Donovan Mitchell Rumors, Kawhi Leonard Extension, Pascal Siakam's Future, News Reaction

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What is crackoacing fellow thermonuclear a everts. I am Damn Falley. Let me
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at you out, my co host
grant you once again. This week we
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have our mega NBA trade deadline grimers
starting to roll out, where we will
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cover every team in depth as possible. The West, the Eastern Conference excuse
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me, will be going live on
Friday, so please check it out.
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I wanted to tackle some news and
rumors, though some of which we might
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not get to immediately. Some of
these are teams in the East, so
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yes, we might talk about them. Otherwise, some of the news items
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just don't pertain to the trade deadline. So I wanted to go through react
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to some of these rumors, some
of the stuff that's being bandied about.
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We'll see if anything breaks. As
I'm recording this in the middle day on
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Thursday, so I got one of
my phones right here, and if anything
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pops up, we will we will
rap about it. So I put together
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a list, and let's start with
the Cleveland Cavaliers who have been balling amid
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injuries. Even the Darius Garland out, Evan Mobley out, Donovan Mitchell missed
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some time as well. They were
chugging along, and you have to credit
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Jared Allen for just playing like an
absolute behemoth, and it reinforces if you
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also need to credit you know,
Craig Porter Junior has been filling good minutes
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for them. You have to credit
the minute they've been getting from the small
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ball furs. Sam Merrill has been
an absolute delight on most nights to watch.
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He's also you know, if you
watch watch him, that dude really
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competes defensively, and so he's not
always going to be great at it.
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But this is not like some sieve
necessarily, and so I think that makes
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the cabs a little bit more interesting. Isaaca Corro's had some really good stretches
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for them this year as well.
They are in the market for a three
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and D wing according to mark Stein, I believe it was. And that's
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where this report though, comes from
mark Stein, which is the focus of
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this cavalier stuff, so marks down
at his substack. Sources said the Miami
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Heat continue to have a bona fide
interest in Donovan Mitchell despite Cleveland's don't even
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call us approach, and they could
well choose to test that resolve with Mitchell
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proposals after Miami's trade pursuits of Bradley
Beal and Damian Loward over the summer ended
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with neither player landing in South Beach. That's a mouthful, So basically,
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the Heat are still interested that Mitchell. Stein also notes that the Knicks and
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the Nets continue to be mentioned as
well, but that multiple executives from rival
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front offices have described Miami as a
prime team to watch for Mitchell fit wise,
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So take everything with a grain of
salt when you're hearing it from rival
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from an office executives mentioning other teams
where Okay, it's clear that this is
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not necessarily coming from inside the house
and when this always could be. This
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could even be just Miami talking as
well. And look, on some level,
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it probably is that they're going to
be interested in Player X, the
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Calves. I do believe we probably
telegraph. Don't even call us approach because
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you don't give up the package for
Mitchell that you did just to short circuit
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the entire thing less than two seasons
into it. I'm sorry, the injuries
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you think that could change their timeline? Okay, sure, unless Mitchell actually
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asks for out, I just don't
think this is a discussion. And in
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the event it actually gets to that, it's going to be an off season
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thing. I don't even think his
trade demand would come now inside one month
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to the trade that and we've seen
more shocking things, and this is certainly
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something to watch if the Cavs get
the sense that, hey, he's not
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gonna stick around. But the reason
you gave up so much to get him
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is because he had the three guaranteed
years left on his contract before he can
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reach free agency, and you see
out two of those. If you find
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out that Mobley and Garland for some
reason are done, look, I get
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it, and it comes down to
the same thing with what we've seen from
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Cleveland. This stretch is basically reinforced
that they are better off finding bigs that
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can stretch the floor alongside Mobi or
Alan rather than having the two of them.
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Yeah, certain matchups, it will
work, and they're going to be
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hell fired defensively, but the offense, the ball is going to be less
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sticky. When those two aren't on
the court. You're going to see just
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better flour rounch in general. And
to be fair, we haven't given enough
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time for that dynamic to marinate.
Alongside Mitchell and Strus and Garland just not
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having that sample size. That is
something that Cavs have to look at,
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and that would be more of an
offseason thing as well. For all these
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teams. I've seen some people mention
that Chared Awn as a trade target.
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I just don't know how you reasonably
trade him right now with the way he's
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playing, Evan Mobley being out,
So there's that element of it. When
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it comes to Miami and Mitchell,
I would agree though that they make the
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most sense from a fit perspective,
and even as a trade partner right now,
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I still don't love the idea of
Donovan Mitchell in New York with Jalen
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Brunton. I think you would need
someone if you're going to go that small
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who's just going to give you more
defensive juice. And if they're that small
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in the first place, they're probably
not giving you a ton defensive juice,
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or if they are, they're not
giving you enough on on the offensive end.
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Brooklyn would be semi interesting, but
I have no idea where the nets
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are going. They're kind of just
spinning their wheels right now. Where if
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you did go into a consolidation trade, I understand the incentive you have to
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do that, giving your your draft
obligations moving forward. That would just be
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weird. And there are other teams
that could come into the mix, but
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it does seem like Miami and one
of the New York squads would be on
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Mitchell's list. Again if he asks
for out, Miami becomes interesting over the
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offseason, I think because you would
be able to put a bunch of picks
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and swaps on the table. I
doubt you're getting Jimi hawkez in it,
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but if you could, I mean
you absolutely should. He's he's been one
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of the best, one of the
three best rookies this year. And they
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also this isn't a destination where in
theory, if you're getting rid of Mitchell,
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Tyler Hero could work. I don't
know that you want to see a
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ton of him and Darius Garland playing
together, but if you wanted to stagger
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them, bring Hero off the bench, you are losing the Donovan Mitchell shot
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creation element, and so Tyler Hero
could make sense there, Whereas Utah kind
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of beginning of rebuild, they were
going to be guard heavy anyway, that
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didn't make a ton of sense.
