MESSI’S LAST DANCE WITH ARGENTINA + INTER MIAMI MUST START WINNING

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode of Messianco Live Edition, of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Ashley here as always with my incredible co-host, Gian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's been, I know, two weeks, the international break and everything we took the week off, but you know, even though in Miami, don't play until Saturday,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We thought it was important for us to do an episode before tomorrow and what's going to be an unforgettable and an amazing night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But before we get to all of that, happy Monday, Gian, how are we feeling?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm feeling good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually love Mondays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I started a new thing now on waking up at 7.45 a.m. every morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which maybe for most of you is not very normal, but I usually wanted to know those at sleep since and I've been waking up early, taking walks as soon as I wake up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I drink some water, I take a walk around the neighborhood and that's actually been really nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I highly recommend it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was reading a study that one of the things that you have to do to get your circadian rhythm going well for your sleep is actually, when you wake up, go outside and look directly at the sunlight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that actually kind of resets your circadian rhythm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would recommend not looking directly into the sun that hurts in a probably making blind, but at least, you know, in the general direction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I've been good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been good watching a lot of
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say a lot of like tennis stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a Shanghai open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you've seen any of that, that's pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I call my first dolphins game yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really watch them because they kind of suck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I watch them and they actually almost almost got the one they were pretty close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and then watching, I was actually watching the WIFA or WIFA conference league, which has been pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Watching Spain play, Lameen play, Holland play, Norway, Croatia, Croatia got whooped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, and now Christiana Ronaldo is... Oh, man, the drum was...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a lot of drum around that, and the guy that I replaced him, I forgot his name, his score, he's like, he's scoring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't it, is it, Ramos?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Ramos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ramos scored.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's three straight games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, was it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's doing good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So just been even when there isn't footballers football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know, when he doesn't play a watch a lot of the international stuff Argentina been playing to kind of trying to see how that team is going to look without Messi is going to be really interesting to see who steps up and and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, big good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, I love everything you said, love all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also, in terms of mornings, have been, well, I've been playing tennis two nights one night, one morning and a week, and I've been like, I told you this, obsessed with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's been the best thing ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then this morning, I also woke up at 7.30, and I ended hot yoga.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, oh wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which was really great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly such a good way to start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was actually doing yoga for a while too I really enjoyed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hot yoga just because I don't do get in the heat like I'm just not like I'm not a Unless I'm playing like I'm good, but yeah, but like being in a sauna Yeah, being all that stuff is just I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not I'm not a fan of it There's other types of yoga.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean there's this something called goat yoga where you do yoga and you put a goat on your back Have you seen that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: messy goes on everyone's back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, imagine go it's that's impressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Speak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Use that as a use that as a segue into the next segment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of goats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of goats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's true with with the international breaking everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously we're going to talk about it in my and me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about the previous match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What went wrong and we're going to talk about the upcoming match and just how the season like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of the things we've been saying, you know, it's, it's things have to change for sure, but before we do that, tomorrow is going to be an incredibly special day because it is Leonardo Messi's final match for Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His farewell match in celebration at the monumental, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In Buenos Aires and it's going to be
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[SPEAKER_00]: quite the celebration, quite the emotional evening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're seeing people all around the world prepare for it, he arrives in Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say yesterday, did a little bit of training today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's going to play the whole game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's going to play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what this plan is or if he's just going to, you know, play for five minutes or I don't know what the plan is, but it's going to be, you know, one of the greatest, obviously we say he's the greatest of all time, but, you know, for Argentina specifically, you obviously have maridon in the conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I will say one of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: if not the greatest to ever play for Argentina and, you know, brought them World Cup to what's the, I always forget, Copa Americas has gone through so much with Argentina ups and downs, but is obviously like the symbol of the nation brought the nation together as done just amazing things over these last 20 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's going to be, I think, a remarkable evening
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[SPEAKER_00]: and he's going to get every out of praise and feeling that he deserves from that one of those fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's funny just because he's playing against Benine and say it's this farewell game and who would have thought it would have been like an absolute party, you would have, you know, I understand I'm bringing in, you know, maybe a
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a Columbia or a Brazil or something you're definitely don't want Argentina to lose their last game with messy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or, you know, like it to be like hide, bad energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But but I think you still wanted something better than then many, but that's just goes back to our Argentina is Argentina always plays against the worst teams when they're preparing for the world cup or I guess they I mean it's it's just really down Argentina's alleyway to to be picking a team like Benina, but Benina I think is by far the worst team they've played against from I was looking at the the rank 93rd in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just in case you're running and I think most of us probably don't even know where Benin is it's it's an Africa but it's such a small nation in Africa I never heard of it um yeah no no it's uh and it speaks to how many it's crazy how many countries it are in Africa like you don't actually that is true and realize how many and I don't know if you're a little bit of like a geography here not to not to pretend on a geography uh dinosaur anything but I was
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[SPEAKER_01]: something and it came up that whoever's in charge of making maps, the map people, they apparently they're going to start using a different type of map that actually shows how large Africa is because in the typical map that most of us see Africa's a lot looks a lot smaller than what it actually is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Africa is actually much larger and then when you enlarge in that map you actually
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[SPEAKER_01]: how many countries there are, which is insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I bet you most, there are probably some countries and Africa, I've not heard of, but anyways, Benin ranked 39 in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that I've heard been said is that, that, what a tangent, I'm just falling along.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are things that I heard is that Argentina chose Benin also, not only because of the fact that they want to make sure that they win Messi's last game,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also the fact that obviously, you know, it's all about money and Argentina Federation is going to want to make it as much income as they can from a packed Monument Dal for Messies last game, and they were one of the teams that had the lowest match fees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they can keep the rest of the money from from what comes into that match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But nonetheless, let's get to Messie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Messie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You sound like a true person who does not like Argentina, but likes Messie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I digress, I'm not going to speak about that, but nonetheless, let's get to messy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The man of the hour, the historical goat, the best in my opinion, to ever play the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to play the game, you know, so might say, Belais, so may say, Manalona and I really think it also has to do with just the time for which you watched the era and which you watched football for me, it's gotta be, it's gotta be messy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He hands up coming out as the leading goal score with 125 goals for Argentina in 207 games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This will be his 208th game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess what we'll start is like with his journey because you mentioned it's been like a pretty crazy journey for for messy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It hasn't been all smiles and you know, celebration.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's been a lot of heartache.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think along the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's funny because it all started in aluminum and that when he was 18 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, playing against hungry back in 2005.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He debuted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He comes off of the bench and he.
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[SPEAKER_01]: ends up with a red card literally within a minute of getting on the field for elbowing a Hungarian player and he comes off in tears and I think it's just so like a storybook ending that his
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[SPEAKER_01]: career starts in the moment and then in the moment that in tears and we'll probably end in tears as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a story book, story book ending.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is messy done with Argentina?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The 2005 U20 World Cup 2008 Olympic gold 2021 Copa América, which was by the way his first senior title with Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The 2022 Finaleesima, the 2022 World Cup and lastly the 2024
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[SPEAKER_01]: Copa, America, it's just an incredible resume that he has almost won the world continent this year
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[SPEAKER_01]: Almost but then but then that's where we we have what you mentioned all sides of this the happiness and and the heartbreak he lost a 2007 go by Medica the 2014 World Cup final and then the 2015 the 2016 go by Medica's and if you remember it like when he missed the penalty right he missed it in the shoot out in 2016 and and that's where it kind of went rock bottom for him It all went downhill and he actually retired from margin team after that
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think just because just because he's such a competitor, we see that in Inter Miami.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he looks like he's always pissed even when he's winning just because of the fact that he just wants to do the best all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he felt like he led down Argentina back in 2016 and after not winning all those multiple opportunities he had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also we have to remember that Argentina fans were very hard on him and there were times where he would be playing and they were whistling at him and you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He retired, and that was his first goodbye, you can see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now tomorrow against Benino, he'll be his second goodbye to the team and Paul is his last, the real goodbye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So just a couple more things here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He finished the 2026 World Cup with 21 World Cup goals, which is insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a record by the way, before and my baby broke it, which was 22, which is pretty crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess what I wanted to ask you something, um, I think it'd be a good like, a little debate is losing the 2026 final, a stain in messy career or does reaching that world cup final at 39 kind of add to like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the legend and greatness of a message like this this mess mess up messies legacy with Argentina anyway the 2026 final what did it add to it or did it not make a difference now if anything it added to it not at all I mean it's not even like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think about what he did to get the team to the final.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The goals that he had in the World Cup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you could see that obviously, physically he's not what he was once, but the way he carries his soul and his heart and every ounce of blood, sweat, and tears for Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you able to do and create the will, the power?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I think most people did not expect Argentina to make it to the World Cup final.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This past World Cup, and it was only, I mean, Spain is a far superior team now when you think of how many.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like their whole team, no, I don't think I think it even further cemented Messi's sort of place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he just puts on, he puts the whole entire country on his back, you know, no matter the age.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think in any way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: him leading his team, Argentinian at the age of 39 to a final, and scoring, I think he scored eight goals if I'm not mistaken in this world cup, and putting the team on his back, just getting to the finals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it added, it added to his race.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were a time away from, from,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, there's, there's no way that that takes away from him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, it does quite the opposite it adds to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, if they were, if they were, what a one that it just, his status would have gone, like, just legendary, like it would, he, I don't know if you could have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you can go farther than being the best of all time, but he would have, which is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'd say that's it's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would have been like, it would have added to another status for Messi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, for me, at 39 years old, in doing what he did in this world cup and showing that he could still ball out and he could still put a team on his back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just cemented him, I think, as the best player in the history of
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[SPEAKER_01]: of Argentina and look, I respect Maradona's football career and what he did for Argentina and obviously I'm not somebody that really got to see other than highlights on YouTube that was able to experience it so you may see things a little different but I feel now that football is maybe more competitive players are more athletic
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[SPEAKER_01]: the fowls are harder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just think what Messi did and it has done in this age, this era of football is I think makes them surpass my own and that aspect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: But man, it's the end of my four game and the final versus Columbia, like how he had to go out with the ankle, the absolute like Bull you in The act he was in because of the amount he feels for his country and wanting to not disappoint everyone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just think there's, you know, one of the best
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[SPEAKER_00]: obviously of all the best of all time, but like one of the best to ever play for their country, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like to represent and hold their country and have their country on their back and do all that he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's so many layers to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, the celebration tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I probably will be emotional to watching it even though I'm not from Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think it's just the level of respect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have for him and because we've gotten to see him up close these last three years just as a person, you know, he's he's such a nice like inside an out he's kind he's friendly he's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: amazing, an amazing teammate and has done, you know, he's done amazing things for Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he deserves everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to get tomorrow and get to experience and I'm happy for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I'm happy for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He may score.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He may score five goals tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, like he may score five out of the 15 goals Argentina scores against me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it is, he might,
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... it's going to be a massacre i really do against his been in one of your sister for money goes as you want i don't know but i'm putting i'm putting myself in my self in the shoes of being i i feel bad like i've genuinely feel bad for this team that's going to go into a pack monumental
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've probably played back home on a playground at a high school playground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But how much money are they getting for it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know people are like, oh, but the AFA is going to make more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The AFA is still paid for them to come play in this match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: More than they probably make from any other match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're still like, it's like, I compared to college football in America, which is very unique in the fact that like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Bethoon Cookman goes and plays Alabama every four years and Alabama Played pay them like millions of dollars to come play against him in Alabama and like get their ass kicked like that's But then all that money goes to that school like you know me
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I just, I just Google this has been more earn precisely zero dollars in appearance fees from their friendly match against Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All revenue generated from ticket sales, broadcasting, marketing will go entirely to the AFA and the Columbia organizing agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Argentina's expected to clear roughly $13 million per match from these home-friendly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What has been in get been in national team received no financial payout instead, the host only covered basic expenses like economy, class,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is from gold.com and local accommodations sparking heavy complaints from banean delegation regarding dilapidated dilapidated hotels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not even putting them in hotels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're putting in motels like the one on US one here in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and poor travel conditions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think this is just like, hey, Benin, you guys live in a probably not the best place and we're gonna give you guys the opportunity to shake hands with Messi, play in Argentina and in the moment that the last game of Messi's career are historic game, plus we'll hook you up with a vacation for about five days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, for guys that try have nerve vacation in their life, this is probably like, it's probably doesn't take a lot of convincing for them in all honesty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and they made this agreement like like a while ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like they signed the contracts and everything knowing what look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know the details and there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be, you know, could be mixed feelings on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm going to just focus on messy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to just this is like when this like when Jake Paul, when like Jake Paul gets in the boxing ring with like, oh, yeah, we're flipping or like people like are like retired and can hardly move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what the equivalent is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, it's like, oh, Jake Paul is so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: In this case, either way, that's not exactly the same because Messi and Argentina are actually good, but anyways, it'll be a party, it'll be fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to watch the 20 to zero pounding that we're going to see tomorrow, and honestly, it's a historic moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for those of us, especially Barcelona fans, it'll be nice to see Messi, one of Messi's last international game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big fan of his.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here in Tornalini, I would say I might top here, first of all in Aligno and then Messi, those are part of the guys that most enjoyed watching, so boy in these last 30 years, so we years that have watched, bye-bye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It will be a spectacle that I remember seeing Louis Suarez as Final Match for your guy and all of the videos and that moment and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Messy didn't deserve such a terrible opponent for his last hit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're not talking about Argentinian versus Spain, or Argentinian versus France.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, OK, you got to make sure that Argentinian wins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Messy can at least score a goal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Benine, but like I said, if you've been watching Argentina play, this is what they do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They play against these these teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, like, when I saw Benine, I wasn't surprised.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was still like, maybe a little better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe like against Nigeria, you know, even though I knew Nigeria would probably give them lots of time in Nigeria as a good team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of these African teams are really freaking good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw that in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the point was is that they couldn't even have a 1% chance of it not going perfect for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you want this to be perfect for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other parts of it, look, I'm not saying AFA is the greatest organization of all time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not 100%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, all of that to say, I think it's going to be, I'm excited to watch him excited to see what they do for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if they're going to like, if there's a plan to like name the stadium after him or like name, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're going to do something really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but you can't, you're not, if my dad don't know, it's not, it, it, it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be my, I don't know, a hundred times at first if they were to name a stadium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or names that made the airport wasn't there talks about the airport naming it after him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to do something really big for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just I'm excited for him to get to have that final moment in Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with his family there, his friends, you know, everyone cheering for him after going to the ups and downs, getting to have that last dance and have that official goodbye because he deserves it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, all other things aside will just succeed upon and aside, corrupt Federation aside, Leonardo Messi deserves the moment and he deserves tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what matters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'll be watching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you'll be watching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There will be clips everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, one chapter closes, but another one is still open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's what we're going to transition to because of course, this isn't in our mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We podcast and so Oh, and also it's up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be the Paul's last match for Argentina too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I wanted to say that and I completely forgot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you brought it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He and who else was it that was invited?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was him and he Let me see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to look but yeah, but yeah, I mean, it's probably the post last match too Like he didn't get called up for the other matches This is the only one he's getting called up for and it's crazy because he's still young, but slowly he's kind of falling off over the last
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[SPEAKER_01]: year or so from from more Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm trying to get with somebody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got there was something or maybe it's Akunia, did it been him?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's also a shame is that Sergio Aguero never got to wait like have that Gonzalo, you're going Famous in America.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They never got to achieve those moments But we're certainly part of Messy
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I didn't know that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Former player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were the ones that didn't play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got called up for a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's possibly there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're last ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the one that'll probably get the captains Armand after messy retires is probably a Christian Romero most likely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so it's a changing of the guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could say it's like, it's messy out really Paul, you know, sales.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and then the captain's artmen goes to Romero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So look, I mean, I was watching a little bit of this Argentine team and they've got some young guys, you know, that are coming up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously, you can't have the expectations that any of them are going to be like messy, at least not now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think there's some good young kids and young guys that are going to be... And Enzo Fernandez, I'm sure, you know, he has taken, is going to be considered the talent spin of the team, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in the last few tournaments, he scored all these.
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[SPEAKER_00]: amazing goals for Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't particularly like him, but he seems to be, you know, getting those moments and we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, moving on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, in our Miami, back to the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cannot find consistency and figuring out what exactly is to blame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, obviously, the last match was
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[SPEAKER_00]: against a game they should have won again, you know, something I always am thinking and that it was the Columbus environment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was great, you know, it was a, it was a, it was a packed house, but this is a Columbus team that that was like what 13 or something like low on the eastern side of the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and for some reason, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: inner Miami have chance after chance after chance and cannot convert and even messy like I think they're, you know, he hit the pole, he hit the other thing like all these things in birth or amy who was gone for Mexico like you you didn't miss him at all in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I don't know what this team is going to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And look, yeah, I was a depleted squad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were injuries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were people that left for international break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it just feels like the soul of the team can't figure itself out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, when you watch it, you know something bad is going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's like, that's not the vibe you want going towards the end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the feeling, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even necessarily like moment to moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This team, I mean, like it says there are consistency, consistency has been the toughest thing for them last season they had a lot of consistency the season they haven't 10 draws in 27 games for this team is is absolutely crazy and.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the stadium, they built a beautiful new stadium and you're supposed to be good at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's supposed to be your fortress.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's supposed to be where you went games or you feel the most comfortable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in some amnes, the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do better on the road than they do at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're four seven and two at home, but they're eight, three and three on the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't, you can't be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: an MLS cup winning team like that like you can't be a supporter shield winning team like that you have to protect home there's a reason why teams want to be higher seated if not the first seat in the conference this for home field advantage but I feel like this in some amity and they almost should be the opposite they should go and try to be the eighth in cedar or the seventh year it's just not helping them try to get home field advantage um the question is is it is it the pressure of of playing at home that gets to them is it
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it, uh, is it maybe the pitch?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, maybe there's some things I don't think they'll ask it to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still asked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ratch was in Columbus, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but I'm saying at home, yeah, we'll talk about Columbus, you know, specifically putting away, but I'm talking about like at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, it's to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so weird that this team is so inconsistent at home, um, one thing too, maybe is it that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: because they're playing at home, the opponents play differently and the opponents play more of like my god, when you told people that we've seen play the best match of their life against it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all the goalkeepers play great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When they play against him, they look like Oliver Garn, or people fall and it's just incredible how they play, but also
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[SPEAKER_01]: The opponents play differently when they play here against Inter Miami, they play they typically will play deeper and they'll try to be a counter attacking team and I think that that hurts Inter Miami Inter Miami you see a lot of times we'll have possession.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the play from side to side, sometimes you lack verticality, especially since you lost guys, Xilveti, you lost that line in, that gave you more verticality, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And where can I miss you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And where can I miss you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that omit doesn't prove so, it's more a lateral movement, but what happens is intramami commits a lot of guys up front.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You notice that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what happens when these teams sit deep and they're giving intramami possession, they don't care that intramami has possession.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they're doing well on defense, but as soon as they recuperate the ball, because Interimami is playing so high up, they do one-two passes, they're on a counter, they're usually have a one-on-one against their centerbacks, and that tends to happen more at home than it does away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A way that teams will be more aggressive against Miami, they won't sit that far back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that may be a reason, but the other thing is, Interimami is a team that lacks in defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a surprise to anybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I probably don't even have to say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the issue is, in German, he scores, they've scored 64 goals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They scored a ton of goals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, they've conceded 50.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You score 64 goals, but you give so many back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem is, there's so many late game collapses for in German, like you never, they, it's very,
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[SPEAKER_01]: few times where this intramami team will put a team put a game away right like you often go 10th 20 minutes left the game is no this game with intramami they typically going to that against Columbus what's his name Jamal get it scored the winner in the ninth minute to stop each time like that's
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's unacceptable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Santiago Morales came on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it was in the 86-minute and he picked up a yellow in the 90-third.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just a lack of focus on this team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That referee though was so biased against Miami.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't like using graphs as an excuse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the center Miami team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's had a huge trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's been trouble over the last 10 matches, 12 matches, inexcusable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was even being like this,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a lot of that there were the referee and could have been better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you 100%, but you know what, if intramami was playing good and they were winning games and then all of a sudden they look completely different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This game
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you put that, and you add it in with the referee and you're like, okay, yeah, man, the referee will kind of really screwed into Miami, but when you're in Miami, continue to struggle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this game looked no different than the last four other than the seven one win that they had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they look the same and then the two of us all game exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not referring as much again, yeah, influences in that, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: if you can't put yourself in the position as a team to allow the referee to influence the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you train right, if they have a bad, if they have a bad call, you're still going to win because you're playing well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The last thing I'll say, I think in this regard, because we're talking about taxes, we're talking about consistency and we're even mentioning coaching here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough for a team to have three different coaches in one season because you have to remember these aren't coaches that are just building off of what the other did and they're just following the same tactics every coach comes in with the new training staff coming with a new coaching staff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you run up this for your, but who's going to be on the field?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, as football players, you become a custom, who's going to be on my left?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's going to be on my right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's behind me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, in front of me, it's, um, it's, uh, what's it called?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, still ready, still ready or whatever, or in front of me is going to be better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be behind me is going to be this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These coaches every time the new coach comes in,
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[SPEAKER_01]: they change who's on the team, and they change who's running where and and it's like starting from zero again, how can you you do that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I'm not a fan of changing coaches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you're going to change for a coach that's much better to me, all of these have been lateral moves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: from from Macherano tutorials to Kili Gonzales they've all been lateral moves you haven't improved in coaching in in my opinion I don't know how you feel about that but it's the same moves so you're just basically saying you know what guys let's start from zero and when you have a few games before the playoff starts it's the worst thing they could have done so
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it's about first team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel similarly that it does feel like lateral movements.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say that for oils and for kiwi, there is something to be said about the depth and the injuries and things that are more haven't been in their control, but have, you know, have they, they should be fixing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think what we will see now, though, is we are starting to get a little bit healthier and I think some players back like, for example,
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the game for against Columbus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, Miguel, being back and playing for the majority of the match, really helpful having him as a center back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, him and Kassimero like look, Kassimero obviously doesn't have the legs, et cetera.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's certainly been a net positive since he got here because he scored a bajillion goals and he still has the intelligence and the, you know, wherewith all the knowing what to do, why not to do so him and Mikael.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel better about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Regulon was healthy for one game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see if it turns into two or three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rick Alme, Rick Alme made his debut, and he only played for about 20 minutes, but I liked it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked what I saw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could have because he could have been because he's Brazilian and his name is Rick Alme, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, but I liked it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what that looks like, and you know, you had no to go via, you had no Bertarame, no Sylvetti, no I end, they're like all these things, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there are some caveats, but does, you know, is the depth coming back now, hopefully, and also the midfielder, I can't remember, I'm blanking on his name, but he's played now a few times, he is a long last name, he was
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, no, I'm not sure he's played minutes like he's I thought he's been good with his minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry I'm waiting on his name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but Galarsa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Galarsa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, bad wine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's had like he's fit right in in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's fit right into the team and it seemed like he's been there for a long time I like that so You know, there's so many negative say about this and remind me team and there's been so many things that are wrong I will be curious to see based on like I said the fact that we are getting some players back
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going into the, you know, can they turn things around?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we, can we see our, or is the injury crisis going to grow again?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's, there's definitely something to be said that the, the player availability has been a huge stain on the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It has.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I wanted to say one thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got to break the problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to say one thing really quick before we get into, well, before I enter this part, because I forgot to say it in the last segment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of goes into the depth too, because some guys, when they get guarded, they're not available to play, but I just think that one of the things that this instrument team, the players have to work on is their discipline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's fine killing Gonzales, but he also finally reyorn Mikael, right, the ballpinter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it was for all and going up to the ref.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they do this multiple games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're always going up to the ref free, they're complaining about every call.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a problem with complaining about calls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but about like almost every single call.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's, I just think they lose focus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they need to work on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, I had forgotten I wanted to mention that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But as far as depth, yeah, I think it's just been difficult for this into Miami team because I remember at the beginning of the season, some of those episodes that when 2026 first started, we were looking at who they were bringing in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were looking at the bench and we were saying how deep
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we were talking about how they were going to need a deep team, especially if they wanted to compete in multiple tournaments, because at that time, it was before leagues cup, it was before conca champions, it was before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That actual league, so there's multiple areas where they were going to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were going to need at least one to two different teams that could start at any given time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looked like they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's just like the injury bug caught into Miami.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And those are things that you can kind of say are out of their...
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[SPEAKER_01]: what they called out of their control.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, it actually begs a question, can it be in their control?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is what is the physical team?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are the physio therapists doing like, what are the when they're when they're training?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are they over training them?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they under training them?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are what's the recovery look like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think those are questions that need to be asked, especially when you have so many regimes coming in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: are these guys being prepared?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they being taken care of?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they eating?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That may seem silly, but are they eating correctly?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, it's crazy because it's, it's, it's it's so many things like you're talking about Tareo Ayende.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who else?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember some of these down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have Tareo Ayende, you have Silveti, that got messed up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ian Frey has been
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[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily, you know what, Messi hasn't had the injury bug and that's not fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not going to work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's been the best thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, and Yannick Wright got injured in the last game, hopefully it's nothing serious because he's an integral part of this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, 100%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like, that's been tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The goalkeeping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Rio Snowvo, what are we like, guys?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not what he's in the case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, guys taking a step back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one of the things we can talk about depth is obviously the injuries also is it's actually the player personnel and and there's those their level of play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you have messy 39 sweaters 39 Casemiro 34 the board 32.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And those are your top four guys, they're your best guys, and they're all 32 and over, probably average age of 36, 37, if you put it all together, and those are your top four guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's healthy for any team at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're just over the reliant on guys that are not going to be, they're typically not the best physically on your team, especially at the age of 39.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so what is the prime example, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just not the best thing and then especially when you're you're talking about those four players are your best players on the team Then you talk about being overly reliant on messy and swat is who one has 21 goals the other one has 13 goals like If those guys are tired or they're missing goals and they're just not scoring they're having a couple of bad games Then who who is is gonna take over the team?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where it goes into depth, like you need other guys to be able to step who else is scoring goals, where there's an intro Miami team and Messi isn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who else is scoring goals, what got to me, which is that connection has been incredible, that had a connection has been incredible, but can't rely on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Offence, like who else is carrying the offensive, it's not for two, thirty nine, two, thirty nine euros.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they're tired, who else is stepping up, nobody else, and that just goes back to the front office,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they didn't do a good job to adapt after the guys accelerate the and that they're doing this with that you in the went down early in the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What did they do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that I mean also, I mean, hasn't been good like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's, you know, messy can do as much as he can, but he also needs help, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we also saw that, we also saw that in the World Cup, eight goals in the World Cup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He needed help in Argentina and Inter Miami.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's playing beast mode, but I don't think he's getting the help he needs and it'll be interesting to see what they do going into the postseason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, it will be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, like I said, I'll be interested to see how Galarsa and recall me what they bring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they can bring some of that, like assisting an energy that the team is looking for needs, we're going to have to see, but you know, it all comes down to this like we're, we're running out of time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: can messy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if the question is, can messy save the season single-handedly when things answer yes?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a lot of other things that are to play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the question becomes, can inner Miami save the season and turn things around before the playoffs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because for a while, we were just saying, you know, they need to kind of just do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Reset, get back to winning ways, get the confidence back, you know, no big deal, no big deal, but then all of a sudden it's out like what two wins and like 12 games or something and it's become a problem and and the confidence goes and they're sorry to fight with the refs every game and it feels like everything's against them and so there needs to be to your point, a huge shift, not only with play and availability, but mentality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to be able to save the season and, you know, when back to back MLS Cup champions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, starting with Saturday, uh, the game that they're, the, what, when they play the game, it's, it's, you know, it's pushing on, pushing on the gas for the rest of the season and needing to keep getting players back, focused, and, uh, consistent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As an interesting question, because I guess we got to understand what is saving the season mean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If it means, if it means best, well, that's multiple things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can they win supporters shield, no, no, I'm not going to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, saving the season is probably like, you can break it up into two things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one is saving the season is getting back in shape and in proper form ahead of the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's step one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Step one is that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Step two is they got to make the they got to win the final look they have to work on on on getting home field advantage it's important even though it's funny we were just talking about how they're not a good home field team but I think that I think the playoffs are completely different from the season I think here in MLS you can coast kind of until a very end like my amy's been doing I feel like my amy's been coasting
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can get in proper shape and then be a completely different team in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's that's probably what we're going to see from me and they can do this right right now at the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to want a home field advantage, especially against the national team that has kind of gone the best of them as a recent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the the things have switched before we were, you know, we were kind of dominant over
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm kind of afraid of them and all honesty at this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the soonest that we can meet them depending on how some of these early, the early round school, we can even meet them as soon as the semi conference finals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't, if you meet national and the semi conference finals and you have to play them away,
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[SPEAKER_01]: you may not make the final.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they need to work on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not only making sure that you guys get better, that they get better heading into the playoffs, but get the results, they have to get home field advantage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as far as you said, Messi can Messi still carry the team 100% he's showing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still carrying it in the three kick he scored against Columbus wasn't insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like in it's insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've tried scoring that on FIFA on PlayStation and I haven't scored it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just incredible how he can do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's going to be interesting, it's going to be interesting to see what Messi we get and maybe maybe you can chime in on this, what you think, what type of Messi are we getting after his retirement from Argentina and not worrying about Argentina?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we going to get a Messi that is more locked in because he only has an intramarame now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we going to get a Messi that maybe is like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: He lost his love, his first love, which he's always said is the Argentine team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that going to kind of be a knock on him?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to see what that looks like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, intramami, beat Nashville, many beats Cincinnati, and they won't have a less couple of Vancouver three, one last season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's their completely different team in the post season, completely different team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I expect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw, can they save it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Will it be on Messi's back?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It has to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even think that's a question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but I don't know, what do you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What type of Messi do you think we're going to be?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think it will hurt him?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or do you think it will be something that's going to give him more motivation, I guess, because he'll be even more locked in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think tomorrow I think is going to give him a lot of closure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be obviously emotional and sad, but also a celebration in a lot of ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think in all honesty, it's going to offer him closure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And once that door closes, I think just because of his competitive nature and you can't be the best of all time if he didn't feel this way and do this for every single game you play, whether it's friendly, club,
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[SPEAKER_00]: country, tournament, preseason, you know, messy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you say, oh, you know, it's not going hard, going hard, he's still, he's still messy, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's, I think, yeah, exactly, he's a competitive beast and, and he, the way he probably feels that the Intermimy team has been, somewhat disrespected this season and the trials and tribulations they've had to go through,
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[SPEAKER_00]: all systems go and I think we'll do everything in his power to have them be champions once again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just about everything else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it's to work too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's kind of how I'm meaning to like I think that once he puts that behind him, he'll just he'll have full concentration on into Miami.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There'll be nothing else holding him back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe it's like, you know, it's, it's taking out a, taking out a thorn out of his side that that world cup loss with a with an MLS cup when obviously it's not anywhere near the same I'm not pretending it is, but I'm saying it's again going back to this competitive nature he lost something he's going to see if he can replace that by winning something and at the end of the day, like it's the only thing left, like he, in German he has failed in everything else it's,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so important to win this, not winning a single trophy and I'm sorry, I know some of you can't count the gunbionist cup, but but but what the happiness of team had after I'm just saying that that should have been the thing that changed everything and it didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like what's going on?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then after they're in the next practice and they're like, what did we win?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is this again?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, so to me, they really need to win this and I think Messi's going to be more motivated than ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And look, I've said this and I'll be the first to say it and I don't know if you guys agree, but I think if I think there's a real possibility,
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[SPEAKER_01]: If Inter Miami doesn't win MLS Cup, Messi's not here next season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really, really do think so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so, 100% because...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even want to give that as a possibility.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, this has been such a difficult season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not only what he's had to go through in his personal life, but adding to that difficulty has been the lack of competitiveness, the lack of winning real trophies, the lack of getting a spot in something,
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[SPEAKER_01]: an international cup next season right now we're not in the championship I mean so if you if you lose a molest cup and you don't have champions cup next season honestly I think messy major sleeve honestly so we'll have to see I just think it's really important I think they can do it by the way I really do like I have I have full faith this team will win a molest cup
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[SPEAKER_01]: but right now until the postseason starts this is they they have to go full steam ahead they need to they need to get on on back to their winning ways that you can't just go in there and be like oh you know and you can't go into the playoffs playing how they are right now and just be like okay well it's the playoffs I hope we can turn it on like you know you got to turn it on right going into it
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[SPEAKER_00]: Agreed, well, and look, they're playing DC United and New York City FC as their next two games, both at home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really important, I think, and really good opportunities to, you know, with players getting healthier, turning things, you know, start getting on the wing column and start figuring things out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's what I'm hoping for, like it's now is the time like you're right, like we've reached the point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no more waiting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope they do, and we'll be there every step of the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, look, I think we'll sort of finish where we started, which is
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to be an amazing, you know, spectacular night, giving him the send off and the praise he deserves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he comes back and hopefully we were able to finish the season on on a high and and you know, it's now it's now crunch time right like in October.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just laying it we have five games and you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: from the 10th to 28th we have five games in 18 days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So things are picking up and look that could be that could what if it's five wins, that's 15 points like what if it's four wins in a draw, what if it's three wins in two draws, you know, there's there's chances to create momentum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I really hope they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I think that's all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tomorrow is 3pm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 3pm ESC is
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're working, maybe put on your phone, if you're not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was at 6 p.m. Or the celebration started three, maybe like the priest stuff started three, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure the game is at six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it says three, three p.m. EST right here on, I just Google it right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And see, I'm going on ESPN.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe something starts at three because yeah on Google this is three p.m. but when I go to ESPN it does see seven p.m. EST so probably the game is seven and they're probably doing some festivities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a lot of things leading up to it yeah but overall it'll be a legendary day uh yeah so anyways um like we said we had a little break for the international and noble we're back we'll be having our weekly episodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: as the season winds to an end and we're starting to get to the business part of it where every match and every moment matters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So make sure as always you're following us on X at Messy and Co. Make sure you are subscribed on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have a notification bell on like the video helps us a lot by reasons football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, we'll be watching every moment of tomorrow as well as, you know, these next games and how this in my meeting does and and how messy enjoys his farewell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for this episode of Messianco, I'm Ashley, that is Gian, and we'll see you next time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye guys.