Force 10 from Navarone

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They were a strike force of different, daring, dangerous men who had to work together, or die.
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From Alistair MacLean's monumental best-seller, Force 10 from Navarone.
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They were outnumbered 10,000 to 1. That made the odds just about even.
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Robert Shaw, Harrison Ford, Barbara Bach, Edward Fox, Franco Nero, Carl Weathers, Richard
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“Jaws" Kiel, Force 10 from Navarone.
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Rated PG, parental guidance suggested.
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We're not talking about actors. We mean a real monster. I brought her back.
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She'll live and I'll get her another body.
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I know they're gonna catch me, but don't let anyone see me like that please, Doctor, help me!
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Biologically speaking, it's a primary important that man should want to mate.
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Hey, that's right!
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You don't get all your kicks from surfing, do you?
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We want to be free to ride our machines without being hassled by the man.
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And we want to get loaded.
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You think you're gonna make a slave of the world?
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I’ll see you in Hell first!
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The American International Podcast.
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Are you ready?
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Hello, I'm Cheryl Lightfoot.
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And I'm Jeff Markin.
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And this is the American International Podcast.
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Our mission this week is the movie Force 10 from Navarone.
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From 1978.
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Force 10 from Navarone. was directed by Guy Hamilton from a screenplay by Robin Chapman
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and an uncredited George MacDonald Fraser, which is self-came from a story by Carl Foreman.
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And this is all based on the novel Force 10 from Navarone by Alistair MacLean.
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And it was produced by Oliver A. Unger for Navarone Productions.
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Force 10 from Navarone stars Robert Shaw as Major Keith Mallory.
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Harrison Ford as Lieutenant Colonel Mike Barnsby.
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Edward Fox as Staff Sergeant John Miller.
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Barbara Bach as Maritza Petrović.
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Franco Nero as Captain Lescovar / Colonel Von Ingolsleben, a German intelligence officer.
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Carl Weathers as Sergeant Olen Weaver, Richard Kiel as Captain Dražak, Alan Badel as Major Petrović.
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Also appearing are Michael Byrne as Major Schroeder, Philip Latham as Commander Jensen,
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Angus MacInnes as Lieutenant Doug Reynolds, Michael Sheard as Sergeant Bauer,
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Petar Buntic as Marko, Paul Humpoletz as Sergeant Bismark
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and Ramiz Pasic as Mallory's Boy.
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Force 10 from Navrone. opens with snippets from the movie The Guns of Navarone.
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which contains a couple of the same characters, although this movie is not a straight sequel of The Guns of Navarone.
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And to sum it up, deep in the heart of the Aegean Sea, there's an island, its name Navarone.
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In 1943, the Germans controlled the island, using it to fire their massive guns on Allied Forces ships.
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A group of Brits infiltrated the island and were able to blow up the Germans' artillery, destroying their strategic advantage.
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The leaders of this crew were named Miller and Mallory, and they were then rescued by the British Navy,
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and now onto their new adventure.
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Then the credits start on the AIP version which we watched.
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These credits are shown over various photos of war times.
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In the international version, it's just over-regionary background, and the main credit difference is that the domestic version begins with the words Samuelsie-Arkhoff presents.
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So once the credit sequence is done, we find ourselves somewhere in England, 1943, according to the next title card.
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You see Major Keith Mallory. He's walking with a cane, and he's being escorted to see Commander Jensen.
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On the way, he bumps into his old colleague, John Miller, who has also been summoned to this meeting.
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Miller tells Mallory that he's been working on a new type of detonator, since he's been retired from the Army.
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In Commander Jensen's office, Jensen says that he needs Mallory and Miller for something special.
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He shows them a picture and asks them to identify one of the men pictured.
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This is a traitor who betrayed them at Navarone, this being the first movie. His name is Nikolai, and they assumed he had been shot, but that turns out to not be the case.
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Nikolai escaped. Not only that, he was a German agent who's now operating in Yugoslavia, working with the pro-allied partisans, posing as a man called Captain Leskovart.
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Because Mallory and Miller are the only ones who would be able to positively identify him, they are the ones that will be assigned to assassinate him.
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Whether they want to or not.
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Miller objects, he's a civilian now, but Jensen informs him not anymore. He's back with a promotion, he is now staff sergeant.
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Not only that, Mallory and Miller are going to be tagging along with something called Force 10, and Allied mission going to Yugoslavia as well.
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Force 10's mission is on a need to know basis, and Jensen says that Mallory and Miller don't need to know that.
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Lieutenant Colonel Barnsby Edders, he is the leader of Force 10, and Jensen asks him if Force 10 is ready.
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Barnsby looks kind of sideways at the others in the room, and has reluctant to answer, but Jensen ensures him he's free to speak freely, as these men will be tagging along on the mission.
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And Barnsby protests, with all due respect, but if this mission will be a difficult one, and his men are all young and in shape, Jensen ensures him that these men are capable and experienced.
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Jensen tells them that they're going to leave for Italy at 2300 hours, and from there they're going to fly to Yugoslavia.
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Barnsby is to deliver Miller and Mallory to the partisans. Mallory promises not to make a nuisance of himself.
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And now we're on the way. Mallory and Miller are writing in the back of a truck with all of Barnsby's crew members looking out the window.
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They see the terminally airbase. They're now in Italy, but they pass it. Miller turns to Mallory and says, I thought we were going to an airfield, but Barnsby and the truck keep going.
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Finally, they park nearer of chain link fence, and Force 10 gets to work cutting the chain link fence as Barnsby explains to Mallory Miller that the last three missions to Yugoslavia were blown right there in Italy.
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So this time when they fly out, they're not advertising it. But just then a jeep full of military police tries by and they see these intruders.
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They jump out of the car and try to take control of the situation. When soldiers left with a jeep to guard their prisoner, Carl Weathers.
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The large crew of MPs try to round up Barnsby's men, but they fight back. As does the MPs prisoner. He introduces himself to Miller and Mallory who are not fighting. As Sergeant Weaver, US Army Medical Corps.
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Eventually Barnsby's men prevail and are ready for takeoff. They did lose one man, Nolan, but they have to get going anyways.
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As the plane fires up, the door opens and Weaver bursts in, slamming the planes door behind him. He says he saved them all back there, so what's the big idea leaving without him?
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I guess since they're a man short, they're willing to let him stay.
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The men discussing Weaver sarcastically say that he'll blend right in in Yugoslavia and ask him if he knows how to work a parachute. Weaver says he'll learn on the way down. Miller opens his case of explosive wonders.
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This causes a little concern since no one really knows why he's there with them, but Miller tells them all not to worry. He's been using this stuff ever since he blew up the nursery with his first chemistry set, oral nanny.
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So they fly on, but it's not long before they encounter squadron of German planes, which fire upon them inside the plane. A lot of the men are getting hit. And now the engines are in flames. Barnsby is piloting, so he doesn't have any idea what's going on in the back of the plane.
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These planes being not very well reinforced, almost all of the men are dead. Of the men in the back, the only ones still alive are Miller and Mallory, Sergeant Weaver and Lieutenant Reynolds.
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They shoot up and prepare to jump out of the plane. That's exactly what I wrote to. They see HUT up and jump out of the plane. Barnsby makes a quick check of his men to see if any are still alive.
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They're not. He jumps out as well. Miller is the last to go. And just before he jumps out, he drops a small explosive device on the floor of the plane. It rolls around for a little bit and then detonates, taking the rest of the plane with it.
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German soldiers are watching the battle from the ground. They move out to capture any survivors. Now on the ground, Barnsby Reynolds and Mallory reunite quickly. They start looking for the others and they find Miller with his parachute hanging from a tree.
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But one of the German soldiers is scouting nearby so they can't do anything about it. Reynolds raises his gun, but Barnsby hasn't lower it. The noise would attract attention. They don't want.
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The German who's nearby where Miller is hanging sees the case and then finally looks up. He's about to shoot Miller and the other three watching hold their fire for some reason. At the last second, we see a knife lodged in the back of that soldier and Weaver is there. He grabs the knife and continues to stab that German soldier. Barnsby wonders how he got there. He had no idea Weaver was even on the plane.
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Mallory tells him that he believes that this man invited himself that Malay now over Reynolds asked Weaver where he learned to handle a knife like that to which Weaver replies Harvard man. Barnsby tells him he's not to refer to him as man, but he will address him as Sir.
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Barnsby orders the men to move on for their own safety. A short while later, Barnsby stops to check his compass. Reynolds asks where they are. Barnsby says if they keep going east, they'll get where they're going. He tells Miller and Mallory to stop slowing them down.
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Continuing on foot, it's not long before they're spotted by two men with bandages over their faces. The bandaged men jump out from their hiding places along with a large group of other men, all armed. Barnsby tells us men to be cool.
