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Speaker 1: Welcome to Effective Immediately, a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Yo, it's Effective Immediately. I'm DJ Head.
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Speaker 2: What up, bro? This your favorite homegirl, Gina Buse.
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Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building with us. So many hyphenates. Actor, playing legends out here, R & B writer, producer, all of the things. Algie Smith is here.
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Speaker 3: All right, what's the deal? What's the deal?
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, man.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, bro. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Nah.
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Speaker 2: Welcome Warren G.
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Speaker 1: Let's wake it up.
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Speaker 3: To the show. It was a cool black night.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Did you have to do that? I want to talk about that. I don't know. I mean, let's fuck it. We here. But did you have to like rap a song for the audition? Because I heard shit about the auditions.
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Speaker 3: What did you hear though first?
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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on. So you're playing Warren G in the new Snoop biopic.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
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Speaker 1: Congratulations.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, bro.
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Speaker 1: First of all, before I get in your business.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, bro.
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Speaker 1: But I heard. different things about these auditions. Like, I heard from one side, it was like, man, this was intense because of the pressure. And then I heard nigga had to rap for real.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like, nigga, like, they not playing. Like, you better get up there and do them songs.
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Speaker 3: Funny enough, bro, when the audition came through, it was BET weekend, and we was out doing a lot of moving. And the audition came through, and I was like, I don't really think I'm right to play Warren, so I'm not even going to audition. And then something told me, just like, bro, just send the tape in. Just send the audition in. So I went back to the crib.
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Speaker 1: We did a self-tape.
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Speaker 3: We did a self-tape. Went back to the crib. In between parties, I left the party, went to the crib, recorded a self-tape, went back outside. Then I get the call the next day, like, okay, they want to see you for the callback. I'm like, damn, so, all right, so I must be right for the role. But then it was like, you got to rap. So I had to learn a lot of Warren verses and then come back and do that part of it. But it was, I'm naturally musically inclined, though, bro. So it wasn't tough. And I know all that music anyway. So it was just like, it was easy for me.
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Speaker 2: I want to hear your Warren G audition accent.
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Speaker 3: Oh, man, I can't do it right now, Snoop. Oh, man, G-Dub. I got it. I need a little more.
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Speaker 1: I need a little more.
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Speaker 3: No, that's good.
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Speaker 2: You sound just like him sitting right there.
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Speaker 3: He said, my homeboy, G-Dub.
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Speaker 2: You just got to drag your words.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to drag it a little more. He got like a southern twang to it. It's not fully L.A. It's like some south in there as well, but like you said, it's real slow, too.
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Speaker 2: Have you met Warren G yet?
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Speaker 1: Not yet.
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Speaker 3: Not yet. I just signed my deal yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: He said, not yet.
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Speaker 2: When you was a kid listening to West Coast music, did you ever think you would be playing Warren G in a Snoop Dogg biopic?
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Speaker 3: Hell no. That's crazy. Hell no, I never did. The moment came full circle, too, because me and Snoop did an interview years ago when he had GGM. Mm-hmm. did an interview after the new audition story and we've been locked in since then. So when the audition came back around, I'm like, bro, it's just full circle.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was dope.
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Speaker 2: Were there, was there anybody else that's like part of the West Coast story that you would have wanted to play?
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Speaker 3: Um, no, not for real. I can't even say. I don't know. Nah. Who you think I could have played other than Warren?
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Speaker 2: Um, you kind of a little lighter, but I wouldn't have been mad at Karrueche.
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Speaker 3: I'm way lighter. They can put some makeup on you. Blackface. You can blackface it out. The homies playing Corrupt, the homie Ali, I don't think he's going to do it. I think he's going to kill it. But yeah, Corrupt, that's a tough one to play too, bro, because just his lyricism and the way he carried it, so that's tough. So Ali got a job to do for sure.
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Speaker 2: How difficult is it, do you think, to accomplish the West Coast accent that they say we have? Because we don't hear it.
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Speaker 1: We don't hear it at all.
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Speaker 3: I think it's very tough. I think, especially if you're not from here, people can try and do it and put their own little thing on it. But to do it right, though, I think is very tough. And you got to, like, really be locked in. The homie who's playing Snoop, though, he's locked in for sure. Yeah. Yeah, JD's locked in for sure.
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Speaker 2: Y'all get on the phone talking like Warren G and Snoop Dogg?
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Speaker 3: We were just outside last night talking like them.
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Speaker 2: Are you serious?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a thousand percent.
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Speaker 2: Y'all just having a full-blown conversation with a West Coast accent.
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Speaker 3: We performed Ain't No Fun at karaoke and everything. Oh, that's hard!
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Speaker 1: Nobody recorded that shit? Yeah, we got to record it. Okay, we'll go up and get that footage.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to run that.
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Speaker 2: Karaoke.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? What was the first Warren song you learned?
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Speaker 3: Regulators, for sure. But when I was younger, though. I knew Regulators when I was younger. I had to learn this DJ. Recently It was a classic And then I just went through All the album cuts I've been going through All the album cuts So like Smoking Me Out To The Shack To Just all the ones That's like deep cuts Just so I can fully embody And then hopefully I'll do a good job for him You know what I'm saying That's my main goal For him to look at it And be like Yeah you killed it.
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Speaker 1: For me That's fire bro That's so dope G-Dub is my big homie So like When I saw that I was like Okay Okay this is cool Cause like you know Niggas be critical with they legends. Niggas be feeling away when they don't get it right. And we should, though.
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Speaker 3: We should be very critical of that, for sure. You can't play with that. If somebody's so legendary, and I've been blessed enough to be able to play some iconic people, but with that comes such a heavy burden on your shoulder because you don't want to mess it up for the people that already know it. It's not like you're making up a character. You got people that already know these people and love these people so much. So you got to do so well that they forget that they're watching you.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: That's a challenge.
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Speaker 2: You have the majority or a lot of your roles are rooted in either it's like a biopic or a real historical moment that, you know, that happened in history. Do for you, is there any, like, is it, is the pressure different with you depicting a role from like a fictional character versus somebody that you know is actually watching you portray them?
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Speaker 3: A thousand percent. You don't want to get it wrong. Like when I did, when we, when I did New Edition, And play Ralph. It was so intimidating because they're right in front of us rehearsing for a tour while we're right behind them rehearsing for the movie.
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Speaker 1: Oh, no shit.
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Speaker 3: But we're not as clean as them, obviously. So you got them looking back like, I better get together. You feel me? But it's a lot more pressure because, again, so many people in the world love these people. And you got to find the little things that you can do. almost exactly like them, so when people just forget that they watching.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: What was something from, did you ever get any advice or gain from Ralph Tresman?
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Speaker 3: He honestly told me, he put, we was in a room talking together after one of the rehearsals, and he kind of saw I was kind of stressed out about it, and he was just like, bro, you got the role already. You already, the hardest part is done. He was like, we relate on so much already. I'm a mama's boy. You a mama's boy. I do this. You do that. Just go out there and do your version of it. Don't try to fully be me. After that, it was like water.
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Speaker 1: What about singing? Because you mentioned you started going back in the Warren G catalog when you got ready for the new edition thing. You already a singer.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So is that less pressure, less prep?
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Speaker 3: It was more pressure because Babyface was in the room. You had Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis in the room. You had the head of BET in the room. Everybody's in the room just watching. So even though you a singer, you like, I got to sing this song in front of people who wrote this song. So they got to, you know what I'm saying? I remember the first audition I did, they was like, it was good, but just do less of the runs. Just do less of the coloring. Just stick to the basic. I was like, all right, cool, cool, cool.
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Speaker 2: Do you have more freedom as an actor when it is a fake character?
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Speaker 3: Yes, you have more freedom because you can color outside the lines a lot more. I like the way you put that. When it's a real character, like I said, you kind of got to be spot on as much as you can to represent for them. But yeah, if I'm playing a character that's not real, that's my world. I'm taking everything and putting it how I want to put it.
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Speaker 1: As an actor, not as a singer, but as an actor, what parts of the... When you're singing a song as an actor, is that the same thing as singing as a singer? Is that a weird question?
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Speaker 3: That's a good question, bro. I've never heard that question like that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how to say it, but I just said it how I thought it.
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Speaker 3: Nah, it's not different. Well, for me, it's not different. When I sing a song, I'm singing as a singer, whether I'm acting or not.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That's why I was asking, because I was talking to some people who do love scenes.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: And they were like, I was like, how does your husband handle you doing love scenes? Like, if you kissing this nigga the same way you kiss him. So I was wondering if it was parallel from actors and singers and rappers and actors. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: What did that person say?
