Are There Ruins on Mars? George Haas Investigates a Nuclear War on Mars And The Real Star Wars

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I'm Rai, your Kodega, here to lead you through the
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shadows of the unknown. My journeys have carried me across
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hidden corners of the world, to places steeped in wonder, whispers,
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and unanswered questions. Walk with me as we uncover ancient civilizations,
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unravel unexplained phenomena, and chase the legends that refuse to die.
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Welcome to Kodega's Codex Inquisitor. All right, everyone, welcome back
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to another episode of Codex of Curiosities, where we dive
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into the strange, the weird, the far out, and everything
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else that falls in between those cracks. And of course,
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that's where we are. We sit in those cracks and
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we pick up every one of those stories that the
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mainstream media just glazes over. The stuff that is interesting,
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the stuff that actually matters, not any of that other
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stuff that we just don't care about. That's where we're at.
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And until then, stick around, because we are in for
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a doozy today. So my guest tonight started out as
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a sculptor, showing work in New York and New Jersey
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galleries back in the 80s. Now, Before that, that's what
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he was doing. But he then used that same eye
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and turned it towards something a lot stranger. Photographs of Mars. Now,
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he spent over 30 years studying NASA and ESA imagery.
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And back in 91, he founded the Sedona Institute to
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dig into structures of the Martian surface that most people
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have never even heard of. He's co-authored the Sedona Codex
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and the Martian Codex. and William H. Saunders, with William H. Saunders, sorry,
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plus eight peer-reviewed science papers on anomalous Mars formations. His
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current book, The Great Architects of Mars, Evidence for the
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Lost Civilization of the Red Planet, came out from Bering
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Company in January of 2025. And you probably might have
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even caught him on Gaia's Beyond Belief, History Channel's Ancient Aliens,
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The Proof is Out There, and The Unexplained with the
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one and only William Shatner. Okay, enough of that. Let's
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welcome our guest on. George, welcome to the show. I'm
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really glad to have you here for this one. Right.
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Thank you for having me on. I'm looking forward to
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talking to your audience here. And we're going to have
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a pretty interesting evening here talking about structures and pictographic
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images that are on the surface of Mars.
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Our lovely red neighbor, right? Just floating up there in
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that sky with so many mysteries, so many things that
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we just don't know. And we're just sent back these
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photographs that we're supposed to interpret and believe that it's something,
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but there's something so much more there. Now, as I
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said that you spent the 80s as a sculptor in
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New York gallery shows. Now, I'm super interested in what
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was the moment that pulled you away from that to
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start studying Mars?
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Well, I started out as a painter and a sculptor.
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I graduated high school in 1976. That was the bicentennial year.
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So I'm one of these rare individuals that got to
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celebrate the 200th anniversary of America. And now we're celebrating
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the 250th anniversary. Back in the 70s, the bicentennial was
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just all over the media. We had all kinds of
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programs celebrating the 200 years. NASA even got on board
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with the celebration. They were going to put two, that's two,
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landers on Mars. And of course, you know, the Vikings
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were always considered, you know, the explorers of the world.
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So we had the Viking 1 and the Viking 2
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landers and the orbiters. There was two missions that went up. So,
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you know, NASA was spending a lot of money and
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the government with a lot of money here going to
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Mars for the 200th anniversary. And originally, the landers were
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supposed to land on Mars on July 4th to celebrate
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the Bicentennial. But they landed into difficulties because they were
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taking pictures of the surface, trying to find a landing site.
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And all kinds of controversy happened. They found that we're
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going to land in Cydonia originally. And of course, that's
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where the famous face on Mars was found. So I was,
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you know, graduating high school. I was in the middle
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of the whole Viking mission discovering the face on Mars
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and all the controversy with that. NASA had come out
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with a press conference saying they had found a formation
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on Mars that looked like a face, and the media
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just went crazy. But it was short-lived. A couple days later,
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they came out and said, oh, no, we took another picture,
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and it was just nothing but a trickle light and
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shadow and nothing to see here. Let's move on. And
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that was basically forgotten for a long time. And what
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got me interested... in pursuing Mars with my art career
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and everything was in the early 1990s, NASA was talking
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about going back to Mars with the Mars Global Surveyor camera.
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And John McCain, who was passed on, he was a
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major Republican, he had actually picked up this flame of
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let's investigate Mars. And he, he told NASA that, you know,
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we got to get pictures of this. The public's interested.
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We want to see what this face is. So NASA, uh,
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with the Mars global surveyor, they had in 1996, took
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a new picture. Uh, they hadn't had a new picture
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of this formation since 1976. So this was a big, big,
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big ordeal. So in 1996, they took a new picture
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of the face on Mars, uh, with the Mars global surveyor.
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And all of that, uh, and the publicity for that
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kind of got me interested in Mars. And the image
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was a big disappointment because NASA took this elongated picture
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and they released it without having it processed. It's the
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whole controversy, which is mentioned in our first book that
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I did with William Saunders. But that's what got me interested.
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And I figured that, well, if there's structures on Mars,
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that's probably more important than me making art.
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I like that kind of attitude. You know, it's like,
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let's dig into this. And I recall seeing that picture
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as well. And my father, he had a, I believe
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it was a National Geographic. And I remember looking at
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that when I was young. I was born in 76.
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Wait a minute, wait a minute.
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Do you have the National Geographic that had the 3D images?
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I don't recall. I don't recall that.
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Yes.
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It was so long ago.
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I'm like, Oh my gosh, did we have the 3d image?
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I don't think so.
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I have the, I have a couple of those issues
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from now should geographic actually comes with the 3d glasses
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that you can look at the Mars Viking lander images. It's,
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it's pretty amazing. Might've been.
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Yeah, it was, it was very intriguing seeing that, you know,
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and it, It just got you the curiosity just run
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in there. And you're like, what is this? What really
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is this? And of course, then they try to be like, well, no,
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it's nothing. Nothing really. Not really what you want to
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see here. And it seems like this is always the narrative,
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you know, such as Roswell, where we recovered something and then, oh, no, no, no.
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It's just a crashed weather balloon. You know, they they
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release something too quick and then they're trying to, you know,
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put out that fire and trying to cover it up. OK,
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so you said that's it. Let's do this. Where do
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we go from there then?
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Well, then, of course, 1996, we had this awful image
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and then we had to wait, you know. Again, for
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NASA to come up with better pictures, we had the Mars.
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Themis camera, which was taking pictures with a lot of
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orbiters up there taking pictures. So over the years, we
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got a lot of bits and pieces of the face
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on Mars. It wasn't until recently, back in the 2000s,
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that we got some really crisp pictures of the face
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on Mars. But the face on Mars was my impetus
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to get interested in this research. And what I quickly
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found was, looking at NASA photographs, is that Cydonia wasn't
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the only area on Mars that had these structures. They
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were basically all over the planet.
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And when you're talking structures... Are you talking like faces
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or other structures that were around that location?
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Well, there are other structures. We call them geoglyphs that
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are like faces or animals, things like that. Like you
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would see the Nazca Lines or American Indians built these
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bird and deer shaped structures all across the United States.
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And we were finding those on Mars and also geometrically
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shaped structures. The face on Mars is probably one of
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the least accurate structures that we're finding. We're finding structures
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that are a lot more detailed than the face on Mars.
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But that was the original impetus that got me involved
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in this. And just briefly for your listeners, when people
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hear face on Mars, they think of like, you know,
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Frank Sinatra or Elvis Presley. I mean, I guess the
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age group may be different people. But, you know, you
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think of a human face. The problem with, you know,
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NASA has always said that the face on Mars is
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not a human face.
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It's not.
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It's actually a bifurcated, a human and feline mask that
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has a humanoid face on one side and on the
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eastern side is a feline face. It's a split face.
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It's a bifurcated mask. And this whole idea of a two-faced,
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you know, people think, well, pareidolia, this is crazy. This
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is nothing. But again, if we go to which we're finding,
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everything we're finding on Mars has a direct correlation to
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the cultures of Mesoamerica, mostly the Maya, Olmec, Aztec. And
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they did a lot of bifurcated masks. They had the
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human feline mask, this idea of the transformation from human
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to feline. The Olmec were very prominent in doing a
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lot of these artworks. And this idea of having a
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bifurcated two-faced mask was, you could find this all throughout Mesoamerica.
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And that's exactly what we were finding on Mars, that
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the Face on Mars was not a human face. It
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was a bifurcated transformational mask of a human face on
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the western side and a feline on the right, on
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the eastern side. So that was our first clue that
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we were looking at stuff that was with the iconography
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of Mesoamerican motifs and things like that. And everything we've
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found since then just really supports that theory.
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How did you come to that conclusion? When you looked
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at it, did you study the Olmecs and the Mayan
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and the Aztecs prior to this, or was it just
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like this aha moment, or how did you piece that
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together and be like, okay, these are lining right up?
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Well, Rye, that was the thing. Bill and I, William Saunders,
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the geomorphologist from Calgary, Canada, we met on the internet
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and we started doing this research together We knew nothing
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about the Maya, the Aztec, Olmec, or any of that.
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We basically knew what we read from National Geographic. You know,
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the Maya, where they were peace-loving and they studied the stars. And,
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you know, they had this all wrong about the Maya.
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And that's all I knew. And the thing, what we
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found interesting was the stuff that we were finding on
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Mars educated us about Mesoamerica. Now, this idea of the
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face being two-faced, that originally was set forth by.
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Early researcher, Richard Hoagland.
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Okay, yes, I've heard of him.
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You're familiar with Richard Hoagland. He had his book, Monuments
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of Mars. He was the first one to notice, and
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he only did this accidentally because the original Viking images
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were so poor, low contrast, that he did mirroring of
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each side to see what it would look like if
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it was a symmetrical. So he thought, like everyone else,
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that the face was a human face symmetrical. And he
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did mirroring of the left and right side And when
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he did the humanoid side, he saw, oh, it looks
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like a simian. It looks very monkey-like. And then the
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other side, he was shocked to see it looked like
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a feline. But he never went any further with that research.
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He just thought that was odd. And the story that
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I tell is that I was in Barnes & Noble
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doing research on this when The Face on Mars came out.
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And I was going through a history section of the
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Barnes & Noble, and I picked out a book by
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Linda Shelley. who's a famous archaeologist that does research with
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Mesoamerican cultures. She's deciphered many of the hieroglyphics and she's
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very famous. And I'm looking for her book and I
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noticed there's this whole idea about bifurcated mass with human
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and feline. I was like, it was like, that was
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my aha moment. I was like almost passed out there
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in the middle of Barnes and Noble back in the
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late 90s. And that's when I found that. And from
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that point on, we looked at the face on Mars
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and which isn't really the topic of my book, but
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gives the audience an idea of where this all came from.
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We looked at the face on Mars and when it's mirrored,
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which we found out that nobody likes the word mirror.
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and all this kind of stuff. But archaeologists do this
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all the time with Mesoamerican artwork, because a lot of
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the Mesoamerican artwork is half images like these, two-faced mask
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with human felines. And if you, they call it, they
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don't call it mirroring. They call it duplication. So they
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duplicate the left and the right. So if you use
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the word duplication, then you kind of like, you know,
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you're safe. So we found out that was one of the,
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that was one of the key words. It was duplicated.
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So anyway, when we duplicated the humanoid side of the
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face on Mars with the early Mars global severe image
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from 1976, we noticed there was like this V-shaped emblem
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in the forehead. It's like a tri-leaf formation. And sure enough,
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it's right in Linda Shelley's book about the sign of
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royalty in Mesoamerican cultures. They have this tri-leaf foliage symbol
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over their head, which goes all the way back to
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the Olmec. It was like everything that the Maya did,
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they took from the Olmec. It's kind of like over
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in the European countries where you have the Romans and
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the Greeks. The Romans took everything, all their mythology, their
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gods from the Greeks. And the Maya did the same thing.
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Everything they did, their creation mythology, was all taken from
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the Olmec. The Olmec was the mother culture. There's, of course,
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a lot of controversy about what's the origins of the Olmec.
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They look very Negroid. They look like they're Africans. Some
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think they look very Asian, so there's a lot of
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controversy about their origins. The problem is we don't have
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any skeletons of Olmecs that we can do any analysis.
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I think there's only two found, and we have no
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idea from what I've done, my research, we don't know
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where their skeletons are. But there's never been found any
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burials with the Olmec bodies that we could do some
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DNA testing on. So that's a myth in the mythology
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and all kinds of problems with the Olmec. But that's
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where they got all of their mythology. And we were
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finding all of this iconography in the face on Mars.
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Not only with the tri-leaf symbol and all the other
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symbols in the face, the whole idea of the two-faced
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humanoid and the transformation from human to feline. So from
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that point on, looking at all the other structures that
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Bill and I, William Saunders, the geomorphologist from Calgary, Canada,
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that we were starting to find on Mars, all seemed
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to have this direct correlation to Mesoamerican culture. And that's
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also expressed in my new book.
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So that was like the key. That was like, now
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we have almost a Rosetta Stone. Now we know where
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to go, and this is the direction that we can
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go in, and then it starts just duplicating everything almost,
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is kind of what happens, I'm assuming.
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Yeah. The Maya and Omic, they're key to what's on Mars.
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And In my book, I have a whole chapter on the,
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I don't know if we're jumping ahead here because that's
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at the end of the book, with the Maya Star Wars.
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This is what archaeologists call this. This was something that
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they were doing way back in the 70s and 80s,
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researching Maya hieroglyphics. There's a little known place in Mexico
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called Naranjo. Naranjo, their patron god was the zip monster. Now,
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the zip monster is a symbol of Mars. He's mentioned
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in the Dresden Codex. He's like a serpent-headed figure. And
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he's a representation of Mars. So the patron god of
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Naranjo was Mars. And in their text that, this is
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not me, Rai, this is archaeologists, that they talk about
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these star wars that happened between the cultures in Naranjo, Takal, Cozumel,
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all these settlements around there, that had a war with
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a place called Six Earth Place. Now Six Earth Place
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is a reference to Mars, because the Maya numbered all
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the planets from the outside in, kind of like the Sumerians.
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You've heard about, of course, the Anunnaki, with Zachariah Sitchin
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and all his research. The Sumerians also numbered, their planets
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had names and they also had numbers. Their gods had
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names and their gods also had numbers, so very mathematical stuff.
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But the planets were given numbers about how they were
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coming in from the outside in. The Earth would be
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number seven, which would sometimes be represented by a seven-pointed star.
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Venus would be the number eight, represented by an eight-pointed star.
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And Mars would be a six-pointed star, The same thing
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with Mesoamerican culture. So Earth was considered the number seven star,
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Venus was an eight-pointed star, and Mars was a six-pointed star.
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So six Earth place was a reference to Mars, and
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that's where they had these battles. And these battles on Mars,
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according to the text written in Naranjo, happened about 896,000
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years ago, like almost a million years ago. Now this, interestingly,
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This time period about these battles going on between Earth
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and Mars a million years ago corroborates with Dr. John Brandenburg.
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I don't know if you're familiar with him. Dr. Brandenburg
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is an astrophysicist. He's had numerous science papers written, a
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couple books out. about the Xenon-129, which is an element
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that NASA discovered on Mars. If you're listeners or you
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don't know what Xenon-129 is, it's the signature for nuclear explosions.
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That's what I was, I'm thinking that was what it was, yes.
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Now, we weren't really aware of the significance of Xenon-129 until,
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you know, in the 40s when we were doing our
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nuclear test and that the level of Xenon-129 grows, you know,
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in our environment. So it's an acceptable signature for nuclear explosions.
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When they sent out the Mariner 9 and they sent
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out the Viking and the Mars Global Surveyor, they all
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had atmospheric instruments on there, which was testing the atmosphere.
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And from the Mariner on through all of the satellites
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that go around Mars detecting the atmosphere, they've all detected
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overwhelming amounts of Xenon-129. So what that told NASA back
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in the Viking days, are you listening?