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One of the group comes forward to meet the soldiers. This is Dražik. He explains that these men were bandages because their faces were introduced to German flame throwers.
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Blamenwaffers. And then he goes on to introduce Barista. Marista is the only woman among these men. He next goes over to greet Weaver. Hello, Blacky, he says. Dražik tries to wipe the color off Weaver's face. When that doesn't work, he pulls on a knife and presses it to Weaver's face.
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It's going to carve it off. Weaver's had enough. He kicks Dražik in the shin and simultaneously relieves him of his knife. Dražik goes down. Barnsby tells Weaver to back down. And Marisa says something to Dražik in Sirbocoration.
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No subtitles for us. Dražik gets up and laughs heartily. I play big joke, but joke on me. Weaver gives him his knife, candle first. And everyone's friends now.
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So now Barnesby, Mallory, Miller Reynolds and Weaver are being escorted to the partisan camp. On the way to the camp, Weaver objects to the way he was treated. And Barnesby tells them to chill out.
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Mallory gives Barnesby his condolences on losing all but two of his men if you can't Weaver. Mallory says his mission is still on, but it's not going to be very easy for Barnesby to do his, whatever it is.
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Barnesby Mallory, Miller Reynolds and Weaver are being escorted to the partisan camp led by Dražik and Marisa.
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The townspeak all seemed delighted to see the rival of the allied forces. They're escorted into an office where they come face to face with several German soldiers. Oh no.
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Dražik pins a badge to his hat and laughs, we're Chedniks not stinking partisans. We were the Germans. They're our friends.
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In onslaid, all the Chedniks are laughing and turning their hats around to reveal their true loyalties.
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Dražik is pushing the men around roughly declaring that the Germans are their real BFFs. Major Schroeder introduces himself to the men. Mallory seems quite chuffed to meet him.
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And Major Schroeder is surprised to be greeted so chumly. Mallory says that they're not soldiers, they're deserters. Miller, who has no poker face, gives Mallory the "what face?"
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Mallory goes on to explain that they are being held in Tirmali. They escaped, stole a plane, flew out of there and were shot down.
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But we're fortunate enough to have been brought here. The Major decides to humor them and asks why they deserted. Mallory makes up a story about how they stole a suitcase full of penicillin and planned to sell it on the black market.
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He asked Major Schroeder if he's ever heard of penicillin, but he hasn't. Mallory explains that it stops wounds getting infected, as well as some of your nasty or social diseases.
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And their supply could be worth half a million dollars on the black market. And then they explain Weaver's presence by saying that he's their provider.
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The Major is amused, but not convinced. He'd like to see this penicillin. Mallory tells Miller to go ahead and open the case, but Miller refuses, saying there's half a million pounds of that stuff and it's got to be opened under laboratory conditions.
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Mallory says that the Major isn't interested in the penicillin, and he just wants to know if they're telling the truth, but Miller refuses to open the case.
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Barnsby tells the Major that every word of the story is true, and he can verify it with his sources in Italy, and Major Schroeder says he plans to do just that.
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The next time we see them, they're being shoved into a tiny cramped prison cell by a growling drawjock.
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Barnsby says that was a cute story back there, but what happens when they open that suitcase? Mallory's supposed to be all be shot.
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Major Schroeder returns to his quarters, but he's not alone there. Maritza is taking a bath in the Major's bath tub. Major Schroeder asks her opinion. She says they're lying, kill them.
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Schroeder fantasizes about what the two of them could do with all that money, and she climbs on to his lap naked. She tells them once again they're lying, kill them. And then they kiss.
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The next morning our heroes are escorted from their cell to be executed.
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They all march to a nice place for a firing squad, and Mallory quips at least they had a good night's sleep.
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They're lined up for this execution, but Schroeder comes out and says that their intelligence has verified their story.
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He takes Barnsby and Mallory back to his office.
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Barnsby and Mallory leave the others standing in front of that firing squad.
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Inside the office, Major Schroeder explains that he did open the case only to find this, and then he reveals that it's full of firewood.
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"Faward." Major Schroeder and Ritza look pretty angry.
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Mallory explains they buried and hid the penicillin before the Chetniks picked them up.
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It was the only thing he had to bargain with after all, but Schroeder is going to give them a chance to prove themselves by digging up this penicillin.
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Mallory says that they do that. He'd shoot them and bury them in the same hole, and Schroeder assures them that he will surely shoot them if they don't.
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Regardless, the choice is theirs. So Mallory and Barnsby are being escorted by Maritza and three German soldiers to wherever they allegedly buried the penicillin.
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With a shovel and a pick, Mallory, Miller and their escorts hike through the Alps, pretending to be looking for the spot where they buried the penicillin.
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Mallory and Barnsby are themselves puzzled as to how the firewood got into the suitcase.
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They're not sure exactly what to do, but they're unlikely to find any penicillin out here.
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Finally, Maritza's had enough. She tells Barnsby and Mallory to start digging in five minutes.
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Either they can dig for the penicillin or they can dig their own graves.
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They walk a little further than decide that this is the place. Mallory points out a pile of rocks and claims it's their marker.
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Barnsby and Mallory begin moving the rocks, quietly discussing that if they can get the soldiers closer, they can use the spades on them.
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They start to dig, after a moment, they call out, "Here it is, come look!"
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The soldiers approach, and as Barnsby and Mallory start to swing their spades, machine gun fire rings out and Barnsby and Mallory hit the ground.
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Maritza calls out, "You can get up now, they're dead."
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Mallory and Barnsby are very surprised.
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As she's disarming the dead soldiers, she explains that she's the one that replaced their explosives with firewood.
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Maritza says they can go, but first they have to hit her to make their escape seem plausible.
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Barnsby punches her lightly and then Mallory finishes the job by clocking her and sending her to the ground.
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"Stapping for a brief rest, Barnsby asks what about Reynolds and Miller? What about them?" says Mallory.
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They travel on and soon realize they're being followed. It's the two banished Chetniks.
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Mallory and Barnsby disappear over a hill and a shot rings out.
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The Chetniks run up the hill to see Mallory lying down on the ground.
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One of the Chetniks goes to investigate while the other covers him from the top of the hill.
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As the Chetnik approaches Mallory, Barnsby jumps out from behind a rock and shoots the Chetnik dead.
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Then the other, before he realizes what is happening.
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Mallory pushes the dead man off him and sitting up says, "Next time you can be the corpse."
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So they're walking on again and then they hear the pounding of hooves.
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There's an army coming on the horses, but this time it's the partisans. Finally, with them is Captain Luskovar.
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He orders his men to tie Mallory and Barnsby up.
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He puts them on horseback and everyone heads towards the partisan base.
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He tells them they've just made an appointment with Major Petrovich.
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As they're writing, Mallory tells Barnsby that the leader of this group is Nikolai Luskovar, the man he's been sent to kill.
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Later they all stop at his spot overlooking the river and the bridge that crosses it.
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Of the bridge, Barnsby says, "If this is the one he's thinking of, then he knows where they are."
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Barnsby and Mallory get their heads back as partisans frogmarsh them to the mouth of the cave
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that is the partisans HQ office.
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Otherwise, partisans are practicing with munitions and artillery. Very loud in the distance.
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The Abrahafore Major Petrovich, who immediately begins questioning them.
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If they escape from the Germans as they say, why weren't they being followed by Germans?
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They had been tracking them for five miles before they were picked up.
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Barnsby says, "Then you should have seen us take care of those two Chetniks following us."
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Petrovich says, "Dem, they were partisans who had infiltrated the Chetnik camp
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working as agents on the inside. Emphasis on Whir."
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Now that they're double agents are dead, they have no way to communicate with their agent
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who's still remaining in the camp.
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Barnsby says he's sorry, but that doesn't change the fact that they are all his soldiers
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and shouldn't be treated this way.
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He tells Petrovich they're from Force X and he should have gotten a memo about them.
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They're supposed to deliver them to Marshal Tito's office.
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Petrovich had gotten this memo and he knows that Mallory is on a different mission.
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He asked Mallory just what that is, but Mallory says he would prefer to tell him in private and not in mixed company.
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Seeing that Nikolai, the man he was sent to kill is standing over Petrovich's shoulder.
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Petrovich tells him there are no secrets in the People's Army and he should speak freely.
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So he does. Mallory says that he was sent to eliminate an agent named Nikolai going by the name of Leskovar.
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Upon hearing this news, Petrovich laughs.
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He tells Mallory that there was an agent called Nikolai, who also used the name Leskovar,
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and he was taken care of months ago and the British should have received a memo on that.
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Lots of memos going around.
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Later, Barnes being Mallory are outside. Barnes be shaving and Leskovar comes up.
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He says, "Hey, no hard feelings about wanting to kill me. We all get badly breathed sometimes."
