Five-Star Books We Cannot Put Down

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Hello and welcome to a very special podcast episode by Bonus Dad, Bonus Daughter.
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We are I can't put this down.
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I completely missed.
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There's like a ledge beside me to put this on, and I just went, ugh.
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Anyway.
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We're going to talk about books today, one of my favourite subjects.
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Well, yes, I've got a I have written an episode on books, like the history of books and all of that, but I thought you you don't like it when I do the history of books.
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It's not that I don't like it, I just don't think it's as engaging as our other content.
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No, no.
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So I've so I was kind of ditched that idea, and I thought, well, still what to do an episode on books, but what could we do that's slightly different?
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So I said to Hannah, choose five of your favourite books.
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Yes.
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And we've got five each.
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We do.
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I didn't realise the term was favourite.
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Or five books.
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Five first five books that pop into your head.
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Yeah.
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Sorry, I'm just getting my Kimberstreak up.
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And you said to me, actually, you you did message me and you went, Oh god, I can't choose just five because I read so much.
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Yeah.
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And I read a lot of stuff that I wouldn't want you to know that I've read.
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Uh so like what?
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Nothing in particular.
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Um, so we'll move on.
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Do you read any of Vicky's books?
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I do not.
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I have not, but I want to.
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Apparently your mum reads them, and they're very good.
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So we have a friend.
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Um we have an author for we we have a family friend with both Simon and Vicky, um, friends with both of them.
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Uh bizarrely enough, I also work with Simon as well.
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And I also work with Vicky.
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But the but your mum, though, knew them before I did.
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But then yeah, but Vicki Small World.
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Yeah, Vicky Walklate, and she is as an author, she does publish under her own name, doesn't she?
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Yeah, she does.
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She does Euro again.
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So I'm giving her a little bit of a shout-out.
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Yeah, no, no, yeah, absolutely.
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But she should.
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She writes, shall we say, monster romance novels.
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Romanticy is what Davy means.
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Is that what it's called?
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Is that the genre?
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So yeah, and but Simon calls it pure filth.
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I will read hers, yeah.
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It is up my street.
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Not not so much the monster stuff.
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Um, I want to read her, she's got like a vampire type series.
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Uh I want to read that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But she's very she's very good and she's very she's very published.
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So I've heard.
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I haven't I haven't read anything yet, but I will.
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Um it's it's next on the list.
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I've just through a massive series at the moment.
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I um I wrote a short story and I sent it to Vicky and I went, Vicki, could you edit this for me, please?
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And she did, bless her.
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She edited this for me.
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So yeah.
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But no, she uh she she's very good.
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Yeah.
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But you but but what what other sort of stuff do you read then, Hannah?
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I I read all sorts of shit, and uh less said about that the better.
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I have gone with very clean uh books.
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Okay, yeah.
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Well, one of them so much, but yeah.
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You like the famous five Enid Blighton, roll gall.
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Fantastic Mr.
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Fox.
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I do have one young adult series on here because I couldn't not put it on there.
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Yeah, um, but yeah.
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Oh, I think I might know which adult series that is.
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I think you do, young adult series, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, so I think I know one.
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So quick question though, before you we before we do dive fully into the five books each.
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Kindle or book?
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Kindle.
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Kindle?
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The reason I am a Kindle user, and I do get what people say, yes, the book is lovely to turn the page, yes, it smells great.
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I get all of those things, but you do not know how useful a Kindle is when you are frickin' blind as a bat.
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You can enlarge the print, it's backlit, you can choose your font, you can choose whatever you want to do with it, you can choose how you want it laid out, portrait, landscape.
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You can't do that with a book.
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Yeah, you can't.
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So Kindle.
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I will always be a Kindle user, and I'm fully Kindle.
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I'm not Kindle on my phone unless I'm really in a in a bind.
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Um but yeah, Kindle.
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I'm gonna do something really controversial.
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Oh no.
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I'm gonna change one of my books on the hop.
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On the hop?
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On the hop, yeah, because I put I put I got four and I was like, oh, the fifth one, the first pop first book popped into my head on for the fifth one.
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I was, oh yeah, I'll put that one in.
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But because I've just said Kindle or Book, I just thought, actually, I've just realized there is another book that I really enjoy reading.
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The reason why that reminded me is because I was gonna take that that particular book away on holiday with me, and that was the first book I ever took as a Kindle.
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Ah, nice.
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Yeah, so I I get the I get the allure of a Kindle.
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I think with a Kindle as well, I I'm one of these people, and a lot of people hate this about me, which is absolutely fine.
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I have a couple of books on the go at the same time.
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So I normally have a fiction, a non-fiction, and then an autobiography on the go.
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Yeah.
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Although I haven't got an autobiography on the go currently as it stands, but I do have a non-fiction one, um, which is normally some sort of psychology text of some sort.
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Um at the moment, I So you're talking like a not not a story-led book, but more of a informative book.
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Or life, like what what's the type of book like a self-help book, I guess.
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It's not a self-help book, but it's it's more to do with it's really hard to re I don't really want to reveal what it is.
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No, no, no.
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It's hard to say what it is.
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Is it psychology or philosophy?
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Psychology.
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Psychology.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Psychology based.
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But it's not uh it's not a self-help book.
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It's it's just related to a particular um section of psychology that I just really enjoy.
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Oh, okay.
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So I guess it's more it's more of a fact.
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Factual book.
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Factual work.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, do you want to do your one first or do you want me to do that?
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I can do mine first.
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Go on then, go for it.
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So um it would be weird for me not to talk about books and not mention Sarah J.
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Mass.
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So I thought I'd just get her out of the way first.
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Sarah J.
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Mass is a really famous author at the moment.
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She is hot tot at the moment.
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She's what?
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Hot tot.
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I don't know.
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Hot toddy.
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Yeah, she's hot on the blocks, man.
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I don't know.
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She's she's she's hot at the moment.
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See, hot hot tot to me.
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I thought you'd say hot toddy, which is whiskey and hot water.
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Yeah, no, no, she's she's just hot on the press at the moment.
