Dreebo Opens Up About Ogden Drive and the Power of Reinvention

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Building with us right now. I've been waiting for this
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conversation so long.
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Man looks at the homie. I like to call him
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the cheat code. This songwriter, rapper, producer, former, you know,
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father dream Bow is in the house and Homie up.
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How y'all do man? I appreciate you'all having me. Definitely
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been a uh, some time in the making. So I'm
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glad we made them. Man.
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So like I said, I'm just I'm looking forward to
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having this conversation, bro, because I feel like you can
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hear it in the music, and I'm sure people.
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Are here throughout this conversation. Man.
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You you I call you the cheat coach because you
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have a lot a lot you wear a lot of hats,
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but also you get the cheat code on life.
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Bro.
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You appreciate that INVA music. I love that, And it's.
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A lot of inner talk when you when you when
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you're listening to your music, and I want to know
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first and foremost. I'm sure it's intentional, but for you,
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where did that that inner conversation kind of start up,
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like really like making sure that you're hyping yourself up
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throughout the low moments and just kind of making sure
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that you're keeping it going for yourself.
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I think I think a part of it is who
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I am and just like kind of me needing to
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give myself that and a lot of points in my life.
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And then also music starting out as just an opportunity
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for me to just get how I felt or what
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I wanted to say off Like you know, music, I
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always say music shows me because you know, I was
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playing football. I thought I was going to the NFL.
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I wasn't even thinking about music, you know what I mean.
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But it's just like I was in college. My homies,
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we just start rapping one of them may beats, and
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then next thing, you know, it's like I enjoy getting
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my thoughts out, you know what I mean. And so
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I think a lot of that stems from me getting
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my thoughts out and then just kind of like an
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affirmations thing of Like I always say that I talk
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to people that are on some type of journey, some
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type of life path, chasing after something like it could
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be music, it could be a nine to five, it
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could be whatever, entrepreneurship. Like, I feel like I speak
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to people that are on some type of journey chasing something.
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Yeah, it's it's I think it's needed too, I think.
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But again, you talk about people kind of being on
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that journey as well, and I find myself often listening
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to the music, I'm.
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Like, yo, it came right on time.
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Needed to appreciate it.
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This day, my favorite track still, and I'll tell you
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all the time is Anxiety bro Man.
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Other day at Hollywood Park and city. I run that
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ran up my man.
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Just just you know, relatable music and it just feels
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good to hear that. Ogden Drive your project that is
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technically out. I mean by the time this is out, yeah,
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for sure, you know going.
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And stream that. But you call this your most personal project.
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The DNA the DNA the DNA for sure.
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For the folks that don't know what aggen Drive is,
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and I know you kind of spoke on it and
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kind of put this stuff on your website, but break
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down with how how important agen Drive is and why
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this uh uh, this project is that personal for you.
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Yeah. So Ogden Drive is the street I was born on,
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you know street I spent like the first eight years
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of my life, and it was a pivotal, like prominent
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name that street in my life because I have older brothers.
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I'm the youngest, and uh they spent a lot of
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their time there too. So a lot of our just
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like family times and stories came from our time on
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that street, in that house and my whole life. That
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street was kind of bittersweet, right because it had fun
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memories that we had, but that's also where my parents split,
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so a lot of memories are tied into those moments
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associated with that which were not so pleasant, you know
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what I mean. Fast forward twenty years later, I moved
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back to La. I'm randomly like, I'm going to do
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a little job with this company in mid City for songwriting,
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and I'm trying to beat traffic and I bust through
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to a little side street. It's crazy because usually, like
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prior to this, i'm visiting La, I always just drive
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by that street because I always told myself, like, one
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day I'm gona buy that house, all right. Yeah, So
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this time I really wasn't trying to drive by it.
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I was just beating traffic, and I'm driving by it,
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and then I see another spot literally five houses down.
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I ended up getting that spot five houses down from
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where I used to live and lived there for like
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four years, me and my wife. I was able to
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have my daughter in La, bringing her home to that
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same street that I was born on, five houses down
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and kind of like rewrite the narrative of what that
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street meant to me and my family, you know what
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I mean, Because now when we talk about that street,
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we think about memories that me and my wife created
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while we were living there, versus the past ones that
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wasn't so pleasant.
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It's like pleasant not so pleasant now backed with more pleasantness.
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With a new meaning, you know what I mean. So
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it's like rewriting. The narrative is growth, you know what
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I mean, and just kind of new life. But it's
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the craziest part about it is that I also created
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new life there through my daughter, you know what I mean.
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So it was kind of crazy. And so as I
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made this music and I was preparing this music, a
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lot of the music kind of felt like me talking
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to myself in the music, and so the concept kind
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of just birthed itself.
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Honestly, man, I love that.
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Man Again, just the explanation of alone allows us to
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kind of get into the inner thoughts of a dri bow, right,
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And I feel like this is something that's always been
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intentional with you, like conversations that you have, like you know,
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I'm a fan, bro, and I love what you do
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on all kind of fronts, so even you know, and
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we'll get into it, the whole making a song a
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day for three hundred.
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And sixty five days crazy, that's their entry point from
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for sure. Some people like you said, know you as
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as the athlete, you know what I mean.
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Let's talk about that transition though, you know, being an
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athlete and that being so heavy a part of your identity.
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What was that like for you to be like, Okay,
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well damn, now, this is this new path that I
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want to kind of explore.
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You know, it's something that's that you know, I'm not
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going to be doing this anymore.
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Did you have a hard time kind of adapting to
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that and accepting that, and then also with your family,
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how did they kind of.
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Like accept this new route that you were taking.
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Yeah, I think it was hard for everybody, like family, friends, myself,
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just like because you're one thing for so much of
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your life. Like from seven years old to twenty four
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years old, I was a football player, you know what
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I mean, and a really good football player, Like you know,
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people expected me to do more than I actually did.
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And you know, I got to a point in my
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career where I was I had four surgeries in five years,
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and the injury bug got me and it was like
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decision time. By that time, I had started making music
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just for fun, you know, So I was like, all right,
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I'm about to graduate. Do I pursue music, do I
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get a job? Whatever the case may be, Right, so
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I was pursuing firefighting while still making music, while deciding
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if I'm gonna try to get healthy and go to
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the league, you know what I mean, And so stop
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playing football, transitioned to working like you know, our jobs,
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sports authority of the different little companies and shit, just
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doing what I can. And then went and got a
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tech job and was kind of on the nine to
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five world and just it didn't really like feel me
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the way I needed. And so when I jumped into
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music completely, I think it was kind of like a
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little bit of adjustment for my family because I was
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already in the tech world and I was doing pretty good,
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and so it's like, why not keep growing in that world?
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Good job, Yeah, you know.
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What I mean. You use your degree like it makes
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sense a technical communication.
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It's like you're writing a story right there. Yeah, so
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got your past.
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So everybody kind of like, you know, but my family,
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luckily for me, it's like I gotta I gotta real like,
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as long as you're going hard at something, we're gonna
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support you. Family, you feel me. So my family was
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always behind me and what I did. I think the
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publicly that transition was a little hard too, because you know,
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you're viewed as one thing and then next thing, you know,
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it's like, hey, listen to my music, you know. So
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I think it took some time. But luckily for me,
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while I was in college, I was on Vine when
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Vine was crazy, so my audience was already mixed. Like
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some people knew me for rapping on Vine. They didn't
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even know who the fuck like the football player was,
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you know, so it made it a little bit easier
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for me to jump out the window publicly. Yeah.
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I mean, you're you're building an audience too of strangers
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at that point, so it's like, if you're speaking to
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this audience, you don't really get a chance to really
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hear the chatter of the folks that may have a
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harder time going on. Of course you'll see it, but
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you kind of just focused over here.
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And I'm sure it's ten times are the if your family,
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the people you directly deal with all the time are
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the ones that are like less embracing.
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From what you can remember.
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Well, and you said you were doing that at seven
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years old, so I would imagine they were really encouraging
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you playing sports for sure, right, So I was going
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to say, was that adjustment kind of hard? For them
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to see you go that route versus a traditional.
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Going to college, get a degree, get a regular job,
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or they did.
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They embrace the athlete side of you as well, like, okay,
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go to the league, do the NFL thing.
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Well, the athletes I was always embraced because that just
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kept us out the streets. So that's like, yeah, they
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was all like, shit, don't care what you do with it,
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as long as you are not running the streets like
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the rest of everybody else, you know, so.
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Go to the fall field.
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Literally, you feel me. So I think either way. My
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mom was just like I got to figure out how
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to keep my mom. You know, she's a single mom.
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So it's like she's just like she got these folk kids,
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it's just her and they're all like different ages and
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stages of their life, and it's like it could go
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you know, we're in LA, it could go one or
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two ways. So she found a way to keep us busy,
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and she moved us to the west side and just
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kept us out the way.
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If your mom could describe the kid that you were
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four boys.
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Yeah, well this was more.
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But I get complicated out of all the kids your
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mom for your mom, the papas rolled the stall. But
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from your mom's side, what would your mom say the kid?
