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When I can the mirror dad who's staring back at me.
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The world's again clearer.
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But it's easier to see.
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Hey everybody, I'm Samantha Fish and you're about to hear
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a song off mighty record called paper Doll.
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Let's do Itana, thanks for joining us today.
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Yeah, thank you, my pleasure.
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So you released a new album, Pipe Doll on April
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to twenty, Like, it's still a little way away, But
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how are you feeling is deciding to get to pressure point?
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No?
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I mean, honestly, oh god, there's there's this weird feeling
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when you finish a record, at least for me, I
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know every artist feels this way. You know, you're you
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walk out of the studio and this giant weight has
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been lifted off your shoulders. It's a much you for
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when you're done with the record, it's like the pressure
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is just like okay, like that's over, thank god, because
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it's always fun, but it is like for me, it's
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always like this mountain that I have to climb, you know,
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to get through it, and it's you know, so it
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feels great, but then it feels like you have the
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secret that you have to keep for you know. Six
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nine months a year they can't share with anybody. So
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I finally feel like I'm able to like let.
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People in on the little secret. That's that's kind of nice.
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Good way looking at it. Can you just rub the
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album chimmy from the musical point of view and then
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what you're actually going for with it?
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Oh?
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God?
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Well, this record, I wanted to lean into my strengths,
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you know, what people might like, what are my super
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power makes me different, what's what makes me unique? You know,
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leaning into my voice, my guitar, my songwriting. I wanted
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to make something that felt urgent, felt like rock and roll,
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but was still rooted in the music that I love
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and it inspires me, which is like blues music, you know,
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uh North Hill country blues specifically. It's a deep well
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of inspiration for me. I just wanted to write great
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songs and write and record with an urgency that you know,
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people would hear it and want to listen again and
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again and again. You know, Timeless Records, that's my goal.
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Nice. Now, it's the first one of your albums to
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actually be pitched to me here an Australian heavy metal magazine,
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So I'm guessing it's a lot more harder edged than
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some of your previous albums.
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You know, I think some of the songs are.
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Yeah, I mean I feel like maybe we just finally
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worked our way to, you know, to get your attention.
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I feel like I've written some pretty heavy music, but
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I think the production on this definitely has, you know,
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this this.
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Rock and roll edge to it. Absolutely.
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Yeah, And you opened it with a song called I'm
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Done Running, which is a great introduction in music. It's tough,
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it's catchy as hell, but it's gets up. It's just
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got a driving beat to the whole thing. Is that
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why you chose to open the album?
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Yeah, you know, I think that the the okay, So
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every time you sequence a record, it's like the committee
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comes into play. I mean, I feel like that song
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it's inviting, you know, it's it's definitely inviting. It kind
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of prepares you for what's to come. But it's also
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you know, I feel like it just sort of opens
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the door to a record. It's so hard to sequence,
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you know, I mean, you can you can make a
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completely different album with the same set of songs just
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through the sequence alone. So you know, I definitely have
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my my sequences that I love that I prefer. But
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you know, when when you bring everybody in, I think
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that the consensus was that song is inviting, so let's
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put it first.
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Nice speaking, a sacred thing. Like in the modern I
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h where a lot of music streaming and no one
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really listens to an album start to finish, do you
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still put as much fight as into your order the tracks?
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I mean, I I think so if I want people to,
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you know, it's important because if somebody is listening to
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the what's going to keep them from going, all right,
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I've had enough, I'm gonna listen to something else. The sequence,
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you know, like putting putting songs in an order that
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continue to like surprise you. You know, if you put
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everything up front that sounds the same, people go, I
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know what this record sounds like. I don't need to
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listen to the rest of it. So I feel like
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it's a journey.
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You know.
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Not everybody goes on that journey anymore. I mean, it
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is twenty twenty five. A lot of people just go
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to Spotify and find their favorite song and listen to it.
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But I want to create the opportunity for people to
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want to hear the whole thing. So I think sequencing
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is important for that reason, you know, take people on
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a trip. It's it's art Christ's sakes, Let's let's do
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something with it.
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Right. Well, you've released the singles I'm Done Running and
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Sweet Southern Sounds, which are complete polar opposites of each
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other musically, Like, is that an indication of the range
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that's over the whole album?
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Yeah, I'd say so.
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I mean, I think that the idea is to kind
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of continue to surprise people with the direction. Yet I
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feel like those songs are different, but there is like
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a there is a similar thread throughout. I think you
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can kind of hear you know that there is a
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blues like a rootsiness in there. Even though they go
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completely different directions, there is there is some cohesive themes throughout.
