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Speaker 1: Hey, but it's after six. Good morning to you. Welcome to Tuesday on five double A Breakfast, the thirty first of March, so the last day of March. We'll it be our last day with a thirty degree max. Certainly, if we look ahead on the forecast on this Tuesday morning, there's nothing thirty wise ahead as we get deeper into wadum and begin to encroach on winter. So enjoy the day. It's going to be a magnificent one. In Adelaide, I'm going to have some fun this morning. We'll be chatting with the Institute of the a News Institute of Space Associate Director Kate Ferguson a little bit later this morning. We spoke yesterday about the artimist missions sending human beings. This first mission that's taking off for the next week will send men and woman in this case back to the Moon, not on the moon, but they're going further than anyone in the history of humankind has gone before. Well Australia is helping, and Australia's helping with the really interesting bit of technology that they didn't need fifty odd years ago. We'll talk about that after six thirty. Also on the program, we're going to be heading to the final whereabouts of Desi Freeman. Cassie Zervos broke the story for seven years during the morning yesterday, she's been embedded there. We'll talk to her about that. We're going to shine a spotlight on some really fun and free activities this morning, going to the State Library, going to the museum. We'll find out what's on what you can do there. Of course you don't have to pay, which is excellent at the moment. Phil Curry beyond the show and Alex Carey, David Penberthy looking forward to chatting with the hero of the Redbacks back to back Shield finals wins. It sounds surreal to say good morning to you.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, well, good morning listeners. What I've finished that was by the the bowlers to just go in there and clean them up. Just fantastic crickets, superb and same unt of cricket's mental, isn't it. You're just get to run on a side and suddenly it's like, oh, you know, the mood in the Victorian change rooms must have been one of great, great sort of anxiety because they all collectively just got the yips. Good batsman out.
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Speaker 1: There, terrific creator about You're right, that's one of the night It's like putting engulf too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, was Ian Baker Finch who famously got the yips so badly that he just yeah, basically ended his career.
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Speaker 1: But those the sports where you've got time to think. The brain plays such a bigger role. And you're right. You look at batsmen when they come out and they're one four hundred and ninety compared when they're four for forty. Yeah, and look and then you could have the same pinch. It looks like every delivery is a hand grenade. It's like in tennis, I've reready miss playing tennis. I've got to get back into it. Inspired by Henry Young, he took it up when he was sixty five. That means I've still got nine years on here if I resume playing tennis now. But often in tennis, when you've got like a ball coming at you that you're a payment has mishit and they've just tapped it off the top of their racket and it's gone straight up into the air and you've got like five seconds to plan in your lot.
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Speaker 3: So easy to stuff it up, yeah, because you just going okay, well I can put this one away. Sport's way easy when you don't have to think about it. Yeah, the moment thought comes into it issues. Yeah, it's a problem, but we're gonna have a bit of fun with the sounds this morning, just this morning the National Film and so what was that one? I don't know really, it was just you know, I think it was a random bird. It was from the Timi Eery show.
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Speaker 1: Was it was? It was casey? Okay. The National Film and Sound Archive of Australia have they do this every year and they have done since two thousand and seven, where they put things into the archive that are of cultural significance. In fact, their definition involves culture, political, life and environment. And what they've done is this year they've added nine things to the Australian National Film and Sound Archive of Australia. So nine bits of sound. They have to all be songs. Some of them are songs. For example, are the oldest sound that's going into the archive. Mark Heins Marchina Heines from nineteen seventy seven. The only criteria for this is that the sounds capture audio moments of creativity Australian identity in everyday life that resonate across generations. And they need to be more than ten years old. Notice none of that said music, which is why this has made it.
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Speaker 4: Gentlemen, there is debucrocy manifest.
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Speaker 3: Here's the charge eating on the old A succulent Chinese me. Oh yes, I see that.
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Speaker 1: You know your judo Jack Carlson with Chris Reason was there at the time who we're speaking with in Tel Aviv in nineteen ninety one. He was there when Jack Carlson was arrested and gave that famous Democracy manifest speech that's now in the National films Ow Dark, which is just incredible. This made it in.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, other it was Pong.
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Speaker 1: That's the pedestrian crossing signal which came into nineteen eighty four. It sounded like pong at the start. It did sound a bit like pong.
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Speaker 3: They do.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't there a band recently that used the Australian crossing signal? Billy Eilish used it, Thank you Patrick in a song, sampled it in a song, just that it was such a good, unique sound. The Australian pedestrian crossing a signal. This made it in man, This made it in two.
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Speaker 4: Ever too late to learn find this number.
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Speaker 3: G double oh six driple fame the reading writing hot.
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Speaker 4: Life O G double oh six driple.
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Speaker 1: Fame, the reading writing hotline. Jingle by Peter Sullivan and sung by Andrew Lay from two thousand and one made it in that I'd used to play in five double A oh, I think you've played everywhere. Clearly there's a great deal of recognition and some more modern music as well, modern inn a sort of sense of this from two thousand and two.
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Speaker 3: Here it's the close to her doesn't that make a ship?
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Speaker 1: Ways, Chrissy Higgins with Scar we're asking you this morning. Then what's the sound? So it could be a song, it could be a moment. I mean it just could be an environmental sound like the pedestrian crossing was. That needs to be put into the National Film and Sound Archive of Australia. Eight double two to three double O double is the number you can text us on zero befour eight zero eight thirteen ninety five.
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Speaker 3: That isn't it.
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Speaker 1: We can use the two an eclectic bunch of things. A few things are more eclectic than the bunch of things have just been added to the National film. It's the national sound of Darkive.
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Speaker 3: I would put the drums at the start of Leilani, the song by the Hoodoo Gurus on their debut album Stone Age Romeos in.
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Speaker 1: There, okay, because I just did such a great.
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Speaker 3: Moment in Australian music and it signaled the arrival of that band who, frankly I reckon they should have just stopped after their first record. It's just so good that record. But there's something that really puts Australia in the Asia Pacific in that song. It's just it's just I don't know what it is about that song, but I just love it. The start of Lailani would be my choice. Well, that fits the bill, says one Bond Scott's bagpipes. Ah.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: If they're not in there already, they should be.
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Speaker 1: We need to we need to check what's already in. It doesn't matter for the purpose of this exercise because we'll just take more nominations, but we might we might check against them. What's in the what's in the archive. So recordings with cultural, historical and esthetic significance and relevance which informal reflect life in Australia.
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Speaker 3: Have ad it.
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Speaker 1: Folks eight double two three double A double O are texts on zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five. Hold that thought. We'll come back to it on the other side of this break.
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Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 3: Forgot to mention Joe Dolci made it as well. Shut up your fakes.
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Speaker 1: This is in the National Film and Sound Archive. This year has just been entered in. We're asking you what else should be in sounds that reflect great Australian moments, Australian culture or the Australian environment.
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Speaker 3: Sam and Thebdon Let's start with you.
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Speaker 1: She were getting some terrific texts as well at the moment, Sam, good morning, Good morning guys.
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Speaker 6: What old put in there is the speech Bob Hawk made when we made the America's Cup when he called every employer a bum if the day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah so well remembered, isn't it, And such a great Australian moment.
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Speaker 1: We don't do a great trade in Australia. And like rattling off famous quotes from our leaders, except that one that's.
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Speaker 3: Right, which is a celebration of indolence. Let's go to Salisbury.
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Speaker 1: Laura, good morning, Good morning.
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Speaker 7: How are you today?
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Speaker 3: Good? Thanks, Sorry, excellent.
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Speaker 7: I'm got to say something that sticks out pretty big in my brain from the oldie days is the Adelaide ten Christmas Appeal and the phone number from that, which even in my tender use I still remember, which is two one seven one.
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, Christmas appeal.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great pick.
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Speaker 1: Well, those sorts of Christmas appeals probably.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The idea, remember, like if you talk about reflecting on the history of Australian media, and which is what this is all about, that the thing's going to be quaint for a future generation. The idea one sat around there was Christmas appeals on freeware television and you'd call in and you donate money and so forth. I'm not gonna have that in the streaming era. Laura, thank you. Let's go to Rostrevor Michael, good morning.
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Speaker 9: My suggestion is John daw and Brian daw the interviews et crist John Clark, I mean, any of the John Clark interviews is I think iconic for Australian sown brilliant.
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Speaker 1: Because they relied on the quality of the writing. They were ever doing impressions. No, it's just they could carry the joke with the quality of what was being written. And that's the degree of difficulty in that is just about impossible. Yeah, Jazzy in the Southeast.
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Speaker 10: Good morning, Good morning guys. Here you going, God, thanks Jerzy, I reckon, We've got to have.
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Speaker 4: It's a no brainer. The flute piece out of and Land down Under.
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Speaker 10: Where he plays Koko borosits in the old Country.
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Speaker 3: Well he said he didn't play Kooko Boris in the old gum tree, is what he did?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I mean that if anything's in there, that's what it has to be.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of the the title page of the National Film and Sound Archive, is it should they.
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Speaker 3: Should played at the entrance? That's excellent, Jazz you what a great suggestion.
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Speaker 1: Frankin Birkenhead. What do you think should be in the archive?
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Speaker 2: I don't know that.
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Speaker 12: What do you think?
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Speaker 3: I mean?
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Speaker 2: This said this was to do with politics. The famous speech that GoF Whitlam made against the queen.
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Speaker 3: Remember, well, may we say God save the Queen because I think we'll save the Governor General. Today will go down as Kerr's curve. That was the one.
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Speaker 2: What do you reckon?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a huge moment, isn't It has to be in there, whether you're a pro or Andy dismiss her. Well, it doesn't get any bigger than that greatest compositional crisis in the history of the country.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, I like this one. This came from a text a short time ago.
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Speaker 3: To the twenty two new Richie Benno, the great Ritchie Benno.
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Speaker 1: That's what crickets sounded like for a an entire generation.
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Speaker 3: Didn't it sound good too? Oh? Superb jeez. There's some great and varied suggestions. Jacobin Paraloui says, a crocodile bit my guts out, my head went that way, and the leagues went that way.
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Speaker 1: What happened to that kid?
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Speaker 3: Well, after he's bit with a crocodile, Mike and Nord says, do they have the sound of the old telephone dial? That's one of the most satisfying sounds. Yeah, it felt good on your fingers too, very tactile. It's almost like those fidgets that you have now to keep your kids calm, you know for the fidget spinner. Oh yeah, at a fidgity quality. The old the old telephone. Good one here from Andrew I reckon the National Tiles ad needs to be put in the National Sound Archive because everybody knows the sound of Frank Walker. If color the Reading Writing Hotline jingles in, Frank Walker needs to be in Yeah. From the World of Politics.
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Speaker 1: Frank Walker should voice all the exhibits, so you walk around each one and you're like, oh, is that the reading writing hotline? He goes hello and he tells you about it.
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Speaker 3: Brenton from the World of Politics says John Houston's gst birthday cake explanation should be in there. If that's in there, maul Maninger's radio interview needs to be Oh absolutely, you have a little politics area. Yeah, but being able to watch the installation the video of mal in the radio studio, that would be excellent.
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Speaker 1: Great moments in Australian politics. I think this was your suggestion, wasn't it, David. That's a really really really early version of it. This won't be like a demo.
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Speaker 3: Three or four.
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Speaker 1: Hoodoo gurus And this is the one that was obviously just mentioned as one of our five Double Breakfast entries into the National Film and Sound Archive. IM sorry, I resign, Do you reckon two in the year of his death, crept up on him like a librarian.
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Speaker 3: Dennis committee, Yes, something from Dennis needs to be in there. You could pick a few. We've had a Bruce suggestion, someone suggested where is it? Where is it? The Peter Peter and the Brossa said Bruce's call of Kathy Freeman winning the four hundred meters gold And our good mate Ben Jordan, who pointed out earlier that in the year of its birth nineteen seventy six, South Australia won the Sheffield Shield and this is nice symmetry fifty years on to happening again. We have to wait, well, we need to wait one more year, didn't we Yeah, that's right, but Ben Ben says the sound that he would nominate is Bruce and Dennis commentating together, and the moment would be Darren Jarmin's final goal in ninety seven, when Bruce says unbelievable Darren, while Dennis just goes WHOA.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you put the whole ninety seven Grand Final in Frequently, there's no need to be there's no need to be picky.
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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at the weather for today.
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Speaker 1: We'll keep taking your entries on and sounds that define Australia that need to be put into the National Film and Sound Archive in eight double two three double A, double A and the text line zero zero eight thirty ninety five. Right now, it's quite nice outside twenty point one degrees outside in the city, which makes us the warmest capital city in the country outside of Darwin. Heading for a top today of thirty. It's going to be a reasonably pleasant sort of a day. Tomorrow we get a change, so morning showers and then it'll get a bit warmer during the afternoon, but we might get reasonable amount of rain zero to three millimeters on the forecast. Thursday are twenty three, mostly sunny, so a bit cooler, Friday twenty three for good Friday, Saturday twenty four and sunny Sunday twenty five, and sunny and easter Monday twenty six with maybe a drizzle of rain about the place. Zero to one millimeters of rain. Now, I think that's the kind of almost perfect easter weekend forecast. You can just about do anything you like. What about mate, Andrew Killy the ad man.
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Speaker 3: He she just chexting me go. Here's the end for the National Archives. Is the final siren of the nineteen to seventy eight s ANFL Grand Final. Well, there you go, Twitch, I've replied. Know the sound should be Dez Foster's whistle, heralding the infamy that.
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Speaker 1: Follows never going to resolve this week, ready's in the studio. It's a natural segue to sports. Has been a few great sporting sounds that have been nominated already This morning, good morning? Do you tell you good morning?
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Speaker 3: Will morning? David? Yes?
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Speaker 13: And another one yesterday and that's because the sheffiud Chill title wrapped up.
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Speaker 14: I said it was probably fifty to fifty. Well, let's have a listen to how the Sack has got it done against.
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Speaker 13: Victoria South Australia, back to back Sheffield Shield champions.
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Speaker 3: Last year they broke the drown at home.
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Speaker 1: There they come and do it again in.
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Speaker 15: Enemy territory in one of the most remarkable Shield wins in years.
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Speaker 14: Ah yeah there thanks to Fox Sports Adam White, the call of their great call.
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Speaker 3: Really good. Yeah.
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Speaker 13: So fifty six run win, first time ever back to back for South Australia. The comp's been going since eighteen ninety, so it's one hundred and thirty eight years, fourteenth title. I reckon it is for essay. How good is a you know quite well a little bit yeah, and he's a massive double A fan, so yeah, exactly. But he's playing the best cricket of his life. I think right now he's but.
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Speaker 3: He's got he's got us us out of trouble, he's got Australia out of trouble. Like he's such an important, huge.
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Speaker 13: I think he's probably the best batter to watch technically, like he's got a very quiet technique, he's got beautiful hands as a gloveman, he's got a fantastic temperament. And you're right, he's making big runs like important runs, and he just looks so elegant.
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Speaker 14: At the crease.
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Speaker 3: His summer was so good, amazing watching him stand up at the stumps against pace.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it was so impress And then you know, a shield one hundred this year but also season the drought breaking Shield final win that we had, he made a hundred there not made of the match. I think Nathan McAndrew deserved that six wickets and he made the sixty which was the big partnership with carry, but Alex Cary would have got the two votes if.
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Speaker 14: You're doing a three to one.
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Speaker 13: And I think Liam Scott, who I mentioned to Sammy and Ned a little bit earlier, I think he's the most improved cricketer and I think right now a better all rounder option than Cam Green.
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Speaker 14: I think he's ahead of him. He's playing such You.
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Speaker 1: Wonder when any of these books might get rewarded for the dominance at Shield level with the test A periods.
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Speaker 3: Do we talk about Ryan Harris enough ready?
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Speaker 14: Probably not?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could if you're five years ago, he said. The backs went back to about I'd say will win in twenty Is there a nuclear ward? What's happened to the world? How is this even physically possible? Yeah, it's Unfathoma award. He's done the squad.
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Speaker 14: It's unbelievable. Isn't that One day title last season as well?
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Speaker 3: Of course?
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Speaker 13: And the shield's the big one, and he's gone back to back and it's off the back of the bowling and you know, keeping a really sort of simple mantra. But they've had their set this season. They had a lot of injuries early and they were able to withstand that and then do what they've done. Incredible, So I just hope they've done it now. And it's amazing, isn't it. Once you win one, how the shackles are then off and you can win another one. But hopefully the thirty six is can follow suit tomorrow night, and hasn't Everything's sort of blown up there in the last.
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Speaker 3: To be ugly.
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Speaker 1: It's a shame because the talking point should be what's happening on the court. Yeah, because there's a great rivalry going on between two of the best players we've had in the MBL At the moment, it's just absolutely you can't take your eyes off it. We deserve a game five, I reckon.
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Speaker 14: I think so too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you get the game five and anything can happen. Are deciding one off game that Sixers just need to take care of it at home. And I know the Kings have looked unbeatable over there, but it's elimination games. Funny things happen big time the snow tomorrow exactly, So tomorrow night Game four, that Place Entertainment Center will be absolutely rocking.
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Speaker 14: Get down there, folks, if you haven't got a ticket, already good.
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Speaker 1: On your reading.
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Speaker 3: Thanks boys, Thanks.
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Speaker 6: Love the passion that comes out of five double A covering everything here you know, support wives in South Australia.
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Speaker 5: Five double A Breakfast David ben Berby and Will Goodings.
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Speaker 1: There is the Great Alex Carey recorded a birthday message for five double as fifty years and fifty years from the nineteen seventy six Shield title. He is delivered two for his home state in the last two years. He'll be on the program before at nine o'clock today. Let's take a call. Burry Oldinger is on the line. Morning to you.
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Speaker 2: Barry one guy a checking petrol spy last night or two dollars thirty nine got because I'll work at shido So you're thirty eight at the mobile on Commercial Road at Shidow Park. A bonus.
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Speaker 3: So it had already come down since the announcement by the FEDS about the excise being had it Barry.
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Speaker 2: Must have, mate, Yeah, it must have.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because that was I heard Jim Chalmers yesterday. We're going to be getting into the story lad and we'll we'll have the premiere on after eight o'clock. But they were saying about twenty cents a leader so that's that's a bit of money back in you in your skyrocket.
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Speaker 2: Oh my, okay's bloody good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah mate.
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Speaker 2: You might know me from drake Up Yours pinbo Ah.
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Speaker 3: You came up and gave me the up yours when I was queuing up there at Drake's only a few months ago.
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Speaker 1: I think we can take that as an entry for the National Film and Sounder Art. I think the Up Yours Pembo at the at the AEU rally should make it. The petrol price hasn't come down generally speaking, so I think Barry just got a terrific price where he went around the city. Right now in a suburbs, two fifty nine point nine is what you're paying. Intriguingly, sky News this morning quoted some data from fuel prices Australia and had the average price in each state, so it was statewide and include regional areas as well. South Australia had the most expensive unleaded petrol in the country. Now Deezer wasn't the most expensive, but our average unleaded was over two dollars sixty was the only place that it was over two sixty on average.
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Speaker 3: So we'll ask the premier that later. Is that great question true? And why are we the most experienced? Yeah, that's weird. Well, and it's weird that we wouldn't then be for diesel. Can I just say, surely if the government has announced yesterday, does it take effect immediately the removal of excise or the reduction in excise, because if it does, there's no excuse for everybody not knowing their price.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it is necessarily straight away. We'll have to pass parliament.
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Speaker 3: Not sure. We'll check the film.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll later on talk about a little bit later, but I don't see there's no evidence that it's happened, at least about the patrol of the retail patrol price this morning, well any day now. The Artemis Mission, one of the Artemis missions planning to return human beings to the Moon, will take off, this one going to the Moon or be people, not setting foot on it, but in the process traveling further than anyone in human history has before the furthest from Earth anyone has ever traveled before. Interestingly, there's an Australian element to this mission, providing some support on the ground in a way that is very much of its time. Radio waves David. I don't know if we're going to be doing ourselves out of a job talking about this, but they're a little bit old fashioned, certainly when you need to upload big packets of data to space. Now, they might be old fashioned, but people still like them. Correct, that's nothing wrong with that, mind you.
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Speaker 3: Cut.
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Speaker 1: We don't yet have lasers that distribute our program to people's homes, but NASA does and it's all thanks to Australian technology. Lasers beaming larger packets information to people that are on the mission, laser beams, laser beams. I don't know how it works, but our ex guest certainly does. Dr Kate Ferguson from the A and News Institute for Space. Doctor Ferguson, good morning to you.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, So doctor Ferguson, tell us about the mission. What's actually going to happen, What are they going to be doing and when Will just said they're going to go further than anyone's ever gone. How far are they going to? Where are they going?
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Speaker 16: So they're going about four hundred thousand kilometers away, so trying to go just a little bit further than where humans went during the Apollo era and doing this fly by of the Moon, so it'll be a ten day mission where there's astronauts fly around the Moon. There's a few main goals for this mission. So this is the first is the first time that humans have gone to the Moon in over fifty years, and they're really testing out the spacecraft system on this Orian vehicle, so this will be the first crude flight of the vehicle. And there's a lot of I guess scientific goals for the mission as well. So they have fifteen cameras on the outside, we'll be looking at the Moon, being able to identify future landing sites and other sites of scientific interest. That all really paved the way for the rest of the Artist program.
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Speaker 1: Tell us what the Quantum Optical ground station in camera's role will be. It's a terrific title.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, So there's all of these intruments are going to generate a lot of data, and as you said, getting a large volume of data back to Earth is quite challenging, especially if you get further away from Earth, communication becomes more difficult. So what NASA has done is they've put a laser communication terminal on board the oryan spacecraft, so using lasers to communicate instead of radio waves and this is really sort of a game change is for communication technology that allows data rates tens to one hundred times faster than what you can do with radio communications. And what the technology aims to do is sort of takes the grainy photos from the nineteen sixties and change that to high definition video coming.
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Speaker 3: From places like the moon, so touching up the old footage.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, So im us role is as the we're a test ground station, so we have our quantum optical ground stations here in Canberra at the Mounts from Observatory and this is effectively a large telescope with a lot of common sex instruments on the back end that will be transmitting and receiving laser signals from the Obryan capsule.
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Speaker 3: Is that almost like in the movie The Dish.
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Speaker 16: Similar except instead of a big radio antenna, we have a smaller telescope because you don't need it to be quite as large to communicate over the distance.
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Speaker 3: Communic is the expectation, doctor Ferguson.
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Speaker 1: Then we're going to start seeing some of this spectacular imagery after this mission or will the public release of these sorts of things wait until the final Artemis mission that sees people actually land on the Moon.
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Speaker 16: Do you think hopefully there will be some exciting footage that'll be publicly released coming out of this mission?
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Speaker 3: Wow?
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Speaker 16: And it could be received here in Australia.
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Speaker 3: Just finally, doctor Ferguson, does the rocket use petrol? And if so, how much does it cost to fill it out?
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Speaker 16: It doesn't use petrol, but if it did, it would be very expensive to fill up. At the moment.
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Speaker 3: Hey, this is a great thing and that was a great interview. Good on your doctor Ferguson. Cape Ferguson from the the director Rata Assaysic director of the a and New Institute for Space.
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Speaker 1: So those really spectacular shots of Neil Armstrong and those those the Earth and the background, you know, the first imagery of Earth from a foreign body. That's going to get an update. We're going to see it in high dev that's been very unbelievable. Potentially the next ten days. What sort of experiment would you do on the Moon? Do you think, Uh, what are the idea they're going to try to find new landing site? Well, I mean this is all, this is all laying the groundwork to build permanent human structures on the Moon.
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Speaker 3: Does my head in because of the housing crisis. We were thinking about Roseworthy. Yeah, and we had a bit of a look down at sea for May days. But in the end we decided that the Sea of Tranquility was offering just I mean, the commute a bit more expensive, but the block size is just beyond anything you can get on Earth.