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You bet. You bet.
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Yes.
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Since Viking. They've known since the Viking missions that something
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happened on Mars. It was a nuclear war. The government
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has known this. And it's documented in all of Dr.
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Brandenburg's research. And that estimates to about a million years
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ago when this happened. And these were above ground explosions
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that happened over the area where the face on Mars is,
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over the Cydonia area. And another target happened in the
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Utopia area, which is... further east on Mars, on the
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other side of the planet. And this whole idea of
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finding this signature about a million years ago, this was
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also acknowledged by a government employee. His name is John McMonigle.
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He was a CIA agent. He did remote viewing.
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I was about to say, I know that name. I
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know that name because I did an episode on that.
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He's an older gentleman, but he did this in 1984
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back in the day for the government because the government
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wanted to know, you know, what happened to Mars? What
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happened to the atmosphere? So they did these remote viewing sessions.
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Him and another gentleman, which I can't remember his name
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right now, but there was two of them that did
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this blind remote viewing thing. And according to his experience
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with this remote viewing of Mars, he found that Mars
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had a nuclear war, which goes along with the Maya
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and Dr. Brandenburg, about a million years ago. So you
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got three independent research projects here talking about Mars having
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some kind of catastrophe about a million years ago. And
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what we're finding on Mars now are the remnants of
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those wars and those settlements. Are you able to breathe? Right? Yeah,
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that is.
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It's mind-boggling. But the government knows about it. This is why, right,
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we're not going to the moon and we're not going
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to Mars. There's too much stuff. You know, all this
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talk about going to the moon. We're not going to
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the moon. They'll find some excuse.
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And I'm thinking that gentleman that you might have been
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thinking about, was that either Ingo Swann or Pat Price?
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I do not.
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Remember his name. But if any of your listeners out
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there look up Monocle, they'll find there's... Yeah, he talked
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about that.
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He said, yeah, it was about a million years ago
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when he stated that as well. And he saw.
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Pyramids on Mars and these tall, you know, people with
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elongated heads, you know, way before Zachariah Sitch and stuff. So,
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you know, it wasn't but they were influenced by this.
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So pretty interesting stuff. So that's what we have on Mars.
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That's where we start. Yeah, that's where it all starts. And,
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you know, this information that you're saying that they had
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this battle with the sixth planet, that's incredible. You know,
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this is what I always laugh at. I don't say
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laugh at, but it's just we have this information that's
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documented in our history. You know, these cultures have written
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this stuff down. And those things, they're just like, well,
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that's just an allegory. That's just a story. That's a
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fable or something. But everything else that they write down
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is true. But when we talk about these far-fetched kind
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of possible ideas, no, no, that doesn't exist. That's just
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them writing about something crazy, you know. Well, that's just
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them drawing these drawings of these half-man, half-animal type of drawings. No,
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those things didn't exist. Of course they did.
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Well, you're right. If you look at the Sumerians, I mean,
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that was the cradle of civilization, you know, Iraq, Iran.
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You know, that's why we're having problems with them now.
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I mean, this is where everything is.
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Why are we going in there? Yes.
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You have a culture that, you know, they're the ones
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that develop mathematics, all of the high sciences that we have.
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It all came from Mesopotamia, the Sumerians. And, you know,
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they did all this high art and high culture. But then,
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of course, they have these stories about the Anunnaki. Oh,
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that's just fantasy.
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That's exactly it.
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It goes along with what you're saying, yes. You can't
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have it both ways.
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No.
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You know, when Plato was talking about, oh, geez, Atlantis, Atlantis,
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you know, and it's like, no, no, that wasn't true.
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That was just a story. But everything else he said,
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it was all legit, you know. Right.
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Well, the Atlantis may be the culture that started this,
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that was on Earth, that was, you know, having bases
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on the moon and on Mars. You know, If you
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want to entertain that idea about Atlantis.
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I definitely do.
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This goes back to the idea of which Dr. Brandenburg
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with the Xenon 129 talked about this whole idea about
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a breakaway culture. He talks about this in the Cydonia
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hypothesis about how the structures and stuff got on Mars.
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And I've elaborated on it that at Sometime in the
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distant past, there was this breakaway culture that came from
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another solar system, came to our area and came in
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through the outside, you know, came to Mars and came
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to Earth. And they found this beautiful paradise, Earth. And
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by this time, Earth, you know, was a lush planet, beautiful.
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We had the dinosaurs were long gone and we had
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probably Cro-Magnon or Neanderthal man that was on the planet.
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They landed here. They figured this would be a place
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they could, you know, take over pretty easily. And to
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protect themselves from whoever they were running away from, they
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set up bases on the moon as a protection, as
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an outpost. And they saw that Mars was this desolate
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planet that was dead. And they could set bases up
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there because they had low gravity. And it would be
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an outpost way out in the solar system. So if
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somebody came into our area, they'd be able to, you know,
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as George Bush said during the, you know, the Afghanistan
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wars and the wars with Iraq, it's better to fight
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them over there than fight them here. Remember that famous quote.
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So it's the same idea. I mean, if somebody is
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going to come in to attack you, you might want
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to fight them out on Mars before they get here.
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And if you can't beat them there, at least you
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got the moon to protect you. You know, it's a
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second outpost. And that's why we find structures on the moon.
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These are remnants of that time period where they were
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outposts on the moon. And all these structures that are
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in my current book, The Great Architects of Mars, these
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are basically outposts. They're military complexes, okay? And they were
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put there in case this rogue planet that was attacking
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them or looking for them, they would be able to
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fight them out there. And I think as time went on,
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They found them, and that's why we had these battles
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going on on Mars and on the moon. And I'm
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unsure about who won, but whoever won, they left, and
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they just left us here on Earth to fend for
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ourselves because they were found out and they just moved on.
468
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So that's my theory. And that's why we have these
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structures on Mars.
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I'd love to go deeper into these structures on Mars.
471
00:28:35.930 --> 00:28:37.150
But yes, please go ahead, George.
472
00:28:37.269 --> 00:28:40.990
But just one last thing about the Maya. The whole
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thing about the Maya Star Wars, I'm not saying to
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your audience that the Maya and the Olmec were fighting
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these cultures on this sixth Earth place. This is history
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00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:56.240
that was bestowed to them, that they were ritually... You know,
477
00:28:56.259 --> 00:28:59.980
they do reenactments. The Maya, when a new lord takes over,
478
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.509
they go through all of these... enrichment things that they
479
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do and all this cultural reenactment. And they reenact these
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00:29:07.710 --> 00:29:12.630
ball games that they do with the ball players. This
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00:29:12.819 --> 00:29:15.400
is all part of their creation mythology. And they do
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00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.819
this over and over again. And archaeologists find that anytime
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a new leader takes over, they go through all these
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ceremonies and they reenact these battles. The Aztec used to
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do these flower wars, which they would notify all of
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the surrounding cities that were around these Aztec towns. And
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ritually through these designated and planned battles, they would do
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with each other because they were reintegrated. these battles that
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took place a millennium ago. So that's what this was
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all about. You know, kind of like these Civil War
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00:29:48.140 --> 00:29:51.690
people that do Civil War reenactments. And you got the
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00:29:51.730 --> 00:29:54.170
medieval time people that do the jousting and they do
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00:29:54.210 --> 00:29:56.819
all the This goes on over in Ireland. They do
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00:29:56.900 --> 00:30:00.089
all of these battles. Everybody does these reenactments. We have
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these in Washington, D.C. with all of the monuments and stuff.
496
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So it's very interesting. And that's what the Maya were doing.
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00:30:07.329 --> 00:30:12.970
They really weren't on ground zero when these things happened.
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But whoever had contact with them, whoever bestowed all this
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knowledge to them, that's what they were doing as a celebration,
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reenacting these things.
501
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:27.740
It's incredible that you say that because, oh yeah, completely.
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I was just at a show here this past couple
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of days and I was watching, it was a Polynesian
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00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:40.900
one and what they were doing and portraying, I was
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00:30:40.940 --> 00:30:43.180
thinking the same thing. I'm like, they're just acting out
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stuff that has happened so long ago. They kind of
507
00:30:46.470 --> 00:30:50.410
don't know, they've lost almost the reasoning behind it. They
508
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know that this happened and they're supposed to reenact it.
509
00:30:53.630 --> 00:30:57.079
But for some point, they've kind of lost the or
510
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forgotten the real reason behind it. They just this is
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what we're supposed to do.
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Yes.
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Right.
514
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:05.579
And of course, over time, it loses it. You know,
515
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:07.420
it's like the old telephone, you know, where you tell
516
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:08.980
a kid one thing and it goes around the room
517
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:12.819
and it loses a little bit of its detail. But
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00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:15.140
I think that's what the Maya were doing with all
519
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.410
of this, you know, ceremonial stuff. And of course, with
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00:31:18.430 --> 00:31:22.410
their written history about what happened between Naranjo and Six
521
00:31:22.450 --> 00:31:25.559
Earth Place, this you know, the Star War. That's what
522
00:31:25.579 --> 00:31:29.259
this was all about. And we find the evidence on Mars,
523
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:29.960
all these ruins.
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00:31:31.059 --> 00:31:32.940
I always do say that with the telephone. You know,
525
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.039
that telephone game, it's exactly what I say. You know,
526
00:31:35.299 --> 00:31:38.079
this message gets, keeps passing around, passed around, and after time,
527
00:31:38.180 --> 00:31:40.400
it loses, it degrades, it loses its value, and it
528
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.529
kind of changes. But, yes.
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00:31:44.029 --> 00:31:47.809
That we have, through the Maya Star War, they have
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00:31:48.390 --> 00:31:54.589
two significant time periods. They have the 896th And then also,
531
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the second time they had this conflict was 22,000 years ago.
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00:31:59.980 --> 00:32:05.039
So we have these two time periods about wars. And
533
00:32:05.339 --> 00:32:07.380
I think this is kind of like where you, you know,
534
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:11.910
canalize Mars. And then over the time period, you know,
535
00:32:11.950 --> 00:32:15.490
where you're digging up all the minerals and you're sending
536
00:32:15.509 --> 00:32:19.170
them back to Earth. And, you know, the outpost starts
537
00:32:19.190 --> 00:32:20.589
to think, you know, hey, we've got our own conflict.
538
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.519
planet here. We want to occupy this. And you get
539
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.000
kind of like a civil war like we had with England.
540
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.700
And that might have been the 22,000 year episode when
541
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:31.680
they tried to break away from Earth and have their
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00:32:31.700 --> 00:32:34.859
own society. So we not only could have had battles
543
00:32:34.940 --> 00:32:37.980
with aliens, we could have had battles amongst ourselves. And,
544
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:41.579
you know, as humans, you know, we fight all the time.
545
00:32:42.660 --> 00:32:43.329
Oh, completely.
546
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:43.609
Yeah.
547
00:32:43.619 --> 00:32:46.230
There's always this, you know, we're supposed to be giving
548
00:32:46.329 --> 00:32:47.970
up a percentage to something else, like you said, to
549
00:32:48.069 --> 00:32:50.930
England or or to France, or to Spain, or something
550
00:32:50.970 --> 00:32:53.130
like that. And it finally gets to a point where
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00:32:53.309 --> 00:32:56.720
you just want your own independence. Enough, we're separate. I
552
00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:59.720
got my own life to live, Spanky. I'd love to
553
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:04.859
get into this part here now about the structures and
554
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:08.609
the architects, the great architects of Mars. I'd definitely love
555
00:33:08.619 --> 00:33:10.609
to get into your book and more into that.
556
00:33:11.829 --> 00:33:12.650
Sure, whenever you're ready.
557
00:33:13.130 --> 00:33:14.630
Your book was released in 2025, correct, January?
558
00:33:14.650 --> 00:33:14.720
Yes.
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00:33:18.549 --> 00:33:22.549
So it's been out for a while. I know just
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00:33:22.609 --> 00:33:24.990
recently you reached out to my publisher and that's how
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00:33:25.009 --> 00:33:27.730
we set all this up. But I haven't been doing
562
00:33:27.769 --> 00:33:29.950
interviews in a while, but it's great to get back
563
00:33:30.009 --> 00:33:30.309
into it.
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00:33:31.089 --> 00:33:33.390
I was very excited when I heard back from you
565
00:33:33.430 --> 00:33:35.750
and I was like, yeah, this is definitely one that
566
00:33:35.769 --> 00:33:37.089
I would love to get into.
567
00:33:37.109 --> 00:33:40.910
Yeah. Well, we could do multiple shows. I don't know
568
00:33:40.930 --> 00:33:42.569
how much time we have left, but do you have
569
00:33:42.609 --> 00:33:43.710
that up on the screen now?
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We are up on screen. Yes, it is up on screen.
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00:33:47.210 --> 00:33:47.420
Should I?
572
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I'm going to hit the button. This is the great
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architects of Mars. The first slide here, do you see that?
574
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That's Earth. That's China.
575
00:33:57.829 --> 00:34:01.670
Yeah, I can see it. Yeah, I see the Earth.
576
00:34:02.410 --> 00:34:04.950
This is kind of like the maps that NASA does
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00:34:04.990 --> 00:34:08.699
of Mars. They're called MOLA maps. They show the low
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areas or the blue where the ocean is. And then,
579
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.599
of course, the dark brown and red, that's the high
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00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:19.969
elevation maps. So that little white dot there, that is Xenon, China.
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So to get everybody interested or up to speed on
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what we're looking at about finding structures on Mars, this
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is called the White Pyramid. This is in Xenon, China.
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This was photographed during World War II in 1947 by
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an American pilot out his window. A lot of pilots
586
00:34:41.869 --> 00:34:45.480
carried cameras. They were doing surveillance. Uh, supposedly he got
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00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:47.699
off course and went deep into China and he took
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00:34:47.739 --> 00:34:51.300
this picture. Uh, for years, this was considered a hoax.
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00:34:51.340 --> 00:34:53.760
This was, uh, put in a lot of books that
590
00:34:53.820 --> 00:34:57.260
dealt with, you know, unsolved mysteries of the past. Have
591
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:57.929
you ever seen this?
592
00:34:59.269 --> 00:35:02.449
I've never actually seen this one before. And this is interesting.
593
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It's got, it's got like a flat top on it
594
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as well.
595
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It's a huge pyramid with a flat top.
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Yes.
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And, uh, like I said, this is, he called this
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a beautiful white pyramid, uh, And it kind of, after that,
599
00:35:14.340 --> 00:35:18.059
through the 50s and 60s and 70s, it was, you know,
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00:35:18.099 --> 00:35:20.880
said it was a hoax. This is nothing. That was
601
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:26.639
until the advent of Google. Google Earth was taking pictures
602
00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:29.750
all over the planet. Early on, they were taking pictures
603
00:35:29.809 --> 00:35:32.889
over China. They were mapping the whole world, you know, Google.
604
00:35:33.329 --> 00:35:35.570
They didn't know what they were doing. And China was
605
00:35:35.610 --> 00:35:38.429
very upset because they took these pictures. This pyramid in
606
00:35:38.469 --> 00:35:38.829
the lower.
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00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:44.269
Left-hand corner, that's probably the white pyramid that he photographed.
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00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:48.000
China has pyramids all over the place here in the
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Xi'an area. Have you ever heard about these?
610
00:35:51.300 --> 00:35:52.940
I have not. I have not. And from the top,
611
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:56.860
it looks very similar to Chichen Itza style, you know. Oh, yes.
612
00:35:56.969 --> 00:36:00.130
Yeah, this is in China. Or as our great leader
613
00:36:00.170 --> 00:36:04.530
would say, China. There's a lot going on in China
614
00:36:04.570 --> 00:36:06.960
that we don't know about. The Chinese, you know, they
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00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.920
have their own history. You know, it starts with the
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yellow god and all this stuff. And, you know, everybody
617
00:36:12.940 --> 00:36:17.340
was Chinese. But anytime they find any archaeological evidence to
618
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.760
show that, you know, the Chinese weren't the first ones there,
619
00:36:19.820 --> 00:36:21.409
they kind of bury it. So they're kind of like
620
00:36:21.469 --> 00:36:23.829
one of those. And they're communists. This is what communist
621
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people do, you know, because they don't believe in God.
