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Speaker 1: Luck down Bengal. It's preseason football. Will Choe Burrow and the Bengals be ready to roar against Caleb Williams and the Chicicgo Bears. It's a pig skin power struggle. Get the Goal live from dan Or to Dave Lappet. Coverage begins Saturday at five thirty pm and Cream High Free are the new and improved iHeartRadio or ESPN fifteen thirty in the official home of the Cincinnati Bengal.
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Speaker 2: TONI is going to be on the call as well. Just it's not like he doesn't work here.
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Speaker 3: What's up?
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Speaker 2: Moegor ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you so much for listening speaking to Tony, He joins us in forty minutes, Latest training camp update, Brendiman and Jones on Baseball, Wise, Money Sports and maybe the largest and longest shadow in Cincinnati sports. Now what it is? I will tell you in fifteen minutes. It's a good classic sports talk radio ts right there. One of my absolute favorite Twitter slash x feeds is Freezing Cold Takes. And I don't know if this is I don't know if this is good. I don't know if this is bad. I don't know if this is an indictment against me. I don't know if it's a statement about, uh, how accurate I've been with predictions and takes. I've never been. Freezing Cold Takes Old Takes Exposed. So Fred Siegel has for years run this account which sort of exposes, and I think does so in a playful way, exposes bad takes, takes that ended up proven to be bad, or inaccurate predictions or analysis that proved to be faulty. And he's got a book and it's called Freezing Cold Takes College Football. He's done a pro football one came out a couple of years ago as well. It's an incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions. And our buddy Jeremy Round from Fox nineteen made the book. So we're excited for him, excited for Fred. The book came out yesterday. It is awesome to have you, Fred, Thanks so much for doing this. How are you?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 3: Great, Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are folks in my audience, although not that many I would imagine, but I'm sure there are some who don't know what Old Takes Exposed is what Freezing Cold takes us so give me the thirty second encapsulation.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, on social media, I have an x and Instagram and a bunch of other of the social media platforms.
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Speaker 3: I basically it's pretty simple.
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Speaker 4: I post predictions or proclamations made by mostly media members, mostly about sports about that turned out to be completely wrong, and as soon as we can determine that they were wrong, I'll post it if it's something that's interesting enough.
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Speaker 2: Is college football the sport that like feeds your feed the most?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's the.
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Speaker 4: Perfect sport for bad predictions, I.
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Speaker 3: Thought, But I don't know. It may be tied with the NFL.
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Speaker 4: Of what feeds the most, just because there's so many discussions about the NFL, and there's so many people sending me things about the NFL because it's the most popular sport, but college football has the It's by far the gold mine of cold takes in terms of the way it structured and the way that people treat it. It's so emotional about it in the fact that there's so many teams, there's so many players, there's just so many games, and there's just so many narratives that you could put on any game. It's so easy to overreact anything.
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Speaker 2: You send me the book, and I joke with a coworker of mine, I'm like, he could have probably done two chapters just on Ryan Day and Ohio State from nearly two years ago when they lost to Michigan and there was a lot there. Is there anybody, any figure in college football that has lent itself, lent him or herself to more freezing cold takes than Ryan Day in the aftermath of Michigan twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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Speaker 4: I mean maybe coaches, certain coaches when they're hired, there's an overwhelming positivity about them. I would say, like Scott Frost when he was hired by Nebraska.
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Speaker 3: Everyone thought it.
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Speaker 4: Was going to be so good there and it just fell on his face. But the Ryan Day thing, what was interesting to me was how Ryan Day was just completely.
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Speaker 3: Written off and was treated like he was going to be fired.
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Speaker 4: After that Michigan loss was a really bad loss, but he had won so many games. No other coach has ever been considered to be fired for performance based reasons for doing that good it's it was, and and the fact that Ohio State had such a good team, they had so many great players that to just assume that they weren't going to do well in the playoff was kind of faulty within itself.
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Speaker 2: I think there's some of us who you know, were familiar with what you do on social media that thought this was going to be a book that was sort of limited to the social media age. What I liked about this, heck, there's there's there's a blurb in there from one of my all time favorite you see Bearcat football games, which is when they beat ron Data and Wisconsin in nineteen ninety nine. That's years before social media. So what is your favorite sort of I don't know, pre social media, maybe pre internet example of freezing cold takes in college football.
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Speaker 3: Well, there's a few.
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Speaker 4: I mean, one of my favorites is is the Sugar Bowl in ninety three, which was between Miami and Alabama, and Alabama was number two and Miami was number one. Back then, you didn't always have a national championship game because there was a Rose Bowl. Everyone was contracted at different bowls for different conferences. So it was a fact the national championship game and Alabama was just created like they were written off, and everybody thought Miami was going to pulverize them, and that's what Miami had the dynasty going on back then, and Alabama killed them.
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Speaker 3: But the takes during that game was before it, which is unbelievable, and I highlight that in the book.
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Speaker 4: But those were my favorite types of things to research, uh, looking back at the old newspapers and finding the old ones from before the social media and sometimes even before the internet, which was the case for that game. So that was a great one. And uh, yeah, the Cincinnati one.
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Speaker 3: Was really good.
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Speaker 4: Uh, I don't I think Jimbo Fisher was the offensive cordner for that year.
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Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, and that was a terrible UC team. They had lost to Troy the week before. Ron Daane was going to destroy him and he had a big game. He also had a huge fumble in the end zone. I helped tear down the goalpost that day. So that that game that we're seeing seeing a blurb about that game wore my heart.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean it was because they were I mean, Wisconsin was probably favored by a Gazilion employee, yep. Uh and uh yeah, so they I think.
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Speaker 4: They had a quarterback in there that wasn't that good. They switched quarterbacks after that game and then they won the Rose Bowl.
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, and the Bearcats I think won two two or three games that year. Fred Siegel Freezing Cole takes an incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions. Who is your your favorite? Who owns your favorite account that you you know is just going to be a gold mine during the college football season for for takes, the don't age Well, oh.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. Uh, cal heard Tim Brando.
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Speaker 4: He's great with coaching hires and he always defended them.
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Speaker 3: And uh, I.
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Speaker 4: Mean there's some new ones that have come up who've wrote risen up in the past years. Uh, some of those SEC guys, uh, SEC Mike maybe, but the Coward's always there.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 4: And I would say probably Brando, that would be the two of my favorites.
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Speaker 3: But there's some other ones too.
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Speaker 2: You know. And in going through the book, I knew I would see a lot of like Clay Travis and Aaron Torres, and you know, those guys are great like college sports take artists. I wasn't expecting to see like guys like Aaron Boone And obviously this is not I think when Aaron Boon was managing the Yankee. But you got a tweet from Aaron Boone about college football. Who is like, whether it's college football or any other sport, like somebody whose take you have used that like the average person would think would have no connection to the sport they're pining about, or even sports at all.
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Speaker 3: Well, you sometimes it's politicians.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, out of nowhere, we'll say something about somebody.
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Speaker 3: I mean, even the president.
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Speaker 4: I mean back in the day, he has some good ones. Johnny Manziel randomly saying that Johnny Manziel is going to.
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Speaker 3: Be great for the Browns in between whatever he posts about was tweeting about at the time, like that type of thing. But politicians probably, But Aaron Boone he was he wasn't with the Yankees men.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, during that he was with you again, right, doing baseball, so he was posting about. Yeah, surprisingly enough, he was posting about every game was being played, like whether it's NFL or He was very active on Twitter at times.
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Speaker 3: It's sometimes Alex Cora too.
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Speaker 4: When he was really Yeah he was doing but I don't know how much football, but he was acting very active and very responsive.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, sometimes that happened.
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Speaker 4: It could be an actor too, maybe, but I can't think of.
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Speaker 2: Specifics, but yeah, so so obviously. And look, there's a lot of sports talk hosts, a lot of columnists, a lot of people with podcasts who have been the people that have gotten because I think most folks when you when you like, you know, you'll retweet something that they have put out there. Usually it's you know, folks are good sports about it. When you give opinions publicly, some of them are going to be proven to be wrong, and you highlight that and it's done, I think in a fun way for the most part. Right, I don't know. But who's gotten mad at you, who's not had a sense of humor about it?
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I can't. I can't even remember.
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Speaker 4: Back in the day there was a bunch of high, high level people who got mad at me but then realized about what you were talking about.
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Speaker 3: But people do get uh. I'd say more of the writers get mad at me.
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Speaker 4: About in the uh in my d ms, you know what I.
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Speaker 3: Mean, which I don't.
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Speaker 4: I don't share my ideas, but some get really mad to the point where I feel bad for them that they get really mad, like it's gotta be something going on in their life.
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Speaker 3: But I think you know, the writers like that.
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Speaker 4: There's a certain accounts, are certain platforms, like the guys from when when Dead Finn was around.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like five years ago. I guess when those guys did not like me all.
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Speaker 4: And they used to really really really try to bug me and and kind of very snarky about it.
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Speaker 3: But uh, more of.
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Speaker 4: The writers than anything, because they they feel like they're working hard doing and and I'm coming in and just getting a cheap shot ont of there.
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Speaker 3: And that's really kind of the way they feel.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've dealt with that a little bit myself. Fred Siegel Freezing Cold Takes and Incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions as as we wait for the college football season to begin. If you love the sport at all, I promise you you will love this book. Fred. Where is the best place for people to get it?
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Speaker 3: You get Amazon? Any what place you get books? Really?
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Speaker 4: Amazon, Bars and Noble and in stores I think, I mean, I don't know how that works whether they're in every store, but they should be in the stores, so but online certainly Amazon's probably the best place.
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Speaker 3: But anywhere you can get books.
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Speaker 2: All right, We tweeted out a link at moweg or Fred I know you're doing a lot of these. I appreciate you making time for us man. Thanks so much, Thank you.
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Speaker 4: I appreciate this.
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Speaker 2: Book was a lot of fun, freezing cold takes and incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions. This is the second version of this type of book. He's done one for the NFL. I don't think there's a sport that lends itself to more bad takes, and I've had my fair share of him than college football. He does include what people said leading up to and you've got to be like U see die Hard. I think to remember this nineteen ninety nine, they play Wisconsin that was a bad U see team, and the week before they played Troy and lost I think thirty one to twenty four at Nippert Stadium. And what I remember about that Saturday night is I went to that game by myself, as engaged to my first wife, and she's like, nah, we're not good. So the next week I go with her and others to see him play Wisconsin and they were enormous underdogs. Ron Dayan. You see that year when three and eight Bearkats beat him seventeen to twelve. And what I remember more than anything is the following week they went to Ohio State and they actually led the Buckeye seventeen to three before losing that game like thirty one to one, or I wouldn't have been thirty one to twenty one, thirty one to twenty or thirty one to twenty four, something like that. But yeah, they lost to Troy the week before in front of maybe a thousand people. Came back they played Wisconsin. The stands were filled with Wisconsin fans, which he really couldn't tell at first glance because they wear red U see wins. Fans storm the field. My buddy, the late great Rich Wahlberg ran on the field with me. We get our hands on the goalpost. Wisconsint guy gets in my face and says something to the effect of, hey, remember last time you guys graduated a basketball player. And I looked at him and I said, well, let's talk during basketball season. And that year Kenny Martin would break his leg and Wisconsin would go to the Final Fours an eight seed. So kara karma for me, I guess. But anyway, it was fun to see that game included in this book Freezing Cold Takes by Fred Sea. I love that site. I love watching people get mad that their old takes get reposted. If you're in, if you're in the opinion game and you can't have a sensy humor when somebody throws your bad opinion or proven wrong opinion back at you, then get out of the opinion game. Nineteen after four, speaking of college football, the longest shadow in Cincinnati sports looms, Plus the Bengals are worth how much money will do Wise Money Sports with Brad Johnson, We've got to talk about how Nick Krawl continues to not be able to flip players in Tony Pike as well. Latest from Bengals training camp. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.
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Speaker 1: Luck down Bengal. It's preseason football. Will Choe Burrow and the Bengals be ready to roar against Caleb Williams and the Chicicgo Bears. It's a pig skin power struggle. Get the Goal live from dan Or to Dave Lappet. Coverage begins Saturday at five thirty pm and Cream High Free are the new and improved iHeartRadio or ESPN fifteen thirty in the official home of the Cincinnati Bengal.
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Speaker 2: TONI is going to be on the call as well. Just it's not like he doesn't work here.
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Speaker 3: What's up?
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Speaker 2: Moegor ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you so much for listening speaking to Tony, He joins us in forty minutes, Latest training camp update, Brendiman and Jones on Baseball, Wise, Money Sports and maybe the largest and longest shadow in Cincinnati sports. Now what it is? I will tell you in fifteen minutes. It's a good classic sports talk radio ts right there. One of my absolute favorite Twitter slash x feeds is Freezing Cold Takes. And I don't know if this is I don't know if this is good. I don't know if this is bad. I don't know if this is an indictment against me. I don't know if it's a statement about, uh, how accurate I've been with predictions and takes. I've never been. Freezing Cold Takes Old Takes Exposed. So Fred Siegel has for years run this account which sort of exposes, and I think does so in a playful way, exposes bad takes, takes that ended up proven to be bad, or inaccurate predictions or analysis that proved to be faulty. And he's got a book and it's called Freezing Cold Takes College Football. He's done a pro football one came out a couple of years ago as well. It's an incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions. And our buddy Jeremy Round from Fox nineteen made the book. So we're excited for him, excited for Fred. The book came out yesterday. It is awesome to have you, Fred, Thanks so much for doing this. How are you?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 3: Great, Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are folks in my audience, although not that many I would imagine, but I'm sure there are some who don't know what Old Takes Exposed is what Freezing Cold takes us so give me the thirty second encapsulation.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, on social media, I have an x and Instagram and a bunch of other of the social media platforms.
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Speaker 3: I basically it's pretty simple.
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Speaker 4: I post predictions or proclamations made by mostly media members, mostly about sports about that turned out to be completely wrong, and as soon as we can determine that they were wrong, I'll post it if it's something that's interesting enough.
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Speaker 2: Is college football the sport that like feeds your feed the most?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's the.
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Speaker 4: Perfect sport for bad predictions, I.
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Speaker 3: Thought, But I don't know. It may be tied with the NFL.
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Speaker 4: Of what feeds the most, just because there's so many discussions about the NFL, and there's so many people sending me things about the NFL because it's the most popular sport, but college football has the It's by far the gold mine of cold takes in terms of the way it structured and the way that people treat it. It's so emotional about it in the fact that there's so many teams, there's so many players, there's just so many games, and there's just so many narratives that you could put on any game. It's so easy to overreact anything.
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Speaker 2: You send me the book, and I joke with a coworker of mine, I'm like, he could have probably done two chapters just on Ryan Day and Ohio State from nearly two years ago when they lost to Michigan and there was a lot there. Is there anybody, any figure in college football that has lent itself, lent him or herself to more freezing cold takes than Ryan Day in the aftermath of Michigan twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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Speaker 4: I mean maybe coaches, certain coaches when they're hired, there's an overwhelming positivity about them. I would say, like Scott Frost when he was hired by Nebraska.
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Speaker 3: Everyone thought it.
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Speaker 4: Was going to be so good there and it just fell on his face. But the Ryan Day thing, what was interesting to me was how Ryan Day was just completely.
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Speaker 3: Written off and was treated like he was going to be fired.
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Speaker 4: After that Michigan loss was a really bad loss, but he had won so many games. No other coach has ever been considered to be fired for performance based reasons for doing that good it's it was, and and the fact that Ohio State had such a good team, they had so many great players that to just assume that they weren't going to do well in the playoff was kind of faulty within itself.
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Speaker 2: I think there's some of us who you know, were familiar with what you do on social media that thought this was going to be a book that was sort of limited to the social media age. What I liked about this, heck, there's there's there's a blurb in there from one of my all time favorite you see Bearcat football games, which is when they beat ron Data and Wisconsin in nineteen ninety nine. That's years before social media. So what is your favorite sort of I don't know, pre social media, maybe pre internet example of freezing cold takes in college football.
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Speaker 3: Well, there's a few.
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Speaker 4: I mean, one of my favorites is is the Sugar Bowl in ninety three, which was between Miami and Alabama, and Alabama was number two and Miami was number one. Back then, you didn't always have a national championship game because there was a Rose Bowl. Everyone was contracted at different bowls for different conferences. So it was a fact the national championship game and Alabama was just created like they were written off, and everybody thought Miami was going to pulverize them, and that's what Miami had the dynasty going on back then, and Alabama killed them.
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Speaker 3: But the takes during that game was before it, which is unbelievable, and I highlight that in the book.
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Speaker 4: But those were my favorite types of things to research, uh, looking back at the old newspapers and finding the old ones from before the social media and sometimes even before the internet, which was the case for that game. So that was a great one. And uh, yeah, the Cincinnati one.
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Speaker 3: Was really good.
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Speaker 4: Uh, I don't I think Jimbo Fisher was the offensive cordner for that year.
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Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, and that was a terrible UC team. They had lost to Troy the week before. Ron Daane was going to destroy him and he had a big game. He also had a huge fumble in the end zone. I helped tear down the goalpost that day. So that that game that we're seeing seeing a blurb about that game wore my heart.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean it was because they were I mean, Wisconsin was probably favored by a Gazilion employee, yep. Uh and uh yeah, so they I think.
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Speaker 4: They had a quarterback in there that wasn't that good. They switched quarterbacks after that game and then they won the Rose Bowl.
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, and the Bearcats I think won two two or three games that year. Fred Siegel Freezing Cole takes an incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions. Who is your your favorite? Who owns your favorite account that you you know is just going to be a gold mine during the college football season for for takes, the don't age Well, oh.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. Uh, cal heard Tim Brando.
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Speaker 4: He's great with coaching hires and he always defended them.
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Speaker 3: And uh, I.
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Speaker 4: Mean there's some new ones that have come up who've wrote risen up in the past years. Uh, some of those SEC guys, uh, SEC Mike maybe, but the Coward's always there.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 4: And I would say probably Brando, that would be the two of my favorites.
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Speaker 3: But there's some other ones too.
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Speaker 2: You know. And in going through the book, I knew I would see a lot of like Clay Travis and Aaron Torres, and you know, those guys are great like college sports take artists. I wasn't expecting to see like guys like Aaron Boone And obviously this is not I think when Aaron Boon was managing the Yankee. But you got a tweet from Aaron Boone about college football. Who is like, whether it's college football or any other sport, like somebody whose take you have used that like the average person would think would have no connection to the sport they're pining about, or even sports at all.
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Speaker 3: Well, you sometimes it's politicians.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, out of nowhere, we'll say something about somebody.
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Speaker 3: I mean, even the president.
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Speaker 4: I mean back in the day, he has some good ones. Johnny Manziel randomly saying that Johnny Manziel is going to.
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Speaker 3: Be great for the Browns in between whatever he posts about was tweeting about at the time, like that type of thing. But politicians probably, But Aaron Boone he was he wasn't with the Yankees men.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, during that he was with you again, right, doing baseball, so he was posting about. Yeah, surprisingly enough, he was posting about every game was being played, like whether it's NFL or He was very active on Twitter at times.
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Speaker 3: It's sometimes Alex Cora too.
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Speaker 4: When he was really Yeah he was doing but I don't know how much football, but he was acting very active and very responsive.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, sometimes that happened.
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Speaker 4: It could be an actor too, maybe, but I can't think of.
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Speaker 2: Specifics, but yeah, so so obviously. And look, there's a lot of sports talk hosts, a lot of columnists, a lot of people with podcasts who have been the people that have gotten because I think most folks when you when you like, you know, you'll retweet something that they have put out there. Usually it's you know, folks are good sports about it. When you give opinions publicly, some of them are going to be proven to be wrong, and you highlight that and it's done, I think in a fun way for the most part. Right, I don't know. But who's gotten mad at you, who's not had a sense of humor about it?
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I can't. I can't even remember.
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Speaker 4: Back in the day there was a bunch of high, high level people who got mad at me but then realized about what you were talking about.
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Speaker 3: But people do get uh. I'd say more of the writers get mad at me.
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Speaker 4: About in the uh in my d ms, you know what I.
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Speaker 3: Mean, which I don't.
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Speaker 4: I don't share my ideas, but some get really mad to the point where I feel bad for them that they get really mad, like it's gotta be something going on in their life.
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Speaker 3: But I think you know, the writers like that.
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Speaker 4: There's a certain accounts, are certain platforms, like the guys from when when Dead Finn was around.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like five years ago. I guess when those guys did not like me all.
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Speaker 4: And they used to really really really try to bug me and and kind of very snarky about it.
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Speaker 3: But uh, more of.
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Speaker 4: The writers than anything, because they they feel like they're working hard doing and and I'm coming in and just getting a cheap shot ont of there.
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Speaker 3: And that's really kind of the way they feel.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've dealt with that a little bit myself. Fred Siegel Freezing Cold Takes and Incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions as as we wait for the college football season to begin. If you love the sport at all, I promise you you will love this book. Fred. Where is the best place for people to get it?
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Speaker 3: You get Amazon? Any what place you get books? Really?
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Speaker 4: Amazon, Bars and Noble and in stores I think, I mean, I don't know how that works whether they're in every store, but they should be in the stores, so but online certainly Amazon's probably the best place.
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Speaker 3: But anywhere you can get books.
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Speaker 2: All right, We tweeted out a link at moweg or Fred I know you're doing a lot of these. I appreciate you making time for us man. Thanks so much, Thank you.
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Speaker 4: I appreciate this.
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Speaker 2: Book was a lot of fun, freezing cold takes and incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions. This is the second version of this type of book. He's done one for the NFL. I don't think there's a sport that lends itself to more bad takes, and I've had my fair share of him than college football. He does include what people said leading up to and you've got to be like U see die Hard. I think to remember this nineteen ninety nine, they play Wisconsin that was a bad U see team, and the week before they played Troy and lost I think thirty one to twenty four at Nippert Stadium. And what I remember about that Saturday night is I went to that game by myself, as engaged to my first wife, and she's like, nah, we're not good. So the next week I go with her and others to see him play Wisconsin and they were enormous underdogs. Ron Dayan. You see that year when three and eight Bearkats beat him seventeen to twelve. And what I remember more than anything is the following week they went to Ohio State and they actually led the Buckeye seventeen to three before losing that game like thirty one to one, or I wouldn't have been thirty one to twenty one, thirty one to twenty or thirty one to twenty four, something like that. But yeah, they lost to Troy the week before in front of maybe a thousand people. Came back they played Wisconsin. The stands were filled with Wisconsin fans, which he really couldn't tell at first glance because they wear red U see wins. Fans storm the field. My buddy, the late great Rich Wahlberg ran on the field with me. We get our hands on the goalpost. Wisconsint guy gets in my face and says something to the effect of, hey, remember last time you guys graduated a basketball player. And I looked at him and I said, well, let's talk during basketball season. And that year Kenny Martin would break his leg and Wisconsin would go to the Final Fours an eight seed. So kara karma for me, I guess. But anyway, it was fun to see that game included in this book Freezing Cold Takes by Fred Sea. I love that site. I love watching people get mad that their old takes get reposted. If you're in, if you're in the opinion game and you can't have a sensy humor when somebody throws your bad opinion or proven wrong opinion back at you, then get out of the opinion game. Nineteen after four, speaking of college football, the longest shadow in Cincinnati sports looms, Plus the Bengals are worth how much money will do Wise Money Sports with Brad Johnson, We've got to talk about how Nick Krawl continues to not be able to flip players in Tony Pike as well. Latest from Bengals training camp. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.
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