ravens play Buffalo, just to try to understand, like how is this not a prime time game?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Thursday night is Panthers at Packers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Sunday night is Eagles at Commanders, so like a fun,
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[SPEAKER_02]: NFC North or NFC East game there, I guess, and then the Monday night is bears at C-Hawks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So some good games, but as for...
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[SPEAKER_02]: the, I'll call it the Tony Romo situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The one chance, Jayce, I think, is there is Chiefs at Broncos at 425.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, maybe, but if it's November and Denver's, you know, like a 500 team, like back to being, of just a 500 team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's only three, four, four p.m. games that day, four, four, four, 25.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we luck out but you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah if the Broncos are our middle of the pack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, Jens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This sounds like Iron Eagles going to be a buffalo, which I'm super happy about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: sounds way better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can only hope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can only hope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's go to this final stretch now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, the by week in week 13, which I do like, I feel like that's the perfect week to have it like just enough time or just late enough in the year to where the team is still like alive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But
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[SPEAKER_02]: late, so late in the year that they don't have too too many games after that by, if that made sense, week 14 is home against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at 1 p.m. Love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's this weird, this weird final four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just
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[SPEAKER_02]: AFC North, enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At Pittsburgh, 1pm on Sunday, home for the Browns, 1pm on a Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At the Bengals, 815 Thursday night, New Year's Eve, and then that week 18 at home against Pittsburgh with the date not posted yet because it will either be something on Saturday or something on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not fun because you know they're not going for an out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That it's impossible for the Ravens to finish a 4-0 stretch, which they've done in other years with a good team and like the road to the playoffs, blah, blah, blah, they're on a row.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It will not happen when you play Pittsburgh twice, Cleveland, and Cincinnati.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that bums me out because I just know that there's at least one loss in these four games, if not more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So beyond just it all big AFC North opponents you look at the schedule and you see at like besides at Buffalo these are the four coldest possible games that play all year or to end the season and you know given the march access history of cold weather the Ravens in general I don't love that I'll have to say it would have been nice I guess to spread this out that being said you know Cleveland at home to end as like at the end of December
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[SPEAKER_01]: into the Bengals game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine, that should be a win, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, those games can be a low scoring struggle at times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tampa Bay at home, I like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think more than on the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then it just comes down to the Pittsburgh split.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess for me, I just hope that that Pittsburgh, like in a perfect world, they beat the baggles on New Year's Eve to win the division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that Steelers gave becomes a non-factor and we don't have to worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because yeah, it'll be, if that matters at all, that one will
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we can assure that in some sort of standalone window, which I don't love, but yeah, it seems like they're dropping, I could see them losing, like going to and to basically to close the season and I kind of hope you just stack wins to that point because the weather does concern me and just,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all these teams I don't think are great, but also, you know, it's division of matchups and you just struggle with those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I could see where your your trepidation has come from, Tim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I'll say is that the December 31st game is a little diabolical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they've had some Sunday, like a few years ago, the rank was played on this Sunday, but it was a perfect 1pm game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it was nice and they destroyed the dolphins to win the division and the top scene and then I went out with friends and I celebrated you know New Year's Eve and I was back here by like midnight and I ended up watching I think like whatever football game was on I think was the Vikings
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be the game involved that's pushing up against midnight like that's tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this is just part of the jet NFL's general, you know, much has been made of this, but war on families and relationships and stuff, because the Super Bowl's on Valentine's Day this year, and I feel like Valentine's Day and New Year's Eve are like two of what are five most romantic holidays probably, so that's a tough scene for football fans, you know, in relationships and otherwise, but like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't love that being the latest game on New Year's Eve certainly would have been nice to play that out like well it's a Thursday game so I guess it's the only game on that day But it just would have been nice to not be involved in that at all, but uh
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[SPEAKER_01]: that'll be hard to negotiate but hopefully it's a cost for celebration it could be a very dark you know if the bagels are good at all and this is like for the division title ad borrow puts like 500 on them on and then the ball drops like 50 minutes later that's a tough start to the year so I do not like that this game in the least it's the my single least favorite game in the year certainly