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Yeah, it's a musically like from my first listen on
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at like, there's a beautiful mix of there's rock, blues,
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you got hard rock, there's country, there's a bit of
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soul in their light. How difficult is it to get
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the balance of all of those rod in the creative prices?
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I mean, I just kind of follow what feels right
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for me. You know, these are all things that it's
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not like I'm writing a song in a genre that
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I have no uestion too, or you know, like simply
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out of my comfort zone. I mean a lot of
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everything that I write it comes from you know, comes
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from my heart. So to make it all fit together,
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I feel like there's there's already a cohesive thread involved,
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you know, and so it to me, it's not it's
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not too complex. And also I owe a lot of
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that sort of you know, connection throughout the material to
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the session. You know, when you're in there working with
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the same musicians and producer, you're in you're in a room,
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you're in a space, there is a vibe. It's like
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a snapshot in time. So you know, it's not like
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we're gonna make something way over here and it's something
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that you know, it's all gonna feel like a family,
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you know, like the songs kind of go together, even
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if they're wildly different. There's there's still a connection. You know,
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we're playing the same instruments, we're being recorded on the
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same console. It's like there, it's a moment, you know.
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And the my reason why I asked that is so
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I'm pretty sure it was on the first song I'm
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done running but it's started off like there's a country
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Twain tour. Then I got a little bit of blues
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in it, and then I go to hot rock. While
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I was listening to it, I'm sitting down thinking like,
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how the hell as she made this sound good from
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day to day to dare. So that's why I asked
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that question because from listen, okay, it doesn't sound like
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it'd be an easy thing to play together.
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Well, when you put it on paper like that, when
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you like, you know, I think you know, I I
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don't know. I just to me when I hear that song, it.
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All, it all just kind of tells the story, right,
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even if you're you know, if you listen to a
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song on the record called Fortune Teller, it goes wild
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different directions that it's unexpected.
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But you know, that's that's the exciting thing about making music.
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You want to make things that people don't know.
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Exactly where it's going, but it's still if you can
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find a way to make it work, that's the art, right.
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Bake it till you make it. Yeah, now all read
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in the press release where you said the album and
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a lot of the guitars on it was inspired by
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Mississippi Hills Country blues like I hear in Australia, that
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doesn't really mean much for us. So what actually what
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is that?
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Well, you got to go pick up some Junior Kimbro
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and some RL Burnside.
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Go check out the Fat Possum Roster.
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Yeah, North Hill Country is like a region in North Mississippi.
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It's it's a very To me, it's like it's it's
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like a mixture of I mean, it's Delta blues, but
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there's like a heavy drum element involved. There's a drone involved,
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and I you know, to me, growing up as a
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kid in Kansas City and really loving rock and roll
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and loving like, you know, Detroit in New York, when
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I heard Hill Country blues music for the first time,
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to me, it kind of felt like the same kindred
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spirit to my favorite kind of rock and roll. This
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sort of raw, loose, kind of like aggressive, you know,
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give no fucks kind of a feel, and there was
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nothing really super polished about it, and to me, it
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just really spoke to me because and it just felt
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really natural to go from.
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Liking you know, like the Stooges to liking RL Burnside.
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It all just sort of felt, you know, COHESI but
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if you don't know about it, go check out some
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records because it's.
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It's the truth. It's the truth, the truth.
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Yeah, there's also another quite from me and there that
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all found really interesting. You said that it's taken me
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years to fondly find more voice in a studio setting.
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Can you elborate on that.
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I get that quote a lot, and I regret saying
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it like that because it sounds like.
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It sounds so sad, no what I mean.
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As a singer, and a lot maybe other singers can
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really relate to this. Singing live on a stage is
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completely different than singing with headphones on in an isolated
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studio setting. For me, like my earlier recording is when
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I listened to my voice, and I've grown a lot
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as a vocalist. Like I'm not trying to short change myself,
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because I put in a lot of work as a singer,
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but I do feel like I was able to reach
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areas of my voice and get comfortable in ways to
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sing that I maybe haven't naturally been able to really
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tap into. I think I was just starting to kind
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of tap into it with death, Wish and faster, you know,
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like there wasn't there wasn't a ton of restraint in
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my vocals, Like I was able to do the thing
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that I do naturally on stage in a studio, which
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kind of feels good because you're like you have these
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aha moments all the time as a musician, you know, like, oh,
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you know, this little thing unlocks.
