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Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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Yo, what's up, losers? What's up, everyone? Happy August 13th. Yeah, guys,
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how's it going? We're talking about Antilia tonight. Not many
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people know what Antilia is, but we're here. Let's go back.
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Hang on.
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Oh, hang on. Whoops.
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No other side there we go so on the left
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side of the map there is a little island rectangular
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island but it's a phantom island so today there is
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no island there but this is kind of a representation
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of what people thought back then 500 ish years ago
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um So what is Antilia? Antilia is a phantom island,
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meaning people used to believe in it. There was legends, rumors.
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But over time, I guess kind of people realized it
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wasn't there. But why it's important to us is this
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was on people's minds. This was all over maps before
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they discovered the Americas. So these little islands may even
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actually represent some distant memory of the Americas. some connection
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to Atlantis, something like that. But what we're really going
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to be centering on tonight is, was Columbus looking for Antilia?
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Was he looking for places like Antilia? Did he know
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where he was going? And Antilia is a fascinating part
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of that, you know, the whole Columbus story. But yeah.
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That's the rundown. Juan, how are you doing, man?
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Doing all right, bro.
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How are you doing? Chilling.
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I just walked over here. The Bible class didn't go
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late or anything. I was just a little late.
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Like always, nothing new there, dude. It's fine.
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Not a big deal.
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Well, you know, doctors are pretty in demand.
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The doctor from Bussey Island, bro. We're going to be
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talking about Bussey Island tonight. For those that don't know. Yep.
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And, guys, if you like classical music, make sure to
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throw on a little Bussy when we're talking about Bussy Island. Yeah,
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it's another phantom island.
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And....
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Well, yeah, all right. So, what is Antilia?
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One question, though, before we begin. Did Columbus know about Atlantis?
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Yeah, so... Columbus... After reading through all his stuff, I
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don't think he mentioned Atlantis by name. But the most
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interesting kind of rabbit hole there is that his son
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made a very interesting remark about Antilia and about the
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Hesperides Islands. So Columbus, I don't think he flat out
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said Atlantis. But remember, Atlantis is kind of like we
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all really know about Atlantis today. But Columbus was Italian.
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He was Italian. Well, he's spending a lot of time
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in Portugal and Spain. And that's why Antilia is so important.
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I don't necessarily know if they would have been talking
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about Atlantis so much because Antilia kind of was there.
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They're Atlantis. I like I. After reviewing some of the evidence,
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I think. sorry, Antilia is Atlantis. It's the same memory
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preserved by different people in different areas. So in Spain,
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500 years ago, you probably wouldn't have heard that much
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about Atlantis, but you probably would have heard about Antilia
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maybe almost every day, especially if you're a navigator. That
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being said, Columbus's son talks about Antilia, he believed it
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was a real place. He used it as a navigational, um,
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as like a navigational, uh, like a milestone, like a benchmark,
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like a reference point. He said, yeah, I believe Columbus, um,
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Columbus's son said, uh, if you're trying to get to
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Japan from the Atlantic ocean, he said, Antilia is like
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halfway there. So, uh, His father had discovered the Americas
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by then, but he still felt the need to talk
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about Antilia as if it was actually there. So that's
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one interesting little kind of, I don't know, one little
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oddity about that is apparently this was a phantom island
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because they didn't know what was out there. They didn't
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discover the Americas yet. But Antilia... was still being treated
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as though it were a real place. Even after Columbus,
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even after Columbus came out to the Americas. So yeah, here,
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I'll try and pull up that exact quote of what
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you said about Antilia. Go ahead.
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Both of those comments. What have I been, what have
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I been telling you? Let's do a Bermuda triangle episode.
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There is one coming. It's going to be just about
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the Bermuda triangle episode. And then also we will be
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getting to this because there's some interesting phonetic connections.
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I hope you like pizza.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, no, definitely. And there is a.
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I just did an episode with Professor Longo. from the
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department of magic, the Florida department of magic. And we
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talked about the hermetic tradition and, uh, Bruno and, uh,
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you know, that whole idea, which is around this time, right? 15th,
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16th century on that area. There is this other more
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philosophical sort of thing where back then the occult and
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science and all these different, uh, you know, areas of
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study were all one. And cartographers in particular, which John Dee,
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by the way, was friends with Gerard Mercator. The way
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that you could interpret it after the fact is it's
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very hermetic because they're trying to, in a lot of
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ancient maps, they also had the Garden of Eden on there, right?
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So they saw the Garden of Eden as a sort
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of place that could still be accessed. Right. But if
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you peel it apart a little bit and you look
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at it from the hermetic perspective of understanding the macro
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to understand the micro, maps take on a whole different
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meaning to where cartographers are trying to de-occult hidden places
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and finish coastlines and things like that. But at the
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same time, you could look at it as like trying
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to find how you said you mentioned earlier a memory.
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And that's really interesting because we can bring the Garden
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of Eden to where they were trying to find these paradises.
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But is it a physical paradise? Is it a state
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of being, perhaps? You know, when they were kicked out
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of the garden, it was a state of being for humanity.
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So maps, we can talk about that a little bit later,
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where maps kind of sort of take on this different perspective.
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If you look at it from today's lens.
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It takes on a whole different philosophical meaning, which I
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can get into later. I just wanted to bring that
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up to where it's reflective of exploring the unknown, but
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at the same time, if you look at it from
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the hermetic perspective, it's like discovering oneself as well. The
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macro is the world, the micro is within. And they
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believe that if they could manipulate the macro... And the micro,
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you could quite literally manipulate reality. So there's something to
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be said.
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Maybe these were real places. Maybe they disappeared.
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I don't know. I mean, that's the whole thing behind
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Atlantis too. Was Atlantis an actual place? Was it a
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place in time? Was it a state of consciousness? Like,
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what was it?
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Yeah. No, I think you're onto something with that. And
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when you describe that, it actually makes me think of
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which I've been talking a lot about kind of recently,
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Plato and the concept of a noble lie, right? So
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that's like history. But remember what the two dimensions to
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this world are distance or like space you know a
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map basically right location and time so like with astrology
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you know the the source of all things you know
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you look where and when you know so Plato talked
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about like inventing mythologies and if there's kind of a
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question mark or if there's like a blind spot in history,
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Plato almost kind of says like, well, fill it with
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something good, you know, fill it with something that instills virtue. And,
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you know, that's like where we get the term noble
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lie or whatever. But when you describe that, it makes
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me think of, you remember playing Grand Theft Auto or
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some video game and you start off on one town
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or one island and that's all you can see. Like
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you go to the, you look at the map and
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it's like blurred out except for that one little spot.
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And you kind of have to go out and pass
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missions or just explore. And you eventually open up that,
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that known world, you know, that, that, that, that is
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like the known world. So it kind of makes me
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think of kind of like Plato saying, well, you go
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far enough back in history. We don't even know anything.
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So you can just kind of insert what you want.
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And yeah, Make sure it's good. Make sure it instills virtue.
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Maybe some map makers are doing the same thing. When
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they see a blank spot, they're like, well, we don't
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know what the fuck is over here. Let's just put
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something in. Maybe some words.
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Bussy Island.
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How does that sound, boys? Bussy Island. You want that
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in there?
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Boom.
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He draws it in. Shape of a penis.
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And, you know, shape.
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That's another thing, too. The shape of these islands, in
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some cases, may represent something. Most islands are kind of amoeba-like,
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you know, kind of no real geometry going on. Well,
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some of these islands are oddly geometric, you know, and
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some of the myths attached to them certainly bear, you know,
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this maybe hermetic, alchemical, secret meaning with the stories that
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kind of explain these places. And sometimes, you know, hey,
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if you're going to create a story, a fictional story,
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or a mythology, or if you're going to create a
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noble lie. Well, you can take another page out of
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Plato's book. Remember, Plato did kind of... Plato kind of
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started the Atlantis thing. So, you know, he's kind of
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telling you the playbook, and he's showing you how he
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does it.
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You know what I mean? So, was he lying or not, bro?
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I mean, this guy's a troll of history, essentially.
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See, this is what I think about the noble lie,
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and this is what I think about Atlantis. Atlantis... Is like.
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Have you ever heard the disgusting joke that all these
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Hollywood comedians do called the... It's not bureaucrats. What is
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it called? Is it called the bureaucrats? The... Guys, what's
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this joke called that Bob Saget used to tell? It's
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the most disgusting joke of all time. Do you know it?
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Was it called the bureaucrats? Aristocrats. Thank you.
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All right.
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It's called the aristocrats.
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The aristocrats, yeah.
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Yeah, so you don't need... The joke's not important. Thank you, guys.
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Meyer butt reeks, of course. Meyer butt reeks was on
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the money.
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That's his favorite joke, bro.
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On the money with that one. So, yeah, it's the
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dead baby joke. Yeah, it's like... terrible it's a disgusting
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joke but basically it's the only it's the first example
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that came to mind of this like tapestry it's like
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a tapestry that many people contribute to or pick up
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and kind of put their own spin on it it's
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almost like a cover song it's almost like a song
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that many many bands have covered the Atlantis myth is
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like Atlantis is almost like a challenge okay Atlantis is
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one of those noble lies that other people can contribute.
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And I'm not going to say noble lie. I'm just
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using that term because it's associated with Plato and people.
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I've been talking about it recently. I do believe Atlantis
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is a real place. Now, where does the lie part
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come in? Well, did Plato really know all the dimensions
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and the animals and the metals and All those little,
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all that minutia, all those small little specific details. If anything,
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I think if anything's going to be made up, it's
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those parts. And those little numbers, you know, like Plato saying, oh,
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it's 300 stadia by 200 stadia. Or, you know, he's
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giving these exact dimensions, stuff like that. I think those
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numbers may have meaning. Remember, Plato was like a Pythagorean too.
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You know, he was a bit of a numerologist. Kind
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of like a proto-Cabbalist.
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A Gematrius, perhaps?
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Yeah. So I think Plato probably was sprinkling in little
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secrets and little symbolisms in the specifics on Atlantis, but
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I don't think he just came up with the whole
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thing out of thin air. Now, I bring up that
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joke because Atlantis is like... It's almost like the... It's
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almost like your resume. Okay. like the occult resume. So
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each great occultist mystic, whatever, who comes around, they all
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have a take on Atlantis and they, they're all like
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perfectly okay with just totally like disregarding what the other
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people said about it and just coming up with their
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own shit because Atlantis is understood within occult circles, not
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to just be like a, an old place with a
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single history, with a writer, you know, you either know
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the right history or you don't. Atlantis is like an opportunity.
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It's like a tapestry or like a shared piece of
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art where you can basically prove or show what information
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you have and kind of embed it into this Atlantis myth. So,
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you know, uh, Francis Bacon had his, had his own, um,
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Atlantis myth, uh, Aleister Crowley had his own take on
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the Atlantis myth.
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Let's not go too far.
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Tartaria is sort of like the new Atlantis and a
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sort of maybe not Phantom Island, perhaps, but Phantom... Empire. Empire.
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It was definitely on maps, 100%. Was it a real place?
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Did we take over the buildings that they had built, supposedly...
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highly advanced technology with this highly advanced civilization.
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I don't think so.
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But, you know, some people will die on that hill.
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You have the world fairs where some people say, hey,
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look at all this architecture that was knocked down. It's
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like you've obviously never seen a movie set, right? Where,
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you know, they've done, they can make it look like
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you're in a different place and you're on a freaking set.
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a whole different dimension and kind of set so yeah
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and i'm with you on that i just and maybe
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perhaps let's be real plato and all these other guys
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were in secret societies essentially they were initiates in their
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own way for their time what did it say above
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his school that only what's the saying above his school
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that's something about the mathematical or something or other Only
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those who something.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Let no man ignorant of numbers enter here or something
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like that.
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Something along those lines. I know what you're saying.
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But again, they were initiated. And there was this Rosicrucian
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text that I read, or book I read a while back.
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And the first lines always stuck with me because it said,
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the uninitiated... To the uninitiated, they read the text, and
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I'm paraphrasing.
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They read the text.
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And it means one thing. To the uninitiated, to the initiate,
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it takes on a whole different meaning. Now, what exactly
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does that mean? I don't know. I'm not initiated. But
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I could perhaps draw from that that, hey, they have
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different ways. Like the Oculus, right? The society of the Oculus.
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They knew how to read these symbols that weren't cracked
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for over 250 years that only they could read. So
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that's the way I interpret it, where they're able to
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read between the lines.
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You're right. Well, hey, give yourself more credit than that, Juan.
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I'd say you're pretty initiated.
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Self-initiated, yes.
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Self-initiation.
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Yeah, you know.
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Yeah, 100%. I think if they brought you into a
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Freemasonic lodge, you'd get to skip a couple degrees. You've
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got some.
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Some honorary degrees, yeah.
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Yeah, so.
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Let's try it. Let's go.
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Let's do it.
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Let's sign up.
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All right.
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Let's go.
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Here we come. Well, here you bring up another good point,
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and that's kind of why geometry is important. So I
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looked up the saying and it said Plato said. Let
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no man ignorant of geometry enter here.
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There you go.
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So interesting. You know, we usually think of Pythagoras with
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the shapes. Right. But Plato clearly cared about it, too.
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And that brings us to kind of a whole nother perspective,
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which is. There's these noble lies. There's myths. There's, you know,
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there's mysteries embedded in myths, right? There's all these interpretations
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and deeper levels and secrets. Well, that's one side of it.
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On the other side, I see geometry is the opposite
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of that. Geometry, there is no interpretation. You know, maybe
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you can attach some symbolism to some stuff, but what
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you see is what you get. You know what I mean?
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The measurements are clear. and evident and unavoidable you know
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you can't bullshit your way and and just like come
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up with shit off the top of your head because
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there are rules things only fit in certain ways you
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know and these shapes are uh fixed you know the immovable.
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They're sacred some are sacred bro you got us in
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and that was the whole thing with the pythagoreans with
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number so you can start to attach and take all
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these things and start connecting them together where the shape
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the geometry the architecture that was built on said geometry, right?
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And that's where you get Pythagorean palaces, which is the
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concept of building a building to a certain geometric proportion
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to elevate the consciousness of the people within it. Now
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take that into consideration. Maybe Atlantis was built as a
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whole city in a certain type of way to elevate
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the consciousness within it. And you can, if you can
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elevate the consciousness by using geometry and architecture, I'm sure
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you could do the opposite. Look at a shithole like
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New York.
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Who would want to live there?
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Maybe they're using the architecture to suppress the consciousness of
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people there. Totally.
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That's not just one area, too. The geometry, what you're saying,
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it applies everywhere because so many of these crazy people
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on the streets, so many of these people talking to themselves... Drugs,
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whatever the fuck. I've heard that geometry is actually really
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helpful with helping people come back to reality because it's
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so basic, because it's so, I don't know, universal. There's
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a better word for that.
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It's embedded in our DNA, bro.
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Yeah, and you can't bullshit. You can't look at a
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triangle and and be like, oh, this actually means that,
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and that actually means this, and my family's in the Illuminati,
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and all this bullshit. The rabbit holes don't lead anywhere.
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Geometry is geometry. And I forget whether it was a
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geometry textbook or just having people look at shapes, but
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I've heard, I forget where, that basic geometry and very
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basic math is very helpful to people in you know,
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having mental illness that focusing on these simple, true, you know,
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math is true. You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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It's kind of theoretical, but it's also like a kid
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playing with, with like, you know, the square peg in
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the square hole round peg in the round hole. Like
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it's almost like watching those Instagram reels where it's like
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grass getting cut in a, in.
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A certain with an AI voice over it.
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Yeah, like grass getting cut in like a nice, very
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satisfying grid. Right. We've all felt that feeling of like
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a satisfying shape or like a thing that goes in
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something else. And, you know, people who like people watch
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shaving video, I guess it's kind of like ASMR. Just
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seeing things that are kind of like undone, get done,
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get completed, get rounded out, you know, completed, smoothed over.
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It's like me when I see the gopher tortoise hole.
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And then my bulldozer just goes over it.
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And then it's not there anymore. And it's nice and
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smooth and graded.
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That's the way I feel. You get what I'm feeling now, bro.
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That's the feeling I get every day. When I just
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see the 30 gopher holes and they just get filled
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in with that clean fill.
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It's music to my ears. Joking.
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Joking. If the FWC is listening to me. I'm just kidding.
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I would never do that.
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Sorry, someone's yanking at our door.
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Yeah, make sure not to open it, dude. Maybe they
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want to come on the podcast.
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That's okay. I think they want to come on something else.
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Not the podcast.
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Did you see the.
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What was it?
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The dollar... I think it's... There was a report where
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I think the most place that people have been jizzed
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on is Dollar Trees or something like that. I may
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be getting that wrong, but let me find.
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Pretty good bang for your buck.
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Let me find that.
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Hold on. Let's see. I think they call them goon
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bandits or something like that. The gooner bandit, gooning bandits.
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Hold on.
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Damn, Louis C.K. type shit?
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Yeah, bro. Can you imagine like, hey, dude, I'm stroking it.
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But then the person still comes into the room like,
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what are you doing, bro? Like, who's the weirdo in
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that situation? Was it Louis C.K. or was it the
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person that he told them like, hey, I'm stroking my meat.
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Don't come in here. And they still walked in.
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No, I feel like that's the explanation that he gave
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to like get out of it. I heard he like,
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he literally like threw jizz like across the room. What?
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Like did he ejaculate it or did he like grab
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it in his hand and throw it? Shit, man.
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You're going to have to ask him, but I heard
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that's what I heard, but that's, that's more your specialty. That's,
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that sounds more of the homuncologist, uh, Alright. So, yeah,
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so there's so much we could say about Atlantis and
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the art of, like, myth-making or the art of whatever,
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you know, fantasizing, coming up with a place. I guess
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what I'm trying to get at is, you know, sometimes
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to come up with a noble lie or to come
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up with mythology, you know, it serves to just make
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a place out of thin air. You know, oh, this
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was that place where Everything was good. This was the
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golden age, you know. The golden age is kind of
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like that, too, with with an old time, you know,
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a time. That's kind of what Star Wars does. Did
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you know this? We're kind of going off on a
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bunch of raffles.
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That's OK. It's fine.
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Did you know that the opening the opening line to
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Star Wars is a hypnotic induction?
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And then it starts going... No, no, no.
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Not the music. The first line in the scrolling subtitle
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or the intro title, it's like, in a galaxy far,
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far away. In a time long ago. Did you know
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that that is actually one of the oldest and most tried... hypnotic.
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Inductions wasn't georgio fucus a mason.
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Oh i don't know i don't know but um what's
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uh man what was.
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I just saying about the uh hypnotic induction from star wars.
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Yeah so it doesn't work on everyone but it's a
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really really good way to start a story because yeah
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In a galaxy far, far away.
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In a.
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Long ago, long ago time ago. So basically, when you
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do that, when you say in a time long ago,
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in a place far away, you basically just like took
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our two reference points for like what reality is, like
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where am I, who am I, you know, where, when.
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You take those and you basically just like put them
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in a cannon and just like launch them away and
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don't come back to it. Like, don't explain it. Does
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that make sense?
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Well, and speaking on noble lies, it's like those movies
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that start off with based on true events, like the
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found footage, horror movies where they don't really tell you
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if it's real or not or what. And because you're
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the entire time you're watching, you're wondering which part is
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based on the true event.
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You go what I'm saying? Based on true events.
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Well, which one of all these events that happened in
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this crazy-ass movie were based on the true events, right?
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So again, it's another way of, and I think that's
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why the Blair Witch Project and a lot of these
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found footage horror movies were so popular, because it's something
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similar to what you're saying. Yeah.
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This is a great comment, Carter. That's exactly the goal
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with those type of inductions. It's not foolproof. It's not like, alright,
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I say this sentence and everyone's hypnotized. But Let's think.
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What are those Star Wars, start star trek star wars
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people like are they the most and i'm generalizing guys
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right well no they're thor guys are cooler than star trek.
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Guys i'll give them that start really you think.
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So star trek is like the bottom of the barrel.
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No not star trek star trek's gay i'm talking about star.
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Wars star star wars is good i like star.
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Wars But you'd put the Thor guys above the Star
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Wars guys?
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Hang on.
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You mean Thor the movie or just like pagans?
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Yeah, pagans, bro, from last week.
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Yeah, they're okay. They're cool. Okay. As long as they're
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not attacking Jesus.
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This guy's a boss. Look at his profile picture, bro.
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He's got a gator in there.
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I know. This guy's a G. Anyways.
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That's pretty nice.
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So the hierarchy, okay.
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Um. Where were we at? Forgot. Spaced out. All right.
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So, whatever. Star Wars, this and that.
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Way to suspend your beliefs for them, you know, while
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you're being initiated into this movie. And the geometry as well.
482
00:30:53.369 --> 00:30:59.849
The geometry serves as a mandala, right? To carry your consciousness. Away.
483
00:31:02.390 --> 00:31:06.029
To a different state. So that's why again. A lot
484
00:31:06.049 --> 00:31:09.079
of ancient cultures used. And I think that the angels
485
00:31:09.150 --> 00:31:13.420
and angles. Connection is there. Maybe it might be the
486
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:18.819
same thing. Because a lot of the descriptions. During John Dee's. Workings.
487
00:31:19.619 --> 00:31:24.160
A lot of the beings were very. Geometric. In form.
488
00:31:24.740 --> 00:31:27.839
The descriptions that they talk about them. So. Yeah.
489
00:31:28.420 --> 00:31:28.859
Definitely.
490
00:31:29.299 --> 00:31:29.640
Anyways.
491
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:38.819
So, yeah. Antilia. Let's start off with Antilia. There's something
492
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:42.009
that we probably should have started off with. But, Juan,
493
00:31:43.130 --> 00:31:47.930
do you know what the Antilian Islands are? The Antilles.
494
00:31:50.269 --> 00:31:51.210
The Antilles.
495
00:31:52.009 --> 00:31:52.230
Yeah.
496
00:31:53.349 --> 00:31:53.609
Yes.
497
00:31:54.970 --> 00:31:56.049
You're from the Antilles.
498
00:31:56.470 --> 00:31:58.839
Yes. Yes. There's the greater and the lesser. And that's
499
00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:00.660
what I thought you were talking about when you called
500
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:03.059
me the other day. And you're like, let's do Antillion.
501
00:32:03.099 --> 00:32:07.420
I was like, this guy retarded? You mean the greater Antilles?
502
00:32:08.099 --> 00:32:09.180
But yes, I do know what that is.
503
00:32:10.900 --> 00:32:20.049
Well, yes, I am retarded, Juan. But I'm also a genius. BarefootBedge,
504
00:32:21.210 --> 00:32:24.109
the 499, says, Yo, Longo, any chance you could put
505
00:32:24.150 --> 00:32:25.650
together a reading list for us?
506
00:32:26.630 --> 00:32:26.859
Yeah.
507
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.920
The Bible. Done. See you later.
508
00:32:33.980 --> 00:32:34.299
No.
509
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.309
I'll put one together. I'll give you five quick ones
510
00:32:40.369 --> 00:32:48.930
right now. King James Bible. With the Apocrypha. Doesn't have to.
511
00:32:49.130 --> 00:32:52.859
But with the Apocrypha, I like. Because then people can't say, oh,
512
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:54.059
they took all the good stuff out.
513
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:54.859
You know?
514
00:32:56.160 --> 00:33:01.890
King James Version with the Apocrypha. The Complete Works of Plato.
515
00:33:03.430 --> 00:33:07.109
Complete Works of William Shakespeare. Those are three big books.
516
00:33:07.150 --> 00:33:12.839
They all look like the Bible. And Seven Pillars of Wisdom.
517
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:14.619
Lawrence of Arabia.
518
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:26.119
And then... The King James Version comes with the Apocrypha
519
00:33:26.180 --> 00:33:26.769
already in it?
520
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:28.940
Like, is there a version with the Apocrypha in it?
521
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:33.230
Well, at times, yeah. But, um....
522
00:33:34.539 --> 00:33:38.019
Because which Apocrypha would you recommend? I mean, there's plenty
523
00:33:38.059 --> 00:33:38.579
to pick from.
524
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:41.579
Yeah, I mean, as long as it has, like, the,
525
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.700
what is it, 13 basic ones. The one that we
526
00:33:45.740 --> 00:33:48.359
sell pretty much is everything except the Book of Enoch.
527
00:33:50.859 --> 00:33:52.859
And we sell the Book of Enoch, too, by itself.
528
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:59.309
But King James Bible, best book ever written. Will do
529
00:33:59.369 --> 00:34:06.910
more for us than any other. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
530
00:34:07.309 --> 00:34:13.500
People love, people love the King James Bible. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
531
00:34:13.659 --> 00:34:14.139
All right.
532
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:20.619
Go to sleep, baby. And then what would the other
533
00:34:20.699 --> 00:34:24.250
one be? I don't know. It's kind of, it's kind
534
00:34:24.289 --> 00:34:28.530
of juvenile so don't grill me on this but secret
535
00:34:28.570 --> 00:34:29.389
teachings of all.
536
00:34:29.309 --> 00:34:31.809
Ages oh god now that.
537
00:34:32.110 --> 00:34:37.119
That's kind of introductory okay it's kind of robert sepper
538
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:44.320
101 a little bit um but honestly if someone had
539
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.400
never read it before i definitely put that up on
540
00:34:46.460 --> 00:34:48.599
a on a must read list.
541
00:34:49.500 --> 00:34:53.510
Um Just tell them the Necronomicon, the Goetia. Just give
542
00:34:53.530 --> 00:34:56.739
them all the good, the greatest hits, bro. I had
543
00:34:56.780 --> 00:34:59.179
somebody in my DMs the other day asking me about
544
00:35:01.019 --> 00:35:04.539
summoning demons or something like that, bro. Like, hey, what
545
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.440
should I do to summon something demon? And I was like, bro,
546
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.769
you need Jesus. Like, no demon is going to give
547
00:35:12.809 --> 00:35:14.250
you anything that you want.
548
00:35:14.289 --> 00:35:14.730
Trust me.
549
00:35:14.849 --> 00:35:18.469
It's like, hey, mom, can you buy me that awesome
550
00:35:18.530 --> 00:35:20.730
game that can you buy me that game that I
551
00:35:20.789 --> 00:35:24.340
really want? Oh mom, please, please, please. I'll beg for
552
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.360
a year. Please. Can I just have that game at
553
00:35:26.380 --> 00:35:29.780
Christmas time? Then they finally get the game and then
554
00:35:29.820 --> 00:35:33.599
they go and they open the fucking nastiest cheat codes
555
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:37.820
in the world and ruin the game forever. Like that's
556
00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:41.389
what you're doing. That yeah. Have fun with your fucking
557
00:35:42.050 --> 00:35:46.150
black magic book. Have fun invoking demons and playing Russian Roulette.
558
00:35:46.190 --> 00:35:48.710
Which one's going to fry your brain and try and
559
00:35:48.730 --> 00:35:49.329
fuck your wife?
560
00:35:50.769 --> 00:35:53.670
Maybe both. Maybe you get both. You get the twofer.
561
00:35:54.989 --> 00:35:55.210
Yeah.
562
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:00.219
But yeah, man. Cheat codes. If you ever played a
563
00:36:00.500 --> 00:36:03.099
game you really like and hopped on to play it
564
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.980
and it's just ruined by cheaters. Modded lobbies. Okay, guys.
565
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.730
We're living in a modded lobby. Okay. We're living in
566
00:36:10.769 --> 00:36:13.130
a modded lobby. You ever played Black Ops or Call
567
00:36:13.150 --> 00:36:15.610
of Duty and you join a game and it's just
568
00:36:15.650 --> 00:36:18.659
fucking waked out. The sky is like turning rainbow colors.
569
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.079
The bullets are dildos.
570
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:27.360
Speaking of which, bullets being dildos, how many of you
571
00:36:27.380 --> 00:36:30.840
would tune in to me and Longo playing Grand Theft
572
00:36:30.940 --> 00:36:33.119
Auto 6 when it comes out?
573
00:36:33.980 --> 00:36:34.980
Would you guys watch that?
574
00:36:35.260 --> 00:36:37.000
I think we could do something where we play the
575
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:40.239
game and we do our little magic in the game
576
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.039
and then we do an episode at the same time.
577
00:36:42.820 --> 00:36:45.239
Bro dude I'm 100% down.
578
00:36:45.340 --> 00:36:51.030
Bro that'd be crazy that would be insane but yeah
579
00:36:51.050 --> 00:36:51.909
when it comes out.
580
00:36:52.889 --> 00:36:55.090
You know so many of the videos I like to
581
00:36:55.130 --> 00:37:01.170
watch are like video game playthrough footage but it has
582
00:37:01.230 --> 00:37:03.550
nothing to do with what's being said like it's a
583
00:37:03.570 --> 00:37:07.090
video about something else but they just have like Skyrim
584
00:37:07.260 --> 00:37:08.809
or some dolphin.
585
00:37:08.460 --> 00:37:11.849
Game that's how fried you are bro That's a way
586
00:37:11.889 --> 00:37:17.199
of hooking people in because they need a double hit
587
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:19.659
of dopamine, I guess you could say, where they can't
588
00:37:19.699 --> 00:37:22.440
focus on just one thing. So it's like, here's the
589
00:37:22.500 --> 00:37:24.639
cooking video at the bottom, and here's the top video
590
00:37:24.659 --> 00:37:26.579
of the dude doing the hacks where he cuts certain
591
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:28.539
things to make a tool out of it.
592
00:37:28.579 --> 00:37:29.179
You know what I'm saying?
593
00:37:29.460 --> 00:37:33.420
While the guy is talking about something completely different from
594
00:37:33.460 --> 00:37:34.500
what's being shown.
595
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:37.360
You're an iPad baby, bro.
596
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.250
I was just going to say that. I was just
597
00:37:40.269 --> 00:37:43.469
going to say that I'm an iPad baby. I am.
598
00:37:44.210 --> 00:37:48.750
I loved, I like, I'll let my food go, go cold,
599
00:37:49.309 --> 00:37:51.989
like searching for something to watch and not find it
600
00:37:52.110 --> 00:37:53.929
because yeah, whatever.
601
00:37:54.130 --> 00:37:56.230
I'm the same way, bro. Let's get back to, to
602
00:37:56.349 --> 00:37:57.150
Antilia dude.
603
00:37:57.170 --> 00:38:01.269
All right. So the greater and lesser Antilles. Yes.
604
00:38:01.849 --> 00:38:02.610
I know where they're at.
605
00:38:03.789 --> 00:38:08.510
Well here, uh, Gardner stone, Alan, I appreciate the comment.
606
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.340
I hear you. We sell the Ethiopian Bible. We got
607
00:38:11.380 --> 00:38:12.519
two big ones right over there.
608
00:38:12.949 --> 00:38:18.349
Here. Where is it? That one right there.
609
00:38:22.050 --> 00:38:25.409
See that? The tall blue ones right there. Navy blue
610
00:38:25.489 --> 00:38:31.269
ones in the middle. That's the King James. The thick.
611
00:38:32.469 --> 00:38:36.250
Forgive me, Father. The thick white. Thick, short white ones.
612
00:38:36.329 --> 00:38:37.449
It's called the Pog, bro.
613
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:45.139
Um, the chode looking ones, that's a Bible and the
614
00:38:45.179 --> 00:38:49.170
taller thin Navy ones. Those are Ethiopian Bibles. So we're
615
00:38:49.190 --> 00:38:53.130
stocked up and I don't just, we do the other
616
00:38:53.190 --> 00:38:53.630
ones too.
617
00:38:53.650 --> 00:38:58.250
I got to take a trip down there. We got
618
00:38:58.289 --> 00:38:59.489
to do an episode in person soon.
619
00:39:00.570 --> 00:39:05.750
Yeah, man, let's do it. Um, Ethiopian Bible is it's,
620
00:39:07.090 --> 00:39:11.130
it's good. Um, But for the record, I can't think
621
00:39:11.789 --> 00:39:14.329
of a single thing that's good about it except it
622
00:39:14.409 --> 00:39:17.869
having more books. Like, I don't think anyone is going
623
00:39:17.889 --> 00:39:23.670
to say they are better translations or whatever. I think
624
00:39:23.710 --> 00:39:27.809
there's kind of a whole misconception that older is better,
625
00:39:28.610 --> 00:39:32.239
and the Ethiopian Bibles Bibles that we buy today are
626
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:36.440
not necessarily even older or as Ethiopian as we think
627
00:39:36.460 --> 00:39:41.630
they are. Um, and also I'd like to say, okay,
628
00:39:42.230 --> 00:39:45.909
Ethiopians have the best Bible. Well, what else is Ethiopia doing?
629
00:39:45.929 --> 00:39:47.269
Good. Not much.
630
00:39:47.750 --> 00:39:53.300
So, uh, I'm sure they're very happy with their perfect
631
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.199
Bibles while they're eating mud pies and bugs.
632
00:39:57.260 --> 00:39:58.599
They have the Ark of the Covenant.
633
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.469
Yeah, and it gives them all diabetes and they can't
634
00:40:02.489 --> 00:40:03.230
even talk about it.
635
00:40:03.269 --> 00:40:05.170
They go blind, yeah.
636
00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:10.510
What's the whole point? Is that all they have to offer?
637
00:40:10.550 --> 00:40:15.449
It's like secrecy. We don't know what's in there. The
638
00:40:15.489 --> 00:40:17.679
holiest of holies. Jesus would have loved that.
639
00:40:17.860 --> 00:40:18.119
Yeah.
640
00:40:19.059 --> 00:40:22.780
Jesus would have loved the Holy of the Holies, the
641
00:40:22.900 --> 00:40:25.139
Ark of the Covenant being hidden away from the people. Yeah,
642
00:40:26.260 --> 00:40:29.869
he would have loved that stuff. The Ethiopian, hey, we
643
00:40:29.889 --> 00:40:34.030
were talking before we went live. Ethiopians, they've got the
644
00:40:34.070 --> 00:40:37.590
best jazz, all right? Ethiopian jazz. I'll give them their credit.
645
00:40:38.010 --> 00:40:42.230
But look at what the King James Bible has done
646
00:40:42.730 --> 00:40:47.750
to the world. We have our English language from the
647
00:40:47.789 --> 00:40:53.460
King James Bible. It was standardized upon the King James Bible. Um,
648
00:40:54.579 --> 00:40:58.920
you know, much of our concepts about government that go
649
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:03.019
back to the Bible came down to us through a
650
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:09.019
King James lens. The King James Bible educated the world,
651
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:16.329
gave the world literacy, put England on top and America largely.
652
00:41:17.829 --> 00:41:22.309
Um, Yeah.
653
00:41:23.309 --> 00:41:25.309
King James Bible has done so much for the world.
654
00:41:25.809 --> 00:41:28.489
And unfortunately, I don't think the Ethiopian Bible has really
655
00:41:28.530 --> 00:41:31.739
done anything for the world except for having more books.
656
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.679
And something about those extra books is they're confusing and
657
00:41:36.699 --> 00:41:39.820
they usually cover the same. They usually cover much of
658
00:41:39.860 --> 00:41:45.550
the same content that's in canonical books. So part of
659
00:41:45.570 --> 00:41:47.510
the reason they took it out is because it's just confusing.
660
00:41:48.329 --> 00:41:51.719
It's hard for people. Just like Genesis 1 and Genesis
661
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:57.840
2 can be confusing for a lot of people. But yeah,
662
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:05.489
so Ethiopian Bibles, they usually have Enoch in them. That's
663
00:42:05.510 --> 00:42:11.170
why people like them, really. That's why people really like
664
00:42:11.210 --> 00:42:16.630
the Ethiopian Bible. But alright, I love the King James
665
00:42:16.670 --> 00:42:19.170
Bible and the last thing on that is It's the
666
00:42:19.289 --> 00:42:24.329
only Bible written from the perspective, with the perspective, that
667
00:42:24.710 --> 00:42:31.659
the Northern European people or Hebrews, Israelites, the original Israelites,
668
00:42:32.539 --> 00:42:38.400
or lost Israelites, it's the only Bible that dealt with
669
00:42:39.579 --> 00:42:48.050
the connection between Celtic and Jewish people. So I like
670
00:42:48.070 --> 00:42:54.659
the King James. But Ethiopian Bible, they're pretty good. I
671
00:42:54.699 --> 00:42:56.780
just don't think they're poetic. Like I've never read a
672
00:42:56.820 --> 00:43:00.239
verse in an Ethiopian Bible and like wanted to memorize
673
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:02.960
it or say it back to someone. The King James
674
00:43:03.019 --> 00:43:06.280
is so quotable. The King James is so authoritative. The
675
00:43:06.300 --> 00:43:09.079
King James came up with a way of speaking that
676
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:16.389
is undeniably authoritative and angelic. People didn't talk. When you
677
00:43:16.449 --> 00:43:19.170
open the King James Bible, that's not how people talked.
678
00:43:19.170 --> 00:43:22.059
400 years ago. That's not how people talked back then.
679
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:27.119
Even the aristocracy, even the most posh nobility in England
680
00:43:27.889 --> 00:43:34.070
wasn't talking like that. John Dee also, John Dee had
681
00:43:34.090 --> 00:43:36.610
a hand in this, believe it or not. People like
682
00:43:36.650 --> 00:43:42.349
John Dee, who are talking to angels and synthesizing angelic
683
00:43:43.190 --> 00:43:48.989
revelation into written language, People like that who had a
684
00:43:49.050 --> 00:43:52.690
hand in the drafting of the King James Bible. Okay.
685
00:43:54.809 --> 00:43:59.030
That's where our English comes from. There's angelic influence on
686
00:43:59.050 --> 00:44:03.980
the King James Bible. But, uh, all right, blah, blah, blah. That's,
687
00:44:04.019 --> 00:44:05.059
that's all we'll say about that.
688
00:44:05.099 --> 00:44:06.980
You're getting triggered, bro. You're getting triggered. You have to
689
00:44:07.820 --> 00:44:08.320
settle down.
690
00:44:08.340 --> 00:44:08.579
I don't care.
691
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:10.739
Let's keep the rant to like maybe two minutes.
692
00:44:11.750 --> 00:44:13.550
And then, all right, set it, set a timer then.
693
00:44:13.570 --> 00:44:15.730
All right, here, I got it. So for the next time,
694
00:44:15.869 --> 00:44:17.429
when you go off on, which one do you want
695
00:44:17.449 --> 00:44:23.539
to go next? Uh, is it pagans, uh, uh, vegans maybe,
696
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:24.820
or something? I don't know.
697
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.119
Is that an obsidian scrying mirror?
698
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:29.840
Almost. So we'll, we'll start a timer and when the
699
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:33.219
timer goes off, we move on. Okay.
700
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.119
So it's okay. It's going to be okay.
701
00:44:36.139 --> 00:44:37.400
It's going to be okay.
702
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:41.059
The next rant, I got it under control. We'll figure
703
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:41.780
this out together.
704
00:44:42.579 --> 00:44:42.820
Yeah.
705
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:45.219
Put me in the penalty box.
706
00:44:45.389 --> 00:44:48.329
KJV, Pagans. I don't know.
707
00:44:48.369 --> 00:44:49.130
I think we're 2-0.
708
00:44:50.670 --> 00:44:51.969
Right now. We're 2-0.
709
00:44:52.170 --> 00:44:54.010
Let's see what the next one brings.
710
00:44:56.690 --> 00:44:57.719
Yeah, we need an hourglass.
711
00:44:58.260 --> 00:44:59.739
Yeah.
712
00:45:01.340 --> 00:45:07.239
So, Antilia. Now, an interesting thing about Antilia, like you said, Juan,
713
00:45:08.349 --> 00:45:14.949
People maybe hear the Antilles, the Antillian Islands, the greater,
714
00:45:15.030 --> 00:45:19.800
the lesser Antilles. They'll hear about those. And no one
715
00:45:20.010 --> 00:45:25.239
ever tells us that the greater and lesser Antilles are
716
00:45:25.300 --> 00:45:33.019
named after Antilia. That's a fact. Now, it's debated where
717
00:45:33.059 --> 00:45:36.559
the name came from. Some people say it was Columbus himself.
718
00:45:36.989 --> 00:45:41.190
who named the Caribbean the Antilles. Now, we don't have
719
00:45:41.630 --> 00:45:45.690
too much documentation of that, but I believe it was
720
00:45:45.809 --> 00:45:48.789
Peter Martyr, or one of those other guys, one of
721
00:45:48.829 --> 00:45:59.019
those early chroniclers, who mentioned the Caribbean, the Antilles Islands
722
00:45:59.059 --> 00:46:03.940
being named after Antilia. So basically, when Columbus came to
723
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the Caribbean, he saw... the tropical vegetation, the nice weather,
724
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you know, it's so many things were perfect, not everything,
725
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but so many things were perfect and ideal that they
726
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started comparing it to paradise. So you guys have heard
727
00:46:23.110 --> 00:46:27.829
me talk about Columbus and the Garden of Eden, Columbus
728
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and Tarshish, Ophir, Arzareth, these kind of, mystical, far-off places
729
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in the Bible. But, like I said, his son mentioned
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that Columbus was looking for, and he found, he believed
731
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he found, the Hesperides Islands. The Hesperides. So, and Juan
732
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asked earlier about Atlantis. Well, the Hesperides Islands... and atlantis
733
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are very interconnected according to some they're very close to
734
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each other like the same place um but yeah man
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so the antilles so put yourself in columbus's shoes or
736
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just anyone alive in 1490 they didn't know the americas
737
00:47:24.769 --> 00:47:32.030
were there not officially right they didn't know but um
738
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They had these legends about lands to the west. And
739
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on my recent show with Kurt Metzger, I talked about
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how Columbus kind of shopped around for ideas before he
741
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set off. So all most people know about Columbus is 1492, right?
742
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Going to America. Well, about a decade or so before that, Columbus,
743
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after being shipwrecked in Portugal, after spending a lot of
744
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time in Portugal, actually, I forget the exact timing on this,
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but at some point in his earlier years, Columbus went
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to Ireland. And in Ireland, he heard about St. Brendan,
747
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how St. Brendan had sailed across the Atlantic Ocean looking
748
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for paradise. Yep, St. Brendan's Island. And this was supposed
749
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to be a paradise. This was supposed to be a
750
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place with perfect seasons. Or seasonless, even, they said. Like,
751
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just perfect weather all the time. They could harvest. They
752
00:48:51.889 --> 00:48:54.159
could do all these, you know, multiple harvests a year.
753
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So he heard about St. Brendan, this Irish saint. patron
754
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saint of navigators and captains.
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Amen.
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And yeah, he was looking for the Garden of Eden
757
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and he sailed over to America and some popular legends,
758
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:19.119
some folklore says he came to Florida. um there's all
759
00:49:19.139 --> 00:49:23.420
these theories about where he landed but saint brendan what
760
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does that say like 500 yeah 500 a.d around there
761
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well about 600 years later there's another guy named prince
762
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matic prince matic um his voyage was less Less mystical,
763
00:49:41.500 --> 00:49:45.679
more kind of political. Very similar to Antilia, the story
764
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with Antilia. Prince Matic is in Wales. Prince Matic was
765
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from Wales. He was a Welsh guy. And in Wales,
766
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in the British Isles, around 1100, there was all these conflicts,
767
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all these wars, inheritance disputes, right? Royal families couldn't agree
768
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on anything. And so Prince Matic said, well, my family's
769
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trying to kill each other. My homeland is like a mess.
770
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I'm a prince. I can do whatever I want. Why
771
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don't I just go somewhere else? And he fills a fleet.
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So I think St. Brendan was just one boat. Yeah,
773
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I think it was just one boat. Prince Matic, however,
774
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took a whole fleet, a big fleet, filled it full
775
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of people. And they went out and found a new
776
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land and lived peacefully there for a time or whatever.
777
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They came back. So St. Brendan came back and Prince
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Matic is said to have came back. But Prince Matic
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found something on the other side of the Atlantic. And
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that something was probably the Americas, maybe even Florida. So
781
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same with Prince Matic. There's this legend that he came
782
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to Florida. They say that he landed in the Gulf
783
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of Mexico near Mobile.
784
00:51:14.550 --> 00:51:16.889
Bay. Of America, Gulf of America.
785
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Gulf of America, excuse me. So that's Prince Matic. So St. Brandon,
786
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then Prince Matic. They're not far from each other, both
787
00:51:27.369 --> 00:51:31.929
in the British Isles. So when Columbus goes to Ireland
788
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and England, and he studies, he learns, he meets a
789
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lot of people, he meets... Guillermo Harries, a.k.a. William Harris,
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who would help him cross the Atlantic later on on
791
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his fateful voyage. So I think the evidence is pretty
792
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good that Columbus had heard about these faraway places. And
793
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then also he went to Iceland. So I saw someone
794
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in there said, someone in the chat said Leif Erikson
795
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was the first. Well, maybe. Not necessarily.
796
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It depends.
797
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Depends the parameters of first, right? Prince Matic was here,
798
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I think, a little bit after Leif, but St. Brendan
799
00:52:18.940 --> 00:52:24.059
was there 500 years, 600 years before him. But nonetheless,
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when Columbus was in Iceland, he undoubtedly heard about Leif Erikson.
801
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And armed with this information, having heard you know, having
802
00:52:36.889 --> 00:52:41.050
the faith that there was something across the ocean. I
803
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don't think Columbus would have made these voyages if he
804
00:52:43.489 --> 00:52:47.809
hadn't been equipped with that information. If he hadn't suspected, yeah,
805
00:52:47.849 --> 00:52:49.969
these guys did it so I can do it too.
806
00:52:50.289 --> 00:52:53.469
You know, this, this, this idiot, you know, this dumb
807
00:52:53.750 --> 00:52:57.489
Irish guy with a boat, boat full of drunks, you know,
808
00:52:57.929 --> 00:53:00.170
if they can do it, I can do it. I
809
00:53:00.190 --> 00:53:05.239
think Columbus was at least part, partly motivated by that. Um,
810
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.280
Another part of it is I don't think these places
811
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:13.579
were as phantom as they are said to be. To
812
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some people, I think they had very reliable information on
813
00:53:16.900 --> 00:53:23.449
these places. It was probably just guarded away, kept secret. Remember,
814
00:53:25.250 --> 00:53:29.190
Columbus had to pretend to the king and the queen
815
00:53:29.849 --> 00:53:33.250
that he was going to find India and China. A
816
00:53:33.309 --> 00:53:36.449
new route, new spice route, new way to keep them rich.
817
00:53:37.170 --> 00:53:43.119
Because the Byzantine Empire collapsed 1450. Silk Road and all
818
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:49.420
that stuff was kind of changed hands a little bit.
819
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:55.889
It was harder to dominate that trade. And Columbus had
820
00:53:55.909 --> 00:53:58.289
to pretend, hey guys, king, queen, I'm going to go
821
00:53:58.329 --> 00:54:02.719
find a new route to Asia. And that's what they
822
00:54:02.980 --> 00:54:05.960
signed off on. Now, I don't think that was really
823
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:12.159
what he was looking for. Um, but all right. So Columbus,
824
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he went to Iceland. He heard about Leif Erikson, went
825
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to Ireland, British Isles, and he heard about Brendan and
826
00:54:19.670 --> 00:54:25.190
Prince Matic. Um, now the Antilles is kind of the
827
00:54:25.230 --> 00:54:28.250
cherry on top of this because it has so much
828
00:54:28.309 --> 00:54:32.130
in common with some of these stories. Um, Some of
829
00:54:32.139 --> 00:54:35.969
these other phantom islands. But what do you think, Juan?
830
00:54:36.329 --> 00:54:38.730
I think it could have been Puerto Rico, bro. I
831
00:54:38.769 --> 00:54:40.449
think it really could have. Because if you look at
832
00:54:40.510 --> 00:54:45.969
the shape of this, right? And its relative location. Where
833
00:54:46.030 --> 00:54:47.440
was it that I had it here?
834
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:50.199
So, and Tilly, right?
835
00:54:50.300 --> 00:54:54.579
Near here, it's got that distinct shape to it. I mean,
836
00:54:54.659 --> 00:55:00.389
if you look at Puerto Rico... It kind of would
837
00:55:00.409 --> 00:55:03.530
make sense. I mean, again, they don't know where they were,
838
00:55:04.429 --> 00:55:04.809
but it.
839
00:55:04.909 --> 00:55:06.389
Kind of resembles that.
840
00:55:06.429 --> 00:55:06.809
I don't know.
841
00:55:06.849 --> 00:55:07.329
What do you think?
842
00:55:08.030 --> 00:55:13.130
Yeah, it resembles it a lot. Very rectangular. Right? I
843
00:55:13.349 --> 00:55:16.869
am rectangular. You know that song?
844
00:55:17.250 --> 00:55:17.550
No.
845
00:55:20.829 --> 00:55:22.489
What is that? Disney Channel or something?
846
00:55:23.829 --> 00:55:24.170
Hang on.
847
00:55:24.610 --> 00:55:26.269
And they were way off, by the way. Like, if
848
00:55:26.289 --> 00:55:26.780
you look at.
849
00:55:28.510 --> 00:55:31.510
at this particular picture. So, so the light blue here
850
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is the actual map. And then this is there. They
851
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:37.460
were just spit balling bro.
852
00:55:37.900 --> 00:55:39.179
But again, this is.
853
00:55:39.179 --> 00:55:42.460
Close enough to here to where maybe they thought they
854
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.840
were here, but in actuality, they were somewhere over here
855
00:55:44.860 --> 00:55:48.360
or I guess Puerto Rico and stuff would be down
856
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:54.099
here maybe. Right. So this area here, that's the, this
857
00:55:54.179 --> 00:55:58.909
is Cuba and everything. You got Jamaica and all this
858
00:55:58.929 --> 00:55:59.420
stuff here.
859
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:00.420
The Caribbean, the Caribbean.
860
00:56:00.780 --> 00:56:02.559
It's kind of there. I mean.
861
00:56:05.340 --> 00:56:08.119
Yeah, no, hey, I think you're onto something with that
862
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:11.099
Puerto Rico being rectangular.
863
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:12.219
It's paradise.
864
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:16.260
There's a lot of beautiful places in Puerto Rico. You know,
865
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:17.559
I see it.
866
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.300
I see it looks good, but I don't know. Let
867
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.849
me call my Puerto Rico guy to see what.
868
00:56:23.750 --> 00:56:27.019
He's up to. Although it's a trash island, it has
869
00:56:27.099 --> 00:56:31.030
some of the most beautiful beaches in the world, okay?
870
00:56:32.659 --> 00:56:33.809
It's a beautiful place.
871
00:56:34.389 --> 00:56:36.289
Let me call my rectangle guy and see what he
872
00:56:36.329 --> 00:56:38.909
has to say about it. Do you mind hanging out
873
00:56:38.929 --> 00:56:39.170
for me?
874
00:56:39.550 --> 00:56:39.849
Alright.
875
00:56:45.090 --> 00:56:45.429
Hang on.
876
00:56:45.449 --> 00:56:46.730
Who the hell is this guy, bro?
877
00:56:49.789 --> 00:56:54.159
Oh, come on. Fuck. Um....
878
00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.380
All right, we're just going to have to.
879
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:03.920
I am rectangular. I feel it in my bones.
880
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:09.480
I am rectangular. Vacation and the Antilles.
881
00:57:09.860 --> 00:57:11.840
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
882
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:16.000
Rectangular. You don't like Sean Stevens?
883
00:57:16.900 --> 00:57:23.199
Get that thing off. Does he identify as a rectangle?
884
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:25.750
Is that part of it, too? I don't know.
885
00:57:25.809 --> 00:57:28.170
He's identifying like his own tie right now.
886
00:57:28.190 --> 00:57:32.389
Wait, what? Feel no hole? What? Yup. That's sus, bro.
887
00:57:32.449 --> 00:57:33.449
Feel no hole?
888
00:57:33.630 --> 00:57:35.590
What the hell? Hey, yo.
889
00:57:55.730 --> 00:57:58.429
Fill no hole yeah.
890
00:57:59.969 --> 00:58:04.750
Daddy chill daddy chill bro oh man all.
891
00:58:05.269 --> 00:58:08.869
Right so let's get rectangular.
892
00:58:08.650 --> 00:58:12.550
So again very rectangular i think perhaps he stumbled across
893
00:58:12.610 --> 00:58:17.320
puerto rico because there is an island south of puerto
894
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:19.380
rico i believe it's you know it's on the north
895
00:58:19.460 --> 00:58:21.539
end but anyways um.
896
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:30.780
So here uh These are some quotes from Columbus's son. Okay.
897
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:35.800
This is from The Life of the Admiral Christopher Columbus
898
00:58:37.500 --> 00:58:41.659
by Ferdinand Columbus. And remember that map? You were just
899
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:45.519
looking at this map where it's like the Phantom Islands
900
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:48.139
put over the real world map and it had.
901
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.789
You were just shown it. It's like a gridded map.
902
00:58:53.809 --> 00:58:54.630
Can we see that one again?
903
00:58:54.949 --> 00:58:55.150
Yeah.
904
00:58:56.369 --> 00:58:56.650
Thanks.
905
00:58:58.429 --> 00:59:03.400
So this quote that I had here, it actually matches
906
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:09.119
up to this perfectly. You can see Antilia in the
907
00:59:09.170 --> 00:59:13.099
middle there. in the very middle and on the left
908
00:59:13.139 --> 00:59:19.269
you see chipangu that's that's japan by the way is
909
00:59:19.369 --> 00:59:26.289
it really yeah yeah chipangu not even kidding so that's
910
00:59:26.469 --> 00:59:34.389
japan and um Columbus, or the son of Christopher Columbus, said, quote,
911
00:59:35.579 --> 00:59:39.579
And from the island of Antilia, which you call the
912
00:59:39.900 --> 00:59:44.400
island of seven cities, to the very noble island of Chupango,
913
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:48.650
there are ten spaces, which make up 2,500 miles. So
914
00:59:48.710 --> 00:59:50.050
that's 1571. Let me double check.
915
00:59:52.369 --> 00:59:52.730
How is that word?
916
00:59:59.610 --> 01:00:04.010
I don't know if the timing works on that, but whatever. 1571-ish.
917
01:00:04.230 --> 01:00:07.650
Columbus's kids were pretty old by then. But they wrote
918
01:00:07.670 --> 01:00:09.949
that down, and they knew the Americas were here. They
919
01:00:09.989 --> 01:00:13.730
knew the Caribbean was there. They knew what Puerto Rico was,
920
01:00:13.809 --> 01:00:20.949
and they were still saying Antilia. Like Antilia's halfway to Japan. Well,
921
01:00:20.969 --> 01:00:24.639
they're kind of forgetting about America. Again, I don't have
922
01:00:24.739 --> 01:00:28.789
the whole context there on that excerpt, but... There is
923
01:00:28.849 --> 01:00:35.010
another interesting... Another interesting....
924
01:00:36.940 --> 01:00:41.079
Yeah, they were way off, huh? By a lot.
925
01:00:43.860 --> 01:00:50.699
So here, this is what... This is what his son
926
01:00:50.739 --> 01:00:52.630
said about the Hesperides. Okay.
927
01:00:53.690 --> 01:00:54.380
It is 40 days....
928
01:00:56.010 --> 01:00:59.809
It is 40 days sailing across the Atlantic to the
929
01:00:59.869 --> 01:01:07.690
Hesperides Islands, which the Admiral Christopher Columbus doubted not were
930
01:01:07.889 --> 01:01:14.510
the Indies. So right there it says, Columbus's own son says,
931
01:01:15.699 --> 01:01:19.260
the Hesperidian Islands, which were also called the Atlantean Islands,
932
01:01:19.380 --> 01:01:22.960
by the way, the Atlantides Islands. They were supposed to
933
01:01:22.980 --> 01:01:26.940
be a chain of islands either halfway to or right
934
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:36.309
before you got to Atlantis. And yeah, so Columbus's own
935
01:01:36.409 --> 01:01:41.869
son is saying Columbus found the Indies, the West Indies,
936
01:01:43.190 --> 01:01:50.000
but he also believed they were the Hesperides. Isn't that interesting?
937
01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:55.349
Hesperides. Hesperides. Hesperides being a mythological place, right? Yeah.
938
01:01:55.690 --> 01:02:01.150
Yeah, it's like Atlantis. The Hesperidian Islands were named for
939
01:02:01.190 --> 01:02:06.789
the Garden of Hesperides. Hesperides is probably the origin of
940
01:02:06.849 --> 01:02:17.760
the word paradise. Hesperides. Paradise. Paradise. Paradise. So Hesperides, it's
941
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:22.409
a garden. There's trees with fruit. there's a dragon slash
942
01:02:23.190 --> 01:02:26.650
serpent that lives in the garden. Instead of one woman,
943
01:02:27.610 --> 01:02:33.880
there's multiple women. There are sometimes three, sometimes seven, but
944
01:02:33.889 --> 01:02:36.639
they were the Hesperides and the women were called the
945
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:42.519
Atlantides because, uh, they lived next to Atlas or they
946
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:46.780
had a lot to do with Atlas. Who's, you know, the, uh,
947
01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:52.719
patron god of Atlantis, I guess. Maybe Neptune, I forget.
948
01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:59.659
But Atlantis takes its name in part from Atlas. And
949
01:02:59.820 --> 01:03:03.489
Atlas also kind of presided over or was involved with
950
01:03:03.530 --> 01:03:07.710
the Garden of Hesperides and hence they were called the Atlantides.
951
01:03:10.230 --> 01:03:13.610
Right here. A blissful garden in a far western corner
952
01:03:13.630 --> 01:03:14.150
of the world.
953
01:03:14.809 --> 01:03:15.530
Yep, they were far.
954
01:03:15.610 --> 01:03:20.070
Located near The Atlas Mountains in North Africa at the
955
01:03:20.130 --> 01:03:24.889
edge of the world encircling... Of the world encircling ocean
956
01:03:24.929 --> 01:03:33.449
of Oceanus. So... Huh. Because you're absolutely right. They did
957
01:03:33.489 --> 01:03:38.760
know where Puerto Rico was. Yet they still... Because this is...
958
01:03:38.300 --> 01:03:39.780
What you were reading is after the fact.
959
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:40.800
Right?
960
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:45.159
After Juan Ponce de Leon was the governor of Puerto
961
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:48.980
Rico and all that stuff. And they still claim that
962
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:55.380
it was a place. So they can't have it confused.
963
01:03:55.420 --> 01:03:58.019
I would understand it was before, but then still after?
964
01:03:58.039 --> 01:03:59.500
That's weird, bro. Yeah.
965
01:03:59.860 --> 01:04:02.820
Well, see, I think the Hesperides thing might give us
966
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:07.090
a clue there because Columbus had discovered the Indies or
967
01:04:07.110 --> 01:04:10.489
the West Indies was living there and he still referred
968
01:04:10.510 --> 01:04:13.190
to them as the Hesperides. You know what I mean?
969
01:04:14.090 --> 01:04:18.050
So maybe they're just using Antilia even though They know
970
01:04:18.070 --> 01:04:20.289
where it is. Maybe they're just saying Antilia because it's
971
01:04:20.670 --> 01:04:22.510
cooler than saying Puerto Rico. I don't know.
972
01:04:22.829 --> 01:04:23.690
Yeah, probably.
973
01:04:23.769 --> 01:04:24.269
You're probably right.
974
01:04:25.329 --> 01:04:29.550
But yeah, you know, the shape of Antilia and Puerto
975
01:04:29.570 --> 01:04:35.139
Rico is pretty eerie, eerily similar. My only caveat to
976
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:39.260
that would be, well, when you're making up an island
977
01:04:39.300 --> 01:04:42.000
from scratch, like, are you going to make this like
978
01:04:42.139 --> 01:04:44.179
weird shape? You know, are you going to be like, oh,
979
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:47.079
there's a there's a coast over here and there's mountains
980
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:49.099
over here. Or you're just going to be like, alright,
981
01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:50.420
we don't know what the fuck this looks like.
982
01:04:51.139 --> 01:04:51.380
Boom.
983
01:04:51.659 --> 01:04:52.900
Rectangle. Moving on.
984
01:04:53.099 --> 01:04:56.079
Well, the thing is, bro, Puerto Rico is really small.
985
01:04:56.940 --> 01:04:59.610
So when you're coming up on it, you could probably
986
01:05:00.429 --> 01:05:03.289
see a large portion of it. You know, you can
987
01:05:03.309 --> 01:05:05.750
travel around Puerto Rico in three and a half, four hours.
988
01:05:06.210 --> 01:05:06.389
Yeah.
989
01:05:06.869 --> 01:05:09.269
You know what else I like here about the shape?
990
01:05:09.909 --> 01:05:12.530
And we were talking before about maybe some symbolism being
991
01:05:12.570 --> 01:05:18.869
attached to these places. You'll notice there's there's inlets or
992
01:05:18.909 --> 01:05:19.989
like little bays.
993
01:05:20.010 --> 01:05:20.889
There's seven of them.
994
01:05:21.650 --> 01:05:25.150
There's seven, exactly. And I assume that there is a
995
01:05:25.230 --> 01:05:29.070
city on each of those ports or bays, right? And
996
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:36.440
Antilia was called the Island of Seven Cities. The Island
997
01:05:36.460 --> 01:05:39.980
of Seven Cities. Let's go to the Antilia Wikipedia. Let's
998
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:40.559
read around.
999
01:05:42.570 --> 01:05:45.030
There you go. The Antilia is a phantom island that
1000
01:05:45.050 --> 01:05:48.840
was reputed During the 15th century, yada, yada, yada. All right,
1001
01:05:48.860 --> 01:05:51.860
so seeking to flee from the Muslim conquerors, seven Christian,
1002
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:56.320
busy Gothic bishops embarked with their flock of ships. So
1003
01:05:56.380 --> 01:06:01.690
maybe it's got seven because of the seven bishops. Yeah.
1004
01:06:02.250 --> 01:06:05.030
And then they founded seven settlements. So there you go.
1005
01:06:05.050 --> 01:06:08.610
We got the seven settlements there. And then it makes
1006
01:06:08.659 --> 01:06:13.989
its first appearance in 1424. Okay. Therefore, it routinely appeared
1007
01:06:14.030 --> 01:06:18.469
in most nautical charts of the 15th century. After 1492
1008
01:06:18.469 --> 01:06:20.949
and the North Atlantic Ocean began to be routinely sailed
1009
01:06:20.989 --> 01:06:25.159
and became more accurately mapped, depictions of Antilia gradually disappeared.
1010
01:06:26.059 --> 01:06:33.239
It nonetheless lent its name to the Spanish Antilles. So, yeah,
1011
01:06:33.500 --> 01:06:42.469
it's got the seven in there. Esoteric. What else? You
1012
01:06:42.489 --> 01:06:45.309
want to talk about these guys real quick? The Pizzagate brothers?
1013
01:06:45.989 --> 01:06:47.420
Are we allowed to say that on YouTube now?
1014
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:49.860
I think so, yeah. I think it's all good.
1015
01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:54.239
Sorry. Yeah, we can save them for later, because I
1016
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:58.860
have some connections here with some other stuff with them. So... Okay.
1017
01:07:00.190 --> 01:07:03.349
Well, yeah, you know, that island, Antilles, now on, the
1018
01:07:03.409 --> 01:07:05.550
only thing maybe that kind of throws a wrench in
1019
01:07:05.590 --> 01:07:08.289
the theory that the shape lines up with Puerto Rico
1020
01:07:08.369 --> 01:07:11.199
is there's that other island, too, which is also rectangular.
1021
01:07:12.179 --> 01:07:14.889
slightly north of it so I don't know maybe that
1022
01:07:14.949 --> 01:07:22.869
one's Cuba or something Royo they're rolloing some cigars over
1023
01:07:22.889 --> 01:07:23.849
there in Cuba.
1024
01:07:24.210 --> 01:07:30.110
Yeah some Cuban cigars Royo or Roylo.
1025
01:07:30.750 --> 01:07:33.389
What does Royo mean does that mean like red or pink.
1026
01:07:33.730 --> 01:07:37.940
No Royo means roll like rolled.
1027
01:07:37.940 --> 01:07:41.250
Like rolled okay So they'd be rolling that shit up, yo.
1028
01:07:41.269 --> 01:07:42.860
They smoking it down over there.
1029
01:07:43.110 --> 01:07:45.280
They'd be rolling that shit up.
1030
01:07:46.019 --> 01:07:48.940
That Wiz Khalifa island over there.
1031
01:07:50.460 --> 01:07:53.219
Is there anything on what was on the island as
1032
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:54.079
far as like.
1033
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:57.659
That's that Isla Khalifa, all right?
1034
01:07:59.889 --> 01:08:02.469
Let's see here. Because a lot of these islands, for example,
1035
01:08:03.230 --> 01:08:05.090
and I'm scared to say this one out loud, but
1036
01:08:05.130 --> 01:08:09.349
the Rupes Negra, if that's how you say it, Was
1037
01:08:09.449 --> 01:08:15.380
the Black Cliff, another phantom island called the Black Rock,
1038
01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:22.720
located at the North Pole, described by Mercator as 33
1039
01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:24.420
French miles in size.
1040
01:08:25.140 --> 01:08:26.899
And it's interesting because.
1041
01:08:26.970 --> 01:08:28.090
How many Rogans is that?
1042
01:08:28.810 --> 01:08:30.949
That's a lot of Rogans. That's about 33,000 Rogans.
1043
01:08:30.970 --> 01:08:37.350
Yeah. All right. And it's interesting because him and John
1044
01:08:37.390 --> 01:08:40.350
Dee were very close. They were friends. They were buddies.
1045
01:08:40.899 --> 01:08:41.880
And they studied together.
1046
01:08:42.819 --> 01:08:46.899
And he describes this island to him. Now, I think
1047
01:08:46.939 --> 01:08:47.359
it's a code.
1048
01:08:47.380 --> 01:08:48.819
Yeah, see, exactly.
1049
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:49.800
Exactly.
1050
01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:51.539
That's like what we were trying to say earlier on.
1051
01:08:51.739 --> 01:08:58.880
It's like they use they use these concepts almost as like, uh,
1052
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:03.420
opportunities to like flex on each other or like, you know,
1053
01:09:03.579 --> 01:09:06.979
you did your Atlanta Smith. Well, I know this Island
1054
01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:12.600
and it has 33 miles long. It's, it's, it's a,
1055
01:09:13.180 --> 01:09:18.119
there's seven cities. Ooh, it's like, And then it's like, wink, wink.
1056
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:20.779
What'd you call it? Let's call it the rupes negro.
1057
01:09:20.819 --> 01:09:21.500
What'd you call me?
1058
01:09:23.619 --> 01:09:27.560
Rufy's negro. All right, that's what we're calling it.
1059
01:09:27.659 --> 01:09:31.520
So he writes to him, and in the midst of
1060
01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.890
four countries is a whirlpool into which they're empty, these
1061
01:09:35.010 --> 01:09:37.829
four in-drawing seas which divide the north.
1062
01:09:38.409 --> 01:09:39.890
And the water rushes around and.
1063
01:09:39.869 --> 01:09:43.670
Descends into the earth just as if one were pouring
1064
01:09:43.729 --> 01:09:48.649
it through a filter funnel. It is four degrees wide
1065
01:09:48.750 --> 01:09:51.329
on every side of the pole. That is to say
1066
01:09:51.470 --> 01:09:56.229
eight degrees altogether. That right there is like very Masonic, right?
1067
01:09:56.250 --> 01:09:59.430
It is four degrees wide on every side of the pole.
1068
01:09:59.789 --> 01:10:03.689
That is to say eight degrees altogether. Except that right
1069
01:10:03.750 --> 01:10:06.609
under the pole, there lies a bare rock in the
1070
01:10:06.649 --> 01:10:12.779
midst of the sea. Its circumference is almost 33 French miles. Interesting, right? 33.
1071
01:10:12.779 --> 01:10:15.199
And it is all of magnetic stones.
1072
01:10:16.020 --> 01:10:18.350
This is word for word everything that I copied out
1073
01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:22.579
of his novel. And there's also stories about certain mythical
1074
01:10:22.659 --> 01:10:24.479
beings being on here. And this reminds me of this
1075
01:10:24.539 --> 01:10:29.939
movie that I saw recently with... I think it was
1076
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:36.380
The Rock, Dwayne Johnson. Is it Jumanji where they go
1077
01:10:36.420 --> 01:10:41.039
through the storm and they go through like a portal
1078
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:42.979
and they land on this island? Let me look that
1079
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:45.189
movie up. So....
1080
01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:49.260
No, it was with Jack Black, I think.
1081
01:10:50.539 --> 01:10:51.659
That's in The Rock, too.
1082
01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:55.539
Oh, Journey to the Mysterious Island. So, Journey to the
1083
01:10:55.560 --> 01:11:01.039
Mysterious Island. Damn, this is older than I thought. 2012? Golly.
1084
01:11:01.220 --> 01:11:06.109
It's about Atlantis, actually. But the way that they find
1085
01:11:06.149 --> 01:11:06.590
it is.
1086
01:11:08.510 --> 01:11:12.170
Again, they find this story and this kid and his grandpa, blah, blah, blah.
1087
01:11:12.210 --> 01:11:16.939
Something crazy like that. The movie's just... CGI slop, essentially,
1088
01:11:16.949 --> 01:11:18.619
is what it is. Like, these people are just putting
1089
01:11:18.699 --> 01:11:20.239
out stuff. Yeah.
1090
01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:24.979
But point being that they go through this storm and
1091
01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:27.600
they go through, like, this typhoon.
1092
01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:30.529
Not a typhoon. What the hell is the water tornadoes called?
1093
01:11:30.550 --> 01:11:34.829
A water spout or something like that? And they go through, like,
1094
01:11:34.869 --> 01:11:36.390
a storm and they go through, like, a portal and
1095
01:11:36.409 --> 01:11:40.890
they land on this island and then they're stranded. Come
1096
01:11:40.930 --> 01:11:44.430
to find out that it's Atlantis... And they're right at
1097
01:11:44.449 --> 01:11:46.390
the point where it's going to flood, right? So they
1098
01:11:46.430 --> 01:11:48.350
have to find a way out. But it just makes
1099
01:11:48.390 --> 01:11:53.270
me think of what these Phantom Islands and everything are
1100
01:11:53.310 --> 01:11:58.020
talking about, where maybe perhaps, let's say there actually is
1101
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:02.239
a place, okay? And we can get schizo later on.
1102
01:12:03.060 --> 01:12:08.119
Maybe Occam's Razor says it was a mistake, right?
1103
01:12:09.220 --> 01:12:10.460
They were still learning things.
1104
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:13.770
They were still exploring. The world was... was young right
1105
01:12:13.810 --> 01:12:16.949
exploration was young and as time goes on they're able
1106
01:12:16.989 --> 01:12:19.989
to to flesh it out better and fill in all
1107
01:12:20.010 --> 01:12:22.609
the inaccuracies don't not pull a play-doh where they're just
1108
01:12:22.649 --> 01:12:24.630
filling in the holes where they want maybe they were
1109
01:12:24.649 --> 01:12:26.760
that maybe that's what they were doing right to make
1110
01:12:26.810 --> 01:12:31.720
it look like hey because imagine bro imagine the size
1111
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.039
of the balls you would have to have to jump
1112
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:36.460
on a ship to go somewhere where you don't even
1113
01:12:36.500 --> 01:12:40.880
know where you're going okay The size of the balls
1114
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:44.460
that need to be acquired to do that are quite big.
1115
01:12:45.340 --> 01:12:50.260
You're right. Now, guess what, Juan? How many days do
1116
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:52.619
you think Columbus was at sea?
1117
01:12:55.109 --> 01:12:56.149
I'm sure.
1118
01:12:56.550 --> 01:12:59.189
From when he left the Canaries to when he landed
1119
01:12:59.210 --> 01:13:01.329
in the Bahamas.
1120
01:13:01.449 --> 01:13:02.590
I'm sure I've heard it before.
1121
01:13:02.829 --> 01:13:03.149
I don't know.
1122
01:13:03.170 --> 01:13:04.390
Take a guess. Just take a guess.
1123
01:13:04.390 --> 01:13:05.250
40 days.
1124
01:13:07.010 --> 01:13:10.640
Almost there. It's on screen right now.
1125
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:11.739
30, 33.
1126
01:13:11.739 --> 01:13:12.279
Yes, sir.
1127
01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:13.220
No way.
1128
01:13:13.260 --> 01:13:14.079
No, there's no way.
1129
01:13:14.140 --> 01:13:15.479
Really? Yeah. Yep.
1130
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:16.520
Search.
1131
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:19.359
How many days was Columbus at sea?
1132
01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:27.729
33 to 34. Wow, bro. Hold on. Hold on. I
1133
01:13:27.750 --> 01:13:28.789
said 33 to 34. More like 33.
1134
01:13:28.789 --> 01:13:30.109
Illuminati confirmed.
1135
01:13:35.970 --> 01:13:37.170
Oh, man.
1136
01:13:37.529 --> 01:13:41.810
August 3rd. Hey, we just passed the anniversary.
1137
01:13:42.350 --> 01:13:42.890
Hold on.
1138
01:13:43.789 --> 01:13:46.310
He departed on August 3rd.
1139
01:13:47.390 --> 01:13:47.649
Yeah.
1140
01:13:48.149 --> 01:13:48.390
Wait.
1141
01:13:50.489 --> 01:13:50.949
Left Spain.
1142
01:13:52.300 --> 01:13:52.859
August 3rd.
1143
01:13:52.859 --> 01:13:55.420
1492. No. Okay.
1144
01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:58.000
Well, hang on here. Sorry. He lands in the Canaries
1145
01:13:58.840 --> 01:13:59.880
and then he takes off.
1146
01:14:00.659 --> 01:14:01.199
Okay. Okay.
1147
01:14:01.220 --> 01:14:01.619
I got you.
1148
01:14:01.899 --> 01:14:04.760
He left Spain and then he stops in the Canaries.
1149
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:08.710
And spends a decent amount of time. Then he took off.
1150
01:14:08.850 --> 01:14:14.229
And then it was 33 days. So, pretty interesting. That
1151
01:14:14.409 --> 01:14:15.270
is interesting.
1152
01:14:15.489 --> 01:14:22.229
Again, and he was a Brazilian. So, maybe where it
1153
01:14:22.270 --> 01:14:25.609
gets into this trying to find the Holy Land. But
1154
01:14:25.750 --> 01:14:28.710
the point I was trying to make was, and I
1155
01:14:28.729 --> 01:14:30.729
don't know if you know this or not, were these
1156
01:14:30.789 --> 01:14:32.710
guys like rock stars when they got back?
1157
01:14:32.750 --> 01:14:33.170
Were they.
1158
01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:37.659
famous were they rich were they like what was the
1159
01:14:37.779 --> 01:14:41.060
feel because if think about it you see this guy
1160
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:43.890
who just came back and and you know people come
1161
01:14:43.930 --> 01:14:47.810
back from war they're telling they're telling stories about all
1162
01:14:47.829 --> 01:14:50.850
this craziness that they experienced in war i can imagine
1163
01:14:50.890 --> 01:14:53.689
these guys were coming back and telling these over exaggerated
1164
01:14:53.750 --> 01:14:58.130
stories meanwhile you know they were butt pirates the whole
1165
01:14:58.170 --> 01:15:00.590
time and they were bored as hell the entire time
1166
01:15:00.609 --> 01:15:02.329
but when they come back like yeah we saw sea
1167
01:15:02.369 --> 01:15:06.489
monsters We went to Antilles and there was blah, blah, blah,
1168
01:15:06.510 --> 01:15:09.689
like trying to hype it up to like make people
1169
01:15:09.710 --> 01:15:11.909
look at them a certain type of way. Like, man,
1170
01:15:11.949 --> 01:15:15.189
these guys are the real deal. These guys are rock stars, right?
1171
01:15:16.369 --> 01:15:18.989
Were they accepted like that or no? Yes.
1172
01:15:19.970 --> 01:15:26.279
In many cases, yes. Columbus initially, yes. But later on
1173
01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:29.890
in his life, Columbus was kind of, I don't know
1174
01:15:29.909 --> 01:15:32.430
if disgraced is the right word. He was kind of like,
1175
01:15:32.489 --> 01:15:34.590
they didn't want to deal with him. He was like crazy.
1176
01:15:35.550 --> 01:15:36.909
It's kind of like how I feel when I deal
1177
01:15:36.949 --> 01:15:44.060
with John Saxer. Um, you know, like he, uh, Columbus was,
1178
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:47.659
had done so much for the crown done so much
1179
01:15:47.699 --> 01:15:49.939
for Spain, but at the same time, he's kind of
1180
01:15:49.979 --> 01:15:52.979
pretending not to be Spanish. So they didn't really know
1181
01:15:53.020 --> 01:15:54.960
how to feel about him. You know, he's an Italian guy.
1182
01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:58.140
How much credit do they want to give him for everything? Um,
1183
01:15:59.130 --> 01:16:03.890
but also he's probably secretly Jewish. They were pretty hesitant.
1184
01:16:04.510 --> 01:16:08.020
The king and the queen probably suspected that in Columbus's
1185
01:16:08.060 --> 01:16:10.239
own lifetime, he would be exposed for that. So they
1186
01:16:10.260 --> 01:16:13.819
were kind of iffy on supporting him. But once he
1187
01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:16.260
comes back and he found all this great stuff, then
1188
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:21.430
he kind of becomes less, uh, disposable, right? Now that
1189
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:23.789
he's done something for them, now that he's came back
1190
01:16:24.149 --> 01:16:27.449
with something to show for it, he's not really disposable.
1191
01:16:27.510 --> 01:16:34.409
He's not, um, He's not, uh, whatever. But then, um,
1192
01:16:36.510 --> 01:16:41.670
later on in his life, Columbus was kind of shunned, uh,
1193
01:16:42.010 --> 01:16:43.989
from the royal court. You know, they didn't want him
1194
01:16:44.029 --> 01:16:49.680
bothering them. And he did kind of die, not necessarily penniless,
1195
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:54.520
not necessarily disgraced, but people had kind of forgotten about
1196
01:16:54.539 --> 01:16:57.789
him there. The, the other conquistadors were doing a lot
1197
01:16:57.810 --> 01:17:00.170
of important things too. So Columbus was the first to
1198
01:17:00.250 --> 01:17:04.899
find something, but, uh, he didn't really come home with
1199
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that much. He had some Indian slaves, some gold, some
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berries and shit like that. Not a whole, not a
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whole lot to show for it. A couple of years later,
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you know, Cortez was coming back from Mexico and saying,
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I've got, I've got, you know, crates and crates and
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01:17:27.979 --> 01:17:31.460
crates of gold. I've got thousands and thousands and thousands
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01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:33.899
of slaves and soldiers. That work hard.
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They're from the motherland.
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Yeah, these ain't no Bahama mamas, all right?
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Yeah.
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These ain't... These ain't no.
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These aren't Puerto Rican slaves. Those just sleep all day.
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01:17:43.689 --> 01:17:46.189
These are the ones that are... They'll do the whole
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roof right now in the palace just to send them
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up there.
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They'll do the whole thing.
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Yep. So....
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Send them to Home Depot. They come back with a
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Mayan pyramid.
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Yeah.
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So that's just something I thought about.
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Maybe they over embellished certain details, which I'm sure was
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part of it as well. And again, this concept, I've
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got a bunch here too, bro. The Hi Brazil, which
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is another, I know you wanted to talk about this
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one because there are a ton of I mean, all
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01:18:23.659 --> 01:18:28.720
these are tabs of places that are quote-unquote phantom islands
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throughout history.
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Let's read through the Antilia one real quick, just a
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little bit. We still kind of haven't given.
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The basics on this. The legend?
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Let's read the first paragraph first.
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Uh here yeah.
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Just like no go up all the way to the
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01:18:51.340 --> 01:18:57.039
top please Antilia is a phantom island that was reputed
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during the 15th century age of exploration to lie in
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the Atlantic Ocean far to the west of Portugal and
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01:19:05.500 --> 01:19:09.899
Spain The island also went by the name of Isle
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01:19:09.939 --> 01:19:17.699
of Seven Cities. It originated from an old Iberian legend
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01:19:17.939 --> 01:19:24.880
set during the Muslim conquest of Hispania. Seeking to flee
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01:19:24.939 --> 01:19:30.649
from the Muslim conquerors, seven Christian Visigothic bishops embarked with
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01:19:30.689 --> 01:19:34.989
their flocks on ships and set sail westward into the
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01:19:35.029 --> 01:19:40.090
Atlantic Ocean. eventually landing on an island, Antilia, where they
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01:19:40.130 --> 01:19:47.149
founded seven settlements. First appeared as a large rectangular island
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01:19:47.189 --> 01:19:58.500
in the 1424 chart of the Pisigano brothers, Pisigano. Thereafter,
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01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:02.420
it routinely appeared in most nautical charts, most nautical charts
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01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:06.600
of the 15th century. After 1492, when the North Atlantic
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01:20:06.699 --> 01:20:10.840
Ocean began to be routinely sailed and became more accurately mapped,
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01:20:11.399 --> 01:20:16.239
depictions of Antilia gradually disappeared. It nonetheless lent its name
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01:20:16.350 --> 01:20:21.310
to the Spanish Antilles. The routine appearance of such a
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01:20:21.390 --> 01:20:26.270
large Antilia in 15th century nautical charts has led to
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01:20:26.310 --> 01:20:31.640
speculation that it might represent the American landmass and has
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fueled many theories of pre-Columbian Trans-oceanic contact. Remember, you know,
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we were talking about John Dee a little bit. Remember
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01:20:41.149 --> 01:20:46.520
John Dee talked about Prince Matic finding Florida. We did
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01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:48.600
a whole show on that, me and Juan, one of
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01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:55.960
our best shows probably. And Prince Matic went to Florida
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01:20:56.699 --> 01:21:03.079
and the English, or Prince Matic, British, sorry, John Dee, British,
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01:21:04.260 --> 01:21:08.420
also Welsh, like Prince Matic. But John Dee, who's working
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01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:15.550
for the British Crown, he used Florida and Prince Matic's
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01:21:15.630 --> 01:21:21.630
legend of going to Florida as evidence or as like
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01:21:21.670 --> 01:21:27.520
a precedent, as a justification for the English colonization of
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01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:31.859
the Americas. John Dee was basically saying, well, yeah, Columbus
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01:21:31.899 --> 01:21:37.060
discovered the Bahamas. Well, yeah, the, uh, you know, the
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01:21:37.149 --> 01:21:39.000
Portuguese are over in Brazil.
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Oh, well, yeah.
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You know, the, the French or the Danish, whatever, but
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01:21:42.579 --> 01:21:49.800
the English, the British, we were in Florida in 1100.
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01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:51.779
That's what John D was trying to say. He's trying
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01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:55.359
to say, well, hang on guys. Prince Matic made it
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01:21:55.380 --> 01:21:57.989
here first. So England should have the rights to it.
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01:21:58.149 --> 01:21:59.189
You know, like, duh.
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01:22:00.409 --> 01:22:03.409
Um, he was, he was really trying. to make that case.
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And Antilia may have been something like that.
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01:22:10.869 --> 01:22:11.229
But alright.
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01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:15.239
So that's the basics on Antilia. Like Juan said, it's
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01:22:15.260 --> 01:22:20.319
just one of many Phantom Islands. And there was a
1276
01:22:22.699 --> 01:22:28.069
also with Prince Matic, it's a very similar story. So
1277
01:22:28.149 --> 01:22:31.960
it's not the Muslims, okay, but His family was having disputes.
1278
01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:37.779
There was battles going on, all this stuff. And eventually... All.
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01:22:41.180 --> 01:22:41.640
Right, whatever.
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01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:44.600
It's kind of like a similar story. Seven cities or
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01:22:44.649 --> 01:22:48.750
seven kingdoms, a little bit. The Prince Matic story is
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01:22:48.789 --> 01:22:55.890
kind of like that, too. Well, that's all right. That's
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01:22:55.909 --> 01:22:58.699
all right, Juan. Waterloo Bear is.
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01:23:02.010 --> 01:23:05.770
I wouldn't worry too much about what he says about you.
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01:23:05.970 --> 01:23:08.689
Bear says it all. Everything out of sea, bear.
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01:23:14.180 --> 01:23:18.100
Well, Waterloo guy is pretty... He's pretty nice. I've met him.
1287
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:22.720
He's a good guy. But... Kind of unforgiving, I guess.
1288
01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:23.300
Maybe.
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01:23:25.020 --> 01:23:32.390
Critical. But alright, so... What were some other of the
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01:23:32.489 --> 01:23:33.670
islands we wanted to talk about?
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01:23:35.369 --> 01:23:40.470
So I had a weird connection because a schizo, let's
1292
01:23:40.489 --> 01:23:50.359
get schizo here real quick because Antilia, right? You have here,
1293
01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:55.220
this particular part, utopian tales of the fortune islands were
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01:23:55.279 --> 01:23:58.810
sung by poets like Homer, Horace, Plato articulated the utopian
1295
01:23:58.829 --> 01:24:00.090
legend of Atlantis.
1296
01:24:00.529 --> 01:24:02.989
Again, another one of these phantom islands.
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01:24:03.609 --> 01:24:07.029
Ancient writers like Plutarch, Strabo, and more explicitly Pliny the
1298
01:24:07.149 --> 01:24:13.670
Elder and Ptolemy testified to the existence of the Canary Islands.
1299
01:24:14.609 --> 01:24:20.659
So it's interesting that the guys responsible for, again, the
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01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:26.840
first map to ever show Antilia was the Pizzigiani or
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01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:31.109
I'm going to call them the Pizzagate bros, okay? The
1302
01:24:31.149 --> 01:24:35.569
Pizzagate Bros. And these guys, I haven't really dug into them,
1303
01:24:35.609 --> 01:24:38.909
but let's look at these guys here real quick.
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01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:41.300
Venetian Cartographers.
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01:24:42.579 --> 01:24:47.359
Pizzigiano. Only one Z in older sources. They are principally
1306
01:24:47.420 --> 01:24:52.579
known for the construction of the Portland Chart. Portland Chart.
1307
01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:56.000
So it's, I guess, this thing here that has all
1308
01:24:56.020 --> 01:25:00.810
the lines and everything. Right? The construction. or this type
1309
01:25:00.850 --> 01:25:06.180
of nautical charts, 13th and 14th century in the Mediterranean region. Now,
1310
01:25:06.229 --> 01:25:10.000
what's interesting about these two guys is you can make
1311
01:25:10.039 --> 01:25:16.279
the connection to, because one of my favorite theories is
1312
01:25:16.300 --> 01:25:23.680
Twyman's theory on hidden hyperspace kingdoms. Now, if you look
1313
01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:34.449
into Ghislaine, Ghislaine, whoever, Maxwell, you would find that her
1314
01:25:34.550 --> 01:25:40.340
dad actually went missing near the Canary Islands, okay, allegedly
1315
01:25:40.380 --> 01:25:44.680
his body was found later on near the Canary Islands,
1316
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:49.340
he drowned or had a heart attack, blah, blah, blah, whatever, right,
1317
01:25:49.380 --> 01:25:52.739
Robert Maxwell disappeared from his yacht, boo-hoo, the middle of
1318
01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:58.270
the night on November 5th, 1991, And nobody noticed for hours,
1319
01:25:58.850 --> 01:26:02.489
and they finally found him. That's what they say. Obviously,
1320
01:26:03.069 --> 01:26:07.159
that's interesting because we talked earlier or the other day
1321
01:26:07.180 --> 01:26:10.300
when we were on the phone about her having her,
1322
01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:15.800
some people say, submarine pilot license. I don't think you
1323
01:26:15.819 --> 01:26:18.479
need a license to pilot a submarine. I guess you
1324
01:26:18.500 --> 01:26:21.310
can just have one and just do what you want
1325
01:26:21.350 --> 01:26:24.970
to do. And we have, obviously, the Jeffrey Epstein connection
1326
01:26:24.989 --> 01:26:28.689
to this, to where They had some interesting projects together.
1327
01:26:28.710 --> 01:26:31.649
For example, the Terramar Project, right?
1328
01:26:31.670 --> 01:26:35.189
Where it was this organization, but it was inspired by,
1329
01:26:35.210 --> 01:26:39.430
I don't know if you've read this before, to where allegedly,
1330
01:26:40.289 --> 01:26:44.220
according to Ghislaine or Ghislaine Maxwell, an inspiration for the
1331
01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:48.600
Terramar Project came when she was aboard a submarine and
1332
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:51.819
thought she saw a mythical creature at 1,500 feet deep.
1333
01:26:53.789 --> 01:26:57.090
And then allegedly it was a coat hanger. I don't
1334
01:26:57.130 --> 01:27:01.609
know how you can mistake a coat hanger for a
1335
01:27:01.710 --> 01:27:04.140
mythological beast of some sort, right?
1336
01:27:05.060 --> 01:27:07.920
So I'm going.
1337
01:27:07.819 --> 01:27:10.859
To propose the idea that a lot of these wealthy
1338
01:27:10.899 --> 01:27:19.289
elites have maybe actual phantom islands in some sort of way.
1339
01:27:19.369 --> 01:27:24.909
Maybe they have I don't know, some underground layer. We
1340
01:27:25.109 --> 01:27:29.489
got Tracy Twyman talking about how there are various hidden
1341
01:27:29.529 --> 01:27:33.470
hyperspace kingdoms where you can only see them at a
1342
01:27:33.529 --> 01:27:37.149
certain time of day or at a certain time of year.
1343
01:27:38.380 --> 01:27:42.359
And it ties into the Atlas Shrug story that I
1344
01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:44.539
told you about the other day on the phone where
1345
01:27:44.560 --> 01:27:46.760
all the billionaires and all these people go missing. And
1346
01:27:46.779 --> 01:27:51.189
there's a new show on netflix right now called billionaires
1347
01:27:51.310 --> 01:27:53.850
bunker and right before i jumped on i saw it
1348
01:27:54.289 --> 01:27:57.390
and i guess it's about all these billionaires and these
1349
01:27:57.430 --> 01:28:00.350
wealthy elites going into a bunker i i just saw
1350
01:28:00.369 --> 01:28:03.289
like the preview of the show on the netflix where
1351
01:28:03.350 --> 01:28:07.109
they go into this under underwater you know underground bunker
1352
01:28:07.729 --> 01:28:10.210
and they go hiding what's to say that they don't
1353
01:28:10.289 --> 01:28:15.029
have access to again these phantom islands they really disappear
1354
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:17.260
i mean i've never been there have you long ago
1355
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:19.359
i can't confirm nor deny let's.
1356
01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:28.760
And let's be real. Let's be real. So you could
1357
01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:30.199
hide an island today. 100%.
1358
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:30.699
Yeah.
1359
01:28:32.670 --> 01:28:35.489
I get the feeling even when I think about Australia
1360
01:28:35.529 --> 01:28:39.970
and New Zealand, I get the idea. I get the feeling.
1361
01:28:40.109 --> 01:28:43.810
that that's just like that's just like the front door
1362
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:48.699
to like a whole nother fucking kingdom did you know
1363
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:58.140
that no common no conventional mammals um cross this line
1364
01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:01.340
have you heard of this line near New Zealand, that
1365
01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:03.039
no mammals cross.
1366
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:04.439
No.
1367
01:29:04.810 --> 01:29:08.529
There's no normal mammals past this line out in the Pacific.
1368
01:29:09.270 --> 01:29:14.270
No bears, no deer, none of the stuff you're used
1369
01:29:14.310 --> 01:29:17.789
to seeing around America lives past this line.
1370
01:29:18.189 --> 01:29:21.140
Almost like it's a simulation past that line or something.
1371
01:29:22.229 --> 01:29:25.539
And the animals literally won't cross it. There are plenty
1372
01:29:25.579 --> 01:29:27.760
of animals who can cross that if they wanted to.
1373
01:29:28.260 --> 01:29:30.569
They just don't. It's very weird.
1374
01:29:30.630 --> 01:29:31.430
What's it called?
1375
01:29:31.829 --> 01:29:34.689
In all... I forget the name. Someone's going to know it.
1376
01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:36.020
In Australia?
1377
01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:40.180
What's this, guys? What's this line called near Australia?
1378
01:29:40.199 --> 01:29:41.199
The Wallace's Line?
1379
01:29:41.979 --> 01:29:42.680
Yeah, I think so.
1380
01:29:43.220 --> 01:29:43.380
Yeah.
1381
01:29:44.539 --> 01:29:46.670
I mean, Australia is not a real place, right? I mean,
1382
01:29:46.689 --> 01:29:48.090
to Flat Earthers, it doesn't exist, right?
1383
01:29:48.649 --> 01:29:49.529
Mm-mm.
1384
01:29:49.550 --> 01:29:50.210
Australia?
1385
01:29:50.930 --> 01:29:54.510
Australia is a faunal boundary line running through Indonesia that
1386
01:29:54.550 --> 01:29:57.729
separates the wildlife of Asia from the distinct marsupial-heavy wildlife
1387
01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:02.199
of Australia. And New Guinea. Deep ocean channels kept land
1388
01:30:02.220 --> 01:30:03.720
masses separated for millions of years.
1389
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:05.619
Wait, so....
1390
01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:10.420
Is it like an actual line where they won't pass on.
1391
01:30:10.779 --> 01:30:14.039
Yeah, it's like a channel. I think it's the only like...
1392
01:30:13.859 --> 01:30:19.779
I think the geographic or like real world basis for
1393
01:30:19.819 --> 01:30:24.260
it is it's like a deep water channel. I think
1394
01:30:24.300 --> 01:30:24.720
that's what.
1395
01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:25.460
Huxley.
1396
01:30:28.100 --> 01:30:30.840
But Zoom in on that map so you can see
1397
01:30:30.859 --> 01:30:38.699
how weird it is. So, all the stuff... This line...
1398
01:30:39.539 --> 01:30:41.939
All the stuff to the left of it, to the
1399
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:49.399
north and the west or whatever... That is all bears, deer...
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01:30:48.979 --> 01:30:54.859
I don't know. I'm talking out of my ass right now.
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01:30:54.899 --> 01:30:59.020
I don't know. But, like, monkeys... like rats, otters, like
1402
01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:02.779
shit you're used to seeing, right? And then you cross
1403
01:31:02.819 --> 01:31:05.979
this line, and they've got like none of that. They
1404
01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:08.840
don't have any of that. And it's all these weird
1405
01:31:08.899 --> 01:31:18.930
fucking Pokemon animals, like wallaby, kangaroo, koala, fucking the... I
1406
01:31:18.949 --> 01:31:22.310
don't know. What's that platypus thing over there? A platypus?
1407
01:31:23.470 --> 01:31:24.170
Platypus from there?
1408
01:31:24.289 --> 01:31:29.159
Yeah, the platypus is a... Is a chimera.
1409
01:31:29.699 --> 01:31:34.409
Yeah, so platypus, all these weird Pokemon animals come from
1410
01:31:34.470 --> 01:31:39.090
that side of the line. And to me, it's like, okay, well,
1411
01:31:39.449 --> 01:31:41.369
on the normal side of the line, that's like the
1412
01:31:41.409 --> 01:31:41.789
whole world.
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01:31:41.810 --> 01:31:42.970
Oh, platypus, yeah, right.
1414
01:31:44.109 --> 01:31:47.850
Then why is Australia completely on its own? Why are
1415
01:31:47.899 --> 01:31:51.760
all the animals so fucking weird? It's almost like Australia
1416
01:31:51.859 --> 01:31:55.319
is like too close to the other server, like.
1417
01:31:55.180 --> 01:31:56.039
The other Earth.
1418
01:31:57.380 --> 01:32:01.680
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, some weird animals from that server,
1419
01:32:01.960 --> 01:32:05.350
that modded lobby, spill over into ours, you know?
1420
01:32:05.899 --> 01:32:08.670
As you said that, your camera kind of glitched out
1421
01:32:08.710 --> 01:32:13.989
for a second, bro. It was weird. Maybe, yeah. Are
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01:32:14.029 --> 01:32:15.350
you real, Longo?
1423
01:32:16.789 --> 01:32:17.890
Oh, I'm Israel already.
1424
01:32:19.770 --> 01:32:20.130
Israel.
1425
01:32:20.979 --> 01:32:21.489
Israel.
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01:32:23.060 --> 01:32:24.140
Yeah. So.
1427
01:32:24.750 --> 01:32:27.850
No, I didn't know about this, but it would make sense, right?
1428
01:32:27.949 --> 01:32:30.329
So, yeah, because, look, you got the tiger over here.
1429
01:32:30.350 --> 01:32:35.029
You got certain birds here, and then it's just, what
1430
01:32:35.090 --> 01:32:38.029
the hell is that thing? You know, what the hell
1431
01:32:38.090 --> 01:32:38.750
is even that?
1432
01:32:39.630 --> 01:32:42.130
That ain't chill.
1433
01:32:42.630 --> 01:32:47.010
And then you got a poisonous mammal beaver-looking thing with
1434
01:32:47.069 --> 01:32:51.130
a duck bill. That is a Pokemon, dude. That's Psyduck, right?
1435
01:32:51.350 --> 01:32:56.810
Is it Psyduck? Let's see here. Psyduck. Yeah.
1436
01:32:56.829 --> 01:32:57.170
Psyduck.
1437
01:32:57.630 --> 01:32:59.149
That's Psyduck right there, dude.
1438
01:33:00.029 --> 01:33:00.550
Snorlax.
1439
01:33:01.270 --> 01:33:01.750
Yeah.
1440
01:33:02.989 --> 01:33:03.409
Mewtwo.
1441
01:33:04.449 --> 01:33:10.390
So interesting. But again, you could definitely hide an island nowadays.
1442
01:33:11.050 --> 01:33:13.689
Can you really trust Google Earth? You know, all the
1443
01:33:13.729 --> 01:33:17.529
people who find sea monsters and things on Google Earth
1444
01:33:18.029 --> 01:33:20.149
and they point out like, oh, look at this. It
1445
01:33:20.170 --> 01:33:22.010
looks like the head of a snake here. Have you
1446
01:33:22.029 --> 01:33:26.800
seen all those people that? Like pareidolia maxing the whole time?
1447
01:33:26.859 --> 01:33:31.579
Yeah, I hate it. It's so annoying.
1448
01:33:32.180 --> 01:33:36.159
So again, we can propose the idea that, back again
1449
01:33:36.220 --> 01:33:39.539
to what I mentioned at the beginning, to the uninitiated,
1450
01:33:40.899 --> 01:33:47.149
the regular person, the non-elite, no money-having person, to us,
1451
01:33:48.050 --> 01:33:51.670
perhaps we're the uninitiated to them. And they are the
1452
01:33:51.750 --> 01:33:55.119
initiates where they're able to see where maybe perhaps, I mean,
1453
01:33:55.359 --> 01:34:00.479
we've heard the stories of Admiral Byrd in Antarctica and
1454
01:34:00.550 --> 01:34:06.010
the underground tunnels and maybe hollow earth, right? That ties
1455
01:34:06.050 --> 01:34:12.149
directly into Florida as well with the Khoroshans, right? That
1456
01:34:12.170 --> 01:34:15.170
was the name of Khoroshanity, where the dude zapped himself
1457
01:34:15.250 --> 01:34:18.949
to where he believed he was Jesus Christ, the reincarnation
1458
01:34:18.970 --> 01:34:19.569
of Jesus Christ.
1459
01:34:20.390 --> 01:34:23.920
Where they talked about a hollow earth. We've heard that
1460
01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:24.579
before as well.
1461
01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:28.579
And again, that's another form of, I guess, not Phantom Island,
1462
01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:35.130
but I guess alternate reality or something. But no, I
1463
01:34:35.109 --> 01:34:41.130
100% believe that there maybe is a metaphysical aspect to this,
1464
01:34:41.649 --> 01:34:47.449
to where who knows if people say Epstein didn't kill himself,
1465
01:34:48.090 --> 01:34:54.300
maybe he's hanging out with Maxwell on their hidden hyperspace
1466
01:34:54.340 --> 01:34:59.109
kingdom somewhere where only they're able to tap into it.
1467
01:34:59.869 --> 01:35:01.890
Well, you know, if you want to tie it into
1468
01:35:01.930 --> 01:35:07.489
Epstein even more, what's this place that Peter Pan lives? Neverland?
1469
01:35:09.329 --> 01:35:10.050
Is that Neverland?
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01:35:10.369 --> 01:35:10.600
Is it?
1471
01:35:11.810 --> 01:35:13.149
Oh, no, I know what you're talking about.
1472
01:35:15.149 --> 01:35:17.479
It's like Youth Island or some shit like that. What's
1473
01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:21.239
it called? Guys, where does Peter Pan live? Isn't this nice?
1474
01:35:21.300 --> 01:35:25.260
My chat is better than Then ChatGPT. My chat is
1475
01:35:25.300 --> 01:35:28.460
better than a Google search. I just got to wait
1476
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:29.699
five seconds and I get.
1477
01:35:29.720 --> 01:35:34.039
It's Neverland, I think, the place that he's in.
1478
01:35:36.470 --> 01:35:36.789
Neverland.
1479
01:35:36.869 --> 01:35:37.250
Okay, yeah.
1480
01:35:37.449 --> 01:35:43.130
Sorry. Captain Hook, The Lost Boys. So there is something
1481
01:35:43.210 --> 01:35:46.170
to the whole Epstein thing because Neverland was a bit
1482
01:35:46.210 --> 01:35:47.170
of a phantom island.
1483
01:35:48.250 --> 01:35:48.470
Yeah.
1484
01:35:48.770 --> 01:35:49.520
Wasn't it? Mm-hmm.
1485
01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:57.960
An imaginary faraway place where Peter Pan and Tinkerbell and Captain...
1486
01:35:57.859 --> 01:36:01.210
And the Lost Boys, almost like the Island Boys, right?
1487
01:36:01.250 --> 01:36:04.909
And their other imaginary beings. And that's where, dude, that's
1488
01:36:04.949 --> 01:36:08.069
where it gets into Bruno, right? So let's get schizo
1489
01:36:08.090 --> 01:36:11.310
because this is where the hermetic... The Guno. This is
1490
01:36:11.329 --> 01:36:15.840
where the hermetic tradition comes into place because imagination and
1491
01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:20.170
memory take on a whole different meaning. to where you
1492
01:36:20.210 --> 01:36:26.890
can use imagination to bridge, uh, you know, the reality, the,
1493
01:36:27.069 --> 01:36:28.609
I guess you could call it the unreal and the
1494
01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:33.100
real together. And even, uh, who was it? It was
1495
01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:36.279
Kepler or somebody, one of these guys, they talked about
1496
01:36:36.340 --> 01:36:42.899
how thought is quicker than anything we know of. It's
1497
01:36:42.939 --> 01:36:45.420
quicker than the speed of light. You can imagine yourself
1498
01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:48.229
in different places in different areas, uh, Or you can
1499
01:36:48.310 --> 01:36:51.140
imagine yourself on top of the moon if you wanted to.
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01:36:51.159 --> 01:36:51.460
Whatever.
1501
01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:53.479
You just think about it and you're there.
1502
01:36:53.500 --> 01:36:56.859
It's kind of like Mercury. It's kind of like Mercury.
1503
01:36:56.899 --> 01:37:00.060
Mercury rules thinking, but he's also the fast one. He's
1504
01:37:00.100 --> 01:37:02.060
also the runner, you know?
1505
01:37:02.770 --> 01:37:03.989
That's all with the winged shoes, right?
1506
01:37:04.829 --> 01:37:08.529
I think so, yeah. Mercury, Hermes, Nike, a little bit.
1507
01:37:10.489 --> 01:37:14.909
So, could somebody have... Again, he thought we were... Busy Island, right?
1508
01:37:20.180 --> 01:37:22.239
I'm about a bus.
1509
01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:28.550
You say bussy. All right, not bus. Bussy. What the
1510
01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:30.869
hell do I call Bucky's? Yeah, I call it Bussy's.
1511
01:37:31.430 --> 01:37:34.449
And my wife's like, what the hell did you say?
1512
01:37:34.489 --> 01:37:34.729
CC33.
1513
01:37:35.890 --> 01:37:36.909
Let's go to Bussy's.
1514
01:37:38.109 --> 01:37:39.489
Bucky's. Yeah, Bucky's.
1515
01:37:39.590 --> 01:37:39.710
CC33.
1516
01:37:39.770 --> 01:37:51.550
No. He's probably amazing, 100%. So, again, I think it's
1517
01:37:51.630 --> 01:37:55.630
all possible. I think that there are elites with access
1518
01:37:55.670 --> 01:38:01.119
to these places. Maybe there is some underwater base somewhere
1519
01:38:01.680 --> 01:38:06.079
off of Epstein's Island. That's where the real shenanigans went down,
1520
01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:08.899
if you want to believe all that. We talked about
1521
01:38:09.140 --> 01:38:11.960
actual phantom islands that people don't really talk about. Bermuda.
1522
01:38:12.619 --> 01:38:15.409
Bermuda is a known island that nobody talks about. And
1523
01:38:15.430 --> 01:38:19.500
Bermuda is super wealthy. There's a large concentration of wealth
1524
01:38:19.619 --> 01:38:24.750
in Bermuda. Nobody talks about them. Almost like they're off
1525
01:38:24.789 --> 01:38:26.550
the map and they're just chilling.
1526
01:38:27.850 --> 01:38:34.180
All that money's disappearing into the Bermuda. Triangle yeah Bermuda
1527
01:38:34.260 --> 01:38:38.399
is pretty interesting it's like bro American.
1528
01:38:38.180 --> 01:38:44.189
A GDP of 8.9 billion okay 8.9 billion how big
1529
01:38:44.210 --> 01:38:59.079
is Bermuda 21 square miles, $ 8. 9 billion.
1530
01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:04.729
That is wild, dude. That is crazy.
1531
01:39:04.729 --> 01:39:07.029
20 miles is not that big square miles.
1532
01:39:07.090 --> 01:39:07.390
Okay.
1533
01:39:08.909 --> 01:39:13.029
But, and you think about like, Hey, how'd they get
1534
01:39:13.069 --> 01:39:15.560
so much wealth? I mean, use your imagination. They're probably
1535
01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:18.939
holding all the offshore accounts for all the biggest people
1536
01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:19.779
in the world, dude.
1537
01:39:23.829 --> 01:39:26.609
Yeah, I got to go to Bermuda. It's pretty interesting.
1538
01:39:27.909 --> 01:39:28.649
Yeah, Bermuda.
1539
01:39:28.829 --> 01:39:33.170
So it's, well, 181 islands. It's an archipelago.
1540
01:39:33.890 --> 01:39:35.260
See, I didn't even know that. I didn't know it
1541
01:39:35.270 --> 01:39:37.619
was an archipelago. I thought it was one place. Yeah.
1542
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:40.220
A British island territory. That makes sense.
1543
01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:43.659
Man, they still own that shit? That close to us?
1544
01:39:43.859 --> 01:39:50.180
They still own that shit, bro. They still own it. So.
1545
01:39:51.840 --> 01:39:53.640
Let's check out their beaches. I think they have beaches
1546
01:39:53.699 --> 01:39:58.659
with pink sand. Horseshoe Bay. Look at this. Pink sand.
1547
01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:00.479
Look at that.
1548
01:40:03.100 --> 01:40:03.800
That's interesting.
1549
01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:06.670
I'll take the quartz sand, the baby powder sand any day.
1550
01:40:09.050 --> 01:40:10.489
You know damn about pink sand.
1551
01:40:11.369 --> 01:40:13.489
Did you go to Siesta Key or any of those
1552
01:40:13.510 --> 01:40:15.609
beaches when you were over there? You said you went
1553
01:40:15.630 --> 01:40:16.109
to Clearwater?
1554
01:40:16.369 --> 01:40:18.529
I went to Clearwater, but yeah, we just stayed on
1555
01:40:19.930 --> 01:40:21.930
We stayed at an Airbnb on the beach, and we
1556
01:40:21.949 --> 01:40:25.109
just went to Clearwater. Nice. We didn't go anywhere else.
1557
01:40:26.189 --> 01:40:32.439
Clearwater's sand's pretty nice, but, yeah, Siesta Key's got that perfect, pure.
1558
01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:33.649
The quartz.
1559
01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:35.539
That coquina.
1560
01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:36.659
Yeah, bro.
1561
01:40:36.739 --> 01:40:38.319
No, it was still nice.
1562
01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:40.460
I liked it, though. It was nice. It was just
1563
01:40:40.520 --> 01:40:45.180
raining a lot that week. Like two days of straight rain,
1564
01:40:45.420 --> 01:40:47.460
so the water wasn't as clear as it usually is,
1565
01:40:47.539 --> 01:40:52.829
but it is what it is. Anyways, yes.
1566
01:40:53.210 --> 01:40:54.989
So I suggest.
1567
01:40:55.949 --> 01:40:57.649
Taking a trip to Bus Island.
1568
01:40:57.890 --> 01:41:02.750
To Busy. Yeah, we can go to Busy Island. And
1569
01:41:04.609 --> 01:41:05.550
there's nothing on it, bro.
1570
01:41:06.609 --> 01:41:09.760
Just this. A Thomas Shepard came to have explored and
1571
01:41:09.819 --> 01:41:14.039
mapped the island from Golden Line of Dunkirk in 1671.
1572
01:41:14.039 --> 01:41:18.260
As Atlantic traffic increased, the island's existence was less certain and.
1573
01:41:18.220 --> 01:41:20.079
Its supposed size was greatly reduced.
1574
01:41:20.829 --> 01:41:24.060
By 1745, it was apparent there was no island at
1575
01:41:24.100 --> 01:41:29.300
the site claimed, and it was renamed Sunken Land of Bus.
1576
01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:34.060
We've all been there. We've all been there, guys.
1577
01:41:34.600 --> 01:41:39.159
As the supposed area was relatively shallow. The island or
1578
01:41:39.300 --> 01:41:42.689
site of Sunken Island persisted on charts into the 19th century.
1579
01:41:43.250 --> 01:41:46.210
Its existence at the location was finally disproved by John
1580
01:41:46.310 --> 01:41:51.270
Ross and Isabella in 1818 during his first Arctic expedition,
1581
01:41:51.930 --> 01:41:59.539
finding no depth at 180 fathoms, 33, uh, 330 meters
1582
01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:04.600
of course. So, you know, I think about that too,
1583
01:42:04.659 --> 01:42:07.779
where maybe some of these islands, cause an island can
1584
01:42:07.859 --> 01:42:09.880
form if there's like a volcano, right?
1585
01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:12.649
It erupts like a Hawaii.
1586
01:42:13.270 --> 01:42:16.390
It keeps going and growing, but for an island to disappear, uh,
1587
01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:20.369
Was it a sandbar? But then if it was a sandbar,
1588
01:42:20.409 --> 01:42:21.810
would it have been that pronounced?
1589
01:42:22.710 --> 01:42:22.989
Right?
1590
01:42:23.470 --> 01:42:25.510
Were sea levels rising around this time?
1591
01:42:25.569 --> 01:42:26.189
Probably not.
1592
01:42:27.430 --> 01:42:31.810
Hey, man. Something mystical. Like, what's that book called? Is
1593
01:42:31.850 --> 01:42:34.380
it called The Smoky God or The Iron?
1594
01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:35.439
The Smoky God.
1595
01:42:35.460 --> 01:42:36.050
One of those two.
1596
01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:37.979
That's the one about the mountain, though.
1597
01:42:39.659 --> 01:42:42.000
Well, there's another one. What about The Iron Republic? Is
1598
01:42:42.039 --> 01:42:45.850
that the other one? I forget which one is when
1599
01:42:45.859 --> 01:42:49.289
they like, sail into this, like, misty land and, like,
1600
01:42:49.609 --> 01:42:50.210
find a new.
1601
01:42:50.710 --> 01:42:52.069
Oh, the smoky god.
1602
01:42:52.689 --> 01:42:52.930
Okay.
1603
01:42:54.149 --> 01:42:54.670
Pretty sure.
1604
01:42:54.789 --> 01:42:59.130
It's about, yeah, Lumeria and stuff. A voyage to the
1605
01:42:59.170 --> 01:43:04.529
inner world. Emerson presents a purported true account. Again, a
1606
01:43:04.689 --> 01:43:09.090
true account based on true events of a Norwegian sailor
1607
01:43:09.109 --> 01:43:13.260
named Olaf Jansen who allegedly sailed through a polar opening
1608
01:43:13.300 --> 01:43:16.890
into the hollow interior of the Earth. Inside, you discovered
1609
01:43:16.930 --> 01:43:22.829
an advanced subterranean civilization and a central glowing smoky sun.
1610
01:43:24.090 --> 01:43:25.729
Is that the one that you're thinking about?
1611
01:43:25.750 --> 01:43:26.689
The smoky god?
1612
01:43:27.510 --> 01:43:31.710
Yeah, so it's kind of like that. But, uh, alright, Juan.
1613
01:43:32.630 --> 01:43:35.590
I'm gonna wrap it up. Wrap up a little early tonight.
1614
01:43:35.970 --> 01:43:38.069
I'm a little extra sleepy.
1615
01:43:40.500 --> 01:43:43.020
Smoked some extra skunk ape kush, bro.
1616
01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:45.939
I'm smoking that smoky got type shit.
1617
01:43:46.079 --> 01:43:46.539
All right.
1618
01:43:47.539 --> 01:43:53.199
Trying to get. Well, guys, thanks for joining us. Thanks
1619
01:43:53.239 --> 01:44:00.399
for joining us. As we learn about Antilia, very under recognized,
1620
01:44:00.500 --> 01:44:05.539
underappreciated piece of history, a step along the way in
1621
01:44:05.560 --> 01:44:11.239
the discovery of the Americas. And yeah, Antilia really cool.
1622
01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:13.619
Something I guess we didn't get to focus too much
1623
01:44:13.779 --> 01:44:21.680
on is Antilia basically is the Spanish Atlantis, the Iberian Atlantis, right?
1624
01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:29.770
But all right. So got 414 people in the chat.
1625
01:44:31.670 --> 01:44:34.949
Thanks for tuning in, y'all. Appreciate it. And I'll see
1626
01:44:35.010 --> 01:44:40.270
you on Saturday with Merlin, probably. And I'll see you
1627
01:44:40.289 --> 01:44:43.210
back on Thursday with Juan. Juan, what are you up
1628
01:44:43.250 --> 01:44:46.289
to this week or last week? What's new?
1629
01:44:48.050 --> 01:44:50.890
I killed, uh, 33 gopher tortoises this week.
1630
01:44:51.689 --> 01:44:54.739
Mm-hmm. Well, we don't know if they're... Well, no, see, Juan,
1631
01:44:54.760 --> 01:44:57.199
the good thing about tortoises is when you bury them
1632
01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:03.000
under pavement, they actually have an internal, um, like, resp... Like,
1633
01:45:03.689 --> 01:45:08.829
they can basically, like, stay sealed in... This is real,
1634
01:45:08.850 --> 01:45:09.329
I'm not joking.
1635
01:45:10.810 --> 01:45:10.880
Uh.
1636
01:45:11.670 --> 01:45:15.069
Tortoises and turtles can be trapped in a place with, like,
1637
01:45:15.630 --> 01:45:19.689
no food, no water, no air, and they can live for, like,
1638
01:45:19.899 --> 01:45:23.899
ten years. Do you know that? If you build... This
1639
01:45:23.939 --> 01:45:24.579
is a real thing.
1640
01:45:25.020 --> 01:45:25.960
I've seen that. I've seen that.
1641
01:45:26.340 --> 01:45:30.640
Turtles and tortoises built into houses or, like, you know,
1642
01:45:30.920 --> 01:45:35.479
trapped because of a construction, and then, like, ten years later,
1643
01:45:36.119 --> 01:45:38.800
they knock down a wall or, like, pull up a tile,
1644
01:45:39.560 --> 01:45:40.800
and there's a fucking....
1645
01:45:41.710 --> 01:45:42.010
Turtle.
1646
01:45:42.890 --> 01:45:44.710
Like, still alive, you know?
1647
01:45:45.029 --> 01:45:45.250
Yeah.
1648
01:45:45.270 --> 01:45:48.489
I'm sure they find dead ones, but those things can, like,
1649
01:45:48.729 --> 01:45:55.739
hibernate forever. So, there's always hope for them.
1650
01:45:57.060 --> 01:45:59.119
No, I would never kill a gopher tortoise. I'd make
1651
01:45:59.159 --> 01:46:04.640
sure to take them out before we pave over them. Underground. So,
1652
01:46:04.680 --> 01:46:07.970
how long can a tortoise live underground? They can live
1653
01:46:08.060 --> 01:46:16.260
up to weeks to several consecutive months. Yeah, bro. And
1654
01:46:16.300 --> 01:46:17.890
they spent 80% of their life underground.
1655
01:46:18.350 --> 01:46:18.569
Now.
1656
01:46:18.590 --> 01:46:26.369
Yeah, it's pretty crazy. No. No gopher tortoises were harmed
1657
01:46:26.390 --> 01:46:29.850
in the making of anything. I'm just kidding. Yeah.
1658
01:46:31.670 --> 01:46:34.680
Well, guys, go subscribe to the Wan on Wan podcast
1659
01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:39.079
if you haven't already. And Juan did a very exciting
1660
01:46:39.180 --> 01:46:46.140
show with Kurt Metzger and Duncan Trussell, Your Mom's House.
1661
01:46:46.520 --> 01:46:49.409
Hang on. That's not us talking to each other. That's
1662
01:46:49.449 --> 01:46:54.909
the actual Your Mom's House podcast YouTube channel. Go check
1663
01:46:54.949 --> 01:46:57.689
out Juan on a very big.
1664
01:46:57.930 --> 01:46:58.649
Ooh, damn.
1665
01:46:58.729 --> 01:47:05.380
Look at the spider. Ooh. That shit almost... That shit
1666
01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:06.479
almost climbed right on me.
1667
01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:07.859
It almost bit me, dude.
1668
01:47:10.399 --> 01:47:15.859
It's on my phone. So, yeah, guys, go check out
1669
01:47:15.979 --> 01:47:20.380
Juan on Your Mom's House to see Juan on a
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big stage. Very exciting opportunity. And he did a really
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good job on that interview.
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Thanks, bro.
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So did you. I listened to the one that you
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did with Kurt, and it was good. I enjoyed it.
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It was good.
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It was good. It was good.
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It was good.
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It was good. Alright, guys. Everyone, have a good night.
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See you later. Peace.
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Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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Yo, what's up, losers? What's up, everyone? Happy August 13th. Yeah, guys,
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how's it going? We're talking about Antilia tonight. Not many
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people know what Antilia is, but we're here. Let's go back.
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Hang on.
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Oh, hang on. Whoops.
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No other side there we go so on the left
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side of the map there is a little island rectangular
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island but it's a phantom island so today there is
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no island there but this is kind of a representation
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of what people thought back then 500 ish years ago
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um So what is Antilia? Antilia is a phantom island,
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meaning people used to believe in it. There was legends, rumors.
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But over time, I guess kind of people realized it
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wasn't there. But why it's important to us is this
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was on people's minds. This was all over maps before
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they discovered the Americas. So these little islands may even
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actually represent some distant memory of the Americas. some connection
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to Atlantis, something like that. But what we're really going
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to be centering on tonight is, was Columbus looking for Antilia?
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Was he looking for places like Antilia? Did he know
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where he was going? And Antilia is a fascinating part
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of that, you know, the whole Columbus story. But yeah.
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That's the rundown. Juan, how are you doing, man?
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Doing all right, bro.
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How are you doing? Chilling.
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I just walked over here. The Bible class didn't go
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late or anything. I was just a little late.
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Like always, nothing new there, dude. It's fine.
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Not a big deal.
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Well, you know, doctors are pretty in demand.
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The doctor from Bussey Island, bro. We're going to be
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talking about Bussey Island tonight. For those that don't know. Yep.
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And, guys, if you like classical music, make sure to
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throw on a little Bussy when we're talking about Bussy Island. Yeah,
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it's another phantom island.
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And....
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Well, yeah, all right. So, what is Antilia?
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One question, though, before we begin. Did Columbus know about Atlantis?
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Yeah, so... Columbus... After reading through all his stuff, I
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don't think he mentioned Atlantis by name. But the most
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interesting kind of rabbit hole there is that his son
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made a very interesting remark about Antilia and about the
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Hesperides Islands. So Columbus, I don't think he flat out
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said Atlantis. But remember, Atlantis is kind of like we
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all really know about Atlantis today. But Columbus was Italian.
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He was Italian. Well, he's spending a lot of time
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in Portugal and Spain. And that's why Antilia is so important.
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I don't necessarily know if they would have been talking
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about Atlantis so much because Antilia kind of was there.
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They're Atlantis. I like I. After reviewing some of the evidence,
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I think. sorry, Antilia is Atlantis. It's the same memory
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preserved by different people in different areas. So in Spain,
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500 years ago, you probably wouldn't have heard that much
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about Atlantis, but you probably would have heard about Antilia
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maybe almost every day, especially if you're a navigator. That
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being said, Columbus's son talks about Antilia, he believed it
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was a real place. He used it as a navigational, um,
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as like a navigational, uh, like a milestone, like a benchmark,
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like a reference point. He said, yeah, I believe Columbus, um,
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Columbus's son said, uh, if you're trying to get to
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Japan from the Atlantic ocean, he said, Antilia is like
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halfway there. So, uh, His father had discovered the Americas
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by then, but he still felt the need to talk
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about Antilia as if it was actually there. So that's
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one interesting little kind of, I don't know, one little
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oddity about that is apparently this was a phantom island
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because they didn't know what was out there. They didn't
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discover the Americas yet. But Antilia... was still being treated
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as though it were a real place. Even after Columbus,
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even after Columbus came out to the Americas. So yeah, here,
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I'll try and pull up that exact quote of what
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you said about Antilia. Go ahead.
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Both of those comments. What have I been, what have
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I been telling you? Let's do a Bermuda triangle episode.
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There is one coming. It's going to be just about
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the Bermuda triangle episode. And then also we will be
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getting to this because there's some interesting phonetic connections.
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I hope you like pizza.
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So, yeah, no, definitely. And there is a.
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I just did an episode with Professor Longo. from the
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department of magic, the Florida department of magic. And we
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talked about the hermetic tradition and, uh, Bruno and, uh,
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you know, that whole idea, which is around this time, right? 15th,
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16th century on that area. There is this other more
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philosophical sort of thing where back then the occult and
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science and all these different, uh, you know, areas of
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study were all one. And cartographers in particular, which John Dee,
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by the way, was friends with Gerard Mercator. The way
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that you could interpret it after the fact is it's
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very hermetic because they're trying to, in a lot of
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ancient maps, they also had the Garden of Eden on there, right?
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So they saw the Garden of Eden as a sort
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of place that could still be accessed. Right. But if
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you peel it apart a little bit and you look
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at it from the hermetic perspective of understanding the macro
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to understand the micro, maps take on a whole different
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meaning to where cartographers are trying to de-occult hidden places
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and finish coastlines and things like that. But at the
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same time, you could look at it as like trying
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to find how you said you mentioned earlier a memory.
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of Eden to where they were trying to find these paradises.
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But is it a physical paradise? Is it a state
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of being, perhaps? You know, when they were kicked out
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of the garden, it was a state of being for humanity.
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where maps kind of sort of take on this different perspective.
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can get into later. I just wanted to bring that
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up to where it's reflective of exploring the unknown, but
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at the same time, if you look at it from
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the hermetic perspective, it's like discovering oneself as well. The
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macro is the world, the micro is within. And they
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believe that if they could manipulate the macro... And the micro,
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you could quite literally manipulate reality. So there's something to
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be said.
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Maybe these were real places. Maybe they disappeared.
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I don't know. I mean, that's the whole thing behind
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Atlantis too. Was Atlantis an actual place? Was it a
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place in time? Was it a state of consciousness? Like,
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what was it?
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Yeah. No, I think you're onto something with that. And
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when you describe that, it actually makes me think of
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which I've been talking a lot about kind of recently,
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Plato and the concept of a noble lie, right? So
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that's like history. But remember what the two dimensions to
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this world are distance or like space you know a
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map basically right location and time so like with astrology
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you know the the source of all things you know
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you look where and when you know so Plato talked
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about like inventing mythologies and if there's kind of a
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question mark or if there's like a blind spot in history,
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Plato almost kind of says like, well, fill it with
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something good, you know, fill it with something that instills virtue. And,
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you know, that's like where we get the term noble
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lie or whatever. But when you describe that, it makes
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me think of, you remember playing Grand Theft Auto or
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some video game and you start off on one town
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or one island and that's all you can see. Like
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you go to the, you look at the map and
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it's like blurred out except for that one little spot.
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missions or just explore. And you eventually open up that,
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that known world, you know, that, that, that, that is
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like the known world. So it kind of makes me
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think of kind of like Plato saying, well, you go
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far enough back in history. We don't even know anything.
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So you can just kind of insert what you want.
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And yeah, Make sure it's good. Make sure it instills virtue.
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Maybe some map makers are doing the same thing. When
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they see a blank spot, they're like, well, we don't
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know what the fuck is over here. Let's just put
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something in. Maybe some words.
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Bussy Island.
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How does that sound, boys? Bussy Island. You want that
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in there?
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Boom.
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He draws it in. Shape of a penis.
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And, you know, shape.
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That's another thing, too. The shape of these islands, in
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some cases, may represent something. Most islands are kind of amoeba-like,
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you know, kind of no real geometry going on. Well,
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some of these islands are oddly geometric, you know, and
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some of the myths attached to them certainly bear, you know,
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this maybe hermetic, alchemical, secret meaning with the stories that
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kind of explain these places. And sometimes, you know, hey,
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if you're going to create a story, a fictional story,
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or a mythology, or if you're going to create a
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noble lie. Well, you can take another page out of
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Plato's book. Remember, Plato did kind of... Plato kind of
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started the Atlantis thing. So, you know, he's kind of
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telling you the playbook, and he's showing you how he
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does it.
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You know what I mean? So, was he lying or not, bro?
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I mean, this guy's a troll of history, essentially.
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See, this is what I think about the noble lie,
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and this is what I think about Atlantis. Atlantis... Is like.
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Have you ever heard the disgusting joke that all these
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Hollywood comedians do called the... It's not bureaucrats. What is
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it called? Is it called the bureaucrats? The... Guys, what's
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this joke called that Bob Saget used to tell? It's
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the most disgusting joke of all time. Do you know it?
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Was it called the bureaucrats? Aristocrats. Thank you.
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All right.
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It's called the aristocrats.
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The aristocrats, yeah.
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Yeah, so you don't need... The joke's not important. Thank you, guys.
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Meyer butt reeks, of course. Meyer butt reeks was on
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the money.
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That's his favorite joke, bro.
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On the money with that one. So, yeah, it's the
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dead baby joke. Yeah, it's like... terrible it's a disgusting
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joke but basically it's the only it's the first example
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that came to mind of this like tapestry it's like
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a tapestry that many people contribute to or pick up
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and kind of put their own spin on it it's
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almost like a cover song it's almost like a song
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that many many bands have covered the Atlantis myth is
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like Atlantis is almost like a challenge okay Atlantis is
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one of those noble lies that other people can contribute.
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And I'm not going to say noble lie. I'm just
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using that term because it's associated with Plato and people.
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I've been talking about it recently. I do believe Atlantis
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is a real place. Now, where does the lie part
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come in? Well, did Plato really know all the dimensions
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and the animals and the metals and All those little,
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all that minutia, all those small little specific details. If anything,
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I think if anything's going to be made up, it's
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those parts. And those little numbers, you know, like Plato saying, oh,
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it's 300 stadia by 200 stadia. Or, you know, he's
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giving these exact dimensions, stuff like that. I think those
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numbers may have meaning. Remember, Plato was like a Pythagorean too.
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You know, he was a bit of a numerologist. Kind
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of like a proto-Cabbalist.
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A Gematrius, perhaps?
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Yeah. So I think Plato probably was sprinkling in little
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secrets and little symbolisms in the specifics on Atlantis, but
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I don't think he just came up with the whole
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thing out of thin air. Now, I bring up that
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joke because Atlantis is like... It's almost like the... It's
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almost like your resume. Okay. like the occult resume. So
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each great occultist mystic, whatever, who comes around, they all
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have a take on Atlantis and they, they're all like
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perfectly okay with just totally like disregarding what the other
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people said about it and just coming up with their
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own shit because Atlantis is understood within occult circles, not
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to just be like a, an old place with a
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single history, with a writer, you know, you either know
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the right history or you don't. Atlantis is like an opportunity.
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It's like a tapestry or like a shared piece of
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art where you can basically prove or show what information
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you have and kind of embed it into this Atlantis myth. So,
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you know, uh, Francis Bacon had his, had his own, um,
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Atlantis myth, uh, Aleister Crowley had his own take on
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the Atlantis myth.
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Let's not go too far.
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Tartaria is sort of like the new Atlantis and a
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sort of maybe not Phantom Island, perhaps, but Phantom... Empire. Empire.
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It was definitely on maps, 100%. Was it a real place?
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Did we take over the buildings that they had built, supposedly...
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highly advanced technology with this highly advanced civilization.
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I don't think so.
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But, you know, some people will die on that hill.
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You have the world fairs where some people say, hey,
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look at all this architecture that was knocked down. It's
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like you've obviously never seen a movie set, right? Where,
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you know, they've done, they can make it look like
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you're in a different place and you're on a freaking set.
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a whole different dimension and kind of set so yeah
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and i'm with you on that i just and maybe
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perhaps let's be real plato and all these other guys
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were in secret societies essentially they were initiates in their
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own way for their time what did it say above
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his school that only what's the saying above his school
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that's something about the mathematical or something or other Only
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those who something.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Let no man ignorant of numbers enter here or something
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like that.
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Something along those lines. I know what you're saying.
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But again, they were initiated. And there was this Rosicrucian
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text that I read, or book I read a while back.
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And the first lines always stuck with me because it said,
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the uninitiated... To the uninitiated, they read the text, and
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I'm paraphrasing.
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They read the text.
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And it means one thing. To the uninitiated, to the initiate,
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it takes on a whole different meaning. Now, what exactly
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does that mean? I don't know. I'm not initiated. But
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I could perhaps draw from that that, hey, they have
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different ways. Like the Oculus, right? The society of the Oculus.
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They knew how to read these symbols that weren't cracked
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for over 250 years that only they could read. So
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that's the way I interpret it, where they're able to
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read between the lines.
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You're right. Well, hey, give yourself more credit than that, Juan.
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I'd say you're pretty initiated.
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Self-initiated, yes.
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Self-initiation.
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Yeah, you know.
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Yeah, 100%. I think if they brought you into a
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Freemasonic lodge, you'd get to skip a couple degrees. You've
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got some.
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Some honorary degrees, yeah.
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Yeah, so.
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Let's try it. Let's go.
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Let's do it.
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Let's sign up.
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All right.
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Let's go.
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Here we come. Well, here you bring up another good point,
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and that's kind of why geometry is important. So I
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looked up the saying and it said Plato said. Let
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no man ignorant of geometry enter here.
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There you go.
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So interesting. You know, we usually think of Pythagoras with
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the shapes. Right. But Plato clearly cared about it, too.
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And that brings us to kind of a whole nother perspective,
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which is. There's these noble lies. There's myths. There's, you know,
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there's mysteries embedded in myths, right? There's all these interpretations
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and deeper levels and secrets. Well, that's one side of it.
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On the other side, I see geometry is the opposite
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of that. Geometry, there is no interpretation. You know, maybe
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you can attach some symbolism to some stuff, but what
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you see is what you get. You know what I mean?
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The measurements are clear. and evident and unavoidable you know
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you can't bullshit your way and and just like come
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up with shit off the top of your head because
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there are rules things only fit in certain ways you
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know and these shapes are uh fixed you know the immovable.
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They're sacred some are sacred bro you got us in
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and that was the whole thing with the pythagoreans with
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number so you can start to attach and take all
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these things and start connecting them together where the shape
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the geometry the architecture that was built on said geometry, right?
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And that's where you get Pythagorean palaces, which is the
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concept of building a building to a certain geometric proportion
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to elevate the consciousness of the people within it. Now
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take that into consideration. Maybe Atlantis was built as a
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whole city in a certain type of way to elevate
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the consciousness within it. And you can, if you can
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elevate the consciousness by using geometry and architecture, I'm sure
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you could do the opposite. Look at a shithole like
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New York.
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Who would want to live there?
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Maybe they're using the architecture to suppress the consciousness of
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people there. Totally.
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That's not just one area, too. The geometry, what you're saying,
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it applies everywhere because so many of these crazy people
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on the streets, so many of these people talking to themselves... Drugs,
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whatever the fuck. I've heard that geometry is actually really
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helpful with helping people come back to reality because it's
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so basic, because it's so, I don't know, universal. There's
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a better word for that.
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It's embedded in our DNA, bro.
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Yeah, and you can't bullshit. You can't look at a
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triangle and and be like, oh, this actually means that,
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and that actually means this, and my family's in the Illuminati,
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and all this bullshit. The rabbit holes don't lead anywhere.
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Geometry is geometry. And I forget whether it was a
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geometry textbook or just having people look at shapes, but
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I've heard, I forget where, that basic geometry and very
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basic math is very helpful to people in you know,
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having mental illness that focusing on these simple, true, you know,
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math is true. You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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It's kind of theoretical, but it's also like a kid
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playing with, with like, you know, the square peg in
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the square hole round peg in the round hole. Like
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it's almost like watching those Instagram reels where it's like
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grass getting cut in a, in.
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A certain with an AI voice over it.
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Yeah, like grass getting cut in like a nice, very
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satisfying grid. Right. We've all felt that feeling of like
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a satisfying shape or like a thing that goes in
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something else. And, you know, people who like people watch
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shaving video, I guess it's kind of like ASMR. Just
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seeing things that are kind of like undone, get done,
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get completed, get rounded out, you know, completed, smoothed over.
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It's like me when I see the gopher tortoise hole.
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And then my bulldozer just goes over it.
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And then it's not there anymore. And it's nice and
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smooth and graded.
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That's the way I feel. You get what I'm feeling now, bro.
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That's the feeling I get every day. When I just
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see the 30 gopher holes and they just get filled
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in with that clean fill.
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It's music to my ears. Joking.
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Joking. If the FWC is listening to me. I'm just kidding.
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I would never do that.
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Sorry, someone's yanking at our door.
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Yeah, make sure not to open it, dude. Maybe they
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want to come on the podcast.
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That's okay. I think they want to come on something else.
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Not the podcast.
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Did you see the.
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What was it?
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The dollar... I think it's... There was a report where
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I think the most place that people have been jizzed
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on is Dollar Trees or something like that. I may
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be getting that wrong, but let me find.
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Pretty good bang for your buck.
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Let me find that.
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Hold on. Let's see. I think they call them goon
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bandits or something like that. The gooner bandit, gooning bandits.
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Hold on.
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Damn, Louis C.K. type shit?
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Yeah, bro. Can you imagine like, hey, dude, I'm stroking it.
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But then the person still comes into the room like,
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what are you doing, bro? Like, who's the weirdo in
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that situation? Was it Louis C.K. or was it the
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person that he told them like, hey, I'm stroking my meat.
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Don't come in here. And they still walked in.
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No, I feel like that's the explanation that he gave
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to like get out of it. I heard he like,
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he literally like threw jizz like across the room. What?
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Like did he ejaculate it or did he like grab
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it in his hand and throw it? Shit, man.
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You're going to have to ask him, but I heard
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that's what I heard, but that's, that's more your specialty. That's,
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that sounds more of the homuncologist, uh, Alright. So, yeah,
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so there's so much we could say about Atlantis and
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the art of, like, myth-making or the art of whatever,
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you know, fantasizing, coming up with a place. I guess
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what I'm trying to get at is, you know, sometimes
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to come up with a noble lie or to come
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up with mythology, you know, it serves to just make
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a place out of thin air. You know, oh, this
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was that place where Everything was good. This was the
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golden age, you know. The golden age is kind of
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like that, too, with with an old time, you know,
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a time. That's kind of what Star Wars does. Did
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you know this? We're kind of going off on a
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bunch of raffles.
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That's OK. It's fine.
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Did you know that the opening the opening line to
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Star Wars is a hypnotic induction?
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And then it starts going... No, no, no.
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Not the music. The first line in the scrolling subtitle
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or the intro title, it's like, in a galaxy far,
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far away. In a time long ago. Did you know
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that that is actually one of the oldest and most tried... hypnotic.
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Inductions wasn't georgio fucus a mason.
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Oh i don't know i don't know but um what's
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uh man what was.
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I just saying about the uh hypnotic induction from star wars.
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Yeah so it doesn't work on everyone but it's a
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really really good way to start a story because yeah
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In a galaxy far, far away.
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In a.
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Long ago, long ago time ago. So basically, when you
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do that, when you say in a time long ago,
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in a place far away, you basically just like took
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our two reference points for like what reality is, like
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where am I, who am I, you know, where, when.
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You take those and you basically just like put them
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in a cannon and just like launch them away and
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don't come back to it. Like, don't explain it. Does
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that make sense?
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Well, and speaking on noble lies, it's like those movies
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that start off with based on true events, like the
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found footage, horror movies where they don't really tell you
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if it's real or not or what. And because you're
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the entire time you're watching, you're wondering which part is
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based on the true event.
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You go what I'm saying? Based on true events.
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Well, which one of all these events that happened in
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this crazy-ass movie were based on the true events, right?
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So again, it's another way of, and I think that's
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why the Blair Witch Project and a lot of these
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found footage horror movies were so popular, because it's something
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similar to what you're saying. Yeah.
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This is a great comment, Carter. That's exactly the goal
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with those type of inductions. It's not foolproof. It's not like, alright,
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I say this sentence and everyone's hypnotized. But Let's think.
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What are those Star Wars, start star trek star wars
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people like are they the most and i'm generalizing guys
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right well no they're thor guys are cooler than star trek.
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Guys i'll give them that start really you think.
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So star trek is like the bottom of the barrel.
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No not star trek star trek's gay i'm talking about star.
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Wars star star wars is good i like star.
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Wars But you'd put the Thor guys above the Star
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Wars guys?
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Hang on.
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You mean Thor the movie or just like pagans?
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Yeah, pagans, bro, from last week.
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Yeah, they're okay. They're cool. Okay. As long as they're
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00:30:10.950 --> 00:30:12.029
not attacking Jesus.
473
00:30:13.549 --> 00:30:15.519
This guy's a boss. Look at his profile picture, bro.
474
00:30:15.529 --> 00:30:16.450
He's got a gator in there.
475
00:30:16.470 --> 00:30:22.190
I know. This guy's a G. Anyways.
476
00:30:23.109 --> 00:30:23.750
That's pretty nice.
477
00:30:24.250 --> 00:30:26.109
So the hierarchy, okay.
478
00:30:26.730 --> 00:30:34.150
Um. Where were we at? Forgot. Spaced out. All right.
479
00:30:34.230 --> 00:30:37.549
So, whatever. Star Wars, this and that.
480
00:30:40.369 --> 00:30:43.269
Way to suspend your beliefs for them, you know, while
481
00:30:43.289 --> 00:30:53.309
you're being initiated into this movie. And the geometry as well.
482
00:30:53.369 --> 00:30:59.849
The geometry serves as a mandala, right? To carry your consciousness. Away.
483
00:31:02.390 --> 00:31:06.029
To a different state. So that's why again. A lot
484
00:31:06.049 --> 00:31:09.079
of ancient cultures used. And I think that the angels
485
00:31:09.150 --> 00:31:13.420
and angles. Connection is there. Maybe it might be the
486
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:18.819
same thing. Because a lot of the descriptions. During John Dee's. Workings.
487
00:31:19.619 --> 00:31:24.160
A lot of the beings were very. Geometric. In form.
488
00:31:24.740 --> 00:31:27.839
The descriptions that they talk about them. So. Yeah.
489
00:31:28.420 --> 00:31:28.859
Definitely.
490
00:31:29.299 --> 00:31:29.640
Anyways.
491
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:38.819
So, yeah. Antilia. Let's start off with Antilia. There's something
492
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:42.009
that we probably should have started off with. But, Juan,
493
00:31:43.130 --> 00:31:47.930
do you know what the Antilian Islands are? The Antilles.
494
00:31:50.269 --> 00:31:51.210
The Antilles.
495
00:31:52.009 --> 00:31:52.230
Yeah.
496
00:31:53.349 --> 00:31:53.609
Yes.
497
00:31:54.970 --> 00:31:56.049
You're from the Antilles.
498
00:31:56.470 --> 00:31:58.839
Yes. Yes. There's the greater and the lesser. And that's
499
00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:00.660
what I thought you were talking about when you called
500
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:03.059
me the other day. And you're like, let's do Antillion.
501
00:32:03.099 --> 00:32:07.420
I was like, this guy retarded? You mean the greater Antilles?
502
00:32:08.099 --> 00:32:09.180
But yes, I do know what that is.
503
00:32:10.900 --> 00:32:20.049
Well, yes, I am retarded, Juan. But I'm also a genius. BarefootBedge,
504
00:32:21.210 --> 00:32:24.109
the 499, says, Yo, Longo, any chance you could put
505
00:32:24.150 --> 00:32:25.650
together a reading list for us?
506
00:32:26.630 --> 00:32:26.859
Yeah.
507
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.920
The Bible. Done. See you later.
508
00:32:33.980 --> 00:32:34.299
No.
509
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.309
I'll put one together. I'll give you five quick ones
510
00:32:40.369 --> 00:32:48.930
right now. King James Bible. With the Apocrypha. Doesn't have to.
511
00:32:49.130 --> 00:32:52.859
But with the Apocrypha, I like. Because then people can't say, oh,
512
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:54.059
they took all the good stuff out.
513
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:54.859
You know?
514
00:32:56.160 --> 00:33:01.890
King James Version with the Apocrypha. The Complete Works of Plato.
515
00:33:03.430 --> 00:33:07.109
Complete Works of William Shakespeare. Those are three big books.
516
00:33:07.150 --> 00:33:12.839
They all look like the Bible. And Seven Pillars of Wisdom.
517
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:14.619
Lawrence of Arabia.
518
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:26.119
And then... The King James Version comes with the Apocrypha
519
00:33:26.180 --> 00:33:26.769
already in it?
520
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:28.940
Like, is there a version with the Apocrypha in it?
521
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:33.230
Well, at times, yeah. But, um....
522
00:33:34.539 --> 00:33:38.019
Because which Apocrypha would you recommend? I mean, there's plenty
523
00:33:38.059 --> 00:33:38.579
to pick from.
524
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:41.579
Yeah, I mean, as long as it has, like, the,
525
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.700
what is it, 13 basic ones. The one that we
526
00:33:45.740 --> 00:33:48.359
sell pretty much is everything except the Book of Enoch.
527
00:33:50.859 --> 00:33:52.859
And we sell the Book of Enoch, too, by itself.
528
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:59.309
But King James Bible, best book ever written. Will do
529
00:33:59.369 --> 00:34:06.910
more for us than any other. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
530
00:34:07.309 --> 00:34:13.500
People love, people love the King James Bible. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
531
00:34:13.659 --> 00:34:14.139
All right.
532
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:20.619
Go to sleep, baby. And then what would the other
533
00:34:20.699 --> 00:34:24.250
one be? I don't know. It's kind of, it's kind
534
00:34:24.289 --> 00:34:28.530
of juvenile so don't grill me on this but secret
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00:34:28.570 --> 00:34:29.389
teachings of all.
536
00:34:29.309 --> 00:34:31.809
Ages oh god now that.
537
00:34:32.110 --> 00:34:37.119
That's kind of introductory okay it's kind of robert sepper
538
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:44.320
101 a little bit um but honestly if someone had
539
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.400
never read it before i definitely put that up on
540
00:34:46.460 --> 00:34:48.599
a on a must read list.
541
00:34:49.500 --> 00:34:53.510
Um Just tell them the Necronomicon, the Goetia. Just give
542
00:34:53.530 --> 00:34:56.739
them all the good, the greatest hits, bro. I had
543
00:34:56.780 --> 00:34:59.179
somebody in my DMs the other day asking me about
544
00:35:01.019 --> 00:35:04.539
summoning demons or something like that, bro. Like, hey, what
545
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.440
should I do to summon something demon? And I was like, bro,
546
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.769
you need Jesus. Like, no demon is going to give
547
00:35:12.809 --> 00:35:14.250
you anything that you want.
548
00:35:14.289 --> 00:35:14.730
Trust me.
549
00:35:14.849 --> 00:35:18.469
It's like, hey, mom, can you buy me that awesome
550
00:35:18.530 --> 00:35:20.730
game that can you buy me that game that I
551
00:35:20.789 --> 00:35:24.340
really want? Oh mom, please, please, please. I'll beg for
552
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.360
a year. Please. Can I just have that game at
553
00:35:26.380 --> 00:35:29.780
Christmas time? Then they finally get the game and then
554
00:35:29.820 --> 00:35:33.599
they go and they open the fucking nastiest cheat codes
555
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:37.820
in the world and ruin the game forever. Like that's
556
00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:41.389
what you're doing. That yeah. Have fun with your fucking
557
00:35:42.050 --> 00:35:46.150
black magic book. Have fun invoking demons and playing Russian Roulette.
558
00:35:46.190 --> 00:35:48.710
Which one's going to fry your brain and try and
559
00:35:48.730 --> 00:35:49.329
fuck your wife?
560
00:35:50.769 --> 00:35:53.670
Maybe both. Maybe you get both. You get the twofer.
561
00:35:54.989 --> 00:35:55.210
Yeah.
562
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:00.219
But yeah, man. Cheat codes. If you ever played a
563
00:36:00.500 --> 00:36:03.099
game you really like and hopped on to play it
564
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.980
and it's just ruined by cheaters. Modded lobbies. Okay, guys.
565
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.730
We're living in a modded lobby. Okay. We're living in
566
00:36:10.769 --> 00:36:13.130
a modded lobby. You ever played Black Ops or Call
567
00:36:13.150 --> 00:36:15.610
of Duty and you join a game and it's just
568
00:36:15.650 --> 00:36:18.659
fucking waked out. The sky is like turning rainbow colors.
569
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.079
The bullets are dildos.
570
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:27.360
Speaking of which, bullets being dildos, how many of you
571
00:36:27.380 --> 00:36:30.840
would tune in to me and Longo playing Grand Theft
572
00:36:30.940 --> 00:36:33.119
Auto 6 when it comes out?
573
00:36:33.980 --> 00:36:34.980
Would you guys watch that?
574
00:36:35.260 --> 00:36:37.000
I think we could do something where we play the
575
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:40.239
game and we do our little magic in the game
576
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.039
and then we do an episode at the same time.
577
00:36:42.820 --> 00:36:45.239
Bro dude I'm 100% down.
578
00:36:45.340 --> 00:36:51.030
Bro that'd be crazy that would be insane but yeah
579
00:36:51.050 --> 00:36:51.909
when it comes out.
580
00:36:52.889 --> 00:36:55.090
You know so many of the videos I like to
581
00:36:55.130 --> 00:37:01.170
watch are like video game playthrough footage but it has
582
00:37:01.230 --> 00:37:03.550
nothing to do with what's being said like it's a
583
00:37:03.570 --> 00:37:07.090
video about something else but they just have like Skyrim
584
00:37:07.260 --> 00:37:08.809
or some dolphin.
585
00:37:08.460 --> 00:37:11.849
Game that's how fried you are bro That's a way
586
00:37:11.889 --> 00:37:17.199
of hooking people in because they need a double hit
587
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:19.659
of dopamine, I guess you could say, where they can't
588
00:37:19.699 --> 00:37:22.440
focus on just one thing. So it's like, here's the
589
00:37:22.500 --> 00:37:24.639
cooking video at the bottom, and here's the top video
590
00:37:24.659 --> 00:37:26.579
of the dude doing the hacks where he cuts certain
591
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:28.539
things to make a tool out of it.
592
00:37:28.579 --> 00:37:29.179
You know what I'm saying?
593
00:37:29.460 --> 00:37:33.420
While the guy is talking about something completely different from
594
00:37:33.460 --> 00:37:34.500
what's being shown.
595
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:37.360
You're an iPad baby, bro.
596
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.250
I was just going to say that. I was just
597
00:37:40.269 --> 00:37:43.469
going to say that I'm an iPad baby. I am.
598
00:37:44.210 --> 00:37:48.750
I loved, I like, I'll let my food go, go cold,
599
00:37:49.309 --> 00:37:51.989
like searching for something to watch and not find it
600
00:37:52.110 --> 00:37:53.929
because yeah, whatever.
601
00:37:54.130 --> 00:37:56.230
I'm the same way, bro. Let's get back to, to
602
00:37:56.349 --> 00:37:57.150
Antilia dude.
603
00:37:57.170 --> 00:38:01.269
All right. So the greater and lesser Antilles. Yes.
604
00:38:01.849 --> 00:38:02.610
I know where they're at.
605
00:38:03.789 --> 00:38:08.510
Well here, uh, Gardner stone, Alan, I appreciate the comment.
606
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.340
I hear you. We sell the Ethiopian Bible. We got
607
00:38:11.380 --> 00:38:12.519
two big ones right over there.
608
00:38:12.949 --> 00:38:18.349
Here. Where is it? That one right there.
609
00:38:22.050 --> 00:38:25.409
See that? The tall blue ones right there. Navy blue
610
00:38:25.489 --> 00:38:31.269
ones in the middle. That's the King James. The thick.
611
00:38:32.469 --> 00:38:36.250
Forgive me, Father. The thick white. Thick, short white ones.
612
00:38:36.329 --> 00:38:37.449
It's called the Pog, bro.
613
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:45.139
Um, the chode looking ones, that's a Bible and the
614
00:38:45.179 --> 00:38:49.170
taller thin Navy ones. Those are Ethiopian Bibles. So we're
615
00:38:49.190 --> 00:38:53.130
stocked up and I don't just, we do the other
616
00:38:53.190 --> 00:38:53.630
ones too.
617
00:38:53.650 --> 00:38:58.250
I got to take a trip down there. We got
618
00:38:58.289 --> 00:38:59.489
to do an episode in person soon.
619
00:39:00.570 --> 00:39:05.750
Yeah, man, let's do it. Um, Ethiopian Bible is it's,
620
00:39:07.090 --> 00:39:11.130
it's good. Um, But for the record, I can't think
621
00:39:11.789 --> 00:39:14.329
of a single thing that's good about it except it
622
00:39:14.409 --> 00:39:17.869
having more books. Like, I don't think anyone is going
623
00:39:17.889 --> 00:39:23.670
to say they are better translations or whatever. I think
624
00:39:23.710 --> 00:39:27.809
there's kind of a whole misconception that older is better,
625
00:39:28.610 --> 00:39:32.239
and the Ethiopian Bibles Bibles that we buy today are
626
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:36.440
not necessarily even older or as Ethiopian as we think
627
00:39:36.460 --> 00:39:41.630
they are. Um, and also I'd like to say, okay,
628
00:39:42.230 --> 00:39:45.909
Ethiopians have the best Bible. Well, what else is Ethiopia doing?
629
00:39:45.929 --> 00:39:47.269
Good. Not much.
630
00:39:47.750 --> 00:39:53.300
So, uh, I'm sure they're very happy with their perfect
631
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.199
Bibles while they're eating mud pies and bugs.
632
00:39:57.260 --> 00:39:58.599
They have the Ark of the Covenant.
633
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.469
Yeah, and it gives them all diabetes and they can't
634
00:40:02.489 --> 00:40:03.230
even talk about it.
635
00:40:03.269 --> 00:40:05.170
They go blind, yeah.
636
00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:10.510
What's the whole point? Is that all they have to offer?
637
00:40:10.550 --> 00:40:15.449
It's like secrecy. We don't know what's in there. The
638
00:40:15.489 --> 00:40:17.679
holiest of holies. Jesus would have loved that.
639
00:40:17.860 --> 00:40:18.119
Yeah.
640
00:40:19.059 --> 00:40:22.780
Jesus would have loved the Holy of the Holies, the
641
00:40:22.900 --> 00:40:25.139
Ark of the Covenant being hidden away from the people. Yeah,
642
00:40:26.260 --> 00:40:29.869
he would have loved that stuff. The Ethiopian, hey, we
643
00:40:29.889 --> 00:40:34.030
were talking before we went live. Ethiopians, they've got the
644
00:40:34.070 --> 00:40:37.590
best jazz, all right? Ethiopian jazz. I'll give them their credit.
645
00:40:38.010 --> 00:40:42.230
But look at what the King James Bible has done
646
00:40:42.730 --> 00:40:47.750
to the world. We have our English language from the
647
00:40:47.789 --> 00:40:53.460
King James Bible. It was standardized upon the King James Bible. Um,
648
00:40:54.579 --> 00:40:58.920
you know, much of our concepts about government that go
649
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:03.019
back to the Bible came down to us through a
650
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:09.019
King James lens. The King James Bible educated the world,
651
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:16.329
gave the world literacy, put England on top and America largely.
652
00:41:17.829 --> 00:41:22.309
Um, Yeah.
653
00:41:23.309 --> 00:41:25.309
King James Bible has done so much for the world.
654
00:41:25.809 --> 00:41:28.489
And unfortunately, I don't think the Ethiopian Bible has really
655
00:41:28.530 --> 00:41:31.739
done anything for the world except for having more books.
656
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.679
And something about those extra books is they're confusing and
657
00:41:36.699 --> 00:41:39.820
they usually cover the same. They usually cover much of
658
00:41:39.860 --> 00:41:45.550
the same content that's in canonical books. So part of
659
00:41:45.570 --> 00:41:47.510
the reason they took it out is because it's just confusing.
660
00:41:48.329 --> 00:41:51.719
It's hard for people. Just like Genesis 1 and Genesis
661
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:57.840
2 can be confusing for a lot of people. But yeah,
662
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:05.489
so Ethiopian Bibles, they usually have Enoch in them. That's
663
00:42:05.510 --> 00:42:11.170
why people like them, really. That's why people really like
664
00:42:11.210 --> 00:42:16.630
the Ethiopian Bible. But alright, I love the King James
665
00:42:16.670 --> 00:42:19.170
Bible and the last thing on that is It's the
666
00:42:19.289 --> 00:42:24.329
only Bible written from the perspective, with the perspective, that
667
00:42:24.710 --> 00:42:31.659
the Northern European people or Hebrews, Israelites, the original Israelites,
668
00:42:32.539 --> 00:42:38.400
or lost Israelites, it's the only Bible that dealt with
669
00:42:39.579 --> 00:42:48.050
the connection between Celtic and Jewish people. So I like
670
00:42:48.070 --> 00:42:54.659
the King James. But Ethiopian Bible, they're pretty good. I
671
00:42:54.699 --> 00:42:56.780
just don't think they're poetic. Like I've never read a
672
00:42:56.820 --> 00:43:00.239
verse in an Ethiopian Bible and like wanted to memorize
673
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:02.960
it or say it back to someone. The King James
674
00:43:03.019 --> 00:43:06.280
is so quotable. The King James is so authoritative. The
675
00:43:06.300 --> 00:43:09.079
King James came up with a way of speaking that
676
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:16.389
is undeniably authoritative and angelic. People didn't talk. When you
677
00:43:16.449 --> 00:43:19.170
open the King James Bible, that's not how people talked.
678
00:43:19.170 --> 00:43:22.059
400 years ago. That's not how people talked back then.
679
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:27.119
Even the aristocracy, even the most posh nobility in England
680
00:43:27.889 --> 00:43:34.070
wasn't talking like that. John Dee also, John Dee had
681
00:43:34.090 --> 00:43:36.610
a hand in this, believe it or not. People like
682
00:43:36.650 --> 00:43:42.349
John Dee, who are talking to angels and synthesizing angelic
683
00:43:43.190 --> 00:43:48.989
revelation into written language, People like that who had a
684
00:43:49.050 --> 00:43:52.690
hand in the drafting of the King James Bible. Okay.
685
00:43:54.809 --> 00:43:59.030
That's where our English comes from. There's angelic influence on
686
00:43:59.050 --> 00:44:03.980
the King James Bible. But, uh, all right, blah, blah, blah. That's,
687
00:44:04.019 --> 00:44:05.059
that's all we'll say about that.
688
00:44:05.099 --> 00:44:06.980
You're getting triggered, bro. You're getting triggered. You have to
689
00:44:07.820 --> 00:44:08.320
settle down.
690
00:44:08.340 --> 00:44:08.579
I don't care.
691
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:10.739
Let's keep the rant to like maybe two minutes.
692
00:44:11.750 --> 00:44:13.550
And then, all right, set it, set a timer then.
693
00:44:13.570 --> 00:44:15.730
All right, here, I got it. So for the next time,
694
00:44:15.869 --> 00:44:17.429
when you go off on, which one do you want
695
00:44:17.449 --> 00:44:23.539
to go next? Uh, is it pagans, uh, uh, vegans maybe,
696
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:24.820
or something? I don't know.
697
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.119
Is that an obsidian scrying mirror?
698
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:29.840
Almost. So we'll, we'll start a timer and when the
699
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:33.219
timer goes off, we move on. Okay.
700
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.119
So it's okay. It's going to be okay.
701
00:44:36.139 --> 00:44:37.400
It's going to be okay.
702
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:41.059
The next rant, I got it under control. We'll figure
703
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:41.780
this out together.
704
00:44:42.579 --> 00:44:42.820
Yeah.
705
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:45.219
Put me in the penalty box.
706
00:44:45.389 --> 00:44:48.329
KJV, Pagans. I don't know.
707
00:44:48.369 --> 00:44:49.130
I think we're 2-0.
708
00:44:50.670 --> 00:44:51.969
Right now. We're 2-0.
709
00:44:52.170 --> 00:44:54.010
Let's see what the next one brings.
710
00:44:56.690 --> 00:44:57.719
Yeah, we need an hourglass.
711
00:44:58.260 --> 00:44:59.739
Yeah.
712
00:45:01.340 --> 00:45:07.239
So, Antilia. Now, an interesting thing about Antilia, like you said, Juan,
713
00:45:08.349 --> 00:45:14.949
People maybe hear the Antilles, the Antillian Islands, the greater,
714
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the lesser Antilles. They'll hear about those. And no one
715
00:45:20.010 --> 00:45:25.239
ever tells us that the greater and lesser Antilles are
716
00:45:25.300 --> 00:45:33.019
named after Antilia. That's a fact. Now, it's debated where
717
00:45:33.059 --> 00:45:36.559
the name came from. Some people say it was Columbus himself.
718
00:45:36.989 --> 00:45:41.190
who named the Caribbean the Antilles. Now, we don't have
719
00:45:41.630 --> 00:45:45.690
too much documentation of that, but I believe it was
720
00:45:45.809 --> 00:45:48.789
Peter Martyr, or one of those other guys, one of
721
00:45:48.829 --> 00:45:59.019
those early chroniclers, who mentioned the Caribbean, the Antilles Islands
722
00:45:59.059 --> 00:46:03.940
being named after Antilia. So basically, when Columbus came to
723
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:09.570
the Caribbean, he saw... the tropical vegetation, the nice weather,
724
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:13.139
you know, it's so many things were perfect, not everything,
725
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:18.639
but so many things were perfect and ideal that they
726
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:23.070
started comparing it to paradise. So you guys have heard
727
00:46:23.110 --> 00:46:27.829
me talk about Columbus and the Garden of Eden, Columbus
728
00:46:28.070 --> 00:46:36.670
and Tarshish, Ophir, Arzareth, these kind of, mystical, far-off places
729
00:46:36.710 --> 00:46:43.300
in the Bible. But, like I said, his son mentioned
730
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:49.219
that Columbus was looking for, and he found, he believed
731
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:57.449
he found, the Hesperides Islands. The Hesperides. So, and Juan
732
00:46:57.530 --> 00:47:05.429
asked earlier about Atlantis. Well, the Hesperides Islands... and atlantis
733
00:47:06.110 --> 00:47:10.030
are very interconnected according to some they're very close to
734
00:47:10.070 --> 00:47:16.809
each other like the same place um but yeah man
735
00:47:16.929 --> 00:47:20.030
so the antilles so put yourself in columbus's shoes or
736
00:47:20.050 --> 00:47:24.750
just anyone alive in 1490 they didn't know the americas
737
00:47:24.769 --> 00:47:32.030
were there not officially right they didn't know but um
738
00:47:33.630 --> 00:47:37.550
They had these legends about lands to the west. And
739
00:47:37.570 --> 00:47:41.849
on my recent show with Kurt Metzger, I talked about
740
00:47:41.889 --> 00:47:46.449
how Columbus kind of shopped around for ideas before he
741
00:47:46.489 --> 00:47:52.300
set off. So all most people know about Columbus is 1492, right?
742
00:47:52.570 --> 00:47:59.019
Going to America. Well, about a decade or so before that, Columbus,
743
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.670
after being shipwrecked in Portugal, after spending a lot of
744
00:48:04.710 --> 00:48:10.719
time in Portugal, actually, I forget the exact timing on this,
745
00:48:10.929 --> 00:48:16.480
but at some point in his earlier years, Columbus went
746
00:48:16.500 --> 00:48:22.420
to Ireland. And in Ireland, he heard about St. Brendan,
747
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:28.119
how St. Brendan had sailed across the Atlantic Ocean looking
748
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:36.349
for paradise. Yep, St. Brendan's Island. And this was supposed
749
00:48:36.389 --> 00:48:41.230
to be a paradise. This was supposed to be a
750
00:48:41.570 --> 00:48:47.510
place with perfect seasons. Or seasonless, even, they said. Like,
751
00:48:48.150 --> 00:48:51.860
just perfect weather all the time. They could harvest. They
752
00:48:51.889 --> 00:48:54.159
could do all these, you know, multiple harvests a year.
753
00:48:56.860 --> 00:49:01.690
So he heard about St. Brendan, this Irish saint. patron
754
00:49:01.730 --> 00:49:03.510
saint of navigators and captains.
755
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:05.280
Amen.
756
00:49:06.579 --> 00:49:09.760
And yeah, he was looking for the Garden of Eden
757
00:49:09.940 --> 00:49:13.679
and he sailed over to America and some popular legends,
758
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:19.119
some folklore says he came to Florida. um there's all
759
00:49:19.139 --> 00:49:23.420
these theories about where he landed but saint brendan what
760
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:26.559
does that say like 500 yeah 500 a.d around there
761
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:34.449
well about 600 years later there's another guy named prince
762
00:49:34.530 --> 00:49:41.219
matic prince matic um his voyage was less Less mystical,
763
00:49:41.500 --> 00:49:45.679
more kind of political. Very similar to Antilia, the story
764
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:53.730
with Antilia. Prince Matic is in Wales. Prince Matic was
765
00:49:53.769 --> 00:49:57.250
from Wales. He was a Welsh guy. And in Wales,
766
00:49:58.050 --> 00:50:02.329
in the British Isles, around 1100, there was all these conflicts,
767
00:50:03.190 --> 00:50:09.389
all these wars, inheritance disputes, right? Royal families couldn't agree
768
00:50:09.469 --> 00:50:15.280
on anything. And so Prince Matic said, well, my family's
769
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:19.469
trying to kill each other. My homeland is like a mess.
770
00:50:20.929 --> 00:50:23.269
I'm a prince. I can do whatever I want. Why
771
00:50:23.289 --> 00:50:27.309
don't I just go somewhere else? And he fills a fleet.
772
00:50:27.409 --> 00:50:31.809
So I think St. Brendan was just one boat. Yeah,
773
00:50:31.829 --> 00:50:35.219
I think it was just one boat. Prince Matic, however,
774
00:50:35.380 --> 00:50:38.619
took a whole fleet, a big fleet, filled it full
775
00:50:38.659 --> 00:50:41.369
of people. And they went out and found a new
776
00:50:41.409 --> 00:50:45.130
land and lived peacefully there for a time or whatever.
777
00:50:45.650 --> 00:50:48.530
They came back. So St. Brendan came back and Prince
778
00:50:48.570 --> 00:50:55.139
Matic is said to have came back. But Prince Matic
779
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:58.699
found something on the other side of the Atlantic. And
780
00:50:59.780 --> 00:51:04.619
that something was probably the Americas, maybe even Florida. So
781
00:51:04.699 --> 00:51:07.300
same with Prince Matic. There's this legend that he came
782
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.949
to Florida. They say that he landed in the Gulf
783
00:51:10.969 --> 00:51:13.530
of Mexico near Mobile.
784
00:51:14.550 --> 00:51:16.889
Bay. Of America, Gulf of America.
785
00:51:17.969 --> 00:51:23.110
Gulf of America, excuse me. So that's Prince Matic. So St. Brandon,
786
00:51:23.829 --> 00:51:27.329
then Prince Matic. They're not far from each other, both
787
00:51:27.369 --> 00:51:31.929
in the British Isles. So when Columbus goes to Ireland
788
00:51:31.989 --> 00:51:35.960
and England, and he studies, he learns, he meets a
789
00:51:35.980 --> 00:51:40.699
lot of people, he meets... Guillermo Harries, a.k.a. William Harris,
790
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:43.670
who would help him cross the Atlantic later on on
791
00:51:43.710 --> 00:51:50.010
his fateful voyage. So I think the evidence is pretty
792
00:51:50.050 --> 00:51:55.190
good that Columbus had heard about these faraway places. And
793
00:51:55.210 --> 00:51:59.360
then also he went to Iceland. So I saw someone
794
00:51:59.380 --> 00:52:01.920
in there said, someone in the chat said Leif Erikson
795
00:52:01.940 --> 00:52:06.840
was the first. Well, maybe. Not necessarily.
796
00:52:06.860 --> 00:52:07.280
It depends.
797
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:16.019
Depends the parameters of first, right? Prince Matic was here,
798
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:18.900
I think, a little bit after Leif, but St. Brendan
799
00:52:18.940 --> 00:52:24.059
was there 500 years, 600 years before him. But nonetheless,
800
00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:30.559
when Columbus was in Iceland, he undoubtedly heard about Leif Erikson.
801
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:36.849
And armed with this information, having heard you know, having
802
00:52:36.889 --> 00:52:41.050
the faith that there was something across the ocean. I
803
00:52:41.070 --> 00:52:43.409
don't think Columbus would have made these voyages if he
804
00:52:43.489 --> 00:52:47.809
hadn't been equipped with that information. If he hadn't suspected, yeah,
805
00:52:47.849 --> 00:52:49.969
these guys did it so I can do it too.
806
00:52:50.289 --> 00:52:53.469
You know, this, this, this idiot, you know, this dumb
807
00:52:53.750 --> 00:52:57.489
Irish guy with a boat, boat full of drunks, you know,
808
00:52:57.929 --> 00:53:00.170
if they can do it, I can do it. I
809
00:53:00.190 --> 00:53:05.239
think Columbus was at least part, partly motivated by that. Um,
810
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.280
Another part of it is I don't think these places
811
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:13.579
were as phantom as they are said to be. To
812
00:53:13.619 --> 00:53:16.880
some people, I think they had very reliable information on
813
00:53:16.900 --> 00:53:23.449
these places. It was probably just guarded away, kept secret. Remember,
814
00:53:25.250 --> 00:53:29.190
Columbus had to pretend to the king and the queen
815
00:53:29.849 --> 00:53:33.250
that he was going to find India and China. A
816
00:53:33.309 --> 00:53:36.449
new route, new spice route, new way to keep them rich.
817
00:53:37.170 --> 00:53:43.119
Because the Byzantine Empire collapsed 1450. Silk Road and all
818
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:49.420
that stuff was kind of changed hands a little bit.
819
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:55.889
It was harder to dominate that trade. And Columbus had
820
00:53:55.909 --> 00:53:58.289
to pretend, hey guys, king, queen, I'm going to go
821
00:53:58.329 --> 00:54:02.719
find a new route to Asia. And that's what they
822
00:54:02.980 --> 00:54:05.960
signed off on. Now, I don't think that was really
823
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:12.159
what he was looking for. Um, but all right. So Columbus,
824
00:54:12.579 --> 00:54:15.699
he went to Iceland. He heard about Leif Erikson, went
825
00:54:15.739 --> 00:54:19.610
to Ireland, British Isles, and he heard about Brendan and
826
00:54:19.670 --> 00:54:25.190
Prince Matic. Um, now the Antilles is kind of the
827
00:54:25.230 --> 00:54:28.250
cherry on top of this because it has so much
828
00:54:28.309 --> 00:54:32.130
in common with some of these stories. Um, Some of
829
00:54:32.139 --> 00:54:35.969
these other phantom islands. But what do you think, Juan?
830
00:54:36.329 --> 00:54:38.730
I think it could have been Puerto Rico, bro. I
831
00:54:38.769 --> 00:54:40.449
think it really could have. Because if you look at
832
00:54:40.510 --> 00:54:45.969
the shape of this, right? And its relative location. Where
833
00:54:46.030 --> 00:54:47.440
was it that I had it here?
834
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:50.199
So, and Tilly, right?
835
00:54:50.300 --> 00:54:54.579
Near here, it's got that distinct shape to it. I mean,
836
00:54:54.659 --> 00:55:00.389
if you look at Puerto Rico... It kind of would
837
00:55:00.409 --> 00:55:03.530
make sense. I mean, again, they don't know where they were,
838
00:55:04.429 --> 00:55:04.809
but it.
839
00:55:04.909 --> 00:55:06.389
Kind of resembles that.
840
00:55:06.429 --> 00:55:06.809
I don't know.
841
00:55:06.849 --> 00:55:07.329
What do you think?
842
00:55:08.030 --> 00:55:13.130
Yeah, it resembles it a lot. Very rectangular. Right? I
843
00:55:13.349 --> 00:55:16.869
am rectangular. You know that song?
844
00:55:17.250 --> 00:55:17.550
No.
845
00:55:20.829 --> 00:55:22.489
What is that? Disney Channel or something?
846
00:55:23.829 --> 00:55:24.170
Hang on.
847
00:55:24.610 --> 00:55:26.269
And they were way off, by the way. Like, if
848
00:55:26.289 --> 00:55:26.780
you look at.
849
00:55:28.510 --> 00:55:31.510
at this particular picture. So, so the light blue here
850
00:55:32.340 --> 00:55:35.760
is the actual map. And then this is there. They
851
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:37.460
were just spit balling bro.
852
00:55:37.900 --> 00:55:39.179
But again, this is.
853
00:55:39.179 --> 00:55:42.460
Close enough to here to where maybe they thought they
854
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.840
were here, but in actuality, they were somewhere over here
855
00:55:44.860 --> 00:55:48.360
or I guess Puerto Rico and stuff would be down
856
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:54.099
here maybe. Right. So this area here, that's the, this
857
00:55:54.179 --> 00:55:58.909
is Cuba and everything. You got Jamaica and all this
858
00:55:58.929 --> 00:55:59.420
stuff here.
859
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:00.420
The Caribbean, the Caribbean.
860
00:56:00.780 --> 00:56:02.559
It's kind of there. I mean.
861
00:56:05.340 --> 00:56:08.119
Yeah, no, hey, I think you're onto something with that
862
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:11.099
Puerto Rico being rectangular.
863
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:12.219
It's paradise.
864
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:16.260
There's a lot of beautiful places in Puerto Rico. You know,
865
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:17.559
I see it.
866
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.300
I see it looks good, but I don't know. Let
867
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.849
me call my Puerto Rico guy to see what.
868
00:56:23.750 --> 00:56:27.019
He's up to. Although it's a trash island, it has
869
00:56:27.099 --> 00:56:31.030
some of the most beautiful beaches in the world, okay?
870
00:56:32.659 --> 00:56:33.809
It's a beautiful place.
871
00:56:34.389 --> 00:56:36.289
Let me call my rectangle guy and see what he
872
00:56:36.329 --> 00:56:38.909
has to say about it. Do you mind hanging out
873
00:56:38.929 --> 00:56:39.170
for me?
874
00:56:39.550 --> 00:56:39.849
Alright.
875
00:56:45.090 --> 00:56:45.429
Hang on.
876
00:56:45.449 --> 00:56:46.730
Who the hell is this guy, bro?
877
00:56:49.789 --> 00:56:54.159
Oh, come on. Fuck. Um....
878
00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.380
All right, we're just going to have to.
879
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:03.920
I am rectangular. I feel it in my bones.
880
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:09.480
I am rectangular. Vacation and the Antilles.
881
00:57:09.860 --> 00:57:11.840
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
882
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:16.000
Rectangular. You don't like Sean Stevens?
883
00:57:16.900 --> 00:57:23.199
Get that thing off. Does he identify as a rectangle?
884
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:25.750
Is that part of it, too? I don't know.
885
00:57:25.809 --> 00:57:28.170
He's identifying like his own tie right now.
886
00:57:28.190 --> 00:57:32.389
Wait, what? Feel no hole? What? Yup. That's sus, bro.
887
00:57:32.449 --> 00:57:33.449
Feel no hole?
888
00:57:33.630 --> 00:57:35.590
What the hell? Hey, yo.
889
00:57:55.730 --> 00:57:58.429
Fill no hole yeah.
890
00:57:59.969 --> 00:58:04.750
Daddy chill daddy chill bro oh man all.
891
00:58:05.269 --> 00:58:08.869
Right so let's get rectangular.
892
00:58:08.650 --> 00:58:12.550
So again very rectangular i think perhaps he stumbled across
893
00:58:12.610 --> 00:58:17.320
puerto rico because there is an island south of puerto
894
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:19.380
rico i believe it's you know it's on the north
895
00:58:19.460 --> 00:58:21.539
end but anyways um.
896
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:30.780
So here uh These are some quotes from Columbus's son. Okay.
897
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:35.800
This is from The Life of the Admiral Christopher Columbus
898
00:58:37.500 --> 00:58:41.659
by Ferdinand Columbus. And remember that map? You were just
899
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:45.519
looking at this map where it's like the Phantom Islands
900
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:48.139
put over the real world map and it had.
901
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.789
You were just shown it. It's like a gridded map.
902
00:58:53.809 --> 00:58:54.630
Can we see that one again?
903
00:58:54.949 --> 00:58:55.150
Yeah.
904
00:58:56.369 --> 00:58:56.650
Thanks.
905
00:58:58.429 --> 00:59:03.400
So this quote that I had here, it actually matches
906
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:09.119
up to this perfectly. You can see Antilia in the
907
00:59:09.170 --> 00:59:13.099
middle there. in the very middle and on the left
908
00:59:13.139 --> 00:59:19.269
you see chipangu that's that's japan by the way is
909
00:59:19.369 --> 00:59:26.289
it really yeah yeah chipangu not even kidding so that's
910
00:59:26.469 --> 00:59:34.389
japan and um Columbus, or the son of Christopher Columbus, said, quote,
911
00:59:35.579 --> 00:59:39.579
And from the island of Antilia, which you call the
912
00:59:39.900 --> 00:59:44.400
island of seven cities, to the very noble island of Chupango,
913
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:48.650
there are ten spaces, which make up 2,500 miles. So
914
00:59:48.710 --> 00:59:50.050
that's 1571. Let me double check.
915
00:59:52.369 --> 00:59:52.730
How is that word?
916
00:59:59.610 --> 01:00:04.010
I don't know if the timing works on that, but whatever. 1571-ish.
917
01:00:04.230 --> 01:00:07.650
Columbus's kids were pretty old by then. But they wrote
918
01:00:07.670 --> 01:00:09.949
that down, and they knew the Americas were here. They
919
01:00:09.989 --> 01:00:13.730
knew the Caribbean was there. They knew what Puerto Rico was,
920
01:00:13.809 --> 01:00:20.949
and they were still saying Antilia. Like Antilia's halfway to Japan. Well,
921
01:00:20.969 --> 01:00:24.639
they're kind of forgetting about America. Again, I don't have
922
01:00:24.739 --> 01:00:28.789
the whole context there on that excerpt, but... There is
923
01:00:28.849 --> 01:00:35.010
another interesting... Another interesting....
924
01:00:36.940 --> 01:00:41.079
Yeah, they were way off, huh? By a lot.
925
01:00:43.860 --> 01:00:50.699
So here, this is what... This is what his son
926
01:00:50.739 --> 01:00:52.630
said about the Hesperides. Okay.
927
01:00:53.690 --> 01:00:54.380
It is 40 days....
928
01:00:56.010 --> 01:00:59.809
It is 40 days sailing across the Atlantic to the
929
01:00:59.869 --> 01:01:07.690
Hesperides Islands, which the Admiral Christopher Columbus doubted not were
930
01:01:07.889 --> 01:01:14.510
the Indies. So right there it says, Columbus's own son says,
931
01:01:15.699 --> 01:01:19.260
the Hesperidian Islands, which were also called the Atlantean Islands,
932
01:01:19.380 --> 01:01:22.960
by the way, the Atlantides Islands. They were supposed to
933
01:01:22.980 --> 01:01:26.940
be a chain of islands either halfway to or right
934
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:36.309
before you got to Atlantis. And yeah, so Columbus's own
935
01:01:36.409 --> 01:01:41.869
son is saying Columbus found the Indies, the West Indies,
936
01:01:43.190 --> 01:01:50.000
but he also believed they were the Hesperides. Isn't that interesting?
937
01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:55.349
Hesperides. Hesperides. Hesperides being a mythological place, right? Yeah.
938
01:01:55.690 --> 01:02:01.150
Yeah, it's like Atlantis. The Hesperidian Islands were named for
939
01:02:01.190 --> 01:02:06.789
the Garden of Hesperides. Hesperides is probably the origin of
940
01:02:06.849 --> 01:02:17.760
the word paradise. Hesperides. Paradise. Paradise. Paradise. So Hesperides, it's
941
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:22.409
a garden. There's trees with fruit. there's a dragon slash
942
01:02:23.190 --> 01:02:26.650
serpent that lives in the garden. Instead of one woman,
943
01:02:27.610 --> 01:02:33.880
there's multiple women. There are sometimes three, sometimes seven, but
944
01:02:33.889 --> 01:02:36.639
they were the Hesperides and the women were called the
945
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:42.519
Atlantides because, uh, they lived next to Atlas or they
946
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:46.780
had a lot to do with Atlas. Who's, you know, the, uh,
947
01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:52.719
patron god of Atlantis, I guess. Maybe Neptune, I forget.
948
01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:59.659
But Atlantis takes its name in part from Atlas. And
949
01:02:59.820 --> 01:03:03.489
Atlas also kind of presided over or was involved with
950
01:03:03.530 --> 01:03:07.710
the Garden of Hesperides and hence they were called the Atlantides.
951
01:03:10.230 --> 01:03:13.610
Right here. A blissful garden in a far western corner
952
01:03:13.630 --> 01:03:14.150
of the world.
953
01:03:14.809 --> 01:03:15.530
Yep, they were far.
954
01:03:15.610 --> 01:03:20.070
Located near The Atlas Mountains in North Africa at the
955
01:03:20.130 --> 01:03:24.889
edge of the world encircling... Of the world encircling ocean
956
01:03:24.929 --> 01:03:33.449
of Oceanus. So... Huh. Because you're absolutely right. They did
957
01:03:33.489 --> 01:03:38.760
know where Puerto Rico was. Yet they still... Because this is...
958
01:03:38.300 --> 01:03:39.780
What you were reading is after the fact.
959
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:40.800
Right?
960
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:45.159
After Juan Ponce de Leon was the governor of Puerto
961
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:48.980
Rico and all that stuff. And they still claim that
962
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:55.380
it was a place. So they can't have it confused.
963
01:03:55.420 --> 01:03:58.019
I would understand it was before, but then still after?
964
01:03:58.039 --> 01:03:59.500
That's weird, bro. Yeah.
965
01:03:59.860 --> 01:04:02.820
Well, see, I think the Hesperides thing might give us
966
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:07.090
a clue there because Columbus had discovered the Indies or
967
01:04:07.110 --> 01:04:10.489
the West Indies was living there and he still referred
968
01:04:10.510 --> 01:04:13.190
to them as the Hesperides. You know what I mean?
969
01:04:14.090 --> 01:04:18.050
So maybe they're just using Antilia even though They know
970
01:04:18.070 --> 01:04:20.289
where it is. Maybe they're just saying Antilia because it's
971
01:04:20.670 --> 01:04:22.510
cooler than saying Puerto Rico. I don't know.
972
01:04:22.829 --> 01:04:23.690
Yeah, probably.
973
01:04:23.769 --> 01:04:24.269
You're probably right.
974
01:04:25.329 --> 01:04:29.550
But yeah, you know, the shape of Antilia and Puerto
975
01:04:29.570 --> 01:04:35.139
Rico is pretty eerie, eerily similar. My only caveat to
976
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:39.260
that would be, well, when you're making up an island
977
01:04:39.300 --> 01:04:42.000
from scratch, like, are you going to make this like
978
01:04:42.139 --> 01:04:44.179
weird shape? You know, are you going to be like, oh,
979
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:47.079
there's a there's a coast over here and there's mountains
980
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:49.099
over here. Or you're just going to be like, alright,
981
01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:50.420
we don't know what the fuck this looks like.
982
01:04:51.139 --> 01:04:51.380
Boom.
983
01:04:51.659 --> 01:04:52.900
Rectangle. Moving on.
984
01:04:53.099 --> 01:04:56.079
Well, the thing is, bro, Puerto Rico is really small.
985
01:04:56.940 --> 01:04:59.610
So when you're coming up on it, you could probably
986
01:05:00.429 --> 01:05:03.289
see a large portion of it. You know, you can
987
01:05:03.309 --> 01:05:05.750
travel around Puerto Rico in three and a half, four hours.
988
01:05:06.210 --> 01:05:06.389
Yeah.
989
01:05:06.869 --> 01:05:09.269
You know what else I like here about the shape?
990
01:05:09.909 --> 01:05:12.530
And we were talking before about maybe some symbolism being
991
01:05:12.570 --> 01:05:18.869
attached to these places. You'll notice there's there's inlets or
992
01:05:18.909 --> 01:05:19.989
like little bays.
993
01:05:20.010 --> 01:05:20.889
There's seven of them.
994
01:05:21.650 --> 01:05:25.150
There's seven, exactly. And I assume that there is a
995
01:05:25.230 --> 01:05:29.070
city on each of those ports or bays, right? And
996
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:36.440
Antilia was called the Island of Seven Cities. The Island
997
01:05:36.460 --> 01:05:39.980
of Seven Cities. Let's go to the Antilia Wikipedia. Let's
998
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:40.559
read around.
999
01:05:42.570 --> 01:05:45.030
There you go. The Antilia is a phantom island that
1000
01:05:45.050 --> 01:05:48.840
was reputed During the 15th century, yada, yada, yada. All right,
1001
01:05:48.860 --> 01:05:51.860
so seeking to flee from the Muslim conquerors, seven Christian,
1002
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:56.320
busy Gothic bishops embarked with their flock of ships. So
1003
01:05:56.380 --> 01:06:01.690
maybe it's got seven because of the seven bishops. Yeah.
1004
01:06:02.250 --> 01:06:05.030
And then they founded seven settlements. So there you go.
1005
01:06:05.050 --> 01:06:08.610
We got the seven settlements there. And then it makes
1006
01:06:08.659 --> 01:06:13.989
its first appearance in 1424. Okay. Therefore, it routinely appeared
1007
01:06:14.030 --> 01:06:18.469
in most nautical charts of the 15th century. After 1492
1008
01:06:18.469 --> 01:06:20.949
and the North Atlantic Ocean began to be routinely sailed
1009
01:06:20.989 --> 01:06:25.159
and became more accurately mapped, depictions of Antilia gradually disappeared.
1010
01:06:26.059 --> 01:06:33.239
It nonetheless lent its name to the Spanish Antilles. So, yeah,
1011
01:06:33.500 --> 01:06:42.469
it's got the seven in there. Esoteric. What else? You
1012
01:06:42.489 --> 01:06:45.309
want to talk about these guys real quick? The Pizzagate brothers?
1013
01:06:45.989 --> 01:06:47.420
Are we allowed to say that on YouTube now?
1014
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:49.860
I think so, yeah. I think it's all good.
1015
01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:54.239
Sorry. Yeah, we can save them for later, because I
1016
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:58.860
have some connections here with some other stuff with them. So... Okay.
1017
01:07:00.190 --> 01:07:03.349
Well, yeah, you know, that island, Antilles, now on, the
1018
01:07:03.409 --> 01:07:05.550
only thing maybe that kind of throws a wrench in
1019
01:07:05.590 --> 01:07:08.289
the theory that the shape lines up with Puerto Rico
1020
01:07:08.369 --> 01:07:11.199
is there's that other island, too, which is also rectangular.
1021
01:07:12.179 --> 01:07:14.889
slightly north of it so I don't know maybe that
1022
01:07:14.949 --> 01:07:22.869
one's Cuba or something Royo they're rolloing some cigars over
1023
01:07:22.889 --> 01:07:23.849
there in Cuba.
1024
01:07:24.210 --> 01:07:30.110
Yeah some Cuban cigars Royo or Roylo.
1025
01:07:30.750 --> 01:07:33.389
What does Royo mean does that mean like red or pink.
1026
01:07:33.730 --> 01:07:37.940
No Royo means roll like rolled.
1027
01:07:37.940 --> 01:07:41.250
Like rolled okay So they'd be rolling that shit up, yo.
1028
01:07:41.269 --> 01:07:42.860
They smoking it down over there.
1029
01:07:43.110 --> 01:07:45.280
They'd be rolling that shit up.
1030
01:07:46.019 --> 01:07:48.940
That Wiz Khalifa island over there.
1031
01:07:50.460 --> 01:07:53.219
Is there anything on what was on the island as
1032
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:54.079
far as like.
1033
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:57.659
That's that Isla Khalifa, all right?
1034
01:07:59.889 --> 01:08:02.469
Let's see here. Because a lot of these islands, for example,
1035
01:08:03.230 --> 01:08:05.090
and I'm scared to say this one out loud, but
1036
01:08:05.130 --> 01:08:09.349
the Rupes Negra, if that's how you say it, Was
1037
01:08:09.449 --> 01:08:15.380
the Black Cliff, another phantom island called the Black Rock,
1038
01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:22.720
located at the North Pole, described by Mercator as 33
1039
01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:24.420
French miles in size.
1040
01:08:25.140 --> 01:08:26.899
And it's interesting because.
1041
01:08:26.970 --> 01:08:28.090
How many Rogans is that?
1042
01:08:28.810 --> 01:08:30.949
That's a lot of Rogans. That's about 33,000 Rogans.
1043
01:08:30.970 --> 01:08:37.350
Yeah. All right. And it's interesting because him and John
1044
01:08:37.390 --> 01:08:40.350
Dee were very close. They were friends. They were buddies.
1045
01:08:40.899 --> 01:08:41.880
And they studied together.
1046
01:08:42.819 --> 01:08:46.899
And he describes this island to him. Now, I think
1047
01:08:46.939 --> 01:08:47.359
it's a code.
1048
01:08:47.380 --> 01:08:48.819
Yeah, see, exactly.
1049
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:49.800
Exactly.
1050
01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:51.539
That's like what we were trying to say earlier on.
1051
01:08:51.739 --> 01:08:58.880
It's like they use they use these concepts almost as like, uh,
1052
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:03.420
opportunities to like flex on each other or like, you know,
1053
01:09:03.579 --> 01:09:06.979
you did your Atlanta Smith. Well, I know this Island
1054
01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:12.600
and it has 33 miles long. It's, it's, it's a,
1055
01:09:13.180 --> 01:09:18.119
there's seven cities. Ooh, it's like, And then it's like, wink, wink.
1056
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:20.779
What'd you call it? Let's call it the rupes negro.
1057
01:09:20.819 --> 01:09:21.500
What'd you call me?
1058
01:09:23.619 --> 01:09:27.560
Rufy's negro. All right, that's what we're calling it.
1059
01:09:27.659 --> 01:09:31.520
So he writes to him, and in the midst of
1060
01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.890
four countries is a whirlpool into which they're empty, these
1061
01:09:35.010 --> 01:09:37.829
four in-drawing seas which divide the north.
1062
01:09:38.409 --> 01:09:39.890
And the water rushes around and.
1063
01:09:39.869 --> 01:09:43.670
Descends into the earth just as if one were pouring
1064
01:09:43.729 --> 01:09:48.649
it through a filter funnel. It is four degrees wide
1065
01:09:48.750 --> 01:09:51.329
on every side of the pole. That is to say
1066
01:09:51.470 --> 01:09:56.229
eight degrees altogether. That right there is like very Masonic, right?
1067
01:09:56.250 --> 01:09:59.430
It is four degrees wide on every side of the pole.
1068
01:09:59.789 --> 01:10:03.689
That is to say eight degrees altogether. Except that right
1069
01:10:03.750 --> 01:10:06.609
under the pole, there lies a bare rock in the
1070
01:10:06.649 --> 01:10:12.779
midst of the sea. Its circumference is almost 33 French miles. Interesting, right? 33.
1071
01:10:12.779 --> 01:10:15.199
And it is all of magnetic stones.
1072
01:10:16.020 --> 01:10:18.350
This is word for word everything that I copied out
1073
01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:22.579
of his novel. And there's also stories about certain mythical
1074
01:10:22.659 --> 01:10:24.479
beings being on here. And this reminds me of this
1075
01:10:24.539 --> 01:10:29.939
movie that I saw recently with... I think it was
1076
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:36.380
The Rock, Dwayne Johnson. Is it Jumanji where they go
1077
01:10:36.420 --> 01:10:41.039
through the storm and they go through like a portal
1078
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:42.979
and they land on this island? Let me look that
1079
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:45.189
movie up. So....
1080
01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:49.260
No, it was with Jack Black, I think.
1081
01:10:50.539 --> 01:10:51.659
That's in The Rock, too.
1082
01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:55.539
Oh, Journey to the Mysterious Island. So, Journey to the
1083
01:10:55.560 --> 01:11:01.039
Mysterious Island. Damn, this is older than I thought. 2012? Golly.
1084
01:11:01.220 --> 01:11:06.109
It's about Atlantis, actually. But the way that they find
1085
01:11:06.149 --> 01:11:06.590
it is.
1086
01:11:08.510 --> 01:11:12.170
Again, they find this story and this kid and his grandpa, blah, blah, blah.
1087
01:11:12.210 --> 01:11:16.939
Something crazy like that. The movie's just... CGI slop, essentially,
1088
01:11:16.949 --> 01:11:18.619
is what it is. Like, these people are just putting
1089
01:11:18.699 --> 01:11:20.239
out stuff. Yeah.
1090
01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:24.979
But point being that they go through this storm and
1091
01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:27.600
they go through, like, this typhoon.
1092
01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:30.529
Not a typhoon. What the hell is the water tornadoes called?
1093
01:11:30.550 --> 01:11:34.829
A water spout or something like that? And they go through, like,
1094
01:11:34.869 --> 01:11:36.390
a storm and they go through, like, a portal and
1095
01:11:36.409 --> 01:11:40.890
they land on this island and then they're stranded. Come
1096
01:11:40.930 --> 01:11:44.430
to find out that it's Atlantis... And they're right at
1097
01:11:44.449 --> 01:11:46.390
the point where it's going to flood, right? So they
1098
01:11:46.430 --> 01:11:48.350
have to find a way out. But it just makes
1099
01:11:48.390 --> 01:11:53.270
me think of what these Phantom Islands and everything are
1100
01:11:53.310 --> 01:11:58.020
talking about, where maybe perhaps, let's say there actually is
1101
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:02.239
a place, okay? And we can get schizo later on.
1102
01:12:03.060 --> 01:12:08.119
Maybe Occam's Razor says it was a mistake, right?
1103
01:12:09.220 --> 01:12:10.460
They were still learning things.
1104
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:13.770
They were still exploring. The world was... was young right
1105
01:12:13.810 --> 01:12:16.949
exploration was young and as time goes on they're able
1106
01:12:16.989 --> 01:12:19.989
to to flesh it out better and fill in all
1107
01:12:20.010 --> 01:12:22.609
the inaccuracies don't not pull a play-doh where they're just
1108
01:12:22.649 --> 01:12:24.630
filling in the holes where they want maybe they were
1109
01:12:24.649 --> 01:12:26.760
that maybe that's what they were doing right to make
1110
01:12:26.810 --> 01:12:31.720
it look like hey because imagine bro imagine the size
1111
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.039
of the balls you would have to have to jump
1112
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:36.460
on a ship to go somewhere where you don't even
1113
01:12:36.500 --> 01:12:40.880
know where you're going okay The size of the balls
1114
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:44.460
that need to be acquired to do that are quite big.
1115
01:12:45.340 --> 01:12:50.260
You're right. Now, guess what, Juan? How many days do
1116
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:52.619
you think Columbus was at sea?
1117
01:12:55.109 --> 01:12:56.149
I'm sure.
1118
01:12:56.550 --> 01:12:59.189
From when he left the Canaries to when he landed
1119
01:12:59.210 --> 01:13:01.329
in the Bahamas.
1120
01:13:01.449 --> 01:13:02.590
I'm sure I've heard it before.
1121
01:13:02.829 --> 01:13:03.149
I don't know.
1122
01:13:03.170 --> 01:13:04.390
Take a guess. Just take a guess.
1123
01:13:04.390 --> 01:13:05.250
40 days.
1124
01:13:07.010 --> 01:13:10.640
Almost there. It's on screen right now.
1125
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:11.739
30, 33.
1126
01:13:11.739 --> 01:13:12.279
Yes, sir.
1127
01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:13.220
No way.
1128
01:13:13.260 --> 01:13:14.079
No, there's no way.
1129
01:13:14.140 --> 01:13:15.479
Really? Yeah. Yep.
1130
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:16.520
Search.
1131
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:19.359
How many days was Columbus at sea?
1132
01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:27.729
33 to 34. Wow, bro. Hold on. Hold on. I
1133
01:13:27.750 --> 01:13:28.789
said 33 to 34. More like 33.
1134
01:13:28.789 --> 01:13:30.109
Illuminati confirmed.
1135
01:13:35.970 --> 01:13:37.170
Oh, man.
1136
01:13:37.529 --> 01:13:41.810
August 3rd. Hey, we just passed the anniversary.
1137
01:13:42.350 --> 01:13:42.890
Hold on.
1138
01:13:43.789 --> 01:13:46.310
He departed on August 3rd.
1139
01:13:47.390 --> 01:13:47.649
Yeah.
1140
01:13:48.149 --> 01:13:48.390
Wait.
1141
01:13:50.489 --> 01:13:50.949
Left Spain.
1142
01:13:52.300 --> 01:13:52.859
August 3rd.
1143
01:13:52.859 --> 01:13:55.420
1492. No. Okay.
1144
01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:58.000
Well, hang on here. Sorry. He lands in the Canaries
1145
01:13:58.840 --> 01:13:59.880
and then he takes off.
1146
01:14:00.659 --> 01:14:01.199
Okay. Okay.
1147
01:14:01.220 --> 01:14:01.619
I got you.
1148
01:14:01.899 --> 01:14:04.760
He left Spain and then he stops in the Canaries.
1149
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:08.710
And spends a decent amount of time. Then he took off.
1150
01:14:08.850 --> 01:14:14.229
And then it was 33 days. So, pretty interesting. That
1151
01:14:14.409 --> 01:14:15.270
is interesting.
1152
01:14:15.489 --> 01:14:22.229
Again, and he was a Brazilian. So, maybe where it
1153
01:14:22.270 --> 01:14:25.609
gets into this trying to find the Holy Land. But
1154
01:14:25.750 --> 01:14:28.710
the point I was trying to make was, and I
1155
01:14:28.729 --> 01:14:30.729
don't know if you know this or not, were these
1156
01:14:30.789 --> 01:14:32.710
guys like rock stars when they got back?
1157
01:14:32.750 --> 01:14:33.170
Were they.
1158
01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:37.659
famous were they rich were they like what was the
1159
01:14:37.779 --> 01:14:41.060
feel because if think about it you see this guy
1160
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:43.890
who just came back and and you know people come
1161
01:14:43.930 --> 01:14:47.810
back from war they're telling they're telling stories about all
1162
01:14:47.829 --> 01:14:50.850
this craziness that they experienced in war i can imagine
1163
01:14:50.890 --> 01:14:53.689
these guys were coming back and telling these over exaggerated
1164
01:14:53.750 --> 01:14:58.130
stories meanwhile you know they were butt pirates the whole
1165
01:14:58.170 --> 01:15:00.590
time and they were bored as hell the entire time
1166
01:15:00.609 --> 01:15:02.329
but when they come back like yeah we saw sea
1167
01:15:02.369 --> 01:15:06.489
monsters We went to Antilles and there was blah, blah, blah,
1168
01:15:06.510 --> 01:15:09.689
like trying to hype it up to like make people
1169
01:15:09.710 --> 01:15:11.909
look at them a certain type of way. Like, man,
1170
01:15:11.949 --> 01:15:15.189
these guys are the real deal. These guys are rock stars, right?
1171
01:15:16.369 --> 01:15:18.989
Were they accepted like that or no? Yes.
1172
01:15:19.970 --> 01:15:26.279
In many cases, yes. Columbus initially, yes. But later on
1173
01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:29.890
in his life, Columbus was kind of, I don't know
1174
01:15:29.909 --> 01:15:32.430
if disgraced is the right word. He was kind of like,
1175
01:15:32.489 --> 01:15:34.590
they didn't want to deal with him. He was like crazy.
1176
01:15:35.550 --> 01:15:36.909
It's kind of like how I feel when I deal
1177
01:15:36.949 --> 01:15:44.060
with John Saxer. Um, you know, like he, uh, Columbus was,
1178
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:47.659
had done so much for the crown done so much
1179
01:15:47.699 --> 01:15:49.939
for Spain, but at the same time, he's kind of
1180
01:15:49.979 --> 01:15:52.979
pretending not to be Spanish. So they didn't really know
1181
01:15:53.020 --> 01:15:54.960
how to feel about him. You know, he's an Italian guy.
1182
01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:58.140
How much credit do they want to give him for everything? Um,
1183
01:15:59.130 --> 01:16:03.890
but also he's probably secretly Jewish. They were pretty hesitant.
1184
01:16:04.510 --> 01:16:08.020
The king and the queen probably suspected that in Columbus's
1185
01:16:08.060 --> 01:16:10.239
own lifetime, he would be exposed for that. So they
1186
01:16:10.260 --> 01:16:13.819
were kind of iffy on supporting him. But once he
1187
01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:16.260
comes back and he found all this great stuff, then
1188
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:21.430
he kind of becomes less, uh, disposable, right? Now that
1189
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:23.789
he's done something for them, now that he's came back
1190
01:16:24.149 --> 01:16:27.449
with something to show for it, he's not really disposable.
1191
01:16:27.510 --> 01:16:34.409
He's not, um, He's not, uh, whatever. But then, um,
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01:16:36.510 --> 01:16:41.670
later on in his life, Columbus was kind of shunned, uh,
1193
01:16:42.010 --> 01:16:43.989
from the royal court. You know, they didn't want him
1194
01:16:44.029 --> 01:16:49.680
bothering them. And he did kind of die, not necessarily penniless,
1195
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:54.520
not necessarily disgraced, but people had kind of forgotten about
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01:16:54.539 --> 01:16:57.789
him there. The, the other conquistadors were doing a lot
1197
01:16:57.810 --> 01:17:00.170
of important things too. So Columbus was the first to
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01:17:00.250 --> 01:17:04.899
find something, but, uh, he didn't really come home with
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that much. He had some Indian slaves, some gold, some
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01:17:07.989 --> 01:17:10.619
berries and shit like that. Not a whole, not a
1201
01:17:10.619 --> 01:17:16.060
whole lot to show for it. A couple of years later,
1202
01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:20.960
you know, Cortez was coming back from Mexico and saying,
1203
01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:27.899
I've got, I've got, you know, crates and crates and
1204
01:17:27.979 --> 01:17:31.460
crates of gold. I've got thousands and thousands and thousands
1205
01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:33.899
of slaves and soldiers. That work hard.
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01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:35.680
They're from the motherland.
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01:17:36.539 --> 01:17:38.479
Yeah, these ain't no Bahama mamas, all right?
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01:17:38.890 --> 01:17:39.010
Yeah.
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01:17:39.189 --> 01:17:40.909
These ain't... These ain't no.
1210
01:17:40.949 --> 01:17:43.630
These aren't Puerto Rican slaves. Those just sleep all day.
1211
01:17:43.689 --> 01:17:46.189
These are the ones that are... They'll do the whole
1212
01:17:46.210 --> 01:17:48.010
roof right now in the palace just to send them
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01:17:48.050 --> 01:17:48.430
up there.
1214
01:17:48.930 --> 01:17:49.909
They'll do the whole thing.
1215
01:17:49.930 --> 01:17:54.260
Yep. So....
1216
01:17:55.250 --> 01:17:58.909
Send them to Home Depot. They come back with a
1217
01:17:58.930 --> 01:17:59.729
Mayan pyramid.
1218
01:18:03.319 --> 01:18:03.619
Yeah.
1219
01:18:03.659 --> 01:18:05.319
So that's just something I thought about.
1220
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:10.680
Maybe they over embellished certain details, which I'm sure was
1221
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:14.890
part of it as well. And again, this concept, I've
1222
01:18:14.909 --> 01:18:18.470
got a bunch here too, bro. The Hi Brazil, which
1223
01:18:18.550 --> 01:18:20.829
is another, I know you wanted to talk about this
1224
01:18:20.949 --> 01:18:23.640
one because there are a ton of I mean, all
1225
01:18:23.659 --> 01:18:28.720
these are tabs of places that are quote-unquote phantom islands
1226
01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:29.359
throughout history.
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01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:33.869
Let's read through the Antilia one real quick, just a
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01:18:33.890 --> 01:18:41.710
little bit. We still kind of haven't given.
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01:18:40.569 --> 01:18:42.569
The basics on this. The legend?
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01:18:44.970 --> 01:18:46.590
Let's read the first paragraph first.
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01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:50.539
Uh here yeah.
1232
01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:51.319
Just like no go up all the way to the
1233
01:18:51.340 --> 01:18:57.039
top please Antilia is a phantom island that was reputed
1234
01:18:57.420 --> 01:19:02.300
during the 15th century age of exploration to lie in
1235
01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:05.460
the Atlantic Ocean far to the west of Portugal and
1236
01:19:05.500 --> 01:19:09.899
Spain The island also went by the name of Isle
1237
01:19:09.939 --> 01:19:17.699
of Seven Cities. It originated from an old Iberian legend
1238
01:19:17.939 --> 01:19:24.880
set during the Muslim conquest of Hispania. Seeking to flee
1239
01:19:24.939 --> 01:19:30.649
from the Muslim conquerors, seven Christian Visigothic bishops embarked with
1240
01:19:30.689 --> 01:19:34.989
their flocks on ships and set sail westward into the
1241
01:19:35.029 --> 01:19:40.090
Atlantic Ocean. eventually landing on an island, Antilia, where they
1242
01:19:40.130 --> 01:19:47.149
founded seven settlements. First appeared as a large rectangular island
1243
01:19:47.189 --> 01:19:58.500
in the 1424 chart of the Pisigano brothers, Pisigano. Thereafter,
1244
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:02.420
it routinely appeared in most nautical charts, most nautical charts
1245
01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:06.600
of the 15th century. After 1492, when the North Atlantic
1246
01:20:06.699 --> 01:20:10.840
Ocean began to be routinely sailed and became more accurately mapped,
1247
01:20:11.399 --> 01:20:16.239
depictions of Antilia gradually disappeared. It nonetheless lent its name
1248
01:20:16.350 --> 01:20:21.310
to the Spanish Antilles. The routine appearance of such a
1249
01:20:21.390 --> 01:20:26.270
large Antilia in 15th century nautical charts has led to
1250
01:20:26.310 --> 01:20:31.640
speculation that it might represent the American landmass and has
1251
01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:39.529
fueled many theories of pre-Columbian Trans-oceanic contact. Remember, you know,
1252
01:20:39.550 --> 01:20:41.109
we were talking about John Dee a little bit. Remember
1253
01:20:41.149 --> 01:20:46.520
John Dee talked about Prince Matic finding Florida. We did
1254
01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:48.600
a whole show on that, me and Juan, one of
1255
01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:55.960
our best shows probably. And Prince Matic went to Florida
1256
01:20:56.699 --> 01:21:03.079
and the English, or Prince Matic, British, sorry, John Dee, British,
1257
01:21:04.260 --> 01:21:08.420
also Welsh, like Prince Matic. But John Dee, who's working
1258
01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:15.550
for the British Crown, he used Florida and Prince Matic's
1259
01:21:15.630 --> 01:21:21.630
legend of going to Florida as evidence or as like
1260
01:21:21.670 --> 01:21:27.520
a precedent, as a justification for the English colonization of
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01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:31.859
the Americas. John Dee was basically saying, well, yeah, Columbus
1262
01:21:31.899 --> 01:21:37.060
discovered the Bahamas. Well, yeah, the, uh, you know, the
1263
01:21:37.149 --> 01:21:39.000
Portuguese are over in Brazil.
1264
01:21:39.140 --> 01:21:39.739
Oh, well, yeah.
1265
01:21:39.779 --> 01:21:42.539
You know, the, the French or the Danish, whatever, but
1266
01:21:42.579 --> 01:21:49.800
the English, the British, we were in Florida in 1100.
1267
01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:51.779
That's what John D was trying to say. He's trying
1268
01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:55.359
to say, well, hang on guys. Prince Matic made it
1269
01:21:55.380 --> 01:21:57.989
here first. So England should have the rights to it.
1270
01:21:58.149 --> 01:21:59.189
You know, like, duh.
1271
01:22:00.409 --> 01:22:03.409
Um, he was, he was really trying. to make that case.
1272
01:22:04.750 --> 01:22:06.949
And Antilia may have been something like that.
1273
01:22:10.869 --> 01:22:11.229
But alright.
1274
01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:15.239
So that's the basics on Antilia. Like Juan said, it's
1275
01:22:15.260 --> 01:22:20.319
just one of many Phantom Islands. And there was a
1276
01:22:22.699 --> 01:22:28.069
also with Prince Matic, it's a very similar story. So
1277
01:22:28.149 --> 01:22:31.960
it's not the Muslims, okay, but His family was having disputes.
1278
01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:37.779
There was battles going on, all this stuff. And eventually... All.
1279
01:22:41.180 --> 01:22:41.640
Right, whatever.
1280
01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:44.600
It's kind of like a similar story. Seven cities or
1281
01:22:44.649 --> 01:22:48.750
seven kingdoms, a little bit. The Prince Matic story is
1282
01:22:48.789 --> 01:22:55.890
kind of like that, too. Well, that's all right. That's
1283
01:22:55.909 --> 01:22:58.699
all right, Juan. Waterloo Bear is.
1284
01:23:02.010 --> 01:23:05.770
I wouldn't worry too much about what he says about you.
1285
01:23:05.970 --> 01:23:08.689
Bear says it all. Everything out of sea, bear.
1286
01:23:14.180 --> 01:23:18.100
Well, Waterloo guy is pretty... He's pretty nice. I've met him.
1287
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:22.720
He's a good guy. But... Kind of unforgiving, I guess.
1288
01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:23.300
Maybe.
1289
01:23:25.020 --> 01:23:32.390
Critical. But alright, so... What were some other of the
1290
01:23:32.489 --> 01:23:33.670
islands we wanted to talk about?
1291
01:23:35.369 --> 01:23:40.470
So I had a weird connection because a schizo, let's
1292
01:23:40.489 --> 01:23:50.359
get schizo here real quick because Antilia, right? You have here,
1293
01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:55.220
this particular part, utopian tales of the fortune islands were
1294
01:23:55.279 --> 01:23:58.810
sung by poets like Homer, Horace, Plato articulated the utopian
1295
01:23:58.829 --> 01:24:00.090
legend of Atlantis.
1296
01:24:00.529 --> 01:24:02.989
Again, another one of these phantom islands.
1297
01:24:03.609 --> 01:24:07.029
Ancient writers like Plutarch, Strabo, and more explicitly Pliny the
1298
01:24:07.149 --> 01:24:13.670
Elder and Ptolemy testified to the existence of the Canary Islands.
1299
01:24:14.609 --> 01:24:20.659
So it's interesting that the guys responsible for, again, the
1300
01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:26.840
first map to ever show Antilia was the Pizzigiani or
1301
01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:31.109
I'm going to call them the Pizzagate bros, okay? The
1302
01:24:31.149 --> 01:24:35.569
Pizzagate Bros. And these guys, I haven't really dug into them,
1303
01:24:35.609 --> 01:24:38.909
but let's look at these guys here real quick.
1304
01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:41.300
Venetian Cartographers.
1305
01:24:42.579 --> 01:24:47.359
Pizzigiano. Only one Z in older sources. They are principally
1306
01:24:47.420 --> 01:24:52.579
known for the construction of the Portland Chart. Portland Chart.
1307
01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:56.000
So it's, I guess, this thing here that has all
1308
01:24:56.020 --> 01:25:00.810
the lines and everything. Right? The construction. or this type
1309
01:25:00.850 --> 01:25:06.180
of nautical charts, 13th and 14th century in the Mediterranean region. Now,
1310
01:25:06.229 --> 01:25:10.000
what's interesting about these two guys is you can make
1311
01:25:10.039 --> 01:25:16.279
the connection to, because one of my favorite theories is
1312
01:25:16.300 --> 01:25:23.680
Twyman's theory on hidden hyperspace kingdoms. Now, if you look
1313
01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:34.449
into Ghislaine, Ghislaine, whoever, Maxwell, you would find that her
1314
01:25:34.550 --> 01:25:40.340
dad actually went missing near the Canary Islands, okay, allegedly
1315
01:25:40.380 --> 01:25:44.680
his body was found later on near the Canary Islands,
1316
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:49.340
he drowned or had a heart attack, blah, blah, blah, whatever, right,
1317
01:25:49.380 --> 01:25:52.739
Robert Maxwell disappeared from his yacht, boo-hoo, the middle of
1318
01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:58.270
the night on November 5th, 1991, And nobody noticed for hours,
1319
01:25:58.850 --> 01:26:02.489
and they finally found him. That's what they say. Obviously,
1320
01:26:03.069 --> 01:26:07.159
that's interesting because we talked earlier or the other day
1321
01:26:07.180 --> 01:26:10.300
when we were on the phone about her having her,
1322
01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:15.800
some people say, submarine pilot license. I don't think you
1323
01:26:15.819 --> 01:26:18.479
need a license to pilot a submarine. I guess you
1324
01:26:18.500 --> 01:26:21.310
can just have one and just do what you want
1325
01:26:21.350 --> 01:26:24.970
to do. And we have, obviously, the Jeffrey Epstein connection
1326
01:26:24.989 --> 01:26:28.689
to this, to where They had some interesting projects together.
1327
01:26:28.710 --> 01:26:31.649
For example, the Terramar Project, right?
1328
01:26:31.670 --> 01:26:35.189
Where it was this organization, but it was inspired by,
1329
01:26:35.210 --> 01:26:39.430
I don't know if you've read this before, to where allegedly,
1330
01:26:40.289 --> 01:26:44.220
according to Ghislaine or Ghislaine Maxwell, an inspiration for the
1331
01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:48.600
Terramar Project came when she was aboard a submarine and
1332
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:51.819
thought she saw a mythical creature at 1,500 feet deep.
1333
01:26:53.789 --> 01:26:57.090
And then allegedly it was a coat hanger. I don't
1334
01:26:57.130 --> 01:27:01.609
know how you can mistake a coat hanger for a
1335
01:27:01.710 --> 01:27:04.140
mythological beast of some sort, right?
1336
01:27:05.060 --> 01:27:07.920
So I'm going.
1337
01:27:07.819 --> 01:27:10.859
To propose the idea that a lot of these wealthy
1338
01:27:10.899 --> 01:27:19.289
elites have maybe actual phantom islands in some sort of way.
1339
01:27:19.369 --> 01:27:24.909
Maybe they have I don't know, some underground layer. We
1340
01:27:25.109 --> 01:27:29.489
got Tracy Twyman talking about how there are various hidden
1341
01:27:29.529 --> 01:27:33.470
hyperspace kingdoms where you can only see them at a
1342
01:27:33.529 --> 01:27:37.149
certain time of day or at a certain time of year.
1343
01:27:38.380 --> 01:27:42.359
And it ties into the Atlas Shrug story that I
1344
01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:44.539
told you about the other day on the phone where
1345
01:27:44.560 --> 01:27:46.760
all the billionaires and all these people go missing. And
1346
01:27:46.779 --> 01:27:51.189
there's a new show on netflix right now called billionaires
1347
01:27:51.310 --> 01:27:53.850
bunker and right before i jumped on i saw it
1348
01:27:54.289 --> 01:27:57.390
and i guess it's about all these billionaires and these
1349
01:27:57.430 --> 01:28:00.350
wealthy elites going into a bunker i i just saw
1350
01:28:00.369 --> 01:28:03.289
like the preview of the show on the netflix where
1351
01:28:03.350 --> 01:28:07.109
they go into this under underwater you know underground bunker
1352
01:28:07.729 --> 01:28:10.210
and they go hiding what's to say that they don't
1353
01:28:10.289 --> 01:28:15.029
have access to again these phantom islands they really disappear
1354
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:17.260
i mean i've never been there have you long ago
1355
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:19.359
i can't confirm nor deny let's.
1356
01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:28.760
And let's be real. Let's be real. So you could
1357
01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:30.199
hide an island today. 100%.
1358
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:30.699
Yeah.
1359
01:28:32.670 --> 01:28:35.489
I get the feeling even when I think about Australia
1360
01:28:35.529 --> 01:28:39.970
and New Zealand, I get the idea. I get the feeling.
1361
01:28:40.109 --> 01:28:43.810
that that's just like that's just like the front door
1362
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:48.699
to like a whole nother fucking kingdom did you know
1363
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:58.140
that no common no conventional mammals um cross this line
1364
01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:01.340
have you heard of this line near New Zealand, that
1365
01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:03.039
no mammals cross.
1366
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:04.439
No.
1367
01:29:04.810 --> 01:29:08.529
There's no normal mammals past this line out in the Pacific.
1368
01:29:09.270 --> 01:29:14.270
No bears, no deer, none of the stuff you're used
1369
01:29:14.310 --> 01:29:17.789
to seeing around America lives past this line.
1370
01:29:18.189 --> 01:29:21.140
Almost like it's a simulation past that line or something.
1371
01:29:22.229 --> 01:29:25.539
And the animals literally won't cross it. There are plenty
1372
01:29:25.579 --> 01:29:27.760
of animals who can cross that if they wanted to.
1373
01:29:28.260 --> 01:29:30.569
They just don't. It's very weird.
1374
01:29:30.630 --> 01:29:31.430
What's it called?
1375
01:29:31.829 --> 01:29:34.689
In all... I forget the name. Someone's going to know it.
1376
01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:36.020
In Australia?
1377
01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:40.180
What's this, guys? What's this line called near Australia?
1378
01:29:40.199 --> 01:29:41.199
The Wallace's Line?
1379
01:29:41.979 --> 01:29:42.680
Yeah, I think so.
1380
01:29:43.220 --> 01:29:43.380
Yeah.
1381
01:29:44.539 --> 01:29:46.670
I mean, Australia is not a real place, right? I mean,
1382
01:29:46.689 --> 01:29:48.090
to Flat Earthers, it doesn't exist, right?
1383
01:29:48.649 --> 01:29:49.529
Mm-mm.
1384
01:29:49.550 --> 01:29:50.210
Australia?
1385
01:29:50.930 --> 01:29:54.510
Australia is a faunal boundary line running through Indonesia that
1386
01:29:54.550 --> 01:29:57.729
separates the wildlife of Asia from the distinct marsupial-heavy wildlife
1387
01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:02.199
of Australia. And New Guinea. Deep ocean channels kept land
1388
01:30:02.220 --> 01:30:03.720
masses separated for millions of years.
1389
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:05.619
Wait, so....
1390
01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:10.420
Is it like an actual line where they won't pass on.
1391
01:30:10.779 --> 01:30:14.039
Yeah, it's like a channel. I think it's the only like...
1392
01:30:13.859 --> 01:30:19.779
I think the geographic or like real world basis for
1393
01:30:19.819 --> 01:30:24.260
it is it's like a deep water channel. I think
1394
01:30:24.300 --> 01:30:24.720
that's what.
1395
01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:25.460
Huxley.
1396
01:30:28.100 --> 01:30:30.840
But Zoom in on that map so you can see
1397
01:30:30.859 --> 01:30:38.699
how weird it is. So, all the stuff... This line...
1398
01:30:39.539 --> 01:30:41.939
All the stuff to the left of it, to the
1399
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:49.399
north and the west or whatever... That is all bears, deer...
1400
01:30:48.979 --> 01:30:54.859
I don't know. I'm talking out of my ass right now.
1401
01:30:54.899 --> 01:30:59.020
I don't know. But, like, monkeys... like rats, otters, like
1402
01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:02.779
shit you're used to seeing, right? And then you cross
1403
01:31:02.819 --> 01:31:05.979
this line, and they've got like none of that. They
1404
01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:08.840
don't have any of that. And it's all these weird
1405
01:31:08.899 --> 01:31:18.930
fucking Pokemon animals, like wallaby, kangaroo, koala, fucking the... I
1406
01:31:18.949 --> 01:31:22.310
don't know. What's that platypus thing over there? A platypus?
1407
01:31:23.470 --> 01:31:24.170
Platypus from there?
1408
01:31:24.289 --> 01:31:29.159
Yeah, the platypus is a... Is a chimera.
1409
01:31:29.699 --> 01:31:34.409
Yeah, so platypus, all these weird Pokemon animals come from
1410
01:31:34.470 --> 01:31:39.090
that side of the line. And to me, it's like, okay, well,
1411
01:31:39.449 --> 01:31:41.369
on the normal side of the line, that's like the
1412
01:31:41.409 --> 01:31:41.789
whole world.
1413
01:31:41.810 --> 01:31:42.970
Oh, platypus, yeah, right.
1414
01:31:44.109 --> 01:31:47.850
Then why is Australia completely on its own? Why are
1415
01:31:47.899 --> 01:31:51.760
all the animals so fucking weird? It's almost like Australia
1416
01:31:51.859 --> 01:31:55.319
is like too close to the other server, like.
1417
01:31:55.180 --> 01:31:56.039
The other Earth.
1418
01:31:57.380 --> 01:32:01.680
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, some weird animals from that server,
1419
01:32:01.960 --> 01:32:05.350
that modded lobby, spill over into ours, you know?
1420
01:32:05.899 --> 01:32:08.670
As you said that, your camera kind of glitched out
1421
01:32:08.710 --> 01:32:13.989
for a second, bro. It was weird. Maybe, yeah. Are
1422
01:32:14.029 --> 01:32:15.350
you real, Longo?
1423
01:32:16.789 --> 01:32:17.890
Oh, I'm Israel already.
1424
01:32:19.770 --> 01:32:20.130
Israel.
1425
01:32:20.979 --> 01:32:21.489
Israel.
1426
01:32:23.060 --> 01:32:24.140
Yeah. So.
1427
01:32:24.750 --> 01:32:27.850
No, I didn't know about this, but it would make sense, right?
1428
01:32:27.949 --> 01:32:30.329
So, yeah, because, look, you got the tiger over here.
1429
01:32:30.350 --> 01:32:35.029
You got certain birds here, and then it's just, what
1430
01:32:35.090 --> 01:32:38.029
the hell is that thing? You know, what the hell
1431
01:32:38.090 --> 01:32:38.750
is even that?
1432
01:32:39.630 --> 01:32:42.130
That ain't chill.
1433
01:32:42.630 --> 01:32:47.010
And then you got a poisonous mammal beaver-looking thing with
1434
01:32:47.069 --> 01:32:51.130
a duck bill. That is a Pokemon, dude. That's Psyduck, right?
1435
01:32:51.350 --> 01:32:56.810
Is it Psyduck? Let's see here. Psyduck. Yeah.
1436
01:32:56.829 --> 01:32:57.170
Psyduck.
1437
01:32:57.630 --> 01:32:59.149
That's Psyduck right there, dude.
1438
01:33:00.029 --> 01:33:00.550
Snorlax.
1439
01:33:01.270 --> 01:33:01.750
Yeah.
1440
01:33:02.989 --> 01:33:03.409
Mewtwo.
1441
01:33:04.449 --> 01:33:10.390
So interesting. But again, you could definitely hide an island nowadays.
1442
01:33:11.050 --> 01:33:13.689
Can you really trust Google Earth? You know, all the
1443
01:33:13.729 --> 01:33:17.529
people who find sea monsters and things on Google Earth
1444
01:33:18.029 --> 01:33:20.149
and they point out like, oh, look at this. It
1445
01:33:20.170 --> 01:33:22.010
looks like the head of a snake here. Have you
1446
01:33:22.029 --> 01:33:26.800
seen all those people that? Like pareidolia maxing the whole time?
1447
01:33:26.859 --> 01:33:31.579
Yeah, I hate it. It's so annoying.
1448
01:33:32.180 --> 01:33:36.159
So again, we can propose the idea that, back again
1449
01:33:36.220 --> 01:33:39.539
to what I mentioned at the beginning, to the uninitiated,
1450
01:33:40.899 --> 01:33:47.149
the regular person, the non-elite, no money-having person, to us,
1451
01:33:48.050 --> 01:33:51.670
perhaps we're the uninitiated to them. And they are the
1452
01:33:51.750 --> 01:33:55.119
initiates where they're able to see where maybe perhaps, I mean,
1453
01:33:55.359 --> 01:34:00.479
we've heard the stories of Admiral Byrd in Antarctica and
1454
01:34:00.550 --> 01:34:06.010
the underground tunnels and maybe hollow earth, right? That ties
1455
01:34:06.050 --> 01:34:12.149
directly into Florida as well with the Khoroshans, right? That
1456
01:34:12.170 --> 01:34:15.170
was the name of Khoroshanity, where the dude zapped himself
1457
01:34:15.250 --> 01:34:18.949
to where he believed he was Jesus Christ, the reincarnation
1458
01:34:18.970 --> 01:34:19.569
of Jesus Christ.
1459
01:34:20.390 --> 01:34:23.920
Where they talked about a hollow earth. We've heard that
1460
01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:24.579
before as well.
1461
01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:28.579
And again, that's another form of, I guess, not Phantom Island,
1462
01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:35.130
but I guess alternate reality or something. But no, I
1463
01:34:35.109 --> 01:34:41.130
100% believe that there maybe is a metaphysical aspect to this,
1464
01:34:41.649 --> 01:34:47.449
to where who knows if people say Epstein didn't kill himself,
1465
01:34:48.090 --> 01:34:54.300
maybe he's hanging out with Maxwell on their hidden hyperspace
1466
01:34:54.340 --> 01:34:59.109
kingdom somewhere where only they're able to tap into it.
1467
01:34:59.869 --> 01:35:01.890
Well, you know, if you want to tie it into
1468
01:35:01.930 --> 01:35:07.489
Epstein even more, what's this place that Peter Pan lives? Neverland?
1469
01:35:09.329 --> 01:35:10.050
Is that Neverland?
1470
01:35:10.369 --> 01:35:10.600
Is it?
1471
01:35:11.810 --> 01:35:13.149
Oh, no, I know what you're talking about.
1472
01:35:15.149 --> 01:35:17.479
It's like Youth Island or some shit like that. What's
1473
01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:21.239
it called? Guys, where does Peter Pan live? Isn't this nice?
1474
01:35:21.300 --> 01:35:25.260
My chat is better than Then ChatGPT. My chat is
1475
01:35:25.300 --> 01:35:28.460
better than a Google search. I just got to wait
1476
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:29.699
five seconds and I get.
1477
01:35:29.720 --> 01:35:34.039
It's Neverland, I think, the place that he's in.
1478
01:35:36.470 --> 01:35:36.789
Neverland.
1479
01:35:36.869 --> 01:35:37.250
Okay, yeah.
1480
01:35:37.449 --> 01:35:43.130
Sorry. Captain Hook, The Lost Boys. So there is something
1481
01:35:43.210 --> 01:35:46.170
to the whole Epstein thing because Neverland was a bit
1482
01:35:46.210 --> 01:35:47.170
of a phantom island.
1483
01:35:48.250 --> 01:35:48.470
Yeah.
1484
01:35:48.770 --> 01:35:49.520
Wasn't it? Mm-hmm.
1485
01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:57.960
An imaginary faraway place where Peter Pan and Tinkerbell and Captain...
1486
01:35:57.859 --> 01:36:01.210
And the Lost Boys, almost like the Island Boys, right?
1487
01:36:01.250 --> 01:36:04.909
And their other imaginary beings. And that's where, dude, that's
1488
01:36:04.949 --> 01:36:08.069
where it gets into Bruno, right? So let's get schizo
1489
01:36:08.090 --> 01:36:11.310
because this is where the hermetic... The Guno. This is
1490
01:36:11.329 --> 01:36:15.840
where the hermetic tradition comes into place because imagination and
1491
01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:20.170
memory take on a whole different meaning. to where you
1492
01:36:20.210 --> 01:36:26.890
can use imagination to bridge, uh, you know, the reality, the,
1493
01:36:27.069 --> 01:36:28.609
I guess you could call it the unreal and the
1494
01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:33.100
real together. And even, uh, who was it? It was
1495
01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:36.279
Kepler or somebody, one of these guys, they talked about
1496
01:36:36.340 --> 01:36:42.899
how thought is quicker than anything we know of. It's
1497
01:36:42.939 --> 01:36:45.420
quicker than the speed of light. You can imagine yourself
1498
01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:48.229
in different places in different areas, uh, Or you can
1499
01:36:48.310 --> 01:36:51.140
imagine yourself on top of the moon if you wanted to.
1500
01:36:51.159 --> 01:36:51.460
Whatever.
1501
01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:53.479
You just think about it and you're there.
1502
01:36:53.500 --> 01:36:56.859
It's kind of like Mercury. It's kind of like Mercury.
1503
01:36:56.899 --> 01:37:00.060
Mercury rules thinking, but he's also the fast one. He's
1504
01:37:00.100 --> 01:37:02.060
also the runner, you know?
1505
01:37:02.770 --> 01:37:03.989
That's all with the winged shoes, right?
1506
01:37:04.829 --> 01:37:08.529
I think so, yeah. Mercury, Hermes, Nike, a little bit.
1507
01:37:10.489 --> 01:37:14.909
So, could somebody have... Again, he thought we were... Busy Island, right?
1508
01:37:20.180 --> 01:37:22.239
I'm about a bus.
1509
01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:28.550
You say bussy. All right, not bus. Bussy. What the
1510
01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:30.869
hell do I call Bucky's? Yeah, I call it Bussy's.
1511
01:37:31.430 --> 01:37:34.449
And my wife's like, what the hell did you say?
1512
01:37:34.489 --> 01:37:34.729
CC33.
1513
01:37:35.890 --> 01:37:36.909
Let's go to Bussy's.
1514
01:37:38.109 --> 01:37:39.489
Bucky's. Yeah, Bucky's.
1515
01:37:39.590 --> 01:37:39.710
CC33.
1516
01:37:39.770 --> 01:37:51.550
No. He's probably amazing, 100%. So, again, I think it's
1517
01:37:51.630 --> 01:37:55.630
all possible. I think that there are elites with access
1518
01:37:55.670 --> 01:38:01.119
to these places. Maybe there is some underwater base somewhere
1519
01:38:01.680 --> 01:38:06.079
off of Epstein's Island. That's where the real shenanigans went down,
1520
01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:08.899
if you want to believe all that. We talked about
1521
01:38:09.140 --> 01:38:11.960
actual phantom islands that people don't really talk about. Bermuda.
1522
01:38:12.619 --> 01:38:15.409
Bermuda is a known island that nobody talks about. And
1523
01:38:15.430 --> 01:38:19.500
Bermuda is super wealthy. There's a large concentration of wealth
1524
01:38:19.619 --> 01:38:24.750
in Bermuda. Nobody talks about them. Almost like they're off
1525
01:38:24.789 --> 01:38:26.550
the map and they're just chilling.
1526
01:38:27.850 --> 01:38:34.180
All that money's disappearing into the Bermuda. Triangle yeah Bermuda
1527
01:38:34.260 --> 01:38:38.399
is pretty interesting it's like bro American.
1528
01:38:38.180 --> 01:38:44.189
A GDP of 8.9 billion okay 8.9 billion how big
1529
01:38:44.210 --> 01:38:59.079
is Bermuda 21 square miles, $ 8. 9 billion.
1530
01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:04.729
That is wild, dude. That is crazy.
1531
01:39:04.729 --> 01:39:07.029
20 miles is not that big square miles.
1532
01:39:07.090 --> 01:39:07.390
Okay.
1533
01:39:08.909 --> 01:39:13.029
But, and you think about like, Hey, how'd they get
1534
01:39:13.069 --> 01:39:15.560
so much wealth? I mean, use your imagination. They're probably
1535
01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:18.939
holding all the offshore accounts for all the biggest people
1536
01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:19.779
in the world, dude.
1537
01:39:23.829 --> 01:39:26.609
Yeah, I got to go to Bermuda. It's pretty interesting.
1538
01:39:27.909 --> 01:39:28.649
Yeah, Bermuda.
1539
01:39:28.829 --> 01:39:33.170
So it's, well, 181 islands. It's an archipelago.
1540
01:39:33.890 --> 01:39:35.260
See, I didn't even know that. I didn't know it
1541
01:39:35.270 --> 01:39:37.619
was an archipelago. I thought it was one place. Yeah.
1542
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:40.220
A British island territory. That makes sense.
1543
01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:43.659
Man, they still own that shit? That close to us?
1544
01:39:43.859 --> 01:39:50.180
They still own that shit, bro. They still own it. So.
1545
01:39:51.840 --> 01:39:53.640
Let's check out their beaches. I think they have beaches
1546
01:39:53.699 --> 01:39:58.659
with pink sand. Horseshoe Bay. Look at this. Pink sand.
1547
01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:00.479
Look at that.
1548
01:40:03.100 --> 01:40:03.800
That's interesting.
1549
01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:06.670
I'll take the quartz sand, the baby powder sand any day.
1550
01:40:09.050 --> 01:40:10.489
You know damn about pink sand.
1551
01:40:11.369 --> 01:40:13.489
Did you go to Siesta Key or any of those
1552
01:40:13.510 --> 01:40:15.609
beaches when you were over there? You said you went
1553
01:40:15.630 --> 01:40:16.109
to Clearwater?
1554
01:40:16.369 --> 01:40:18.529
I went to Clearwater, but yeah, we just stayed on
1555
01:40:19.930 --> 01:40:21.930
We stayed at an Airbnb on the beach, and we
1556
01:40:21.949 --> 01:40:25.109
just went to Clearwater. Nice. We didn't go anywhere else.
1557
01:40:26.189 --> 01:40:32.439
Clearwater's sand's pretty nice, but, yeah, Siesta Key's got that perfect, pure.
1558
01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:33.649
The quartz.
1559
01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:35.539
That coquina.
1560
01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:36.659
Yeah, bro.
1561
01:40:36.739 --> 01:40:38.319
No, it was still nice.
1562
01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:40.460
I liked it, though. It was nice. It was just
1563
01:40:40.520 --> 01:40:45.180
raining a lot that week. Like two days of straight rain,
1564
01:40:45.420 --> 01:40:47.460
so the water wasn't as clear as it usually is,
1565
01:40:47.539 --> 01:40:52.829
but it is what it is. Anyways, yes.
1566
01:40:53.210 --> 01:40:54.989
So I suggest.
1567
01:40:55.949 --> 01:40:57.649
Taking a trip to Bus Island.
1568
01:40:57.890 --> 01:41:02.750
To Busy. Yeah, we can go to Busy Island. And
1569
01:41:04.609 --> 01:41:05.550
there's nothing on it, bro.
1570
01:41:06.609 --> 01:41:09.760
Just this. A Thomas Shepard came to have explored and
1571
01:41:09.819 --> 01:41:14.039
mapped the island from Golden Line of Dunkirk in 1671.
1572
01:41:14.039 --> 01:41:18.260
As Atlantic traffic increased, the island's existence was less certain and.
1573
01:41:18.220 --> 01:41:20.079
Its supposed size was greatly reduced.
1574
01:41:20.829 --> 01:41:24.060
By 1745, it was apparent there was no island at
1575
01:41:24.100 --> 01:41:29.300
the site claimed, and it was renamed Sunken Land of Bus.
1576
01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:34.060
We've all been there. We've all been there, guys.
1577
01:41:34.600 --> 01:41:39.159
As the supposed area was relatively shallow. The island or
1578
01:41:39.300 --> 01:41:42.689
site of Sunken Island persisted on charts into the 19th century.
1579
01:41:43.250 --> 01:41:46.210
Its existence at the location was finally disproved by John
1580
01:41:46.310 --> 01:41:51.270
Ross and Isabella in 1818 during his first Arctic expedition,
1581
01:41:51.930 --> 01:41:59.539
finding no depth at 180 fathoms, 33, uh, 330 meters
1582
01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:04.600
of course. So, you know, I think about that too,
1583
01:42:04.659 --> 01:42:07.779
where maybe some of these islands, cause an island can
1584
01:42:07.859 --> 01:42:09.880
form if there's like a volcano, right?
1585
01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:12.649
It erupts like a Hawaii.
1586
01:42:13.270 --> 01:42:16.390
It keeps going and growing, but for an island to disappear, uh,
1587
01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:20.369
Was it a sandbar? But then if it was a sandbar,
1588
01:42:20.409 --> 01:42:21.810
would it have been that pronounced?
1589
01:42:22.710 --> 01:42:22.989
Right?
1590
01:42:23.470 --> 01:42:25.510
Were sea levels rising around this time?
1591
01:42:25.569 --> 01:42:26.189
Probably not.
1592
01:42:27.430 --> 01:42:31.810
Hey, man. Something mystical. Like, what's that book called? Is
1593
01:42:31.850 --> 01:42:34.380
it called The Smoky God or The Iron?
1594
01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:35.439
The Smoky God.
1595
01:42:35.460 --> 01:42:36.050
One of those two.
1596
01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:37.979
That's the one about the mountain, though.
1597
01:42:39.659 --> 01:42:42.000
Well, there's another one. What about The Iron Republic? Is
1598
01:42:42.039 --> 01:42:45.850
that the other one? I forget which one is when
1599
01:42:45.859 --> 01:42:49.289
they like, sail into this, like, misty land and, like,
1600
01:42:49.609 --> 01:42:50.210
find a new.
1601
01:42:50.710 --> 01:42:52.069
Oh, the smoky god.
1602
01:42:52.689 --> 01:42:52.930
Okay.
1603
01:42:54.149 --> 01:42:54.670
Pretty sure.
1604
01:42:54.789 --> 01:42:59.130
It's about, yeah, Lumeria and stuff. A voyage to the
1605
01:42:59.170 --> 01:43:04.529
inner world. Emerson presents a purported true account. Again, a
1606
01:43:04.689 --> 01:43:09.090
true account based on true events of a Norwegian sailor
1607
01:43:09.109 --> 01:43:13.260
named Olaf Jansen who allegedly sailed through a polar opening
1608
01:43:13.300 --> 01:43:16.890
into the hollow interior of the Earth. Inside, you discovered
1609
01:43:16.930 --> 01:43:22.829
an advanced subterranean civilization and a central glowing smoky sun.
1610
01:43:24.090 --> 01:43:25.729
Is that the one that you're thinking about?
1611
01:43:25.750 --> 01:43:26.689
The smoky god?
1612
01:43:27.510 --> 01:43:31.710
Yeah, so it's kind of like that. But, uh, alright, Juan.
1613
01:43:32.630 --> 01:43:35.590
I'm gonna wrap it up. Wrap up a little early tonight.
1614
01:43:35.970 --> 01:43:38.069
I'm a little extra sleepy.
1615
01:43:40.500 --> 01:43:43.020
Smoked some extra skunk ape kush, bro.
1616
01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:45.939
I'm smoking that smoky got type shit.
1617
01:43:46.079 --> 01:43:46.539
All right.
1618
01:43:47.539 --> 01:43:53.199
Trying to get. Well, guys, thanks for joining us. Thanks
1619
01:43:53.239 --> 01:44:00.399
for joining us. As we learn about Antilia, very under recognized,
1620
01:44:00.500 --> 01:44:05.539
underappreciated piece of history, a step along the way in
1621
01:44:05.560 --> 01:44:11.239
the discovery of the Americas. And yeah, Antilia really cool.
1622
01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:13.619
Something I guess we didn't get to focus too much
1623
01:44:13.779 --> 01:44:21.680
on is Antilia basically is the Spanish Atlantis, the Iberian Atlantis, right?
1624
01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:29.770
But all right. So got 414 people in the chat.
1625
01:44:31.670 --> 01:44:34.949
Thanks for tuning in, y'all. Appreciate it. And I'll see
1626
01:44:35.010 --> 01:44:40.270
you on Saturday with Merlin, probably. And I'll see you
1627
01:44:40.289 --> 01:44:43.210
back on Thursday with Juan. Juan, what are you up
1628
01:44:43.250 --> 01:44:46.289
to this week or last week? What's new?
1629
01:44:48.050 --> 01:44:50.890
I killed, uh, 33 gopher tortoises this week.
1630
01:44:51.689 --> 01:44:54.739
Mm-hmm. Well, we don't know if they're... Well, no, see, Juan,
1631
01:44:54.760 --> 01:44:57.199
the good thing about tortoises is when you bury them
1632
01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:03.000
under pavement, they actually have an internal, um, like, resp... Like,
1633
01:45:03.689 --> 01:45:08.829
they can basically, like, stay sealed in... This is real,
1634
01:45:08.850 --> 01:45:09.329
I'm not joking.
1635
01:45:10.810 --> 01:45:10.880
Uh.
1636
01:45:11.670 --> 01:45:15.069
Tortoises and turtles can be trapped in a place with, like,
1637
01:45:15.630 --> 01:45:19.689
no food, no water, no air, and they can live for, like,
1638
01:45:19.899 --> 01:45:23.899
ten years. Do you know that? If you build... This
1639
01:45:23.939 --> 01:45:24.579
is a real thing.
1640
01:45:25.020 --> 01:45:25.960
I've seen that. I've seen that.
1641
01:45:26.340 --> 01:45:30.640
Turtles and tortoises built into houses or, like, you know,
1642
01:45:30.920 --> 01:45:35.479
trapped because of a construction, and then, like, ten years later,
1643
01:45:36.119 --> 01:45:38.800
they knock down a wall or, like, pull up a tile,
1644
01:45:39.560 --> 01:45:40.800
and there's a fucking....
1645
01:45:41.710 --> 01:45:42.010
Turtle.
1646
01:45:42.890 --> 01:45:44.710
Like, still alive, you know?
1647
01:45:45.029 --> 01:45:45.250
Yeah.
1648
01:45:45.270 --> 01:45:48.489
I'm sure they find dead ones, but those things can, like,
1649
01:45:48.729 --> 01:45:55.739
hibernate forever. So, there's always hope for them.
1650
01:45:57.060 --> 01:45:59.119
No, I would never kill a gopher tortoise. I'd make
1651
01:45:59.159 --> 01:46:04.640
sure to take them out before we pave over them. Underground. So,
1652
01:46:04.680 --> 01:46:07.970
how long can a tortoise live underground? They can live
1653
01:46:08.060 --> 01:46:16.260
up to weeks to several consecutive months. Yeah, bro. And
1654
01:46:16.300 --> 01:46:17.890
they spent 80% of their life underground.
1655
01:46:18.350 --> 01:46:18.569
Now.
1656
01:46:18.590 --> 01:46:26.369
Yeah, it's pretty crazy. No. No gopher tortoises were harmed
1657
01:46:26.390 --> 01:46:29.850
in the making of anything. I'm just kidding. Yeah.
1658
01:46:31.670 --> 01:46:34.680
Well, guys, go subscribe to the Wan on Wan podcast
1659
01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:39.079
if you haven't already. And Juan did a very exciting
1660
01:46:39.180 --> 01:46:46.140
show with Kurt Metzger and Duncan Trussell, Your Mom's House.
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01:46:46.520 --> 01:46:49.409
Hang on. That's not us talking to each other. That's
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the actual Your Mom's House podcast YouTube channel. Go check
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out Juan on a very big.
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Ooh, damn.
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Look at the spider. Ooh. That shit almost... That shit
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almost climbed right on me.
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It almost bit me, dude.
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It's on my phone. So, yeah, guys, go check out
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Juan on Your Mom's House to see Juan on a
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big stage. Very exciting opportunity. And he did a really
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good job on that interview.
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Thanks, bro.
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So did you. I listened to the one that you
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did with Kurt, and it was good. I enjoyed it.
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It was good.
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It was good. It was good.
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It was good.
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It was good. Alright, guys. Everyone, have a good night.
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See you later. Peace.