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, I guess it has just all all razor potential.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Could be great, but could equally be very sad and terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're telling me that this is the year, the Ravens will definitely make the Super Bowl because it's gonna have to be the hardest possible path in terms of personal lives where it is New Year's Eve and it's Valentine's Day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, I mean, that's 100% what's gonna happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So book it now, maybe they should be favorites for a reason and that's what gamblers are bookies and fandle and other sites like that are looking at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I understand why they do the last game of the season is a division opponent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, obviously it makes it easy to figure out ramifications and what games we can put in prime time because there's division titles on the line and all these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm fine with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a nice way to cap a season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but I'm sorry, I don't understand how they can make a schedule with four division games to round out the month, to round out your final four games of an NFL schedule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that has to be one of these things, and I understand there's,
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[SPEAKER_00]: millions and millions of things that need to be considered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you're running through the algorithm, if you get a, there should be a little red X that pops up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If a team has to play four divisional games to end their season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make any sense to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It basically is going to leave the entire season up to, oh, because like you're just, who knows about the division title?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they could be, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They could be 12 games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They could be 10 and two going into the by week, but they've lost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: two of those games are in division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've lost both Cleveland and Cincinnati games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're oh and two in the division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're Ted and two, but oh, it's like, and it just throws the rhythm of trajectory all the way off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't stand it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that the two games late are both Pittsburgh games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, hopefully it is will hired by that time and not Aaron Rogers, but who knows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I agree, Tampa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Tampa,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost in a way is like the NFC version of the cults where I think there is mid as mid can get and Having them off a buy at home is a very nice little treat, but then to be thrown at Pittsburgh at Sincy and Then home Cleveland, which is you know Cleveland is always a tough game and then to end it with the home Pittsburgh game at least that games at home, I guess, but like
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just diabolical to me and, like, look, you can't have everything your way and this is, I guess, the, the penance you pay for having such an easy start, but they got to find a way to mix like one of those Pittsburgh games and like weak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Four and then putting, you know, Cleveland or since he up in like week 11 or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you do it But I think that's something that it just it the whole vibe of the season is going to be off because you're just waiting on division results and, you know Nothing's really going to be decided until
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not really gonna not even decide it because that's true, but like nothing's really even gonna be known about the division until we get like halfway through that slate like week 17 or so so that that's frustrating to me
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well to just make us feel collectively worse about the series of games, here's who the Steelers play between matchups with the Ravens, while we are playing the Browns and then the Bengals on the road on New Year's Eve as we have established.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Steelers play at home against the Carolina Panthers, time TBD, but that's their week 16 matchup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then they play the Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that cable matter the week 18 game will 100% matter the Steelers will hang around You know, they they manage the Steelers somehow manage to be done with the bangles by November 15th They at least have subsets, but yeah, you're right in that regard Tim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have more a little more annoyed
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[SPEAKER_01]: That what we started the sexer size about this back this back part of the schedule I guess I just kind of falsely assumed that I was like, I guess most teams are playing division Opponents, but now you look at week 17 and week 16 and that's very much not the case Like the bangles like they're closed a similar like they end with Cleveland They play the cults before they play us on on New Year's Eve They play at Carolina, so
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, these games are all gonna matter late as I think the long story short of it, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why it's good to stack wins early, especially with an early, great slate, because there will be, you know, the back half the schedule is definitely way tougher than the front half, I guess, is kind of the takeaways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're gonna have cold weather two games of Baltimore, two one and Pittsburgh, one and Cincinnati at night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be very cold for that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's not ideal, but I guess the only, the one positive, I guess one other positive is,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Besides the 2vd date with the Steelers that almost certainly will be flexed into something prominent, we do have 3 1pm games coming out of the buy, and that's at least a good sign, you know, flex pending, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll try to find the thinnest of silver linings is because that Bengals Week 17 is a Thursday game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: which they'll, and they'll lose that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the Steelers that following Sunday will have like a shock loss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who was it the pantheon, the Titans?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the Titans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They'll have a shock loss to the Titans, which will bring the Ravens back into that last game mattering for the division or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna have extra rest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they'll have three extra days rest and be at home against the Steelers to make the