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Speaker 1: They was like, no, it's different. Like, that's acting, and the way I kiss my husband is different. I'm like, how the fuck? Like, where do you go in your mind to have two different kissing styles? Yeah, that's a fact. You know what I mean? So I don't know where you're pulling that from.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. There's definitely a such thing as acting and real chemistry. So I've done love scenes before, and I didn't feel anything after it. So I definitely feel what they're talking about. You can't separate for sure, especially if you really aren't attracted to the person. Then it's like, okay, I just got to do the job.
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Speaker 2: How do you act well in a love scene if you're not attracted to.
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Speaker 1: The person, though?
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Speaker 3: Acting class. You got to think about that check you're going to get at the end of it all. Okay, I'm doing it for the finish line.
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Speaker 2: Do you feel it in the moment?
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Speaker 3: Sometimes. It just depends. It just depends. I haven't had a lot of love scenes in films. Okay, I'll take that back. I've had quite a few.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to say. That's Cap, nigga.
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Speaker 2: Nigga, that's Cap.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: No, you don't feel it all the time. I think it just depends. It's situational.
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Speaker 2: What about, okay, so you're an actor, but you're also a musician.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
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Speaker 2: What skills have you picked up from either world that you used in the other?
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Speaker 3: Oh great question uh the embodiment of characters and acting I'll take that over to the music I think some of the best music artists it's one of the most colorful music artists you look at Busta Rhymes you look at Nicki Minaj you look at people that just use a lot of inflections and characters and voices in their in their work when you act out a scene and then you know the The why behind the scene, like why I'm doing this, my reason for doing this, the tactics I'm going to use to do that. You take that in the studio and you're like, okay, how do I convey this emotion? Do I want people to cry when they hear it? Do I want people to smile when they hear it? It's kind of like the same thing, pulling from it.
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Speaker 2: With you being an actor, does that help the way you tell stories in music?
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Speaker 3: For sure. For sure, for sure, yeah. I already was just like a poet, like a lyricist. But yeah, being an actor helps you vividly tell the story a lot more because... The crazy thing is, like, when you're acting, you have, like, two hours to tell the story. When you're doing a song, you got two to three minutes to tell the story.
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Speaker 1: So you got.
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Speaker 3: To get to it. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So it's a little different, but I kind of use the same emotional draws for both of them.
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Speaker 1: What about coming of age? Has that been difficult for you? Like, because you started early.
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Speaker 3: I started acting when I was, like, 15, 16. So, you know, I'm grateful that I didn't start too early. Why? Because I had some normalcy growing up.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Oh, you got to be a kid.
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Speaker 3: Man, what? I grew up in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: Hot.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Being a kid, just doing regular things and falling in love with music first. And then music led me into the acting. You know, it's a lot of stories, and everybody's story ain't like this, but it's a lot of stories where, you know, you're a child actor and you go through so much trauma. And by the time you're 18, 20 years old, it's like you don't even want to do it no more.
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Speaker 1: You're burnt out. Yeah, you're burnt out.
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Speaker 3: It's crazy, bro, literally.
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Speaker 1: Or you're getting committed. Like, it'd be all kind of shit going on. Did you ever have a situation, like, I don't want to say, because I don't remember what age New Edition actually got their record deal. I know it was fairly young. But did you ever have any mentors like they had?
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Speaker 3: Not really. To be honest with you, I'm just now getting good at being like a mentee.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 3: And figuring out like, you know, what that is and asking for more help. And my personality is the type where I just, I don't like to ask for help. I don't like to bug people. I like to just figure it out. But that kills it though. When you got too much pride, it's like you're not going to get to the next level. People want to help you.
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Speaker 1: What's your sign?
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Speaker 3: I'm a Scorpio.
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Speaker 1: Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: But I'm doing greater. I'm doing much better now. I be bugging niggas now. You don't know nothing about Scorpios.
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Speaker 1: I know a few things.
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Speaker 2: Talking about some old shit.
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Speaker 1: I know a few things. I'm Capricorn.
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Speaker 3: Are you a Capricorn?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the niggas don't really fuck with me. But go ahead.
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Speaker 3: Damn, why though?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Just go ahead. Keep going.
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Speaker 3: I guess we gonna see in a couple months. I was like, nigga, I don't fuck with you. You was right. You was right, nigga. I don't... No, but I got some good mentors in my corner now, and I be bugging them. So now I'm doing a lot better because I just realized just as a human being, you need people, bro. Like, you need people. You need community to get to the next area, to the next step. Just to get further in life, you need people along the journey. So I'm doing much better. I be bugging the hell out of my mentors now.
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Speaker 2: What was it specifically that made you say or understand, like, I need a community. I need people. I can be a mentee.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I hit a wall. I think I got, I think I hit a ceiling, you know. The talent and skill only went so far. And relationships is one of the biggest things that can get you in the door. Relationships can get you in the door before talent can sometimes.
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Speaker 1: Facts.
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Speaker 3: So you got both of them paired with each other and then, you know what I'm saying? So I think that's what it was to me. I want more for myself and I know that's not going to happen unless I, you know, allow myself to have more community.
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Speaker 2: Can we go back to New Edition? Woody, Woody McClain told us a crazy story about how he got casted.
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Speaker 3: What was his story?
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Speaker 2: He said, I want to say he went, didn't he tell us he went for something else? He went for something else, right?
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Speaker 3: Same thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I went for Mike Bivens at first.
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Speaker 2: And he told, really?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: He told us that his, he won him over because he could dance.
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Speaker 3: I think he got on a table and started dancing in an audition. Yeah, he's right.
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Speaker 2: He said he knew he couldn't sing. Yeah, he was like, I'm going to dance. That's smart. He outperformed everybody.
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Speaker 1: That's smart.
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Speaker 2: So why did you want to go for Bivens at first?
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Speaker 3: That's what they had me going for. So I was in Atlanta that first New Edition audition. And Robbie Reed, legendary casting director. I love Robbie so much. Some of my more better blues. Just legendary films that we all know. She had me come in and read for Mike, and I read for him, and I did not do good in that audition at all. And she came out before I left, and she was like, can you just stay for, like, five more minutes? I want you to read for Ralph just to see what we got. And I'm like, yeah, all right. And I read, and I didn't hear nothing back for months. And then I came out here to L.A. on, like, a faith trip. Nothing to do with New Edition.
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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: I came out here to audition for other things, and then I ended up getting a callback for a new audition while I was here. And then I've just been here off that trip ever since, like, 12 years.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you just never left.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just kept looking after that. I just moved in. Yeah, LA, I like y'all. I'm going to move in. But, yeah, it was tough, bro. Like, the journey was tough. I made a faith move. So, in Atlanta.
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Speaker 2: That's the same thing Woody said. He told us he made a faith move. He was living with a friend.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I did a film with Vanessa Bell Calloway in Atlanta. It was called To Hell and Back, and she played my mom in the film. And she came to me, and she was like, Right now, you got to get out of Atlanta because at the time, Atlanta wasn't popping for acting like it is now. She was like, you got to go to L.A. or New York. And I was like, I ain't got no money to move to L.A. or New York. But I figured it out. I came out here, couch surfed for a little bit, for like a month. And I planned to go back to Atlanta. It was like a week before I had to go back home because I had ran out of money. Then I got the call, I booked New Edition, bro.
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Speaker 1: Damn.
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Speaker 3: And then after a while, I was shooting New Edition, I got the call, I booked Detroit. And right after Detroit, I booked the H.U.G. So it just kept going back and back.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of the same thing I think Chris Lofton said. That's my guy, too. I fuck with Chris Lofton.
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Speaker 3: He's dope as fuck. Good people, bro.
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Speaker 2: Y'all did so damn good in that new edition movie that I thought, because, okay, obviously as a kid, I don't remember Ike and Tina, right? I remember Angela Bassett.
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Speaker 1: Facts.
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Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: And Laurence Fishburne.
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Speaker 3: And Laurence Fishburne.
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Speaker 2: So when I think a new edition, I see y'all. That's just what it is for me. I see you guys. I know the music and stuff, but it's like, With older groups like that, we don't really remember what they actually look like because we didn't experience them. So when I think of new addition, I see y'all.
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Speaker 3: Who's biopic would y'all do next? If y'all had a choice to bring one to life, which one would y'all do?
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Speaker 1: We actually talked about this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did just talk about it.