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This big thing.
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And that's really what I meant by that quote, not
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that like I was stifled creatively and I wasn't able
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to be myself or anything. I just I felt like
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my true actual singing voice, like I find I was
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I kind of unlocked something. Was was able to go
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to places that I don't think I've been able to
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quite go to in the past.
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Nice Paper Doll was written and created mostly on the
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road this time, which is different for you. So was
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it a difficult process touring and writing?
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It's how I've always done it. It's always it's always
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like it's always like that. You know, you have to
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find time and make it when you can. I did
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have some to I remember early on in that writing process,
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I did have some time off at home, and you know,
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I mean sometimes you need a bit of a ticking
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clock to be productive, you know.
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Like like it helps it helps to know like, Okay,
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I have to I have to be ready at this time,
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you know, and so it just sort of like motivates
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the creative process even further, you know.
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But I don't know.
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I mean, I write a lot about.
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The road, about my experiences, so you know, sometimes sometimes
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getting out there and doing it, it's it's great fodder
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for inspiration, you know.
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Yeah.
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They also said in there to you that it's the
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first album you've recorded with your touring band, Like do
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you normally use session musicians?
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I have in the past.
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Yeah, then it's not because it was some you know,
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it was never like a decision like I chose to
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use these musicians and not these musicians. It's just, you know,
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every album has kind of been like you knows who's
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working on it, where are you at, you know, what,
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what's the band's situation like in this moment. Sometimes you know,
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so things were you know, you you bring in different
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musicians at different times for different things because of many
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different reasons. But this album, we were on the road
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touring all over the place, like and just completely crazy
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touring schedule, and you know, I had a really good
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energy in a chemistry with this band, so it just
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felt right natural to go into the studio and continue
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that momentum that we had on.
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They're nice. So what's the next for Samantha fish Off?
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nothing but record and sure, that's about it.
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Man, that's kind of a life.
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That's kind of a life, gul you know, it's not.
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you know, getting to reimagine everything and make it make
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something new for the.
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Fans, you know, And I just really feel at home.
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good feeling place for me.
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So I don't mind it.
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So if your plans to make it to Australia in
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the new future, because all come.
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Twenty twenty six, they are the rumors that I'm hearing,
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but nothing is confirmed. So this is not an official announcement.
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It's a goal, it's a goal yeah, twenty twenty six. Nice.
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Now, before you go, saman So, I've got a new
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thing I've started doing called fighto bombs. So basically, before
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I speak to you, I'll tell you social media. I
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come up with a few fighters that don't want to
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ask you more about Okay, I one of you that
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proves that you do have a be to meddle in
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your veins.
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Halloween yeah, well yeah, I mean I don't know. I
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always do Halloween up pretty big, I gotta say, which
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is so funny, Like we've I've gotten, I've gotten so much.
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on Halloween because I have to dress up pretty the
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rest of the year. So you know, it's my opportunity
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just to go as you know, disgusting as I want,
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you know, dark disgusting.
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Let's go for it.
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But that was one of my best I mean, I
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use the special effects horns and you know, that was
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a fun look.
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That was a good one, very nice.
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And the other one I found was.
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Do you seriously play in high hills and then negotiate
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your pedal boards with them on?
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I do.
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Hall the hell I got the back problems to prove it.
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Just say good.
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You know, Honestly, those stilettos kind of create like a
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nice little point, so it's easier to push the buttons
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than when I'm like when I wear big like I'll
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wear my doctor Martins to sound check, and I'm like
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stamping on all the buttons at the same time, Like Jesus,
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how how do people do this with their regular big,
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clumsy shoes on. I feel like you kind of have
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to have a nice, narrow little point to be precise.
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I'm saying other photos, if you jump it all over
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the place on side Joe, you just shouldn't happen. You
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shouldn't be out to jump and move and should just
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like that.
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It's a I don't know, man, I've seen some photos
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that I'm like, why did I date that? That's it
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gives me like intrusive kind of like, oh, I could
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have broken ankle. I can definitely see how that juke
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probably would have let you know, led me somewhere dangerous.
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But I don't know, you know, you feel it in
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the in the moment, like I just know I'm gonna land.
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I have this, Like I just know I can do it.
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That's what That's what the stage to you.
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It gives you all kinds of like confidence and it's
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like you should not have confidence like that in stilettos
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for sure.
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Then if you need to should should not have confidence?
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Yeah, it's math.