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She's actually um the same publisher as JK Rowling, which is Bloomsbury.
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Bloomsbury.
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Bloomsbury, yeah.
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Um, so yeah.
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Um, and kind of my passion for reading most recently has come from her books.
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Um, so she has a really famous series called A Court of a Thorn and Roses.
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Yeah.
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Akatar.
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Um, then she has another series called Throne of Glass, and she has another series called Crescent City.
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Um, and I um I have read all of Akata as up to date as we are, what is it, May the 17th today?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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As of today, I am up to date on Akatar and uh Throne of Glass is finished, so we know that, but there's new Avatar books coming out.
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And then I'm halfway through the second book of Crescent City as it stands today.
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But the book I decided to choose amongst that universe and in that world was Queen of Shadows.
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Okay.
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It's the fourth book in the Throne of Glass series.
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Um I'm one of these weird people, and I think I'm in the minority here that I prefer Throne of Glass to Akatar.
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I think it's just the storyline is just so cool and something I haven't it's very it's not something that I I definitely have read something like it, and I almost picked that book as well, but I decided to pick this one instead.
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Um was the Nevernight series by Jay Christoph.
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Um and I didn't I didn't put that in here and it's just very similar.
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But basically, it follows a lady and she is she was kind of raised to be an assassin.
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Okay, but without giving anything away, she kind of returns to a kingdom ruled by kind of fear and corruption, and then she's sort of balances revenge, loyalty, and the weight of her destiny in all of that world.
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I'm trying not to give anything away.
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No, no, no, no.
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Um, and then she must decide kind of what sort of person she wants to be and and how she will rule.
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And as I said, this is the fourth book in the series of I think there's eight in total, and I just absolutely loved this book.
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Queen of Shadows is just by far the best one out of the whole block of eight, apart from maybe the last book because it brings everything all together.
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But that fourth book for me, I was just like, oh yes.
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It was just where the story just like really kicked off, and you were like, Oh my gosh, you know a lot about the world, and oh, it's just so good.
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Um, it was a very, very close pick between Queen of Shadows and then the second Avatar book as well, um, which I absolutely adored too.
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Um both of them have five stars on my Goodreads.
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Oh, excellent, excellent.
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Yeah, I don't give out many five stars, but all of these, all of these books that I chose are all five stars, four four or five stars.
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Um because uh Well where you where you've rated them on Goodreads.
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I've rated them on Goodreads, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I love Goodreads.
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Goodreads is a good place to log all your books that you've read so you can not only can you look back on it, but also you can uh you can get like suggested books.
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If you like this, you might like this, or other readers that liked this like this.
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So yeah, um I've currently got a really good reading streak at the moment.
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May Oh gosh, really good reading streak at the moment.
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Uh 142 days of reading in a row.
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23 of 23 weeks.
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But yeah, I think I don't know if I know how many books I've read this year.
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Um, just as just as an aside at this moment, I'm just gonna mention on the podcast that both me and Hannah are available to read audiobooks.
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Yeah, I I guess we are, amongst all of my other things that I'm doing.
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Yeah.
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We we both have accounts with ACR, is it?
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We do.
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I've not done anything with that.
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So we we we are both on there, so if uh if anyone does have any books they want to be turned into audiobooks, both me and Hannah do have experience.
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Yeah.
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Oh do you know the only thing I want wouldn't want to do is so I have said on there, because you can choose which genres that you that you would like to to do.
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Yeah.
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And I did put erotica on there because I thought, fair enough.
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But if they cast us both, I'm never doing one with you.
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No, no, no, no.
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That would be weird.
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Absolutely, absolutely not, no way.
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That would just be the weird, weirdest thing.
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I was like, I don't really mind reading erotica, but I was a bit like, uh There was a part of me that was like, do I click it?
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Don't I click it?
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And I thought, oh, I might get more auditions if I click it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I just clicked all of them.
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I didn't click all of them actually.
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I was a bit selective with what I chose.
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I thought, oh, I might get more auditions this way.
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I'll I'll read anything.
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It's hot off the press at the moment.
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I'll read it.
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Yeah.
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Um, but yeah, I chose Queen of Shadows, um, uh one of the Throne of Glass books because I just thought it was amazing.
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I I enjoyed the entire series actually of it, and it literally had me in a chokehold for months, the whole series, and now I'm on her last series.
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Yeah, come to an end soon.
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Oh dear.
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And I'll have to cry.
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Yeah.
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Well, my first book is is a book that I read at school.
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Oh.
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And Skellig.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's one of the it's one of those books where you they they make you read it as part of your curriculum, and I don't think I really fully, fully appreciated it at the time.
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Can I guess what it is?
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Go on.
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Can I have three guesses?
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Go on.
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Lord of the Flies.
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No.
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To Kill a Mockingbird.
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Nope.
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What'd you think?
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Oh they were like my f uh Ah, but I went remember this type of school that I went to.
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Oh yeah, you went to a posh posh boy school.
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Yeah.
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What did you read?
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Well, there are quite a few people.
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The tombs of the Bible.
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No, no.
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Oh god, no.
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Yeah, we we did.
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You did.
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I know you did.
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Yeah.
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Um 1984.
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Oh, George Orwell.
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George Orwell.
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So I read it.
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I read it when I was quite young.
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And I mean actually, I think that is on most most people would have read that at school.
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Um I didn't.
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You didn't?
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You didn't read it.
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But I read it at school and I didn't really fully appreciate it until I read it again after I left school.
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And for those of you who don't know, as Hannah said it's it's a book written by George Orwell, and it's probably the most defining dystopian novel.
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I was gonna say it's dystopian, isn't it?
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It's very dystopian of the handmaid's tale situation.
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Oh, 100%.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, you got like you you can throw 1984 in with a Hadmain's Tale, quite simple in this absolutely in the same genre.
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So what it's about, it's without giving too much away, is about a guy called Winston.
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Name's Winston Smith, and he is a he's a very kind of low-ranking worker in a place called Oceania.