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Speaker 1: Well, if somebody want to see change, someone's want a tree change. You just want to have a moon change, see trend of tranquility change. Let's say to the weather Bureau and talk about the weather here on Earth. Simon Timkey is on the line, Simon, do you reckon? We gona get many more thirty degree days like we've got forecasts.
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Speaker 12: Today morning morning, David, Well, start to get a bit harder once we get through eightpril to get quite such high temperatures. So if you like the warmer days, so you want to make the most of today. I think plenty of sunshine around too.
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Speaker 15: Looking at the.
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Speaker 12: Satellite picture, there's a little bit of patchy high cloud just to the west and the south, but clear over the Adelaide area right now. So plenty of sunshine today. The winds from the north and probably a little bit windier than yesterday, and temperature wise, as you said, expecting thirty degrees. We had an oven minimum of eighteen point three at about quarter past three this morning, currently in the city sitting on twenty point two. With that slightly warmer weather and lightly windier conditions as well, it has been enough to push the fire danger into extreme over the Mount Lofty Ranges. So there is a fire weather warning out for today and the CFS have issued a total fireband for the Mount Lofty Rangers District. Temperatures around the suburbs expecting thirty one for Elizabeth today, twenty eight for Glenelgren, no longer thirty degrees for Mount Barker today. There is a cold front moving across the west of the state today and that'll move across the Adelaide area during the early hours of Wednesday morning, so we're likely to see some showers about during the early morning. I think by early afternoon they will have cleared away to the east and we'll see a mostly sunnay afternoon for Wednesday. We'll see a bit of a drop in temperature with that front moving across, down to seventeen overnight in a maximum for Wednesday twenty four degrees, then staying in the mid twenties through the later part of the week and into the weekend. For Thursday are mostly Sunday Day twenty three Friday, slight charts of a shower about the hills and the southern suburbs as another cold front just sort of clips how far southern coasts, but over the Adelaide plans should be dry. I think on Friday twenty three, the maximum for Friday, Saturday, Sunday and twenty four Sunday Sunday at first and twenty five, I think we might see a bit of cloud developed later in the afternoon, maybe the slight chance of a shower late afternoon and evening, and the slight chance of a shower again about the place on Monday and twenty six degrees, but certainly warmer stay up the next week.
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Speaker 3: Today, guys, good stuff, Simon, thanks for that nice mild easter weekend coming up, Simon, Timkey from the weather Bureau.
00:30:35
Speaker 1: I said to say, Poulsen, he comes to Daniel. Lazaxson's on the line. Daniel, there's been a car roll over at Malvin.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's right. Emergency services were called only Road Melvin just after eight thirty last night after reports of a crash where a car had ended up on its roof after striking a parked car. The driver, a twenty six year old hall Atkoe woman, sustained money injuries and was taken to hospital by ambulance. Both vehicles were towed from the scene and she's going to be receiving an expiation in the mail.
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Speaker 1: Bit of explaining to do there.
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Speaker 3: Daniel also a suspicious fire at door Park overnight.
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Speaker 17: Yeah.
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Speaker 15: Just after midnight this morning, police in MFS crews were called to a fire in a carpoor on Rockville Avenue. The blaze was extinguished by fire crews. However, damage had been caused to items stored in the area. Police suspect the fire was deliberately lit and ask if anyone's seen anything suspicious around the area around that time, give us call on crime stoff as one one hundred triple three trippul Zeria or report online.
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Speaker 3: And just lastly, Daniel, a man's been arrested at lobethal Yeah about.
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Speaker 15: One am today. Police eventually services responded to reports of an assault. Police were quickly on scene, locating the victim, a thirty one year old woman from the address. The victim was treated at the scene by SA Ambulance for non life threatening injuries. And a thirty eight year old man was arrested with our incident and will face numerous charges including assault. His bail has been refused and he's expected to appear in court later on today. We just wish to advise the public that both the suspect and victim are known to each other, so you know it's not a random incident.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good work, Daniel, Senior Constable Daniel Isaacson from Sapole, Thanks for that. Thanks to Ben Jordan too, our resident stats. Me and Ben. We're chatting on air, Will and I trying to work out exactly when the fuel excise reduction would kick in. Ben said it officially passed Parliament yesterday and starts dropping from tomorrow. So as our producer Patrick calling it.
00:32:33
Speaker 1: April Fuel's Day, Yes, he's pretty happy with that one too.
00:32:38
Speaker 3: So we get the savings tomorrow, When do we get the when do we get the interest rate increase?
00:32:44
Speaker 1: Yes, the gold saying the government giveth and the RBA taketh away.
00:32:50
Speaker 3: That's right. It feels a lot.
00:32:51
Speaker 1: We're on the track for that from the Bible, isn't it. I think this is terrible policy. Frankly, we might talk about it a little bit later. The way it's currently constructed, the cut to the excise, for what it's going to cost and what it's going to achieve, and the absence of any balancing saving.
00:33:07
Speaker 3: Measure, it's it's it's more money out of the budget. Does it make it more likely that there's going to be some sort of new tax or tax increase or change to property affluent property owners or something in the budget to cover things like this.
00:33:26
Speaker 1: Well, I think I can think of one really obvious thing. In fact, we might talk about it after we did very quickly after the break since we've gone there, we'll just check. We'll check traffic first though, and come back with more in a moment.
00:33:37
Speaker 5: Deep Van Burby and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
00:33:42
Speaker 1: Five minutes, so we're going to talk art and just in a moment. We started a conversation before the breakdown about the fuel excise. So it comes in tomorrow. Twenty six point three cents a leter will come off the retail price of petrol at a cost of two point five to five billion dollars to the budget. They're also getting rid of the heavy vehicle ro user charge, So I to think is the stronger element of the policy, because that's the one that applies specifically to trucks, not just absolutely everyone with a car. Then there'll be an increase that will be foregone in the budget. That's another five point three million dollars that will be lost to revenue. There will be at that one I think makes more sense. Here's my issue very quickly with it. One is the potential for it to be inflationary. Like all the COVID measures we had that were all well intentioned, the bill came. You always have to pay the piper and inflation setting for something of an increase of well, it'll be up over five percent. It diminishes a price signal at a time where we actually literally have as part of this four step plan, A planned to not run out of petrol. Well, the increased price was making everyone moderate how they much petrol they were using. If you artificially diminish that, people will not change their behaviors. So beauty response. So you beauty response, And it costs the budget billions of dollars without an offset, And I reckon there's a really easy and obvious offset to this. The fringe benefits tax on electric vehicles. I've got no problem with electric vehicles. I've been looking at myself because in this current environment they suddenly make a lot of sense. But that's the point. You don't need to artificially incentivize the take up of electric vehicles when you've got unleaded nearly three dollars a liter. So we could offset these cost of living things by getting rid of the incentive to go ev because the market now has a price that incentive to go ev. Do you know what the cost of that policy is? The Parliamentary budget offers estimates that scrapping the fringe benefits tax for electric vehicles would improve the budget by twenty three billion dollars over the next decade. Wow, that is the editor will pay for this. That would pay for this this year. Yeah, in its first instance, I think that makes sense. Absolutely love this next story, So we mentioned all Dinger again. Down at Aldinger there's an artist by the name of Karla Grace who's a.
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Speaker 3: Self taught artist. She's picked up the brushes herself and shown quite an aptitude for it, where she's done this amazing painting of a pride of six lines. There's a great piece by Paul Ashen in the Ties about it yesterday. Now this this amazing painting. Check it out online, folks. It's absolutely superb. It's going to be exhibited at Southby's in New York in July and then auctioned off with the money raised for a foundation to save Africa's declining line population. We have Karla on the line now, Carla, thank you for joining us. We've got a picture. We've got your painting up on our live stream now so that our listeners can look at it if they're watching along on YouTube. It's such a beautiful painting.
00:36:38
Speaker 10: Oh thank you.
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Speaker 3: So what's your link to South Africa or to Africa?
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Speaker 10: Oh well, I was actually born in South Africa and spent a lot of my childhood in Southern Africa, where basically wildlife was part of my everyday life. So yeah, very much part of everything that I had growing up.
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Speaker 3: Position of the painting is extraordinary describing it for people who are who haven't seen it, it almost looks like you're standing over the lines. How did the images sort of come to be?
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Speaker 10: Well, I actually went to South Africa with to meet Kevin Richardson and those lions in particular, and I spent a week with them, walking around with them with a drone and taking photos of them, and by the end of it, I had a host of photographs that I ended up stitching together to create this aerial perspective of these lines, because I mean, how many times can you paint a lion and say, oh, this one is unique? So I was keen to paint something that had never really been done before when it comes to lions, and there we have a composition of three that are really looking at you, and the other three are kind of engaged in their normal behavior according to their personality, and it just captures that group of lions in a very unique way.
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Speaker 3: It's quite a mesmerizing image. You look at it and you feel like the lines it's almost like the main Lisa's eyes, so they're looking.
00:38:09
Speaker 1: How long does it take to paint something like that color?
00:38:12
Speaker 10: Well, that one took me about three months of the actual painting itself.
00:38:17
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: Wow, it just it looks like a photograph. I've got to say, it's just one of the most spectacular things I've seen. Unbelievable much.
00:38:25
Speaker 3: How do you go from South Africa to aldinga beach? What a great journey.
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Speaker 10: Yes, I have moved quite a few times. It is an incredible story and I think we need quite a lot of time to cover it. Basically, I ended up living in Perth and I met my husband and he was in the Army at the time. We bounced around Australia, but he is originally from Udinga and we ended up moving back here. He got out the army and now we are living in our home and I've got my studio here and he now works with me. So full circle and it's a nice little family business.
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Speaker 3: I might bump in at the surf Club over the weekend. We're going to place down there and I'm going to retire there. So it's my favorite part of Adelaide. Carla, great having you on the show and good luck with the auction. What a beautiful piece of work that is.
00:39:14
Speaker 1: Calor is the top seven before seven seven before seven South Australians at their best in Victoria number seven the Premier Peter Maylelanowskas with Katie Perry at the twenty twenty four AFL Grand Final in sixth spot. Cory Enwright in the two thousand and seven Grand Final. Of course, for the Cats, the two twenty nine touches, the nineteen ninety six Australian Grand Prix and the fourth spot Paul Kelly live at the Continental on the Esplanade in ninety six number three Makaibe Devera three Melbourne Cup wins number two, The Sackers win the twenty twenty five twenty twenty six Sheffield Chield and in the number one spot Andrew Jarman in the nineteen ninety seven Grand Final. We Love Your Father.
00:39:59
Speaker 5: Team been Keen Burd and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
00:40:07
Speaker 1: Night after see every good morning to you. Welcome to Tuesday. The thirty first of March is still dark outside. That's all going to change, of course, come this weekend. Our technicians are currently working on the app. We've had some reports on the text line about the app not working particularly well, so our text are working at the moment. Also working on my brain, I said Andrew Jarman before the break when talking about my favorite crow of all time, Darren Jarman, I love Burgundy moment. Let's not top anyone else in I'm going to wear it. I'm the one who read it out.
00:40:39
Speaker 3: It's very rare that you make a football era that even I pick up on because my football knowledge is one percent of what yours did.
00:40:46
Speaker 1: It's about my favorite footballer ever as well, there you go.
00:40:49
Speaker 3: I need e Jarmin de Jarmin are your favorite of all time? Absolutely really yeah, without a doubt, I need more coffee. That's this year, Phil sixteen.
00:40:58
Speaker 1: Now coming up this hour on the program when it's libraries, We're doing a series of interviews in the leadup to Eastern things that won't break the bank, that you can get along and enjoy in the community for free or for almost no cost. So I'm going to talk with the State Library soci director very shortly. We've had having a lot of fun in the first hour with additions to the National Film and Sound Archive, the curator Simon Smith is slated to come on and Phil Curry fuel excise big talking point on the text line this morning. The Cup will come in to play tomorrow on the show and Phil Curry will explain all the ins and outs politically for us after seven thirty.
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Speaker 3: Well, it was only five minutes before the end of our program yesterday when news came out of Victoria an unconfirmed, unnamed man had been shot dead in rural Victoria. Well, immediately everybody's thoughts were could it be Desi Freeman, And within minutes it was confirmed by the Victorian police that it indeed was. Cassie Zervos is the seven News chief crime reporter and she's in Followed Along, which is near Aubrey where freedman cow that he was murderer of two police tried yet again to kill another one believed to be using the very pistol that he stole off one of the slain offices seven months ago, after which he lived in the bush in Victoria. Cassie, such a remarkable story and you know the end that this guy deserved and almost seemed to be dreaming of. Yeah.
00:42:29
Speaker 18: Absolutely, good morning, and it was a huge twenty four hours.
00:42:32
Speaker 10: I can imagine this man has been.
00:42:35
Speaker 18: Hiding for the past seven months, two hundred and sixteen days on the run, and as you say, it ended the way it started in a bloody shootout. We understand that plays there this morning investigating whether he fired shots at police first or threatened them with the firearm to lure him out of that makeshift container ship. Camp sied that we saw a vision of yesterday. They actually had to use a tear gas capsicum spray because he wasn't cooperating. It ended up being a three hour tent standoff between Freeman and the heavily armed officers on the ground there. But eventually he did emerge. He was wrapped in a blanket and he was holding a police firearm that belonged to Neil Thompson and he was one of the police officers who was fatally shot in August last year, and that gun was still loaded and no doubt Desi Freeman was still very much prepared to use it. So of course our force was going to take no chances, and that's when they decided to fire that fatal round of bullets, killing Freeman dead.
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Speaker 3: We're just playing some of the aerial footage of the property where he was found by the police. Cassie. There's still a lot of un answered questions about this, aren't they. Like One thing that really strikes me is when you look at that completely ramshekel camp site. Outside of his shipping container, there's like a shade cloth, there's some sort of rudimentary sort of ol fresco area. Why are there two chairs there? Bo'sy's friend.
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Speaker 18: Well, that's exactly right, isn't it. And it doesn't look like a setup that's just been put there in the past couple of days, does it. It looks like he's been there, he settled in for some time. And as you say, there's two camshares, who is he sitting outside with? Quite brazen in fact, I mean the property is huge. It's a huge property. If you're driving past, you wouldn't be able to see anyone from the road. But with that said, he was obviously sitting outside during the days or at some point there was cooking utensils. There was pods and pans, a veranda type, you know, to protect himself from the sun. It was just a bizarre setup in itself. But the owner of the property, he actually has been living in Tasmania for the past few months and we spoke to a relative of his and he's come out and of course it said, look, we've got no connection to this man whatsoever. We are as shocked as the rest of the nation is that he was found here and have denied any allegations that there is a connection at all or that the owner had been helping Desi Freeman. When we put that question to our Chief Commissioner Mike Bush yesterday, he said, look, we haven't had a chance to speak to the owner of the property yet, But that's not unusual. There's nothing to read into. It's just because we've had so many moving parts on the ground here yesterday, which is completely understandable given what unfolded in such a volatile situation. And you know, we put the question to Mike Bush, did Desi Freeman fire at police officers? And he said, look, we need to speak to our members. It all happened very very quickly. Once the tear gust was thrown in and he emerged, everything went down within seconds. So the main thing is no police officers were injured or killed yesterday. Given what happened in August last year, we know that Desi Freeman would absolutely open fire.
00:45:56
Speaker 3: He wouldn't care, He wouldn't.
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Speaker 14: Care, so.
00:46:01
Speaker 1: He certainly afore went the benefit of the doubt on that kind of front. Cassie, in your extraordinary story on seven last night, with those pictures, you mentioned the dispersal.
00:46:10
Speaker 3: Of tear gas.
00:46:11
Speaker 1: What role did that police vehicle play that looked like it bored a hole in the side of his shipping container on a long telescopic sort of arm piece of equipment. I must say I've never seen before it's.
00:46:25
Speaker 18: Called a claw and they just on the bear cat. So the bear Cats are operated by the Special Operations Group, which is our most elite squad in Syria, and it's to pierce through any possible material like steel to get in and it's a safe way for officers to lure a suspect out or essentially smoke bomb someone out. So what they've done is they've been able to pierce through that container ship, throw in the tear gas, the capsic and spray and I'm not sure perhaps to come spray in your eyes or down your throat, but it's incredibly hard to see and breathe. So that's that's forced him to come out for fresh air, wrapped the dona and from there his senses have been thrown off, so he hasn't been able to see properly, he can't breathe properly, and the police have been able to have the upper hand in that situation. But once he dropped the Doner, he did show that he was holding that fire up fist.
00:47:13
Speaker 10: Officers saw that.
00:47:14
Speaker 18: It's not like he came up and came out and surrendered with his hands up and said I'm not holding a weapon and I'm going to cooperate with you. It was the complete opposite. So that's when officers opened fire and shot shot the fugitive dead.
00:47:27
Speaker 3: Amazing report. Cassie Cassi Zervos in solog along for seven years. Is there some weird underground network of people that helped him? Well?
00:47:37
Speaker 1: There, I mean there has to be, doesn't there. Yeah, you would think so. It just happened upon a shipping container in the middle of nowhere.
00:47:45
Speaker 3: No, yeah, exactly. And the fact that the guy who owns the property isn't There were other people there, and you can't unless he's squatting. How do you just turn up at someone's property and live there. We don't know how long he was living there for, but as Cassie said, he looked pretty established, like you looked like he'd settled in on that property.
00:48:03
Speaker 1: I mean, you always hesitate to presume the severity of sentences in Australia, but I would imagine aiding and abetting someone who's killed police would carry a pretty hefty jail center and Rile yeah should do.
00:48:14
Speaker 12: So.
00:48:14
Speaker 1: There's probably a lot more to come on that story. A little more to come on a story we got into just after six o'clock this morning. Had a lot of fun in the first hour with our listeners coming up with culturally significant sounds from Australia's history, be they from the world of politics, from music, obviously, entertainment, even advertising. We do so because overnight the National Film and Sound Archive added nine new sounds to the archive celebrating Australia's history. The criteria being they have to have been of cultural significance or tell a story about Australia in the environment, and they have to be ten years old or more. Simon Smith from the National Film and Sound Archive is on the line.
00:48:54
Speaker 19: Morning to you, Simon, Morning David and Will how are you going?
00:48:57
Speaker 3: We're good, Thank you Simon. Now do you guys us take requests because we've had we've had so many suggestions from our listeners since we started talking about this just after six o'clock.
00:49:08
Speaker 20: Well, look, we do.
00:49:09
Speaker 19: We love to hear from the public about nominations. Unfortunately, nominations aren't open for next year's one, but well we'll let you know when they are. But the great thing about Sounds of Australia, guys, is that it is a collection of sounds that are nominated by industry experts, but also by the public. So if you've got a great suggestion, then please do let us know and it'll be in the mixed for possible inclusion in the future.
00:49:34
Speaker 3: We've had we've had a lot of suggestions from the world of sport moments in commentary Richie Beno, but we said that there might be people suggesting things that are already there. Do you have any Richie Beno commentary in the in the National Film and Sound.
00:49:48
Speaker 19: Archives, Well, we definitely do have it in the archive that it hasn't necessarily been added to the Sounds of Australia as part of our registry of the most important signific recordings. Not that it isn't because of course Richie is an icon, and we do have other sporting commentary in the Sounds of Australia. I know we've got Norman May's Gold Gold Gold for Australia and Ron Casey's boxing commentary with Lionel Rose.
00:50:17
Speaker 3: Might have video of Donald Bradman hitting a golf ball against a rainwater tank, mightn't.
00:50:23
Speaker 19: You, Absolutely, yes, yeah, we've got all of that in the collection. I mean, the collection is quite ridiculous. It spans you know, more than one hundred and thirty years and it includes everything you've mentioned there, So yes, we do have those things in the collection, and yeah you can if in fact we've got I should mention we've got a new website, so if you get a chance, if people are interested to go to our website, there's over five five hundred media items that you can peruse there. And someone told me that it's like eighteen years worth of viewing, which I think is probably a bit better for this show.
00:50:56
Speaker 1: So, I mean, not wanting to sound like a biased member of an audio majority industry, but how can there be a temptation in this modern era to think, well, national film and Sound archive. The film component of that is, you know, given what can be communicated through a visual medium, the dominant component of it. Albeit this, this, this experiment in catalog and curating a list of sounds would suggest sort of runs counter to the modern technology. What do you think sounds specifically are important to catalog?
00:51:31
Speaker 19: I think it sounds sounds absolutely important to our collection and to our our you know, our cultural longing. Really, I mean it's it sounds really resonate with people, whether it's music or speeches or jingles, they you know, you've got your earworms and things like that which take you back to a particular time in your life. And I think that you know, nostalgia isn't just based upon looking at things, it's also listening to things. And I'm sure you would both have situations with music you've heard something that instantly takes you back to a certain time. So audio is extremely important. And yeah, as you've said, you know we are the Film and Sound Archive, and I should add we also have enormous amounts of television and radio as well, although that's not sort of self evident from our title, but yes, we do have enormous collections of audio at the National Film and Sound Archives.
00:52:21
Speaker 3: Given camera, aren't you around on near the lake by the Canberra Zoo? Is that right? Simon?
00:52:28
Speaker 19: Look, I must admit I work out of our Melbourne office, so I'm calling from Melbourne. But yes, we do have our headquarters in Canberra. And it's a lovely old building. It was the former Institute of Anatomy building, which at one point housed far Lapse Heart and of course these days is the has been the headquarters of the NFSA since nineteen eighty four, so yeah, it's a really lovely, lovely building there and if people are up there, they should definitely go and visit.
00:52:54
Speaker 3: Good stuff. Simon Smith, that was an really interesting chat the curator of the National Film and Sound. I can't believe you've never been the camera Will the other never been to Cambra. Camera is well worth a visit. I'd love to go. There'd be so I love you would love the war memorial absolutely.
00:53:12
Speaker 1: Without it's on my list something I've yeah, it's just superb. I desperately want to do it. The National Library. I had a total nerdling a moment. I still get teased about the home. I started crying at the National Library reading the letter that that John Wills wrote to his father as in Burke and Wills Fame, when he knew he was going to die when he was in I've got the original letter.
00:53:34
Speaker 3: Wow, and there's there's words in it something about I know the end is I'm doing it for memory. But there's this great one where says I'm I'm honored to have seen so much of this extraordinary continent. So he's at peace with his death writing to his dad. It's incredible.
00:53:51
Speaker 1: I know how their story ended, but how did the letter get found. Was there research party or was there other exploration?
00:53:56
Speaker 15: Was it?
00:53:57
Speaker 12: Well?
00:53:57
Speaker 3: Didn't they put the message in the dig tree and then keep going? And then when the search party turned up to find them, the fire was still warm, but they couldn't find them. And then they wandered off and ended up starving death not long after that, eating that what's it called nado? That vegetable that grows in marshy water, that's got no nutritional value. But I think it was left. It was left at the dictory possession. That's extraordinary. Now that got the ladder.
00:54:27
Speaker 1: I didn't need any more convincing, but somehow you provided it.
00:54:32
Speaker 3: Are we going to stand here all morning watching Dad choke up looking at a piece of paper?
00:54:40
Speaker 1: Clark Griswold, you're a paper man and it's the original piece of paper.
00:54:47
Speaker 5: Five double a breakfast deep in Pemberthy and Will Goodings.
00:54:55
Speaker 1: Well, before David was bursting into tears in the National Library, he was still state libraries here in South Australia. As we yesterday got into a conversation at a time when things are tight. Frankly, we've spoken about the inflation challenges. We'll talk more about the fuel eg size cut that comes into effect tomorrow, but all necessitated because of the cost of everything. At the moment, there are fun things you can do and spend nothing or very little. You had the experience of going to the library the other day with the family.
00:55:28
Speaker 3: West Tyron's Library popped in there some stuff that had to print out, and when I was in there, we should year, since I've stepped foot in the library, why why is that? The kids had a great time. I reactivated macard because I hadn't gone in for three years. We borrowed some books, but it was just a really nice, serene environment. And we're thinking at the moment people are trying to work out sound can I even afford to drive up to the hills for the weekend? Yeah, you know, given how tight we're all doing it financially. Just worth shining a light on some of the free activities that we've got our disposal. Handley Erasmus is the Associate director of the State Library of South Australia. Hanley, and we've all forgotten about the libraries, haven't we? All those of us who have need to be reminded about them because they're absolutely sensational.