622
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In the communist structure, the government is the almighty. That's
623
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why they, you know, destroy religion and everything, because everything
624
00:36:35.769 --> 00:36:38.769
starts with the government. So this was a big anomaly
625
00:36:38.789 --> 00:36:42.840
for the Chinese. And Google accidentally took all these pictures.
626
00:36:43.019 --> 00:36:46.039
There's dozens of these all over the place. And so
627
00:36:46.059 --> 00:36:50.860
we have unknown pyramids in China. And the Chinese for years,
628
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:55.659
this was, I think, in 2004 when Google put these up.
629
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And they only have these current images because they aren't
630
00:36:59.739 --> 00:37:02.659
allowed to take any more pictures over that area. Since
631
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.539
Google started taking pictures, there's a lot of areas they
632
00:37:05.579 --> 00:37:08.880
can't take pictures of, you know, Area 51 and over
633
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.320
Russia and whatever military places. But they, for years, said
634
00:37:13.780 --> 00:37:16.480
that they still said they didn't have pyramids in China.
635
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.039
And these pyramids are covered up with dirt. And some
636
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.119
of them have shrubberies and trees growing on them. So
637
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:26.320
they try to cover them up. They didn't destroy them.
638
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.739
They don't do any research. They just leave them. So
639
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:32.639
this is going on on Earth. And these are pyramids
640
00:37:32.659 --> 00:37:35.239
on Earth that most people don't even know about.
641
00:37:35.900 --> 00:37:38.739
I wonder what was, sorry to jump ahead, but I mean,
642
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.719
or jump, go back. I wonder what that open area
643
00:37:41.780 --> 00:37:43.690
was where you could see all like the white ground.
644
00:37:43.710 --> 00:37:44.889
It looks like it was all disturbed. I don't know
645
00:37:44.909 --> 00:37:48.030
if it was just a crop or anything. Yeah, all
646
00:37:48.050 --> 00:37:48.630
of these.
647
00:37:48.449 --> 00:37:50.730
Areas are, yeah, that's, I'm sorry I didn't mention that.
648
00:37:50.869 --> 00:37:53.570
All of these areas around, there's all farming going on here.
649
00:37:53.610 --> 00:37:56.150
They farm all around these. There's, you know, farmers out
650
00:37:56.190 --> 00:37:59.110
there working and they think these are like hills. They
651
00:37:59.130 --> 00:38:01.880
don't even, you know, Or they probably have their heads
652
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:05.239
cut off if they said anything. But yeah, this is
653
00:38:05.300 --> 00:38:08.539
all farming and all this. That's why everything's patterned around them.
654
00:38:09.340 --> 00:38:13.460
So yeah. Yeah, just look up pyramids of China and
655
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.460
you'll find these all over the place. They're pretty amazing.
656
00:38:17.739 --> 00:38:19.809
So I put this in here just to let the
657
00:38:19.889 --> 00:38:23.389
viewers know that although you think you know everything on Earth,
658
00:38:23.550 --> 00:38:26.510
I mean, people don't even know about these. And we
659
00:38:26.550 --> 00:38:30.510
might find the same dilemmas on Mars. Now, this is
660
00:38:30.670 --> 00:38:34.579
a similar MOLA image about the different heights of the
661
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:38.980
surface of the whole planet of Mars. On the right side,
662
00:38:39.019 --> 00:38:43.989
there's a little white dot. That's Elysium on Mars. Elysium
663
00:38:44.010 --> 00:38:49.210
is very famous because that's where the Mariner 9 was
664
00:38:49.289 --> 00:38:52.530
a high contrast camera that took pictures, the first pictures.
665
00:38:52.849 --> 00:38:55.179
They only took a dozen or so pictures of the surface.
666
00:38:55.829 --> 00:38:58.369
And they found these pyramids. I mean, the first time
667
00:38:59.110 --> 00:39:01.769
taking pictures of Mars. I mean, what are the odds?
668
00:39:01.849 --> 00:39:05.030
I mean, a very small percentage of the planet. And
669
00:39:05.190 --> 00:39:11.300
these come back. You see the three-sided pyramids there? Interestingly,
670
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:13.940
on Mars, a lot of the pyramids are three-sided. We
671
00:39:13.980 --> 00:39:17.880
have four-sided, five-sided. It seems a lot of the pyramids
672
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:21.239
on Mars are three-sided. These became known as the famous
673
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.840
Carl Sagan pyramids on Elysium. Have you heard of those?
674
00:39:26.380 --> 00:39:28.429
I've heard of Carl Sagan, yes, but never heard of
675
00:39:28.449 --> 00:39:29.469
the Carl Sagan pyramids.
676
00:39:29.570 --> 00:39:30.099
Yeah. Yep.
677
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These were in his books. These pyramids were actually discovered
678
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:41.900
earlier by a guy named Mack Gibson. And he actually
679
00:39:41.969 --> 00:39:46.050
did a science paper that was published in Icarus Journal
680
00:39:46.090 --> 00:39:52.079
in January 1974. Icarus is a highbrow journal. This is
681
00:39:52.179 --> 00:39:56.219
a great journal to be published in. Currently, you can
682
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:58.210
get published in a lot of journals that are online
683
00:39:58.269 --> 00:40:04.929
and have very dubious type of credentials, but this is
684
00:40:05.010 --> 00:40:07.610
one of the best journals to be published in. This
685
00:40:07.650 --> 00:40:11.449
shows that early on, a lot of scientists were interested
686
00:40:11.650 --> 00:40:14.889
in the possibility that we were finding structures on Mars.
687
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His paper was called Pyramidal Structures on Mars. Now, the
688
00:40:18.590 --> 00:40:21.070
only thing I can understand about him not getting any
689
00:40:21.130 --> 00:40:25.809
attention might be his melanin. Yeah, yeah.
690
00:40:25.909 --> 00:40:28.269
Being a black man, it very much could have been.
691
00:40:28.989 --> 00:40:31.969
And he found this before Sagan. These aren't called the
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00:40:32.230 --> 00:40:35.050
Mac Gibson pyramids. You know what I'm saying?
693
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:36.820
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
694
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.179
So he's mentioned in my book. I didn't even know
695
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:42.199
about him until I started doing this research. And I
696
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.500
was like, wow, somebody found these before Carl Sagan. So
697
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.230
there he is. Of course, Carl Sagan, you know, six
698
00:40:50.250 --> 00:40:54.409
years later, he has his book, The Cosmos, which he
699
00:40:54.489 --> 00:40:58.170
puts these pictures in about the pyramids. And he had
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a miniseries on television. He's really famous, you know, talking
701
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about the billions and billions of stars. Everybody knows Carl Sagan.
702
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So I have found no record of him ever mentioning Mr. Gibson.
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Mr. Mac there.
704
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Yeah.
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Mac, take us to the Mac, man. So that's my
706
00:41:16.429 --> 00:41:20.409
good friend Carl. These are some of the three-sided pyramids
707
00:41:20.449 --> 00:41:27.880
that he talks about. Very geometric, very symmetrical. Nature doesn't
708
00:41:27.900 --> 00:41:32.019
make things like this because wind erosion would usually make
709
00:41:32.059 --> 00:41:36.360
everything conical, be round. You wouldn't have the straight edges.
710
00:41:37.489 --> 00:41:41.190
I do have a question. Do you have any hypothesis
711
00:41:41.269 --> 00:41:43.210
as to why there's three-sided pyramids?
712
00:41:44.590 --> 00:41:44.730
Um.
713
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.309
Well, three-sided pyramids are tetrahedral, which is a whole new...
714
00:41:51.329 --> 00:41:53.289
I didn't want to go into tetrahedral, but that's a
715
00:41:53.309 --> 00:41:58.130
good question. You're looking. Well, tetrahedral geometry is something that
716
00:41:58.190 --> 00:42:01.590
Richard Hoagland talked about and some other scientists. It has
717
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:06.500
to do with power generation. A tetrahedral pyramid is a
718
00:42:06.739 --> 00:42:11.920
four-sided pyramid counting the bottom. Hoagland found that if you
719
00:42:11.940 --> 00:42:14.760
took a tetrahedral pyramid and you put it into the Earth,
720
00:42:16.690 --> 00:42:20.550
its corners would poke into at 19.5. Have you heard
721
00:42:20.590 --> 00:42:21.949
the whole thing about 19.5?
722
00:42:21.949 --> 00:42:22.570
I have not.
723
00:42:23.190 --> 00:42:30.820
The significance of 19.5? Well, with three-sided pyramids, when you
724
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.719
put a sphere and you put the image of a
725
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:39.139
three-sided pyramid in there, its corners poke at 19.5 latitude. Now,
726
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:47.280
on Earth, at 19.5, you have Mexico. And you also
727
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:52.760
have Hawaii, which has all of the islands of Hawaii
728
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:59.940
were created through volcanic volcanism. And there's constant volcano eruptions
729
00:43:00.059 --> 00:43:02.360
under the sea going on all the time. It never ends,
730
00:43:02.900 --> 00:43:06.179
which most people don't know. You know, it's a very
731
00:43:06.219 --> 00:43:10.699
volatile area of Hawaii. And that's at 19.5. The best
732
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.630
coffee beans grow at 19.5. Just throwing that in there.
733
00:43:15.690 --> 00:43:16.570
That's an important fact.
734
00:43:17.010 --> 00:43:17.329
I know.
735
00:43:18.210 --> 00:43:20.590
And Mexico City and everything, they're right there at 19.
736
00:43:20.590 --> 00:43:25.110
It's all sacred geometry. Carrying this out to the solar system,
737
00:43:25.170 --> 00:43:29.050
if you look at Jupiter, what does Jupiter have? That weird,
738
00:43:29.349 --> 00:43:31.550
you know, circular storm that goes around and around and around.
739
00:43:32.570 --> 00:43:37.420
That is at 19.5. And a lot of the structures
740
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:41.219
at Cydonia with the face on Mars, Hoagland and These
741
00:43:41.260 --> 00:43:44.619
other scientists did research about the measurements and the alignments.
742
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:51.079
There's a lot of 19.5 alignments. And 19.5 is actually,
743
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:55.219
I think, 47 point something. But they kind of like,
744
00:43:56.389 --> 00:44:00.969
it would be 19.47 something. So they kind of like
745
00:44:01.030 --> 00:44:04.909
rounded it off to 19.5. That's where that comes from.
746
00:44:05.449 --> 00:44:08.130
But anyway, that's what the three-sided, it's all talking about
747
00:44:08.190 --> 00:44:13.579
science and geometry, these three-sided pyramids. But we also find
748
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.699
other types of pyramids. Now, these are star shields. These
749
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:21.079
are in the same area, right next to the three-sided
750
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:25.159
pyramids that we're looking at at Elysium. Carl Sagan never
751
00:44:25.219 --> 00:44:28.119
talked about these. The sad thing about Carl Sagan, he
752
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:33.420
died in 1996. He was only looking at the Mariner
753
00:44:33.420 --> 00:44:37.760
9 images. He did get to see the Viking images
754
00:44:38.460 --> 00:44:41.719
of the area. But the Viking camera was of lower
755
00:44:41.780 --> 00:44:47.449
resolution than the earlier Mariner 9. And all Carl Sagan
756
00:44:47.469 --> 00:44:50.389
got to see was, I mentioned it, actually pictures of
757
00:44:50.429 --> 00:44:54.849
it in the book, very poor grainy images of the pyramids.
758
00:44:55.250 --> 00:44:59.760
So he would never get any resolution about this in
759
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:04.380
his lifetime, which was pretty sad because he had died
760
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:08.989
before these pyramids Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter pictures took these beautiful
761
00:45:09.030 --> 00:45:11.280
pictures of the area. That's the pictures that you were
762
00:45:11.300 --> 00:45:16.179
looking at here. These are all contemporary Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter
763
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:19.980
CTX images. High resolution, they're great. But what Carl Sagan
764
00:45:20.019 --> 00:45:23.489
got to see of the same three-sided pyramids that he
765
00:45:23.510 --> 00:45:25.949
was looking at were very grainy and very poor. So
766
00:45:25.989 --> 00:45:28.369
he would have never, oh yeah, these are great. No, see,
767
00:45:28.389 --> 00:45:31.449
he never saw that. These are right next to those.
768
00:45:32.010 --> 00:45:36.579
These are five-sided, I call them star shields. You notice
769
00:45:36.619 --> 00:45:41.750
they're very geometric. The one on the left I call Starshield,
770
00:45:41.769 --> 00:45:43.809
and then the one on the right is Starshield Junior,
771
00:45:44.090 --> 00:45:49.190
which is above the little pyramids. They're almost identical. You
772
00:45:49.230 --> 00:45:51.449
notice the one on the left, the peak kind of
773
00:45:52.090 --> 00:45:54.489
curves to the left. The one on the right curves
774
00:45:54.510 --> 00:46:00.329
to the right. I'm comparing this with a fort, Santa
775
00:46:00.369 --> 00:46:05.489
Teresa in Uruguay. This is a star fort. Yep.
776
00:46:05.780 --> 00:46:07.639
Yeah, the Starforts are something that are quite interesting. I
777
00:46:07.659 --> 00:46:12.699
was just talking with Guy Anderson, and we were talking
778
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:15.340
about Starforts here recently. But yeah, very interesting.
779
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.619
These are built all over the place. I'm losing my
780
00:46:18.659 --> 00:46:20.559
voice here. I have a little cold like you have.
781
00:46:21.500 --> 00:46:26.380
No problem, no problem. These Starforts are quite interesting, you know,
782
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:29.699
and the use of the real purpose of them too.
783
00:46:30.980 --> 00:46:33.019
Well, we had a lot of those during the Civil
784
00:46:33.059 --> 00:46:36.449
War in America. They're all over, you know, in the south.
785
00:46:37.429 --> 00:46:40.219
But again, this kind of correlates with the idea that
786
00:46:40.300 --> 00:46:49.820
these were defensive compounds. So that's the Star Fort. Now
787
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:51.400
we're moving on to a different area.
788
00:46:51.420 --> 00:46:56.679
The next white dot over there, yeah.
789
00:46:56.940 --> 00:46:58.960
Now, can you see my cursive?
790
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:00.500
Yeah, yeah, I definitely can.
791
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:00.719
Oh, you do?
792
00:47:00.739 --> 00:47:00.980
Really?
793
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:04.840
That's great. So that's where Elysium was. So we're going
794
00:47:04.860 --> 00:47:11.639
a little further south. Now, interesting, we're finding all of
795
00:47:11.699 --> 00:47:16.929
these compounds, these settlements, that are either 30 to 40
796
00:47:16.929 --> 00:47:20.289
degrees north of the equator or 30 to 40 degrees south.
797
00:47:21.210 --> 00:47:22.949
Just like you would find on Earth. That's like the
798
00:47:22.969 --> 00:47:26.849
hot spot. That's where all of these formations we're finding.
799
00:47:27.269 --> 00:47:29.389
If you can see my cursor, I'm going over here.
800
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:33.539
You see that? That's where Cydonia is. That's the face
801
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:36.559
on Mars. and all that stuff, that's where all that is.
802
00:47:37.139 --> 00:47:39.480
Where's my hand? Right over here. So these are all
803
00:47:39.539 --> 00:47:44.789
in that hot spot. So this is what we're finding here.