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Barnes be mumbles that he wishes he had been briefed about those two non-chatniks.
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Mallory asks if their agent in the camp is Maritza and Leskovar confirms that it is and informs them that she's Petrovich's daughter.
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Leskovar then shows them the bridge.
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The Germans are due to cross it soon and that can't happen.
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Barnes be asked why they haven't blown it up themselves.
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And Leskovar says they've tried it, but they have lost good men in the process.
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Barnes be says there's not a bridge that can't be blown. That's what force ten is here to do.
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Now we're back at the partisan HQ, deep in the heart of that cave.
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Barnes be talking to Petrovich. He asked for men to help him blow up the bridge, but Petrovich says he's just going to blow twenty men to hell for nothing.
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Mallory says they don't need twenty men. Miller will suffice.
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And goes on to explain that Miller is the best demolitions expert in all of Britain and he happens to be in town, though he's a prisoner in the Chetnik camp.
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Petrovich's interest had been peaked, but he deflated said this last bit of news.
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Then he's already dead, he says. Not necessarily says Barnes be.
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Mallory asks for just two men so they can go find out.
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We head back to the Chetnik camp inside a prison block. Miller, Weaver and Reynolds are indeed still alive.
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Major Schroeder comes into the cell where they're shackled against the wall.
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He brings with them three Nazi interrogators, one of the Nazis gripes that they were told there were five prisoners.
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Major Schroeder tells the Nazis that two escaped or tried to and were shot in the process.
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This is news to Miller, Reynolds and Weaver who hadn't heard anything of this.
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At the gate to the Chetnik camp, two bandage Chetniks present themselves with their two prisoners, Mallory and Barnes be.
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They bring their prisoners into Major Schroeder's office, but he's not there.
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There's another officer fussily berating the Chetniks for being where they ought not to be.
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But as he's fudzing with his milk and a saucepan and complaining that they made him burn the milk, Mallory calmly apologizes and then says, let it burn.
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The officer looks up to see the two masked Chetniks and Mallory and Barnes be all have guns trained on him.
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Next we see the officers being marched out by Mallory and Barnes be and the two bandaged men.
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As they walk across the camp, Maritz assies them out the window and recognizing Mallory and Barnes be realizes that her cover has been blown.
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When they reached the detention area, the officer announces he has prisoners for Major Schroeder.
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They're brought into the cell where Miller Reynolds and Weaver are being held. Weaver takes a punch to the gut for not answering questions to the satisfaction of the interrogators.
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Their arrival is announced and one of the interrogators says, I thought you said these men had been shot.
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Barnes being Mallory exposed their guns and one of the bandaged men rips off his mask. It's less covar.
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We see Maritz in her quarters pulling something out of the ceiling where she had concealed it.
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As she was the one who swapped out the contents of the case with Firewood, we now know what happened to Miller's equipment.
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Then we see Drasak and several other Chetnecks are returning to the camp on horseback.
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In the prison, all the Nazis have been dressed up by the now free Miller, Weaver and Reynolds.
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All the men are ready to leave, but they left one German unbound, the officer with the warm milk fetish.
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For some reason, Mallory placed one of the Nazis guns in reach of this officer.
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He aims at the Navarone crew. He's not very assured as he says, this is not correct.
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He glances at an alarm on the wall. Reynolds jumps the officer. They struggle with the gun between them. The gun goes off. Reynolds has been hit.
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Before this officer can make any more trouble, Barnes be shoot to him.
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One of the shackled Germans still has a gun on him, and less of our blasts all three change Germans with machine gunfire.
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The gunfire checks more German guards. The remains of force 10 stand in wait. As the Germans approach, force 10 shoots them all down.
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Except for one who shoots down the hallway.
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Barnes be Miller and the rest slowly leave the cell. With Major Schroeder bound and gagged, he's their prisoner.
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As they turn a corner, the remaining guard takes a shot, but he hits Schroeder, not any of the Navarone men.
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He's soon killed by Leskabar. Mallory shows Barnes be that Schroeder's dead.
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All those targets and he only managed to shoot his own superior.
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Is that what he says?
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No, that's what I said.
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Trashek has gone to Maritzes and is beating her up. Purson which you are always so kind to the men with burns. They have no burns.
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Somehow, Jorzek knows that the three prisoners have escaped after killing the Germans, although I don't know how you would know that.
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A little boy comes in to report something to Jorzek, but he only speaks several Croatian. And again, there's no subtitles. So we have no idea what was said.
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He's seen as we telling him of the impragous jailbreak, but he already knows about it.
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Barnes be Mallory, Miller and Weaver and their partisan companion and other men under bandages who will be revealed as Marco.
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Drag the dead major Schroeder out to a Jeep and prop him up in a seat as Trashek and the boy approach and enter the prison.
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Barnes be then gets into a supply truck given by Mallory. Miller and Weaver presumably are in the back of that truck.
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They make a pit stop to collect the now-cupramized Maritza. They find a unconscious on the bed so they gather her up inside a blanket and carry her out to the truck.
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Both vehicles head towards the gate. Let's give our striving the Jeep with the dead major sitting in the back seat.
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In the truck, we have Miller, Mallory, Weaver, Reynolds and Marco and the prisoners are hiding in the back.
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As a Jeep goes through the gate, Barnes be crouched on the back floor of the Jeep, acts as puppet master for the dead Schroeder, making him give a high-hitler salute on the way out by grabbing his elbow and flapping his arm.
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They have escaped, but Dražek sounds the alarm.
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Now it's daylight and force ten is pushing the Jeep, still containing the dead major Schroeder down a hill.
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Barnes be orders everyone into the truck, but Weaver isn't budging. He has a machine gun and says that this truck isn't moving, now until someone tells them what's going on.
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Mallory asks him if his problem is he wants to be part of the team. Weaver says he isn't one to be part of any team.
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A group of Chetnex is riding toward them, but Weaver still doesn't care, so Mallory tells them what's what.
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They're going to help the partisans blow up a bridge. A bridge? What bridge? Not Weaver. He's not blowing up a bridge.
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Barnes be says that's why they came back for Miller, but now Weaver says that they came back for Miller and not for him.
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You didn't come back for me, did you? Barnes be confirmed? No, we didn't.
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We see the Chetnex are getting closer and Dražek is leading them. Weaver lowers his gun and smiles. That's the first straight answer you've given me, he says.
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Barnes be orders Weaver to get in the truck and show for them, but the truck won't start of course, so they do the next best thing.
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They assemble outside a rocky pass and take position. The Chetnex won't be able to get through without getting fired upon.
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However, Miller's not with them. One shot is fired, but then there's an explosion.
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Falling rocks hit the path, forcing the Chetnex back the way they came. Surprise, it was Miller and his magic case to the rescue.
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Weaver fixes the truck and they're off again.
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They return to the partisan camp and Miller is evaluating the bridge through binoculars as Barnes be in Mallory await his assessment.
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Miller says that equipment is to be dropped from Britain, but it won't be enough to do any damage to this bridge, which is well fortified into the rock.
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Barnes be argues that the top engineers had examined the situation and have assured him that this bridge will blow.
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Miller says that engineers are exceptional at building things, but he's an expert at blowing things up and he says this bridge isn't going to go down easily.
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Mallory has a think and then ask Miller what would happen if the central arch was suddenly hit by several million tons of water.
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Water, Miller and Barnes be asked, Mallory reminds them of the day they passed about two and a half miles away.
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And Miller says, now you're talking. The water will be working for them.
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Blowing that dam will be like pulling a bathtub plug. So the men go off on this new mission.
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Now it's night and we find ourselves at the pre-designated drop site near the partisan camp.
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Miller is there briefing Weaver over the plan as Barnes be in Mallory wait for the equipment drop.
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Mallory asks Leskovar if they've used this site for many drops and Leskovar replies that the Germans don't allow that and admits they have to move around a lot.
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Back with Miller and Weaver, they're bounding over their shared rake.
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Both sergeants, Maritzo walks past and they ask her to shelter with them to take a load off and enjoy the supply drop.
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She says sitting is the one thing she can't do right now and says she's going to bed.
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We are playing approaching as the partisans. There's several of them light torches to help guide it in making a makeshift runway.
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Maritzo is walking through the woods on her way back to the partisan headquarters when she hears someone speaking in German.
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Redewing the approaching plane Maritzo steps on a twig and the speaker looks up. It's Leskovar.
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Ah! Maritzo runs. At the drop site, the men with torches make easy targets for the passing plane and it shoots them all down.
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In the chaos, Leskovar shoots Maritzo in the back as she's running away to inform the others of what she has seen.
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Now everything is being lit up by the Germans. Buildings, people, fields, but our four guys are okay.
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Barnsby looks out at the car and says this was no accident.
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And then Leskovar returns carrying the dead body of Maritzo.
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He's weeping crocodile tears. Now we're in the cave with major petrivich. He's sitting down and he looks stunned.
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Leskovar is railing against the allies in their lack of security, a real masterclass enacting here.
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But petrivich doesn't want to hear any more lamentations about his dead daughter.
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He says the Germans will marshal their tanks and cross the bridge tomorrow and there's nothing they can do about it.
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However, it's not really going to be tomorrow as we'll find out.
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He informs Barnsby that the four of them have outstayed their usefulness. And petrivich orders Leskovar to have them escorted out of the camp.
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Miller offers to leave some nasty surprises for the approaching Germans, but petrivich says they've had enough surprises.
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It's now the next day. No Germans have crossed that bridge yet. Miller is complaining that if he had half of the Germans,
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landmines, explosives, etc.
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He makes Swiss cheese at that damn. When Leskovar delivers his two-man escort, Marco being one of them, Mallory asks for more men.
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They're going to raid that German forward supply dump for gear. Leskovar says that none of them speak German well enough to get in.
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But they're going to need him to help. Mallory thanks him for volunteering.
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So the group crosses the river by extending a lion from one end to the other and they go hand over hand across.
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Now it's night again. The plight trucks are moving out. We see that they're all passing over a strand of wire laying across the road.
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And then the wire goes taught. A luckless German officer riding with the upper half of his body poking up from the parapet of a tank gets beheaded by that wire.
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The vehicle comes to a halt and the next thing we see is force-tent-onning German uniforms. Except for weaver, he would have a difficult time infiltrating the German camp, so he doesn't have to worry about that.
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He gets to stay behind. Leskovar says that they'll return in 35 minutes, which I think is pretty optimistic.
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Now they've made their way into the camp. Leskovar is mingling with Germans and Mallory and Mallory have gone into the forward supply dump to find the explosives they'll need.
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They find them, but a German soldier starts chattering at them. Miller flips in the bird, which only makes the German angrier. Miller finishes piling boxes on a dolly before he and Mallory storm off, leaving the shouting German behind them.
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And Miller gives him such a look. Leskovar waits impatiently outside as a troop truck is loaded behind him.
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Once he sees Miller in Mallory, he directs them to the pickup point, but Barnesby and the truck aren't there yet. Miller doesn't want to stand around like ducks and thunder.
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Whatever that means. So Leskovar tells them they should hide in a railway car, them and the gear. Inside Miller starts going over the loot that he has.
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We see that Barnesby and Marco have common-deer to truck as a getaway vehicle, but as they approach the train, it starts to move. Weaver poaks his head off from the back of the truck.
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Where have they gotten off to? Yes. Barnesby and Marco are surprised to see him, and Marco steps down to have a look around.
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That train didn't move very far though. Now it's stopped, and Mallory looking out the window sees the truck. Leskovar offers to farm Barnesby and Marco where Mallory, Miller and the gear are.
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A soldier comes up to Barnesby's truck and sends it away. Though Barnesby has to pull up ahead and out of view.
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From the train car, Mallory is watching the proceedings and reporting them to Miller who was still busy preparing his equipment. Leskovar goes to the German soldier and tells him his true identity.
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He is a high-ranking German officer and he has two British officers in a train car and he just sent away a truck with an American colonel. Leskovar wants to capture them all together.
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Mallory reports that Leskovar seems to be making up a story to tell the soldier. As Miller continues to play with his explosives. Leskovar instructs the German soldier to assemble a squad and surround them.
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Barnesby moves the truck back into position. He opens up the train compartments and chastises Miller for not picking up his toys.
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They all work together to refill the trunk full of explosives. But as they leave, they see that German who assembled a backup squad. Leskovar is with them and offers to deal with him again, telling Mallory, Miller and the rest to wait there.
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Leskovar tells the sergeant that they are all his and to go ahead and bring his squad around. Then Leskovar goes back and loses a lock on the door of the train car.
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Before the Germans can return, the train starts up to Leskovar's alarm. Then we see Marco who had been lurking near the train.
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He's coming after the squad armed with the machine gun and he chases and takes out the entire squad. Or so he thought one of them isn't dead and sits up and shoots Marco in the back.
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Leskovar runs to the train car, unlocks it and joins the others. He does struggle with that lock though. He tells them that Marco must have given himself away.
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Weaver wonders where they're going. Miller guesses Berlin, but Leskovar sets Sarajevo, no stops. Barnesby offers his condolences on Marco.
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And Leskovar starts in on how he was such a good friend blah blah blah. Then Leskovar's web of lies starts to unravel. Barnesby asks why the Germans saluted him. He's wearing a corpals uniform. That's not how it works in the German Army.
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And Mallory notes that he didn't mention that this train rolls past the dam within a half mile of it.
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Leskovar tries to shrug this off just because the sergeant salutes me and I didn't mention a map and I had the same name as the guy you were sent here to kill because he was a traitor. You think I'm a traitor?
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Mallory doesn't think he knows. He just couldn't prove it until now. Mallory says, you're Nikolai. You're the man who blew us in Greece.
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And Leskovar smiles and nods and gets shot. Barnesby shoots him in the side. Leskovar spins around and manages to cry real tears for once. Mallory thanks Barnesby.
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And Barnesby says, I've done your job. Now help me do mine.
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It is now daylight and Barnesby Mallory, Miller and Weaver jump from the moving train as it passes through a tunnel.
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Year in all.
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By the time they make it to the dam, it is dark. Barnesby looks at his wash. It's nearly 4.30 a.m.
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The Germans are expected to cross the Brigitte 530 so that gives them 30 minutes to get in, set the explosives and 20 minutes to get out.
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Miller tells Barnesby that they need a diversion. So he sets off a few fireworks out of a flare gun.
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The patrolling officers on top of the dam see the display and u and a part one of the distraction worked.
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When next see Mallory and Barnesby climbing up the fortress like exterior of the dam, then Miller starts a real conflagration across the gorge.
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This attracts a lot of German attention. Troops go running off and the men remaining are shooting at or looking in the direction of Miller's display.
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Mallory and Barnesby easily get into the dam control center.
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Now we're back with Miller and Weaver. Miller hands Weaver some explosive gel and instructs him to lay it out on the road.
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Then Miller does the same and they take cover. A caravan of German trucks comes through and the explosives do what they were supposed to.
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Inside the dam, Barnesby and Mallory continue to move unimpeded through the dam's lower levels.
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Back with Miller and Weaver, Miller hands Weaver some wire and tells him to string it up. And Weaver obliges finding that the end of the wire looks like a cobra.
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Weaver chuckles and sets it upright into a fallen tree branch and hides as the checknicks ride by.
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Joshyx with him and he's the one who notices the snake and he dismounts his horse to investigate.
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He follows the wire and finds the machine gun that Weaver loves sitting against the tree.
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Drazyk hears a sound and looks up to see a familiar face. Standing there is Weaver, wielding a knife.
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Drazyk smiles and pulls on his own knife. Hello, Blackie, he says.
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The two fight. Drazyk stabs Weaver first. Surprise to see that he bleeds red blood.
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Weaver clocks Drazyk with a rock, but as Drazyk rises and starts to pull his gun, Weaver leaps over to where his knife is fallen.
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And flings it at Drazyk and hits the target. Then the center of Drazyk's abdomen and the big man finally goes down.
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Then Miller reappears now that everything between Weaver and Drazyk is settled.
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At the dam, Barnesby and Mallory are still making their way to the lower levels of the dam.
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Way down. Miller is helping the injured Weaver to safety.
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They're at a vantage point to see the dam when the explosives go off.
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Weaver is impatient, but Miller tells them to give them time. They obviously haven't been caught or they had afforded the alarm school off.
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And we also see that the Germans are really on the move this time. They're going to cross that bridge.
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So partisan soldiers are taking their position to defend their side of the bridge.
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Meanwhile, Mallory and Barnesby are rigging up the explosives.
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Outside, Weaver is anxious to see the dam blow, but Miller tells them to be patient.
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Barnesby and Mallory get to work setting the explosives.
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Mallory asks what time the Germans were expected to leave. It's 5.36 am now.
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Barnesby says they're out of time. And how much time should they give themselves before detonation? 20 seconds?
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Mallory says that sounds about right. They won't have this part to run.
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They shake hands and bars be as sorry he won't be able to see the bridge fall. Then the explosions go off.
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The two men are blown down. From his vantage point, Weaver is bitterly disappointed that the explosion didn't do anything.
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But Miller says these things take time.
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The partisan then open fire on the Germans on the bridge.
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In the dam, we see Barnesby and Mallory have both survived the explosion.
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Mallory curses Miller that this didn't work. So now that they apparently have aled in their mission, their primary objective is escape.
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Outside, Weaver is still yelling that it didn't work. Miller tells them that it can't expect a volcano with three tiny bags of explosives.
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Just give it time and it will work.
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Finally, some Germans come down to inspect the side of the explosion. Mallory and Barnesby hide.
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And then the dam will start to crack. Waters flowing in. Mallory and Barnesby push past the men, advising them to leave too.
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And an alarm goes off inside the dam.
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From their vantage point, Weaver and Miller watches the dam breaks and the floods flow forth.
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First, just a few holes, then it blows completely. Water rushes into the gorge.
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We get something of a montage of the damage this flood is doing. The Germans continue their march toward the bridge as to the flood waters.
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Weaver is celebrating with a less than willing Miller, dancing him around and kissing him on the cheek.
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The Germans start crossing the bridge as the waters start to hit it. A few German soldiers try to rush across, but they have to fall back when they are met with partisan gunfire.
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The plan worked. The force of water starts shaking the bridge and a band and tank falls into the newly reformed river and the bridge collapses and the partisan soldiers enjoy the show.
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Even Petrovich comes out of his cave to watch.
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Mallory and Barnesby rejoin the others. There's much rejoicing until Mallory reminds them that one,
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they're on the wrong side of the river. Two, they can't rejoin the partisans. Three, angry Germans are headed their way. A lot of them.
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So four, they have a very long walk home. And that's the end.
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Welcome back to the American International Podcast where we're talking about Force 10 from Navarone from 1978.
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Force 10 from Navarone got its title from the Alistair McLean book of the same name, but bears so little resemblance to the novel that McLean loosely adapted part of the screenplay into his 1982 book "Partisons."
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In a column written by Colin Dengard published in December of 1978, McLean seemed to be cautiously optimistic about the adaptation of the book hero.
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He's quoted as saying, "Once a movie company buys your book, you have lost all the vestige of control. I'm hopeful that this return to Navarone will be good too.
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Though the storyline bears little resemblance to what I wrote." Then he adds quote, "This couldn't help but be the best because with the exception of guns of Navarone, the rest were rubbish."
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They had been plans to produce the film shortly after the 1961 film "The Guns of Navarone" with Gregory Peck and David Niven reprising the roles as Mallory and Miller.
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Following the success of the original film, producer Carl Foreman asked McLean to write a hardcover sequel novel on which a follow-up film would be based.
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But the author was reluctant to write an entire novel and instead delivered a screen treatment.
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In April of 1967, Foreman announced that he would make a movie called "After Navarone" for Columbia, with Anthony Quinn, Peck and Niven returning, and J. Lee Thompson coming back to direct.
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Then in May 1967, it was announced that the film title had been changed to the "Hide Damn" and filming would take place in 1969.
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Meanwhile, McLean had decided that no film would be forthcoming.
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He developed the screen treatment into a book and published "Sports 10 From Navarone" in 1968. The novel became a bestseller.
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Throughout the 1970s, Foreman tried to get financial backing for the film.
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In December 1972, the plane told the Los Angeles Times that Foreman's plan was to use the original cast but commented that "look a bit old for the war now."
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In September 1976, the story in the LA Times reported that Foreman, Oliver Unger and the German Finance Company, Mando Films, had acquired the screen rights to the novel and screenplay,
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Force 10 from Navarone. Foreman wrote the treatment and served as executive producer, but Unger wound up producing the movie.
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In August 1977, the production company set up to make the movie "Navarone Productions", signed an agreement with AIP for the latter to distribute the film.
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AIP provided $2.1 million of the film's $8.3 million budget. AIP contributed further $97,000 to produce a US version of the film.
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Columbia Pictures also put in $2.9 million and bought the exclusive and perpetual distribution rights in all territories outside the United States and Canada.
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ABC Television paid $1 million for the broadcast television rights. Filming went over budget, looting to more than $10 million, though.
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The production company's completion guarantor had to step in and provide additional funds.
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In an article by a Desmond Ryan in the Philadelphia Inquirer about AIP financing big budget films like "Force 10" and "The Movie Media,"
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Samuel Arcoff is quoted as saying, "For years I've been berating the narcissistic producers who insisted that sheer size was enough."
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Put in this expensive star, put in this expensive writer and churned with this expensive director.
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I call that stuffing bananas with bananas, and only too frequently do you get a banana split instead of a picture.
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Unger and director Guy Hamilton headed a five-member team to scout locations for Force 10 in Pakistan, according to a January 1977 variety article.
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He signed an agreement to shoot in Western Pakistan in winter 1977, and Pakistan State-run film agency was prepared to provide partial financing for a co-production, or just a location shooting deal, but the final turns proved too costly for the Pakistani government.
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Rather than revise the script to account for the location change and also to receive less money, Unger and director's company Guy Hamilton Productions chose to shoot in Europe according to an article in daily variety in early January 1978.
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The cast had been set by October of 1977. This is a side note.
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Caroline Monroe said she was offered the part of Maritza, but she turned it down due to the nudity.
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Filming took five months. The indoor scenes were shot at Sheperton Studios outside London, and sets included a full-scale mock-up of a Lancaster bomber.
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The exteriors were shot around the Durgepicab Parabridge, Montenegro, and the dam on Jablanico Lake in Jablanica, Bosnia, and Herzegovina.
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Scale models of the dam, valley, and bridge were built at the Mediterranean Film Studios in Malta.
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Oliver Unger told the Chicago Tribune that Yugoslavia's president Tito referenced in the film, authorized his government's assistance with the film.
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He provided 2000 soldiers as extras, as well as uniforms and equipment, and several Yugoslavia and Army T-34 tanks.
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Both Tito and McLean visited the set during filming.
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Unger said that to get the dramatic views of the bridge overlooking the Terra River, they had to use trucks, donkeys, and yoked oxen and wooden sleds to get the equipment up steep mountain roads to the remote location.
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The scenes of the train yard were shot at the Royal Navy Dockyard in Plymouth, England, and on Jersey in the Channel Islands.
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Logosine on the train carriage, TSTO, and in parentheses, stood for Principal Supply and Transport Officer, Navy.
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In a syndicated column published in December of 1978, Carl Weathers said he and Robert Shaw became very special friends on set.
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He helped me a great deal, at times my link to sanity and some of those primitive locations where we spent weeks at a time.
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The food was so terrible, we found ourselves knocking off a bottle of vodka between takes, and he really regaled me with some fantastic stories.
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Shaw was not happy on set though, and another syndicated article by Colin Dangard, Shaw admitted to not wanting to act anymore. He said, "I've been seriously thinking that this might be my last film."
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He then claimed that he was still working because his expenses, which included caring for his 10 children, were $10,000 a week.
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He continued, "I no longer have anything real to say. I have a pall that some delines. I never write them myself. I'm always running with guns."
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As Robert Mitchen would say, "This is another running, falling down, getting up again, picture."
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Shaw died in August of 1978, before Force 10 was released.
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Barbara Bach told Bob Lardine in the New York Daily News in December of 1978, "I know I have a reputation as a glamour girl, but in the upcoming movie, Force 10, I wear baggy clothes, I have metal over my face, and shun cosmetics. Nobody is going to think me gorgeous in the picture, and that will make me deliriously happy."
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I'm hoping that some people will walk away from the movie saying, "You know, she can really act."
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Richard Kiel told The Los Angeles Times in January of 1978 that he became a popular figure among the Yugoslavian crew and the curious onlookers on location.
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They joked about his height, and although he learned some of the language, the crew started mimicking his Yugoslavian accent during filming.
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He said in the January 1978 column by Vernon Scott, that, "I've got a top role in Force 10 from Neverown. Instead of the usual villain, I play a two-dimensional man who eventually does be the same."
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I'm equally billed for the first time with people like Robert Shaw, Harrison Ford, and Franco Nero.
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And that's important to me as an actor to establish my name in the public eye, end quote.
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And he also admitted that some people got him confused with Stetuous actor Ted Cassidy.
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The script for Force 10 was being revised as filling went on, according to an interview with Everton Fox in the LA Times.
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The action had been laid down, but the characters were still stick figures.
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We had to dress them up and make the lines fit them as we went along. Fox said there were five people tasked with doctorate in the script.
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We don't know all five, but we know, thanks again to the LA Times, that director Hamilton brought in George McThouald Fraser to help, as the two of them had gotten along a working on Superman the movie.
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Robin Chapman said in a 2002 letter to the London Times that Fraser only made minor dialogue changes.
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While most references to Force 10 from Navarone acknowledge it as a sequel to the guns of Navarone news items in the August 10th, 1978 Hollywood reporter, and the September 15th edition of Variety,
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characterised Force 10 from Navarone as a continuation that used some of the same characters and locations.
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Although several sources, including an advertisement in the August 21st 1978 issue of Box Office Magazine named Samuel Z. Archoff as a producer,
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and a news item in December 1976 issue of Variety noted that Jeffrey Reeve joined the production as a producer,
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neither man receives on screen credit. Force 10 from Navarone was released on December 7th, 1978.
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The runtime of the release version was 118 minutes, and the restored version of the film is 126 minutes long.
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Before its official release though, the film was screened for then-president Jimmy Carter at Camp David, on Thanksgiving of 1978.
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Toi adds in newspapers in December of 1978 featured a Navarone playset based on the guns of Navarone movie setting, but undoubtedly time to capitalize on the release of Force 10 from Navarone, so close to Christmas that year.
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The set we tailed at around $15.
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That's 1978 dollars.
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Foster publishing released a novelisation of Force 10 from Navarone with cover art taken from the movie poster, before the movie was released.
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The Marines used the movie as a way to drive donations for their Toys for Tots program.
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Several papers reported that a toy donation could be given in lieu of a ticket purchase at participating theaters.
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Some of AIP's promotional suggestions for theater owners, in addition to toy drives, were for theater owners to stage a, "commando style toy raid at a local or chain toy store, giving kids a short time frame in which to scour the store looking for specially marked items."
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Perhaps even the aforementioned Navarone playset.
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Kids who completed the mission could be awarded the toys they found and a family admission to Force 10 from Navarone.
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Another idea AIP offered was called Boom Boom Balley, where a local military installation or the police or fire department would hold demonstration of demolitions or explosives.
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Theater owners would then use clips from Force 10 or other movie promotional items to drive ticket sales.
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Taglines for Force 10 from Navarone include the odds against them or 10,000 to 1, but what the hell?
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Explosive high adventure, a mission worth daring than silencing the guns.
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Not since the guns of Navarone has there been a Force like Force 10 from Navarone.
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Force 10 from Navarone earned $3.2 million at the box office, reportedly a quarter of what the guns of Navarone made.
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And I'm not sure if the amount was adjusted for inflation.
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In January of 1982, Rye de reported that film waste pictures incorporated suit "Ungers the State" for the recovery of a $25,000 loan he borrowed against the proceeds of Force 10 from Navarone.
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The lawsuit stated with interest a total of $29,260 was owed. The outcome of the legal action is unknown.
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In another lawsuit, the Estates of Karl Forman, Cindy Cohen and Oliver Unger and surviving producer Peter Gettinger sued Sony Pictures owner of Columbia Pictures for unpaid sums from distribution rights.
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Following a May 2008 trial in New York Supreme Court, a judgment awarded the producers more than 30 years of funds was held by Columbia Pictures.
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Sony appealed but an appellate court upheld the initial verdict in September of 2009.
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Harrison Ford has said of Force 10. It wasn't that bad film. They were honest people involved and it was an honest effort. But it wasn't the right thing for me to do.
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Tom Buckley in the New York Times wrote, "The plot of Force 10 is banally improbable. Die Hamilton's direction is sluggish. And the camera work by Chris Chalice makes the least of the picturesque locations in the mountains of Montenegro.
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There is more over an unmistakable era of haste and cost cutting that suggests most of the production budget went to pay the high-price stars.
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Force 10 and passing considerably romanticizes the activity of the partisans, the irregular troops commanded by Marshall Tito, who has been the freely chosen president of Yugoslavia for 32 years now as of 1978.
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It turns to Chetniks who are linked to the Yugoslavia and Royalist government in exile in London into eager Nazi collaborators. And historically that might not have been true, but we're not sure."
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Roger Ebert wrote in the Chicago Sun Times, "Force 10 honors all the obligatory cliches. And then there's a nice twist involving the explosion inside the dam. And then we get the special effects and then it's over."
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It doesn't leave much of an impression. A director like Guy Hamilton, a graduate of four of the Bond Pictures, can turn out action movies like this in his sleep, this time of last, that's apparently what he did.
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Gary Arnold in The Washington Post wrote, "If anyone made a respectable effort to invest the story with authenticity or attention, it is not apparent on the screen.
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Even the big spectacle, the demolition of the dam, is going to look unimpressive to moviegoers who've already been to Superman and seen the identical illusion depicted with far more skill.
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"Force 10 is a mission that probably should have been aborted, instead it's been allowed to abort on the screen."
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David Hansen in Newsweek also jumped on the negative review train. "Force 10 is funny, but not quite funny enough. Too often one laughs at its implausibilities without knowing if the filmmakers are in on the joke.
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"The production script by Robin Chapman has just enough tongue in cheek so that the cliches can be taken as irony, but Guy Hamilton's direction tips the balance toward cliché.
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An old-handed engineering actor's in-an-ount of impossible pickles, Hamilton keeps the action going, but the surprises at our so mechanically executed that they rarely amaze."
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Anthony Rocha in The Second On News wrote that, "Because of a banal storyline in the sluggish camera work, the elements of an entertaining ward venture are not blended well.
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And he continued, "The choppy quality of the film leaves an air of waste and cost-cutting, which was surely transferred to meeting the cost of the cast."
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In contrast, the variety review was uniformly positive. Director Guy Hamilton manages over the course of almost two hours to keep his audience on edge.
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For a finale, he has a double whammy destruction of a giant Yugoslav dam, which sets loose forces of nature that crumble a seemingly indestructible bridge.
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Harrison Ford does a creditable job as the American Colonel, Fox's excellent as the British demolishes expert, Carl Weathers gives a powerful performance as the unwanted black GI who proves himself in more ways than one.
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By Robock, Lone Femme does find in a tragic patriotic role as a partisan.
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Rancor Nero as a Nazi double agent who fools the partisans is slickly nefarious.
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Tom Wendering, what's your review, Jeff? How do you feel about Force X from Navarone?
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The one thing that I really noticed about this movie is that it might be sent during wartime, but what this is is a Caper movie.
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Oh, absolutely.
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And I love a good Caper movie. I love it when a plan comes together.
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Even when it falls apart bit by bit, it still comes back together.
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It's more akin to Ocean's Eleven than it is to your average war movie. And Ocean's Eleven is a lot of fun.
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And I thought this movie was kind of fun too. I honestly don't get all the negative reviews of it.
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It seems like they're really piling on things that I didn't really think were problems.
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The problem is in this movie to me, where some holes in the script that didn't make sense.
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At one point Captain Luskovar says the Germans are coming tomorrow morning and then two or three nights pass before they actually come.
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And that would be understandable except at one point, Barnesby says, well, the Germans are always punctual.
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So there are a couple days late and that's just not like them.
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So there are a few plot holes. I wonder why the demolitions expert is an inside the dam sending up the demolitions.
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I kind of wonder what he was doing at all at the end of the movie.
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They had to kill Droszek somehow, but he didn't really do anything to make that happen.
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But apart from those plot holes, I thought this was an enjoyable movie.
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Yeah, I don't feel that Droszek really had to die in this film for it to still be successful.
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They brought him back. And I'm not even sure of the geography of this place because all this action seems to happen within a five mile radius.
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They have the Germans, where on the other side of the bridge, they had the partisans, the Chetniks, not all that far away.
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No, it's walking distance. Even if it's a long walk, I think we're just not supposed to worry about a lot of these nitpicks.
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It's far enough though they have to take a train through the night to get back to the dam.
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Well, they had to go to the supply dump, which was a totally different location than we'd ever been to before.
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Okay, we don't know how far that was.
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Right. It took them from dawn, apparently, to late at night to get there from what I could tell.
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It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you think about it a little bit because this train went...
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We don't know how long the train took to get them where they were going either.
505
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,000
It was night when they left and it was daylight when they jumped.
506
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,000
Which was supposedly half a mile from the dam if they were calculated correctly.
507
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,000
But they were on the German side of the gorge still.
508
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:48,000
And the next scene is night. So we don't know how long that walk took to get to the dam.
509
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,000
It's actually really early the next morning. It's just still dark.
510
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,000
Right. The timing doesn't make sense.
511
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:59,000
If you were putting this into a spreadsheet, you'd be like, "Well, what happened in this 24 hours?"
512
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,000
You said this was happening the next day and it doesn't happen for three days.
513
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,000
Somebody could have combed through the script and tightened that up a lot.
514
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,000
But to get back to my point, Drasic could have just been ignored and allowed to live.
515
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,000
It wouldn't affect the story at all. I guess it's just that as a villain,
516
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,000
he used to have his comeuppance and so they had to be part of the script.
517
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,000
I guess he didn't really directly kill anybody that started the movie.
518
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,000
But he did rough up Maritza.
519
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,000
And salted Weathers.
520
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,000
That's true. And he stabbed him.
521
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,000
I mean, he didn't have to stop and get out and look for the snake.
522
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,000
He only stabbed him because he was brought back to be killed.
523
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,000
I mean, if they had just left him in the tent of camp and never thought about it again,
524
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,000
because how many soldiers or whatever are going to be left behind and never thought of again,
525
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,000
because you're just going on with your mission.
526
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Well, it's hard to forget Richard Keele. I'm sure you can agree with that.
527
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,000
Yeah, it was really hard to see him get kicked in the shins.
528
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,000
Because I saw him at a few conventions toward the end of his life
529
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,000
and his legs were not strong. He couldn't support his own weight.
530
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,000
If you see him in Billy Madison, he makes an appearance.
531
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,000
And he's either leaning on somebody or a leaning on offense
532
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,000
or just shot from the shoulders up because he couldn't stand.
533
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,000
He couldn't support his own weight. He was riding around on a scooter.
534
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,000
You can't imagine that's a stunt double that went down in his place.
535
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,000
I'm sure it's fortified or something or fake or a fake leg.
536
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,000
Yeah, or he'd fake the kick. It wasn't a real kick.
537
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,000
But regardless, it's still hard to watch.
538
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,000
There were a lot of conveniences in this story.
539
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,000
The fact that there were a couple of techniques who were bandaged,
540
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,000
which is a plot device because they were actually agents.
541
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,000
But one would think you might be a little more suspicious that these people just showed up with bandages
542
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,000
and said, "Hey, we're on your side."
543
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Right. After they've been gone for a long time
544
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,000
and they disappeared escorting prisoners who didn't come back.
545
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,000
Somebody should have looked into that.
546
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,000
Also, we say they were bandaged, but it was really just like a bag over their heads.
547
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000
Well, they referred to it as bandaged.
548
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,000
Right.
549
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,000
But I guess the advantage is you can swap those guys out and give them a break.
550
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,000
And then nobody would even question it because the check-necks start with that break.
551
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:06,000
Well, that made the check-necks look really stupid for allowing themselves to be fooled so easily by their own plan.
552
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:11,000
But it definitely worked for the story because they took advantage of that when they infiltrated the Chetna Camp 2.
553
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,000
Rescue Miller.
554
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,000
Rescue the prisoners.
555
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,000
Etc.
556
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,000
Yeah.
557
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Yeah. I think we can nitpick this movie, the pieces.
558
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,000
So let's talk about the things that we did like.
559
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,000
I'm not done nitpicking.
560
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,000
Oh, okay.
561
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:28,000
I watched this and I wondered why the prisoners that were left in the Chetna Camp Miller Reynolds and Weaver.
562
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,000
Why they hadn't been killed.
563
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,000
And they explained because, well, they hadn't been interrogated yet.
564
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:40,000
But if that was the reason that they were still alive, why did they line up all five of them in front of the firing squad in the first place?
565
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,000
Was it just to scare them?
566
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,000
Possibly.
567
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:50,000
I think that was probably a common Nazi tactic of always making people on edge, never letting them know where they stand.
568
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,000
But they never explain anything.
569
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,000
So you just have to make up your own explanations as you watch this.
570
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:59,000
And it did seem kind of callous that Mallory didn't care what happened to Miller if they were separated.
571
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,000
I don't think it was that he didn't care.
572
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,000
I just felt that he.
573
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,000
You knew he couldn't do anything about it.
574
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,000
You couldn't do anything about it.
575
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,000
Yeah.
576
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,000
I mean, the two of them can't march back into the camp on their own and rescue them.
577
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,000
Right.
578
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
But he could have said we were going to go back whatever it takes.
579
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,000
We'll get if we can't edit it.
580
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:20,000
Well, if you're on a mission like this, you're going to have a collateral damage.
581
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,000
And obviously we got a lot of that in the beginning of the movie.
582
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,000
That was a really badly planned mission.
583
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,000
They're in this cardboard airplane.
584
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,000
And as soon as they encounter one German plane, 98% of the crew is dead.
585
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,000
Yeah, I don't know how many members win force 10, but it's just.
586
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:41,000
There's at least a dozen men and adults by the time they hit the ground and the two tag alongs.
587
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,000
Right.
588
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,000
And weaver who wasn't supposed to be there.
589
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,000
So I think when Colonel Barnesby gets back, he's going to have some spleen in to do.
590
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,000
I'm not sure they're going to make it back.
591
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,000
Well, that's true.
592
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,000
We don't find out.
593
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,000
And there is no third movie.
594
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000
Is there anything you really liked about this movie?
595
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,000
I like the characters in this movie.
596
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:04,000
There's something about a British accent and just remaining calm in all adversity that is so cool.
597
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,000
James Bond does that.
598
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,000
Yeah.
599
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,000
And Miller definitely presented that.
600
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:15,000
And I imagine I haven't seen the guns are never wrong, but I could see David Niven portraying the character in a very similar way.
601
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,000
Oh, he's so elegant.
602
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,000
Yeah, I really love the character of Miller.
603
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,000
I think he's my favorite in the whole movie, but I like Mallory too.
604
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,000
And I like the two of them together.
605
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,000
In fact, I don't think we even really needed anybody else in the movie besides them.
606
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,000
Well, I take that back.
607
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,000
I like Carl Weathers too.
608
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,000
He was a lot of fun.
609
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,000
But Harrison Ford, I think he could have put anybody in that role.
610
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,000
Yeah. And should we be interviews within the probably felt the same way?
611
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,000
Right.
612
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,000
It's funny because that was right after Star Wars came out that he started working on this movie.
613
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:47,000
His star was really rising at this point, although he couldn't have known that probably when he signed on for the movie.
614
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,000
So it was a big deal to have him here.
615
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:55,000
And he was probably a big reason why the movie made any money, even though it was essentially a flop.
616
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,000
I don't know if he mentioned it, but the version we watched was 125 minute version of the film.
617
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,000
But apparently when originally released, it was 118 minutes.
618
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Yeah, we didn't mention that actually, but we didn't say which one we watched.
619
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,000
And I don't know what I would have cut from this.
620
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,000
I don't know about that. I think there were a lot of scenes that seemed kind of repetitive.
621
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,000
They could have tightened it up a little bit.
622
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,000
Like you said, the scene with DRAZIC getting killed wasn't really necessary.
623
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,000
That could have been cut or shortened or done at a different time.
624
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,000
Okay, I'll give you that one.
625
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,000
That one could have been cut.
626
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:31,000
And it just wouldn't have given whether it was the satisfaction of killing the guy who insulted him earlier.
627
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,000
That's true.
628
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,000
But it didn't need to be there.
629
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,000
And maybe a lot of the setup could have been tightened up a bit.
630
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,000
Although we did have to reintroduce the characters.
631
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:44,000
But there was like at least three minutes of guns of Navarone footage that we saw.
632
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,000
And a lot of it didn't make sense because they didn't use the characters that David Niven portrayed.
633
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,000
Well, because they looked drastically different in this movie.
634
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,000
Obviously, they couldn't use them.
635
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,000
Yeah, the footage that they use is all pretty generic.
636
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:01,000
It's explosions and officers giving orders and holding their hands or their ears as things explode.
637
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,000
And then the whole island goes up.
638
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,000
So they could have just put like a one paragraph of text on screen and skipped all that.
639
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:14,000
We did see though at the end of that, they put in a rubber shot and Edward Fox, getting picked up after the missions over.
640
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:22,000
So that establishes them as Miller and Mallory, whereas you might not have known that had you seen guns of Navarone that they're the same characters.
641
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,000
They must have felt they needed to bridge that somehow.
642
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,000
I think that was a successful way of doing it.
643
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:32,000
I just don't know that the footage from guns of Navarone really explained anything because it was all very generic.
644
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,000
Well, obviously a lot of things have to go wrong when you have a plan.
645
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,000
They're expecting supplies, but the supply drop is compromised.
646
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,000
They want to blow up the bridge, but the bridge is indestructible.
647
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000
So they always have to keep thinking on their feet.
648
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,000
What are they going to do next now that this terrible thing has happened?
649
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,000
So I guess that part is important.
650
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,000
I just think they could have just tightened it up a little bit.
651
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Yeah, and with the locations being what they were and I'm talking the actual locations within the film.
652
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,000
Not where they shot.
653
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:03,000
But the Chetnikamp being a day's walk from the partisan camp.
654
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:08,000
Part of Force X mission was to deliver Mallory and Miller to the partisan camp.
655
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,000
And they thought they got a shortcut when the fake partisans came to meet them.
656
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,000
But they were Chetniks not stinking Persons.
657
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:20,000
And by the time it's all plays out, Force X is really down to one original member of his team.
658
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,000
So the fact that their mission was successful is kind of a miracle.
659
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,000
Well, it is.
660
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,000
And that's part of the fun of it, I guess.
661
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,000
What about the special effects?
662
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:35,000
One of those reviews said that it was unimpressive compared to the damn breaking in Superman the movie.
663
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,000
Okay, well, full disclosure.
664
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,000
The last time I saw Superman the movie is probably in the 1980s.
665
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,000
And I saw this just yesterday.
666
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:47,000
So I can't tell you whether Superman is that much better.
667
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,000
Do you remember?
668
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:53,000
Well, I don't know that I'm not still looking at Superman through the eyes of a seven-year-old.
669
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000
It seems really impressive.
670
00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:01,000
I thought this was impressive too, but this is more, I don't know how to describe it, but more majestic or magical.
671
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:08,000
It looks like a Disney flood kind of because it's the water's flowing down and it's doing what it's supposed to do.
672
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:13,000
It's going up and down the sides of the gorge and yeah, it looks beautiful, but it doesn't look damaging.
673
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,000
Yeah, I thought the miniature work is really good.
674
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,000
We heard in one of the film commentaries that it was filmed outside.
675
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:24,000
So that sunlight beating down as opposed to studio lighting really made it look more realistic.
676
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,000
But you're right.
677
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:36,000
We were both watching, I mean, I said it first, I don't see how that much water, which wasn't more than just like a pretty heavy rainfall would have given them, could have destroyed that bridge.
678
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:44,000
They said it was reinforced to 20 feet below ground level with concrete pillars and just one rushing gush of water.
679
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,000
I'm not sure that would have destroyed it.
680
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,000
They don't dam up the water so it doesn't destroy the bridge.
681
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,000
They dam up the water for the hydroelectric power.
682
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,000
So it just didn't really make sense that that would have done that much damage.
683
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:05,000
However, we have to say, well, that was in this script and go again, it worked because we'd still be watching the movie or just everybody we did.
684
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,000
And the Germans would have won World War II and God knows we don't want Nazis in charge.
685
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:14,000
But I probably wouldn't have even considered those were miniatures if I was just looking at that.
686
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,000
No, no, it's really well done.
687
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:22,000
We shoot a miniature like that and water you shoot it obviously close up, but in ultra high speed.
688
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,000
So it plays back the water looks like it's slower and these look like waves.
689
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,000
They didn't look like ripples.
690
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,000
No, no, it didn't look like bathtub water.
691
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,000
It looked like an actual raging river.
692
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,000
It just didn't seem like enough water that would have destroyed this bridge.
693
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,000
And you'd have to see the movie to know what we're talking about.
694
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,000
This bridge is huge.
695
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,000
It's like 20 stories off the ground.
696
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:47,000
It came up to, I want to say ankle height on the bottom of the bridge.
697
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,000
It wasn't like a bridge level.
698
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,000
It hit the pillars hard, but hard enough.
699
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,000
It's hard to say.
700
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,000
I don't think so.
701
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,000
It didn't look like it would because it looked like it was barely coming over the rocks that it's embedded in.
702
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,000
Right.
703
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,000
I guess that ankle height.
704
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,000
An ankle high river wouldn't knock me over.
705
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,000
Well, it might not that steady on my feet.
706
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,000
All right.
707
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,000
We've said a lot about this movie.
708
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,000
Other people have said a lot about this movie.
709
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,000
I think it's time we give it our rating.
710
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,000
We've got a scale, a awesome eye intermediate, e-pathetic.
711
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,000
How do you rate 410 from never own Jeff?
712
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,000
Well, as I said, I love a good Caper movie.
713
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,000
And this was a Caper movie.
714
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,000
There always might be a loss of some characters trying to pull off a mission like this.
715
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:30,000
But the characters that we lost, we never really had a chance to get attached to.
716
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,000
Right.
717
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,000
Reynolds.
718
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,000
Yeah, Reynolds and even Marco who never spoke.
719
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,000
Yeah, he never spoke.
720
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,000
He just had a kind of tag along once they reached the partisans.
721
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:43,000
But the other guys who were in 410, who never even made it off the plane, we don't know anything about them.
722
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,000
We don't even know their names.
723
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,000
They were rude to Weaver.
724
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,000
We know that much.
725
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,000
So that might have made this a stronger film.
726
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:56,000
Not necessarily a better film, but a stronger film if someone that we cared about in this movie lost their lives.
727
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,000
But the characters that were meant to care about all survive.
728
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:03,000
Well, there is a point where we think Mallory and Barnsby are dead.
729
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,000
They think they're dead.
730
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,000
But blowing up this damn, they have sacrificed their lives.
731
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,000
But there is a moment.
732
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:13,000
The only death that we might mourn ourselves is probably in Riska.
733
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,000
That's true.
734
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,000
She was a good guy.
735
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,000
But we're not that attached to her.
736
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,000
No, she did kiss a Nazi.
737
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,000
But it was all part of the job.
738
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,000
But despite all the better views, I thought this was a really good movie.
739
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,000
I enjoyed watching it every time I had to go over it.
740
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,000
And I'm giving this one a full on A.
741
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,000
What do you think, Cheryl?
742
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:34,000
Well, I have to first say, I never in my life have chosen to watch a war movie.
743
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,000
I just don't enjoy them very much.
744
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:42,000
But as you very rightly pointed out, this is a Capermovie disguised as a war movie.
745
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,000
And as such, it had a different element.
746
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,000
We're not just on the battlefield shooting back and forth at each other.
747
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,000
No, those battles are all small.
748
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,000
They're just fights.
749
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,000
They're not even --
750
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,000
Scirmishes.
751
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,000
Not even that, because they're usually one-on-one or five-on-five or something.
752
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,000
It's not -- or five-on-ten.
753
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,000
It's a small battle.
754
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,000
It's jail breaks and escapes and stuff like that.
755
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,000
Or just one-on-one like in Weaver and Tragic.
756
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,000
It's not -- okay, we'll set up our defense.
757
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:12,000
You set up your defense and we're going to go against each other and see who comes on in this life.
758
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,000
We write it down.
759
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,000
No, nothing like that.
760
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:19,000
So that added an element of, dare I say, fun to the movie?
761
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:23,000
We're sitting there seeing all the obstacles they're facing.
762
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,000
I wonder how they're going to work it out and they do.
763
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,000
And then it's successful and everybody's happy at the end.
764
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,000
It's not a perfect ending because there's still a lot of trouble where they are.
765
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,000
They're alone.
766
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,000
There's little chance they'll make it back.
767
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:41,000
But it's still a happy ending because, well, the Germans didn't get to cross the river.
768
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,000
For the 70s, this is a pretty happy ending.
769
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,000
Right, exactly.
770
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,000
And I really enjoyed it.
771
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,000
And I was surprised.
772
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,000
I was not planning to enjoy this movie.
773
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,000
And I don't know.
774
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,000
Like when I do plan to enjoy a movie and I don't, I feel bad.
775
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,000
When I don't plan to enjoy a movie and I do, I'm really happy.
776
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,000
And I give it an A2.
777
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,000
Wow.
778
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,000
Were you surprised?
779
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,000
I don't know.
780
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,000
I was probably an I the first time through.
781
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,000
I was wondering where I was.
782
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,000
I wasn't sure.
783
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,000
But the more I thought about it, the more I enjoyed it.
784
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,000
And it drove it up in my eyes.
785
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,000
No, I agree.
786
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,000
And always when we watched the movie the first time, we're just watching it.
787
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:21,000
And then the next time we watch it, we're taking notes and we're picking apart the plot.
788
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:25,000
And we're discussing it with our, you know, back and forth seen by scene.
789
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,000
Instead of just enjoying it.
790
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:33,000
So that can either make you really hate the movie because you're bogged down in all these idiotic details.
791
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,000
Or it can make you really like it.
792
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,000
In this case, it made both of us like it more than we did before.
793
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,000
It just had something that made it very watchable.
794
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,000
I would recommend this to anybody, even people who don't like horror movies.
795
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:50,000
And just as a reminder, we have a website, aippod.com, where you can listen to the podcast.
796
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,000
You can find things that we can't show you in an audio medium.
797
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:58,000
We have posters and lobby cards, trailers available for you to watch.
798
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,000
Of all the movies we've talked about.
799
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,000
And hopefully soon we'll have something that we haven't even talked about yet.
800
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,000
And there's a way to contact us if you want to recommend a movie.
801
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,000
If you want to compliment us, complain about something.
802
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,000
Or just comment on anything that we've said.
803
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,000
Come to aipud.com.
804
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,000
We've completed our mission of talking about Force 10 from Navarone.
805
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,000
For the American International Podcast, I'm Cheryl Lightfoot.
806
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,000
And I'm Jeff Markin.
807
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,000
And we'll meet you at the drive-in.
808
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:33,000
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809
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:39,000
The American International Podcast is produced and edited by Jeff Markin.
810
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,000
A man whose mind is distorted by hatred.
811
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,000
And Cheryl Lightfoot.
812
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,000
A girl hungry for too many things.
813
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