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So the world is split up into three places Eurasia, East Asia, Oceania.
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And throughout the throughout the book and and the film, you can watch the film, the film is amazing with John Hurt in it as well, playing Winston, and uh Richard Burton is in it.
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Okay, and it it's very much about how government controls people, is is is what the book's about.
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Uh this it's a the society is ruled by the party and its symbolic leader, Big Brother.
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Yes, and that's where Big Brother comes from.
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Big Brother is always watching you through CCTV, Big Brother's always watching, and also where the television programme Big Brother came from.
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It's all well it's all um derived from 1984.
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So what he does had a massive cultural influence then.
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Yeah, even today.
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100% it had.
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Yeah.
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Now everybody, I mean, even in the morning in the book, everybody gets up and they has to do um exercises in front of this telly, and on this telly, people are watching you as much as you're watching the telly, and you've got this big image of big brother on the thing.
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It's it's it's a real story about paranoia.
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Um, yeah, it's what Winston does.
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I mean, it's very similar to his other writings.
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Like, I've read Animal Farm fairly recently.
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Yeah, like it's it's he's he's got a different kind of mind for that sort of thing, hasn't he?
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Yeah.
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His world building is insane.
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It is absolutely insane.
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And when you look at the major themes that are running through the book, because I won't say anything too more about it.
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It's about greed and power, isn't it?
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Well, it's about the you've got surveillance and privacy as fundamental uh manipulation of the truth and how history is constantly being rebuilt.
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Exactly what Animal Farm was about.
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Exactly.
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I mean, even like in the war, it's like Oceania says East Asia is our enemy, Eurasia was always our friend, and then that later on in the book it's like Eurasia is always our friend, and East Asia it switches round and it says, but they were always our friend, and it's constantly changing the truth you don't know where you are, which is look at the bloody world we live in now.
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Yeah, um language language is a control, this thing called new speak.
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So they they stopped the language and made people speak a certain way, yeah.
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Um, and of course, fear as a political tool, but they're also things like Big Brother into in today's society, the words double think, thought police, and even room 101 comes from 1984.
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So it's it's really, really good.
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It's I mean, the whole thing, I mean it is very bleak, it's claustrophobic and intense, and it's very psychology driven.
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Yeah, so it's not a book to read for happiness.
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But if you want to Animal Farm was not a happy read either.
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Although I enjoyed the audiobook because the person that was doing the audiobook um made all the animals speak in different voices, and it was really cool.
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Yeah, yeah.
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What was it?
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Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.
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Yeah.
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It's from Animal Farm.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, Orwell was I mean, I I laughingly said, you know, when Orwell wrote 1984, he wrote it as a warning, not as an instruction manual.
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Yeah.
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You know.
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Yeah.
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You know, but yeah.
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But yeah, 1984 was my first one.
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Your second one?
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My second one is a book called The Starless Sea.
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It's by uh a lady called Erin Morganst Morgenstern.
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She also wrote um another book called The Night Circus, which is, by the way, equally as good.
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The only reason I chose Starless Sea was because uh I just really resonated with the story a little better.
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So basically it takes it takes kind of place.
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This guy finds a a book about his own childhood in a random, like place.
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Yeah.
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He kind of like pulls it from like this underground labyrinth place.
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Okay.
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Yeah, and it and it kind of you just basically kind of learn about his life throughout, and there's like lots of stories and secrets and special keys, and it's all fantasy-based, and it's kind of like it was like you think the book is really normal, and then suddenly it kind of just like spins its on its on its head a little bit.
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It's like it's like finding out a book about your life, and then finding out kind of the end of that book before the end of your life has been taken place.
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It's a very, very cool book.
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I'm trying not to give anything away.
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No, no, it's very difficult, it's like with 1984.
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Don't want to give too much away.
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It it's it's such a lovely layered book, and special, special um mention to her other book, The Night Circus as well, which is um very similar.
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It's about a circus that has basically two performers who kind of are battling it out with each other a little bit in terms of Oh, a little bit like Swan um Black Swan.
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No, nothing like Black Swan.
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Um they they kind of like there's there's they're kind of battling out, but they're also kind of don't want to be in this competition.
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They like that it's very much like they don't really want to be a part of it, but they're unfortunately been made part of it in their childhood, and that's a really good book as well.
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Like Erin Erin Morgenstein, apparently it takes her quite a few years to write one book, and when you read it, you're like, I can understand why.
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This is full of twists and turns and how life thing throws at you.
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It's all fantasy.
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Yeah, essentially, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's um it's it's a really good book, and and even though on the face of what I'm saying sounds really complicated, she makes it very easy to follow through.
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Like it none, there was not a part of me that ever gone, well, I don't know what's going on here.
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It's just there's just a lot of lots of little things that crop up every now and then.
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It's written kind of almost in letter format as well, Starless C.
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There's all in these letters, whereas the night circus is written, some of it is written from your perspective going into the circus, which is so cool.
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It's like, oh, with your scarf wrapped around your neck and you can smell this the sweet popcorn in the air and things like that.
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So it kind of takes you through the circus, but then you also get the two people's stories throughout as well.
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And yeah, it's really, really I've never seen anything quite written that way before.
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Both uh what's it called when you're writing letters?
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Um correspondence.
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Yeah, okay, yeah.
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It's not that, but yeah.
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Um we'll call it that, yeah.
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It like, yeah, you see correspondence, but you also see that someone else's story kind of taking place as well.
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It's really cool.
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It's really cool.
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Ah, so one of my books that I've it's a bit like um a bit like uh Dracula was all letters, Frankenstein's all letters.
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Right, that's one you've chosen then.
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Um you can do that one next.
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Frankenstein was letters as well.
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Frankenstein was that I can't remember what it's called when something's written in letters.
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There's a special name for it.
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I know, I I don't know what it is, but it's very clever.
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You can go to your next one if you wish.
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So it's on a similar thing like that.
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George R.
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R.
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Martin does in the Song of Ice and Fire, because each chapter is done from the perspective of someone different.
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Ooh.
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A bit like that film where they all run and go.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the Song of Ice and Fire is difficult to read.
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I mean, I've obviously watched Game of Thrones, and but I was I started reading the first book, I gave up after a little while.
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I was like, it's too big.
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It's called an epistolary novel.
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And I did know that.
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I nearly said episode uh episodically is what I almost said.
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Epistolary.
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Yeah.
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So my next book is Dracula.
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No, it's not no, I'll it's on there, but we'll come to that in a little while.
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But I chose a book where I was just at work, and it was it was must have been about God, must have been about 15 years ago.
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Okay, long time ago.
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And we used to have a Water Stones, it's gone now, but we used to have a Waterstones, and I walked in there to have a little look to see a book to read, or to buy to buy another book.
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This was like before Kindles, this is how long ago this was.
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And I was like, this book says the book of the week, and it was just on there, and I thought, oh, I'll give it a go.
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Never heard of it before.
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Uh it's a book called Perfume.
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Right, and so I read it, and from the very first paragraph, I'm like, this is good, and it's brilliant.
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So, what perfume is about, it's it's written by a guy called Patrick Suskind, and it's uh very strange, it's very unsettling, and it blends horror, philosophy, and sensory storytelling.
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So, what it's about, if you haven't, it's about a call guy called Jean-Baptiste, and he's born in uh 18th century Paris, and everything stinks, obviously, Paris is but he's almost got like a supernatural sense of smell.
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Oh, right.
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Interesting.
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And he can identify thousands of scents in every single so he just needs to walk in a room, smell, and you you you wouldn't be able to smell anything, but he would be able to smell the wood and know what was in that wood, even the varnish and that so it's like he can literally smell to everything that is intricate now, but what he ends up becoming is a perfumer.
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Oh, yeah, makes sense, and he makes perfumes.
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Interesting.
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But what he ends up doing, he basically he becomes obsessed with capturing the essence of beauty through smell.
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Oh, okay.
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And and that obsession evolves into something very dark.
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Oh it is very, very good basically situation.
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Yeah, what he wants well, he wants to Is it a romance or dark romance?
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No.
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Oh no, he wants to create the ultimate fragrance.
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Right.
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Um but I'm not gonna say what that ultimate fragrance will do.
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Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah, okay.
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And but but the the themes within it, it's it's about obsession and genius, identity and humanity, the power of sensory experience, isolation as well, mixed with alienation.
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But what is really good about that book, or I say from the very first paragraph, the entire first page is him walking down a street, smelling one thing and explaining what he can smell.
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Oh damn.
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So the imagery within that was the way he.
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Describes the smells and the fragrances.
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It was like, wow, this is really good.
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Yeah.
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Really, really good.
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And yeah, as I said, why why it's famous is the book is known for making smell feel vivid through language, which is extremely difficult in literature.
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It really that's why perfume advocacy is so weird.
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Yeah.
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Because you can't sell a smell.
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Yeah.
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And it says here, it says, um, readers often remember the atmosphere more than the plot itself.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I bet they do.
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I bet they do.
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It's it's very good.
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It's it's very poetic, grotesque, and very unsettling.
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Damn.
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It's very good.
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Yes.
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It's just called.
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Well, this won't this might give it away a little bit because in the title, but it says Perfume.
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That's the number of the book.
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Perfume, the story of a murderer.
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Ah, I see.
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That's the name of the book.
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And it is brilliant.
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I've read it, I've read it a couple of times, but but it's right, purely just for the language and the way it's written.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Very, very good.
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Damn.
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Ready for my next one?
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Yeah, yeah, go for it.
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Go for it.
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Super.
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So this one is probably the one you have guessed.
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This is the young adult series by James Patterson.
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Yes.
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It's a fast-paced sci-fi adventure called Maximum Ride.
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Maximum Ride.
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It's basically about these genetically engineered children that can fly.
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And essentially, it's their coming of age, I guess, and them kind of uh trying to survive being genetically modified.
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Basically, what heroes should have been.
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Yeah, yeah, kinda, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It it was a massive this this series was definitely ignited my love for reading as a child.
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I don't think I was really that much into reading until I started reading Maximum Ride.
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You used to love them because your mum when your mum used to read James Patterson books on new fan days.
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Cover to cover.
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Like I've read I've read this series probably four or five times in entirety.
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And I just find it so there's a badass female character which you just didn't get at that time.
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Like, even I know the world is changing now, but back when I was reading the series, you didn't get many like female badass characters.
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Not really in in in media as much.
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So it was nice to read about her.
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Her name was Max, wasn't it?
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Her name was Max, yeah.
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Um Max Murried.
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And then she had Fang, Iggy, Gasman, Angel, Nudge.
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Nudge was my favourite character.
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Oh, remember Nudge Nudge was Nudge was so sassy.
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I loved her.
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She was my favourite character ever.
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Fang was kind of the love interest, and then there was Ari, which was like, uh no, that ruins the plot.
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Um then there's there's a guy called Ari as well, who's kind of uh a werewolf type situation, I guess.
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He's yeah, there's like some scientist man that they were like, oh, father, and then he kind of wasn't father.
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Stranger things, wasn't it?
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He is a little stranger things, yeah.
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It's a little stranger things, but yeah, it's an awesome series.
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Uh great for your young, young adult.
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Um it's good for the young.
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It is good for the young.
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It's it was a really good book, especially fem like young girls.
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I was gonna say that it's a really good book for young girls.
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But if you don't have young girls and you have young boys, he also has another series called Daniel X, which was also awesome, which the lead character was a male.
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Haven't they turned that into a series on Amazon?
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Have they?
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I feel like I need to see it if that's true.
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Um Daniel X.
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No, no, it's Alex something I'm thinking about.
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Oh, yeah, um, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I know exactly who you mean.
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Alex Ryder?
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That's it.
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Yeah.
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That's it.
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:21.119
No, Daniel X.
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:22.240
Did James Patterson write that?
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:22.400
No.
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:22.799
Didn't he?
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:24.079
No, different, different author.
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:24.319
Okay.
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:30.319
But yeah, this is this is ignited my it ignited my passion for reading and ignited my passion for writing as well.
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:45.359
Like I really, it I just wanted to be in this world, and I remember writing little subplot stories for this when I was little, like writing kind of like uh if it like the what if, if that didn't happen, then my story was like canon, if you know what I mean.
00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:49.599
Like, you know, what were kind of fanfiction, essentially fanfiction, that's exactly what it was.
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:56.240
I mean, it started in originally with Harry Potter, I say probably the the writing side of fanfiction, but Maxim Wright was one of the first books.
00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:00.079
I was like, you can have a female-led character and she can be badass?
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:00.640
What?
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:05.519
Um, so yeah, just an amazing character, uh, amazing series.
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:08.960
Uh, most of it, I think towards the end, was ghost written, though.
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:15.599
Um, you can kind of tell, but um the um the first uh original trilogy of that is uh amazing.
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:20.960
The first book's called The Angel Experiment, then it schools out, um, and then it's Saving World and other extreme sports.
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:25.119
And then Final Warning, which was the fourth book, was just some random like climate change book.
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:26.480
And then they get better again.
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.240
There's one called Max, one called Fang, one called Angel.
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:32.799
Um, yeah, it's just uh just an incredible series.
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:34.319
I remember you reading them.
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:41.119
I remember asking for the books for for like Christmas and birthdays, like if when it would come out again.
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:45.920
Or uh I remember having most of the paperbacks, and then unfortunately I had two hardbacks.
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.000
I was so annoyed because none of them all fit together.
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:51.759
I know that's a really silly thing, petty thing to get annoyed about, but yeah.
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.599
Um I was I wanted to read them so quickly that the paperbacks weren't available yet.
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:56.960
It was just the hardbacks.
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.680
Yeah, incredible series that I absolutely love.
00:26:59.920 --> 00:27:02.480
Ignited a passion in me that's never really left.
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:04.400
So thanks, James Patterson.
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:05.440
Uh appreciate you.
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:06.559
Appreciate you.
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:08.000
Appreciate you.
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:09.039
Appreciate you.
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:13.599
My next book, again, uh I've got I've just realised my books are all quite dark.
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:14.160
Yeah.
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:15.200
They are quite dark.
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.319
This one is probably Mine are like empowering female leg.
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:18.799
Yeah.
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:20.319
We've got we've got an episode.
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:27.839
I'm gonna I'm gonna cut this one down um quite considerably because the next episode that we're gonna record is on banned things.
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:28.319
Okay.
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.880
Oh well, it might have actually come out before this one.
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:31.920
I don't know which one.
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:35.759
No, no, no, we'll do we'll do banned things afterwards because otherwise it will be banned things.
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:37.599
Do you mean as in like things that have been banned before?
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:39.599
Things that have been banned and why they've been banned.
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:41.839
I thought you meant banned things like musical banned things.
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:43.519
No, no, no, why things have been banned.
00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:46.480
And this particular book was banned, and it was on the other list.
00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:47.599
Clockwork Orange?
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:48.000
Yes.
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:48.319
Yeah.
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:49.200
I love it.
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:50.160
You're so predictable, man.
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:51.920
Yeah, I know, but it's such a good book.
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:52.960
I've never read it.
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:54.160
It's such a good book.
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:58.079
I mean, it's about a guy called Alex who leads a group called the Drugs.
00:27:58.480 --> 00:27:58.880
Drogs.
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.559
The Drugs, and they go off and do ultraviolence.
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:07.440
And they I'll I'll say why it was banned in the other podcast episode.
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:13.599
But basically, he gets arrested after quite a brutal scene.
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:19.359
I mean, this scene is I'm not even gonna say what the scene is, it's brutal in both the book and also in the film.
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.799
And he gets arrested, and then they do these experiments on him.
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:24.079
The government does.
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:39.920
And it's yeah, I'm not gonna say too much about it, but what I like about it, what I like about the book, it does raise questions about free will versus forced morality and violence and youth culture, government overreach.
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:41.920
It asks that question as well.
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:48.480
The relationship between art and morality, but just human nature in general, and what makes people human.
00:28:48.640 --> 00:29:00.079
But the the the best thing, the thing that I really love about the book, it's written in a weird language, it's written in a mixture of almost like Russian and English.
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.079
Okay, and when you start reading it, you're like Rushlish.
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:06.000
Well, they call it NadSA.
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.079
They call it NadSA in the book.
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:16.000
Now you start reading it and you're like four pages in, and you probably have to read the first four pages again, but then suddenly it clicks.
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:18.720
And then you're like, I know what it's saying.
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:19.279
Yeah.
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:20.640
It's such a clever book.
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.720
It's like he's created his own language, it's written in the language, but he doesn't tell you how to read it.
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:24.960
Right.
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:26.480
But you work it out for yourself.
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:27.279
Oh damn.
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:31.359
And then when you suddenly start reading it, you're just reading it like you're just reading full-on English.
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:32.079
Damn.
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:38.880
It is so clever, but it does create this weird effect in that it distances you from the violence.
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:39.279
Right.
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.559
So you are looking at it through like a lens.
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:43.920
Through like a lens, yeah.
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:45.279
Yeah, it's it's weird.
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.880
But it also, the other thing it does, it pulls you into their mindset.
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:49.680
Damn.
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:51.039
And how they think.
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:52.400
It is quite funny.
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:54.480
Um in in in in places.
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:55.680
It's got humorous spots.
00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:01.839
It's got, yeah, I mean, when like when he's like it's little things like he calls eggs eggy weggies.
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.079
And I is yeah, is that and it's so it's like these little comic bits in there.
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:11.519
But the way that the eggy weggies is written helps you decipher how another word is written.
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:12.559
Right, right.
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.359
So that's how it's how it's really, really clever.
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.240
It is, it's very philosoph philosophical as well.
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:18.640
Right.
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:19.680
It is very philosophical.
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:22.079
But yeah, I naturally Clockwork Orange.
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:22.720
Brilliant book.
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:24.640
Guy called Anthony Burgess wrote it.
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:25.279
Nice.
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:26.319
Next, there you are.
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:26.960
Your next one.
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:31.200
Uh, my fourth one, um, would be no surprise to anyone that knows me.
00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:33.599
Um, I chose The Odyssey by Homer.
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:34.160
Really?
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:35.599
I went for a classic, yep.
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:36.079
Nice.
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.039
So one of the most influential epics ever written.
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:40.880
That's that's an undisputable fact.
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:41.119
Yeah.
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.000
The Odyssey follows the long and perilous journey of Decius.
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:46.559
This man is just trying to get back home from war.
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:47.039
I know.
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.039
And he just he's he's Fred.
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:52.160
Every bad thing just keeps happening to him.
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:55.440
And um, I was thinking the other day we should play Fred on the podcast.
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:57.039
Oh, 100% we should play Fred.
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:58.640
Yeah, we haven't done that in a long time.
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:06.000
Um, but anyway, um, yeah, so uh basically the the way we we get the term an odyssey.
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:12.799
So if we were if if we were saying, oh god, I've got a long journey head, oh it's like an odyssey, this is where that that phrase comes from.
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:14.240
Yeah, along the way he faces.
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:15.680
Can you just pass my phone?
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:17.839
I just want to it's in the lounge.
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:19.039
It's in the oh okay.
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:29.119
It's it's got monsters and gods and temptation, and it's got a bit of sex in it, and it's got a bit of this, and it's got a bit of that, it's got like everything in it.
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:30.720
It's just an epic novel.
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:35.119
Like there is there is nothing, there is nothing that's not in it, I feel.
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:38.319
It's just got a little bit of everything, twists and turns.
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:39.759
It is it is a journey.
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:46.319
It's it the whole book is from start to finish a journey of him just trying to get home to his wife, essentially.
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:51.200
Um, and uh, if you're really into Greek mythology, it's well up there.
00:31:51.279 --> 00:32:07.599
Um, you get to read about the Cyclopses and Circe and all of those amazing characters that a lot of this Game of Thrones stuff is is based off of, loads of other things, and um, yeah, the only thing is the film is not that great.
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:12.720
That is one thing I will say about about The Odyssey is that they they paint Hermes in a really camp.
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:14.000
Which version though?
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:14.960
Which version are you talking about?
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:15.680
I don't know.
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:18.799
So they've just they've just now making the a new film called The Odyssey.
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.039
They're just and it's got Matt Damon in it.
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:21.599
Oh, has it?
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:25.200
Yeah, so but it's done by I think it's done by Christopher Nolan, so it should be quite good.
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:31.920
But the reason why I asked for my phone is because um, and I couldn't remember the name of the film.
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:34.960
There is a film, and I've just googled it and just found out what it was.
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.880
There's a film with George Clooney in called Oh Brother Wear Out Though.
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:39.359
Oh, okay.
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:46.640
And it's set in the deep south of America about three men who escape from it got you know stripey train gang prison.
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:47.039
Okay.
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.559
And basically, it's George Clooney is that part.
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:57.359
And it's all based on the Odyssey, and all the things that happen in the Odyssey happen in that about the banshee and all of that.
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.720
But it's done in like an America, so the characters aren't.
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.319
It's called Oh Brother, where art though?
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:02.799
Oh, okay.
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:03.920
You probably like that then.
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:07.599
It's it's really funny, it's really good, and it is based on the Odyssey.
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:16.319
Yeah, I mean, yeah, this guy is literally just trying to get back from war and and just it just meets just just along this journey.
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:19.519
There isn't any part that you think this guy is might die.
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:19.839
Yeah.
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.240
Every single chapter, this he's gonna die.
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:22.640
Yeah.
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.319
No, he's still carrying on.
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:29.440
Like it's just he's he's he's resilient and he's I think it's a good like ode to life, isn't it?
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:33.519
Like we get thrown a lot of shit our way in our lives, and you still survive it.
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:35.119
I think this is what this is all about.
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:42.240
In O Brother World Art though, there's a there's a line that George Clooney says pretty much nearly every time he's one of those situations, because we're in a tight spot.
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:44.640
Yeah, it's brilliant.
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:46.880
That's how I feel reading the reading the Odyssey.
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:49.519
I was like, oh, how are they gonna get out of this one?
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:52.400
Yeah, it's it's a great book.
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:57.359
If you're if you're struggling on a journey yourself, it's a good book to read about struggles.
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:04.319
And I think I mean it brings in a lot of Greek mythology, but a lot of Greek mythology is based on psychology of the brain and how that works.
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:09.679
So it's it all all of all of the Greek gods are a part of part of the psyche, a part of the brain.
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:14.000
You've got love, you've got war, you've got um, can't think of any others right now.
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:15.760
Love and war, yin and yang.
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:28.960
Um, yeah, you've got the god of the earth, and you've got the god of fertility and recreation and forging and creating, and uh yeah, it's yeah, it's it's it's a very good book.
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.679
And uh it's it's it's it's a tough read, I would say.
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:33.519
I wouldn't bother with the Iliad.
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:36.480
The Iliad just feels like to me like a list of boats.
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:40.000
That's all I read that and I'm just like, this is a list of boats.
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:45.039
I just don't, I just I just don't know how to read the Iliad, but but the Odyssey is really good.
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:46.320
It is though, right?
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:51.039
I'm not like I'm not trying to be a uh I mean the Odyssey, when was that even written?
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:52.159
Do we even know?
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.199
While you're doing that, I'll go on to my next book while you're googling that.
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:57.360
But my name I'll I will go Dracula.
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:02.159
So Dracula was written by Dram uh Dram was written by Bram Stoker.
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:02.400
Go on.
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:03.679
Eighth century BC.
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:04.480
Eighth century BC.
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:05.760
It's old as fk.
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:06.400
Yeah.
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.000
That's another pound in the swear jar.
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:16.719
But yes, Dracula, written by Bramstoker.
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:23.599
It's it sorry it is arguably the most influent influential vampire Narvel ever written.
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.719
It is uh it's back guy called Jonathan Harker.
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:32.960
He goes to Transylvania to help some guy called Count Dracula purchase some property in England.
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:34.239
Oh in Whitby.
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.400
And he just wants to own some property.
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.000
He slowly realizes that Dracula is not human.
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:43.679
And then a group led by Professor Van Helsing.
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:44.960
Hello, hello.
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:46.159
Exactly.
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.400
And there's with Mina Harker, Lucy Westerner, and all of those.
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:51.920
I love Van Helsing.
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:56.719
But it's such a really good book because of what you said earlier.
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.440
It's written through diary entries and letters.
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:01.280
Do you remember what the word was?
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:03.679
Uh endoscopy.
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:06.320
Definitely not.
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:07.039
No, what was it?
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:08.400
There you go.
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:09.599
See, I knew it was close.
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:18.320
But it's it's got, you know, it's got themes of sexual repression and temptation, religion versus evil, science versus superstition, immortality, corruption.
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:30.400
Um, and it shaped the modern vampire myth of what we think of vampires with the capes, the fangs, the castles, hypnotism, fear of sunlight, garlic, crucifixes going across the threshold.
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:38.239
Basically, nearly every single vampire story owes a debt to Dracula in some way.
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:41.199
It's yeah, it's just very, very good.
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:53.199
And have you seen, but what the thing that gets me is when they do when you think of Dracula, you think this blood-sucking vampire medallion cape, all of that.
00:36:53.360 --> 00:37:00.639
But when you actually read the book, it's quite a tragic tale of uh why Count Dracula is like he is.
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:04.800
And there is a new film, a new Dracula film that's just come out, which is very good.
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:05.519
Oh, good.
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.559
Very good, and it's got Christoph Waltz playing Van Helsing.
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:10.800
Oh, and yeah, it's it's it's out.
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:12.480
I think it's called Dracula, a love story.
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:13.360
I think something like that.
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:14.480
But it's it's really good.
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:15.760
I remember it being a love story.
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:16.880
Really, really good.
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:17.119
Yeah.
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.079
Because he basically he sees I'm I'm not gonna say.
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:21.039
I'm not gonna say.
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:21.599
Okay.
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:22.000
Yeah.
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:23.039
My last book?
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:24.079
Your last book.
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:25.519
Go with your last book.
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.960
I I owe my book club for this book.
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:29.519
Okay.
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:36.159
It's not a book that I would read, as you've probably told I've been or uh as you've probably gathered from my four other selections.
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:52.800
I'm a I'm a fantasy reader, I love fantasy and romanticity, but um this one was um more of a modern tale uh about a lady who essentially her husband died, and it's basically her getting over her grief of that.
00:37:52.960 --> 00:38:01.679
Um so her husband died like two years prior to when the book is set, and it's about her like bringing joy into her life and her daughter's life again after his death.
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:02.000
Yeah.
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:05.519
It was called The Reason, it's by uh Catherine Bonetto.
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.480
And just one Bernetto.
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:16.639
Uh yeah, it's it's one of those books that I read, and I was like, oh, what a lovely book.
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:21.199
It was just a feel-good book, it made me cry, it made me laugh out loud.
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:26.800
There is this particular scene where they have to get this pet bird from a from a pet store.
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It's so, so funny.
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And as I said, it made me cry.
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:40.559
And the kind of the choices that she makes to make her daughter happy, given that she like her daughter's being bullied as well, and she kind of lost her dad two years ago.
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:43.119
Like, her daughter's not having a very good time at school.
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:55.199
She's kind of got this best friend that she's being sort of pulled apart from because of of this school that she's going to, and and her the grandparents play a massive role in the in the whole story as well, and their support.
00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:05.840
They live on a farm and they've got all these bloody animals, and and they keep bringing these animals in, and it's just it's just really it just feels like I'm reading a family's life, like someone's chaotic family's life.
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:06.480
Yeah.
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And it was just so heartwarming, and and it just made me feel everything like this.
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:14.559
It just felt like I was reading life.
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:20.000
So very similar to the Odyssey, I guess, but just not in a fantasy setting, in a real life world setting.
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.639
Um, it was a great book, really lovely well written.
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.320
It didn't take me very long to get through.
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:26.800
Um, the book club said that they preferred the audiobook.
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:36.800
I personally preferred um reading it, but I had a really good time reading that book, and I'm um it was Vic's suggestion as well of the book club.
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:38.960
So um, so yeah, uh shout out to Vic.
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:40.639
She's had a lot of shout-outs on this podcast.
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:46.079
But um, yeah, so it's The Reason by Catherine Benetto, and it was uh yeah, it was great.
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:47.119
I've really enjoyed it.
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:48.239
I've really, really enjoyed it.
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:51.360
Just such a lovely, feel-good book that I'll probably pick up and read again.
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:53.039
Yeah, that's that's my last book.
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:53.679
That's the last book.
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:54.159
Excellent.
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:56.880
Well, I was gonna choose The Hobbit as my last book.
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:57.840
Ugh, predictable.
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:02.639
I know, but I thought, but as while I was in here and talked about the Kinla, I'm not gonna go The Hobbit, and I'm gonna do this one off the top of my head.
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:03.280
Come on.
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:04.880
American Psycho.
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.760
Oh Brett Ellis Eston.
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:08.239
Yes.
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:09.199
What a book.
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:10.079
What a film.
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:10.880
What a film.
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:12.719
And you yes, you've now seen the film, haven't you?
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:13.840
I have indeed, yeah.
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:14.480
Yeah.
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:21.679
You've I mean, I I was then gonna ask you what you think about the ending, as in what do you think was going on?
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.880
I haven't got the flying foggiest to what the heck's going on.
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:27.360
I don't know if that happened or didn't happen.
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:27.920
That's it.
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:29.599
And and it and it or didn't it?
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:30.960
And it pisses me off that I don't know.
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:31.360
Yeah.
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:32.320
Was it all in his head?
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:33.440
Yeah, I have no idea.
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:34.000
I hope so.
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:34.320
Yeah.
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:34.880
I hope so.
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:41.679
But the whole idea that when you look at the the the point of that book is that there's no identity.
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:42.239
No.
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:47.679
The he was, you know, was he a psycho running around New York killing people?
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:52.800
And, you know, when people when the people went missing who were in the same but they didn't know who was who.
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:53.039
No.
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:54.960
Because they're all the same, they're just carbon copies.
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:56.320
Carbon copies, yeah.
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:58.159
It's like the corporate world in a book.
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:00.719
Oh, it really slags off the corporate world.
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:01.360
It really does.
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:02.000
And it's so good.
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:06.480
I mean, when they're all arguing, there's that section where they're arguing about their business cards.
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:06.880
Yeah.
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:15.440
You know, and the fact that one's the colour bone white and you know, because the sign is slightly raised and the type of paper that they use, because it's one-upmanship.
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:15.679
Yeah.
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:20.880
I mean, it's it's for those of you who don't know, it's it's um it's about the world of say yuppies.
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.679
Yeah, yeah, it's about the Wharf of Wall Street.
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:28.800
Yeah, that and how they kind of scum of the yeah, scum of the corporate world, I would say, if I can say that.
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:35.760
And how they kind of all interact with each other and how they try and get one up on each other, but no one actually knows what they really do for a job.
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:36.400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.800
It's just like playing the stock market and things like that.
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:44.960
It's so vague that you're like, they need to understand what they do for a job.
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:46.239
No, because that's the point.
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.239
Yeah, yeah, it's just vague nonsense.
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:56.800
And it's such a good book, but that is, I mean, that's a bit of a spoiler, but at the end of the book, and even at the end of the film, you're like, was it in his head?
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:58.960
Did he really kill those people?
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:00.639
Was he insane?
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:04.320
Or a desk full of paper that means nothing at all.
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:06.320
That's like, that's exactly what that film is.
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:06.800
Yeah.
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:07.360
Yeah.
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:07.920
Yeah.
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:08.400
Yeah.
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:09.280
It's mad.
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:10.000
It is.
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:16.320
The book is I mean, I haven't read the book, I'm only going by the film, but yeah, I I read the book and then I read it again.
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.360
Because I wanted to see if I'd missed something in the book.
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:20.320
Did he do it?
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.960
To see if there was some indication in there to see whether or not he actually did it or not.
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:30.000
It's when I think in the film for me, it's when they go back in the apartment and then it's like fine.
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:31.760
Like there's no one in the cupboard or anything.
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:33.679
Like, there's oh I'm giving away spoilers, aren't they?
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:38.239
But like there's like Yeah, but remember, he wears the raincoat and he does the puts the plastic down.
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:39.039
Yeah.
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:42.320
But then there's no but they but he hit her in the cupboard at the end.
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:42.639
Yeah.
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.280
And then when she opened the cupboard, it was like bare, and it was like, oh.
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:46.880
Yeah, because even he looked confused.
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:47.840
Yeah.
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:48.159
Yeah.
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:49.199
Weird, man.
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.559
Yeah, it's such a good It's either that or it's fantasy.
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:56.000
Like he that's his fantasy, that's what he wants to do, but doesn't act upon it.
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:56.320
Yeah.
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:57.199
That was my guess.
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.960
Yeah, because they were all looking for Jared Leto's character in the film.
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:01.360
Yeah.
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:03.440
I can't remember his name, but because he goes missing.
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:07.119
But then he but then his name isn't his name because it turns up as someone else.
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:08.000
Yeah, exactly.
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:09.920
Because again, he's a carbon copy of so-and-so.
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:10.960
Yeah, that's what I mean.
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:14.320
I it's it's it's it's almost like we saw what he wanted to do.
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:18.480
Like that was his fantasy of what he thought his life could be.
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:20.480
I know we're mixing between the film and the book now.
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:21.599
Yeah, sorry, yeah, yeah.
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:25.119
Uh, but um Christian Bale played that part so.
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:27.199
Oh, yeah, yeah, it was so good.
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:27.920
So well.
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.320
If you don't want to read the book, I highly recommend the film.
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:31.760
It was genuinely very, very good.
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.639
Yeah, because I took because you I think you messaged me, didn't you?
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:36.239
You said I finally watched America's life.
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:37.599
Yeah, I finally got round to it.
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:39.039
Um yeah, it was mad.
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:39.840
Yeah, it was mad.
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.400
But yeah, that was the first book I ever read on a Kindle.
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:43.840
Oh, well, there you go.
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:44.960
I can't remember where we went.
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:48.639
Me and your mum went on holiday somewhere together, and that was the first time I took a New Jersey?
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:51.119
No, it wasn't New Jersey, it was somewhere warm.
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.960
Well, New Jersey's warm, but where's the place where you went to the volcano?
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:55.679
Tenerife.
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:56.320
Tenerife.
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:56.880
Tenerife.
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:57.280
It wasn't there.
00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:58.320
Oh before then.
00:43:58.480 --> 00:43:59.760
Could have been Greece, actually, could have been when we went.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.559
To crease.
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:00.960
Really?
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:01.840
Yeah, or Crete.
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:02.400
Could have been great.
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:03.360
When I was 13.
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:03.840
Yeah.
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:04.400
Damn.
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:04.639
Okay.
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:05.039
Yeah.
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:06.320
Could have been could have been crate.
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:07.039
But there you go.
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:07.519
Okay.
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:11.440
Well, we hope you enjoyed this episode of us gushing about our favourite books.
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:16.159
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00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:18.159
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00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:20.079
Shall we just create an outro, Hannah?
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:21.119
We do have an outro.
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:24.960
I know, but like an outro before the outro.
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:26.239
I think people like it.
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:28.320
They like to see me fumble.
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:29.679
Do you know what I don't like?
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:30.559
What's that?
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:38.800
Um, so if you've um liked listening to our um podcast, because I have to cut it all out.
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:41.599
Cue the outro.
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