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Well, thanks very much for your song. The album hyper
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Dole He's out Eiffel twenty fifth and take it from
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a middlehead. It's a seriously fucking good album. So gratulations
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and ipades.
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Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Can't wait to
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come see y'all down there. Thank you.
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When I can. The mirror Dad who's staring back at me.
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The world's again clearer, but it's easier to see. I'm
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turning into some one that I never know. Pastor is
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coming none done, but I like where I am going. No, No,
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I'm changed and agent.
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Watch me go.
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My window.
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I see both the sun and rain.
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No one's not here without.
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A dose of DNA pain. You'll try to leave.
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The birds skin or on the bruising battery lightning so heavy.
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Lord wants yourself to shattered. I know want change and
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shag and.
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Watch me go, Chancey come man closkey, dying man z.
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Clke hine man, long time, I'm mad, Sam.
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Ray Clear.
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We'll not like in the mirror, stand up the hindle,
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well not get clearer, but like.
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Where I'm going.
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Keep come classy, go mad, tear him, but.
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Clocks going come mad, don't tear them. Has kept man
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clowny b S, cloudy.
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S long talk, Come man you Sam
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Sloss Sip super
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When I can the mirror dad who's staring back at me.
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The world's again clearer.
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Hey everybody, I'm Samantha Fish and you're about to hear
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a song off mighty record called paper Doll.
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Let's do Itana, thanks for joining us today.
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Yeah, thank you, my pleasure.
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So you released a new album, Pipe Doll on April
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to twenty, Like, it's still a little way away, But
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how are you feeling is deciding to get to pressure point?
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No?
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I mean, honestly, oh god, there's there's this weird feeling
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when you finish a record, at least for me, I
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know every artist feels this way. You know, you're you
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walk out of the studio and this giant weight has
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been lifted off your shoulders. It's a much you for
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when you're done with the record, it's like the pressure
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is just like okay, like that's over, thank god, because
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it's always fun, but it is like for me, it's
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always like this mountain that I have to climb, you know,
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to get through it, and it's you know, so it
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feels great, but then it feels like you have the
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secret that you have to keep for you know. Six
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nine months a year they can't share with anybody. So
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I finally feel like I'm able to like let.
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People in on the little secret. That's that's kind of nice.
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Good way looking at it. Can you just rub the
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album chimmy from the musical point of view and then
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what you're actually going for with it?
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God?
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Well, this record, I wanted to lean into my strengths,
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you know, what people might like, what are my super
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power makes me different, what's what makes me unique? You know,
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leaning into my voice, my guitar, my songwriting. I wanted
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to make something that felt urgent, felt like rock and roll,
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but was still rooted in the music that I love
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and it inspires me, which is like blues music, you know,
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uh North Hill country blues specifically. It's a deep well
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of inspiration for me. I just wanted to write great
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songs and write and record with an urgency that you know,
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people would hear it and want to listen again and
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again and again. You know, Timeless Records, that's my goal.
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Nice. Now, it's the first one of your albums to
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actually be pitched to me here an Australian heavy metal magazine,
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So I'm guessing it's a lot more harder edged than
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some of your previous albums.
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You know, I think some of the songs are.
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worked our way to, you know, to get your attention.
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I feel like I've written some pretty heavy music, but
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I think the production on this definitely has, you know,
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this this.
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Rock and roll edge to it. Absolutely.
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Yeah, And you opened it with a song called I'm
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Done Running, which is a great introduction in music. It's tough,
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it's catchy as hell, but it's gets up. It's just
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got a driving beat to the whole thing. Is that
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why you chose to open the album?
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every time you sequence a record, it's like the committee
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comes into play. I mean, I feel like that song
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it's inviting, you know, it's it's definitely inviting. It kind
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of prepares you for what's to come. But it's also
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you know, I feel like it just sort of opens
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the door to a record. It's so hard to sequence,
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you know, I mean, you can you can make a
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completely different album with the same set of songs just
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through the sequence alone. So you know, I definitely have
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my my sequences that I love that I prefer. But
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you know, when when you bring everybody in, I think
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that the consensus was that song is inviting, so let's
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put it first.
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Nice speaking, a sacred thing. Like in the modern I
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h where a lot of music streaming and no one
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really listens to an album start to finish, do you
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still put as much fight as into your order the tracks?
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the what's going to keep them from going, all right,
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I've had enough, I'm gonna listen to something else. The sequence,
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you know, like putting putting songs in an order that
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continue to like surprise you. You know, if you put
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everything up front that sounds the same, people go, I
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know what this record sounds like. I don't need to
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listen to the rest of it. So I feel like
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it's a journey.
