FIVEAA Breakfast with David & Will - 9 September 2025

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Speaker 3: Today live from hein Marsh Square. It's five double a Breakfast Deevid Penberbe and Will Goodings.
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Speaker 4: Ate after six. Good morning to you. Welcome to Tuesday is the ninth of September. It's spring. It's really feeling like it as well. Being swopped by a magpie yet that's always a good sign of the change of the season. We're gonna be chatting with the cologist and verdex but expert A Grain and Cleary just after we get into some news headlines very very shortly, just get a sense of the things you can do, the areas you can avoid, and some tactics to employ if you're in a swooping sort of zone. So we'll get into that very shortly. Also coming up remarkable scenes in France. I think they're onto there. They're going to be onto their fourth prime minister in about two years because a note competence motion again has befallen the PM there.
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Speaker 5: What does it all mean?
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Speaker 4: We're going to be chatting with the an A and U expert in French politics dr Main Party before seven o'clock this morning, because that's just transpired overnight. Quite a remarkable situation there. How loud do you have to play music for the roof of a venue to fall in? Well, Unfortunately Confession Nightclubs founder and own have found out it's not happy. They'll be joining us on the program before seven o'clock. John Ferguson, good friend of the show, a journalist at The Australian who's covered the Aarin Patterson trial from day dot, been in the court room every day covering it, will be joining us after seven just to talk about the culmination of that trial, notably a non parole period of thirty three years following a life sentence. We'll get into that issue a little bit later in the morning.
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Speaker 5: Today.
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Speaker 4: Phil Coourry's going to be on the show. We'll get out Thomas Farm's footy debate. Oh and David. Exciting news. We have tickets to the Crow's Hawthorne game on Friday night to give away and good morning to you, Good.
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Speaker 5: Morning, well, good morning listeners. They are again the hottest tickets in town after the Collingwood game last week where so many people were heartbroken five to double a is your ticket destination. The same happened again yesterday for the Adelaide Hawthorne game. They went in record time. Have you are you going?
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Speaker 4: I'll be working there beforehand working it's up there while we're doing the news from down there. Ye last Thursday night. Of course you did, so that'll be good. I thought you taped it and watched it later.
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Speaker 6: You do.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I watched it on my seven hours fast forward to my intros. I watched you and Home and Away religiously home in always on before the news, isn't it? No, after the news? That's right? What's on before wheel?
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Speaker 4: No, Wheel hasn't been on for about thirty years. No, that's right, the chase.
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Speaker 5: Look at you. You're you're a chase.
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Speaker 4: You're a You're a new media guy, now, aren't you. Yeah, streaming, just get it all on the run. Yeah, you're on the apps. I get it downloaded on madueval.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. You pretend you pretend you don't know you're on the apps. Hey, I've never I've never used any of those things. Yes you have. I haven't used I've used the SBS one for my taste in alternative cinema. Okay, that's one I was putting it down. Cooking shows. Oh yeah, oh yeah, the cooking shows. Cooking shows are terrific. Now I'm just going back to.
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Speaker 4: The office and we're going to watch SBS cooking shows.
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Speaker 5: Just knock.
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Speaker 4: Now, we've got tickets to give away to Friday night's game Crows Hawthorne. The Crows need to turn their luck around. We want to turn an unlucky Crows fans luck around because here's how this is going to work today. Last week we found the loudest, We found the most passionate, we found the most colorful and smartest grows.
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Speaker 5: Loudest people laughing about the loudest and quite something. Some port fans are still recovering from the loudest.
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Speaker 4: We're asking you this morning about your stories of hard luck as a Crows van. We were to find the unluckiest Crows fan to go along.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 4: Maybe you missed your flight to the ninety ninety seven Grand Final. Maybe you left at three quarter time in the prelim in nineteen ninety seven. Maybe you gave away your tickets.
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Speaker 5: Call yeah, I had a ticket to the ninety eight Grand Final. I was in Melbourne and I didn't go. What I gave the ticket to a made of mine. Why I only had one ticket? Well, my ex wife and I were there, all married, obviously, and i'd been covering the ninety eight election campaign. I've been out on the road following John Howd and Kim Beasley around Australia for three weeks, and as luck would have it, she ended up in Melbourne for a conference on the same weekend that I ended up there, traveling with Kim Beasley. And we're there for the Grand Final weekend and I've got a ticket. But I hadn't seen my wife for three weeks, and I thought, well, fair enough, I can't really just say sorry, I'm going to the footage. Yeah, so we went to a friend's house and watched it. It ended up being a really really good day. Fair enough. We got to kick out of a restaurant that night in Brunswick Street. What'd you do? For some weird reason, I made of mine decided to wrap an entire roll of toilet paper around my head and I came walking out of the toilet like a mummy, singing, We're the Pride of South Australia. That'll do it. And at that point they said, can you please leave our we'll do it every time this weekend and sucked in because we're premiers after six?
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Speaker 4: Were your stories of being unlocked? And maybe Majro Inferno the restaurant was called now right good to give him a shout out. See it all paid paid off for them in the long run. Uh, playing the long game there. Maybe every time you go to the footy, did they just lose? Maybe you're the Maybe you are the the you know the ornament of doom when it comes to the Adelaide Football Club.
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Speaker 5: Kate wore the wrong socks last Friday. Oh no, that'll do it, thanks Kate. Yeah, I know, I know. She eve got to the bottom of white. She's been crestfalling about that.
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Speaker 4: Are you the most unlucky Adelaide Crows fan? If you are, and if you judge that way, by nine o'clock this morning, we'll get you tickets to the game on Friday nights. You get calling now eight double two three double oh double. That comp's going to run right throughout the morning. You can text us too on the Police Home Care text line.
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Speaker 3: More David Penberthie and Will Gooding's five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 4: And it's after six, asking for your stories of hard luck as a Crows fan. We want to find the unluckiest Crows fan, a series of unfortunate events that have befallen you in your attempt to watch your football seam win games of forty let us know eight double two three double o double we might be trying. We might turn your luck around and the Crows in the process, and send you along on Friday night, Mark in Roseworthy. You've got a story of being unlucky?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you good guys.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: My family and myself were from the river Land, but we had I had a younger brother who poor health, and since the inception of the Crows, my parents always out of pity for him, that bought him a Crow's ticket every year. They went to the ninety seven Grand Final with him, and in ninety eight they decided not to go, but he used the three tickets to purchase three tickets to his Grand Final. Now I wanted to get one off of him, because they're not really his tickets the first parents, but he wanted to four hundred dollars for any offered him one hundred and fifty got them for about eighty five, and he wouldn't sell them to me. It's about five years ago. I found out a guy came up to me from the river and he bought the ticket. How happy he was He's paid one hundred and twenty pucks from my brother didn't come back to meet to me one hundred and twenty when they coudn't sell four hundred.
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Speaker 5: That's done. Unlucky mate, that's family few. I was going to say, you being scalped, scalped by your own flesh and blood? Yeah, what about that? Amazing? That's shocking Mark. Thank you.
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Speaker 4: I guess it's unlucky to agree, Isn't it lucky your brother ended up with the three tickets? I guess eight double two to three double o double a Adelaide's unluckiest crows fair tell us your stories?
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Speaker 5: What about how good mate Rob? On the other side of the football divide, he says. In twenty seventy, and drove to Melbourne for the Grand Final. I got there about three am on the day. I stayed awake, watched the game and then I thought, well this sucks, and then I drove straight back to Adelaide. Is the ciber winds. It is a long and annoying day.
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Speaker 4: Thank You's here before eight zero eight Thurday ninety five is the policeime text line. It is spring, it is megpie swooping season. Has anyone been swooped yet? Have you nominated any hot spots? Doctor Grone Cleary is the author of Why the Birds Sing and joins us on five Double Breakfast to shed some expert advice on this issue. Doctor Cleary, Good morning to you.
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Speaker 8: Good morning to you. Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 5: Not at all, so, doctor Clearic, is there a simple answer that is they're just protecting the young? Is that it.
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Speaker 8: Exactly so during these you know, till the end of October, that's young in the nest, that's eggs on the nest, and that's all that's happening now, only like ten percent of magpie swoop and if they are, you know, there is reports in the media that it's been particularly bad this year. But we're cutting down the bleeding trees going to nest and then you have two big daddies fighting over the one nest, you know, because one of them lost they're tree last year, so there might be more competition that might just be winding them up a bit more.
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Speaker 5: Makes perfect sense.
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Speaker 4: What's sort of if you know there's a swooping magpie in an area, nee you what's the sort of safe distance you can pass by?
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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, make friends with your magpie throughout the year, so we're all very aware of them during swooping season. And it's all like a comment from the Skies Australia. Beware you know it's a little bit extreme, lads. The main thing is isn't get to know your magpie. Magpies are incredibly intelligent and they're not going to swoop you if they don't have to. I mean, they don't want to hurt that beat against your big head. You better be doing other things. So make friends throughout the year to remember voices. They really do, so just give a little whistle, just give acknowledgment. Magpies stay in the area throughout the year, so it's the same magpie you know that will nest and you know swoop will be there all year. And one that knows you're not attracted, Once that knows you are a friend, it won't swoop you. I swear to god, you have people going in an instid. I talked to my magpie, never be swooped. I feed my magpipes. It's about show respect to your neighboring magpie.
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Speaker 5: They are incredibly smart animals, and is it what's the there's a bit of a debate about whether you should feed them or not, whether you should give them a bit of bit of mate, bit of left either mince or a bit of even dry dog food that you've moistened with some water. Doctor Cleary, what's your own stance on it? Because aren't they technically insectivores?
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Speaker 8: So they are, but that we like to layel We like to put things into night builnique boxes, and birds like magpies and lower key will jump out those boxes all the time and eat different things. Yes, so that is a really important connection people have with magpies. Just beware of what you're feeding them. Things like mince meat is a highly pro stuff and not great. Think about things like mealworms or rolled oats or soaked dark biscuits, like you said, if you're going to feed, and only feed small amounts. But it is a It is a good way to definitely make sense with your magpies fastly your nervous of them.
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Speaker 5: Have you been on a personal journey ductor clearing from the other side out of the world where you've come to Australia and fallen in love with our wildlife.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, your birds. It was your birds, that gotee and your magpie. I was like, hell, I'll never going home joke lead and how sparrows. You've got real birds out here.
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Speaker 5: Interview. I'm going to get your book to you. I'm a bird now. I've just caught it up online. Why the bird Sing with a beautiful picture of a couple of warbling Maggie's on the.
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Speaker 8: Front back exactly. I was like, I want me bleeding magpie on the cop of this book. I demanded it. You have surprisingly little control over what happens.
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Speaker 9: To your book.
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Speaker 8: Was yet give it to the big publishers, But I was like, no, what magpies?
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Speaker 5: No, no megpies, no book. I'll tell you what exactly.
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Speaker 4: We're going to be giving a cane eye for more bird related stories in future. Don't cleary to be able to get you on again. That was terrific. It was too lovely to chat with you. Thanks for your time.