804
00:47:45.150 --> 00:47:49.409
There's another star fort. This is a starburst. The formation
805
00:47:49.489 --> 00:47:52.550
on the left is on Mars. The one on the
806
00:47:52.590 --> 00:47:55.630
right is Fort Henry, which was built in Tennessee back
807
00:47:55.690 --> 00:48:00.320
in 1861 during the Civil War. They're almost identical. It's
808
00:48:00.380 --> 00:48:03.929
pretty scary. Even this flat area across the top, that
809
00:48:03.949 --> 00:48:08.639
we have on both. The comparison's pretty amazing. The structures
810
00:48:08.699 --> 00:48:12.539
in the center are where they would have all the
811
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:17.110
military magazines and the quarters and things like that. And
812
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:19.530
of course, we have these little mounds here that probably
813
00:48:19.610 --> 00:48:22.369
served a similar purpose. Pretty amazing.
814
00:48:23.070 --> 00:48:25.650
It is, it is. And also that little curved area
815
00:48:25.670 --> 00:48:28.230
looks like for the entrance, you know, it looks like
816
00:48:28.269 --> 00:48:30.070
it kind of has the same thing as well.
817
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.920
Yeah, it's amazing. So when I found this comparison, I
818
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:39.280
was like, holy crap. So that's pretty cool. And these
819
00:48:39.340 --> 00:48:43.860
things are all over the place. This is another structure.
820
00:48:43.909 --> 00:48:47.010
This is a pentagonal pyramid, which has kind of like
821
00:48:47.050 --> 00:48:51.670
different levels of its tiered. And of course, on the right,
822
00:48:51.690 --> 00:48:55.070
I just did an outline showing the pentagonal shape. And
823
00:48:55.650 --> 00:48:57.690
these things are all over the place. This is very
824
00:48:57.769 --> 00:49:01.659
much like these type of, stepped pyramids that you would
825
00:49:01.699 --> 00:49:02.800
find in Mesoamerica.
826
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:05.920
Yes, very, very common down here.
827
00:49:06.659 --> 00:49:09.519
Now, what I don't show here, but below that, there's
828
00:49:09.579 --> 00:49:14.449
a pictograph of a dove down here, which, yeah, we
829
00:49:14.469 --> 00:49:16.250
talk about in the book. I just don't, I can't
830
00:49:16.269 --> 00:49:17.889
have it all on here. We'd be here all night.
831
00:49:18.929 --> 00:49:22.929
But where there's not only, it's like with the American
832
00:49:22.969 --> 00:49:28.139
Indians out in the Midwest and Ohio and Wisconsin and
833
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:34.079
things like that, the indigenous people built these mounds, the circular, square,
834
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.380
rectangular mounds. And also right next to them, there would
835
00:49:37.420 --> 00:49:41.309
be pictographs of birds or deer or things like that,
836
00:49:41.710 --> 00:49:43.829
which was all part of the complex. And we're finding
837
00:49:43.849 --> 00:49:47.050
the same idea on Mars, not only finding these geometrically
838
00:49:47.130 --> 00:49:50.949
shaped structures, but there's also these pictographs next to them.
839
00:49:52.630 --> 00:49:55.530
This here I call the conjoined temple complex. This is
840
00:49:55.570 --> 00:49:59.429
in the same area. If you look at this quickly,
841
00:49:59.630 --> 00:50:01.510
you see this just looks like a bunch of weird
842
00:50:01.570 --> 00:50:05.300
rocks and stuff all aligned. But they all are very geometric,
843
00:50:05.429 --> 00:50:08.719
as you see here. I mean, it's pretty remarkable. These
844
00:50:08.780 --> 00:50:14.179
are all symmetrical, geometrically shaped structures, all in a row.
845
00:50:14.820 --> 00:50:18.679
And each of these little areas are all on a platform.
846
00:50:18.739 --> 00:50:21.880
There's a platform that connects all these. So it's pretty cool.
847
00:50:22.500 --> 00:50:23.400
It is extremely cool.
848
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:26.360
In the book, I go through all of these individually.
849
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:30.820
It's pretty remarkable. This is one of the unique things
850
00:50:30.900 --> 00:50:34.050
I call the crowned kite. This is the structure in
851
00:50:34.070 --> 00:50:36.510
the last picture right here, if you can see my pointer.
852
00:50:37.469 --> 00:50:40.610
And a lot of people think this looks like a spacecraft.
853
00:50:43.269 --> 00:50:45.809
This one wing here is a little distorted. You can
854
00:50:45.849 --> 00:50:48.949
still see the line here, but most of it's been deteriorated.
855
00:50:49.030 --> 00:50:52.969
But it's very symmetrical. It's pretty striking. And it's right
856
00:50:53.010 --> 00:50:57.710
next to another structure that's very symmetrical also. But like
857
00:50:57.730 --> 00:50:59.690
I said, this stuff is like over and over. We're
858
00:50:59.730 --> 00:51:03.190
finding these things. And they're all in these groupings. It's like,
859
00:51:03.230 --> 00:51:05.010
you know, you find one, you might say, well, that's
860
00:51:05.050 --> 00:51:07.170
just kind of like nature did a weird, you know,
861
00:51:07.190 --> 00:51:11.130
a line. But, you know, I mean, this here, there's
862
00:51:11.170 --> 00:51:16.250
a whole area here. It's just amazing. And if you
863
00:51:16.289 --> 00:51:21.489
want to talk about wind erosion and weathering, you know,
864
00:51:22.550 --> 00:51:25.469
if this line here got caused by wind, it would
865
00:51:25.570 --> 00:51:28.699
just destroy this corner. And if wind's coming here, how
866
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:32.429
do you have this here? This would be obliterated. Great point.
867
00:51:32.530 --> 00:51:33.190
It makes no sense.
868
00:51:33.210 --> 00:51:34.969
Great point. No, it doesn't.
869
00:51:35.510 --> 00:51:37.489
You have wind coming this way. You got wind coming
870
00:51:37.530 --> 00:51:40.849
this way. You got these here. And then this here
871
00:51:40.989 --> 00:51:43.389
round would be caused by wind to make something round.
872
00:51:43.449 --> 00:51:45.519
But why is that so straight?
873
00:51:45.699 --> 00:51:47.519
Why is that so geometrical?
874
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:47.820
Yes.
875
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.760
It makes no sense. It don't make no sense.
876
00:51:54.070 --> 00:51:57.170
It doesn't, it doesn't, which makes it so much more
877
00:51:57.269 --> 00:51:59.110
interesting because it doesn't make sense.
878
00:51:59.130 --> 00:52:01.949
And that's why your explanation is that somebody made it.
879
00:52:02.429 --> 00:52:02.750
That's all.
880
00:52:03.670 --> 00:52:05.389
You don't need to like go on and on about
881
00:52:05.590 --> 00:52:09.380
how weird wind came through here and this and that. Uh,
882
00:52:09.429 --> 00:52:12.530
this one here is part of that same complex. Uh,
883
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.019
this one here has this bar, which has got a
884
00:52:15.059 --> 00:52:19.059
crater in it. Meteor hit. It's got this little round
885
00:52:19.219 --> 00:52:21.659
dome here and it's got a platform. This is an
886
00:52:21.699 --> 00:52:29.039
American Indian, uh, Mound. Almost identical. You know, as above,
887
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:34.079
so below. Yeah. So that's very interesting.
888
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.139
The first thing, when you showed me this, I know
889
00:52:37.179 --> 00:52:39.059
it's not Serpent Mound, but the first thing I thought
890
00:52:39.099 --> 00:52:41.469
of was something along that line. Like, that looks like
891
00:52:41.510 --> 00:52:43.070
something the Native Americans were building.
892
00:52:43.889 --> 00:52:46.309
Right, doesn't it? I mean, on the right, that is
893
00:52:46.349 --> 00:52:50.070
an American Indian mound. I've been to the Serpent Mound.
894
00:52:50.130 --> 00:52:53.489
It's just remarkable. Thank God it still survives because, you know,
895
00:52:53.530 --> 00:52:59.699
the settlers just destroyed so many things going across the Midwest.
896
00:52:59.739 --> 00:53:03.159
They were told to take those mounds and use that. Yeah,
897
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:03.840
use that dirt.
898
00:53:04.260 --> 00:53:06.739
They used them for the dirt and everything and make
899
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:08.699
other things. But yeah, a lot of them were lost.
900
00:53:09.460 --> 00:53:11.940
But the Serpent Mound is unique. It's beautiful. And thank
901
00:53:11.980 --> 00:53:16.070
God it's still there. And I have a foot injury
902
00:53:16.110 --> 00:53:18.289
and I like walked around barefoot, but it didn't do
903
00:53:18.329 --> 00:53:18.610
any good.
904
00:53:20.269 --> 00:53:21.409
Hoping, hoping. Yes.
905
00:53:21.670 --> 00:53:24.489
I was hoping I was trying to get. I have
906
00:53:24.849 --> 00:53:30.019
Indian background. My English, German and Lenape Indian from New Jersey.
907
00:53:31.340 --> 00:53:34.760
But my Lenape Indian is very, very minute.
908
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:37.659
But I try to channel the ancestors.
909
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:46.170
But, you know. This is another amazing example. This is
910
00:53:46.210 --> 00:53:48.909
in the same area on the other side. This is
911
00:53:48.969 --> 00:53:53.630
what I call the elongated hexagonal mound. That's the regular
912
00:53:53.690 --> 00:53:55.809
image on the left. In the center, I'm just showing
913
00:53:55.829 --> 00:54:04.739
the geometry. It's totally exquisite, beautiful edges. And I had
914
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:08.659
this for a long time. Gary Legere, a friend of mine,
915
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:10.340
he's the Mad Martian. I don't know if you've heard
916
00:54:10.380 --> 00:54:10.579
of him.
917
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:11.440
I have not.
918
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:16.389
Well, Gary, he found this years ago. And it's been
919
00:54:16.449 --> 00:54:19.989
one of my favorites. And while doing some other research,
920
00:54:21.269 --> 00:54:25.510
I came upon this structure in Turkey on the far right.
921
00:54:26.050 --> 00:54:30.840
That's on Earth. That's almost the same effing thing. If
922
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:33.920
I might curse on the radio here. You see this?
923
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:36.280
It's got the mound in the center.
924
00:54:36.739 --> 00:54:37.739
Yep, correct.
925
00:54:38.219 --> 00:54:42.010
This is a mound. It's not a recessed image. I mean,
926
00:54:42.050 --> 00:54:43.849
if your eyes are adjusted. Oops, I hit the wrong thing.
927
00:54:46.130 --> 00:54:48.849
So this is almost the same thing. Notice the city
928
00:54:49.170 --> 00:54:51.750
remnants are on this side. See all the little structures?
929
00:54:53.070 --> 00:54:54.699
On Earth, we have them on this side. These are
930
00:54:54.739 --> 00:55:00.440
all new. These are ancient cities here, kind of like
931
00:55:00.460 --> 00:55:03.280
those cubicle things that they build. And this is on
932
00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:07.949
this hexagonal mound with a circular or triangular mound in
933
00:55:07.969 --> 00:55:11.630
the center, that diamond-shaped mound. It's almost identical. It's pretty scary.
934
00:55:12.570 --> 00:55:12.789
It is.
935
00:55:12.829 --> 00:55:13.010
It is.
936
00:55:14.170 --> 00:55:19.030
So on, you know, above and so below. It's amazing.
937
00:55:21.260 --> 00:55:25.460
This copying or like this duplicating that we're seeing is
938
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:26.579
very intriguing.
939
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:29.960
Well, it's like the common architect.
940
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:32.409
Yeah, fair enough.
941
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:35.969
That's the whole idea. You know, whoever built these, we
942
00:55:36.130 --> 00:55:38.570
had somebody instructed us how to do this stuff. You know,
943
00:55:38.610 --> 00:55:42.980
the sacred geometry, the sacred buildings. So now we're moving
944
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:47.159
on to Libyan mounds, which again is, you know, within
945
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:50.539
that same area. And again, it's a shoreline culture next
946
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:53.239
to the water. We talked about that earlier off the air,
947
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:56.619
I think. You know, finding these things next to water.
948
00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:58.110
Yeah, we did. We did.
949
00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:00.989
This is the famous keyhole structure.
950
00:56:01.550 --> 00:56:03.190
Oh, wow. It's like an exclamation mark.
951
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:07.590
That's what NASA called this, an exclamation mark. They actually
952
00:56:07.619 --> 00:56:11.349
said this on their site. When NASA takes pictures, they
953
00:56:11.409 --> 00:56:13.150
usually put them out. They don't have any comment. They
954
00:56:13.170 --> 00:56:15.889
don't have any analysis. They don't do anything. It's like
955
00:56:15.929 --> 00:56:18.429
a photographer just takes pictures and, you know, here you go,
956
00:56:18.429 --> 00:56:21.909
here you go. But this one, they had to actually explain.
957
00:56:21.949 --> 00:56:24.750
They had one of their scientists tell us why this
958
00:56:24.789 --> 00:56:30.489
was natural, which was kind of funny. Do you see
959
00:56:30.530 --> 00:56:37.670
these little dots here? Yeah, these are little meteor hits. Or,
960
00:56:38.030 --> 00:56:39.250
you know, somebody was shooting at it.
961
00:56:39.309 --> 00:56:40.570
I don't know.
962
00:56:40.769 --> 00:56:43.269
I discussed that in the paper or in the book.
963
00:56:43.610 --> 00:56:46.150
This was actually part of a science paper that we
964
00:56:46.190 --> 00:56:49.150
all put together also. So this was a published science
965
00:56:49.210 --> 00:56:53.179
paper about this structure. A lot of researchers know about this.
966
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:56.940
This is pretty amazing. The geometry and the symmetry in
967
00:56:56.980 --> 00:57:00.199
this is remarkable. And this is out in the middle
968
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.460
of nowhere. This is all by itself. There's nothing else
969
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:07.550
around it. It's like, hey, looky here. This just shows
970
00:57:07.630 --> 00:57:09.929
the geometry and all the symmetry that's going on, the
971
00:57:09.969 --> 00:57:12.949
mathematics in this thing, which this is an image from
972
00:57:12.989 --> 00:57:19.190
the science paper that we did. This also shows, this
973
00:57:19.269 --> 00:57:24.500
is a keyhole tomb that's found in Saudi Arabia. Very similar.
974
00:57:25.860 --> 00:57:28.420
These are all over the desert. These were also things
975
00:57:28.460 --> 00:57:31.539
that people didn't know about until we had Google Earth.
976
00:57:33.030 --> 00:57:36.409
Which was really opened up a lot of doors.
977
00:57:37.110 --> 00:57:39.989
Oh God, Google earth. People have found so many things
978
00:57:40.050 --> 00:57:41.829
all over the, you know, people that sit around on
979
00:57:41.869 --> 00:57:44.210
their computers and just go through Google earth, find these
980
00:57:44.230 --> 00:57:49.920
things all the time. And now that we have the LIDAR,
981
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:54.260
LIDAR is finding all kinds of things, which I talk
982
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:55.880
about in the book, in the beginning of the book,
983
00:57:55.900 --> 00:57:58.480
when we talk about the history of archeology and finding
984
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:03.079
things that, you know, the Amazon, we had, The conservatives
985
00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:06.039
and the global warming people saying, oh, we can't touch
986
00:58:06.099 --> 00:58:08.920
the Amazon. It's been like that since the beginning of time.
987
00:58:08.980 --> 00:58:12.380
It's a beautiful, pristine area. And they're doing these LIDAR
988
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.119
pictures and they're finding through the jungles, there's all these
989
00:58:15.219 --> 00:58:17.739
geometric structures that are under there. It's like, where the
990
00:58:17.780 --> 00:58:21.989
hell did they come from? So it's like really opening
991
00:58:22.030 --> 00:58:24.150
up a whole can of worms. But this is one
992
00:58:24.190 --> 00:58:29.010
of the keyhole structures in Saudi Arabia. And what I
993
00:58:29.070 --> 00:58:31.550
have a comparison here in the book, this is a kufan.
994
00:58:32.780 --> 00:58:36.389
tomb in japan now as we have in china where
995
00:58:36.429 --> 00:58:38.010
we have all these pyramids that they don't want to
996
00:58:38.050 --> 00:58:41.449
talk about over in japan we have all of these
997
00:58:41.530 --> 00:58:44.639
keyhole structures so i do this side by side showing
998
00:58:44.699 --> 00:58:47.880
that uh this this keyhole structure on mars looks a
999
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:50.519
hell of a lot like this uh kufan tomb it.
1000
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:54.260
Looks extremely a lot like it yeah you can even
1001
00:58:54.300 --> 00:58:56.760
see like the steps in it you know as well.
1002
00:58:56.659 --> 00:59:00.380
Yeah now um There's a lot of controversy about these
1003
00:59:00.500 --> 00:59:03.480
because the Japanese people tried to make up stories about
1004
00:59:03.500 --> 00:59:06.349
who built these. But there's a lot of evidence that
1005
00:59:06.389 --> 00:59:09.849
these were actually in Japan before the Japanese moved in there.
1006
00:59:11.579 --> 00:59:14.099
So they were founded so they were found.
1007
00:59:13.900 --> 00:59:16.280
They were they were already there it appears yes there
1008
00:59:16.300 --> 00:59:19.539
was there was a culture uh that lived in on
1009
00:59:19.579 --> 00:59:22.639
the island of japan when the japanese moved in there
1010
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:25.260
and they killed them all off they were much taller
1011
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:27.780
and interesting looking people but they're all gone It's kind
1012
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:30.210
of like the aborigines in Australia. You know, they killed
1013
00:59:30.230 --> 00:59:33.030
them all. They put the last king and queen in
1014
00:59:33.050 --> 00:59:35.190
the museum. You know, they they were like relics in
1015
00:59:35.210 --> 00:59:37.690
the museum. That's kind of awful. But, yeah, this is
1016
00:59:37.710 --> 00:59:43.710
what we do. And, of course, you know, these these
1017
00:59:43.969 --> 00:59:47.010
the governments of the original Japanese government, they were all,
1018
00:59:47.090 --> 00:59:49.869
you know, they he thought he was a god. You know,
1019
00:59:49.889 --> 00:59:52.789
that's why they were trying to take over the world. And,
1020
00:59:52.949 --> 00:59:54.309
you know, they're not going to they're not going to
1021
00:59:54.349 --> 00:59:56.389
tell their people that these things were there before them,
1022
00:59:56.630 --> 00:59:59.159
that we built them. The gods built them. So we
1023
00:59:59.179 --> 01:00:01.460
don't know. But they look a hell of a lot
1024
01:00:01.500 --> 01:00:02.699
like what we're finding on Mars.
1025
01:00:03.780 --> 01:00:04.039
Again.
1026
01:00:06.500 --> 01:00:08.599
Take a look at that. That's exactly what this looks like.
1027
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:12.860
The keyhole was featured in the Journal of Space Exploration
1028
01:00:12.909 --> 01:00:17.250
back in 2000. These are free papers if your audience
1029
01:00:17.269 --> 01:00:20.130
wants to look these up. I have links on my website.
1030
01:00:20.170 --> 01:00:22.409
If they go to my website, they can download the
1031
01:00:22.530 --> 01:00:25.329
seven or eight science papers that I've had published. And
1032
01:00:25.369 --> 01:00:27.820
they're all free. So I you know, invite them all
1033
01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:29.079
to go over and take a look at these things.
1034
01:00:30.739 --> 01:00:31.880
This is, we have time.
1035
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:36.000
Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah.
1036
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.659
This is an area called Atlantis chaos. And we're going
1037
01:00:38.730 --> 01:00:40.690
way over here where the dot is. Again, you can
1038
01:00:40.730 --> 01:00:44.869
see it's 30 to 40 degrees. That's an interesting name. Well,
1039
01:00:45.449 --> 01:00:49.650
that's what NASA calls these areas. They, you know, Sedonia,
1040
01:00:50.429 --> 01:00:52.429
the area of Sedonia that goes all the way back
1041
01:00:52.510 --> 01:00:55.079
to the Sedonians mentioned in the Bible. They were the
1042
01:00:55.139 --> 01:00:58.489
ones that built Solomon's temple. Solomon's Temple was built by
1043
01:00:58.530 --> 01:01:01.469
the Sidonians in the Bible. They were the master builders.
1044
01:01:02.050 --> 01:01:06.360
So it's kind of interesting with these titles. So this
1045
01:01:06.420 --> 01:01:11.559
is called Atlantis Chaos. Have you heard about Atlantis Chaos?
1046
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:15.739
I have not. Have you seen this picture? I don't
1047
01:01:15.780 --> 01:01:19.460
think I've seen this picture. I know, I know. I
1048
01:01:19.539 --> 01:01:23.230
am sitting down. There's blocks here. This is a city.
1049
01:01:24.190 --> 01:01:28.070
Hey, there you go. I didn't say anything. NASA doesn't
1050
01:01:28.170 --> 01:01:32.949
see this? They go, that's just natural terrain. This is
1051
01:01:33.030 --> 01:01:36.190
ruins of a, this is a major city. And this
1052
01:01:36.230 --> 01:01:38.849
just happens to be in an area called Atlantis Chaos.
1053
01:01:39.110 --> 01:01:43.539
I don't get it. Just a coincidence. Now, do you
1054
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:46.760
notice the dome here?
1055
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:48.780
100% I do.
1056
01:01:48.940 --> 01:01:49.179
Yeah.
1057
01:01:49.300 --> 01:01:49.900
There's a dome.
1058
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:51.760
First thing I thought when I saw that, I was
1059
01:01:51.780 --> 01:01:54.139
thinking either like the Vatican or the White House or
1060
01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:54.760
something like that.
1061
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:54.980
Right.
1062
01:01:55.469 --> 01:02:01.190
Yeah, the White House, exactly. There's a structure here with
1063
01:02:02.289 --> 01:02:06.110
a blocking area on the bottom. There's a temple here.
1064
01:02:06.139 --> 01:02:10.599
See them all sticking up? Now, you know, this reminds me,
1065
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:13.519
when I saw this, it reminds me of, like, Nagasaki
1066
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:16.920
when they dropped the bomb and, you know, destroyed all
1067
01:02:16.940 --> 01:02:19.320
the structures around it, but the little building in the
1068
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:21.789
middle stood up because that was at ground zero. So
1069
01:02:21.829 --> 01:02:25.429
this is probably pretty close to, you know, Dr. Brandenburg's
1070
01:02:26.389 --> 01:02:29.949
nuclear war that happened. And you can still see all
1071
01:02:29.989 --> 01:02:34.269
the structures around it. Now, when we move on, looking
1072
01:02:34.329 --> 01:02:38.489
at some of these cubicle remnants, on the right, we're
1073
01:02:38.630 --> 01:02:42.570
going back to Saudi Arabia. These are these conjoined buildings
1074
01:02:42.610 --> 01:02:48.099
that are very cubicle, which, you know, it's hard to imagine,
1075
01:02:48.139 --> 01:02:50.460
you know, living in these quarters with one house right
1076
01:02:50.500 --> 01:02:53.539
next to the other and these little alleyways around them.
1077
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:55.869
But It looks just like what we're seeing on Mars.
1078
01:02:56.469 --> 01:02:58.789
I mean, am I crazy or what's going on here?
1079
01:02:59.329 --> 01:03:03.429
No, this looks identical. This looks very, very similar. We're
1080
01:03:03.469 --> 01:03:09.920
definitely seeing blocks, you know, streets and avenues and things
1081
01:03:10.059 --> 01:03:12.920
sectioned off and cordoned off and walled off.
1082
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:13.360
Yes.
1083
01:03:14.699 --> 01:03:19.340
It's almost the same. These are some of the roofs.
1084
01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:22.119
You see the roofs going up just like we have
1085
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:26.409
at Machu Picchu? See the roots? Pretty amazing.
1086
01:03:26.869 --> 01:03:27.150
Yeah.
1087
01:03:28.969 --> 01:03:31.869
So, I mean, it looks like overwhelming evidence to me,
1088
01:03:31.909 --> 01:03:37.880
but what do I know? I'm just an artist. This
1089
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:42.199
is showing those three buildings. You got this temple here.
1090
01:03:42.780 --> 01:03:45.400
You got the dome here. And we discussed this in
1091
01:03:45.420 --> 01:03:50.150
the book. Whoops. You know, these three structures and all
1092
01:03:50.170 --> 01:03:54.570
of the... you know, this compartmentalized city that we're looking
1093
01:03:54.630 --> 01:03:57.280
at here. So this is, I mean, anything in the book,
1094
01:03:57.340 --> 01:03:58.579
this is just remarkable.
1095
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:03.679
I think. The one, the B, B structure, it looks
1096
01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:05.760
like some sort of spire, you know, coming out of
1097
01:04:05.820 --> 01:04:07.480
a dome. It looks like a spire sticking up there.
1098
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:12.820
Exactly, yes. And I show ancient examples of other architecture
1099
01:04:12.860 --> 01:04:15.849
that do these kind of domes, including the, you know,
1100
01:04:15.869 --> 01:04:17.110
the Capitol building and things like that.
1101
01:04:17.150 --> 01:04:19.349
And what do you think C is over there? You know,
1102
01:04:19.610 --> 01:04:20.309
it almost looks like.
1103
01:04:21.170 --> 01:04:24.070
C is kind of like a, some people think this
1104
01:04:24.110 --> 01:04:29.050
looks like a Indian or Mayan temple, you know, with
1105
01:04:29.070 --> 01:04:29.949
the steps going up.
1106
01:04:29.949 --> 01:04:32.030
That one, yeah, I can see that for A. Yeah,
1107
01:04:32.090 --> 01:04:33.530
very steep though, very steep.
1108
01:04:33.889 --> 01:04:37.170
Yes, very high. And this here, I compare this to
1109
01:04:37.190 --> 01:04:39.070
a barn. I mean, this looks like a building. It's
1110
01:04:39.090 --> 01:04:42.199
got your chimney here. And this is like the back
1111
01:04:42.300 --> 01:04:44.000
end with your ramps, you know, where you bring all
1112
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:46.440
the stuff in. And then this whole cliff here that's
1113
01:04:46.500 --> 01:04:49.090
falling off. This is like built on the side. But
1114
01:04:49.179 --> 01:04:53.780
everything else seems to be destroyed but these three buildings. Now,
1115
01:04:54.280 --> 01:05:00.340
moving down below the Atlantis chaos, this Atlantis city, are
1116
01:05:00.380 --> 01:05:03.179
these structures. Now, these guys got hit a lot harder.
1117
01:05:03.969 --> 01:05:06.849
These are just footprints. Do you see this triangular shape here?
1118
01:05:07.489 --> 01:05:08.010
Definitely.
1119
01:05:08.369 --> 01:05:12.309
There's an arrow here. Very distinct. Yep. They jump out
1120
01:05:12.329 --> 01:05:15.949
at you. I'll just move along because these are my outlines.
1121
01:05:16.050 --> 01:05:16.730
That's what they are.
1122
01:05:17.590 --> 01:05:20.119
Like an arrowhead. The one definitely looks like an arrowhead
1123
01:05:20.179 --> 01:05:20.800
as well.
1124
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:25.960
Very geometric, very symmetrical. This one here has this triangular
1125
01:05:25.980 --> 01:05:27.519
thing with this key.
1126
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:29.449
Another type of keyhole again, yeah.
1127
01:05:29.989 --> 01:05:32.030
Right, going on top of it. And you know what
1128
01:05:32.250 --> 01:05:33.010
fractals are?
1129
01:05:34.789 --> 01:05:37.510
I should know that. I've heard the word before, fractals.
1130
01:05:37.530 --> 01:05:40.679
Well, fractals are like, you know, plants have like fractals
1131
01:05:40.699 --> 01:05:42.579
like the same shape over and over and over and over.
1132
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:43.360
Okay, yes, yes.
1133
01:05:43.420 --> 01:05:47.360
So these are all rectangular things. shapes that are over
1134
01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:50.559
and over and over again. You see that? You can
1135
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:52.639
see them all here. They're, they're all over the place
1136
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:54.659
and I'm just outlining them here.
1137
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:58.550
So it's easier to see. Yes. Right.
1138
01:06:00.309 --> 01:06:04.650
But this whole idea of like fractal, uh, architecture, I've
1139
01:06:04.690 --> 01:06:08.210
never seen that. And again, accidentally I'm looking for stuff
1140
01:06:08.269 --> 01:06:10.269
on the internet and I found these, uh, these are
1141
01:06:10.309 --> 01:06:15.849
pit houses, uh, out here in, in, uh, Tucson, Arizona,
1142
01:06:15.989 --> 01:06:18.550
they were building a highway. This here, this is a fence.
1143
01:06:19.130 --> 01:06:21.670
This over here, they're fencing it off because they were
1144
01:06:21.730 --> 01:06:24.559
digging up to put a new, they were widening the road.
1145
01:06:25.380 --> 01:06:29.760
And they found these remnants of this, these pit houses
1146
01:06:29.780 --> 01:06:32.300
that the Indians built. And as you can see, there's
1147
01:06:32.380 --> 01:06:34.920
four of them. There's one here and there's another one.
1148
01:06:34.929 --> 01:06:38.869
They're all over top. That's called a fractal architecture. One
1149
01:06:38.889 --> 01:06:40.949
over top of the other, over the other, over the other.
1150
01:06:41.570 --> 01:06:43.889
And it's the same thing we're finding on Mars. It's
1151
01:06:44.030 --> 01:06:48.920
the fractal architecture. It's pretty amazing. I don't know how
1152
01:06:48.980 --> 01:06:52.139
I find these examples to do comparisons, but sometimes they
1153
01:06:52.159 --> 01:06:52.650
just show up.
1154
01:06:53.579 --> 01:06:56.460
You just stumble upon it. I know when I'm looking
1155
01:06:56.500 --> 01:07:01.329
for something else. I've done that when... It was funny.
1156
01:07:01.630 --> 01:07:03.309
I had the same type of experience when you said
1157
01:07:03.329 --> 01:07:04.769
you had Barnes & Noble. I had the same type
1158
01:07:04.809 --> 01:07:09.050
of experience at Chapters Bookstore in Calgary, actually.
1159
01:07:09.070 --> 01:07:09.239
It was.
1160
01:07:09.969 --> 01:07:13.389
not really looking for something and stumbled upon exactly what
1161
01:07:13.429 --> 01:07:14.110
I was looking for.
1162
01:07:15.489 --> 01:07:16.710
It's like you're being guided.
1163
01:07:17.429 --> 01:07:17.690
Yes.
1164
01:07:17.949 --> 01:07:18.409
Yes, it is.
1165
01:07:18.429 --> 01:07:24.059
It's kind of weird. This is below the last five.
1166
01:07:24.539 --> 01:07:27.739
If you notice, there was five. There's five structures. This
1167
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:31.639
one also has five. And this is basically the outlines.
1168
01:07:31.900 --> 01:07:34.570
And I discuss all these in the book about their
1169
01:07:34.730 --> 01:07:38.820
geometry and their significance. And it's pretty interesting. It doesn't
1170
01:07:38.860 --> 01:07:41.380
have the impact of the grid city, but these are
1171
01:07:41.900 --> 01:07:42.539
all in the same area.
1172
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:44.820
The grid city is mind-blowing, actually. I will say that.
1173
01:07:44.980 --> 01:07:46.860
It is. I mean, that's like, let's start with that.
1174
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:50.639
This is the RG Basin. We're going all the way
1175
01:07:50.659 --> 01:07:56.590
down here, right to the end of the 30, 40
1176
01:07:56.590 --> 01:08:00.989
degree below the equator. This is a huge crater area.
1177
01:08:01.369 --> 01:08:03.969
This is Hellas over here. This is a big, they thought,
1178
01:08:04.010 --> 01:08:09.380
a big crater. It's a big lake, ocean, or This
1179
01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:11.760
is all water. The blue, that's where the low areas,
1180
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:13.539
they would think that would be where the water would
1181
01:08:13.579 --> 01:08:16.920
be on Mars. So this would be filled with water.
1182
01:08:17.500 --> 01:08:21.060
And this area we're going to talk about next is
1183
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:24.880
called RG Basin. And it would be like a port
1184
01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:28.560
city right next to the water. And this is the
1185
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:34.500
famous parrot, the parrot at RG Basins. It's a parrot formation.
1186
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:36.039
I don't know if your eyes can adjust, but it's
1187
01:08:36.060 --> 01:08:39.220
got a beak. You can see the tongue. If your
1188
01:08:39.579 --> 01:08:44.220
listeners purchase the book or the Kindle, the Kindle version
1189
01:08:44.779 --> 01:08:48.810
is great because the Kindle version has all the high-resolution
1190
01:08:48.850 --> 01:08:51.890
images embedded in the Kindle. And you can zoom in
1191
01:08:51.989 --> 01:08:53.930
on these and look at all the stuff in detail.
1192
01:08:54.970 --> 01:08:59.949
This formation was looked at by half a dozen veterinarians.
1193
01:09:00.859 --> 01:09:03.340
and we had two science papers that were published in
1194
01:09:03.380 --> 01:09:08.119
science journals about this formation, and it has 22 points
1195
01:09:08.260 --> 01:09:12.619
of anatomical correctness, which means that if you say this
1196
01:09:12.699 --> 01:09:15.340
is only just like pareidolia where you're looking at clouds,
1197
01:09:16.300 --> 01:09:21.029
cloud formations are normally just silhouettes of There's no secondary
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01:09:21.350 --> 01:09:25.510
detail like eyes, nose, mouth, stuff like that. This with
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01:09:25.529 --> 01:09:27.890
the leg joints and the toes that are down here.
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01:09:29.390 --> 01:09:33.890
There's another foot here. This has 22 points of anatomical rectus.
1201
01:09:34.689 --> 01:09:39.430
Most natural formations have no more than three. So there's
1202
01:09:39.449 --> 01:09:42.090
definitely something to that. Definitely something to this.
1203
01:09:42.189 --> 01:09:42.449
Yes.
1204
01:09:42.510 --> 01:09:45.800
This is pretty amazing. So this is the parotopia area
1205
01:09:45.949 --> 01:09:52.520
that we call parotopia. NASA has actually renamed this area Paratopia.
1206
01:09:53.050 --> 01:09:53.670
Oh, there we go.
1207
01:09:54.649 --> 01:09:58.949
Un-freaking-believable enough. So this is basically a dead parrot. It's
1208
01:09:59.010 --> 01:10:05.090
a sculpture. But it's a depiction, again, of Mesoamerican mythology.
1209
01:10:06.069 --> 01:10:12.319
Are you with me, Ray? This goes back to the
1210
01:10:12.380 --> 01:10:17.399
Maya creation mythology. We believe this depicts the principal bird deity.
1211
01:10:18.289 --> 01:10:21.930
The principal bird deity was a macaw. It was a parrot.
1212
01:10:23.569 --> 01:10:26.909
He's talked about in the Maya Popol Vuh, the story
1213
01:10:26.930 --> 01:10:30.069
of the Maya creation. And he sat in the world
1214
01:10:30.100 --> 01:10:32.880
tree at the top of the world tree. And in
1215
01:10:33.260 --> 01:10:36.119
the Maya creation story, they had the hero twins, the
1216
01:10:36.140 --> 01:10:39.260
two brothers. And the brothers were hunters. They hunted birds
1217
01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:43.960
and deer. And the principal bird deity sitting up in
1218
01:10:43.979 --> 01:10:47.079
the top of the tree, he stole the sun and
1219
01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:52.789
hid it away. So the hero twins looked for the
1220
01:10:52.829 --> 01:10:55.079
principal birdie. They saw him sitting at the top of
1221
01:10:55.100 --> 01:10:57.680
the world tree and they took their blow darts and
1222
01:10:57.699 --> 01:11:01.460
they shot him in the beak. So they hit him
1223
01:11:01.500 --> 01:11:05.229
right here. This is you see the blow dart. Yeah,
1224
01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:08.270
he's got a dart sticking in his beak. So they
1225
01:11:08.310 --> 01:11:10.649
hit him in the beak and he fell to earth.
1226
01:11:10.869 --> 01:11:13.210
They killed him and they retrieved the sun and everything
1227
01:11:13.250 --> 01:11:16.590
was wonderful. So this is basically the depiction of the
1228
01:11:17.090 --> 01:11:19.590
principal bird deity after he was shot. These are his
1229
01:11:19.689 --> 01:11:24.029
feathers up here. You see the feather frets? 100%, yeah.
1230
01:11:24.250 --> 01:11:27.890
So he's dead on the ground, and he's been shot
1231
01:11:27.930 --> 01:11:30.170
in the beak, and his one foot's up, and his
1232
01:11:30.229 --> 01:11:32.850
other leg's down with the elbow and all the little claws.
1233
01:11:33.210 --> 01:11:35.810
So that's what this shows. Again, going back to the
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01:11:35.829 --> 01:11:39.449
face on Mars, all this stuff is connected to Maya
1235
01:11:39.529 --> 01:11:43.149
and Olmec mythology. This here is just a close-up showing
1236
01:11:43.189 --> 01:11:45.680
you the beak. you can actually see the tongue here.
1237
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:49.159
There's the arrow sticking in his, or the, the dart.
1238
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:51.619
And this is his eye, the collar. And then of course,
1239
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:53.199
he's got all the feathers in the back, but that's
1240
01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:54.319
just a closeup of the head.
1241
01:11:54.340 --> 01:11:57.560
If you want to see that again, let's do the
1242
01:11:57.600 --> 01:11:58.800
zoom in one again of that.
1243
01:11:59.859 --> 01:12:04.119
So it's pretty remarkable. And NASA had taken some new
1244
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:06.979
pictures of that. That's where we have this, this new,
1245
01:12:07.060 --> 01:12:10.520
this is the newest picture of the formation. The earlier picture,
1246
01:12:10.619 --> 01:12:15.000
the foot here was a little blurry. And the, The veterinarians,
1247
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:17.899
they only found 18 points. But now with the newer picture, they,
1248
01:12:18.109 --> 01:12:20.489
of course, including all of these toes here that came
1249
01:12:20.529 --> 01:12:25.350
up to 18, from 18 to 22 points. So it's
1250
01:12:25.390 --> 01:12:32.659
pretty overwhelming. You look at this and the Atlantis Chaos City,
1251
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:36.020
that's proof. There's stuff on Mars, I would say.
1252
01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:39.300
I would say as well. I would definitely say there's
1253
01:12:39.340 --> 01:12:42.659
something going on. Something went on in Mars.
1254
01:12:43.550 --> 01:12:47.550
I like that something went on. Now, the idea of pareidolia,
1255
01:12:47.569 --> 01:12:50.270
that's what a lot of people say. Oh, you're just projecting,
1256
01:12:50.310 --> 01:12:53.510
you're seeing these things. Have you heard the term pareidolia?
1257
01:12:54.649 --> 01:12:55.850
Very common in this field.
1258
01:12:55.909 --> 01:12:59.649
Most people don't know where this came from. This came
1259
01:12:59.770 --> 01:13:02.750
from an article way back in 1994.
1260
01:13:02.750 --> 01:13:02.850
What?
1261
01:13:06.010 --> 01:13:09.750
In the Skeptical Inquirer. I got the cover there. And
1262
01:13:09.789 --> 01:13:12.770
it was an article talking about the face on Mars
1263
01:13:12.850 --> 01:13:15.390
and how we're seeing things, and the face on Mars
1264
01:13:15.449 --> 01:13:19.989
is just an illusion. And the author uses this word, peridolia.
1265
01:13:20.909 --> 01:13:23.369
So I did some research putting this book together. Where
1266
01:13:23.409 --> 01:13:25.590
does the word peridolia come from? That's kind of an
1267
01:13:25.689 --> 01:13:29.770
odd word, right? Well, it comes from the Journal of
1268
01:13:29.869 --> 01:13:32.569
Mental Science, which was released back in 1868. This goes
1269
01:13:32.590 --> 01:13:40.750
way back. Now, pareidolia was a mental disorder where patients
1270
01:13:40.930 --> 01:13:43.470
would see faces in the walls and all around them.
1271
01:13:44.210 --> 01:13:49.050
They had a condition where they would see faces out
1272
01:13:49.090 --> 01:13:54.229
of nowhere. That's where the word pareidolia comes from. So
1273
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:59.340
this author took the term pareidolia, and that's what he
1274
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:03.159
used to try to discredit the face on Mars. And
1275
01:14:03.689 --> 01:14:09.409
since then, everybody uses the word pareidolia, even with geometric structures. Oh,
1276
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:12.840
that's just pareidolia. I mean, it's like a catchphrase. And
1277
01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:16.600
because this stuff, I think, finding these things on Mars
1278
01:14:16.699 --> 01:14:19.020
with this kind of detail is so frightening to a
1279
01:14:19.060 --> 01:14:22.619
lot of people that they feel better to think it's
1280
01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:25.000
just pareidolia and then they can move on and, you know,
1281
01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:27.819
talk about who's on the Oprah show or whatever today
1282
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:31.189
and stuff like that. I think it's just a mechanism
1283
01:14:31.210 --> 01:14:34.020
that they use for their protection because this stuff It
1284
01:14:34.060 --> 01:14:35.000
really is frightening.
1285
01:14:36.140 --> 01:14:39.500
Well, it destroys your belief or your reality that you're
1286
01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:44.619
currently living in. If they take this to be true,
1287
01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:48.579
then everything they've ever learned, everything they've ever been taught
1288
01:14:50.340 --> 01:14:51.680
could be and probably is wrong.
1289
01:14:52.420 --> 01:14:52.640
Yeah.
1290
01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:57.220
And, you know, governments like the Russians, I'm sure they
1291
01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:00.720
were well aware of this in the 60s, you know,
1292
01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:05.689
which could be another program. Kennedy was killed because the
1293
01:15:05.750 --> 01:15:07.449
Russians you know they were way ahead of us with
1294
01:15:07.470 --> 01:15:11.689
the moon program and they actually had low orbiting satellites
1295
01:15:12.369 --> 01:15:14.489
with actually people in them that were going around taking
1296
01:15:14.529 --> 01:15:17.229
pictures out the window and they obviously saw a lot
1297
01:15:17.270 --> 01:15:18.810
of the stuff that was on the moon and they
1298
01:15:19.350 --> 01:15:21.710
the story goes they tried to tell Kennedy you know
1299
01:15:22.569 --> 01:15:25.010
to stop the space program but of course he didn't
1300
01:15:25.029 --> 01:15:29.149
he ended up dead but this is very dangerous stuff
1301
01:15:33.069 --> 01:15:34.449
so that's pareidolia.
1302
01:15:35.500 --> 01:15:37.880
Real, true information is dangerous.
1303
01:15:38.479 --> 01:15:39.199
It is, yes.
1304
01:15:39.659 --> 01:15:43.539
Information's power. It can be, you know, whoever has the information.
1305
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:48.659
That's why AI is such controversy right now. AI can really,
1306
01:15:49.180 --> 01:15:53.199
you know, AI is great, but why would you put
1307
01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:57.939
AI in charge of military missiles, right? So you wouldn't
1308
01:15:57.970 --> 01:16:01.529
do that. You wouldn't do that because it would be crazy.
1309
01:16:01.970 --> 01:16:04.270
But you could use AI for all other kinds of things.
1310
01:16:04.470 --> 01:16:06.590
That would be my argument. But I wouldn't put them
1311
01:16:06.630 --> 01:16:09.729
in charge of any kind of military stuff. Because, you know,
1312
01:16:09.750 --> 01:16:10.770
then we'd all be dead. Myself neither.
1313
01:16:10.890 --> 01:16:11.130
Yes.
1314
01:16:11.529 --> 01:16:14.100
Yeah. We've seen all the movies.
1315
01:16:14.149 --> 01:16:15.399
We've seen Terminator.
1316
01:16:15.859 --> 01:16:18.000
Yes, we've seen Terminator. Yeah.
1317
01:16:18.060 --> 01:16:18.859
You know, Sarah Connor.
1318
01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:19.739
We know what happens.
1319
01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:21.920
We're all not Sarah Connor, so it's not going to
1320
01:16:21.939 --> 01:16:25.000
end well. So this is a comparison of the parent
1321
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:28.199
on Mars with the same posture, you know, the side
1322
01:16:28.260 --> 01:16:30.390
view with the foot and the wing up. This was
1323
01:16:30.489 --> 01:16:33.789
made by Hopewell Indians. It's a copper plaque. A lot
1324
01:16:33.810 --> 01:16:35.890
of people don't know that the Indians, you know, they've
1325
01:16:35.949 --> 01:16:38.300
smelted copper and they made all kinds of copper things. And,
1326
01:16:39.050 --> 01:16:41.069
you know, they weren't just all running around on horses
1327
01:16:41.109 --> 01:16:41.649
shooting buffalo.
1328
01:16:41.670 --> 01:16:46.130
And there we go, making clay pots and whatnot. Yeah,
1329
01:16:46.149 --> 01:16:47.029
there's more to that.
1330
01:16:47.609 --> 01:16:51.409
Yes, there's more to that. This is actually one of
1331
01:16:51.470 --> 01:16:57.869
the first cities that the Moche Maya created. Otlatan City.
1332
01:16:58.649 --> 01:17:00.029
and you notice it's a parrot.
1333
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:02.279
It is, it is, exactly.
1334
01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:05.079
The whole city was shaped like a parrot. This is
1335
01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:07.539
very similar to what you see in the Peruvian cultures,
1336
01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:11.699
where all these cities are shaped like birds and different
1337
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:16.189
types of other animals, jaguars and things like that. So
1338
01:17:16.210 --> 01:17:18.750
this is a parrot-shaped city. It even has the tail
1339
01:17:18.810 --> 01:17:22.750
over here. This was drawn by the original archaeologists that
1340
01:17:22.770 --> 01:17:26.390
was out there surveying it, and it's very similar to
1341
01:17:26.430 --> 01:17:27.300
what we're seeing on Mars.
1342
01:17:28.409 --> 01:17:30.409
And to that plaque as well, you know, that plaque
1343
01:17:30.430 --> 01:17:31.649
that you had just showed us as well.
1344
01:17:31.890 --> 01:17:32.210
Right.
1345
01:17:32.550 --> 01:17:33.130
Very similar.
1346
01:17:33.350 --> 01:17:37.760
Both of those very similar in design. Same, same idea. So, uh,
1347
01:17:38.260 --> 01:17:42.140
the parrot was, uh, the first science paper was in
1348
01:17:42.180 --> 01:17:46.859
the journal of scientific exploration back in 2011. And the
1349
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:50.310
second paper was done about 10 years later, uh, with
1350
01:17:50.329 --> 01:17:53.729
the new image. Uh, and that was just published in 2022.
1351
01:17:53.729 --> 01:17:54.970
So that's, it's fresh.
1352
01:17:55.750 --> 01:17:55.930
Yep.
1353
01:17:56.909 --> 01:18:00.609
And, I'm a member of the Society for Planetary Study Research,
1354
01:18:00.670 --> 01:18:04.640
which is a group of scientists, geologists and physicists and
1355
01:18:04.659 --> 01:18:08.460
things like that. And I'm not a scientist. I never
1356
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:12.100
went to science school. I'm an artist, a painter. The
1357
01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:15.560
reason I got invited into the society was because of
1358
01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:18.180
this parrot paper. So I've been a member since this
1359
01:18:18.220 --> 01:18:22.130
paper came out. So that's great. This whole idea of
1360
01:18:22.909 --> 01:18:26.430
talking about the Maya with the Naranjo, This all comes
1361
01:18:26.489 --> 01:18:32.979
from the research of a geologist, Simon Martin and Nikolai Grub.
1362
01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:37.279
The book's called The Chronicle. I would highly recommend everybody
1363
01:18:37.340 --> 01:18:41.039
out there, after they buy my book, they would buy
1364
01:18:41.500 --> 01:18:44.590
The Chronicles of the Maya Kings. And it all talks to,
1365
01:18:44.949 --> 01:18:47.149
this is not me talking about the Maya star Wars.
1366
01:18:47.170 --> 01:18:49.890
This is archeologists. I mean, it's just, they don't even
1367
01:18:49.949 --> 01:18:52.489
see the connection, but, uh, that's, that's where I got
1368
01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:55.819
all that information. Uh, this is, if you have time,
1369
01:18:55.859 --> 01:18:56.899
we can go through this quickly.
1370
01:18:57.020 --> 01:18:57.239
Yeah.
1371
01:18:57.279 --> 01:18:58.079
Yeah, for sure.
1372
01:18:58.119 --> 01:18:59.680
Definitely. I usually talk.
1373
01:18:59.500 --> 01:19:02.680
About this at the end, but this is Naranjo. This
1374
01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:04.960
is the star war glyph. This is a glyph for
1375
01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:08.500
the six earth place. This is what the actual glyphs
1376
01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:12.319
look like. Um, This here is a bar, which means five,
1377
01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:15.350
and a dot six, so that's Six Earth Place. That's
1378
01:19:15.470 --> 01:19:19.069
how they read these. This is the Mars Beast. There
1379
01:19:19.109 --> 01:19:21.649
he is, he's like a serpent. This is an axe
1380
01:19:21.729 --> 01:19:26.949
over here. I've learned how to read Maya hieroglyphics. I
1381
01:19:26.989 --> 01:19:29.989
studied these for the last 20 years. When I lived
1382
01:19:30.029 --> 01:19:31.630
in New Jersey, I used to go over to the
1383
01:19:31.729 --> 01:19:34.989
University of Pennsylvania and do Maya workshops, and this is
1384
01:19:35.029 --> 01:19:38.199
where I learned a lot of this stuff. noticed that
1385
01:19:38.239 --> 01:19:40.579
we had a connection with Mars, with the Maya. I
1386
01:19:40.619 --> 01:19:42.939
was all into, you know, learning where this stuff, and
1387
01:19:42.970 --> 01:19:44.289
this is in the Dresden Codex.
1388
01:19:44.649 --> 01:19:46.510
Next time you're coming down to this area, let me know,
1389
01:19:46.569 --> 01:19:48.909
you know, we'll go out onto some of these sites here.
1390
01:19:49.850 --> 01:19:51.029
So where are you in Mexico?
1391
01:19:51.489 --> 01:19:54.289
So I'm in Campeche, and the nearest site to me
1392
01:19:54.390 --> 01:19:58.449
is the one that's called Edsna. I'm about two hours
1393
01:19:58.489 --> 01:20:02.279
away from Mayapan, about three hours away from Chichen Itza.
1394
01:20:03.180 --> 01:20:04.659
Oh, so you're further south?
1395
01:20:06.069 --> 01:20:09.250
From Chichen Itza, I'm west. I'm west of it.
1396
01:20:10.010 --> 01:20:13.850
Well, I'll keep you in my files. I could make
1397
01:20:13.869 --> 01:20:16.750
it into a tax deduction.
1398
01:20:16.909 --> 01:20:22.329
Yeah, exactly. We could run a tour. We could run
1399
01:20:22.369 --> 01:20:25.170
a tour. There's the new Mayan train that goes to
1400
01:20:25.529 --> 01:20:28.409
all the sites. It takes you all to the archaeological
1401
01:20:28.430 --> 01:20:29.829
sites here.
1402
01:20:30.229 --> 01:20:33.729
I've been to Tulum and Chichen Itza, but I haven't
1403
01:20:33.750 --> 01:20:36.800
been there in a while. But, yeah, I loved it.
1404
01:20:36.819 --> 01:20:37.539
I didn't want to leave.
1405
01:20:38.979 --> 01:20:42.859
It's incredible. One of my favorites, though, is Palenque. You know,
1406
01:20:42.979 --> 01:20:44.479
that one is... Oh, yeah, Palenque.
1407
01:20:44.579 --> 01:20:45.649
Oh, wow, that's a beautiful place.
1408
01:20:45.659 --> 01:20:48.590
With the astronauts. They have the Mayan astronaut in there.
1409
01:20:48.750 --> 01:20:50.689
I could tell you all about that. That's really not
1410
01:20:50.710 --> 01:20:51.869
an astronaut, but anyway.
1411
01:20:52.649 --> 01:20:55.750
I didn't think so, but it's an interesting take on it.
1412
01:20:55.770 --> 01:20:58.270
Well, the last time I was at Tulum, they let
1413
01:20:58.289 --> 01:20:59.250
you swim in the water.
1414
01:21:00.430 --> 01:21:02.399
Yeah, yeah. You go down to the ocean. Is that
1415
01:21:02.409 --> 01:21:03.579
what you mean by the ocean?
1416
01:21:03.619 --> 01:21:06.579
Yeah. Yeah, they used to let you go down there
1417
01:21:06.619 --> 01:21:09.199
in the water. But now it's all blocked off.
1418
01:21:09.899 --> 01:21:11.640
Everything is blocked off now these days.
1419
01:21:12.659 --> 01:21:16.250
Anyway, this is again, this is the Mars beast. This
1420
01:21:16.329 --> 01:21:18.390
is the zip monster. See his nose goes back. I
1421
01:21:18.590 --> 01:21:20.109
don't know if you saw that in the last one.
1422
01:21:20.149 --> 01:21:21.949
See how his nose goes back.
1423
01:21:23.510 --> 01:21:25.130
And that's very similar. That type of nose is very
1424
01:21:25.170 --> 01:21:28.380
similar to Shock, the water god as well. I think
1425
01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:29.600
the corn and water god as well.
1426
01:21:29.659 --> 01:21:32.220
He's all connected to the zip monster. You'll read my book.
1427
01:21:34.529 --> 01:21:38.510
Notice the Zip Monster has one, two, three, four, five,
1428
01:21:38.649 --> 01:21:41.609
six star disc on it. Okay.
1429
01:21:41.670 --> 01:21:42.529
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's six.
1430
01:21:43.210 --> 01:21:47.109
See? Six Earth place. So six is always connected with
1431
01:21:47.149 --> 01:21:52.399
the Zip Monster. Pretty interesting. This is from the Madrid Codex.
1432
01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:58.279
I call this the invasion. This is when the Martians
1433
01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:00.779
are coming down. And you talked about the Chalk God.
1434
01:22:00.819 --> 01:22:05.010
See the axe? Yes. They're holding axes. And if we
1435
01:22:05.029 --> 01:22:07.390
go back here, see, that's supposed to be an axe.
1436
01:22:08.550 --> 01:22:12.069
It's all connected to the rain god. And here they
1437
01:22:12.109 --> 01:22:14.449
are coming down. These are sky bands. So these are
1438
01:22:14.470 --> 01:22:16.930
coming down from the sky. And they all have zip
1439
01:22:16.970 --> 01:22:20.779
monster heads. See this now going back? And the rain
1440
01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:23.760
god's connected to the war and also friars. So this
1441
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:29.340
one's carrying fire. It's all discussed in the book. This
1442
01:22:29.420 --> 01:22:34.289
is from Chichen Itza. This is in one of the
1443
01:22:34.329 --> 01:22:37.369
temples there, Temple of the Jaguar. This is upstairs where
1444
01:22:37.390 --> 01:22:39.770
you're not allowed to go anymore because the paintings are
1445
01:22:39.789 --> 01:22:44.159
just falling apart. This has a sun captain up here.
1446
01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:46.539
This is like a disc, a flying disc that you
1447
01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:50.020
would see in Sumerian. You see all the battles going
1448
01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:52.619
on here? This is the battle that they're reenacting. This
1449
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:54.659
is all the fighting going on. And this is the
1450
01:22:54.699 --> 01:22:59.390
star captain up here in the disc. This is another
1451
01:22:59.449 --> 01:23:02.670
image of the star captain in the disc. He's in
1452
01:23:02.710 --> 01:23:03.390
a flying disc.
1453
01:23:03.670 --> 01:23:06.770
This is a very common emblem. You can find this
1454
01:23:06.850 --> 01:23:08.649
kind of... A lot of people wear this necklace. I
1455
01:23:08.689 --> 01:23:10.380
actually have one very similar to this.
1456
01:23:13.359 --> 01:23:16.739
Do you notice on the four corners? Those are zip monsters.
1457
01:23:17.619 --> 01:23:20.779
And they got the snout. The snout goes back over
1458
01:23:20.819 --> 01:23:24.750
his face. There's four zip monsters. And of course, he's
1459
01:23:25.149 --> 01:23:29.310
got a torch. That's a weapon. This is a Sumerian
1460
01:23:29.609 --> 01:23:33.020
star disc. And she's in there and she's got a bow.
1461
01:23:33.220 --> 01:23:35.060
This is a woman. She's got a bow and arrow.
1462
01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:38.050
A lot of the Sumerian ones have, there's usually a
1463
01:23:38.100 --> 01:23:41.170
warrior type of guy inside the disc. He's got bows
1464
01:23:41.210 --> 01:23:44.729
and arrows. This is an earlier one, but it has
1465
01:23:44.789 --> 01:23:46.789
the same points that you have here.
1466
01:23:47.630 --> 01:23:49.689
Even the double points. There's some of the double points
1467
01:23:49.750 --> 01:23:50.470
in there as well.
1468
01:23:50.489 --> 01:23:54.050
Just showing the comparison between, you know, Zachariah Sitchin talked
1469
01:23:54.090 --> 01:23:56.609
about the Anunnaki and the Mars kind of, So it's
1470
01:23:56.649 --> 01:23:59.250
the same story that the Maya had, but of course,
1471
01:23:59.310 --> 01:24:01.850
like the telephone idea that was told a little differently.
1472
01:24:03.270 --> 01:24:08.810
This is Dr. Brandenburg's, the nuclear explosions with the Xenon 129.
1473
01:24:08.810 --> 01:24:11.920
One happened here in Cydonia and the other over in
1474
01:24:11.939 --> 01:24:15.680
the Utopia area, which NASA had retitled for some reason.
1475
01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:20.579
They call it the Galaxy of Chaos. You know, chaos,
1476
01:24:20.619 --> 01:24:23.199
that means like there was problems there, right? Exactly.
1477
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:23.979
Exactly.
1478
01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:26.569
So he's like he never got an answer why they
1479
01:24:26.609 --> 01:24:30.970
renamed it. But that's the Utopia area. That's where we landed.
1480
01:24:31.930 --> 01:24:34.170
The Vikings were supposed to land in Cydonia, but it
1481
01:24:34.210 --> 01:24:37.180
ended up landing over in the Utopia area because it's
1482
01:24:37.220 --> 01:24:40.420
very flat. Hardly anything going on because everything was destroyed
1483
01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:45.479
during the nuclear war. This is one of the reactants.
1484
01:24:46.420 --> 01:24:49.060
This is the Aztec flower war that we talked about before.
1485
01:24:49.579 --> 01:24:53.840
where they coordinated with their neighbors about having these ceremonial battles.
1486
01:24:54.500 --> 01:24:56.119
This was all done like on the up and up.
1487
01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:59.930
They'd say, hey, you know, next Sunday is the Venus
1488
01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:02.630
connection with Mars and we got to do our reenactments
1489
01:25:02.689 --> 01:25:06.729
and they'd take captives. They wouldn't kill anybody. These were
1490
01:25:06.770 --> 01:25:12.050
called the Aztec Flower Wars. Same idea of reenactments. Here
1491
01:25:12.090 --> 01:25:14.470
you got a Civil War reenactment. You know, these guys
1492
01:25:14.510 --> 01:25:17.109
spend all kinds of money dressing up like, you know,
1493
01:25:17.109 --> 01:25:20.399
200 years ago with the Civil War and or 100
1494
01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:24.989
years ago, whatever, and very accurate, and they reenact these battles.
1495
01:25:26.090 --> 01:25:30.050
And of course, we have crazy people that reenact Star
1496
01:25:30.069 --> 01:25:39.140
Wars battles. Exactly. So that's basically how I ended here. Rye,
1497
01:25:39.180 --> 01:25:41.960
this is one of the paintings up in the temple
1498
01:25:42.979 --> 01:25:46.079
of the Feathered Serpent, riding the sky. This is a
1499
01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:48.979
sky captain over here that we talked about. Here, he's
1500
01:25:48.989 --> 01:25:51.060
got a weapon in his hand, and this is a
1501
01:25:51.100 --> 01:25:54.579
guy on a feathered serpent. There's another warrior here. He's
1502
01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:57.659
got a spear. So this is a depiction of a
1503
01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:02.140
celestial war going on. Below these guys are all other
1504
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:04.779
guys battling, but this is like, this is Star Wars.
1505
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:08.680
That's what's depicted at Chichen Itza in the Temple of
1506
01:26:08.699 --> 01:26:12.899
the Jaguar. Most people don't even see these.
1507
01:26:13.779 --> 01:26:15.479
No, no, they don't. It's very difficult.
1508
01:26:15.510 --> 01:26:17.949
They don't allow you to go up there anymore. These paintings,
1509
01:26:18.270 --> 01:26:23.479
these are watercolor reproductions of the actual motifs.
1510
01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:23.960
Yes.
1511
01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:28.039
These were done in the early 1900s by this woman, Adela.
1512
01:26:28.779 --> 01:26:31.500
And she was an archaeologist and a painter, and she
1513
01:26:31.539 --> 01:26:34.359
was allowed to go up there. Thank God. I mentioned
1514
01:26:34.380 --> 01:26:37.020
this in the book. If she wasn't allowed to do this,
1515
01:26:37.199 --> 01:26:39.739
these paintings would be gone because they're just falling apart.
1516
01:26:41.229 --> 01:26:45.069
So she was able to depict these in detail. And
1517
01:26:45.229 --> 01:26:49.119
that's why we have these today. And this basically says
1518
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:50.239
it all. This is the battle.
1519
01:26:51.300 --> 01:26:52.859
The battle of Mars and Earth.
1520
01:26:53.619 --> 01:26:53.819
Yep.
1521
01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:57.699
And, of course, if you want to read more, you know,
1522
01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.100
buy five copies for your mom and family.
1523
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:01.020
There we go.
1524
01:27:01.020 --> 01:27:04.079
It's The Great Architects of Mars. If you really want
1525
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:06.939
to get into it, I would recommend the Kindle. Not
1526
01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:10.640
only is it cheaper, but you have access to these
1527
01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:11.960
high-resolution pictures where.
1528
01:27:11.859 --> 01:27:14.220
You can really get in there and look at the parents.
1529
01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:16.659
Uh, the book of course just has, you know, your
1530
01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:20.300
flat reproductions and stuff. Uh, but this is what I've
1531
01:27:20.319 --> 01:27:23.979
been doing the last 30 years. And, um, if your
1532
01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:27.659
audience has any questions, you know, look out, uh, you
1533
01:27:27.689 --> 01:27:31.470
can contact me on Facebook. I have Facebook page, uh,
1534
01:27:31.529 --> 01:27:32.090
George J.
1535
01:27:32.130 --> 01:27:32.550
Haas.
1536
01:27:32.890 --> 01:27:35.369
I'd be glad to talk to you. Uh, any questions
1537
01:27:35.390 --> 01:27:39.069
you have, I have the website, the Sidoni Institute and, uh,
1538
01:27:39.329 --> 01:27:42.220
you know, the book's available. The book is produced actually
1539
01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:45.369
by Simon and Schuster. It's, um, Barron Company, which is
1540
01:27:45.409 --> 01:27:47.470
a subsidiary of Simon & Schuster. So I'm like, I'm
1541
01:27:47.510 --> 01:27:48.729
published by Simon & Schuster.
1542
01:27:48.989 --> 01:27:51.270
Hey, that's great. That's great.
1543
01:27:51.350 --> 01:27:53.189
I know. I'm walking on air every day.
1544
01:27:53.649 --> 01:27:57.609
Exactly. Well, George, this has been fantastic. So like you said,
1545
01:27:58.489 --> 01:28:00.260
do you have a website that everybody can look for
1546
01:28:00.300 --> 01:28:03.159
you and get a hold of your books? Or is
1547
01:28:03.239 --> 01:28:05.020
it on, of course, it's on Amazon.
1548
01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:08.899
Of course, it's on Amazon. It's available at Simon & Schuster.
1549
01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:12.979
It's available at Barron Company.com. If you go to the,
1550
01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:16.380
just type in Sedona Institute and I have a website.
1551
01:28:17.380 --> 01:28:19.880
All of the science papers are available there for free.
1552
01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:23.579
There's other links to videos and things like that. So,
1553
01:28:23.899 --> 01:28:27.579
and you can contact me, friend me on Facebook, be
1554
01:28:27.619 --> 01:28:29.869
happy to talk to you. This is all I do.
1555
01:28:30.949 --> 01:28:33.470
You know, I'm a kept man. My wife's, you know,
1556
01:28:33.710 --> 01:28:35.710
keeps me home here working, taking care of the farm.
1557
01:28:36.210 --> 01:28:38.689
I got horses and goats to take care of, mowing
1558
01:28:38.750 --> 01:28:39.850
and she's killing.
1559
01:28:41.390 --> 01:28:41.529
Me.
1560
01:28:41.649 --> 01:28:44.970
A lot of work. In sunny Virginia.
1561
01:28:45.590 --> 01:28:49.859
There we go. There we go. I have a question here.
1562
01:28:49.880 --> 01:28:52.819
Before we end this all for tonight, do you think
1563
01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:56.979
that some of Hollywood is getting some of these things
1564
01:28:57.159 --> 01:29:01.800
right now? for instance, John Carter of Mars. I think
1565
01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:06.840
the original was, oh, was it like the Prince or
1566
01:29:06.859 --> 01:29:10.060
the Princess of Mars was something along that line of Barsoom,
1567
01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:12.399
you know, like those kinds of stories. Do you think
1568
01:29:12.550 --> 01:29:13.689
that some of those, right?
1569
01:29:14.909 --> 01:29:18.029
Well, Disney put the movie out. The movie was great.
1570
01:29:18.710 --> 01:29:22.090
They should have never called it John Carter. It should
1571
01:29:22.109 --> 01:29:24.909
have been the Princess of Mars, the original title.
1572
01:29:25.590 --> 01:29:26.289
Yeah, exactly.
1573
01:29:26.390 --> 01:29:33.720
It's a great movie. It's entertaining. From what I found
1574
01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:35.840
on Mars, there's nothing right in the movie.
1575
01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:38.000
Fair enough. Fair enough.
1576
01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:44.399
But it's a great movie. For some reason, Disney got
1577
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:47.449
that movie out and then ran away from it. I mean,
1578
01:29:47.470 --> 01:29:49.050
there was no products made.
1579
01:29:49.390 --> 01:29:51.229
It was nothing. It was just awful. It was like,
1580
01:29:51.289 --> 01:29:56.029
why did you make this movie? I read, I think
1581
01:29:56.069 --> 01:29:58.720
I read three of the books. I know there's, there
1582
01:29:58.779 --> 01:30:00.439
is a lot of those books. I read three of
1583
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:03.180
them by Edgar Rice Burroughs. I think it is the,
1584
01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:07.670
is the author. Uh, great series. Really interesting. I think they,
1585
01:30:08.369 --> 01:30:10.670
I heard that there's a possibility that they're going to
1586
01:30:12.109 --> 01:30:14.449
revive it and maybe not Disney, but someone else is.
1587
01:30:14.449 --> 01:30:16.890
Talking about that and nothing's ever been done.
1588
01:30:17.390 --> 01:30:17.670
Yeah.
1589
01:30:18.010 --> 01:30:18.229
Yeah.
1590
01:30:19.609 --> 01:30:22.619
Uh, The interesting thing about the movie was they had
1591
01:30:22.659 --> 01:30:25.600
that machine that would go and destroy things, just run
1592
01:30:25.659 --> 01:30:28.180
over everything and destroy. That's probably what happened to a
1593
01:30:28.220 --> 01:30:30.920
lot of things on Mars. But as for the people
1594
01:30:31.020 --> 01:30:35.199
and stuff like that, they were probably an advanced culture.
1595
01:30:36.390 --> 01:30:40.590
But from what we're finding on Mars, I've watched the
1596
01:30:40.630 --> 01:30:42.310
movie because I was like, oh, God, they're going to
1597
01:30:42.350 --> 01:30:45.449
show stuff that they didn't. Nothing in the movie really
1598
01:30:46.170 --> 01:30:47.449
showed what we're seeing on Mars.
1599
01:30:48.010 --> 01:30:48.449
Fair enough.
1600
01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:52.869
But that's just my opinion. Okay. But I really loved it.
1601
01:30:52.899 --> 01:30:55.279
It was a great movie. They could have made a
1602
01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:55.949
series of them.
1603
01:30:56.869 --> 01:30:59.149
I really enjoyed the movie and I know it was
1604
01:30:59.170 --> 01:31:02.250
a bomb, but myself, I thought it was great. I,
1605
01:31:02.470 --> 01:31:05.250
I really enjoyed it. I thought it was great. Well, George,
1606
01:31:05.289 --> 01:31:06.649
I do want to say thank you so much for
1607
01:31:06.689 --> 01:31:10.170
spending the time, you know, and, and, and, you know,
1608
01:31:10.229 --> 01:31:13.409
giving us that presentation as well. I really appreciate it.
1609
01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:16.140
And it's, it's a real eye opener that I think
1610
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:18.739
it was Atlantis chaos is what you said. That city,
1611
01:31:19.380 --> 01:31:22.630
That was something that I never saw before. And it
1612
01:31:22.689 --> 01:31:26.170
was something that was very intriguing as well, you know,
1613
01:31:26.210 --> 01:31:29.510
just to see that. There's streets and roads.
1614
01:31:30.050 --> 01:31:35.460
Yeah, it's overwhelming. And in the community that does the streets,
1615
01:31:35.539 --> 01:31:37.460
it was like all over the place when it came out.
1616
01:31:38.020 --> 01:31:40.159
And so I had to put it in the book
1617
01:31:40.199 --> 01:31:43.390
because like everybody knew about it. But I'm surprised how
1618
01:31:43.430 --> 01:31:45.329
many people don't know about it.
1619
01:31:46.340 --> 01:31:47.859
Yeah, I'm one of them. I'm definitely one of them.
1620
01:31:47.890 --> 01:31:50.229
Hopefully the book will get the information out there. And
1621
01:31:50.710 --> 01:31:53.949
I provide image numbers and everything in the book. So
1622
01:31:53.970 --> 01:31:56.010
if people want to like, you know, they don't believe it,
1623
01:31:56.029 --> 01:31:58.229
they want to see the actual. I mean, looking at
1624
01:31:58.289 --> 01:32:01.289
these actual pictures, they're freaking mind boggling. I mean, and
1625
01:32:01.329 --> 01:32:03.569
they're really high resolution. So it's amazing.
1626
01:32:04.350 --> 01:32:07.029
Extremely. Well, George, again, I want to say thank you
1627
01:32:07.050 --> 01:32:07.789
so much for coming on.
1628
01:32:08.390 --> 01:32:10.750
Well, thanks for having me on. And I thank you
1629
01:32:10.789 --> 01:32:13.390
for reaching out to me. The publisher was very surprised
1630
01:32:13.430 --> 01:32:16.449
that somebody in this late period, wanted to have me
1631
01:32:16.609 --> 01:32:19.449
on and, uh, I'd love to come on when my
1632
01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:24.199
new book comes out, uh, which will be out next year. The, my,
1633
01:32:24.260 --> 01:32:27.359
this book's done so well that they, they, in January,
1634
01:32:27.739 --> 01:32:32.130
about two days before the new years of this year, they,
1635
01:32:32.310 --> 01:32:34.270
they gave me a call that, uh, they wanted me
1636
01:32:34.310 --> 01:32:36.449
to do a second book and I have like five
1637
01:32:36.510 --> 01:32:37.569
books ready to go.
1638
01:32:37.590 --> 01:32:38.770
Oh, wow.
1639
01:32:39.050 --> 01:32:41.729
Um, I have so much stuff. Five more episodes of
1640
01:32:41.770 --> 01:32:44.930
you coming on then, right? Right.
1641
01:32:44.949 --> 01:32:48.609
And so, you know, that'll be out next year. And
1642
01:32:48.729 --> 01:32:51.010
I'm going through the, you know, the process now of,
1643
01:32:51.510 --> 01:32:54.609
you know, reviewing the chapters and stuff. It takes a
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long time. And I told the publisher, you know, with
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01:32:57.449 --> 01:32:59.369
this rate, I'll be dead by the time my third
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01:32:59.409 --> 01:33:03.689
book comes out. But because, you know, I'm not a
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01:33:03.689 --> 01:33:04.750
young man anymore.
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01:33:05.050 --> 01:33:05.189
Yeah.
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Well, thank you again for having me on.
1650
01:33:07.939 --> 01:33:09.539
If you want to have me on to talk about
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01:33:09.579 --> 01:33:13.439
anything else here, I got more. There's more stuff in
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01:33:13.460 --> 01:33:16.079
the book to talk about. It's just amazing stuff. We'll
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01:33:16.100 --> 01:33:17.180
see what your audience thinks.
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01:33:18.079 --> 01:33:20.579
I have a couple of questions. Like, well, we'll save
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01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:22.670
that for another time. But, you know, I've heard some
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01:33:22.689 --> 01:33:25.529
things about the tubes and the tubes in Mars as well,
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01:33:25.569 --> 01:33:25.869
you know.
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01:33:25.890 --> 01:33:27.489
Oh, yeah.
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01:33:27.829 --> 01:33:30.270
OK, we'll just leave it at that. We'll leave it
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01:33:30.329 --> 01:33:34.289
at that. And it's a teaser for the next episode. So, George, again,
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01:33:34.329 --> 01:33:34.949
thank you so much.
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01:33:35.699 --> 01:33:37.010
Thank you. Thanks for having me on.
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01:33:38.390 --> 01:33:43.489
All right, everyone. George Haas. And that was amazing. Great episode.
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01:33:45.149 --> 01:33:47.989
Out of the ballpark on that one. To the moon
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01:33:48.029 --> 01:33:53.640
and back. To Mars and back. Very interesting. And, you know,
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01:33:53.720 --> 01:33:56.119
it's kind of in my backyard here with everything tying
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01:33:56.140 --> 01:33:58.180
in with the Mayans and the Olmecs and the Aztecs.
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01:33:58.979 --> 01:34:01.739
And I want to dig deeper. I want to go
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01:34:01.779 --> 01:34:08.000
deeper into this. It's really fascinating. And Mars has always
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01:34:08.159 --> 01:34:11.819
intrigued me. There's always something about it. I've always looked up,
1671
01:34:12.819 --> 01:34:16.210
saw the little red planet, little red star, and just
1672
01:34:16.229 --> 01:34:18.210
feel like it has more of a story that we're
1673
01:34:18.390 --> 01:34:22.069
just not understanding or we haven't been told or it's
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01:34:22.090 --> 01:34:24.609
been hidden from us or we just don't know yet.
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01:34:25.350 --> 01:34:28.680
And hopefully soon, once they get all this information out,
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01:34:29.159 --> 01:34:32.279
we will be able to to actually start to get
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01:34:32.359 --> 01:34:36.220
those answers and piece those pieces of the puzzle together.
1678
01:34:36.899 --> 01:34:42.449
The great Mayan Star Wars. There's a movie. All right, everyone.
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01:34:42.550 --> 01:34:46.510
Until next time, keep your curiosity wandering, keep the light lit,
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01:34:47.130 --> 01:34:49.029
and always find your way home.
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01:35:00.609 --> 01:35:03.850
Beneath the stars where shadows grow.
1682
01:35:04.970 --> 01:35:08.149
The Nephilim's echoes whisper low.
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01:35:09.340 --> 01:35:12.279
Bigfoot roams through the forest deep.
1684
01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:15.100
And Dogman prowls.
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01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:16.659
Where the brave won't sleep.
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01:35:18.140 --> 01:35:23.710
Across lost history we wonder why Seeking the truth that
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01:35:23.770 --> 01:35:26.109
time tried to hide.
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01:35:26.770 --> 01:35:30.270
Keep your curiosity wandering in the light lit Through the darkness,
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01:35:30.329 --> 01:35:33.149
don't ever quit In the codex, the.
1690
01:35:33.029 --> 01:35:38.329
Mystery's coming Always find your way back.
1691
01:35:40.899 --> 01:35:49.899
Home UFOs streak through the velvet skies Aliens watch with
1692
01:35:50.060 --> 01:35:55.500
unblinking eyes The paranormal hums where silence.
1693
01:35:55.140 --> 01:36:01.899
Breaks In the void of secrets, a lantern wakes. Through
1694
01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:07.159
hidden realms, a story is untold. The cold gas flame
1695
01:36:07.300 --> 01:36:08.800
is the light to hold.
1696
01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:12.939
Keep your curiosities wandering in the light lit.
1697
01:36:13.119 --> 01:36:14.819
Through the darkness, don't ever quit.
1698
01:36:15.359 --> 01:36:17.760
In the codex, the mystery's coming undone.
1699
01:36:28.140 --> 01:36:33.520
Some UFOs streak through the velvet skies Aliens watch with
1700
01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:39.729
unblinking eyes The paranormal homes where silence breaks.
1701
01:36:41.010 --> 01:36:43.930
In the void of secrets a lantern wakes.
1702
01:36:45.270 --> 01:36:49.029
Through hidden realms and stories untold.
1703
01:36:49.689 --> 01:36:54.289
The Kogast flame is a light to hold Keep your
1704
01:36:54.329 --> 01:36:56.270
curiosities wandering.
1705
01:36:55.750 --> 01:36:56.630
In the light lit.
1706
01:36:56.729 --> 01:36:58.489
Through the darkness, don't ever quit.
1707
01:36:58.989 --> 01:37:01.350
In the Codex, the mystery's coming.
1708
01:37:01.609 --> 01:37:11.430
Always find your way back home.
1709
01:37:11.550 --> 01:37:17.180
Legends rise from the Earth's deep core. A lost legacy
1710
01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:18.500
we can't ignore.
1711
01:37:20.210 --> 01:37:25.930
With every step, the veil grows thin Revealing worlds where
1712
01:37:25.970 --> 01:37:31.159
the strange begins Keep your curiosities wandering in the light
1713
01:37:31.199 --> 01:37:34.760
lit Through the darkness, don't ever quit In the codex,
1714
01:37:34.979 --> 01:37:38.760
the mysteries come And always find your way back home
1715
01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:44.029
From giant cryptids that call Aliens, histories will.
1716
01:37:43.789 --> 01:37:48.029
Uncover it all With Ryder, Cody, and Gal.
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01:37:48.149 --> 01:37:53.550
We'll never be alone Together we'll always find our way home.
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01:37:54.739 --> 01:37:56.619
Oh, oh, oh
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01:37:57.960 --> 01:38:04.840
Oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh