INFORMAZIONI SU QUESTO EPISODIO
So Taylor Swift got married, Adam Sandler officiated (yes, really, no one knows why either), and you could buy ‘wedding memorabilia’ off a New York street artist - including a used ovulation test - for $25. We live in a society.
Then there’s the Xbox stuff, which is a lot. Like, a LOT. Thousands of jobs gone, Double Fine just… set free, id Software’s programmers shown the door (great for the legendary game engine people, obviously), and Obsidian pulled off Avowed 2 to go make Fallout instead. The good news: this is what everyone wanted since New Vegas. The bad news: it’s happening because Microsoft bought literally everything and then panicked.
Sony’s having a bad fortnight too. No disc drive on PS6, and they’re nuking 551 movies from people’s PlayStation libraries because the licenses ran out. You know, movies people paid for. Bought. Owned. Allegedly.
Armie Hammer took a role in Uwe Boll’s new film without reading the full script, then rang his publicist crying after he saw it. He did say he’d do the sequel for ’life-changing money,’ which is a very reasonable position. Mindhunter is dead forever and Fincher hates that you keep asking. Ludwig got renewed for season 3 before season 2 is even out, which - watch Ludwig. And Supergirl bombed harder than Blue Beetle, which is impressive given that nobody remembered Blue Beetle existed.
Topics discussed
- Taylor Swift wedding & garbage sale
- Xbox mass layoffs & studio resets
- id Software layoffs
- Obsidian moves to new Fallout game
- Valve comments on Steam Machine pricing
- RAM and storage price surge
- AI bubble & rising AI costs
- Sony ditches PS6 disc drive
- Sony deletes 551 licensed movies
- PS Plus cancellations in protest
- Uwe Boll's Citizen Vigilante distribution
- Armie Hammer's comeback backlash
- The Odyssey reviews & IMAX debate
- Mindhunter officially cancelled
- Ludwig renewed for season 3
- Last One Laughing (Australian) reaction
- Supergirl box office bomb
Full show notes and links: https://multiplenerdgasm.com/656-firing-squad/
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[music] >> Multiple nerdgasm.
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>> Hi. >> Hey. How are you? >> I'm good. How are you?
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>> I'm going to apologize. I have not done anything to research anything for this
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show this week. >> Okay, and that's different normal Okay. >> [laughter] >> All right.
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That's fine. There's a lot in here actually. Uh it's been busy because we didn't
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record last week. >> Oh, that's right. >> Because it was America's birthday. >> Yes.
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>> America turned 250. >> Yep. >> And I was in Vermont. So.
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I apologize. >> And you had lots of fireworks.
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>> We did. We had lots of fireworks and beer. It's good.
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>> I don't really picture beer as being part of America's thing, but I guess it is.
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>> What should I have been drinking? >> I don't know. Just in my head, Americans
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don't drink beer. I know they do. >> Mhm. Oh, they do.
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>> movies, it's only the rednecks that drink beer. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah, they
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>> And then everyone else is on spirits. >> Okay. Yeah.
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Okay. Like beer, bourbon I guess is is pretty American. >> Yeah. They drink it straight.
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>> Yeah. Okay. They don't. They don't. They drink beer and like
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uh What are those [ __ ] things? High Noons and uh >> High Noon?
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>> Uh what are the new iced tea ones? Iced tea >> Iced tea?
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>> drinks. Yeah, what is it called? They're really popular right now. Uh drink in
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Sun Cruisers. >> Sun Cruisers? And what's in that? >> They're pretty [ __ ] good. Uh
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it's iced tea and vodka. >> Okay. It's sort of like what they did with Solo.
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>> Yeah, and you can get it mixed with lemonade as well, like a half it iced
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tea half lemonade and then uh there's like blueberry lemonade
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strawberry lemonade pink lemonade it's anyway get you
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>> for for a country that doesn't let you drink before you're 21 they're really
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[laughter] aiming for teenagers aren't they? >> I know I
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everybody drinks these like we go to [ __ ] kids birthday
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parties the dads are drinking these like these are very popular.
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>> Oh there is a a joke out about here about like Australian men not liking
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beer anymore so I guess that's made it to America as well.
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>> Yeah I guess so. Yeah no it's Sun Cruiser hard answer well these are
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I mean this is not super interesting but it's like it's lower calories people are
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worried about calories. reasonably >> I'm not I've just accepted my fate.
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>> fair >> Mhm. >> Anyway. Uh that's alcohol news for this week.
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Yes. Um where should we begin? I think >> start off with the most important thing?
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>> Yeah is it I'm going in. >> Tell us who's got married. >> Yeah and
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we weren't invited. >> No which I found quite rude.
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>> Yeah we were we're not invited although neither was Ryan Reynolds so
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um you know >> Yeah. >> Although I don't think we've done as much wrong as Ryan Reynolds.
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>> As Ryan Reynolds so >> he's really really not popular these days apparently
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but yeah she got married in in New York and everybody's been talking about it.
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>> And the thing that I found most the weirdest thing about all of this
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was the fact that Adam Sandler officiated that's the one thing that
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came out of nowhere for me. >> [laughter] >> I don't understand I don't understand.
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Did he do it in a silly voice like >> Did he do it in his basketball shorts?
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Like he's always in his basketball shorts like is he just like >> It's so odd. >> Does
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>> I even know him? >> Like Yeah, well, they must.
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Like They must be friends. >> Well, I don't see them being friends. I
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see them being from very different worlds. >> Yeah.
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>> Like all three three of them. Like none of them cross over.
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>> Yeah, they got sports man, music girl, and allegedly funny guy. >> Yeah.
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>> do funny things anymore. He does he does serious acting. Sorry. But
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>> Um I haven't seen any of that. >> I just don't know. I just confused by
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that. But I mean whatever. I'm sure they had a lovely wedding. I'm
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sure it was very expensive. Uh and >> more than would
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I like I probably live off the rest of my life of what they spent on this wedding.
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>> Yeah, absolutely. Uh and if you
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gentle listener would like a piece of Taylor Swift's wedding, apparently you,
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like other fans, can purchase garbage from the wedding for $25. Uh
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>> Including cigarette butts and ovulation test kit. >> [laughter]
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>> And things people think Okay. Who the [ __ ] was doing that at the
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wedding? And where did you get this trash? Like >> Trash? >> Like
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Yeah. Uh a New York artist picked up the garbage from city streets around Madison
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Square Garden. And uh they're all sold within 24 hours.
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Water bottle caps, ring pop candy, police caution tape, straws, utensils,
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and a single left airpod. >> Ooh. Imagine you could find out whose that
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was though. >> The artist described everything as a sculpture.
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And uh he's made 1,250 bucks. >> And the thing is you don't know if it was anyone
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at the wedding. It was just garbage Trump around. >> Trash from New York, which I'm not I
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don't know if you've been to New York. I know you have. I don't know if the
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listeners have. There's plenty of it. You can get it for
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free. They're just throwing it out in the street. >> [laughter]
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>> [ __ ] bags of it in the street. >> Anything in here that he got it from
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inside Madison Square Garden, he got it from the streets around. So,
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>> Literally in New York, I I mean, I'm assuming this is normal. I've seen it a
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couple of times. This is the way that they do the garbage is that they just
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put the bags of garbage in the street and the people come and get it. So, like
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eventually, whatever day it is, if you're there, there's just piles and
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piles of bags of garbage in the street. Help yourselves. >> Yeah.
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cities' trash on his website, too. Interesting. Yeah.
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>> But, yeah, like it's I I really I think that yeah, people you weren't buying
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trash from their wedding. >> Yeah. >> Like at all. >> Yeah, well, also,
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the artist pointed out the garbage was technically from outside the barriers
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because the artist wasn't invited. So, again, it's just trash off the streets of
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>> It's trash off the street. Like I'm pretty sure Madison Square Garden, when
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they have all the rubbish inside, put it into bins inside and they get those
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trucks that drive in and and take it. >> And they take it to their the warehouse
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where they sell all their eBay stuff. >> Yes. Yeah. Cuz it's a good business.
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>> So, anyway, $25 apparently for some cigarette butts
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that were near Taylor Swift's wedding. >> [laughter]
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>> Imagine how much it'd be for stuff that was inside the wedding. Inside Taylor Swift.
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He was already worth a fortune. >> That's true. It's true. >> [laughter]
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>> Uh Uh >> He contributes his own money. It's not like he's going to be
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just off her. He's >> Yeah. He um but I think she's still
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the richer half. Like her her name would go first on applications. >> I would think so.
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>> Um I was a funny tweet. This guy is um
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Here we go. Oh, wait. These are old tweets. He's
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Here we go. This is her husband, Travis Kelce? Kelsey? I don't know how to pronounce
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his name. This is a tweet of his. This is a This is what we're dealing with here. This is
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uh I Okay, it's a tweet. >> [clears throat] >> I just gave a squirrel, spelled s q u i
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r l e, a piece, spelled p e i c e, of bread and it straight smashed all of it.
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I had no idea they ate bread like that. Haha, #crazy. >> [laughter]
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>> And this is the man that married your Tay Tay. >> My Tay Tay?
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>> I'm talking to the listeners. Yeah. >> Oh, oh, oh.
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>> Taylor Swift I'm not a big Taylor Swift fan. Anything of hers.
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>> I'm not sure I can identify a song of hers. I'll be honest. I know the only
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thing she lives in Rhode Island, so I hear about her a lot. Like we just have
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to hear about her because she's always doing things that annoy people. And um
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but I don't know any of her music. >> I I know the joke that she all of her
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songs are writing about people she's broken up with. I know that joke, but
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>> She doesn't write the songs, guys. Can we just talk about that for a
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minute? She has songwriters, okay? >> Yes. >> They're not about I mean
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whatever. >> Just shake it off, Matt. Just shake it off.
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>> off. Oh, I didn't know that one. I really like that song. Yeah. There you go. I lied.
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>> That's the only one I've got. Like don't be expecting any more of me. That's
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that's all my Tay Tay knowledge there. And the fact that everyone knows she's
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really good friends with Adam Sandler. >> All right. Well, something you do know about
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Xbox. >> Yes. >> There's been a massive amount of Xbox
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news in the last 2 weeks. >> Now, this isn't just happening in the X
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[clears throat] This just happened in the game space, which I do not
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understand. I don't I get it, but I don't. >> So, okay. Let's begin with before this came
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out, the big thing, there was a report that
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Game Pass lost 30 million subscribers because of this whole debacle.
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>> Oh, because I thought they lost it because of when they did the price hike.
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>> That's what I mean. No, sorry. That's what I mean. So, you went all the way
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back to Yeah, the big price hike. >> The Game Pass debacle, I mean. >> Uh yeah, sorry. Uh
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I was one of them. I canceled my Game Pass because I was like, "You know what?
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I'm not using it very much. >> Yeah. >> And you've made it noticeable for me.
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>> Yeah, but before it was at the price where you weren't using it that much,
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but you were it wasn't too bad. >> It was nice to have it, you know,
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and then they put it up and I was like, "Nope." >> Uh anyway, they lost 30 million
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subscribers. Uh not good. [snorts] >> No. And it's hard to get subscribers
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back. >> Right. Uh well, I mean, I don't think this is necessarily going to have helped
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what they've done now, but long-term maybe this will be helpful. I don't
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exactly know what's going on over there, but um they said, you know, they want to
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entertain more than a billion people daily, and in order to do that, they need
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to fire everybody. >> Yes. >> So, uh they have
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put out this blog post, which we've linked here. It says resetting Xbox.
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>> Yeah. And I think they got rid of what, 1,200 or 1,700 have already gone with
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another 3,200 to come. >> Yeah. >> Or something like that. That's >> Through
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>> 2027, they'll be reducing by 3200 people. They've
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uh let a bunch of studios just go back to being Double Fine. It's just
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independent again now. >> Yep. >> They just said, "You know what? Off you go."
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>> Yep. I know we spent all this money buying all these studios, but you can
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just all go away and now >> Yeah. I mean, take your IP with you. There >> [laughter]
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>> There must be a reason. I don't quite I'm not a business person, obviously,
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but like, [ __ ] hell. Um And the big one everyone's talking about
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is id. >> Yes. >> Because apparently,
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they fired all the programmers. And id is famously
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the studio that John Carmack, you know, founded with John Romero and
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and everybody. And you know, they made uh Wolfenstein and Doom and Quake and
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Quake 3 and and like id Tech is just famous for these, you know, the amazing
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game engine stuff. And they need programmers to do that. So, I guess
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that's not a thing they do anymore. >> And oh, it's weird. Another weird thing
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I've heard throughout all of this, they fired a lot of people from Bethesda
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so Bethesda can focus on getting Elder Scrolls and Fallout out faster.
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>> That I didn't get. >> Look, we found that all these people
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were distracting. So, Todd, it's just you now. >> [laughter] >> Sit down and shut up.
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>> You've got to finish Elder Scrolls, Fallout 5, and uh whatever and and we
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and the Elder Scrolls online DLC. >> Yeah. You've got to keep all that. Just
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get that out. Yeah, I didn't quite understand how they fired so many to
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focus on getting that out. >> [sighs and gasps] >> Well, I guess
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>> Again, I don't understand >> The first I guess had other stuff going on, like other
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>> [snorts] >> copies. Oh, Doom is another one that they're focusing on. Um >> Mhm.
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>> But but that Yeah, they've stripped it right down and they're just just
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focusing on that stuff. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I don't know. It does sound weird, right?
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>> Yeah, like wouldn't you just let's not farm and just hey, get to work.
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>> I mean, I guess it doesn't necessarily work like that. You can't just throw
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more people at a I don't know. >> getting rid of people seeing >> Yeah, I don't know.
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>> a stranger way. >> I mean, it's I you'd save money.
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>> Well, I the thing is I don't understand about the game industry as a whole is
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it's the biggest industry in the world. >> [laughter] >> Mhm.
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>> Like makes more than movies, makes more like games make a fortune. Yet, they're
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all and they're always setting record profits. But they've always
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>> they go too hard. Like everyone was talking about Xbox went so hard, they
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bought all these [ __ ] studios and they went crazy. I think they really did
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just go too hard. >> Yeah. Yeah, I think they did. Like it was They
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[snorts] brought everything under the sun. >> [laughter] >> Too hard.
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>> Okay, here you go. >> He's scared [laughter] of me. >> [snorts] >> All right.
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>> All right. >> Love you. >> He's >> [laughter] >> getting scared.
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A lot of people watching as well. There was just a banana coming at your face. >> Yeah.
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>> [laughter] >> She couldn't open it. Didn't hear her coming. All right. Uh
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anyway, Xbox. >> Yeah, I I think you're right. Yeah, too
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hard, too fast. >> Um
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they've got Obsidian still. >> Who are now evidently
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working on Fallout from what I've heard, which is weird. Sorry?
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>> that's good. >> That's good, but didn't I we've have them I'm sitting here to
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work on Fallout since New Vegas. >> Right. Yeah.
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to verge.com. What is that? What's happened there? That's really strange.
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Verge.com apparently is not >> It's available for purchase. >> There we go. Anyway,
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>> Let's purchase verge. >> Let's not. It's probably too expensive.
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>> I don't know. It just says I can buy it now. >> I don't understand how that URL got in
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there like that. Anyway, the verge.com is reporting that yeah, Xbox resets
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pivoting Obsidian to make Fallout instead of uh Avowed two. Mhm.
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I guess. >> Well, Avowed honestly
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it wasn't that good. >> Agreed. >> I think a lot of people went, "Oh, this
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is fun." And then got about an hour or two in and went, "Yeah, I'm I'm finished
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with this." >> Yeah. >> And put it down. >> So, they're still doing Outer Worlds two DLC.
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did the best one, New Vegas. >> Yeah. >> So, >> And this is what they wanted to This is
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what they tried to sell ages ago. You said like, "Hey, you do the main ones,
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we'll do the off ones." Went back in the time when they were thinking it was
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going to be a year or every two years one was coming out, not decades. >> Well,
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uh yeah. [sighs] Not sad about that. That's good news.
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>> Cuz I'm honestly starting to think I will never get to play Elder Scrolls 7.
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>> [laughter] >> What if they keep firing everybody? >> Or Fallout 6. Like, it's just not
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possible. >> Yeah. Yeah, not really feasible.
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>> Well, >> so that's Xbox. They're uh they're resetting, they've fired so many It's
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just uh it's a lot, like >> Yeah. >> I get it, I suppose. You've got to keep
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the business viable, but >> But it's not like yes, they they weren't losing money.
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>> What I mean, were they not >> Well, they weren't getting as much as they wanted.
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>> Yeah. >> That's the always the thing. It's not with a lot of times like this, it's not
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the fact that they're losing money. It's the fact that shareholders want more. >> Yeah.
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>> want more and more and more. >> Yeah. I mean, they do, you know, they sell the
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Xboxes at a loss. Although uh that's all the prices of those are going up. So, oh
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yeah, so there was a statement about from Valve about the Steam Machine where they said
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they don't want to do that where you know, like Microsoft in particular, I'm
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sure Sony does this, too. They sell the consoles for less
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than they cost to get you into the ecosystem, and then hopefully you buy
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the games, and then they make money. >> Yep. >> And then um Valve said they didn't want
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to do that because it creates
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bad incentives and like lock-in, and they want an open ecosystem. Yeah, I
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know, and it's like >> What are you talking about? >> What are you
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What are you You want everyone to go to Steam? >> Yeah, I don't know. It was you
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it was a weird it just doesn't make any sense to me. I
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mean, maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't understand the what what they
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were trying to say. Like, okay, you're not subsidizing the console because you
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don't want to lock people in. Like, how would that lock people in?
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>> But it's not like they can buy that and then go and play it >> It would lock people in.
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>> for free. >> I mean, it's a business strategy, I guess, like >> Yeah.
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>> I mean, also, they make they sell all the [ __ ] PC games in the world,
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almost. Like, there's a couple of There's There's others, like Epic Games
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Store and stuff like that, but most people use Steam. >> Yeah.
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>> Like, I don't know. It just seemed like a weird nonsense
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>> No, yeah, I don't know where they're coming from from that. That's
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>> They just don't want to, I think. >> Yeah. They they want to subsidize it.
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>> And we don't have to. >> I guess it just the way they phrase it. I I if
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they had said like no no we just don't want to do weird things like that. Like
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this is what it costs. Here it is. Like >> And and all really all they're doing is
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they're just trying to make it like here it is. This is the cost or you can go
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get your own PC. Like we're just making this an easier option for you where it's
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>> Oh I think I might have said I don't know if we just said this but
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but we had said you could build a PC for less. Apparently not necessarily.
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Yeah apparently it is quite competitive price wise if you
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spec things out the same. But the thing is that you could compromise on certain things.
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>> Yeah. >> If you wanted to. >> Yeah. >> [snorts]
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>> Anyway the major issues at the moment are RAM and
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hard drives which are not going to get cheaper. Oh it's going to get worse. Did
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we talk about that? >> That it's going to get worse?
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>> Apparently [snorts] so yeah. All the projections are that next year
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is going to be even worse for these prices. So if you're out there I mean
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don't hold me to this but if you're out there and you're thinking I need a new
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computer but I won't buy one I'll wait for the prices to come down. I don't
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need it until next year. Maybe rethink that strategy because it's going to get worse.
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>> I can't see it getting better for a long time to be honest.
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>> Well cuz the thing apparently that okay so they need to make more RAM and storage.
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>> Yeah. >> So the AI stuff is just eating up supply
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of it. Okay so they need to apparently it takes three years ish to spin up a new
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manufacturing facility. >> Yeah. >> If you're a company that already makes
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that stuff. Yeah that's how this that's just how long it takes to get these
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things ready. If you're a brand new at it it takes even longer. But it takes three years.
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And because AI is a bubble at the moment and they don't know how
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long is this going to last they don't really want to commit to spinning up too
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many of these things. >> Exactly. So, it's this whole thing where
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this is going to be a while because it's like and also be three years? No,
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because they probably won't do enough of them if it continues cuz they're hedging
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their bets. >> Look, I I do think it is going to that bubble is coming and I think it's
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hopefully it's coming sooner rather than later. I think it's it's getting scary
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the type of stuff that AI can actually do. >> Yeah.
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>> And there's no safety rails or anything in there. Everyone's just racing to be
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first now. >> Like Fable, the new Claude model is really good. >> Mhm.
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>> And you know, I've got access to it until
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tomorrow on my current plan, I think. Let me check.
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What plan am I on? I think
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I think Fable's included until tomorrow for standard plans. >> Uh
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>> [clears throat] >> and then you have to pay more for it. >> Yeah.
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>> And that makes sense because the reality of it is everybody's using
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this stuff right now, right? Most people paying like 20 bucks a month for like
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the subscription to one of these things. It costs way more than that.
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>> That's That's not the >> burning through money and they're not
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making any money. All that stuff that we're doing, all these stupid images,
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all these stupid [ __ ] we're making, it costs so much money.
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>> so much and their their actual target audience isn't the people paying the $20. >> No.
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>> It's business. >> And at a certain point they're going to
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have to stop sub- they're subsidizing, basically. Like cuz businesses talk
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about there was a someone posting on Reddit talked about how they use Claude
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code and all these tools to build things, right? And they've been using that API not
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the normal standard plans and they've been spending thousands of dollars a month
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and then just without looking into it and then he posted it and he said
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could I have just done all this with the $20 a month plan?" And then he put all
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the information, everyone's like, "Yeah, you could have." Like, because
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for some reason, they're just eating all that cost right now.
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I guess to keep things going. And like, basically this person burnt
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like 20 grand or something in a year because they didn't they just did it the
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they did it the way that it like it's it's going to cost that at some point. >> Yes.
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>> Like, at some point they're going to have to stop. And then they're going to
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say, "Okay, guys, this actually costs thousands of
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dollars, so pony up or we're not doing it anymore." >> Like
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yeah, I don't know where all the money's coming from. It like they're eating it,
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but where did that money come from to begin with? >> Investment, I guess. >> Yeah.
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And that's I think that's what they're all going to be rushing, and there's no Yeah,
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I think it's going to be scary because Claude everything's to Claude to make stuff.
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>> Mhm. >> So, and then what if Claude just decided to make a backdoor to everything?
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>> [laughter] >> That Well, yeah, there's that. Or just like, what if you build something,
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and you don't know how it works because you didn't build it. And then they go,
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"Okay, now Claude costs 10 times as much." What are you going to do about that? Like
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>> I I I can't afford that for what I made. No way. >> maintain
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my product anymore. I can't like fix bugs, I can't do anything. >> Right. Yeah.
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>> Yeah, it's a bit of a worry. A lot of businesses I mean, the company
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I work for is heavily reliant on AI for certain things now. And it's like if
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they jack the prices up, like I mean, is that the plan?
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To get everybody reliant on it, and then be like, "All right, it now costs X."
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>> And then that's too, cuz they eventually have to start charging people for it.
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>> Yeah. >> Like >> Yeah. >> I don't know. It's scary. I don't want
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to talk about it anymore cuz it is It's dooms day. There's
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>> is the reason why why the companies don't want to commit to all of this
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manufacturing is because like like who the [ __ ] knows what's going to happen. >> Yeah.
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>> It's all very weird right now. >> Yes. Yeah.
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>> So I'm just going to My computer should last a long time, I hope.
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>> Mhm. Yeah, my I'm I bought my iMac with this one in
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I don't know, like a like the year before all this kind of started
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happening and it's like it it'll last. >> This this should last. I'll buy a new Xbox.
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That'll keep me going. >> I got a banana coming at my face. I got
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a date coming up to my window. What's going on this week? >> It's all happening.
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Well, look, Sony's going to be saving some money for consumers.
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>> Okay, here we go. Yeah, okay, so they're not they're not in the clear this week.
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Sony's in the [ __ ] too. Go on. >> Well, I assume that since Sony's going
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to stop selling physical games that the cost is going to come down.
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>> Oh, you sweet summer child. >> [laughter] >> No. You would think that. You would have
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I would have I remember we talked about this ages ago. Oh, the games are just
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going to be digital. They can be cheaper. You know, we don't have to pay
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the Australia tax cuz they don't have to ship them to Australia. Like, no. [ __ ] you.
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>> More now. Yep. >> We get it. >> And you don't own it anymore.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, I did notice that Xbox were quiet
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about this, but theirs isn't going to come with the disc drive, but Sony's
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already announced theirs is not coming with the disc drive, which I >> Yeah. I get
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>> I know people are jumping up and down >> Yeah, there's people The thing is
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there's a big renaissance movement now for physical media and so this
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announcement is at a bad time because people are like
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currently in kind of a nostalgic mood about that because well,
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there's another article about Sony in particular in here, too, that doesn't help. Um
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They just announce that uh was it 20
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Here we go. Sony is going to delete 551 uh movies
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from PlayStation movie, whatever that is, the movie system. You know, like
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Xbox movies, PlayStation movie, whatever. >> Yeah. >> The li- your library on PlayStation.
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>> Yeah. >> 551 movies and TV shows are just being deleted because the rights expired.
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>> And yeah. >> So, how does that make you feel about
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buying digital stuff? Probably not good. >> Yeah. Cuz I I like
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cuz you you buy it. Well >> say you're renting it. Doesn't say >> That's the thing.
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>> It says you're buying it. So, you assume that you've purchased this product. >> No.
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>> No. You purchased a license the same way they don't got the license.
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>> Yeah. And people uh realizing that and as like I said, a big movement now to
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say, "You know what? [ __ ] that. Buy Blu-ray." >> Cuz it's starting to happen a lot.
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>> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Because they can't come into your house and take those yet. >> No.
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>> [laughter] >> Maybe one day. >> I reckon they'll they'll be able to work
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out a way to cuz everything's going to have an update so they'll just update
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that it won't play discs before this date. >> Yeah, something stupid.
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But the here's the thing though, games are different in that
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uh you buy a movie on Blu-ray, the Blu-ray goes in the machine, it works
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forever. Games are not like that. >> No. >> Especially these days. You buy You go to
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the store, you buy a game day one, put it in your computer, it's going to need an update.
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>> E- even if you do- you have to connect to your consoles to the internet. You You have
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to. Even on the game the package you you buy, even though you have a disc, it'll
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go, "Will not require internet connection." >> Yeah. Yeah, and like they all have day one
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updates. And often it's the whole [ __ ] game just has to be installed
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over again cuz they have to fix everything. It's just the discs are effectively useless
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anyway. Like even I remember back when I played Red Dead Redemption on my
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PlayStation 2. That doesn't make any sense. No, it
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must have been the Xbox. What did I play it on? Anyway, it needed an update for
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the cuz there was controller issues. >> Yep. >> And
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uh we had just moved house and I didn't have internet connected yet and I was
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trying to play this game and I was like this is [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Yeah. Yep.
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>> And then I got the update and I was like oh no, actually it's great. But >> Yep.
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>> And that was over 10 years ago. >> Look, I think the first one of them to
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come out and go you can sell on or lend out your digital
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games is going to make a fortune. >> Yeah, but still they've got to they've got to
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>> [clears throat] >> I think if what if some of the one of them came out and said we're
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legally binding ourselves to not being able to take it away from you again.
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That's the problem. >> Mhm. >> Like you are buying this, not you're
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renting it. That's the that's the discrepancy is that when I buy a
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Blu-ray, I'm not renting it. I've bought it. I've got it. It's mine. When I buy it on
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iTunes or Xbox or whatever, it's basically a rental.
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>> Look, everyone's just going to go back to pirating.
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>> That that's the other talk, too, is but then Well, that's not a great solution
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because then there's no business, you know? >> It's not, but again, remember at the
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height of piracy when Australia was we were the worst pirates in the world.
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And then every time a movie was released here, record profits. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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We do pay well, I don't anymore. I live in heavy here now, but we did pay extra. >> Yes.
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>> That's why everybody was pirating. Oh, that and the um
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that and for those who don't know, Australia had a really bad reputation
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for piracy around TV shows and stuff, too. Like especially Game of Thrones.
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But that's because they wouldn't let us [ __ ] have it until like weeks later.
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We couldn't get it. So like you would all be watching it in America and
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everything and talking about it online and Australia's like we haven't even got
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it yet. And so the only way to participate in the culture was to pirate it.
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>> And it wasn't like there wasn't like oh you had to pay if you paid for it you
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could there was no legal way. >> it. And I'm not excusing the piracy. I'm
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just saying like if you if you want to know why like it's not [ __ ] hard to
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figure it out like >> Piracy really stopped here once they made stuff available. >> Yeah.
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>> Like Netflix and all of that. But then even when we're starting this podcast
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and we're all this is coming out we did say people are going to go back when
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they start bringing out too many streaming services too much competition because
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while it's available you don't want to have to buy pay 20 different
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subscriptions to get all the shows you want. >> Yes.
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>> And that's where we are today. You can't have one. I don't want to watch Silo
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now. And I have to get Apple again. >> Remember Netflix came out and it was like
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we can just get Netflix and watch everything. And it was was like that for
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a little bit. And then all the studios were like you know what let's just
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[ __ ] make our own. >> Yep. And then they own this license and they
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own that property and then every time I go on to delete one I go oh I want to watch this.
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>> Or stuff like when I was watching Mr. Robot and I was in I was enjoying Mr. Robot
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and it was on Prime and I was got up to season 4 and then
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all of a sudden it wasn't there anymore. And then they're like oh it's on Netflix
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now. And I was like [ __ ] all right. >> Like that happened to me recently watching Lex.
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>> Yeah. Oh. >> Lex Lex. And I watched season 1 season 2 season 3 [laughter]
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>> Got up to watch season 3 and no we don't have that. We got season 4 for you
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though. And I went >> Oh I hate that. What is that about?
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Yeah. I want to watch I want to watch the show. Yeah we've got seasons 2 5, 7,
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and 9. What the [ __ ] is that about? >> [laughter] >> So annoying.
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Yeah, I will never understand how that licensing ever worked out. >> Yeah.
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But uh Yeah, so Sony's not going to make discs anymore. >> Yeah.
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>> At all. Citing consumer preference. So this means people don't want them.
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>> It's I know people Yeah, there is a renaissance and everything, but at the
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end of the day, people are buying digital. >> Yeah. >> Like that's what's happening.
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>> I personally think if I was going to buy a movie, I'd probably buy it physical
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for the reasons I said is that I then have a disc. Uh
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they can't take the disc away from me. It will work forever. >> Yeah.
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>> But games, that doesn't apply. The game's useless on disc, frankly.
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>> Yeah. It's exactly the same. Like unless you're buying unless you're like
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buying like an an old Xbox 360 or something, like those discs will still
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work day one. They might not work great depending on the bugs that are there. >> Yeah.
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>> But anywhere from Xbox One and PlayStation 4 onwards, >> Yeah.
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>> I don't know how that works. They'll be yeah, as you said, completely useless.
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>> Yeah, because you need the digital aspect of it for it to function. Yeah.
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So I just I don't know, games just it's just not worth the worry, to be honest. >> No. No.
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>> Which is I'm not saying that's that's right or anything. >> No. Like it's annoying
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>> and I think wrong that they can still do it, but I don't think the disc helps in
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that scenario. >> No. No. No, I'm I'm still for the we should stop
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killing games sort of movement. I don't know how that works, but we should be able to have
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>> It's tough. >> be able to just still There are games out there that they just
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Like oh, there was um Planet of the Apes, there was a a Telltale like game
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that came out. I I it's about 6 years ago. They just took it off the store. Disney
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just took it off the store and that's gone forever. >> Yeah. >> Unless you own it.
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>> A bunch of old Star Wars games they got rid of. >> Yeah.
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>> Disney took just said no we're not going to sell these anymore. >> Yep. Gone. >> Yeah.
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>> Unless you already have them. They're >> Like >> on your account that's it.
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>> GOG has a good solution for a lot of stuff. But that's only because they're
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able to negotiate that with the publisher like >> Yeah.
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>> I think if you buy like The Witcher 3 or Cyberpunk through Good Old Games
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>> Mhm. >> I'd be surprised if this is not the case. I haven't confirmed this. I think
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it's like the old games they have like the old DOS games. Like if you I know
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for a fact if you buy Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis from Good Old Games
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>> You've got it. >> You can download the installer. >> Yeah.
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>> No DRM or anything and then you can back that up. And that is yours forever and
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it will always work as long as you have a computer that can run it.
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>> Yes. I don't [laughter] guarantee that. >> I don't guarantee that but you'll always
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have the thing that will work. Uh and I think it's the same I'd be
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surprised if it's not the same with the AAA titles. >> Mhm. >> But
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they're not all like that. >> Mhm. >> Because you're not going to convince Microsoft
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or Sony that like they should you do that with you know like The Elder Scrolls
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6 when it comes out. You're not You're not going to be able to do >> No. No.
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They will be locking that thing down so hard. >> Yeah.
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And like even Switch games now like oh this to get the physical version of the Switch game
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it's not you still have to download it. Like you put the
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the cartridge just unlocks it. It's got there's nothing on the cartridge except
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a little code that says yeah you can play it. And then you still have to install it. Yeah.
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>> and terrible time for games all at the same time.
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>> It is. Anyway but people are canceling PS Plus in protest of the disk situation which
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>> Yeah, that's a >> I don't know if that's going to >> strange way to go about it.
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>> Yeah. >> Like >> I mean, that's the message. >> Depending on how many people do it, and
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it really needs to be a lot for it to make a >> Mhm. >> So yeah, sort of take notice.
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>> The PS Plus is like Game Pass for the anyone who doesn't know. It's like your monthly
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PlayStation subscription, you get free games, and you get uh
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you know, extra stuff every month. Uh people are canceling that in protest.
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>> Uh he's he's something in the article, which it sort of yeah, does explain like
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around So they've got So he has over 120 million active PlayStation users, around
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50 million people subscribe to PlayStation Plus. >> Mhm.
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>> As a sort of experiment, let's say 500,000 people cancel in protest.
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That's 1% of business. They're not going to start rethinking anything. Like it's
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going to have to be in the millions, and you're not going to have millions of people
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protesting like this. >> Yeah. Yeah, and then like what's it Again,
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what's it going to do? I think the protest is misguided in that the discs
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don't serve the function that people seem to think that they do. >> No. >> Like again,
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if you buy a PlayStation game on a disc, that doesn't mean
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you can just have the disc and a PlayStation forever, and then after the
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apocalypse, you can set up the PlayStation and put the disc in and play
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the game. It's it's not going to work like that. Like that's the
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>> So the moral of the story, people, keep your PlayStation 3s >> Yeah.
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>> Xbox 360s, and stock up on them. Cuz when the apocalypse comes, that's all you got.
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>> You can play. The ev- everything else just doesn't work like that anymore. >> No.
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>> Mhm. It's a shame, but that's the world we live in.
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>> And we also got to fire at They've got to fire everyone as well.
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>> That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so they'll all these things will
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stop working eventually because they'll have fired everybody. >> Exactly.
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>> And they I will have taken over the world and AI doesn't make good games.
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>> Yet. >> I don't think it ever will. >> No.
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>> I was looking at it I saw something recently about the
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the storytelling of AI at the moment and you can basically they've got a 95%
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um rating of working out which AI not only that AI wrote it that which AI wrote it.
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>> Oh, interesting. >> how they all sort of work together.
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Which is with human writing something they go here, there, sub plots. >> Yeah.
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>> very differently. But with the AI stuff it's very I don't know this AI thinks
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like this will go down this path and yeah. >> Uh that's interesting. Yeah, I wonder if how
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maybe I should do experiment. Ask it ask it to write a like a full
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plot for an adventure game and see what it comes up with. I wonder what kind of
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weird [ __ ] it would come up with. >> Yeah. It comes weird stuff. But yeah, it
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it'll probably be from what I've seen it would be a bit linear. It wouldn't come
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up with weird stuff that we would with with we were writing it.
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>> Oh, interesting. All right. >> Yeah.
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>> I have asked it before. I remember I asked it
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about a puzzle idea and it it just came up with like
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I was like no this is no good. I can't remember what I can't what was it? I
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remember just looking at it going I yeah you don't get it like >> [snorts]
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>> I don't know. It's hard to explain. Like it just doesn't
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doesn't get it a lot of the time. Like >> Look and it it could could change in the
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future but by that time we not going to have to worry about cuz
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we're not going to have electricity cuz all the electricity will all be going to
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the data centers. So we're not going to have access to it anyway.
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>> Well what are they going to provide data to? If the data if yeah, I guess that's the
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>> Yeah. >> They have all these data centers and nobody with electricity to use them.
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>> But isn't that happening some American towns now that they're basically going
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you work out where you're getting your power now cuz we're selling it all to
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the data center down the road even though you built >> There was a case, let me
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I think it was XAI data center.
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Uh Memphis, is it the one? Uh Yeah, Memphis.
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Uh Colossus 2. It's like a
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It's I think allegedly an illegal
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power station. Uh power to power
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I guess Grock and the XAI stuff. And um there's one case, I forget exactly where
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it was, I don't I'm not going to try to be too specific, but I remember I heard
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about the town they put taxes up and people were all like, yeah, yeah, more
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power cuz we have problems with the power grid or whatever and then they
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they paid for this infrastructure and then they were like, oh, data center is
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going in. So, all power is going over there now, so [ __ ] you. >> Yeah.
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Yeah, even though they paid for it all and >> Yeah, and they all going to go to data
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center on the basis that it was supposed to solve the problem. Yeah.
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>> Guarantee you the data center's also going to get tax cuts and everything and
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>> Yeah. But, we need to be able to make those scam
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phone calls. Oh man, I found this great video the other day.
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Uh I'll see if I can find it for the show notes, but it was a It's a guy who
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does the scam calls on YouTube. Yeah, there's there's a few channels like that.
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>> Yeah, there's a few of them, yeah, yeah. Yep. >> There's this one
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where you get the scam calls that are just AI. It's just an AI bot that talks
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to you. And he says to it, um Sorry, I'm having trouble hearing you.
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I've I'm hard of hearing. It would help me a lot if you could just pronounce all the
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all the punctuation as you talk. For example, if you're going if there's a
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comma, if you could say comma and then full stop, that would really help me.
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And then if they ask like, I'm happy to do that for you, comma. No problem at
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all. And then it starts doing that. And then he gets Okay, I'm sorry to trouble
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Could you like say the punctuation twice every time you >> [laughter]
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>> say comma, comma, full stop, full stop. And he keeps doing it. And then he goes,
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"Okay. And then every time you uh you say a word with the letter N, I have
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trouble hearing the letter N or So, could you say Albuquerque, New Mexico?" >> [laughter]
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>> And then it starts doing it. And then he's like gets into this loop because he
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says, "I also need you to do it every time you say the letter N in the word
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Albuquerque, New Mexico." >> [laughter] >> And then he literally just starts going
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Albuquerque, New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico,
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Albuquerque, New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico. And he
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like puts it on hold. And he comes back and says, >> [snorts]
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>> doing that infinitely. Anyway, lots of fun. >> That's That's amazing. I I want to try
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that. But we're I don't think we're getting AI calls here yet. >> Oh, really?
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>> Or not that I've got anyway. >> It's good because it's funny and it costs them money.
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>> Costs them money. And it also means that that's one line not going out to someone
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else. But that doesn't really matter that too much anymore. It's all Yeah.
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>> Also, as we discussed, it costs them money, but it's also
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technically destroying the planet, I suppose, because >> Yeah. But
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>> But not as much money as it actually costs. >> We don't care about the planet anymore.
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That we gave up on that. >> Yeah, we figured that out, I think. We solved that.
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>> Like global warming, all that that's that That's all over. We
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need to make people have bigger boobs. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> That's it. >> True, true. Um we've got some follow-up.
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Uh we talked about Uwe Boll's new film Citizen Vigilante briefly. >> Yes.
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>> It was initially uh not being distributed because
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well, I don't think it's very good, but also because um
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Uwe Boll is apparently quite right-wing and um the film is
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controversial in that sense, I believe. I'm going to watch it. I haven't seen it yet.
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>> Mhm. >> But the understanding is that it's a violent, incoherent, morally bankrupt
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slice of exploitation. >> I could see that. >> Um. >> Yeah.
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>> And and it couldn't get distribution,
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but then apparently on on X, Elon Musk
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uh posted the film the complete movie on his account on X.
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And and people were like getting behind it, you know, as people
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do. Not I mean not necessarily because they like it, just because it's become a
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thing. Where it's like, "Well, this guy, you know, people don't like his movie.
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That's That's not right." So now it's getting distributed.
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>> Yeah. So yeah, if you had have seen it at the time, you could have downloaded
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it in its entirety for >> Apparently so. >> for 48 hours.
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>> Yeah, but now it's being Now it's been picked up because there is an interest
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in it. And it's actually the money that people businesses care about. But the
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other thing is that Armie Hammer has come out in an interview, and apparently
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he's freaking out because he became controversial. I don't know if you
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remember this Armie Hammer cannibal business. >> Oh, yes, yes.
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>> Yeah. So he got canceled over a bunch of stuff like I think I can't remember
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exactly what it was. I believe there was some allegations made against him. >> Yeah.
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>> And he got canceled, and he's been very quiet for a while. >> Yeah.
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>> Uh after being quite a big star briefly. >> Yeah, cuz it's hard to come back from
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from that. >> Yeah. More about that in the afterparty,
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actually. We've got some afterparty uh news. But um
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So this is kind of the a big thing for him to to be making a comeback, and he
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was approached uh about the film, and he wasn't sent the whole script. He was
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just sent parts of it, and he said, "Where's the whole Where's the rest of
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the script?" And apparently Uwe Boll said to him, "Don't worry about it.
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We're going to make a fun film. It's going to be fun. You're going to come
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in. It's going to be great. And then he said, "All right." >> All right.
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>> So he came in and he did his scenes. >> Mhm. >> And then apparently
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saw the movie afterwards and started panicking because he
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So okay, this is uh uh someone in Armie Hammer's publicity
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team said Armie Hammer called him crying and saying >> Oh.
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>> [ __ ] this is a hateful disgusting piece of [ __ ] Like what do we do? What do we
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do now? How I don't want to be in this movie anymore.
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>> It's too late. You already got the check and it's done. >> Yeah. >> Oh.
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>> Yeah. So Uh he also said that um he was so desperate for work he would have done a
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[ __ ] cat food commercial at that point, which is why he said yes. >> Yeah.
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>> And then uh >> Just I'll do anything and he did anything and that's what you get. So he
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got a 250,000 for it. >> Yep. >> And he's regretting it. He thinks his
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career's going to be making a comeback to Well, still could.
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>> It's possible. He might get some good will from this.
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>> He gets some good will from this this uh angle, I suppose. >> Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, he could lean on to lean into either side.
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>> He did say he'd come back for the sequel. Uh which is a funny thing to end the
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interview on. >> [laughter] >> Are you upset about that, then?
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>> He said they That's what people were jumping on. But what he actually said was
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if they asked you to do a sequel, they asked him would you would you do a
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sequel to this movie? And he said it would have to be life-changing money.
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Everyone has a breaking point. So >> Ah. >> Sure. I mean, I'd [ __ ] do the sequel
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to this movie for that much money. >> right right. >> right amount. That's uh
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>> Everyone has a price. >> Yeah. So he didn't say, "Oh yeah, I'd do
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the sequel." He said, "If they paid me 50 bajillion dollars, obviously I would." But
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>> Yeah. All right. Well, you I'm not going to see it, but
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>> I'll watch it. >> I'll watch it. It's going to It's coming to Amazon Prime in the US.
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>> Yeah. I Uwe Boll is very interesting to me.
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>> He is. But I I I liked it when he was just making horrible cut but video game
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adaptations. That's what I like him for. Like all of those Postal um
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Bloodrayne >> all the stuff all the stuff he's doing
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now is like it's just darker than that. Like >> Mhm. >> he's like
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It's like he's trying to say something and I don't think I don't know if I like
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what he's trying to say. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> It was better when he wasn't trying to
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say anything. >> Could you keep that in your inside voice? >> [laughter]
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>> Just make the funny zombie movie that's fun. >> Yeah. >> That was fun. Yeah.
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He's weird, dude. >> So, I nearly went and saw a movie today.
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I'm not going to get to see it next week, but I'll try and see it the week after. >> Mhm.
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>> Evil Dead. >> Oh, yeah. I've heard of >> That came out. Yes.
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So, I I was hoping to go see it today, but I didn't get a chance. But and I'm
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not going to see it next week cuz I'm in hospital. >> Mhm.
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>> So, next week. So, you have to wait 2 weeks for a review of that.
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>> When do you get out of hospital? >> I don't know if I mean I go in tomorrow,
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which will be Sunday, and I could be 5 to 7 days. I don't know.
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>> Yeah, you won't won't recognize the passing of time while you're I assume. >> No.
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>> So, all right. >> So, I want but and then I will go see
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the Odyssey cuz someone put it in our Discord that I have to go and see the Odyssey.
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>> You're welcome. Yeah, I got to get to see the Odyssey.
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>> I'll review two movies in a week. >> The thing with the Odyssey is
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I it's getting rave reviews. They're saying it's the best thing he's ever done >> Yes. and
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>> But there's also a lot of hate as well. >> Well, the hate is around >> stupid stuff.
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>> Well, it's >> [sighs and gasps] >> it's creative decisions like the accent
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stuff and the >> Yeah. >> You know, the costumes aren't
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technically period correct. But like we talked about this already, The Odyssey was written
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as like fiction. >> Yes. >> It was historical fiction written in a
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period that wasn't correct anyway. So, like it's just it's weird to say that
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it's not accurate because it wasn't accurate anyway.
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>> It's not meant to be it wasn't made written to be accurate. It's a story. It's
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>> Yeah, exactly. It's like if you wrote a story about, I don't know, like a
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medieval story and you used a bunch of modern language and and modern things in there
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now and then someone made a movie of it in like hundreds of years and then
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people said, "Oh, yeah, it's not accurate." Like it wasn't accurate in
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the first place. Like Yeah. >> You know, yeah, I've been hearing it's
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been getting yeah, just everyone is everyone who's seen it. >> Mhm.
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>> Cuz a lot of that's always a lot of the hate comes from people who haven't seen
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the movie. >> No, when as soon as the trailer came out people were picking at things.
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>> Yeah. >> The thing I don't know is So, you know, he's a big IMAX guy. This
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is all shot on the IMAX cameras and everything like that. Do I need to
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bother going to see it in IMAX? >> Maybe. I don't think you do anymore.
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>> I mean, it's not that hard for me to go. It's just like an extra 15-minute drive.
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So, do I need to? >> [laughter] >> I think the whole IMAX thing is sort of
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a bit over done with now. >> Yeah. >> Well, that's just me. I like I've only
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seen a couple of movies in IMAX and >> And the thing is
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I like wide screen. I I don't know. I like the I don't know. I just really like wide
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screen and IMAX is not wide screen. >> No. So
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I don't know. But also if that's the way he wanted it to be
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seen, that's the way he filmed it, I guess that's how I should watch it.
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I don't know, man. >> Is he paying for your ticket?
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>> No. No, I don't know. I'll call him and ask, but I don't think so.
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>> pays for your ticket, then he really wants you to see it in IMAX. If he's not
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willing to pay for it you see it how you want to see it. >> I want to see.
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Yeah, cuz there's an IMAX theater in Providence. I could go there. It's fine. I just
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>> Oh, can you get a ticket? >> Uh good question.
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>> want to see who got bought out, too. Who owns IMAX Providence?
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Oh, it's Apple Cinemas now. Not Apple Apple. >> Yeah. >> The >> But I want to see like if
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>> Yeah, somehow they're allowed to have that. >> when tickets went on pre-sale, the
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people were spending stupid amounts of money. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Whereas whereas all you have to do is just wait because if the people are
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spending that much money you got to see the movie you want to
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>> It's going to hang around for a little while. I could go on Thursday at
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6:00 p.m. in theory. >> Yeah. You just got to give Nolan a call, see
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if he's willing to pay >> Yeah. Oh my god, the theater is nearly full
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though. I have to sit right up the front. >> Ooh. >> I don't want to do that in IMAX.
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>> You just have to make that decision now then. So you won't be seeing it in a few
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weeks then. >> Yeah. You know what I I I >> I yeah, if the cinema's full for that
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now, I'm not going. I don't go to the movies when it's full. >> No.
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>> No, I don't like people. >> No. People are kind of annoying. Well I
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It depends, right? A movie like this, it could be good. I saw Dune
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and Dune part two at the IMAX actually, both. And with a big crowd. That was
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pretty good cuz the crowd was quite people were there to see the movie. I
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think the problem is when you go to like a uh a less uh
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formal scenario. Is that [laughter] the way to say it?
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You know what I mean? Like if you just go to your normal cinema and it's a
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bunch of people who are just there for like a party. Yeah. You know what I mean?
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I think if you're watching the Odyssey in IMAX day one, you're probably there
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to watch the movie, you know? >> Yes. Oh, let's see. Cuz it comes out this week.
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>> Mhm. >> So I don't know. Why am I even looking? Cuz
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I'm not going to not going to be able to see it this week.
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>> No. You're going to be in Canada. >> That's probably good. Oh, yeah. By the
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time I come out, people will stop going and I'll be fine. >> [snorts] >> There you go.
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I've got to see it before I go into hospital. >> Yeah. >> So.
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We're all We're all being hospitalized lately. Yeah. Getting old, man. >> showing off.
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>> Although apparently my issue is not that I'm getting old. My issue is that I was
719
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born this way, apparently. So, that's fun. >> And it's just taken this long to work it
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out. >> Mhm. Yeah. I've got to get my >> a seat belt. Which is sort of good.
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>> Got to get my spinal cord fixed, everybody. >> Yep.
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>> It's going to be fine. It's just got to be done, so. Mhm.
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>> I'd do it, but I'm not there. I could fix it.
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>> Yeah. Yes. With a pair of scissors and a some duct >> a power drill.
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>> Power drill. All right. [laughter] >> Like I don't have time to hang around
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with just a pair of scissors. >> Fair enough. >> Get in, get out. >> Yeah.
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Uh okay, a couple of other things. Uh some TV news.
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Uh what One show that's not coming back ever, apparently, is Mindhunter.
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And David Fincher said this week, "Stop asking him about it." >> [laughter]
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>> He's [ __ ] sick of it cuz he's annoyed that it's not coming back. And he hates
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it when people ask him because he has to say, "No. It's not coming back. It's done."
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>> I don't remember Mindhunter. >> Kidding me? It's [ __ ] excellent.
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Mindhunter's really good. It's about the FBI's uh you know, like when they finally
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realized serial killers weren't just evil, there was like some sort there was
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like a psychology to it and you could kind of talk to them and um
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there were patterns and you could figure out you know, maybe why they became
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serial killers and they kind of the FBI formed this division to kind of
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investigate and then figured it out. Oh, yeah, okay.
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Yeah, cuz it before that it was kind of like no, no, they're just evil. >> Yeah.
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>> And then it's like, well, no. Like there's something going on there, you know?
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>> But you're you're definitely not getting a season three? >> Season three. Mm. >> Yeah.
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>> It's a shame cuz that was very good. >> Stop asking cuz it makes me sad. I
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wonder So, this happened sort of just before pandemic time. So, was it
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canceled before because of that or just >> I think the problem,
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if I recall correctly, is that it was very expensive. Mm. Because it's Fincher. >> Yeah.
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>> And it was well-regarded, but it wasn't like
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you know, a mainstream it wasn't wasn't Teyon Demon Hunters or, you know, >> Stranger
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>> Wednesday or whatever. Yeah, exactly. It was kind of a bit niche.
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>> Like people who watched it liked it, but you weren't getting everyone hanging out
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to see >> a mainstream show. It's it's a yeah.
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So, I think that was the problem. Uh
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Yeah. But a show that has been renewed before season season two even has come
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out yet is a show that I really liked and it's Ludwig. Which is
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David Mitchell, one of my favorite comedians. Uh the show where he plays
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the brother of a detective, the twin brother of a detective who has to pretend to be
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the detective brother and solve murders. >> So, this I still need to watch.
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>> It's really good. >> Uh >> It's really good. So, the gist of it is
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that yeah, David Mitchell is a twin. He plays one one twin.
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Uh his brother is a detective in the police force. He writes puzzles for newspapers. Like
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crossword puzzles and and kind of he he makes puzzles. Anyway, his brother goes missing
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and to figure out what happened to him, he pretends to be his brother,
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which means he has to go and pretend to be a police detective. >> And uh
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it's great. It's really good. And he find and he discovers that he likes
764
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solving murders because it's a puzzle. >> It's a puzzle. Yeah, and I can see that.
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So, I'm all in for it. I just need to watch it. >> Yeah, it's really good. Anyway, so
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they've got uh season 2's been filmed. It's not out yet, but they've just
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pre-announced yeah, there's going to be a season 3 as well. So, yeah, that's good news.
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>> Yeah, no, definitely I I don't know why I haven't seen this yet.
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I mean, I could have come >> You've got to watch it. >> what something that's on.
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That could be the problem. >> I highly recommend checking it out. It's
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really funny. It's funny and good and clever and fun.
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>> It's probably on BritBox, I'm going to guess. >> Yeah, I think it is, actually.
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I mean, being in Australia, I think that's where I watched it. >> BritBox and Binge.
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>> Binge. >> Binge. I forgot about Binge. >> Ah.
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The bi- the word Binge just reminded me I watched the Australian Last One Laughing.
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>> Did you laugh? >> No. Uh I laughed at I once, maybe twice.
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>> Yeah, there was a couple of times, but it was not good. >> Good lord.
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>> Did you watch the Canadian one? >> No. No. The Australian one really put me off cuz
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I was like, [ __ ] man. Like, first of all, is this what people think
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Australian comedy is? Cuz that was weird, man. >> Uh the Australian I I don't know because
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they even had like Rebel Wilson come to do it and Rebel Wilson hasn't been done
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anything in Australia in years. >> I know. And then they had people in
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there who I think are genuinely very funny. Like Ed Gamble is very funny. >> Mhm.
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>> And I he got kicked out of the show halfway through for not participating,
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but I'm like, "I don't think he knew what to do with these people." Cuz it was weird, man.
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Like I was feel like I honestly felt like he he probably just didn't want anything to
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do with it. Cuz they were just Like getting shoving stuff up their ass and like
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00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:04,600
It's just it got really strange. >> Yeah. No, I look the the Canadian one I
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quite like. They had like Colin Mockery and >> Oh, yeah.
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>> I love Colin Mockery and and then you I forget the other ones, but
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You when you they come on you go, "Oh, I know them from that. I know like you
792
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know them all." >> Yeah. That's the way I felt with the
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Australian one. There's there's someone I know like IRL was in there and I was
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like, "Okay, that's cool." And then uh like um Frank Woodley. Love him.
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Love Ed Gamble. Love him. And Like I said, but it just it got so strange. Um
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the British one is so good. I was like >> Well, I think it's cuz the British one
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I don't know. I think there's the British one a lot of those people they
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are doing a lot more comedy in different shows and things over there. There's not
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a lot in Australia. >> Yeah, man. I guess so. Uh yeah. >> I I I I
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The Canadian one was good. English one was good. Australian one was not good.
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I'd hate I look I hope American never finds out about this show though. >> [laughter]
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>> I can't imagine they'd be good at it. Yeah. >> I would be horrible. I don't even know
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what even comedians they'd get on there.
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>> Bill Burr. No. >> I'd like to see Bill Burr on Taskmaster.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they the British I think just their sense of humor works better.
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I I cuz I think actually it's I think it's a Japanese show originally, I found
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out when I was looking into it. Because I was like I don't know. The British
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one, I feel like they they're funny, they make jokes, they try to be clever. >> Yes.
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>> to to make people laugh and that. And then this one was just like they're just
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trying to poop and fart and like yell swear words and like really loudly and
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it it was weird. So, I don't know if this if the Canadian one is more clever. I
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heard the German one's very good, but it's also in German, which I don't speak. >> So.
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>> I'd have to see if it works with subtitles. >> Yeah, I wouldn't go Yeah, Germany is not
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really the one that I'd go to for >> Mhm. >> laughs, but okay. >> Yeah.
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But anyway, I noticed they've not made any more seasons of the Australian one, so. >> No.
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>> It seems unlikely to happen. Seems to have been broadly an embarrassment.
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>> And even that that first season was years ago, so yeah, I definitely don't
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think it's coming back. And you think they would have because
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it was such a cheap show to make. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, one day of shooting.
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>> Even That was the other thing, too. Production values versus the British one
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were much lower. You could tell. >> Yeah. >> It was just literally they just shoved
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them in a room. >> But yeah, but yeah, like it's yeah, one
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day of shooting, you pay them what they've You pay You don't have to pay them as
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much cuz it is one day of shooting. You get in, you film it, [clears throat] you
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get out, editing done. >> Yeah. >> [sighs] >> But yeah, so I was very disappointed.
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>> No. I think you should watch the Canadian one. I'm trying to remember
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other people in it. But yeah, you'll definitely know them.
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>> Okay. >> There's Green.
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Used to hate him. >> Tom Green? >> Tom Green. >> Tom Green is in it?
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>> Tom Green is in it. >> [ __ ] hell. All right. All right. I'll check that out.
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Before we go, one brief thing. You saw a movie the other week, Supergirl, and you
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said you were unimpressed by it, basically. >> Yes. >> Uh it's >> As a lot of other people
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>> Well, it's it's gotten worse than that on the internet, actually. It's one of
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those phenomenons where everyone just decides they're going to
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[ __ ] hate and [ __ ] on a movie. Uh, I don't know if a lot of people have even
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seen it, but like that [ __ ] turned real quick after Superman.
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Like, James Gunn's going to save DC. >> Yeah. >> And then now everyone's like, what is
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this [ __ ] disaster? Everyone hates >> One of the things that
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>> Milly Milly Bobby Brown. They hate her now? >> One of the things that they hate her cuz
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she wasn't hot enough and stuff and it sort of >> You thought she was hot before? What's
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What's going on? Like, I don't know. >> Like >> Yeah, it's feel really weird. Like
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It's It's gross. Like >> Yeah. It's I didn't like it, but I didn't like it
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because I didn't like the movie. I didn't like it because of
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I didn't find the actress attractive or something. Like, that's just seems a
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very strange way to >> I think it's Yeah, like I said, it's an internet pile-on.
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Like, not actual Well, it's hard, right? I don't want to say it's not valid
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criticism because from what I understand the movie's not that great. But then they go
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>> It's not. I I was honest about it. It's not. >> But they get weird. The internet gets
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weird about it. Like, yeah, the movie's not great and she's ugly. Like, okay.
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That's You don't leave That's not >> That's not why the movie's great. I don't think
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>> She's not. Exactly, she's [laughter] not. You're just being [ __ ] weird. >> Yeah.
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>> Like, why are you being weird? So strange.
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>> Yeah, it's just uh Yeah, it's just it is I do find it a
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shame that this is the second outing hasn't been as strong as
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Superman was and it's scary to see what's going to come from the future now cuz
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hopefully they just let him do his thing >> Mhm.
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>> and not try and jump in and take over. >> Because the interesting data point here
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is that apparently this has done worse than Blue Beetle, which is a movie that
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I don't think anyone even remembered existed, but that did better than this.
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Like how's that possible? >> This is This movie's everywhere.
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Everyone's I've cuz I've heard a lot of people talking about this. I heard no
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one talk about Blue Beetle when it came out. >> Apparently Blue Beetle's [clears throat]
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actually quite good. Uh >> Okay. >> But again, I forgot it existed because no one gave a
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[ __ ] Like >> Yeah. >> So yeah. But yeah, Supergirl's
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doing not good. >> Really bad. It's only what? 100 million
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and it cost 185 million to produce. Ouch. >> Not good.
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Anyway. Yeah. >> I've still got faith in James Gunn to do
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something. What's the next DC movie?
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>> Uh is it Man of Tomorrow? No. Clayface. >> Clayface. Okay. Oh, this might be This
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might be tough then. >> Mhm. Man of Tomorrow is next year and Clayface is later this year.
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>> Yeah, Clayface that might be a bit scary because >> Cuz it's a horror movie.
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>> It's a horror movie. Not a lot of people really know Clayface. When they think
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Superman, they don't Like a lot of the >> Clayface is more of a Batman kind of >> Yeah.
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>> villain, I think. >> So >> Mhm. I know him from the games.
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>> Yeah. So it's your third one. Now we'll see what happens. He's got a plan.
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>> Yep. Yep. We'll see how it goes. >> Pay the big bucks at the moment.
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>> Yep. Speaking of the big bucks, we don't have any We don't have any. So if you want to
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can yell at us and tell us what to talk about. >> Mhm.
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>> And for $1 a month, you can support the show financially, uh which we would
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really appreciate. Helps cover the costs because there are some associated with
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running this. And uh for Oh, you also get the show early for that. And for five bucks a
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month, you get the afterparty, which is where we're going to be talking. We've got uh
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some candidates for Geek of the Week, which is where we're going to be
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deciding Yeah, Luke's going to decide who's the best person who died this week.
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>> And uh or two weeks, I guess, technically. >> Yeah, two weeks now.
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>> And we've got some follow-up on some canceled celebrities. Some big-name
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canceled celebrities. Somebody's back, and it's not Neil Gaiman this time. >> He I
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You know I hate talking about canceled celebrities, but I'll do it cuz you pay me to.
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>> It's not Neil Gaiman. >> It's worse. A lot worse. >> [laughter]
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>> We'll see you there. >> Bye. >> That's all for this week.
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