Portland Dido having Scoot Henderson Affry Simon's Cleveland
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would be different again if and when
we get to that point, I just
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don't think we're there, and I
definitely don't think the Cavs should be there
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unless something changes on Mitchell's end on
the Detroit Pistons. Caid Cunningham it will
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be out for at least seven to
ten days with a left knee strain,
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which he suffered during Sunday's loss to
the Denver Nuggets, So we've at least
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already passed a few days worth of
that timeline. I will say. Prior
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to his injury, Caid was like
balling pretty consistently. He was averaging about
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twenty five points and eight assists on
fifty nine plus true shooting, which is
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on the cusp of league average when
you're just looking at basically, it was
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basically like the end of November through
through now, the start of December through
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now, and so to be at
fifty nine true shooting that's on the cusp
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of league average. His turnover rate
also went from was at thirteen point seven
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percent on twenty nine point four usage
during this stretch. That's compared to sixteen
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point eight turnover rate on thirty one
point three percent usage before that, and
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a fifty point three true shooting percentage. So until November thirtieth, I believe
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was how I was. How I
had split it up. He had a
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fifty point nine true shooting and that
shot up to almost sixty, closer to
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sixty towards the end of November November
thirty if, Yeah, so I confirmed
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that. That's a pretty long stretch. We're talking a month and a half
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ish to be at. That's a
big deal because if he's going to be
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efficient, he was making better decisions
on his drives, his threes weren't falling
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it necessarily consistent clip, but he
had some red like some hot games from
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beyond the arc, and he was
shooting. And he's at least shooting almost
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thirty eight percent on his wide open
opportunities again during this stretch. Overall,
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big loss for the Pistons, but
it's it's better that it's not serious.
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Speaking of it not being serious,
luckily, Tyres Haliburton will be had at
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least two weeks with a Grade one
strain in his left hamstring. He suffered
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it in Monday's win over Boston.
The Pacers are relieved it wasn't worse.
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Anyone who was watching is relieved it
wasn't worse. It looked pretty bad when
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he slipped and kind of did a
split on the floor in the restricted area,
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and the team reaction was just that
was terrifying as well. I don't
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think this shouldn't have unless there's a
setback and he winds up missing like three
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or four weeks is it, you
know, sort of panic mode here,
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You're not there yet. I do
wonder if this impacts his All Star starting
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candidacy at all. The fan vote
element of it I think will help him
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there, like just people have noticed
him. We'll see what happens with the
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players. I do think media unless
he winds up missing like the like is
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out until the All Star break,
I still think that this shouldn't have any
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bearing on where he ends up in
that All Star pecking order, which is
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good because you want players in there
who deserve it. He deserves it right
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now in the games in Indiana,
and so you want to see him.
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It will be interesting to see how
the Pacers fair here. Their offense is
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that he tread water for the most
part with some of their lineups when Halley's
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on the bench, but they're just
getting blasted overall by like almost nine points
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per one hundred possesions when he's on
the court, I would expect to see
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more of Benedick Mathern, who,
by the way, this is not you
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know anyone who's listened. We're not
the highest on Benanic Mathern. He's been
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playing really well for like, I
don't know, since the start of December.
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It feels like basically he's been slashing
over this long stretch fifty four percent
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from two forty three percent on threes
and eighty five percent at the foul line.
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He looks more even keeled. There
are still gonna just be times like,
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well, why can't he pass more? Where's the defensive consistency? But
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you're just getting to a point where
it feels like he's a more regularly reliable
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contributor, which is a big deal
for this team, especially with Hallie out.
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The big question here, and this
leads into another rumor, is would
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this change the Pacers trade deadline approach
at all? Grant I could get into
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that. I don't think that halliburton
injury changes anything. Woj did say though,
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that the Pacers are determined not to
give up Jaris Walker and a Siakam
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deal, and I'm just like at
this point, So whatre you like one
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pick and expiring salaries then, or
are you trying to sell you know,
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Obi Toppin as just like the primary
asseid in that deal. I can't envision
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a scenario, especially given that Toronto
wants back actual players. It seems where
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the Pacers trade for Siakam and they
don't give up Jaris Walker or Benedic Matherin.
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And I don't think there's a need
for Bennanick Maathine in Toronto right now.
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Maybe you'd want some of the shock
creation if Siakam does leave there,
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and if let's just say, you
don't put Jarvis Walker on the table.
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And I know that he is Caitlin
Cooper had posted some stuff about him,
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and I know he's shown some flashes
in the G League. But if you're
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not giving him up, so then
what do you not want to give up
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your first round picks at all?
Like you, I would imagine that Pascal
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Siakam is going to take a minimum
of the equivalent of three first round picks
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to get I know that they technically
got less for og that might be the
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eye of the holder. Detroit's Pick's
going to be number thirty one, thirty
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two whatever, and then you got
a manual quickly that's like close to two
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first round picks right there combined.
And then depending on how you view RJ.
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Barrett and so, are you just
trading away your entire future draft with
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swaps that might appeal to Toronto enough
even though it's not actual players to say,
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Okay, hey, we'll do this. At the same time, the
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Pacers aren't a type of team that
mortgages the future to that degree, so
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that feels very much like posturing.
If they're interested in Siakam, it will
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cost them one of their their blue
chip youngsters that's not Tarrey's Haliburton would be,
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would be my guest, And I
do believe the Pacers. I've come
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more around on this. Everyone who
listens knows that I'm more of the They
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need to skew three four here.
Siakam cannot slide up to the three.
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He could slide down to the five, though, and so that might make
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it easier to give up a a
jail On Smith and trade like another big
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in addition to Jarris Walker. I
mean, and just I think the Pacers
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you want that extra shot creator who
won't torpedo your defense or is more bankable
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on defense, and the fit with
Miles Turner's just super clean. Maybe your
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rebounding is not necessarily where you want
it to be, but I think between
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Siakam and Turner and then you're gonna
get from your your guards in Halliburton,
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if Bruce Brown is crashing out there, that's going to be enough. I
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would just be very interested in seeing, you know, Siakam translates well into
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how fast the Pacers want to play. He can attack an open space in
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the half court and its three ball
has been falling for like a month now,
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basically. So I'm this is to
say I'm more coming around on the
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Siakam deal. This is all to
say you don't give up real value if
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you don't think he's going to stay. And we know that Siakam has We'll
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get into that in a little bit. Some of his own preferred destinations here
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the Golden State Warriors, there's just
a bunch of rumors floating around out there.
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They don't want to trade Kaminga,
They're willing to trade Wiggins. The
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report today from Sham's with everybody not
named Steph Curry is touchable. So Steph
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Curry is the only untouchable. I
don't think Sham's used touchable. I use
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the word touchable. That's how we
should say. Everyone on this roster is
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touchable, with the exception of Steph
Curry. Also, following their really bad
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loss to the Pelicans on Wednesday,
Steve Kerr said he thinks this team has
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quote lost its spirit, confidence and
belief, all right, and then Steph
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Curry this was big to me.
Was as so this wasn't unprompted. But
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Steph Curry on whether the Warriors need
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deadline that this group should stay together, he said, it's pretty evident that
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if things stay the same, that's
the definition of insanity, right, do
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the same thing and expect the same
result. I'm assuming he meant different results
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or that he was misquoted there.
That's like, honestly good for Steph.
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I saw people were kind of clowning
him, saying, oh, you live
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long enough. He turned into Lebron
James fucked that. Like, this is
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not someone who has complained or telegraphed
that he needs to get rid of people.
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There's definitely been some sort of undercurrents
or like he's not not shade,
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but like He's definitely called out without
calling out certain teammates or players or mentalities
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before, but never this forcefully,
And like that's just different from saying that
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this team needs We haven't had really
a Steph moment where he said we have
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to make changes at the trade deadline, even when he's asked. And good
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for fucking him, because you're in
the end of your window. No matter
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how you feel about him, You
look gassed towards the end of some of
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these games. The load your shouldering
is just absolutely mind blowing. You have
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a dude in Draymond Green who can't
even stay on the floor, not because
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he can't play, but because he
can't control his in game emotions at points.
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Good for Steph. Honestly, I
just don't know. I've gone through
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it. I actually like the idea
of de Jante Murray in Golden State.
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I've just there's just like no fix
here though. That makes me feel a
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lot better about this team. Whereas
even if you slop Pascal Siakam onto them
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and that could you know the package
that they give up to get him,
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depending on what that is, you'll
feel different about the roster. But it's
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they're already kind of deep and what
they really need is just the viable number
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two guy. It feels like the
clear second best player who's actually not gonna
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get you know, suspended or ejected
every other night, and that Siakam does
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fit that bill to an extent.
But if you're going to play him with
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Draymond, since I assumed Raymond wouldn't
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to then surround them with enough shooting
because that's what that's why you could play
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Draymond Kaman Looney, who has not
been great this year by the way,
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together is that you just always had
the thermonuclear af shooting of Klay Thompson and
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Steph Curry that is still there to
some extent. Clay's been playing better of
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late, but like you still need
to make sure that the rest of your
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non core lineups are then going to
have enough shooting on the floor. And
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I guess between like if you went
Steph, POD's, Clay, Draymond and
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Siakam, like that is a lineup
that would intrigue me. What is you
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know, I'm assuming the Raptors would
want CP three salary in a deal even
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more. And we're gonna get to
more about Shams shams Cham's it's not Shamsiakam
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and the Raptors in a minute,
But like, is Wiggans going out as
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part of the salary? Is that
a possibility or if he's not, then
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you're still bringing him off the bench. And could that get what happens with
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Johnathan Kaminga. Is he going out
in that deal with the Raptors insist on
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his inclusion or you building this thing
around Moody, who, by the way,
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I think the world of Moody and
I would love a team to just
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free him at this point and give
him a ton of ton of minutes.
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But are you building it then around
Moody and picks and salary? You need
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to see what the roster looks like
afterwards. And look, the Warriors are
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deep. They've gotten good minutes from
Pods, They've gotten great minutes from TJD.
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Dario Sharitch has been one of the
like maybe the single best minimum signing
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in the business. I don't want
to say that blanket statement. I haven't
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really considered it. I know we
have others balling out in certain places.
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It's like you feel good about points
of their depth, especially if they can
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get a little healthier what's going on
with GP two. At the same time,
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it's I put Siakam on this team, and even relative to the projected
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cost of like player like rotational costs
of getting him there, I don't know
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if I feel much different with the
word like. It feels like the player
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they need or who could transform this
franchise is either not available or they actually
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need to make the tough call of
well, it's really more about do we
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move off of Clay's expiring contract?
Do we look at moving Draymond? If
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it feels like and this is how
I'll frame it, that they need to
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get rid of two of Andrew Wiggins, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson, And
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that's just a very awkward spot to
be And like the meaningful ocker, maybe
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I'm wrong, Maybe Siaka would come
in and do it. I would make
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the move if he's available, but
the Warriors' core absolutely needs to change.
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I don't want to be a hypocrite
though, and pretend like I to just
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say it for them to do something
without having a solution. And I don't
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have a solution because even the best
case scenarios, you know, I think
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that they should really look into can
they get like a DeAndre Hunter who's a
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more reliable shooter, but he doesn't
pass a rebound, kind of like Kaminga
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and Andrew Wiggins, but is more
reliable shooter than those two. You can
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build the deal around Chris Paul's salary
to get there. Maybe a couple first,
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along with Moses Moody. I proposed
one first because I think Hunters probably
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on a net value contract, but
a net negative contract. Hawk's fans weren't
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thrilled about that one, though I
get it. I mean, reasonable minds
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can disagree. Some of them were
asking me for me to be fired,
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which feels like that goes touch too
far. But what are you gonna do?
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That's the nature of fake trades.
They could get some like that.
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I think the balance is out there
roster pretty well. You need to do
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it, you need to do it, and it's just like, are they
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gonna do it? I think this
front office is definitely less married to keeping
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the court together. I mean,
how could they not be, But like,
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I just don't know that any move
out there. If it was if
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you told me they acquired a Larry
market In or Michale Bridges, I'd probably
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feel a lot differently. That's not
to say those players are better than Siakam
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because they're not. The fit for
both of them is just cleaner. I
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just don't think you have the equity
to get which is the primary issue.
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So if you can get Siakam,
go out and get him. If it's
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not him, I do like the
idea of Dejontay Murray, can you get
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someone else? I know in Discord
Ruby sca really wanted vote down. Bogdanovic
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makes sense on this roster, not
if you're keeping Clay and then you also
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have pods. To me, just
that's my personal opinion. The extra shot
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creation would would be great. Can
you insulate them enough defensively to where you
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play Dejonte, Clay, Bogdanovich and
Steph at once and then with Raymond at
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the five. I just don't know
if that provide enough. If you can
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get him, he's an upgrade over
what you have, But it adds to
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the move needs to be consolidatory in
nature. It can't be the Warriors go
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and get like two guys to add
to disprotation that's already kind of a smattering
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of depth. We're gonna jump ahead
of the Grizzlies since it's about It's.
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Well, there's two news items for
the Grizzlies, one of which is breaking
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and it's another injury run per Sham's
Memphis Grizzlies guard Mark It's Smart has sustained
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a severe right finger injury and we'll
be silined for approximately six weeks. Another
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difficult injury blow in the season for
the Grizzlies. Yeah, and I would
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think that takes him off the trade
market and so far as he was ever
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on there does sort of further their
tank the Grizzlies also, and that's a
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blow. Smart has not been good. We had the discord member Austin was
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saying he was he's basically dat more
expensive Davion Mitchell. That just goes too
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far. He is still like a
more dynamic offensive player at his peak.
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He's on a new team, hasn't
enough time necessarily to familiarize himself with the
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players, including John Morant here.
I still think Marcus smartest valuable. I
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still think the Grizzlies are for paid
to get him, and you probably resently
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you definitely can't move now that he's
injured. You're never gonna match his value
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per return. They also, though, did sign Vince Williams to a three
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year, guaranteed seven and a half
million dollars seven point three million dollar contract.
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There's a team option on year four. They need to wave back be
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Amble to do it. I would
look for Biamble to maybe wind up back
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there though after the trade deadline,
maybe when they've sort of consolidated some of
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their own roster spots, assuming they
they do anything about that. I do
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really like Vince Williams. He's six' four. I said this in discord.
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Join our discord if you haven't already, plays like he's six' eight.
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There's been some peaks and valleys to
his three point stroke, but he's
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at roughly thirty eight percent on spot
up threes for the season. That is
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more than high enough when you're looking
at the grizzlies other wing options, and
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then just his defensive assignments. This
is someone who when he's on the court,
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he will guard the opponent's best player
basically, irrespective of how big those
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players are. And if you're hearing
Barhey in the background, my dogs are
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mad. They think I'm not giving
Vincent Williams enough of his flowers. Apparently
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like that could be lugad rons.
It could be Kevin Durant, It could
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be Tyris Halliburton, it could be
Kyrie Irving. He's gonna defend those dudes.
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That's fucking cool. Good for him. Could end up being a great
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deal for the Grizzlies. Bummer about
the Marcus Smart injury, just a just
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another footnote on what is becoming a
lost season for them. Their draft pick.
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We'll see where it ends up.
I would say the only teams that
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are guaranteed to have a worse record
than them right now, I go san
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Antonio and Detroit and Washington are the
only teams. And san Antonio could catch
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fire just they do with some talent, but they've they've not caught fire just
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yet. On the La Clippers front, Kawhi Leonard per Woe Jenscham's signed a
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three year, one hundred fifty three
million dollar extension that includes a fifteen percent
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trade kicker. The projections on his
starting salary are weird. They say fifty
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two million. That's higher than his
actual max. And so it seems to
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just expect the current salary cap is
going to increase by ten percent next year,
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which is the most it can increase
in any given season. We've been
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working with a number. What is
the number I have in our little salary
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sheet here, I've been working with
one hundred and forty two million dollars.
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This is clear, and that would
put Kawi's max at about forty nine point
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seven. This seems to intimate that
the max is going to be higher.
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That might be or the excuse me, the salary cap is going to spike
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by ten percent, or just typical
agents speak where they're trying to frame the
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deal in the best life for their
clients. Would you also know that Paul
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George extension talks are ongoing and that
this kind of set the floor for what
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they would have to give him.
What I find interesting is in Brian to
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Porrek from bleacher Port, friend of
the podcast and co worker Brian to Porak,
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who also writes at Liberty Ballers and
hosts the NBA pod. He also
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writes at Forbes follow him, had
said something about does this make it less
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likely verging on impossible, that George
and Harden get longer deals than this,
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Because what's notable here is that Kawhi
in Net probably took a winds up,
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taking a little too a lot less
or not substantially less, but he takes
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could be up to more than ten
million dollars, less than what his actual
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max ends up would end up being. But he also didn't get a player
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option, and there's only three years
tacked on to this one. As part
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of the new CBA rules, they
were able to work it so that he
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declines his player option. He's having
three three years tacked on to it.
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That's not four and it could have
been four. And so does that mean
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that Paul George has no shot at
getting four? That James Harden can't even
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get a four year deal and he
hits free agency. That benefits the Clippers
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just looking at what their window is
is that you don't have to commit to
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what is gonna fast become an agent
corp for too long. I'm just curious
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whether it impacts those extension talks at
all. What is also interesting here is
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that the Clippers have basically said,
and this was always gonna be the case,
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but they've reiterated, fuck it again, We're going to be a second
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Apron team for the foreseeable future.
That really makes them an interesting team at
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the trade deadline. They've been the
best team in the league, or one
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of the two or three best teams
the league basically since the start of December,
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and so you can look at them
and say, well, now the
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Terrence Man doesn't miss a three in
twenty twenty four, do we really need
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anything you want to talk about us? Oh, the fact that PJ.
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Tucker's not playing and whould be put
in this big spot. While Vita Zubox
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looks like someone who needs to play
thirty plus minutes a game, I would
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still say that I would like to
see them get another It doesn't need to
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be a wing, but like a
body that can slot in it. The
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four maybe also play some small ball
five. That's a pretty tall order.
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At the same time, because of
where they're at now with just the second
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apron, they're not going to be
able to combine aggregate salaries soon, and
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so do you take advantage of that
opportunity now? And what if you were
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willing to put the twenty thirty first
round pick on the table, who and
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what does that get you? I
mean, they can get to a twenty
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million dollar player pretty easily, and
they could shoot their sites higher than that.
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If they're willing to maybe talk about
Terrence Man, who should not be
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untouchable. I'm not giving up Terrence
Man to get a Dorian Hinnie Smith,
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a Kelly on Lineika, any of
those sort of names. But if you're
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kind of looking at a deal that
could get you, you wouldn't even need
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to do this. Does that twenty
thirty pick, if the Hawks are really
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willing to blow it up, get
you DeAndre Hunter or Yekakungu? You could
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reasonably get to that if you were
willing to do Man in your twenty thirty
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pick? Does that get you plus
other salary? Does that get you Jeremy
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Grant? Does that go a bridge
too far? I would love Jeremy Grant
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on this team. He could play
from some small ball four you need to
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trust on everybody else to small ball
five. Excuse me, you need to
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really trust on everybody else to rebound. But he's an extra layer of creation.
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Just you look at the way that
he can attack in the half court,
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mostly some straight line stuff, even
when he's attacking from like the forty
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five angles, but like he still
has kind of the speed in the dexterity
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to do some things with the ball. In addition is being one of the
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more liable off ball players, and
then that's giving you just more defensive insulation
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in certain of your lineups where it's
like you if you played Paul George Kawhi,
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Leonard Jeremy Grant, excuse me,
and then just you're able to play
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so Harden's in there, there's your
four main combination and then yeah, Zubox
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works in there. Could you also
get away with minutes if you want to
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russell Westbrook in that scenario and downsize
with Grant at the five, you could
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have Man on the court. I
like that setup. I just I don't
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like the idea of giving up Man. And so it's just like if you
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wanted another I don't know if I
Yaka Kungu really is fits the bill of
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the small ball big for them.
He's not going to stretch the floor.
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He would be like he's going to
be better, like his zubats is great
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foot speed on the defensive end,
and he's a really good rim protector.
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Oh, Kungou would give you some
more switchability juice there if you wanted that
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for the playoffs. You could also
just shoot your sites lower at this point
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and it's like, well, could
we get Dorian Phinney Smith? And I
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mean nik Klas would definitely cost you
the twenty thirty pick, but Dornyan Phiney
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Smith would be a good fit on
this team. I don't know if you
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want to get him to small ball
five options. I mentioned Kelly Olynock again,
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you could match the salaries pretty easy
and does it. It shouldn't take
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that first round pick to get him
unless you're also, well, do we
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want something else someone else? Excuse
me from Utah. I don't think anyone,
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even if you're combining them Jordan Clarkson
and Kelly Olinic doesn't do that for
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me for the first round pick.
My point really is, though, is
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the Clippers, and they always were
there at least a team to watch at
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the trade deadline. They're so good
right now that it's tough to envision them
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even getting Jeremy Grant. Let's you
him as an example. Does it feel
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like overkill just because it's well,
we have our big three. Russ just
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like he's been and look, Russ
will have his knights where he's just absolutely
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terrible, and then he's gonna have
his nights, especially when he plays the
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Suns where he's really locked in defensively. The pace he can added this team
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and the way he's accepted a smaller
role has been great for the Clippers overall.
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I know he might not have been
the best soldier so to speak with
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the Lakers. Maybe we'll never know
the full story there, but I've been
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really impressed with his demeanor on the
Clippers and at times his play. But
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like having all of these guys and
then if you're gonna keep man, is
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it just well, do we really
need to aim and with how well Zubots
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have been playing, we really need
to aim our sites that high? Maybe
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you don't. I would just note
that it's gonna get so much harder if
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you ever wanted to make a substantial
trade and not be flipping one of your
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star players to use that twenty thirty
pick then and so maybe it's just perhaps
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the idea of, well, we're
gonna use that pick in a smaller salary
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to get someone who would be cheaper
anyway, like a Jaylen Johnson in this
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year of his contract. That would
That's my dream yet for so many teams,
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because I just want to see him
freed from Atlanta. But he's been
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playing, he's been in Atlanta.
The Lakers very quickly Darvin Ham's job is
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not in jeopardy. He received a
text of voted confidence from Jeanie buss Stein
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also reiterated that he should be safe
for now. The Lakers have won two
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straight games. I just I don't
know if you changed the coach, how
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much better off they are. I
haven't been a fan of Darvin ham signing
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injuries as much, just because,
Yeah, the Lakers have dealt with a
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bunch of absences and Gabe Vincent's excuse
me, that void is huge. He
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he was someone that I thought maybe
could close for them when they signed him.
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I get that element of it.
A lot of teams are dealing with
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injuries, and it's not like you're
dealing with superstar injuries. Anthony Davis and
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Lebron James have battled some stuff,
but they buy in large been available,
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and so that has rubbed me the
wrong way. And some of the lineups
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just don't make a ton of sense, and like the way he deprioritizes spacing
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at points, it rubs you the
wrong way. I just I'm just not
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someone who technically calls. It takes
a lot for me to call for a
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coach's job, and I wasn't there
with him anyway, and I would still
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be fairly it wouldn't shock me but
fairly surprised if he gets bounced before the
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end of this season. The Knicks
were denied a disabled player exception for Mitchell
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Robinson, who underwent underwent and left
ankle surgery that means he could return this
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season. I will say this felt
like these things are normally just granted.
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I guess it's encouraging that the NBA's
determined we don't know if he'll be out
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through June, like that's basically the
criteria here. I just don't I can't
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imagine helped that when Tom Dibdeau was
talking about it, he stuck to the
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eight to ten week timeline. Was
just like, oh, well, you
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know, you can ask Leon Rose
if he's gonna be out for this season.
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Leon Rose has fucking talked to the
media at number one, and that
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just kind of undermined the whole disabled
player exception application in itself. So I
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found that a little funny. Does
the Knicks's recent play impact their trade deadline
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approach it all, especially if they
know Mitch's coming back, That'll be a
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big question. Hartenstein's been bawling.
I think the the implications that they need
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another ball handler creator and I would
agree, but Duce McBride's giving you some
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good minutes. Did it with Quentin
Grimes. The ball is just moving incredibly
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crisply in New York's half court right
now. I don't know if that's an
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extension of because og Anoby is in
the Capslock Creator, and there's that incentive
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for RJ. Barrett, so like
he's gonna put the ball on the floor
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a little bit more. We've seen
what RJ. Barrett can do in Toronto,
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We've seen it owns to New York. He wasn't just like this hopeless
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ball stopper for long stretches and entire
games or possessions at a time. So
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I watched the offense since they've gotten
o'gannaobi, there's a lot over the past
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few games. I found myself thinking, with the way that Dante DiVincenzo and
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Josh Harder kind of filling the gaps
here, and if Duce McBride and grihyme'
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is gonna give you reroalw minutes,
why go out and get certainly like,
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do you even need a Brocton?
Do you even need a de Jontay Murray?
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He still kind of intrigues me just
by rolling some of your assets into
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Murray is a singular asset and then
making another move later. I find myself
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not wanting to mess with this Knicks
team, but I also think I'm in
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the honeymoon phase of watching them with
OG and that come playoff time, you
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want the third guy who can generate
his own shot aside from Randall and bruns
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In, especially when one Brunton is
small and two given Julius Randall's playoff track
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record. Still great news overall that
Mitchell Robinson might be coming back because the
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Knicks, just in terms of not
having star power, they might have between
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Robinson and Hartenstein the most capable forty
eight minute center rotationally. I mean,
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there's Jared Allen and Evan Mobley for
sure, and then anytman. Minnesota has
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Karl Anthony Towns and Rudy Colbert and
Nasriez, but they're up there. And
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so I've been really impressed with Hart's
play. He's been great defensively, and
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he's a little more dynamic on a
little more DNA. He's a lot more
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dynamic on offense than Mitch Eric's Boelstra
per. Both Boje and John signed an
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eight year, one hundred and twenty
million dollars extension with the Heat. It's
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the most guaranteed money per WJES for
a head coach in North American sports history.
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This is supposed sixteenth season at the
Helm. He's made six NBA finals,
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won two titles. I still am
just amazed he's never won Coach of
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the Year. Will that change this
season? Good for him? Easy decision
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if you or the Heat. We're
seeing coaching salaries go up. He is
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technically the second highest paid coach in
the league on a per year basis,
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behind Greg Popovich. Just as guaranteed
money is wild. I mean, these
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are coaches made more than some players, but like eight years in one twenty,
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now of a sudden, you know
that your coach is going to be
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making more per year than a you
know, a PJ. Tucker, like
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to mid level. That's like this
is an average of we're talking like was
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it fifteen million dollars a year?
And so that's like that's more than the
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mid level, the non tax players
mid level in the NBA. That's a
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pretty pretty big deal. So it's
like, yeah, fifteen million dollars a
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year, which is right now about
two and a half million dollars more than
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the mid level good for coaches,
and I think Spoe particularly is just a
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genius and I won't I will.
He just knows how to pull these different
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levers. Even this year, the
Heat are six games above five hundred,
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despite Jim hawk Is leading the team
in total minutes and neither Bam nor Jinny
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Jinny that's my mother in law's name, Jimmy ranking inside the top three.
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Plus you've had Martin being banged up
for most of the year, and your
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top three in total minutes are Duncan
Robinson and Kyle Lowry. And just the
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way that the Heat they cycle through
these guys that they'll find in the G
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League or just on Earth off the
scrap heap, and then even just the
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renaissance of Duncan Robinson and the way
that they've been able to deploy him since
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the playoffs. To me, Spoe
isn't just the best coach in the NBA.
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He's the best coach in the NBA. And it's by a sizable margin
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at this point. I'm interested to
see. I think a lot of it's
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going to depend on record. And
you have Chris Finch in Minnesota, you
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have Jamal Mosley in Orlando as good
candidates. You have Mark Dagnold in Oklahoma
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City. There's always a lot of
deserving candidates for Coach of the Year depending
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on where the he finished. They'll
be interesting to see how much love he
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gets. This is absolutely someone who
if he never wins a Coach of the
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Year awards, that's mind blowing to
me. The Sixers Joelle Embiid missed the
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game on Wednesday with swelling in his
left knee. He's now missed six of
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eight due to various injuries and been
absent in nine of Phillies thirty six games.
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That puts him on pace for under
sixty five appearances. Just something to
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monitor because we know how much he
wants to win a second MVP award.
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The priority needs to be just making
sure he's whole for the playoff push.
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I have continued and the Zach Low
had mentioned this, I believe on his
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podcast and at the point where I'd
like to see Philly do more than hold
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serve and see what their cap space
gets them in free agency, I'd like
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to see them do something at the
deadline. I don't hate the idea of
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de Jante Murray there either, So
Benny about maybe should they have gone after
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Marcus Smart before his finger injury,
that's clearly off the table. I don't
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think they. I really don't love
zach Lavine there, even though he would
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help them. Just that money and
what do you actually need to give up
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to get him. I'd like to
see them to sort of just monitor the
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market for opportunities that that might arise. And I wish they note that I
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wish because I don't have a rooting
interest in this team. They I do
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think their big move will need to
come aforem in a wing that maybe has
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some ball skills surprise, surprise,
A lot of teams need that. Orgian
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Nobe would have been perfect even though
he doesn't have a ton of ball skills.
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He can he can do some stuff
in open space. If mckal bridges
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became available, the Philly's just not
going to have the best package based off
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the picks that they can move.
And we know Max he's not going to
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be on the table, and so
I can't pretend to sit here and say,
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oh, I know like this,
this name is out there and they
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shouldn't care too much about adding salary
for next season. Someone like bo Don
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Magdonovich for them though, that's someone
where you could still you have a salary
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on the books for next year.
It could still carve out a MAX slot
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well, carrying Tyrese Max, He's
cap hold, just something for them to
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consider there and on the Raptors.
So per Sam Amick of The Athletic,
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this is this is not verbatim,
but The Athletic reported Seakam's desire for max
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deal is set regardless of whether he
stays in Toronto past February's deadline or is
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moved to another team. He has
also reportedly expressed the fact that he's not
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seen the Sacramento Kings as a quote
long term fit. Now, I'll start
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with the King's part of this.
I agree with Siakam, and I saw
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some Kings fans interpreting this as well. We've had players like Chris we come
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here and they were happy in Sacramento. I don't think this is an issue
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of oh, Sacramento sucks, or
even that the Kings are a terrible organization.
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Now, I just don't like the
sabonus Siakam fit on the offensive end,
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and Siakam if he wants to not
just retain his value but be a
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featured option or be in the best
position to succeed both individually and collectively.
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I don't think it's with Sacramento and
and Doma Simonis. I'm open to the
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idea that it won't flop. I
just think that that is such an awkward
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dynamic and I wouldn't love it on
the max contract front. What is do
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like? I get it that there's
I'm stumbling here. I wouldn't. I'm
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at the point where and this is
either me I'll admit to either I was
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wrong to say that the Raptors should
have given up Siakam instead of Annobie.
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Or is it just we're getting more
information because we know what the Raptors that
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look like, because they have another
dynamic creator in the mix with Emmanuel quickly
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and even just the minute they've been
getting from from Marj Barrett. It's a
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combination of both I was wrong and
there getting more information, so we should
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change our takes if something is off. I want to make it clear in
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Toronto, where Siakam doesn't want to
be there or the franchise doesn't value him
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or doesn't want to pay him,
then yet you need to move him at
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the trade headline because the biggest disaster
would be keeping him not extending him this
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season and then he leaves in free
agency for nothing. You just you can't
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let that happen again, after allowing
it to happen with Fred van Fleet,
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after minimally capitalizing on Kyle Lowry's departure
as well. And let's not to say
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like you already lost like the whole
quiet lender of stuff and like the members
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of the championship team. Siakam,
though, is an all NBA type player.
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He's made to all NBA teams.
The fact that people seemed miffed that
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he wanted his full boat max.
What are we doing here? Just unless
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you just think that these top fifteen
to thirty guys don't deserve maxes anymore.
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Okay, that's one stance. Seacom's
four year max, if he signs with
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his own team, would be one
hundred and ninety point eight million dollars about
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that's that's the extension he could sign
with Toronto right now as well. He
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can't sign an extension for that if
he goes to a new team, he
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would have to wait until free agency. The five year max, which he
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can only get from the Raptors or
the team that trades for him, is
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five years, two hundred and forty
seven point one million. Maybe that's the
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number that makes you uneasy. The
five years takes him through his age thirty
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four campaign. That's like, that's
about right, I would say. I
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mean, I think that the back
end that deal could be a little rough,
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but I would think the first three
to four years of any contract he
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signs will end up being fine.
His four year max if he just leaves
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the fret, Like if he leaves
the Raptors in free agency or another team
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in free agency, it's four years, about one hundred and eighty three point
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two million dollars. Those numbers could
go up depending on where the salary cap
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goes I'm paying SIATI. I would
give Siakam a four year max and probably
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not think too hard about it.
The way that he's kind of finding his
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spot to fill in in Toronto as
they've done things differently, as they've transitioned
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to more of Scottie Barnes and even
having a manual quickly there. If you're
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the Raptors and Pascal Siaka wants to
be there and you can get him the
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fifth year stuff I get. I
want to make clear I don't want Raptors
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stands in my mentions saying I watch
every Raptors game and this that, by
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the way, that's my least,
that's a pet peeve of mine. I'm
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op. I'm I feel like as
a podcast host and content creator, I'm
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very open to the fact that people
who root for a team know more about
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that team, or at least just
as much about that team than I do.
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I don't need you in my mentions
because I'm saying something about Team X
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and that it's not blatantly wrotch as
well. Actually, like my team hasn't
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been playing that well of late,
and so this doesn't count as a good
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victory for a team. Why that
just beat Team X? I just that
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stuff. Just my job is not
to know your team as well as you.
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My job is known the rest of
the league and if you want to
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do as good of a job as
me. And I'm going off on this
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rant here because I saw people calling
out certain other people where they need to
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get fired, and it's a lot. It happens a lot of the time
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where yeah, there are blowhards when
it comes to talking about the entire league
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or a bunch of different sports,
it's it's annoying. I get it,
638
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it's frustrating as a fan. You
need to the bar needs to move when
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you're talking about when you do and
I'm gonna just say it right here,
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when you do what Grant and I
do. I'm sorry that we don't know
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about the Charlotte Hornets rotation on the
second end of a back to back on
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a Wednesday in January or on as
keen into that. We need to know
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a general more idea of the Raptors, the way that they're the Raptors,
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the Hornets, the way that they're
playing in addition to their cap situations,
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the direction they're headed, what individual
players guys are doing. And yes,
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we need to watch the games.
We need to watch film and that is
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what Grant and I do. If
you're just going too well actually literally the
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smallest points, I'm open for discussion. But if you're gonna preface it,
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well, I watch every game.
I don't fucking care, honestly, don't
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fucking care. Go do what I
do that and do it better. If
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you're gonna take a sception, well
giving your opinion on the Excuse me as
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I'm choking in the middle of this
rant on the Washington Wizards while the other
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twenty nine teams in the league,
and be accurate in any way about what
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you're saying and thorough So please,
that's just that's gonna earn you an automatic
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mute, or just I'm gonna ignore
your comments if you start saying that.
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Just a pet peeve of mine.
So see, I get why Raptor stands
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to that point, and there have
been disagreements in discord, and I respect
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the hell of the people that think
you just need to trade them because something's
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off here. If that is the
case, yes, you need to trade
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them because you can't afford to lose
them. You can't afford to lose them
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for nothing. The real I would
do is the organizations. I'm looking to
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change up the five spot. Even
if you think we've seen Siakam play them
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five there, what can you Yaka
partls injured right now, that's the other
664
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thing. He's going to miss some
serious time at the moment, and so
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I'm fascinated to see how the Raptors
wind up playing while he's on the sideline
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with his left ankle issue and they
don't even have a timeline for his return.
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I'm not saying that they're gonna move
him at this deadline. I don't
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know necessarily where his contract would be
viewed, or how how well or favorably
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or disfavorably or be viewed around the
league, but that to me is the
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more palatable path forward, especially because
they've already prioritized the acquisition of players over
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picks, and a lot of these
teams that are interested in Siakam they're not
672
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going to have, especially if we
don't want to give up jos Walker for
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him, They're not going to have
actual players that can help you now,
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or even some of the ones that
will be available Jared Walker as a as
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an example, is he going to
help you now? The Warriors could probably
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be one where it's, oh,
we get a pick and then if we
677
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think Kaminga and Moody can help us
plus salary, okay, sure, But
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I just if you're telling me that
you can get Kaminga and Moody and a
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Warriors for Siakam, or you can
keep Siakam and then just look at moving
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Yaka Peerle, trying to get a
floor spacing big in there, or playing
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Siakam even more at the five as
time goes on, because you have Scottie
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Barnes and you have RJ. Barrett, maybe it's oh well, let's just
683
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try and get a bigger wing in
there. I like that a lot better,
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and I'll get into more of this
when we do their trade deadline preview.
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I just wouldn't rule out the Raptors
as under the radar buyers to where
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I think we've the ship has sailed
on them trying to consolidate, especially now
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if they don't have OG and you
can't aggregate a manual quickly or r J.
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Barrett. If they're they're not going
to be in on the I mean,
689
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the cost is apparently low, the
market is Barren. I would still
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I wouldn't hate zach Leen on this
team still you can. It's late the
691
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hell out of him defensively, even
without o Jiananobi there, I not would
692
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not be my favorite. Guess oh
we exactly in the books for forty plus
693
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million, then Siyakham, can you
just get another perimeter player or someone who's
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gonna where you're not, someone who
doesn't nudge up Siakam to the five necessarily,
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but is going to be better in
those minutes than a Yaka partle who
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can limit your spacing as useful as
Yaka Purdle is at times. That's just
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my stance on the Raptors right now. The caveat is just if you if
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you don't want to go five years
out for Siakam and that's the only way
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he's staying in Toronto, then yes, I get the hesitance. Do not
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wait this out. Then that's when
you need to move him. If it's
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he's looking at other teams, or
he's demanding the fifth year, even if
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it's some adjusted scale of a submax. But that's also something that could happen.
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Is okay, well we had to
go out on a fifth year,
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but maybe he gives up the player
option and it's not a total max.
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Maybe it's five years and two hundred
and twenty million because he's guaranteeing himself a
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you know, more money over the
longer hauld. You just save close to
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thirty million dollars depending on where the
cap winds up. I'm not saying he's
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a perfect player. He's just he's
been balling lately. There are times where
709
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it feels like he is disengaged.
Not that he's not invested in the game,
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but the Raptors before the trade,
after the trade, We're trying to
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figure out their pecking order. This
is an all NBA player, and you
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don't just move an All NBA player
who is more way more of an anomaly
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than og Annoby was in a vacuum. Pascal Siakam is a much much,
714
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much better player than og Anobi.
Og Anobi is much more scalable, and
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so it's in the eye of the
beholder. But I think I'm just I
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thought the Raptors need to move him
instead of og for fit purposes. I'm
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kind of not there anymore. He's
adapted even even better to Scottie Bonds the
718
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:49.119
season has gone on, and I
also just think like adding the second dynamic
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creer or third in a manuel quickly
has just opened things up in a way
720
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for Toronto that it wasn't before,
in a way that Dennis Shrewder was was
721
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never going to, in a way
that even Fred van Fleet didn't because he
722
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was hitt is pull up three pointers
the way that i Q can, and
723
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:06.280
the way that IQ gets into the
lane and leverages that float or in an
724
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:10.960
accurate fashion and has the has like
the there's the acceleration there and just has
725
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.559
like the acceleration to deceleration from him. It's just it's wiley, it's crafty,
726
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.039
and then if RJ. Barrett's gonna
play like this, of course makes
727
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your job a lot easier. He's
been great at finding he did this in
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00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.199
New York at times. We've been
great at finding pockets of space within finite
729
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:29.159
space of Toronto so far. So
that's where I'm at with Siakam. Team
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00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.599
should be interested in him, though, and we'll get into morecam destinations on
731
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the East Pod. But I'm just
the Raptors are weird because they're so far
732
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below five hundred that it makes you
feel and they just suffer too gutting losses.
733
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They you almost beat the Clippers.
There's the controversial loss because the rest
734
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with the Lakers the other night,
I believe that was that was Tuesday.
735
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.039
I feel so much better about this
team post Oljiannaobi trade, which I never
736
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.360
thought I would say there. And
yet it's just you have to look at
737
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:59.519
the reality of the NBA standing in
standings, and it's well, they might
738
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:02.079
be a play and it's is that
going to be enough? And so you
739
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:05.440
have to be cognizant of that as
well. Whereas are we about to pay
740
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iq Scott. He is extension eligible
this summer as well. We have our
741
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j in the books for you know, twenty seven plus, and then we're
742
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gonna give Siakam forty plus million dollars
a year forty five plus million dollars a
743
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year over the over the long haul
when it averages out, you have to
744
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:24.119
have that discussion. But I do
think, just as I think more avenues
745
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.920
are probably available to them now than
they were before, the ogana will be
746
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:31.559
trade, which again I didn't necessarily
think that that would be possible. I
747
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.920
would say for teams that should be
in to wrap this up very quickly.
748
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On Pascal Siakam, and I want
to If I'm the Raptors, I'm not
749
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trading him. That's just where if
he wants to be there, I would,
750
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:45.000
I'd stick with him. I think
the Pacers should probably be super aggressive.
751
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.480
I'm not opposed to the Grizzlies being
ultra aggressive with their picks package and
752
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:52.920
saying, hey, yeah, we're
gonna resign him and he'll help us this
753
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.719
season and we're just gonna see how
this works. I'm not I don't love
754
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:57.920
it, but I'm not opposed to
it. I would like to just see
755
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him in Golden State because I want
Steph to help. Steph is one of
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00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.719
my players of favorite players of all
time. Excuse me. So those are
757
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.119
the three teams. I don't hate
him in Dallas, I just don't for
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the Raptors, love the package that
you would be getting back in return,
759
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:13.760
and so I think those are my
three teams. Memphis is just so off
760
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.559
the wall that it would be Oh
Beckles Yakam and Memphis and John Morant's not
761
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:21.239
there, and just I would intrigue
me to see him play with Jared Jackson
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Juniors basically where I'm at there.
Hopefully you enjoyed this again, come back.
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in an addition to your five star
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that we've dipped below four point eight
and both for four point six on Spotify
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and we're back to up to four
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juice those numbers. Join our discord. When we do mail bags, that's
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mostly where I get the questions from. Unless I'm feeling bunky and willing to
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deal with the people who respond on
Twitter. I shouldn't say the people A
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lot of you talk to me on
Twitter. Just absolutely most of you who
775
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talk to me on Twitter absolutely awesome. But I don't send out listations on
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Twitter. Join our discord. The
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The socials are in the podcast,
YouTube description or on your screen, and
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I believe, I believe that's about
it. I want to shout out just
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any new listeners that we're getting.
It always warms my and all the kind
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words we get. We're grateful for
all your support. I appreciate every single
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one of you. And when we
have people who hit me on the side
782
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to say that they do appreciate the
job we do or that they like something
783
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that we do, I do look
at a lot of critical feedback and take
784
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it to heart. I probably read
too much into it at points, but
785
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:43.400
that's always valuable to have. I
will say, though, when we get
786
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nice messages, whether it's on discord, in the comments of YouTube in my
787
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dms on Twitter. Finding out that
there're still just new people finding this show
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after all this years. That's what
keeps Grant and Eye going. And so
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thank you, every single one of
you. And if you're a new listener,
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if you've just found us, whether
it's on Instagram, you found us
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through TikTok or shorts or YouTube,
just let me know, Just let let
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us know YouTube comments, join our
discord. It's always fun to hear that.
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Until next time, which will be
very soon, And as always,
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I leave with the shout out to
the one, the only, the indelible,
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the eminently not touchable. He can't
be touchable. It's not just because
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he's injured. It's because he's the
best player in the best prospect in the
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Basin's not a finished product just yet. Frank Healer