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is twenty twenty five. A lot of people just go
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to Spotify and find their favorite song and listen to it.
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want to hear the whole thing. So I think sequencing
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a trip. It's it's art Christ's sakes, Let's let's do
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something with it.
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Sweet Southern Sounds, which are complete polar opposites of each
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other musically, Like, is that an indication of the range
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that's over the whole album?
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Yeah, I'd say so.
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of continue to surprise people with the direction. Yet I
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feel like those songs are different, but there is like
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a there is a similar thread throughout. I think you
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can kind of hear you know that there is a
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blues like a rootsiness in there. Even though they go
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completely different directions, there is there is some cohesive themes throughout.
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at like, there's a beautiful mix of there's rock, blues,
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you got hard rock, there's country, there's a bit of
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soul in their light. How difficult is it to get
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the balance of all of those rod in the creative prices?
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I mean, I just kind of follow what feels right
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for me. You know, these are all things that it's
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not like I'm writing a song in a genre that
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I have no uestion too, or you know, like simply
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out of my comfort zone. I mean a lot of
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everything that I write it comes from you know, comes
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from my heart. So to make it all fit together,
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I feel like there's there's already a cohesive thread involved,
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you know, and so it to me, it's not it's
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not too complex. And also I owe a lot of
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that sort of you know, connection throughout the material to
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the session. You know, when you're in there working with
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the same musicians and producer, you're in you're in a room,
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you're in a space, there is a vibe. It's like
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a snapshot in time. So you know, it's not like
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we're gonna make something way over here and it's something
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that you know, it's all gonna feel like a family,
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you know, like the songs kind of go together, even
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if they're wildly different. There's there's still a connection. You know,
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we're playing the same instruments, we're being recorded on the
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same console. It's like there, it's a moment, you know.
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done running but it's started off like there's a country
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Twain tour. Then I got a little bit of blues
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I was listening to it, I'm sitting down thinking like,
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day to day to dare. So that's why I asked
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that question because from listen, okay, it doesn't sound like
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it'd be an easy thing to play together.
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you like, you know, I think you know, I I
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don't know. I just to me when I hear that song, it.
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even if you're you know, if you listen to a
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song on the record called Fortune Teller, it goes wild
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different directions that it's unexpected.
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find a way to make it work, that's the art, right.
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Bake it till you make it. Yeah, now all read
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in the press release where you said the album and
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a lot of the guitars on it was inspired by
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Mississippi Hills Country blues like I hear in Australia, that
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doesn't really mean much for us. So what actually what
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like a mixture of I mean, it's Delta blues, but
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there's like a heavy drum element involved. There's a drone involved,
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spirit to my favorite kind of rock and roll. This
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sort of raw, loose, kind of like aggressive, you know,
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give no fucks kind of a feel, and there was
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nothing really super polished about it, and to me, it
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just really spoke to me because and it just felt
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It's the truth. It's the truth, the truth.
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all found really interesting. You said that it's taken me
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years to fondly find more voice in a studio setting.
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I get that quote a lot, and I regret saying
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it like that because it sounds like.
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It sounds so sad, no what I mean.
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really relate to this. Singing live on a stage is
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completely different than singing with headphones on in an isolated
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studio setting. For me, like my earlier recording is when
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as a vocalist. Like I'm not trying to short change myself,
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because I put in a lot of work as a singer,
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areas of my voice and get comfortable in ways to
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sing that I maybe haven't naturally been able to really
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tap into. I think I was just starting to kind
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of tap into it with death, Wish and faster, you know,
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like there wasn't there wasn't a ton of restraint in
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my vocals, Like I was able to do the thing
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that I do naturally on stage in a studio, which
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kind of feels good because you're like you have these
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aha moments all the time as a musician, you know, like, oh,
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you know, this little thing unlocks.
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that like I was stifled creatively and I wasn't able
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to be myself or anything. I just I felt like
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my true actual singing voice, like I find I was
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I kind of unlocked something. Was was able to go
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quite go to in the past.
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Nice Paper Doll was written and created mostly on the
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road this time, which is different for you. So was
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it a difficult process touring and writing?
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like it's always like that. You know, you have to
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find time and make it when you can. I did
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you know, and so it just sort of like motivates
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the creative process even further, you know.
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getting out there and doing it, it's it's great fodder
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for inspiration, you know.
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first album you've recorded with your touring band, Like do
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you normally use session musicians?
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it was never like a decision like I chose to
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use these musicians and not these musicians. It's just, you know,
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every album has kind of been like you knows who's
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working on it, where are you at, you know, what,
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what's the band's situation like in this moment. Sometimes you know,
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like during the faster recordings, I didn't have a band
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at the time because it was the pandemic, you know,
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so things were you know, you you bring in different
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musicians at different times for different things because of many
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different reasons. But this album, we were on the road
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touring all over the place, like and just completely crazy
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touring schedule, and you know, I had a really good
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energy in a chemistry with this band, so it just
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felt right natural to go into the studio and continue
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that momentum that we had on.
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They're nice. So what's the next for Samantha fish Off?
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The album comes out of fand slot. If you do
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nothing but record and sure, that's about it.
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Man, that's kind of a life.
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That's kind of a life, gul you know, it's not.
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I feel like I love being on stage. It's where
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I feel most at home. I love creating a show
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that's different from my previous shows. I like the challenge of,
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you know, getting to reimagine everything and make it make
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something new for the.
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Fans, you know, And I just really feel at home.
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good feeling place for me.
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So I don't mind it.
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So if your plans to make it to Australia in
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the new future, because all come.
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Twenty twenty six, they are the rumors that I'm hearing,
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but nothing is confirmed. So this is not an official announcement.
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It's a goal, it's a goal yeah, twenty twenty six. Nice.
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thing I've started doing called fighto bombs. So basically, before
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I speak to you, I'll tell you social media. I
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come up with a few fighters that don't want to
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ask you more about Okay, I one of you that
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proves that you do have a be to meddle in
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your veins.
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Halloween yeah, well yeah, I mean I don't know. I
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always do Halloween up pretty big, I gotta say, which
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is so funny, Like we've I've gotten, I've gotten so much.
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on Halloween because I have to dress up pretty the
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rest of the year. So you know, it's my opportunity
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just to go as you know, disgusting as I want,
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you know, dark disgusting.
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Let's go for it.
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But that was one of my best I mean, I
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use the special effects horns and you know, that was
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a fun look.
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That was a good one, very nice.
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And the other one I found was.
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your pedal boards with them on?
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I do.
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Hall the hell I got the back problems to prove it.
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Just say good.
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You know, Honestly, those stilettos kind of create like a
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nice little point, so it's easier to push the buttons
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than when I'm like when I wear big like I'll
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wear my doctor Martins to sound check, and I'm like
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stamping on all the buttons at the same time, Like Jesus,
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how how do people do this with their regular big,
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clumsy shoes on. I feel like you kind of have
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to have a nice, narrow little point to be precise.
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I'm saying other photos, if you jump it all over
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the place on side Joe, you just shouldn't happen. You
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shouldn't be out to jump and move and should just
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like that.
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that I'm like, why did I date that? That's it
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gives me like intrusive kind of like, oh, I could
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have broken ankle. I can definitely see how that juke
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probably would have let you know, led me somewhere dangerous.
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But I don't know, you know, you feel it in
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the in the moment, like I just know I'm gonna land.
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I have this, Like I just know I can do it.
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That's what That's what the stage to you.
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It gives you all kinds of like confidence and it's
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like you should not have confidence like that in stilettos
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for sure.
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Then if you need to should should not have confidence?
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Yeah, it's math.
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Well, thanks very much for your song. The album hyper
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Dole He's out Eiffel twenty fifth and take it from
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a middlehead. It's a seriously fucking good album. So gratulations
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and ipades.
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Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Can't wait to
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come see y'all down there. Thank you.
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When I can. The mirror Dad who's staring back at me.
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The world's again clearer, but it's easier to see. I'm
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turning into some one that I never know. Pastor is
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coming none done, but I like where I am going. No, No,
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I'm changed and agent.
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Watch me go.
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My window.
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I see both the sun and rain.
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No one's not here without.
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A dose of DNA pain. You'll try to leave.
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The birds skin or on the bruising battery lightning so heavy.
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Lord wants yourself to shattered. I know want change and
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shag and.
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Watch me go, Chancey come man closkey, dying man z.
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Clke hine man, long time, I'm mad, Sam.
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Ray Clear.
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We'll not like in the mirror, stand up the hindle,
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well not get clearer, but like.
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Where I'm going.
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Keep come classy, go mad, tear him, but.
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Clocks going come mad, don't tear them. Has kept man
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clowny b S, cloudy.
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S long talk, Come man you Sam
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Sloss Sip super