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Enjoy these back-to-back classic forbidden knowledge news episodes. Today I
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want to welcome Alex Cruz. He is currently writing a
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book about his incredible experiences with non-human entities and intelligences,
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as well as several abduction experiences.
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Alex, welcome. How are you doing? I'm doing excellent. Thanks, Chris,
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for having me on.
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Thanks so much for coming on. This is a great topic.
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The more I learn about others' contact or abduction experiences,
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the more questions I have. I still believe that the
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best way to learn and try to understand this phenomenon
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is through the experiences of folks like yourself that have
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had vivid memories of the experiences. So this is, like
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I said, one of my favorite topics. my perception on
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the phenomena is constantly shifting and changing based on the
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information and insights that I'm getting. So, like I said,
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this is the best way I think for us to
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learn about this. Now, before we get too deep into
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your experiences, just tell us a little bit about yourself
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and then we'll get into how it all started.
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Okay, sure. Um, I'm a 53 years old. I live
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in Colorado and, uh, I'm a father of three, a professional.
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I have my own business. And I'm happily married almost
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20 years now. And I've been pretty reluctant to come
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forward with these experiences, to be frank with you. I've
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only shared them with a handful of people up until
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the last five, maybe seven years. And I think it's
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the reason why that I'm coming forward with my story
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at this time. is I think because of the disclosure
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stuff that's starting to happen. I do find that there's
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a lot of disinformation out there and, you know, there
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is two sides to the story, especially when you look
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on social media, a lot of people, you know, you
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probably heard the story that, you know, aliens are demons
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or it's evil or it's all bad. And I think
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that's the main push behind me coming out and telling
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my story. Excellent.
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Well, let's, How did this all start for you? Let's
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start at the beginning.
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Well, the actual experience that kind of crystallized this whole
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thing for me was the second thing. I mean, I
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possibly and we can go into that later. I possibly
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had some experiences early on. I've had some supernatural things.
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I've had some, you know, ghost experiences. But I've also
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had some other I don't know if I would consider
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them demonic, but I've had some other experiences when I
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was real little. Um, and now I don't know if
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it is alien related. I have no clue, but, um,
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my first experience that kicked this all off. And to
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be frank with you, I was a very nuts and
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bolts type of guy. Um, growing up. In fact, I
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would say that by the time I was 15, I
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was a staunch atheist. Um, I was very much into
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the Darwinian, uh, concept of things. I was totally sold
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on that. I wasn't, I didn't, it wasn't raised in
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a particularly religious household, but we were exposed to the
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church and, things like that. But I remember coming to
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a really solid, you know, decision that that it wasn't real.
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And I mean, and, you know, I kind of lived
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my life that way. Not that I was an evil
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person by any means, but at the same time, I
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was kind of, you know, that there wasn't anything else
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but this, you know, the earth and creationism and stuff
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like that. So what happened was my first experience, I
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was in college. I was actually in my junior year.
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I was in, I went to school in Boulder, Colorado
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at CU Boulder. And I had just come home from
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a summer job, and I had a friend of mine
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who he had inherited a cabin that was up above
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Boulder in a little town called Eldora. It's actually a
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ski resort, but there's another mountain town below it called Nederland.
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It's up in the mountains. It's about 45 minutes west
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of Boulder. So I had come back to live with
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him for the last month of the summer. So we
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were staying up at this rustic cabin. It was pretty idyllic,
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you know, fishing every day, hiking. It was really awesome,
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to be frank. I loved it. It was just a
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great time. But about our third week in, I think
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we had maybe a week and a half left up
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at the cabin. We had an up-close sighting. And I'll
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go ahead. If you want, I can tell you some
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detail about that. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so we had fished.
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I remember the day really well. You know how memories
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can just become blurry and you don't remember that day.
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I remember everything so clear because of how monumental what happened.
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So We fished a perfect day and everything was normal.
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And the way that the mountain is situated is there's
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one road that comes in and out. You can't really,
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you know, have anyone come up there without seeing them
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because the mountain, if you look at it on a
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Google map where Aldora Mountain is, it's very isolated. And
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there's like, I mean, I don't know how many, but
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thousands of acres behind it where there's no trails. There
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are no you know, weighs in. I think there might
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be a fire. So anyway, just to preface what happened
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later on. So we had just finished eating dinner and
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we would usually retire out on the front porch, which
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overlooked a lake called Aldora Lake. And then the mountain
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sits right behind the lake. So we had sat out there,
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we were playing cards. And I want to preface this
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by saying we were completely sober. I think we may
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have drank in a beer, but we were completely sober.
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We weren't the type to you know, be getting wasted
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up there. We were, we were actually pretty, pretty straight
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like that. So we were probably, I don't know, maybe
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out there for about 30, 45 minutes and the valley
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started to fill up with fog, a very thick fog
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that you could probably, I mean, it actually looked theatrical. We,
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we started to comment, are we on like the set
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of a movie or something? Cause it just looked so thick. Um,
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so there was this very thick fog that filled up
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the valley and, um, At that point, we were just
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kind of remarking about the fog, but still, you know,
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playing the game. And we suddenly noticed a bright light
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at the top of the mountain. Now, you couldn't see it, obviously,
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through the fog. It was diffused. So you could just
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see a light. And it was very bright. It actually
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looked like, you know, some didn't look like a spotlight.
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It looked like a helicopter, like something that was very big.
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That's what we assumed it was at first. But we
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didn't hear any noise, so we thought that was odd.
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And then after a few moments, the lights started to
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descend down the mountain. So we were like, okay, what
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is this? Is it a four-wheel drive with, like, heavy
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spotlights on it, you know? This is in, let me
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just tell you, this was in 1994. So I was
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a junior in college at that time. And the light
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came down. And by that time, we both had stopped
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playing cards and stood up on the porch just to
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see what this was. We didn't understand what was going
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on because it came down in such a, like a
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smooth fashion. Like it didn't come down a mountain, you know,
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and it was odd to us. So as the light,
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it seemed to start approaching, we could feel or kind
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of more than hear, feel like a sub-level humming in
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our chest. And, um, we both stepped off the porch.
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There was a clearing below the porch and then the
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road below, and then a lake across the road. So
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if you can picture that we were standing on the
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clearing and, um, as the light approached the humming, the
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sub-level feeling in your chest got a little bit more intense. And, uh,
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it was about nine 30, maybe 10 PM at night.
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And all of the animals that were in the bushes
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started to flee the opposite direction. Um, I had birds
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fly past me. I had chipmunks bump into my legs.
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I had rabbits run past me. Yeah, it was actually
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quite a stir. They were flying the other way. And
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I actually was starting to get like a panic sense,
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but my friend seemed pretty fearless. So he started walking
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forward to see what this was. And at that moment,
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it pierced the fog and it came above the trees
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and it was a silver disc, you know, rotating. Silver
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disc with multicolored lights, just exactly what you think of
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a UFO. I immediately lost it. I think I had
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the biggest fear response possible. My friend, he walked forward
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even a few more steps. He seemed to be completely fearless. Now,
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this is the crucial weird part. I don't remember anything
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else after that. We came to, both of us were
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standing in the same space. However, the fog was gone.
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There was no fog anymore. It felt a bit colder.
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So I'm guessing maybe an hour or two had passed.
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I'm not sure. It just didn't seem like the same time.
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But even odder than that, Chris, we just walked back
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into the cabin and fell asleep. We didn't even discuss it.
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You know how many times I've heard such similar things
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where people have had an experience, they had this missing time,
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and afterwards it's like, they don't really even care and
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they're just tired and want to go to bed. That's
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pretty interesting right there.
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How do you sleep after that, right? Yeah, I mean,
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and I don't remember even having trouble. I think we
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both just crawled into our beds and passed out immediately.
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So the next morning, my buddy was waking up and
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he was packing his bag. And I knew at that
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point he wanted to go back down to Boulder. We
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were probably a week early. From going down and I
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didn't blame him. So I started packing my stuff too,
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but we did this all pretty much in silence. And
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in my head, I'm just going over what happened last night.
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I'm ruminating over it, but not saying anything. So halfway
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down the drive, just to ease my conscience and and
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put things at ease for myself i asked my friend
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i said hey i'll just refer to him as r
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always say i said hey art what did you see
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last night what happened i need to know what you
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saw and he basically mirrored what i saw exactly he
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didn't have any um deviations really. Um, except for that,
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he didn't want to talk about it much more after that.
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He seemed very reticent to speak about it. And we
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actually fell apart after that. We didn't really become, we
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kind of didn't be, we weren't as good friends. We
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were actually very good friends. We have taken many road trips.
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We've been friends for two years. We were housemates for
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a year before that. So it was something else.
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Very interesting. I've heard this before that after, uh, a
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person has a contact experience and they're there with someone
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else who was a very good friend of theirs, the
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relationship seems to just fall apart afterwards. And I've heard
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this maybe from three or four different abductees or contactees
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that after they have this experience, the other person they're
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with usually just doesn't want to talk about it and
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it causes them to just back away from everything, including
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the relationship they had with you. So that's interesting too, man.
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Yeah, absolutely. I've totally heard that before myself. And that's
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why each time I hear these experiences, I'm like, oh,
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there's what happened to me. You know, I checked that
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one off. But so, you know, that was it. We
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drove down. We kind of parted. We both had different
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places to live that fall. And what I did is
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I went down and I wrote the experience as I
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could remember it in my journal. I put down every
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single piece of it because it was very interesting to
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me and Up until that time, I did not really
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have any interest in UFOs. Of course, I was exposed
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to Star Trek, Star Wars, E.T. I was exposed to
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all that, but I didn't really give any opinion that
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it was real. I really did not. And I knew
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there was UFO stuff, but honestly, I didn't really have
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an opinion either way. I didn't disbelieve it or believe
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in it. It wasn't a subject of mine that I
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was interested in at all. Yeah. So... After this, I
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did become very interested in the subject. It actually was
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something that just was on my mind all the time.
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It was odd. So now I want to, if there's
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anything else you want to ask me about that, go ahead.
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I'm going to go on to the next experience.
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Yeah, before you do, I was just curious if you
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had any type of recall at all of what could
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have happened during that missing time. Any other memories that
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came through about that experience?
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Not a single bit, not one. And, and to be honest,
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I don't really want to know. You know, people have
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asked me, they're like, Oh, do you want to do some,
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you know, regression? If not, if not, I don't, I
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do not know. And I think that's because of what
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happened to me next. So, Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. So
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this was pretty weird, but so, I think I talked
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to you about this. So where this occurred was in
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a place called Humboldt County. It's in Northern California. It's
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right on the border of Oregon. It's really beautiful. It's
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basically Redwoods meets the ocean. It's gorgeous there. And what
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had happened was I had a couple of years between
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I had a really serious car accident. I had actually
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had a year of rehab. A lot of stuff happened
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in between that. that initial close sighting and then the
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next thing that happened. So I finally healed up. A
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friend of mine had purchased a pizza place up in
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a town called Blue Lake. It's right outside of a
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town called Arcata, which is a big college town up there.
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So it was pretty cool. And he just purchased it.
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He needed somebody to help him run it. And I
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thought it'd be a great, great opportunity for me to
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go up there because I love that area. I love
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the wilderness. So Camping is one of my favorite things
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to do. And so I moved up there with my
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dog and I was probably there for maybe three months
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at this time. And I had started to kind of
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have these little regular spots that I would camp at.
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And one of them was a place called Patrick Point.
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It's now been renamed to Sue Meg, I guess the
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name Patrick Point. was offensive to the Native Americans because
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I think the guy was known for killing a bunch
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of Native Americans. So they ended up changing it like
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a few years back. But if you look up Patrick Point,
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it still comes up. But anyway, that actually is like
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a state park. It's right off the ocean. It's gorgeous.
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It's beautiful. And I would camp there regularly, sometimes once
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a week. Every other week, probably my dog and I
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would go there. And I had a truck and I
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had probably, this was my third time camping there maybe.
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And I'd gotten to know the ranger who worked there.
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He actually lived on a little cabin and we became
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really good friends. He was probably a few years older
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than me and we had become really good friends. And
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on this day I had spent the night. I woke
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up in the morning. I had made coffee. The ranger
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came over, he was talking to me and it was not,
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there was like right where my campground campsite was, there
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was a, it's called a surfer's trail, but it goes
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right down to the beach. And I told him, I said, Hey,
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I want to take a quick run down to the beach.
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Would you mind watching my dog, you know, for a
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half hour while I go run? He's like, yeah, for sure.
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Cause he had a dog too. So my dog and
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his dog would play and I, you know, it was great.
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So I, you know, got my little walk room. I
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got my jacket. I like ran down the beach. I
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ran down to the beach and it was a, it
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was a beautiful day. I remember it was probably like 10,
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11 in the morning, 10 30, maybe 11, almost a
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clear sky with some wispy clouds. I got down to
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the beach. I think there was maybe two people on
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the beach. It was really empty. And so what the
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way the beach is, is it's just a big half
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moon beach type. And at the south end of it,
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there's these big jutting rocks that jut out onto the ocean. Now,
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let me preface this by telling you, I have heard several,
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not abduction, but close encounter experiences at the exact same
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place that I'm talking about. And they've been on podcasts.
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Several podcasts I've heard, like the confessionals, a few other
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people and they, they referenced this exact same spot. Um,
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so I think it might be a hotspot. Um, so anyway,
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I had hiked down and I don't know what drew
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me to, but these rocks that are jutting out onto
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the ocean, but I walked over to them and that
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it was very cool. Cause when you get on the
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rocks and you can actually see them, if you use
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Google map, like you can see them on there, there
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are these big rocks that come out onto the ocean
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and If you get on them, you can feel the
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vibration of the waves underneath. They feel really cool. It's like,
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I don't know. And I just got the inclination. It
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was warm. I just to lay down on them. So
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I laid back and I was looking up at the sky.
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And as I told you, there was, it was mostly
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a blue sky, but there was these low flying wispy
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clouds that were moving quickly overhead. I'm sure you've seen
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that type of cloud movement. And as I was staring
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at the clouds and, Um, I just kind of was
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just zoning out and, um, they started to go around
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a shape. Like I saw him going in a straight
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line in parts and I didn't know what I was seeing.
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I started to become a little bit, you know, like,
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am I, is this an optical illusion? I don't know
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what I'm looking at. And as I looked closer, I
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could see they were actually following a line around a gigantic,
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what looked like a diamond. And I mean, it threw
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me off because it looked like a mile long. I mean,
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it was the biggest thing you'd ever see. And then
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I could start to make out some parts of it,
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like little lights that were twinkling. And as that happened,
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I felt immediately a presence noticing me. It was, I
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can't tell you how it was very discernible. And as
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soon as that happened, a red beam, came out of
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this thing and hit me in the chest. And at
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that point, I couldn't breathe. I started to lose breath
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and panic. And I took, you know, this was something
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that like I thought was life or death. I didn't
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know what was going on. Obviously, I was shocked by
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the thing I was seeing, but also the feeling I
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was feeling. So anyway, as I took less, you know,
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I couldn't take a breath. I finally like it wasn't,
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I would say, blacked out. but I kind of got
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sucked out. I felt like a vacuum type sound and
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it seemed like a big commotion happened. And I've heard
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this by many abductees like this that have been taken
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this way. I was sucked out of my body and
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I came to onboard a ship. That's all I can say.
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I was in a room, a dimly lit room, and
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there was a presence near me. And basically they, they,
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proceeded to give me the lessons of my whole life.
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Now, was your awareness on this ship like your normal
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awareness or did it feel like dreamy or like you
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were somewhat in a drug state or something like that?
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So, yeah, this is the weird part. At first it did.
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At first it did. And, um, what I was told
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by these beings or what, you know, whoever, I will
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just refer them as they, them. I don't, they didn't
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give me any specification, but I, they did, They did
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tell me where they were from, which is bizarre because
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at that time I didn't know anything about this word
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or what it was, but now it's become pretty, pretty,
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you know, it's out there in the abduction. It's Arcturus
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is the star system. They were Arcturian. They told me
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that was where they're from, but that's, they don't identify
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with that anymore because what their job is to be here.
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This is what they do. They've been here before us.
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Their job is to watch over this system, I guess,
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is what they told me in a nutshell. But at
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the point that I started to lose my fear, I
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saw and experienced things in a clearer way than I
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do here. I don't know if that makes sense. It
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was clearer than my vision and my perception here. It
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was amazing. And I remember many, many details of it
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to this day with ultimate clarity.
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What did these Arcturians look like? How did they appear
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to you?
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Um, so this is the weird thing. They told me that, um, hello?
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Yeah, I'm here.
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Okay. I'm sorry. I was getting a phone call. I
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apologize for that. Um, so they told me that they
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didn't want to show themselves to me, but what I
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could tell later on is I think they were like,
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something that would scare me. They told me that they
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realized that I'd had contact before, and that I had
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a high fear response, and that it would probably mess
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up this experience if they were to show me that,
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show themselves to me at that time. They explained that
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to me. I know that sounds complicated, but they explained
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that to me in a snap of a second, because
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the telepathy, the way that works, it's so direct, it's
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so clear. And they basically explained that to me in
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two seconds that they didn't want to show themselves to
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me if I wanted to see them. And I kind
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of moved on from the subject because I was so
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enthralled by the environment that I was in. And the
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fact that I didn't have a body, I'm not going
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to say orgasmic, but it's almost ecstatic to not have
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a body. It felt like you were eyeballs kind of
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floating around. But to not have the human body is
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so liberating. It is unreal. And the comfort that you
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feel is amazing. So I don't know if they were
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putting it on me, but I felt like amazingly comfortable
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and good, you know, the whole time. And I just
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wanted to experience what I was experiencing. Totally. And there
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was a whole sequence to things. So the first thing
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that they started telling me once I got over asking,
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who are you? Where am I? You know, and stuff
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like that. They just started giving me a lesson about grace. immediately.
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They just started telling me everything they could about the
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greys and the species of greys and what they are,
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where they're from, why they're here. And the reason why
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is because they said, I have experience with the greys,
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that the greys were in the ship that came to
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the cabin. They said that they are involved in my
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family's life. And I can tell you later on some
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experiences my father's had when he was young that, you know,
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we don't have any direct, you know, evidence, but I
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guess I have some experience with them. So they wanted
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me to know what it was, you know, they, they,
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they said that this, they found that it was an
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opportunity to educate me. And then I says, well, why me?
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You know, why are you pulling me up because of this?
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Just because of this? They said, no, actually you're now
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I I'm going to get into a lot of crazy
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stuff here and I I'm just going to be open
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with you. Okay. They told me that I had a
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past life that was higher dimensional. They said they, I
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was part of a colony that was rescued from a
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planet that was about to ascend to some higher dimension
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that was beyond earth. You know, we were already in
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a peaceful state and our planet was about to be
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hit by some, some toxic cosmic dust that from an
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exploding supernova or something. And they rescued my race and
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put us on some water planet as a refuge while
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they got some planet ready for us. I don't know.
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It was very convoluted. They told me the details. And
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they said that, I was a part of a higher
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dimensional race that decided to come back to Earth, which
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I guess many are. I guess a lot of people
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are here that are from higher dimensionals to help with
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what's going to happen on Earth.
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Now, what did they tell you about the grays and
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the nature of their contact and what they wanted?
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So what they told me is that this is the
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part that I want to clear up for a lot
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of people. So they did tell me that there are
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one main type that have been abducting people since the
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late 40s, early 50s. But they said there's different types.
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They said there's other ones. They're not just this particular one.
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They said there's several types of the gray type species.
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And what this symbolizes, they said, this type of species
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is basically an evolutionary path that went wrong. These people are,
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or these beings are trying to correct their DNA pattern. Now,
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what happened with their world, I guess they're related to humans.
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You know, they have a relation to us. I guess
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they were very similar to us in evolution. And they
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had gone down the wrong path. Obviously, they destroyed their environment.
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They evolved underground for a long period of time, became
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very highly technological, highly intellectual. However, they lack spirit. They
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cannot process sunlight, generally. They cannot reproduce naturally. So they
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have actually... did figure out quantum technology. They can get
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off planet, they can get through space, but they're kind
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of at a dead end at this point. So they
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need us to salvage themselves. And I guess us detonating
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atom bombs in the 40s is what they told me
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in having nuclear bombs at our ready was probably the
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reason and the impetus for them to be here. They
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were like, they wouldn't normally allow this type of thing
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But because we seem to be going down the wrong path,
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they're allowing it because it's possibly a win-win where they
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can salvage our genetic code as well.
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Very interesting.
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Now, what they told me about these grays is that
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they are neutral. They don't really have a positive or negative. Now,
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00:26:10.950 --> 00:26:13.509
I know there's a lot of negativity. Some people, you know,
476
00:26:13.549 --> 00:26:16.410
this is a nightmare to them. But what I've been told, now,
477
00:26:16.450 --> 00:26:21.140
this is more craziness. They told me that there are
478
00:26:21.299 --> 00:26:24.279
aliens that we think are aliens, but they're from this system.
479
00:26:24.819 --> 00:26:28.980
They're from Earth. They're from this system. Maybe Venus. I'm
480
00:26:29.019 --> 00:26:31.359
not sure. They didn't give me details like that. But
481
00:26:31.380 --> 00:26:34.930
they did show me a reptilian-type race. They showed me
482
00:26:35.009 --> 00:26:39.630
that this reptilian race has back-engineered these greys. Now, oh, yeah,
483
00:26:39.710 --> 00:26:42.750
this is another detail that I've heard maybe a little
484
00:26:42.769 --> 00:26:45.849
bit of. So what they told me is that the greys,
485
00:26:46.170 --> 00:26:49.839
the true greys, are reptilians. not the ones that are
486
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.480
seen in your bedroom or that are in people's memories.
487
00:26:52.940 --> 00:26:57.460
They said those grays are bioengineered. They are actually, they
488
00:26:57.579 --> 00:27:02.180
are sentient living things, but they've been created by this higher, taller,
489
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:06.559
wrinkly type gray to be drones for them because they
490
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:09.829
cannot exist in this environment very well. So they use
491
00:27:09.869 --> 00:27:12.109
them as avatars when they come down here and do
492
00:27:12.150 --> 00:27:17.769
their collections. So they're actually an engineer type of a being.
493
00:27:18.529 --> 00:27:21.470
And they told me that these gray beings that are
494
00:27:21.549 --> 00:27:26.369
engineered have been back-engineered by the reptilians. So, and our government,
495
00:27:26.470 --> 00:27:29.559
I guess. I guess they're in cohorts with them in
496
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:33.960
these underground bases. And they've actually recreated these species of
497
00:27:33.980 --> 00:27:36.619
these grays that they use, too.
498
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.390
Now, this is all the same experience where you're on
499
00:27:42.430 --> 00:27:44.750
the ship and they're giving you all this information, right?
500
00:27:45.309 --> 00:27:47.210
Yeah, and this was the first part of it. It
501
00:27:47.230 --> 00:27:50.529
was very... It was very detailed. Like I said, they
502
00:27:50.569 --> 00:27:53.450
gave me, and they actually, so when they were telling
503
00:27:53.470 --> 00:27:55.690
me things, I was in the scene. I was in
504
00:27:55.730 --> 00:28:01.019
the scene, Chris, 360 degree. Like, it was like, I
505
00:28:01.059 --> 00:28:03.099
guess the holodeck is all I can, you know, have
506
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.680
you heard of the holodeck from Star Trek? Yeah, it's
507
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:08.359
similar to that, I guess. You know, you're in the scene.
508
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.460
That's all I can say. When they showed me the
509
00:28:10.500 --> 00:28:13.619
planet of the greys, it was like a red sky
510
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.920
with smoke everywhere. You know, they had destroyed their planet.
511
00:28:17.859 --> 00:28:19.660
They showed me that they had a similar thing where
512
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:25.839
their elites had built these large bases underground after they had,
513
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.349
you know, basically destroyed the population in themselves. And luckily
514
00:28:30.390 --> 00:28:32.730
they were able to survive it. You know, they had
515
00:28:32.809 --> 00:28:35.210
enough that they were able to survive it. And, you know,
516
00:28:35.250 --> 00:28:38.549
they realized that they did the wrong thing, that everything
517
00:28:38.569 --> 00:28:43.839
they did was wrong. And yeah, so they showed me everything,
518
00:28:44.339 --> 00:28:48.230
you know, in extreme detail and, I guess what they
519
00:28:48.309 --> 00:28:50.549
wanted me to know for certain about this is that
520
00:28:50.589 --> 00:28:56.910
there are, I guess, a nefarious race that's here. And
521
00:28:56.950 --> 00:29:02.319
they said that they're masquerading as from outside of space,
522
00:29:02.380 --> 00:29:05.319
but they're not. They're from here. They've been here all
523
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:06.619
the time, a long time.
524
00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:12.160
Now, out of all your experiences, did you ever have
525
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:18.890
any contact– Or an experience where you noticed humanoids, not
526
00:29:18.950 --> 00:29:24.400
necessarily just humanoids, but humans in uniform, maybe military personnel
527
00:29:24.420 --> 00:29:27.700
or some kind of medical personnel that looked very human
528
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:28.859
in your experience?
529
00:29:30.099 --> 00:29:33.029
No, but I haven't personally, but on the ship they
530
00:29:33.069 --> 00:29:36.289
did show me a race that looks like, I guess,
531
00:29:36.349 --> 00:29:40.460
what you would call the Nordic race. And they showed this... after.
532
00:29:40.980 --> 00:29:43.700
So this is when they gave me the whole understanding.
533
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:45.680
They gave me a little bit of a lesson. They
534
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.700
said that now this is going to probably shock people
535
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.180
because this is the part that I do not hear
536
00:29:51.380 --> 00:29:54.589
at all. And I heard Nancy say this. Now, there
537
00:29:54.660 --> 00:29:56.829
are no such thing as evil aliens, they told me.
538
00:29:57.109 --> 00:30:00.180
They said they wouldn't be allowed to. to go outside
539
00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:02.789
of their solar system if they were evil so the
540
00:30:02.890 --> 00:30:07.450
idea of this galactic you know space faring borg type
541
00:30:07.529 --> 00:30:10.750
race that goes in and destroys worlds is complete nonsense
542
00:30:11.650 --> 00:30:14.039
at least from what they told me they said that
543
00:30:14.130 --> 00:30:16.940
there is a there is nothing higher than them at
544
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.440
this point right now over here so they would be
545
00:30:19.539 --> 00:30:24.099
considered angelic i guess and they said that they wouldn't
546
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.400
If a race has those type of intentions, they wouldn't
547
00:30:27.460 --> 00:30:30.720
be allowed the quantum leap outside of their solar system.
548
00:30:31.539 --> 00:30:34.480
So they said there is that element here, but they're
549
00:30:34.500 --> 00:30:37.740
from here. They're not from outside. And that's why we
550
00:30:37.779 --> 00:30:41.609
have evil things going on. But that's what they told me.
551
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:43.740
They said it wouldn't be allowed. It would not be
552
00:30:43.940 --> 00:30:47.539
allowed to leave a system. and like just be warfaring
553
00:30:47.740 --> 00:30:48.720
and evil and.
554
00:30:48.819 --> 00:30:52.549
Now this nefarious race is this reptilians is it like
555
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:54.670
the nordics or is it something else.
556
00:30:54.809 --> 00:30:57.029
No no no the nordics they and this is where
557
00:30:57.190 --> 00:30:59.250
it gets to this they told me that the nordics
558
00:30:59.329 --> 00:31:01.809
were allowed to come here they're from the pleiades i
559
00:31:01.829 --> 00:31:05.230
guess and i guess and and they told me this
560
00:31:05.299 --> 00:31:08.700
like long before i discovered all these abduction experiences because
561
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.599
you know this has been obviously you know backed up
562
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.509
by a lot of people But the Pleiadians were allowed
563
00:31:14.549 --> 00:31:17.049
to come here and interact even a little more with
564
00:31:17.130 --> 00:31:20.130
us because they're, I guess, very closely related to humans,
565
00:31:20.490 --> 00:31:23.630
but they're already on the verge of ascension. So they've
566
00:31:23.650 --> 00:31:27.059
already figured out peace and war, and they don't have sickness.
567
00:31:27.099 --> 00:31:30.440
They lived out hundreds of years. You know, they've already
568
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.259
figured this stuff out, which is what I guess we're
569
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.960
supposed to be trying to figure out, you know. Without that,
570
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.119
we're not going to do anything. So, you know, because
571
00:31:39.140 --> 00:31:42.220
we're so backward, they've let these people come in and
572
00:31:42.740 --> 00:31:45.519
These other races come in and try and assist. But
573
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.160
the Pleiadians are from outside, but they've been allowed in
574
00:31:48.220 --> 00:31:53.170
because they're peaceful. So, yeah, they are real. They showed
575
00:31:53.190 --> 00:31:56.109
me them. They showed me their ships. It was a
576
00:31:56.390 --> 00:31:59.750
very compacted thing that they showed me. And this is
577
00:31:59.769 --> 00:32:01.690
just the beginning. They showed me a lot of stuff.
578
00:32:04.410 --> 00:32:06.180
One of the things they showed me, too, that if
579
00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:08.000
you want, I can tell you about is they showed me.
580
00:32:08.890 --> 00:32:11.700
These gigantic. So one thing I did. So it was
581
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:14.079
weird because as they were showing me things, I'd have
582
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:15.819
questions that would pop up in my head and they
583
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:19.680
would just answer it immediately. So one of the questions
584
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.079
that I had and they kind of just digressed after
585
00:32:22.660 --> 00:32:25.200
showing me the Greys and the Pleiadians and talking about
586
00:32:25.220 --> 00:32:28.420
the underground reptilians and the evil government. They did tell
587
00:32:28.460 --> 00:32:31.309
me that our government is not good and that it's
588
00:32:31.390 --> 00:32:33.369
up to us to take over. It's up to us
589
00:32:33.410 --> 00:32:36.250
to rise up. And they can't help us. You know,
590
00:32:36.269 --> 00:32:38.170
they said, and I, they were like, there's no way
591
00:32:38.190 --> 00:32:40.730
we can help you. Cause why would we help, help you?
592
00:32:41.009 --> 00:32:43.150
It would just handicap you. You know, we don't want
593
00:32:43.349 --> 00:32:45.730
you to be able to cross over handicapped is what
594
00:32:45.779 --> 00:32:50.059
they said, you know? All right. So if you can't
595
00:32:50.099 --> 00:32:52.380
figure this out for yourself, then you're not worth the trouble.
596
00:32:52.619 --> 00:32:56.130
You know, we'll just start over. That's they've, they've done it.
597
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.559
They're worth, they, they understand the risk and they, they, they're,
598
00:32:58.700 --> 00:33:01.079
they're pretty open to that too.
599
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:07.089
Can they tell you anything about, the malevolent agendas from
600
00:33:07.650 --> 00:33:11.569
our high level elites and military industrial complex are they
601
00:33:11.670 --> 00:33:14.599
in cahoots with some of these negative entities did they
602
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.359
give you any information about that.
603
00:33:17.460 --> 00:33:20.500
They did it wasn't extremely detailed but they did say
604
00:33:20.539 --> 00:33:25.240
that they do they do i guess siphon energy i
605
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:28.460
guess there's some kind of like cannibal not cannibal because
606
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.599
they're not part of us but I guess there is
607
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.880
some kind of like human trafficking thing. And they were
608
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.589
telling me about that. This is in 1996, you know,
609
00:33:36.329 --> 00:33:39.529
and it's kind of came full circle in the past
610
00:33:39.589 --> 00:33:42.970
few years, obviously. And, you know, just hearing all the
611
00:33:43.009 --> 00:33:46.210
stuff that's coming out with the David Grush, you know,
612
00:33:46.230 --> 00:33:51.019
hearings and his testimony. I just think I need to
613
00:33:51.230 --> 00:33:54.900
at least say what I know, you know, particularly, and,
614
00:33:55.059 --> 00:33:57.299
you know, it's just my experience, but at the same time,
615
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.789
a lot of it has been corroborated. Like, to a
616
00:34:00.809 --> 00:34:03.559
T and one of the things they did want me
617
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:05.299
to know is that, you know, they are going to
618
00:34:05.339 --> 00:34:08.000
try to pull a deception. Like this is some threat
619
00:34:08.059 --> 00:34:11.679
from outside and that aliens are evil, you know? And
620
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.039
that's what I'm coming to tell you is that they're
621
00:34:14.059 --> 00:34:17.860
not aliens. They're actually from here there. I don't know
622
00:34:17.909 --> 00:34:19.849
their whole story. It could have been, they evolved on
623
00:34:19.889 --> 00:34:23.110
being as Mars. I don't know, lived underground for a
624
00:34:23.130 --> 00:34:26.070
long time, but they are basically, I guess, running things
625
00:34:26.110 --> 00:34:28.530
from behind the show, you know, like behind the curtains.
626
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:34.889
I guess there's vast under ocean bases and underground both.
627
00:34:37.010 --> 00:34:39.849
And that's pretty much where they operate out of. You know,
628
00:34:40.030 --> 00:34:42.730
I wasn't given any details like, yes, they can shape shift,
629
00:34:42.789 --> 00:34:46.690
et cetera, et cetera. But I did. I was told, too,
630
00:34:46.730 --> 00:34:49.309
that there are good reptilians, not the ones that are
631
00:34:49.349 --> 00:34:52.000
from here. But there are some reptilians that have been
632
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:56.809
allowed to visit that are actually positive. So. And I
633
00:34:56.849 --> 00:35:00.030
have actually more of a personal story to that, that
634
00:35:00.050 --> 00:35:02.010
I can tell you later that they gave me after
635
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.260
kind of at the end of my, my thing. So
636
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.599
what I do want to tell you though, is can
637
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.400
I just finish and I'll go more into the, what,
638
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.960
what they told me, but I do want to wrap
639
00:35:14.059 --> 00:35:17.860
up what happened on the rock. So what happened was
640
00:35:18.539 --> 00:35:20.380
I was laying there obviously, and I had this whole
641
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:24.630
experience and Now, what happened? Now, this is how this
642
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:28.980
is being corroborated with the ranger. So, the ranger, I guess,
643
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:33.380
had been up at the campground waiting for me, and
644
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.030
I hadn't shown up, and it was already over an hour,
645
00:35:36.110 --> 00:35:37.969
he said. He said it already had just been about
646
00:35:38.010 --> 00:35:39.469
an hour and 10 minutes. I told him I'd be
647
00:35:39.530 --> 00:35:43.110
gone about 30 minutes. So, they said the dogs were
648
00:35:43.130 --> 00:35:45.710
getting restless. He thought he'd just take a walk down
649
00:35:45.780 --> 00:35:48.760
and check on me. So, he Hiked down the path.
650
00:35:49.019 --> 00:35:50.840
He went down to the beach and he said the dogs,
651
00:35:50.940 --> 00:35:53.219
both dogs ran right to the south end of the
652
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.559
beach where I was laying. And because I was lying flat,
653
00:35:56.659 --> 00:35:59.179
he didn't see me initially. He said he just followed
654
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.539
the dogs over there. And he said they both just
655
00:36:01.590 --> 00:36:03.469
sat in the sand. It was odd for him. They
656
00:36:03.510 --> 00:36:05.860
just both sat in the sand. And when he walked
657
00:36:05.949 --> 00:36:09.230
up to me, he then started to notice that I
658
00:36:09.269 --> 00:36:12.409
was laying there. But he said the most oddest thing
659
00:36:13.210 --> 00:36:16.750
was that I was surrounded by seagulls. like a circle
660
00:36:16.789 --> 00:36:18.809
of seagulls, a semicircle of seagulls.
661
00:36:19.630 --> 00:36:20.170
Wow.
662
00:36:20.289 --> 00:36:23.230
Now, I obviously did not see this, but when the
663
00:36:23.269 --> 00:36:26.690
experience was over, I came to, and I did see
664
00:36:26.829 --> 00:36:30.840
birds flying away. I remember just hearing wings flying. He
665
00:36:30.889 --> 00:36:33.280
told me that. So, but no, now this is the weird,
666
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:36.440
I'm sorry, I keep leaving out little details. I apologize.
667
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.559
I'm a little bit nervous. But he walked up, he
668
00:36:39.619 --> 00:36:42.739
tried to walk up to me while this, he first thought, wow,
669
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.000
that's weird. What are these seagulls doing laying around him?
670
00:36:45.750 --> 00:36:47.789
He walked up to me. He said the dogs didn't
671
00:36:48.050 --> 00:36:50.630
follow him. They stood in the sand behind. He said
672
00:36:50.670 --> 00:36:52.690
when he walked up to me, he reached out to
673
00:36:52.710 --> 00:36:55.300
try to just touch my shoulder, and he got a
674
00:36:55.469 --> 00:37:00.760
shock and got pushed back. Yeah, he said he got
675
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:02.840
a shock to his hand, and he was pushed back.
676
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:04.900
He said he was a bit scared by that. He
677
00:37:04.940 --> 00:37:06.840
didn't know what to think of it. So he just
678
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:08.679
went and sat down by the dogs, and he said
679
00:37:08.699 --> 00:37:12.039
within maybe two to three minutes, I woke up. Wow.
680
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:13.480
And the seagulls flew away.
681
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:18.159
Did you immediately have recall of what happened? Immediately.
682
00:37:18.340 --> 00:37:20.329
I had a recall of every single bit of it.
683
00:37:20.820 --> 00:37:22.449
And then the weird thing is a lot of it
684
00:37:22.489 --> 00:37:25.230
has unfolded too, over the years too, like just in
685
00:37:25.269 --> 00:37:29.550
different pieces. But, um, I did have immediately recall. And
686
00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:33.110
like I told you, the part about the Grays and
687
00:37:33.130 --> 00:37:35.989
the Pleiadians and the government, that was the very beginning
688
00:37:36.050 --> 00:37:38.190
of it. There was so much more that they showed me.
689
00:37:38.230 --> 00:37:41.679
They showed me a past life in detail. They showed me.
690
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.480
So one of the questions that I did have for
691
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.519
them was, what happens after this? Like, what's above this?
692
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:51.440
And is that you guys? And they were like, no, no, no, no.
693
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.860
They're like, the way we can explain it to you
694
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.349
is that you and I, they obviously know, you know,
695
00:37:57.409 --> 00:38:00.389
what terms we use. So they're trying to communicate it
696
00:38:00.409 --> 00:38:02.070
to me and things that I can understand. They said,
697
00:38:02.550 --> 00:38:05.530
think of it like this. You humans here on Earth
698
00:38:05.590 --> 00:38:08.849
are in kindergarten. We are seniors. So we haven't graduated
699
00:38:08.909 --> 00:38:11.880
yet either. We're at the top level, though. You know,
700
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.449
we're about to move forward. But we're that's that's our
701
00:38:15.469 --> 00:38:21.010
relation to you, basically. And I was like, OK, so well,
702
00:38:21.030 --> 00:38:23.070
then what's like above this? You know, I just kind
703
00:38:23.090 --> 00:38:25.929
of like what's the level above this? And they immediately
704
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:31.579
put me on board this ship that was I at
705
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:35.570
first I thought I was on a gigantic mall. It
706
00:38:35.650 --> 00:38:39.030
looked like a mall mixed with the most modern museum
707
00:38:39.070 --> 00:38:41.269
you've ever seen in your life, but with an open
708
00:38:41.309 --> 00:38:44.829
sky above it. And as I looked at it, it
709
00:38:44.869 --> 00:38:47.309
was like a, I don't know, it was just beautiful
710
00:38:47.780 --> 00:38:51.019
and I could see people on it. And at one
711
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:52.800
point I was above it and then I was standing
712
00:38:52.900 --> 00:38:55.579
on it. And then they just allowed me to explore
713
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.219
the ship. And as I looked over a banister, this
714
00:38:59.300 --> 00:39:01.920
is gonna, Chris, I'm gonna tell you, I don't know
715
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:04.610
how to explain this, but I looked over the banister
716
00:39:04.630 --> 00:39:09.099
and And I saw a forest and mountains as far
717
00:39:09.139 --> 00:39:10.980
as I can see in the center of the ship
718
00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:15.900
with clouds and birds. And I could see it was
719
00:39:16.699 --> 00:39:19.070
probably maybe a thousand foot drop from the side of
720
00:39:19.090 --> 00:39:23.329
the banister down to the floor of the forest. So
721
00:39:23.449 --> 00:39:27.630
it was this massive ship, I guess, that's floating out
722
00:39:27.690 --> 00:39:30.360
in space with a forest in the center. of it
723
00:39:31.019 --> 00:39:34.000
and you could see like sunlight was filtering through the
724
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:38.460
middle like it would on a planet wow it was
725
00:39:38.860 --> 00:39:41.710
massive and um i just.
726
00:39:41.619 --> 00:39:45.730
Have to ask this experience yeah yeah you were definitely
727
00:39:45.829 --> 00:39:49.550
aware that this was much different than just a normal
728
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:50.920
dream state.
729
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:56.099
Right 100 yeah it was because of uh uh it
730
00:39:56.139 --> 00:39:59.039
was the the vision that i had was so clear
731
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:03.199
and i i've heard this from other contactees it's like
732
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.570
it's a different and i they told me it's because
733
00:40:05.610 --> 00:40:08.050
of the dimensional shift i wasn't in my body so
734
00:40:08.110 --> 00:40:11.469
i was shifted up to another dimension and in that
735
00:40:11.530 --> 00:40:13.929
dimension I don't know how to say it. The colors
736
00:40:13.989 --> 00:40:18.320
are more brighter. There's everything is clearer. And then there
737
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:21.039
is an experience that I had, which might explain this.
738
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.420
And I think this is wise because when you don't
739
00:40:24.500 --> 00:40:27.800
have your body in that dimension, you can move at
740
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:31.360
the speed of light. Like you can think and be there.
741
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.449
And I was experiencing this when they were showing me things,
742
00:40:34.469 --> 00:40:36.989
they showed me a past life. They showed me this
743
00:40:37.070 --> 00:40:39.300
ship that I was on and they, and, when I
744
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:41.460
was on the ship, they kind of let me feel
745
00:40:41.500 --> 00:40:44.099
what it was feel like in that dimension. And it it's,
746
00:40:44.500 --> 00:40:48.119
they don't have sickness that that's all figured out, you know,
747
00:40:48.179 --> 00:40:50.840
they don't have war. So I asked them, what's the,
748
00:40:51.130 --> 00:40:52.610
then what do you do here? Is it just like,
749
00:40:53.050 --> 00:40:54.849
you know, as a utopia? And they said, no, no, no,
750
00:40:54.889 --> 00:40:57.670
there's other conflicts here, but it's different than what you're
751
00:40:57.690 --> 00:41:01.219
experiencing down there. They don't have that duality of, you know,
752
00:41:01.260 --> 00:41:03.500
there is some of that here. And I guess I was,
753
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:06.840
and I don't, I hesitate to say fourth dimension, fifth dimension,
754
00:41:06.860 --> 00:41:11.280
but I'm assuming fifth dimension, you know, maybe six. And, um,
755
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.420
I felt, uh, what it might feel like there, um,
756
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.239
you know, not having to worry about evil things and
757
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:22.010
sickness and stuff. Um, but I guess this was the
758
00:41:22.050 --> 00:41:25.349
next level. Um, and it was this, I guess the
759
00:41:25.449 --> 00:41:29.789
ship docked sometimes, but it's mostly, you know, it's controlled.
760
00:41:29.849 --> 00:41:34.460
Like you don't worry about planetary anything, you know what
761
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.860
I mean? Um, you don't worry about anything. They don't
762
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:39.539
have that to worry about.
763
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:46.110
Now, after this experience ended, was there a long period
764
00:41:46.130 --> 00:41:48.309
of time before you experienced anything else?
765
00:41:50.630 --> 00:41:55.059
Um, actually after this, I, I, you're, oh, you mean
766
00:41:55.179 --> 00:41:59.179
after this experience, I, um, So yeah, I'll go into
767
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:01.860
the next thing. So I did it for a long time.
768
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:03.739
In fact, what they told me is, this is the
769
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.710
weird part, is I did experience a few small things.
770
00:42:07.409 --> 00:42:10.369
And they told me that I had, one other reason
771
00:42:10.409 --> 00:42:12.409
why they had contacted me is they said that I
772
00:42:12.469 --> 00:42:16.050
had a deep connection with a reptilian race that was
773
00:42:16.110 --> 00:42:20.969
from another star system. And they showed me it was
774
00:42:21.010 --> 00:42:24.989
an albino reptilian race. They were all about 70 foot tall.
775
00:42:25.210 --> 00:42:29.320
They looked like bodybuilders. And I guess they were there here.
776
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:32.360
There's a small contingent of them here on Earth. And
777
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:34.900
they're in, I guess, a high, high dimension. So they
778
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.840
usually appear translucent to anybody that could see them. And
779
00:42:40.340 --> 00:42:42.300
I guess I have one that's with me pretty much
780
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.019
all the time or I can consult with all the time.
781
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:48.500
And I've pretty much been experiencing that being for a
782
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:51.559
while now. Now, the weird thing about this is I've
783
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.590
kept that completely to myself. I don't want to sound
784
00:42:53.610 --> 00:42:56.420
like a complete nut. You know, saying I have this
785
00:42:56.760 --> 00:43:00.280
eight foot tall albino reptilian that I communicate with. But
786
00:43:01.550 --> 00:43:04.929
what happened later on is I found a YouTube channel
787
00:43:04.969 --> 00:43:06.869
last year called Canadian Awareness.
788
00:43:07.369 --> 00:43:08.789
Yeah, I've had Anthony on.
789
00:43:10.110 --> 00:43:14.949
So Anthony has a video about the Taurian reptilians and
790
00:43:15.030 --> 00:43:19.510
he explains them in detail completely to a T. He
791
00:43:19.550 --> 00:43:23.559
says they're white, they're shinny. They are about eight foot
792
00:43:23.579 --> 00:43:27.659
tall and that not many people interact with them. And
793
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:29.969
they told me that's pretty much what's been with me
794
00:43:30.030 --> 00:43:33.429
since I was a child. And it's been given to
795
00:43:33.469 --> 00:43:35.909
me because of, I guess, the bloodline that my father's
796
00:43:35.929 --> 00:43:39.050
a part of. Right.
797
00:43:39.070 --> 00:43:44.800
Now, you said that your father also had experiences with non-humans?
798
00:43:45.820 --> 00:43:51.949
Yes, he did. And he's had several supernatural, but I,
799
00:43:52.030 --> 00:43:53.969
if you want, I can tell you, there's an experience
800
00:43:54.010 --> 00:43:57.929
that he's had that actually mirrors my second wife's to
801
00:43:58.010 --> 00:44:01.480
a T, um, which is very weird. And I'll just,
802
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.280
I'll tell them briefly. So my dad was coming home
803
00:44:04.340 --> 00:44:08.699
from his girlfriend's house. This is in 1950s, like middle 1950s. Um,
804
00:44:08.739 --> 00:44:12.800
he's from rural Southern Colorado. Um, he was driving down from, uh,
805
00:44:13.690 --> 00:44:18.730
a town called, um, Alamosa to San Luis. And, um,
806
00:44:19.710 --> 00:44:21.710
You've probably heard of the San Luis Valley. Lots of
807
00:44:21.809 --> 00:44:26.010
UFOs down there. And he basically was driving home from
808
00:44:26.050 --> 00:44:28.690
his girlfriend's house, 10 o'clock at night. A big light
809
00:44:28.889 --> 00:44:31.179
was behind him, thought it was a truck or trailer.
810
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:33.679
It approached at a high rate of speed, but then
811
00:44:33.699 --> 00:44:37.199
it soon had no sound, overtook his car, floated on
812
00:44:37.260 --> 00:44:42.280
top of it. His cabin was flooded with lights. And
813
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:44.719
then next thing you knew, he was pulling into his driveway.
814
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.320
And he has complete missing time, doesn't remember anything. He
815
00:44:49.500 --> 00:44:51.619
has one where he saw a little man out in
816
00:44:51.659 --> 00:44:54.500
the forest, had missing time, was back in his bed,
817
00:44:54.539 --> 00:44:56.139
and he didn't know how he got to his room.
818
00:44:57.099 --> 00:45:00.050
That was when he was little. And then my wife,
819
00:45:00.130 --> 00:45:04.369
my second wife, has the almost exact experience with the
820
00:45:04.409 --> 00:45:06.750
light on the road. Her and her friend were coming
821
00:45:06.809 --> 00:45:09.070
back from, this is in the late 90s, they were
822
00:45:09.090 --> 00:45:12.219
coming back from a rave outside of Denver in Louisville.
823
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.039
They were driving back at night down a rural road
824
00:45:16.099 --> 00:45:20.039
back into Denver. No cars on the road. They then
825
00:45:20.099 --> 00:45:22.460
saw a light just light up on the field next
826
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:25.739
to them, like pacing their car. And then it basically
827
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:28.869
just came across the field, went on top of their car,
828
00:45:29.050 --> 00:45:32.110
filled the car with light. And then next thing you know,
829
00:45:32.150 --> 00:45:34.849
she said they were driving down the street to her
830
00:45:34.889 --> 00:45:37.769
friend's house to drop him off. She didn't have any
831
00:45:37.829 --> 00:45:41.190
memory of it. And she's seen owls all her life
832
00:45:41.269 --> 00:45:43.349
outside of her bedroom, too, which I guess there's some
833
00:45:43.389 --> 00:45:48.280
correlation with owls. Um, so, so that's my second wife's experience.
834
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:50.449
You know, they don't have anything more than that. Like
835
00:45:50.469 --> 00:45:55.090
they never seen grays, but, um, that's their experiences. But
836
00:45:55.150 --> 00:45:57.750
I do have one experience that I will share with
837
00:45:57.789 --> 00:46:00.550
you that happened with the birth of my first daughter. Yeah.
838
00:46:00.570 --> 00:46:01.679
I was just about to ask you about that.
839
00:46:02.739 --> 00:46:05.940
Yeah. So, um, I have been remarried, so I have
840
00:46:05.980 --> 00:46:10.400
a second wife now, but my first wife, um, I,
841
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.219
on the night that I believe my daughter was conceived
842
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.739
with my first wife, um, I had my very first
843
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:22.579
experience with sleep paralysis. So we had obviously made love,
844
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:26.539
went to bed and fell asleep. And around, I don't know,
845
00:46:26.619 --> 00:46:29.159
three in the morning, I woke up. I had never,
846
00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:32.099
I've heard of sleep paralysis, never experienced it in my life.
847
00:46:33.579 --> 00:46:37.769
I woke up, I could not move. My eyeballs could move,
848
00:46:37.829 --> 00:46:40.170
but nothing in my body. And as I noticed, there
849
00:46:40.210 --> 00:46:42.769
were maybe, I can't say an exact number. There were
850
00:46:43.250 --> 00:46:48.989
multiple grays. around the bed. They were the three foot tall,
851
00:46:49.070 --> 00:46:51.590
the shiny, the smooth skin. I could tell these were
852
00:46:51.610 --> 00:46:55.940
the drone types. They were around my bed. And then
853
00:46:56.019 --> 00:46:58.900
across the room, I could see a portal in the wall.
854
00:46:59.380 --> 00:47:01.340
And in the portal, I could see it was a
855
00:47:01.420 --> 00:47:04.340
ship and I could see like instrumentation panels and other
856
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.730
grays standing at them. Now, what I was told by
857
00:47:08.769 --> 00:47:12.170
the by my I was just told, I don't know
858
00:47:12.190 --> 00:47:14.409
if it's true or not, I get these messages and
859
00:47:14.449 --> 00:47:16.659
they told me that there was a ship, an etheric
860
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:21.880
ship was parked on my house in my bedroom. And basically,
861
00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:24.360
I don't know exactly why it was important for them
862
00:47:24.420 --> 00:47:28.440
to do something with my daughter. But it was exactly
863
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.010
nine months after that that she was born. I.
864
00:47:32.429 --> 00:47:35.730
So during the experience, I couldn't move, but I was
865
00:47:35.750 --> 00:47:37.489
a little bit freaked out. I was kind of more
866
00:47:37.530 --> 00:47:40.170
observing at first, but when they started to notice me,
867
00:47:40.210 --> 00:47:43.170
I could tell they were getting a little frantic. And
868
00:47:45.110 --> 00:47:47.150
I noticed that I could start to move my pinky.
869
00:47:47.710 --> 00:47:53.230
So I basically nudged my first wife, fiance at the time,
870
00:47:53.570 --> 00:47:56.679
and she woke up and that basically made them just
871
00:47:56.699 --> 00:47:59.639
kind of like, they just kind of evaporated. It just
872
00:47:59.659 --> 00:48:03.360
kind of, they phased out. Wow. And she woke up
873
00:48:03.420 --> 00:48:07.500
and I could move again. So that was that experience.
874
00:48:07.699 --> 00:48:10.380
Now fast forward to my daughter's birth. Now this is
875
00:48:10.420 --> 00:48:14.639
where it gets really wacky. So my daughter was born
876
00:48:14.659 --> 00:48:22.539
in February of 2004. And I'd say two months after that,
877
00:48:22.699 --> 00:48:26.320
it was probably the end of March, early April. Me
878
00:48:26.380 --> 00:48:31.539
and my ex-wife got the weirdest idea, some weird hair
879
00:48:31.739 --> 00:48:34.409
up our butt. To take a trip to the sand
880
00:48:34.429 --> 00:48:37.250
dunes in the middle of, you know, early spring when
881
00:48:37.269 --> 00:48:40.730
it was still freezing. Now, we drove down to the
882
00:48:40.789 --> 00:48:43.889
sand dunes, camped for the weekend, and came back home.
883
00:48:45.340 --> 00:48:48.820
Neither of us can remember what we did there. We
884
00:48:48.860 --> 00:48:52.300
don't remember one moment of memory from there, not even
885
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.500
a bit. And even looking back, both of us, we've
886
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:57.980
talked about it several times. We're very open to talk
887
00:48:58.019 --> 00:48:59.969
about it. But both of us are like, well, why
888
00:49:00.010 --> 00:49:01.610
in the heck would we go to the sand dunes
889
00:49:01.670 --> 00:49:04.530
in April or in March, like with a two month
890
00:49:04.590 --> 00:49:10.119
old baby? Like, what were we doing? Yeah. And I
891
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:13.699
have one memory of driving into the campground at sand dunes.
892
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:16.150
There was no one there because it was obviously freezing,
893
00:49:17.090 --> 00:49:19.250
setting up the tent. And that's it. I don't remember
894
00:49:19.349 --> 00:49:21.320
anything else. I don't even remember taking the tent down
895
00:49:21.380 --> 00:49:22.960
and leaving. I just remember driving home.
896
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:24.719
Wow.
897
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.679
So there goes that. I don't know what that has
898
00:49:28.699 --> 00:49:32.510
to do with anything, but it's very puzzling to say
899
00:49:32.530 --> 00:49:34.250
the least. Yeah.
900
00:49:34.789 --> 00:49:37.869
Now, do you still have experiences that are ongoing?
901
00:49:37.909 --> 00:49:43.039
Yeah. No, I not, not direct. And one of the
902
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.510
things that I, but I do have contact with these
903
00:49:45.590 --> 00:49:50.650
Arcturians all the time and I can pretty much ask anything.
904
00:49:51.050 --> 00:49:54.309
They just really don't, don't give me advice about myself.
905
00:49:55.369 --> 00:49:58.989
But I have a very strong intuition, let's say about
906
00:49:59.300 --> 00:50:00.360
anything and everything.
907
00:50:00.579 --> 00:50:03.159
So you have more of just this kind of conscious
908
00:50:03.219 --> 00:50:07.239
communication with them. Psychic communication.
909
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:11.269
Okay. Yep. And, um, the, they told me that that
910
00:50:11.289 --> 00:50:13.230
it would be like that since they take, took me
911
00:50:13.269 --> 00:50:16.329
that time. I'm not sure if they tagged me. I
912
00:50:16.369 --> 00:50:19.269
don't know exactly how, but I do have a pretty
913
00:50:19.809 --> 00:50:22.889
conscious communication with them at all times. Cause that I,
914
00:50:23.219 --> 00:50:25.599
there's a way to tell when it's not yourself, you know,
915
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:28.400
it's answers that come out of left field that you're
916
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:30.880
not thinking of. In fact, a lot of times they
917
00:50:30.900 --> 00:50:33.920
will admonish me for things too. I mean, it's almost
918
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:38.010
like a big brother. Um, And as far as the
919
00:50:38.969 --> 00:50:43.670
tall reptilian being, it's been witnessed by several people, my family,
920
00:50:43.789 --> 00:50:47.610
my friends, and my wife, and two of my best
921
00:50:47.650 --> 00:50:50.349
friends since then have been like, dude, what the F
922
00:50:50.409 --> 00:50:52.690
is that that I saw?
923
00:50:53.429 --> 00:50:57.530
There seems to be two prominent sides of this. The
924
00:50:57.630 --> 00:51:01.610
first side is the positive, benevolent side, which we mostly
925
00:51:01.670 --> 00:51:05.989
spoke about tonight. And I've experienced this type of contact.
926
00:51:06.050 --> 00:51:10.289
I've had hundreds of guests that have experienced benevolent contact.
927
00:51:10.469 --> 00:51:15.019
And this type of experience seems to be attempting to
928
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:20.059
evolve humanity, to grow our consciousness, to expand our consciousness
929
00:51:20.099 --> 00:51:23.829
and get us to the next level of human evolution.
930
00:51:24.710 --> 00:51:28.329
And it seems to be a very beneficial type of contact.
931
00:51:28.369 --> 00:51:30.929
And then they have the second type, which the more
932
00:51:31.010 --> 00:51:34.659
I learn about, the more it seems to be something
933
00:51:34.699 --> 00:51:37.989
that is human-based. It seems to be something that our
934
00:51:38.090 --> 00:51:44.869
military is doing, that these very black projects that are
935
00:51:45.269 --> 00:51:49.650
taking advantage of people, possibly even still abducting people, feeding
936
00:51:49.750 --> 00:51:53.170
false information, I think that's what's going to be behind
937
00:51:53.230 --> 00:51:57.389
this whole alien narrative that's being put forward in the mainstream.
938
00:51:58.070 --> 00:52:01.250
And I think that's the negative side is what humanity
939
00:52:01.329 --> 00:52:07.039
is actually doing as opposed to these benevolent non-human intelligences
940
00:52:07.099 --> 00:52:09.760
that seem to be trying to evolve us in a way.
941
00:52:10.139 --> 00:52:10.719
Would you agree?
942
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.539
100%. I mean, you're, you hit it, hit the nail
943
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.440
on the head. Um, they, they explained to me the,
944
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:20.969
my lab abductions, they showed them to me, they showed me,
945
00:52:21.530 --> 00:52:23.969
you know, that it is the government. It's a, it's
946
00:52:24.030 --> 00:52:28.599
a breakaway civilization type government, you know? Um, that's been,
947
00:52:28.699 --> 00:52:31.420
I guess, kind of in the background for a long time,
948
00:52:31.659 --> 00:52:37.820
you know, withholding extremely advanced technology, free energy, you know,
949
00:52:37.860 --> 00:52:41.920
things that would propel us into the next dimension, obviously, with,
950
00:52:42.260 --> 00:52:46.000
you know, understanding not having to suffer, you know, not having,
951
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:49.800
they could fix everything that's happening, but they choose not to,
952
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:53.139
as a way of controlling and enslaving the population. And
953
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:56.679
they told me that this is 100% happening. And that,
954
00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:01.280
and I think they showed me these robotic geo, you know,
955
00:53:01.579 --> 00:53:05.460
bioengineered beings because they told me that they're being used
956
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:10.039
by both sides. They were originally created by these one grays,
957
00:53:10.059 --> 00:53:12.460
like I said, that are trying to rejuvenate their DNA.
958
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:17.789
But they've been back engineered by the bad guys that
959
00:53:17.829 --> 00:53:20.949
are here. And they're used in a lot of the
960
00:53:21.010 --> 00:53:24.230
abduction scenarios that you've heard of where people have these
961
00:53:24.570 --> 00:53:28.469
horrible experiences that I've heard of. And I don't, I don't,
962
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:30.650
excuse me, I don't doubt them for a moment either.
963
00:53:32.230 --> 00:53:34.889
You know, I mean, as dark as you can think
964
00:53:35.010 --> 00:53:38.750
that it's things that are happening, they are. You know,
965
00:53:38.769 --> 00:53:42.610
and I did ask them about demons and, you know,
966
00:53:42.670 --> 00:53:45.630
God and things like that and how that relates to them.
967
00:53:46.130 --> 00:53:48.190
And they says, well, it's all about how you look
968
00:53:48.289 --> 00:53:51.929
at it. You know, demons are things that can manipulate
969
00:53:51.969 --> 00:53:55.869
the air. They can be invisible, you know. They can
970
00:53:56.110 --> 00:53:59.050
be that trans-dimensional, but they're like, if you don't look
971
00:53:59.090 --> 00:54:02.090
at it like that, like that's the way religion puts it.
972
00:54:02.889 --> 00:54:08.079
But they said 100% that there is a spiritual element
973
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:13.880
to it. There is an unseen force. And that basically
974
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:19.989
the way to combat that is that they told me
975
00:54:20.030 --> 00:54:24.300
that it's basically about standing up for yourself. you have
976
00:54:24.340 --> 00:54:27.440
to get their respect. And if they respect you, there's
977
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:35.159
these laws they have to follow. They know your deepest desires.
978
00:54:35.219 --> 00:54:38.269
If you're trying to act like a badass, but privately
979
00:54:38.289 --> 00:54:44.690
you're a porn addict or you harbor hate or unforgiveness,
980
00:54:45.110 --> 00:54:49.369
they know all that. They can weed out anything inside
981
00:54:49.409 --> 00:54:51.369
of you. So They said the best thing is to
982
00:54:51.409 --> 00:54:55.230
stay clean, try to be as clean as possible. And
983
00:54:55.489 --> 00:54:59.610
they do admire strength. They admire bravery. They admire resilience.
984
00:55:00.739 --> 00:55:02.599
And you can get these things– if you can get
985
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:04.500
these things to respect you, then they ain't going to
986
00:55:04.539 --> 00:55:08.139
bother you. That's the way that they told me. And
987
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:09.940
you've got to guard respect deep inside.
988
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:15.050
Yeah, it seems like even both sides, there is a
989
00:55:15.230 --> 00:55:21.010
sense of trying to push humanity to evolve itself. whether
990
00:55:21.110 --> 00:55:25.179
it's something that we perceive as negative or positive, the
991
00:55:25.219 --> 00:55:29.239
polarities without that, we wouldn't be able to evolve as humans.
992
00:55:29.300 --> 00:55:32.500
And I think even these negative forces, what we perceive
993
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:36.159
as negative forces have their own role to play in
994
00:55:36.429 --> 00:55:38.769
evolving us as humans. 100%.
995
00:55:38.769 --> 00:55:41.769
They said that they couldn't, we, that they're, they, they
996
00:55:41.829 --> 00:55:45.909
actually serve a crucial role, a crucial role because it's
997
00:55:45.949 --> 00:55:49.849
part of refining. Um, so, uh, They're like, without these
998
00:55:49.909 --> 00:55:53.730
tempting demons that pull people into drug addiction and this
999
00:55:53.809 --> 00:55:57.210
and that, you know, all the darknesses of humanity. They said,
1000
00:55:57.250 --> 00:56:00.250
without that, how do we know who are the strong ones?
1001
00:56:00.289 --> 00:56:02.429
You know, how do we know who we should focus on?
1002
00:56:02.989 --> 00:56:06.650
You know, and they realize that it's a big, you know,
1003
00:56:06.670 --> 00:56:10.949
it's like it's not going to happen for everybody. Many
1004
00:56:11.010 --> 00:56:14.360
people are very far behind the curve. You know what
1005
00:56:14.380 --> 00:56:18.059
I'm saying? And that's just to propel those ones that aren't,
1006
00:56:18.219 --> 00:56:21.940
you know, that are moving there and are ascended. And
1007
00:56:21.980 --> 00:56:23.719
I guess what they told me is that a lot
1008
00:56:23.739 --> 00:56:26.019
of the people, because of our population is so large,
1009
00:56:26.059 --> 00:56:27.900
and I guess, you know, and they didn't give me
1010
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.219
any specifications. They did show me, just like everyone else,
1011
00:56:31.260 --> 00:56:34.139
they showed me some doomsday scenarios. They showed me some
1012
00:56:34.219 --> 00:56:37.260
crazy stuff happening. But they said it didn't have to
1013
00:56:37.300 --> 00:56:41.099
be that way. And they did tell me that there
1014
00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:45.239
are a lot of, like, people that, have already gone
1015
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:48.489
past earth that are back here in human bodies to
1016
00:56:48.550 --> 00:56:51.449
witness and help during this end times and i guess
1017
00:56:51.510 --> 00:56:54.750
i'm one of them so a lot of these contactees
1018
00:56:54.789 --> 00:56:57.670
that's part of their mission i guess here is to
1019
00:56:57.750 --> 00:57:01.150
assist and even if it's just spreading information because they
1020
00:57:01.170 --> 00:57:04.570
told me they they especially them they said the pleiadians
1021
00:57:04.710 --> 00:57:06.610
and the grays have been giving a little bit more
1022
00:57:07.389 --> 00:57:10.360
um ability to interact but because they're so high up
1023
00:57:10.409 --> 00:57:12.940
and they're they're they can't really do anything except do
1024
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.219
what they did to me that's pretty much the extent
1025
00:57:15.260 --> 00:57:19.159
of their of what they can do um they did
1026
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:21.760
tell me like pleiadians have stopped some nuclear stuff you
1027
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.349
know have you've heard of those stories where like an
1028
00:57:24.469 --> 00:57:28.210
air force base went completely shut down by a hovering
1029
00:57:28.429 --> 00:57:31.570
craft those were pleiadians i guess they're the ones that
1030
00:57:31.809 --> 00:57:34.730
are are doing all that type of they i'm Yeah.
1031
00:57:34.789 --> 00:57:36.570
And then another thing, just I'll tell you, Chris, they
1032
00:57:36.590 --> 00:57:39.110
told me it's all over. They're like most of them
1033
00:57:39.150 --> 00:57:42.510
have all left already by now. In the early 2000
1034
00:57:42.510 --> 00:57:45.449
was the end of the abductions. It's not happening anymore.
1035
00:57:46.139 --> 00:57:48.460
It's very rare that you will hear of that stuff
1036
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:50.960
happening right now. And if they are, it's not it's
1037
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:51.969
the government doing it.
1038
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:58.920
Now, did they give you any other profound information about
1039
00:57:59.539 --> 00:58:02.699
the upcoming future that we have about the direction that
1040
00:58:02.739 --> 00:58:03.820
we're headed collectively?
1041
00:58:06.829 --> 00:58:10.750
Mm-hmm. I would say profound, yes, but not detailed. They
1042
00:58:10.789 --> 00:58:13.769
did tell me that we are in for something very,
1043
00:58:13.809 --> 00:58:17.449
very big on the horizon. And they told me that
1044
00:58:17.510 --> 00:58:21.309
I had a little bit of time to get things together.
1045
00:58:21.349 --> 00:58:24.929
And this was 1996. But they did say be ready.
1046
00:58:24.949 --> 00:58:27.860
I don't think it's going to be some end world event.
1047
00:58:27.989 --> 00:58:30.579
I don't think it's going to be a catastrophe like that.
1048
00:58:30.699 --> 00:58:32.099
I do think there is going to be a lot
1049
00:58:32.139 --> 00:58:35.530
of dead people. I think, you know, there is going
1050
00:58:35.550 --> 00:58:37.429
to be a lot of loss of life. But at
1051
00:58:37.469 --> 00:58:40.849
the same time, I think, you know, I'm hoping that
1052
00:58:40.869 --> 00:58:43.670
we're going to push through. I'm a big optimist. I've
1053
00:58:43.789 --> 00:58:48.050
always been an optimist. Just seeing the future and seeing other,
1054
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:50.820
you know, ways of life and what the information they've
1055
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.699
given me, it's given me a great deal of optimism
1056
00:58:53.780 --> 00:58:56.559
and hope for our world. But, you know, it is
1057
00:58:56.619 --> 00:58:58.929
in a pretty stark place, you know, at the moment.
1058
00:58:59.050 --> 00:59:01.519
And That's one of the main reasons why I've come
1059
00:59:01.579 --> 00:59:03.800
forward is because I just want to maybe just spread
1060
00:59:03.820 --> 00:59:06.550
some of this information and let people know that, you know,
1061
00:59:06.610 --> 00:59:09.090
we do have a war going on right now. There
1062
00:59:09.190 --> 00:59:14.460
is a stir. war going on for our future. And
1063
00:59:14.500 --> 00:59:18.480
I think, you know, environmentally, yes, it's a complete nightmare.
1064
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:21.219
But I think if we can pull things together spiritually,
1065
00:59:21.260 --> 00:59:24.119
we may have a chance, you know. for that to
1066
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:27.260
spread forward. But we've got something to dig out of now, man.
1067
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:29.480
We've gone really far down the bad path.
1068
00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:35.239
Yeah, we're in critical times to say the least. Alex,
1069
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:38.829
you're also working on a book about all of this, right?
1070
00:59:40.110 --> 00:59:43.949
Absolutely. I'm planning to release it this spring, self-published on Amazon.
1071
00:59:44.809 --> 00:59:47.510
I'll let you know first thing when it's published. I'm
1072
00:59:47.530 --> 00:59:51.519
about 75% done. I'm just kind of getting all the
1073
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:56.119
finer points done editing and yeah, I'm pretty much there
1074
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:56.539
for sure.
1075
00:59:56.599 --> 00:59:57.099
Excellent.
1076
00:59:57.760 --> 00:59:57.960
Yes.
1077
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:01.079
We'll definitely have to be updated on that. Alex, thank
1078
01:00:01.099 --> 01:00:05.719
you so much. Those incredible experiences and insights. We'll have
1079
01:00:05.739 --> 01:00:08.469
to get deeper in the future because we barely scratched
1080
01:00:08.510 --> 01:00:11.409
the surface. So looking forward to that before you go,
1081
01:00:12.030 --> 01:00:14.530
is there anything else that you'd like to let the
1082
01:00:14.630 --> 01:00:17.409
audience know about how to find your work or anything else?
1083
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.219
No, it'll be under the name Alex Cruz, and it'll
1084
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:24.429
be on, like I said, it'll be on Amazon. I
1085
01:00:24.449 --> 01:00:28.469
will be having a Kindle. I've actually published a few
1086
01:00:29.050 --> 01:00:32.670
other short stories and kids' books, and I'm about to
1087
01:00:32.730 --> 01:00:35.449
write this book. This is my next project. So that's
1088
01:00:35.489 --> 01:00:37.369
about it, and I'll let you know when it's released.
1089
01:00:37.949 --> 01:00:40.690
Excellent. Alex, thank you so much. We'll definitely do this again.
1090
01:00:40.710 --> 01:00:44.099
And until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
1091
01:00:44.139 --> 01:00:45.239
talk again tomorrow.
1092
01:00:45.780 --> 01:00:46.340
See y'all then.
1093
01:00:49.489 --> 01:00:51.929
Today I want to welcome back to the show Amy Belair.
1094
01:00:52.369 --> 01:00:57.769
She is a starseed activator, priestess, oracle, channel, and Akashic
1095
01:00:57.849 --> 01:01:03.190
soul guide. She translates and anchors powerful multidimensional light codes
1096
01:01:03.329 --> 01:01:07.570
into the 3D human experience, doing her sacred part to
1097
01:01:07.650 --> 01:01:12.559
assist the human collective to wake up within the dream. Amy,
1098
01:01:12.699 --> 01:01:14.280
welcome back. How you doing?
1099
01:01:14.300 --> 01:01:18.000
I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me, Chris.
1100
01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:21.239
Yes, thank you so much for coming back on. Last
1101
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:24.159
time was so fun. I can't wait for our conversation today.
1102
01:01:24.179 --> 01:01:27.510
We're going to attempt to shed some light on different
1103
01:01:27.530 --> 01:01:32.210
spiritual practices that I've really come to understand are extremely
1104
01:01:32.289 --> 01:01:35.550
important in each and every one of our journeys, as
1105
01:01:35.590 --> 01:01:38.409
well as I want to get your further insight into
1106
01:01:38.829 --> 01:01:42.409
how we can tap into our own highest self and
1107
01:01:42.489 --> 01:01:46.929
possibly remember our soul's purpose and mission in And there's
1108
01:01:47.130 --> 01:01:50.590
plenty of rabbit holes we can jump into that branch
1109
01:01:50.670 --> 01:01:54.210
off of that. But before we do, first, remind the
1110
01:01:54.309 --> 01:01:56.519
audience just a little bit about yourself. It's been a
1111
01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:59.260
while since you've been on and your work.
1112
01:02:00.820 --> 01:02:02.699
Yeah, thank you. Well, okay.
1113
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:04.760
So I guess the crux of my work is always
1114
01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:07.000
the Akashic Records. That's what got me into all of this.
1115
01:02:07.059 --> 01:02:09.489
And it's still what I do most centrally.
1116
01:02:09.710 --> 01:02:09.849
So I.
1117
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:17.380
Call myself an Akashic Oracle. So what that means is
1118
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:20.110
I can read people's individual Akashic records, but I can
1119
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:25.530
also tap into the collective human consciousness, as well as
1120
01:02:25.570 --> 01:02:28.670
like our past, present and future and bring through information about.
1121
01:02:28.510 --> 01:02:30.110
That that applies more generally.
1122
01:02:30.510 --> 01:02:33.949
And I'm always accessing it from the Akashic records. And
1123
01:02:33.969 --> 01:02:38.579
I really love to teach people about basically like everything
1124
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:41.619
related to consciousness expansion. So sometimes it comes through teaching
1125
01:02:41.659 --> 01:02:44.769
people how to access the Akashic records, um, how to
1126
01:02:45.230 --> 01:02:48.769
develop their psychic abilities right now. I'm like super into
1127
01:02:49.650 --> 01:02:53.590
talking about how to manifest and consciously timeline shift and
1128
01:02:53.630 --> 01:02:55.730
kind of like what quantum leaping is and all that
1129
01:02:55.829 --> 01:02:58.889
sort of stuff. But really it's because it's all because
1130
01:02:59.730 --> 01:03:02.769
I can remember a lot and I want other people
1131
01:03:02.809 --> 01:03:03.570
to remember with me.
1132
01:03:03.989 --> 01:03:04.210
Okay.
1133
01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:05.380
Excellent.
1134
01:03:05.460 --> 01:03:05.780
Excellent.
1135
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.690
Where I wanted to start today is I wanted to
1136
01:03:08.750 --> 01:03:13.789
get your insights as to where we're at collectively with
1137
01:03:14.030 --> 01:03:19.300
our consciousness evolution. Ever since the past few years have
1138
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:23.719
occurred and all the incredible events and all the incredibly
1139
01:03:23.780 --> 01:03:28.260
stupid events that have also unfolded, there has been coinciding
1140
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:33.300
an obvious awakening in people that many folks that I
1141
01:03:33.420 --> 01:03:36.280
never thought would have the level of awareness that they
1142
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:40.980
do now are showing great interest in things that they
1143
01:03:41.019 --> 01:03:43.880
have not before. And this is happening on a large scale.
1144
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:46.989
And I'd like to get your thoughts on where we
1145
01:03:47.110 --> 01:03:50.809
are with that and where it could all be going
1146
01:03:51.170 --> 01:03:52.010
and why now?
1147
01:03:54.989 --> 01:03:55.429
Yeah.
1148
01:03:55.929 --> 01:03:56.170
Yes.
1149
01:03:56.369 --> 01:03:58.909
I mean, It's so exciting for me to hear that
1150
01:03:59.010 --> 01:04:01.780
because honestly, in my, I feel like I live in
1151
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.320
such a little bubble. So I live in rural Ontario
1152
01:04:05.500 --> 01:04:09.019
in Canada and I'm in a little farmhouse, so I'm
1153
01:04:09.059 --> 01:04:12.199
not even in town anymore. And I feel like I
1154
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:17.380
have curated the interactions in my life so effectively. that
1155
01:04:17.619 --> 01:04:22.280
i'm always talking to awakened people and i'm very seldom
1156
01:04:22.340 --> 01:04:24.880
talking to not awake people in a deeper you know
1157
01:04:24.980 --> 01:04:26.639
obviously like when i go to the grocery store and
1158
01:04:26.659 --> 01:04:30.969
stuff like that um and so i would say that
1159
01:04:31.090 --> 01:04:34.530
i'm not experiencing it firsthand personally because i'm always talking
1160
01:04:34.550 --> 01:04:37.150
to people who are awake but i did get the
1161
01:04:37.190 --> 01:04:39.670
message earlier this year i think it was around march
1162
01:04:39.710 --> 01:04:43.119
and april that there was going to be a tsunami
1163
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:49.659
of awakening this year. Just so many people awakening. And
1164
01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:53.460
I guess the way that I see it, I feel
1165
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:57.159
very optimistic. And that's kind of my nature. But from
1166
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:02.110
what I can see, there is, of course, a ton
1167
01:05:02.150 --> 01:05:05.329
of chaos. And then there is like the ridiculous ongoing
1168
01:05:05.409 --> 01:05:08.960
sideshow that we are always having paraded in front of us.
1169
01:05:09.809 --> 01:05:12.630
Um, but what we're.
1170
01:05:12.449 --> 01:05:17.710
In this process now where we are reassembling that, which
1171
01:05:17.750 --> 01:05:20.309
has been fragmented. So it feels to me like for
1172
01:05:20.369 --> 01:05:24.730
a long time with every subsequent incarnation, we were fragmenting
1173
01:05:24.769 --> 01:05:28.070
in our consciousness further and further and further. So becoming, um,
1174
01:05:28.889 --> 01:05:32.280
more and more disconnected in ourselves and like the more
1175
01:05:32.380 --> 01:05:35.929
fragmented we became, the less access we had to our
1176
01:05:35.989 --> 01:05:39.250
memories of who we really are and like what exists
1177
01:05:39.329 --> 01:05:41.329
outside of this earth construct.
1178
01:05:42.150 --> 01:05:44.289
And we are now in the.
1179
01:05:44.269 --> 01:05:48.989
Process of like receiving those memories back and almost like
1180
01:05:49.010 --> 01:05:53.190
re-coagulating in our consciousness. And that's only going to lead
1181
01:05:53.230 --> 01:05:55.829
to good things. But I also understand that the process
1182
01:05:55.889 --> 01:06:00.300
is going to be messy because, well, one of the
1183
01:06:00.340 --> 01:06:02.030
main things that I've been thinking about a lot lately
1184
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:05.119
is how much, you know, we still don't really want
1185
01:06:05.219 --> 01:06:10.119
to acknowledge and accept the dark roles that we have
1186
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:14.429
played or like not even necessarily like the super dark roles,
1187
01:06:14.489 --> 01:06:20.309
but just like the less savory experiences we may have
1188
01:06:20.349 --> 01:06:23.750
had in past lives, like things we wouldn't be proud of.
1189
01:06:23.849 --> 01:06:25.730
Like a lot of the time, you know, we love
1190
01:06:25.809 --> 01:06:30.579
to hear about how we were hard done by, we
1191
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.980
were victimized. We were like, we were the good guy,
1192
01:06:34.019 --> 01:06:36.679
the downtrodden or whatever. Like, I feel like that's what
1193
01:06:37.030 --> 01:06:39.849
people really like to hear about those parts of themselves,
1194
01:06:39.929 --> 01:06:44.829
but it's a lot harder for us to acknowledge the,
1195
01:06:45.929 --> 01:06:51.969
the ways that we participated in. Yeah. Just like behaviors
1196
01:06:52.010 --> 01:06:55.440
and choices that aren't really, aren't really becoming of us
1197
01:06:55.539 --> 01:07:00.750
and aren't flattering. And so it's, as those pieces come forward,
1198
01:07:00.769 --> 01:07:03.710
there's like a denial of them, which then like, there's
1199
01:07:03.730 --> 01:07:08.030
this whole process where we almost like inadvertently create more shadow.
1200
01:07:08.469 --> 01:07:11.679
And then that feeds a lot of the existing dark entities.
1201
01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:14.239
And there's, there is a battle as I perceive it
1202
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:18.980
here within this realm over our consciousness. So there's like
1203
01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:23.800
the dark, like hidden, like parasitic things that really just
1204
01:07:23.860 --> 01:07:26.639
want to keep us as a, a food source, so
1205
01:07:26.659 --> 01:07:29.420
to speak as a light source. And then there is
1206
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:33.059
the part of us that is like reawakening and remembering.
1207
01:07:33.099 --> 01:07:36.920
But it's kind of like if somebody has, you know,
1208
01:07:36.940 --> 01:07:38.699
like let's say somebody gets into an accident and then
1209
01:07:38.739 --> 01:07:44.739
they have amnesia because of that and they're receiving their memories.
1210
01:07:45.530 --> 01:07:47.809
It's like starting to come back. It often comes back
1211
01:07:47.869 --> 01:07:50.769
in little fragments. Or if somebody has a repressed trauma memory,
1212
01:07:51.210 --> 01:07:53.510
it comes back in little fragments. It doesn't come back
1213
01:07:54.010 --> 01:07:57.610
often in one whole thing where everything makes sense. And
1214
01:07:57.670 --> 01:08:01.070
those fragments, even the pieces of information will get distorted
1215
01:08:01.150 --> 01:08:03.250
by a part of our psyche that's trying to protect
1216
01:08:03.570 --> 01:08:07.989
us from ourselves so that we don't like fully understand
1217
01:08:08.010 --> 01:08:10.000
the information that's coming through. And I think that's a
1218
01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:13.559
lot of where we're at with people who are newly awakening,
1219
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:17.260
who probably weren't, like you said, like people that you
1220
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:20.319
never thought would be operating at this level of consciousness,
1221
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:22.909
like for them to turn on very quickly, it means
1222
01:08:22.970 --> 01:08:25.369
a lot of information is flooding in very quickly, but
1223
01:08:25.470 --> 01:08:28.890
also the Their human ego mind is not really prepared
1224
01:08:28.970 --> 01:08:31.010
to receive that information. So there's some kind of like
1225
01:08:31.069 --> 01:08:32.819
warping and denial that goes with it.
1226
01:08:33.850 --> 01:08:34.899
It's messy.
1227
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:36.100
Yeah, yeah.
1228
01:08:36.140 --> 01:08:38.060
There's something you said a few times that is a
1229
01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:42.699
very important concept I want to get to. You said remembering,
1230
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:45.720
remembering who we are, remembering our purpose, remember where we
1231
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:49.560
came from. And this concept has never made sense to
1232
01:08:49.619 --> 01:08:56.069
me until recent years when I started consciousness exploration, exploring
1233
01:08:56.109 --> 01:09:00.659
my own spirituality, making contact with my spirit guides. using
1234
01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:05.640
various plant medicines. And then eventually I start to understand
1235
01:09:05.699 --> 01:09:09.039
that I'm not from here, that I have a job
1236
01:09:09.100 --> 01:09:14.340
to do here, that that's part of remembering my soul's purpose.
1237
01:09:15.060 --> 01:09:17.609
And I'm coming more and more to understand what that
1238
01:09:17.670 --> 01:09:21.060
purpose is, what that job is with the deeper I
1239
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:25.760
go through these consciousness exploration and spiritual journeys, but I
1240
01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:29.439
completely understand what it means to remember now. And so
1241
01:09:29.460 --> 01:09:32.699
many people are, they ask me about that and they
1242
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:36.359
don't quite understand what it, what that means, what that
1243
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:39.470
we're supposed to remember who and what we are.
1244
01:09:39.550 --> 01:09:39.810
Right.
1245
01:09:42.470 --> 01:09:47.390
Yeah. Well, I'm, I'm curious, like, what is your, like when,
1246
01:09:47.770 --> 01:09:52.590
as you, remember more of yourself? Like, can you go
1247
01:09:52.649 --> 01:09:56.069
more into what you perceive that is? Like, for example,
1248
01:09:56.090 --> 01:09:58.810
is it, yeah, just go ahead.
1249
01:09:58.829 --> 01:10:02.369
The biggest thing that I've become aware of is that
1250
01:10:02.489 --> 01:10:06.630
this reality that whatever we're in, it is not the,
1251
01:10:06.750 --> 01:10:09.630
it is not what you would consider our home. This
1252
01:10:09.890 --> 01:10:13.539
is an experiential reality or a creator reality that we
1253
01:10:13.699 --> 01:10:17.479
are in here to create an experience and And that
1254
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:20.819
somewhere along the way, there has been something mucked up
1255
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:24.420
in here. These lower vibrational entities that you were speaking
1256
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:29.789
of just now have sort of infiltrated aspects of this reality.
1257
01:10:29.829 --> 01:10:32.649
And it causes us to easily forget who we are
1258
01:10:32.710 --> 01:10:35.409
and why we're here, that we do come in here
1259
01:10:35.449 --> 01:10:37.949
with a purpose. And I believe that our purpose is
1260
01:10:38.029 --> 01:10:42.220
to help people. others remember and maybe get rid of
1261
01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:47.840
those sticky entities or help others free themselves from the
1262
01:10:47.979 --> 01:10:52.720
influence of those entities so that our own soul journeys,
1263
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:54.920
so each and every one of our soul journeys can
1264
01:10:55.020 --> 01:10:58.899
continue and that we can fully awaken and remember who
1265
01:10:58.939 --> 01:11:01.119
that we are. And that's where I'm at so far.
1266
01:11:01.930 --> 01:11:05.430
Yeah, totally. No, I see it the same way. So
1267
01:11:05.750 --> 01:11:07.170
I feel like there's a piece.
1268
01:11:06.970 --> 01:11:11.159
Of remembering that, So usually, I don't know. I don't
1269
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:12.619
know if this is how it goes right now for
1270
01:11:12.659 --> 01:11:15.319
people who are awakening right now. But in the past,
1271
01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:19.090
I feel like the first layer of remembering is where
1272
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:22.529
we sort of like acknowledge like, oh, I'm a soul.
1273
01:11:22.670 --> 01:11:26.630
And then we acknowledge like the reincarnation thing. Like, oh,
1274
01:11:26.670 --> 01:11:29.829
I've probably had other lifetimes. And so we kind of
1275
01:11:29.909 --> 01:11:32.789
start to piece together the through line of some of
1276
01:11:32.850 --> 01:11:36.130
the experiences we've had on earth. And then like you said,
1277
01:11:36.510 --> 01:11:39.699
then there's this big up jump where it's like, oh,
1278
01:11:39.939 --> 01:11:43.010
I also exist outside of earth. Like I exist outside
1279
01:11:43.050 --> 01:11:45.909
of this construct and not just in heaven or whatever,
1280
01:11:46.430 --> 01:11:52.069
but like there are other realms. There are other, like
1281
01:11:52.130 --> 01:11:55.420
there's much, much more to me. And there is a
1282
01:11:55.500 --> 01:11:58.239
reason that we're here. And I agree with you totally
1283
01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:03.319
that there's a dark overlay here. I call it the
1284
01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:08.310
false matrix. Yeah. Because to me, this realm is, like
1285
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:11.989
you said, I agree completely. It's a creator experience, like
1286
01:12:12.029 --> 01:12:15.590
an experiential reality where you come in almost like a sandbox,
1287
01:12:16.029 --> 01:12:18.829
you know, like those sandbox games, like Gary's Mod, like
1288
01:12:18.850 --> 01:12:22.409
you come in and there are some rules, but for
1289
01:12:22.449 --> 01:12:27.310
the most part, it's designed for us to just create
1290
01:12:27.470 --> 01:12:34.390
an experience without necessarily originally having had an objective beyond that.
1291
01:12:35.329 --> 01:12:39.119
And so to me, this realm is, its own like
1292
01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:43.319
organic holographic matrix. Matrix just meaning that has like an
1293
01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:45.850
organization to it. And it's like a hologram.
1294
01:12:45.899 --> 01:12:49.430
Some kind of cosmic programming as well that goes along
1295
01:12:49.470 --> 01:12:51.729
with it. Like cosmic algorithms.
1296
01:12:52.029 --> 01:12:53.630
Yeah, exactly.
1297
01:12:53.689 --> 01:12:54.210
That's right.
1298
01:12:54.310 --> 01:12:59.350
Like, yeah, it has things built into it so that
1299
01:12:59.909 --> 01:13:03.130
it has like ways that it functions. Like there, I
1300
01:13:03.149 --> 01:13:04.930
just call them rules because I don't really know the
1301
01:13:04.989 --> 01:13:09.409
right words to use, but- So there's an organic, beautiful
1302
01:13:09.649 --> 01:13:13.239
holographic matrix here. And then there is a false matrix
1303
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:16.420
overlay because I believe that this realm has been infiltrated
1304
01:13:16.500 --> 01:13:22.479
by dark consciousness that is on a journey of extreme,
1305
01:13:26.449 --> 01:13:31.689
I don't know, like extreme preservation of ego, extreme, you know, like.
1306
01:13:32.369 --> 01:13:35.529
The way I've seen it sometimes is that it, It
1307
01:13:35.590 --> 01:13:38.550
cannot create to the level we can. So it whispers
1308
01:13:38.609 --> 01:13:42.409
in our ears and uses us to create what it
1309
01:13:43.020 --> 01:13:45.800
would like the reality to be, if you know what
1310
01:13:45.859 --> 01:13:46.180
I mean.
1311
01:13:47.020 --> 01:13:47.279
Yes.
1312
01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:50.539
Sorry, I aspirated on my tea.
1313
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:52.000
Yes, 100%.
1314
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:56.579
That's totally exactly what I see. It can't create. But
1315
01:13:56.619 --> 01:13:59.680
the reason it can't create is because it has chosen
1316
01:13:59.939 --> 01:14:05.159
to distance itself so far from Source. or God or whatever,
1317
01:14:05.180 --> 01:14:10.180
you know, like the totality consciousness that, that this dark
1318
01:14:12.130 --> 01:14:17.329
thing and all of its little subsidiaries has chosen the
1319
01:14:17.390 --> 01:14:23.500
path of self over like unity. And because it has
1320
01:14:23.899 --> 01:14:27.979
chosen the path of self, that means that it prioritizes itself.
1321
01:14:28.659 --> 01:14:33.069
over anything else, regardless of any collateral damage to all
1322
01:14:33.130 --> 01:14:36.710
other aspects of creation. And in order to do that,
1323
01:14:37.149 --> 01:14:41.489
it has to like, basically, it's almost like surgically remove
1324
01:14:41.550 --> 01:14:45.270
its own heart chakra. Because the heart is what connects
1325
01:14:45.350 --> 01:14:47.840
us all to each other. That's where like when we
1326
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:51.279
feel empathic or, you know, if we're watching something on
1327
01:14:51.340 --> 01:14:54.600
TV or a movie and we're having an emotional reaction
1328
01:14:54.619 --> 01:14:56.380
to what the character is going through, we're feeling it
1329
01:14:56.420 --> 01:15:00.109
in our heart. So our heart is like necessary for
1330
01:15:00.189 --> 01:15:04.250
us to understand unity consciousness. So it has removed its heart,
1331
01:15:04.449 --> 01:15:06.930
but the heart is also necessary for the creation process.
1332
01:15:06.949 --> 01:15:10.409
So we can't create anymore, but it wants to, and
1333
01:15:10.430 --> 01:15:13.229
it wants to create the reality that serves itself. And
1334
01:15:13.250 --> 01:15:17.069
I see it the exact same way. It whispers lies
1335
01:15:17.270 --> 01:15:20.079
into our ears and it tries to make it sound
1336
01:15:20.100 --> 01:15:23.420
like our own voices so that we just believe those
1337
01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:26.039
lies and we start to manifest what it is suggesting
1338
01:15:26.100 --> 01:15:26.409
to us.
1339
01:15:27.460 --> 01:15:30.180
But that stuff doesn't benefit us. It hurts us.
1340
01:15:30.699 --> 01:15:37.189
And it benefits the self-serving motivations of this dark, out-of-control ego.
1341
01:15:38.590 --> 01:15:44.289
The way I understand and see events unfolding is that
1342
01:15:44.369 --> 01:15:47.710
we are in a very critical age of this spiritual
1343
01:15:47.750 --> 01:15:51.800
war that you were speaking of. And it will begin
1344
01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:57.250
to manifest into this physical reality that Whether folks believe
1345
01:15:57.310 --> 01:15:59.189
in it or not, I believe that we are heading
1346
01:15:59.250 --> 01:16:03.409
into a very critical time where there is a sort
1347
01:16:03.449 --> 01:16:07.510
of thinning of realities. We've already started to see some
1348
01:16:07.550 --> 01:16:12.100
of the insanity unfold with the fake alien nonsense and
1349
01:16:12.140 --> 01:16:14.359
some of the stuff that they're trying to throw out there.
1350
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:16.819
So there's a lot going on. We see it's all
1351
01:16:16.859 --> 01:16:20.359
building towards something. I understand completely that it is a
1352
01:16:20.500 --> 01:16:26.840
spiritual war, that these... lower vibrational adversarial forces are attempting
1353
01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:30.899
everything they can right now to, to gain as many
1354
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:34.649
people on their side and prevent this awakening on, on
1355
01:16:34.949 --> 01:16:36.569
our side. Do you see similar?
1356
01:16:36.590 --> 01:16:38.909
Oh yeah.
1357
01:16:38.989 --> 01:16:43.590
They're like, for sure. They're trying so hard to, um,
1358
01:16:43.729 --> 01:16:45.949
at very least muddy the waters. I think they have
1359
01:16:45.989 --> 01:16:50.319
accepted that they're, they can't stop this tidal wave of awakenings.
1360
01:16:50.789 --> 01:16:53.609
that is just going to keep like waves. There's never
1361
01:16:53.649 --> 01:16:56.510
just one, right? There's more and more waves of awakening.
1362
01:16:56.550 --> 01:17:00.689
So I think that they've accepted that it's not possible
1363
01:17:00.729 --> 01:17:03.880
to stop this at this time, but they're trying to
1364
01:17:04.340 --> 01:17:08.220
slow it down, reduce it, and then sort of pollute
1365
01:17:08.260 --> 01:17:12.859
the waters of our perceptions so that we interpret things incorrectly.
1366
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.779
I know you wanted to get into timelines today, and
1367
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:19.199
I think this ties into exactly what we are speaking
1368
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:22.920
about right now. I think there are multiple possible timelines
1369
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:26.600
that are unfolding as we speak. And it would be
1370
01:17:26.739 --> 01:17:31.760
up to us individually to shift consciousness together and achieve
1371
01:17:31.779 --> 01:17:36.020
an optimal timeline if possible. Is this something that you
1372
01:17:36.039 --> 01:17:36.640
would agree with?
1373
01:17:37.779 --> 01:17:39.579
Yes, it is totally up to us.
1374
01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.100
It's like, at least in terms of the human way
1375
01:17:43.140 --> 01:17:46.319
that it's playing out, because I also perceive that this
1376
01:17:46.380 --> 01:17:49.770
isn't only affecting earth. Like I, I feel like it's
1377
01:17:49.789 --> 01:17:52.329
a much bigger cycle that is affecting.
1378
01:17:52.350 --> 01:17:56.199
I don't know.
1379
01:17:56.220 --> 01:17:58.100
I don't even know what vocabulary to use. Cause I
1380
01:17:58.220 --> 01:18:01.739
don't even really believe in like the NASA representation of space.
1381
01:18:02.420 --> 01:18:03.939
Do you know what I mean? So I like, I
1382
01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:05.479
don't know what the word is, but.
1383
01:18:05.380 --> 01:18:08.880
Like, let's just say like the whole universe or all
1384
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:11.619
the galaxies or whatever. I feel like there's something so
1385
01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:17.050
much bigger happening, but for us as human beings, we,
1386
01:18:17.609 --> 01:18:18.369
we are the ones.
1387
01:18:18.250 --> 01:18:21.659
That, have to consciously choose.
1388
01:18:21.579 --> 01:18:26.279
And render the timeline that is the highest expression for ourselves.
1389
01:18:26.739 --> 01:18:29.539
I really strongly believe that nobody is coming to save us.
1390
01:18:30.140 --> 01:18:33.390
And I know that that probably is very offensive to
1391
01:18:33.470 --> 01:18:36.850
anybody who listens and is Christian, but like, I totally
1392
01:18:36.909 --> 01:18:39.550
believe in Christ. I have chosen myself for Christ. Like
1393
01:18:40.029 --> 01:18:43.510
there's no, if the, if the other option is Satan,
1394
01:18:43.590 --> 01:18:46.590
there is absolutely no question in my heart and my
1395
01:18:46.630 --> 01:18:50.909
mind I am for Christ. But I also believe that
1396
01:18:51.869 --> 01:18:54.369
the program that we're supposed to wait for Christ to
1397
01:18:54.409 --> 01:18:57.010
return and save us, it reminds me very much of Q.
1398
01:18:58.989 --> 01:19:02.350
There's also one that goes around in the new age
1399
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:05.899
community about the flash, the great, the grand solar flash
1400
01:19:05.939 --> 01:19:09.289
or something like that. And it's, it's to me also
1401
01:19:09.329 --> 01:19:12.060
feels like that program. If you ever hear somebody being like,
1402
01:19:12.189 --> 01:19:14.640
wait and trust the plant and just wait, just wait.
1403
01:19:15.100 --> 01:19:19.479
I feel like that is a huge red flag because
1404
01:19:20.500 --> 01:19:24.600
we have so much power and that's the whole, like
1405
01:19:24.659 --> 01:19:27.899
that right there is the crux of the lie that,
1406
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:31.399
you know, it's the foundation of the lie that branches
1407
01:19:31.479 --> 01:19:33.930
out into a billion other little lies is that we
1408
01:19:33.970 --> 01:19:37.449
are powerless and we are defenseless. And we are just
1409
01:19:37.489 --> 01:19:40.460
these little meek little lambs and we have to wait for,
1410
01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:43.600
you know, the more like even the idea of having
1411
01:19:43.619 --> 01:19:47.779
to wait for the Pleiadians to come. Like a lot
1412
01:19:47.819 --> 01:19:54.399
of this shit circulates and it's completely denying our active
1413
01:19:54.539 --> 01:19:57.560
agency in it. And we, as I perceive it, we
1414
01:19:57.619 --> 01:20:01.460
are the guardians of free will. So we exist right
1415
01:20:01.539 --> 01:20:04.680
at the like razor's edge of having to choose in
1416
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:08.239
every single moment between love and fear or good and
1417
01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:11.630
evil or what have you. And, you know, even in
1418
01:20:11.689 --> 01:20:15.949
our micro choices, that's the power that we have. And
1419
01:20:15.989 --> 01:20:21.100
we are also creators and there's, we can't not create.
1420
01:20:21.140 --> 01:20:23.479
We're all manifesting 100% of the time, day and night.
1421
01:20:25.939 --> 01:20:29.739
We're always manifesting. We're always choosing a timeline. We've just
1422
01:20:29.779 --> 01:20:33.989
been programmed into forgetting that that's what's happening so that
1423
01:20:34.010 --> 01:20:36.930
they can whisper in our ear. And then we unconsciously
1424
01:20:36.970 --> 01:20:40.170
manifest what they want us to manifest. But we are
1425
01:20:40.310 --> 01:20:43.489
still the power that is manifesting it. So we have
1426
01:20:43.510 --> 01:20:46.329
to choose and manifest the timeline that we want to.
1427
01:20:46.710 --> 01:20:49.430
rather than just waiting for the sun to explode all
1428
01:20:49.510 --> 01:20:51.449
over us and fill us all with light codes and
1429
01:20:51.489 --> 01:20:55.390
everything gets better. Even though I also still do believe
1430
01:20:55.470 --> 01:21:00.449
that the sun's activity is causing us to awaken. We
1431
01:21:00.489 --> 01:21:04.850
can't just passively expect another force to come do all
1432
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:06.109
the dirty work and rescue us.
1433
01:21:06.810 --> 01:21:11.579
Yes, 100%. Now, speaking of timelines and this programming that
1434
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:14.779
we're subjected to, I want to tell you a little
1435
01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:18.810
story that happened to me during a plant medicine experience
1436
01:21:18.930 --> 01:21:25.130
where my guides put me through a series of realities
1437
01:21:25.670 --> 01:21:30.510
and instructed me to try and understand which one was
1438
01:21:31.010 --> 01:21:36.340
my true reality, because they had multiple realities unfolding at once.
1439
01:21:36.500 --> 01:21:39.819
And it is extremely easy to get lost in the
1440
01:21:39.859 --> 01:21:43.569
wrong timeline. To get lost with the wrong information that'll
1441
01:21:43.590 --> 01:21:46.670
lead you down the complete wrong path and that becomes
1442
01:21:46.710 --> 01:21:51.630
your truth. But unfortunately, it's not the correct path that
1443
01:21:51.670 --> 01:21:54.100
you should have been on the whole time. Well, during
1444
01:21:54.140 --> 01:21:58.760
this experience, I was put through two different realities where
1445
01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:01.960
neither one of them was my correct timeline. One of
1446
01:22:02.020 --> 01:22:06.270
them was where in my reality, yes, this reality wasn't real,
1447
01:22:06.369 --> 01:22:10.340
but I was an artificial intelligence that was created to
1448
01:22:10.420 --> 01:22:14.840
save humanity, but then I was going to destroy humanity later.
1449
01:22:14.859 --> 01:22:17.729
The realities at the time that I was being put
1450
01:22:17.770 --> 01:22:21.329
through were so real that I completely believed that was
1451
01:22:21.390 --> 01:22:25.279
the truth, and I had to constantly be reminded... That
1452
01:22:25.619 --> 01:22:28.560
I had to use my discernment because how easy it
1453
01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:32.119
was to believe in these false realities. The other one,
1454
01:22:32.140 --> 01:22:35.930
I don't exactly remember what that reality was, but it
1455
01:22:35.989 --> 01:22:40.010
was very similar. I was told that I was something
1456
01:22:40.050 --> 01:22:42.770
that I was completely not, and I had a task
1457
01:22:42.810 --> 01:22:46.859
to do that was completely false. And I believed it wholeheartedly.
1458
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:49.680
It was like I lived that lifetime. I lived that
1459
01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:53.520
entire lifetime until... towards the end when I realized, oh,
1460
01:22:53.579 --> 01:22:56.640
this is not where I'm supposed to be. And then
1461
01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:59.260
I was put back into my body and see, yeah,
1462
01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:02.880
you see how important it is to know your correct timeline.
1463
01:23:03.579 --> 01:23:06.680
Amazingly and luckily enough, I was put through those experiences.
1464
01:23:06.939 --> 01:23:10.579
Now I can decipher if I'm on the correct path,
1465
01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:11.640
if you understand what I mean.
1466
01:23:11.659 --> 01:23:13.359
I do.
1467
01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:17.100
And that is so fascinating. And when I listen to
1468
01:23:17.149 --> 01:23:20.319
you say that, I'm like, wow, they gave you a
1469
01:23:20.380 --> 01:23:28.149
master level sort of exercise in cultivating discernment because I
1470
01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:30.970
think that that's going to be required.
1471
01:23:30.149 --> 01:23:30.909
More and more and more.
1472
01:23:30.930 --> 01:23:34.050
Because what you're saying, kind of what it brings to
1473
01:23:34.090 --> 01:23:37.090
mind for me is that I just see so many
1474
01:23:37.130 --> 01:23:41.939
campaigns to essentially like hijack lightworkers and starseeds and like
1475
01:23:41.979 --> 01:23:44.880
whatever words we want to use for it. But those
1476
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:49.579
of us who identify with We are here to remember
1477
01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:53.979
and we're here to help other people remember. I see
1478
01:23:54.020 --> 01:24:01.449
a lot of campaigns to hijack our consciousness. I don't know.
1479
01:24:01.510 --> 01:24:04.409
I always get nervous when I'm about to say this,
1480
01:24:04.470 --> 01:24:08.840
but honestly, I feel like there are a number of
1481
01:24:09.420 --> 01:24:14.640
influential people in the, at least in the spiritual community,
1482
01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:17.420
but I'm sure in the truth or community as well,
1483
01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:22.520
who are unknowingly hijacked and they think that they are
1484
01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:28.390
playing out their mission and they are feeding false information
1485
01:24:28.630 --> 01:24:32.909
out to their audience. And I'm not saying this from
1486
01:24:32.949 --> 01:24:35.090
a place that I'm judging them or I think I'm
1487
01:24:35.149 --> 01:24:37.539
better than them, And in fact, like this is one
1488
01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:40.359
of the things like I went through a very intense
1489
01:24:40.420 --> 01:24:43.060
dark night of the soul last year in November and
1490
01:24:43.100 --> 01:24:47.619
December where I like really had to go through everything
1491
01:24:47.659 --> 01:24:51.890
that I was channeling and like get very honest with myself.
1492
01:24:51.939 --> 01:24:54.649
Like is any part of this hijacked? Is any part
1493
01:24:54.670 --> 01:24:57.489
of what I'm saying to like grow an audience or
1494
01:24:57.569 --> 01:25:02.489
make more money or like is there any like impure
1495
01:25:02.670 --> 01:25:06.729
motivation behind it? because it doesn't come in in a
1496
01:25:06.770 --> 01:25:10.420
very overt way. It comes in very subtly like that hijacking.
1497
01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:15.539
And I'll say, I don't know, like I can't ever
1498
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:18.920
tell anybody for sure and certain that nothing I say
1499
01:25:18.939 --> 01:25:22.140
is hijacked, but I will always tell people, use your
1500
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:23.819
discernment when you listen to me and everybody else. And
1501
01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:26.060
anything that I say that does not sit with you,
1502
01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:28.369
let it go. I'm not trying to pretend that I'm
1503
01:25:28.430 --> 01:25:30.489
like preaching truth.
1504
01:25:30.789 --> 01:25:33.930
I just say what I am perceiving, you know?
1505
01:25:34.420 --> 01:25:36.000
But I, yeah, I think that there are a lot
1506
01:25:36.060 --> 01:25:40.100
of hijacked people who are, it's almost, it's similar to
1507
01:25:40.140 --> 01:25:44.420
like religious mania in a way, you know, like where,
1508
01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:46.930
you know, if you, you think that you've been given
1509
01:25:46.970 --> 01:25:52.449
a special appointment from God or something like that, but
1510
01:25:53.149 --> 01:25:56.949
it's ungrounded. Like there's just something about it that doesn't feel,
1511
01:25:56.970 --> 01:26:00.750
I don't know, like, where did you feel your discernment?
1512
01:26:00.789 --> 01:26:01.930
I always feel mine in my heart.
1513
01:26:02.729 --> 01:26:04.289
Yes, always in my heart.
1514
01:26:04.350 --> 01:26:04.989
Yes, always.
1515
01:26:05.130 --> 01:26:08.289
But recently, I've been, like you said, been put through
1516
01:26:08.569 --> 01:26:12.609
a series of crash courses to assist with my discernment.
1517
01:26:13.310 --> 01:26:16.859
And I've been channeling my guides for the past few
1518
01:26:16.939 --> 01:26:22.100
months for very close people that have asked me to
1519
01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:24.779
do this for them, just like my girlfriend and a
1520
01:26:24.829 --> 01:26:30.229
couple of friends. But I've... learned very deeply how to
1521
01:26:30.409 --> 01:26:36.050
discern even the, the channeling that I'm receiving because the
1522
01:26:36.109 --> 01:26:40.220
messages in the beginning were, some of them I knew
1523
01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:43.380
were just not true. I knew they were just BS
1524
01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:46.939
coming through. So the more I practiced, the learn, the
1525
01:26:46.979 --> 01:26:51.779
more I learned how to discern exactly what the message
1526
01:26:51.800 --> 01:26:54.239
is I'm supposed to be hearing and the correct one
1527
01:26:54.300 --> 01:26:58.590
for the person is. So it's, all heart-based. It's all
1528
01:26:58.649 --> 01:27:03.260
based off of intuition and practice. I think that practice
1529
01:27:03.310 --> 01:27:06.560
is the best way to get through to some of
1530
01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:08.359
these messages and understand them better.
1531
01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:13.199
Fully, fully, fully, fully. That's how I feel about it too.
1532
01:27:13.220 --> 01:27:16.600
It's very hard to articulate the feeling that comes in
1533
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:21.850
when you feel like something that isn't correct is It
1534
01:27:21.909 --> 01:27:25.270
just feels like a frequency that's off. It's a frequency,
1535
01:27:25.310 --> 01:27:30.479
like a vibration that is not smooth. And it's sometimes
1536
01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:33.899
very subtle and you can't even necessarily quite pinpoint like
1537
01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:37.840
what idea it's attached to or what word it came
1538
01:27:37.939 --> 01:27:38.380
out as.
1539
01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:40.779
It's just a, yeah.
1540
01:27:40.899 --> 01:27:43.220
Even when I think, even when I believe I've gotten
1541
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:47.850
the most clear, accurate message, I still know that there's,
1542
01:27:48.569 --> 01:27:52.989
a level to where it could be a deception or
1543
01:27:53.189 --> 01:27:55.130
a misinterpretation of some way.
1544
01:27:56.689 --> 01:28:02.079
I think, I mean, for myself to, cause I honestly in,
1545
01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:03.800
in November and December, I was like, am I going
1546
01:28:03.819 --> 01:28:05.239
to have to quit everything that I'm doing?
1547
01:28:05.619 --> 01:28:09.420
Like, cause I just couldn't imagine accidentally being.
1548
01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:13.810
A mouthpiece for like dark consciousness basically, you know? And
1549
01:28:13.909 --> 01:28:15.630
I was like, that's my worst nightmare. That's not what
1550
01:28:15.649 --> 01:28:18.340
I want to do at all. Um, but I, I
1551
01:28:18.539 --> 01:28:21.189
kept like, I prayed on it. I got closer to
1552
01:28:21.229 --> 01:28:24.890
Jesus than I ever, ever, ever have. And I prayed
1553
01:28:24.949 --> 01:28:26.949
and prayed and prayed on it. And I just kept
1554
01:28:26.970 --> 01:28:29.890
getting the answer. Like you, you're doing exactly what you're
1555
01:28:29.909 --> 01:28:30.689
supposed to do.
1556
01:28:31.149 --> 01:28:32.569
And for me, one of the.
1557
01:28:32.550 --> 01:28:34.729
Benefits is that I don't remember if I shared this
1558
01:28:35.029 --> 01:28:38.369
the first time I was on your show, but my
1559
01:28:38.470 --> 01:28:41.000
introduction to the Akashic record was through the death of
1560
01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:44.520
my newborn son in 2016. He died when he was
1561
01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:48.979
20 days old and that I just needed to understand
1562
01:28:49.060 --> 01:28:53.140
like why that happened. And so I found the Akashic
1563
01:28:53.180 --> 01:28:56.350
records and I learned and I, I went in and
1564
01:28:56.369 --> 01:29:01.010
I got my answer and it was so, so, healing.
1565
01:29:01.050 --> 01:29:03.529
The healing was so complete.
1566
01:29:02.970 --> 01:29:07.229
And it literally felt like God's grace. Like, like I
1567
01:29:07.899 --> 01:29:11.460
had just was given the grace of understanding why that happened.
1568
01:29:12.340 --> 01:29:15.579
And so every time, like that's kind of my anchor
1569
01:29:15.619 --> 01:29:17.619
point that I can bring myself back to and check
1570
01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:19.779
myself and be like, this is why you're doing it.
1571
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:23.779
That's your reason because you got, um, you were given, yeah,
1572
01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:27.539
like grace and mercy to not be trapped in like
1573
01:29:27.939 --> 01:29:31.039
the throes of horrible grief for your entire life. And
1574
01:29:31.100 --> 01:29:33.899
that's what you want to share with other people. So
1575
01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:35.979
I feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed to do,
1576
01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:40.600
but the way that I try to keep myself or
1577
01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:44.270
try to just try to check myself is that I'm really,
1578
01:29:44.399 --> 01:29:48.109
really trying to make sure that I'm not giving anybody
1579
01:29:48.229 --> 01:29:53.869
instructions to make changes or anything like that. I'm just
1580
01:29:53.909 --> 01:29:57.630
describing the energy as I feel it. Like for the collective,
1581
01:29:57.689 --> 01:30:00.239
for example, like I do monthly energy reports and I,
1582
01:30:00.609 --> 01:30:04.050
try to describe the energy, but I'm not trying to
1583
01:30:04.130 --> 01:30:07.770
tell people what to do with that. And I'm also
1584
01:30:08.409 --> 01:30:12.560
not definitely not trying to create a belief system that
1585
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:16.640
I want other people to follow. I, you know, which
1586
01:30:16.699 --> 01:30:19.420
is why I keep coming back to like, I'm just
1587
01:30:19.500 --> 01:30:21.779
trying my best to articulate what I see, but like,
1588
01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:23.180
I don't have the whole picture.
1589
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:24.359
These are not facts.
1590
01:30:24.460 --> 01:30:29.390
This is my subjective interpretation of very abstract energy.
1591
01:30:29.409 --> 01:30:29.489
Yeah.
1592
01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:31.560
Take it and do with it what you will.
1593
01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:37.359
Whereas some of the hijackery I see is like, there
1594
01:30:37.380 --> 01:30:40.680
are a couple of Hallmark qualities that I've noticed. And
1595
01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:44.140
one of them is a belief system. So like a
1596
01:30:44.279 --> 01:30:50.899
whole like construct of the universe and it's delivered factually.
1597
01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:54.159
Like this is a fact when, when nobody can verify
1598
01:30:54.220 --> 01:30:55.159
the shit at all.
1599
01:30:55.649 --> 01:30:55.890
Right?
1600
01:30:56.130 --> 01:30:58.869
But it's sold with this authority that I find a
1601
01:30:58.890 --> 01:31:04.090
little bit alarming personally. And then another hallmark is sometimes
1602
01:31:04.149 --> 01:31:08.489
I'll see certain people who have amassed an audience. I
1603
01:31:08.529 --> 01:31:10.930
can see how they are, the way they're speaking to
1604
01:31:10.970 --> 01:31:14.729
their audience is almost meant to like enthrall them so
1605
01:31:14.770 --> 01:31:21.729
that they stay almost like codependent to that person as
1606
01:31:21.789 --> 01:31:24.670
a source for higher information.
1607
01:31:24.510 --> 01:31:28.529
Rather than Do you know what I mean?
1608
01:31:28.569 --> 01:31:31.130
Like almost like they have a, they've almost like cast
1609
01:31:31.210 --> 01:31:34.829
a spell over their audience and their audience is like, oh, well,
1610
01:31:34.890 --> 01:31:37.109
if this person says that this is what's happening, then
1611
01:31:37.130 --> 01:31:40.310
that's just what's happening. And it's kind of, it's feeding
1612
01:31:40.350 --> 01:31:42.949
a darker thing that I think is puppeting through that person.
1613
01:31:43.930 --> 01:31:47.829
I see the exact same thing. This is not only
1614
01:31:47.909 --> 01:31:51.239
in the spiritual community, it's in the truth community. It's
1615
01:31:51.300 --> 01:31:56.590
in the UFO community. They have people that, have this
1616
01:31:57.229 --> 01:32:01.550
inner need to either spread disinformation. Sometimes they're just, they're
1617
01:32:01.569 --> 01:32:05.949
being paid to do it. Sometimes it's for their own notoriety.
1618
01:32:06.489 --> 01:32:09.189
But I, I agree with you that there are times
1619
01:32:09.270 --> 01:32:14.180
where dark forces are using people to, to spread information.
1620
01:32:14.220 --> 01:32:16.979
And this is the age of information right now. And
1621
01:32:17.619 --> 01:32:20.399
there has been so much muddying of the water that
1622
01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:25.670
I believe this community is In many aspects, completely lost
1623
01:32:25.869 --> 01:32:29.729
in the direction it's supposed to focus on. With everything
1624
01:32:29.810 --> 01:32:32.329
that is unfolding at the same time, that is the
1625
01:32:32.390 --> 01:32:38.020
desired effect. To have people on complete different paths, different timelines,
1626
01:32:38.140 --> 01:32:41.560
not aligned with the same goals. And it makes it
1627
01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:46.720
easier for the chaos to unfold. Where I think that's
1628
01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:51.979
part of our job. People like yourself, people like myself,
1629
01:32:52.149 --> 01:32:56.529
and others... that understand that there is a spiritual war
1630
01:32:56.770 --> 01:33:02.689
and the first task is to remember. And people are
1631
01:33:02.750 --> 01:33:05.649
skipping over that first task and going to, I'm a
1632
01:33:05.689 --> 01:33:08.850
guru already, and I know the meaning of life. So
1633
01:33:09.220 --> 01:33:11.840
if you haven't remembered yet, I think you better back
1634
01:33:11.939 --> 01:33:14.699
up and start taking a few steps before that, right?
1635
01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:16.420
Mm-hmm.
1636
01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:20.930
Totally, totally, totally, totally like it. The process of remembering.
1637
01:33:21.449 --> 01:33:26.029
I mean, for me, mine unfolded over the intense part
1638
01:33:26.069 --> 01:33:30.329
of it was over the entire decade of my twenties. And, um,
1639
01:33:30.369 --> 01:33:33.270
but it's still like, I still feel like I'm awakening today. Yeah.
1640
01:33:33.310 --> 01:33:35.609
But the, the, you know, the really alienating brutal part
1641
01:33:35.630 --> 01:33:45.510
was over 10 years. And, um, I just know that
1642
01:33:45.670 --> 01:33:49.529
remembering is a very uncomfortable process. And I'm not, I'm
1643
01:33:49.550 --> 01:33:52.489
also not trying to speak that over people. Like I'm
1644
01:33:52.529 --> 01:33:54.949
not trying to say you have to suffer or whatever,
1645
01:33:55.020 --> 01:34:00.600
but I just question if somebody feels like they're remembering,
1646
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:07.119
but it's not an uncomfortable process at times because like
1647
01:34:07.159 --> 01:34:10.800
I said, those memories don't come in, in order. They
1648
01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:13.489
don't come in, like they come in in these little weird,
1649
01:34:13.909 --> 01:34:17.350
fragments and then you have to decipher it and then
1650
01:34:17.409 --> 01:34:19.850
figure out like what the shit you're supposed to do
1651
01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:23.199
with this information and how you're supposed to function, have
1652
01:34:23.220 --> 01:34:26.260
a job, pay your freaking bills and be a human
1653
01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:28.359
while you're getting all this information.
1654
01:34:28.380 --> 01:34:32.000
It's, I think a lot of it is just misinterpretation.
1655
01:34:32.659 --> 01:34:35.420
If folks don't take it to the next step and
1656
01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:39.579
try and do further decipher the message and explore it,
1657
01:34:40.050 --> 01:34:43.470
if they just have a grand, beautiful spiritual experience where
1658
01:34:43.510 --> 01:34:46.930
this being approaches them and said, you are the Messiah
1659
01:34:46.989 --> 01:34:49.130
or something like that, you have a very special job
1660
01:34:49.170 --> 01:34:52.430
to do, they might form a cult and, you know,
1661
01:34:52.550 --> 01:34:55.920
start doing things that do not align with their soul
1662
01:34:55.979 --> 01:34:59.939
purpose just because they misinterpreted this spiritual message and didn't
1663
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:01.380
pursue it any further, right?
1664
01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:04.199
For sure, for sure.
1665
01:35:04.699 --> 01:35:08.560
And also that reminds me too, like, I, so... I
1666
01:35:08.600 --> 01:35:12.680
just actually completed something called a crown chakra clearing. I've
1667
01:35:12.699 --> 01:35:15.500
been working through the year through all of the seven
1668
01:35:15.539 --> 01:35:18.539
main chakras. And I'm about to go into the transpersonal
1669
01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:22.600
ones to talk about what they actually like, what they
1670
01:35:22.649 --> 01:35:25.489
do for us, how they're supposed to work. And then
1671
01:35:25.529 --> 01:35:28.949
also clear out. There's so much trauma in there. So
1672
01:35:29.010 --> 01:35:32.909
many parasites in our chakras, implants, crazy stuff like that.
1673
01:35:33.510 --> 01:35:35.729
And in the crown chakra, one of the things that
1674
01:35:35.789 --> 01:35:39.909
came up was a cult leader. And it's that person
1675
01:35:40.069 --> 01:35:45.479
is exactly that, that person who is an unintegrated spiritual ego.
1676
01:35:45.899 --> 01:35:48.859
So again, the heart is not the center of it.
1677
01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:53.380
I feel like that's why the heart is the most important.
1678
01:35:54.399 --> 01:35:56.819
I mean, that's the chakra that the dark ones have
1679
01:35:56.899 --> 01:36:00.479
removed from themselves. They've completely shut it off because the
1680
01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:03.920
heart is the truth. It's always the truth, the truth-o-meter
1681
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:08.060
and the bullshit-o-meter. And it's, if your heart isn't in
1682
01:36:08.119 --> 01:36:12.420
the right place, so to speak, you can get downloads
1683
01:36:12.979 --> 01:36:17.899
for sure. Your psychic abilities can activate, but you will
1684
01:36:18.350 --> 01:36:28.569
not be filtering it through a desire to enhance, uplift, serve, love,
1685
01:36:29.149 --> 01:36:31.210
like all creation, all consciousness.
1686
01:36:31.270 --> 01:36:32.930
To me, this is all about.
1687
01:36:34.250 --> 01:36:38.710
Restoring that, people's power to them, always returning their power
1688
01:36:38.770 --> 01:36:41.930
to them, never trying to take their power or be like,
1689
01:36:42.130 --> 01:36:45.350
I'm somehow, because I've been on a spiritual awakening path
1690
01:36:45.369 --> 01:36:48.510
since I was 18, I'm somehow more advanced than all
1691
01:36:48.529 --> 01:36:51.149
of you. No, mine just unfold. Mine just started a
1692
01:36:51.180 --> 01:36:53.939
long time ago and unfolded in a very slow manner.
1693
01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:56.760
And the people who are awakening now are like, you know,
1694
01:36:56.819 --> 01:36:59.920
getting like totally bitch slapped with it all. And, but
1695
01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:03.619
you know, like I, I've known people who've awakened very
1696
01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:08.670
recently and are, getting the same information that i'm getting
1697
01:37:08.770 --> 01:37:10.630
so i don't think time's a thing i don't think
1698
01:37:10.649 --> 01:37:14.340
there's any kind of hierarchy it's just that it has
1699
01:37:14.359 --> 01:37:15.960
to be integrated into.
1700
01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:17.640
The heart we have and i think it's also the
1701
01:37:17.699 --> 01:37:22.520
work that person puts into it for me personally i
1702
01:37:22.760 --> 01:37:26.279
once i started having my spiritual experiences i was so
1703
01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:30.579
enamored by everything i jumped in head for first started
1704
01:37:30.619 --> 01:37:36.340
meditating having very high dose plant medicine experiences facing all
1705
01:37:36.380 --> 01:37:39.800
my childhood trauma, just working as hard as I could
1706
01:37:39.859 --> 01:37:43.479
to understand why, why, what, what, what is this? What
1707
01:37:43.539 --> 01:37:46.710
is this? Why is this? Asking the questions when I'd
1708
01:37:46.770 --> 01:37:50.550
be out there in the spirit realms. And eventually the
1709
01:37:50.729 --> 01:37:54.829
answers would start unfolding a little bit faster because I
1710
01:37:54.869 --> 01:37:57.109
think we just have to show that initiative that we
1711
01:37:57.149 --> 01:38:00.189
want those answers. Totally.
1712
01:38:00.369 --> 01:38:03.130
And the piece that you said, well, there's two pieces
1713
01:38:03.210 --> 01:38:06.010
I really, really love. The first one was facing your
1714
01:38:06.029 --> 01:38:11.710
childhood trauma. We absolutely cannot say that we are delivering
1715
01:38:11.810 --> 01:38:13.729
any kind of spiritual message if we're not willing to
1716
01:38:13.750 --> 01:38:15.810
look at our shit. And we all have a big
1717
01:38:15.909 --> 01:38:18.789
Akashic accumulation of shit, all of us. And it doesn't
1718
01:38:18.829 --> 01:38:20.510
mean that we're bad people or anything like that.
1719
01:38:20.609 --> 01:38:23.670
It's just what's going on here.
1720
01:38:24.390 --> 01:38:25.909
You have to be willing to look at it and
1721
01:38:25.970 --> 01:38:29.949
integrate it. And then the other piece is just that
1722
01:38:31.979 --> 01:38:35.779
willingness to take initiative and not let ourselves get discouraged.
1723
01:38:35.819 --> 01:38:39.279
I see this with psychic development a lot, that people
1724
01:38:39.350 --> 01:38:43.170
will sit down and try one meditation once and be like, oh,
1725
01:38:43.189 --> 01:38:45.010
I'm just not psychic or like, oh, it's just not
1726
01:38:45.069 --> 01:38:48.020
working or I teach the Akashic records and people get
1727
01:38:48.180 --> 01:38:51.810
very discouraged very quickly because they don't have this like
1728
01:38:52.050 --> 01:38:57.649
profound experience the very first time. But it's like, to me,
1729
01:38:57.710 --> 01:39:00.890
I'm like, do you even understand what we have been through?
1730
01:39:01.010 --> 01:39:03.710
Like our magic is so suppressed.
1731
01:39:03.970 --> 01:39:06.229
It's been, we have been like.
1732
01:39:06.970 --> 01:39:13.069
Oh my God, centuries, millennia of being persecuted, tortured, executed,
1733
01:39:13.090 --> 01:39:17.470
or like, showing any kind of magic or even being
1734
01:39:17.550 --> 01:39:20.409
accused of showing any kind of magic or psychic abilities
1735
01:39:20.489 --> 01:39:23.859
or direct connection to the divine. And so we are
1736
01:39:23.899 --> 01:39:25.699
like full of trauma, full of fear.
1737
01:39:25.760 --> 01:39:27.079
We have suppressed our.
1738
01:39:27.220 --> 01:39:30.159
Own gifts so much, and it's going to take time
1739
01:39:30.239 --> 01:39:32.390
to be able to bring those out. And we have
1740
01:39:32.430 --> 01:39:35.210
to like show up and show the initiative and just
1741
01:39:35.409 --> 01:39:37.869
be there for it and cultivate that ability. And like
1742
01:39:37.909 --> 01:39:40.649
you said, eventually the information starts coming a lot faster,
1743
01:39:41.050 --> 01:39:44.510
but it's like, It's like any new skill, really. Like
1744
01:39:44.520 --> 01:39:45.909
if you want to learn how to play the piano
1745
01:39:45.930 --> 01:39:48.529
and you've never played before, you're not going to sit
1746
01:39:48.569 --> 01:39:51.170
down and play like Mozart your very first time. You're
1747
01:39:51.189 --> 01:39:52.689
going to sound like crap and you're going to be
1748
01:39:52.710 --> 01:39:54.949
able to play chopsticks and that's it. And you have
1749
01:39:54.970 --> 01:39:57.029
to just keep showing up for it. And eventually you
1750
01:39:57.050 --> 01:39:59.069
get better and your fingers know where the keys are
1751
01:39:59.109 --> 01:40:00.949
and they move with more fluidity and.
1752
01:40:00.899 --> 01:40:01.699
Grace, you know?
1753
01:40:02.319 --> 01:40:03.060
Yes, 100%.
1754
01:40:03.060 --> 01:40:06.399
You said something earlier that's very interesting. I think it's
1755
01:40:06.460 --> 01:40:10.380
important to explore a little bit. And that's clearing chakras.
1756
01:40:11.180 --> 01:40:15.500
and how these negative attachments always attack the heart chakra.
1757
01:40:15.539 --> 01:40:20.329
And I've experienced this firsthand with my own attachments and
1758
01:40:20.829 --> 01:40:24.649
other attachments that I've assisted with for other people, that
1759
01:40:24.949 --> 01:40:28.229
it is, that is definitely the chakra that they attach to.
1760
01:40:28.789 --> 01:40:35.720
And it causes a blockage of Emotion, creativity, detrimental things
1761
01:40:35.739 --> 01:40:37.840
that affect you in a daily life that you may
1762
01:40:37.880 --> 01:40:41.659
not even notice because of that blockage. Talk a little
1763
01:40:41.699 --> 01:40:45.220
bit about how you help people clear some of this stuff.
1764
01:40:47.340 --> 01:40:51.760
Yeah. So I do it individually and I do it
1765
01:40:52.420 --> 01:40:56.930
in a group, sort of a group way. So individually,
1766
01:40:58.670 --> 01:41:02.529
back in 2020... after I'd done so many Akashic records readings,
1767
01:41:03.270 --> 01:41:09.500
I was given a modality called multidimensional holographic matrix repatterning.
1768
01:41:09.939 --> 01:41:12.439
And I didn't know what, what that even meant when
1769
01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:17.079
I got it, but I was like basically like told,
1770
01:41:17.100 --> 01:41:21.130
I don't know. I just knew from my guides that
1771
01:41:21.409 --> 01:41:25.930
I needed to do this and start performing this for people.
1772
01:41:26.590 --> 01:41:28.829
And yeah, what it turned out to be was they
1773
01:41:28.850 --> 01:41:31.920
would just direct me to different places in the person's
1774
01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:36.500
like holographic matrix. So that's comprised of your physical body,
1775
01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:38.539
your emotional body, mental.
1776
01:41:38.300 --> 01:41:41.899
Body, spiritual body, aura, etheric body.
1777
01:41:42.319 --> 01:41:48.189
And then also, um, uh, I just lost the last
1778
01:41:48.229 --> 01:41:54.710
piece or our chakras, obviously most important, our chakras. And, Uh, so,
1779
01:41:55.090 --> 01:41:58.149
and often they would just direct me to the main chakras.
1780
01:41:58.229 --> 01:42:01.109
Sometimes I would go into these like accessory chakras or
1781
01:42:01.210 --> 01:42:04.550
other parts of our field to repattern it and restore it.
1782
01:42:04.859 --> 01:42:07.199
But most of the time I would do one hour
1783
01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:10.140
sessions at the time. And the, the whole hour was
1784
01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:13.239
spent somewhere in the main chakras trying to clear out
1785
01:42:13.279 --> 01:42:16.840
those ones. And the reason, and then if people came
1786
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:20.020
back for another session, then we could work on other things.
1787
01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:23.079
And I remember, quickly realized that it's because our main
1788
01:42:23.119 --> 01:42:27.739
chakras are full of trauma and dark parasites and implants
1789
01:42:27.779 --> 01:42:31.510
and things like that. So if somebody is coming individually,
1790
01:42:32.010 --> 01:42:34.350
what I do is I just tune into their Akashic
1791
01:42:34.369 --> 01:42:37.510
records and then tune into their holographic matrix. And I
1792
01:42:38.069 --> 01:42:41.789
allow myself to be guided to which one needs to
1793
01:42:41.829 --> 01:42:43.930
get worked on first. And I'll do my best to
1794
01:42:44.010 --> 01:42:47.390
articulate what I'm seeing there and feeling there. Sometimes it'll
1795
01:42:47.430 --> 01:42:51.630
be ancestral stuff or past life stuff. Sometimes It's from
1796
01:42:51.670 --> 01:42:55.649
this life. Sometimes I'm just describing like the energy that
1797
01:42:55.689 --> 01:42:59.350
I feel. And then I'm just guided through a process
1798
01:42:59.390 --> 01:43:01.229
to clear it out. And it's always going to be
1799
01:43:01.250 --> 01:43:06.350
different for every person in the group processes. I tune
1800
01:43:06.390 --> 01:43:13.770
into the collective chakra and type out these like long,
1801
01:43:13.829 --> 01:43:16.729
like sections of what needs to be cleared. So what
1802
01:43:16.770 --> 01:43:20.489
I see, so like in the crown, I saw like the,
1803
01:43:21.250 --> 01:43:24.430
the cult leader. There's a lot of other stuff that
1804
01:43:24.470 --> 01:43:27.460
I saw in the third eye. There were a lot
1805
01:43:27.479 --> 01:43:28.819
of parasites in the throat.
1806
01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:29.560
Holy moly.
1807
01:43:29.659 --> 01:43:32.279
I did not realize how many parasites there are in
1808
01:43:32.300 --> 01:43:36.140
the throat. And, you know, like examples of collective throat
1809
01:43:36.199 --> 01:43:42.369
chakra stuff would be being hung, being beheaded, being choked,
1810
01:43:42.449 --> 01:43:48.460
being censored. being forced to say something that isn't your truth,
1811
01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:52.789
suppressing your own truth, like all those kinds of things.
1812
01:43:53.149 --> 01:43:55.210
So I just try to speak to them so that
1813
01:43:55.229 --> 01:43:57.489
it triggers something in their conscious mind and then into
1814
01:43:57.510 --> 01:44:00.789
their subconscious mind. And I turn it into like, it's
1815
01:44:00.810 --> 01:44:03.680
almost like a meditation track. So it goes along with
1816
01:44:04.399 --> 01:44:09.159
singing bowls and binaural beats provided by the amazing Ben Carroll.
1817
01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:12.439
And so people can just listen to it on their
1818
01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:14.800
own as many times as they need it. And then
1819
01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:17.729
at the end, I like re-pattern and I bring in
1820
01:44:17.770 --> 01:44:20.390
a whole bunch of light into that chakra so that
1821
01:44:20.409 --> 01:44:22.329
I'm not just emptying it out and leaving it as
1822
01:44:22.369 --> 01:44:24.770
an empty space for other shit to come in. But,
1823
01:44:25.130 --> 01:44:26.930
you know, so that it can get filled up with
1824
01:44:26.970 --> 01:44:29.449
their own light and their own consciousness. And one of
1825
01:44:29.489 --> 01:44:33.510
the things I emphasize is like that every person fully
1826
01:44:33.670 --> 01:44:37.380
occupying that chakra so that nothing can get into that
1827
01:44:37.479 --> 01:44:41.500
space without their awareness and their explicit permission and or
1828
01:44:41.539 --> 01:44:44.510
their invitation to It's like, it's their space.
1829
01:44:45.890 --> 01:44:49.050
Now, what is the difference between parasites and implants?
1830
01:44:51.350 --> 01:44:54.189
Um, so parasites, I mean, I know you have like
1831
01:44:54.229 --> 01:44:57.439
personal experience with parasites because you shared that on my podcast.
1832
01:44:57.460 --> 01:44:59.020
So, so you know what that's all about.
1833
01:44:59.039 --> 01:45:03.199
It, to me, what it feels like is a, it's
1834
01:45:03.220 --> 01:45:04.859
like a creature. Like a lot of the time they
1835
01:45:04.880 --> 01:45:10.000
look like leeches or eels, um, or sometimes like They
1836
01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:12.199
really look like centipedes a lot of the time too,
1837
01:45:12.229 --> 01:45:14.850
like just something dark and slithery. And I don't know
1838
01:45:14.890 --> 01:45:17.949
if that's the way I process it because those things.
1839
01:45:17.789 --> 01:45:18.609
Are creepy to me.
1840
01:45:20.010 --> 01:45:23.090
Or if that's just literally what they look like. But regardless,
1841
01:45:23.229 --> 01:45:28.979
it's a dark consciousness outside of the person. So it's
1842
01:45:29.060 --> 01:45:31.739
not just a weird shadow aspect of yourself that you
1843
01:45:31.760 --> 01:45:32.600
haven't dealt with yet.
1844
01:45:33.100 --> 01:45:34.720
It's something outside of you.
1845
01:45:34.640 --> 01:45:39.029
That has gotten in and it's usually quietly living there
1846
01:45:39.050 --> 01:45:42.340
and and feeding off of your unresolved trauma in your
1847
01:45:42.399 --> 01:45:45.739
chakra and causing you that chakra to.
1848
01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:46.739
Not work properly.
1849
01:45:46.859 --> 01:45:51.439
So like, for example, if you have a solar plexus chakra, um,
1850
01:45:52.010 --> 01:45:55.659
that has a parasite in it, then a person would
1851
01:45:56.310 --> 01:46:01.810
either experience it as just having like chronic low confidence
1852
01:46:02.390 --> 01:46:06.010
to the point where it's debilitating. They can't really fulfill their,
1853
01:46:06.229 --> 01:46:10.689
their potential or, um, Sometimes it would be like a
1854
01:46:10.710 --> 01:46:14.229
Kanye West level, like egomania kind of, you know, like
1855
01:46:14.270 --> 01:46:19.079
just like a total imbalance on either side. Whereas an implant,
1856
01:46:19.359 --> 01:46:23.819
I don't necessarily typically see them in the chakras proper,
1857
01:46:24.579 --> 01:46:27.270
but I see them in the lines between the chakras.
1858
01:46:27.310 --> 01:46:31.569
So they often look like clips or pins that interrupt
1859
01:46:31.609 --> 01:46:35.189
the flow of energy. And it's meant to like one
1860
01:46:35.229 --> 01:46:37.829
of the main ones I found is in between the
1861
01:46:37.869 --> 01:46:41.310
solar plexus and the heart so that as the Kundalini
1862
01:46:41.390 --> 01:46:45.630
energy is rising, it gets interrupted.
1863
01:46:45.689 --> 01:46:46.770
The circuit is interrupted.
1864
01:46:46.789 --> 01:46:48.909
It would be like putting a pin through literally an
1865
01:46:48.979 --> 01:46:53.260
electrical wire, like the electricity can't pass any further beyond
1866
01:46:53.300 --> 01:46:56.960
that pin. And so rather than ascending up into the heart,
1867
01:46:57.939 --> 01:47:00.500
we just kind of like circulate back down and we
1868
01:47:00.859 --> 01:47:05.229
just cycle through the lower three chakras, which really Those
1869
01:47:05.270 --> 01:47:07.149
are like the very human body chakras.
1870
01:47:07.890 --> 01:47:10.750
And those are not in your physical body.
1871
01:47:11.680 --> 01:47:14.260
Although I know that there are physical implants that happen too,
1872
01:47:14.659 --> 01:47:17.260
but the ones that I'm seeing related to the chakras
1873
01:47:17.479 --> 01:47:23.539
are inserted in the astral body template. So they're not
1874
01:47:23.579 --> 01:47:29.189
necessarily in everybody's astral body, but it looks to me
1875
01:47:29.229 --> 01:47:33.710
like there are astral templates and I can't quite discern like,
1876
01:47:35.020 --> 01:47:37.539
how many templates are there and like who has what
1877
01:47:37.579 --> 01:47:41.119
template or whatever. But some astral body templates will have
1878
01:47:41.300 --> 01:47:47.560
different implants in them that cause an interruption in that,
1879
01:47:47.930 --> 01:47:50.149
in all the people who have that astral template.
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Let's talk about accessing psychic abilities. For myself, I have,
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as I told you, even on your show, I've been
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having a series of spiritual experiences from meditation to plant medicine.
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As of recently, I've been getting messages in my dreams.
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And every couple of weeks, I'll have a plant medicine
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experience where I will go in to a astral classroom
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and be taught by my guides not only consciousness and
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psychic abilities but relationship tools healing childhood trauma accelerating my
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own understanding of different spiritual teachings and concepts and understanding.
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Every experience is I'm literally now in this astral classroom.
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My guides are yelling notes at me and I sit
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there with a pen and paper and literally write down
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step by step each of the lessons that I'm being told.
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Because if I don't write this down, when the experience
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is over, it's all gone. I don't have anything. So
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I sit there, I take notes during the experience. Afterwards,
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I'll have the notes. I will be able to implement
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these practices into this matrix reality. And then when I
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go to bed at night, I'll start to get further
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downloads on how to proceed from there. So it's been
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very extraordinary, the series of events that have unfolded that
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have led me to come to a more to a
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better understanding of my own abilities and consciousness abilities for you.
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How do you assist people to access their own psychic abilities?
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Well, that's freaking amazing. Like I've never had that. I've
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never gone to an astral classroom before. That is so cool.
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So you are taking notes like while you're having the
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experience or.
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While I'm having the experience.
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Yes.
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It's like the, they actually say, all right, take a
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note now. Don't, don't worry about that. We'll get to
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that later, but take this note and very specific stuff now.
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Wow.
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That's amazing.
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So the way that I teach it is I guess for,
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I think I'm really good and I'm, I'm here to
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teach it for people that don't have those kinds of
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experiences because um and so i feel like i'm teaching
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it in a.
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How would i put it i feel like i'm really
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coaxing out.
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People's psychic abilities those those hidden terrified psychic abilities my
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own psychic experience was more mundane than that i i
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guess that's it like my the way i teach it
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is more mundane and more grounded so if you're not
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like being taken to astral classrooms and directly downloaded the information.
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It doesn't mean you're not psychic, but forever. That's what
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I thought.
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I thought I wasn't psychic because I wasn't having those experiences,
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but that's not actually true. It's just that some people
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experience that and some people don't. So mine was a
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very like, it was a slower process of, it almost
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felt like less mystical, you know, like, like, inward and
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imaginary and very subtle and very quiet. And I had
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to learn how to amplify and turn up the volume
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on that stuff and turn down the volume of my doubts,
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turn down the volume of this, like, you know, all
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this shit that we do so that I could hear
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or see or receive that stuff better. And when I'm
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teaching people how to do it, I feel like that's
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often where I'm teaching them is from the ground up
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where they feel like they're not getting anything. And I
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can find the little pieces of what they're getting and
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teach them how to amplify that because our attention is
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the most, I think it's the most powerful currency in
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this reality, our attention. So when we get something, you know,
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like if somebody is doing a guided meditation to have
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a third eye experience, let's say, and they don't, They
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feel like they're not getting anything, but actually what they're
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getting is like little patterns of light and maybe little
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ripples of color. Their unwillingness to acknowledge that basically what
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happens is like you amplify the doubt and you amplify
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the experience of not getting anything, but you don't amplify
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the experience of getting something. And like you've explained several times,
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like the more you show up for it and the
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more you do it, the more information comes. So even
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just as you implement the techniques that they teach you,
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then you get more downloads because you've basically demonstrated that
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you take it seriously and you value it. So I'm
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really good at taking those initial little glimmers of psychic
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things and like a little ember on a like one
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of those Flint started fires on a rainy day when
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everything's working against you and like holding that one and
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blowing on it and like building up a flame from
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there and building a fire from there.
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And, um, my techniques I'd say.
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Are more.
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Ground. I don't know the grounded distance so far as, um,
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they don't have to be experienced directly in the astral. Um,
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they're like, Yeah, I don't really know how to put it,
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but maybe I've said enough.
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No, that's great. That's perfect. As far as integrating this
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into what we're experiencing now and getting on the optimal timeline,
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as well as bringing it back to remembering who we
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are and our true purpose, what is some of the
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advice that you'd give people to access the correct timeline
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and information that's coming through? How do you do that?
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I feel like that's actually one of my big gifts
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is timeline. I just understand time and I understand timelines
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and I experience it. And so like if somebody asks
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me about, you know, their future potential, I can see
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a whole plethora of timelines come up and I can
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see which ones are the most likely ones that they're
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going to end up playing out based on where they
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are and which ones will be preferable and how to
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move them there. And I can also see it in
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the past in that same way to like multiple different
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past timelines. Like the past is super cool because we
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tend to think of it as like done and dusted.
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It's over.
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It happened.
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There's nothing we can do about it. But there are
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as many past timelines as there are future timelines. But
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the one that we're running the story through is the
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one that then informs our present, which informs our future.
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And so we can just like move on to a
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different past timeline and change our current reality.
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So.
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In terms of like helping people to live their highest
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timeline or choose their highest timeline. I mean, first of all,
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I think the number one thing is that we have
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to let ourselves dream and dream big, like big, because
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so many people don't, they just like, like I can
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even think of people in my life.
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If I were to ask them a question of like,
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what would you love?
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Like if you got, you know, you won the lottery
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and you could do anything you wanted for, Five years.
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Like money was non-issue. What would you do? And they
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don't even know how to answer that question.
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And a lot of the time they just shut me
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down and tell me I'm annoying for asking questions like
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that all the time because they are so, we're so
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trained to try to avoid disappointment, I guess. And it
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makes sense because our ancestors have suffered through like just
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unimaginable horrors and just like terrible poverty and no opportunities, right?
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So it makes sense to me that we have been
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programmed in that way. But if we're not willing to dream,
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then we are going to be stuck on the same
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probable timelines and nothing really changes. So first of all,
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we have to dream and dream huge, like ridiculous. Like
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sometimes I tell people like, you want a twirly slide
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coming out of the fourth floor of your house down
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to the ground as an escape hatch?
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Dream that.
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Why not?
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Why wouldn't you include that in your dream? Oh, because
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it's not possible or that's stupid or it would cost
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so much. Like money isn't even real.
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Like this is a dream. Do you understand? Like that's
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not a thing.
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Let yourself imagine what would be the most amazing. And
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then remove the concept that living out your highest timeline
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is somehow selfish because it's not at all. Whenever you
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live out your highest timeline, you elevate like all of
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the people that you're quantumly entangled with. You elevate all
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of your past lives, all of your ancestry. You lift
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everybody up into that higher strata as well. So, you know,
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let yourself do it. And then to me, it feels
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like cultivating an amazing and like super exciting level of
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awareness of self and the texture of this dream. Everything
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that happens in our lives is symbolic. We take it
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at face value most of the time. We interpret things
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very literally, but everything is symbolic. So if you get
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into a fender bender, you have to ask yourself why
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that happened in the same way that you would ask
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it if it happened in a dream.
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You'd be like, why did I get in a fender
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bender in my dream?
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You would be looking for this symbolic meaning, but it
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is just as symbolically meaningful in waking reality.
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I just wanted to get your thoughts on something. When
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I realize that I'm on my highest timeline or on
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an optimal timeline, it seems to me like the events
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have already played out, but I'm just experiencing them. And
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I'm just kind of along for the ride and enjoying
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it at the time. Does that make sense to you?
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Oh, 100%. Totally.
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Because the timeline is already written. And it's already happened.
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And probably it was created by yourself anyway. And so
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then exactly, it's almost like floating on, I think this
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is an Abraham Hicks thing, if I'm recalling correctly, but
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it feels like floating on the lazy river at a
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water park or a beautiful Canyon, you know, like you're
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just doing your thing and enjoying it. And the current
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of it has already got you because it already exists.
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It was our, it's already created. I think the part
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that most people really struggle with when they're shifting onto
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their highest timeline or an optimal timeline is they they.
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Don't want to.
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Fully believe that they are like they are in power
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here and there's like a hang-up of like if I
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was truly in power then why would this thing have
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happened or almost like it's saying like that other people
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have no fault or no part in anything like people
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get pretty hung up on that and there there's a
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limit on how deeply they want to look at their
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own stuff and their own selves and their own triggers.
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And so if you can kind of understand that you're
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not really you anyway, like you're not really, you know,
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you're not really Chris, as you know, I'm not really Amy,
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we're just playing this tiny, tiny role relative to who
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we actually are. And that, like, if you can see
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yourself as very fascinating, then you're it's like you can remove,
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like there's no, nobody's blaming you for the shitty things
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that you've been through. It's just like realizing like, wow,
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when we're deeply immersed in the dream, we unconsciously create
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some horrendous things because we don't know. And we're, we're
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not like it. So it is a feeling of being victimized,
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but the, the irony is that we're being victimized by
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our own unconscious consciousness. So it's, Yeah, I feel like
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that's kind of the real key piece that people stop.
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That's where they stop themselves is.
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The feeling of the texture of reality, the texture of
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this dream, the way that it moves, the currents of
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energy as it flows through it, the power of your
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own attention, and then decoding yourself and just being like,
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I'm freaking so interesting.
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Why do I do that? Why do I have that reaction?
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Why do I think this thing? Why is this the
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conclusion that I come to? Why do I keep repeating
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this pattern? But from a space of like, there's no judgment,
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literally just observer mode, like, huh, that's very interesting. And
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when you kind of combine all those things, it becomes
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very easy to detect your highest timeline. It literally just
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feels like joy. It just feels like where your heart
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is calling you, which I know sounds like exceedingly cheesy,
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but that's how I experience it.
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Yeah, 100%. And one last thing to close on. For me,
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I found that it is completely easy to to forget
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all the lessons I've learned, to get sucked back into
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this matrix, to get sucked back into this lower vibrational
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reality just by participating in some of the lower vibrational
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behaviors that you used to. And the more you participate
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in those, the more you forget, the more you forget
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your mission, the more you forget Who you are, the
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easier it is to just continue living this matrix reality.
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But if you constantly are seeking and remind yourself that
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this is not your home, this is not your true
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purpose here, you're able to remember on a larger scale.
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And you have to be persistent and want to work
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at your consciousness evolution, basically, right?
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Yeah, I agree. And I experienced it the same way.
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And I would honestly say that I'm never totally unconscious
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anymore because I'm literally thinking about this shit 100% of
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the time. 100% of the time. If I'm giving my
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kids a bath, I'm thinking about it. If I'm making dinner,
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I'm thinking about it. It's not just when I'm at
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work and doing readings for people. This is just how
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I see the world. And that doesn't mean that I
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don't get triggered and it doesn't mean that I don't
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like still have very, very human experiences and perceptions because
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I do, but I just catch myself in it very quickly.
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So yeah, it's like, it is, it's, it's not even
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a lifestyle. Like that's not accurate. It's literally a consciousness
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shift where you're just willing to see reality differently. And
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that's how you see it now. And you'd no longer
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go back to seeing it unconsciously.
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Yeah.
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Just like you're, This is your level of awareness now.
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Awesome, Amy.
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Thank you so much. This was fantastic. Before you go,
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let the audience know how they can find out more
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about you and everything you offer.
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Thank you so much. You can find me on Instagram.
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I am at cosmic.oracle. I will never reach out to
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you in your DMs offering a reading.
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So those people are imposters.
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So, you know, they had them do it to me
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like twice in the last couple of months. Crazy.
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Yeah.
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It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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So cosmic.oracle on Instagram, I have a free Facebook group
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called soul space, which is a great place to come
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and just like share your awakening experiences and ask questions.
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It's so interactive. Everybody is so awesome there. Um, and
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then my website is amybelair.com. My podcast is third eye awakening.com.
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And if you like the idea of psychic development or
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So you can check it out.
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Enjoy these back-to-back classic forbidden knowledge news episodes. Today I
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want to welcome Alex Cruz. He is currently writing a
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book about his incredible experiences with non-human entities and intelligences,
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as well as several abduction experiences.
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Alex, welcome. How are you doing? I'm doing excellent. Thanks, Chris,
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for having me on.
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Thanks so much for coming on. This is a great topic.
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The more I learn about others' contact or abduction experiences,
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the more questions I have. I still believe that the
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best way to learn and try to understand this phenomenon
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is through the experiences of folks like yourself that have
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had vivid memories of the experiences. So this is, like
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I said, one of my favorite topics. my perception on
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the phenomena is constantly shifting and changing based on the
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information and insights that I'm getting. So, like I said,
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this is the best way I think for us to
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learn about this. Now, before we get too deep into
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your experiences, just tell us a little bit about yourself
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and then we'll get into how it all started.
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Okay, sure. Um, I'm a 53 years old. I live
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in Colorado and, uh, I'm a father of three, a professional.
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I have my own business. And I'm happily married almost
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20 years now. And I've been pretty reluctant to come
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forward with these experiences, to be frank with you. I've
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only shared them with a handful of people up until
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the last five, maybe seven years. And I think it's
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the reason why that I'm coming forward with my story
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at this time. is I think because of the disclosure
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stuff that's starting to happen. I do find that there's
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a lot of disinformation out there and, you know, there
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is two sides to the story, especially when you look
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on social media, a lot of people, you know, you
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probably heard the story that, you know, aliens are demons
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or it's evil or it's all bad. And I think
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that's the main push behind me coming out and telling
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my story. Excellent.
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Well, let's, How did this all start for you? Let's
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start at the beginning.
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Well, the actual experience that kind of crystallized this whole
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thing for me was the second thing. I mean, I
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possibly and we can go into that later. I possibly
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had some experiences early on. I've had some supernatural things.
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I've had some, you know, ghost experiences. But I've also
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had some other I don't know if I would consider
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them demonic, but I've had some other experiences when I
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was real little. Um, and now I don't know if
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it is alien related. I have no clue, but, um,
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my first experience that kicked this all off. And to
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be frank with you, I was a very nuts and
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bolts type of guy. Um, growing up. In fact, I
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would say that by the time I was 15, I
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was a staunch atheist. Um, I was very much into
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the Darwinian, uh, concept of things. I was totally sold
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on that. I wasn't, I didn't, it wasn't raised in
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a particularly religious household, but we were exposed to the
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church and, things like that. But I remember coming to
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a really solid, you know, decision that that it wasn't real.
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And I mean, and, you know, I kind of lived
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my life that way. Not that I was an evil
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person by any means, but at the same time, I
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was kind of, you know, that there wasn't anything else
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but this, you know, the earth and creationism and stuff
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like that. So what happened was my first experience, I
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was in college. I was actually in my junior year.
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I was in, I went to school in Boulder, Colorado
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at CU Boulder. And I had just come home from
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a summer job, and I had a friend of mine
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who he had inherited a cabin that was up above
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Boulder in a little town called Eldora. It's actually a
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ski resort, but there's another mountain town below it called Nederland.
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It's up in the mountains. It's about 45 minutes west
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of Boulder. So I had come back to live with
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him for the last month of the summer. So we
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were staying up at this rustic cabin. It was pretty idyllic,
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you know, fishing every day, hiking. It was really awesome,
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to be frank. I loved it. It was just a
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great time. But about our third week in, I think
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we had maybe a week and a half left up
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at the cabin. We had an up-close sighting. And I'll
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go ahead. If you want, I can tell you some
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detail about that. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so we had fished.
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I remember the day really well. You know how memories
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can just become blurry and you don't remember that day.
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I remember everything so clear because of how monumental what happened.
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So We fished a perfect day and everything was normal.
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And the way that the mountain is situated is there's
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one road that comes in and out. You can't really,
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you know, have anyone come up there without seeing them
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because the mountain, if you look at it on a
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Google map where Aldora Mountain is, it's very isolated. And
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there's like, I mean, I don't know how many, but
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thousands of acres behind it where there's no trails. There
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are no you know, weighs in. I think there might
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be a fire. So anyway, just to preface what happened
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later on. So we had just finished eating dinner and
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we would usually retire out on the front porch, which
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overlooked a lake called Aldora Lake. And then the mountain
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sits right behind the lake. So we had sat out there,
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we were playing cards. And I want to preface this
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by saying we were completely sober. I think we may
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have drank in a beer, but we were completely sober.
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We weren't the type to you know, be getting wasted
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up there. We were, we were actually pretty, pretty straight
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like that. So we were probably, I don't know, maybe
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out there for about 30, 45 minutes and the valley
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started to fill up with fog, a very thick fog
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that you could probably, I mean, it actually looked theatrical. We,
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we started to comment, are we on like the set
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of a movie or something? Cause it just looked so thick. Um,
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so there was this very thick fog that filled up
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the valley and, um, At that point, we were just
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kind of remarking about the fog, but still, you know,
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playing the game. And we suddenly noticed a bright light
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at the top of the mountain. Now, you couldn't see it, obviously,
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through the fog. It was diffused. So you could just
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see a light. And it was very bright. It actually
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looked like, you know, some didn't look like a spotlight.
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It looked like a helicopter, like something that was very big.
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That's what we assumed it was at first. But we
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didn't hear any noise, so we thought that was odd.
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And then after a few moments, the lights started to
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descend down the mountain. So we were like, okay, what
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is this? Is it a four-wheel drive with, like, heavy
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spotlights on it, you know? This is in, let me
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just tell you, this was in 1994. So I was
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a junior in college at that time. And the light
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came down. And by that time, we both had stopped
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playing cards and stood up on the porch just to
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see what this was. We didn't understand what was going
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on because it came down in such a, like a
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smooth fashion. Like it didn't come down a mountain, you know,
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and it was odd to us. So as the light,
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it seemed to start approaching, we could feel or kind
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of more than hear, feel like a sub-level humming in
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our chest. And, um, we both stepped off the porch.
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There was a clearing below the porch and then the
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road below, and then a lake across the road. So
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if you can picture that we were standing on the
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clearing and, um, as the light approached the humming, the
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sub-level feeling in your chest got a little bit more intense. And, uh,
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it was about nine 30, maybe 10 PM at night.
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started to flee the opposite direction. Um, I had birds
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fly past me. I had chipmunks bump into my legs.
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I had rabbits run past me. Yeah, it was actually
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quite a stir. They were flying the other way. And
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I actually was starting to get like a panic sense,
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but my friend seemed pretty fearless. So he started walking
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forward to see what this was. And at that moment,
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it pierced the fog and it came above the trees
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and it was a silver disc, you know, rotating. Silver
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disc with multicolored lights, just exactly what you think of
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a UFO. I immediately lost it. I think I had
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the biggest fear response possible. My friend, he walked forward
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even a few more steps. He seemed to be completely fearless. Now,
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this is the crucial weird part. I don't remember anything
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else after that. We came to, both of us were
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standing in the same space. However, the fog was gone.
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I'm not sure. It just didn't seem like the same time.
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But even odder than that, Chris, we just walked back
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into the cabin and fell asleep. We didn't even discuss it.
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where people have had an experience, they had this missing time,
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and afterwards it's like, they don't really even care and
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they're just tired and want to go to bed. That's
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pretty interesting right there.
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How do you sleep after that, right? Yeah, I mean,
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and I don't remember even having trouble. I think we
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both just crawled into our beds and passed out immediately.
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he was packing his bag. And I knew at that
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point he wanted to go back down to Boulder. We
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were probably a week early. From going down and I
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didn't blame him. So I started packing my stuff too,
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but we did this all pretty much in silence. And
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in my head, I'm just going over what happened last night.
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I'm ruminating over it, but not saying anything. So halfway
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down the drive, just to ease my conscience and and
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put things at ease for myself i asked my friend
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i said hey i'll just refer to him as r
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always say i said hey art what did you see
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last night what happened i need to know what you
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saw and he basically mirrored what i saw exactly he
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didn't have any um deviations really. Um, except for that,
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he didn't want to talk about it much more after that.
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He seemed very reticent to speak about it. And we
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actually fell apart after that. We didn't really become, we
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kind of didn't be, we weren't as good friends. We
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were actually very good friends. We have taken many road trips.
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We've been friends for two years. We were housemates for
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a year before that. So it was something else.
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Very interesting. I've heard this before that after, uh, a
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person has a contact experience and they're there with someone
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else who was a very good friend of theirs, the
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relationship seems to just fall apart afterwards. And I've heard
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this maybe from three or four different abductees or contactees
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that after they have this experience, the other person they're
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with usually just doesn't want to talk about it and
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it causes them to just back away from everything, including
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the relationship they had with you. So that's interesting too, man.
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Yeah, absolutely. I've totally heard that before myself. And that's
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why each time I hear these experiences, I'm like, oh,
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there's what happened to me. You know, I checked that
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one off. But so, you know, that was it. We
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drove down. We kind of parted. We both had different
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places to live that fall. And what I did is
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I went down and I wrote the experience as I
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could remember it in my journal. I put down every
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single piece of it because it was very interesting to
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me and Up until that time, I did not really
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have any interest in UFOs. Of course, I was exposed
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to Star Trek, Star Wars, E.T. I was exposed to
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all that, but I didn't really give any opinion that
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it was real. I really did not. And I knew
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there was UFO stuff, but honestly, I didn't really have
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an opinion either way. I didn't disbelieve it or believe
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in it. It wasn't a subject of mine that I
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was interested in at all. Yeah. So... After this, I
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did become very interested in the subject. It actually was
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something that just was on my mind all the time.
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It was odd. So now I want to, if there's
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anything else you want to ask me about that, go ahead.
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I'm going to go on to the next experience.
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Yeah, before you do, I was just curious if you
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had any type of recall at all of what could
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have happened during that missing time. Any other memories that
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came through about that experience?
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Not a single bit, not one. And, and to be honest,
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I don't really want to know. You know, people have
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asked me, they're like, Oh, do you want to do some,
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you know, regression? If not, if not, I don't, I
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do not know. And I think that's because of what
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happened to me next. So, Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. So
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this was pretty weird, but so, I think I talked
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to you about this. So where this occurred was in
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a place called Humboldt County. It's in Northern California. It's
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right on the border of Oregon. It's really beautiful. It's
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basically Redwoods meets the ocean. It's gorgeous there. And what
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had happened was I had a couple of years between
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I had a really serious car accident. I had actually
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had a year of rehab. A lot of stuff happened
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in between that. that initial close sighting and then the
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next thing that happened. So I finally healed up. A
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friend of mine had purchased a pizza place up in
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a town called Blue Lake. It's right outside of a
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town called Arcata, which is a big college town up there.
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So it was pretty cool. And he just purchased it.
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He needed somebody to help him run it. And I
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thought it'd be a great, great opportunity for me to
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go up there because I love that area. I love
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the wilderness. So Camping is one of my favorite things
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to do. And so I moved up there with my
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dog and I was probably there for maybe three months
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at this time. And I had started to kind of
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have these little regular spots that I would camp at.
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It's now been renamed to Sue Meg, I guess the
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name Patrick Point. was offensive to the Native Americans because
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I think the guy was known for killing a bunch
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of Native Americans. So they ended up changing it like
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a few years back. But if you look up Patrick Point,
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it still comes up. But anyway, that actually is like
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a state park. It's right off the ocean. It's gorgeous.
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It's beautiful. And I would camp there regularly, sometimes once
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a week. Every other week, probably my dog and I
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would go there. And I had a truck and I
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had probably, this was my third time camping there maybe.
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He actually lived on a little cabin and we became
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really good friends. He was probably a few years older
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than me and we had become really good friends. And
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on this day I had spent the night. I woke
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up in the morning. I had made coffee. The ranger
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came over, he was talking to me and it was not,
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there was like right where my campground campsite was, there
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was a, it's called a surfer's trail, but it goes
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right down to the beach. And I told him, I said, Hey,
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I want to take a quick run down to the beach.
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Would you mind watching my dog, you know, for a
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half hour while I go run? He's like, yeah, for sure.
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his dog would play and I, you know, it was great.
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got my jacket. I like ran down the beach. I
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ran down to the beach and it was a, it
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was a beautiful day. I remember it was probably like 10,
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11 in the morning, 10 30, maybe 11, almost a
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clear sky with some wispy clouds. I got down to
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the beach. I think there was maybe two people on
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the beach. It was really empty. And so what the
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way the beach is, is it's just a big half
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moon beach type. And at the south end of it,
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there's these big jutting rocks that jut out onto the ocean. Now,
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let me preface this by telling you, I have heard several,
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not abduction, but close encounter experiences at the exact same
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place that I'm talking about. And they've been on podcasts.
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Several podcasts I've heard, like the confessionals, a few other
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people and they, they referenced this exact same spot. Um,
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so I think it might be a hotspot. Um, so anyway,
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I had hiked down and I don't know what drew
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me to, but these rocks that are jutting out onto
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the ocean, but I walked over to them and that
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it was very cool. Cause when you get on the
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rocks and you can actually see them, if you use
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Google map, like you can see them on there, there
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are these big rocks that come out onto the ocean
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and If you get on them, you can feel the
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vibration of the waves underneath. They feel really cool. It's like,
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I don't know. And I just got the inclination. It
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was warm. I just to lay down on them. So
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I laid back and I was looking up at the sky.
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And as I told you, there was, it was mostly
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a blue sky, but there was these low flying wispy
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clouds that were moving quickly overhead. I'm sure you've seen
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that type of cloud movement. And as I was staring
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at the clouds and, Um, I just kind of was
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just zoning out and, um, they started to go around
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a shape. Like I saw him going in a straight
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line in parts and I didn't know what I was seeing.
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I started to become a little bit, you know, like,
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am I, is this an optical illusion? I don't know
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what I'm looking at. And as I looked closer, I
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could see they were actually following a line around a gigantic,
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what looked like a diamond. And I mean, it threw
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me off because it looked like a mile long. I mean,
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it was the biggest thing you'd ever see. And then
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I could start to make out some parts of it,
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like little lights that were twinkling. And as that happened,
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I felt immediately a presence noticing me. It was, I
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can't tell you how it was very discernible. And as
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soon as that happened, a red beam, came out of
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this thing and hit me in the chest. And at
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that point, I couldn't breathe. I started to lose breath
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and panic. And I took, you know, this was something
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that like I thought was life or death. I didn't
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know what was going on. Obviously, I was shocked by
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the thing I was seeing, but also the feeling I
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was feeling. So anyway, as I took less, you know,
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I couldn't take a breath. I finally like it wasn't,
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I would say, blacked out. but I kind of got
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sucked out. I felt like a vacuum type sound and
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it seemed like a big commotion happened. And I've heard
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this by many abductees like this that have been taken
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this way. I was sucked out of my body and
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I came to onboard a ship. That's all I can say.
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I was in a room, a dimly lit room, and
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there was a presence near me. And basically they, they,
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proceeded to give me the lessons of my whole life.
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Now, was your awareness on this ship like your normal
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awareness or did it feel like dreamy or like you
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were somewhat in a drug state or something like that?
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So, yeah, this is the weird part. At first it did.
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At first it did. And, um, what I was told
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by these beings or what, you know, whoever, I will
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just refer them as they, them. I don't, they didn't
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give me any specification, but I, they did, They did
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tell me where they were from, which is bizarre because
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at that time I didn't know anything about this word
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or what it was, but now it's become pretty, pretty,
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you know, it's out there in the abduction. It's Arcturus
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is the star system. They were Arcturian. They told me
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that was where they're from, but that's, they don't identify
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with that anymore because what their job is to be here.
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This is what they do. They've been here before us.
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Their job is to watch over this system, I guess,
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is what they told me in a nutshell. But at
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the point that I started to lose my fear, I
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saw and experienced things in a clearer way than I
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do here. I don't know if that makes sense. It
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was clearer than my vision and my perception here. It
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was amazing. And I remember many, many details of it
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to this day with ultimate clarity.
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What did these Arcturians look like? How did they appear
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to you?
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Um, so this is the weird thing. They told me that, um, hello?
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Yeah, I'm here.
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Okay. I'm sorry. I was getting a phone call. I
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apologize for that. Um, so they told me that they
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didn't want to show themselves to me, but what I
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could tell later on is I think they were like,
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something that would scare me. They told me that they
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realized that I'd had contact before, and that I had
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a high fear response, and that it would probably mess
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up this experience if they were to show me that,
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show themselves to me at that time. They explained that
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to me. I know that sounds complicated, but they explained
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that to me in a snap of a second, because
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the telepathy, the way that works, it's so direct, it's
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so clear. And they basically explained that to me in
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two seconds that they didn't want to show themselves to
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me if I wanted to see them. And I kind
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of moved on from the subject because I was so
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enthralled by the environment that I was in. And the
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fact that I didn't have a body, I'm not going
397
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to say orgasmic, but it's almost ecstatic to not have
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a body. It felt like you were eyeballs kind of
399
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floating around. But to not have the human body is
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so liberating. It is unreal. And the comfort that you
401
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feel is amazing. So I don't know if they were
402
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putting it on me, but I felt like amazingly comfortable
403
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and good, you know, the whole time. And I just
404
00:22:10.099 --> 00:22:14.200
wanted to experience what I was experiencing. Totally. And there
405
00:22:14.259 --> 00:22:20.460
was a whole sequence to things. So the first thing
406
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that they started telling me once I got over asking,
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who are you? Where am I? You know, and stuff
408
00:22:25.710 --> 00:22:30.089
like that. They just started giving me a lesson about grace. immediately.
409
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They just started telling me everything they could about the
410
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greys and the species of greys and what they are,
411
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where they're from, why they're here. And the reason why
412
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is because they said, I have experience with the greys,
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that the greys were in the ship that came to
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the cabin. They said that they are involved in my
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family's life. And I can tell you later on some
416
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experiences my father's had when he was young that, you know,
417
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we don't have any direct, you know, evidence, but I
418
00:22:55.319 --> 00:22:58.319
guess I have some experience with them. So they wanted
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me to know what it was, you know, they, they,
420
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they said that this, they found that it was an
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opportunity to educate me. And then I says, well, why me?
422
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You know, why are you pulling me up because of this?
423
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Just because of this? They said, no, actually you're now
424
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I I'm going to get into a lot of crazy
425
00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:17.579
stuff here and I I'm just going to be open
426
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with you. Okay. They told me that I had a
427
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past life that was higher dimensional. They said they, I
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was part of a colony that was rescued from a
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planet that was about to ascend to some higher dimension
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that was beyond earth. You know, we were already in
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a peaceful state and our planet was about to be
432
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hit by some, some toxic cosmic dust that from an
433
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exploding supernova or something. And they rescued my race and
434
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put us on some water planet as a refuge while
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they got some planet ready for us. I don't know.
436
00:23:48.970 --> 00:23:52.470
It was very convoluted. They told me the details. And
437
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they said that, I was a part of a higher
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dimensional race that decided to come back to Earth, which
439
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I guess many are. I guess a lot of people
440
00:24:01.750 --> 00:24:04.509
are here that are from higher dimensionals to help with
441
00:24:04.569 --> 00:24:05.930
what's going to happen on Earth.
442
00:24:06.609 --> 00:24:09.289
Now, what did they tell you about the grays and
443
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the nature of their contact and what they wanted?
444
00:24:13.210 --> 00:24:15.269
So what they told me is that this is the
445
00:24:15.309 --> 00:24:16.869
part that I want to clear up for a lot
446
00:24:16.890 --> 00:24:19.390
of people. So they did tell me that there are
447
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one main type that have been abducting people since the
448
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late 40s, early 50s. But they said there's different types.
449
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They said there's other ones. They're not just this particular one.
450
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They said there's several types of the gray type species.
451
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And what this symbolizes, they said, this type of species
452
00:24:40.170 --> 00:24:45.890
is basically an evolutionary path that went wrong. These people are,
453
00:24:46.190 --> 00:24:51.170
or these beings are trying to correct their DNA pattern. Now,
454
00:24:52.130 --> 00:24:54.509
what happened with their world, I guess they're related to humans.
455
00:24:55.470 --> 00:24:57.910
You know, they have a relation to us. I guess
456
00:24:57.930 --> 00:25:01.630
they were very similar to us in evolution. And they
457
00:25:01.670 --> 00:25:05.410
had gone down the wrong path. Obviously, they destroyed their environment.
458
00:25:05.579 --> 00:25:08.759
They evolved underground for a long period of time, became
459
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very highly technological, highly intellectual. However, they lack spirit. They
460
00:25:14.380 --> 00:25:20.119
cannot process sunlight, generally. They cannot reproduce naturally. So they
461
00:25:20.180 --> 00:25:23.640
have actually... did figure out quantum technology. They can get
462
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off planet, they can get through space, but they're kind
463
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of at a dead end at this point. So they
464
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need us to salvage themselves. And I guess us detonating
465
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atom bombs in the 40s is what they told me
466
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in having nuclear bombs at our ready was probably the
467
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reason and the impetus for them to be here. They
468
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were like, they wouldn't normally allow this type of thing
469
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But because we seem to be going down the wrong path,
470
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they're allowing it because it's possibly a win-win where they
471
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can salvage our genetic code as well.
472
00:26:00.339 --> 00:26:01.180
Very interesting.
473
00:26:01.819 --> 00:26:04.299
Now, what they told me about these grays is that
474
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they are neutral. They don't really have a positive or negative. Now,
475
00:26:10.950 --> 00:26:13.509
I know there's a lot of negativity. Some people, you know,
476
00:26:13.549 --> 00:26:16.410
this is a nightmare to them. But what I've been told, now,
477
00:26:16.450 --> 00:26:21.140
this is more craziness. They told me that there are
478
00:26:21.299 --> 00:26:24.279
aliens that we think are aliens, but they're from this system.
479
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They're from Earth. They're from this system. Maybe Venus. I'm
480
00:26:29.019 --> 00:26:31.359
not sure. They didn't give me details like that. But
481
00:26:31.380 --> 00:26:34.930
they did show me a reptilian-type race. They showed me
482
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that this reptilian race has back-engineered these greys. Now, oh, yeah,
483
00:26:39.710 --> 00:26:42.750
this is another detail that I've heard maybe a little
484
00:26:42.769 --> 00:26:45.849
bit of. So what they told me is that the greys,
485
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the true greys, are reptilians. not the ones that are
486
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.480
seen in your bedroom or that are in people's memories.
487
00:26:52.940 --> 00:26:57.460
They said those grays are bioengineered. They are actually, they
488
00:26:57.579 --> 00:27:02.180
are sentient living things, but they've been created by this higher, taller,
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00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:06.559
wrinkly type gray to be drones for them because they
490
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:09.829
cannot exist in this environment very well. So they use
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00:27:09.869 --> 00:27:12.109
them as avatars when they come down here and do
492
00:27:12.150 --> 00:27:17.769
their collections. So they're actually an engineer type of a being.
493
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And they told me that these gray beings that are
494
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engineered have been back-engineered by the reptilians. So, and our government,
495
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I guess. I guess they're in cohorts with them in
496
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:33.960
these underground bases. And they've actually recreated these species of
497
00:27:33.980 --> 00:27:36.619
these grays that they use, too.
498
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.390
Now, this is all the same experience where you're on
499
00:27:42.430 --> 00:27:44.750
the ship and they're giving you all this information, right?
500
00:27:45.309 --> 00:27:47.210
Yeah, and this was the first part of it. It
501
00:27:47.230 --> 00:27:50.529
was very... It was very detailed. Like I said, they
502
00:27:50.569 --> 00:27:53.450
gave me, and they actually, so when they were telling
503
00:27:53.470 --> 00:27:55.690
me things, I was in the scene. I was in
504
00:27:55.730 --> 00:28:01.019
the scene, Chris, 360 degree. Like, it was like, I
505
00:28:01.059 --> 00:28:03.099
guess the holodeck is all I can, you know, have
506
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.680
you heard of the holodeck from Star Trek? Yeah, it's
507
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:08.359
similar to that, I guess. You know, you're in the scene.
508
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.460
That's all I can say. When they showed me the
509
00:28:10.500 --> 00:28:13.619
planet of the greys, it was like a red sky
510
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.920
with smoke everywhere. You know, they had destroyed their planet.
511
00:28:17.859 --> 00:28:19.660
They showed me that they had a similar thing where
512
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:25.839
their elites had built these large bases underground after they had,
513
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.349
you know, basically destroyed the population in themselves. And luckily
514
00:28:30.390 --> 00:28:32.730
they were able to survive it. You know, they had
515
00:28:32.809 --> 00:28:35.210
enough that they were able to survive it. And, you know,
516
00:28:35.250 --> 00:28:38.549
they realized that they did the wrong thing, that everything
517
00:28:38.569 --> 00:28:43.839
they did was wrong. And yeah, so they showed me everything,
518
00:28:44.339 --> 00:28:48.230
you know, in extreme detail and, I guess what they
519
00:28:48.309 --> 00:28:50.549
wanted me to know for certain about this is that
520
00:28:50.589 --> 00:28:56.910
there are, I guess, a nefarious race that's here. And
521
00:28:56.950 --> 00:29:02.319
they said that they're masquerading as from outside of space,
522
00:29:02.380 --> 00:29:05.319
but they're not. They're from here. They've been here all
523
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:06.619
the time, a long time.
524
00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:12.160
Now, out of all your experiences, did you ever have
525
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:18.890
any contact– Or an experience where you noticed humanoids, not
526
00:29:18.950 --> 00:29:24.400
necessarily just humanoids, but humans in uniform, maybe military personnel
527
00:29:24.420 --> 00:29:27.700
or some kind of medical personnel that looked very human
528
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:28.859
in your experience?
529
00:29:30.099 --> 00:29:33.029
No, but I haven't personally, but on the ship they
530
00:29:33.069 --> 00:29:36.289
did show me a race that looks like, I guess,
531
00:29:36.349 --> 00:29:40.460
what you would call the Nordic race. And they showed this... after.
532
00:29:40.980 --> 00:29:43.700
So this is when they gave me the whole understanding.
533
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:45.680
They gave me a little bit of a lesson. They
534
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.700
said that now this is going to probably shock people
535
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.180
because this is the part that I do not hear
536
00:29:51.380 --> 00:29:54.589
at all. And I heard Nancy say this. Now, there
537
00:29:54.660 --> 00:29:56.829
are no such thing as evil aliens, they told me.
538
00:29:57.109 --> 00:30:00.180
They said they wouldn't be allowed to. to go outside
539
00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:02.789
of their solar system if they were evil so the
540
00:30:02.890 --> 00:30:07.450
idea of this galactic you know space faring borg type
541
00:30:07.529 --> 00:30:10.750
race that goes in and destroys worlds is complete nonsense
542
00:30:11.650 --> 00:30:14.039
at least from what they told me they said that
543
00:30:14.130 --> 00:30:16.940
there is a there is nothing higher than them at
544
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.440
this point right now over here so they would be
545
00:30:19.539 --> 00:30:24.099
considered angelic i guess and they said that they wouldn't
546
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.400
If a race has those type of intentions, they wouldn't
547
00:30:27.460 --> 00:30:30.720
be allowed the quantum leap outside of their solar system.
548
00:30:31.539 --> 00:30:34.480
So they said there is that element here, but they're
549
00:30:34.500 --> 00:30:37.740
from here. They're not from outside. And that's why we
550
00:30:37.779 --> 00:30:41.609
have evil things going on. But that's what they told me.
551
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:43.740
They said it wouldn't be allowed. It would not be
552
00:30:43.940 --> 00:30:47.539
allowed to leave a system. and like just be warfaring
553
00:30:47.740 --> 00:30:48.720
and evil and.
554
00:30:48.819 --> 00:30:52.549
Now this nefarious race is this reptilians is it like
555
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:54.670
the nordics or is it something else.
556
00:30:54.809 --> 00:30:57.029
No no no the nordics they and this is where
557
00:30:57.190 --> 00:30:59.250
it gets to this they told me that the nordics
558
00:30:59.329 --> 00:31:01.809
were allowed to come here they're from the pleiades i
559
00:31:01.829 --> 00:31:05.230
guess and i guess and and they told me this
560
00:31:05.299 --> 00:31:08.700
like long before i discovered all these abduction experiences because
561
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.599
you know this has been obviously you know backed up
562
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.509
by a lot of people But the Pleiadians were allowed
563
00:31:14.549 --> 00:31:17.049
to come here and interact even a little more with
564
00:31:17.130 --> 00:31:20.130
us because they're, I guess, very closely related to humans,
565
00:31:20.490 --> 00:31:23.630
but they're already on the verge of ascension. So they've
566
00:31:23.650 --> 00:31:27.059
already figured out peace and war, and they don't have sickness.
567
00:31:27.099 --> 00:31:30.440
They lived out hundreds of years. You know, they've already
568
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.259
figured this stuff out, which is what I guess we're
569
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.960
supposed to be trying to figure out, you know. Without that,
570
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.119
we're not going to do anything. So, you know, because
571
00:31:39.140 --> 00:31:42.220
we're so backward, they've let these people come in and
572
00:31:42.740 --> 00:31:45.519
These other races come in and try and assist. But
573
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.160
the Pleiadians are from outside, but they've been allowed in
574
00:31:48.220 --> 00:31:53.170
because they're peaceful. So, yeah, they are real. They showed
575
00:31:53.190 --> 00:31:56.109
me them. They showed me their ships. It was a
576
00:31:56.390 --> 00:31:59.750
very compacted thing that they showed me. And this is
577
00:31:59.769 --> 00:32:01.690
just the beginning. They showed me a lot of stuff.
578
00:32:04.410 --> 00:32:06.180
One of the things they showed me, too, that if
579
00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:08.000
you want, I can tell you about is they showed me.
580
00:32:08.890 --> 00:32:11.700
These gigantic. So one thing I did. So it was
581
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:14.079
weird because as they were showing me things, I'd have
582
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:15.819
questions that would pop up in my head and they
583
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:19.680
would just answer it immediately. So one of the questions
584
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.079
that I had and they kind of just digressed after
585
00:32:22.660 --> 00:32:25.200
showing me the Greys and the Pleiadians and talking about
586
00:32:25.220 --> 00:32:28.420
the underground reptilians and the evil government. They did tell
587
00:32:28.460 --> 00:32:31.309
me that our government is not good and that it's
588
00:32:31.390 --> 00:32:33.369
up to us to take over. It's up to us
589
00:32:33.410 --> 00:32:36.250
to rise up. And they can't help us. You know,
590
00:32:36.269 --> 00:32:38.170
they said, and I, they were like, there's no way
591
00:32:38.190 --> 00:32:40.730
we can help you. Cause why would we help, help you?
592
00:32:41.009 --> 00:32:43.150
It would just handicap you. You know, we don't want
593
00:32:43.349 --> 00:32:45.730
you to be able to cross over handicapped is what
594
00:32:45.779 --> 00:32:50.059
they said, you know? All right. So if you can't
595
00:32:50.099 --> 00:32:52.380
figure this out for yourself, then you're not worth the trouble.
596
00:32:52.619 --> 00:32:56.130
You know, we'll just start over. That's they've, they've done it.
597
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.559
They're worth, they, they understand the risk and they, they, they're,
598
00:32:58.700 --> 00:33:01.079
they're pretty open to that too.
599
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:07.089
Can they tell you anything about, the malevolent agendas from
600
00:33:07.650 --> 00:33:11.569
our high level elites and military industrial complex are they
601
00:33:11.670 --> 00:33:14.599
in cahoots with some of these negative entities did they
602
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.359
give you any information about that.
603
00:33:17.460 --> 00:33:20.500
They did it wasn't extremely detailed but they did say
604
00:33:20.539 --> 00:33:25.240
that they do they do i guess siphon energy i
605
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:28.460
guess there's some kind of like cannibal not cannibal because
606
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.599
they're not part of us but I guess there is
607
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.880
some kind of like human trafficking thing. And they were
608
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.589
telling me about that. This is in 1996, you know,
609
00:33:36.329 --> 00:33:39.529
and it's kind of came full circle in the past
610
00:33:39.589 --> 00:33:42.970
few years, obviously. And, you know, just hearing all the
611
00:33:43.009 --> 00:33:46.210
stuff that's coming out with the David Grush, you know,
612
00:33:46.230 --> 00:33:51.019
hearings and his testimony. I just think I need to
613
00:33:51.230 --> 00:33:54.900
at least say what I know, you know, particularly, and,
614
00:33:55.059 --> 00:33:57.299
you know, it's just my experience, but at the same time,
615
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.789
a lot of it has been corroborated. Like, to a
616
00:34:00.809 --> 00:34:03.559
T and one of the things they did want me
617
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:05.299
to know is that, you know, they are going to
618
00:34:05.339 --> 00:34:08.000
try to pull a deception. Like this is some threat
619
00:34:08.059 --> 00:34:11.679
from outside and that aliens are evil, you know? And
620
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.039
that's what I'm coming to tell you is that they're
621
00:34:14.059 --> 00:34:17.860
not aliens. They're actually from here there. I don't know
622
00:34:17.909 --> 00:34:19.849
their whole story. It could have been, they evolved on
623
00:34:19.889 --> 00:34:23.110
being as Mars. I don't know, lived underground for a
624
00:34:23.130 --> 00:34:26.070
long time, but they are basically, I guess, running things
625
00:34:26.110 --> 00:34:28.530
from behind the show, you know, like behind the curtains.
626
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:34.889
I guess there's vast under ocean bases and underground both.
627
00:34:37.010 --> 00:34:39.849
And that's pretty much where they operate out of. You know,
628
00:34:40.030 --> 00:34:42.730
I wasn't given any details like, yes, they can shape shift,
629
00:34:42.789 --> 00:34:46.690
et cetera, et cetera. But I did. I was told, too,
630
00:34:46.730 --> 00:34:49.309
that there are good reptilians, not the ones that are
631
00:34:49.349 --> 00:34:52.000
from here. But there are some reptilians that have been
632
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:56.809
allowed to visit that are actually positive. So. And I
633
00:34:56.849 --> 00:35:00.030
have actually more of a personal story to that, that
634
00:35:00.050 --> 00:35:02.010
I can tell you later that they gave me after
635
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.260
kind of at the end of my, my thing. So
636
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.599
what I do want to tell you though, is can
637
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.400
I just finish and I'll go more into the, what,
638
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.960
what they told me, but I do want to wrap
639
00:35:14.059 --> 00:35:17.860
up what happened on the rock. So what happened was
640
00:35:18.539 --> 00:35:20.380
I was laying there obviously, and I had this whole
641
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:24.630
experience and Now, what happened? Now, this is how this
642
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:28.980
is being corroborated with the ranger. So, the ranger, I guess,
643
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:33.380
had been up at the campground waiting for me, and
644
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.030
I hadn't shown up, and it was already over an hour,
645
00:35:36.110 --> 00:35:37.969
he said. He said it already had just been about
646
00:35:38.010 --> 00:35:39.469
an hour and 10 minutes. I told him I'd be
647
00:35:39.530 --> 00:35:43.110
gone about 30 minutes. So, they said the dogs were
648
00:35:43.130 --> 00:35:45.710
getting restless. He thought he'd just take a walk down
649
00:35:45.780 --> 00:35:48.760
and check on me. So, he Hiked down the path.
650
00:35:49.019 --> 00:35:50.840
He went down to the beach and he said the dogs,
651
00:35:50.940 --> 00:35:53.219
both dogs ran right to the south end of the
652
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.559
beach where I was laying. And because I was lying flat,
653
00:35:56.659 --> 00:35:59.179
he didn't see me initially. He said he just followed
654
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.539
the dogs over there. And he said they both just
655
00:36:01.590 --> 00:36:03.469
sat in the sand. It was odd for him. They
656
00:36:03.510 --> 00:36:05.860
just both sat in the sand. And when he walked
657
00:36:05.949 --> 00:36:09.230
up to me, he then started to notice that I
658
00:36:09.269 --> 00:36:12.409
was laying there. But he said the most oddest thing
659
00:36:13.210 --> 00:36:16.750
was that I was surrounded by seagulls. like a circle
660
00:36:16.789 --> 00:36:18.809
of seagulls, a semicircle of seagulls.
661
00:36:19.630 --> 00:36:20.170
Wow.
662
00:36:20.289 --> 00:36:23.230
Now, I obviously did not see this, but when the
663
00:36:23.269 --> 00:36:26.690
experience was over, I came to, and I did see
664
00:36:26.829 --> 00:36:30.840
birds flying away. I remember just hearing wings flying. He
665
00:36:30.889 --> 00:36:33.280
told me that. So, but no, now this is the weird,
666
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:36.440
I'm sorry, I keep leaving out little details. I apologize.
667
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.559
I'm a little bit nervous. But he walked up, he
668
00:36:39.619 --> 00:36:42.739
tried to walk up to me while this, he first thought, wow,
669
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.000
that's weird. What are these seagulls doing laying around him?
670
00:36:45.750 --> 00:36:47.789
He walked up to me. He said the dogs didn't
671
00:36:48.050 --> 00:36:50.630
follow him. They stood in the sand behind. He said
672
00:36:50.670 --> 00:36:52.690
when he walked up to me, he reached out to
673
00:36:52.710 --> 00:36:55.300
try to just touch my shoulder, and he got a
674
00:36:55.469 --> 00:37:00.760
shock and got pushed back. Yeah, he said he got
675
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:02.840
a shock to his hand, and he was pushed back.
676
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:04.900
He said he was a bit scared by that. He
677
00:37:04.940 --> 00:37:06.840
didn't know what to think of it. So he just
678
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:08.679
went and sat down by the dogs, and he said
679
00:37:08.699 --> 00:37:12.039
within maybe two to three minutes, I woke up. Wow.
680
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:13.480
And the seagulls flew away.
681
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:18.159
Did you immediately have recall of what happened? Immediately.
682
00:37:18.340 --> 00:37:20.329
I had a recall of every single bit of it.
683
00:37:20.820 --> 00:37:22.449
And then the weird thing is a lot of it
684
00:37:22.489 --> 00:37:25.230
has unfolded too, over the years too, like just in
685
00:37:25.269 --> 00:37:29.550
different pieces. But, um, I did have immediately recall. And
686
00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:33.110
like I told you, the part about the Grays and
687
00:37:33.130 --> 00:37:35.989
the Pleiadians and the government, that was the very beginning
688
00:37:36.050 --> 00:37:38.190
of it. There was so much more that they showed me.
689
00:37:38.230 --> 00:37:41.679
They showed me a past life in detail. They showed me.
690
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.480
So one of the questions that I did have for
691
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.519
them was, what happens after this? Like, what's above this?
692
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:51.440
And is that you guys? And they were like, no, no, no, no.
693
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.860
They're like, the way we can explain it to you
694
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.349
is that you and I, they obviously know, you know,
695
00:37:57.409 --> 00:38:00.389
what terms we use. So they're trying to communicate it
696
00:38:00.409 --> 00:38:02.070
to me and things that I can understand. They said,
697
00:38:02.550 --> 00:38:05.530
think of it like this. You humans here on Earth
698
00:38:05.590 --> 00:38:08.849
are in kindergarten. We are seniors. So we haven't graduated
699
00:38:08.909 --> 00:38:11.880
yet either. We're at the top level, though. You know,
700
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.449
we're about to move forward. But we're that's that's our
701
00:38:15.469 --> 00:38:21.010
relation to you, basically. And I was like, OK, so well,
702
00:38:21.030 --> 00:38:23.070
then what's like above this? You know, I just kind
703
00:38:23.090 --> 00:38:25.929
of like what's the level above this? And they immediately
704
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:31.579
put me on board this ship that was I at
705
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:35.570
first I thought I was on a gigantic mall. It
706
00:38:35.650 --> 00:38:39.030
looked like a mall mixed with the most modern museum
707
00:38:39.070 --> 00:38:41.269
you've ever seen in your life, but with an open
708
00:38:41.309 --> 00:38:44.829
sky above it. And as I looked at it, it
709
00:38:44.869 --> 00:38:47.309
was like a, I don't know, it was just beautiful
710
00:38:47.780 --> 00:38:51.019
and I could see people on it. And at one
711
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:52.800
point I was above it and then I was standing
712
00:38:52.900 --> 00:38:55.579
on it. And then they just allowed me to explore
713
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.219
the ship. And as I looked over a banister, this
714
00:38:59.300 --> 00:39:01.920
is gonna, Chris, I'm gonna tell you, I don't know
715
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:04.610
how to explain this, but I looked over the banister
716
00:39:04.630 --> 00:39:09.099
and And I saw a forest and mountains as far
717
00:39:09.139 --> 00:39:10.980
as I can see in the center of the ship
718
00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:15.900
with clouds and birds. And I could see it was
719
00:39:16.699 --> 00:39:19.070
probably maybe a thousand foot drop from the side of
720
00:39:19.090 --> 00:39:23.329
the banister down to the floor of the forest. So
721
00:39:23.449 --> 00:39:27.630
it was this massive ship, I guess, that's floating out
722
00:39:27.690 --> 00:39:30.360
in space with a forest in the center. of it
723
00:39:31.019 --> 00:39:34.000
and you could see like sunlight was filtering through the
724
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:38.460
middle like it would on a planet wow it was
725
00:39:38.860 --> 00:39:41.710
massive and um i just.
726
00:39:41.619 --> 00:39:45.730
Have to ask this experience yeah yeah you were definitely
727
00:39:45.829 --> 00:39:49.550
aware that this was much different than just a normal
728
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:50.920
dream state.
729
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:56.099
Right 100 yeah it was because of uh uh it
730
00:39:56.139 --> 00:39:59.039
was the the vision that i had was so clear
731
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:03.199
and i i've heard this from other contactees it's like
732
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.570
it's a different and i they told me it's because
733
00:40:05.610 --> 00:40:08.050
of the dimensional shift i wasn't in my body so
734
00:40:08.110 --> 00:40:11.469
i was shifted up to another dimension and in that
735
00:40:11.530 --> 00:40:13.929
dimension I don't know how to say it. The colors
736
00:40:13.989 --> 00:40:18.320
are more brighter. There's everything is clearer. And then there
737
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:21.039
is an experience that I had, which might explain this.
738
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.420
And I think this is wise because when you don't
739
00:40:24.500 --> 00:40:27.800
have your body in that dimension, you can move at
740
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:31.360
the speed of light. Like you can think and be there.
741
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.449
And I was experiencing this when they were showing me things,
742
00:40:34.469 --> 00:40:36.989
they showed me a past life. They showed me this
743
00:40:37.070 --> 00:40:39.300
ship that I was on and they, and, when I
744
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:41.460
was on the ship, they kind of let me feel
745
00:40:41.500 --> 00:40:44.099
what it was feel like in that dimension. And it it's,
746
00:40:44.500 --> 00:40:48.119
they don't have sickness that that's all figured out, you know,
747
00:40:48.179 --> 00:40:50.840
they don't have war. So I asked them, what's the,
748
00:40:51.130 --> 00:40:52.610
then what do you do here? Is it just like,
749
00:40:53.050 --> 00:40:54.849
you know, as a utopia? And they said, no, no, no,
750
00:40:54.889 --> 00:40:57.670
there's other conflicts here, but it's different than what you're
751
00:40:57.690 --> 00:41:01.219
experiencing down there. They don't have that duality of, you know,
752
00:41:01.260 --> 00:41:03.500
there is some of that here. And I guess I was,
753
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:06.840
and I don't, I hesitate to say fourth dimension, fifth dimension,
754
00:41:06.860 --> 00:41:11.280
but I'm assuming fifth dimension, you know, maybe six. And, um,
755
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.420
I felt, uh, what it might feel like there, um,
756
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.239
you know, not having to worry about evil things and
757
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:22.010
sickness and stuff. Um, but I guess this was the
758
00:41:22.050 --> 00:41:25.349
next level. Um, and it was this, I guess the
759
00:41:25.449 --> 00:41:29.789
ship docked sometimes, but it's mostly, you know, it's controlled.
760
00:41:29.849 --> 00:41:34.460
Like you don't worry about planetary anything, you know what
761
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.860
I mean? Um, you don't worry about anything. They don't
762
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:39.539
have that to worry about.
763
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:46.110
Now, after this experience ended, was there a long period
764
00:41:46.130 --> 00:41:48.309
of time before you experienced anything else?
765
00:41:50.630 --> 00:41:55.059
Um, actually after this, I, I, you're, oh, you mean
766
00:41:55.179 --> 00:41:59.179
after this experience, I, um, So yeah, I'll go into
767
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:01.860
the next thing. So I did it for a long time.
768
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:03.739
In fact, what they told me is, this is the
769
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.710
weird part, is I did experience a few small things.
770
00:42:07.409 --> 00:42:10.369
And they told me that I had, one other reason
771
00:42:10.409 --> 00:42:12.409
why they had contacted me is they said that I
772
00:42:12.469 --> 00:42:16.050
had a deep connection with a reptilian race that was
773
00:42:16.110 --> 00:42:20.969
from another star system. And they showed me it was
774
00:42:21.010 --> 00:42:24.989
an albino reptilian race. They were all about 70 foot tall.
775
00:42:25.210 --> 00:42:29.320
They looked like bodybuilders. And I guess they were there here.
776
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:32.360
There's a small contingent of them here on Earth. And
777
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:34.900
they're in, I guess, a high, high dimension. So they
778
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.840
usually appear translucent to anybody that could see them. And
779
00:42:40.340 --> 00:42:42.300
I guess I have one that's with me pretty much
780
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.019
all the time or I can consult with all the time.
781
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:48.500
And I've pretty much been experiencing that being for a
782
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:51.559
while now. Now, the weird thing about this is I've
783
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.590
kept that completely to myself. I don't want to sound
784
00:42:53.610 --> 00:42:56.420
like a complete nut. You know, saying I have this
785
00:42:56.760 --> 00:43:00.280
eight foot tall albino reptilian that I communicate with. But
786
00:43:01.550 --> 00:43:04.929
what happened later on is I found a YouTube channel
787
00:43:04.969 --> 00:43:06.869
last year called Canadian Awareness.
788
00:43:07.369 --> 00:43:08.789
Yeah, I've had Anthony on.
789
00:43:10.110 --> 00:43:14.949
So Anthony has a video about the Taurian reptilians and
790
00:43:15.030 --> 00:43:19.510
he explains them in detail completely to a T. He
791
00:43:19.550 --> 00:43:23.559
says they're white, they're shinny. They are about eight foot
792
00:43:23.579 --> 00:43:27.659
tall and that not many people interact with them. And
793
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:29.969
they told me that's pretty much what's been with me
794
00:43:30.030 --> 00:43:33.429
since I was a child. And it's been given to
795
00:43:33.469 --> 00:43:35.909
me because of, I guess, the bloodline that my father's
796
00:43:35.929 --> 00:43:39.050
a part of. Right.
797
00:43:39.070 --> 00:43:44.800
Now, you said that your father also had experiences with non-humans?
798
00:43:45.820 --> 00:43:51.949
Yes, he did. And he's had several supernatural, but I,
799
00:43:52.030 --> 00:43:53.969
if you want, I can tell you, there's an experience
800
00:43:54.010 --> 00:43:57.929
that he's had that actually mirrors my second wife's to
801
00:43:58.010 --> 00:44:01.480
a T, um, which is very weird. And I'll just,
802
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.280
I'll tell them briefly. So my dad was coming home
803
00:44:04.340 --> 00:44:08.699
from his girlfriend's house. This is in 1950s, like middle 1950s. Um,
804
00:44:08.739 --> 00:44:12.800
he's from rural Southern Colorado. Um, he was driving down from, uh,
805
00:44:13.690 --> 00:44:18.730
a town called, um, Alamosa to San Luis. And, um,
806
00:44:19.710 --> 00:44:21.710
You've probably heard of the San Luis Valley. Lots of
807
00:44:21.809 --> 00:44:26.010
UFOs down there. And he basically was driving home from
808
00:44:26.050 --> 00:44:28.690
his girlfriend's house, 10 o'clock at night. A big light
809
00:44:28.889 --> 00:44:31.179
was behind him, thought it was a truck or trailer.
810
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:33.679
It approached at a high rate of speed, but then
811
00:44:33.699 --> 00:44:37.199
it soon had no sound, overtook his car, floated on
812
00:44:37.260 --> 00:44:42.280
top of it. His cabin was flooded with lights. And
813
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:44.719
then next thing you knew, he was pulling into his driveway.
814
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.320
And he has complete missing time, doesn't remember anything. He
815
00:44:49.500 --> 00:44:51.619
has one where he saw a little man out in
816
00:44:51.659 --> 00:44:54.500
the forest, had missing time, was back in his bed,
817
00:44:54.539 --> 00:44:56.139
and he didn't know how he got to his room.
818
00:44:57.099 --> 00:45:00.050
That was when he was little. And then my wife,
819
00:45:00.130 --> 00:45:04.369
my second wife, has the almost exact experience with the
820
00:45:04.409 --> 00:45:06.750
light on the road. Her and her friend were coming
821
00:45:06.809 --> 00:45:09.070
back from, this is in the late 90s, they were
822
00:45:09.090 --> 00:45:12.219
coming back from a rave outside of Denver in Louisville.
823
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.039
They were driving back at night down a rural road
824
00:45:16.099 --> 00:45:20.039
back into Denver. No cars on the road. They then
825
00:45:20.099 --> 00:45:22.460
saw a light just light up on the field next
826
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:25.739
to them, like pacing their car. And then it basically
827
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:28.869
just came across the field, went on top of their car,
828
00:45:29.050 --> 00:45:32.110
filled the car with light. And then next thing you know,
829
00:45:32.150 --> 00:45:34.849
she said they were driving down the street to her
830
00:45:34.889 --> 00:45:37.769
friend's house to drop him off. She didn't have any
831
00:45:37.829 --> 00:45:41.190
memory of it. And she's seen owls all her life
832
00:45:41.269 --> 00:45:43.349
outside of her bedroom, too, which I guess there's some
833
00:45:43.389 --> 00:45:48.280
correlation with owls. Um, so, so that's my second wife's experience.
834
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:50.449
You know, they don't have anything more than that. Like
835
00:45:50.469 --> 00:45:55.090
they never seen grays, but, um, that's their experiences. But
836
00:45:55.150 --> 00:45:57.750
I do have one experience that I will share with
837
00:45:57.789 --> 00:46:00.550
you that happened with the birth of my first daughter. Yeah.
838
00:46:00.570 --> 00:46:01.679
I was just about to ask you about that.
839
00:46:02.739 --> 00:46:05.940
Yeah. So, um, I have been remarried, so I have
840
00:46:05.980 --> 00:46:10.400
a second wife now, but my first wife, um, I,
841
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.219
on the night that I believe my daughter was conceived
842
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.739
with my first wife, um, I had my very first
843
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:22.579
experience with sleep paralysis. So we had obviously made love,
844
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:26.539
went to bed and fell asleep. And around, I don't know,
845
00:46:26.619 --> 00:46:29.159
three in the morning, I woke up. I had never,
846
00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:32.099
I've heard of sleep paralysis, never experienced it in my life.
847
00:46:33.579 --> 00:46:37.769
I woke up, I could not move. My eyeballs could move,
848
00:46:37.829 --> 00:46:40.170
but nothing in my body. And as I noticed, there
849
00:46:40.210 --> 00:46:42.769
were maybe, I can't say an exact number. There were
850
00:46:43.250 --> 00:46:48.989
multiple grays. around the bed. They were the three foot tall,
851
00:46:49.070 --> 00:46:51.590
the shiny, the smooth skin. I could tell these were
852
00:46:51.610 --> 00:46:55.940
the drone types. They were around my bed. And then
853
00:46:56.019 --> 00:46:58.900
across the room, I could see a portal in the wall.
854
00:46:59.380 --> 00:47:01.340
And in the portal, I could see it was a
855
00:47:01.420 --> 00:47:04.340
ship and I could see like instrumentation panels and other
856
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.730
grays standing at them. Now, what I was told by
857
00:47:08.769 --> 00:47:12.170
the by my I was just told, I don't know
858
00:47:12.190 --> 00:47:14.409
if it's true or not, I get these messages and
859
00:47:14.449 --> 00:47:16.659
they told me that there was a ship, an etheric
860
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:21.880
ship was parked on my house in my bedroom. And basically,
861
00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:24.360
I don't know exactly why it was important for them
862
00:47:24.420 --> 00:47:28.440
to do something with my daughter. But it was exactly
863
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.010
nine months after that that she was born. I.
864
00:47:32.429 --> 00:47:35.730
So during the experience, I couldn't move, but I was
865
00:47:35.750 --> 00:47:37.489
a little bit freaked out. I was kind of more
866
00:47:37.530 --> 00:47:40.170
observing at first, but when they started to notice me,
867
00:47:40.210 --> 00:47:43.170
I could tell they were getting a little frantic. And
868
00:47:45.110 --> 00:47:47.150
I noticed that I could start to move my pinky.
869
00:47:47.710 --> 00:47:53.230
So I basically nudged my first wife, fiance at the time,
870
00:47:53.570 --> 00:47:56.679
and she woke up and that basically made them just
871
00:47:56.699 --> 00:47:59.639
kind of like, they just kind of evaporated. It just
872
00:47:59.659 --> 00:48:03.360
kind of, they phased out. Wow. And she woke up
873
00:48:03.420 --> 00:48:07.500
and I could move again. So that was that experience.
874
00:48:07.699 --> 00:48:10.380
Now fast forward to my daughter's birth. Now this is
875
00:48:10.420 --> 00:48:14.639
where it gets really wacky. So my daughter was born
876
00:48:14.659 --> 00:48:22.539
in February of 2004. And I'd say two months after that,
877
00:48:22.699 --> 00:48:26.320
it was probably the end of March, early April. Me
878
00:48:26.380 --> 00:48:31.539
and my ex-wife got the weirdest idea, some weird hair
879
00:48:31.739 --> 00:48:34.409
up our butt. To take a trip to the sand
880
00:48:34.429 --> 00:48:37.250
dunes in the middle of, you know, early spring when
881
00:48:37.269 --> 00:48:40.730
it was still freezing. Now, we drove down to the
882
00:48:40.789 --> 00:48:43.889
sand dunes, camped for the weekend, and came back home.
883
00:48:45.340 --> 00:48:48.820
Neither of us can remember what we did there. We
884
00:48:48.860 --> 00:48:52.300
don't remember one moment of memory from there, not even
885
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.500
a bit. And even looking back, both of us, we've
886
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:57.980
talked about it several times. We're very open to talk
887
00:48:58.019 --> 00:48:59.969
about it. But both of us are like, well, why
888
00:49:00.010 --> 00:49:01.610
in the heck would we go to the sand dunes
889
00:49:01.670 --> 00:49:04.530
in April or in March, like with a two month
890
00:49:04.590 --> 00:49:10.119
old baby? Like, what were we doing? Yeah. And I
891
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:13.699
have one memory of driving into the campground at sand dunes.
892
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:16.150
There was no one there because it was obviously freezing,
893
00:49:17.090 --> 00:49:19.250
setting up the tent. And that's it. I don't remember
894
00:49:19.349 --> 00:49:21.320
anything else. I don't even remember taking the tent down
895
00:49:21.380 --> 00:49:22.960
and leaving. I just remember driving home.
896
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:24.719
Wow.
897
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.679
So there goes that. I don't know what that has
898
00:49:28.699 --> 00:49:32.510
to do with anything, but it's very puzzling to say
899
00:49:32.530 --> 00:49:34.250
the least. Yeah.
900
00:49:34.789 --> 00:49:37.869
Now, do you still have experiences that are ongoing?
901
00:49:37.909 --> 00:49:43.039
Yeah. No, I not, not direct. And one of the
902
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.510
things that I, but I do have contact with these
903
00:49:45.590 --> 00:49:50.650
Arcturians all the time and I can pretty much ask anything.
904
00:49:51.050 --> 00:49:54.309
They just really don't, don't give me advice about myself.
905
00:49:55.369 --> 00:49:58.989
But I have a very strong intuition, let's say about
906
00:49:59.300 --> 00:50:00.360
anything and everything.
907
00:50:00.579 --> 00:50:03.159
So you have more of just this kind of conscious
908
00:50:03.219 --> 00:50:07.239
communication with them. Psychic communication.
909
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:11.269
Okay. Yep. And, um, the, they told me that that
910
00:50:11.289 --> 00:50:13.230
it would be like that since they take, took me
911
00:50:13.269 --> 00:50:16.329
that time. I'm not sure if they tagged me. I
912
00:50:16.369 --> 00:50:19.269
don't know exactly how, but I do have a pretty
913
00:50:19.809 --> 00:50:22.889
conscious communication with them at all times. Cause that I,
914
00:50:23.219 --> 00:50:25.599
there's a way to tell when it's not yourself, you know,
915
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:28.400
it's answers that come out of left field that you're
916
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:30.880
not thinking of. In fact, a lot of times they
917
00:50:30.900 --> 00:50:33.920
will admonish me for things too. I mean, it's almost
918
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:38.010
like a big brother. Um, And as far as the
919
00:50:38.969 --> 00:50:43.670
tall reptilian being, it's been witnessed by several people, my family,
920
00:50:43.789 --> 00:50:47.610
my friends, and my wife, and two of my best
921
00:50:47.650 --> 00:50:50.349
friends since then have been like, dude, what the F
922
00:50:50.409 --> 00:50:52.690
is that that I saw?
923
00:50:53.429 --> 00:50:57.530
There seems to be two prominent sides of this. The
924
00:50:57.630 --> 00:51:01.610
first side is the positive, benevolent side, which we mostly
925
00:51:01.670 --> 00:51:05.989
spoke about tonight. And I've experienced this type of contact.
926
00:51:06.050 --> 00:51:10.289
I've had hundreds of guests that have experienced benevolent contact.
927
00:51:10.469 --> 00:51:15.019
And this type of experience seems to be attempting to
928
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:20.059
evolve humanity, to grow our consciousness, to expand our consciousness
929
00:51:20.099 --> 00:51:23.829
and get us to the next level of human evolution.
930
00:51:24.710 --> 00:51:28.329
And it seems to be a very beneficial type of contact.
931
00:51:28.369 --> 00:51:30.929
And then they have the second type, which the more
932
00:51:31.010 --> 00:51:34.659
I learn about, the more it seems to be something
933
00:51:34.699 --> 00:51:37.989
that is human-based. It seems to be something that our
934
00:51:38.090 --> 00:51:44.869
military is doing, that these very black projects that are
935
00:51:45.269 --> 00:51:49.650
taking advantage of people, possibly even still abducting people, feeding
936
00:51:49.750 --> 00:51:53.170
false information, I think that's what's going to be behind
937
00:51:53.230 --> 00:51:57.389
this whole alien narrative that's being put forward in the mainstream.
938
00:51:58.070 --> 00:52:01.250
And I think that's the negative side is what humanity
939
00:52:01.329 --> 00:52:07.039
is actually doing as opposed to these benevolent non-human intelligences
940
00:52:07.099 --> 00:52:09.760
that seem to be trying to evolve us in a way.
941
00:52:10.139 --> 00:52:10.719
Would you agree?
942
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.539
100%. I mean, you're, you hit it, hit the nail
943
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.440
on the head. Um, they, they explained to me the,
944
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:20.969
my lab abductions, they showed them to me, they showed me,
945
00:52:21.530 --> 00:52:23.969
you know, that it is the government. It's a, it's
946
00:52:24.030 --> 00:52:28.599
a breakaway civilization type government, you know? Um, that's been,
947
00:52:28.699 --> 00:52:31.420
I guess, kind of in the background for a long time,
948
00:52:31.659 --> 00:52:37.820
you know, withholding extremely advanced technology, free energy, you know,
949
00:52:37.860 --> 00:52:41.920
things that would propel us into the next dimension, obviously, with,
950
00:52:42.260 --> 00:52:46.000
you know, understanding not having to suffer, you know, not having,
951
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:49.800
they could fix everything that's happening, but they choose not to,
952
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:53.139
as a way of controlling and enslaving the population. And
953
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:56.679
they told me that this is 100% happening. And that,
954
00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:01.280
and I think they showed me these robotic geo, you know,
955
00:53:01.579 --> 00:53:05.460
bioengineered beings because they told me that they're being used
956
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:10.039
by both sides. They were originally created by these one grays,
957
00:53:10.059 --> 00:53:12.460
like I said, that are trying to rejuvenate their DNA.
958
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:17.789
But they've been back engineered by the bad guys that
959
00:53:17.829 --> 00:53:20.949
are here. And they're used in a lot of the
960
00:53:21.010 --> 00:53:24.230
abduction scenarios that you've heard of where people have these
961
00:53:24.570 --> 00:53:28.469
horrible experiences that I've heard of. And I don't, I don't,
962
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:30.650
excuse me, I don't doubt them for a moment either.
963
00:53:32.230 --> 00:53:34.889
You know, I mean, as dark as you can think
964
00:53:35.010 --> 00:53:38.750
that it's things that are happening, they are. You know,
965
00:53:38.769 --> 00:53:42.610
and I did ask them about demons and, you know,
966
00:53:42.670 --> 00:53:45.630
God and things like that and how that relates to them.
967
00:53:46.130 --> 00:53:48.190
And they says, well, it's all about how you look
968
00:53:48.289 --> 00:53:51.929
at it. You know, demons are things that can manipulate
969
00:53:51.969 --> 00:53:55.869
the air. They can be invisible, you know. They can
970
00:53:56.110 --> 00:53:59.050
be that trans-dimensional, but they're like, if you don't look
971
00:53:59.090 --> 00:54:02.090
at it like that, like that's the way religion puts it.
972
00:54:02.889 --> 00:54:08.079
But they said 100% that there is a spiritual element
973
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:13.880
to it. There is an unseen force. And that basically
974
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:19.989
the way to combat that is that they told me
975
00:54:20.030 --> 00:54:24.300
that it's basically about standing up for yourself. you have
976
00:54:24.340 --> 00:54:27.440
to get their respect. And if they respect you, there's
977
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:35.159
these laws they have to follow. They know your deepest desires.
978
00:54:35.219 --> 00:54:38.269
If you're trying to act like a badass, but privately
979
00:54:38.289 --> 00:54:44.690
you're a porn addict or you harbor hate or unforgiveness,
980
00:54:45.110 --> 00:54:49.369
they know all that. They can weed out anything inside
981
00:54:49.409 --> 00:54:51.369
of you. So They said the best thing is to
982
00:54:51.409 --> 00:54:55.230
stay clean, try to be as clean as possible. And
983
00:54:55.489 --> 00:54:59.610
they do admire strength. They admire bravery. They admire resilience.
984
00:55:00.739 --> 00:55:02.599
And you can get these things– if you can get
985
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:04.500
these things to respect you, then they ain't going to
986
00:55:04.539 --> 00:55:08.139
bother you. That's the way that they told me. And
987
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:09.940
you've got to guard respect deep inside.
988
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:15.050
Yeah, it seems like even both sides, there is a
989
00:55:15.230 --> 00:55:21.010
sense of trying to push humanity to evolve itself. whether
990
00:55:21.110 --> 00:55:25.179
it's something that we perceive as negative or positive, the
991
00:55:25.219 --> 00:55:29.239
polarities without that, we wouldn't be able to evolve as humans.
992
00:55:29.300 --> 00:55:32.500
And I think even these negative forces, what we perceive
993
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:36.159
as negative forces have their own role to play in
994
00:55:36.429 --> 00:55:38.769
evolving us as humans. 100%.
995
00:55:38.769 --> 00:55:41.769
They said that they couldn't, we, that they're, they, they
996
00:55:41.829 --> 00:55:45.909
actually serve a crucial role, a crucial role because it's
997
00:55:45.949 --> 00:55:49.849
part of refining. Um, so, uh, They're like, without these
998
00:55:49.909 --> 00:55:53.730
tempting demons that pull people into drug addiction and this
999
00:55:53.809 --> 00:55:57.210
and that, you know, all the darknesses of humanity. They said,
1000
00:55:57.250 --> 00:56:00.250
without that, how do we know who are the strong ones?
1001
00:56:00.289 --> 00:56:02.429
You know, how do we know who we should focus on?
1002
00:56:02.989 --> 00:56:06.650
You know, and they realize that it's a big, you know,
1003
00:56:06.670 --> 00:56:10.949
it's like it's not going to happen for everybody. Many
1004
00:56:11.010 --> 00:56:14.360
people are very far behind the curve. You know what
1005
00:56:14.380 --> 00:56:18.059
I'm saying? And that's just to propel those ones that aren't,
1006
00:56:18.219 --> 00:56:21.940
you know, that are moving there and are ascended. And
1007
00:56:21.980 --> 00:56:23.719
I guess what they told me is that a lot
1008
00:56:23.739 --> 00:56:26.019
of the people, because of our population is so large,
1009
00:56:26.059 --> 00:56:27.900
and I guess, you know, and they didn't give me
1010
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.219
any specifications. They did show me, just like everyone else,
1011
00:56:31.260 --> 00:56:34.139
they showed me some doomsday scenarios. They showed me some
1012
00:56:34.219 --> 00:56:37.260
crazy stuff happening. But they said it didn't have to
1013
00:56:37.300 --> 00:56:41.099
be that way. And they did tell me that there
1014
00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:45.239
are a lot of, like, people that, have already gone
1015
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:48.489
past earth that are back here in human bodies to
1016
00:56:48.550 --> 00:56:51.449
witness and help during this end times and i guess
1017
00:56:51.510 --> 00:56:54.750
i'm one of them so a lot of these contactees
1018
00:56:54.789 --> 00:56:57.670
that's part of their mission i guess here is to
1019
00:56:57.750 --> 00:57:01.150
assist and even if it's just spreading information because they
1020
00:57:01.170 --> 00:57:04.570
told me they they especially them they said the pleiadians
1021
00:57:04.710 --> 00:57:06.610
and the grays have been giving a little bit more
1022
00:57:07.389 --> 00:57:10.360
um ability to interact but because they're so high up
1023
00:57:10.409 --> 00:57:12.940
and they're they're they can't really do anything except do
1024
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.219
what they did to me that's pretty much the extent
1025
00:57:15.260 --> 00:57:19.159
of their of what they can do um they did
1026
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:21.760
tell me like pleiadians have stopped some nuclear stuff you
1027
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.349
know have you've heard of those stories where like an
1028
00:57:24.469 --> 00:57:28.210
air force base went completely shut down by a hovering
1029
00:57:28.429 --> 00:57:31.570
craft those were pleiadians i guess they're the ones that
1030
00:57:31.809 --> 00:57:34.730
are are doing all that type of they i'm Yeah.
1031
00:57:34.789 --> 00:57:36.570
And then another thing, just I'll tell you, Chris, they
1032
00:57:36.590 --> 00:57:39.110
told me it's all over. They're like most of them
1033
00:57:39.150 --> 00:57:42.510
have all left already by now. In the early 2000
1034
00:57:42.510 --> 00:57:45.449
was the end of the abductions. It's not happening anymore.
1035
00:57:46.139 --> 00:57:48.460
It's very rare that you will hear of that stuff
1036
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:50.960
happening right now. And if they are, it's not it's
1037
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:51.969
the government doing it.
1038
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:58.920
Now, did they give you any other profound information about
1039
00:57:59.539 --> 00:58:02.699
the upcoming future that we have about the direction that
1040
00:58:02.739 --> 00:58:03.820
we're headed collectively?
1041
00:58:06.829 --> 00:58:10.750
Mm-hmm. I would say profound, yes, but not detailed. They
1042
00:58:10.789 --> 00:58:13.769
did tell me that we are in for something very,
1043
00:58:13.809 --> 00:58:17.449
very big on the horizon. And they told me that
1044
00:58:17.510 --> 00:58:21.309
I had a little bit of time to get things together.
1045
00:58:21.349 --> 00:58:24.929
And this was 1996. But they did say be ready.
1046
00:58:24.949 --> 00:58:27.860
I don't think it's going to be some end world event.
1047
00:58:27.989 --> 00:58:30.579
I don't think it's going to be a catastrophe like that.
1048
00:58:30.699 --> 00:58:32.099
I do think there is going to be a lot
1049
00:58:32.139 --> 00:58:35.530
of dead people. I think, you know, there is going
1050
00:58:35.550 --> 00:58:37.429
to be a lot of loss of life. But at
1051
00:58:37.469 --> 00:58:40.849
the same time, I think, you know, I'm hoping that
1052
00:58:40.869 --> 00:58:43.670
we're going to push through. I'm a big optimist. I've
1053
00:58:43.789 --> 00:58:48.050
always been an optimist. Just seeing the future and seeing other,
1054
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:50.820
you know, ways of life and what the information they've
1055
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.699
given me, it's given me a great deal of optimism
1056
00:58:53.780 --> 00:58:56.559
and hope for our world. But, you know, it is
1057
00:58:56.619 --> 00:58:58.929
in a pretty stark place, you know, at the moment.
1058
00:58:59.050 --> 00:59:01.519
And That's one of the main reasons why I've come
1059
00:59:01.579 --> 00:59:03.800
forward is because I just want to maybe just spread
1060
00:59:03.820 --> 00:59:06.550
some of this information and let people know that, you know,
1061
00:59:06.610 --> 00:59:09.090
we do have a war going on right now. There
1062
00:59:09.190 --> 00:59:14.460
is a stir. war going on for our future. And
1063
00:59:14.500 --> 00:59:18.480
I think, you know, environmentally, yes, it's a complete nightmare.
1064
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:21.219
But I think if we can pull things together spiritually,
1065
00:59:21.260 --> 00:59:24.119
we may have a chance, you know. for that to
1066
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:27.260
spread forward. But we've got something to dig out of now, man.
1067
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:29.480
We've gone really far down the bad path.
1068
00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:35.239
Yeah, we're in critical times to say the least. Alex,
1069
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:38.829
you're also working on a book about all of this, right?
1070
00:59:40.110 --> 00:59:43.949
Absolutely. I'm planning to release it this spring, self-published on Amazon.
1071
00:59:44.809 --> 00:59:47.510
I'll let you know first thing when it's published. I'm
1072
00:59:47.530 --> 00:59:51.519
about 75% done. I'm just kind of getting all the
1073
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:56.119
finer points done editing and yeah, I'm pretty much there
1074
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:56.539
for sure.
1075
00:59:56.599 --> 00:59:57.099
Excellent.
1076
00:59:57.760 --> 00:59:57.960
Yes.
1077
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:01.079
We'll definitely have to be updated on that. Alex, thank
1078
01:00:01.099 --> 01:00:05.719
you so much. Those incredible experiences and insights. We'll have
1079
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to get deeper in the future because we barely scratched
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the surface. So looking forward to that before you go,
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is there anything else that you'd like to let the
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01:00:14.630 --> 01:00:17.409
audience know about how to find your work or anything else?
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01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.219
No, it'll be under the name Alex Cruz, and it'll
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01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:24.429
be on, like I said, it'll be on Amazon. I
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01:00:24.449 --> 01:00:28.469
will be having a Kindle. I've actually published a few
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01:00:29.050 --> 01:00:32.670
other short stories and kids' books, and I'm about to
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01:00:32.730 --> 01:00:35.449
write this book. This is my next project. So that's
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01:00:35.489 --> 01:00:37.369
about it, and I'll let you know when it's released.
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01:00:37.949 --> 01:00:40.690
Excellent. Alex, thank you so much. We'll definitely do this again.
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01:00:40.710 --> 01:00:44.099
And until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
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01:00:44.139 --> 01:00:45.239
talk again tomorrow.
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See y'all then.
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01:00:49.489 --> 01:00:51.929
Today I want to welcome back to the show Amy Belair.
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01:00:52.369 --> 01:00:57.769
She is a starseed activator, priestess, oracle, channel, and Akashic
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01:00:57.849 --> 01:01:03.190
soul guide. She translates and anchors powerful multidimensional light codes
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01:01:03.329 --> 01:01:07.570
into the 3D human experience, doing her sacred part to
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01:01:07.650 --> 01:01:12.559
assist the human collective to wake up within the dream. Amy,
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01:01:12.699 --> 01:01:14.280
welcome back. How you doing?
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01:01:14.300 --> 01:01:18.000
I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me, Chris.
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01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:21.239
Yes, thank you so much for coming back on. Last
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01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:24.159
time was so fun. I can't wait for our conversation today.
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01:01:24.179 --> 01:01:27.510
We're going to attempt to shed some light on different
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01:01:27.530 --> 01:01:32.210
spiritual practices that I've really come to understand are extremely
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01:01:32.289 --> 01:01:35.550
important in each and every one of our journeys, as
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01:01:35.590 --> 01:01:38.409
well as I want to get your further insight into
1106
01:01:38.829 --> 01:01:42.409
how we can tap into our own highest self and
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01:01:42.489 --> 01:01:46.929
possibly remember our soul's purpose and mission in And there's
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01:01:47.130 --> 01:01:50.590
plenty of rabbit holes we can jump into that branch
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01:01:50.670 --> 01:01:54.210
off of that. But before we do, first, remind the
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01:01:54.309 --> 01:01:56.519
audience just a little bit about yourself. It's been a
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01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:59.260
while since you've been on and your work.
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01:02:00.820 --> 01:02:02.699
Yeah, thank you. Well, okay.
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01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:04.760
So I guess the crux of my work is always
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01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:07.000
the Akashic Records. That's what got me into all of this.
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01:02:07.059 --> 01:02:09.489
And it's still what I do most centrally.
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01:02:09.710 --> 01:02:09.849
So I.
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01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:17.380
Call myself an Akashic Oracle. So what that means is
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01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:20.110
I can read people's individual Akashic records, but I can
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01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:25.530
also tap into the collective human consciousness, as well as
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01:02:25.570 --> 01:02:28.670
like our past, present and future and bring through information about.
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01:02:28.510 --> 01:02:30.110
That that applies more generally.
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01:02:30.510 --> 01:02:33.949
And I'm always accessing it from the Akashic records. And
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01:02:33.969 --> 01:02:38.579
I really love to teach people about basically like everything
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01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:41.619
related to consciousness expansion. So sometimes it comes through teaching
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01:02:41.659 --> 01:02:44.769
people how to access the Akashic records, um, how to
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01:02:45.230 --> 01:02:48.769
develop their psychic abilities right now. I'm like super into
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01:02:49.650 --> 01:02:53.590
talking about how to manifest and consciously timeline shift and
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01:02:53.630 --> 01:02:55.730
kind of like what quantum leaping is and all that
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01:02:55.829 --> 01:02:58.889
sort of stuff. But really it's because it's all because
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01:02:59.730 --> 01:03:02.769
I can remember a lot and I want other people
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01:03:02.809 --> 01:03:03.570
to remember with me.
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01:03:03.989 --> 01:03:04.210
Okay.
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01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:05.380
Excellent.
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01:03:05.460 --> 01:03:05.780
Excellent.
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01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.690
Where I wanted to start today is I wanted to
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01:03:08.750 --> 01:03:13.789
get your insights as to where we're at collectively with
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01:03:14.030 --> 01:03:19.300
our consciousness evolution. Ever since the past few years have
1138
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:23.719
occurred and all the incredible events and all the incredibly
1139
01:03:23.780 --> 01:03:28.260
stupid events that have also unfolded, there has been coinciding
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01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:33.300
an obvious awakening in people that many folks that I
1141
01:03:33.420 --> 01:03:36.280
never thought would have the level of awareness that they
1142
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:40.980
do now are showing great interest in things that they
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01:03:41.019 --> 01:03:43.880
have not before. And this is happening on a large scale.
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01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:46.989
And I'd like to get your thoughts on where we
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01:03:47.110 --> 01:03:50.809
are with that and where it could all be going
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01:03:51.170 --> 01:03:52.010
and why now?
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01:03:54.989 --> 01:03:55.429
Yeah.
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01:03:55.929 --> 01:03:56.170
Yes.
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01:03:56.369 --> 01:03:58.909
I mean, It's so exciting for me to hear that
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01:03:59.010 --> 01:04:01.780
because honestly, in my, I feel like I live in
1151
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.320
such a little bubble. So I live in rural Ontario
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01:04:05.500 --> 01:04:09.019
in Canada and I'm in a little farmhouse, so I'm
1153
01:04:09.059 --> 01:04:12.199
not even in town anymore. And I feel like I
1154
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:17.380
have curated the interactions in my life so effectively. that
1155
01:04:17.619 --> 01:04:22.280
i'm always talking to awakened people and i'm very seldom
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01:04:22.340 --> 01:04:24.880
talking to not awake people in a deeper you know
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01:04:24.980 --> 01:04:26.639
obviously like when i go to the grocery store and
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01:04:26.659 --> 01:04:30.969
stuff like that um and so i would say that
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01:04:31.090 --> 01:04:34.530
i'm not experiencing it firsthand personally because i'm always talking
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01:04:34.550 --> 01:04:37.150
to people who are awake but i did get the
1161
01:04:37.190 --> 01:04:39.670
message earlier this year i think it was around march
1162
01:04:39.710 --> 01:04:43.119
and april that there was going to be a tsunami
1163
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:49.659
of awakening this year. Just so many people awakening. And
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01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:53.460
I guess the way that I see it, I feel
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01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:57.159
very optimistic. And that's kind of my nature. But from
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01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:02.110
what I can see, there is, of course, a ton
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01:05:02.150 --> 01:05:05.329
of chaos. And then there is like the ridiculous ongoing
1168
01:05:05.409 --> 01:05:08.960
sideshow that we are always having paraded in front of us.
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01:05:09.809 --> 01:05:12.630
Um, but what we're.
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01:05:12.449 --> 01:05:17.710
In this process now where we are reassembling that, which
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01:05:17.750 --> 01:05:20.309
has been fragmented. So it feels to me like for
1172
01:05:20.369 --> 01:05:24.730
a long time with every subsequent incarnation, we were fragmenting
1173
01:05:24.769 --> 01:05:28.070
in our consciousness further and further and further. So becoming, um,
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01:05:28.889 --> 01:05:32.280
more and more disconnected in ourselves and like the more
1175
01:05:32.380 --> 01:05:35.929
fragmented we became, the less access we had to our
1176
01:05:35.989 --> 01:05:39.250
memories of who we really are and like what exists
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01:05:39.329 --> 01:05:41.329
outside of this earth construct.
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01:05:42.150 --> 01:05:44.289
And we are now in the.
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01:05:44.269 --> 01:05:48.989
Process of like receiving those memories back and almost like
1180
01:05:49.010 --> 01:05:53.190
re-coagulating in our consciousness. And that's only going to lead
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01:05:53.230 --> 01:05:55.829
to good things. But I also understand that the process
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01:05:55.889 --> 01:06:00.300
is going to be messy because, well, one of the
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01:06:00.340 --> 01:06:02.030
main things that I've been thinking about a lot lately
1184
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:05.119
is how much, you know, we still don't really want
1185
01:06:05.219 --> 01:06:10.119
to acknowledge and accept the dark roles that we have
1186
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:14.429
played or like not even necessarily like the super dark roles,
1187
01:06:14.489 --> 01:06:20.309
but just like the less savory experiences we may have
1188
01:06:20.349 --> 01:06:23.750
had in past lives, like things we wouldn't be proud of.
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01:06:23.849 --> 01:06:25.730
Like a lot of the time, you know, we love
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01:06:25.809 --> 01:06:30.579
to hear about how we were hard done by, we
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01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.980
were victimized. We were like, we were the good guy,
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01:06:34.019 --> 01:06:36.679
the downtrodden or whatever. Like, I feel like that's what
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01:06:37.030 --> 01:06:39.849
people really like to hear about those parts of themselves,
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01:06:39.929 --> 01:06:44.829
but it's a lot harder for us to acknowledge the,
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01:06:45.929 --> 01:06:51.969
the ways that we participated in. Yeah. Just like behaviors
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01:06:52.010 --> 01:06:55.440
and choices that aren't really, aren't really becoming of us
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01:06:55.539 --> 01:07:00.750
and aren't flattering. And so it's, as those pieces come forward,
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01:07:00.769 --> 01:07:03.710
there's like a denial of them, which then like, there's
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01:07:03.730 --> 01:07:08.030
this whole process where we almost like inadvertently create more shadow.
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01:07:08.469 --> 01:07:11.679
And then that feeds a lot of the existing dark entities.
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01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:14.239
And there's, there is a battle as I perceive it
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01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:18.980
here within this realm over our consciousness. So there's like
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01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:23.800
the dark, like hidden, like parasitic things that really just
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01:07:23.860 --> 01:07:26.639
want to keep us as a, a food source, so
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01:07:26.659 --> 01:07:29.420
to speak as a light source. And then there is
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01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:33.059
the part of us that is like reawakening and remembering.
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01:07:33.099 --> 01:07:36.920
But it's kind of like if somebody has, you know,
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01:07:36.940 --> 01:07:38.699
like let's say somebody gets into an accident and then
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01:07:38.739 --> 01:07:44.739
they have amnesia because of that and they're receiving their memories.
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01:07:45.530 --> 01:07:47.809
It's like starting to come back. It often comes back
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01:07:47.869 --> 01:07:50.769
in little fragments. Or if somebody has a repressed trauma memory,
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01:07:51.210 --> 01:07:53.510
it comes back in little fragments. It doesn't come back
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01:07:54.010 --> 01:07:57.610
often in one whole thing where everything makes sense. And
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01:07:57.670 --> 01:08:01.070
those fragments, even the pieces of information will get distorted
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01:08:01.150 --> 01:08:03.250
by a part of our psyche that's trying to protect
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01:08:03.570 --> 01:08:07.989
us from ourselves so that we don't like fully understand
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01:08:08.010 --> 01:08:10.000
the information that's coming through. And I think that's a
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01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:13.559
lot of where we're at with people who are newly awakening,
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01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:17.260
who probably weren't, like you said, like people that you
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01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:20.319
never thought would be operating at this level of consciousness,
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01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:22.909
like for them to turn on very quickly, it means
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01:08:22.970 --> 01:08:25.369
a lot of information is flooding in very quickly, but
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01:08:25.470 --> 01:08:28.890
also the Their human ego mind is not really prepared
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01:08:28.970 --> 01:08:31.010
to receive that information. So there's some kind of like
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01:08:31.069 --> 01:08:32.819
warping and denial that goes with it.
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01:08:33.850 --> 01:08:34.899
It's messy.
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01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:36.100
Yeah, yeah.
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01:08:36.140 --> 01:08:38.060
There's something you said a few times that is a
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01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:42.699
very important concept I want to get to. You said remembering,
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01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:45.720
remembering who we are, remembering our purpose, remember where we
1231
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:49.560
came from. And this concept has never made sense to
1232
01:08:49.619 --> 01:08:56.069
me until recent years when I started consciousness exploration, exploring
1233
01:08:56.109 --> 01:09:00.659
my own spirituality, making contact with my spirit guides. using
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01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:05.640
various plant medicines. And then eventually I start to understand
1235
01:09:05.699 --> 01:09:09.039
that I'm not from here, that I have a job
1236
01:09:09.100 --> 01:09:14.340
to do here, that that's part of remembering my soul's purpose.
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01:09:15.060 --> 01:09:17.609
And I'm coming more and more to understand what that
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01:09:17.670 --> 01:09:21.060
purpose is, what that job is with the deeper I
1239
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:25.760
go through these consciousness exploration and spiritual journeys, but I
1240
01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:29.439
completely understand what it means to remember now. And so
1241
01:09:29.460 --> 01:09:32.699
many people are, they ask me about that and they
1242
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:36.359
don't quite understand what it, what that means, what that
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01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:39.470
we're supposed to remember who and what we are.
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01:09:39.550 --> 01:09:39.810
Right.
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01:09:42.470 --> 01:09:47.390
Yeah. Well, I'm, I'm curious, like, what is your, like when,
1246
01:09:47.770 --> 01:09:52.590
as you, remember more of yourself? Like, can you go
1247
01:09:52.649 --> 01:09:56.069
more into what you perceive that is? Like, for example,
1248
01:09:56.090 --> 01:09:58.810
is it, yeah, just go ahead.
1249
01:09:58.829 --> 01:10:02.369
The biggest thing that I've become aware of is that
1250
01:10:02.489 --> 01:10:06.630
this reality that whatever we're in, it is not the,
1251
01:10:06.750 --> 01:10:09.630
it is not what you would consider our home. This
1252
01:10:09.890 --> 01:10:13.539
is an experiential reality or a creator reality that we
1253
01:10:13.699 --> 01:10:17.479
are in here to create an experience and And that
1254
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:20.819
somewhere along the way, there has been something mucked up
1255
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:24.420
in here. These lower vibrational entities that you were speaking
1256
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:29.789
of just now have sort of infiltrated aspects of this reality.
1257
01:10:29.829 --> 01:10:32.649
And it causes us to easily forget who we are
1258
01:10:32.710 --> 01:10:35.409
and why we're here, that we do come in here
1259
01:10:35.449 --> 01:10:37.949
with a purpose. And I believe that our purpose is
1260
01:10:38.029 --> 01:10:42.220
to help people. others remember and maybe get rid of
1261
01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:47.840
those sticky entities or help others free themselves from the
1262
01:10:47.979 --> 01:10:52.720
influence of those entities so that our own soul journeys,
1263
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:54.920
so each and every one of our soul journeys can
1264
01:10:55.020 --> 01:10:58.899
continue and that we can fully awaken and remember who
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01:10:58.939 --> 01:11:01.119
that we are. And that's where I'm at so far.
1266
01:11:01.930 --> 01:11:05.430
Yeah, totally. No, I see it the same way. So
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01:11:05.750 --> 01:11:07.170
I feel like there's a piece.
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01:11:06.970 --> 01:11:11.159
Of remembering that, So usually, I don't know. I don't
1269
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:12.619
know if this is how it goes right now for
1270
01:11:12.659 --> 01:11:15.319
people who are awakening right now. But in the past,
1271
01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:19.090
I feel like the first layer of remembering is where
1272
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:22.529
we sort of like acknowledge like, oh, I'm a soul.
1273
01:11:22.670 --> 01:11:26.630
And then we acknowledge like the reincarnation thing. Like, oh,
1274
01:11:26.670 --> 01:11:29.829
I've probably had other lifetimes. And so we kind of
1275
01:11:29.909 --> 01:11:32.789
start to piece together the through line of some of
1276
01:11:32.850 --> 01:11:36.130
the experiences we've had on earth. And then like you said,
1277
01:11:36.510 --> 01:11:39.699
then there's this big up jump where it's like, oh,
1278
01:11:39.939 --> 01:11:43.010
I also exist outside of earth. Like I exist outside
1279
01:11:43.050 --> 01:11:45.909
of this construct and not just in heaven or whatever,
1280
01:11:46.430 --> 01:11:52.069
but like there are other realms. There are other, like
1281
01:11:52.130 --> 01:11:55.420
there's much, much more to me. And there is a
1282
01:11:55.500 --> 01:11:58.239
reason that we're here. And I agree with you totally
1283
01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:03.319
that there's a dark overlay here. I call it the
1284
01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:08.310
false matrix. Yeah. Because to me, this realm is, like
1285
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:11.989
you said, I agree completely. It's a creator experience, like
1286
01:12:12.029 --> 01:12:15.590
an experiential reality where you come in almost like a sandbox,
1287
01:12:16.029 --> 01:12:18.829
you know, like those sandbox games, like Gary's Mod, like
1288
01:12:18.850 --> 01:12:22.409
you come in and there are some rules, but for
1289
01:12:22.449 --> 01:12:27.310
the most part, it's designed for us to just create
1290
01:12:27.470 --> 01:12:34.390
an experience without necessarily originally having had an objective beyond that.
1291
01:12:35.329 --> 01:12:39.119
And so to me, this realm is, its own like
1292
01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:43.319
organic holographic matrix. Matrix just meaning that has like an
1293
01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:45.850
organization to it. And it's like a hologram.
1294
01:12:45.899 --> 01:12:49.430
Some kind of cosmic programming as well that goes along
1295
01:12:49.470 --> 01:12:51.729
with it. Like cosmic algorithms.
1296
01:12:52.029 --> 01:12:53.630
Yeah, exactly.
1297
01:12:53.689 --> 01:12:54.210
That's right.
1298
01:12:54.310 --> 01:12:59.350
Like, yeah, it has things built into it so that
1299
01:12:59.909 --> 01:13:03.130
it has like ways that it functions. Like there, I
1300
01:13:03.149 --> 01:13:04.930
just call them rules because I don't really know the
1301
01:13:04.989 --> 01:13:09.409
right words to use, but- So there's an organic, beautiful
1302
01:13:09.649 --> 01:13:13.239
holographic matrix here. And then there is a false matrix
1303
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:16.420
overlay because I believe that this realm has been infiltrated
1304
01:13:16.500 --> 01:13:22.479
by dark consciousness that is on a journey of extreme,
1305
01:13:26.449 --> 01:13:31.689
I don't know, like extreme preservation of ego, extreme, you know, like.
1306
01:13:32.369 --> 01:13:35.529
The way I've seen it sometimes is that it, It
1307
01:13:35.590 --> 01:13:38.550
cannot create to the level we can. So it whispers
1308
01:13:38.609 --> 01:13:42.409
in our ears and uses us to create what it
1309
01:13:43.020 --> 01:13:45.800
would like the reality to be, if you know what
1310
01:13:45.859 --> 01:13:46.180
I mean.
1311
01:13:47.020 --> 01:13:47.279
Yes.
1312
01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:50.539
Sorry, I aspirated on my tea.
1313
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:52.000
Yes, 100%.
1314
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:56.579
That's totally exactly what I see. It can't create. But
1315
01:13:56.619 --> 01:13:59.680
the reason it can't create is because it has chosen
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01:13:59.939 --> 01:14:05.159
to distance itself so far from Source. or God or whatever,
1317
01:14:05.180 --> 01:14:10.180
you know, like the totality consciousness that, that this dark
1318
01:14:12.130 --> 01:14:17.329
thing and all of its little subsidiaries has chosen the
1319
01:14:17.390 --> 01:14:23.500
path of self over like unity. And because it has
1320
01:14:23.899 --> 01:14:27.979
chosen the path of self, that means that it prioritizes itself.
1321
01:14:28.659 --> 01:14:33.069
over anything else, regardless of any collateral damage to all
1322
01:14:33.130 --> 01:14:36.710
other aspects of creation. And in order to do that,
1323
01:14:37.149 --> 01:14:41.489
it has to like, basically, it's almost like surgically remove
1324
01:14:41.550 --> 01:14:45.270
its own heart chakra. Because the heart is what connects
1325
01:14:45.350 --> 01:14:47.840
us all to each other. That's where like when we
1326
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:51.279
feel empathic or, you know, if we're watching something on
1327
01:14:51.340 --> 01:14:54.600
TV or a movie and we're having an emotional reaction
1328
01:14:54.619 --> 01:14:56.380
to what the character is going through, we're feeling it
1329
01:14:56.420 --> 01:15:00.109
in our heart. So our heart is like necessary for
1330
01:15:00.189 --> 01:15:04.250
us to understand unity consciousness. So it has removed its heart,
1331
01:15:04.449 --> 01:15:06.930
but the heart is also necessary for the creation process.
1332
01:15:06.949 --> 01:15:10.409
So we can't create anymore, but it wants to, and
1333
01:15:10.430 --> 01:15:13.229
it wants to create the reality that serves itself. And
1334
01:15:13.250 --> 01:15:17.069
I see it the exact same way. It whispers lies
1335
01:15:17.270 --> 01:15:20.079
into our ears and it tries to make it sound
1336
01:15:20.100 --> 01:15:23.420
like our own voices so that we just believe those
1337
01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:26.039
lies and we start to manifest what it is suggesting
1338
01:15:26.100 --> 01:15:26.409
to us.
1339
01:15:27.460 --> 01:15:30.180
But that stuff doesn't benefit us. It hurts us.
1340
01:15:30.699 --> 01:15:37.189
And it benefits the self-serving motivations of this dark, out-of-control ego.
1341
01:15:38.590 --> 01:15:44.289
The way I understand and see events unfolding is that
1342
01:15:44.369 --> 01:15:47.710
we are in a very critical age of this spiritual
1343
01:15:47.750 --> 01:15:51.800
war that you were speaking of. And it will begin
1344
01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:57.250
to manifest into this physical reality that Whether folks believe
1345
01:15:57.310 --> 01:15:59.189
in it or not, I believe that we are heading
1346
01:15:59.250 --> 01:16:03.409
into a very critical time where there is a sort
1347
01:16:03.449 --> 01:16:07.510
of thinning of realities. We've already started to see some
1348
01:16:07.550 --> 01:16:12.100
of the insanity unfold with the fake alien nonsense and
1349
01:16:12.140 --> 01:16:14.359
some of the stuff that they're trying to throw out there.
1350
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:16.819
So there's a lot going on. We see it's all
1351
01:16:16.859 --> 01:16:20.359
building towards something. I understand completely that it is a
1352
01:16:20.500 --> 01:16:26.840
spiritual war, that these... lower vibrational adversarial forces are attempting
1353
01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:30.899
everything they can right now to, to gain as many
1354
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:34.649
people on their side and prevent this awakening on, on
1355
01:16:34.949 --> 01:16:36.569
our side. Do you see similar?
1356
01:16:36.590 --> 01:16:38.909
Oh yeah.
1357
01:16:38.989 --> 01:16:43.590
They're like, for sure. They're trying so hard to, um,
1358
01:16:43.729 --> 01:16:45.949
at very least muddy the waters. I think they have
1359
01:16:45.989 --> 01:16:50.319
accepted that they're, they can't stop this tidal wave of awakenings.
1360
01:16:50.789 --> 01:16:53.609
that is just going to keep like waves. There's never
1361
01:16:53.649 --> 01:16:56.510
just one, right? There's more and more waves of awakening.
1362
01:16:56.550 --> 01:17:00.689
So I think that they've accepted that it's not possible
1363
01:17:00.729 --> 01:17:03.880
to stop this at this time, but they're trying to
1364
01:17:04.340 --> 01:17:08.220
slow it down, reduce it, and then sort of pollute
1365
01:17:08.260 --> 01:17:12.859
the waters of our perceptions so that we interpret things incorrectly.
1366
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.779
I know you wanted to get into timelines today, and
1367
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:19.199
I think this ties into exactly what we are speaking
1368
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:22.920
about right now. I think there are multiple possible timelines
1369
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:26.600
that are unfolding as we speak. And it would be
1370
01:17:26.739 --> 01:17:31.760
up to us individually to shift consciousness together and achieve
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01:17:31.779 --> 01:17:36.020
an optimal timeline if possible. Is this something that you
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01:17:36.039 --> 01:17:36.640
would agree with?
1373
01:17:37.779 --> 01:17:39.579
Yes, it is totally up to us.
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01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.100
It's like, at least in terms of the human way
1375
01:17:43.140 --> 01:17:46.319
that it's playing out, because I also perceive that this
1376
01:17:46.380 --> 01:17:49.770
isn't only affecting earth. Like I, I feel like it's
1377
01:17:49.789 --> 01:17:52.329
a much bigger cycle that is affecting.
1378
01:17:52.350 --> 01:17:56.199
I don't know.
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01:17:56.220 --> 01:17:58.100
I don't even know what vocabulary to use. Cause I
1380
01:17:58.220 --> 01:18:01.739
don't even really believe in like the NASA representation of space.
1381
01:18:02.420 --> 01:18:03.939
Do you know what I mean? So I like, I
1382
01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:05.479
don't know what the word is, but.
1383
01:18:05.380 --> 01:18:08.880
Like, let's just say like the whole universe or all
1384
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:11.619
the galaxies or whatever. I feel like there's something so
1385
01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:17.050
much bigger happening, but for us as human beings, we,
1386
01:18:17.609 --> 01:18:18.369
we are the ones.
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01:18:18.250 --> 01:18:21.659
That, have to consciously choose.
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01:18:21.579 --> 01:18:26.279
And render the timeline that is the highest expression for ourselves.
1389
01:18:26.739 --> 01:18:29.539
I really strongly believe that nobody is coming to save us.
1390
01:18:30.140 --> 01:18:33.390
And I know that that probably is very offensive to
1391
01:18:33.470 --> 01:18:36.850
anybody who listens and is Christian, but like, I totally
1392
01:18:36.909 --> 01:18:39.550
believe in Christ. I have chosen myself for Christ. Like
1393
01:18:40.029 --> 01:18:43.510
there's no, if the, if the other option is Satan,
1394
01:18:43.590 --> 01:18:46.590
there is absolutely no question in my heart and my
1395
01:18:46.630 --> 01:18:50.909
mind I am for Christ. But I also believe that
1396
01:18:51.869 --> 01:18:54.369
the program that we're supposed to wait for Christ to
1397
01:18:54.409 --> 01:18:57.010
return and save us, it reminds me very much of Q.
1398
01:18:58.989 --> 01:19:02.350
There's also one that goes around in the new age
1399
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:05.899
community about the flash, the great, the grand solar flash
1400
01:19:05.939 --> 01:19:09.289
or something like that. And it's, it's to me also
1401
01:19:09.329 --> 01:19:12.060
feels like that program. If you ever hear somebody being like,
1402
01:19:12.189 --> 01:19:14.640
wait and trust the plant and just wait, just wait.
1403
01:19:15.100 --> 01:19:19.479
I feel like that is a huge red flag because
1404
01:19:20.500 --> 01:19:24.600
we have so much power and that's the whole, like
1405
01:19:24.659 --> 01:19:27.899
that right there is the crux of the lie that,
1406
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:31.399
you know, it's the foundation of the lie that branches
1407
01:19:31.479 --> 01:19:33.930
out into a billion other little lies is that we
1408
01:19:33.970 --> 01:19:37.449
are powerless and we are defenseless. And we are just
1409
01:19:37.489 --> 01:19:40.460
these little meek little lambs and we have to wait for,
1410
01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:43.600
you know, the more like even the idea of having
1411
01:19:43.619 --> 01:19:47.779
to wait for the Pleiadians to come. Like a lot
1412
01:19:47.819 --> 01:19:54.399
of this shit circulates and it's completely denying our active
1413
01:19:54.539 --> 01:19:57.560
agency in it. And we, as I perceive it, we
1414
01:19:57.619 --> 01:20:01.460
are the guardians of free will. So we exist right
1415
01:20:01.539 --> 01:20:04.680
at the like razor's edge of having to choose in
1416
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:08.239
every single moment between love and fear or good and
1417
01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:11.630
evil or what have you. And, you know, even in
1418
01:20:11.689 --> 01:20:15.949
our micro choices, that's the power that we have. And
1419
01:20:15.989 --> 01:20:21.100
we are also creators and there's, we can't not create.
1420
01:20:21.140 --> 01:20:23.479
We're all manifesting 100% of the time, day and night.
1421
01:20:25.939 --> 01:20:29.739
We're always manifesting. We're always choosing a timeline. We've just
1422
01:20:29.779 --> 01:20:33.989
been programmed into forgetting that that's what's happening so that
1423
01:20:34.010 --> 01:20:36.930
they can whisper in our ear. And then we unconsciously
1424
01:20:36.970 --> 01:20:40.170
manifest what they want us to manifest. But we are
1425
01:20:40.310 --> 01:20:43.489
still the power that is manifesting it. So we have
1426
01:20:43.510 --> 01:20:46.329
to choose and manifest the timeline that we want to.
1427
01:20:46.710 --> 01:20:49.430
rather than just waiting for the sun to explode all
1428
01:20:49.510 --> 01:20:51.449
over us and fill us all with light codes and
1429
01:20:51.489 --> 01:20:55.390
everything gets better. Even though I also still do believe
1430
01:20:55.470 --> 01:21:00.449
that the sun's activity is causing us to awaken. We
1431
01:21:00.489 --> 01:21:04.850
can't just passively expect another force to come do all
1432
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:06.109
the dirty work and rescue us.
1433
01:21:06.810 --> 01:21:11.579
Yes, 100%. Now, speaking of timelines and this programming that
1434
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:14.779
we're subjected to, I want to tell you a little
1435
01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:18.810
story that happened to me during a plant medicine experience
1436
01:21:18.930 --> 01:21:25.130
where my guides put me through a series of realities
1437
01:21:25.670 --> 01:21:30.510
and instructed me to try and understand which one was
1438
01:21:31.010 --> 01:21:36.340
my true reality, because they had multiple realities unfolding at once.
1439
01:21:36.500 --> 01:21:39.819
And it is extremely easy to get lost in the
1440
01:21:39.859 --> 01:21:43.569
wrong timeline. To get lost with the wrong information that'll
1441
01:21:43.590 --> 01:21:46.670
lead you down the complete wrong path and that becomes
1442
01:21:46.710 --> 01:21:51.630
your truth. But unfortunately, it's not the correct path that
1443
01:21:51.670 --> 01:21:54.100
you should have been on the whole time. Well, during
1444
01:21:54.140 --> 01:21:58.760
this experience, I was put through two different realities where
1445
01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:01.960
neither one of them was my correct timeline. One of
1446
01:22:02.020 --> 01:22:06.270
them was where in my reality, yes, this reality wasn't real,
1447
01:22:06.369 --> 01:22:10.340
but I was an artificial intelligence that was created to
1448
01:22:10.420 --> 01:22:14.840
save humanity, but then I was going to destroy humanity later.
1449
01:22:14.859 --> 01:22:17.729
The realities at the time that I was being put
1450
01:22:17.770 --> 01:22:21.329
through were so real that I completely believed that was
1451
01:22:21.390 --> 01:22:25.279
the truth, and I had to constantly be reminded... That
1452
01:22:25.619 --> 01:22:28.560
I had to use my discernment because how easy it
1453
01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:32.119
was to believe in these false realities. The other one,
1454
01:22:32.140 --> 01:22:35.930
I don't exactly remember what that reality was, but it
1455
01:22:35.989 --> 01:22:40.010
was very similar. I was told that I was something
1456
01:22:40.050 --> 01:22:42.770
that I was completely not, and I had a task
1457
01:22:42.810 --> 01:22:46.859
to do that was completely false. And I believed it wholeheartedly.
1458
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:49.680
It was like I lived that lifetime. I lived that
1459
01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:53.520
entire lifetime until... towards the end when I realized, oh,
1460
01:22:53.579 --> 01:22:56.640
this is not where I'm supposed to be. And then
1461
01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:59.260
I was put back into my body and see, yeah,
1462
01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:02.880
you see how important it is to know your correct timeline.
1463
01:23:03.579 --> 01:23:06.680
Amazingly and luckily enough, I was put through those experiences.
1464
01:23:06.939 --> 01:23:10.579
Now I can decipher if I'm on the correct path,
1465
01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:11.640
if you understand what I mean.
1466
01:23:11.659 --> 01:23:13.359
I do.
1467
01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:17.100
And that is so fascinating. And when I listen to
1468
01:23:17.149 --> 01:23:20.319
you say that, I'm like, wow, they gave you a
1469
01:23:20.380 --> 01:23:28.149
master level sort of exercise in cultivating discernment because I
1470
01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:30.970
think that that's going to be required.
1471
01:23:30.149 --> 01:23:30.909
More and more and more.
1472
01:23:30.930 --> 01:23:34.050
Because what you're saying, kind of what it brings to
1473
01:23:34.090 --> 01:23:37.090
mind for me is that I just see so many
1474
01:23:37.130 --> 01:23:41.939
campaigns to essentially like hijack lightworkers and starseeds and like
1475
01:23:41.979 --> 01:23:44.880
whatever words we want to use for it. But those
1476
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:49.579
of us who identify with We are here to remember
1477
01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:53.979
and we're here to help other people remember. I see
1478
01:23:54.020 --> 01:24:01.449
a lot of campaigns to hijack our consciousness. I don't know.
1479
01:24:01.510 --> 01:24:04.409
I always get nervous when I'm about to say this,
1480
01:24:04.470 --> 01:24:08.840
but honestly, I feel like there are a number of
1481
01:24:09.420 --> 01:24:14.640
influential people in the, at least in the spiritual community,
1482
01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:17.420
but I'm sure in the truth or community as well,
1483
01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:22.520
who are unknowingly hijacked and they think that they are
1484
01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:28.390
playing out their mission and they are feeding false information
1485
01:24:28.630 --> 01:24:32.909
out to their audience. And I'm not saying this from
1486
01:24:32.949 --> 01:24:35.090
a place that I'm judging them or I think I'm
1487
01:24:35.149 --> 01:24:37.539
better than them, And in fact, like this is one
1488
01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:40.359
of the things like I went through a very intense
1489
01:24:40.420 --> 01:24:43.060
dark night of the soul last year in November and
1490
01:24:43.100 --> 01:24:47.619
December where I like really had to go through everything
1491
01:24:47.659 --> 01:24:51.890
that I was channeling and like get very honest with myself.
1492
01:24:51.939 --> 01:24:54.649
Like is any part of this hijacked? Is any part
1493
01:24:54.670 --> 01:24:57.489
of what I'm saying to like grow an audience or
1494
01:24:57.569 --> 01:25:02.489
make more money or like is there any like impure
1495
01:25:02.670 --> 01:25:06.729
motivation behind it? because it doesn't come in in a
1496
01:25:06.770 --> 01:25:10.420
very overt way. It comes in very subtly like that hijacking.
1497
01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:15.539
And I'll say, I don't know, like I can't ever
1498
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:18.920
tell anybody for sure and certain that nothing I say
1499
01:25:18.939 --> 01:25:22.140
is hijacked, but I will always tell people, use your
1500
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:23.819
discernment when you listen to me and everybody else. And
1501
01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:26.060
anything that I say that does not sit with you,
1502
01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:28.369
let it go. I'm not trying to pretend that I'm
1503
01:25:28.430 --> 01:25:30.489
like preaching truth.
1504
01:25:30.789 --> 01:25:33.930
I just say what I am perceiving, you know?
1505
01:25:34.420 --> 01:25:36.000
But I, yeah, I think that there are a lot
1506
01:25:36.060 --> 01:25:40.100
of hijacked people who are, it's almost, it's similar to
1507
01:25:40.140 --> 01:25:44.420
like religious mania in a way, you know, like where,
1508
01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:46.930
you know, if you, you think that you've been given
1509
01:25:46.970 --> 01:25:52.449
a special appointment from God or something like that, but
1510
01:25:53.149 --> 01:25:56.949
it's ungrounded. Like there's just something about it that doesn't feel,
1511
01:25:56.970 --> 01:26:00.750
I don't know, like, where did you feel your discernment?
1512
01:26:00.789 --> 01:26:01.930
I always feel mine in my heart.
1513
01:26:02.729 --> 01:26:04.289
Yes, always in my heart.
1514
01:26:04.350 --> 01:26:04.989
Yes, always.
1515
01:26:05.130 --> 01:26:08.289
But recently, I've been, like you said, been put through
1516
01:26:08.569 --> 01:26:12.609
a series of crash courses to assist with my discernment.
1517
01:26:13.310 --> 01:26:16.859
And I've been channeling my guides for the past few
1518
01:26:16.939 --> 01:26:22.100
months for very close people that have asked me to
1519
01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:24.779
do this for them, just like my girlfriend and a
1520
01:26:24.829 --> 01:26:30.229
couple of friends. But I've... learned very deeply how to
1521
01:26:30.409 --> 01:26:36.050
discern even the, the channeling that I'm receiving because the
1522
01:26:36.109 --> 01:26:40.220
messages in the beginning were, some of them I knew
1523
01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:43.380
were just not true. I knew they were just BS
1524
01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:46.939
coming through. So the more I practiced, the learn, the
1525
01:26:46.979 --> 01:26:51.779
more I learned how to discern exactly what the message
1526
01:26:51.800 --> 01:26:54.239
is I'm supposed to be hearing and the correct one
1527
01:26:54.300 --> 01:26:58.590
for the person is. So it's, all heart-based. It's all
1528
01:26:58.649 --> 01:27:03.260
based off of intuition and practice. I think that practice
1529
01:27:03.310 --> 01:27:06.560
is the best way to get through to some of
1530
01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:08.359
these messages and understand them better.
1531
01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:13.199
Fully, fully, fully, fully. That's how I feel about it too.
1532
01:27:13.220 --> 01:27:16.600
It's very hard to articulate the feeling that comes in
1533
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:21.850
when you feel like something that isn't correct is It
1534
01:27:21.909 --> 01:27:25.270
just feels like a frequency that's off. It's a frequency,
1535
01:27:25.310 --> 01:27:30.479
like a vibration that is not smooth. And it's sometimes
1536
01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:33.899
very subtle and you can't even necessarily quite pinpoint like
1537
01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:37.840
what idea it's attached to or what word it came
1538
01:27:37.939 --> 01:27:38.380
out as.
1539
01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:40.779
It's just a, yeah.
1540
01:27:40.899 --> 01:27:43.220
Even when I think, even when I believe I've gotten
1541
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:47.850
the most clear, accurate message, I still know that there's,
1542
01:27:48.569 --> 01:27:52.989
a level to where it could be a deception or
1543
01:27:53.189 --> 01:27:55.130
a misinterpretation of some way.
1544
01:27:56.689 --> 01:28:02.079
I think, I mean, for myself to, cause I honestly in,
1545
01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:03.800
in November and December, I was like, am I going
1546
01:28:03.819 --> 01:28:05.239
to have to quit everything that I'm doing?
1547
01:28:05.619 --> 01:28:09.420
Like, cause I just couldn't imagine accidentally being.
1548
01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:13.810
A mouthpiece for like dark consciousness basically, you know? And
1549
01:28:13.909 --> 01:28:15.630
I was like, that's my worst nightmare. That's not what
1550
01:28:15.649 --> 01:28:18.340
I want to do at all. Um, but I, I
1551
01:28:18.539 --> 01:28:21.189
kept like, I prayed on it. I got closer to
1552
01:28:21.229 --> 01:28:24.890
Jesus than I ever, ever, ever have. And I prayed
1553
01:28:24.949 --> 01:28:26.949
and prayed and prayed on it. And I just kept
1554
01:28:26.970 --> 01:28:29.890
getting the answer. Like you, you're doing exactly what you're
1555
01:28:29.909 --> 01:28:30.689
supposed to do.
1556
01:28:31.149 --> 01:28:32.569
And for me, one of the.
1557
01:28:32.550 --> 01:28:34.729
Benefits is that I don't remember if I shared this
1558
01:28:35.029 --> 01:28:38.369
the first time I was on your show, but my
1559
01:28:38.470 --> 01:28:41.000
introduction to the Akashic record was through the death of
1560
01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:44.520
my newborn son in 2016. He died when he was
1561
01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:48.979
20 days old and that I just needed to understand
1562
01:28:49.060 --> 01:28:53.140
like why that happened. And so I found the Akashic
1563
01:28:53.180 --> 01:28:56.350
records and I learned and I, I went in and
1564
01:28:56.369 --> 01:29:01.010
I got my answer and it was so, so, healing.
1565
01:29:01.050 --> 01:29:03.529
The healing was so complete.
1566
01:29:02.970 --> 01:29:07.229
And it literally felt like God's grace. Like, like I
1567
01:29:07.899 --> 01:29:11.460
had just was given the grace of understanding why that happened.
1568
01:29:12.340 --> 01:29:15.579
And so every time, like that's kind of my anchor
1569
01:29:15.619 --> 01:29:17.619
point that I can bring myself back to and check
1570
01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:19.779
myself and be like, this is why you're doing it.
1571
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:23.779
That's your reason because you got, um, you were given, yeah,
1572
01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:27.539
like grace and mercy to not be trapped in like
1573
01:29:27.939 --> 01:29:31.039
the throes of horrible grief for your entire life. And
1574
01:29:31.100 --> 01:29:33.899
that's what you want to share with other people. So
1575
01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:35.979
I feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed to do,
1576
01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:40.600
but the way that I try to keep myself or
1577
01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:44.270
try to just try to check myself is that I'm really,
1578
01:29:44.399 --> 01:29:48.109
really trying to make sure that I'm not giving anybody
1579
01:29:48.229 --> 01:29:53.869
instructions to make changes or anything like that. I'm just
1580
01:29:53.909 --> 01:29:57.630
describing the energy as I feel it. Like for the collective,
1581
01:29:57.689 --> 01:30:00.239
for example, like I do monthly energy reports and I,
1582
01:30:00.609 --> 01:30:04.050
try to describe the energy, but I'm not trying to
1583
01:30:04.130 --> 01:30:07.770
tell people what to do with that. And I'm also
1584
01:30:08.409 --> 01:30:12.560
not definitely not trying to create a belief system that
1585
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:16.640
I want other people to follow. I, you know, which
1586
01:30:16.699 --> 01:30:19.420
is why I keep coming back to like, I'm just
1587
01:30:19.500 --> 01:30:21.779
trying my best to articulate what I see, but like,
1588
01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:23.180
I don't have the whole picture.
1589
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:24.359
These are not facts.
1590
01:30:24.460 --> 01:30:29.390
This is my subjective interpretation of very abstract energy.
1591
01:30:29.409 --> 01:30:29.489
Yeah.
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01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:31.560
Take it and do with it what you will.
1593
01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:37.359
Whereas some of the hijackery I see is like, there
1594
01:30:37.380 --> 01:30:40.680
are a couple of Hallmark qualities that I've noticed. And
1595
01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:44.140
one of them is a belief system. So like a
1596
01:30:44.279 --> 01:30:50.899
whole like construct of the universe and it's delivered factually.
1597
01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:54.159
Like this is a fact when, when nobody can verify
1598
01:30:54.220 --> 01:30:55.159
the shit at all.
1599
01:30:55.649 --> 01:30:55.890
Right?
1600
01:30:56.130 --> 01:30:58.869
But it's sold with this authority that I find a
1601
01:30:58.890 --> 01:31:04.090
little bit alarming personally. And then another hallmark is sometimes
1602
01:31:04.149 --> 01:31:08.489
I'll see certain people who have amassed an audience. I
1603
01:31:08.529 --> 01:31:10.930
can see how they are, the way they're speaking to
1604
01:31:10.970 --> 01:31:14.729
their audience is almost meant to like enthrall them so
1605
01:31:14.770 --> 01:31:21.729
that they stay almost like codependent to that person as
1606
01:31:21.789 --> 01:31:24.670
a source for higher information.
1607
01:31:24.510 --> 01:31:28.529
Rather than Do you know what I mean?
1608
01:31:28.569 --> 01:31:31.130
Like almost like they have a, they've almost like cast
1609
01:31:31.210 --> 01:31:34.829
a spell over their audience and their audience is like, oh, well,
1610
01:31:34.890 --> 01:31:37.109
if this person says that this is what's happening, then
1611
01:31:37.130 --> 01:31:40.310
that's just what's happening. And it's kind of, it's feeding
1612
01:31:40.350 --> 01:31:42.949
a darker thing that I think is puppeting through that person.
1613
01:31:43.930 --> 01:31:47.829
I see the exact same thing. This is not only
1614
01:31:47.909 --> 01:31:51.239
in the spiritual community, it's in the truth community. It's
1615
01:31:51.300 --> 01:31:56.590
in the UFO community. They have people that, have this
1616
01:31:57.229 --> 01:32:01.550
inner need to either spread disinformation. Sometimes they're just, they're
1617
01:32:01.569 --> 01:32:05.949
being paid to do it. Sometimes it's for their own notoriety.
1618
01:32:06.489 --> 01:32:09.189
But I, I agree with you that there are times
1619
01:32:09.270 --> 01:32:14.180
where dark forces are using people to, to spread information.
1620
01:32:14.220 --> 01:32:16.979
And this is the age of information right now. And
1621
01:32:17.619 --> 01:32:20.399
there has been so much muddying of the water that
1622
01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:25.670
I believe this community is In many aspects, completely lost
1623
01:32:25.869 --> 01:32:29.729
in the direction it's supposed to focus on. With everything
1624
01:32:29.810 --> 01:32:32.329
that is unfolding at the same time, that is the
1625
01:32:32.390 --> 01:32:38.020
desired effect. To have people on complete different paths, different timelines,
1626
01:32:38.140 --> 01:32:41.560
not aligned with the same goals. And it makes it
1627
01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:46.720
easier for the chaos to unfold. Where I think that's
1628
01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:51.979
part of our job. People like yourself, people like myself,
1629
01:32:52.149 --> 01:32:56.529
and others... that understand that there is a spiritual war
1630
01:32:56.770 --> 01:33:02.689
and the first task is to remember. And people are
1631
01:33:02.750 --> 01:33:05.649
skipping over that first task and going to, I'm a
1632
01:33:05.689 --> 01:33:08.850
guru already, and I know the meaning of life. So
1633
01:33:09.220 --> 01:33:11.840
if you haven't remembered yet, I think you better back
1634
01:33:11.939 --> 01:33:14.699
up and start taking a few steps before that, right?
1635
01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:16.420
Mm-hmm.
1636
01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:20.930
Totally, totally, totally, totally like it. The process of remembering.
1637
01:33:21.449 --> 01:33:26.029
I mean, for me, mine unfolded over the intense part
1638
01:33:26.069 --> 01:33:30.329
of it was over the entire decade of my twenties. And, um,
1639
01:33:30.369 --> 01:33:33.270
but it's still like, I still feel like I'm awakening today. Yeah.
1640
01:33:33.310 --> 01:33:35.609
But the, the, you know, the really alienating brutal part
1641
01:33:35.630 --> 01:33:45.510
was over 10 years. And, um, I just know that
1642
01:33:45.670 --> 01:33:49.529
remembering is a very uncomfortable process. And I'm not, I'm
1643
01:33:49.550 --> 01:33:52.489
also not trying to speak that over people. Like I'm
1644
01:33:52.529 --> 01:33:54.949
not trying to say you have to suffer or whatever,
1645
01:33:55.020 --> 01:34:00.600
but I just question if somebody feels like they're remembering,
1646
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:07.119
but it's not an uncomfortable process at times because like
1647
01:34:07.159 --> 01:34:10.800
I said, those memories don't come in, in order. They
1648
01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:13.489
don't come in, like they come in in these little weird,
1649
01:34:13.909 --> 01:34:17.350
fragments and then you have to decipher it and then
1650
01:34:17.409 --> 01:34:19.850
figure out like what the shit you're supposed to do
1651
01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:23.199
with this information and how you're supposed to function, have
1652
01:34:23.220 --> 01:34:26.260
a job, pay your freaking bills and be a human
1653
01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:28.359
while you're getting all this information.
1654
01:34:28.380 --> 01:34:32.000
It's, I think a lot of it is just misinterpretation.
1655
01:34:32.659 --> 01:34:35.420
If folks don't take it to the next step and
1656
01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:39.579
try and do further decipher the message and explore it,
1657
01:34:40.050 --> 01:34:43.470
if they just have a grand, beautiful spiritual experience where
1658
01:34:43.510 --> 01:34:46.930
this being approaches them and said, you are the Messiah
1659
01:34:46.989 --> 01:34:49.130
or something like that, you have a very special job
1660
01:34:49.170 --> 01:34:52.430
to do, they might form a cult and, you know,
1661
01:34:52.550 --> 01:34:55.920
start doing things that do not align with their soul
1662
01:34:55.979 --> 01:34:59.939
purpose just because they misinterpreted this spiritual message and didn't
1663
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:01.380
pursue it any further, right?
1664
01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:04.199
For sure, for sure.
1665
01:35:04.699 --> 01:35:08.560
And also that reminds me too, like, I, so... I
1666
01:35:08.600 --> 01:35:12.680
just actually completed something called a crown chakra clearing. I've
1667
01:35:12.699 --> 01:35:15.500
been working through the year through all of the seven
1668
01:35:15.539 --> 01:35:18.539
main chakras. And I'm about to go into the transpersonal
1669
01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:22.600
ones to talk about what they actually like, what they
1670
01:35:22.649 --> 01:35:25.489
do for us, how they're supposed to work. And then
1671
01:35:25.529 --> 01:35:28.949
also clear out. There's so much trauma in there. So
1672
01:35:29.010 --> 01:35:32.909
many parasites in our chakras, implants, crazy stuff like that.
1673
01:35:33.510 --> 01:35:35.729
And in the crown chakra, one of the things that
1674
01:35:35.789 --> 01:35:39.909
came up was a cult leader. And it's that person
1675
01:35:40.069 --> 01:35:45.479
is exactly that, that person who is an unintegrated spiritual ego.
1676
01:35:45.899 --> 01:35:48.859
So again, the heart is not the center of it.
1677
01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:53.380
I feel like that's why the heart is the most important.
1678
01:35:54.399 --> 01:35:56.819
I mean, that's the chakra that the dark ones have
1679
01:35:56.899 --> 01:36:00.479
removed from themselves. They've completely shut it off because the
1680
01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:03.920
heart is the truth. It's always the truth, the truth-o-meter
1681
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:08.060
and the bullshit-o-meter. And it's, if your heart isn't in
1682
01:36:08.119 --> 01:36:12.420
the right place, so to speak, you can get downloads
1683
01:36:12.979 --> 01:36:17.899
for sure. Your psychic abilities can activate, but you will
1684
01:36:18.350 --> 01:36:28.569
not be filtering it through a desire to enhance, uplift, serve, love,
1685
01:36:29.149 --> 01:36:31.210
like all creation, all consciousness.
1686
01:36:31.270 --> 01:36:32.930
To me, this is all about.
1687
01:36:34.250 --> 01:36:38.710
Restoring that, people's power to them, always returning their power
1688
01:36:38.770 --> 01:36:41.930
to them, never trying to take their power or be like,
1689
01:36:42.130 --> 01:36:45.350
I'm somehow, because I've been on a spiritual awakening path
1690
01:36:45.369 --> 01:36:48.510
since I was 18, I'm somehow more advanced than all
1691
01:36:48.529 --> 01:36:51.149
of you. No, mine just unfold. Mine just started a
1692
01:36:51.180 --> 01:36:53.939
long time ago and unfolded in a very slow manner.
1693
01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:56.760
And the people who are awakening now are like, you know,
1694
01:36:56.819 --> 01:36:59.920
getting like totally bitch slapped with it all. And, but
1695
01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:03.619
you know, like I, I've known people who've awakened very
1696
01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:08.670
recently and are, getting the same information that i'm getting
1697
01:37:08.770 --> 01:37:10.630
so i don't think time's a thing i don't think
1698
01:37:10.649 --> 01:37:14.340
there's any kind of hierarchy it's just that it has
1699
01:37:14.359 --> 01:37:15.960
to be integrated into.
1700
01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:17.640
The heart we have and i think it's also the
1701
01:37:17.699 --> 01:37:22.520
work that person puts into it for me personally i
1702
01:37:22.760 --> 01:37:26.279
once i started having my spiritual experiences i was so
1703
01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:30.579
enamored by everything i jumped in head for first started
1704
01:37:30.619 --> 01:37:36.340
meditating having very high dose plant medicine experiences facing all
1705
01:37:36.380 --> 01:37:39.800
my childhood trauma, just working as hard as I could
1706
01:37:39.859 --> 01:37:43.479
to understand why, why, what, what, what is this? What
1707
01:37:43.539 --> 01:37:46.710
is this? Why is this? Asking the questions when I'd
1708
01:37:46.770 --> 01:37:50.550
be out there in the spirit realms. And eventually the
1709
01:37:50.729 --> 01:37:54.829
answers would start unfolding a little bit faster because I
1710
01:37:54.869 --> 01:37:57.109
think we just have to show that initiative that we
1711
01:37:57.149 --> 01:38:00.189
want those answers. Totally.
1712
01:38:00.369 --> 01:38:03.130
And the piece that you said, well, there's two pieces
1713
01:38:03.210 --> 01:38:06.010
I really, really love. The first one was facing your
1714
01:38:06.029 --> 01:38:11.710
childhood trauma. We absolutely cannot say that we are delivering
1715
01:38:11.810 --> 01:38:13.729
any kind of spiritual message if we're not willing to
1716
01:38:13.750 --> 01:38:15.810
look at our shit. And we all have a big
1717
01:38:15.909 --> 01:38:18.789
Akashic accumulation of shit, all of us. And it doesn't
1718
01:38:18.829 --> 01:38:20.510
mean that we're bad people or anything like that.
1719
01:38:20.609 --> 01:38:23.670
It's just what's going on here.
1720
01:38:24.390 --> 01:38:25.909
You have to be willing to look at it and
1721
01:38:25.970 --> 01:38:29.949
integrate it. And then the other piece is just that
1722
01:38:31.979 --> 01:38:35.779
willingness to take initiative and not let ourselves get discouraged.
1723
01:38:35.819 --> 01:38:39.279
I see this with psychic development a lot, that people
1724
01:38:39.350 --> 01:38:43.170
will sit down and try one meditation once and be like, oh,
1725
01:38:43.189 --> 01:38:45.010
I'm just not psychic or like, oh, it's just not
1726
01:38:45.069 --> 01:38:48.020
working or I teach the Akashic records and people get
1727
01:38:48.180 --> 01:38:51.810
very discouraged very quickly because they don't have this like
1728
01:38:52.050 --> 01:38:57.649
profound experience the very first time. But it's like, to me,
1729
01:38:57.710 --> 01:39:00.890
I'm like, do you even understand what we have been through?
1730
01:39:01.010 --> 01:39:03.710
Like our magic is so suppressed.
1731
01:39:03.970 --> 01:39:06.229
It's been, we have been like.
1732
01:39:06.970 --> 01:39:13.069
Oh my God, centuries, millennia of being persecuted, tortured, executed,
1733
01:39:13.090 --> 01:39:17.470
or like, showing any kind of magic or even being
1734
01:39:17.550 --> 01:39:20.409
accused of showing any kind of magic or psychic abilities
1735
01:39:20.489 --> 01:39:23.859
or direct connection to the divine. And so we are
1736
01:39:23.899 --> 01:39:25.699
like full of trauma, full of fear.
1737
01:39:25.760 --> 01:39:27.079
We have suppressed our.
1738
01:39:27.220 --> 01:39:30.159
Own gifts so much, and it's going to take time
1739
01:39:30.239 --> 01:39:32.390
to be able to bring those out. And we have
1740
01:39:32.430 --> 01:39:35.210
to like show up and show the initiative and just
1741
01:39:35.409 --> 01:39:37.869
be there for it and cultivate that ability. And like
1742
01:39:37.909 --> 01:39:40.649
you said, eventually the information starts coming a lot faster,
1743
01:39:41.050 --> 01:39:44.510
but it's like, It's like any new skill, really. Like
1744
01:39:44.520 --> 01:39:45.909
if you want to learn how to play the piano
1745
01:39:45.930 --> 01:39:48.529
and you've never played before, you're not going to sit
1746
01:39:48.569 --> 01:39:51.170
down and play like Mozart your very first time. You're
1747
01:39:51.189 --> 01:39:52.689
going to sound like crap and you're going to be
1748
01:39:52.710 --> 01:39:54.949
able to play chopsticks and that's it. And you have
1749
01:39:54.970 --> 01:39:57.029
to just keep showing up for it. And eventually you
1750
01:39:57.050 --> 01:39:59.069
get better and your fingers know where the keys are
1751
01:39:59.109 --> 01:40:00.949
and they move with more fluidity and.
1752
01:40:00.899 --> 01:40:01.699
Grace, you know?
1753
01:40:02.319 --> 01:40:03.060
Yes, 100%.
1754
01:40:03.060 --> 01:40:06.399
You said something earlier that's very interesting. I think it's
1755
01:40:06.460 --> 01:40:10.380
important to explore a little bit. And that's clearing chakras.
1756
01:40:11.180 --> 01:40:15.500
and how these negative attachments always attack the heart chakra.
1757
01:40:15.539 --> 01:40:20.329
And I've experienced this firsthand with my own attachments and
1758
01:40:20.829 --> 01:40:24.649
other attachments that I've assisted with for other people, that
1759
01:40:24.949 --> 01:40:28.229
it is, that is definitely the chakra that they attach to.
1760
01:40:28.789 --> 01:40:35.720
And it causes a blockage of Emotion, creativity, detrimental things
1761
01:40:35.739 --> 01:40:37.840
that affect you in a daily life that you may
1762
01:40:37.880 --> 01:40:41.659
not even notice because of that blockage. Talk a little
1763
01:40:41.699 --> 01:40:45.220
bit about how you help people clear some of this stuff.
1764
01:40:47.340 --> 01:40:51.760
Yeah. So I do it individually and I do it
1765
01:40:52.420 --> 01:40:56.930
in a group, sort of a group way. So individually,
1766
01:40:58.670 --> 01:41:02.529
back in 2020... after I'd done so many Akashic records readings,
1767
01:41:03.270 --> 01:41:09.500
I was given a modality called multidimensional holographic matrix repatterning.
1768
01:41:09.939 --> 01:41:12.439
And I didn't know what, what that even meant when
1769
01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:17.079
I got it, but I was like basically like told,
1770
01:41:17.100 --> 01:41:21.130
I don't know. I just knew from my guides that
1771
01:41:21.409 --> 01:41:25.930
I needed to do this and start performing this for people.
1772
01:41:26.590 --> 01:41:28.829
And yeah, what it turned out to be was they
1773
01:41:28.850 --> 01:41:31.920
would just direct me to different places in the person's
1774
01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:36.500
like holographic matrix. So that's comprised of your physical body,
1775
01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:38.539
your emotional body, mental.
1776
01:41:38.300 --> 01:41:41.899
Body, spiritual body, aura, etheric body.
1777
01:41:42.319 --> 01:41:48.189
And then also, um, uh, I just lost the last
1778
01:41:48.229 --> 01:41:54.710
piece or our chakras, obviously most important, our chakras. And, Uh, so,
1779
01:41:55.090 --> 01:41:58.149
and often they would just direct me to the main chakras.
1780
01:41:58.229 --> 01:42:01.109
Sometimes I would go into these like accessory chakras or
1781
01:42:01.210 --> 01:42:04.550
other parts of our field to repattern it and restore it.
1782
01:42:04.859 --> 01:42:07.199
But most of the time I would do one hour
1783
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sessions at the time. And the, the whole hour was
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spent somewhere in the main chakras trying to clear out
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01:42:13.279 --> 01:42:16.840
those ones. And the reason, and then if people came
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01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:20.020
back for another session, then we could work on other things.
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01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:23.079
And I remember, quickly realized that it's because our main
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01:42:23.119 --> 01:42:27.739
chakras are full of trauma and dark parasites and implants
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01:42:27.779 --> 01:42:31.510
and things like that. So if somebody is coming individually,
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01:42:32.010 --> 01:42:34.350
what I do is I just tune into their Akashic
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01:42:34.369 --> 01:42:37.510
records and then tune into their holographic matrix. And I
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01:42:38.069 --> 01:42:41.789
allow myself to be guided to which one needs to
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01:42:41.829 --> 01:42:43.930
get worked on first. And I'll do my best to
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01:42:44.010 --> 01:42:47.390
articulate what I'm seeing there and feeling there. Sometimes it'll
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01:42:47.430 --> 01:42:51.630
be ancestral stuff or past life stuff. Sometimes It's from
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01:42:51.670 --> 01:42:55.649
this life. Sometimes I'm just describing like the energy that
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01:42:55.689 --> 01:42:59.350
I feel. And then I'm just guided through a process
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01:42:59.390 --> 01:43:01.229
to clear it out. And it's always going to be
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different for every person in the group processes. I tune
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into the collective chakra and type out these like long,
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01:43:13.829 --> 01:43:16.729
like sections of what needs to be cleared. So what
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01:43:16.770 --> 01:43:20.489
I see, so like in the crown, I saw like the,
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01:43:21.250 --> 01:43:24.430
the cult leader. There's a lot of other stuff that
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01:43:24.470 --> 01:43:27.460
I saw in the third eye. There were a lot
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01:43:27.479 --> 01:43:28.819
of parasites in the throat.
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01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:29.560
Holy moly.
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01:43:29.659 --> 01:43:32.279
I did not realize how many parasites there are in
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01:43:32.300 --> 01:43:36.140
the throat. And, you know, like examples of collective throat
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01:43:36.199 --> 01:43:42.369
chakra stuff would be being hung, being beheaded, being choked,
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01:43:42.449 --> 01:43:48.460
being censored. being forced to say something that isn't your truth,
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01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:52.789
suppressing your own truth, like all those kinds of things.
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01:43:53.149 --> 01:43:55.210
So I just try to speak to them so that
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01:43:55.229 --> 01:43:57.489
it triggers something in their conscious mind and then into
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01:43:57.510 --> 01:44:00.789
their subconscious mind. And I turn it into like, it's
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01:44:00.810 --> 01:44:03.680
almost like a meditation track. So it goes along with
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01:44:04.399 --> 01:44:09.159
singing bowls and binaural beats provided by the amazing Ben Carroll.
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01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:12.439
And so people can just listen to it on their
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01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:14.800
own as many times as they need it. And then
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01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:17.729
at the end, I like re-pattern and I bring in
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01:44:17.770 --> 01:44:20.390
a whole bunch of light into that chakra so that
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01:44:20.409 --> 01:44:22.329
I'm not just emptying it out and leaving it as
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01:44:22.369 --> 01:44:24.770
an empty space for other shit to come in. But,
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01:44:25.130 --> 01:44:26.930
you know, so that it can get filled up with
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01:44:26.970 --> 01:44:29.449
their own light and their own consciousness. And one of
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01:44:29.489 --> 01:44:33.510
the things I emphasize is like that every person fully
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01:44:33.670 --> 01:44:37.380
occupying that chakra so that nothing can get into that
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01:44:37.479 --> 01:44:41.500
space without their awareness and their explicit permission and or
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01:44:41.539 --> 01:44:44.510
their invitation to It's like, it's their space.
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01:44:45.890 --> 01:44:49.050
Now, what is the difference between parasites and implants?
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01:44:51.350 --> 01:44:54.189
Um, so parasites, I mean, I know you have like
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01:44:54.229 --> 01:44:57.439
personal experience with parasites because you shared that on my podcast.
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01:44:57.460 --> 01:44:59.020
So, so you know what that's all about.
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It, to me, what it feels like is a, it's
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01:45:03.220 --> 01:45:04.859
like a creature. Like a lot of the time they
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01:45:04.880 --> 01:45:10.000
look like leeches or eels, um, or sometimes like They
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01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:12.199
really look like centipedes a lot of the time too,
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01:45:12.229 --> 01:45:14.850
like just something dark and slithery. And I don't know
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01:45:14.890 --> 01:45:17.949
if that's the way I process it because those things.
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01:45:17.789 --> 01:45:18.609
Are creepy to me.
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01:45:20.010 --> 01:45:23.090
Or if that's just literally what they look like. But regardless,
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01:45:23.229 --> 01:45:28.979
it's a dark consciousness outside of the person. So it's
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01:45:29.060 --> 01:45:31.739
not just a weird shadow aspect of yourself that you
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01:45:31.760 --> 01:45:32.600
haven't dealt with yet.
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01:45:33.100 --> 01:45:34.720
It's something outside of you.
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01:45:34.640 --> 01:45:39.029
That has gotten in and it's usually quietly living there
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01:45:39.050 --> 01:45:42.340
and and feeding off of your unresolved trauma in your
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01:45:42.399 --> 01:45:45.739
chakra and causing you that chakra to.
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01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:46.739
Not work properly.
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01:45:46.859 --> 01:45:51.439
So like, for example, if you have a solar plexus chakra, um,
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01:45:52.010 --> 01:45:55.659
that has a parasite in it, then a person would
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01:45:56.310 --> 01:46:01.810
either experience it as just having like chronic low confidence
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01:46:02.390 --> 01:46:06.010
to the point where it's debilitating. They can't really fulfill their,
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01:46:06.229 --> 01:46:10.689
their potential or, um, Sometimes it would be like a
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01:46:10.710 --> 01:46:14.229
Kanye West level, like egomania kind of, you know, like
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01:46:14.270 --> 01:46:19.079
just like a total imbalance on either side. Whereas an implant,
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01:46:19.359 --> 01:46:23.819
I don't necessarily typically see them in the chakras proper,
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01:46:24.579 --> 01:46:27.270
but I see them in the lines between the chakras.
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01:46:27.310 --> 01:46:31.569
So they often look like clips or pins that interrupt
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01:46:31.609 --> 01:46:35.189
the flow of energy. And it's meant to like one
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01:46:35.229 --> 01:46:37.829
of the main ones I found is in between the
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01:46:37.869 --> 01:46:41.310
solar plexus and the heart so that as the Kundalini
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01:46:41.390 --> 01:46:45.630
energy is rising, it gets interrupted.
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01:46:45.689 --> 01:46:46.770
The circuit is interrupted.
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01:46:46.789 --> 01:46:48.909
It would be like putting a pin through literally an
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01:46:48.979 --> 01:46:53.260
electrical wire, like the electricity can't pass any further beyond
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01:46:53.300 --> 01:46:56.960
that pin. And so rather than ascending up into the heart,
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01:46:57.939 --> 01:47:00.500
we just kind of like circulate back down and we
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01:47:00.859 --> 01:47:05.229
just cycle through the lower three chakras, which really Those
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01:47:05.270 --> 01:47:07.149
are like the very human body chakras.
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01:47:07.890 --> 01:47:10.750
And those are not in your physical body.
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Although I know that there are physical implants that happen too,
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but the ones that I'm seeing related to the chakras
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are inserted in the astral body template. So they're not
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necessarily in everybody's astral body, but it looks to me
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01:47:29.229 --> 01:47:33.710
like there are astral templates and I can't quite discern like,
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01:47:35.020 --> 01:47:37.539
how many templates are there and like who has what
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01:47:37.579 --> 01:47:41.119
template or whatever. But some astral body templates will have
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01:47:41.300 --> 01:47:47.560
different implants in them that cause an interruption in that,
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in all the people who have that astral template.
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Let's talk about accessing psychic abilities. For myself, I have,
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as I told you, even on your show, I've been
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01:48:01.970 --> 01:48:07.119
having a series of spiritual experiences from meditation to plant medicine.
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As of recently, I've been getting messages in my dreams.
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And every couple of weeks, I'll have a plant medicine
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01:48:16.229 --> 01:48:20.680
experience where I will go in to a astral classroom
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and be taught by my guides not only consciousness and
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01:48:27.399 --> 01:48:36.569
psychic abilities but relationship tools healing childhood trauma accelerating my
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01:48:36.750 --> 01:48:42.470
own understanding of different spiritual teachings and concepts and understanding.
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Every experience is I'm literally now in this astral classroom.
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My guides are yelling notes at me and I sit
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01:48:52.039 --> 01:48:55.000
there with a pen and paper and literally write down
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01:48:55.140 --> 01:48:59.479
step by step each of the lessons that I'm being told.
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Because if I don't write this down, when the experience
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is over, it's all gone. I don't have anything. So
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I sit there, I take notes during the experience. Afterwards,
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I'll have the notes. I will be able to implement
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these practices into this matrix reality. And then when I
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01:49:15.670 --> 01:49:18.029
go to bed at night, I'll start to get further
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downloads on how to proceed from there. So it's been
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01:49:22.189 --> 01:49:25.840
very extraordinary, the series of events that have unfolded that
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01:49:25.880 --> 01:49:29.670
have led me to come to a more to a
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01:49:29.689 --> 01:49:34.939
better understanding of my own abilities and consciousness abilities for you.
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How do you assist people to access their own psychic abilities?
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Well, that's freaking amazing. Like I've never had that. I've
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01:49:45.380 --> 01:49:48.439
never gone to an astral classroom before. That is so cool.
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01:49:48.479 --> 01:49:50.720
So you are taking notes like while you're having the
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01:49:50.739 --> 01:49:51.560
experience or.
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While I'm having the experience.
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Yes.
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It's like the, they actually say, all right, take a
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01:49:55.699 --> 01:49:58.039
note now. Don't, don't worry about that. We'll get to
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that later, but take this note and very specific stuff now.
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Wow.
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That's amazing.
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So the way that I teach it is I guess for,
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I think I'm really good and I'm, I'm here to
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teach it for people that don't have those kinds of
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experiences because um and so i feel like i'm teaching
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it in a.
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How would i put it i feel like i'm really
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coaxing out.
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People's psychic abilities those those hidden terrified psychic abilities my
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01:50:30.819 --> 01:50:35.060
own psychic experience was more mundane than that i i
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01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:37.279
guess that's it like my the way i teach it
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is more mundane and more grounded so if you're not
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like being taken to astral classrooms and directly downloaded the information.
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It doesn't mean you're not psychic, but forever. That's what
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I thought.
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I thought I wasn't psychic because I wasn't having those experiences,
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but that's not actually true. It's just that some people
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experience that and some people don't. So mine was a
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very like, it was a slower process of, it almost
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01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:11.720
felt like less mystical, you know, like, like, inward and
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01:51:11.779 --> 01:51:14.560
imaginary and very subtle and very quiet. And I had
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to learn how to amplify and turn up the volume
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01:51:17.659 --> 01:51:19.949
on that stuff and turn down the volume of my doubts,
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01:51:20.369 --> 01:51:23.310
turn down the volume of this, like, you know, all
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01:51:23.350 --> 01:51:26.470
this shit that we do so that I could hear
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or see or receive that stuff better. And when I'm
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01:51:29.369 --> 01:51:31.560
teaching people how to do it, I feel like that's
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often where I'm teaching them is from the ground up
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where they feel like they're not getting anything. And I
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01:51:38.899 --> 01:51:41.359
can find the little pieces of what they're getting and
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teach them how to amplify that because our attention is
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01:51:45.449 --> 01:51:48.789
the most, I think it's the most powerful currency in
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01:51:48.869 --> 01:51:54.109
this reality, our attention. So when we get something, you know,
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01:51:54.310 --> 01:51:57.510
like if somebody is doing a guided meditation to have
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a third eye experience, let's say, and they don't, They
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01:52:01.159 --> 01:52:04.199
feel like they're not getting anything, but actually what they're
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getting is like little patterns of light and maybe little
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ripples of color. Their unwillingness to acknowledge that basically what
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01:52:16.079 --> 01:52:19.260
happens is like you amplify the doubt and you amplify
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01:52:19.279 --> 01:52:22.439
the experience of not getting anything, but you don't amplify
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the experience of getting something. And like you've explained several times,
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like the more you show up for it and the
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more you do it, the more information comes. So even
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just as you implement the techniques that they teach you,
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then you get more downloads because you've basically demonstrated that
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you take it seriously and you value it. So I'm
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really good at taking those initial little glimmers of psychic
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things and like a little ember on a like one
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of those Flint started fires on a rainy day when
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01:52:54.539 --> 01:52:57.060
everything's working against you and like holding that one and
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blowing on it and like building up a flame from
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there and building a fire from there.
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And, um, my techniques I'd say.
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Are more.
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Ground. I don't know the grounded distance so far as, um,
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they don't have to be experienced directly in the astral. Um,
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they're like, Yeah, I don't really know how to put it,
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but maybe I've said enough.
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No, that's great. That's perfect. As far as integrating this
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into what we're experiencing now and getting on the optimal timeline,
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as well as bringing it back to remembering who we
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are and our true purpose, what is some of the
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advice that you'd give people to access the correct timeline
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and information that's coming through? How do you do that?
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I feel like that's actually one of my big gifts
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is timeline. I just understand time and I understand timelines
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and I experience it. And so like if somebody asks
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me about, you know, their future potential, I can see
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a whole plethora of timelines come up and I can
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see which ones are the most likely ones that they're
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going to end up playing out based on where they
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are and which ones will be preferable and how to
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move them there. And I can also see it in
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the past in that same way to like multiple different
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past timelines. Like the past is super cool because we
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tend to think of it as like done and dusted.
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It's over.
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It happened.
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There's nothing we can do about it. But there are
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as many past timelines as there are future timelines. But
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the one that we're running the story through is the
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one that then informs our present, which informs our future.
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And so we can just like move on to a
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different past timeline and change our current reality.
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So.
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In terms of like helping people to live their highest
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timeline or choose their highest timeline. I mean, first of all,
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I think the number one thing is that we have
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01:54:53.079 --> 01:54:57.260
to let ourselves dream and dream big, like big, because
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so many people don't, they just like, like I can
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even think of people in my life.
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If I were to ask them a question of like,
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what would you love?
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Like if you got, you know, you won the lottery
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and you could do anything you wanted for, Five years.
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Like money was non-issue. What would you do? And they
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don't even know how to answer that question.
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And a lot of the time they just shut me
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down and tell me I'm annoying for asking questions like
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that all the time because they are so, we're so
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trained to try to avoid disappointment, I guess. And it
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makes sense because our ancestors have suffered through like just
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unimaginable horrors and just like terrible poverty and no opportunities, right?
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So it makes sense to me that we have been
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programmed in that way. But if we're not willing to dream,
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then we are going to be stuck on the same
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probable timelines and nothing really changes. So first of all,
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we have to dream and dream huge, like ridiculous. Like
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sometimes I tell people like, you want a twirly slide
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coming out of the fourth floor of your house down
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to the ground as an escape hatch?
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Dream that.
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Why not?
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Why wouldn't you include that in your dream? Oh, because
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it's not possible or that's stupid or it would cost
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so much. Like money isn't even real.
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Like this is a dream. Do you understand? Like that's
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not a thing.
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Let yourself imagine what would be the most amazing. And
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then remove the concept that living out your highest timeline
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is somehow selfish because it's not at all. Whenever you
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live out your highest timeline, you elevate like all of
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the people that you're quantumly entangled with. You elevate all
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of your past lives, all of your ancestry. You lift
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everybody up into that higher strata as well. So, you know,
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let yourself do it. And then to me, it feels
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like cultivating an amazing and like super exciting level of
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awareness of self and the texture of this dream. Everything
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that happens in our lives is symbolic. We take it
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at face value most of the time. We interpret things
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very literally, but everything is symbolic. So if you get
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into a fender bender, you have to ask yourself why
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that happened in the same way that you would ask
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it if it happened in a dream.
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You'd be like, why did I get in a fender
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bender in my dream?
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You would be looking for this symbolic meaning, but it
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is just as symbolically meaningful in waking reality.
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I just wanted to get your thoughts on something. When
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I realize that I'm on my highest timeline or on
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an optimal timeline, it seems to me like the events
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01:57:38.069 --> 01:57:41.970
have already played out, but I'm just experiencing them. And
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I'm just kind of along for the ride and enjoying
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it at the time. Does that make sense to you?
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Oh, 100%. Totally.
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Because the timeline is already written. And it's already happened.
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And probably it was created by yourself anyway. And so
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then exactly, it's almost like floating on, I think this
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is an Abraham Hicks thing, if I'm recalling correctly, but
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it feels like floating on the lazy river at a
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water park or a beautiful Canyon, you know, like you're
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just doing your thing and enjoying it. And the current
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of it has already got you because it already exists.
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It was our, it's already created. I think the part
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that most people really struggle with when they're shifting onto
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their highest timeline or an optimal timeline is they they.
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Don't want to.
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Fully believe that they are like they are in power
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here and there's like a hang-up of like if I
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01:58:41.340 --> 01:58:43.420
was truly in power then why would this thing have
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happened or almost like it's saying like that other people
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01:58:48.510 --> 01:58:52.210
have no fault or no part in anything like people
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01:58:52.250 --> 01:58:54.949
get pretty hung up on that and there there's a
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01:58:55.090 --> 01:58:58.770
limit on how deeply they want to look at their
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01:58:59.279 --> 01:59:01.890
own stuff and their own selves and their own triggers.
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And so if you can kind of understand that you're
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not really you anyway, like you're not really, you know,
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you're not really Chris, as you know, I'm not really Amy,
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we're just playing this tiny, tiny role relative to who
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01:59:16.109 --> 01:59:21.979
we actually are. And that, like, if you can see
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yourself as very fascinating, then you're it's like you can remove,
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01:59:28.180 --> 01:59:30.840
like there's no, nobody's blaming you for the shitty things
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that you've been through. It's just like realizing like, wow,
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01:59:34.560 --> 01:59:39.949
when we're deeply immersed in the dream, we unconsciously create
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01:59:39.970 --> 01:59:43.909
some horrendous things because we don't know. And we're, we're
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01:59:43.949 --> 01:59:47.069
not like it. So it is a feeling of being victimized,
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01:59:47.310 --> 01:59:51.250
but the, the irony is that we're being victimized by
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01:59:51.289 --> 01:59:56.119
our own unconscious consciousness. So it's, Yeah, I feel like
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that's kind of the real key piece that people stop.
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That's where they stop themselves is.
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The feeling of the texture of reality, the texture of
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02:00:09.210 --> 02:00:11.939
this dream, the way that it moves, the currents of
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02:00:12.079 --> 02:00:14.000
energy as it flows through it, the power of your
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02:00:14.039 --> 02:00:16.939
own attention, and then decoding yourself and just being like,
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I'm freaking so interesting.
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Why do I do that? Why do I have that reaction?
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Why do I think this thing? Why is this the
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conclusion that I come to? Why do I keep repeating
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02:00:24.399 --> 02:00:27.550
this pattern? But from a space of like, there's no judgment,
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literally just observer mode, like, huh, that's very interesting. And
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when you kind of combine all those things, it becomes
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very easy to detect your highest timeline. It literally just
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feels like joy. It just feels like where your heart
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is calling you, which I know sounds like exceedingly cheesy,
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but that's how I experience it.
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Yeah, 100%. And one last thing to close on. For me,
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I found that it is completely easy to to forget
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all the lessons I've learned, to get sucked back into
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this matrix, to get sucked back into this lower vibrational
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reality just by participating in some of the lower vibrational
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behaviors that you used to. And the more you participate
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in those, the more you forget, the more you forget
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your mission, the more you forget Who you are, the
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easier it is to just continue living this matrix reality.
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But if you constantly are seeking and remind yourself that
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this is not your home, this is not your true
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purpose here, you're able to remember on a larger scale.
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And you have to be persistent and want to work
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at your consciousness evolution, basically, right?
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Yeah, I agree. And I experienced it the same way.
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And I would honestly say that I'm never totally unconscious
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anymore because I'm literally thinking about this shit 100% of
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the time. 100% of the time. If I'm giving my
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kids a bath, I'm thinking about it. If I'm making dinner,
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I'm thinking about it. It's not just when I'm at
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work and doing readings for people. This is just how
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I see the world. And that doesn't mean that I
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don't get triggered and it doesn't mean that I don't
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like still have very, very human experiences and perceptions because
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I do, but I just catch myself in it very quickly.
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So yeah, it's like, it is, it's, it's not even
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a lifestyle. Like that's not accurate. It's literally a consciousness
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shift where you're just willing to see reality differently. And
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that's how you see it now. And you'd no longer
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go back to seeing it unconsciously.
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Yeah.
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Just like you're, This is your level of awareness now.
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Awesome, Amy.
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Thank you so much. This was fantastic. Before you go,
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let the audience know how they can find out more
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about you and everything you offer.
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Thank you so much. You can find me on Instagram.
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I am at cosmic.oracle. I will never reach out to
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you in your DMs offering a reading.
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So those people are imposters.
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So, you know, they had them do it to me
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like twice in the last couple of months. Crazy.
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Yeah.
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It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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So cosmic.oracle on Instagram, I have a free Facebook group
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called soul space, which is a great place to come
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and just like share your awakening experiences and ask questions.
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It's so interactive. Everybody is so awesome there. Um, and
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then my website is amybelair.com. My podcast is third eye awakening.com.
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And if you like the idea of psychic development or
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