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[SPEAKER_02]: inevitable collapse that much more uh i'm forgivable so that's where that's where we're at with how we how we feel about this um current relationship with the Pittsburgh rivalry um so that's the schedule guys what's here what's the game that you're most excited about like cynicism aside what's one that you're like that game's gonna be awesome like i i i want that to be like happening right now i i think it's from that i mean
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[SPEAKER_01]: regrettably at Buffalo, I think will be a real telling sort of inflection point, but I'm not super optimistic about that, just because I think they'll lose that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, after an easy start, I think we will kind of have a sense of like, what can the Ravens be this season if they put up like, and if they like get their doors blown off, even if they're like five and two or five and a one, if they got a Buffalo, they just get waxed, like that's not ideal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the one I'd have to say I'm most excited about is that Monday, November 16th, Chargers at home, Monday Night Football, Joe and Troy, a little bit of a rest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like fun, you know, could show out the Mara historically really good at Monday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think for me that's the game, I'm probably like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say most confident in it, but if all the good teams they play, I'm like they should win this game, probably, I'm like the ones versus the good teams, just given the rest, given the circumstances, and yeah, the fact that they play while at home and seem to play while against the chargers historically, so I think for me that that chargers game's got to be number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: week one at Indy baby like let's go let's just get the thing rolling like what are we talking about I just want the season here the first game one o'clock like you're waking up and there's only a couple hours left to game time you don't have to wait all day for Sunday night or you know you're or we're on like Thursday and you've already lost to the chiefs and I just have to miserably watch the rest of the NFL slate it's week one at Indy and look I say some of this is
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also say that because there's not a game here that I'm like, oh man, I can't wait for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like nothing is really scratching that itch, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I think part of that is because the two Steelers games are...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unthinkably late, you know week 15 and week 18, so it's like six months from now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna be sitting here thinking about those The first sincey game, maybe like October 25th although look yeah as Loyal listeners of this show no most of these games just stressed me out rather than I enjoy them, but yeah for me It's just week one at Indy
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get there, you know, just stop on the grave of the RSAs over and over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all for that, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, open up the dome and let's drop 100 on Danny Dimes and the cults because I love beating the crap out of that mid-nothing team that is the Indianapolis cults with no history, no nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, doing that week one, set in a tone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm here for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me, give me week one, baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I tell you what from a gambling perspective, because I looked it up, because I couldn't help myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ravens, three and a half point favourites in Indianapolis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Baby, perfect line, that I know at least two of the people here are going to be bedding on the colds to cover, but the Ravens to him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because that half point is that, that gets the Ravens year and year out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I will say, I'm in a week three, man, give me that Dallas game and Rio, I think the
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[SPEAKER_02]: as opposed to some other international games that you just sort of end up having like fans of football who are just kind of like, yeah, with a beer and like a jersey of a team that's neither one that's actually on the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the Brazil, it's going to be a party, it's going to be awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's early enough in the year to where if they lose, it won't crush me one way or the other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And with these two teams, there's going to be points like there's just going to be touchdowns, big plays.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, give me that Dallas game and I think the Ravens are gonna win because they've also historically done very well against the cowboy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like a high scoring game that ends up with like
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[SPEAKER_01]: a headscratching interception of the press cut and the revins end up winning it by like 10 or 14 something that so uh... that's the one for me uh... that neutral sight Dallas game with three uh... for twelve the one that scares me with that one intonio is that the Brazil games have had some some questionable field up outside yep in recent years now this one is that the the american off very famous stadium uh... you know i i because they haven't played
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[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't actually in Rio, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other games were like, were they like Brazil, yeah, or something like that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I think it was South Paulo, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: South Paulo, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I believe it's the first time going to Rio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, the fans should be fire day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It should be great atmosphere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that is a nice, obviously, I don't know, the biggest soccer fan of the world, but I know that's historically very significant stadium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pronounced immaculate, but you nailed that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so it like that'll be really exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I have Very small fears about the field from like that Packers game that was a Jordan love got injured last year I believe or was that two years ago there like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I just have some fears, but I think atmosphere-wise, I don't know, that should be a really, really exciting game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, it should be awesome, you know, cowboys are always kind of an interesting benchmark is it got to be a good cowboys' team or a bad, that offense should still be good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I think that'll be a nice early test of Jesse Binter's defense, but yeah, the field as long as the field's good, I believe in our friends at Brazil, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about the injury, but I can guarantee there's like the sideline report like, yeah, Lamar Jackson changing his cleats again can't seem to find his footing, so yeah, that for sure, but yeah, hopefully not, hopefully not injuries.