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Speaker 1: I think Snoop was on the list, but we knew that was coming already. For me, I would like to see a standalone Ice Cube biopic. And then also, like, just because I'm biased a little bit, I would like to see Ice Cube. I want to see E-40. I want to see a DJ Quick.
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Speaker 3: DJ Quick would be hard, too.
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Speaker 1: Because, like, Quick is a genius, and people don't know the level of what he... Like, he talks about it now, but he's like, yeah, them is my drums on that Eminem record. And it's like, nigga, you what, nigga? You can't just drop that on the timeline. Nigga, what you mean? But, like, Quick is one of them. He's like a genius. And same thing with Warren G. Warren G, he's done so many things that people don't know about that I've talked to him about, and it's like, Why you don't? He's like, man, come on, cuz. And it's like, it'd be a lot of modesty amongst our legends.
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Speaker 3: That's what the homeboy told me, the homeboy Casanova, DJ. He was just telling me, like, I don't even understand how legendary Warren and Quick are.
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Speaker 1: Facts.
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Speaker 3: Like, legends. Like, they got some of the biggest West Coast records in history.
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Speaker 1: Facts.
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Speaker 3: That's a fact.
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Speaker 2: That's why I think we need a, it's like, obviously we keep getting, we've been getting really good biopics, but I think we need a hip hop series that's like a drama series that's just showing us. And we talked about this during, did you watch BMF?
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Speaker 3: I did, yeah.
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Speaker 2: So remember the last season of BMF, them last few episodes where they at the award show, supposedly the fight that happened, that's between Diddy and, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like, if they did something like that, that had, that just encompass all of hip-hop and a lot of musicians and things like that, like rappers and stuff, I think that'll be hard.
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Speaker 3: Hey, what we doing? I'm producing my own films now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be hard.
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Speaker 3: What we doing? I'm saying, it's the dream team right here.
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Speaker 2: Well, figure out, because they need to redo Tupac with the truth. They needed to redo Tupac with the truth. That was a long-ass music video. That was a lot of shit that was on YouTube. Show me the stuff that we don't know. I didn't like that the Tupac movie was just shit we don't know. And we're going to need a four-part series of Diddy with the truth. I don't want nothing that comes from Bad Boy Entertainment. I want it to be the truth. from a non-biased individual. Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 3: That's how I want it to be written. That's one thing I do appreciate about this Snoop biopic, though. When I read the script, they're not trying to sugarcoat nothing. They're showing him, I'm not going to give it away, but they're showing a lot of the gritty parts that you wouldn't think should be in the movie. And I appreciate that because they're not holding back. And I think it's going to be legendary.
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Speaker 1: That's what makes it the best thing, though. To add on, though, I want to add Mary J. Blige to that. I think we need that.
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Speaker 3: They just did it.
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Speaker 1: Which one?
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Speaker 2: Ain't it called My Life?
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Speaker 1: No, that was.
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Speaker 3: Oh, was the homegirl in that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, from BMF.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know. I didn't miss that one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. It was on Lifetime.
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Speaker 3: Was Da Vinci in there too? Or no, is that the wrong one?
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That one was My Life. depiction of the song.
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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Wait.
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Speaker 2: I don't fucking know. Yeah, I'm literally imagining it right now with Lifetime on it. I didn't watch it.
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, they definitely made one.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Mary J. Because I think like, but to your point, it got to be everything. Yeah, the bad. Because it's certain songs that we got, like, I think Usher is going to need one at some point. Because them albums that we like.
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Speaker 2: Usher, for sure.
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Speaker 1: The truth, though. The real shit. The real truth.
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Speaker 2: I want to see the cereal. I want to see niggas fighting over cereal. The truth, nigga.
00:20:12
Speaker 1: It's just certain niggas, like, I feel like we need that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: For sure.
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Speaker 3: Dang, that's some good ones.
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Speaker 2: With you originally being from Michigan, what was it like playing in Detroit?
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Speaker 3: That was wild. And to be my second major film, it was crazy. I just felt like I was so connected to home. I felt like there was a lot of pressure to represent as well. And the real guy, Larry Reed, he was still living. So that really happened to him and his boys in that annex, in that hotel. They really got beat. They really got tortured. So being able to go to his house and look at his family photos and just spend hours with him, I had a lot on my shoulders to be able to bring to life. But doing that film, it was a lot. I couldn't sleep doing that film. They had to give me melatonin every night.
00:20:57
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, is there any trauma attached to playing such a serious role like that?
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Speaker 3: For sure it is, yeah. I didn't know how to decompress at first, and I'm still learning. But I think you got to have– I'm a spiritual person, so if I get off of something like that, then I'm just going to cover myself and pray over myself.
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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: When I get off of set before I go on set, because, yeah, it can stick on you for sure. If you're playing a character for three months and every day you're coming into it, you're still a human, so repetition is real. So you're doing things for three months, you're coming in every day doing the same thing, it's going to get in your system.
00:21:29
Speaker 2: What's something you learned about Detroit that you didn't know before acting in the movie?
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Speaker 3: So I didn't know how in-depth the riots were. I knew it growing up a little bit, but I didn't know everything that happened that night and from those nights on. And so being able to do that film and getting schooled on that, I was just floored. I'm like, bro, it's just crazy. It's just crazy. Yeah, it's just crazy. I still be getting choked up about it now, but for people to experience that and, you know, for us as actors, it was hard enough being in that room and hearing them words come out the mouths of the other actors and, You know, the white actors. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot.
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Speaker 2: We don't talk about that. Like, when you guys are playing those roles as with, you know, like, with racial, hearing racial slurs.
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Speaker 3: And things like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, hold on, nigga.
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Speaker 3: Hold on, bro.
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Speaker 2: I might need that when the camera's cut.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I had a few takes, bro.
00:22:30
Speaker 2: You saying that hard R a little too hard.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the hard R.
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Speaker 1: You've been waiting on this moment.
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Speaker 3: But those are my guys, though. One thing I can say about Will Pulser, who played one of the cops, and Jack Rainer, like, After every take, they're like, yo, bro, is it too much? Is it good? Do we need to switch it up? So they was doing the best that they could, but it's still like, all right. All right, a little hard.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: There's two things I'm going to ask you about this, and then I'll move on. So season three got renewed of Euphoria. Would you ever entertain going back to that?
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Speaker 3: Wait, season three got renewed?
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Speaker 1: That's what I, yes.
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think I left on a good note and a good chapter. And I think character-wise, it would just be too much chaos for him to come back.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:23:17
Speaker 1: Okay. And then the second thing is, for you, are you upset when you have to leave something? Like, do you take it personal? Like, how do you deal with that?
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Speaker 3: It depends on the job.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes, more so than upset, it's like sad, bro, because you create families, you create community and people that you're talking to every day and y'all kicking each other house and um but i try not to get even though it's tough i try not to get so attached um but no it doesn't it's more sad than it is like.
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Speaker 1: Oh man more sad than angry okay now from a music standpoint otw come on um do you consider yourself to be emotional.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
00:24:05
Speaker 1: I know, but do you consider yourself... You are emotional. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But do you consider yourself to be emotional? I... Yeah, I do. But not like 50%. 50% is crazy.
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Speaker 3: 50 out of 100, yeah.
00:24:16
Speaker 1: 50 is a lot, though.
00:24:17
Speaker 3: I'm a Scorpio, bro.
00:24:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, yeah. So my question to you is, have you ever pulled up unannounced to somebody's house?
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Speaker 3: For sure.
00:24:25
Speaker 1: How did that go for you?
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Speaker 3: It went really well for me.
00:24:31
Speaker 1: You a toxic nigga, bro.
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie. It went really well for me. Like, it actually went a lot better than I expected.
00:24:37
Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I'll pick it up what you put down. I feel you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. Yeah, yeah. It went really good.
00:24:45
Speaker 1: Have you? One time.
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Speaker 3: One time?
00:24:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:24:49
Speaker 1: But it was her nigga that set it up. It was crazy. Don't worry about it.
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Speaker 3: Tomo, Tomo, Tomo.
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Speaker 1: Nah, he wanted to catch her, and it was some bullshit. It was, I was like, I was like, it was like 20, I was like 23.
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Speaker 2: He participated in the Hello.
00:25:03
Speaker 1: Barber, this is shit. Yeah, I participated in some bullshit. I ain't proud of it, but it happened. But it was, it was some bullshit, though. Nigga, her mama was involved in the bullshit, though. Her mama knew the nigga was living with him, bro. Anyway.
00:25:16
Speaker 3: You ain't going to win that one. That nigga ain't going, no, mama like him, and you in the crib.
00:25:21
Speaker 1: Bro, the mama was in on the book. Anyway.
00:25:24
Speaker 2: The song is called OTW, On The Way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, On The Way.
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Speaker 2: But the lyrics you say, I like when you tell me you almost there. You said something like that. So is the song, are you saying I'm on my way to you or I'm on my way to a climax?
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Speaker 3: That's a good question.
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Speaker 1: I didn't even get that. That's good.
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Speaker 3: Good question. She be listening to them lyrics.
00:25:45
Speaker 1: She be listening to shit.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, that was the purpose of the song. The song was to do like a triple, a double entendre, but like a triple as well.
00:25:53
Speaker 1: You want to be a rapper on the low.
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Speaker 3: Low key. That's how I started, low key. I see why you got that. Yeah, so I wanted to do, the next project I'm putting out is called Scorpio and Me. And so I wanted to do something that kind of embodies, like, obviously the freaky side of a Scorpio.
00:26:09
Speaker 2: You going to drop in Scorpio season?
00:26:10
Speaker 3: For sure. My birthday time, November 7th. Yeah, around that time. But I wanted to do something that embodies, like, the sensual, sexual side. So, yeah, talking about her climaxing. But also, I'm at a point in my life to where I just feel like God just has me moving in such my purpose and destiny. And I don't want to miss nothing that God has for me. and I feel like I'm on the way to every single thing that is promised to me since I was a kid. And since I was a kid, my vision has been very vivid on where I'm going to be in life, and it's going on track for that. So it was kind of like a devil on a trance, like I'm on the way to my destiny, but also, yeah, she on the way to climaxing for sure.
00:26:49
Speaker 2: When you were a kid, did you ever imagine yourself doing anything? Because I know you've been in the industry for a long time, but did you ever imagine yourself doing anything other than entertainment?
00:27:01
Speaker 3: Not really. I wanted to... For like two years, I wanted to go to the Air Force. Is that right? That shit quickly went out the window. That shit quickly went out the window. The one that the scouts ran up on you? Yeah, I was at the mall. I was at the mall.
00:27:17
Speaker 2: That's in my notes to ask you if you ever ran into any of the mall scouts. The mall talent scouts. They wanted like 4,000 for a headshot.
00:27:23
Speaker 1: Yes, bro.
00:27:24
Speaker 2: Happy thinking I was going to be on Disney Channel.
00:27:26
Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 3: Oh, my God. They be out there, too.
00:27:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, they be out there.
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Speaker 3: Nah, but when I did my first... When I, first of all, when I did my first song in the studio, when I did my first performance live, I knew then, like, okay, I got the bug. Like, I don't want to put this down. Then when I did my first acting job, I'm like, yeah, this is what I'm, all of this, whatever these things are together is what I'm supposed to be doing.
00:27:49
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:27:50
Speaker 2: If they ever do a B2K biopic.
00:27:54
Speaker 3: There you go.
00:27:55
Speaker 2: You already know what I'm about to say?
00:27:56
Speaker 3: I already know. Yeah, I already heard it. Yeah, yeah.
00:27:58
Speaker 1: J-Book.
00:28:00
Speaker 3: After this, I don't know if I'll do any more biopics. Hell no.
00:28:04
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to.
00:28:07
Speaker 3: It has to be like the Snoop is so iconic that you can't not do Snoop biopic.
00:28:12
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
00:28:12
Speaker 2: What if they call you for hoes?
00:28:14
Speaker 3: Who I'm going to play in there?
00:28:16
Speaker 2: I just wanted you to do that. See if you know how to do it. I don't.
00:28:21
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think there's any more that I would do, to be honest, after this one. It has to be like, I don't know. I don't know.
00:28:29
Speaker 2: If they do B2K within the next 10, 15.
00:28:32
Speaker 3: I can't do it.
00:28:32
Speaker 2: You wouldn't do it?
00:28:33
Speaker 3: I can't do it.
00:28:35
Speaker 2: Did people say you look like Jay Boog growing up?
00:28:37
Speaker 3: I've heard it, yeah, for sure. I've heard of Jay Boog. I've heard of Lorenz Tate. I've heard.
00:28:41
Speaker 1: Lorenz Tate for sure. You look like Councilman Tate.
00:28:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
00:28:46
Speaker 1: You look like Councilman Tate for sure. Nigga, I was about to say that. You do look like Councilman Tate, nigga. Oh, man.
00:28:53
Speaker 3: That's my guy. Me and Lorenz have something coming out together. Myself, Lorenz, and Nia Long have a film coming out together.
00:29:00
Speaker 2: Not You Try to Love, Jonestown. You done loved your own son?
00:29:04
Speaker 3: Nobody said son, but it's in that world. It's in that world. It's in that world.
00:29:09
Speaker 1: When is that coming, nigga? Nigga, that ain't even notes. What you mean?
00:29:14
Speaker 3: It's like top of the year. It's going to be on Netflix. It's called Don't Ever Wonder. I'm going to be fired.
00:29:20
Speaker 2: Shut up.
00:29:21
Speaker 1: Bro, you going to need a CPA.
00:29:22
Speaker 3: He done loved your own son. I know, I know.
00:29:23
Speaker 1: You going to need a CPA, nigga. Your year is stupid, nigga. You know what I'm saying?
00:29:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
00:29:29
Speaker 1: That's tight. That's dope.
00:29:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a blessing, bro. It's a blessing to be able to Honestly, man, it's a blessing to be able to just keep working, bro. The strike, COVID, a lot of people in just multiple industries just didn't make it. You know what I'm saying? So for me to be able to have some consistency, obviously my life ain't just all this, it's ups and downs for sure, but to be able to be consistently working year after year is just a blessing.
00:29:55
Speaker 1: Bro, I'm so... I'm just so impressed. That was a bomb you just dropped. That was fire, niggas. Lorenz Tate and Nia Longus, nigga, them is legends.
00:30:02
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, yeah. The film is crazy, bro. The film is great.
00:30:06
Speaker 1: Can you tell us anything?
00:30:10
Speaker 3: I want to know what they put online.
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Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 3: I'm bad at this. I'm going to say something.
00:30:18
Speaker 2: All right, all right.
00:30:19
Speaker 1: No, no, no. We don't want to have you fucking.
00:30:22
Speaker 3: Let's just say Love Jones-esque is for sure It's in that whole world.
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Speaker 1: It's in the whole world. All the people that.
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Speaker 3: Love Love Jones are going to absolutely love this.
00:30:31
Speaker 1: We don't want to have you Steve Lacey this shit.
00:30:37
Speaker 2: Give us your top five iconic black films.
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Speaker 3: Top five iconic black films. I'm going to do mine. I'll go with Higher Learning. I'll go with.
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Speaker 1: Juice.
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Speaker 3: I'll go with Do the Right Thing. I'll go with Love Jones. And then I'll go with Friday.
00:31:05
Speaker 2: I was waiting for some West Coast.
00:31:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go with Friday for sure.
00:31:08
Speaker 2: I've been here too long. Okay.
00:31:10
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate you for coming through, bro. I appreciate y'all, bro. You one of them niggas already, which is crazy. Congrats on everything, bro, for real.
00:31:20
Speaker 3: Thank you, bro. God willing, a long way to go, man. Y'all... I appreciate y'all, bro. Y'all are like in front of the culture, bro. You feel what I'm saying?
00:31:28
Speaker 2: Thank you.
00:31:29
Speaker 3: Real talk. Real talk. Voices are big, bro. For sure.
00:31:31
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. For sure. Well, we're going to definitely, I'm going to play this song in the mix and see what people think about it, too.
00:31:38
Speaker 3: Y'all give me honest reactions, too. You feel me?
00:31:40
Speaker 1: Oh, no.
00:31:40
Speaker 3: Listen to it. Give me all the way honest reactions.
00:31:43
Speaker 1: Our people are very honest. All right. Good. Trust me. You'll be good. Algie Smith is here. It's Effective Immediately. Effective Immediately, a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. You can hit us collectively at Effective Immediately and make sure you hit that subscribe button on all our platforms.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Effective Immediately, a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Yo, it's Effective Immediately. I'm DJ Head.
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Speaker 2: What up, bro? This your favorite homegirl, Gina Buse.
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Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building with us. So many hyphenates. Actor, playing legends out here, R & B writer, producer, all of the things. Algie Smith is here.
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Speaker 3: All right, what's the deal? What's the deal?
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, man.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, bro. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Nah.
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Speaker 2: Welcome Warren G.
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Speaker 1: Let's wake it up.
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Speaker 3: To the show. It was a cool black night.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Did you have to do that? I want to talk about that. I don't know. I mean, let's fuck it. We here. But did you have to like rap a song for the audition? Because I heard shit about the auditions.
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Speaker 3: What did you hear though first?
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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on. So you're playing Warren G in the new Snoop biopic.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
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Speaker 1: Congratulations.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, bro.
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Speaker 1: First of all, before I get in your business.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, bro.
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Speaker 1: But I heard. different things about these auditions. Like, I heard from one side, it was like, man, this was intense because of the pressure. And then I heard nigga had to rap for real.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like, nigga, like, they not playing. Like, you better get up there and do them songs.
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Speaker 3: Funny enough, bro, when the audition came through, it was BET weekend, and we was out doing a lot of moving. And the audition came through, and I was like, I don't really think I'm right to play Warren, so I'm not even going to audition. And then something told me, just like, bro, just send the tape in. Just send the audition in. So I went back to the crib.
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Speaker 1: We did a self-tape.
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Speaker 3: We did a self-tape. Went back to the crib. In between parties, I left the party, went to the crib, recorded a self-tape, went back outside. Then I get the call the next day, like, okay, they want to see you for the callback. I'm like, damn, so, all right, so I must be right for the role. But then it was like, you got to rap. So I had to learn a lot of Warren verses and then come back and do that part of it. But it was, I'm naturally musically inclined, though, bro. So it wasn't tough. And I know all that music anyway. So it was just like, it was easy for me.
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Speaker 2: I want to hear your Warren G audition accent.
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Speaker 3: Oh, man, I can't do it right now, Snoop. Oh, man, G-Dub. I got it. I need a little more.
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Speaker 1: I need a little more.
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Speaker 3: No, that's good.
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Speaker 2: You sound just like him sitting right there.
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Speaker 3: He said, my homeboy, G-Dub.
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Speaker 2: You just got to drag your words.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to drag it a little more. He got like a southern twang to it. It's not fully L.A. It's like some south in there as well, but like you said, it's real slow, too.
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Speaker 2: Have you met Warren G yet?
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Speaker 1: Not yet.
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Speaker 3: Not yet. I just signed my deal yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: He said, not yet.
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Speaker 2: When you was a kid listening to West Coast music, did you ever think you would be playing Warren G in a Snoop Dogg biopic?
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Speaker 3: Hell no. That's crazy. Hell no, I never did. The moment came full circle, too, because me and Snoop did an interview years ago when he had GGM. Mm-hmm. did an interview after the new audition story and we've been locked in since then. So when the audition came back around, I'm like, bro, it's just full circle.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was dope.
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Speaker 2: Were there, was there anybody else that's like part of the West Coast story that you would have wanted to play?
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Speaker 3: Um, no, not for real. I can't even say. I don't know. Nah. Who you think I could have played other than Warren?
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Speaker 2: Um, you kind of a little lighter, but I wouldn't have been mad at Karrueche.
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Speaker 3: I'm way lighter. They can put some makeup on you. Blackface. You can blackface it out. The homies playing Corrupt, the homie Ali, I don't think he's going to do it. I think he's going to kill it. But yeah, Corrupt, that's a tough one to play too, bro, because just his lyricism and the way he carried it, so that's tough. So Ali got a job to do for sure.
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Speaker 2: How difficult is it, do you think, to accomplish the West Coast accent that they say we have? Because we don't hear it.
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Speaker 1: We don't hear it at all.
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Speaker 3: I think it's very tough. I think, especially if you're not from here, people can try and do it and put their own little thing on it. But to do it right, though, I think is very tough. And you got to, like, really be locked in. The homie who's playing Snoop, though, he's locked in for sure. Yeah. Yeah, JD's locked in for sure.
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Speaker 2: Y'all get on the phone talking like Warren G and Snoop Dogg?
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Speaker 3: We were just outside last night talking like them.
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Speaker 2: Are you serious?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a thousand percent.
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Speaker 2: Y'all just having a full-blown conversation with a West Coast accent.
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Speaker 3: We performed Ain't No Fun at karaoke and everything. Oh, that's hard!
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Speaker 1: Nobody recorded that shit? Yeah, we got to record it. Okay, we'll go up and get that footage.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to run that.
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Speaker 2: Karaoke.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? What was the first Warren song you learned?
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Speaker 3: Regulators, for sure. But when I was younger, though. I knew Regulators when I was younger. I had to learn this DJ. Recently It was a classic And then I just went through All the album cuts I've been going through All the album cuts So like Smoking Me Out To The Shack To Just all the ones That's like deep cuts Just so I can fully embody And then hopefully I'll do a good job for him You know what I'm saying That's my main goal For him to look at it And be like Yeah you killed it.
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Speaker 1: For me That's fire bro That's so dope G-Dub is my big homie So like When I saw that I was like Okay Okay this is cool Cause like you know Niggas be critical with they legends. Niggas be feeling away when they don't get it right. And we should, though.
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Speaker 3: We should be very critical of that, for sure. You can't play with that. If somebody's so legendary, and I've been blessed enough to be able to play some iconic people, but with that comes such a heavy burden on your shoulder because you don't want to mess it up for the people that already know it. It's not like you're making up a character. You got people that already know these people and love these people so much. So you got to do so well that they forget that they're watching you.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: That's a challenge.
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Speaker 2: You have the majority or a lot of your roles are rooted in either it's like a biopic or a real historical moment that, you know, that happened in history. Do for you, is there any, like, is it, is the pressure different with you depicting a role from like a fictional character versus somebody that you know is actually watching you portray them?
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Speaker 3: A thousand percent. You don't want to get it wrong. Like when I did, when we, when I did New Edition, And play Ralph. It was so intimidating because they're right in front of us rehearsing for a tour while we're right behind them rehearsing for the movie.
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Speaker 1: Oh, no shit.
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Speaker 3: But we're not as clean as them, obviously. So you got them looking back like, I better get together. You feel me? But it's a lot more pressure because, again, so many people in the world love these people. And you got to find the little things that you can do. almost exactly like them, so when people just forget that they watching.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: What was something from, did you ever get any advice or gain from Ralph Tresman?
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Speaker 3: He honestly told me, he put, we was in a room talking together after one of the rehearsals, and he kind of saw I was kind of stressed out about it, and he was just like, bro, you got the role already. You already, the hardest part is done. He was like, we relate on so much already. I'm a mama's boy. You a mama's boy. I do this. You do that. Just go out there and do your version of it. Don't try to fully be me. After that, it was like water.
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Speaker 1: What about singing? Because you mentioned you started going back in the Warren G catalog when you got ready for the new edition thing. You already a singer.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So is that less pressure, less prep?
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Speaker 3: It was more pressure because Babyface was in the room. You had Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis in the room. You had the head of BET in the room. Everybody's in the room just watching. So even though you a singer, you like, I got to sing this song in front of people who wrote this song. So they got to, you know what I'm saying? I remember the first audition I did, they was like, it was good, but just do less of the runs. Just do less of the coloring. Just stick to the basic. I was like, all right, cool, cool, cool.
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Speaker 2: Do you have more freedom as an actor when it is a fake character?
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Speaker 3: Yes, you have more freedom because you can color outside the lines a lot more. I like the way you put that. When it's a real character, like I said, you kind of got to be spot on as much as you can to represent for them. But yeah, if I'm playing a character that's not real, that's my world. I'm taking everything and putting it how I want to put it.
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Speaker 1: As an actor, not as a singer, but as an actor, what parts of the... When you're singing a song as an actor, is that the same thing as singing as a singer? Is that a weird question?
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Speaker 3: That's a good question, bro. I've never heard that question like that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how to say it, but I just said it how I thought it.
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Speaker 3: Nah, it's not different. Well, for me, it's not different. When I sing a song, I'm singing as a singer, whether I'm acting or not.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That's why I was asking, because I was talking to some people who do love scenes.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: And they were like, I was like, how does your husband handle you doing love scenes? Like, if you kissing this nigga the same way you kiss him. So I was wondering if it was parallel from actors and singers and rappers and actors. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: What did that person say?
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Speaker 1: They was like, no, it's different. Like, that's acting, and the way I kiss my husband is different. I'm like, how the fuck? Like, where do you go in your mind to have two different kissing styles? Yeah, that's a fact. You know what I mean? So I don't know where you're pulling that from.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. There's definitely a such thing as acting and real chemistry. So I've done love scenes before, and I didn't feel anything after it. So I definitely feel what they're talking about. You can't separate for sure, especially if you really aren't attracted to the person. Then it's like, okay, I just got to do the job.
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Speaker 2: How do you act well in a love scene if you're not attracted to.
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Speaker 1: The person, though?
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Speaker 3: Acting class. You got to think about that check you're going to get at the end of it all. Okay, I'm doing it for the finish line.
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Speaker 2: Do you feel it in the moment?
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Speaker 3: Sometimes. It just depends. It just depends. I haven't had a lot of love scenes in films. Okay, I'll take that back. I've had quite a few.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to say. That's Cap, nigga.
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Speaker 2: Nigga, that's Cap.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: No, you don't feel it all the time. I think it just depends. It's situational.
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Speaker 2: What about, okay, so you're an actor, but you're also a musician.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
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Speaker 2: What skills have you picked up from either world that you used in the other?
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Speaker 3: Oh great question uh the embodiment of characters and acting I'll take that over to the music I think some of the best music artists it's one of the most colorful music artists you look at Busta Rhymes you look at Nicki Minaj you look at people that just use a lot of inflections and characters and voices in their in their work when you act out a scene and then you know the The why behind the scene, like why I'm doing this, my reason for doing this, the tactics I'm going to use to do that. You take that in the studio and you're like, okay, how do I convey this emotion? Do I want people to cry when they hear it? Do I want people to smile when they hear it? It's kind of like the same thing, pulling from it.
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Speaker 2: With you being an actor, does that help the way you tell stories in music?
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Speaker 3: For sure. For sure, for sure, yeah. I already was just like a poet, like a lyricist. But yeah, being an actor helps you vividly tell the story a lot more because... The crazy thing is, like, when you're acting, you have, like, two hours to tell the story. When you're doing a song, you got two to three minutes to tell the story.
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Speaker 1: So you got.
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Speaker 3: To get to it. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So it's a little different, but I kind of use the same emotional draws for both of them.
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Speaker 1: What about coming of age? Has that been difficult for you? Like, because you started early.
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Speaker 3: I started acting when I was, like, 15, 16. So, you know, I'm grateful that I didn't start too early. Why? Because I had some normalcy growing up.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Oh, you got to be a kid.
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Speaker 3: Man, what? I grew up in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: Hot.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Being a kid, just doing regular things and falling in love with music first. And then music led me into the acting. You know, it's a lot of stories, and everybody's story ain't like this, but it's a lot of stories where, you know, you're a child actor and you go through so much trauma. And by the time you're 18, 20 years old, it's like you don't even want to do it no more.
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Speaker 1: You're burnt out. Yeah, you're burnt out.
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Speaker 3: It's crazy, bro, literally.
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Speaker 1: Or you're getting committed. Like, it'd be all kind of shit going on. Did you ever have a situation, like, I don't want to say, because I don't remember what age New Edition actually got their record deal. I know it was fairly young. But did you ever have any mentors like they had?
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Speaker 3: Not really. To be honest with you, I'm just now getting good at being like a mentee.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 3: And figuring out like, you know, what that is and asking for more help. And my personality is the type where I just, I don't like to ask for help. I don't like to bug people. I like to just figure it out. But that kills it though. When you got too much pride, it's like you're not going to get to the next level. People want to help you.
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Speaker 1: What's your sign?
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Speaker 3: I'm a Scorpio.
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Speaker 1: Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: But I'm doing greater. I'm doing much better now. I be bugging niggas now. You don't know nothing about Scorpios.
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Speaker 1: I know a few things.
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Speaker 2: Talking about some old shit.
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Speaker 1: I know a few things. I'm Capricorn.
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Speaker 3: Are you a Capricorn?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the niggas don't really fuck with me. But go ahead.
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Speaker 3: Damn, why though?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Just go ahead. Keep going.
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Speaker 3: I guess we gonna see in a couple months. I was like, nigga, I don't fuck with you. You was right. You was right, nigga. I don't... No, but I got some good mentors in my corner now, and I be bugging them. So now I'm doing a lot better because I just realized just as a human being, you need people, bro. Like, you need people. You need community to get to the next area, to the next step. Just to get further in life, you need people along the journey. So I'm doing much better. I be bugging the hell out of my mentors now.
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Speaker 2: What was it specifically that made you say or understand, like, I need a community. I need people. I can be a mentee.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I hit a wall. I think I got, I think I hit a ceiling, you know. The talent and skill only went so far. And relationships is one of the biggest things that can get you in the door. Relationships can get you in the door before talent can sometimes.
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Speaker 1: Facts.
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Speaker 3: So you got both of them paired with each other and then, you know what I'm saying? So I think that's what it was to me. I want more for myself and I know that's not going to happen unless I, you know, allow myself to have more community.
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Speaker 2: Can we go back to New Edition? Woody, Woody McClain told us a crazy story about how he got casted.
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Speaker 3: What was his story?
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Speaker 2: He said, I want to say he went, didn't he tell us he went for something else? He went for something else, right?
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Speaker 3: Same thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I went for Mike Bivens at first.
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Speaker 2: And he told, really?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: He told us that his, he won him over because he could dance.
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Speaker 3: I think he got on a table and started dancing in an audition. Yeah, he's right.
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Speaker 2: He said he knew he couldn't sing. Yeah, he was like, I'm going to dance. That's smart. He outperformed everybody.
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Speaker 1: That's smart.
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Speaker 2: So why did you want to go for Bivens at first?
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Speaker 3: That's what they had me going for. So I was in Atlanta that first New Edition audition. And Robbie Reed, legendary casting director. I love Robbie so much. Some of my more better blues. Just legendary films that we all know. She had me come in and read for Mike, and I read for him, and I did not do good in that audition at all. And she came out before I left, and she was like, can you just stay for, like, five more minutes? I want you to read for Ralph just to see what we got. And I'm like, yeah, all right. And I read, and I didn't hear nothing back for months. And then I came out here to L.A. on, like, a faith trip. Nothing to do with New Edition.
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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: I came out here to audition for other things, and then I ended up getting a callback for a new audition while I was here. And then I've just been here off that trip ever since, like, 12 years.
00:15:07
Speaker 1: Oh, you just never left.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just kept looking after that. I just moved in. Yeah, LA, I like y'all. I'm going to move in. But, yeah, it was tough, bro. Like, the journey was tough. I made a faith move. So, in Atlanta.
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Speaker 2: That's the same thing Woody said. He told us he made a faith move. He was living with a friend.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I did a film with Vanessa Bell Calloway in Atlanta. It was called To Hell and Back, and she played my mom in the film. And she came to me, and she was like, Right now, you got to get out of Atlanta because at the time, Atlanta wasn't popping for acting like it is now. She was like, you got to go to L.A. or New York. And I was like, I ain't got no money to move to L.A. or New York. But I figured it out. I came out here, couch surfed for a little bit, for like a month. And I planned to go back to Atlanta. It was like a week before I had to go back home because I had ran out of money. Then I got the call, I booked New Edition, bro.
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Speaker 1: Damn.
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Speaker 3: And then after a while, I was shooting New Edition, I got the call, I booked Detroit. And right after Detroit, I booked the H.U.G. So it just kept going back and back.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of the same thing I think Chris Lofton said. That's my guy, too. I fuck with Chris Lofton.
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Speaker 3: He's dope as fuck. Good people, bro.
00:16:05
Speaker 2: Y'all did so damn good in that new edition movie that I thought, because, okay, obviously as a kid, I don't remember Ike and Tina, right? I remember Angela Bassett.
00:16:15
Speaker 1: Facts.
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Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: And Laurence Fishburne.
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Speaker 3: And Laurence Fishburne.
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Speaker 2: So when I think a new edition, I see y'all. That's just what it is for me. I see you guys. I know the music and stuff, but it's like, With older groups like that, we don't really remember what they actually look like because we didn't experience them. So when I think of new addition, I see y'all.
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Speaker 3: Who's biopic would y'all do next? If y'all had a choice to bring one to life, which one would y'all do?
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Speaker 1: We actually talked about this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did just talk about it.
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Speaker 1: I think Snoop was on the list, but we knew that was coming already. For me, I would like to see a standalone Ice Cube biopic. And then also, like, just because I'm biased a little bit, I would like to see Ice Cube. I want to see E-40. I want to see a DJ Quick.
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Speaker 3: DJ Quick would be hard, too.
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Speaker 1: Because, like, Quick is a genius, and people don't know the level of what he... Like, he talks about it now, but he's like, yeah, them is my drums on that Eminem record. And it's like, nigga, you what, nigga? You can't just drop that on the timeline. Nigga, what you mean? But, like, Quick is one of them. He's like a genius. And same thing with Warren G. Warren G, he's done so many things that people don't know about that I've talked to him about, and it's like, Why you don't? He's like, man, come on, cuz. And it's like, it'd be a lot of modesty amongst our legends.
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Speaker 3: That's what the homeboy told me, the homeboy Casanova, DJ. He was just telling me, like, I don't even understand how legendary Warren and Quick are.
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Speaker 1: Facts.
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Speaker 3: Like, legends. Like, they got some of the biggest West Coast records in history.
00:17:39
Speaker 1: Facts.
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Speaker 3: That's a fact.
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Speaker 2: That's why I think we need a, it's like, obviously we keep getting, we've been getting really good biopics, but I think we need a hip hop series that's like a drama series that's just showing us. And we talked about this during, did you watch BMF?
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Speaker 3: I did, yeah.
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Speaker 2: So remember the last season of BMF, them last few episodes where they at the award show, supposedly the fight that happened, that's between Diddy and, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like, if they did something like that, that had, that just encompass all of hip-hop and a lot of musicians and things like that, like rappers and stuff, I think that'll be hard.
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Speaker 3: Hey, what we doing? I'm producing my own films now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be hard.
00:18:15
Speaker 3: What we doing? I'm saying, it's the dream team right here.
00:18:17
Speaker 2: Well, figure out, because they need to redo Tupac with the truth. They needed to redo Tupac with the truth. That was a long-ass music video. That was a lot of shit that was on YouTube. Show me the stuff that we don't know. I didn't like that the Tupac movie was just shit we don't know. And we're going to need a four-part series of Diddy with the truth. I don't want nothing that comes from Bad Boy Entertainment. I want it to be the truth. from a non-biased individual. Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 3: That's how I want it to be written. That's one thing I do appreciate about this Snoop biopic, though. When I read the script, they're not trying to sugarcoat nothing. They're showing him, I'm not going to give it away, but they're showing a lot of the gritty parts that you wouldn't think should be in the movie. And I appreciate that because they're not holding back. And I think it's going to be legendary.
00:19:09
Speaker 1: That's what makes it the best thing, though. To add on, though, I want to add Mary J. Blige to that. I think we need that.
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Speaker 3: They just did it.
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Speaker 1: Which one?
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Speaker 2: Ain't it called My Life?
00:19:19
Speaker 1: No, that was.
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Speaker 3: Oh, was the homegirl in that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, from BMF.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know. I didn't miss that one.
00:19:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. It was on Lifetime.
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Speaker 3: Was Da Vinci in there too? Or no, is that the wrong one?
00:19:30
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That one was My Life. depiction of the song.
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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay. Yeah.
00:19:41
Speaker 1: Wait.
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Speaker 2: I don't fucking know. Yeah, I'm literally imagining it right now with Lifetime on it. I didn't watch it.
00:19:47
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
00:19:48
Speaker 2: But yeah, they definitely made one.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Mary J. Because I think like, but to your point, it got to be everything. Yeah, the bad. Because it's certain songs that we got, like, I think Usher is going to need one at some point. Because them albums that we like.
00:20:01
Speaker 2: Usher, for sure.
00:20:02
Speaker 1: The truth, though. The real shit. The real truth.
00:20:05
Speaker 2: I want to see the cereal. I want to see niggas fighting over cereal. The truth, nigga.
00:20:12
Speaker 1: It's just certain niggas, like, I feel like we need that.
00:20:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:20:15
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: For sure.
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Speaker 3: Dang, that's some good ones.
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Speaker 2: With you originally being from Michigan, what was it like playing in Detroit?
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Speaker 3: That was wild. And to be my second major film, it was crazy. I just felt like I was so connected to home. I felt like there was a lot of pressure to represent as well. And the real guy, Larry Reed, he was still living. So that really happened to him and his boys in that annex, in that hotel. They really got beat. They really got tortured. So being able to go to his house and look at his family photos and just spend hours with him, I had a lot on my shoulders to be able to bring to life. But doing that film, it was a lot. I couldn't sleep doing that film. They had to give me melatonin every night.
00:20:57
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, is there any trauma attached to playing such a serious role like that?
00:21:02
Speaker 3: For sure it is, yeah. I didn't know how to decompress at first, and I'm still learning. But I think you got to have– I'm a spiritual person, so if I get off of something like that, then I'm just going to cover myself and pray over myself.
00:21:15
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
00:21:15
Speaker 3: When I get off of set before I go on set, because, yeah, it can stick on you for sure. If you're playing a character for three months and every day you're coming into it, you're still a human, so repetition is real. So you're doing things for three months, you're coming in every day doing the same thing, it's going to get in your system.
00:21:29
Speaker 2: What's something you learned about Detroit that you didn't know before acting in the movie?
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Speaker 3: So I didn't know how in-depth the riots were. I knew it growing up a little bit, but I didn't know everything that happened that night and from those nights on. And so being able to do that film and getting schooled on that, I was just floored. I'm like, bro, it's just crazy. It's just crazy. Yeah, it's just crazy. I still be getting choked up about it now, but for people to experience that and, you know, for us as actors, it was hard enough being in that room and hearing them words come out the mouths of the other actors and, You know, the white actors. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot.
00:22:15
Speaker 2: We don't talk about that. Like, when you guys are playing those roles as with, you know, like, with racial, hearing racial slurs.
00:22:21
Speaker 3: And things like that.
00:22:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, hold on, nigga.
00:22:23
Speaker 3: Hold on, bro.
00:22:25
Speaker 2: I might need that when the camera's cut.
00:22:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I had a few takes, bro.
00:22:30
Speaker 2: You saying that hard R a little too hard.
00:22:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, the hard R.
00:22:33
Speaker 1: You've been waiting on this moment.
00:22:35
Speaker 3: But those are my guys, though. One thing I can say about Will Pulser, who played one of the cops, and Jack Rainer, like, After every take, they're like, yo, bro, is it too much? Is it good? Do we need to switch it up? So they was doing the best that they could, but it's still like, all right. All right, a little hard.
00:22:51
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:22:52
Speaker 1: There's two things I'm going to ask you about this, and then I'll move on. So season three got renewed of Euphoria. Would you ever entertain going back to that?
00:23:01
Speaker 3: Wait, season three got renewed?
00:23:02
Speaker 1: That's what I, yes.
00:23:05
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think I left on a good note and a good chapter. And I think character-wise, it would just be too much chaos for him to come back.
00:23:16
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:23:17
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:23:17
Speaker 1: Okay. And then the second thing is, for you, are you upset when you have to leave something? Like, do you take it personal? Like, how do you deal with that?
00:23:29
Speaker 3: It depends on the job.
00:23:30
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:23:30
Speaker 3: Sometimes, more so than upset, it's like sad, bro, because you create families, you create community and people that you're talking to every day and y'all kicking each other house and um but i try not to get even though it's tough i try not to get so attached um but no it doesn't it's more sad than it is like.
00:23:52
Speaker 1: Oh man more sad than angry okay now from a music standpoint otw come on um do you consider yourself to be emotional.
00:24:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
00:24:05
Speaker 1: I know, but do you consider yourself... You are emotional. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But do you consider yourself to be emotional? I... Yeah, I do. But not like 50%. 50% is crazy.
00:24:16
Speaker 3: 50 out of 100, yeah.
00:24:16
Speaker 1: 50 is a lot, though.
00:24:17
Speaker 3: I'm a Scorpio, bro.
00:24:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, yeah. So my question to you is, have you ever pulled up unannounced to somebody's house?
00:24:24
Speaker 3: For sure.
00:24:25
Speaker 1: How did that go for you?
00:24:29
Speaker 3: It went really well for me.
00:24:31
Speaker 1: You a toxic nigga, bro.
00:24:33
Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie. It went really well for me. Like, it actually went a lot better than I expected.
00:24:37
Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I'll pick it up what you put down. I feel you.
00:24:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. Yeah, yeah. It went really good.
00:24:45
Speaker 1: Have you? One time.
00:24:47
Speaker 3: One time?
00:24:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:24:49
Speaker 1: But it was her nigga that set it up. It was crazy. Don't worry about it.
00:24:53
Speaker 3: Tomo, Tomo, Tomo.
00:24:55
Speaker 1: Nah, he wanted to catch her, and it was some bullshit. It was, I was like, I was like, it was like 20, I was like 23.