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How would she describe.
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Boo me then.
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Or even now? Like who?
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Every everybody has their own character in the personality you.
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You already know that right your daughter is developing her
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she has that person.
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You can already see certain things.
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And sure, so what's that one thing that it could
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be your family that you're the You're the blank son,
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I think I've always been this, this the one that's
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gonna do what you want. I think that's one thing
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in a rebel sense. And just so like you can't
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you ain't gonna be able to push him to something,
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he gonna do it, and you learn to accept that
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he's gonna do what you want. That out come gonna
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be whatever's gonna be, and he gonna accept that and
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you gotta accept that the same way and he gonna
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figure it out though, Like I think, I think that's
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that's who I've always been, and I think that's who
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she she'd said I was too.
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No, I was gonna say you started doing music to
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be able to express yourself. When did you really lock
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in and be like, oh, I got something.
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To be honest, My first like real song where I
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shot a video for was probably where I felt like, huh,
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I think I got something. I was in college, like
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and one of my homies he was like taking film class,
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so we're just like, all right, let's shoot a little video.
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Went to the basketball game. We shooting a little video
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on campus and shit, and this song was called I'm
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Already Knowing. And then fast forward, I'll be walking on
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campus going to class and people would be for the
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other side of Caldy. I was like, wait, yeah, So
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that kind of drove me to make more music. And
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then as I was making more, it like I was like,
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hold on, I think I could get really good at this,
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you know. And I always felt like I had a
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taste for music because it was just so heavy in
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my life via football, like pregame, post game bus rides.
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I'm always consuming music, and I always tell people now, like,
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the more music you listen to, the better you can
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be at making music. So I think I had already
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had a subconscious head start just being a big fan
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of music and having a wide range. So I would
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say like shit, that was like twenty twelve, and then
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from there it was like, all right, just keep following
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that interest, and I just kept making music and then
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I really didn't even commit to it till like five
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years later, But at that moment, I never stopped making
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it because of that moment.
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That's so as you're making music and kind of like
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going through this journey in this path and you know,
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shitting the football life and kind of going the direction
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of like I'm really committing to this. Was wearing multiple
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hats a necessity or was it something that just was
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natural to you?
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Hmm. I think it's natural because of my entrepreneurial spirit,
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because you know, both my parents were entrepreneurs. Even though
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my mom transitioned and went into the nine to five,
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but my dad he kept being an entrepreneur. He had
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a restaurant. So that part of it, I think was
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already ingrained in me to like do it all, know
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how to do it all, and figure it out right.
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But I think it got faster because of the randomness.
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Like I was in one school in Kansas and I
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transferred to another school in Missouri, right, and I was
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supposed to live in a one bedroom studio by myself,
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do my little year, come back to LA and be
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like peace out random. I went to this school because
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my coach coached my brother in high school and he
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was from LA. So I'm like, okay, cool, some familiarity there.
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So I go to this school and my studio's not ready,
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so he like, just go live over there a couple
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of months, it'll be ready. You good. He sent me
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over here just so happens. The only other three people
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from LA that are on the team how to get here.
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So I go to this house and I'm like, fuck,
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I got to live with people because I really just
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didn't want no roommates. I'm like whatever, So boom, I
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find out they're from LA. I'm like, oh, this is cool.
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Like one of them I played against in high school.
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I didn't even know I played against in the high school.
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Like yeah, literally though, and so we ended up messing
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and I'm like fuck it, I'm gonna just stay here.
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And literally my roommate he was a producer, and he
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literally showed me how to produce, make music, record myself,
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like he gave me the blueprint and yeah, literally, and
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then my other roommate he sang, and another one was
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just like you know, hype man type shit. But we
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would always just be clowning around because he had to
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beat machine. One had to beat machine, and one would
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be just singing hooks randomly and shit. So then he
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the one that was a producer who showed me everything.
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We moved into a bigger house and he ended up
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making one of the rooms the studio, and that literally
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was the birth of dreambo everything. Literally.
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So wait, was he working on hardware at the time
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or was.
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This Yeah, he had fruity loose and he had like
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a MPC or some shit. It was like legit, he was.
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He knew what he was doing. He was the only
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one that knew it. Not and I no more, but
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he knew what he was doing at that time. And
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so him choosing to go get a computer and a
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mic and the program and set it up like I
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think it was like Adobe audition or some shit like
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it was. It was like and he set it up
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and he showed me how to work it, and when
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I when I learned how to record myself. So we
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ended up being like the team house. All the homies
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would come over were making music, and I used to
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be in there literally to like three am in the morning,
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go to sleep, wake up at six am, go to
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practice and then just do it all over again. And
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I just I fell in love with it.
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Damn no.
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So I mean yeah, because a lot of times you
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hear people's story and saying, oh, well, you know, I
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was on the journey to wrap it and now you know,
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I need some beats, and I you know, I couldn't
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get no. I had to figure it out or I
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needed an engineer, and I had to figure out how
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to record myself.
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That that ended up being the case later down the line,
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and my work rate ended up being too fast for
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the people I was working with. It's like about that
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I couldn't I couldn't get enough. I couldn't get enough beats.
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And it was like it was a point where I
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understood the business side of like make sure you can
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own the music that you're putting out, because I have
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put out music that I can't own before. And I
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was like, Okay, I want to own the music, so
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therefore I need original beats. And the people that I
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could get original beats one just wasn't sending them fast enough.
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So I was like I got to figure out how
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to make the beats and.
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Not only make the beats, singing on them and.
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Then I had to figure out the engineering because I'm like,
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I'm not about to be paying three four, five, six,
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seven hundred dollars everything thousand dollars a set, Like I'm like,
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I can't do it even yeah, or that for mixing.
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But I'm saying even just the session to record or
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to mix them. And it's like when you just, I
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don't know, as an independent artist, you got to think
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like a business man too, right, And so you got
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a factor like, Okay, this money that I'm put in here,
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where could that be better utilized?
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Why do you think it's hard for a lot of
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people to adapt to that mentality of like, by any means,
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you know what I'm saying, I gotta make it happen.
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Like you could have.
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You could have just took the rout of saying, oh well,
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I ain't got nobody engineering, all right, Well okay, let
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me just I.
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Gotta spend some time over here.
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Some bullshit, or even all right, let me just do
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the tech route or whatever. Right, What do you think
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kind of pulled you into that and really like allowed
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you to say, now, I gotta figure this out.
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I just did. I developed a love for music, like
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and I think that is the initial driver, and then
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there's a piece of it where it's like I won't
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I want to leave a legacy around what I did
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in music, you know what I mean. And throughout my
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career there's been times where people tell me, like you
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said about anxiety, Like I was just in Atlanta and
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my cousin was telling me how self care I helped
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him through a crazy moment when he was going through
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a divorce, like, and there's plenty of times other times
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with other songs and I'm like, man, like what I'm
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doing is impactful, and so I think those drivers make
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me feel like I gotta figure it out. And there's
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been plenty of times where I'm like, you know what,
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I'm about to just pivot because I'm a multifaceted dude,
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So I really don't have to be like there's other
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things I could be doing in as well, but I
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feel like this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
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Gotch. So let's just hypothetical situation. If this ship.
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Didn't work out or wasn't working out, or if you
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had to pivot, what what would be the backup thing
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that you would do?
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Go back to the tech world.
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Yeah, I'm probably just gonna go get a job. I'm
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gonna go get tech. I'm gonna go use my degree,
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go get me a job, and probably just work up
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the ladder to try to be like a C level
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executive because they getting chilli up saying ship but you
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just didn't get out if you realize how much the
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person that check you're gonna be drop. And then nowadays
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so many jobs to work from home, like it's it's
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it's a better situation. So yeah, probably probably that, But
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I don't know I got I got such a strong
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entrepreneurial spirit. I don't know how long I would do that.
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I think it would still be a catalyst or a
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means to an end.
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Yeah, it'll always the music. Don't always pull you back
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in love it the way that you love it or like.
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I love it too.
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It's gonna always call you back.
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I always tell people. I'm like, man, I don't think
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there will be a day of the rest of my
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life where I don't make music, whether I put it
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out or not. That's I will always have a home studio,
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I will always be writing and producing music because it's
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just yeah.
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It's a way of life. At this point. It's exactly
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wake up rushing music.
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It's like having a kid. I don't even know what
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the hell life was on the life life was without music,
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like it was just I was existing. I don't know.
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Now let's get into the three sixty five. Oh yeah,
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what made you go on that run? Because that's very inspirational.
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I looked at it. That's when I got tapped into you.
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I was like, ain't no way. And I was like,
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but he did you hear about I've seen it on
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social media were circulating around. I was like, let me
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check out because I kept seeing your name. I'm like,
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let me check out, right, And.
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Then somebody it made three sixty five we got to
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see hold on.
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I was like, damn, he really could get into it.
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How funny is that? Though?
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Before you talk about that there, I'm sure you gained
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fans based off of people like this niggain't gonna do
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that shit?
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Oh for sure?
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You know what I'm saying, like, he real, this is sad.