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, and then the last thing that I'm going to force my co-hosts to answer and then not hold them accountable for this at all, it's just looking at the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: late may your first predictions on the Raven's record looking at how this shook out and then we're gonna forget about it for the rest of the spring well my first prediction was wrong because I was definitely betting on Jayce to say Mara canna but he said Mara canna which is very good
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[SPEAKER_00]: 11 and six I think 11 and six and I think the over under's 11 and a half of course because I'm it you know I'm always on that under baby and we will we will see as we get closer and one of our favorite episodes of the year the over under's episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm seeing one maybe two losses in that first stretch two losses maybe in the second stretch
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[SPEAKER_00]: and then two in the back half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that gets me to 11 and six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where I'm going there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very close to Tim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just marginally more optimistic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I landed on 12 and 5.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that seems crazy to say to be out loud as an eight and nine team with so many question marks in a new coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But 12 and 5 is the number I landed on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm almost surprised Tim, you went to 11 wins because I expected a 10 and 7, 9 and 8 from you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's early, Jason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you worry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as we get closer to the fall, maybe that number drops, but I think at 12 and 5, too, I feel like optimistic, I think it's a hard schedule, but the Raven should be a good team, you know, Vegas, I don't love that they love the Ravens as much as they do every year when it comes to the Super Bowl odds, but like, they are smart, there's a reason they set it at that because they think the Ravens are a good team and they don't want to lose the house if the Ravens hit,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's a reason there are a bunch of favorites.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think there are good teams despite everything that went wrong last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a path to it bouncing back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the path is just like, well, almost a half with Lamar Jackson and like last year's team would have won 10 or 11 games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I've gone with 12 wins as my initial early prediction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want to just shout 12 to just looking at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to crush that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: by the middle of that stretch of terrifying games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like stuff has changed enough, and then it's like all of a sudden, that's not the most difficult stretch of games for whatever reason injuries or underperformance or what habit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a new me, you know, it's a, it's a more rational me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's also so foolish, Jace, because you mentioned, if Lamar Jackson is just healthy, they're gonna win 12 of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But do I know that he's gonna be healthy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, no, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm gonna just middle and I'm gonna say 11 wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna go with Tim, there's some loss that is so dumb and confounding.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's just a couple in here that you can really just sign off on that at Bills.
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[SPEAKER_02]: at least one of the Pittsburgh games, probably one of the sincey games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's just too many of those that are like, nope, there's four, four loss is done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So two more, we'll find their way onto the, onto the Raven's final tally here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So 11 and 6 for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And by the time, we re-record this part, Tim will swing to 10, and I will swing to 12, and that's just all the drop down notes on the beat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But any final thoughts, guys, before we wrap this up,
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think like in terms of schedule, I think we were all collectively pleased.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think to only see initially four prime-time games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the Cowboys ones are stand alone, but I don't think we love prime time, even though historically the Ravens have done well in prime time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of one PM, especially in that first month,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just that NFL season so long now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like the thing where you're like like we were taught like we're like it gets serious in November You're like that's like two months in Like we're just now being like maybe we'll find out about the team like and then it's another two months So it's just a very long slog and you gotta pace yourself
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially you know five still three months out from the start of the season much less like these games We're talking about like at the final game at Pittsburgh's like seven and a half months from now
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[SPEAKER_01]: or verse quiz, but again, so that's a long time from now, so don't need to get to work up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess just as an aside, we never really talked about this, the schedule release as a concept, where like I didn't even watch the Ravens schedule release video, much less anyone's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the schedule release because it's fun to see the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of my team specifically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even really get worked up beyond like week one.
01:02:01.417 --> 01:02:09.950
[SPEAKER_01]: I take a glance at like week one, I guess, and then other like everything else feels so far out to not even worry about it for a team I don't actively like cheer for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I'm kind of over the schedule release videos.
01:02:14.737 --> 01:02:16.319
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even watch the charger slot this year.
01:02:16.339 --> 01:02:17.180
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of heard about it.
01:02:17.841 --> 01:02:20.325
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some variable involved all that kind of fun stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the way they do it is just so convoluted to me.
01:02:23.750 --> 01:02:27.537
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not a fan, but I don't know if you guys are either, but yeah, that's where I stay.
01:02:27.557 --> 01:02:28.439
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't schedule release.
01:02:28.499 --> 01:02:31.344
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the schedule being out, and everything goes like goes with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really need.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it can be fun.
01:02:36.914 --> 01:02:46.872
[SPEAKER_02]: If it comes to me when I'm on my computer or on my phone, I'll watch it, but I'm not exactly going out to search for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Tim, anything from me or should we uh, no, they all suck and we just don't we just don't need it.
01:02:52.677 --> 01:03:04.455
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was fun when the some teams like the chargers understand social media and they did it, you know, they famously it was what like a tweet about PF Changs or something from the chargers account and they
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[SPEAKER_00]: they just like kept it and that and they understand social and now it's all just forced crap that it's like the Super Bowl for all these people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the Ravens didn't do one because I was scrolling and I was very excited and then it turns out I think they did one with like crashing somebody's wedding which whatever like great but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was almost happy that the Ravens just didn't do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just tweet out of graphic, then I realized, oh no, this video of Z-flowers at some random person's wedding is actually the schedule release.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't watch it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just moved on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good on the charges for getting the guy from Halo to do like, yeah, weak one, cardinals and did that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was cool, but I watched about 30 seconds of it and then turned them off and they, they're dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just give me the graphic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Old man yells at the cloud, just give me the graphic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they used to be like one like it was like the chargers didn't video and it was like oh that's fun and now you have 32 videos and it feels like it's just this like forced thing that's been like super corporatized as well so which I mean I guess that's the name of the game it's the NFL it's gonna be corporatized but uh
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was equally glad with Tim, I watched like 20 seconds of the Ravens video and fast-forwarded to where the actual schedule was And then I saw they actually just put out a graphic and was like, oh great, and I'm excitedly looked over that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah I am excited for the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to know these games and I think all things considered I'm certainly Preferred this schedule On its face to what we got like last year's difficult start that I did disaster slay and even
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no app chiefs to open the season off a Super Bowl for them.
01:04:38.293 --> 01:04:39.883
[SPEAKER_01]: No app bills
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but I applied your first game against the team that ended your previous season two years at a row, and then you lose both games, that wasn't fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad we're just at Colts, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Tim did have the right pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the game to look forward to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just start the year, something simple, not a lot of pressure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have like CBS is like fourth team on this one, probably, or third or fourth squad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So out of the limelight, it's a great way to start the year, and I'm looking forward to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: is, is Solomon Wilkats still doing a follow game, so I'd like to see him on this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's definitely audio of us last off season looking at the schedule being like, oh, they better go 4 and 2 and those first 6 and then they went 1 and 5.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a bit more fun, a bit more hopefully enjoyable and maybe the most fun for the listener is like find your road trip You know find the game now that you know on the schedule where it is that you're gonna travel to and whatever you do don't make it the Buffalo one But we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see how it all shakes out a ways to go yet of course until the preseason games in August and then the actual The big boy football that starts September 13th for the Ravens, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's going to do it for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We will once again take very likely a little bit of a break here as the events week to week thin as we turn into June, but if any big
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, big contract news comes up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll come back to break it down for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But otherwise, you'll see us here at some point in the next few weeks to talk more Ravens with you for J7's and Tim Mercy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am Antonio Barbarra.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for listening to us here on Pot like a Raven we will see you in a few weeks.