00:56:15
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely absolutely. I think talking about libraries is pretty much one of South Australia's bestry experiences, to be honest, because libraries are very known to be welcoming, safe and open spaces to everyone. So in libraries you can walking stay as long as you like and genuinely not spend to send. Yeah, and you know why, I think our communities already know that because we see about ten million visitors over one hundreds and thirty locations visiting our libraries across the state. And if you think about it's really more than the total annual say attendance at Australians Rules for matches and Adelaida Minatazoos together. So I think our communities know very well the value they get from our libraries, to be honest.
00:57:19
Speaker 3: Well, I mentioned it was West Horren's Council Library that I went to. It was probably at two thirty last Saturday afternoon when I walked in but into one of our listeners, Stacey from Richmond. She was there with a couple of women who she knew from the neighborhood and they were knitting together in the foyer and I just thought, what a nice community vibe this place has got. It's like a it's a meeting place as well, isn't it.
00:57:41
Speaker 4: Oh, it's absolutely is. It's where everyone belongs. Where there's family, students or job seekers, older people, doesn't matter. It's really a great day out for many and provice really supports when life is busy or when our budgets are getting time. I think libraries are one of the few trusted civic spaces still available to anyone. Their places for learning and connection. They provide creativity, opportunities, belonging, and they really very trusted and well used community services, delivering even more value at a time when people need it most.
00:58:30
Speaker 3: Yeah no, well said, well, I think we should all do what I didn't have a bit of a revisit because it was a great habit. As a kid, we used to go into the Kintore Avenue the main library and borrow books and used to borrow tapes. I remember borrowing a Derek and Clive tape. Oh boy, we can absolutely stum that they even had it there. But thanks for coming on, Hanley, great chat and get into your local library.
00:58:55
Speaker 1: Right on seven thirty. Fil curry shortly our trial by during in the next half hour and what ab ourt listeners is called with a very helpful warning about a scam doing the rounds. That's all next.
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Speaker 5: Deevid Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 1: Twenty minutes to light try by jury coming up at a moment. Phil Curry not too far away either. We've talkedn libraries before the break. Got handed a bit a tidbit of useful motion. People down south the nor Lounger Library have a new media conversion station, so you can take your old VHS tapes or your family happy snaps and whatever old fashioned medium they're on and you can transfer it to something digital. So they're doing that in all longer at the moment, so many texts from listeners talking about the great things that they do at their local library and how happy they are to have one available near them. The other thing that we got during that news break that is certainly of interest was a call from one of our listeners, Tony Tony, to warn people. He received an email from hot dock, which is a website that many of our listeners we're familiar with. You use to book appointments with your doctor. Yeah, yeah, very well regarded. It's a totally legitimate service. He got an email from hot dock saying you need to update your details. He had a closer look at where the sender the sender's email address, and it turned out it was not hot dock at all. It was some nefarious type online and he said it looked incredibly professional and Schmick. People need to be aware of the fact that that one is a scam. So just double check the sender at all times. Is horribly creative shunks out there. I got a text the other day and said, Hi, Dad, just letting you know I've updated my phone detail.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, have you ever heard of that one? Yeah, that's a common one. So I texted safe and said, so just triple checking this is total bs IS and it. She goes, yeah, but who sits around dreaming this stuff up? Hey, I just want to quickly before we get to fill read this one out about libraries, Sarah says, guys, speaking of libraries, Modbury's Special School is currently building a library for our beautiful students because we currently do not have one. We're looking for donations of good, clean, quality junior books and picture books, early learning, young adult fiction, sens very friendly interactive. Any donations can be dropped off to Modbury's Special School. Nine Dampier Avenue, Hope Valley. Thank you for that, Sarah.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's head to Canberra. A lot's going on in the world. We've got an inflation crisis in the offing, we've got fuel prices through the roof, we've got the potential of fuel shortages. We've got all sorts of big questions to answer in the budget. We're all going through it in a way that's very difficult at the moment. Phil Curry's going through it too, with the added problem that he's a carlt and support Morning Film.
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Speaker 4: See that.
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Speaker 21: Yeah, the only thing, the only thing was to know what happened on Sunday is was that we thought expected it. I catched it halfway through the second quarter. He's a de supporter and I said, you're going to roll us and I've been in lunch at the Parliamentary canteen, so I got in early and profited from what I knew was going to come in the second half.
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Speaker 3: Seriously, you can just see him.
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Speaker 21: They always stop. You can just tell them when they stopped. It's like sort of blanket gets thrown over them and they just all go to pieces and you can see it there. They just drop their chins. So I'm now learning to profit from the misery. I played a Mongolian beef in the Tropic.
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Speaker 3: I was I always texted you during the game, and I thought, no, you're probably suffering enough.
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Speaker 21: Now when you just become an object of pity, you know, no text you anymore. The phone just go silent.
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Speaker 1: How do you feel that the few excise cut that comes into play tomorrow, But it's been a big talking point from among our listeners. Is this the kind of thing that's is it good politics and bad economic? What's what's the view on the ground.
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Speaker 21: That seems to be the sort of the view from the pointy heads over here. Most of the economists are saying, oh, it's inflationary. I mean the argument of kids doing it. Just last week when the television supporter it was that it will cost a lot of money. And look if the price was given the sort of mad frame of mind crumps in at the moment. He's just barking mad now. And if it puts ground trips or something like that, and the price of barrel of all goes up another ten bucks, it will disappear anyway, right, So it'll just get eaten up by another price fight. But at the other end, I mean kind of a sage inflation. I'm a bit sort of dubious about that because you know, for example, to drive a diesel, diesel's gone from like a buck eighty three twenty you're going to knock thirty cents off the price, it's still bloody expensive, or it's not eally going to rush out, you know, fi tanks, you know, so like it's fall into a dollar or something. So I'm a bit perplex about that side of the argument. But you know, obviously people are you know, it's killing people the crist of fuel. If you don't have an alternative but an electric car, or you take the bus or whatever, and you've got to drive, it's pretty nasty. So imagine most of it probably would would appreciate, but just taking the edge off it a bit. But it is expensive, and it's only for three months. And you know what happens if the war is still raging in three months, we're going to extend it for another three months, and then you're starting to get some serious you know, we're serious problems with the budget. I mean, the trouble is with this day whereas that we're starting this crisis and it's an economic crisis and the budget couldn't be worth shape. You know, we're already inflation through the roof and massive deficits before this began. You know, we always use government saying that, like before COVID or something like that, or the GFC, we were lucky, we had a strong budget, you know, before this started, so we could to build the shop there there there's no capacity to talk. So, I mean, inflation was three point seven percent in February, you knowo point seven above x MA Raine to three. So it's going to get pretty bad, this stuff. And you know, just spending money throwing out of the door. You could sort of make more of the case for it. Yeah, have we had a smaller deficit or even a surface but when you're forty billion in deficit and you just now roll and go out the door for a short term pix, it sort of gets a bit worrying.
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Speaker 3: What's being said sort of behind the scenes feel by the PM and ministers about the unpredictability of what is happening in the Middle East. I mean, in the last forty eight hours we've seen Donald Trump go from lauding the Iranians as good negotiators, saying that he's very confident that a deal can be done, and then today he says we've get back and he's going to bomb them back down. Say age again.
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Speaker 21: Yeah, look, well, I don't know if you saw the Prime Minister's press conference yesterday. Question he's asked by Marke Riley in the Channel seven he opened the shoulders pretty up on Trump and then he went harder on the seven thirty report last night. That sort of sort of mold version of what they're thinking behind the is they're really frustrated, they're really angry at what the US and Israel has done in terms of they understand. You know, no one likes to rhyme. Now it's depending the raining regime, but you don't go into one of these things half faked without knowing what you're doing and what the consequences are. And the fact that they've failed to anticipate that the first thing around would do was shut the straits of a mood, the straight up a move and not have a plant stop that. It's just the reckless, haphazard nature of what Trump has done, and he's seeming indifference to the sort of stuffer and it's now causing around the globe, and he clearly has no plan. He has no plan, and ABU about a week ago it was fairly sharp. I reported it. A few of us picked it up, where he sort of said a mold version of what he said yesterday. He said, look, you said you wanted to degrade their nuclear capacity and they're broader military reach. You seem to have done that, so get out of it. That was the effect of his words. And yesterday it was much clearer Trump, and he said, you know you've done everything you said you want to do, so why you still there. It's time to de escalate, and we have the sort of bizarre thing on the on the aeroplane. This day, Trump told the reporters that he had also achieved regime change. And no one believed that. You knock off the atoler and replace him with another a tool and it's all the same cronies. That's not regime change. It's a new jockey on the horse. But it was interesting last night out beneath it, because he said publicly, you're not going to history change. You can't change your regime by bombing a country. In fact, you tend to get the opposite a result just spark nationalism. But last night on seven thirty reported you're getting us so has he achieved regime change and used to say no, because they're actually the middle power leaders like Australia Canadate. They need to Trump needs to think he's had a win, because that bloke only does something when you think he's won. So it's a bit like this sort of you know, there's petulant toddler. You've got actually make you feel like he's one, he's one whatever with a fight and the play then and only then when they leave. If he thinks he's lost, it's not going to leave because for him, it's all about saving faith. So no one believes that he's achieved with regime change. He may claim it, but it's sort of in our interest to let him think he has done that. So he sort of winds things back because it's with every day that there it gets Messia and Messia and I could tell this field situation in May are now it's going to get pretty serious.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, great stuff is always phil Phil Curry, the national political editor for the Australian Financial Review.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was it was instructive just to Fiel's comments there and indeed a lot of our text line as well. That most recent I think it was Roy Morgan. There's so many poles these days, Fox and edge of Roy Morgan, you gov News poll. It wasn't Newspole, it was one of the other ones talked about. It polled the Australian attitudes to leaders and it was the highest that Paul Enhanced had it ever been. It was also the lowest Donald Trump's ever been in Australia. And I reckon that was that was a really interesting moment because I think there was a suspicion history being those two things would have moved in concert with one another, but they are. The right populis movement in Australia exists now in its own ecosystem, divorced from what's happening in the US, where you know, perhaps ironically, Donald Trump's never been less popular domestic league there at the moment, but also hugely unpopular here. But it's not a Margaret Trump related surge of right wing populism in Australia anymore. It's its own thing, fueled by house prices and immigration and a sense of not being listened to and so forth. But it's interesting Donald Trump at the moment, not winning friends anywhere.
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Speaker 3: He's a good example of how important it is to know about history and what field you said about bombing regimes into submission never really working, you know, because I think that the argument for doing what he did was a valid one, and I think it was an indictment on liberal governments, on smaller liberal governments. I mean that's governments like the Democrats that are was allowed to become so strong unchallenged by Western democracies. So for Trump to do what he did in the first instance, I was like, yes, But at the same time, it was but what next? And there's no thought given to the what it feels increasing like they're acting on bad intelligence. That there was a view that all it would take was sort of a decapitation strike on the leadership, and people would rise up because they'd seen five hundred unique students on CNN. You know, well, I think courageously not on on X.
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Speaker 1: I think there's a problem, and it happens right across the globe and the people that are chronically online and have a have an algorithmic in an algorithmally informed view of the world or a fake news of the way, and you get to see what you want to see. And you know what, if you click on a lot of links of people protesting in Iran, guess what you get. You get a lot of more videos of people protesting in Iran. And I wonder if it created a false sense that things were closer to revolution there than they might be. Which is not to say there's not a huge amount of disquiet there about an oppressive and awful, bloody regime. It's just that it's hard for average joes to suddenly take up arms against a ruling class that has the army on their site.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a huge army. Sorry about the technical dramas with our YouTube and app this morning. We've got the it people working on it. But maybe just to pretend it's nineteen sixty three and just you know, listening to some plug in the while on the trains, just the radio today.
01:11:28
Speaker 5: Five double a Breakfast David pen Burthe and Will Goodings.
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Speaker 22: In the criminal justice system, all defendant so innocent until proven guilty, either by confession, plea bargain, or trial by jury. This is one of those trials.
01:11:51
Speaker 1: You have one hundred dollars worth of semtes seafood to give away for the best quality seafood and best prices Semtest Seafoods open seven days factory. Derek Richmond rod At Richmond joined the duw rein cast your verdict on what is the question of the day. I think we just discussed it with Phil Curry. The fuel excise good politics but bad economics. Is there seems to be the divide that exists. But well, we're most interested in, as we always are, in what you our listeners think the cut of twenty six cents if you excuse me, without the decimal point.
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Speaker 3: There is it?
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Speaker 1: Is it a good policy or totally fuelish, totally fuelish good policy, or totally fuelish good policy or totally fuelish eight double two to three double a double O. Someone randomly on the jury will be selected to win the one hundred dollars worth of Semtas.
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Speaker 3: Seafood, which is perfect ahead of Good Friday, which is the most holy day on the Christian calendar. And yet again it's being sullied by the fact that, in our constant quest for permanent arousal and entertainment, even the Adelaide Football Club is besmirching itself by.
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Speaker 1: Playing I say that with total sincerity, hasn't Stirp played on.
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't go to that either. I just don't think and I don't even believe in God, But I think that Christianity the amount of the amount of sort of cowtowning that goes on to any other religion where you know, we're all sort of you turn on SBS and everything from Chinese New Year to the end of Ramadan, Todwali all get to mention. But when it comes to Christianity, you can you can say pretty much anything about Christian deities. You can have the Virgin Madonna playing the piano accordion just to take what I have to watch the footy on Good Friday?
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Speaker 1: You could just choose not to.
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Speaker 3: Can we just on the on the one day of the year that means so much to Christians? The day that poor old j C was was was strung up? I mean, we've got games that are actually happening at the very moment he was being crucified. Was it three twenty seven or something in the afternoon? What's that? This is gonna be the first quarter of the St Kilda game.
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Speaker 1: The other thing that the Nanny's on at that time too? Should we not have the Nanny on TV? Can you watch TV? I love this annual stink will can you watch the Nanny?
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Speaker 6: Or?
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Speaker 21: Is that?
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Speaker 3: Did they What I'm not saying, was it to like go full Taliban and only anything? Well, I think big mass public events. I guess the mass gatherings. So we could watch Flipping Across America, which is on nine Life at four o'clock in the hour. That was all right?
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Speaker 21: Why can we?
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Speaker 3: That's an appropriate and solemn reflection on them, is it?
01:14:41
Speaker 1: Listen, we're gonna do the jury. This is our favorite time of the year.
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Speaker 23: As John Travolda says in Fault Fiction to be continued, let's go to Jerry Number one, good policy or totally fuelish the fuel ex size cut foolish, feelish, thank you feelish?
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Speaker 1: If you could use the punus point, we're deadly serious about that jury. Did a good morning?
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Speaker 24: I love it on the fence.
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Speaker 21: I mean really, I was always taught that you know, ten percent nothing is nothing.
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Speaker 8: I don't know what.
01:15:18
Speaker 3: That's a good point.
01:15:19
Speaker 1: That's a reasonable point.
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Speaker 3: During number two, well and nothing, thank you?
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Speaker 17: Do you?
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Speaker 3: Number three?
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Speaker 1: Good morning?
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Speaker 19: It's good policy because everyone lives in the now, so no one's worried about what might be and how can it be a good Friday if there's no footing?
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Speaker 1: Thank you jer M three multiple.
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Speaker 3: It's always been part of East, hasn't it. Ossie Rules, you're number four, good morning, regular ballish.
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Speaker 6: It's just going to get swallowed up somewhere along the line.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, juring number four. Are you number five? Good morning?
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Speaker 18: I think it's good if it's done in the right way, none of.
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Speaker 8: This popping up extra stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, maybe yeah, there's a question about could have been more targeted to, you know, the trucking industry or something. During number six, good morning.
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Speaker 25: Good morning boys, good policy.
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Speaker 19: If it's all passed on and David started playing on goods, right.
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Speaker 3: They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. We should all be watching the Nanny in solitude.
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Speaker 1: During number seven, good morning, I.
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Speaker 24: Think we're taking a big risk because I reckon petrol would be less in the future and they should have the Evans and odds again.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, well, I think just randomly putting things in different columns here.
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Speaker 1: Stage four was talking about a few rationing of the governments, but we might take one more during number eight during number eight, good morning, Good.
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Speaker 21: Morning, guys.
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Speaker 2: Look foolishly.
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Speaker 21: You know the old saying in life, nothing is for free. They do this, We're going to pay for this for the who knows for how many more years.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. You're a number.
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Speaker 1: That's I think we should. We give you a numbers.
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Speaker 3: Let's do it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, simple as that. During number eight, you've got the sam taste seafood coming your way. Interesting jury. I think the majority was probably on the side that it's foolish policy, fuelish for the purpose of the marginally. Yeah, all right, it's a time for five double a news breaking eight coming up in just a moment.
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Speaker 5: Five double a breakfast deep in Pambervie and Will Goodings.
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Speaker 1: Ten minutes after eight. Huge amount of texts coming in on the text lines it before zero, eight, thirteen ninety five or a lot on good Friday.
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Speaker 3: Just one.
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Speaker 1: Brett sent a question two. We were debating earlier about the fuel excise, and I was talking about cutting the egg size and the absence of a savings measure has an inflationary impact. We're talking about the budget try implications of that, and Brett's just got it around backwards because he's had a go at me for saying I was advocating removing fringement. It's tax for ev Brett. I think you and I are on the same page. I was talking about making a saving by eliminating the egg. The fringe benefits tax exemption for EV's given the market is providing a pretty compelling argument to go that path. You don't need to artificially manipulate it.
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Speaker 3: At the moment, I use the out of cott newsbreak to just check exactly what time Jesus did die after he was crucified. He was crucified at nine am and he died at three pm, which is going to be the fifteen minute mark of the North Melbourne Carlton game this weekend. I've got to say I reckon the only thing worse than being crucified. We'll be watching North morldn play cardon at the moment. But that's how we're going to ob moment fully watching happens in your house.
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Speaker 1: But it ows it's not sort of a clockwork Ora install compulsion with your eyes pined back forcing you to watch it.
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Speaker 3: You're actually free to do whatever the hell you want. We'll get to all these texts after we talk to the premiere. There's a mountain of them. Let's do that. Well. He was at National Cabinet yesterday for the big discussions around how to deal with the fuel crisis. The head line announcement from which was the fact that for three months there's going to be this halving in fuel like size. Premier Peter malanowskis joins us today for breaking a eight premier. What did you make of that decision, because there's a lot of talk about whether it's potentially going to be inflationary and could result in further pressure on interest rates. Do you think you've got the balance right?
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Speaker 24: Look, I think the Comwealth had no choice but to try and make a move here because ultimately what inflationary is petrol price is going up. I mean, we've already seen the RBA respond to the implications of that. So what we see here is the Commonwealth seeking to ameliate the impacts of petrol prices going up, which means they'll go down. I think, you know, it's a few steps removed to be able to argue the case that it's inflationary when a natial fact the price of petrol will go down. And of course what we know and I think what the country is getting a pretty sharp lesson is just how entwined hydrocarbons are in our economy writ large. But the real retail example here is if petrol prices go up, then someone delivering milk to the local bakery, they're going to pass that cost on to the baker, and then the baker will have to pass that cost on to the consumer. So I can entirely understand why the commod has made this decision. And I, for one supporter, how.
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Speaker 3: Are we looking locally? What's the situation like at the moment here with fuel supplies.
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Speaker 24: So everything's happening as per usual and in terms of supply, and we still see the tankers rolling into Port Adelaide, which is our principal import terminal for fuel supplies. Around about a bit over half of our fuel supplies comes from Southeast Asia, principally Singapore, and the rest comes in a tanker from Geelong, where there is one of the country's two remaining refineries. And all those vessels have arrived at Port Adlaide on schedule for all refined fuel products diesel unleaded ninety one and so forth. So as it stands, we've seen we're just seen signs this morning of a bit of an amelioration in price already, which might be a function of demand coming off a little bit within the marketplace. There was a suggestion late last week from RAA we had started to see signs that the demand spikes that have been so acute throughout the state and around in fact around the country have started to come off a little bit. But we want to see a little bit more of that before we sort of account for it as a trend. But certainly, as far as supply is concerned, gence everything is on track. I guess what we're all trying to plan for is what happens if that changes, if this war protracts and ends up escalating throughout the month of May and June.
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Speaker 1: Premier interest in your thoughts on a concept that's been floated on the left in Australia in reaction to a fuel shock like this one like the one we've seen when the we're in Ukraine broke out as well, and this would be a federal in the federal sphere. It would affect a large company based in South Australia in Santos, the call for an export tax on gas with prices spiking infrastructure hit in the middle Eastern guitar and so forth. Is there any merit to an idea like that? Do you think?
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Speaker 21: Well?
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Speaker 24: I think it's proven to assess all our options under extraordinary circumstances. The only point I'd make is that when it comes to policy interventions around taxation, you really want to think through what the long term consequences are, because a knee jerk reaction could end up having an eco on opposite reaction that becomes regrettable later. And the best recent example of that we've got as a country is some of the decisions that we made during COVID. I don't make a critique of the Morrison government when it comes to Job Keeper, for instance, because at the time it absolutely seemed like the right thing to do, but with hindsight it was over engineered and it had a huge, lasting inflationary impact throughout the economy that arguably we're still feeling the effects of today. My simple point being is, and I've made this point in National Cabinet. I'm an advocate of making sure that we really think this through, assess the economic advice, and don't make rash decisions, particularly when what we want as a country is to see companies like Santos and Woodside and others. Beach Energy another good South Australian company investing in the curation of supply, so any disincentive against that we may well regret later.
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Speaker 1: Premier this might in some ways this seems beyond the point, but we should probably be locking in things that are of economic benefit to South Australian's at a time when we are under facing economic challenges. I speak of gather around the AFL CEO in town for negotiations. Are you confident that it's going to be locked the way long term?
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Speaker 24: I'm never over confident about these things. Look, the AFL have been a great partner for the state in recent years on gather around. We've had a really good working relationship. But I'm also not naive to the fact that they operate on a commercial basis, and my responsibility is to make sure the state government does as well. So you know, we've got a negotiation to be had now we're both committed to that negotiation. You know, I've had it on ice for some time now, so now it's an opportunity to sit down and get together and see if we can't nutt anything out. I don't feel a sense of urgency. I'm not going to rush.
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Speaker 9: Rush this.
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Speaker 24: The only circumstances under which we're going to reach a quick agreement is if it's in the interest of South Australians, and again there's a fair bit to negotiate. Their price being really important, the AFL are going to want to. I've seen some reports which presumably you're coming out of the AFL to the media that they want the price of gather Around to go up. I don't think so. The reason why I say that. The reason why I say that is because where the whe that have made gather Around the success that it is in conjunction with the AFL, and we shouldn't have any sort of misapprehension on behalf of the AFL that South Australia's success should be exclusively to their benefit.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is it. I mean, if the AFL is going to sort of sit there coquettishly twirling its hair with its fingers, seeing which state government's going to come along and give it the most money, don't we sort of have the whip hand where we say, well, listen, you can hold it in Sydney or Brisbane where no one will go. You can hold it in per particularly in the midst of a fuel crunch where no one's going to be able to afford to get there. We're can hold in Tasmania where they haven't even got a stadium exactly so, exactly so you need to get the check book out.
01:25:45
Speaker 24: You can do the negotiations for me, Dave. But you're absolutely right, and it takes us back to the beginning, which are the points that I made, particularly in regards to the AFL wanting to take it to Sydney. In the start, I said, well, look, if you go to Sydney, you're going to have six people what a you know, Gold Coast versus free oh at a Western city stadium, whereas here we've had consistent sellouts. In fact, I think I think at the moment every game is sold out, with the exception of the Saturday afternoon game between Estendon and Melbourne, but even there I think there's other thirty thousand tickets sold. So but you know, we've done this well. But look, to be fair to the AFL, they have been good partners on this and they have invested in data around as well, and we've got a model that works. I think it's in both our interests to stick to it. And you know, we're putting a few things on the table that we think can enhance it as a value proposition for families because the secret sources gather around that people often neglect to mention is that it has been of great value to families, both people who travel and South Australians who stay here. Ticket prices we are very deliberately kept low. People can come and see a lot of footy. You know, they can go to a lot of footy for under one hundred bucks. You know, with ticket prices, I've either been free ten dollars or around the twenty dollars mark. It's good value. And now the ticket price so that the petrol prices are variable. And I'm working with the AFL on seeing if we can't do something there as well for people traveling across the border, because that's in our economic interest. So we want to keep it a value proposition for families because they're the ones that make it happen.
01:27:27
Speaker 3: That's interesting what potential sorts of measures could be taken with the AFL for people driving here.
01:27:34
Speaker 24: Well, the most important is supply and you know, I you know, we've seen reports of some people who thinking through their travel arrangements because they're worried that they're going to get you know, to Keith and won't be able to buy petrol. So we can address that. It hasn't been an issue in the past. I don't have any reason to believe it will be an issue for this gather round, but we're looking at some measures that we can institute that will at least give people the confidence that it's need to fill up across you know, on their way through, whether it be a border town or Keith or you know wherever, that they'll have the means.
01:28:09
Speaker 3: To be able to do it. Thanks for joining us, Premier Peter Millan ask us this morning Jesus.
01:28:16
Speaker 1: Twenty after eight lots of thoughts coming through the text line. We might take a quick break and we'll get to some of those in just a moment. Eight double two three double o double is our number, or you can flick us a thought on zero four eight zero eight thirteen ninety.
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Speaker 5: Five David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:28:33
Speaker 1: Well, I thought we might leave the Good Friday footy fight till Wednesday this week, but we started at early. It happened four eight o'clock and the listeners are divided. David on the text line, I think the fight should go all week. I actually think it's good that we discuss it. There's a really really good discussion to have one here. Good morning, David Will. I completely agree with you, David, that whether you're a Christian or not, respect should be shown by the recognition of Good Friday as a day of reverence and not for bread and circuses. Happy Easter from Chris one here am well said Pembo. People are happy to take the day off, but not so quick to respect what it stands for. Conversely, Buffalo Bill says, oh, dear David, this is the twenty first century, not the nineteen fifties. What percentage of Christians are there in society? How many really follow their faith religiously? You're possibly in the one percent that want to sit around at home. Let's enjoy the footy. I will be, and so will tens of thousands of other supporters. Thanks for that, Buffalo Bill. And then Mark says less than ten percent of Australians go to church weekly, and what somebody wants to stop ninety percent of Australians from enjoying just another Friday? The way they choose to enjoy it. Give me a break.
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Speaker 3: There's a really good one further down about someone who had a holiday in Germany. Here we go, Nathan. I think David has a valid point. I visited Germany once for a holiday. Everything there shuts down on Sundays. When I returned, I complained to a German colleague, and their response was, isn't it great you get to spend time with friends and family? She had a point. From my secular point of view, I'm well and really sick of the AFL's desire to parasitically saturate every conceivable aspective of society. I think that's a separate point because I don't disagree with that.
01:30:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, I barely have the energy to must have been Christine.
01:30:11
Speaker 3: How the crows are going these days as a result, Yeah, I think separate and excellent point. Then Angela says she's going to be watching the Life of Brian on Friday and that she thinks that Jesus himself would approve. What do you watch?
01:30:25
Speaker 1: Your line on watching the Monty Python.
01:30:27
Speaker 3: I think Life of Brian is such a terrifically intelligent film, and it's it's about the theology and raises all footy too low brow. We are going to have that that was a cheap shot.
01:30:44
Speaker 1: I'm not going to know.
01:30:45
Speaker 3: I'm not going to specifically watch Life of Brian. But Good Friday Afternoon, okay, but I've got no issue with the film. Okay, it is terrific.
01:30:55
Speaker 1: Let's talk about good things to do this weekend beyond Good Friday, where we try to give a bit of a sense of the great things you can do in Adelaide that might cost you an arm and a leg at a time when we're all trying to save a couple of bucks. Dr Samantha Hamilton is the director of one of my favorite places in the city, the South Australian Museum. Doctor Hamilton, good morning to you.
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Speaker 10: Good morning.
01:31:17
Speaker 3: You've got a great job. Dr Hamilton. What's your favorite thing at the museum?
01:31:23
Speaker 10: Well, I can't actually pick just one favorite thing. The whole thing is my favorite, just like you. It's just you know, loving it so much. I just love the whole thing.
01:31:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like picking your favorite child, isn't it. But what about the the Egyptology room is pretty pretty hard to go past, isn't That's such.
01:31:39
Speaker 1: An amazing room? You feel like you're in a Tintin book when.
01:31:41
Speaker 10: You go in there, it's fabulous.
01:31:45
Speaker 3: What about is there? Is it much of a discussion like because I know that in Britain they've had the big thing with Greece about the Elgin marbles, have were they had to grapple with any issues like that.
01:31:55
Speaker 1: With some of the stuff that we've.
01:31:56
Speaker 10: Got, well, there's always discussion and there in the museum sector about you know, what should be there and what should not be there. You know, there are things on display, you know, those mummified remains. Some people think that it's appropriate and some people think that they're not. Yeah, you know, there's always going to be division, a bit like the football discussion there, right, There's going to be things that people agree with, some things.
01:32:23
Speaker 3: That they don't. But the reason we've got you on basically, you know, for moments, I've only got one question, which is how great is the South Australian Museum. But it is important for people to be reminded because often we get older, we think I went to the museum years ago. I went there on a school excursion. But people are looking for something unique and fascinating to do that costs nothing. It's important to remind people that you're still there.
01:32:47
Speaker 10: Absolutely.
01:32:49
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:32:49
Speaker 10: I mean that museum, you know, in my perspective, is our state's pride and joy. Really. You know, it's a place where it helps the community understand life nerves. You know, it takes us all the way back to the beginning of life with you know, the fossils and five hundred million year old stories all the way to the present day.
01:33:08
Speaker 19: So I think, yeah, I'm also a big.
01:33:10
Speaker 10: Fan of reminding everyone that it's their museum. It's an important place, and there's so much to do for free. I mean, we're so lucky to be available and free to the public. People are welcome to come in there. We're open every day ten am to five pm, except for Good Friday and then on Antac Day we're going to have reduced hours starting.
01:33:31
Speaker 4: At twelve pm.
01:33:32
Speaker 10: But yeah, we've got temporary displays at the moment, we've got a couple of great displays, one being from the Papaya Community. It's in our temporary gallery in the Aboriginal Cultures Gallery, and that's got some gorgeous illustrations and drawings and storybooks and animations about a school, a remote school. They're in the Papunya community, so I encourage people to go and have a look at that. We've also got this fantastic display in our foyer Creatures of the Paleozoic, and there's these incredible drawings and recreations of five hundred million year old fossils and that were discovered in the in U Bain Kangaroo Island, So we're telling those stories as well. And then there's going to be lots of free activities over the school holidays. You know, people can come into the Discovery Center which is open Wednesday's, Friday, Saturdays and Sundays, and it's.
01:34:25
Speaker 3: A good thing to do with the kids during school holidays for sure, never a shortage of stuff to get into.
01:34:31
Speaker 1: My daughter has the best time going there. She absolutely loves it. It's just great to see.
01:34:35
Speaker 3: Have you ever has she ever been freaked out by some of those death masks from Vaniwatu in the They didn't register for it. It was so crazy. I mentioned being one of the first explorers, particularly when they were still doing a enthusiastic job of the old cannibalism there too, like your rocket.
01:34:51
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of religion, it was the missionaries that came to grief, wasn't it.
01:34:59
Speaker 3: You say there's a good thing.
01:35:00
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm just saying it was a thing that happened, That's all I'm saying.
01:35:03
Speaker 3: Late is nineteen seventy one. Yeah, Samantha Hamilton, Doctor, Samantha Hamilton, the ESA Museum Director, Thanks for coming.
01:35:11
Speaker 5: On five double a breakfast. David Penberthy and Will Goodings.
01:35:20
Speaker 1: Twenty to nine. We're going to call from Ben in McLaren flat about something going on the trains this morning. Ben, Good morning to you.
01:35:28
Speaker 8: Yeah, Hi, I will Yeah, just to let you know the dad laid line. We stopped at Woodlands because of broken doors apparently, and we've been here and now we've you know, about to get on another train, but we've already been here for three quarters of an hour and that train that we were on just drove off.
01:35:47
Speaker 4: But I'm not sure.
01:35:48
Speaker 8: Well, we couldn't have been on that train in the.
01:35:50
Speaker 17: First place and just kept going.
01:35:52
Speaker 3: But anyway, that is a bit peculiar.
01:35:54
Speaker 17: Yeah, they said about broken door.
01:35:55
Speaker 8: It's just ironic, isn't it. You know that they're.
01:35:57
Speaker 24: Encouraging ust to date public transport.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly a lot of things to go smoothly, but anyway, just letting people know. Yeah, the Adelaide, the secret Dadelaide line. Yeah, unfortunately. And also, David, can I just quickly say to you, you know, I absolutely agree with you about the Good Friday thing, and you know, and you made the point about you know, you turn it on TV and you see about this religion and that religion. I did some nursing in Kuwait. And and you can't even put a star up at Christmas?
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Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, I think right, yeah, yeah, you can't put a star up, can't. You know You've got to practice all your Catholics and underground and yeah, it's just you know, it's one rule for one and one rule for another.
01:36:45
Speaker 8: Around the world.
01:36:46
Speaker 20: And yeah, I agree with you about respecting Good Friday.
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Speaker 3: Well, thank you. Ben. Way would be like it was in the seventies when people go, what's open on Good Friday? The ants, I reckon, she's just been nothing. I just think it was better. How do we end up in this position where you're the Catholic here part of our complex relationship. I feel like I'm channeling Eric Charles Penburdy, my Methodist grandfather.
01:37:12
Speaker 1: Let's see, it's this sort of I think everyone should be I mean, the day exists because it's a fundamentally important day for so many Australians in the history, and it should be observed and they should be afforded the luxury of having a day and a weekend where you can do that. The question, the heart of the question for mine, is should others be what should others be compelled to do? Because we don't, as part of a free society, compel people to do much. But we do and we don't, and I sort of see it as part of it. I put it in the same context as the ban on mobile phones in schools now there's a lot of evidence that that has made kids behave differently where they think, what am I going to do now I'm going to have a conversation with somebody Like it's sort of.
01:38:03
Speaker 3: This constant need to be stimulated. Does even things like the Boxing day sales for crying outloud? Well, cay, you just sit around at home with your family leading cold turkey.
01:38:13
Speaker 4: You can't.
01:38:13
Speaker 3: You can?
01:38:14
Speaker 1: You can also you don't want to, you can do something else. That's kind of the fundamental what we allow in a free society.
01:38:22
Speaker 3: But we've got to the point where we can't. We can't get we can't face the idea of having one day, even one afternoon, where it's mandated that you don't do anything but just reflect. And you can reflect in a Christian way, you can reflect in a secular way on how lucky you are to have a good family, have a decent meal in front of you. It just feels like, you know, there always.
01:38:46
Speaker 1: Has to be something, but it sounds it sounds more like then you see Good Friday as an opportunity to push back against sort of you know, the sort of the encroachment of technology on modern life, more so than an opportunity to.
01:38:57
Speaker 3: Reflect on I think we should crucive. Well, no, I think we should respect the Christian tradition, and I think we don't do a very good job of that. Michael. This is where it goes back to my question the Nanny. So, but but why is why is the tipping point? Footy?
01:39:11
Speaker 1: I get all that, but why do we we never have debates around, you know, being able to flip on the radio and listen to top forty music on the day, or we never have debates around watching the Nanny at four o'clock in the afternoon.
01:39:22
Speaker 3: So it's logical because at what point does the scale of the entertainment But that's that's right.
01:39:28
Speaker 1: Why does it just why is footy the point at which where we draw the line?
01:39:32
Speaker 21: Because it just.
01:39:32
Speaker 3: Looked like it was a real crossing the rubicon moment in terms of all, let's just give give up completely the idea that any of these traditions should be respected, like if you're can have a mass event, it just it feels like it's such an up yours to the tradition that was that.
01:39:47
Speaker 1: Lots of people went to m I don't know, we don't compel people to go to the Adelaide cap on, not on the Monday exactly, Larry and saulisbrey downs on the one morning.
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Speaker 3: Mary, Yeah, we talk about.
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Speaker 25: The Easter thing here, right. I don't agree with football earning sports on a Friday. But what I used to do way back in my younger days, it will sit down and watch. There was three movies that watched. This was Barrabas King of Kings, uh and what's the greatest story ever told? You know with Victim Mature and all those rightstone and that's where we should be sitting down and watching knows historical religious movies. So the children of today. If if you could get a ten year old to sit.
01:40:32
Speaker 8: Down and watch a.
01:40:33
Speaker 25: Three hour movie, well well that'll be that'll be a miracle in itself.
01:40:37
Speaker 1: I reckon no fond memories of school of watching Ben hur An Easter Week each.
01:40:42
Speaker 3: Year's love that which of those movies is the one that John Waynes in? He's in one of those films, isn't here? He said he truly was the son of God. And someone said the director said, John, can you say it with more awe?
01:40:58
Speaker 1: And he said, oh, he truly was the seventh Guy. I love the ceremony of of Easter Week and the and the build up and through Lent and so forth. But I used to always think teachers, clearly in Catholic schools enjoyed and what are we going to do this afternoon? Oh that's right, Easter week will chuck ben eer on that that takes care of most of the day. Darcy, good morning.
01:41:22
Speaker 26: Good morning, trains of pace from Easter trying to use the power of radio and find the older gentleman from yesterday. I paid for his fuel at the exconvenience of Valley View, and I want to buy his grandkids and great grandkids all their chocky eggs for Easter to reduce their.
01:41:43
Speaker 20: Come it up.
01:41:44
Speaker 3: So yeah, if he's.
01:41:46
Speaker 26: Listening in touch with the radio, and I'll give you some cabriy eggs and stuff to give to your great grandkids and grandkids.
01:41:58
Speaker 3: Man. If well, Darcy, it's very generous of you, mate. And if and if the person that you paid that for paid that forward for is listening, give us a call eight double two three double a, yeah.
01:42:08
Speaker 1: Double a in touch. More people should be like Darcy.
01:42:12
Speaker 3: That reminds me I should share that one of our listeners. We're talking the other day about how great the Vietnamese community is and what an amazing contribution they've made to life in Australia, hard working people. And then we did the barn Me conversation and I mentioned my local barn Me vendor, Goodie good at Yum Yum, and said how good the ice coffee was. Well, a lady went in there and she left a little post it note handwrote in the shop saying, Hey, Dave just wanted you know know, love the show listen all the time. But then when I went to pay for that day's ice coffee, Anna in the shop she said this is on She said, it was not on us, it's on your listener, because she said she was going to pay it forward. So she paid for me to get an ice coffee. How nice?
01:42:55
Speaker 1: That well done?
01:42:56
Speaker 3: And this she sounded like a like a like a very funny person because she'd never tried and I mean funny, amusing, because she'd never tried Vietnamese ice coffee before. And she bought one for herself and and I said, what do you think? And she said that's better than sex. Wow, that's quite the review, all right.
01:43:15
Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
01:43:24
Speaker 1: Ten minutes to nine. Someone of the texts, I just asks where can I get this iced coffee?
01:43:29
Speaker 3: I'll have what she's having.
01:43:31
Speaker 1: I tell you what one thing that might be better than that iced coffee. As the sacker is going back to back in winning the Sheffield Shield, I mean I genuinely have after the winn in the mid nineties and the toil of the last couple of decades, didn't think it was necessarily ever going to happen again in my lifetime. That happened twice. It feels completely surreal, and it's on the back of one of our great local cricketers Alex Carey, who again was just remarkable when he joins us now on five double O breakfast. Alex, congratulations to your mate. Just an unbelievable performance by you and your term mates.
01:44:07
Speaker 6: Yeah, good morning guys. Thanks having me on it. It certainly was. I guess you know, we'll get to it. But I don't think too many traveling Sheffield Chield teams have won away of wait anyway. And to come over to Victoria and get the chocolates is yeah, a great feeling.
01:44:27
Speaker 3: What was the belief like on Sunday when you went out about Alex? You must have felt pretty daunted by it. No, not really.
01:44:35
Speaker 6: We have been really, I guess strong in not worrying too much about the situation of the game and letting that dictate how we play. We believe if we take the scoreboard out of it for long enough, we'll play good cricket. We'll stick to our processes and hopefully things go our way. It doesn't always happen, but yeah, I wasn't looking at the scoreboard too much. Obviously you were in a bit of stick situation. But the way that nathanick Andrew was able to occupy the other end and probably play his best inning to South Australia. Was great to see. We know what he can do with the ball in hand, but with the bat he was outstanding.
01:45:14
Speaker 3: How the celebrations last night, what was the plan of attack?
01:45:18
Speaker 6: Yeah, well they started pretty early. We I think we bowled him out at about eleven am, so no, it was a nice afternoon. We had a lot of support from South Australian family and friends make the trip over, so you know we're able to celebrate with them, and yeah, we'll jump on the plane this morning. We'll head back to ad Lada. I think we're in thunder Ball the cartoon at four point thirty, which was we did it last year. We had a nice turnout, so hopefully we can see some of the local fans at Rundle Mall the cartnoon.
01:45:49
Speaker 1: To what do you put the turnaround down? Alex, Your career has spanned a period of despair from the Jellybacks to our two times Sheffield Chield winners. What what what's changed in your view?
01:46:02
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good question. I experienced a little bit los of my time here at the Sacker and hasn't always been I guess this enjoyable at times. It was pretty tough and to be able to have a list which took a long time to build, a really you know, strong list of players to come over from inter state and those players wanted to develop their cricket and play more first class cricket and hostally one day represent the country. And we've got a really strong bowling attack. We've got a lot of depth. I do also acknowledge the coaches that we've had in the past and trying to build this list in it and it's not just a we've had success over two years. It's been a longer build than that. And yeah, I do appreciate that as well. But I think you know Ryan Harris, the way that he inspires the group, you guys would know. The way that he played the game was tough. He always loves the ball in hand and one of the contests and I think he wanted to run out there yesterday with us, very passionate. He loves it and he gets the best out of this good You.
01:47:08
Speaker 3: Sound like you're holding up all right, MA. It's probably blessing in the guy's not having Travis Head there for the celebrations. I guess.
01:47:15
Speaker 6: The boys are pretty good.
01:47:18
Speaker 1: Well, you get used to it now, I guess, aren't you.
01:47:21
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm getting a bit older too, I can't keep up with then it's yeah, look, it was a lot of fun. There was just lots of lots of happy people around the place yesterday afternoon. And I guess, you know, looking looking back last year was really special. To do it in front of home, family and friends in Adelaide at Karen Rolton, which was amazing. But and after how long it had been, I guess we'll look back on this one. Going back to back is probably a better victory, a better win. And at times we were definitely behind the game and to stay in it long enough and to be able to turn that around and to defend one hundred and ninety was a lea special effort.
01:48:01
Speaker 3: Where was it played in Melbourne? Which ground was were you at?
01:48:05
Speaker 6: We're at the junction over American. It's a nice venue. We probably had a few more fans there over Saturday and Sunday. We wrapped it up Monday morning, so there was you know, people went back to work. But yeah, we were pretty happy.
01:48:20
Speaker 3: Well, mate, you've done the state proud. As it's you know two years running now and after the amazing summer you had, not just with the gloves but with the bat for the Test team. It's a nice sort of cherry on top for what's been a great and hugely successful summer for you.
01:48:36
Speaker 6: No thank you, It certainly has it's look back and yeah, it's been a pretty special couple of years to be honest. Won the Shield last year, won the Ashes this summer, and to be able to go back to backwards, a group of guys who have a lot of fun playing with, you know, for a state that I love playing forward.
01:48:57
Speaker 2: It's great.
01:48:58
Speaker 3: Good on you, mate, Alex Cary. How that triumphant read back? Brilliant, brilliant performance bus out Australia.
01:49:05
Speaker 1: We've got a great text earlier from someone saying too, did you see how happy KG was? He was on seven last night and there was no act, there was no performance.
01:49:13
Speaker 3: He looked.
01:49:13
Speaker 1: I've genuinely never seen Cage look so happy. It was like he was in heaven winning the Shield two years in a row. As he said, he certainly didn't expect to live to see another Shield win, let alone getting to see two of them, and who knows, maybe more they're just a dominant side. Let's a look at the fuel situation. Better to be a member with RAA road service now again with that massive qualifier, what qualifies as cheap these days doesn't sound like it, but it is, a few petrol stations have already dropped prices. So the Northeast Road there are four stations at two thirty nine point five, which if you look at the twenty sixth sense that we're going to be getting from tomorrow, that's sort of in line with the new price that you'll see. The mobile Shadow Parks I was thirty nine point five as well. The average though is still two fifty nine point nine. If you take in the regions, it's over two sixty and it's the most expensive unleaded price in the nation according to the National Fuel Watch. Diesel similar things our Northeast Road. If you go to Northeast Road today, Philip, that's going to be a cheap as you're going to get at diesels now three dollars nine point five kriche. The average though, three dollars twenty four point nine. Across the majority of metro stations. Once again, regionally, you're going to be playing significantly more than that. So expensive and it yeah, so fuel excise officially kicks in tomorrow, and we'll keep a close ey on how readily that is passed on. I would imagine it gets passed on straight away.
01:50:42
Speaker 3: We're going to continue this conversation tomorrow. We only do you think we can put a line through it? Now, I'll tell you what the listeners are into it. Yeah, we've got a mountain of feedback about it. It wasn't a Kyle and Jackie O type moment. I still love and respect you. We agree to disagree.
01:50:57
Speaker 1: It's good, isn't it.
01:50:58
Speaker 3: It's anoying art to dying are agreeing to disagree.
01:51:02
Speaker 1: Because people just habitate among their people, like minded people entirely. Now you can craft your entire existence online around only ever seeing opinions that reinforce what you already think.
01:51:12
Speaker 3: Someone pointed that out in the comment section on a Piece of It for the OZ, starting with Jane Carro, the author one of the men boycotts of writers work, who was on Saturday night the South Australian election, saying FFS South Australia, how can you vote for Hanson? How can you vote for one nation? YadA, YadA, YadA, and then Mike Car't and jumped in all the usual suspects. Someone pointed out that if you look at their Twitter feeds, they block everyone who doesn't agree with them.
01:51:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a way to live. You can cultivate in existence these days.
01:51:42
Speaker 3: Believer.
01:51:42
Speaker 1: That means you don't ever have to be confronted with the descending opinion, which is a boring way to live.
01:51:47
Speaker 3: I would have thought so.
01:51:48
Speaker 1: Thanks for being part of the discussion this morning, folks. David will be doing nothing on Friday. See tomorrow us a wrong bound soil.
01:52:03
Speaker 3: Lots of packing up comes you, Ota falls on line, covering everything to you. In sand Astrabia, this is three. Nowhere he's seen as an upstairs
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Speaker 1: Hey, but it's after six. Good morning to you. Welcome to Tuesday on five double A Breakfast, the thirty first of March, so the last day of March. We'll it be our last day with a thirty degree max. Certainly, if we look ahead on the forecast on this Tuesday morning, there's nothing thirty wise ahead as we get deeper into wadum and begin to encroach on winter. So enjoy the day. It's going to be a magnificent one. In Adelaide, I'm going to have some fun this morning. We'll be chatting with the Institute of the a News Institute of Space Associate Director Kate Ferguson a little bit later this morning. We spoke yesterday about the artimist missions sending human beings. This first mission that's taking off for the next week will send men and woman in this case back to the Moon, not on the moon, but they're going further than anyone in the history of humankind has gone before. Well Australia is helping, and Australia's helping with the really interesting bit of technology that they didn't need fifty odd years ago. We'll talk about that after six thirty. Also on the program, we're going to be heading to the final whereabouts of Desi Freeman. Cassie Zervos broke the story for seven years during the morning yesterday, she's been embedded there. We'll talk to her about that. We're going to shine a spotlight on some really fun and free activities this morning, going to the State Library, going to the museum. We'll find out what's on what you can do there. Of course you don't have to pay, which is excellent at the moment. Phil Curry beyond the show and Alex Carey, David Penberthy looking forward to chatting with the hero of the Redbacks back to back Shield finals wins. It sounds surreal to say good morning to you.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, well, good morning listeners. What I've finished that was by the the bowlers to just go in there and clean them up. Just fantastic crickets, superb and same unt of cricket's mental, isn't it. You're just get to run on a side and suddenly it's like, oh, you know, the mood in the Victorian change rooms must have been one of great, great sort of anxiety because they all collectively just got the yips. Good batsman out.
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Speaker 1: There, terrific creator about You're right, that's one of the night It's like putting engulf too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, was Ian Baker Finch who famously got the yips so badly that he just yeah, basically ended his career.
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Speaker 1: But those the sports where you've got time to think. The brain plays such a bigger role. And you're right. You look at batsmen when they come out and they're one four hundred and ninety compared when they're four for forty. Yeah, and look and then you could have the same pinch. It looks like every delivery is a hand grenade. It's like in tennis, I've reready miss playing tennis. I've got to get back into it. Inspired by Henry Young, he took it up when he was sixty five. That means I've still got nine years on here if I resume playing tennis now. But often in tennis, when you've got like a ball coming at you that you're a payment has mishit and they've just tapped it off the top of their racket and it's gone straight up into the air and you've got like five seconds to plan in your lot.
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Speaker 3: So easy to stuff it up, yeah, because you just going okay, well I can put this one away. Sport's way easy when you don't have to think about it. Yeah, the moment thought comes into it issues. Yeah, it's a problem, but we're gonna have a bit of fun with the sounds this morning, just this morning the National Film and so what was that one? I don't know really, it was just you know, I think it was a random bird. It was from the Timi Eery show.
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Speaker 1: Was it was? It was casey? Okay. The National Film and Sound Archive of Australia have they do this every year and they have done since two thousand and seven, where they put things into the archive that are of cultural significance. In fact, their definition involves culture, political, life and environment. And what they've done is this year they've added nine things to the Australian National Film and Sound Archive of Australia. So nine bits of sound. They have to all be songs. Some of them are songs. For example, are the oldest sound that's going into the archive. Mark Heins Marchina Heines from nineteen seventy seven. The only criteria for this is that the sounds capture audio moments of creativity Australian identity in everyday life that resonate across generations. And they need to be more than ten years old. Notice none of that said music, which is why this has made it.
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Speaker 4: Gentlemen, there is debucrocy manifest.
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Speaker 3: Here's the charge eating on the old A succulent Chinese me. Oh yes, I see that.
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Speaker 1: You know your judo Jack Carlson with Chris Reason was there at the time who we're speaking with in Tel Aviv in nineteen ninety one. He was there when Jack Carlson was arrested and gave that famous Democracy manifest speech that's now in the National films Ow Dark, which is just incredible. This made it in.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, other it was Pong.
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Speaker 1: That's the pedestrian crossing signal which came into nineteen eighty four. It sounded like pong at the start. It did sound a bit like pong.
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Speaker 3: They do.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't there a band recently that used the Australian crossing signal? Billy Eilish used it, Thank you Patrick in a song, sampled it in a song, just that it was such a good, unique sound. The Australian pedestrian crossing a signal. This made it in man, This made it in two.
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Speaker 4: Ever too late to learn find this number.
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Speaker 3: G double oh six driple fame the reading writing hot.
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Speaker 4: Life O G double oh six driple.
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Speaker 1: Fame, the reading writing hotline. Jingle by Peter Sullivan and sung by Andrew Lay from two thousand and one made it in that I'd used to play in five double A oh, I think you've played everywhere. Clearly there's a great deal of recognition and some more modern music as well, modern inn a sort of sense of this from two thousand and two.
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Speaker 3: Here it's the close to her doesn't that make a ship?
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Speaker 1: Ways, Chrissy Higgins with Scar we're asking you this morning. Then what's the sound? So it could be a song, it could be a moment. I mean it just could be an environmental sound like the pedestrian crossing was. That needs to be put into the National Film and Sound Archive of Australia. Eight double two to three double O double is the number you can text us on zero befour eight zero eight thirteen ninety five.
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Speaker 3: That isn't it.
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Speaker 1: We can use the two an eclectic bunch of things. A few things are more eclectic than the bunch of things have just been added to the National film. It's the national sound of Darkive.
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Speaker 3: I would put the drums at the start of Leilani, the song by the Hoodoo Gurus on their debut album Stone Age Romeos in.
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Speaker 1: There, okay, because I just did such a great.
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Speaker 3: Moment in Australian music and it signaled the arrival of that band who, frankly I reckon they should have just stopped after their first record. It's just so good that record. But there's something that really puts Australia in the Asia Pacific in that song. It's just it's just I don't know what it is about that song, but I just love it. The start of Lailani would be my choice. Well, that fits the bill, says one Bond Scott's bagpipes. Ah.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: If they're not in there already, they should be.
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Speaker 1: We need to we need to check what's already in. It doesn't matter for the purpose of this exercise because we'll just take more nominations, but we might we might check against them. What's in the what's in the archive. So recordings with cultural, historical and esthetic significance and relevance which informal reflect life in Australia.
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Speaker 3: Have ad it.
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Speaker 1: Folks eight double two three double A double O are texts on zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five. Hold that thought. We'll come back to it on the other side of this break.
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Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 3: Forgot to mention Joe Dolci made it as well. Shut up your fakes.
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Speaker 1: This is in the National Film and Sound Archive. This year has just been entered in. We're asking you what else should be in sounds that reflect great Australian moments, Australian culture or the Australian environment.
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Speaker 3: Sam and Thebdon Let's start with you.
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Speaker 1: She were getting some terrific texts as well at the moment, Sam, good morning, Good morning guys.
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Speaker 6: What old put in there is the speech Bob Hawk made when we made the America's Cup when he called every employer a bum if the day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah so well remembered, isn't it, And such a great Australian moment.
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Speaker 1: We don't do a great trade in Australia. And like rattling off famous quotes from our leaders, except that one that's.
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Speaker 3: Right, which is a celebration of indolence. Let's go to Salisbury.
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Speaker 1: Laura, good morning, Good morning.
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Speaker 7: How are you today?
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Speaker 3: Good? Thanks, Sorry, excellent.
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Speaker 7: I'm got to say something that sticks out pretty big in my brain from the oldie days is the Adelaide ten Christmas Appeal and the phone number from that, which even in my tender use I still remember, which is two one seven one.
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, Christmas appeal.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great pick.
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Speaker 1: Well, those sorts of Christmas appeals probably.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The idea, remember, like if you talk about reflecting on the history of Australian media, and which is what this is all about, that the thing's going to be quaint for a future generation. The idea one sat around there was Christmas appeals on freeware television and you'd call in and you donate money and so forth. I'm not gonna have that in the streaming era. Laura, thank you. Let's go to Rostrevor Michael, good morning.
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Speaker 9: My suggestion is John daw and Brian daw the interviews et crist John Clark, I mean, any of the John Clark interviews is I think iconic for Australian sown brilliant.
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Speaker 1: Because they relied on the quality of the writing. They were ever doing impressions. No, it's just they could carry the joke with the quality of what was being written. And that's the degree of difficulty in that is just about impossible. Yeah, Jazzy in the Southeast.
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Speaker 10: Good morning, Good morning guys. Here you going, God, thanks Jerzy, I reckon, We've got to have.
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Speaker 4: It's a no brainer. The flute piece out of and Land down Under.
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Speaker 10: Where he plays Koko borosits in the old Country.
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Speaker 3: Well he said he didn't play Kooko Boris in the old gum tree, is what he did?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I mean that if anything's in there, that's what it has to be.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of the the title page of the National Film and Sound Archive, is it should they.
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Speaker 3: Should played at the entrance? That's excellent, Jazz you what a great suggestion.
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Speaker 1: Frankin Birkenhead. What do you think should be in the archive?
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Speaker 2: I don't know that.
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Speaker 12: What do you think?
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Speaker 3: I mean?
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Speaker 2: This said this was to do with politics. The famous speech that GoF Whitlam made against the queen.
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Speaker 3: Remember, well, may we say God save the Queen because I think we'll save the Governor General. Today will go down as Kerr's curve. That was the one.
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Speaker 2: What do you reckon?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a huge moment, isn't It has to be in there, whether you're a pro or Andy dismiss her. Well, it doesn't get any bigger than that greatest compositional crisis in the history of the country.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, I like this one. This came from a text a short time ago.
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Speaker 3: To the twenty two new Richie Benno, the great Ritchie Benno.
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Speaker 1: That's what crickets sounded like for a an entire generation.
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Speaker 3: Didn't it sound good too? Oh? Superb jeez. There's some great and varied suggestions. Jacobin Paraloui says, a crocodile bit my guts out, my head went that way, and the leagues went that way.
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Speaker 1: What happened to that kid?
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Speaker 3: Well, after he's bit with a crocodile, Mike and Nord says, do they have the sound of the old telephone dial? That's one of the most satisfying sounds. Yeah, it felt good on your fingers too, very tactile. It's almost like those fidgets that you have now to keep your kids calm, you know for the fidget spinner. Oh yeah, at a fidgity quality. The old the old telephone. Good one here from Andrew I reckon the National Tiles ad needs to be put in the National Sound Archive because everybody knows the sound of Frank Walker. If color the Reading Writing Hotline jingles in, Frank Walker needs to be in Yeah. From the World of Politics.
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Speaker 1: Frank Walker should voice all the exhibits, so you walk around each one and you're like, oh, is that the reading writing hotline? He goes hello and he tells you about it.
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Speaker 3: Brenton from the World of Politics says John Houston's gst birthday cake explanation should be in there. If that's in there, maul Maninger's radio interview needs to be Oh absolutely, you have a little politics area. Yeah, but being able to watch the installation the video of mal in the radio studio, that would be excellent.
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Speaker 1: Great moments in Australian politics. I think this was your suggestion, wasn't it, David. That's a really really really early version of it. This won't be like a demo.
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Speaker 3: Three or four.
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Speaker 1: Hoodoo gurus And this is the one that was obviously just mentioned as one of our five Double Breakfast entries into the National Film and Sound Archive. IM sorry, I resign, Do you reckon two in the year of his death, crept up on him like a librarian.
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Speaker 3: Dennis committee, Yes, something from Dennis needs to be in there. You could pick a few. We've had a Bruce suggestion, someone suggested where is it? Where is it? The Peter Peter and the Brossa said Bruce's call of Kathy Freeman winning the four hundred meters gold And our good mate Ben Jordan, who pointed out earlier that in the year of its birth nineteen seventy six, South Australia won the Sheffield Shield and this is nice symmetry fifty years on to happening again. We have to wait, well, we need to wait one more year, didn't we Yeah, that's right, but Ben Ben says the sound that he would nominate is Bruce and Dennis commentating together, and the moment would be Darren Jarmin's final goal in ninety seven, when Bruce says unbelievable Darren, while Dennis just goes WHOA.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you put the whole ninety seven Grand Final in Frequently, there's no need to be there's no need to be picky.
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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at the weather for today.
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Speaker 1: We'll keep taking your entries on and sounds that define Australia that need to be put into the National Film and Sound Archive in eight double two three double A, double A and the text line zero zero eight thirty ninety five. Right now, it's quite nice outside twenty point one degrees outside in the city, which makes us the warmest capital city in the country outside of Darwin. Heading for a top today of thirty. It's going to be a reasonably pleasant sort of a day. Tomorrow we get a change, so morning showers and then it'll get a bit warmer during the afternoon, but we might get reasonable amount of rain zero to three millimeters on the forecast. Thursday are twenty three, mostly sunny, so a bit cooler, Friday twenty three for good Friday, Saturday twenty four and sunny Sunday twenty five, and sunny and easter Monday twenty six with maybe a drizzle of rain about the place. Zero to one millimeters of rain. Now, I think that's the kind of almost perfect easter weekend forecast. You can just about do anything you like. What about mate, Andrew Killy the ad man.
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Speaker 3: He she just chexting me go. Here's the end for the National Archives. Is the final siren of the nineteen to seventy eight s ANFL Grand Final. Well, there you go, Twitch, I've replied. Know the sound should be Dez Foster's whistle, heralding the infamy that.
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Speaker 1: Follows never going to resolve this week, ready's in the studio. It's a natural segue to sports. Has been a few great sporting sounds that have been nominated already This morning, good morning? Do you tell you good morning?
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Speaker 3: Will morning? David? Yes?
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Speaker 13: And another one yesterday and that's because the sheffiud Chill title wrapped up.
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Speaker 14: I said it was probably fifty to fifty. Well, let's have a listen to how the Sack has got it done against.
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Speaker 13: Victoria South Australia, back to back Sheffield Shield champions.
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Speaker 3: Last year they broke the drown at home.
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Speaker 1: There they come and do it again in.
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Speaker 15: Enemy territory in one of the most remarkable Shield wins in years.
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Speaker 14: Ah yeah there thanks to Fox Sports Adam White, the call of their great call.
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Speaker 3: Really good. Yeah.
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Speaker 13: So fifty six run win, first time ever back to back for South Australia. The comp's been going since eighteen ninety, so it's one hundred and thirty eight years, fourteenth title. I reckon it is for essay. How good is a you know quite well a little bit yeah, and he's a massive double A fan, so yeah, exactly. But he's playing the best cricket of his life. I think right now he's but.
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Speaker 3: He's got he's got us us out of trouble, he's got Australia out of trouble. Like he's such an important, huge.
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Speaker 13: I think he's probably the best batter to watch technically, like he's got a very quiet technique, he's got beautiful hands as a gloveman, he's got a fantastic temperament. And you're right, he's making big runs like important runs, and he just looks so elegant.
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Speaker 14: At the crease.
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Speaker 3: His summer was so good, amazing watching him stand up at the stumps against pace.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it was so impress And then you know, a shield one hundred this year but also season the drought breaking Shield final win that we had, he made a hundred there not made of the match. I think Nathan McAndrew deserved that six wickets and he made the sixty which was the big partnership with carry, but Alex Cary would have got the two votes if.
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Speaker 14: You're doing a three to one.
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Speaker 13: And I think Liam Scott, who I mentioned to Sammy and Ned a little bit earlier, I think he's the most improved cricketer and I think right now a better all rounder option than Cam Green.
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Speaker 14: I think he's ahead of him. He's playing such You.
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Speaker 1: Wonder when any of these books might get rewarded for the dominance at Shield level with the test A periods.
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Speaker 3: Do we talk about Ryan Harris enough ready?
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Speaker 14: Probably not?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could if you're five years ago, he said. The backs went back to about I'd say will win in twenty Is there a nuclear ward? What's happened to the world? How is this even physically possible? Yeah, it's Unfathoma award. He's done the squad.
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Speaker 14: It's unbelievable. Isn't that One day title last season as well?
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Speaker 3: Of course?
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Speaker 13: And the shield's the big one, and he's gone back to back and it's off the back of the bowling and you know, keeping a really sort of simple mantra. But they've had their set this season. They had a lot of injuries early and they were able to withstand that and then do what they've done. Incredible, So I just hope they've done it now. And it's amazing, isn't it. Once you win one, how the shackles are then off and you can win another one. But hopefully the thirty six is can follow suit tomorrow night, and hasn't Everything's sort of blown up there in the last.
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Speaker 3: To be ugly.
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Speaker 1: It's a shame because the talking point should be what's happening on the court. Yeah, because there's a great rivalry going on between two of the best players we've had in the MBL At the moment, it's just absolutely you can't take your eyes off it. We deserve a game five, I reckon.
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Speaker 14: I think so too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you get the game five and anything can happen. Are deciding one off game that Sixers just need to take care of it at home. And I know the Kings have looked unbeatable over there, but it's elimination games. Funny things happen big time the snow tomorrow exactly, So tomorrow night Game four, that Place Entertainment Center will be absolutely rocking.
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Speaker 14: Get down there, folks, if you haven't got a ticket, already good.
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Speaker 1: On your reading.
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Speaker 3: Thanks boys, Thanks.
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Speaker 6: Love the passion that comes out of five double A covering everything here you know, support wives in South Australia.
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Speaker 5: Five double A Breakfast David ben Berby and Will Goodings.
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Speaker 1: There is the Great Alex Carey recorded a birthday message for five double as fifty years and fifty years from the nineteen seventy six Shield title. He is delivered two for his home state in the last two years. He'll be on the program before at nine o'clock today. Let's take a call. Burry Oldinger is on the line. Morning to you.
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Speaker 2: Barry one guy a checking petrol spy last night or two dollars thirty nine got because I'll work at shido So you're thirty eight at the mobile on Commercial Road at Shidow Park. A bonus.
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Speaker 3: So it had already come down since the announcement by the FEDS about the excise being had it Barry.
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Speaker 2: Must have, mate, Yeah, it must have.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because that was I heard Jim Chalmers yesterday. We're going to be getting into the story lad and we'll we'll have the premiere on after eight o'clock. But they were saying about twenty cents a leader so that's that's a bit of money back in you in your skyrocket.
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Speaker 2: Oh my, okay's bloody good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah mate.
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Speaker 2: You might know me from drake Up Yours pinbo Ah.
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Speaker 3: You came up and gave me the up yours when I was queuing up there at Drake's only a few months ago.
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Speaker 1: I think we can take that as an entry for the National Film and Sounder Art. I think the Up Yours Pembo at the at the AEU rally should make it. The petrol price hasn't come down generally speaking, so I think Barry just got a terrific price where he went around the city. Right now in a suburbs, two fifty nine point nine is what you're paying. Intriguingly, sky News this morning quoted some data from fuel prices Australia and had the average price in each state, so it was statewide and include regional areas as well. South Australia had the most expensive unleaded petrol in the country. Now Deezer wasn't the most expensive, but our average unleaded was over two dollars sixty was the only place that it was over two sixty on average.
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Speaker 3: So we'll ask the premier that later. Is that great question true? And why are we the most experienced? Yeah, that's weird. Well, and it's weird that we wouldn't then be for diesel. Can I just say, surely if the government has announced yesterday, does it take effect immediately the removal of excise or the reduction in excise, because if it does, there's no excuse for everybody not knowing their price.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it is necessarily straight away. We'll have to pass parliament.
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Speaker 3: Not sure. We'll check the film.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll later on talk about a little bit later, but I don't see there's no evidence that it's happened, at least about the patrol of the retail patrol price this morning, well any day now. The Artemis Mission, one of the Artemis missions planning to return human beings to the Moon, will take off, this one going to the Moon or be people, not setting foot on it, but in the process traveling further than anyone in human history has before the furthest from Earth anyone has ever traveled before. Interestingly, there's an Australian element to this mission, providing some support on the ground in a way that is very much of its time. Radio waves David. I don't know if we're going to be doing ourselves out of a job talking about this, but they're a little bit old fashioned, certainly when you need to upload big packets of data to space. Now, they might be old fashioned, but people still like them. Correct, that's nothing wrong with that, mind you.
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Speaker 3: Cut.
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Speaker 1: We don't yet have lasers that distribute our program to people's homes, but NASA does and it's all thanks to Australian technology. Lasers beaming larger packets information to people that are on the mission, laser beams, laser beams. I don't know how it works, but our ex guest certainly does. Dr Kate Ferguson from the A and News Institute for Space. Doctor Ferguson, good morning to you.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, So doctor Ferguson, tell us about the mission. What's actually going to happen, What are they going to be doing and when Will just said they're going to go further than anyone's ever gone. How far are they going to? Where are they going?
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Speaker 16: So they're going about four hundred thousand kilometers away, so trying to go just a little bit further than where humans went during the Apollo era and doing this fly by of the Moon, so it'll be a ten day mission where there's astronauts fly around the Moon. There's a few main goals for this mission. So this is the first is the first time that humans have gone to the Moon in over fifty years, and they're really testing out the spacecraft system on this Orian vehicle, so this will be the first crude flight of the vehicle. And there's a lot of I guess scientific goals for the mission as well. So they have fifteen cameras on the outside, we'll be looking at the Moon, being able to identify future landing sites and other sites of scientific interest. That all really paved the way for the rest of the Artist program.
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Speaker 1: Tell us what the Quantum Optical ground station in camera's role will be. It's a terrific title.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, So there's all of these intruments are going to generate a lot of data, and as you said, getting a large volume of data back to Earth is quite challenging, especially if you get further away from Earth, communication becomes more difficult. So what NASA has done is they've put a laser communication terminal on board the oryan spacecraft, so using lasers to communicate instead of radio waves and this is really sort of a game change is for communication technology that allows data rates tens to one hundred times faster than what you can do with radio communications. And what the technology aims to do is sort of takes the grainy photos from the nineteen sixties and change that to high definition video coming.
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Speaker 3: From places like the moon, so touching up the old footage.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, So im us role is as the we're a test ground station, so we have our quantum optical ground stations here in Canberra at the Mounts from Observatory and this is effectively a large telescope with a lot of common sex instruments on the back end that will be transmitting and receiving laser signals from the Obryan capsule.
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Speaker 3: Is that almost like in the movie The Dish.
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Speaker 16: Similar except instead of a big radio antenna, we have a smaller telescope because you don't need it to be quite as large to communicate over the distance.
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Speaker 3: Communic is the expectation, doctor Ferguson.
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Speaker 1: Then we're going to start seeing some of this spectacular imagery after this mission or will the public release of these sorts of things wait until the final Artemis mission that sees people actually land on the Moon.
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Speaker 16: Do you think hopefully there will be some exciting footage that'll be publicly released coming out of this mission?
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Speaker 3: Wow?
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Speaker 16: And it could be received here in Australia.
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Speaker 3: Just finally, doctor Ferguson, does the rocket use petrol? And if so, how much does it cost to fill it out?
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Speaker 16: It doesn't use petrol, but if it did, it would be very expensive to fill up. At the moment.
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Speaker 3: Hey, this is a great thing and that was a great interview. Good on your doctor Ferguson. Cape Ferguson from the the director Rata Assaysic director of the a and New Institute for Space.
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Speaker 1: So those really spectacular shots of Neil Armstrong and those those the Earth and the background, you know, the first imagery of Earth from a foreign body. That's going to get an update. We're going to see it in high dev that's been very unbelievable. Potentially the next ten days. What sort of experiment would you do on the Moon? Do you think, Uh, what are the idea they're going to try to find new landing site? Well, I mean this is all, this is all laying the groundwork to build permanent human structures on the Moon.
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Speaker 3: Does my head in because of the housing crisis. We were thinking about Roseworthy. Yeah, and we had a bit of a look down at sea for May days. But in the end we decided that the Sea of Tranquility was offering just I mean, the commute a bit more expensive, but the block size is just beyond anything you can get on Earth.
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Speaker 1: Well, if somebody want to see change, someone's want a tree change. You just want to have a moon change, see trend of tranquility change. Let's say to the weather Bureau and talk about the weather here on Earth. Simon Timkey is on the line, Simon, do you reckon? We gona get many more thirty degree days like we've got forecasts.
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Speaker 12: Today morning morning, David, Well, start to get a bit harder once we get through eightpril to get quite such high temperatures. So if you like the warmer days, so you want to make the most of today. I think plenty of sunshine around too.
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Speaker 15: Looking at the.
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Speaker 12: Satellite picture, there's a little bit of patchy high cloud just to the west and the south, but clear over the Adelaide area right now. So plenty of sunshine today. The winds from the north and probably a little bit windier than yesterday, and temperature wise, as you said, expecting thirty degrees. We had an oven minimum of eighteen point three at about quarter past three this morning, currently in the city sitting on twenty point two. With that slightly warmer weather and lightly windier conditions as well, it has been enough to push the fire danger into extreme over the Mount Lofty Ranges. So there is a fire weather warning out for today and the CFS have issued a total fireband for the Mount Lofty Rangers District. Temperatures around the suburbs expecting thirty one for Elizabeth today, twenty eight for Glenelgren, no longer thirty degrees for Mount Barker today. There is a cold front moving across the west of the state today and that'll move across the Adelaide area during the early hours of Wednesday morning, so we're likely to see some showers about during the early morning. I think by early afternoon they will have cleared away to the east and we'll see a mostly sunnay afternoon for Wednesday. We'll see a bit of a drop in temperature with that front moving across, down to seventeen overnight in a maximum for Wednesday twenty four degrees, then staying in the mid twenties through the later part of the week and into the weekend. For Thursday are mostly Sunday Day twenty three Friday, slight charts of a shower about the hills and the southern suburbs as another cold front just sort of clips how far southern coasts, but over the Adelaide plans should be dry. I think on Friday twenty three, the maximum for Friday, Saturday, Sunday and twenty four Sunday Sunday at first and twenty five, I think we might see a bit of cloud developed later in the afternoon, maybe the slight chance of a shower late afternoon and evening, and the slight chance of a shower again about the place on Monday and twenty six degrees, but certainly warmer stay up the next week.
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Speaker 3: Today, guys, good stuff, Simon, thanks for that nice mild easter weekend coming up, Simon, Timkey from the weather Bureau.
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Speaker 1: I said to say, Poulsen, he comes to Daniel. Lazaxson's on the line. Daniel, there's been a car roll over at Malvin.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's right. Emergency services were called only Road Melvin just after eight thirty last night after reports of a crash where a car had ended up on its roof after striking a parked car. The driver, a twenty six year old hall Atkoe woman, sustained money injuries and was taken to hospital by ambulance. Both vehicles were towed from the scene and she's going to be receiving an expiation in the mail.
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Speaker 1: Bit of explaining to do there.
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Speaker 3: Daniel also a suspicious fire at door Park overnight.
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Speaker 17: Yeah.
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Speaker 15: Just after midnight this morning, police in MFS crews were called to a fire in a carpoor on Rockville Avenue. The blaze was extinguished by fire crews. However, damage had been caused to items stored in the area. Police suspect the fire was deliberately lit and ask if anyone's seen anything suspicious around the area around that time, give us call on crime stoff as one one hundred triple three trippul Zeria or report online.
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Speaker 3: And just lastly, Daniel, a man's been arrested at lobethal Yeah about.
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Speaker 15: One am today. Police eventually services responded to reports of an assault. Police were quickly on scene, locating the victim, a thirty one year old woman from the address. The victim was treated at the scene by SA Ambulance for non life threatening injuries. And a thirty eight year old man was arrested with our incident and will face numerous charges including assault. His bail has been refused and he's expected to appear in court later on today. We just wish to advise the public that both the suspect and victim are known to each other, so you know it's not a random incident.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good work, Daniel, Senior Constable Daniel Isaacson from Sapole, Thanks for that. Thanks to Ben Jordan too, our resident stats. Me and Ben. We're chatting on air, Will and I trying to work out exactly when the fuel excise reduction would kick in. Ben said it officially passed Parliament yesterday and starts dropping from tomorrow. So as our producer Patrick calling it.
00:32:33
Speaker 1: April Fuel's Day, Yes, he's pretty happy with that one too.
00:32:38
Speaker 3: So we get the savings tomorrow, When do we get the when do we get the interest rate increase?
00:32:44
Speaker 1: Yes, the gold saying the government giveth and the RBA taketh away.
00:32:50
Speaker 3: That's right. It feels a lot.
00:32:51
Speaker 1: We're on the track for that from the Bible, isn't it. I think this is terrible policy. Frankly, we might talk about it a little bit later. The way it's currently constructed, the cut to the excise, for what it's going to cost and what it's going to achieve, and the absence of any balancing saving.
00:33:07
Speaker 3: Measure, it's it's it's more money out of the budget. Does it make it more likely that there's going to be some sort of new tax or tax increase or change to property affluent property owners or something in the budget to cover things like this.
00:33:26
Speaker 1: Well, I think I can think of one really obvious thing. In fact, we might talk about it after we did very quickly after the break since we've gone there, we'll just check. We'll check traffic first though, and come back with more in a moment.
00:33:37
Speaker 5: Deep Van Burby and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
00:33:42
Speaker 1: Five minutes, so we're going to talk art and just in a moment. We started a conversation before the breakdown about the fuel excise. So it comes in tomorrow. Twenty six point three cents a leter will come off the retail price of petrol at a cost of two point five to five billion dollars to the budget. They're also getting rid of the heavy vehicle ro user charge, So I to think is the stronger element of the policy, because that's the one that applies specifically to trucks, not just absolutely everyone with a car. Then there'll be an increase that will be foregone in the budget. That's another five point three million dollars that will be lost to revenue. There will be at that one I think makes more sense. Here's my issue very quickly with it. One is the potential for it to be inflationary. Like all the COVID measures we had that were all well intentioned, the bill came. You always have to pay the piper and inflation setting for something of an increase of well, it'll be up over five percent. It diminishes a price signal at a time where we actually literally have as part of this four step plan, A planned to not run out of petrol. Well, the increased price was making everyone moderate how they much petrol they were using. If you artificially diminish that, people will not change their behaviors. So beauty response. So you beauty response, And it costs the budget billions of dollars without an offset, And I reckon there's a really easy and obvious offset to this. The fringe benefits tax on electric vehicles. I've got no problem with electric vehicles. I've been looking at myself because in this current environment they suddenly make a lot of sense. But that's the point. You don't need to artificially incentivize the take up of electric vehicles when you've got unleaded nearly three dollars a liter. So we could offset these cost of living things by getting rid of the incentive to go ev because the market now has a price that incentive to go ev. Do you know what the cost of that policy is? The Parliamentary budget offers estimates that scrapping the fringe benefits tax for electric vehicles would improve the budget by twenty three billion dollars over the next decade. Wow, that is the editor will pay for this. That would pay for this this year. Yeah, in its first instance, I think that makes sense. Absolutely love this next story, So we mentioned all Dinger again. Down at Aldinger there's an artist by the name of Karla Grace who's a.
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Speaker 3: Self taught artist. She's picked up the brushes herself and shown quite an aptitude for it, where she's done this amazing painting of a pride of six lines. There's a great piece by Paul Ashen in the Ties about it yesterday. Now this this amazing painting. Check it out online, folks. It's absolutely superb. It's going to be exhibited at Southby's in New York in July and then auctioned off with the money raised for a foundation to save Africa's declining line population. We have Karla on the line now, Carla, thank you for joining us. We've got a picture. We've got your painting up on our live stream now so that our listeners can look at it if they're watching along on YouTube. It's such a beautiful painting.
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Speaker 10: Oh thank you.
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Speaker 3: So what's your link to South Africa or to Africa?
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Speaker 10: Oh well, I was actually born in South Africa and spent a lot of my childhood in Southern Africa, where basically wildlife was part of my everyday life. So yeah, very much part of everything that I had growing up.
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Speaker 3: Position of the painting is extraordinary describing it for people who are who haven't seen it, it almost looks like you're standing over the lines. How did the images sort of come to be?
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Speaker 10: Well, I actually went to South Africa with to meet Kevin Richardson and those lions in particular, and I spent a week with them, walking around with them with a drone and taking photos of them, and by the end of it, I had a host of photographs that I ended up stitching together to create this aerial perspective of these lines, because I mean, how many times can you paint a lion and say, oh, this one is unique? So I was keen to paint something that had never really been done before when it comes to lions, and there we have a composition of three that are really looking at you, and the other three are kind of engaged in their normal behavior according to their personality, and it just captures that group of lions in a very unique way.
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Speaker 3: It's quite a mesmerizing image. You look at it and you feel like the lines it's almost like the main Lisa's eyes, so they're looking.
00:38:09
Speaker 1: How long does it take to paint something like that color?
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Speaker 10: Well, that one took me about three months of the actual painting itself.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: Wow, it just it looks like a photograph. I've got to say, it's just one of the most spectacular things I've seen. Unbelievable much.
00:38:25
Speaker 3: How do you go from South Africa to aldinga beach? What a great journey.
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Speaker 10: Yes, I have moved quite a few times. It is an incredible story and I think we need quite a lot of time to cover it. Basically, I ended up living in Perth and I met my husband and he was in the Army at the time. We bounced around Australia, but he is originally from Udinga and we ended up moving back here. He got out the army and now we are living in our home and I've got my studio here and he now works with me. So full circle and it's a nice little family business.
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Speaker 3: I might bump in at the surf Club over the weekend. We're going to place down there and I'm going to retire there. So it's my favorite part of Adelaide. Carla, great having you on the show and good luck with the auction. What a beautiful piece of work that is.
00:39:14
Speaker 1: Calor is the top seven before seven seven before seven South Australians at their best in Victoria number seven the Premier Peter Maylelanowskas with Katie Perry at the twenty twenty four AFL Grand Final in sixth spot. Cory Enwright in the two thousand and seven Grand Final. Of course, for the Cats, the two twenty nine touches, the nineteen ninety six Australian Grand Prix and the fourth spot Paul Kelly live at the Continental on the Esplanade in ninety six number three Makaibe Devera three Melbourne Cup wins number two, The Sackers win the twenty twenty five twenty twenty six Sheffield Chield and in the number one spot Andrew Jarman in the nineteen ninety seven Grand Final. We Love Your Father.
00:39:59
Speaker 5: Team been Keen Burd and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
00:40:07
Speaker 1: Night after see every good morning to you. Welcome to Tuesday. The thirty first of March is still dark outside. That's all going to change, of course, come this weekend. Our technicians are currently working on the app. We've had some reports on the text line about the app not working particularly well, so our text are working at the moment. Also working on my brain, I said Andrew Jarman before the break when talking about my favorite crow of all time, Darren Jarman, I love Burgundy moment. Let's not top anyone else in I'm going to wear it. I'm the one who read it out.
00:40:39
Speaker 3: It's very rare that you make a football era that even I pick up on because my football knowledge is one percent of what yours did.
00:40:46
Speaker 1: It's about my favorite footballer ever as well, there you go.
00:40:49
Speaker 3: I need e Jarmin de Jarmin are your favorite of all time? Absolutely really yeah, without a doubt, I need more coffee. That's this year, Phil sixteen.
00:40:58
Speaker 1: Now coming up this hour on the program when it's libraries, We're doing a series of interviews in the leadup to Eastern things that won't break the bank, that you can get along and enjoy in the community for free or for almost no cost. So I'm going to talk with the State Library soci director very shortly. We've had having a lot of fun in the first hour with additions to the National Film and Sound Archive, the curator Simon Smith is slated to come on and Phil Curry fuel excise big talking point on the text line this morning. The Cup will come in to play tomorrow on the show and Phil Curry will explain all the ins and outs politically for us after seven thirty.
00:41:33
Speaker 3: Well, it was only five minutes before the end of our program yesterday when news came out of Victoria an unconfirmed, unnamed man had been shot dead in rural Victoria. Well, immediately everybody's thoughts were could it be Desi Freeman, And within minutes it was confirmed by the Victorian police that it indeed was. Cassie Zervos is the seven News chief crime reporter and she's in Followed Along, which is near Aubrey where freedman cow that he was murderer of two police tried yet again to kill another one believed to be using the very pistol that he stole off one of the slain offices seven months ago, after which he lived in the bush in Victoria. Cassie, such a remarkable story and you know the end that this guy deserved and almost seemed to be dreaming of. Yeah.
00:42:29
Speaker 18: Absolutely, good morning, and it was a huge twenty four hours.
00:42:32
Speaker 10: I can imagine this man has been.
00:42:35
Speaker 18: Hiding for the past seven months, two hundred and sixteen days on the run, and as you say, it ended the way it started in a bloody shootout. We understand that plays there this morning investigating whether he fired shots at police first or threatened them with the firearm to lure him out of that makeshift container ship. Camp sied that we saw a vision of yesterday. They actually had to use a tear gas capsicum spray because he wasn't cooperating. It ended up being a three hour tent standoff between Freeman and the heavily armed officers on the ground there. But eventually he did emerge. He was wrapped in a blanket and he was holding a police firearm that belonged to Neil Thompson and he was one of the police officers who was fatally shot in August last year, and that gun was still loaded and no doubt Desi Freeman was still very much prepared to use it. So of course our force was going to take no chances, and that's when they decided to fire that fatal round of bullets, killing Freeman dead.
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Speaker 3: We're just playing some of the aerial footage of the property where he was found by the police. Cassie. There's still a lot of un answered questions about this, aren't they. Like One thing that really strikes me is when you look at that completely ramshekel camp site. Outside of his shipping container, there's like a shade cloth, there's some sort of rudimentary sort of ol fresco area. Why are there two chairs there? Bo'sy's friend.
00:44:11
Speaker 18: Well, that's exactly right, isn't it. And it doesn't look like a setup that's just been put there in the past couple of days, does it. It looks like he's been there, he settled in for some time. And as you say, there's two camshares, who is he sitting outside with? Quite brazen in fact, I mean the property is huge. It's a huge property. If you're driving past, you wouldn't be able to see anyone from the road. But with that said, he was obviously sitting outside during the days or at some point there was cooking utensils. There was pods and pans, a veranda type, you know, to protect himself from the sun. It was just a bizarre setup in itself. But the owner of the property, he actually has been living in Tasmania for the past few months and we spoke to a relative of his and he's come out and of course it said, look, we've got no connection to this man whatsoever. We are as shocked as the rest of the nation is that he was found here and have denied any allegations that there is a connection at all or that the owner had been helping Desi Freeman. When we put that question to our Chief Commissioner Mike Bush yesterday, he said, look, we haven't had a chance to speak to the owner of the property yet, But that's not unusual. There's nothing to read into. It's just because we've had so many moving parts on the ground here yesterday, which is completely understandable given what unfolded in such a volatile situation. And you know, we put the question to Mike Bush, did Desi Freeman fire at police officers? And he said, look, we need to speak to our members. It all happened very very quickly. Once the tear gust was thrown in and he emerged, everything went down within seconds. So the main thing is no police officers were injured or killed yesterday. Given what happened in August last year, we know that Desi Freeman would absolutely open fire.
00:45:56
Speaker 3: He wouldn't care, He wouldn't.
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Speaker 14: Care, so.
00:46:01
Speaker 1: He certainly afore went the benefit of the doubt on that kind of front. Cassie, in your extraordinary story on seven last night, with those pictures, you mentioned the dispersal.
00:46:10
Speaker 3: Of tear gas.
00:46:11
Speaker 1: What role did that police vehicle play that looked like it bored a hole in the side of his shipping container on a long telescopic sort of arm piece of equipment. I must say I've never seen before it's.
00:46:25
Speaker 18: Called a claw and they just on the bear cat. So the bear Cats are operated by the Special Operations Group, which is our most elite squad in Syria, and it's to pierce through any possible material like steel to get in and it's a safe way for officers to lure a suspect out or essentially smoke bomb someone out. So what they've done is they've been able to pierce through that container ship, throw in the tear gas, the capsic and spray and I'm not sure perhaps to come spray in your eyes or down your throat, but it's incredibly hard to see and breathe. So that's that's forced him to come out for fresh air, wrapped the dona and from there his senses have been thrown off, so he hasn't been able to see properly, he can't breathe properly, and the police have been able to have the upper hand in that situation. But once he dropped the Doner, he did show that he was holding that fire up fist.
00:47:13
Speaker 10: Officers saw that.
00:47:14
Speaker 18: It's not like he came up and came out and surrendered with his hands up and said I'm not holding a weapon and I'm going to cooperate with you. It was the complete opposite. So that's when officers opened fire and shot shot the fugitive dead.
00:47:27
Speaker 3: Amazing report. Cassie Cassi Zervos in solog along for seven years. Is there some weird underground network of people that helped him? Well?
00:47:37
Speaker 1: There, I mean there has to be, doesn't there. Yeah, you would think so. It just happened upon a shipping container in the middle of nowhere.
00:47:45
Speaker 3: No, yeah, exactly. And the fact that the guy who owns the property isn't There were other people there, and you can't unless he's squatting. How do you just turn up at someone's property and live there. We don't know how long he was living there for, but as Cassie said, he looked pretty established, like you looked like he'd settled in on that property.
00:48:03
Speaker 1: I mean, you always hesitate to presume the severity of sentences in Australia, but I would imagine aiding and abetting someone who's killed police would carry a pretty hefty jail center and Rile yeah should do.
00:48:14
Speaker 12: So.
00:48:14
Speaker 1: There's probably a lot more to come on that story. A little more to come on a story we got into just after six o'clock this morning. Had a lot of fun in the first hour with our listeners coming up with culturally significant sounds from Australia's history, be they from the world of politics, from music, obviously, entertainment, even advertising. We do so because overnight the National Film and Sound Archive added nine new sounds to the archive celebrating Australia's history. The criteria being they have to have been of cultural significance or tell a story about Australia in the environment, and they have to be ten years old or more. Simon Smith from the National Film and Sound Archive is on the line.
00:48:54
Speaker 19: Morning to you, Simon, Morning David and Will how are you going?
00:48:57
Speaker 3: We're good, Thank you Simon. Now do you guys us take requests because we've had we've had so many suggestions from our listeners since we started talking about this just after six o'clock.
00:49:08
Speaker 20: Well, look, we do.
00:49:09
Speaker 19: We love to hear from the public about nominations. Unfortunately, nominations aren't open for next year's one, but well we'll let you know when they are. But the great thing about Sounds of Australia, guys, is that it is a collection of sounds that are nominated by industry experts, but also by the public. So if you've got a great suggestion, then please do let us know and it'll be in the mixed for possible inclusion in the future.
00:49:34
Speaker 3: We've had we've had a lot of suggestions from the world of sport moments in commentary Richie Beno, but we said that there might be people suggesting things that are already there. Do you have any Richie Beno commentary in the in the National Film and Sound.
00:49:48
Speaker 19: Archives, Well, we definitely do have it in the archive that it hasn't necessarily been added to the Sounds of Australia as part of our registry of the most important signific recordings. Not that it isn't because of course Richie is an icon, and we do have other sporting commentary in the Sounds of Australia. I know we've got Norman May's Gold Gold Gold for Australia and Ron Casey's boxing commentary with Lionel Rose.
00:50:17
Speaker 3: Might have video of Donald Bradman hitting a golf ball against a rainwater tank, mightn't.
00:50:23
Speaker 19: You, Absolutely, yes, yeah, we've got all of that in the collection. I mean, the collection is quite ridiculous. It spans you know, more than one hundred and thirty years and it includes everything you've mentioned there, So yes, we do have those things in the collection, and yeah you can if in fact we've got I should mention we've got a new website, so if you get a chance, if people are interested to go to our website, there's over five five hundred media items that you can peruse there. And someone told me that it's like eighteen years worth of viewing, which I think is probably a bit better for this show.
00:50:56
Speaker 1: So, I mean, not wanting to sound like a biased member of an audio majority industry, but how can there be a temptation in this modern era to think, well, national film and Sound archive. The film component of that is, you know, given what can be communicated through a visual medium, the dominant component of it. Albeit this, this, this experiment in catalog and curating a list of sounds would suggest sort of runs counter to the modern technology. What do you think sounds specifically are important to catalog?
00:51:31
Speaker 19: I think it sounds sounds absolutely important to our collection and to our our you know, our cultural longing. Really, I mean it's it sounds really resonate with people, whether it's music or speeches or jingles, they you know, you've got your earworms and things like that which take you back to a particular time in your life. And I think that you know, nostalgia isn't just based upon looking at things, it's also listening to things. And I'm sure you would both have situations with music you've heard something that instantly takes you back to a certain time. So audio is extremely important. And yeah, as you've said, you know we are the Film and Sound Archive, and I should add we also have enormous amounts of television and radio as well, although that's not sort of self evident from our title, but yes, we do have enormous collections of audio at the National Film and Sound Archives.
00:52:21
Speaker 3: Given camera, aren't you around on near the lake by the Canberra Zoo? Is that right? Simon?
00:52:28
Speaker 19: Look, I must admit I work out of our Melbourne office, so I'm calling from Melbourne. But yes, we do have our headquarters in Canberra. And it's a lovely old building. It was the former Institute of Anatomy building, which at one point housed far Lapse Heart and of course these days is the has been the headquarters of the NFSA since nineteen eighty four, so yeah, it's a really lovely, lovely building there and if people are up there, they should definitely go and visit.
00:52:54
Speaker 3: Good stuff. Simon Smith, that was an really interesting chat the curator of the National Film and Sound. I can't believe you've never been the camera Will the other never been to Cambra. Camera is well worth a visit. I'd love to go. There'd be so I love you would love the war memorial absolutely.
00:53:12
Speaker 1: Without it's on my list something I've yeah, it's just superb. I desperately want to do it. The National Library. I had a total nerdling a moment. I still get teased about the home. I started crying at the National Library reading the letter that that John Wills wrote to his father as in Burke and Wills Fame, when he knew he was going to die when he was in I've got the original letter.
00:53:34
Speaker 3: Wow, and there's there's words in it something about I know the end is I'm doing it for memory. But there's this great one where says I'm I'm honored to have seen so much of this extraordinary continent. So he's at peace with his death writing to his dad. It's incredible.
00:53:51
Speaker 1: I know how their story ended, but how did the letter get found. Was there research party or was there other exploration?
00:53:56
Speaker 15: Was it?
00:53:57
Speaker 12: Well?
00:53:57
Speaker 3: Didn't they put the message in the dig tree and then keep going? And then when the search party turned up to find them, the fire was still warm, but they couldn't find them. And then they wandered off and ended up starving death not long after that, eating that what's it called nado? That vegetable that grows in marshy water, that's got no nutritional value. But I think it was left. It was left at the dictory possession. That's extraordinary. Now that got the ladder.
00:54:27
Speaker 1: I didn't need any more convincing, but somehow you provided it.
00:54:32
Speaker 3: Are we going to stand here all morning watching Dad choke up looking at a piece of paper?
00:54:40
Speaker 1: Clark Griswold, you're a paper man and it's the original piece of paper.
00:54:47
Speaker 5: Five double a breakfast deep in Pemberthy and Will Goodings.
00:54:55
Speaker 1: Well, before David was bursting into tears in the National Library, he was still state libraries here in South Australia. As we yesterday got into a conversation at a time when things are tight. Frankly, we've spoken about the inflation challenges. We'll talk more about the fuel eg size cut that comes into effect tomorrow, but all necessitated because of the cost of everything. At the moment, there are fun things you can do and spend nothing or very little. You had the experience of going to the library the other day with the family.
00:55:28
Speaker 3: West Tyron's Library popped in there some stuff that had to print out, and when I was in there, we should year, since I've stepped foot in the library, why why is that? The kids had a great time. I reactivated macard because I hadn't gone in for three years. We borrowed some books, but it was just a really nice, serene environment. And we're thinking at the moment people are trying to work out sound can I even afford to drive up to the hills for the weekend? Yeah, you know, given how tight we're all doing it financially. Just worth shining a light on some of the free activities that we've got our disposal. Handley Erasmus is the Associate director of the State Library of South Australia. Hanley, and we've all forgotten about the libraries, haven't we? All those of us who have need to be reminded about them because they're absolutely sensational.
00:56:15
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely absolutely. I think talking about libraries is pretty much one of South Australia's bestry experiences, to be honest, because libraries are very known to be welcoming, safe and open spaces to everyone. So in libraries you can walking stay as long as you like and genuinely not spend to send. Yeah, and you know why, I think our communities already know that because we see about ten million visitors over one hundreds and thirty locations visiting our libraries across the state. And if you think about it's really more than the total annual say attendance at Australians Rules for matches and Adelaida Minatazoos together. So I think our communities know very well the value they get from our libraries, to be honest.
00:57:19
Speaker 3: Well, I mentioned it was West Horren's Council Library that I went to. It was probably at two thirty last Saturday afternoon when I walked in but into one of our listeners, Stacey from Richmond. She was there with a couple of women who she knew from the neighborhood and they were knitting together in the foyer and I just thought, what a nice community vibe this place has got. It's like a it's a meeting place as well, isn't it.
00:57:41
Speaker 4: Oh, it's absolutely is. It's where everyone belongs. Where there's family, students or job seekers, older people, doesn't matter. It's really a great day out for many and provice really supports when life is busy or when our budgets are getting time. I think libraries are one of the few trusted civic spaces still available to anyone. Their places for learning and connection. They provide creativity, opportunities, belonging, and they really very trusted and well used community services, delivering even more value at a time when people need it most.
00:58:30
Speaker 3: Yeah no, well said, well, I think we should all do what I didn't have a bit of a revisit because it was a great habit. As a kid, we used to go into the Kintore Avenue the main library and borrow books and used to borrow tapes. I remember borrowing a Derek and Clive tape. Oh boy, we can absolutely stum that they even had it there. But thanks for coming on, Hanley, great chat and get into your local library.
00:58:55
Speaker 1: Right on seven thirty. Fil curry shortly our trial by during in the next half hour and what ab ourt listeners is called with a very helpful warning about a scam doing the rounds. That's all next.
00:59:06
Speaker 5: Deevid Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
00:59:17
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes to light try by jury coming up at a moment. Phil Curry not too far away either. We've talkedn libraries before the break. Got handed a bit a tidbit of useful motion. People down south the nor Lounger Library have a new media conversion station, so you can take your old VHS tapes or your family happy snaps and whatever old fashioned medium they're on and you can transfer it to something digital. So they're doing that in all longer at the moment, so many texts from listeners talking about the great things that they do at their local library and how happy they are to have one available near them. The other thing that we got during that news break that is certainly of interest was a call from one of our listeners, Tony Tony, to warn people. He received an email from hot dock, which is a website that many of our listeners we're familiar with. You use to book appointments with your doctor. Yeah, yeah, very well regarded. It's a totally legitimate service. He got an email from hot dock saying you need to update your details. He had a closer look at where the sender the sender's email address, and it turned out it was not hot dock at all. It was some nefarious type online and he said it looked incredibly professional and Schmick. People need to be aware of the fact that that one is a scam. So just double check the sender at all times. Is horribly creative shunks out there. I got a text the other day and said, Hi, Dad, just letting you know I've updated my phone detail.
01:00:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you ever heard of that one? Yeah, that's a common one. So I texted safe and said, so just triple checking this is total bs IS and it. She goes, yeah, but who sits around dreaming this stuff up? Hey, I just want to quickly before we get to fill read this one out about libraries, Sarah says, guys, speaking of libraries, Modbury's Special School is currently building a library for our beautiful students because we currently do not have one. We're looking for donations of good, clean, quality junior books and picture books, early learning, young adult fiction, sens very friendly interactive. Any donations can be dropped off to Modbury's Special School. Nine Dampier Avenue, Hope Valley. Thank you for that, Sarah.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's head to Canberra. A lot's going on in the world. We've got an inflation crisis in the offing, we've got fuel prices through the roof, we've got the potential of fuel shortages. We've got all sorts of big questions to answer in the budget. We're all going through it in a way that's very difficult at the moment. Phil Curry's going through it too, with the added problem that he's a carlt and support Morning Film.
01:01:50
Speaker 4: See that.
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Speaker 21: Yeah, the only thing, the only thing was to know what happened on Sunday is was that we thought expected it. I catched it halfway through the second quarter. He's a de supporter and I said, you're going to roll us and I've been in lunch at the Parliamentary canteen, so I got in early and profited from what I knew was going to come in the second half.
01:02:13
Speaker 3: Seriously, you can just see him.
01:02:17
Speaker 21: They always stop. You can just tell them when they stopped. It's like sort of blanket gets thrown over them and they just all go to pieces and you can see it there. They just drop their chins. So I'm now learning to profit from the misery. I played a Mongolian beef in the Tropic.
01:02:38
Speaker 3: I was I always texted you during the game, and I thought, no, you're probably suffering enough.
01:02:44
Speaker 21: Now when you just become an object of pity, you know, no text you anymore. The phone just go silent.
01:02:49
Speaker 1: How do you feel that the few excise cut that comes into play tomorrow, But it's been a big talking point from among our listeners. Is this the kind of thing that's is it good politics and bad economic? What's what's the view on the ground.
01:03:02
Speaker 21: That seems to be the sort of the view from the pointy heads over here. Most of the economists are saying, oh, it's inflationary. I mean the argument of kids doing it. Just last week when the television supporter it was that it will cost a lot of money. And look if the price was given the sort of mad frame of mind crumps in at the moment. He's just barking mad now. And if it puts ground trips or something like that, and the price of barrel of all goes up another ten bucks, it will disappear anyway, right, So it'll just get eaten up by another price fight. But at the other end, I mean kind of a sage inflation. I'm a bit sort of dubious about that because you know, for example, to drive a diesel, diesel's gone from like a buck eighty three twenty you're going to knock thirty cents off the price, it's still bloody expensive, or it's not eally going to rush out, you know, fi tanks, you know, so like it's fall into a dollar or something. So I'm a bit perplex about that side of the argument. But you know, obviously people are you know, it's killing people the crist of fuel. If you don't have an alternative but an electric car, or you take the bus or whatever, and you've got to drive, it's pretty nasty. So imagine most of it probably would would appreciate, but just taking the edge off it a bit. But it is expensive, and it's only for three months. And you know what happens if the war is still raging in three months, we're going to extend it for another three months, and then you're starting to get some serious you know, we're serious problems with the budget. I mean, the trouble is with this day whereas that we're starting this crisis and it's an economic crisis and the budget couldn't be worth shape. You know, we're already inflation through the roof and massive deficits before this began. You know, we always use government saying that, like before COVID or something like that, or the GFC, we were lucky, we had a strong budget, you know, before this started, so we could to build the shop there there there's no capacity to talk. So, I mean, inflation was three point seven percent in February, you knowo point seven above x MA Raine to three. So it's going to get pretty bad, this stuff. And you know, just spending money throwing out of the door. You could sort of make more of the case for it. Yeah, have we had a smaller deficit or even a surface but when you're forty billion in deficit and you just now roll and go out the door for a short term pix, it sort of gets a bit worrying.
01:05:20
Speaker 3: What's being said sort of behind the scenes feel by the PM and ministers about the unpredictability of what is happening in the Middle East. I mean, in the last forty eight hours we've seen Donald Trump go from lauding the Iranians as good negotiators, saying that he's very confident that a deal can be done, and then today he says we've get back and he's going to bomb them back down. Say age again.
01:05:46
Speaker 21: Yeah, look, well, I don't know if you saw the Prime Minister's press conference yesterday. Question he's asked by Marke Riley in the Channel seven he opened the shoulders pretty up on Trump and then he went harder on the seven thirty report last night. That sort of sort of mold version of what they're thinking behind the is they're really frustrated, they're really angry at what the US and Israel has done in terms of they understand. You know, no one likes to rhyme. Now it's depending the raining regime, but you don't go into one of these things half faked without knowing what you're doing and what the consequences are. And the fact that they've failed to anticipate that the first thing around would do was shut the straits of a mood, the straight up a move and not have a plant stop that. It's just the reckless, haphazard nature of what Trump has done, and he's seeming indifference to the sort of stuffer and it's now causing around the globe, and he clearly has no plan. He has no plan, and ABU about a week ago it was fairly sharp. I reported it. A few of us picked it up, where he sort of said a mold version of what he said yesterday. He said, look, you said you wanted to degrade their nuclear capacity and they're broader military reach. You seem to have done that, so get out of it. That was the effect of his words. And yesterday it was much clearer Trump, and he said, you know you've done everything you said you want to do, so why you still there. It's time to de escalate, and we have the sort of bizarre thing on the on the aeroplane. This day, Trump told the reporters that he had also achieved regime change. And no one believed that. You knock off the atoler and replace him with another a tool and it's all the same cronies. That's not regime change. It's a new jockey on the horse. But it was interesting last night out beneath it, because he said publicly, you're not going to history change. You can't change your regime by bombing a country. In fact, you tend to get the opposite a result just spark nationalism. But last night on seven thirty reported you're getting us so has he achieved regime change and used to say no, because they're actually the middle power leaders like Australia Canadate. They need to Trump needs to think he's had a win, because that bloke only does something when you think he's won. So it's a bit like this sort of you know, there's petulant toddler. You've got actually make you feel like he's one, he's one whatever with a fight and the play then and only then when they leave. If he thinks he's lost, it's not going to leave because for him, it's all about saving faith. So no one believes that he's achieved with regime change. He may claim it, but it's sort of in our interest to let him think he has done that. So he sort of winds things back because it's with every day that there it gets Messia and Messia and I could tell this field situation in May are now it's going to get pretty serious.
01:08:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, great stuff is always phil Phil Curry, the national political editor for the Australian Financial Review.
01:08:33
Speaker 1: I thought it was it was instructive just to Fiel's comments there and indeed a lot of our text line as well. That most recent I think it was Roy Morgan. There's so many poles these days, Fox and edge of Roy Morgan, you gov News poll. It wasn't Newspole, it was one of the other ones talked about. It polled the Australian attitudes to leaders and it was the highest that Paul Enhanced had it ever been. It was also the lowest Donald Trump's ever been in Australia. And I reckon that was that was a really interesting moment because I think there was a suspicion history being those two things would have moved in concert with one another, but they are. The right populis movement in Australia exists now in its own ecosystem, divorced from what's happening in the US, where you know, perhaps ironically, Donald Trump's never been less popular domestic league there at the moment, but also hugely unpopular here. But it's not a Margaret Trump related surge of right wing populism in Australia anymore. It's its own thing, fueled by house prices and immigration and a sense of not being listened to and so forth. But it's interesting Donald Trump at the moment, not winning friends anywhere.
01:09:34
Speaker 3: He's a good example of how important it is to know about history and what field you said about bombing regimes into submission never really working, you know, because I think that the argument for doing what he did was a valid one, and I think it was an indictment on liberal governments, on smaller liberal governments. I mean that's governments like the Democrats that are was allowed to become so strong unchallenged by Western democracies. So for Trump to do what he did in the first instance, I was like, yes, But at the same time, it was but what next? And there's no thought given to the what it feels increasing like they're acting on bad intelligence. That there was a view that all it would take was sort of a decapitation strike on the leadership, and people would rise up because they'd seen five hundred unique students on CNN. You know, well, I think courageously not on on X.
01:10:31
Speaker 1: I think there's a problem, and it happens right across the globe and the people that are chronically online and have a have an algorithmic in an algorithmally informed view of the world or a fake news of the way, and you get to see what you want to see. And you know what, if you click on a lot of links of people protesting in Iran, guess what you get. You get a lot of more videos of people protesting in Iran. And I wonder if it created a false sense that things were closer to revolution there than they might be. Which is not to say there's not a huge amount of disquiet there about an oppressive and awful, bloody regime. It's just that it's hard for average joes to suddenly take up arms against a ruling class that has the army on their site.
01:11:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, a huge army. Sorry about the technical dramas with our YouTube and app this morning. We've got the it people working on it. But maybe just to pretend it's nineteen sixty three and just you know, listening to some plug in the while on the trains, just the radio today.
01:11:28
Speaker 5: Five double a Breakfast David pen Burthe and Will Goodings.
01:11:37
Speaker 22: In the criminal justice system, all defendant so innocent until proven guilty, either by confession, plea bargain, or trial by jury. This is one of those trials.
01:11:51
Speaker 1: You have one hundred dollars worth of semtes seafood to give away for the best quality seafood and best prices Semtest Seafoods open seven days factory. Derek Richmond rod At Richmond joined the duw rein cast your verdict on what is the question of the day. I think we just discussed it with Phil Curry. The fuel excise good politics but bad economics. Is there seems to be the divide that exists. But well, we're most interested in, as we always are, in what you our listeners think the cut of twenty six cents if you excuse me, without the decimal point.
01:12:23
Speaker 3: There is it?
01:12:27
Speaker 1: Is it a good policy or totally fuelish, totally fuelish good policy, or totally fuelish good policy or totally fuelish eight double two to three double a double O. Someone randomly on the jury will be selected to win the one hundred dollars worth of Semtas.
01:12:42
Speaker 3: Seafood, which is perfect ahead of Good Friday, which is the most holy day on the Christian calendar. And yet again it's being sullied by the fact that, in our constant quest for permanent arousal and entertainment, even the Adelaide Football Club is besmirching itself by.
01:13:00
Speaker 1: Playing I say that with total sincerity, hasn't Stirp played on.
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't go to that either. I just don't think and I don't even believe in God, But I think that Christianity the amount of the amount of sort of cowtowning that goes on to any other religion where you know, we're all sort of you turn on SBS and everything from Chinese New Year to the end of Ramadan, Todwali all get to mention. But when it comes to Christianity, you can you can say pretty much anything about Christian deities. You can have the Virgin Madonna playing the piano accordion just to take what I have to watch the footy on Good Friday?
01:13:44
Speaker 1: You could just choose not to.
01:13:45
Speaker 3: Can we just on the on the one day of the year that means so much to Christians? The day that poor old j C was was was strung up? I mean, we've got games that are actually happening at the very moment he was being crucified. Was it three twenty seven or something in the afternoon? What's that? This is gonna be the first quarter of the St Kilda game.
01:14:04
Speaker 1: The other thing that the Nanny's on at that time too? Should we not have the Nanny on TV? Can you watch TV? I love this annual stink will can you watch the Nanny?
01:14:15
Speaker 6: Or?
01:14:15
Speaker 21: Is that?
01:14:17
Speaker 3: Did they What I'm not saying, was it to like go full Taliban and only anything? Well, I think big mass public events. I guess the mass gatherings. So we could watch Flipping Across America, which is on nine Life at four o'clock in the hour. That was all right?
01:14:32
Speaker 21: Why can we?
01:14:33
Speaker 3: That's an appropriate and solemn reflection on them, is it?
01:14:41
Speaker 1: Listen, we're gonna do the jury. This is our favorite time of the year.
01:14:47
Speaker 23: As John Travolda says in Fault Fiction to be continued, let's go to Jerry Number one, good policy or totally fuelish the fuel ex size cut foolish, feelish, thank you feelish?
01:15:02
Speaker 1: If you could use the punus point, we're deadly serious about that jury. Did a good morning?
01:15:09
Speaker 24: I love it on the fence.
01:15:10
Speaker 21: I mean really, I was always taught that you know, ten percent nothing is nothing.
01:15:16
Speaker 8: I don't know what.
01:15:18
Speaker 3: That's a good point.
01:15:19
Speaker 1: That's a reasonable point.
01:15:20
Speaker 3: During number two, well and nothing, thank you?
01:15:27
Speaker 17: Do you?
01:15:27
Speaker 3: Number three?
01:15:27
Speaker 1: Good morning?
01:15:29
Speaker 19: It's good policy because everyone lives in the now, so no one's worried about what might be and how can it be a good Friday if there's no footing?
01:15:37
Speaker 1: Thank you jer M three multiple.
01:15:39
Speaker 3: It's always been part of East, hasn't it. Ossie Rules, you're number four, good morning, regular ballish.
01:15:46
Speaker 6: It's just going to get swallowed up somewhere along the line.
01:15:50
Speaker 3: Thank you, juring number four. Are you number five? Good morning?
01:15:54
Speaker 18: I think it's good if it's done in the right way, none of.
01:15:56
Speaker 8: This popping up extra stuff.
01:16:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, maybe yeah, there's a question about could have been more targeted to, you know, the trucking industry or something. During number six, good morning.
01:16:08
Speaker 25: Good morning boys, good policy.
01:16:12
Speaker 19: If it's all passed on and David started playing on goods, right.
01:16:17
Speaker 3: They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. We should all be watching the Nanny in solitude.
01:16:23
Speaker 1: During number seven, good morning, I.
01:16:25
Speaker 24: Think we're taking a big risk because I reckon petrol would be less in the future and they should have the Evans and odds again.
01:16:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, well, I think just randomly putting things in different columns here.
01:16:40
Speaker 1: Stage four was talking about a few rationing of the governments, but we might take one more during number eight during number eight, good morning, Good.
01:16:48
Speaker 21: Morning, guys.
01:16:49
Speaker 2: Look foolishly.
01:16:50
Speaker 21: You know the old saying in life, nothing is for free. They do this, We're going to pay for this for the who knows for how many more years.
01:16:58
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. You're a number.
01:17:00
Speaker 1: That's I think we should. We give you a numbers.
01:17:04
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
01:17:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, simple as that. During number eight, you've got the sam taste seafood coming your way. Interesting jury. I think the majority was probably on the side that it's foolish policy, fuelish for the purpose of the marginally. Yeah, all right, it's a time for five double a news breaking eight coming up in just a moment.
01:17:27
Speaker 5: Five double a breakfast deep in Pambervie and Will Goodings.
01:17:34
Speaker 1: Ten minutes after eight. Huge amount of texts coming in on the text lines it before zero, eight, thirteen ninety five or a lot on good Friday.
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Speaker 3: Just one.
01:17:41
Speaker 1: Brett sent a question two. We were debating earlier about the fuel excise, and I was talking about cutting the egg size and the absence of a savings measure has an inflationary impact. We're talking about the budget try implications of that, and Brett's just got it around backwards because he's had a go at me for saying I was advocating removing fringement. It's tax for ev Brett. I think you and I are on the same page. I was talking about making a saving by eliminating the egg. The fringe benefits tax exemption for EV's given the market is providing a pretty compelling argument to go that path. You don't need to artificially manipulate it.
01:18:16
Speaker 3: At the moment, I use the out of cott newsbreak to just check exactly what time Jesus did die after he was crucified. He was crucified at nine am and he died at three pm, which is going to be the fifteen minute mark of the North Melbourne Carlton game this weekend. I've got to say I reckon the only thing worse than being crucified. We'll be watching North morldn play cardon at the moment. But that's how we're going to ob moment fully watching happens in your house.
01:18:39
Speaker 1: But it ows it's not sort of a clockwork Ora install compulsion with your eyes pined back forcing you to watch it.
01:18:44
Speaker 3: You're actually free to do whatever the hell you want. We'll get to all these texts after we talk to the premiere. There's a mountain of them. Let's do that. Well. He was at National Cabinet yesterday for the big discussions around how to deal with the fuel crisis. The head line announcement from which was the fact that for three months there's going to be this halving in fuel like size. Premier Peter malanowskis joins us today for breaking a eight premier. What did you make of that decision, because there's a lot of talk about whether it's potentially going to be inflationary and could result in further pressure on interest rates. Do you think you've got the balance right?
01:19:24
Speaker 24: Look, I think the Comwealth had no choice but to try and make a move here because ultimately what inflationary is petrol price is going up. I mean, we've already seen the RBA respond to the implications of that. So what we see here is the Commonwealth seeking to ameliate the impacts of petrol prices going up, which means they'll go down. I think, you know, it's a few steps removed to be able to argue the case that it's inflationary when a natial fact the price of petrol will go down. And of course what we know and I think what the country is getting a pretty sharp lesson is just how entwined hydrocarbons are in our economy writ large. But the real retail example here is if petrol prices go up, then someone delivering milk to the local bakery, they're going to pass that cost on to the baker, and then the baker will have to pass that cost on to the consumer. So I can entirely understand why the commod has made this decision. And I, for one supporter, how.
01:20:20
Speaker 3: Are we looking locally? What's the situation like at the moment here with fuel supplies.
01:20:26
Speaker 24: So everything's happening as per usual and in terms of supply, and we still see the tankers rolling into Port Adelaide, which is our principal import terminal for fuel supplies. Around about a bit over half of our fuel supplies comes from Southeast Asia, principally Singapore, and the rest comes in a tanker from Geelong, where there is one of the country's two remaining refineries. And all those vessels have arrived at Port Adlaide on schedule for all refined fuel products diesel unleaded ninety one and so forth. So as it stands, we've seen we're just seen signs this morning of a bit of an amelioration in price already, which might be a function of demand coming off a little bit within the marketplace. There was a suggestion late last week from RAA we had started to see signs that the demand spikes that have been so acute throughout the state and around in fact around the country have started to come off a little bit. But we want to see a little bit more of that before we sort of account for it as a trend. But certainly, as far as supply is concerned, gence everything is on track. I guess what we're all trying to plan for is what happens if that changes, if this war protracts and ends up escalating throughout the month of May and June.
01:21:45
Speaker 1: Premier interest in your thoughts on a concept that's been floated on the left in Australia in reaction to a fuel shock like this one like the one we've seen when the we're in Ukraine broke out as well, and this would be a federal in the federal sphere. It would affect a large company based in South Australia in Santos, the call for an export tax on gas with prices spiking infrastructure hit in the middle Eastern guitar and so forth. Is there any merit to an idea like that? Do you think?
01:22:15
Speaker 21: Well?
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Speaker 24: I think it's proven to assess all our options under extraordinary circumstances. The only point I'd make is that when it comes to policy interventions around taxation, you really want to think through what the long term consequences are, because a knee jerk reaction could end up having an eco on opposite reaction that becomes regrettable later. And the best recent example of that we've got as a country is some of the decisions that we made during COVID. I don't make a critique of the Morrison government when it comes to Job Keeper, for instance, because at the time it absolutely seemed like the right thing to do, but with hindsight it was over engineered and it had a huge, lasting inflationary impact throughout the economy that arguably we're still feeling the effects of today. My simple point being is, and I've made this point in National Cabinet. I'm an advocate of making sure that we really think this through, assess the economic advice, and don't make rash decisions, particularly when what we want as a country is to see companies like Santos and Woodside and others. Beach Energy another good South Australian company investing in the curation of supply, so any disincentive against that we may well regret later.
01:23:35
Speaker 1: Premier this might in some ways this seems beyond the point, but we should probably be locking in things that are of economic benefit to South Australian's at a time when we are under facing economic challenges. I speak of gather around the AFL CEO in town for negotiations. Are you confident that it's going to be locked the way long term?
01:23:55
Speaker 24: I'm never over confident about these things. Look, the AFL have been a great partner for the state in recent years on gather around. We've had a really good working relationship. But I'm also not naive to the fact that they operate on a commercial basis, and my responsibility is to make sure the state government does as well. So you know, we've got a negotiation to be had now we're both committed to that negotiation. You know, I've had it on ice for some time now, so now it's an opportunity to sit down and get together and see if we can't nutt anything out. I don't feel a sense of urgency. I'm not going to rush.
01:24:31
Speaker 9: Rush this.
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Speaker 24: The only circumstances under which we're going to reach a quick agreement is if it's in the interest of South Australians, and again there's a fair bit to negotiate. Their price being really important, the AFL are going to want to. I've seen some reports which presumably you're coming out of the AFL to the media that they want the price of gather Around to go up. I don't think so. The reason why I say that. The reason why I say that is because where the whe that have made gather Around the success that it is in conjunction with the AFL, and we shouldn't have any sort of misapprehension on behalf of the AFL that South Australia's success should be exclusively to their benefit.
01:25:14
Speaker 3: Well, this is it. I mean, if the AFL is going to sort of sit there coquettishly twirling its hair with its fingers, seeing which state government's going to come along and give it the most money, don't we sort of have the whip hand where we say, well, listen, you can hold it in Sydney or Brisbane where no one will go. You can hold it in per particularly in the midst of a fuel crunch where no one's going to be able to afford to get there. We're can hold in Tasmania where they haven't even got a stadium exactly so, exactly so you need to get the check book out.
01:25:45
Speaker 24: You can do the negotiations for me, Dave. But you're absolutely right, and it takes us back to the beginning, which are the points that I made, particularly in regards to the AFL wanting to take it to Sydney. In the start, I said, well, look, if you go to Sydney, you're going to have six people what a you know, Gold Coast versus free oh at a Western city stadium, whereas here we've had consistent sellouts. In fact, I think I think at the moment every game is sold out, with the exception of the Saturday afternoon game between Estendon and Melbourne, but even there I think there's other thirty thousand tickets sold. So but you know, we've done this well. But look, to be fair to the AFL, they have been good partners on this and they have invested in data around as well, and we've got a model that works. I think it's in both our interests to stick to it. And you know, we're putting a few things on the table that we think can enhance it as a value proposition for families because the secret sources gather around that people often neglect to mention is that it has been of great value to families, both people who travel and South Australians who stay here. Ticket prices we are very deliberately kept low. People can come and see a lot of footy. You know, they can go to a lot of footy for under one hundred bucks. You know, with ticket prices, I've either been free ten dollars or around the twenty dollars mark. It's good value. And now the ticket price so that the petrol prices are variable. And I'm working with the AFL on seeing if we can't do something there as well for people traveling across the border, because that's in our economic interest. So we want to keep it a value proposition for families because they're the ones that make it happen.
01:27:27
Speaker 3: That's interesting what potential sorts of measures could be taken with the AFL for people driving here.
01:27:34
Speaker 24: Well, the most important is supply and you know, I you know, we've seen reports of some people who thinking through their travel arrangements because they're worried that they're going to get you know, to Keith and won't be able to buy petrol. So we can address that. It hasn't been an issue in the past. I don't have any reason to believe it will be an issue for this gather round, but we're looking at some measures that we can institute that will at least give people the confidence that it's need to fill up across you know, on their way through, whether it be a border town or Keith or you know wherever, that they'll have the means.
01:28:09
Speaker 3: To be able to do it. Thanks for joining us, Premier Peter Millan ask us this morning Jesus.
01:28:16
Speaker 1: Twenty after eight lots of thoughts coming through the text line. We might take a quick break and we'll get to some of those in just a moment. Eight double two three double o double is our number, or you can flick us a thought on zero four eight zero eight thirteen ninety.
01:28:27
Speaker 5: Five David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:28:33
Speaker 1: Well, I thought we might leave the Good Friday footy fight till Wednesday this week, but we started at early. It happened four eight o'clock and the listeners are divided. David on the text line, I think the fight should go all week. I actually think it's good that we discuss it. There's a really really good discussion to have one here. Good morning, David Will. I completely agree with you, David, that whether you're a Christian or not, respect should be shown by the recognition of Good Friday as a day of reverence and not for bread and circuses. Happy Easter from Chris one here am well said Pembo. People are happy to take the day off, but not so quick to respect what it stands for. Conversely, Buffalo Bill says, oh, dear David, this is the twenty first century, not the nineteen fifties. What percentage of Christians are there in society? How many really follow their faith religiously? You're possibly in the one percent that want to sit around at home. Let's enjoy the footy. I will be, and so will tens of thousands of other supporters. Thanks for that, Buffalo Bill. And then Mark says less than ten percent of Australians go to church weekly, and what somebody wants to stop ninety percent of Australians from enjoying just another Friday? The way they choose to enjoy it. Give me a break.
01:29:37
Speaker 3: There's a really good one further down about someone who had a holiday in Germany. Here we go, Nathan. I think David has a valid point. I visited Germany once for a holiday. Everything there shuts down on Sundays. When I returned, I complained to a German colleague, and their response was, isn't it great you get to spend time with friends and family? She had a point. From my secular point of view, I'm well and really sick of the AFL's desire to parasitically saturate every conceivable aspective of society. I think that's a separate point because I don't disagree with that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I barely have the energy to must have been Christine.
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Speaker 3: How the crows are going these days as a result, Yeah, I think separate and excellent point. Then Angela says she's going to be watching the Life of Brian on Friday and that she thinks that Jesus himself would approve. What do you watch?
01:30:25
Speaker 1: Your line on watching the Monty Python.
01:30:27
Speaker 3: I think Life of Brian is such a terrifically intelligent film, and it's it's about the theology and raises all footy too low brow. We are going to have that that was a cheap shot.
01:30:44
Speaker 1: I'm not going to know.
01:30:45
Speaker 3: I'm not going to specifically watch Life of Brian. But Good Friday Afternoon, okay, but I've got no issue with the film. Okay, it is terrific.
01:30:55
Speaker 1: Let's talk about good things to do this weekend beyond Good Friday, where we try to give a bit of a sense of the great things you can do in Adelaide that might cost you an arm and a leg at a time when we're all trying to save a couple of bucks. Dr Samantha Hamilton is the director of one of my favorite places in the city, the South Australian Museum. Doctor Hamilton, good morning to you.
01:31:16
Speaker 10: Good morning.
01:31:17
Speaker 3: You've got a great job. Dr Hamilton. What's your favorite thing at the museum?
01:31:23
Speaker 10: Well, I can't actually pick just one favorite thing. The whole thing is my favorite, just like you. It's just you know, loving it so much. I just love the whole thing.
01:31:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like picking your favorite child, isn't it. But what about the the Egyptology room is pretty pretty hard to go past, isn't That's such.
01:31:39
Speaker 1: An amazing room? You feel like you're in a Tintin book when.
01:31:41
Speaker 10: You go in there, it's fabulous.
01:31:45
Speaker 3: What about is there? Is it much of a discussion like because I know that in Britain they've had the big thing with Greece about the Elgin marbles, have were they had to grapple with any issues like that.
01:31:55
Speaker 1: With some of the stuff that we've.
01:31:56
Speaker 10: Got, well, there's always discussion and there in the museum sector about you know, what should be there and what should not be there. You know, there are things on display, you know, those mummified remains. Some people think that it's appropriate and some people think that they're not. Yeah, you know, there's always going to be division, a bit like the football discussion there, right, There's going to be things that people agree with, some things.
01:32:23
Speaker 3: That they don't. But the reason we've got you on basically, you know, for moments, I've only got one question, which is how great is the South Australian Museum. But it is important for people to be reminded because often we get older, we think I went to the museum years ago. I went there on a school excursion. But people are looking for something unique and fascinating to do that costs nothing. It's important to remind people that you're still there.
01:32:47
Speaker 10: Absolutely.
01:32:49
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:32:49
Speaker 10: I mean that museum, you know, in my perspective, is our state's pride and joy. Really. You know, it's a place where it helps the community understand life nerves. You know, it takes us all the way back to the beginning of life with you know, the fossils and five hundred million year old stories all the way to the present day.
01:33:08
Speaker 19: So I think, yeah, I'm also a big.
01:33:10
Speaker 10: Fan of reminding everyone that it's their museum. It's an important place, and there's so much to do for free. I mean, we're so lucky to be available and free to the public. People are welcome to come in there. We're open every day ten am to five pm, except for Good Friday and then on Antac Day we're going to have reduced hours starting.
01:33:31
Speaker 4: At twelve pm.
01:33:32
Speaker 10: But yeah, we've got temporary displays at the moment, we've got a couple of great displays, one being from the Papaya Community. It's in our temporary gallery in the Aboriginal Cultures Gallery, and that's got some gorgeous illustrations and drawings and storybooks and animations about a school, a remote school. They're in the Papunya community, so I encourage people to go and have a look at that. We've also got this fantastic display in our foyer Creatures of the Paleozoic, and there's these incredible drawings and recreations of five hundred million year old fossils and that were discovered in the in U Bain Kangaroo Island, So we're telling those stories as well. And then there's going to be lots of free activities over the school holidays. You know, people can come into the Discovery Center which is open Wednesday's, Friday, Saturdays and Sundays, and it's.
01:34:25
Speaker 3: A good thing to do with the kids during school holidays for sure, never a shortage of stuff to get into.
01:34:31
Speaker 1: My daughter has the best time going there. She absolutely loves it. It's just great to see.
01:34:35
Speaker 3: Have you ever has she ever been freaked out by some of those death masks from Vaniwatu in the They didn't register for it. It was so crazy. I mentioned being one of the first explorers, particularly when they were still doing a enthusiastic job of the old cannibalism there too, like your rocket.
01:34:51
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of religion, it was the missionaries that came to grief, wasn't it.
01:34:59
Speaker 3: You say there's a good thing.
01:35:00
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm just saying it was a thing that happened, That's all I'm saying.
01:35:03
Speaker 3: Late is nineteen seventy one. Yeah, Samantha Hamilton, Doctor, Samantha Hamilton, the ESA Museum Director, Thanks for coming.
01:35:11
Speaker 5: On five double a breakfast. David Penberthy and Will Goodings.
01:35:20
Speaker 1: Twenty to nine. We're going to call from Ben in McLaren flat about something going on the trains this morning. Ben, Good morning to you.
01:35:28
Speaker 8: Yeah, Hi, I will Yeah, just to let you know the dad laid line. We stopped at Woodlands because of broken doors apparently, and we've been here and now we've you know, about to get on another train, but we've already been here for three quarters of an hour and that train that we were on just drove off.
01:35:47
Speaker 4: But I'm not sure.
01:35:48
Speaker 8: Well, we couldn't have been on that train in the.
01:35:50
Speaker 17: First place and just kept going.
01:35:52
Speaker 3: But anyway, that is a bit peculiar.
01:35:54
Speaker 17: Yeah, they said about broken door.
01:35:55
Speaker 8: It's just ironic, isn't it. You know that they're.
01:35:57
Speaker 24: Encouraging ust to date public transport.
01:36:01
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly a lot of things to go smoothly, but anyway, just letting people know. Yeah, the Adelaide, the secret Dadelaide line. Yeah, unfortunately. And also, David, can I just quickly say to you, you know, I absolutely agree with you about the Good Friday thing, and you know, and you made the point about you know, you turn it on TV and you see about this religion and that religion. I did some nursing in Kuwait. And and you can't even put a star up at Christmas?
01:36:33
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, I think right, yeah, yeah, you can't put a star up, can't. You know You've got to practice all your Catholics and underground and yeah, it's just you know, it's one rule for one and one rule for another.
01:36:45
Speaker 8: Around the world.
01:36:46
Speaker 20: And yeah, I agree with you about respecting Good Friday.
01:36:50
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. Ben. Way would be like it was in the seventies when people go, what's open on Good Friday? The ants, I reckon, she's just been nothing. I just think it was better. How do we end up in this position where you're the Catholic here part of our complex relationship. I feel like I'm channeling Eric Charles Penburdy, my Methodist grandfather.
01:37:12
Speaker 1: Let's see, it's this sort of I think everyone should be I mean, the day exists because it's a fundamentally important day for so many Australians in the history, and it should be observed and they should be afforded the luxury of having a day and a weekend where you can do that. The question, the heart of the question for mine, is should others be what should others be compelled to do? Because we don't, as part of a free society, compel people to do much. But we do and we don't, and I sort of see it as part of it. I put it in the same context as the ban on mobile phones in schools now there's a lot of evidence that that has made kids behave differently where they think, what am I going to do now I'm going to have a conversation with somebody Like it's sort of.
01:38:03
Speaker 3: This constant need to be stimulated. Does even things like the Boxing day sales for crying outloud? Well, cay, you just sit around at home with your family leading cold turkey.
01:38:13
Speaker 4: You can't.
01:38:13
Speaker 3: You can?
01:38:14
Speaker 1: You can also you don't want to, you can do something else. That's kind of the fundamental what we allow in a free society.
01:38:22
Speaker 3: But we've got to the point where we can't. We can't get we can't face the idea of having one day, even one afternoon, where it's mandated that you don't do anything but just reflect. And you can reflect in a Christian way, you can reflect in a secular way on how lucky you are to have a good family, have a decent meal in front of you. It just feels like, you know, there always.
01:38:46
Speaker 1: Has to be something, but it sounds it sounds more like then you see Good Friday as an opportunity to push back against sort of you know, the sort of the encroachment of technology on modern life, more so than an opportunity to.
01:38:57
Speaker 3: Reflect on I think we should crucive. Well, no, I think we should respect the Christian tradition, and I think we don't do a very good job of that. Michael. This is where it goes back to my question the Nanny. So, but but why is why is the tipping point? Footy?
01:39:11
Speaker 1: I get all that, but why do we we never have debates around, you know, being able to flip on the radio and listen to top forty music on the day, or we never have debates around watching the Nanny at four o'clock in the afternoon.
01:39:22
Speaker 3: So it's logical because at what point does the scale of the entertainment But that's that's right.
01:39:28
Speaker 1: Why does it just why is footy the point at which where we draw the line?
01:39:32
Speaker 21: Because it just.
01:39:32
Speaker 3: Looked like it was a real crossing the rubicon moment in terms of all, let's just give give up completely the idea that any of these traditions should be respected, like if you're can have a mass event, it just it feels like it's such an up yours to the tradition that was that.
01:39:47
Speaker 1: Lots of people went to m I don't know, we don't compel people to go to the Adelaide cap on, not on the Monday exactly, Larry and saulisbrey downs on the one morning.
01:40:00
Speaker 3: Mary, Yeah, we talk about.
01:40:03
Speaker 25: The Easter thing here, right. I don't agree with football earning sports on a Friday. But what I used to do way back in my younger days, it will sit down and watch. There was three movies that watched. This was Barrabas King of Kings, uh and what's the greatest story ever told? You know with Victim Mature and all those rightstone and that's where we should be sitting down and watching knows historical religious movies. So the children of today. If if you could get a ten year old to sit.
01:40:32
Speaker 8: Down and watch a.
01:40:33
Speaker 25: Three hour movie, well well that'll be that'll be a miracle in itself.
01:40:37
Speaker 1: I reckon no fond memories of school of watching Ben hur An Easter Week each.
01:40:42
Speaker 3: Year's love that which of those movies is the one that John Waynes in? He's in one of those films, isn't here? He said he truly was the son of God. And someone said the director said, John, can you say it with more awe?
01:40:58
Speaker 1: And he said, oh, he truly was the seventh Guy. I love the ceremony of of Easter Week and the and the build up and through Lent and so forth. But I used to always think teachers, clearly in Catholic schools enjoyed and what are we going to do this afternoon? Oh that's right, Easter week will chuck ben eer on that that takes care of most of the day. Darcy, good morning.
01:41:22
Speaker 26: Good morning, trains of pace from Easter trying to use the power of radio and find the older gentleman from yesterday. I paid for his fuel at the exconvenience of Valley View, and I want to buy his grandkids and great grandkids all their chocky eggs for Easter to reduce their.
01:41:43
Speaker 20: Come it up.
01:41:44
Speaker 3: So yeah, if he's.
01:41:46
Speaker 26: Listening in touch with the radio, and I'll give you some cabriy eggs and stuff to give to your great grandkids and grandkids.
01:41:58
Speaker 3: Man. If well, Darcy, it's very generous of you, mate. And if and if the person that you paid that for paid that forward for is listening, give us a call eight double two three double a, yeah.
01:42:08
Speaker 1: Double a in touch. More people should be like Darcy.
01:42:12
Speaker 3: That reminds me I should share that one of our listeners. We're talking the other day about how great the Vietnamese community is and what an amazing contribution they've made to life in Australia, hard working people. And then we did the barn Me conversation and I mentioned my local barn Me vendor, Goodie good at Yum Yum, and said how good the ice coffee was. Well, a lady went in there and she left a little post it note handwrote in the shop saying, Hey, Dave just wanted you know know, love the show listen all the time. But then when I went to pay for that day's ice coffee, Anna in the shop she said this is on She said, it was not on us, it's on your listener, because she said she was going to pay it forward. So she paid for me to get an ice coffee. How nice?
01:42:55
Speaker 1: That well done?
01:42:56
Speaker 3: And this she sounded like a like a like a very funny person because she'd never tried and I mean funny, amusing, because she'd never tried Vietnamese ice coffee before. And she bought one for herself and and I said, what do you think? And she said that's better than sex. Wow, that's quite the review, all right.
01:43:15
Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
01:43:24
Speaker 1: Ten minutes to nine. Someone of the texts, I just asks where can I get this iced coffee?
01:43:29
Speaker 3: I'll have what she's having.
01:43:31
Speaker 1: I tell you what one thing that might be better than that iced coffee. As the sacker is going back to back in winning the Sheffield Shield, I mean I genuinely have after the winn in the mid nineties and the toil of the last couple of decades, didn't think it was necessarily ever going to happen again in my lifetime. That happened twice. It feels completely surreal, and it's on the back of one of our great local cricketers Alex Carey, who again was just remarkable when he joins us now on five double O breakfast. Alex, congratulations to your mate. Just an unbelievable performance by you and your term mates.
01:44:07
Speaker 6: Yeah, good morning guys. Thanks having me on it. It certainly was. I guess you know, we'll get to it. But I don't think too many traveling Sheffield Chield teams have won away of wait anyway. And to come over to Victoria and get the chocolates is yeah, a great feeling.
01:44:27
Speaker 3: What was the belief like on Sunday when you went out about Alex? You must have felt pretty daunted by it. No, not really.
01:44:35
Speaker 6: We have been really, I guess strong in not worrying too much about the situation of the game and letting that dictate how we play. We believe if we take the scoreboard out of it for long enough, we'll play good cricket. We'll stick to our processes and hopefully things go our way. It doesn't always happen, but yeah, I wasn't looking at the scoreboard too much. Obviously you were in a bit of stick situation. But the way that nathanick Andrew was able to occupy the other end and probably play his best inning to South Australia. Was great to see. We know what he can do with the ball in hand, but with the bat he was outstanding.
01:45:14
Speaker 3: How the celebrations last night, what was the plan of attack?
01:45:18
Speaker 6: Yeah, well they started pretty early. We I think we bowled him out at about eleven am, so no, it was a nice afternoon. We had a lot of support from South Australian family and friends make the trip over, so you know we're able to celebrate with them, and yeah, we'll jump on the plane this morning. We'll head back to ad Lada. I think we're in thunder Ball the cartoon at four point thirty, which was we did it last year. We had a nice turnout, so hopefully we can see some of the local fans at Rundle Mall the cartnoon.
01:45:49
Speaker 1: To what do you put the turnaround down? Alex, Your career has spanned a period of despair from the Jellybacks to our two times Sheffield Chield winners. What what what's changed in your view?
01:46:02
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good question. I experienced a little bit los of my time here at the Sacker and hasn't always been I guess this enjoyable at times. It was pretty tough and to be able to have a list which took a long time to build, a really you know, strong list of players to come over from inter state and those players wanted to develop their cricket and play more first class cricket and hostally one day represent the country. And we've got a really strong bowling attack. We've got a lot of depth. I do also acknowledge the coaches that we've had in the past and trying to build this list in it and it's not just a we've had success over two years. It's been a longer build than that. And yeah, I do appreciate that as well. But I think you know Ryan Harris, the way that he inspires the group, you guys would know. The way that he played the game was tough. He always loves the ball in hand and one of the contests and I think he wanted to run out there yesterday with us, very passionate. He loves it and he gets the best out of this good You.
01:47:08
Speaker 3: Sound like you're holding up all right, MA. It's probably blessing in the guy's not having Travis Head there for the celebrations. I guess.
01:47:15
Speaker 6: The boys are pretty good.
01:47:18
Speaker 1: Well, you get used to it now, I guess, aren't you.
01:47:21
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm getting a bit older too, I can't keep up with then it's yeah, look, it was a lot of fun. There was just lots of lots of happy people around the place yesterday afternoon. And I guess, you know, looking looking back last year was really special. To do it in front of home, family and friends in Adelaide at Karen Rolton, which was amazing. But and after how long it had been, I guess we'll look back on this one. Going back to back is probably a better victory, a better win. And at times we were definitely behind the game and to stay in it long enough and to be able to turn that around and to defend one hundred and ninety was a lea special effort.
01:48:01
Speaker 3: Where was it played in Melbourne? Which ground was were you at?
01:48:05
Speaker 6: We're at the junction over American. It's a nice venue. We probably had a few more fans there over Saturday and Sunday. We wrapped it up Monday morning, so there was you know, people went back to work. But yeah, we were pretty happy.
01:48:20
Speaker 3: Well, mate, you've done the state proud. As it's you know two years running now and after the amazing summer you had, not just with the gloves but with the bat for the Test team. It's a nice sort of cherry on top for what's been a great and hugely successful summer for you.
01:48:36
Speaker 6: No thank you, It certainly has it's look back and yeah, it's been a pretty special couple of years to be honest. Won the Shield last year, won the Ashes this summer, and to be able to go back to backwards, a group of guys who have a lot of fun playing with, you know, for a state that I love playing forward.
01:48:57
Speaker 2: It's great.
01:48:58
Speaker 3: Good on you, mate, Alex Cary. How that triumphant read back? Brilliant, brilliant performance bus out Australia.
01:49:05
Speaker 1: We've got a great text earlier from someone saying too, did you see how happy KG was? He was on seven last night and there was no act, there was no performance.
01:49:13
Speaker 3: He looked.
01:49:13
Speaker 1: I've genuinely never seen Cage look so happy. It was like he was in heaven winning the Shield two years in a row. As he said, he certainly didn't expect to live to see another Shield win, let alone getting to see two of them, and who knows, maybe more they're just a dominant side. Let's a look at the fuel situation. Better to be a member with RAA road service now again with that massive qualifier, what qualifies as cheap these days doesn't sound like it, but it is, a few petrol stations have already dropped prices. So the Northeast Road there are four stations at two thirty nine point five, which if you look at the twenty sixth sense that we're going to be getting from tomorrow, that's sort of in line with the new price that you'll see. The mobile Shadow Parks I was thirty nine point five as well. The average though is still two fifty nine point nine. If you take in the regions, it's over two sixty and it's the most expensive unleaded price in the nation according to the National Fuel Watch. Diesel similar things our Northeast Road. If you go to Northeast Road today, Philip, that's going to be a cheap as you're going to get at diesels now three dollars nine point five kriche. The average though, three dollars twenty four point nine. Across the majority of metro stations. Once again, regionally, you're going to be playing significantly more than that. So expensive and it yeah, so fuel excise officially kicks in tomorrow, and we'll keep a close ey on how readily that is passed on. I would imagine it gets passed on straight away.
01:50:42
Speaker 3: We're going to continue this conversation tomorrow. We only do you think we can put a line through it? Now, I'll tell you what the listeners are into it. Yeah, we've got a mountain of feedback about it. It wasn't a Kyle and Jackie O type moment. I still love and respect you. We agree to disagree.
01:50:57
Speaker 1: It's good, isn't it.
01:50:58
Speaker 3: It's anoying art to dying are agreeing to disagree.
01:51:02
Speaker 1: Because people just habitate among their people, like minded people entirely. Now you can craft your entire existence online around only ever seeing opinions that reinforce what you already think.
01:51:12
Speaker 3: Someone pointed that out in the comment section on a Piece of It for the OZ, starting with Jane Carro, the author one of the men boycotts of writers work, who was on Saturday night the South Australian election, saying FFS South Australia, how can you vote for Hanson? How can you vote for one nation? YadA, YadA, YadA, and then Mike Car't and jumped in all the usual suspects. Someone pointed out that if you look at their Twitter feeds, they block everyone who doesn't agree with them.
01:51:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a way to live. You can cultivate in existence these days.
01:51:42
Speaker 3: Believer.
01:51:42
Speaker 1: That means you don't ever have to be confronted with the descending opinion, which is a boring way to live.
01:51:47
Speaker 3: I would have thought so.
01:51:48
Speaker 1: Thanks for being part of the discussion this morning, folks. David will be doing nothing on Friday. See tomorrow us a wrong bound soil.
01:52:03
Speaker 3: Lots of packing up comes you, Ota falls on line, covering everything to you. In sand Astrabia, this is three. Nowhere he's seen as an upstairs
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Speaker 15: This is three.