00:25:01
Speaker 2: He participated in the Hello.
00:25:03
Speaker 1: Barber, this is shit. Yeah, I participated in some bullshit. I ain't proud of it, but it happened. But it was, it was some bullshit, though. Nigga, her mama was involved in the bullshit, though. Her mama knew the nigga was living with him, bro. Anyway.
00:25:16
Speaker 3: You ain't going to win that one. That nigga ain't going, no, mama like him, and you in the crib.
00:25:21
Speaker 1: Bro, the mama was in on the book. Anyway.
00:25:24
Speaker 2: The song is called OTW, On The Way.
00:25:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, On The Way.
00:25:27
Speaker 2: But the lyrics you say, I like when you tell me you almost there. You said something like that. So is the song, are you saying I'm on my way to you or I'm on my way to a climax?
00:25:40
Speaker 3: That's a good question.
00:25:40
Speaker 1: I didn't even get that. That's good.
00:25:43
Speaker 3: Good question. She be listening to them lyrics.
00:25:45
Speaker 1: She be listening to shit.
00:25:47
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was the purpose of the song. The song was to do like a triple, a double entendre, but like a triple as well.
00:25:53
Speaker 1: You want to be a rapper on the low.
00:25:54
Speaker 3: Low key. That's how I started, low key. I see why you got that. Yeah, so I wanted to do, the next project I'm putting out is called Scorpio and Me. And so I wanted to do something that kind of embodies, like, obviously the freaky side of a Scorpio.
00:26:09
Speaker 2: You going to drop in Scorpio season?
00:26:10
Speaker 3: For sure. My birthday time, November 7th. Yeah, around that time. But I wanted to do something that embodies, like, the sensual, sexual side. So, yeah, talking about her climaxing. But also, I'm at a point in my life to where I just feel like God just has me moving in such my purpose and destiny. And I don't want to miss nothing that God has for me. and I feel like I'm on the way to every single thing that is promised to me since I was a kid. And since I was a kid, my vision has been very vivid on where I'm going to be in life, and it's going on track for that. So it was kind of like a devil on a trance, like I'm on the way to my destiny, but also, yeah, she on the way to climaxing for sure.
00:26:49
Speaker 2: When you were a kid, did you ever imagine yourself doing anything? Because I know you've been in the industry for a long time, but did you ever imagine yourself doing anything other than entertainment?
00:27:01
Speaker 3: Not really. I wanted to... For like two years, I wanted to go to the Air Force. Is that right? That shit quickly went out the window. That shit quickly went out the window. The one that the scouts ran up on you? Yeah, I was at the mall. I was at the mall.
00:27:17
Speaker 2: That's in my notes to ask you if you ever ran into any of the mall scouts. The mall talent scouts. They wanted like 4,000 for a headshot.
00:27:23
Speaker 1: Yes, bro.
00:27:24
Speaker 2: Happy thinking I was going to be on Disney Channel.
00:27:26
Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
00:27:27
Speaker 3: Oh, my God. They be out there, too.
00:27:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, they be out there.
00:27:31
Speaker 3: Nah, but when I did my first... When I, first of all, when I did my first song in the studio, when I did my first performance live, I knew then, like, okay, I got the bug. Like, I don't want to put this down. Then when I did my first acting job, I'm like, yeah, this is what I'm, all of this, whatever these things are together is what I'm supposed to be doing.
00:27:49
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:27:50
Speaker 2: If they ever do a B2K biopic.
00:27:54
Speaker 3: There you go.
00:27:55
Speaker 2: You already know what I'm about to say?
00:27:56
Speaker 3: I already know. Yeah, I already heard it. Yeah, yeah.
00:27:58
Speaker 1: J-Book.
00:28:00
Speaker 3: After this, I don't know if I'll do any more biopics. Hell no.
00:28:04
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to.
00:28:07
Speaker 3: It has to be like the Snoop is so iconic that you can't not do Snoop biopic.
00:28:12
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
00:28:12
Speaker 2: What if they call you for hoes?
00:28:14
Speaker 3: Who I'm going to play in there?
00:28:16
Speaker 2: I just wanted you to do that. See if you know how to do it. I don't.
00:28:21
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think there's any more that I would do, to be honest, after this one. It has to be like, I don't know. I don't know.
00:28:29
Speaker 2: If they do B2K within the next 10, 15.
00:28:32
Speaker 3: I can't do it.
00:28:32
Speaker 2: You wouldn't do it?
00:28:33
Speaker 3: I can't do it.
00:28:35
Speaker 2: Did people say you look like Jay Boog growing up?
00:28:37
Speaker 3: I've heard it, yeah, for sure. I've heard of Jay Boog. I've heard of Lorenz Tate. I've heard.
00:28:41
Speaker 1: Lorenz Tate for sure. You look like Councilman Tate.
00:28:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
00:28:46
Speaker 1: You look like Councilman Tate for sure. Nigga, I was about to say that. You do look like Councilman Tate, nigga. Oh, man.
00:28:53
Speaker 3: That's my guy. Me and Lorenz have something coming out together. Myself, Lorenz, and Nia Long have a film coming out together.
00:29:00
Speaker 2: Not You Try to Love, Jonestown. You done loved your own son?
00:29:04
Speaker 3: Nobody said son, but it's in that world. It's in that world. It's in that world.
00:29:09
Speaker 1: When is that coming, nigga? Nigga, that ain't even notes. What you mean?
00:29:14
Speaker 3: It's like top of the year. It's going to be on Netflix. It's called Don't Ever Wonder. I'm going to be fired.
00:29:20
Speaker 2: Shut up.
00:29:21
Speaker 1: Bro, you going to need a CPA.
00:29:22
Speaker 3: He done loved your own son. I know, I know.
00:29:23
Speaker 1: You going to need a CPA, nigga. Your year is stupid, nigga. You know what I'm saying?
00:29:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
00:29:29
Speaker 1: That's tight. That's dope.
00:29:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a blessing, bro. It's a blessing to be able to Honestly, man, it's a blessing to be able to just keep working, bro. The strike, COVID, a lot of people in just multiple industries just didn't make it. You know what I'm saying? So for me to be able to have some consistency, obviously my life ain't just all this, it's ups and downs for sure, but to be able to be consistently working year after year is just a blessing.
00:29:55
Speaker 1: Bro, I'm so... I'm just so impressed. That was a bomb you just dropped. That was fire, niggas. Lorenz Tate and Nia Longus, nigga, them is legends.
00:30:02
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, yeah. The film is crazy, bro. The film is great.
00:30:06
Speaker 1: Can you tell us anything?
00:30:10
Speaker 3: I want to know what they put online.
00:30:13
Speaker 1: It is.
00:30:15
Speaker 3: I'm bad at this. I'm going to say something.
00:30:18
Speaker 2: All right, all right.
00:30:19
Speaker 1: No, no, no. We don't want to have you fucking.
00:30:22
Speaker 3: Let's just say Love Jones-esque is for sure It's in that whole world.
00:30:27
Speaker 1: It's in the whole world. All the people that.
00:30:29
Speaker 3: Love Love Jones are going to absolutely love this.
00:30:31
Speaker 1: We don't want to have you Steve Lacey this shit.
00:30:37
Speaker 2: Give us your top five iconic black films.
00:30:41
Speaker 3: Top five iconic black films. I'm going to do mine. I'll go with Higher Learning. I'll go with.
00:30:53
Speaker 1: Juice.
00:30:55
Speaker 3: I'll go with Do the Right Thing. I'll go with Love Jones. And then I'll go with Friday.
00:31:05
Speaker 2: I was waiting for some West Coast.
00:31:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go with Friday for sure.
00:31:08
Speaker 2: I've been here too long. Okay.
00:31:10
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate you for coming through, bro. I appreciate y'all, bro. You one of them niggas already, which is crazy. Congrats on everything, bro, for real.
00:31:20
Speaker 3: Thank you, bro. God willing, a long way to go, man. Y'all... I appreciate y'all, bro. Y'all are like in front of the culture, bro. You feel what I'm saying?
00:31:28
Speaker 2: Thank you.
00:31:29
Speaker 3: Real talk. Real talk. Voices are big, bro. For sure.
00:31:31
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. For sure. Well, we're going to definitely, I'm going to play this song in the mix and see what people think about it, too.
00:31:38
Speaker 3: Y'all give me honest reactions, too. You feel me?
00:31:40
Speaker 1: Oh, no.
00:31:40
Speaker 3: Listen to it. Give me all the way honest reactions.
00:31:43
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