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People was in the comments like ain't no way. I'm
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like at one point I was like, ain't no what?
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But I'm like those were the comments sound like I
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can't be that guy that just like pop thousand he
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was gonna do it in June July, right, he Look,
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So what happened y'all was it's really too Yeah, that's
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really but that's what I mean.
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YouTube thot two forty five, you see, and.
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That was the other piece. I'm like, man, I was thinking,
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mister three thousand. That was that movie was in my
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brain the whole time. I'm like, I cannot be missing
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three thousand because I can't go back. Ain't no going
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back and getting another hit. It's now never. And I'm like,
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if I'm gonna be three sixty five, I gotta hit
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three sixty five.
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Okay. So it's like she was saying, walk us through that.
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At what point did you decide I'm gonna take on
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this journey and talk because I've heard you speak on it,
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but really talk about.
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The process of doing that, and.
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When you realize like, oh shit, I really gotta constant
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this every man, Hey, I gotta I gotta do this.
489
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So from origin, it's really like twenty seventeen, right, I
490
00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:04.200
see the Gary V Nick Nip interview in the studio
491
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and they chopping it up and Gary V like, one
492
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day somebody just going start in January and drop a
493
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song every day for the whole year, and in that moment,
494
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I'm like, man, I could do that. That's me for real.
495
00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:17.720
I really felt I was like I could do that,
496
00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:21.759
but I didn't do it. Fast forward we in twenty
497
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twenty and COVID hit and I'm like, fuck, this is
498
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when I should be doing it. And part of me
499
00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:29.000
wanted to start in the middle of the year when
500
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it happened, because I don't think I think the world
501
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shut down like March. I realized that like May, and
502
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I'm like, oh, I could just start now and then
503
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go to May. But I'm like, it'd be more impactful
504
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if I go to January and then I just idea
505
00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:42.599
just went to the wayside. I'm like, fuck it, I'm
506
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gonna just do something else. Fast forward November of twenty twenty.
507
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I'm like, you know what, we don't know if the
508
00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:54.319
world going open back up. It's kind of opening up
509
00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:57.920
people still, and I'm like, the Internet is powerful right now,
510
00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:01.079
versus is going crazy. I'm like, you know what, I'm
511
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gonna just do it. I'm gonna start January twenty twenty one,
512
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.880
and I'm gonna do it. And so this was like
513
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late November, all of December I'm just recording. I had
514
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a few songs up, but I was just recording. So
515
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then by January first, I probably had fifty songs that
516
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:25.119
I all recorded, and mostly of them in December. So
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I was like boom okay, had all January lined up,
518
00:24:28.599 --> 00:24:30.160
figured out how I was gonna do it. I was
519
00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:33.200
paying my graphic due monthly. His son was making these
520
00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:36.079
little pain he was flipping them into the graphic ards,
521
00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.799
and we was just we created a formula where we
522
00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:41.640
could have the month done before the month came. That
523
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lasted six months, which is pretty good before Like so
524
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I was literally making the songs. So like January already said,
525
00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:54.720
so in January, I'm making February, February, I'm making March,
526
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et cetera. But then life hit the pace slow, ideas
527
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:02.079
a little slow. I'm still a husband, I'm still a son,
528
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I'm still a brother, I'm still a nephew. My aunt
529
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gets sick. I ended up going, she ended up passing.
530
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I go to a funeral in like June, I think,
531
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or late May something like that. I come back and
532
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I'm on the plane and I'm realizing, like, damn, I
533
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:21.000
got one. I got a song for tomorrow, and that's it.
534
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So then I had an interview when I got back,
535
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and I did like an interview as soon as I
536
00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:29.400
got back, and then I was like, all right, shit,
537
00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:31.519
I'm gonna just have to figure it out. So from
538
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June fifteenth through the rest of the year, I just
539
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:38.839
had to do it every day, damn. And the second
540
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:41.759
half was every single day because a lot of people would.
541
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You were doing it every single day. I mean, just
542
00:25:46.039 --> 00:25:48.599
knowing the process, I'm like, there's no way. So I've
543
00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:52.279
heard you speak on kind of having a certain amount
544
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ready in the beginning, I didn't realize that.
545
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That last half, Yeah, that whole sixth the last six
546
00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.960
months of the year was all wake up, what the
547
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.640
fuck you're gonna do today? Yeah, and literally and a
548
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lot of those were I was making the beats because
549
00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:08.519
I started running out of beach and so like I
550
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:10.440
probably did like if it was three and sixty five,
551
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I probably did like two hundred and I don't know
552
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:14.599
ten two fifteen of the beats myself.
553
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H It was.
554
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It was crazy, crazy, it was. It was. It was
555
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:20.720
a wild time and it was That's why I say
556
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:23.599
it was plenty of times where I'm like, hell no,
557
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:26.680
And then the craziest partly. This is the part I'm
558
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:29.440
really mad about because it's funny because shoutouts of t
559
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:31.519
Rel He was on back on FIG one time and
560
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:34.400
they was kind of going through that and they went
561
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to the playlist on Spotify, but the playlist is three
562
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.720
sixty four, so they're trying to serve me like I
563
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.599
do three sixty five. But what happened, well, No, I
564
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:45.119
had one song with a with a pretty big artist,
565
00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:46.519
and so I was like, I'm gonna say that for
566
00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:49.119
three sixty five for the last bring it Home, and
567
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:51.240
then she was cool with me putting it out, but
568
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:54.240
then her label took it down, so then it served
569
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:57.240
it on all platforms. But it's still on Spotify, but
570
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:02.079
I mean SoundCloud, but it's off like major platforms and
571
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:07.599
that fouche. Okay, Yeah, so she it's a dope record
572
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.160
still though you can get it on SoundCloud. But but
573
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I say that to say like it's it's just it
574
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.319
was so many little things that it's cool because it
575
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.079
made it what it was. And always, even in the
576
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:21.640
moment of doing that, I was like, this is gonna
577
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:25.440
be for five, six, seven x amount of years. You know,
578
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.759
this is gonna follow me forever, like this is bigger
579
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than that year, because even in that moment, I feel
580
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.440
like I'm like, why isn't this bigger? Why ain't more
581
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.079
people paying attention? Like this is crazy what I'm doing
582
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:37.720
right now? And then the quality of it, like I'm like,
583
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.039
I don't understand why, you know what I mean? But
584
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:44.519
fast forward, it was like my audience grew more after
585
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:45.799
it was done.
586
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.000
It's like it just kind of goes to show like
587
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.960
people they don't a lot of times people don't check
588
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:53.799
in real time what's going. For sure, it's a great service,
589
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:56.799
great for your resume. You know, at this point there's
590
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.720
people that they don't they don't have a world outside
591
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.519
of that, like that's their identity of you utiz like
592
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.519
it serves for that purpose, which is which is dope.
593
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.480
But I can I can see how in the moment,
594
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like it could serve as like like something that that
595
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:13.640
kind of keep motivates you to keep you going.
596
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:15.440
But it's like, damn, you ain't feeling to love like that.
597
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.279
It was depressed and that plenty of times where it's
598
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.799
just like I'm finna just stop because it feels like
599
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:23.079
nobody cares, you know what I mean. It's like, what
600
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:25.119
am I really doing this for it? But then I
601
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:27.279
just reminded myself in those moments, like this is for
602
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.400
me more than this for anybody else. And so part
603
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:32.759
of it was to prove to myself. Part of it
604
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.960
was to show my ability, and a part of it
605
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.480
was just like the outlandish aspect of it kind of kind.
606
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.279
Of said, but what do you feel like now looking
607
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:43.960
back at it five years now?
608
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:45.079
Yeah, five years?
609
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:47.079
What do you feel like you learned the most from
610
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:47.799
that experience?
611
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:57.839
Hm? Hmm. I learned so much, man. I just I
612
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:04.559
learned that consistent and see can impact you like universally
613
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.359
as a human. And I feel like like I feel
614
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.119
like I came out of that a better person, not
615
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.440
just a better artist, you know. So I think just
616
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.960
being consistent at something will change you in so many
617
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:20.119
different ways than you probably think. And that's from like
618
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.160
all different scale, you know what I mean. I think
619
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.119
I approached life even better because of that. I'm a
620
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.000
better husband, I'm a better you know what I mean,
621
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.039
Like because being consistent at that showed me that I
622
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:35.200
can be consistent at multiple things, you know. So now
623
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:39.200
I'm more conscious exactly a thousand percent. So now I'm
624
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:42.000
that way across the board and that made me a
625
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:43.359
better person just overall.
626
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:44.680
Would you do it again?
627
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:49.359
I thought about it. I don't know. I don't know, he.
628
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:50.119
Getting flashed back.
629
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:58.480
I really thought about it. I don't think. I don't think.
630
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:00.839
I just my life isn't set up to do it again.
631
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.480
So I don't think I would do it again. But
632
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.680
I have some things that I might do that are
633
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.799
kind of similar, and I just think, like, do it
634
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:15.079
again for what I did it already, but I could.
635
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:17.200
I think I could do it in a different form.
636
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.559
The video every Day, I don't know's I'm definitely playing
637
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:25.039
on that. Next year. I want to do like a
638
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:26.920
I really wanted to do it this year, but I
639
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.039
now the idea fast enough. But I want to do
640
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:31.920
like every day, drop a piece of content, bring a
641
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:35.440
new life back to that. So that's something I'm working
642
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:37.640
on behind the scenes. And then I also going to
643
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:39.480
do like some thirty for thirty type shit.
644
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:44.079
So you okay, I see something that said opening up
645
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:47.839
for Earth to Jerk was a memorable experience for you.
646
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.599
Why was that particular moment so memorable.
647
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:53.799
Because I was just my first ever show. That was
648
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.839
the first show I ever did. My homeboy, who don't
649
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.720
do no music, was my DJ. He just figuring it out.
650
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.839
But he just really pressed the space, like all you
651
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:07.359
gotta do is press space. Bar don't fuck this, So
652
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.759
shout out some shout out to g Man. That's why
653
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:12.799
my brother literally his son, my guy son, so like
654
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:16.200
we've been connected for a long time and he did
655
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.079
my first show with me, and like literally my brothers
656
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:21.599
was there. One of my brothers flew in from town
657
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:24.359
to town. My girl was there. It was like one
658
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.559
of the most lit shows, like and it was like
659
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.519
more of like a payday style show even though it
660
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:31.559
was it was Irk the Jerk, but they had so
661
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:33.799
many people in front of him it felt like a payday.
662
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.359
But it was same energy of like it was just
663
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.319
like it was lit, you know, and I just went
664
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:43.039
on that motherfucker. I was killing it with songs that
665
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:48.640
I looking back out like those trash. So it's just
666
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:51.559
super memorable because it was like my first ever show
667
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.039
and it felt it was like damn, it felt good.
668
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.079
Coolos to you because a lot of people don't have
669
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.440
that first show memory. A lot of people they first
670
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.839
show either they don't remember it because it was so
671
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:02.640
terrible or.
672
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:06.079
But what I'm saying, but before your first for your
673
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:09.119
actual first show though, right, Yeah, that being your first show.
674
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:12.839
To have that positive response, I'm sure that was you know,
675
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:14.799
motivation in the sense of like, oh yeah, okay, I
676
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:17.039
got something that people actually showed up for me. Whether
677
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.400
the songs is trashing out, whether the DJ was whatever,
678
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.160
Like people showed up and you still delivered and you
679
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.839
got a response from the people. A lot of people
680
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:27.359
don't really have that experience the very first time they
681
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:29.440
hop on. So I think that that was one of
682
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:31.839
those moments that from what I saw from when I
683
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.920
read that, I'm like, it took me to the show
684
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:35.599
that I went to.
685
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.720
Performed that song five six times.
686
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.359
They doing it over and over and over.
687
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.039
But it's like the energy that that that you give
688
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.079
to the people and then your community really shows up
689
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.279
for your So I think that that kind of plays
690
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:50.799
part into it. And I was wondering if it was
691
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:51.799
a similar experience.
692
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.480
Yeah, for sure, I think it was a I gained
693
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:56.119
a lot of new fans there because it was a
694
00:32:56.160 --> 00:33:01.079
lot of people, yeah, literally, and it was like in
695
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.480
a little club in San Jose. It was cool. It
696
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:05.759
was like, yeah, had little tickets and shit. It just
697
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:07.359
made me feel like, all right, I'm going in the
698
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.160
right therect Yeah, yeah, sure.
699
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:11.599
You spoke on Payda a la man.
700
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:13.880
Talk about that experience from you, because that's kind of
701
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:17.160
like when I started connecting the dots of who you
702
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:19.079
were and kind of paying attention at that point. This
703
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.880
is prior to the three sixty five, and you know
704
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:23.559
a lot of artists come from that man. Just but
705
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:25.480
talk about talk about your experience that we were talking
706
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:27.200
to Naa before you stepped in here, and that was
707
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.519
the same thing for him, Like that was the one
708
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:32.519
spot that I made that connection. And I feel like
709
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.440
that platform, especially at that time, was really really good
710
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.000
as far as connecting different artist you know what I'm saying,
711
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:44.039
Shout out the press for sure, putting people on stage,
712
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.359
letting them rock, letting them perform for an audience, and
713
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:50.640
just like building that community. And that's how I got
714
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:52.720
put on to a lot of people by hosting that man.
715
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.400
So talk about your experience with payday man.
716
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.720
Hindsight, I feel like Payda was like fucking open runs
717
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.480
that scouts could come to, you know what I mean,
718
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.039
And it was like it would allowed artists to come
719
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:11.920
essentially practice, but in front of people and connect with
720
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:14.639
like minded people and work, you know what I mean.
721
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:18.239
And like you said, that era, that little window where
722
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.719
it was going crazy was like pivotal for a lot
723
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.599
of us, you know what I mean. And I think
724
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.199
it brought a lot of people together. They probably put
725
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:28.039
confidence in a lot of artists, you know from responses,
726
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.199
and it just gave a lot of artists a platform
727
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.679
to get better at their craft really because some people
728
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.440
were going and seeing people better than them and taking
729
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:38.119
shit from that, you know what I mean. I've seen
730
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.280
people who did some shit and like, oh, I'm like okay,
731
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.519
I definit took some energy from holland is watching it.
732
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.039
I was like, hold on, a good little move right there.
733
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:49.440
Hold on, I gotta you feel me. I got an
734
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:51.719
up the anty, you know what I mean. So on
735
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:55.559
the bikes hold nah. Yeah. So there's just different things
736
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.440
and seeing different artists and everybody essentially from the city
737
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:03.440
or surround in areas. So I think that era was was
738
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.960
big and it did a lot for my network and
739
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.079
just as an artist, just getting in front of people.
740
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:13.079
Yeah, you speak to your entrepreneurial spirit man, talk about
741
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.079
the homies man launching that brand. At what point did
742
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.880
you realize like, oh, yeah, I have to have something
743
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:21.920
that's attached to me, but not necessarily.
744
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:23.480
My name, but it kind of is my name too
745
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:23.960
as well.
746
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:27.960
But you know, it plays into the marketing aspect of it,
747
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.360
very intentional just from looking looking at it from from
748
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:31.440
from my pov bit.
749
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:33.280
But talk about starting that brand and why that was
750
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:34.159
important for you to do that.
751
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.960
It's I feel like NIP is a blueprint on that
752
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:42.599
the Marathon like kind of having something that is attached
753
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.360
to you but also bigger than not even bigger than you,
754
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.159
attached to you, but people know separate of you, right,
755
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.719
Like there's people who know Marathon don't even know that's
756
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.639
NIP shit. They love like this, you know, so or
757
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:57.639
they think it's just some crunch shaw shit. So I
758
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:00.199
think I wanted to build something like that, whereas like
759
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:03.360
I want to be able to have people who fuck
760
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:07.119
with me want to where and also people who just
761
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.599
see it like okay, yeah, you know. And so that
762
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.440
kind of led to the Homies because you know me
763
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.719
and my brand, it's like Homies is community. I rock
764
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:19.039
with my homies. I treat my homies like brothers. I
765
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.800
love them like brothers, and that's kind of the message
766
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:26.000
behind the brand. It's like support your community and really
767
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:28.400
like fuck with people that like your homies and you
768
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.400
the homie and I'm the homiees dream. So it only
769
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:33.920
made sense, you know, And so it was good to
770
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:36.199
see though, because like now that brand is kind of
771
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.079
turned into people know it and don't know that I'm
772
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:40.599
behind it, right, I.
773
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:43.400
Think that's far What lessons did you learn?
774
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.639
You mentioned your your your parents kind of having the
775
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:49.719
entrepreneurial spirit and the spirit.
776
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:51.440
And the restaurant business.
777
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:53.760
What did you learn from them earlier on that you
778
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:56.559
kind of apply to your career and you know you
779
00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:57.559
as a brand today.
780
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:01.199
How to work hard? That was like the biggest thing.
781
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:06.679
And both my parents from Jamaica, so they immigrant stereotypes.
782
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:11.800
She too for too she didn't really like.
783
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:19.639
That ship, but yeah, they're both for Jamaica. So as immigrants,
784
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.119
you know, that's the mind frame. It's like you come,
785
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:24.920
you work for what you get, you work for what
786
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.039
you want, and you know that's what you do. So
787
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:30.320
I think the biggest one of the biggest things is
788
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:33.880
that like work hard. And then also like from my mom,
789
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:38.519
don't accept no bullshit, like you feel me. Don't don't
790
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.480
accept no bullshit and go for what you want.
791
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.920
You say, don't accept the bullshit from like you're talking
792
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:46.800
about yourself or from other people.
793
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:51.880
Both like really more so other people in like life,
794
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:56.880
right like, don't don't don't get treated anyway. Allow people
795
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:01.000
to deal with you anyway. Don't allow like yourself to
796
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:05.559
depend on other things for what you want. Don't settle
797
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:07.920
you know what I mean, put it on yourself for sure.
798
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:12.280
I love that you linking up with with Larry June
799
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.960
for Organic pimpot Man. Talk about the relationship that.
800
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:17.880
You kind of you kind of allude to it in
801
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:19.920
the song what had happened, how it went down, But
802
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:22.800
from your pov like talk about that experience.
803
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:26.599
Man, that was a cool experience which time actually because
804
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.800
the organic Okay, I got you, gotcha? That was like
805
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:35.159
random maybe like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen something like that.
806
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:39.119
Shout out to Doe Dope put that together. He actually
807
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:42.079
heard about me through TF and then he reached out
808
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.719
to TF kind of to connect that and he sent
809
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:50.480
me the record. Shout out to Saltrees produced that and
810
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.159
I did the hook and then June was on. Larry
811
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:54.760
June was on the record, but it was an empty
812
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:56.960
verse and I was just like, all right, whatever they're
813
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.360
gonna do with it. And then he ended up sending
814
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.519
me back like throw a verse on it too, and yeah,
815
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.079
I'm like fucking cool. And then we put that out
816
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.039
and I was like my first song that I was
817
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:09.960
on that hit a million plays, Like a lot of
818
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:12.400
my audience came from that song too, Like people came
819
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:14.840
from that as well as like three sixty five. And
820
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.639
that was a dope moment because it was pre who
821
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.000
Larry June is now, but he was like kind of
822
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:25.000
bubbling and he was also kind of changing his sound,
823
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:27.679
so that was like the last of that sound that
824
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:29.559
we got a Larry June too, So it was it
825
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:31.519
was a dope to be a part of that record.
826
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:34.880
I want you to speaking of sound man, you have
827
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:39.159
a unique sound. Yourself appreciated it, like it cuts.
828
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:45.840
Through any record that you're on developing that. Are you
829
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.360
mindful of it? Are you know? Like are you are?
830
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:50.119
Do you recognize that early on?
831
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:50.480
Like them?
832
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:54.800
I actually, yeah, I got a unique sound, Like I
833
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:57.119
can work with this. And once you kind of like
834
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.440
figured it out, how did you continue to play into that?
835
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:04.599
I feel like I recognized it early, but I had
836
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:08.039
to learn how to foster it, you know, because sometimes
837
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:11.199
you could be too versatile to the point where people
838
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:14.400
be like, I don't even know you know you? Yeah,
839
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.360
So I learned like, okay, how to use it to
840
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:23.039
my advantage. And the melodic thing really crazy part full circle.
841
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.679
The melodic part came out in the creation of Ogden Drive.
842
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.599
Working working with my boy Keon, who produced everything on
843
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.320
the record. Like we were over at Doctor Dre Studio
844
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:36.880
and we were kind of just working. We were just
845
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:40.760
creating ideas, but he kind of brought out the layers
846
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:43.679
that I use in creation of my music and how
847
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.599
I sing underneath myself, and a lot of that was
848
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:53.039
fostered through working with him over there.
849
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:56.880
With Doctor Frist work. No, I was in there working.
850
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:02.039
Like work he did for a little I heard.
851
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:07.559
Talking about that experience. He's like, you know, being nervous.
852
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.400
I'm still mad about that. We was just up there
853
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.239
shooting yesterday for the project, and I'm still mad. I'm like, man,
854
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:17.440
and I'm not mad because you know, everything happened for
855
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:19.639
a reason, and the song I did, at least it
856
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:23.639
was the versus fire. But you know, I ended up
857
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.079
he invited me over there, and we was at Doctor
858
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:29.280
J House recording in the studio downstairs whatever, and then
859
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.280
they were working on the beat. So I'm just locked in.
860
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.760
I'm like, I got to make the hardest ship. I
861
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.199
gotta make some and I make you feel like, I
862
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:42.199
don't know where this ship is gonna fuck it up?
863
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:49.480
And truth Truth, Truth's son. They were making the beat,
864
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.599
and so I'm just cooking. I'm cooking and I'm locked
865
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.360
in and then he just walk in. I see like
866
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:57.639
a body in my peripheral, but I didn't really pay
867
00:41:57.679 --> 00:41:59.760
attention to it, and then I look up for it
868
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:04.559
and I'm like, oh, ship, that's doctor. But I'm so
869
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:08.039
I'm literally like mid verse, I'm like and I'm cooking too,
870
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.440
so I'm like, oh, this is about to be great.
871
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:15.320
So I'm cooking, and then you know, he comes right there.
872
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.320
So I stopped and I'm like, hey, what's up. How
873
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:20.199
you doing? Nice to meet you, Like what's up? You
874
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.119
know what I mean? And then I sit right back
875
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.760
down and I lock right back here, and then you know,
876
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.119
he's staying for a little bit listening, and then he
877
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.960
just dipped and then I look back on it. I'm
878
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.400
like Damn. I don't know if I'm ever gonna meet
879
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:40.920
that man. So like everybody for a picture, and I
880
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.800
like you you do get a picture because I don't
881
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:46.119
know if I'm ever gonna.
882
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:55.519
Hold believe you feel like hold on eydsight, damn. So
883
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:59.320
I think you played it. I mean you in the moment,
884
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:01.639
I feel like that's a better way to play it.
885
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:05.239
Probably it's being having a fan moment to the point, right,
886
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.039
you don't want the nigga to know you as being
887
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:10.920
a fan, like, I don't know, I just dot the
888
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.800
time you feel it's another one in there.
889
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:18.519
You know, I was supposed to go because there is
890
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:20.039
a part of it where it's like act like he's
891
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.800
supposed to be there. So sure that's it went, it went.
892
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:24.400
I was supposed to go, But I think it's just
893
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:26.440
it was so unexpected because you know, I knew where
894
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:28.119
I was at, but I didn't expect to see the nigga,
895
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:30.760
the big ass. I don't know which part of the
896
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.320
sh you know, well, I tell the story to make
897
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.360
you feel better. So I was.
898
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:38.280
I got the opportunity to meet doctor dre it is
899
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:44.239
in the studio talking about it, and my boy like yeah,
900
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.559
she spit. He literally asked me to rap.
901
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:49.119
I had no voice.
902
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:51.480
Wait, why you didn't have a voice?
903
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:53.039
I was hoarse, nigga.
904
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:57.519
Yeah, that's just like, but.
905
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:03.719
That's an opportunity that was missed. Feel me if a niggad.
906
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:12.360
That's so don't feel I feel that.
907
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:12.920
I don't feel.
908
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:16.239
I mean, I am a believer in like everything happened
909
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:16.840
for a reason.
910
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.079
So you sound like d O C. You should have
911
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:26.400
just been like that nigga still got a job. No,
912
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:35.039
d O C got a job. I've never seen that before.
913
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:41.360
I like that we could do something that just inspired me,
914
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:43.679
that just actually made me feel.
915
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.840
Better because because I was even more mad that it's
916
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:48.679
out of your control, Like it's like damn, I couldn't
917
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:51.599
even have controlled that because I didn't even wait.
918
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:53.400
Wait, hold on, now I got to interview you. So
919
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:55.400
walking into that, did you know.
920
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:57.880
Like, okay, my voice and horse, I hope I don't
921
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:00.679
meet him. No, I didn't know that I was actually
922
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:03.760
going to meet him. I was with focused that work
923
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.639
on some walking into this, I wasn't even thinking like
924
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.559
that at all. So when I met him, it was cool.
925
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:11.480
I'm like, you know, I'm just a fly on the
926
00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:14.039
wall and She like, yes, you're a dope artist. He
927
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.119
was like, oh what learn like this something.
928
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:19.800
I'm like, damn, I'm look, you would have put out
929
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:24.639
my phone. My boys don't work.
930
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:29.880
I should have did that. I don't know talk well.
931
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:31.679
It's also like in that moment, you don't got that
932
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:35.719
much time to make too many like you either wrapping
933
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:37.320
right now, the opportunity gone.
934
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:38.639
Whatever.
935
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:41.119
I feel that hopefully doctor j C.
936
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:41.840
This a man.
937
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:45.239
You got both of us. You got a picture for me.
938
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:47.039
You got to listen to her rap.
939
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.000
So you obviously it never happened again. You never got
940
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:56.920
a chance not yeah, okay yet yes, yes, intention on
941
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.159
that man, love it? Uh you You and Dame was
942
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:01.039
a home team man.
943
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:01.760
Yeah, shut out.
944
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:05.280
Damn that that that's you know, another moment I felt
945
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:07.920
like in your career where you have an entry point
946
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:09.360
of new fans and new people that know you.
947
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:10.400
For that for sure?
948
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:11.119
What was that connection?
949
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:13.639
Like, oh that was dope man, shout out to Brookfield
950
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:17.559
deuce he connected that. That actually happened right before the
951
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:21.199
world shut down, which is creaty or during the world
952
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:24.320
shutting down. Actually we were shut down. And I want
953
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:26.159
to say, it's like May and he was looking for
954
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.360
a singer on the hood and he sent that to me,
955
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:33.599
and then he had a verse on there. And it's
956
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:36.400
crazy because I think they were supposed to get I
957
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:39.079
don't even know if I say that actually, but basically
958
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:43.400
somebody but that person ended up being already on some
959
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.559
other shit, so they was like switching it. So it's
960
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:50.280
like not to have them twice type shit. Fast forward.
961
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:53.400
He sent me the thing with with Dane's versus, and
962
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:55.760
that's usually like. I did another record with him recently
963
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.880
called Homecoming on his most recent project, and a lot
964
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.000
of it is he have his verses and then I
965
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.239
designed the hook around what he's talking about. Yeah, so
966
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.320
it was the same kind of way he had the verse,
967
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.519
and then I came in. I was like, all right,
968
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:11.639
how can I do this and how can I make
969
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:14.920
it some shit where they singing my part? You know?
970
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.440
And that's usually how I love. I love that, like
971
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.880
I love I love when people send me records or
972
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:22.920
they want to work and they have they part already
973
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.719
and it's like, let me come in and build around
974
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:29.840
where you already going. I think that's where I work best.
975
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.280
And so yeah, I built home Team kind of around
976
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:34.280
his verses because he was just talking about his family
977
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.400
and how his family is his team, like his aunt
978
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.400
Aurage is literally his cousins, which is that's really how
979
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:43.840
it is, and it fit homies my whole brand, like
980
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.599
it all just made sense. So that was that was
981
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.320
probably one of my favorite records too, just also because
982
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:51.039
it's damn Dally you know what I mean, that's the
983
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.840
NBA legend, like and he dope.
984
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:56.679
You know, I know it's rare that these rappers like, well,
985
00:47:56.760 --> 00:48:01.360
the basketball artist can, I'm basketball artists, the basketballs can actually.
986
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:04.480
Yeah, So that that was the coolest part too because
987
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.199
it's just like, yeah, he actually dope, So it's not
988
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.000
like I'm just doing some ship because he's who he is,
989
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:12.400
Like I actually fuck with what he's talking about and
990
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:14.920
the way he delivered. And then fast forward, he ended
991
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.000
up being on the cover of two K and they
992
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:18.960
use that song, you know what I mean, So that
993
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.320
ended up being on two K. It was a dope.
994
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.039
It was a dope moment, and.
995
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:30.159
I think that's I look at those moments of like
996
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:34.639
confirmation like one hundred old, so okay, all these moments
997
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.360
aren't going away, like you know, just just all those
998
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.239
moments that you those feelings that you had prior to
999
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:40.159
that where he's like, Damn.
1000
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:41.760
Should I pivot? Should I get this? Should I be
1001
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:44.440
a tech bro? Like all these moments, it's like, damn, okay, no,
1002
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.400
we're I'm doing the right thing. It's it's.
1003
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.840
Something that you you you've done too as well, which
1004
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.719
I think is super creative, is creating.
1005
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:57.159
An entire album while I'm live.
1006
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:01.039
You know, I felt like that it's crazy because that's
1007
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.280
one of my most played albums so far, But I
1008
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:05.599
just like, I don't feel like that guy I got.
1009
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:07.480
I've been literally thinking the other day, like, how do
1010
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.159
I get more attention to this project? Because this is crazy.
1011
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:12.800
Getting the laugh that's such a great project, such a
1012
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.639
great project, and just just the idea behind it.
1013
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:20.800
Talk about walking into that and being vulnerable enough, because
1014
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:23.400
I feel like that's the problem that a lot of
1015
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:25.920
creators have, artists and whatnot.
1016
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.199
They they're afraid to look crazy, you know what.
1017
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.519
I'm saying In those moments when you have writer's blocker,
1018
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:33.920
trying to like threat, you know, get through these moments.
1019
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.119
What got you through the process of actually doing the
1020
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.000
first saying I'm going to do it, and then following
1021
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:42.360
through getting other artists to pull up them kind of not.
1022
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:43.480
Really knowing but maybe knowing.
1023
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:45.559
Think I heard Airplane James is gonna say like that
1024
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.840
even though he was actually doing the shit. But talk
1025
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:51.320
about that that process of how you navigated through that.
1026
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:55.679
So it started. I did that project November or like,
1027
00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:00.239
I don't know, the last few months of twenty twenty five. Think,
1028
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:03.079
what's that last year I dropped that? Yeah yeah, yeah,
1029
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:07.360
yeah yeah, so yeah. So the summer before that, in
1030
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.840
twenty twenty four, I believe it was I dropped so
1031
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.639
much music, you know, But I think twenty twenty four
1032
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.280
I dropped the project called Industry Plant, where I made
1033
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:19.480
it all on live because I was streaming at the time,
1034
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:21.719
and I was like, it was kind of like a
1035
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:25.159
trial run before I actually brought people. I actually brought
1036
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:29.239
TF to one of the episodes, but outside of that,
1037
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:31.800
like and I was to do something a whole different.
1038
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:34.760
But I did a project called Industry Plant, and I
1039
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:36.800
was like, I want to try this, and like you,
1040
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:39.039
like you said earlier, I'm very intentional, so I was like,
1041
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:42.079
let me do this and then see. So I did
1042
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:45.639
that project and I noticed that the people who watched
1043
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:47.920
me make that music were like attached to it a
1044
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:51.840
little different, and they fucked with it a little bit different.
1045
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:54.400
And so even one of the songs I made with
1046
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:57.000
the chat on live stream and they were sending in
1047
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:00.239
ideas and I was writing based on their ideas, called
1048
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.199
the song live stream. So fast forward a year later,
1049
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:06.400
I'm like, I want to do this, but then bring
1050
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:09.519
motherfuckers in because people like the live streams where I'm
1051
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.119
making music because it just gives them insight into my brain,
1052
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.079
maybe learning like I've had my wife. One of her
1053
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.599
coworkers was like, I'll be watching your husband love streams
1054
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:23.199
I learned, so fast forward, I'm like, I should do it,
1055
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:25.679
and I want to like do a whole project though,
1056
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:29.079
because I think outside the industry plan, I hadn't really
1057
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:32.559
dropped too much projects like albums where I produced it.
1058
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:33.960
So I was like, I'm about to just do it.
1059
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:37.360
So I started out just making it myself, and then
1060
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.400
once I kind of started to get I'm like a
1061
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:41.880
few songs, five songs, six songs, I'm like, okay, cool,
1062
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.280
I'm gonna start bringing people in. And so I brought
1063
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.639
in Airplane James, I brought into Homie El Nino, Homie
1064
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:53.119
Brookfield dudes, Manny Draper, Hugh Augustine like a Ela shout
1065
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.400
out to her, and we just were creating on live
1066
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:58.920
and a lot of it was like, if I knew
1067
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:00.960
they was coming, I would just start to be earlier
1068
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:03.159
in the live tell them to come like an hour later,
1069
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:05.800
and then if they fuck with the vibe, we do it.
1070
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.039
If now we just create some new shit. So but
1071
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.440
that's probably one of the projects I'm most proud of
1072
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:13.480
because I literally produced an engineer to everything on that
1073
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.119
and I just love the sound of that project.
1074
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:17.079
People are watching you.
1075
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:19.960
It's still there on YouTube.
1076
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:20.360
That's it.
1077
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:24.840
That's a little added pressure that you know, stepped up
1078
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:27.760
to and kind of got through. My question is like,
1079
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.280
why do you think creators have a hard time or
1080
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:34.039
not gonna say can't but don't do it.
1081
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:38.079
I think if you have a hard time doing something
1082
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:40.519
like that or creating in front of people, that just
1083
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:45.360
means you haven't worked enough towards perfecting your craft.
1084
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:46.519
Right.
1085
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:49.039
It's like, the confidence I have in what I'm doing
1086
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:50.880
is what allows me to do it in front of people,
1087
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:55.239
and and me understanding that everybody does it different. So
1088
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:58.320
like my my EQ on my vocal might look different
1089
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:02.400
than alive. Don't mean it's wrong. What does it sound like?
1090
00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:05.039
You know what I mean? And I'm a truster of
1091
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.360
my ears and obviously all these all leads, so that's
1092
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:11.639
probably a bad example, but just the reality of like
1093
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:17.159
music is subjective. So yeah, there's technical aspects that should
1094
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:19.119
be a certain way, but most of it is what
1095
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:21.199
does it sound like? Yeah, you know what I mean?
1096
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:24.039
And there's plenty of hits that soundtrash. Most of the
1097
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:27.760
historic songs we love are terrible mixes, and the engineers
1098
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:30.039
who did and will tell you that now, you know.
1099
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.840
So I just stop focusing on what's the right way
1100
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:35.760
to do it and I start just trusting my ears.
1101
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:40.039
So if you had to give somebody advice that is
1102
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:44.880
in this space trying to figure it out, wants to
1103
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:47.400
kind of do the same thing. But they're just like
1104
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:49.840
man like, I was literally having a conversation with somebody
1105
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.760
the other day about content creation and I'm neither here
1106
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:55.400
nor there, like I do what works for you, right,
1107
00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:58.679
But their thing was, yeah, I don't know if I'm
1108
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:03.519
on that I did, because uh, you know, I don't.
1109
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.840
It's not about performing, But there it was. It sounded
1110
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:09.119
like it came from a confidence thing and they were
1111
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:13.880
afraid of like what people would like the feedback, the feedback,
1112
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:17.360
but in the moment of actually performing and it's taking
1113
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:18.599
longer than it would normally do.
1114
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:20.760
So if you write in a verse and you know,
1115
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:22.440
whatever you have your process.
1116
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:24.039
Of doing it, put a camera in front of somebody
1117
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:26.679
or change a chat in front of somebody, it kind
1118
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:29.519
of changes the dynamics. So, yeah, would you give somebody
1119
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:33.360
or yeah, give someone some advice that is coming from
1120
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:35.760
that perspective. Is it something that you feel like they
1121
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:37.519
can work towards or it's just like, you know what
1122
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:39.960
your process is, your process that might not be for you.
1123
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:42.760
I mean, there's that, but if you want to do it,
1124
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:44.880
I would say, if you want to do it and
1125
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:47.760
you're skeptical about doing it in front of people, then
1126
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.599
turn on the camera, do it, and then review the tape.
1127
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.840
Oh that's good, you know what I mean, Like watch
1128
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:56.679
yourself and be like, okay, boom, what could I do better?
1129
00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:58.360
What does it look like? Because a lot of times
1130
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:00.840
we are hesitant because we can see it and we
1131
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:03.519
don't know the outcome. And it's like if you do
1132
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:06.960
it and then just look at it, you'll know, Like Okay,
1133
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:09.920
that ain't it? Or if I do this instead of that,
1134
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:10.960
it'll be better.
1135
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:13.280
That's really good. I think about that. That's that's actually
1136
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:25.199
really good, good good advice. Speaking of advice, I swear.
1137
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.880
And I'm like, I can't wait. I'm gonna dance chuck
1138
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:33.480
disgust me for some damn about that.
1139
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:34.199
Man.
1140
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.840
I you, I'm gonna tell you what I respect about
1141
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:39.239
how you operate.
1142
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:39.400
Bro.
1143
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:43.760
I see you go ghosts. Right before your.
1144
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:47.000
Daughter was born, you had content leading up to it,
1145
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:50.639
went ghosts, And I can tell you really like locked
1146
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.159
in on that family mode for here you are now
1147
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:55.760
as of today, we're recording this eight months. You know,
1148
00:55:57.480 --> 00:55:59.880
first of all, how it's fatherhood for you first experience?
1149
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:02.440
And then what da advice would you give to other
1150
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:03.280
fathers out there?
1151
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:04.880
First?
1152
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:08.400
I'm gonna say I love it. It's something that I
1153
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:11.400
always kind of wanted an envision for myself too, So
1154
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:16.360
it's cool to kind of actually be here in the beginning.
1155
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:20.599
Hell no, the look, I was like, damn this sleeping
1156
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:24.960
the sleep through, you know, and my baby didn't even
1157
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:27.000
cry like that, but she just was you know, she
1158
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:29.920
had a whole ordeal too, right like her her birth
1159
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:32.400
was a lot, and it was like we just had
1160
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.360
went through a lot, which isn't a Niki for like
1161
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:36.679
five days, it was a whole thing, and so that
1162
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.559
part like traumatized me a little bit. And she was
1163
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.119
on medicine. So it's like early on it was just
1164
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:46.079
like a lot, you know. But now it's that she's
1165
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:49.719
doing better, she's moving around, she's starting to show her personality.
1166
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.239
It's like even better, and it's just I just can
1167
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.760
only imagine what the future gonna be. So I love
1168
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:58.840
it so far. As far as dad vice, even though
1169
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:01.039
I've been waiting for this for now, you gotta think,
1170
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:02.679
hold on, let me do something good.
1171
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.159
I think about what it vite like that, and I'm
1172
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:09.559
glad you kind of led with that because I think
1173
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:12.360
what's also good is like knowing what you know now
1174
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:15.079
going through your experience, what you what you you know
1175
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.079
going through like that everything you just said, what advice
1176
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:23.239
would you give now to that that dream bo that father?
1177
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:25.400
Like going through what you were going through in the
1178
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:27.760
moments of man, she was kind of traumatic.
1179
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.079
And I don't like everything now that you kind of
1180
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:34.360
removed from it eight months or is there anything that
1181
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:34.800
you could say?
1182
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.920
I don't think there was anything I was I would say, uh,
1183
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:41.440
I think me and my wife handled it as well
1184
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:44.320
as we could have handled it with it being sprung
1185
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.039
on us the way it was, and she was strong
1186
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:50.440
as hell, and we both kind of adjusted and made
1187
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:54.119
a decision together. So I wouldn't change any any way
1188
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:56.119
we handle it. I don't really think there's anything I
1189
00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:58.440
could even do better for her because it was all
1190
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:01.639
just adjusting. You was just kind of adapting to the moment.
1191
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:10.840
But dad vice wise, I would say, give yourself and
1192
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:16.599
your partner grace. And I say that because you know,
1193
00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:18.639
they say all the time, like when you have a baby,
1194
00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:21.840
everything changes, and that's very true. And I even learned
1195
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:23.960
some things about myself and I had to give myself
1196
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:26.800
some grace recently just because you know, I just really
1197
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:30.119
recently did my first show at the Roxy. Shout out
1198
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:33.119
to ATM Danny as a dad though, right, and the
1199
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:36.639
preparation prior was just different than what it was before
1200
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:39.480
even coming here. It's like I'm a dad all up
1201
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:41.440
until the hop in that car and come here. I'm
1202
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:44.880
still a dad, but like mind frame wise, and I
1203
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.079
just sometimes I have to give myself grace because you know,
1204
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:50.440
to be vulnerable and open, like my performance was good,
1205
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:55.239
I got good response, but me reviewing the tape within myself,
1206
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:57.519
I'm like, I don't feel like I did as good
1207
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:00.480
as I could have or should have. I also had
1208
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.480
to give myself grace given the lead up and me
1209
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:07.440
adjusting to this new life of who I am and
1210
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:10.679
my expectations in my role within my family. So I
1211
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:12.920
think that also needs to be given to you know,
1212
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:16.039
your partner and the baby, right because the baby, baby,
1213
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:18.280
she don't know shit. She might get on your nerves sometime.
1214
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:20.559
I cry a little too much, like you know. So
1215
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:25.039
I think just grace in general would be my dad vice.
1216
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:25.639
I love that.
1217
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:29.800
I love that because I think it's necessary for us
1218
00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:33.159
to hear that we are a lot of times our own.
1219
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:35.400
Worst critics and feel like there's more that we should
1220
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:36.599
be doing or can be doing.
1221
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:39.880
But it's like yo, reality, Yo, we're the rest in
1222
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:45.199
this position. Our intents are, our intent is there? We mean, well,
1223
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:46.760
we ain't gonna get it right all the time.
1224
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:51.039
It's especially partner to partner because it's like and with
1225
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:52.960
the first one, like this is my first ever, this
1226
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.039
is her first ever, Like we don't know what the
1227
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:58.000
fuck we doing like, yeah, we can google shit, we
1228
00:59:58.119 --> 01:00:01.079
got parents and shit, but like you don't know. You
1229
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:04.199
just kind of adjusting because every baby different, so you're
1230
01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:06.199
trying to figure it out. And the grace is so
1231
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:09.039
important because it's like sometimes I need to give her
1232
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:11.599
grace or sometimes she needs to give me grace. And
1233
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:15.320
it's like, bro, we don't know. You may think one thing,
1234
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:17.800
I may think another thing. Sometimes I gotta let you
1235
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:20.440
try your thing because you might be right, you know
1236
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:22.280
what I mean. And sometimes you gotta let me try
1237
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:24.199
my thing cause I might be right because we both
1238
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:32.000
just don't know. She's always right. See, she is right
1239
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:37.960
about that whole like mother daughter or mother child like
1240
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:40.719
connection because they grew in them. That thing is real.
1241
01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:43.400
I didn't realize how real that was. I'm like, you, bullshit,
1242
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.199
I know I'm connected. She like, and you telling you
1243
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:48.119
about to wake up? I kind of feel something. I
1244
01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:50.840
start to get up. I'm like, you lie, but then
1245
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:53.000
I probably, like the last few months, I'm like, oh,
1246
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.639
that is a real thing, especially when I see her
1247
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:58.719
when she's flustered or different things, like she love her daddy,
1248
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.280
but there's certain times her she like she's going to
1249
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:04.280
her mom for something. That I don't even possess, but
1250
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:07.119
she would be a daddy's girl. She is already as
1251
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.480
soon as I walk in the room, she followed me everywhere.
1252
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:16.440
She do like well, she loved music too. I was like, okay,
1253
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:18.639
I feel put your little ass in front of her microphone.
1254
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:20.599
As soon as you can talk, we gonna see model
1255
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:21.320
on him. Cry.
1256
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:28.920
Oh well, that kind of brings me to my next point. Man,
1257
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:32.239
you now started rolling out some content with Wifey forever.
1258
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:37.239
Yeah, talk about that and whose idea was that?
1259
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:37.480
Was that?
1260
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:39.960
Your idea was that Wifey's idea? And how you guys
1261
01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:43.400
have kind of been embracing this journey of.
1262
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:46.599
Yeah, that's a dope journey. We talked about this for
1263
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:49.199
years and just kind of never did it. And my
1264
01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:51.159
wife I just told me. People told her when she
1265
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:55.800
was in school, because she she could talk, she should
1266
01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:57.480
be a talk show host. So she was gonna be
1267
01:01:57.519 --> 01:01:59.159
a talk show She did a lot of stuff as
1268
01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:00.880
a kid, and so we used to laugh like one
1269
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:02.880
day we're gonna do it. And then it just kind
1270
01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:06.239
of felt right in this moment we moved. It was
1271
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:07.880
just like I don't know, it just felt like we
1272
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:11.039
had new things to talk about. You know, and then
1273
01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:13.320
a lot of people who actually know us and our dynamic.
1274
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.280
We've been together since we was nineteen, like we married
1275
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.119
nine nine years coming up, so it's like we've been
1276
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:20.679
together for a long time, and a lot of people
1277
01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:23.320
who actually know us, like know our dynamic and they
1278
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:25.199
feel like they're like, yo, show up to you show.
1279
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:27.880
We just laughed off. But one day it was like
1280
01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:31.000
one day I told her, I said, all right, I'm
1281
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:33.199
gonna just come downstairs with a camera and we're gonna
1282
01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:35.599
film something. Don't know what's gonna be, if we're gonna
1283
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:37.599
do it. And then we did that a few times
1284
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:40.800
and were like let's let's let's do it. So then
1285
01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:41.920
we just did it.
1286
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:43.400
So did you take your own advice?
1287
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.199
Did you review to take like it was that first
1288
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:47.559
one episode one that people saw was at the very
1289
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:48.119
first one.
1290
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:50.400
That was the first it's literally been in order so far.
1291
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:52.519
So we dropped three episodes so far, and those are
1292
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:55.679
all like the first ones we shot. So even if
1293
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:57.760
you see them, like you'll see they start to get
1294
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:00.960
better because we start to get more comfortable in front
1295
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:02.920
of the camera together because I'm always in front of
1296
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:05.320
the camera and she has kind of just started to
1297
01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:07.840
be more in front of the camera, like after her
1298
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:11.280
Ted talk and stuff. So it's just it's gonna be good.
1299
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:14.000
I definitely enjoy it. I think it could be something
1300
01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:16.119
pretty dope and the perspective is cool.
1301
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:17.000
Yeah, I love that.
1302
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:19.840
I love how relatable that is too, because it's you
1303
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:23.800
often don't really get that content in our space.
1304
01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:24.559
I mean, you get it.
1305
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:26.840
I'm not gonna say you don't get it, but just
1306
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:30.199
from the creators that I see, specifically.
1307
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:34.320
Rappers, you don't really you know, you always talk to.
1308
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:36.559
Hide that part of your life for sure, that you
1309
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.440
kind of forward facing with it and appreciate that.
1310
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:42.400
I do want to talk more about the project before
1311
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:42.960
we wrap up.
1312
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:47.320
Man, we always talk about the business card track with
1313
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:49.599
song off this project. Do you feel like it's your
1314
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:54.679
business card track? Meaning the best representation of who Dribo
1315
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:55.320
is today?
1316
01:03:56.039 --> 01:04:03.559
Hmmm, the best representation of who's is I'll probably say
1317
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:09.519
fifteen forty one, which is I just think I'm really
1318
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:12.920
talking to myself on that project, and it's really just
1319
01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:18.480
kind of laying out the realities of the journey, you
1320
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:20.960
know what I mean, in different mindsets and mind friends
1321
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:23.199
you have to have on the journey and different things
1322
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:25.599
you got to look out for and factor in while
1323
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:28.920
on the journey with dealing with yourself and other people.
1324
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:31.800
And I feel like that that song would be like,
1325
01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:35.239
this is who I am at this moment.
1326
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:36.920
Now, this one.
1327
01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:40.840
I feel like, I don't recall you doing any other
1328
01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:43.679
directed consumer drops the way.
1329
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:44.199
You did it this time.
1330
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:46.480
No, this is my first time doing that, actually, yeah,
1331
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:49.239
because I mean I literally created a whole new webside
1332
01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:50.480
for it because I was going to do it on
1333
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:53.480
shopdhummies dot com, but then I just wanted to separate
1334
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:55.480
them for future drops because I have some other things
1335
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:57.360
that I want to do in the future and I
1336
01:04:57.440 --> 01:04:59.239
want to drop them in this same way.
1337
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:01.280
Okay, So I mean that that's why I was going
1338
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:01.800
to get into that.
1339
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:03.840
Why why you decide to do it this way on
1340
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.960
your own website directing consumer versus you know everybody's doing
1341
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:10.159
even now, Yeah, and so why not go that route versus?
1342
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:12.199
I think it's just the ability thing. It's just like,
1343
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:14.360
why I give them twenty percent when I canna do
1344
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:17.639
it myself. It's not like it's not like anything more
1345
01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:21.159
complicated than just why split it when I can go
1346
01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:24.840
pay Shopify and I already got an account with another website.
1347
01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:29.079
It's like, and then you're paying. When you break it
1348
01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:31.480
down yearly, it ends up being cheaper than twenty percent
1349
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:34.119
if I was to make ten thousand dollars, you see
1350
01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:36.840
what I'm saying. So it just made more sense to
1351
01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:38.159
just build it myself.
1352
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.639
And how has that response been for you personally? Because
1353
01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:43.800
I've seen the campaign. I feel like a lot of
1354
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:46.239
people if your community stepped up and showed you.
1355
01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:48.599
A thousand percent, Yeah, it's been good. It's been a
1356
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:54.360
good response. Damn near don't got much left honestly. But
1357
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:56.760
it was for me too. It was like a pre release.
1358
01:05:57.239 --> 01:05:58.599
So it's just like, if you want to get it
1359
01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:00.400
early and you really support me and U with me,
1360
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:03.440
go grab it. You know, and you know everybody know
1361
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:06.239
it's coming on all platforms eventually. So you got certain
1362
01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:08.840
people that are just like I wait. But for the
1363
01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:12.559
core people which will continue to grow, that's kind of
1364
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:13.360
my new formula.
1365
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:14.840
That's fire.
1366
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:15.639
Appreciate that.
1367
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:19.119
That's a smart way of doing it. The year can't
1368
01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:22.079
end without dream Bow doing what. Man, you got that
1369
01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:27.760
inner talk, motivation, that self talk. You're picking yourself up.
1370
01:06:28.159 --> 01:06:30.039
What are the things that you're looking towards in the
1371
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:32.199
future right now that you can't in without Drew doing
1372
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:33.679
what Damn.
1373
01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:39.559
That's a tough one because it could be music or
1374
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:43.679
it could be life. Okay, because I'm like, uh, damn.
1375
01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:54.400
The year came in without Dreabow, the year came in
1376
01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:59.800
without dream Ball dropping the R and B project. Boat
1377
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:11.079
It's called ry though. That's like that. Yeah, so I'm
1378
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:12.800
working on I'm actually working on too, So I'm working
1379
01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:14.639
on like a traditional R and B type ship and
1380
01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:17.039
then some like afro B R and B type ship.
1381
01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:19.079
So I don't know if I'm going to merge him
1382
01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:21.519
into one or just do it too separately, but yeah,
1383
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:24.239
you can without me dropping the R and B project.
1384
01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:28.800
That I've been waiting for this moment. I'm glad we
1385
01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:30.000
got a chance to chop it up. Man.
1386
01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:30.480
I'm for sure.
1387
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:34.920
I'm a fan, I'm a support Yes, thank you, continue
1388
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:36.960
to grow you know, anything you need on our am
1389
01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:38.199
definitely year appreciate.
1390
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:40.000
I got to tell you my favorite song I always
1391
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.039
tell you when I see you though, the love Oh
1392
01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:48.960
yeah song really got me through a little heartbreak but
1393
01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:49.800
it's so fire.
1394
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:52.840
Thank you. I appreciate that. That's what I feel like that.
1395
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:54.360
I think I might have told you this, like, I
1396
01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:57.199
feel like that's a slept on joint. Really you're telling
1397
01:07:57.280 --> 01:07:59.719
me that it's cool. I like that because that's what
1398
01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:01.280
I'm my favorite on that project.
1399
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:05.320
And just in general, look, man, ogn drive out right now,
1400
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:08.679
going yeah yes. By the time you see, this is
1401
01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:11.920
gonna be available everywhere, platforms supported early.
1402
01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:13.639
And be on the lookout for everything to revote. Man,
1403
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:15.239
I appreciate you for coming through. Brothers.
1404
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:16.239
I appreciate you
1405
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:26.079
Next time.