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Sunday morning. Well with us today is Commissioner Bill Bratton
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served two terms as Commissioner of the City of New
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York at the NYPD, one under Rudy Giuliani and one
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under Mayor Di Blasio, two extremely different people. And well, Commissioner,
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you know you love New York. New York loves you.
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Give us your gut feeling what the heck is going on?
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City's in trouble. It really is in trouble that Fortunately
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the NYPD, under the leadership of the Common Commissioner Jesse Tish,
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is working very hard to hold it together in terms
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of crime disorder, but the politics of the city just
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get worse and worse, if you will, crazier. The recent
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Pediteia attacks is causing so much concern and actually going
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to cause a lot of people who make money and
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pay taxes in the city to leave. And that's the
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reality of it, as many others have already done.
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Well, so many publications like The New York Post has
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published that he borrowed either five million eleven million dollars
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from the Governor's office based on relief to balance this year,
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and with the amount of people that are leaving, it
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probably costs another eleven billion dollars and lost revenue. Does
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any realize that what happens the next year's budget.
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Well, one of the realities that's not fully understood in
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New York City is that a phenomenal share of the
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revenue comes from a relatively small proportion of the population,
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and that share supports the rest of the population to
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a large degree. And what the mayor is doing is
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effectively undermining that small proportion of the population the businesses
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that really support the city, and it's going to cause
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many of them to leave. And if they leave, their
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tax dollars go with him, and he's going to have
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less to work with, he and the governor, and again,
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the future is going to be problematic.
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I am worried about our city. You know. I felt
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that everything is workable, but I'm starting to really worry
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about our city. Not I heard, and I haven't seen
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the actual story yet that even Bank America has decided
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to build a new tower in Texas.
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Well. I think we're seeing significant stories about that's. My
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office is located up on Park Avenue right and actually
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the new JP Morgan building across from the recently renovated
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Waldorf Park Avenue is going through a renaissance at the moment,
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but the reality is, in a few years time, are
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those companies that are right now pouring a lot of
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money into that renaissance going to want to stay as
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the city continues to deteriorate in many respects and the
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sense of the ability to fund the many services that
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it provides. And then the public safety issue, We're very
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fortunate that, as I mentioned earlier, we get Jesse Tisher's commissioner.
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Jesse understands the department, understands public safety, but so many
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of the mayor's promises that he made during the campaign
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that many of the supporters are pushing him to fulfill.
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So far, he's left the police department pretty much alone,
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except for not giving it sufficient resources in terms of
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the numbers of officers. He canceled the plan to hire
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five hundred and forty additional officers. The department is critically
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shot by several thousand officers. Jesse's done a wonderful job
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with what she has, but being worn out. That's tragic
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that the cops are making a lot of money, which actually, ironically,
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they're making money which will encourage many of them when
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they reach retirement age to leave because basically, the way
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the retirement system works here, it's based on their last
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three years of salary and all the money they're making
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that they kind of afford not to leave. So it's
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it's it's really it's a Bubi's cube type of problem
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that they're going to have a hard time trying to
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put it all together.
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Well, my number one concern, You're number one concern too,
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was keeping our people safe. And by the way, they
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just put out a thing from the governor's office and
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I guess the Attorney General's office ordering old county executives
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not to cooperate with ICE. Now, when I talk to
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the judge in our office, retired judge, he says, that's
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that's it's against the law because the federal government has supremacy.
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It's a supremacy court. Of course, what do you think
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is going to happen with that? With the with Governor
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Hucals and in the Attorney General's I guess order to
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the county.
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Exact independent of the law is what Trump. President Trump
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has already initiated in the sense that he controls a
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lot of budget, a lot of revenue that comes to
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states and to cities, and I know that firsthand, is
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police commissioner. We got phenomenal amounts of money from the
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federal government every year. And what Trump has threatened to do,
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when is in fact done in some locations, is to
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withhold federal funding from cities that do not support is
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immigration initiative. So the full effect of that dilemma has
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not yet been felt as some of these new laws
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that are being passed by states like New York, so
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the full impact of that is yet to be felt.
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Let's face we've been a sanctuary city going back to
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my time as commissioned in twenty fifteen. Twenty sixteen when
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we first started using that term. To Vlasio of the
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mayor I work for, was supportive of the concept of
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New York being a sanctuary city. And so going forward
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now ten years into that designation. But the federal government
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withholding a large sums of money that's a new initiative
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and is a state, is a city that's going to
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lose a lot of high paying tax payers because of
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petitive and other issues, and they're going to lose further
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additional federal revenue. So your concerns about the city a
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well placed that how it's all going to end up.
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I wish I had a clear crystal ball the right
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now that crystal ball is really swirling and it's very cloudy.
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Anything else you want to sell the tell all Americans
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and all the people in our city, in our.
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State, Well, John, you and I have been along not
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a long time. I've been associated with the police world
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for fifty some ideas now still work with it, and
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it's been quite of all the coast by the ups
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and downs, and we're going, I think into one of
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those downs. One of the great things about the city,
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about this country, about so many of the people that
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both you and I know, is the resiliency that in
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the worst of times we see some of the best
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of people coming forward. So we're about to go into
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some tough times and hopefully that resiliency that we've seen
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throughout our life, the comeback. We've seen New York come
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back time and again, time and again. When everybody thinks
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it's down for the count back it comes. So let's
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hope that this time will be like that at those
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times in the past.
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Bill Bratton, thank you for your common sense, and let's
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pray for our city, pray for US state, and pray
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for our country.
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Thank you so much, follow us John
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Sunday morning. Well with us today is Commissioner Bill Bratton
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served two terms as Commissioner of the City of New
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York at the NYPD, one under Rudy Giuliani and one
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under Mayor Di Blasio, two extremely different people. And well, Commissioner,
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you know you love New York. New York loves you.
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Give us your gut feeling what the heck is going on?
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City's in trouble. It really is in trouble that Fortunately
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the NYPD, under the leadership of the Common Commissioner Jesse Tish,
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is working very hard to hold it together in terms
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of crime disorder, but the politics of the city just
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get worse and worse, if you will, crazier. The recent
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Pediteia attacks is causing so much concern and actually going
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to cause a lot of people who make money and
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pay taxes in the city to leave. And that's the
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reality of it, as many others have already done.
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Well, so many publications like The New York Post has
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published that he borrowed either five million eleven million dollars
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from the Governor's office based on relief to balance this year,
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and with the amount of people that are leaving, it
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probably costs another eleven billion dollars and lost revenue. Does
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any realize that what happens the next year's budget.
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Well, one of the realities that's not fully understood in
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New York City is that a phenomenal share of the
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revenue comes from a relatively small proportion of the population,
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and that share supports the rest of the population to
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a large degree. And what the mayor is doing is
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effectively undermining that small proportion of the population the businesses
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that really support the city, and it's going to cause
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many of them to leave. And if they leave, their
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tax dollars go with him, and he's going to have
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less to work with, he and the governor, and again,
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the future is going to be problematic.
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I am worried about our city. You know. I felt
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that everything is workable, but I'm starting to really worry
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about our city. Not I heard, and I haven't seen
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the actual story yet that even Bank America has decided
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to build a new tower in Texas.
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Well. I think we're seeing significant stories about that's. My
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office is located up on Park Avenue right and actually
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the new JP Morgan building across from the recently renovated
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Waldorf Park Avenue is going through a renaissance at the moment,
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but the reality is, in a few years time, are
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those companies that are right now pouring a lot of
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money into that renaissance going to want to stay as
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the city continues to deteriorate in many respects and the
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sense of the ability to fund the many services that
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it provides. And then the public safety issue, We're very
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fortunate that, as I mentioned earlier, we get Jesse Tisher's commissioner.
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Jesse understands the department, understands public safety, but so many
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of the mayor's promises that he made during the campaign
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that many of the supporters are pushing him to fulfill.
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So far, he's left the police department pretty much alone,
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except for not giving it sufficient resources in terms of
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the numbers of officers. He canceled the plan to hire
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five hundred and forty additional officers. The department is critically
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shot by several thousand officers. Jesse's done a wonderful job
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with what she has, but being worn out. That's tragic
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that the cops are making a lot of money, which actually, ironically,
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they're making money which will encourage many of them when
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they reach retirement age to leave because basically, the way
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the retirement system works here, it's based on their last
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three years of salary and all the money they're making
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that they kind of afford not to leave. So it's
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it's it's really it's a Bubi's cube type of problem
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that they're going to have a hard time trying to
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put it all together.
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Well, my number one concern, You're number one concern too,
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was keeping our people safe. And by the way, they
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just put out a thing from the governor's office and
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I guess the Attorney General's office ordering old county executives
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not to cooperate with ICE. Now, when I talk to
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the judge in our office, retired judge, he says, that's
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that's it's against the law because the federal government has supremacy.
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It's a supremacy court. Of course, what do you think
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is going to happen with that? With the with Governor
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Hucals and in the Attorney General's I guess order to
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the county.
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Exact independent of the law is what Trump. President Trump
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has already initiated in the sense that he controls a
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lot of budget, a lot of revenue that comes to
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states and to cities, and I know that firsthand, is
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police commissioner. We got phenomenal amounts of money from the
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federal government every year. And what Trump has threatened to do,
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when is in fact done in some locations, is to
85
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withhold federal funding from cities that do not support is
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immigration initiative. So the full effect of that dilemma has
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not yet been felt as some of these new laws
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that are being passed by states like New York, so
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the full impact of that is yet to be felt.
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Let's face we've been a sanctuary city going back to
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my time as commissioned in twenty fifteen. Twenty sixteen when
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we first started using that term. To Vlasio of the
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mayor I work for, was supportive of the concept of
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New York being a sanctuary city. And so going forward
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now ten years into that designation. But the federal government
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withholding a large sums of money that's a new initiative
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and is a state, is a city that's going to
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lose a lot of high paying tax payers because of
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petitive and other issues, and they're going to lose further
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additional federal revenue. So your concerns about the city a
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well placed that how it's all going to end up.
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I wish I had a clear crystal ball the right
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now that crystal ball is really swirling and it's very cloudy.
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Anything else you want to sell the tell all Americans
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and all the people in our city, in our.
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State, Well, John, you and I have been along not
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a long time. I've been associated with the police world
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for fifty some ideas now still work with it, and
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it's been quite of all the coast by the ups
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and downs, and we're going, I think into one of
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those downs. One of the great things about the city,
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about this country, about so many of the people that
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both you and I know, is the resiliency that in
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the worst of times we see some of the best
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of people coming forward. So we're about to go into
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some tough times and hopefully that resiliency that we've seen
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throughout our life, the comeback. We've seen New York come
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back time and again, time and again. When everybody thinks
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it's down for the count back it comes. So let's
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hope that this time will be like that at those
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times in the past.
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Bill Bratton, thank you for your common sense, and let's
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pray for our city, pray for US state, and pray
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for our country.
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Thank you so much, follow us John