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Speaker 8: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 5: I love your magpies out of legs, clearly athor of wider birds sing. It's one of the best interviews we've ever done. A passionate expert. Yeah, how good was she? That was terrific. I like I like their attitude of the feeding of magpies as well, because you get something like kind of form of abuse. But magpie is like like all birds adapt in. I mean, look at the look at the mangy old sacred ibis. There's nothing that they won't eat. It's flourishing. Half a whopper junior that'll do perfect. Yeah, a bit of leftover kebbab, yeah, as it got garlic saws on. Yes, good, I'm eating that. Well, those things are filthy. But you know, good points she made about raw meat, process meat, but the tip about the dried powdery dog food and moisten it and not overfeeding them. But if we sing them a bit of stuff down and they cover the lawn and they're so community minded and smart and they don't get scared after a while, they just look at you. They're great.
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Speaker 4: Tim on the police, samecare text signs there's just another unfair advantage to Collingwood. There's Magpie season every September. Good point, Tim.
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Speaker 5: You know I actually thought of asking it. Please. This has been such a great interview. Don't tell us about it for Collingwood.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you couldn't bring yourself to We'd like growing your cleary too much.
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Speaker 5: I didn't want the interview to end on us our note.
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Speaker 4: Alex says, Guys, every Saturday, for the last five weeks, the sixth hole at the Compass golf Course, we've been swooped. That's great local information, Alex. Anyone else has got any hotspots for us? Let us know zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five. We can call us an eight double two three double O double A. We'll be checking in with the bureau a little bit later this morning about when the rain is coming, because we're going to get some today. It's cool out there at the moment seven point five degrees not icye, but compared to what we've had the last a week or so, that's a cool start. In fact, only Perth and Hobart cooler in Australia at the moment. Top of nineteen to eight two to fifteen mills of rain. We had fifteen meals of rain forecast two months ago. We would have done the entire program again about it. Two to fifteen meals of rain forecast today. The original the forecast first in this morning was suggesting late this afternoon and into the evening for that rain. So we'll get the latest from the bureau shortly tomorrow. Three to fifteen meals of rain, so lots of rain on the way the next twenty four hours. Top of fifteen tomorrow it will be cool. Remains cool on Thursday sixteen in the expected top with a drizzle around same two for Friday Friday night. Let's have a look at that slight chance of a shower most lightly in the morning, so Friday night will be clear and good for forty Saturday nineteen and very pleasant, mostly sunny Sunday, even more pleasant twenty two. They expected top on Sunday and mostly sunny and then just what the doctor ordered. Back to raining again for the working week twenty one and up to fifteen meals of rain on Monday for a very very spring. Fifteenth of September, Tom Rins in the five to Blay breakfast studio with us call glider ole now order a new door with operator before the end of September. Received two extra handsets.
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Speaker 10: Morning you ready, Morning will morning David. Yeah, it looks like it's got to be good for the football, which is great news. On Friday, bit of rain before and after big training session tonight, Shelley, we know, all attention got to be on whether or not he's okay with that knee injury. Hasn't played since round seventeen. What's your male, Tom, Well, he's.
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Speaker 5: A touch player, you know.
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Speaker 4: I don't think he was one of the players that's had the flu.
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Speaker 5: That's right. So the flu has been through the whole squad with.
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Speaker 4: Some head colds and well man alex Billbullen was slated to be the Crow's media guy. Yesterday they canceled him. They canceled him. Patty spoke to him and he said, I'm not going to be able to come in this week. I'm not good.
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Speaker 5: Really. Well, you know what before the game last Friday, Jim's mates with someone who got made of a mate story. But my son, Jim's mates with Shelley's girlfriend's best friend or something. And he got a text before the game saying, apparently Phil Forpe's got bad flu. Yeah, he was a late test it turned out, yeah, and I was that's just scuttle, but that's big footage scuttle. But but it turns out there was something in it for one hundred percent.
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Speaker 10: Well, it's often the week after it ken Linger as you got. I mean, we've all been crawky. Everyone out there, you know, it's thing has been crooks. So you just hope they're able to recover because it's cexeral bust now, isn't It's there's no more chances in terms of free agency. The silly season will start, you know when it started already. It goes all year round. It looks like the Crows have missed out on Sam Draper. He's going to go to Brisbane. That's been reported overnight, Happy, sad, indifferent.
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Speaker 4: I was particularly motivated about bringing in a second ruck minute high coin after coming off an achilles injury because.
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Speaker 10: A bit the same. And look, I like the way Sam Draper. I like his passion, the way it goes about it. But I don't think it's the.
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Speaker 5: End of the world. I never know who he plays for.
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Speaker 10: Bombers were going very well, so we no And look that's not entirely his fault.
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Speaker 5: They've had.
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Speaker 10: They've just been ravaged by injury this year. But that's sort of breaking overnight and the other thing that looks like it's going to come in next year. I think they're being a bit half pregnant if they do it this way is it looks like they're going to go with the last touchout of bounds like the sample, but they're only going to do it between the arcs. I think they could be even more confusing for the umpires with the ball go out.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, they're going to have to review which part of the.
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Speaker 10: Half of the right over the pain of the fifty.
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Speaker 5: So it's last disposal.
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Speaker 10: So if it's a handball or a kick, and a lot of people out there would be, you know, familiar with it in the sample, so it's last disposal. So if it's a handball or if it's a kick, not if it's off hands or you know.
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Speaker 5: It takes all the deliberate calls out exactly. Yeah, I hate seeing fans deliberate. Yeah, it's the most pathetic thing to scream out, isn't it.
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Speaker 4: Well, especially when it's clearly not by the rule, Like every time it goes out, everyone just yells deliberate.
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Speaker 10: And it's gone more and more towards basically last touch anyway.
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Speaker 5: So this would have limited a good rule change. It is a good rule change. It's brilliantly in the sandful. I love it.
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Speaker 10: The only thing is, though, I think if you've got to do it, don't just do it between the arcts.
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Speaker 5: Do it everywhere, you know. The other thing that they should go out becomes a skill error. It's in play for longer. It's just better. It's a better product. The other thing they should take out of the essay and a film. Stop paying stupid freeze all the time.
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Speaker 4: The great thing about it, well, the finals they call it like it's a samdful game.
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Speaker 5: It's amazing. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: The Crow's Collingwood game was a prime example of that. In the Thursday night was they switched the they switched the umpiring to finals mode, and certainly it was like you get head ripped off to get a free kick.
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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but it's way bet at it at stut Glenog. I mean, one of the great things about that game part from the result, but the first ninety seconds I was with Dad because we went together for Father's Days. Great fun and there would have been three freeze already in the AFL. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, good on your ready, good on your thanks boys.
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Speaker 3: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 4: Twenty four minutes to seven. Are you Adelaide's unluckiest Crows fan. If you are your luck might be about to change. We've got tickets to the door Die Clash on Friday night, Crows Hawthorne. If you've got a story for us about being unlucky, Maybe you're an unlucky charm. Maybe you've got it wrong in the past and the Crows have lost. Maybe you've missed out on tickets or a big game, whatever it might well be. If your Adelaide's unluckiest Grows fan, give us a call eight double two to three double O, double O, and it could be you getting along on Friday night. You can textas to police same care text line. But if your call that puts you in prime position to win the tickets.
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Speaker 5: Well. Yet again, for the second time in barely two years, the issue of late term abortions has flared on North Terrace. This time not from within the Liberal Party. It is the former One Nation MP Sarah Game, who is bringing in a private member's bill trying to limit access to abortion after twenty three weeks in South Australia. This would be your windback of the laws which we're championed. With some internal controversy for the libs by the former Attorney General, doctor Vicki Chapman during the life of the Marshall Liberal government. Well, in a pretty forceful statement, the Royal Australian co of GPS in South Australia has come out and said that these proposed changes would impinge on what they regard as a form of essential health care that cannot be reduced to arbitrary rule set by politicians. Doctor Claire Kyo heads up the SA College of GPS and we have her on the line now, doctor key. Oh, are you surprised at having looked at this once so recently that the Parliament's going back to have another crack.
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Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, I am surprised. I think you know, this bill in particular was discussed and abortion was fully legalized in twenty twenty one. We saw the ben Hood Bill last year that threatened to restrict late term abortions and now we're seeing it again. Really, this conversation needs to be had between the pregnant person and their doctor as well as yes, a pregnant person, somebody with a uterus capacity for pregnancy, well that could include non binary people as well and people of other agendas, so you know, regardless the person he's pregnant is their decision to make, and it needs to be made informed with their clinician.
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Speaker 4: So if I'm just trying to imagine, if there was no an absence of politics in this who they're trying to nail down a time frame no abortion and after twenty three weeks for example, in this particular bill, what is it the medical fraternities desire just to have a total discretion on a case by case basis. Is that the best practice from your perspective.
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Speaker 11: Well, we already have a bill in place that says that after twenty three weeks, two doctors need to sign off on the abortion, which is there because of course it's a late term abortion. These cases are highly complex and highly personal. They're not very common. So in the vast majority abortions happened before twenty three weeks. If they're happening after twenty three weeks, there's usually some very complex reasons for that. That might be medical, that might be mental health reasons, that could be complex social reasons including you know, family and domestic violence into a partner violence, you know, assault situations. Regardless, I think by arguing it in you know, politics, we're trivializing the situation, and we're saying, you know, we can restrict the decisions that you make with your body and your pregnancy. By putting further restrictions in, it makes this unsafe. People will seek abortions regardless of whether they're fully legalized or not. We need to make it accessible for everybody.
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Speaker 5: Thank you for that, doctor Claire Keyo. I'll tell you well, I reckon this university academic Joanna Howe. I think in the fullness of time it might emerge that she's a labor plant there to destroy the Liberal Party. She does a good job of distracting from the job of being an opposition, doesn't she How does she get back into the parliament too? She's going to be advising on the laws because wasn't she banned and entering certain parts of the building because of her Maybe that expulsion has exposed. Yeah, it's like four weeks. Yeah, worked on it. I don't sound like a redneck, but cricky are We're at a point where even the head of the GPS organization can't use the term woman to describe someone who's pregnant. I just after that I checked out of that interview. I couldn't stop thinking about that. I just thought, look crying out loud, that's just you know, women have very unique qualities and you and I will have had the absolute privilege of marveling at watching our wives go through living hell to give birth. I reckon, there's a bike. We can say, let's just doff our caps to them on that front and say that that's something unique that belongs to their agenda.
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Speaker 4: It's a fine line between inclusive and exclusive language and if if anyone's a woman, no one's a woman.
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Speaker 5: Yeah totally and yeah, well it's like that crap the other day that a parliamentary committee specifically tasked with the job of looking at the question of miscarriage, like, you couldn't get anything more innately female than that, and they stopped to recognize that when they use the term women, they were also aiming to include trans women, that is, men who've become women. Now there's a logical argument that they should have stopped to acknowledge trans men, because at least a trans man can say, well, I've got to eat it, so it used to be a woman. But that's the thing. People who think they're progressive, they actually end up alienating potential mainstream supporters with that sort of garbage.
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Speaker 4: There's big development in Europe this morning. French lawmakers have voted to oust Prime Minister Francois by Rue. This is extraordinary because this would have been to be the fourth prime minister in about two years now. He's an incredibly unstable political situation there at the moment, and it's not as though it was a close vote. Three hundred and sixty four MPs voted against him, one hundred and ninety four voted for him. And now Emmanuel Macron needs to find a prime minister from an increasingly fractured parliament where centrist candidates are just being regularly outed. It's fascinating to see where it goes from here. No one will know better in Australia than our next scares doctor Romain Parti, an experted a and you in French politics, Doctor Farti, good morning to you.
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Speaker 12: Good morning Will, Good morning David, and Boru to the audience.
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Speaker 4: So I mean, where will Emmanuel Macron find a palatable prime minister to the left and right, given it seems being a centrist isn't necessarily a prescription for a long term at the moment.
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Speaker 12: Well, I was going to say, if you want the job, it's for a taking. You don't needs to be you don't need to be a citizen. Anyone who is over I think twenty one can be appointed. But all the old jokes aside, it's going to be very difficult and he needs to act very promptly because in a couple of days there is a new French movement that is about to emerge after the Yellow Vest. There is a block everything movement. Look it up.
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Speaker 5: Blooke to look like everything everything.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, and you know there's been a few accounts from Iran and Russia to try to pressure on social media. But the bottom line is that Macom and the Ministry of the Interior is a bit worried because if you don't have a prime minister and you've got hundreds of thousands of people in the street, it doesn't look good.
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Speaker 13: Now.
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Speaker 12: To go back to your question about who is going to appoint, that's the twenty billion dollar question at the moment, because if that person is a known political figure, regardless of whether they're moderates or from the moderate left, moderate right of center, I'm not sure they're going to manage to rule because political parties won't want to work work with a known political figure, so he might just appoint someone who's completely unknown. But it was a good technical expert.
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Speaker 5: Do you think, doctor Fathi that in the case of France, rather than this being a uniquely French phenomenon, we're actually seeing a bit of a worldwide trend where people are now less loyal, less rusted on to the parties that they traditionally supported. We're seeing, and we're just coming off the back of a bit of a Culture Wars conversation on our program. We're seeing a splintering of conservative parties into sort of more progressive conservatives and more hardline conservatives on culture Wars issues, on environment, mental issues like Japan's just knocked off its PM Kean starmer in England is if an election was held this Saturday, he would lose, but the Tories probably wouldn't win. Is politics falling apart in a traditional sense.
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Speaker 12: Well, it's maybe, I think.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 12: The first question to look at is are or institutions in films fit for the twenty first century? Some people would say no. France in seventeen eighty nine is at twelve different constitutional regimes. Australia is at once since nineteen oh one, the US one since seventeen eighty seven or before that. France goes from crisis to crisis, and instead of making the constitution, change a just change a constitution. And we at the moment we're in the fifth Republic, that is the fifth constitution under republican regime, and some people have been calling for the sixth Republic for a little while, including France Gaberhon and by these he means that we need more democracy within the democracy, and that's a problem we've get to lead with. If we give people the right to vote and to express their opinion, we must agree to respect the choice that comes out of that. And at the moment, as you've pointed out, there are a number of countries where you know what used to be broadly it alternate between labor and the liberal moderate left to moderate right back and forth that at all no longer pleases most citizens. And in France it's a clear case where if you rule at the center like Macon has done, then what happened is that your moderate left and your moderate right disappear, but you strengthen the far left and the far right. At the moment in France, The principal forces of opposition to manue In Macon are not the left of the right. They are the far right and the far left.
00:29:27
Speaker 5: Is it a bit of a city country story? Sorry? Is it a bit of a city country story in France as well?
00:29:35
Speaker 12: It used to be, you know, that's that's that would the way you would analyze the elections. Thirty years ago, when Marie Lupin's dad was rising, it was, you know, the fear of the immigrant in places where they're no migrants whatever. These days it's very different. Actually, the national rally of Marie Lupin is getting votes everywhere, including in areas that were formerly communist. How does that happen? You know, from the farest to far right. So there's a lot of protest voter as well, people who go, well, I'm not happy, so I'll just vote for the extremes, regardless of what they are. But it's real deal done because if they get enough vote, they will get in.
00:30:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, great analysis, don't farty. That was fascinating. It's my main party. The a U expert in French politics that the most recent trigger for this was a fifty one billion dollar Australian austerity bill. Essentially they were saving money, but it included the scrapping of two public holidays. I reckon if you wanted to no longer be the Prime Minister of Australia, you could nominate scrapping two public holidays as well.
00:30:40
Speaker 5: I think we should talk to film and travel. I think we need to go to France to get there's the bottom of this. Yeah, I think that ab in the south of France. Yeah, Somemer and Provence. This is a responsible you know, come on just after the cheese couse exactly right. Let's check traffic.
00:30:54
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00:30:57
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will good five double a breakfast.
00:31:01
Speaker 4: Height to seven Chris, morning, suns up. Looks fantastic outside. There is rain on the way. Mark Anelac at the weather Bureau joins us Mark, when do you think it's going to get here?
00:31:10
Speaker 6: Good morning guys. Well, after a chilly start of just five point five degrees this morning, I think we will see some showers increasing through the afternoon. We might start to see our first spots or two aren about very late this morning or around midday, we might see a spot or two developing, but most of the shower activity is expected to move across the Adelaide area this afternoon and overnight tonight of nineteen degrees seven point three degrees.
00:31:37
Speaker 4: Good you make Thank you Marke AAA at the Weather Bureau. It's head to save poles and your Constable Matt Hale joins us Matt. A fatal light plane crash on the air Peninsula.
00:31:47
Speaker 14: Yes, good morning's very sad, but about one's thirty Yesterday a police responded to a late planned crash in a puddock at Yolana, just north of Cummons. Sadly, the pailot, thirty six year old Port Lincoln man, died at the scene. He was the only person on board and major crash investigators from the Police Side Attendant and the Australian Transport Safety Bureau will be conducting a full investigation of the incident and a coroner's report will be submitted.
00:32:17
Speaker 5: It's already said story Matt, and the nixt one's a cautionary tile. Isn't a bit stealing technology or stealing anything that's got technology in it. So a GPS tracking device has helped track a stolen them iPad with four people arrested.
00:32:31
Speaker 14: Yes, Sam, a really good story and a bad circumstances obviously, But just after three am this morning, please attended and address and Exeter after thieves allegedly broke into a park car and stole on iPad and other items of property from inside that car. Fortunately, as you say, the owner had GPS GPS tracking app on the device not led or police to a hotel at Grand Junction Road in Pennington. Four men were found in the car park there and searched, and the police located that stone an iPad also of interest. The men had battle claves and breaking tools in the backpack. They were all arrested in charge with a range offenses including theft, going equipped to break into places and carrying articles of disguise. One man was refused police build I'm a front court later today in Port Adelaide. The others were build to next month. This is just a great result and all like, I just love it. The owner's property got returned to him. He probably thought he would never see it again, so it's awesome. It really shows those benefits of GPS tagging or using apps on your bloggings, especially stuff that costs a bit of money.
00:33:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, title. Good on you met Hoile, they send you howl from Cipol.
00:33:48
Speaker 4: You may have come across the over the top and bombastic high fire salesperson who explains to you that this new speaker system can blow the roof off. Well, unfortunately, I next case, Shinehi Horrek, who owns Confession nightclub in Port Adelaide, has found out that that might not just be hyperbole. His venue suffered significant damage when it was loaned out to a group who managed to both damage and then brag about the damage that their sound system cause. Shane joins us on five Double a Breakfast. Now, Shane, good morning to you.
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Speaker 15: Good morning.
00:34:22
Speaker 4: So you booked in it was a sort of almost like a mini festival.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, So we have a venue in Port Adelaide and people book it for events and functions, and we've had a group of people that have booked the venue a few times in the past to feature their sound systems they've created, and they've done so in the past in a really respectful manner and that changed on the weekend.
00:34:46
Speaker 5: So, Shane, my understanding from what the TiSER reported was that not only did they really crank the sound, but they actually filmed it and there was one bit where the base was pumping so hard that bricks were actually coming in the walls of your business.
00:35:03
Speaker 15: Yes, So I actually had returned to the venue. I'd been out and about and I returned to the venue on Friday around five thirty pm, and I was in my car and hadn't yet gotten out of the car yet, and at that point they started doing the sound test, and I was like, what on earth is that? And I could even feel the car vibrating. And I didn't realize that until after the event that they had actually filmed the sound test. In the video, it shows them yeah, playing the music, turning it up, and then you could see damage getting happening at that moment in the venue. And instead of stopping the test, they continued the test going and started pointing and laughing about it. Yeah, and then yeah and after and then after they created the video, they then shared it widely on Facebook and social media to promote the damage and promot what the system was capable of.
00:35:58
Speaker 5: We're playing it now on our livestream so that our listeners who are also viewers, can see. Out of interest shame, what sort of music were they playing? Was? It? Was it like heavy metal? Death metal or was it Duff Duff techno?
00:36:10
Speaker 15: It was, it was definitely what would be your viewers or listeners would call the d Duff variety. So it's heavy bass, heavy dance music, and it's definitely popular within youth culture.
00:36:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, unbelievable. I wonder if that people who were actually there sustained damage to their ears, because if there were bricks falling out of the walls. I can't remember seeing Lou Read years ago in Sydney and it was this thing called the Night of Noise, but they legally forced you all to wear ear plugs on arrival because they said if you don't, your ears are going to blow up. They were they inside listen to this nonsense.
00:36:48
Speaker 15: Well, to put it into contact with you. A Ferrari can go over three hundred comets now, but doesn't mean you drive it at that speed on the road.
00:36:56
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:36:56
Speaker 15: Most sound systems, all sound systems can cause damage pretty much depending on how you use it. In the sound test, they only had their they only had the people that were working with their crew doing the sound test, where clearly they pushed the sound system far above and beyond what is safe for people to listen to within that sound test, but also safe for our building, and obviously damage had occurred after that.
00:37:26
Speaker 13: We've made it.
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Speaker 15: Clear that if they are to continue like they had in the past, that they need to be able to monitor the sound levels. We had then worked with them to set what would be the limit of sound levels for the event. Throughout the event, the levels did creep up, nothing to the level of what was done at that sound test, but we had to had a battle throughout that event that keep telling the people running the event to turn it down, turn it down. That aside, at all events we always like as a venue, we've always got ear plugs available for patrons, as does the event organize. But still one shouldn't have to think, you know what, should I have to put earplugs in to protect my ears. And one other thing that's probably good to identify is that a lot of the sounds I'm no audio engineer, but a lot of the sound that was created was an extremely low frequency, which is something you more feel rather than here. So that said, you know, anything that's going to cause that much volume and lower frequencies will damage, will damage property.
00:38:27
Speaker 5: It's a building, okay, Shane's a beautiful old port Adelaide building.
00:38:30
Speaker 15: Yeah, so it's a church built in the eighteen seventies and so that's why we called it Confession because obviously on them with the church and the building is okay. We've got a cracked window and a bunch of mortar that needs to be fixed, and some screws that have come out of some plaster, and a few broken glasses that are viobrated off shelves and so on. So we've actually got builders in there today starting the rectification work. So look, the building is extremely strong. More just you know things that you know, mortar and other bits and pieces that have come loose that we just need to repair.
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Speaker 4: What of pain Shane, Thanks for chatting with Shane Hahrreck, the Confession nightclub founder and owner five Double A. News is coming up. On the other side of it. We've got a whole bunch of unlucky Crows fans that may well, by nine o'clock this morning be considered the unluckiest if that is you well, and this morning you are in fact lucky because we're going to give you tickets to the Crow's Hawthorne.
00:39:27
Speaker 5: Final on Friday night.
00:39:29
Speaker 4: Are you Adelaide's unluckiest Crows fan, tell us your stories.
00:39:33
Speaker 5: Eight double two three double o double.
00:39:34
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 4: It's ten after seven and good morning two if you're joining us for the first time on this Tuesday, the ninth of September. The sun is up, beautiful morning, cool morning, some rain on the way a little bit later today and tomorrow before We're got a magnificent weekend ahead, so perfect week really. Friday Night footy of course, stands above all else in the focus of Crows fans. This week and this morning, we have tickets to give away to the big game. Like last week, when we look for the loudest, the smartest and the most colorful Crows fans, this morning we're looking for the most unlucky, the unluckiest Crows fan. What is your story of woe? When have you missed out on tickets? When have you only seen losses? When have you been the dark homen turning up at Crows games? Let us know because it might be you who's luck changes, and let's be honest, we want to see the Crow's luck change as well. Eight double two three double double is the number. Let's start in Seaford Meadows, Greg, why are you Adelaide's unluckiest Crows fan?
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Speaker 16: For the nineteen ninety eight Grand Final. My dad was lucky enough to get some spared extra tickets down at West Lakes. He rang me to let me know. Unfortunately I wasn't home at the time. We didn't have mobile phones, and Dad, being as impatient as what he was, he decided to sell that ticket in the car and drive to Melbourne.
00:41:01
Speaker 5: You are kidding, Gregarious.
00:41:06
Speaker 16: Talk to him for about six months?
00:41:11
Speaker 5: Only six months. You're forgiving soul, Greg Kroky. I don't think we would have never spoken of.
00:41:17
Speaker 4: A family fracturing event. Thank you, Greg. Let's go to Barry. Well are you Adelade's unluckiest Crows fan?
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Speaker 5: Barry?
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Speaker 17: We went to the Grand Final in ninety seven. Ninety eight was another couple, then twoths and seventeen were you went? And I said to the grand daughter either carple tunnel operation and I couldn't drive, So my wife and granddaughter drove and I said we better go to battle Ratte and stay there and catch the training. And it was an unlucky game. We got beaten and so we had to come back. Dad laid with the tails between our leagues and I haven't been to the game since we're gold members and we had the four feet the membership because we had to have what do you call them?
00:42:27
Speaker 5: Were your scarred for life? Barry?
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Speaker 4: I think anyone who got tickets to Turzen and seventeen can count themselves unlucky. Frankly, that's right, thank you included eight double two three double o double. Oh why are you Adelaide's most unlucky Crows fan? You could be getting along on Friday night to see the Crows take on Hawthorne if if we adjudge you to be the unluckiest. Well, after we got off here yesterday a sentence was handed down for mushroom cook Aaron Patterson, a life imprisonment with a non parole period of thirty three years, which for the record books then doesn't include her in that very very small category of people we were speaking about yesterday who have received life without parole. John Ferguson has been covering her trial from the beginning for The Australian and joins us on five double a breakfast now, John, good morning to you.
00:43:16
Speaker 18: Yeah, good morning boys.
00:43:17
Speaker 5: So John, it must have been such a remarkable experience having a front row seat for one of the biggest trials not just Australia, but the world has ever seen. Can I just get your thoughts first, mate, on the demeanor of Erin Patterson, Like you've seen her in the flesh, how would you describe her? What does she come across like?
00:43:42
Speaker 18: Look, Pamba, she's incredibly arrogant, She's very odd person. She's almost the word I use is almost imperious. I think she thinks she's just better than pretty much everyone, smarter than everyone. She is intellect leave bright, she's very well read. But yeah, look, I just think she's superior. I think she's the best word. Really, probably is odd. It's just I've never really seen or dealt with a person like it, and yesterday they didn't really the defense didn't hand up you know, psychological analysis or anything like that. But there's a whole lot going on there that frankly, we just don't know about.
00:44:31
Speaker 5: Were you surprised that she's got even a glimmer of parole? I mean three people thirty three years, what will she be eighty one potentially when she gets out? Was there a bit of a sense because you guys have all been cooped up together covering this trial for months. Yes, was there a sort of hunch or a tip as to what the ballpark figure would be.
00:44:52
Speaker 18: That was pretty much where I thought it was going to land, because the judge Christopher Beale Peel at the last hearing how expressed real concerns about the conditions she was being kept in. Basically he raised the question of whether it was inhumane the way she was being treated, and that's said into the sentence. So I thought, basically, that's roughly what she would get. It's pretty much the same as what there was a guy called Farkuson who some of your listeners might remember drive a car into a damn and killed his three. Yeah, yes, he got thirty three years non parole. I just checked that up this morning.
00:45:37
Speaker 9: So look, the.
00:45:39
Speaker 18: Reality of a parole being in the sentence doesn't mean you get it like she's you know, so she's going to have to behave herself. And also we don't know what's thinking on the day, Like when you think of people like, for instance, Robert Long who did the children's backpacks killings, remember a lot twenty years twenty five years ago, but he's he got a twenty year non parole period. But he's delian and the mood is that he's probably not going to get out rapidly, So you know she's going to have to work really hard to get out when she's eighty one.
00:46:20
Speaker 4: John, she's got twenty eight days to lodge an appeal. What are you hearing with regard to whether she'll do that? And do we know even if there is an appeal about whether it be with regard to the sentence or the conviction itself.
00:46:32
Speaker 18: Well, we don't know the details of any appeal, but I'm told there will be an appeal, and so she will have a crack at it. But see, the judge was very, very cautious and in virtually everything he did, it was almost as if he was looking ahead to a potential appeal. And so the grounds we don't know yet. We don't even know who's going to run the appeals in her legal sense. So my tip on that one is that she might struggle to get an appeal up, but she is going to have.
00:47:09
Speaker 5: A crack on top. John, that piece you wrote yesterday in the OS, I thought it was remarkable about the one person who was standing by her, her mystery friend. What can you tell us about that lady.
00:47:19
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, it's really intriguing Pambeau. Basically, this woman, whose full name is actually Ali Rose Pryor, she attended all the quarter in Marwall in La Tree Valley during the trial, and she's an online friend, one of Aaron's Patterson's online friends. Now she's been given power of attorney. I think she's the only person outside the lawyers that Aaron Patterson has got in her life at the moment. I think pretty much everyone has peeled off her because of what's happened. She's very isolated. I mean, you know, in some ways, you'd be a hard heart not to think that it's pretty sad how her life has ended because she's she's basically in a tiny jail cell next door to a terrorist who basically is causing terror in the prison system, and she's the only one that there in Paris can talk to. But yeah, so this this woman seems like a nice enough person, but has has stuck by her and it seems she also probably has the keys to, you know, what's left of Aaron's empire. I can only guess that's what's happened, because obviously Aaron Patters is not saying anything about it unbelievable.
00:48:44
Speaker 5: It must be. You must feel like you're in decompression now made after being keeped up in that court room for better part of six months.
00:48:51
Speaker 18: Oh yeah, Well, now I'm going to go out to poor Punko just for something completely different. That's the next thing. But well, I want to give you a little scoop here. Pattis was born in Adelaide, which is the fact you picked you guys picked up on that.
00:49:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, did We only found out later in the judgment. Yeah, it's incredible.
00:49:09
Speaker 18: Yeah, well it's it's interesting because she was a scatter and the family is quite wealthy. The grandmother was that left a lot of money behind. But I didn't realize that she was born in Adelaide until until that was mentioned in court.
00:49:26
Speaker 5: No, I don't think anyone did. There was there was the thing. So how Australia needs another linked to a notorious killer.
00:49:31
Speaker 18: But there you go, correct, well, and the other very quickly. Emily Perry, who was very famous. Yeah, well that she she played a role in the case. I'll try and dig it out for you, but she she she played a role in the Court of Appeal hearing. So Emily Perry, who who was a very controversial woman as well who lived in Adelaide for a while at least. So that's another local angle.
00:50:05
Speaker 5: Wow. Amazing hey, John, amazing coverage and thanks to you for coming on and sharing some of your insights. John Ferguson, the associate editor of The Australian long standing Victorian Bureau chief over there for the OS.
00:50:20
Speaker 4: Doesn't cover the small stories, John, does he. So he's off to poor punker as he said, which is the search for Dessi Freeman, which is alaid boy.
00:50:26
Speaker 5: He's from the Southeast originally. He was State political editor at the TiSER for many years under ex Jewry and worked with Greg Kelton and all the doy ends of Adelaide political journals.
00:50:36
Speaker 4: Notably, today is the start of the second week of the search for Dessi Freeman. It's been two weeks now since he went on the run. We got the tickets to give away to the game on Friday night. We're looking for Adelaide's most unlucky Crows fan. Anthony and McGill. Why do you think it's you?
00:50:53
Speaker 17: Hey?
00:50:53
Speaker 5: Going good? Thanks Anthony, it's good.
00:50:56
Speaker 1: Look I'm pretty unlucky. So twenty seven we were watching the Geelong prelim and you know, Adelaide smash them by sixty odd points, getting pretty excited. How to make give me a ten leg Maulti and the last leg was Adelaide to win the flag. Fifty bucks on this ten leg Malorti would have paid about ten grand at the end of the Grand Final had Adelaide one. So when we got off of tickets to the Grand Final, because we were, you know, frantically trying to get there, we sort of scoffed at the price of three and a half grand for two tickets for me and my wife. So I sort of stopped and thought about it for a second. Well, you know what, I at ten grand coming in at the end of this game, so away we went three and a half grand, jumping the car after work and it just didn't turn out to be our day, all the Crow's day for that.
00:51:49
Speaker 4: So not only did you watch your team get pulverized in a Grand final, they were heavy favorites for it, but the entire experience in a way cost you thirteen and a half thousand.
00:51:59
Speaker 1: I think telling everyone the teen green turnaround, So yeah, spot on, nine out of ten came through. Even Serena Williams got fill pregnant, were in that leg, and they.
00:52:09
Speaker 7: Avoided that leg.
00:52:11
Speaker 1: So the bet was still alive, but everything was coming up that it was coming through.
00:52:15
Speaker 4: You were lucky until you're unlucky, and then you got unlucky in a big way. That's a great story at today. That puts you in the running to win the tickets on Friday night. We haven't really talked through the logic yet of sending desperately unlucky people along to a door die final. But let's sit that to one side.
00:52:31
Speaker 5: Why isn't it like the statistician's joke, like at some point something you've got to give.
00:52:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's hope that's what is going to treads by Well check traffic. Let's not dwell on that get it outfit that will stop traffic at a great price. With Peter Sheerman's Wear.
00:52:46
Speaker 3: David Penberthie and Will Goodings, five Double A Breakfast.
00:52:50
Speaker 4: Twenty six minutes after seven The Senate inquiry into the Alga Blom kicks off today. The Shadow Minister for Water, Ross Cadell, joins us on five Double A Breakfast. Ross, good morning too, thanks for talking to us. What's first cab off? The rank for the inquiry and what are you hoping to get out of them?
00:53:06
Speaker 19: Yeah, first cap off the rate, we're down a sea cliff and we're going to be given a tool by one of the professors and just took about some of the sea life and some of these issues that have gone on locally on this side of the Gulf. So it will just be an informative thing to see how it's spreading, how it's going setting the tone, and really there's going to be a lot of senatency, I think it's five or six showing up a lot of interest in trying to get knock this on the head as quickly as we can. So it's really an informative thing for the first few days and look into few answers and a few ways we can help.
00:53:35
Speaker 5: How long is this inquiry expected to go? For ross?
00:53:40
Speaker 19: When I say it's short, it's not short in time. We're sitting every day this week. This is the first time I've done this ever on a Senate inquiry. Five days this week and then we're going to go to Camber here for them, some of the bureaucrats, some of the agency, some of the scientists in Canberra. But we're trying to get a report back very quickly to see what more we can do as a federal government. For all the time when we can't suspersions across the aisle about who's what. This is the government working as good as it can. This is this inquiry responsored by me and that Lives and Labor co sponsored as the Greens. Fact that everyone is coming together because we know what people are going through. When I went down to Port Wakefield, when I went to Sansbury and abbots and these things, we saw the dead fish, we saw what's happening. We took the view that you know, the state government sought like always it was always going to disappear or go away, because these things happen a bit. This is different. This is just like a drought on the farm.
00:54:31
Speaker 5: You can't do.
00:54:32
Speaker 19: Anything about it. It is there until we get we have something made just to clear it up and we've got to support.
00:54:37
Speaker 18: People through it.
00:54:39
Speaker 4: The terms of reference here essentially to provide a snapshot of where we're at, what the impact is and what the government can do or will you be making recommendations to the government in terms of potentially more support for affective businesses in South Australia.
00:54:54
Speaker 8: I will give you.
00:54:55
Speaker 19: I'm coming into this personally wanting to put more support on the ground. When you hear a oyster growers that the oysters are still alive, but he hasn't been able to sell them for one hundred and forty days because of the toxic inclusion in the OSes. Now they will fill throughout the bad things that they themselves can't be solved. When you talk to a Kalamari fisher who's down there and has a quota of seven tons for the season and he's caught at nine kilos, yeah, I'm going to I'm staying at Ardrossen Hotel themselves. I'm spending money where the people are suffering because I think we need to put some money back into these towns. But they've had cancelations for the summer, for November and December because people don't want to go there. We've got to get vouchers into these all the adelaides, all your listeners, put vouchers in their hands so they can go down there and have a holiday over thing, spend some time and still put money into these economies.
00:55:44
Speaker 5: That's what we want, one hundred percent well, said ross ross Cardell, national MP from New South Wales speaking perfect sense, there on behalf of our seafood industry ahead of the Senate inquiry.
00:55:55
Speaker 4: Well, we're going to take a break at five to blow. News is coming up Phil Curry on the other side of it in the Nation's but we'll talk about this week in politics. And then you notice we've got Jacob and Rob to tell us some tales of woe and make the case why they are Adelaide's unluckiest Crows fan. If it's you, you could be going along on Friday night. Plenty of time to call eight double two to three double O double the name.
00:56:17
Speaker 3: David Penberthie and world Goodings five double a breakfast.
00:56:21
Speaker 4: Twenty one minutes the way, we're off to the Nation's Capital, and just a moment Phil Curry from Australian Financial Review is going to join us. I think we've been sent an important text that's worth addressing here from Rick and Rick. We apologized to all involved in advance, but this is a good point, he says. Boys, do you realize that the irony that by searching for Adelaide's unluckiest Crows supporter, you are in fact compounding the misery for those unlucky supporters who don't win. Look, it's a great it's a great point. It's a good logical point, isn't it. It's an unfortunate byproduct of how we're giving away the tickets. That might be the definition of irony.
00:56:51
Speaker 5: Well, that's what Rix just just said. The great philosophical conundrum explored in the excellent movie Connie Ayrony. A bunch of reprobeats on a plane, dancing on a plane to a song that was written by a band that day on a plane. That's the definition of my irony. From John Malkovic Steve Beshimi, Steve, I think so yeah, it.
00:57:16
Speaker 4: Was eight double two three double o double. We'll send it that to one side. If you are Adelaide's unluckiest Crows fan and we want the Crow's luck to change and we want your luck to change, you could win tickets to get along on Friday night by calling in and telling us your story of wo eight double two three double o double let's head to camera. Phil Curry from the Australian Financial Review joins the sport of your.
00:57:36
Speaker 13: Felt mining fellas, I wouldn't mind complaining about finishing minor premiere.
00:57:42
Speaker 5: Where just want to win the final now film.
00:57:44
Speaker 13: We're having a closing downsale at Princess Back.
00:57:47
Speaker 5: Everything must go.
00:57:49
Speaker 13: Last one out turned off the light.
00:57:52
Speaker 5: You still got that same chairman too?
00:57:54
Speaker 13: Oh who knows? I stopped reading it every time open on the click online.
00:57:59
Speaker 5: We call it keen photographer he yes. Now. For months certain people in the Liberal Party have been suggesting that Justiner Price is a star higher, an excellent get for the Liberal Party. Are a few people getting buyer's remorse.
00:58:22
Speaker 13: Very much so. Look, I think at the time actually Dave when they just int across from the National Party. If you remember, after the election, the Liberals were locked in a fairly tight contest for the leader between Susan Lee and Angus Taylor, and a few days before they had the leadership ballot, the Conservatives in the Liberal Party announced with great fanfare that lewd just into across from the National Party. She'd been a National Senator, so she defected to the Liberals and she was going to be the deputy leader under Angus Taylor had he won. And they obviously it didn't work that it actually alienated a few people actually, including Liberal women, who thought, well, you know, well, wasn't one of us good enough? To be deputy. Anyhow, Taylor didn't get the leadership and Susan Lee did and I know that then just enter Price. You know, had she stayed in the National Party, she would be a member of the shadow Cabinet because then the National Party is entitled to these positions in the shadow cabinet. But as a as a new Liberal, she I think she's sort of like, oh, it's just a very low, low, low flung position, a junior front bencher. So she's you know, obviously gamble didn't pay off for her, and now now they're sort of she's making trouble and.
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Speaker 5: So these comments, she's not happy about it. Let's get into the comments. So she's she's talked about Indians. Too many Indians in Australia. Indians are coming in because they're all voting for the Labor Party.
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Speaker 13: She accused that. She was on ABC last week and she accused the government of favoring Indians as in the migration program buyers towards Indians because they all vote Labor, and both of those were completely wrong. There's no buyas towards Indians and there's certainly no evidence of the Indian community Labor. In fact, in my experience often association, especially the Indian business community, they tend to be much more proliber than labor.
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Speaker 5: So but why would she even go there? I mean, because you're an Indian person. What's the drama here?
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Speaker 13: Well, because there's been all this beaten up on Indians in the last week. You know, this was a few days after those those rallies, those migration rallies. She you know, she she does tend to sort of you know, play to that Margaret crowd, that Sky after Dark crowd. She made those comments they were wrong. And yeah, the Indian community is very big. There's nearly a million now in Australia, eight or nine hundred thousand. And as we've seen with the Chinese community day, they tend to hunting packs. You know that, they very well networked. They have their own sort of grape vine of social media and stuff like that, and they get very offended at things like that. And you know, the Liberal Party has over the last two elections probably concernedatively, lost ten seats because they've annoyed the Chinese Australian community. If you know, Victoria, New South Wales and so what a brilliant idea is now pick a fight with the next biggus des for the Indians. So this has got everyone really exercised inside the Liberal Party and for whatever reason, Price it's not only refusing. I mean, Loo, look, even if you may no offense by these things, think probably if your cause offense, you just go in And I'm really I didn't mean a cause offense. Let's move on. But her refusal to do that, it's now dragging into fifth day or something. He's just causing all sorts of problems. And you know, Susan Lee and all the senior shadow ministers had to spend the weekend out in Western Sydney, you know, with Indian communities, you know, and trying to patch things up. But she's Price went on Sky after dark last night and just now she's playing the victim card. She's claiming they're crawel to me because I'm a woman, and all this sort of stuff, and it's just looking.
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Speaker 5: Very very many I confess I would have been in the category of thinking just in the Price had star potential.
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Speaker 4: She cut through. She certainly carried the day on. It came to the Voice and so forth, and it looked like she had a whole heap of attributes and maybe she still will. But to me, Phil, she looks entirely captured by her Twitter algorithm because there is there is a threat if you if you're on that, it's impossible to sometimes disentangle Australian and American politics. And there is this big anti Indian migration pushback that's happening in the United States at the moment, But the circumstances of our country and there is with relation relation to Indias would seem to be entirely distinct from one another. And it feels like she's fighting this this American style war against you know, people don't like the Indian community. When I just don't get a sense that exists in Australia.
01:02:37
Speaker 13: It does to a point you don't have to look to to find it here either will.
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Speaker 4: But is it a part of the sort of blameonge of anti you know, anti any anti any other.
01:02:45
Speaker 13: So when people go on anty immigration raw.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but is it specific to Indians.
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Speaker 13: Oh, they were singled out of those rallies. Yeah, the week before by some groups, not everyone. But I think the point you make, the sort of broader point that she's been captured by this sort of marga right thing. This guy after dark thing. And what these people forget is you don't You don't have compulsory voting in the US, and I don't know how many times I've said it, and that's why you get sort of extreme governance where you don't. Australia does have compulsory voting. Everyone here votes, and that's why our politics is much more centrist. Look at Anthony Alvin. He went to that when he became Prime minister. He said to his party every day, we will be the party of the center. We must own the center. He got ninety four seats. The other mother went up and chased the Fringes's got twenty seven, right, So that tells you something. And yet they haven't seemed to have learned that lesson, and they're still chasing the fringes. And just to sort of look she is. She's not without talent, you know, I've spoken, I know sort of reasonably well, she's clever. But I think he's very young, she's very new, and she's been used a lot by people, and as you said, I think she's just sort of become beholden to that algorithm with cheers on every utterance.
01:03:55
Speaker 5: But she was a true student of conservative history. Wouldn't she look back to nineteen eighty I'm going to say five six, when John Howard made his ill fated and frankly terrible comments about Asians.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, eighty eight. Yeah that's right, I mean, and.
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Speaker 5: It hounded him for his entire career.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right. And as I said, you know, you've got the more recent example of you know, just just loose rhetoric has alienated, you know, the Chinese community from the Liberal Party. And once once, once the community takes a set against you, it takes a long long time to get it back. And we saw last term Peter Dutton sort of made huge, huge inroads into the Chinese community. And then five minutes before election day, Jane Hume, the Victorian Liberal senator, made a public comment about Chinese spies for helping a hand out vote your hand hand out how to vote cars for labor candidate, because there's his Chinese members of the community handing out for votes, handing out for labor candidates. And that caused a reparable damage. And the Liberals will tell you that at least the seat of Mendi's in Melbourne, which was held by Keith Wallahan, who was a brilliant young bloke who was widely tipped to be the next Liberal leader and Prime minister lost his seat on it because full of Chinese people he turned on him, even though he spoke spoke fluent Mandarin and did a lot of work with the community. So you've got to be really smart about this and really sensible and sensitive. And she's sort of making it all about her and doubling down on this. And if you read between the lines here, this is this goes to the internal tensions in the Liberal Party. She clearly doesn't like Susan Lee.
01:05:24
Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 13: And interestingly Jane Hume came to just enterprise his defense yesterday rather than just you know, the person made the most sense yesterday, and you don't often say this was Barnaby Joyce. Barnaby said, look, you're staffed, apologize, move on.
01:05:38
Speaker 5: And yeah that's a practice.
01:05:40
Speaker 13: And I think he's he would know. But you know this, this this, you know there's MPs with large Indian Australian members of the community just pulling the hair out and just doing everything they can.
01:05:51
Speaker 5: No one's talking about Indian crime gangs on the least, or Indian hitting me in Indian drug dealers like I mean, all the Indians seem to do, as far as I can tell is work their butts off, speak English, make great world.
01:06:03
Speaker 4: And as you made the point about HARKing back to the eighties and the fears in Australia about East Asian migration here, that didn't stop. People just came to realize these people don't commit crimes, they pay tax and they go about their business. That sounds really great, Like Indians are.
01:06:17
Speaker 13: Exactivation the danger here this leaches into other into other ethnic communities. You know, there's like I was talking to the liberals, Yay said, you know, the South South Asian community really sort of watching this closely and stuff. This can cause you a lot of damage politically. But you know, if she goes on Sky at six o'clock and does what Peter Kredline tells her too, that just it just it just makes it worse.
01:06:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, Labor's got them right where they want them with all this stuff. I reckon Peel got on your Phil Cury, the national political editor of the Financial Review. It's a level of people to pick the Yeah, it's crazy.
01:06:49
Speaker 4: Well, you made the great point the other day that part of the totally valid component of the the Australia rallies that took place was was does all of this make sense? There are certain incidents where there is clearly a misalignment of cultural values.
01:07:06
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, when I gave the example of that radical Islamist preacher in Melbourne who's talking about whether you can have Shari or lawy a like conversation living in the wrong country. Why are we rolling out the welcome mat to him? But if you if you have some bloke from the Punjab, he wants to come here, do a degree, drive an uber. Often these people do the jobs that nobody else wants. They keep the economy ticking along, you know, the late night stores and what have you. I think the only thing you can maybe criticize our good Indian friends about is the odd call center when you're making your meal. But that's not really their fault. That's the business model they're all in list to do it. Do you want to change your energy plan?
01:07:48
Speaker 3: No?
01:07:48
Speaker 5: Thanks on making dinner, you know, rack of, it's a weird group other than no issues. Yeah, bizarre, all right, we love the Indians. Well, it's check traffic. Will we come back in just a moment. We're going to have a trial by jury and it's inspired by some of the beautiful accents we heard in the first hour of the program that's coming up in a moment. Get an outfit that will stop traffic at a great price with Petershireman's with.
01:08:11
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast six.
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Speaker 8: Only like ten percent of mac pace swoop and if they are, you know, there is reports in the media that it's been particularly bad this year. But we're cutting down the bleeding trees and then you have two big daddies fighting over the one nest.
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Speaker 4: It was a wonderful interview, not the least of which because of growing this magnificent Irish accent. And then we did across with Sa Powl, another beautiful Irish accent. Got us wondering, if you had to listen to any accent on the radio, would you take Irish or the field Irish or something else?
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Speaker 5: Eight double two to three, double o, double o.
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Speaker 4: Beautiful speaking boys, it is just a lovely, lovely accent Irish or something else Irish or the.
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Speaker 5: Field For our trial by jury.
01:09:51
Speaker 20: In the criminal justice system, all defendants are innocent until proven guilty, either by confession, plea bargain, or trial jury. This is one of those trails.
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Speaker 5: I mean to help the groan you of course was very passionate about the subject as well. But the accent, the accent was a big part, so you can read it, you know, the yellow pages in Irish. It was a beautifulsh English during number one.
01:10:16
Speaker 4: If you had to listen to an accent on the radio, would you take Irish or something else?
01:10:22
Speaker 13: Well, Mark Keane would would be one of my favorites, so I would.
01:10:26
Speaker 5: Have to say Irish. Yeah, we love Kenye, he's excellent. All the Irish footy players have been good over these Tyker nearly great guys yep during number two good morning, good morning Irish or the field during number two.
01:10:41
Speaker 21: Let's go the fte Dad with a little bit of all sorts of multicultural questions.
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Speaker 4: All right, I'm not sure what happened there, thank you during number two Irish? During number three good morning, I didn't. I don't think so jur number three good morning.
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Speaker 19: Good morning you're Welsh?
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, good one. That's a great suggestion. Rob Brydon, Harry Seekam.
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Speaker 4: What's the say they said it? The word the wolf's sound they just sound so friendly, Griffre's Joe. They can't sound anything but totally likable.
01:11:13
Speaker 5: What's there saying? Yuki da yaky durnber fo, good morning, Yuki.
01:11:17
Speaker 9: Dar just span yours?
01:11:21
Speaker 5: Yes, you're just trying to get me to vote for you, aren't you? During a macuatro? See it, Brick, you just speaking the languages of the accent? Is it? Is it just spanning the language Spanish? Yeah? He spoke it pretty well. Yeah, a really accent then is it during umber five? Good morning?
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Speaker 21: Of course you have to be a Scottish accent.
01:11:50
Speaker 5: Scott The Scottish accent is great. Do you number five sounds a little bit like Mary from flag Staff Hill?
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Speaker 21: That's right, That's who it is.
01:11:58
Speaker 5: Hey, Mary, how long have you been here? Six years? Sixty seven years?
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Speaker 4: It's amazing and yet but do your family say that you've you've slowly turned into it having an Australian accent.
01:12:11
Speaker 13: Oh?
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Speaker 21: Of course, of course we have an Australian accent. Been talking to Australians.
01:12:18
Speaker 5: You like a chameleon. Mary?
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Speaker 21: At school? You're ten years old and you have people picking this thing out of you because.
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Speaker 17: You're talking Scots.
01:12:28
Speaker 1: Well, you have to.
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Speaker 17: Change, don't you.
01:12:30
Speaker 5: That is true? That is true.
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Speaker 4: That was tremendous so we had Scottish, Welsh, Spanish and a couple of votes for Irish.
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Speaker 5: Who do we like for the one hund actual, let's give it a Mary. Yeah, let's give it to myself as Mary. I haven't read trouble picking Irish v Scottish. Don't tell you, don't tell them that. Just don't tell them they're English. That's true. Yeah. Yeah.
01:12:55
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Speaker 4: Eight minutes after eight Breaking eight not too far away. Looking forward to our chat after eight thirty today we're going to be catching up with the Variety CEO Mark McGill and Jamie mclerk.
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Speaker 5: The Chairman of Commercial in General.
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Speaker 4: You might recall we did a outside broadcast a number of months back at the West Development in West Lakes inside a house that was being sold and the profit of which was going to Variety. Well it's sold, and we could reveal how much money is going to Variety after eight thirty today very much looking forward to that. We've also got our Thomas Farm's Footy debate coming up very very shortly that we need two people to be a part of. This is going to be a I reckon. They're all hot. These debates are all hot debate and it's a great prize too. Of course you get the Thomas Farmers meat tray that's valued at one hundred and fifty bucks. But then also you're in the running to win the ultimate Footy barbecue pack upgrade valued at three thousand dollars. Now three thousand. That's a figure that's just popped up in the news in a massive breaking news story. In fact, three and a half thousand jobs are going to be slashed by A and Z Bank by next September. Three thousand, five hundred jobs the bank. We'll give the bank spin over and then I'll get your thoughts on it. They are saying that they are reducing duplication and internal complexity. There's a broader restructure, including reducing engagements with consultants and other third parties. They are saying that there won't be an impact to customer facing roles. This is all behind the scenes and it's going to cost them. So the cost of the restructure, the cost of the payouts and move things around and so forth, five hundred and sixty million dollars.
01:15:07
Speaker 5: So that's just to pay people POQ money get them out of the door. This is a company that made a profit of three point six billion dollars this year the first half of this year, which was a sixteen percent increase on the previous six months profit three point six billion dollars. You wonder two and our heart goes out to the people at the A m Z with these BD eyed bastards from the McKenzie Institute. What is it? What are those sort of Boston consulting group style you know, death by NBA walking around like a bunch of Dalek's have been freed on the office floor, looking at anyone who might be a duplicate and recommending that they sign their their pink slip and leave post taste. But you wonder, are these people, these human beings who are going to lose their jobs? How many of them are going to be the first major victims of AI in this country. How many of the jobs that they do are processing forms where you could advocate that there's a like for like scenario where you could actually create a computer program to do it. And I'll tell you what, as a customer, how do you deal with the AI version of the person who you know, you knew as Sheryl, who for years had looked after your bank loan? The next time there's some varia they're saying that they're saying there's limited changes to customer facing roles. Well that let's just call that for what it is. That's crap. Because if you look at the history of banks, and you can drive along South Road and I can see the building now that is the Archery Store, for many years was the bank s a branch like this. The country is littered with places that used to house people who are actually in the business of serving customers.
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Speaker 4: So I'm looking at their official statement and I just I've looked through everything they've publicly put out. So when they make a change this big, they have to register it to the stock market, and there's formal ways in which you have to tell people and so forth. The words artificial intelligence don't appear anywhere, and I'm with you, it's hard to imagine that's not a factor here, that there are many roles that now can be done by one piece of software that perhaps were done by four people before. And they've entitled the release A and Z announces changes to better focus on priorities. That's the that's that's the headline.
01:17:35
Speaker 5: Someone's getting paid half a million dollars a year to write a meaning, Well, maybe they're not anymore. Maybe I wrote it. Yeah, that's true. Maybe the persons we.
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Speaker 4: Reiterate, they haven't said anything about AI. But in this environment, it's all roads lead that way three thousand and five. It's actually bigger than that, and people don't generally, you know, no one cries for the consultants, but three thousand, five hundred A and Z employees plus one thousand consultants huge.
01:18:01
Speaker 5: I just make the point again, they just made three point six billion dollars and how much money do they need to make?
01:18:09
Speaker 4: Well, I presume what will happen is we'll get more competitive rates, and you know they would certainly give us returns on our savings accounts and so forth. I imagine that'll come through it any moment for sure, Pollyanna that that release must be next you know what they wanted to give that one.
01:18:24
Speaker 5: Let this one, Bree. We've saved so much money that you're going to get point two five off your variable homelan rate.
01:18:29
Speaker 4: Now what it'll be, but I mean, in all seriousness what will be. There won't be a release, but there will be a dividend payment that will go to shareholders.
01:18:37
Speaker 5: Well, this is it and it looks just And to round it all out, our super is invested heavily in banks and so forth, so supporting it now just in the interest of being entirely balanced about it is that's a financial reality of most Australians in their retirement. But the prime is and Alan Joyce is the human personification of this. That's their only criterion. Absolutely it is. It's not for breaking. So we alluded to this the other day, but we've now had a confirmed we've received all of the correspondents. Victims of Crime Service, which since the nineteen seventies was actually started off the back of the shocking family murders. It's done a great job helping victims of crime. Well, it's written to its members at Stakeholders saying that as of September it is officially winding up. It is no longer going to be providing services, and it's apparently now in talks with the AG's Department and also the Department of Social Services about what can be done to pick up the slack and to make sure that the services that it provides hugely important, you know, helping people have lost kids, lost partners, or have been victims themselves of crime. How are these services going to continue? Shadow Minister Michelle Lensink is across this and she was involved in the Victims of Crime Service when the Libs were in power. Michelle, thanks for your time. I understand that you guys have asked the government for some answers about this. What's your assessment of where things are at and also how important is this organization?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Look, thanks guys looking it is obviously it's a really important service for people who are extremely vulnerable and have been through a lot of trauma. So it provides things like court companion services and support for people accessing the National Redress Scheme, which is for people who've been abused seeking compensation from the Commonwealth Government. So obviously it's a huge concern for a lot of people who would be receiving those services or looking at those services. We didn't get too much of any substance from Premier Alnawskis when he was asked about this in Parliament. What I do know from my time in government is that there have been a lot of issues internally with victim support services over the years. You know, not trying to politicize this in any way, but certainly is an organization that has as strong links to Labor and they missed out on a tender under Vicky Chapman when she was a g because it went to another organization, and you know then they cried poor to Labor who just handed over two million dollars to them. In coming to governments, so I think, you know, the issues have been known for a long time, and you know, we're three and a half years into this new government. Who gave them money, so they must have known there's been problems. Other organizations are going to have to pick.
01:21:40
Speaker 9: Up the slacks.
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Speaker 2: So I think the big question that Peter Melanaskis has to answer, is you know, what on earth have they been doing to steady the ship and make sure that these services keep operating, because it's all about the victims really, you know, they want to be reassured that they're getting support when they need it. And how much is it going to cost if the services have to go to other organizations such as the Victims of Crime Commission?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's it and are those organizations big enough to pick up the slack? Thank you for that, Michelle Lenting. And we'll be raising it off with the AG and seeing if we can find out over the next couple of days what the state of play is. Michelle Lentin there, thank you. Good question from Nathan on the text line, whenever we pay the Victims of Crime levy, where does that money go?
01:22:31
Speaker 7: Well?
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Speaker 5: Where does it go? Now? Well, I don't think it goes to Victims of Crime service. Doesn't it just go into the general pool for people have been injured, yes, lost possessions or suffered mental anguish as a result of crime. I think that's the argument. I think that's right. Doesn't just go straight to Stephen Mulligan's kick, No, that would be hard one to explain Stacy's called in on the A and Z decision to sack three thousand, five hundred employees by September next year. Want to you, Stacey, Good morning gentlemen.
01:23:04
Speaker 9: Yes, I'm out a full park. So now I'm South. I've always been. I've always banked with Adelaide Bank, which was inverted Commas merger with Bendigo Bank, which was basically an acquisition, right and Flagstaff Hill, Adelaide Bank, Bendigo Bank atm gone, Papa Valley gone, Blackwood gone, no longer gone. All I've got left now is more for Vale or Glenelg or Onley Road. And yet to this day on the Bendigo Bank website it still has spin that due to the merger with Adelaide Bank inverted Commas, there is now seventy ATMs available for Bendigo Bank customers in South Australia. There's not even seven.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, good point. He's a sign of the time, Stacey. Thank you. Maybe they sacked the person whose job it was got upgrade the website.
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Speaker 4: I mean, what is telling and all this, what is clear is that there are not price signals from the market rewarding the banks that are keeping most of these things open. Are they that we might not we might hate that, But there's no bank that's saying we're going to keep them all open. And they're performing better than everyone else. But they're clearly weighing the inconvenience to people like Stacy against the bottom line, and they're saying, well, it might irritate some people, but they're actually not losing out because where else are you going to go? That seems to be the sort of calculus and all this point though, that would actually be such a terrific point of business. Can you imagine if Qantas said, you know what we're going to do? Feel often they'll be screaming at me for even suggesting this, but don't worry, there's no way they'll do it. Maybe if Contas said, you know what we're going to do to win back the hearts of people in South Australia. Not only we're going to announce there's going to be a couple of extra international direct flights, you know, one to LA and one to I know, Middle East, keep going on to London afterwards. We're also going to open the Quantas Holiday Center where you can come in into the city and have a face to face meeting with someone who will help you plan your trip, Like.
01:25:10
Speaker 5: Would people go, how cool is that? It's like the good old days when you can actually go to the counter and book something with a person.
01:25:18
Speaker 4: But you know what's happening in the in the world of banking, the opposite is happening. There are increasingly I bet we've got listeners who do this, who have got homelans with banks who don't even exist physically in South Australia. Yeah, because they get more competitive rates. Well, people get loans from That's what I'm with. One of those people get.
01:25:37
Speaker 5: Loans from like Macquarie that hasn't got a single that's branch anywhere in South Australia. What about Cricket Australia though they've taken out a full page add in today's paper. This is from Peter. It's great See cricket at its one day best great tagline, except it has spelled it apostrophe, yes, which is see cricket it is one day best there. What about that? Well, I mean they run cricket, not you know English.
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01:26:36
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Speaker 4: Ray Lean open the batting for us, Raylane, what do you think where Well?
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Speaker 22: I think that's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard of nearly seventy six and still wear mine. And if I win anything on five double A, I'll put on my Bob Clayton laid that port Paig, make five gondy and wear it around again.
01:28:16
Speaker 5: Bobby Clayton, Yeah, go the ONDI.
01:28:24
Speaker 4: That was a powerful message from Raylene. All right, let's go to Michael. Michael, why should you stop wearing a jumper when you turn forty?
01:28:31
Speaker 5: Do you think?
01:28:32
Speaker 23: Good morning gentlemen? God bless Raylene as well? But anything past thirty five I think you hang on to you for too long. I know thirties and your twenty and forties and your thirty and fifty. Bard we're much younger than used to be, but leave to the younger ones. Anything past thirty five onwards, let it go and dress age appropriate. One cavea on that though. At the Grand Final or better off where whatever you want, Coach takes your Grand Final this year, I'll be over there. I might be wearing my guante.
01:28:59
Speaker 5: I don't all right, Michael, chink of the armor there? Who do we like, Michael or Raylean?
01:29:04
Speaker 4: It's up to you to determine who wins one hundred and fifty dollars Thomas Farms about you know their listener the Royal You It's not you, the Royal not you.
01:29:17
Speaker 5: You a feeling on the text line.
01:29:19
Speaker 4: Hang on, sorry, just just vote through Michael or Raylean on the text line. Just sorry, one word Michael or ray Lean on the text line will announce the winner after five double a news zero four zero eight thirty ninety five. But you're saying there are some thoughts coming through already, Yes, and quite a few people pointing to the ep L.
01:29:35
Speaker 5: Dave from Parry Hill says, hate this much idea that people can't wear a guernsey if they're an adult to the footy. It's one of the great joys to be able to wear the club that I love, Jumper, the biggest game in the world. Soccer has plenty of people in the stands wearing their team's jerseys. That's true, but have you seen some of them? Darren also says, stop wearing the club's guernsey just because of my age. Have you seen a Premier League soccer match lately? Good point?
01:29:57
Speaker 4: All right, ray Lean or Michael, cast your vote on the Police Home Care text line. One of them will be announced as the winner of Today's one hundred and fifty dollars Thomas Farms voucher and in the running for the three thousand dollars up David.
01:30:11
Speaker 3: Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:30:14
Speaker 5: Twenty two minutes to nine.
01:30:16
Speaker 4: If you think you have a claim on being Adelaide's unluckiest Crows support, you still have time to call in and tell us your tale of woe, because we want to turn your luck around and the Crows for that matter, with tickets to get along on Friday night sold out game, give us a bus if your Adelaide's unluckiest Crows fan eight double two to three double O double oh is the number now. Before the break it was an absolute whitewash. We had a debate about weather you could still wear your footy jumper to the footy once you hit the age of forty. Ray Lean said, of course you can. Michael said, time to draw a line under it, although he did say except for the Grand Final when all bets are off, or we can announce by account of eighteen to two in the minute or two that immediately followed that vote, that it is in fact Raleigh who has got the one hundred and fifty dollars. Thomas Farm's actually come in your way and is in the running to be upgraded to get the three thousand dollars Premium Grand Final Barbecue experience.
01:31:18
Speaker 5: Thanks Thomas Farmers Foods. Great work, great work. Just quickly to round out breaking at eight, I've heard from the Attorney General kaime Ma who contacted me saying reassuring that work is underway within the Attorney General's Department to make sure that the key services that are provided by the Victims of Crime Service are retained, particularly the court companions. These are the people who help support people who are going through the criminal justice system who've been victims of crime. So every measure is being taken to make sure that that service continues.
01:31:53
Speaker 4: You might recall we were broadcasting a number of months back from inside a newly built premises at the West Development at West Lakes. The reason because that building built by Commercial in General was being auctioned off and the profits going to the wonderful variety of the Children's charity. Well, if you're watching on the Facebook and YouTube live stream, you'll see we've got Jamie mcclerk from Commercial in General and Sam McGill in the studio with us from Variety, which means, gentlemen, I suspect we have a figure that's come about with the property going under the hammer, starting with you, Savin, good morning, Good morning boy.
01:32:28
Speaker 24: We certainly do. And I'm still trying to get that image of us in the bedroom out of I'm.
01:32:33
Speaker 5: Just leaving just sort out what happens at the ob I'm glad you decided to use that paragraph after the auction because he might have.
01:32:44
Speaker 24: Not the a bit of money off exactly exactly well without without stealing any thunder from Jamie. It's probably over to Jamie to announce that very very kind and significant donation.
01:32:58
Speaker 25: Well, I think it's plenty fair to say we didn't make enough profit out of selling it, so we had to change the number.
01:33:03
Speaker 5: That's just so you know.
01:33:05
Speaker 25: We actually had to make it up because we don't know, really make that much money of a house. But we decided that we're going to do half a million bucks. So half a million bucks do you guys?
01:33:14
Speaker 5: Incredible? Wow? I'm th so much so when you say we decided to make it up, well you made you Yeah. Yeah.
01:33:23
Speaker 25: Occasionally speak to my wife about these things before I do it, but occasionally strategy, Yeah, let him know what happened after the event. But also I figured that it was a great way to make the most expensive five double a mug in history.
01:33:36
Speaker 5: That's the reason why we really did it. Wow, five hundred thousand ods. So what does that go towards that or just.
01:33:43
Speaker 24: Just firstly, my son for father, they brought me a whoop bracelet and I can feel that the heart rates.
01:33:50
Speaker 5: I think the data is going to blow it.
01:33:52
Speaker 24: We'll blow that up about two hundred b's a minute.
01:33:54
Speaker 5: But no, it's it's incredible.
01:33:57
Speaker 24: It's an absolute game changer in terms of of if you think about our event programs and how many thousands of hours it takes to generate those that revenue, and then when you get a donation from Commercial General and Jamie and his team Louisa, the efficiency of that is incredible because that's just a straight donation, money in the money in the bank, and just that. The really important bit to that is the impact. Thousands of children now will have a much better, a much morefill.
01:34:29
Speaker 5: Life because a lot of the stuff you do, SAYVE is like you know, one big hit sort of infrastructure wise, it might be like a mini bars or like these things you need that are significant outlays, aren't they Absolutely.
01:34:38
Speaker 24: We've got things like inclusive playgrounds. They are million dollar programs.
01:34:44
Speaker 5: You know.
01:34:46
Speaker 24: You've got to your point Sunshine coaches that's one hundred and fifty k with a wheelchair accessibility. So all those sorts of things are a big clip of the ticket. Yeah, but then you go down to also things like iPads or a copy rimplant or the single child impact there.
01:35:04
Speaker 5: At the other end of the scale.
01:35:05
Speaker 24: But equal is important.
01:35:06
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, Hey, it's a great house to be in, t Jamie. We loved it that day. It's a good development there, Beauty.
01:35:11
Speaker 25: I wasn't sure about the three of us sitting on the end of the bed, but no, no, no.
01:35:15
Speaker 5: It's every Yeah, we're all scarred.
01:35:18
Speaker 25: Yeah, no, no, that's a good spot. You know, we've got to just get organized because as quickly as we can, you know, get him in their new place, you know, back to back premierships and all that.
01:35:30
Speaker 4: So I don't know, I don't know how many you're out at the moment. You've got the West development, but there's a whole heap of development that I see that you guys are doing around.
01:35:35
Speaker 5: You've got the O'Connell O'Connell as well. I'm just trying to work out.
01:35:39
Speaker 4: The federal gunment's one point two million homes in the next five years. Are you prepared to about a million of them?
01:35:45
Speaker 25: Tell them they're dreaming?
01:35:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say, what, what from your perspective of someone who actually does this every single day is required to meet a target like that.
01:35:54
Speaker 25: Put it in this way in a South Australian context, it's adding eighteen percent to the construction of what you do every year, and that's actually an impossible number. It just it doesn't make sense. You can't add eighteen percent of the workforce. You can't add to productivity. Productivity is declining in the industry for a whole lot of reasons which no one wants to hear on morning radio. But yeah, it's it's impossible. So when people want to get serious about the problems, then solutions can come. But just the redicrip, let's do a million houses, it's just nonsense.
01:36:24
Speaker 5: It says a whole bunch of things that didn't end up being discussed at the Productivity around table a couple of weeks ago.
01:36:29
Speaker 25: Well, yeah, I didn't get an invit obviously because I'll probably say the wrong thing. But yeah, yeah, I mean annecdotally, we can say there's been a thirty percent decline in construction productivity in the last five years, you know, the last five years. Yeah, I'm an old guy now, you know, I'm officially over well over fifty, so I can say that.
01:36:45
Speaker 5: But yeah, I've seen it.
01:36:47
Speaker 25: Yeah yeah, not wearing the footae jump into the game. So yeah, so there has been that decline. So it's one that's systemic and not sure how it's going to get solved.
01:36:57
Speaker 5: He said, we're gonna be butting up against for the radio time.
01:37:00
Speaker 24: Absolutely got the November the twenty eighth excellent, which were down at the lad Airport. Yeah, so it'll be fantastic. And we've also the gift that keeps on giving. Beyond the half a million dollars, here would.
01:37:14
Speaker 13: Be some more money.
01:37:15
Speaker 25: So well, you're an arm twister.
01:37:17
Speaker 5: Now he gets your on the spot. Does that mean this is hard to say?
01:37:24
Speaker 25: Does that mean does that mean my mug's worth more money?
01:37:26
Speaker 24: Mugs actually might be worth it a little bit more.
01:37:28
Speaker 25: No, No, so we'll match. We'll match dollar for dollar on that thing up to thirty grand as well.
01:37:33
Speaker 5: Fantastic. Oh that as well. Did you run that one by the wife for just made that decision in the minent.
01:37:39
Speaker 25: My phone's buzzing in the pocket.
01:37:41
Speaker 5: Thanks Louis happens. Thanks Louis your match.
01:37:46
Speaker 25: I know, I got to stitch in on the car the other day. She's like, I've got to listen to better radio, and I said, here you go, and I set it up for and she's like, okay, great.
01:37:52
Speaker 5: So you know you've got you've got a lot in impeccable taste. You'll be in the car husband's radio show.
01:37:57
Speaker 25: Well, you know that's debatable too.
01:38:02
Speaker 5: A serious guys, that.
01:38:05
Speaker 24: Over half a million dollars and the thirty K eight to dollar match within radiothon to demand at the moment has never been greater, and it continues. We need to generate these extraordinary revenue sums just to keep pace. You know, the food security issues aren't going away, Youth at risk is not going away. Autism assessments have gone through the roof. So all the generosity and kindness and leadership shown by commercial and general in terms of the business sector matched by our fundraising entrance in their amazing generosity and energy and passion just keeps pace with the forty thousand plus children will need support each year.
01:38:48
Speaker 4: That's a really important point because you made the point you said to me before we came in here that for the Bash record breaking open here charity say we had a record breaking year. But your point's important. Record breaking doesn't mean you're servicing necessarily more people. Maybe it doesn't even mean you're servicing the same number of people. But you're gonna have to break record just to keep pace.
01:39:08
Speaker 24: Absolutely, and and these again, this generosity and the leadership is this is going into the South Australian community.
01:39:16
Speaker 5: This is a South.
01:39:16
Speaker 24: Australian based corporate entity who is investing back into the children in our community who desperately need it. And that's from that's every point of the compass. And again it's to the to the point it's the big ticket projects, but it's also down to the individual child and family.
01:39:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, how are you going for items for the action?
01:39:37
Speaker 24: So going really well, we've got again the Generosity Australian out the living and back on the we've got NRG Solar back on right, they've got Phil Lockman travel back on excellent.
01:39:52
Speaker 5: So yeah there's some good. Yeah, it's great because we know a lot of those companies, you know, to your point to Jamie, the last five years hasn't been a walk in the park in the in the private sector. So good on them that they still manage.
01:40:04
Speaker 24: To give absolutely, and again putting back to the point, and this is probably one of the great strengths of Variety is that that the mums and dads who contribute, and there our dollar matched with not only commercial in general, but cockrams as well. So yeah, that's it's a significant it's significant program. That's a really important one for us, a great platform. We have a great day, tell lots of stories about what we do and introduce all the children and families and again it's it's a ripping day and we really enjoy it. So but this is an amazing, amazing day for us.
01:40:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, beautiful, Good on you guys.
01:40:36
Speaker 4: Thanks five hundred thousand dollars in a commitment of thirty thousand ball Jamie, that's just a remarkable generosity, mate, Thank you so much for becoming you.
01:40:43
Speaker 25: No pressure on the radios and then to make it happen.
01:40:45
Speaker 4: Yes, it'll happen, No worry about that, and said it will be there too, and so will David, and we're looking forward to it.
01:40:50
Speaker 5: Thanks boy.
01:40:51
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01:40:55
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01:41:00
Speaker 5: Minutes to nine.
01:41:00
Speaker 4: In a moment, we're going to award the winner of the Crow's tickets to someone who'll be surprised to win them because they have declared themselves Adelaide's unluckiest Crows fans, so in winning the tickets, that'll be a bit of a change of fortune. We hope there's a change of fortune for the Crows as well. On Friday night, will announce that in a moment. If you want more footy, though, make sure you tune into the Sports show tonight because Campo will be on and he'll give you the best preview and breakdown of what to look for in the Awthorne game. Campo's like watching footy with the cheap code. He'll you'll know within ten minutes based on Campo's description of the things to look out for, how the game is going beyond what the scoreboard tells you. Is the best in the business. Scott Cambrelly on the Drive show tonight thanks to unique home style foods. John and Glen Osmond's called in on the A and Z decision to cut three thousand, five hundred jobs by September next year.
01:41:47
Speaker 5: Morning, John, morning, how good, Thank you. John.
01:41:52
Speaker 26: I've been an A and zaid customer for over fifty years and the service has been going downhill and down here. I reckon, I mean hell, at the moment, that's how low it is. Every time, Irene, it's over half an hour on the phone and I end up getting somebody overseas. It's so polite. I don't want to say anything bad to them, but we don't you know, we don't have We've got people here that need jobs, and we're getting into people overseas purely because the wages are probably one one fourth of what we're paying people here.
01:42:25
Speaker 5: Well that's it.
01:42:26
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just not right.
01:42:27
Speaker 26: It's just not right. We've got people wanting jobs and we're giving him overseas anything wanted jet start anything that I've rung up. You get a call center overseas.
01:42:39
Speaker 5: Can I? Johnny? You are you a business customer or a mortgage holder?
01:42:43
Speaker 26: Business business customer.
01:42:45
Speaker 5: Is so it's a business you'd have to have to make, you know, way more frequent calls than the average punter.
01:42:51
Speaker 26: So what I do is I put them on loud speaker to carry on in the office and then when they come.
01:42:55
Speaker 5: Back to me our answer two hours later. What a pain.
01:43:01
Speaker 4: Thank you for that, John, John in glen Osman there on that a m Z decision which is going to continue to make big news. And unfortunately one thing to watch now will be what do the other banks do totally because.
01:43:12
Speaker 5: They'll be looking at this. There'll be a crisis meetings at the nab CBA Westpac this morning going all right, are we running a bit fat now? WHI should get the FSU on about it tomorrow the finance at the UN.
01:43:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, a good idea because they were warned that there would be one hundred job losses was my understanding about a month or two ago, and there were one hundred or as imposed to three and a half thousand.
01:43:32
Speaker 5: That's right.
01:43:34
Speaker 4: They had a heads up there would be some job cuts, but it was nothing in the order of what got announced on the market today. Let's have look at the fuel situation before announced. The winner of our Crows tickets comp RAA. How good are the RAA. It's better to be a member with RAA Road Service fuel watch. The cheapest unleded is write it at a dollar sixty point nine. That's the BPX Convenience JEPS Cross Main North Road pretty good. The United Flinders Park on Grange Road as well dollars sixty three point seven diesels hovering and a dollar seventy. You can get it just under it at the United Odaway Grand Junction Row dollars sixty nine point five or the Liberty Seafed MAINSOUW Row dollars seventy one point five.
01:44:09
Speaker 5: Have you seen that house in Findon that is up for sale? I find this border house where you got to keep all the garbage? Would you buy? Would you pay? A huge block? It's one of those blocks that looks like very soon it could have three townhouses on it instead of one big, sprawling old nineteen sixties type Jennings dream home. From the outside, it looks fine this house in Findon, but absolutely every room is just filled with sieves, spiral binders, boxes of old newspapers. It looks like a dump. It actually looks totally like a dump. Oh my god, doesn't Oh Yeah, there's like there's old jar of Gagarna's olives sitting there, there's empty bottles of olive oil. I mean back in the day. They might have been making some decent food in about nineteen seventy four. But I've left it all there. So you buy the house, you get everything in it.
01:45:12
Speaker 4: I wonder what that knocks off the headline price, what would it cost to clean it up? Or maybe if you bulledize it.
01:45:15
Speaker 5: You don't care.
01:45:16
Speaker 4: Hey, we've got tickets to the game Friday night to give away to Adelaide's unluckiest Crows fan.
01:45:22
Speaker 5: Who is the winner, David? There can only be one winner, will and it is drum roll please, Anthony from McGill to the Tale of Role about the.
01:45:35
Speaker 4: Ten leg molting, the ten leg Malti that stood to earn him ten thousand dollars if the Crows won. It was the last leg the Crow's huge favorites. Remember, he was confronted with an opportunity to buy tickets being and his wife for three and a half grand and he thought, no, worriy, he's about ten thousand dollars coming in after this game. This is the easiest decision ever. He ended up traveling a long way to watch his team lose at a cost of thirteen five hundred dollars. Effectively, that said eight years later, it's paid off. You're getting along to the Friday night Flash. A great call tomorrow morning. Here's some good news, more chance to win. There's more tickets on the way potentially for someone could be you. Tomorrow morning. We'll be trying to find another type of Crow's fan on the program tomorrow. Have a wonderful Tuesday. We'll catch you tomorrow from six o'clock.
01:46:21
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast